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April 30, 2024 36 mins
New slew of polls show Trump leading in all seven swing states. Inflation continues out of control. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton speaks to Clay and Buck from the Trump trial in NYC, and regarding the college protests, and his lawsuit against the Biden administration over Title IX. Sticklers for pronunciation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, hour number two.
By the way, we're going to talk with Ken Paxton,
Attorney General of Texas, at the bottom of this hour,
and then in the third hour Amber.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Smith Buck she's got a good book that is out
right to break down on wokeness. Ambers an old friend.
She was a Kiowa combat pilot in Afghanistan, worked under
the Trump Department of Defense as an official, and wrote
a book called Danger Close. Now she's got a new
book out about wokeness in the military. She says, a

(00:33):
badass lady. You haven't met Ambers. She's cool.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I don't think so. I don't think I have. So
we will talk with them as well today. Okay, another
poll out this morning, Battleground Pole. It says a lot
of what many.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of these polls are saying.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And so let me read the latest numbers to all
of you as a prelude to this discussion. Trump was
held in contempt of court today one thousand dollars per
contempt of court violation. That adds up to a total
of nine thousand dollars. I'll get to merchand reacting the

(01:13):
judge in this case to that here in a moment.
But these numbers that came out early this morning, I'm
gonna hit them all for you here. Arizona Trump is
up four, Georgia Trump is up three. These are the
seven battleground states. This is according to Emerson and the Hill.
Wisconsin Trump up to, Pennsylvania, Trump up to, North Carolina

(01:38):
Trump up five, Nevada Trump up one, Michigan Trump up one. Overall,
when you add in a lot of third party candidates,
Trump's lead either stays the same or grows a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
That is all seven swing states were effectively six months
until the election. As we sit here talking to all
of you right now, it appears that the idea of
lawfare is going to unless something unexpected occurs. There's only
going to be one case that actually goes to a

(02:12):
jury before you are all able to go vote on
November fifth, and that one is New York City. They
have odds gambling odds up on a site called poly Market,
which I love checking. They basically allow you to wager
on anything buck to give you an idea. According to
their website, they've taken one hundred and seventeen million dollars

(02:37):
so far in bets on who is going to be
the presidential election winner, and right now, forty four percent
say Trump, forty four percent say Biden. At poly market
dead even you can bet on whether you think that
Trump will be convicted or not. According to this gambling market,

(02:58):
there is an eighty percent chance that he will be
found guilty of at least one felony in New York.
That feels roughly accurate to me that there's about a
twenty percent chance that there will either be a not
guilty verdict or not a guilty verdict that is a mistrial,
that is a hung jury something in that neighborhood. But
I think as you look at all these numbers and

(03:20):
now that we're effectively to May, I said for a
while Buck that to me, I want to know where
this race is Memorial Day, because that's kind of the
start of summer. I think a lot of people will
tune out. You guys know what I'm talking about. It's
June and July, a lot of vacations into early August.
I know that the Republican National Convention will be happening then,

(03:43):
and so will the DNC. But I think your average person,
not your diehard political junkie, like many of you, are
who are listening. They tune out, They got kids, they
got grandkids, Summer break, you're on vacation, you're traveling. If Biden,
these numbers are still where they are at Memorial Day,
and so far nothing has really changed for months. I

(04:07):
think there's going to be a full on panic that
starts to set in in the Democrat Party because remember,
they are spending a lot of money in the Swing
States trying to elevate Trump. Trump's not spending very much.
They got their trial that's underway right now. It seems
to if anything be breaking in Trump's favor, how much

(04:27):
panic do you think there is as we sit here
on the eve of May and Trump is I think
according to every poll they could be wrong. It's always
worth saying, but basically, according to every poll, Trump's in
the lead.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, I think we would have expected to be having
a conversation right now about how the polls are probably
wrong in that they're so much in favor of Joe
Biden a year ago if you had to place bets,
because in the past, as we know, there has been
a very clear tendency to underestimate polling Donald Trump's popularity

(05:02):
and his chances politically twenty sixteen being the best example
of this. But now he's way out ahead in every
single swing state, and I think at some point the
volume of data that all is pushing in the same
direction becomes pretty irrefutable. It's not a poll's up five
and a poll's down to and a margin vera poll

(05:23):
here and there. There would have to be a systemic
issue in American political polling across the board, which I
think we believed existed when it came to Trump at
one point, or at least they always it was always
margin vera, but favoring Hillary. Right, it always favored Hillary,
but it was margin nevera. I think this time around
we have to see this for what it is. Donald

(05:43):
Trump is out ahead of Joe Biden. That's not surprising
when you look at what's going on, and I think
that it's not like a sexy news story. It's not
all the clicks, the persistent inflation issue. It sounds nerdy.
This is a big problem. This hurts, and and if
that people don't necessarily all hone in on the mechanism

(06:06):
of this. I mean the fact that rates are staying
as high as they are. But just think about for
home buying purposes. Yeah, a lot of people they they
can't make that next home purchase. They can't afford the
payments on a home that they would have been able
to even a couple of years ago. And the longer
this persists, I think, the more the frustration builds up.

(06:27):
Also with hot with high prices. You know, these these
are systemic financial economic issues that everyone's aware of, even
if they don't understand necessarily all of the the you know,
microeconomic mechanisms that are putting the stuff in place. It's
the long way of saying the economy is not what

(06:47):
it should be. Everyone sort of knows that, whether they're
saying it out loud or not, and that is reflected
in the polling data right now. I mean, we should
have been out of the pandemic. Play like a rocket ship.
It should have been. I was concerned, I remember I
said it on the shirt. I was concerned in the
early days of Biden that, oh my gosh, all he
has to do is not be a crazy person and

(07:09):
not mess everything up. Because you know, Pelosi's trying to
say Trump destroyed all the jobs because of COVID. Yeah,
that's not gonna fly. But if everything's awesome. People don't
care if it's not you that's making them awesome. You know,
you get the credit, whether you deserve it or not.
We should be an economy that is just flying, and
instead we're just being ground down. The people being ground

(07:31):
down are those who are living month to month and
paycheck to paycheck and trying to save a little and
trying to get ahead. They can't because the government is
eroding the dollars that they are being paid and raising
the prices for food, gas, and housing. You hit on
something that I think is summed up by this descriptor
that I read in the Wall Street Journal in the

(07:53):
last couple of days. When Joe Biden came into the
White House, a dollar was worth a dollar February twenty
twenty one. Your dollar is now worth eighty five cents
because of the massive inflation that all of us have experienced.

(08:13):
I know you feel it, but that reference, everybody's dollar
is worth fifteen percent less since Joe Biden came into office.
That explains why your dollar is not going as far.
It's not your imagination. Every time you go through the
checkout line at the grocery. It's not your imagination.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Every time you take your kids or your grandkids to
a fast food restaurant. It's not your imagination when you
sit down. I'm staggered by what things cost. I went,
I buck. I took my sixteen year old out for
a Chinese food on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Hold on, quick pause, your ultimate go to Chinese or
you get one entree or appetizer, but you get one thing.
What is it for you?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
What is changed because I'm trying to eat. It's a
good question because I'm trying to eat healthy now. It
used to be I love orange chicken. I'm a big
orange chicken fan. It's not very healthy. So my son,
who is young and healthy, ordered orange chicken, and I
stole some of his orange chicken. I now get five
flavor shrimp because shrimp is way healthier and it's grilled

(09:28):
as opposed to fried.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So what about you General So's chicken? I could I
could eat enough to give an elephant heartburn. I mean,
I just I need to. I need someone to pull
it away from me. I can eat that General So's
chicken until my hands are falling off.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
This is our neighborhood Chinese place. It was me and him.
We had one tan soup I'm getting full disclosure. One
toon soup and also some egg rolls, right, but not
an ostentatious meal.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You didn't have my agresso martini with your egg roll.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, there's no alcohol involved, I think because I'm a redneck.
I had a mountain dew. He doesn't drink sod. Try
it to drink soda very much. He had he had water.
Fifty seven dollars for the two of us to have
a Chinese meal, no delivery. We were sitting at the restaurant.
Fifty seven dollars. And I just look at that, and

(10:18):
I think to myself, what I bet you remember this?
Like I've gotten used to how much meals cost, because
sometimes I'll be on the road and as a single guy,
that means I'm eating by myself, and I'll look and
I can have a steak, and i can have a
beer and everything else, and the cost is not very
much compared to having my wife and my three kids
with me. I mean, where it's like everything's one hundred

(10:39):
and fifty or two hundred dollars, it feels like now.
But fifty seven dollars for a Chinese meal. Even I
looked at that, and I'm like, how is it possible
that he and I for lunch just had a fifty
seven dollars Chinese meal.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I mean, look this, it's possible because the price of
things that have to be reflected in way that you
can see are going up, and they're going up because
of the trillions of dollars that were spent unnecessarily. Remember
we spent trillions of dollars and dramatically reduced productivity at
the same time. This is like an experiment in inflating

(11:15):
your currency. And unfortunately this is less of a I'm
just speaking the truth. It's probably gonna get in trouble
for this.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Trump spent trillions of dollars in his last year, so
this doesn't hit his hard. Biden's was just completely gratuitous.
Trump's was done under the extreme situation of the early
days of a pandemic. Biden came in spent two trillion additionally,
and then when I spend five trillion more. You know, Clay,
I lived the life as an adult of somebody who
was making a few thousand dollars a month in take home,

(11:46):
had no assets, had no other income stream yep, and
was spending you know, sixty percent. I want to say,
of my take home pay on rent and the rest
of all the money that I made was basically just
going to you know, food and like life necessities. If
you raise those things, if you raise the price of
you know, gas, electricity, rent, food fifteen percent, somebody who's

(12:13):
living off of let's call it, four thousand dollars a
month and take home pay, which is a pretty you know,
that's kind of in the realm of standard, in the
city's standard, maybe middle class, maybe hoping to be middle
class situation. You know, you're looking at a substantial increase
of your monthly expenses. And that's just every month. And

(12:35):
the problem with inflation clays when they talk about more inflation,
it's just getting worse. Right, it's the inflation piled on
top of the that you already have. So you are
on It's like you're a hamster on a treadmill and
you keep trying to run faster and they keep making
the it's not a treadmill. What is it the wheel
they keep treadmill? Is this is a fancy hamster. He's

(12:57):
got like a top ad in a monocle. No, it's
imps on this wheel and the wheel keeps going faster.
And faster and faster, and you can't keep up with it.
I think that's how many people feel.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
And inflation is a tax that is most often born
by people who have to live on a day to
day basis. The wealthier you are, the less inflation impacts you.
But if you're living on a paycheck to paycheck basis,
it's why forty percent is what the Wall Street Journal

(13:28):
said recently. Since Biden became president, fast food meals have
gone up forty percent.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And that is embedded.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Imagine if they talked about inflation over years as opposed
to monthly, because the ten percent inflation is there forever.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And who does that hit the most and the hardest
right away? When you think about it, people, The people
that are the most sensitive to fast food costs as
a general matter, are the people who are being hurt
the most by these trends in the economy, which are
policy decisions out of their control made by people who

(14:07):
aren't affected and don't feel the pain the same way
because they have assets. The assets get inflated along with
the other prices. It is the wage earning and I
don't like this working class. I mean a lot of
people work the wage earning class, or rather people that
live off of wages and not assets. They are trapped
in this mess. And what does Biden offer? More government handouts,

(14:28):
which makes the whole cycle worse, makes the whole cycle
just expand.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
It used to be that gas prices or got what
got people angry, because you know what gas should cost.
You notice the difference when you're standing there filling up
your car. I notice the difference when I go through Costco,
how long the line gets. The longer the higher gas
prices get, the longer the lines get.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
At my local gass Carrie, when she gets back from Costco,
she's like, she's all super nice to me, and I've
realized this is just she's all like bat and rye
lashes and so we to see you, honey, And I'm
just doesn't want me to see that Costco receipt, like, yeah,
he's doing damage, doing damage at Costco. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And then I get the Costco car wash. But now
I feel like it's not only people being angry about
gas prices, because gas prices are constantly fluctuating. Everything has
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
Welcome back into play and fuck. We've got some calls.
Sam and Louisiana. I wanted to get you in.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
What's up, Sam, Jos Jonama, Thanks for taking a call.
Great show as usual. You know, we talk about oil
and some people related to the price of gas. They
are over eight thousand plus items that is made from
oil products. Paint, lipstick, tires, shoes, ten of shoes, go

(17:17):
down the line. People always think about gasoline prices. Go
to the grocery store, the packaging that your meat comes in,
the meat that's produced has to have fertilizer, the vehicles
have to have gasoline and diesel. It just goes on
and on and on and all these president's going out
here doing these handouts right now. How you think they

(17:39):
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It's out there.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, thank you colin it Sam. What you said about
energy prices absolutely true. A half of petroleum that we
use goes to products, not gas. I love that Cajun accent.

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Speaker 4 (18:50):
My name Clay Sleeve, Travis and buck Sexton on the
front lines of truth.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We are
scheduled year term here and are now joined by the
Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton. He is with us
from New York City, where I believe he has spent
part of today so far with Donald Trump, who is
in the courtroom today in New York City dealing with

(19:17):
the insane lawfair that is continuing to play itself out there.
And you got a bunch you want to talk about
with us, and we appreciate you coming on, Attorney General
of Texas Ken Paxton, but I actually want to start
with you.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
You have been.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Through maybe more than almost anyone lawfair of an unprecedented degree,
with people coming after you in the state of Texas.
Have you talked about that with Trump, walked through what
happened to you and is there any lesson that you
can draw from what happened to you that you think
could be applied to what Trump is going through right now?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Oh? Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
As a matter of fact, I was literally just talking
to them and I walked out reading once to go
get on this radio show. And that's something we've talked
about often about how many times since I've been in office,
how many times they've come after me. And the goal
is they try to wear you down, they try to
drain you of your resources, They try to use the
media to force you to resign without ever proving anything,

(20:17):
and they just it's a it is so frustrating that
we're having to deal with this. And I'm sitting here
listening to this trial today and I'm like, this is
just a waste of time, weeks and weeks of just
wasting people's times and putting President Trump under stress that
he shouldn't have to be er. It's it's sad. I'm

(20:39):
sitting here thinking, it's just sad that we're at this
place in our country where the left uses the court
system not to promote justice, not to enforce the rule
of law, but to try to take out political opponents.
And that's exactly what they're doing to him. They've done
it to.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Mere General Paxson. Thanks for being with us. What do
you what do you hear your hope here as you're
observing firsthand what's going on in New York. If the
system is going to maintain any sense of integrity and
if people are going to be able to have any
belief in its fairness going forward. Clearly you can't get

(21:14):
a guilty verdict against Donald Trump because that would just
be giving the law fair crowd exactly what they want.
But are there any things that we should expect in
terms of what the Trump defense is going to be
putting forward, either as claims or as motions in the court,
that you think could help bring about at least a
hung jury, if not an acquittal.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
So I'm not necessarily part of their legal strategy. I
just wanted to come show support for the president and
then speak out generally on the issue of what's going
on here. I mean, we know that he's in a
place where it's difficult to win. It's get to judge
that is probably how's it?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, then tell me this, how's he doing? I mean,
you know, if you don't want to get into the
strategy aspect of it, I mean, how'ses how how is
his state of mind? The whole thing? It just must
be like he's living in some Kafka nightmare.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Well, look, I think it's frustrating to him that he
can't get out on the campaign trail he's running for
I mean, think of it. They timed this so that
he would occur while he's running for president. And I say,
this didn't happen three years ago. This didn't happen two
years ago. It didn't even happen a year ago. It's
happening right now, right before presidential election. And I think
that's very, very frustrating to him. But I will say this,

(22:25):
he's a very upbeat guy despite the fact that they
are trying to destroy his life. So I mean literally,
he's one of the most upbeat people I've ever met.
And he's so resilient. I'm really proud of him.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
We're talking to the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton
right now. In addition to the lawfair that's going on
with Trump, you've got all sorts of craziness breaking out
on university campuses just up the road from where you
guys are now at Columbia, but also back in the
state of Texas, at the University of Texas at Austin,
and I believe at Rice among others, what should happen

(23:02):
to anti Israel protesters in your mind, and how much
would you like to have the authority to resolve what's
going on at Columbia and NY. You right now, how
easy would it be to apply the law and in
these protests if blue city and blue state attorney generals
and law enforcement were willing to do so.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah, And there's a big difference between exercising your First
Amendment right. I think everybody has a right to speak
on whatever they wanted to speak about, until you start
threatening other people and you start causing harm to other people,
like blocking roads. They should never be allowed to block roads.
They should be arrested if they're putting people at risk,
they're slowing down transportation. There are places you can protest,

(23:45):
and people should have every right to have their beliefs
and say what they believe. It's a free country and
we have a first Amendment. But when you start threatening
other people and you start causing harm to other people,
you should be arrested for that harm. And that's not
happening in this center.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
There's a report out and I don't know if you've
gotten this report yourself or if you have some idea
of it, but this is Lily Kepner.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I shared this on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
A source at University of Texas Austin tells me. Of
the seventy seven arrests at yesterday's protest, forty six or
not Texas students. I believe that's around sixty percent of
the arrests not Texas students. When you see these protests
happening all over the place, and you see a lot
of these green pup tents suddenly emerge all over the

(24:33):
place as well, a lot of our listeners, a lot
of us think there's a lot of money being put
behind this. These are not oftentimes college kids. If these
numbers are accurate at Texas, how much of this is
a nationwide issue? And should there be an investigation into
who's funding these protests and how these all came about,
because it sure feels very organized that this would suddenly

(24:55):
emerge so rapidly so many different places.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Yeah, and it reminds me very much of what happened
when we had a Blum protests and Antifa protests. As
we well know now, many of these people are being
paid to come into different cities and states to do
the protests. They weren't just organic protests. So yeah, I'd
love to know what's going on. I'd love to know
who's behind these What I would call non organic protests

(25:19):
that are being organized by somebody in a central location.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Speaking to Attorney General Ken Paxton of State of Texas
AG for the State of Texas, do you think that
these protests are likely to continue on in the places
that they seem to have, at least so far, had
the greatest residence. I mean to me, as it gets warmer,
especially in places like New York and DC, these people

(25:47):
have no incentive other than to continue on what they're doing. Right,
they seem to love the attention. Maybe they don't love
the pepper spray, but they love the attention.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, look, I think it depends on how we treat
it in individual locations. I think if you watched what
happened with b l M and Antifa, Eventually you know
it went away, but it had a dramatic impact on
some of our cities. I've seen, you know, I saw
a lot of businesses shut down. I've seen you know,
hotels shut down. So I don't in the long run,

(26:16):
if we don't address it, the places that don't address it,
they end up suffering the greatest consequences of negative consequences
for not dealing with real issues that affect business and commerce.
And People's Safety.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton with us. He's with
Trump tell by President Trump that Bucking Clay say hi,
and that we need to get him on the show
again soon.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
By the way, when you go back in phone and
I'm going to go say that to him.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I appreciate that, all right.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
So you also are filing a lawsuit regarding Title nine.
I know you're a big sports fan, Buck, and I
watched the Texas Alabama game a couple of years with
you down in Austin the idea, and I'm sure you're
like me, you can't believe that this is the world
we're in where I'm sure you saw out kick asked
Don Staley, Hey, should men be able to identify as

(27:04):
women and play women's sports?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
And she said yes.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
And now the Biden administration basically has endorsed Don Staley's
perspective with their new Title nine law application. What are
you trying to do to ensure that men don't get
to identify as women and dominate women's sports and also
frankly use women's locker rooms and take over places that
otherwise would belong to women.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, it's pretty clear what Congress intended here. They designed
Title nine to protect women's sports, to give women an
opportunity to compete, to have resources, you know, go to them,
allocated and dedicated to women's sports. As as a father
of three daughters now women, you know, I thought it
was it ended up being a great deal for my daughters.

(27:50):
Here we have a choice. And that's just the opposite.
They're rewriting law about going through Congress and changing the
allocation to men to compete against women, which is one
unfair and two is a violation of federal law and
the violation of his ability. He's not allowed in the constitution,
I'd say him, Joe Biden, He's not allowed to just
change the law. These are laws put in place by

(28:13):
elected representatives. So we're assuming him because we don't think
he has the authority to do this. If Congress did it,
it'd be a different story.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
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Speaker 2 (29:58):
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(30:19):
every day. Clay needs to drink a little Crocket coffee
that I get ready for what's coming his way. He
made a little offhand remark about a Cajun accent, and
now our inbox is full of people that are saying
the following. Damon writes, Clay, that's not a Cajun accent.
That caller Sam from Louisa, Louisiana had it is a
classic New Orleans accent, which is often mistaken for a

(30:43):
New York accent by people from outside New Orleans. So
I think the Cajun accent is like, uh oh, here
we go. I'm gonna get banned from all Cajun sounding areas.
I got it on Tea more Alligata in du Bayou, right, Like,
isn't that good?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's pretty happy? We got a ton of these. I
will say, here's some others. That wasn't a yeah. Aj
aj says that wasn't a Cajun accent. That was a
New Orleans ninth Ward or chowmation Yat accent. Wayne says,
well no though, Okay, so people are fired up about.

(31:16):
Wayne had something else he was fired up about. I
have never, in my life ever done anything in media
where people are more obsessed with pronunciation and grammar than
this show. I've done radio now for what almost twenty years,
and I don't know that I've ever gotten a grammar

(31:38):
or pronunciation email. This audience is obsessed with grammar and pronunciation.
And it's not just that I'm a total hicck. Although
literally I just got this email. It's hard to believe
you graduated from law school. And speak like a hick.

(31:58):
Thank you Neil for that email, But I'm honest about this.
I've never seen anything like it. And Ali, you want
to come up here. You say this was an obsession.
Rush got these emails all the time from people complaining
about pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
We now we need someone to call in. Who's who's
who is willing to just admit that they have like
a full on like I go fishing for all to
crawl dad into swamp like a real We need a
real Cajun accent.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
To compare this.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
To by the way, criticizing me for not distinguishing correctly
between New Orleans and Cajun accent, that's a pretty close
geographic area. I would think there's probably a decent overlap
there a little bit. I get lit up all the
time by people who say, I think some of some
of you think I sound like I'm from New York.
But people say that I don't have a New York accent,
and I always have to tell them no, New York

(32:49):
has many accents even within the city.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Like think of England. People who really know England know
there are Liverpool accents, Birmingham accents, a Newcastle, London Cockney
there's all these it's not that big of a place,
and they've got like dozens of regional accents that that
are very interesting. I mean, livpoo, I mean you listen
to the Beatles and listen to like Hugh Grant sounds

(33:13):
very different. I have a Manhattan accent, but what they
think of as a New York accident, and much of
the country would be more of a Queens Long Island
and even Staten Island accent regionally speaking. And this, you know,
this is a thing. I mean, this is this is
just the way it is so Clay, I'm sorry that
you're you're getting lit up by the by the Cajuns

(33:35):
and they arranging at you.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Clay Rush would lean into it. We had a whole
list of funny words that people would correct him on.
And where you guys are going this week? I can't
even say it, but he had a funny wave, right.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, we're going to Louisville. But that's the way that
I would pronounce it in the South. But so Ali,
this was like do you think this is just a
natural derivation of Rush refusing to pronounce the things the
way people wanted. And it's grown from there because I'm
not lying. I have never heard such an obsession with
pronunciation and with grammar from any audience anywhere.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Else in all of media.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Do you think Rush just stoked it and grew it
like because you've been with him? You were with Rush
for twenty years. Do you saw this all the time too?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
I saw it all the time, and I just assumed
this is how it was on every radio show.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
To be honest with you, I asked you during the
break Bok, because you did evenings on many of these
same stations, did you get those emails before you were.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
With me on this show. I mean, look, it's a
small percentage that are you know, there's so many people
that write into to be so nice and supportive. Some
people are a little bit like the sticklers for grammar.
We get grammar sticklers and we get pronunciation sticklers. But that's,
you know, they're just trying to help. They're trying to
help in their own way.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I guarantee I never have seen anything like it, and
I'm I'm kind of fascinated by because I'm thinking, is
it a conservative radio thing? Is it because sports? I mean,
maybe it's just if you can read a score correctly,
like the standard for what your speech patterns are going
to be a relatively low But Kamala Harris can't talk,

(35:17):
Joe Biden can't talk.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
George W.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Bush wasn't exactly the most gifted speaker on the planet.
We've had a lot of poor communicators elected president of
the United States, regardless of politics.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You have to maintain a very high, very high standard here.
You know, we've got very big shoes we're filling here
trying to and we've got to maintain a very high stand.
I welcome, I welcome the critiques as long as they're
directed at Clay. I think it's fantastic. So send it
as many critical emails of pronunciation, just make sure you
address it Clay at the top, and we'll make sure
we get it all fixed. In the meantime. What do

(35:52):
you got for us to the top of the next hour,
buck Man, I wanted to dive into the luget out
moment between Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump, and I think
this is a symbol of good things to come with
GOP unity. I think it's starting.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Hum buy yah, you buy into the Kumbai Yab moment.
You think that DeSantis and Trump and their supporters they're
all coming together in one big happen I can't speak
to everybody in terms of where supporters are going to
be on this one, but I just remember saying, we
know this about Trump. If you there's always room on
the Trump train, if you're trying to help it get

(36:32):
to the right destiny. He allows everybody on the train,
even those who have tried to divert the train. Perhaps,
so we'll talk about DeSantis Trump. I love seeing these
two working in the same direction.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
We'll discuss

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