May 11, 2024 • 36 mins
Clay and Buck at the Kentucky Derby. Columbia University cancels graduation. Biden delays aid for Israel. Buck goes to F1 race in Miami. Trump cheered at F1. Trump rips Judge Merchan's gag order. Merchan finds Trump in contempt again, threatens to jail him. Kristi Noem book blows up her career.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and thank you for all the
kind words about plays and my wives. I messed up
the grammar there, probably, but how lovely they looked at
the Derby. Appreciate it. We were at the Kentucky Derby.
It was a great time, so much fun, first time
(00:23):
ever there. Clay is going to do a big Maya
culpa at some port some point on the show about
his blasphemy, his defamation of the mint julup, which we
now all can see. We can weigh in on this one.
I mean, it's not my favorite drink, but it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. I don't think we need to throw
it under the bus as was done here previously.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Julie Talbot our boss her husband Michael. When I arrived
in Bardstown, Kentucky, which is where her family has lived
for a long time, Michael was making mint julups within
what ten minutes of us getting there. Mint jewel ups
were fabulous. That was a really well made mint julep.
They weren't a disaster. I thought they had improved since
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the last time I was at the Kentucky Derby. I
will also point out that at one point I was
drinking straight coke, just coke, because my wife had had
gotten a coke and I was like, you know, this
mint jewelps is not that bad.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
She said, it's a coke there that is just a
plain coke.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So that's a sign that the more mint jewlops you have,
the less you can taste them.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
In general, I would say, well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Nobody gets clay fully into a corner, but we all
admit now that the mid jewler can at least be
quite tasty. But we got a lot of news. I know,
that's why you're here. So let's dive into some of
what's going on. We've got Trump back in court. Andy
McCarthy will be with us to discuss this one. The
judge has held him in contempt again one thousand dollars fine,
(01:56):
which Trump I think probably does have in the actual
couch cushions at mar A Lago, or rather he could
sell a couch cushion for one thousand dollars fine. But
what's going to happen in this Trump trial? The absurdity
just keeps mounting with each passing day. The judge, any
normal judge would have dismissed this whole thing. There is
no crime. The whole thing is madness. We will discuss
(02:17):
Blake Masters, whom you all will recall, ran for Senate
in Arizona. He's now running for the House there. We're
going to talk to him about Arizona as a GOP
battleground state in this election as well as his own election.
So that's certainly going to be in our focus. Got
Blake Masters, Andy McCarthy. The Fratbrough counter revolution is underway.
(02:40):
Fraternity brothers, as we know, not allowing the American flag
to get pulled down, dragged in the mud and replaced
with a Palestinian flag at certain campuses UNC for example,
a political book that has come out from our own side,
from one of our own on the right, that has
not had the intended effect. We will get to that
(03:02):
in a little bit, and then some other odds and
ends and stories.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I wanted to start though with this clay.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The campus protests are still the number one story in
the country in terms of attention, which is amazing considering
we have a presidential candidate who is going to court
every day in a felony thirty four felony count trial,
which is appalling. Just to say out loud, you hear it,
you say that's insane. But still the campus situation is
(03:31):
the most the single most focused on. Columbia University has
canceled there May fifteen graduation. Here is Fox Business anchor
Cheryl Cossone telling that this is cut one telling us
that Columbia's decided at least one major graduation ceremony is out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The breaking news we're covering here on Fox Business.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Columbia University has officially canceled it's May fifteenth commencement ceremony
in an official announcement, telling students that based on their feedback,
they would be making the centerpiece of the commencement activities
the Class A and school level ceremonies where students aren't
honored individually alongside their peers, rather than the university wide
ceremony that is scheduled for May fifteenth. That is no
(04:17):
longer happening, and we're being told on background that it
does have to do with the safety concerns around the
protests that have been happening here on Columbia's campus.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So Clay, this comes with a backdrop also of the
bid administration delaying arm shipments to Israel. The protesters are
getting some of what they want, despite the pepper spray
and all the whining we've seen in videos.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, and this now means New York Cities, Columbia, and
LA's southern Cow.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Two.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think it's fair to say top twenty five institutions
across the width of the country have decided that they're
not going to have graduations.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm actually curious what you think about graduation ceremonies in general.
The older I get the or I appreciate them, because
I think graduations really are not for the students themselves.
Therefore the parents, which and the and the grandparents and
uh and everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Who has raised the kids.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
How what's your take on the graduation Sarah, I mean
you want to come in sidebar graduations for a second.
I know there's a broader political reality, and we're gonna
go right back to that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
There should be a one hour I actually got this
off of a random x account, although I thought of
similar things. There should just be a one hour rule.
The whole thing should take one hour. My college graduation.
First of all, the the the president's name was Marx
as an M R M A r X for real
as in Carl. Yes, yes, as in Carl, but not
his first name. He gave a speech that was one
(05:44):
big homage to DEI and and inequality. And it was hot,
and it was outside and we're all wearing the capsule.
It was misery. I'm just gonna be honest, it's misery.
Most graduations are misery. Like any wedding that drags on
too long, or any you name it that drags on
too long. Graduations are almost always too long. Nobody really
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cares there should be. This is my idea, a TSA
pre line, so to speak. For graduations, you just get to,
like go up on stage before the big ceremony, have
your photo taken and get out of there, you know,
have your photo taken with your diploma and your family
and get a That's all anyone cares about. No one
cares about the speeches. I know, call me the graduation grinch.
I will wear it like a badge of honor.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I as I.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Get older, am in favor of graduation ceremonies in general,
just because I do think it's more for parents, grandparents,
friends and family because it's a bigger deal to them.
That especially like high school. Let's be honest, you have
to be a real screw up not to manage to
graduate from high school. So the idea that you and
(06:50):
I understand some of you out there, if.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You choose, some people choose not to finish, it's not
necessarily a screw up situation.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But what I'm trying to say is graduating high school
is not a very important or significant accomplishment. If you're
out there and you're like, man, what was the greatest
moment of your life? I graduated high school, I would
suggest to you that you have failed in many respects,
like it should be a stepping stone to something more.
But I do think, as I've got one who is
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now approaching high school graduation, assuming he makes it, that
it will be just kind of a moment to sit
back and think about the fact that you've raised a
kid from the point of being born to eighteen. So
my thing here is that, first of all, high school
is more of a of a moment in time. I
think the college clay college graduations. My brother went to
University of Pennsylvania. He told us, don't come, my graduation
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is in a sports stadium. Yeah right, I mean, at
some of these schools. Okay, you're with ten thousand other
student you don't know, like ninety percent of the people
getting called that the whole thing is absurd. I'm not
saying don't have graduations. I'm just saying, give more options.
And this has nothing to do with the Palace time protest,
by the way, look at that it's like. But I'm
saying that it should be you know, the ceremony should
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be an hour or less, respect people's time, and then
it should be like homecoming. I remember homecoming in college
was you could party all day or you could you
could sort of do it a la card, go to this,
go to that, go to the game. Graduation day should
be like homecoming day, lots of things going on with Instead,
they sit you in the sun, you're sweating through your
gown and it's hour after hour. Maybe this is just
(08:27):
Amerus and some of those like you know, little ivs
and real ives. They bore you to tears and it's
like a punishment ceremony. And I just couldn't get out
of there fast enough. So here's the thing I would say,
irrespective of the sidebar here on the graduation.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Let's get into Columbia and them betting than me.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You can't do this right. You cannot reward awful behavior.
And I just the more I look at this, I
think about it like raising a toddler. If you consistently
give into a toddler, the behavior gets worse and worse.
You're not actually instilling any lesson at all. And when
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one of these schools crumbles, and it's not just canceling graduation,
it's also Northwestern negotiated with the protesters and agreed to
give scholarships to Palestinian students and hire more Palestinian faculty.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
When you fail and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You refuse to manage adulthood and handle these kids like
the spoiled, entitled brats that they are, you embolden kids
at other schools to continue to act up because they say, well,
this school gave in. It's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I also have to say I underestimated.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think it's a little bit of a gut check
moment here. I underestimated just how perfidious the Bided administration
really is.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
For a little word of the day, look at you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The delay of an arm shipment to Israel, Just so
we understand what's going on right now. Israel is preparing
for taking out the last Hamas stronghold in Rafa and
the very southern tip of the Gaza strip kind of
wedged up against Sinai, Israel, I mean Egypt.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They're ready to go in.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're preparing to go in, and right now, I guess
the protests are really focused on divestment and all these
other things, but also pressuring the Biden administration. Biden has delayed.
This was reported the Jerusalem Posts and other reputable as
much as any of these news organizations can be reputable publications,
They've delayed an armshipment to Israel right now as they're
(10:36):
trying to negotiate something over Rafa. Now, all the details
of the behind the scenes are not clear, but Clay,
I think this is just Biden trying to do He's
willing to compromise the effectiveness of an Israeli military operation
with lives at stake in order to placate these shrieking lunatics.
I underestimated and I'm sorry I did it. How vile
(10:58):
Biden really is won't happen again.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, I think it comes down to, and I started
saying this almost six months ago, Michigan. He can't win
Michigan if this conflagration is still going on because the
Arab voters and the Jewish voters are on opposite sides here.
He only won Michigan by around one hundred thousand votes.
(11:21):
A lot of these guys and gals are going to
stay home rather than vote for Biden, and I think, frankly,
a lot of Jewish voters are going to flip. I
don't think that many Arab voters are going to change
their position, because I think they look at Trump and
they say, this is not a guy who's allied with
Arab values. But I do think some Jewish voters will
be flipping. And it doesn't take much. A lot stay home,
(11:43):
a lot don't vote. Maybe they protest, vote for another candidate,
and you end up in a situation where they can't win.
I want to get into this a little bit later, Axios.
I don't know if you saw it. This morning had
a story out about the update that they gave to
the Trump team down at Palm Beach for the big
RNC fundraiser, and they said, the Trump team, did we
(12:05):
think Minnesota and Virginia are in play? And there's an
argument out there that from Democrats. They said, oh, that's
not really true, but I think the board, the math,
the map looks way better for Trump right now than
it does Democrats.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And we'll get into some of that as well, and
what those numbers are looking like. I just say the
desperation of the Democrats is not something we should underestimate either.
I think that there's a little bit of a sense
that there'll be a return to normalcy with a Trump win,
normalcy for normal people, not for the crazies. But Clay,
(12:41):
I can't foresee yet what they're going to do, but
they're willing to do things that we aren't thinking either
about it all, or that we think they wouldn't cross
that line. That's where I think we're heading with this
because it's gonna everyone kind of recognizes now it's gonna
be Biden, and Biden is not up for this, was
never up for this. We'll take some of your calls
on the campus Protestsman, what do you think Columbia canceling
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any ceremony in response to these kids. They've conceded to
the terrorists, the little you know Hamas squad in NYC.
They have made a concession here to the protesters on
this campus. And I think the fact that Biden administration
also might be making some concessions on foreign policy. It
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Monday edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Buck you did a doubleheader.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You went to the Kentucky Derby with me, Laura Carey,
a whole crew, Julie Talbot, Michael We were near the
finish line of the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Amazing day.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We met so many of you listeners out there all
over the place at the Kentucky Derby. But then the
next day you went to f one. How many people
do you think doubled up? And how much coffee did
you need to double up? Saturday? Early morning flight to
Miami on Sunday and you're drinking your Crockett coffee right now.
(16:25):
I was tired because we drove back after the Derby
and didn't get back till around midnight, and when I
woke up on Sunday, I definitely needed some coffee. I
bet you still need a lot on Monday as well.
It was a long weekend. Kerry and I were very tired.
It was amazing. I don't know how many people have
the it's a huge privilege job. As we were invited
(16:45):
to both by friends, had a lot of fun with
you and Laura at Kentucky Derby and Julie and her
husband Michael. So we had a phenomenal time at the derby,
but the Derby took a lot out of us.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So then we had to get up super early to
get to Formula one. I just say Formula one. Like
so many others, I knew nothing until the Netflix series,
and you know, it's it's it's quite an experience. Those
cars are not cars, they are like fighter planes that
are flying a foot off the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's what it looks and feels like.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
How many people go? I don't even know how many
people were at the F one event. If you had
to guess, like over one hundred thousand. Yeah, Like it's
it's a mile long track.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
There's people absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's quite Miami did
a good job with it, I have to say.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So they run through the streets of Miami basically, Like
is that they shut down streets?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Is that the way? Well I didn't even watch it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, No, it's out it's out by the hard Rock.
It's actually out at a big stadium where they did
the Fox event some years Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, I didn't know that. Well, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I know sometimes they take over the city and I
wasn't sure which one they were going to be doing there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We're gonna get back to the news here in a second.
Some encouraging news actually about the world of DEI and
what's happening on campus.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I'll share that with you. Stick around.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
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Down here in Miami.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The man himself, Donald Trump, was there looking at the car.
Some of these drivers go pretty fast. I could go fast,
but they go pretty fast, some people are saying. But
here he is with Chance greeting him as he arrives
in the paddock area of the Formula One Grand Prix
down here in Miami, USA, USA. Play. Now, I want
(19:24):
to juxtapose that. So that's that's Trump arriving at a
at a major international event and having a moment where
the fans going wild the whole thing. Uh, it was interesting.
I will tell you. I was in an area. There
must have been I don't know, a couple of hundred
people in my little section. It's a huge that the
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track is like a mile long, and it's you know,
it's a circuit, so and there's there's grand stands all
along it. I mean, it's a giant event.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So I didn't see Trump, uh, which is obviously sad
for everybody. I didn't see Trump myself, but when he
came on TV, I heard one little section start to
boo and everybody else was clapping and cheering, which I
think is pretty indicative of the feeling in South Florida.
I mean, there's still obviously some lunatic Democrats running around
who think Trump is Hitler or whatever, but generally speaking,
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this is pretty favorable. I mean, Clay, if I had
been in New York City doing this just would have
been a chorus of booze from you know, from the
from the crowd. I think a lot of booze, although
these days maybe not. Maybe New York is actually changing
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I you know, I tweeted this after I saw I
think Margo, his assistant, was sharing some of those videos
from behind the scenes as he was walking through, and
I saw her videos, and obviously we know UFC it is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean, Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Walks in and it is just electricity in the building,
USA chance, overwhelming positivity.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And I've seen him before.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I took the University of Alabama several years This is
several years ago when he was pres isn't it. When
he was there for the LSU game, the Alabama football
stadium I was there, went crazy for him. But the
question I asked is could Joe Biden, Let's presume that
he had the mental and physical capacity to walk along
for that long at a sporting event.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I don't think that Biden could go to f one,
visit one of the race bays, walk along the track
like Wave. I don't think he could legitimately do that.
I think they would be terrified to have him do it.
But is there any sporting event that Joe Biden could
go to?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Any of them?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He could pick his location, he could pick his sport.
Is there anyone where the stadium would cheer him?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
This is It's interesting because you know, I said New
York and really you know, if Trump went to if
Trump was at the Yankees game, for example, I think
most people cheer. I think that crowd cheers. I think
when he's at a sports crowd audience, it's overwhelmingly going
to be people that like him. Even in more Democrat
leaning areas. If you picked eight out of ten New
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Yorkers in Manhattan, for example, or in Brooklyn, which is
even more democrat there, they despise him. I mean, it's
it's this is what I look like.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Trump could get booed. That's not necessarily uncommon. I mean
Trump went, I think to a Washington Nationals game. If
he went to Washington, d C. Sporting event in that,
he would get he would get boots. I mean, so
there are places he would get booed. But I don't
think Biden would get cheered even at that place.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Right, no one this has been accepted. I think for
a while, no one's voting for Biden. They're voting against Trump,
and they're voting for the Democrat Party. If that's how
they're going to cast their vote. Yeah, and I think
that's that's just accepted at this point. I mean, Joe
Biden is really a stand in for the party machinery
of the Democrats. He's not supposed to be a leader.
He's not supposed to be impressive because he is so
obviously not to your point. You know, they were like
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some lemonade stands and things by the derby, you know,
like it was nice, like some kids were operating lemonade
stands because it's a great day to make people parking
cars on their on their front lawns, as in taking
the cars for the Derby, you know, giving people plays
to park. They're making five hundred, one thousand dollars cash
to do this. Yes, they park you know, ten cars,
let's say, on their property something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
More than that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
In some places there are kids operating lemonade stands too.
And we're just like, Joe Biden couldn't do that. And
to the point about, yeah you did. When we were
driving by, my wife went and bought some lemonades. He
was thirsty and uh and you you leaned over and
you're like, Joe Biden legitimately couldn't run that lemonade stand
right now, And you're right, I don't think he could
make change.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't think he can.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That the old the old joke or the old adage
like that guy couldn't run a lemonade stand. And it's like, well,
Joe Biden really couldn't. Nonetheless, this is why they're doing
all the things that they are against. Trump was, on
the one hand, he's at Formula one and and you know,
there's cheering and there's chance of USA and there's this
great excitement, and then he's flying right back to New
York City, leaves Miami for New York City, where he
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has to go through this trial. Nonsense, And here he
is talking about this has cut four. He's talking about
the gag order on him and how this whole thing
not even not only is it a sham case, as
in what they're saying he.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Did, the way they are running.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
This case against him is a sham play it fun.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
This is that first question.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
As you know, they've.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Taken away my constitutional right, so I'm not allowed to
answer that question.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
This has never happened in this country before.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's a ridiculous thing. It's a ridiculous case.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong, and yet the
judges gagged me, and I'm not allowed to talk about
I guess his total conflict.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
The judge is totally conflict.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's totally conflicted, and you want to take a look
at it, and it is unconstitutional that it shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This is a ridiculous situation, not fair, not fair, but
we will fight, Thank you, Clayton.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Judge Juan Mershan has found Trump in contempt again for
the violation of the I think clearly unconstitutional gag order
that is on President Trump. I wonder at one point
we've talked about it, others have brought this up too.
He just has to dare the judge to really like, like,
(25:22):
let's see if the judge really has it in him.
You're gonna put this guy in prison for this, For
this case, You're going to put the not even just
a presidential contender, the guy who right now, if the
election were held, I think everybody knows if the election
were held today, which it's not, but Trump would win,
You're gonna put that guy in prison for this garbage case.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's the Braer Rabbit example.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I probably have done more to help the Braer Rabbit
knowledge on this show than in a long time. And
I every time I mentioned this, I get emails from
people like, I haven't thought about Braer Rabbit forever. He's
daring Merchand to throw him in prison, jail and knowing
that ultimately it benefits him in a huge way. And
(26:07):
Merchand today said, as you're mentioning, oh, I'm finding you
holding you in contempt, by the way, holding him in
contempt for correctly pointing out what the voting patterns are
of the jurisdiction in which he's being tried. I don't
understand how you can be held in contempt for sharing
factual statements. I mean, Clay, what's the point of anyone
being able to have a venue change if you could
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be a presidential candidate who can be tried in an
obviously and overtly hostile jurisdiction in a highly politicized case,
right in the notion that you couldn't get a fair
trial and therefore the trial jurisdiction should be moved.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
If that's not true here, where is it true? Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Like, what's the point of even such a concept. If
Trump has to sit there and suffer through the jury
that he has.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
In New York, well, what also could throw this case
into a total uproar. I think being put in jail
over a contempt citation is incredibly beneficial to Trump, But
also he could appeal that contempt and I don't know
how long they would try to put him there. Maybe
they'd only keep him there a few hours, but in
theory they could put him in thirty days. It keeps
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the trial from continuing, so I don't even understand exactly
how that process would play out. Not to mention, I
think the gag order is actually not legal in the
first place. I don't think this case is going to stand.
You know how we just saw in New York Harvey
Weinstein's case conviction get tossed because they illegitimately included testimony
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that should not have been included in his case and
it perjured the jury or prejudiced the jury. I think
that this case against Trump is going to completely get tossed.
But if he puts him in jail for contempt, it
actually just prolongs how long the trial's going to take,
which makes it that much harder to actually get a
verdict from the jurors because the jurors are just kind
(27:59):
of sitting around waiting. So Trump is I think, kind
of daring Merchand to do a actual punishment here.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Now. I don't know that personally Trump wants.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
To go, but I think he recognizes that politically it
is incredibly beneficial to him. And I think Merchand, who
by all intents and purposes, is basically just a left
wing stooge. Right, He's given the government New York pretty
much everything that they want in this case, and I
don't think he's considered to be a legal heavyweight by
any stretch of the imagination. I think that he is
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not going to actually ever hold Trump in contempt and
put him in jail. And I think Trump knows it,
which is why I think Trump feels very comfortable to
pay one thousand dollars fine. To Trump is like you
were me paying five dollars for a parking violation. We'll
talk about that a little bit more when we come back.
Also start to set the table this Christy know him situation.
(28:59):
I'm not sure I have ever seen a politician write
a book, make a voluntary choice to write a book,
and just light her entire political career on fire to
the extent that she's finished. Maybe she could run for
Senate in South Dakota, maybe she could win statewide office.
Still there, I don't think she has any hope at
(29:20):
this point of ever becoming a national figure. It's really
kind of unbelievable. We'll dive into that more in the meantime.
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Maybe it was one hundred and fifty thousand at the
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Speaker 1 (33:16):
Christy Noam Took.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't know. They gave her three or four hundred
thousand dollars. Maybe it was more to write a book
that to me appears to have lit her entire political
career on fire. It started with this bragging about shooting
a dog, which many people are super fired up about.
It now has turned into a more serious story, I
(33:41):
think in terms of the politics, where she wrote in
the book that she met North Korean dictator Kim Jong
un and was willing to kind of stand up to him.
But it turns out she never met him, and so
we're in this weird spot where I think I mentioned
you buck. Back in the day, Charles Barkley claimed he
(34:03):
was misquoted in his own autobiography, which is really funny.
He didn't even bother to read it. So did Christy.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Knowam never read her own biography. But here's the challenge.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
She did the audio book and it didn't set off
a light bulb to her of Hey, I've never met this.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Like it's a big deal to meet Kim talking about it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Look, I think we generally have a due no harm
on the right policy, I mean unspoken policy is and
we want to help everybody out on the right. I
think we also, though, have a duty you know, is
does that apply when when Mitch McConnell sells out to
the Uniparty and all of a sudden caries more about
Ukraine aid, No, we're going to criticize Mitch McConnell when
he does that. So I think we never want to
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be gratuitous or unnecessarily attacking people on the right, or
even just pointing out some failings or some inconsistencies.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But this is this is We're.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
In a presidential cycle. This is a person who had
been talked about as a people heartbeat of likeliest VP
and you know this, this is what's going on everyone.
I mean, you know we're not when you hear I
think you need to hear the SoundBite to understand why.
It's also frustrating because it plays into I don't like
it when someone on the right does something that takes
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what the left always says about us and and says, see,
there you go, they're just frauds. They're just they're just
pretending to believe things to tell people in rural America
that they don't really believe.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And I can assure you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When you see what happened on this show, that is
what the Democrats are all saying right now. They are
using this to beat all Republicans down and say, see,
Republicans just say things to their base that they don't mean,
like this phony over here. So that's I think it's
accept I think it's understandable to be a.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Little frustrated with them. It's also an own goal, which
is a big part of this. It's not as if
she's being attacked by unfair leftist in the media who
are holding her to a different standard. I will admit
that Biden gets away with a lot of lies, but
to create this yourself in your own book and then
(36:15):
to go on all of these television shows and not
be better prepared for the questions that you know are
I mean, we either want.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Good Republicans who can beat Democrats or we don't. So
if we want good Republicans, we need people to be
honest with their voters and with the base, and part
of I think our job is to make sure that
we're getting the best Republicans in places like the VP.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Slot we possibly can. No doubt, it's a huge deal.
We'll break it down for you
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and thank you for all the
kind words about plays and my wives. I messed up
the grammar there, probably, but how lovely they looked at
the Derby. Appreciate it. We were at the Kentucky Derby.
It was a great time, so much fun, first time
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ever there. Clay is going to do a big Maya
culpa at some port some point on the show about
his blasphemy, his defamation of the mint julup, which we
now all can see. We can weigh in on this one.
I mean, it's not my favorite drink, but it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. I don't think we need to throw
it under the bus as was done here previously.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Julie Talbot our boss her husband Michael. When I arrived
in Bardstown, Kentucky, which is where her family has lived
for a long time, Michael was making mint julups within
what ten minutes of us getting there. Mint jewel ups
were fabulous. That was a really well made mint julep.
They weren't a disaster. I thought they had improved since
(01:08):
the last time I was at the Kentucky Derby. I
will also point out that at one point I was
drinking straight coke, just coke, because my wife had had
gotten a coke and I was like, you know, this
mint jewelps is not that bad.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
She said, it's a coke there that is just a
plain coke.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So that's a sign that the more mint jewlops you have,
the less you can taste them.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
In general, I would say, well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Nobody gets clay fully into a corner, but we all
admit now that the mid jewler can at least be
quite tasty. But we got a lot of news. I know,
that's why you're here. So let's dive into some of
what's going on. We've got Trump back in court. Andy
McCarthy will be with us to discuss this one. The
judge has held him in contempt again one thousand dollars fine,
(01:56):
which Trump I think probably does have in the actual
couch cushions at mar A Lago, or rather he could
sell a couch cushion for one thousand dollars fine. But
what's going to happen in this Trump trial? The absurdity
just keeps mounting with each passing day. The judge, any
normal judge would have dismissed this whole thing. There is
no crime. The whole thing is madness. We will discuss
(02:17):
Blake Masters, whom you all will recall, ran for Senate
in Arizona. He's now running for the House there. We're
going to talk to him about Arizona as a GOP
battleground state in this election as well as his own election.
So that's certainly going to be in our focus. Got
Blake Masters, Andy McCarthy. The Fratbrough counter revolution is underway.
(02:40):
Fraternity brothers, as we know, not allowing the American flag
to get pulled down, dragged in the mud and replaced
with a Palestinian flag at certain campuses UNC for example,
a political book that has come out from our own side,
from one of our own on the right, that has
not had the intended effect. We will get to that
(03:02):
in a little bit, and then some other odds and
ends and stories.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I wanted to start though with this clay.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The campus protests are still the number one story in
the country in terms of attention, which is amazing considering
we have a presidential candidate who is going to court
every day in a felony thirty four felony count trial,
which is appalling. Just to say out loud, you hear it,
you say that's insane. But still the campus situation is
(03:31):
the most the single most focused on. Columbia University has
canceled there May fifteen graduation. Here is Fox Business anchor
Cheryl Cossone telling that this is cut one telling us
that Columbia's decided at least one major graduation ceremony is out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The breaking news we're covering here on Fox Business.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Columbia University has officially canceled it's May fifteenth commencement ceremony
in an official announcement, telling students that based on their feedback,
they would be making the centerpiece of the commencement activities
the Class A and school level ceremonies where students aren't
honored individually alongside their peers, rather than the university wide
ceremony that is scheduled for May fifteenth. That is no
(04:17):
longer happening, and we're being told on background that it
does have to do with the safety concerns around the
protests that have been happening here on Columbia's campus.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So Clay, this comes with a backdrop also of the
bid administration delaying arm shipments to Israel. The protesters are
getting some of what they want, despite the pepper spray
and all the whining we've seen in videos.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, and this now means New York Cities, Columbia, and
LA's southern Cow.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Two.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think it's fair to say top twenty five institutions
across the width of the country have decided that they're
not going to have graduations.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm actually curious what you think about graduation ceremonies in general.
The older I get the or I appreciate them, because
I think graduations really are not for the students themselves.
Therefore the parents, which and the and the grandparents and
uh and everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Who has raised the kids.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
How what's your take on the graduation Sarah, I mean
you want to come in sidebar graduations for a second.
I know there's a broader political reality, and we're gonna
go right back to that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
There should be a one hour I actually got this
off of a random x account, although I thought of
similar things. There should just be a one hour rule.
The whole thing should take one hour. My college graduation.
First of all, the the the president's name was Marx
as an M R M A r X for real
as in Carl. Yes, yes, as in Carl, but not
his first name. He gave a speech that was one
(05:44):
big homage to DEI and and inequality. And it was hot,
and it was outside and we're all wearing the capsule.
It was misery. I'm just gonna be honest, it's misery.
Most graduations are misery. Like any wedding that drags on
too long, or any you name it that drags on
too long. Graduations are almost always too long. Nobody really
(06:08):
cares there should be. This is my idea, a TSA
pre line, so to speak. For graduations, you just get to,
like go up on stage before the big ceremony, have
your photo taken and get out of there, you know,
have your photo taken with your diploma and your family
and get a That's all anyone cares about. No one
cares about the speeches. I know, call me the graduation grinch.
I will wear it like a badge of honor.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I as I.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Get older, am in favor of graduation ceremonies in general,
just because I do think it's more for parents, grandparents,
friends and family because it's a bigger deal to them.
That especially like high school. Let's be honest, you have
to be a real screw up not to manage to
graduate from high school. So the idea that you and
(06:50):
I understand some of you out there, if.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You choose, some people choose not to finish, it's not
necessarily a screw up situation.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But what I'm trying to say is graduating high school
is not a very important or significant accomplishment. If you're
out there and you're like, man, what was the greatest
moment of your life? I graduated high school, I would
suggest to you that you have failed in many respects,
like it should be a stepping stone to something more.
But I do think, as I've got one who is
(07:19):
now approaching high school graduation, assuming he makes it, that
it will be just kind of a moment to sit
back and think about the fact that you've raised a
kid from the point of being born to eighteen. So
my thing here is that, first of all, high school
is more of a of a moment in time. I
think the college clay college graduations. My brother went to
University of Pennsylvania. He told us, don't come, my graduation
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is in a sports stadium. Yeah right, I mean, at
some of these schools. Okay, you're with ten thousand other
student you don't know, like ninety percent of the people
getting called that the whole thing is absurd. I'm not
saying don't have graduations. I'm just saying, give more options.
And this has nothing to do with the Palace time protest,
by the way, look at that it's like. But I'm
saying that it should be you know, the ceremony should
(08:04):
be an hour or less, respect people's time, and then
it should be like homecoming. I remember homecoming in college
was you could party all day or you could you
could sort of do it a la card, go to this,
go to that, go to the game. Graduation day should
be like homecoming day, lots of things going on with Instead,
they sit you in the sun, you're sweating through your
gown and it's hour after hour. Maybe this is just
(08:27):
Amerus and some of those like you know, little ivs
and real ives. They bore you to tears and it's
like a punishment ceremony. And I just couldn't get out
of there fast enough. So here's the thing I would say,
irrespective of the sidebar here on the graduation.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Let's get into Columbia and them betting than me.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You can't do this right. You cannot reward awful behavior.
And I just the more I look at this, I
think about it like raising a toddler. If you consistently
give into a toddler, the behavior gets worse and worse.
You're not actually instilling any lesson at all. And when
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one of these schools crumbles, and it's not just canceling graduation,
it's also Northwestern negotiated with the protesters and agreed to
give scholarships to Palestinian students and hire more Palestinian faculty.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
When you fail and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You refuse to manage adulthood and handle these kids like
the spoiled, entitled brats that they are, you embolden kids
at other schools to continue to act up because they say, well,
this school gave in. It's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I also have to say I underestimated.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think it's a little bit of a gut check
moment here. I underestimated just how perfidious the Bided administration
really is.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
For a little word of the day, look at you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The delay of an arm shipment to Israel, Just so
we understand what's going on right now. Israel is preparing
for taking out the last Hamas stronghold in Rafa and
the very southern tip of the Gaza strip kind of
wedged up against Sinai, Israel, I mean Egypt.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They're ready to go in.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're preparing to go in, and right now, I guess
the protests are really focused on divestment and all these
other things, but also pressuring the Biden administration. Biden has delayed.
This was reported the Jerusalem Posts and other reputable as
much as any of these news organizations can be reputable publications,
They've delayed an armshipment to Israel right now as they're
(10:36):
trying to negotiate something over Rafa. Now, all the details
of the behind the scenes are not clear, but Clay,
I think this is just Biden trying to do He's
willing to compromise the effectiveness of an Israeli military operation
with lives at stake in order to placate these shrieking lunatics.
I underestimated and I'm sorry I did it. How vile
(10:58):
Biden really is won't happen again.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, I think it comes down to, and I started
saying this almost six months ago, Michigan. He can't win
Michigan if this conflagration is still going on because the
Arab voters and the Jewish voters are on opposite sides here.
He only won Michigan by around one hundred thousand votes.
(11:21):
A lot of these guys and gals are going to
stay home rather than vote for Biden, and I think, frankly,
a lot of Jewish voters are going to flip. I
don't think that many Arab voters are going to change
their position, because I think they look at Trump and
they say, this is not a guy who's allied with
Arab values. But I do think some Jewish voters will
be flipping. And it doesn't take much. A lot stay home,
(11:43):
a lot don't vote. Maybe they protest, vote for another candidate,
and you end up in a situation where they can't win.
I want to get into this a little bit later, Axios.
I don't know if you saw it. This morning had
a story out about the update that they gave to
the Trump team down at Palm Beach for the big
RNC fundraiser, and they said, the Trump team, did we
(12:05):
think Minnesota and Virginia are in play? And there's an
argument out there that from Democrats. They said, oh, that's
not really true, but I think the board, the math,
the map looks way better for Trump right now than
it does Democrats.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And we'll get into some of that as well, and
what those numbers are looking like. I just say the
desperation of the Democrats is not something we should underestimate either.
I think that there's a little bit of a sense
that there'll be a return to normalcy with a Trump win,
normalcy for normal people, not for the crazies. But Clay,
(12:41):
I can't foresee yet what they're going to do, but
they're willing to do things that we aren't thinking either
about it all, or that we think they wouldn't cross
that line. That's where I think we're heading with this
because it's gonna everyone kind of recognizes now it's gonna
be Biden, and Biden is not up for this, was
never up for this. We'll take some of your calls
on the campus Protestsman, what do you think Columbia canceling
(13:04):
any ceremony in response to these kids. They've conceded to
the terrorists, the little you know Hamas squad in NYC.
They have made a concession here to the protesters on
this campus. And I think the fact that Biden administration
also might be making some concessions on foreign policy. It
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Monday edition of the program.
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Buck you did a doubleheader.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
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a whole crew, Julie Talbot, Michael We were near the
finish line of the Kentucky Derby.
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Amazing day.
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We met so many of you listeners out there all
over the place at the Kentucky Derby. But then the
next day you went to f one. How many people
do you think doubled up? And how much coffee did
you need to double up? Saturday? Early morning flight to
Miami on Sunday and you're drinking your Crockett coffee right now.
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I was tired because we drove back after the Derby
and didn't get back till around midnight, and when I
woke up on Sunday, I definitely needed some coffee. I
bet you still need a lot on Monday as well.
It was a long weekend. Kerry and I were very tired.
It was amazing. I don't know how many people have
the it's a huge privilege job. As we were invited
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to both by friends, had a lot of fun with
you and Laura at Kentucky Derby and Julie and her
husband Michael. So we had a phenomenal time at the derby,
but the Derby took a lot out of us.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So then we had to get up super early to
get to Formula one. I just say Formula one. Like
so many others, I knew nothing until the Netflix series,
and you know, it's it's it's quite an experience. Those
cars are not cars, they are like fighter planes that
are flying a foot off the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's what it looks and feels like.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
How many people go? I don't even know how many
people were at the F one event. If you had
to guess, like over one hundred thousand. Yeah, Like it's
it's a mile long track.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
There's people absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's quite Miami did
a good job with it, I have to say.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So they run through the streets of Miami basically, Like
is that they shut down streets?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Is that the way? Well I didn't even watch it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, No, it's out it's out by the hard Rock.
It's actually out at a big stadium where they did
the Fox event some years Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, I didn't know that. Well, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I know sometimes they take over the city and I
wasn't sure which one they were going to be doing there.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Down here in Miami.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The man himself, Donald Trump, was there looking at the car.
Some of these drivers go pretty fast. I could go fast,
but they go pretty fast, some people are saying. But
here he is with Chance greeting him as he arrives
in the paddock area of the Formula One Grand Prix
down here in Miami, USA, USA. Play. Now, I want
(19:24):
to juxtapose that. So that's that's Trump arriving at a
at a major international event and having a moment where
the fans going wild the whole thing. Uh, it was interesting.
I will tell you. I was in an area. There
must have been I don't know, a couple of hundred
people in my little section. It's a huge that the
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track is like a mile long, and it's you know,
it's a circuit, so and there's there's grand stands all
along it. I mean, it's a giant event.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So I didn't see Trump, uh, which is obviously sad
for everybody. I didn't see Trump myself, but when he
came on TV, I heard one little section start to
boo and everybody else was clapping and cheering, which I
think is pretty indicative of the feeling in South Florida.
I mean, there's still obviously some lunatic Democrats running around
who think Trump is Hitler or whatever, but generally speaking,
(20:14):
this is pretty favorable. I mean, Clay, if I had
been in New York City doing this just would have
been a chorus of booze from you know, from the
from the crowd. I think a lot of booze, although
these days maybe not. Maybe New York is actually changing
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I you know, I tweeted this after I saw I
think Margo, his assistant, was sharing some of those videos
from behind the scenes as he was walking through, and
I saw her videos, and obviously we know UFC it is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean, Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Walks in and it is just electricity in the building,
USA chance, overwhelming positivity.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And I've seen him before.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I took the University of Alabama several years This is
several years ago when he was pres isn't it. When
he was there for the LSU game, the Alabama football
stadium I was there, went crazy for him. But the
question I asked is could Joe Biden, Let's presume that
he had the mental and physical capacity to walk along
for that long at a sporting event.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I don't think that Biden could go to f one,
visit one of the race bays, walk along the track
like Wave. I don't think he could legitimately do that.
I think they would be terrified to have him do it.
But is there any sporting event that Joe Biden could
go to?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Any of them?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He could pick his location, he could pick his sport.
Is there anyone where the stadium would cheer him?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
This is It's interesting because you know, I said New
York and really you know, if Trump went to if
Trump was at the Yankees game, for example, I think
most people cheer. I think that crowd cheers. I think
when he's at a sports crowd audience, it's overwhelmingly going
to be people that like him. Even in more Democrat
leaning areas. If you picked eight out of ten New
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Yorkers in Manhattan, for example, or in Brooklyn, which is
even more democrat there, they despise him. I mean, it's
it's this is what I look like.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Trump could get booed. That's not necessarily uncommon. I mean
Trump went, I think to a Washington Nationals game. If
he went to Washington, d C. Sporting event in that,
he would get he would get boots. I mean, so
there are places he would get booed. But I don't
think Biden would get cheered even at that place.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Right, no one this has been accepted. I think for
a while, no one's voting for Biden. They're voting against Trump,
and they're voting for the Democrat Party. If that's how
they're going to cast their vote. Yeah, and I think
that's that's just accepted at this point. I mean, Joe
Biden is really a stand in for the party machinery
of the Democrats. He's not supposed to be a leader.
He's not supposed to be impressive because he is so
obviously not to your point. You know, they were like
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some lemonade stands and things by the derby, you know,
like it was nice, like some kids were operating lemonade
stands because it's a great day to make people parking
cars on their on their front lawns, as in taking
the cars for the Derby, you know, giving people plays
to park. They're making five hundred, one thousand dollars cash
to do this. Yes, they park you know, ten cars,
let's say, on their property something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
More than that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
In some places there are kids operating lemonade stands too.
And we're just like, Joe Biden couldn't do that. And
to the point about, yeah you did. When we were
driving by, my wife went and bought some lemonades. He
was thirsty and uh and you you leaned over and
you're like, Joe Biden legitimately couldn't run that lemonade stand
right now, And you're right, I don't think he could
make change.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't think he can.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That the old the old joke or the old adage
like that guy couldn't run a lemonade stand. And it's like, well,
Joe Biden really couldn't. Nonetheless, this is why they're doing
all the things that they are against. Trump was, on
the one hand, he's at Formula one and and you know,
there's cheering and there's chance of USA and there's this
great excitement, and then he's flying right back to New
York City, leaves Miami for New York City, where he
(23:57):
has to go through this trial. Nonsense, And here he
is talking about this has cut four. He's talking about
the gag order on him and how this whole thing
not even not only is it a sham case, as
in what they're saying he.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Did, the way they are running.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
This case against him is a sham play it fun.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
This is that first question.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
As you know, they've.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Taken away my constitutional right, so I'm not allowed to
answer that question.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
This has never happened in this country before.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's a ridiculous thing. It's a ridiculous case.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong, and yet the
judges gagged me, and I'm not allowed to talk about
I guess his total conflict.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
The judge is totally conflict.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's totally conflicted, and you want to take a look
at it, and it is unconstitutional that it shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This is a ridiculous situation, not fair, not fair, but
we will fight, Thank you, Clayton.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Judge Juan Mershan has found Trump in contempt again for
the violation of the I think clearly unconstitutional gag order
that is on President Trump. I wonder at one point
we've talked about it, others have brought this up too.
He just has to dare the judge to really like, like,
(25:22):
let's see if the judge really has it in him.
You're gonna put this guy in prison for this, For
this case, You're going to put the not even just
a presidential contender, the guy who right now, if the
election were held, I think everybody knows if the election
were held today, which it's not, but Trump would win,
You're gonna put that guy in prison for this garbage case.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's the Braer Rabbit example.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I probably have done more to help the Braer Rabbit
knowledge on this show than in a long time. And
I every time I mentioned this, I get emails from
people like, I haven't thought about Braer Rabbit forever. He's
daring Merchand to throw him in prison, jail and knowing
that ultimately it benefits him in a huge way. And
(26:07):
Merchand today said, as you're mentioning, oh, I'm finding you
holding you in contempt, by the way, holding him in
contempt for correctly pointing out what the voting patterns are
of the jurisdiction in which he's being tried. I don't
understand how you can be held in contempt for sharing
factual statements. I mean, Clay, what's the point of anyone
being able to have a venue change if you could
(26:28):
be a presidential candidate who can be tried in an
obviously and overtly hostile jurisdiction in a highly politicized case,
right in the notion that you couldn't get a fair
trial and therefore the trial jurisdiction should be moved.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
If that's not true here, where is it true? Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Like, what's the point of even such a concept. If
Trump has to sit there and suffer through the jury
that he has.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
In New York, well, what also could throw this case
into a total uproar. I think being put in jail
over a contempt citation is incredibly beneficial to Trump, But
also he could appeal that contempt and I don't know
how long they would try to put him there. Maybe
they'd only keep him there a few hours, but in
theory they could put him in thirty days. It keeps
(27:13):
the trial from continuing, so I don't even understand exactly
how that process would play out. Not to mention, I
think the gag order is actually not legal in the
first place. I don't think this case is going to stand.
You know how we just saw in New York Harvey
Weinstein's case conviction get tossed because they illegitimately included testimony
(27:38):
that should not have been included in his case and
it perjured the jury or prejudiced the jury. I think
that this case against Trump is going to completely get tossed.
But if he puts him in jail for contempt, it
actually just prolongs how long the trial's going to take,
which makes it that much harder to actually get a
verdict from the jurors because the jurors are just kind
(27:59):
of sitting around waiting. So Trump is I think, kind
of daring Merchand to do a actual punishment here.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Now. I don't know that personally Trump wants.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
To go, but I think he recognizes that politically it
is incredibly beneficial to him. And I think Merchand, who
by all intents and purposes, is basically just a left
wing stooge. Right, He's given the government New York pretty
much everything that they want in this case, and I
don't think he's considered to be a legal heavyweight by
any stretch of the imagination. I think that he is
(28:34):
not going to actually ever hold Trump in contempt and
put him in jail. And I think Trump knows it,
which is why I think Trump feels very comfortable to
pay one thousand dollars fine. To Trump is like you
were me paying five dollars for a parking violation. We'll
talk about that a little bit more when we come back.
Also start to set the table this Christy know him situation.
(28:59):
I'm not sure I have ever seen a politician write
a book, make a voluntary choice to write a book,
and just light her entire political career on fire to
the extent that she's finished. Maybe she could run for
Senate in South Dakota, maybe she could win statewide office.
Still there, I don't think she has any hope at
(29:20):
this point of ever becoming a national figure. It's really
kind of unbelievable. We'll dive into that more in the meantime.
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Speaker 1 (32:28):
To f One. How many people do you think went
to both Buck in the hundreds max, a couple of hundreds.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Maybe it was one hundred and fifty thousand at the
Kentucky Derby. One of the biggest crowds of the party
at the Derby, like you gotta be ready to put
your party hat on literally and figura figuratively, you gotta
be ready to go. I don't know how many people could.
And it's like six hours long, ye so, or at
least I think we were there for seven hours, So
not that many people who aren't in their twenties could
(32:57):
pull that off. And not that many people are flying
from one derby the other, or from one race to
the other who were in their twenties, I would think
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Speaker 1 (33:16):
Christy Noam Took.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't know. They gave her three or four hundred
thousand dollars. Maybe it was more to write a book
that to me appears to have lit her entire political
career on fire. It started with this bragging about shooting
a dog, which many people are super fired up about.
It now has turned into a more serious story, I
(33:41):
think in terms of the politics, where she wrote in
the book that she met North Korean dictator Kim Jong
un and was willing to kind of stand up to him.
But it turns out she never met him, and so
we're in this weird spot where I think I mentioned
you buck. Back in the day, Charles Barkley claimed he
(34:03):
was misquoted in his own autobiography, which is really funny.
He didn't even bother to read it. So did Christy.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Knowam never read her own biography. But here's the challenge.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
She did the audio book and it didn't set off
a light bulb to her of Hey, I've never met this.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Like it's a big deal to meet Kim talking about it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Look, I think we generally have a due no harm
on the right policy, I mean unspoken policy is and
we want to help everybody out on the right. I
think we also, though, have a duty you know, is
does that apply when when Mitch McConnell sells out to
the Uniparty and all of a sudden caries more about
Ukraine aid, No, we're going to criticize Mitch McConnell when
he does that. So I think we never want to
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be gratuitous or unnecessarily attacking people on the right, or
even just pointing out some failings or some inconsistencies.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But this is this is We're.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
In a presidential cycle. This is a person who had
been talked about as a people heartbeat of likeliest VP
and you know this, this is what's going on everyone.
I mean, you know we're not when you hear I
think you need to hear the SoundBite to understand why.
It's also frustrating because it plays into I don't like
it when someone on the right does something that takes
(35:21):
what the left always says about us and and says, see,
there you go, they're just frauds. They're just they're just
pretending to believe things to tell people in rural America
that they don't really believe.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And I can assure you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When you see what happened on this show, that is
what the Democrats are all saying right now. They are
using this to beat all Republicans down and say, see,
Republicans just say things to their base that they don't mean,
like this phony over here. So that's I think it's
accept I think it's understandable to be a.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Little frustrated with them. It's also an own goal, which
is a big part of this. It's not as if
she's being attacked by unfair leftist in the media who
are holding her to a different standard. I will admit
that Biden gets away with a lot of lies, but
to create this yourself in your own book and then
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to go on all of these television shows and not
be better prepared for the questions that you know are
I mean, we either want.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Good Republicans who can beat Democrats or we don't. So
if we want good Republicans, we need people to be
honest with their voters and with the base, and part
of I think our job is to make sure that
we're getting the best Republicans in places like the VP.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Slot we possibly can. No doubt, it's a huge deal.
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