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May 21, 2023 83 mins

The guys planned to talk about the debt ceiling crisis.  They did that, more of a teaser for how bad it could go…keep an eye on that as we approach the June 1, 2023 deadline.  

 In the meantime, and for most of this episode, the conversation centered on what it takes for people to sleep well at night.  Is it financial security?  Maybe physical security, or knowing we've done everything possible to keep our families safe.  Or something else entirely…

There's a few nuggets of "dealing with other people" in there, too.  Basically…mind your own business and be prepared for all the things.  If you'd like to learn more, give it a listen.  

We'll keep rocking these Season 4 episodes, and final reminder that the gents will be live and in person at the Willie Nelson concert this Tuesday evening…let us know if you'll be there too.


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