Bumbling Authoritarian Lectures Americans Again
By Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
September 16, 2021
CLAY: There is some breaking news as Joe Biden has spoken, and he has continued to flog his vaccine mandate and argue that anyone who is opposing is basically like the guy in Target walking around yelling at the woman. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you need to see that video, and/or go listen to our program where we played it. But Joe Biden on the vaccine. Let’s play cut 29.
BIDEN: And we’re facing a lot of pushback, especially from some of the Republican governors. The governors of Florida and Texas are doing everything they can to undermine the life-saving requirements that I’ve prepared. Some of the same governors attacking me are in states with the strictest vaccine mandates for children attending school in the entire country.
For example, in Mississippi, children are required to be vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, hepatitis B, polio, tetanus, and more. These are state requirements. But in the midst of the pandemic that has already taken over 660,000 lives, I proposed a requirement for covid vaccines, and the governor of that state calls it, quote, “a tyrannical-type move”? A tyrannical-type move? This the worst kind of politics, ’cause it’s putting the lives of citizens of their states, especially children, the risk, and I refuse to give into it.
CLAY: All right. I’m fired up about this, because I’m a parent and I am so sick of every time any parent raises an issue with masks or vaccine requirements for kids, that we get lectured as if we are putting our kids in danger. There is nothing in my life, Buck, that matters more than my three boys. By the way, one had a birthday yesterday and turned 11.
The other one is having a birthday tomorrow and turning 7. Happy birthday to my two youngest. But all of those viruses and vaccine requirements that Joe Biden just ran through — this is important — are dangerous to children. There is not a requirement that kids get the flu vaccine, the flu shot. The flu, the seasonal flu kills far more young children every year in this country than covid has since the outbreak started in March of last year.
We don’t require kids to get vaccines for viruses that are not dangerous to them. This is an unconstitutional federalization of vaccine mandate that has never occurred in the history of the country. State and local governments have the right to make decisions as they see fit. The federal government cannot bigfoot itself on top of those state requirements. And again, those viruses that he mentioned are far more dangerous and deadly to children than covid is.
BUCK: This is why I was saying weeks ago — and had a conversation with certain governor about getting ahead of this by creating protections because, as you heard when Senator Cruz was on, they are planning on making people get the shot now and worrying about the legal battle later.
So if you’re gonna bend the knee in a red state with a very Republican population — and a small population at that — to corporations and not defend people now, what you do in six months in court ain’t gonna matter. That’s the point. And that’s why you’ll notice, who is he going after? Who is Biden going after? Florida and Texas, because they’ve taken actions right now, and they have large populations and so are more of a target for the Democrat Party at a national level.
But, Clay, that’s important. Everybody says, “Oh, it’s unconstitutional.” Yeah, they probably know that deep down, but the point is, once you got the shot, you got the shot, and they’re putting the mandates in place now. So you gotta take action before the needle goes in the arm. I speak of something, unfortunately, of which I know.
Clay, you mentioned the data, by the way. I pulled it up because you keep saying more dangerous than, right? Okay. The covid-19 virus is a one-in-a-million disease in terms of fatality for children under the age of 12. I think it’s under the age of 18, but certainly, you have a one-in-a-million shot. If you were to, say, get measles, let’s say three in a thousand children die.
CLAY: Way more dangerous.
BUCK: Three in a thousand is very different from one in a million. We can all do the math on this, right? You have a thousand times greater likelihood — if you’re talking about one in a thousand, let’s say — dying of measles than you do of covid as a child. And then polio, which of course also has… Paralytic polio. You’re talking about kids are gonna be paralyzed.
It’s about two to 5% among children. So if you have a hundred kids that get polio; three, four, five of them might be paralyzed for life. Not one in a million. It’s out of a hundred. Entirely different. This is like when they say, “Oh, what about the smallpox.” Smallpox kills 30% of all people who get it!
It wiped out the native population in America. Ninety-seven percent of indigenous populations in America were killed by smallpox, not actually by the evil white colonial settlers. So that’s something that I think we should factor into our discussion here about risk and the realities therein.
CLAY: And to put it into context even more, your kids and my kids –because, again, I care about my kids more than anything. If I believed I was putting them at risk by sending them to school without masks and without vaccines, guess what? I wouldn’t do it. They matter more to me than anything in the world, like your kids and your grandkids matter to you.
Unfortunately, your kids are far more likely to drown than they are to die of covid. Your kids are far more likely to be murdered than they are to die of covid. Your kids are far more likely to commit suicide than they are to die of covid. Your kids are far more likely to die of the seasonal flu. I ask you this for this reason.
Part of being an adult, maybe the most important part, is understanding how to assess risk and raising your kids to do the same. Would you consider it to be psychologically stable if your neighbor said, “I’m not putting my kids in school this year because I’m worried that they’re going to get murdered going in the car.
Somebody’s gonna drive-by shoot them or they’re gonna die in a car accident driving to school.” Would that be a psychologically healthy idea? The answer for almost everybody out there is, no, I would worry about the psychological health of a parent making that choice. Guess what? The kids are under far more danger of dying driving to and from school and of being murdered than they are from covid.
Rational adults have to look at evidence and teach kids how to rationally assess risk. Swimming is dangerous. But we don’t tell kids they can never get in a lake or get in a swimming pool. We try to make sure that we are making smart decisions. We can’t hide in our basement like Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential campaign for the rest of our lives.
BUCK: Remember how I brought up sharks and shark attacks and how we all fixate on it, Clay?
BUCK: What I’ve actually realized is we are not even… When it comes to covid the analogy isn’t we are scared as a culture, as a society of shark attacks in just the ocean. We’ve now turned into a country where people are scared in their swimming pool. “I don’t know, maybe there’s a shark or a gator got in here.”
CLAY: By the way, after I saw watched Jaws the first time, I was. That’s how scared I was of water.
BUCK: You go in the deep end, something tugs at your foot, you think, “We’ve turned into a society that’s worried about being eaten by a great white shark seven feet deep in their freshwater swimming pool because we’ve seen too many movies.” That’s what’s actually happened here.
CLAY: That’s a good analogy.
BIDEN: Wall Street firms have analyzed the impact of these plans, and they’re projecting that these new requirements will help 12 million more Americans get vaccinated, which will help more businesses stay open and more Americans back to work. The data shows the overwhelming majority of Americans agree with my proposal. That is no surprise, given that 76% of American adults have already gotten at least one shot.
BUCK: Bumbling, stumbling Biden there is like, “Get vaccinated! It’ll also boost the economy. It’s all tied together. Do what we say. We have all the answers, even though we’re constantly wrong and making a mess of everything. But listen to us.” That’s really the Democrat mantra: “We’re constantly wrong, but you have to keep listening to us no matter what.” Okay. I say, no. I say that’s a bad idea. I think that’s something that we should reject out of hand. We got a lot of calls here, and we have not a whole lot of time. Clay, what do you say? Want to get to it?
CLAY: Let’s dive in.
BUCK: Natalie in Scottsdale, Arizona. I’ve always wanted to go to Scottsdale. People say I would love it.
CLAY: It’s a fantastic place. You haven’t been?
BUCK: Never been.
CALLER: It’s a great place. I’m a native. I’m gonna be real quick ’cause I know you had a whole lot of people. But I had an experience with neutered individual —
CALLER: — like that man in Target when I went to Walmart, and the man at the door said, “Excuse me, ma’am, masks are required,” and I said, “No, thank you.” I was nice, smiled. The neutered man behind me said, “Uh, ma’am, he said masks are required.” So I looked him in the eye and I said… I won’t use the actual swear words. I said, “Mind your own business, MF-er,” and —
CALLER: — I walked away, aware of him to come in after he got down wiping down his little card and I told him, “Hey! You ain’t my daddy. You don’t pay my bills. You don’t tell me what to do.” I said, “It’s a good way to get your face chewed off, MF-er,” and he walked his tail between his legs to the back of the store.
And I didn’t have a problem. And that’s how you have to handle these people. Unfortunately, we have too many neutered individuals, and I’m sorry, men out there? Don’t fall for this. The feminazis may not want you, but the real women do. We like manly men. We like to you stand up for us. We like you to be a gentleman.
We like you to hold open the doors. We like to you treat us like. We like you to pay for a dinner. It’s okay. Don’t listen the feminazis. They are the crap stains of America. And Joe Biden says parents are a danger to their kids? No, the only thing that’s (laughing) dangerous to our kids or to children is Joe Biden.
BUCK: Well, I gotta say, Natalie. I think I may be looking at real estate in Scottsdale now.
BUCK: I gotta move to Scottsdale, Arizona, apparently.
CLAY: I will say this. As a single man, Scottsdale, Arizona, is a top 10 hot woman city in America. I have been out in Scottsdale and looked around and been like, “How is this place real?” In all honesty. I remember sitting with a buddy and being like, I don’t even know where they sell clothes like these that the women were wearing. I’ll tell you, single men you’ll have a good time in Scottsdale.
BUCK: Sounds like Promised Land. Good heavens.
CLAY: It is the Promised Land.
BUCK: Let’s just see. We have Cliff in Fayetteville, North Carolina. What’s up, Cliff?
CALLER: Hey, what’s up? Well, I’m one of those manly men! (laughing)
BUCK: I’ll see you in Scottsdale, Cliff.
CALLER: Well, so, anyway, you know, because of these frigging idiotic vaccine mandates, my wife has health insurance through her company.
CALLER: And now they have required that all unvaccinated employees get the vaccine or pay an extra $100 a month until you get that vaccine.
CLAY: I’ve heard about this. I’ve heard about this. And thanks for the call. And this is where, again, if you have natural immunity, you’re actually more protected than the people who are vaccinated. But this is where they’re trying to do everything they can to basically force you to get the vaccine, right, Buck? This is what’s going on.
BUCK: Yeah. They’re saying we’re not going to make you but they’re just going to make your life miserable. It would be like telling somebody, “I’m not going to evict you from your apartment. I’m just going to turn off your heat –”
BUCK: “– and your hot water and make sure that your neighbors throw the loudest parties imaginable. But I’m not making you leave your apartment.” That is what the government, Biden, Fauci approach is — and remember, for our lady before from Scottsdale, still on our mind over here at the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. You could always just tell ’em to go Fauci themselves, and you could always say that to TV too. So there you go.
CLAY: What about Nick in Orlando, here, Buck? Let’s see what Nick has to say.
BUCK: What do you got, Nick?
CALLER: Hey, Clay and Buck, thanks for having me. My name is Nick Caturano. I’m a cast member for 16 years. With the Disney mandates and me recently getting covid, I started reviewing all the data, and we did the ivermectin, my wife and I, and got better. And one thing led to the other, and I decided to stand up against the mandates by myself, together with the help of an organization County Citizens Defending Freedom, CCDF.
We launched a campaign. We have a website, GoofyVaccine.com, and we are getting the word out. And I wrote an op-ed explaining all the reasons that these mandates don’t make any sense. And all the high hospitalization and death rates are based on the fact that they’re suppressing early treatments and the treatments that they are given in the hospitals are literal killing people. And we have set up a rally tomorrow here in Orlando and simultaneously in Anaheim, California, for cast members and all freedom-loving people and people who believe in freedom of choice.
CLAY: Nick, do you hear a lot of people who are Disney cast members who are mandated to have the vaccine having the same kind of concerns as you? In other words, is this something that people are responding to?
CALLER: Well, in the beginning, it was just nobody… People started one by one. I’m a leader in Disney. I’ve defended a lot of people in other areas as a shop steward. And one by one people started confiding in me saying that they thought they were the only ones here and then they discovered I felt that way.
And little by little, once I’ve gone forward, and we’ve been doing a lot of national press and conservative radio, I’m getting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails coming in saying the same thing. “We’re isolated. We’re scared. We don’t even know who to talk to. We don’t even know if anybody feels like us.”
CLAY: Thank you for the call, and I’m sorry to cut you off ’cause we’re finishing the show. But I will say this. Joe Biden keeps hammering home “the majority of people agreed with when it comes to vaccine requirements.” What I would tell all of you out there is we gotta stop worrying about whether the majority agrees and start worrying about whether the minority is right. We are right.
BUCK: This is like Einstein. “It doesn’t matter how many people disagree with me; it only takes one to prove me wrong,” and that’s what we have to remember in all this. It’s supposed to be about the proof, the science, the data. But you’ll notice, they’re a little light on that these days.
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