Normally Podcast: Government Shutdown Fallout, Obamacare’s Failures, Trump’
By The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
October 2, 2025
Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the latest government shutdown and why many Americans seem unfazed by it. They examine the shortcomings of Obamacare, the hidden costs of government subsidies, and how these policies continue to shape healthcare. The discussion then turns global, with a look at Donald Trump’s 20-point Middle East peace plan and the obstacles posed by Hamas. Rounding out the conversation, they explore the debate over cousin marriage in the UK, what it reveals about cultural change, and the broader social implications. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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