Normally Podcast: Susie Wiles, JD Vance, and Media Meltdowns
By The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
December 18, 2025
In this episode of Normally, hosts Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz explore the growing divide between online outrage and real-world community. They break down the political fallout from a recent Vanity Fair interview with Susie Wiles, analyze JD Vance’s sharp responses to media criticism about the article, and discuss the broader implications of the Mar-a-Lago raid. The episode also touches on how political narratives are shaped by elite media versus everyday experience. To close things out, Mary Katharine and Karol take a lighter turn, examining the viral “6-7” trend among kids and why fostering in-person, communal activities still matters more than ever.
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