February 2, 2023 • 43 mins
Today on Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys wonder what’s next for Tom Brady how he’ll do in broadcasting. The guys address the social media craze accusing the NFL of being scripted thanks to a joke by Arian Foster and NASCAR Champion Kevin Harvick joins the guys to preview the Busch Lite Clash at the Coliseum and his final year driving.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Area, Brady, Quinn and Jonas knocks
on radio. Well, good morning morning. Yeah you don't you
know we didn't acknowledge yesterday when Tom Brady retired. It
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was actually a big time story that broke while we
were on the air. How about that. We've been bitching
and moaning about that. We did get breaking news, probably
the biggest retirement in the history of the game, and
we got it and it was like the most casual
of of retirements. Sitting on the beach. Was he on
the beach though? I think so? Or was he in
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front of the beach? I heard? I think I heard
his private jet in the background landing can take him
somewhere else? Does he have his own private property? You
think he's got his own private jet? Of course? I
mean either he has his own or he's a part
of like a fractional or a group or something gets
whenever you want, um that did that look like a
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Florida beach? Brady did that? Every Yeah, that wasch Ocean
City or something. I forget what they said that was.
It's it's so it's over there on that side of it,
are you guys. So there was a report that came
out from Brady's buddy Jeff Darlington that said that it
was either Tampa Bay or retirement, that he wasn't really
considering any other teams. Are you surprised by that? No,
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I think what he understands the undertaking and everything that
goes into changing teams. Yeah, I know people on the
outside of like a professional athletes still figure it out
to get the new team. You know, I saw still football.
It's it's not it's really hard to then be able
to have the relationship that you need to have with
your teammates, your coaches, build that bond, build that trust,
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help them understand the process. Like I know they won
the Super Bowl in his first year there down in Tampa.
But if you're a call that was through that COVID
here right, and he was practicing illegally out in parks right,
like like the parks that weren't supposed to be used
by crew. He said, like remember he got kicked out,
like literally like he was. It's just it takes in
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trouble because he showed up to Byron left which house
and someone's like, you can't have more than one person
in a home at to say something like that. The
best part of that story is he he got caught
with that because he went to the wrong house and
lives like down the street, two doors. But it goes
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to show you like this it's a long and doing
hard process. The guy has done it for twenty three years,
and to go somewhere else and do it again, I
just I think he looked at it and said, like,
I think I'm good. You know, I've given this game everything.
I've gotten out of it a lot, but I've also
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lost some things and I've I've got to move on
with my life. Uh. You know, when when you look
at where where this all is with Tom Brady, it
there's no there's no reason to try to be super
philosophical about it. There's no reason to try to be
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you know, controversial or any other any other types of
approaches because he's just at that age and and at
some point it's like you gotta be prepared to let
go when when it happens. I mean, people still haven't
let go of Elvis or Tupac. You know, for some
strange reason, they're gonna pop up one day. Yeah, they're
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they're they're out of here, like they retired for real?
About that exactly there? I mean, people are still waiting, like,
do you do you realize for the Super Bowl? When
when Dre did the halftime show, which I believe was
last year, do you realize that people were actually thinking
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that that was gonna be tupac um coming out party,
like he was actually going to be a part of
the doctor Dre deal. And and then it was like, Okay,
well they're going to hologram them, but he's still here.
Like the point I'm making, without getting too far off
in the pocket or or into Elvis, is that they gone, like,
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let him go. There doesn't have to be any conspiracies,
There doesn't have to be any type of tinfoil hat
theories going on. Let it go. And and for what
it's worth, whether he was going to return back to
Tampa or retire it, it's just shouldn't come as a
surprise whatever his decision is going to be, because he's
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at that age. And and so to me, I thought
it was pretty interesting that he retired in such a
casual manner. I actually really liked it. It kinda is
it's almost fitting that that someone of his status and
stature and of accomplishments and body of work would actually
go out the same exact way he came in. And
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I thought that that was really cool. Jonas, Yeah, you
know it was. It was an awesome, awesome send off
for Tom Brady. And that's a wrap, And I just wonder,
what the hell's next? I mean, are we doing Fox?
Does he jump right into Fox? Does he jump right
into the super Bowl? Coming up in Arizona? Just making
a three man seven and a half million is what
he's gonna pit a year for that? Did you see
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his face? It's one of them like it's funny. It's like, Okay,
if I could go back and do it, Although my
son does have a very beautiful face, I would say, man,
if you name your kid, if if Brady is in
their name, someway, somehow they're gonna have a dope facial
struct a great point. Yeah, it's like a name that's
synonymous with There's a lot of people who don't think
that's on the l natural if you know what I mean,
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I don't care. What do you mean? I don't care? Wait,
I think you think he got all of it. I'm
not saying you okay, don't be putting this on me.
Just you've heard I got a lot of I got
a lot of intel with out of Boston. Alright, that's
a hell of that's a where is he give me
his number? I'm gonna go play him a visit. Yeah,
done a great job. I mean, if he can contour
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a face like that, I mean, I know he already
had the chin. We knew, Johnson. Look at that face, Johnson.
He loves it. He loves that jawline. So you you
can actually go buy a butt chin. You can buy
a dimple chin if you want. But you can buy
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a dimple chin. Can you really? Absolutely? Are those more
expensive than high cheap bones? I don't know. I mean,
my I imagine this all right. The plastic surges walks out,
he takes a chisel and he just hammers away your
chin until he feels like that's enough. That should concave in.
Like there you go. That skin is gonna jump right
on in there, just like a crack sort. Yeah. He
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looks great though, and he's gonna be Now he goes
to to the Fox set and he's going to be
part of the potentially the broadcast. And you sent him
down there to do on field reporting. If you're paying
him thirty seven and a half million dollars a year,
you gotta get your money. He's not getting paid that yet.
All right, Calm down, he's gonna he's gonna go to
probably the I mean, look, shot Payne just took a job.
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He gone. Now, now you'd want to maybe have him
come and say, hey, do you want to start and
kind of you know, get you know, get involved a
little bit during this Super Bowl, maybe a show for
a couple of segments and leave it with that. Remember
when he was talking yesterday about the problem with officiating,
Now that you listen to this, it was very a
little I was just gonna sit down and listen to
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it again. Doesn't it sound like somebody who's in a
booth trying to break down a questionable call? You know,
the rest got a tough job. What are they going
to get every call? Right? I mean, there is anyone
a hundred percent in their job, and it's a hard
job to do. They're making decisions in a sense. You know,
in the middle second, there was three terms they used.
Um it was clear, it was obvious, and it was prolonged,
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you know, And I think that in the end of
the day. That would be my barometer for throwing flags
if it meets those criteria penalty holding, defensive, defensive illegal contact,
offensive passion experience. You know, it could be clear, but
it could be quick, and it doesn't really affect to
play that much. Yeah, that's the guys ready, ready to
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be He's ready. He's also played twenty three years. I mean, look,
when when the older you get in the league, the
more you start paying attention to a lot of the
conversations around the union, a lot of the stuff that's
happening with the rules committing the league, and you start
being a guy who asked more questions, right, like maybe
even questions the younger guys aren't thinking about and you're
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asking for them like they're not at your position, but
you're saying, okay, hold on for a second, go back
over that. What's the point of emphasis here in regards
to defensive past interference and what are you gonna call
versus not call? You know, demonstrate for me the difference
between the two and and what your crews looking for.
You know that there's I think that I just think
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the older you get them more you try to be
a you know, still be a student of the game
and still try to make sure you fully understand how
this whole thing works. Like I remember a coaching staff
talking to us about what's each officials responsibility. There'll be
times when some of these officials will get frustrated and
throw a flag on a coach or a player, and
it's because these guys don't know that that's not their job,
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that's not what they're looking at. They're complaining to the
wrong guy, and then that guy's getting ticked obvious, like
these guys are pros, didn't even know what the hell
they're doing. You know, that's that's the line judge. He's
responsible for what happens in the line of scrimmage. You
know that that's the nearest back judge. He's gonna be
watching that ice so wide receiver and that defensive bag
and whether or not there's any pass interference. Like there
ends up being this kind of thought to know what
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their job is and know who you need to talk
to if things aren't going the way you think they
should be. You know, if you think there should be
a flag or there shouldn't be. But I just I
think that comes with you know, getting older. I'll be
really curious to see how he is as a broadcaster,
a really more game analyst, because that's a job that
requires so much quick thinking and wit and entertainment, and
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it's hard. And I think the hardest thing for him
is he's the greatest all of all time. It's something,
the greatest of all time. The bar for him will
be set so high it's almost impossible to be able
to equate. You know, Joe Montana went to broadcasting, didn't
work out so well. You know, there's other greats and
Hall of famers that have gone in Emman Smith didn't
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work out quite as well. It's and that's what I'm
saying is it's hard. Man. People think that once that
red light goes on, the player they saw is gonna
be able to communicate everything that he saw did and
is seeing as a player. That is not how it works.
And one of the most interesting things about football is
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it's grown so much that you have so many different
nations of people playing it now. My biggest my biggest
challenge was a names like. It wasn't breaking down the plays,
it wasn't being quick and witty with with what was
taking place. It was just saying names, which I mean
it is practice, and and it's also getting you know,
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comfortable with being able to say in the moment because
as you know, like there's some Polynesian names, there's sometimes
some africanames that become really really difficult if you've never
done it before, or even just in the moment, you've
practiced it twenty times, but now at this time, it's
real and you've got to do it quick. That's the key.
I was up in my room paranoia, like I'm calling
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the game with Gus, like I am not trying to
mess up. So I'm up in the room and every
single name, I phonetically broke it down to where I
could say it and look at it quickly and be
able to say it right. And still in the game,
I still messed up. Uh two guys names um and
and it was it was, you know, I was mortified
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that I messed them up, but it was almost like
I had to allow for Gus to correct it and
and stay with my point, like even then, like trying
to make sure you could try to clean that up,
you know. But I would have just blamed the producer
on the air, sorry about that. I got bad info.
There's a lot that goes into it. But I'll say
this about about Tom Brady. How much do you think
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he's going to command just to come in and tell
your company that this is the way you're supposed to
build culture or this is the way success happens. Like
can you imagine what his speaker number is going to be.
He'll be able to make a lot and whatever he
wants to do initially, Then it comes down to how
good you are. Like anyone will pay you a lot
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for doing something once, but if you come back around,
it's not better the next time when we're entertaining. The
next time doesn't have a hook. You can't be great
at that, right, Like it's kind of like after your
first Super Bowl, Like they had to continue to grow, adapting,
adjust He he wasn't the same quarterback at the end
as he was at the beginning of his career. You know.
I sat down with some you know, media pundits, and
as you said, look at the first you know, first
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a couple of Super Bowls he won, he was a
game manager, that was their opinion. I looked at him.
I was like, well, first off, there's no game managers.
Like people like to say that because they either are
out of touch with the game, or they don't understand
what's being asked of them. There's times when, yeah, they
don't throw the football fifty times a game and have
to go out and win it because that's not the
strategy they need to utilize. You know, the beginning of
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Tom Brady's career, you know, he had an offensive coordinator
that I got to play for, and we talked a
lot about those Super Bowls and what the game plan was.
You know, screens, play action, uh, you know, some dropback
if you had two or two minutes to change up
the tempo and all that. But you know, just different
sorts of plays that fit the philosophy of what Charlie
Weiss wanted of what you know, Tom Brady could do
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at that time with their offense could do at that time.
There's so much more that goes into it. Um. You know,
a few years later, I believe he led the league
in touchdown passes with like fifty three years of the
starting or whatever it was, or six years into it.
So it's it's I just think it's it's it's gonna
be a really interesting transition to watch because we've never,
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at least in my lifetime, we I've never seen this before.
Like the greats that I put up there are the
Michael Jordan's, Tom Brady, um, whoever else you want to
put up there in golf, you know, I'd say probably Tiger,
but but really Jack is is right now the one
who's who's the greatest of all time at least as
far as accomplishments. Um, But he's not the one. He come.
He pops on every once in a while, especially when
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the memorial tournaments going on, but he's not. So I mean,
you go through every sport, you typically don't find the
guy that you look at and say he was the
greatest of all time. Now he's on TV talking about it,
and it's just they don't do that. And so in
part it's because I don't know that their skill set
will be able to match or equate to that, but
also because I don't know if they want to, especially
for Tom Brady six, Like does he want to still
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be beholden to an NFL schedule where every week he's traveling.
It's not like when you played for Tampa or or
New England where half the year you're staying in your hometown,
you know, and your your travel on the other half
like that. It's a big difference in stress your on
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All right, I'm gonna quit probably if every morning I'm
gonna quit. Man, that song sucks you having to hear
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that every single morning? That'd be a rough go. Hey.
Speaking of rough goes, what are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
going to do a quarterback? Now it's Kyle Trash going
to be the guy that that's just gonna be what
they roll out that What do we really care about
what their what their secession plan is to Tom Brady, Well,
of course, I mean because that's the best, that's one
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of the best divisions in football, that NFC South, and
we need to break down who's gonna win that division
nine year for the Tampa Bay Box. I'm more I'm
more curious since it whether or not LaVar thanks the
NFL is scripted. Uh, It's definitely scripted. That's that's why
it gets done at the same that. You know, that's
why you can plan the next game to start win
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it starts, because otherwise it wasn't scripted. It may be
super longer or it may be super shorter. You know,
could happen either way. Yeah, you know, you could unpackaged
it and and unwrap it and be surprised at what
it is that you see. You know, it could be
like tremendously short, right, or it could be tremendously long.
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If you guys found now that there was a major
cheating scandal in the NFL and and a lot of
it was seriously did But I don't know that it's cheating.
But I don't think that you you place it in
the realm of me. I'll put it this way. I
wish it was scripted. Then I think I would have
been able to cope with the lack of a career
that I was able to have, you know, as opposed
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to I'm just saying if it if it was scripted,
I at least be like, Okay, so this is what
you guys have for me. All right, great, well, hopefully
I can figure something out afterwards. Then, but let's just
play this role for the next seven eight years. See,
the NFL is so powerful and so successful that even
if they were to tell me everything you've watched for
the past thirty plus years was all on a script
I would have said, cool, because you watched w W
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E like, that's why, because you watch pro wrestling, which
is also a scripted quote unquote scripted. That's real away
from this is the least surprising thing the way. The
only and I lost this weekend because I was on
fire when it came to the NFL. I bet on
the Royal Rumble and I lost, so passed. But although
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I don't think it should count because the guy who
I bet on actually didn't partake in the Royal rumble match.
Why uh, for whatever reason, they didn't put him minute.
I thought he was going to be a surprise entrance
and he and he wasn't, and I lost that. It's like, hey,
who'd you bet to win the Super Bowl? The Wizards? Okay,
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not well and I still lost, So I don't think
it should account it, but yeah I lost. I'm not
trying to hammer down on you, But are you the
worst gambler? Lie? Yes? Who doesn't Who doesn't know that?
By this point of course facts you can't somebody out
there he bet on a guy that wasn't participate. There's
got to be someone that actually does worse. I'm just
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being honest. He has to lay down so much. Yeah,
because I just want to I want to feel good,
like I need I need something. So it's you know,
it's like going down to a lower division. It's like
you can't make it, you know, at the college level,
and you go play Pop Warner because you just want
to light somebody up and feel like you're actually a
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real player. That's what I do. I pick these these
bets that have no shot of losing, and I bet
on those to get you know, get some feel good
and going to my body, get some good taste in
my mouth. That's all, you know what I mean? You know,
I don't know, I don't know what you mean. Tell us,
just want a good taste in your mouth. I pick
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a bet that is a sure thing, an absolute no
doubt about it. A minus four thousand or something like
that numbers to it. I throw like fifteen sixteen bucks
on it. The return on that's like twenty two cents.
But it's a win, all right. That's all I look at.
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And then after out to go lose my next four
or five straight, which, by the way, I know you're wondering.
I really like Kansas City in the Super Bowl, just
saying that right now, you know, I do. However, like
with all of the rising conversations surrounding officials, I mean,
you do realize that officials have to make sure that
the games begin and end at the proper time. And
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I mean I almost feel like that's you know, if
you didn't have certain calls, the game might end too soon.
If you had certain calls, the game ended too late.
So it's almost like they have to like sometimes you
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and listen, I don't in terms of like putting time
back on the clock. Like, is anyone really paying that
close of attention to when it's like, okay, yep, put
twenty seconds back on the clock, put it at twelve
minutes in three seconds and the play clock at nine
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seconds and start on my my account, Like, I don't
think that's what's in question. I think what's in question
is is the scripted in the sense of the outcome
has already determined. So not like that is is what
it is. But but have you ever I mean, you're
a pretty meticulous dude. Are you paying that close attention
to resetting the clock and how much time should go
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back on the clock and where the play clock is
on every single play? Um as a quarterback as far
as the yes, as as as as a quarterback as
part of the play clock. Yes, because that's part of
like my protocol, Like my job was dependent upon ensuring
that we get the snap off or otherwise we get
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a penalty. So of course I'm a paying attention to that.
Now the game clock And oh is that guy you
know inbounds that bounds did they roll it that they're not? Yeah,
Like there's obviously instances where they might roll off a
few extra seconds here or not something back like to me,
that's I don't. I don't question the outcome, like I
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don't quite the outcome is the outcome? Like that would
that would totally disgrace everything that we've ever done to
try to be great. If if the outcomes were determined,
and then now you got to ask yourself, how do
you judge the greats of the greats if the outcomes
have already been predetermined? Like how do you say it's
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predetermined that Barry Sanders is about to destroy people's ankles
and knees in the game. How do you how do
you justify Tom Brady's career if outcomes are already predetermined?
I don't. I don't buy that at all at all.
I've never been in a meeting where they said, you know,
make sure you pull up on if if you have
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this much of a lead. Isn't how that doesn't really
apply to players, Like teams can do what they want
for players that are trying for the job. You can't
tank a game with players. You just can't. The way
you tank is by really not playing your best guy.
That's why the scripted that's, yeah, that's your attempt. I don't.
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I don't buy scripted as in it's scripted where you
know who's going to win or you know who's going
to lose. But what I will say is is it
scripted in terms of how the game is regulated and
how it moves? Um? Yes, I mean it could. Even
in my humble estimation, if I were a real, true
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conspiracy theorist, I would even go as far as to
say that referees will will make calls that actually swing
a game. It will swing a game, or it'll make
the game closer, or this team, Like I, I honestly
believe that Kansas City was gonna lose that game. They
were gonna lose that game outside of the the calls,
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which the calls are, those were somewhere questionable at best,
but somewhere legit. Like there's no way you can get
around the fact that if you don't make that call
on Patrick Mahomes getting pushed, there's something wrong. So to
say there was something wrong to make the call, like
you know, we hear some of our pundits come out
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and say that call shouldn't have been made. That's preposterous.
It's it's ridiculous to say it was a penalty, all right,
but that that that past interference. It's questionable. There were
questionable calls in that game that said to me, like, man,
like what are they doing? Like even the mess up
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on the clock, Like yeah, you could show the referee
was running in this, that and the other, but why
was this one referee the one and this that. I
don't know all the terminology and all the justification, but
to me, you ran a complete play. You ran a
complete play and it was a failure of a play
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and you gave them another down. I do think the NFL, though,
has one eye on the business of football at all times,
because you have a business in The most glaring example
of that was the well, after looking at this and
reevaluating everything, we're gonna go ahead and suspend to Shawn
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Watson for eleven games, and wouldn't you know, at the
first game he can come back against his former team.
I mean, this is just of all the coincidences in
the world. So I think there is some of that,
but it's a big difference between that and scripted and
and people out there saying it's rigged, it's scripted. Come on, man,
I think I think there are a lot of aspects
that are are tremendously influenced and guided is what I'll say,
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and I'll leave it at that. Well, I'll put it
this way. I know, like you have to understand how
the seal works, how the business works. Right. If the
majority of your money helps your league survive is coming
from the TV networks, what do you think they want?
They want the biggest possible markets to have the biggest
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possible ratings so that they can then use that to
sell to advertisers and say, look, how many people watch
the properties that we have that we own that we
are are buying from the NFL or leasing from the NFL. Right,
So that way they can generate as much money from
those live games, from those advertisements, and they can pay
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as much money as the NFL is looking forward to
get so their league continues to stay healthy and on
top of all professional sports. So it's not that far
fetched to sit there and and and think that, you know,
the TV network wanting to have larger market teams in
the Super Bowl isn't probably what the NFL would like
to have as well, because they know that's good for
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their business. If it's good for the TV networks, that's
good for their business, that's good for the NFL as well,
like want to connect those dots. I just I think
it's I mean, look, I don't think any of this
stuff is scripted, you know from my experience going through it.
That's just that's just not how this all works, you know.
And I know this is getting a lot of runing
from the Aryan Foster interview, which a lot of people
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now are just taking seriously. Right then it's become like
a social media thing and all that. But trust me,
like I said, I wish I wish someone would have
would have let me know what my script was so
that way I could have at least coped with what
the reality was gonna be as opposed to what I
dreamed of. It was working towards my entire career in life.
So on hey, by the way, just on a off note,
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in terms of the matchups and the storylines and scripting,
it was kind of funny stumbled upon the fact that
you're going to have brothers for the first time playing
against each other in the Super Bowl. So I was
asked this question. Yeah, I was asked this question. Get it.
It was such a play on work. But I'm really
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gonna have brothers. What's more likely to happen again in
your mind because you have two things that play like.
People have called it the Andy Reid super Bowl because
he's facing a former team that he coached, or two
brothers facing off the super Bowl. I think the two
brothers is way more rare. I think that is a
way better storyline, is the brothers super Bowl? If you
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know what I mean. It's not the person. It looks
like there's more of a brother and a brother. But
but to make just to keep it one way or
the other. If we want to go hard, are we
could go hard? Are we could go a either way?
It's it's it's the brothers or the brother uh super Bowl? Yeah,
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because it could be. I call my my my biological
siblings brothers. Those are my brothers. Like with the Nate,
I don't call him my brothers with the hard Are,
I just don't. But that's what they are technically. So
I'm just saying it's the brothers, you know, super Bowl,
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the brothers. I call of our brother I call you brother,
I call Brady brother. I call both of y'all brothers
because y'all my brothers. Yeah you did what I'm saying
from another mother's I hear you, but you got. But
let's talk about who's going to take over for the
(29:30):
Tampa Bay Parks one of the brothers. Let's let's talk
about Kyle Trash because the only quarterback under contrast Trash Trash.
Why would you want to talk about that? Nobody cares about.
Let's talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Moving on, moving,
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Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. There's a
big event coming up this weekend, A little little Clash
at the Colosseum. Pretty fire pant little clash at the Colosseum.
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The l a coliseum. I mean a real clash, yeah,
like tire clashing, you know, cars clashing better believe it.
You know, one of those deal super competitive, very cramped
in there by the way, super cramped. Yeah, so we're
gonna see cramped as you may think though, Hey, then
it's a little more room me there. I mean, definitely custom.
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Wonder what top speed. By the way, the clash of
the coliseum is, well on the spaedometer, it's as fast
yeah as hail, Yeah, as fast the super fast and
then as fast as hail. Well. One guy who's gone
fast as hell for a long time in the world
of NASCAR is Kevin Harvick, NASCAR Cup Series Champion. He's
(31:18):
the driver of the number four Bush light Ford Mustang
for Stewart Hoss Racing. Kevin, thanks so much for the time, man,
Thanks for waking up early with us. Here it's two
pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,
good morning, guys. Thank you for having me. It's uh,
it's it's nice to be able to get up and
talk to some racing in the morning. So I have
two kids, so I'm up and ready to go. All right.
(31:41):
Good deal, good deal. Kevin, I gotta start off by
asking you a unique question to to this week's race.
Do you guys, you guys get dizzy when you're when
you're driving around and there, I feel like it's a
small track, right A you just doing his fast circles
round and a round around. Yeah, well, I think it's
I think it's like really any other sport. I think
as you get into a rhythm and and start doing
the things that you need to do, everything just slows down.
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As I sat in the simulator yesterday and and started
doing all of our setup work and preparation for the race,
I was, I was, I was a little bit behind
yesterday to to be to be honest with you, because
there's so much happening with the shifting and brakes and
small track and and everything going on that that it definitely,
uh took a few laps to get to the point
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of of slowing down and being able to do everything fluently.
Are you are you able to get to the type
of speeds that you are on the bigger tracks or
is it is it all the way adjusted to you
know how how large the track is. Yeah, so everything
will everything will be scaled to the to the racetrack
as far as geary um, the speed will will will
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obviously be down because of the size of the race track.
But with the with the with the different size racetrack,
it's it's just a different style of racing. And most
of us that that race in in the in the
top level of NASCAR racing all grew up on the
short tracks across the country, racing on on boll we
call bull rings, just really small racetrack quarter mile, three
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eight mile, half mile race tracks. As as we were
learning how to um to navigate the ropes of of nascars.
So this this really I think last year when when
we went to the l A call sum and looking
back at the preparation for the race last year and
the new car and everything that was going in, I
honestly laughed. I thought this would be the biggest joke
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that that we that we had on the schedule. And
then we got done with the race and ran the
whole year, and I looked back at last year's race
and how much fun everybody had and how unique it
was and how well the um you know, the cars
raced on on the racetrack, and and just the emotion
in the stadium is much different than what you have
at some of our bigger racetracks because everybody's right on
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top of you and and so you know, to be
able to hear the fans and when you're watching the
other races is um, you know, as much different than
those laces. He's Kevin Harvick, NASCAR Cup Series Champion, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on Twitter
at Kevin Harvick. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. So this is
your final season full time, correct, as far as running
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in NASCAR and doing the full time gig. And when
you look at your career, you're one of four drivers.
You've one Daytona, you won the Coca Cola six hundred,
you won the Brickyard, you won the Southern five hundred.
What's left? Like, what is your ideal outro look like
in your final full season driving for NASCAR? Well, unfortunate
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and I think you know a lot of the a
lot of the professional athletes don't get to choose when
they're done. And you know, I've been fortunate to be
able to have might have my choice of of saying, okay,
this is this is going to be my last year
and this is this is what we're going to do.
But as I've gone through this process over over the
last year and a half of planning the last year,
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that the one thing that I really realized is just
how many how many people you've you've affected and worked
with and and been a part of through the years,
and and how important it is to do this last
year right and and and you know, enjoy it um
and be able to try to do the things that
I've done for the for the last twenty two years
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on on the Cup Series level, and that's to be
competitive and and be able to to race in the
front of the field and have a chance to win
races and and go out like I started. So you know,
it's it's all. It's been a lot of planning. There's
been a lot of things that have gone into the
year as far as um, you know, just different paint
schemes and helmets and and trying to make sure that
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you don't forget anybody who's helped you to this particular
point of my career. Um. But you know, the last
year is important and I look at it as really,
you know, your first year and whatever you're doing as
to to to make an impact and make an impression
and try to be as professional as possible and in
all those situations that we've created and who we represent,
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and you know, pay pay honor to the to the
people who helped me get to this point. So there's
a lot of there's a lot of touch points that
that need to be um involved in, that are involved
in in the last year to be able to do
this the right way. And we've tried to plan it
that way and be able to go to the racetracks
and in race in front of the fans one more
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time and and talk about, you know, something that's great
that happened in that particular market, and you know, we've
been fortunate to have a lot of success and and
that's really the goal of the last year. Kevin. I
think i'd be curious just for people to hear your
process about the course of a week. You know, you mentioned, Hey,
I was in the simulator and I'm trying to kind
of get my bearings down for this particular track because
it's unique. Take us through, like what exactly that looks like,
(36:43):
like what I'm imagining that simulator, Like are you sitting
in something, is it on a computer desk somewhere like
take us through what your process looks like to prepare
for a race. Yeah, so you know, the one thing
about NASCAR racings is a lot of people underestimate the
magnitude of the engine nearing and UH simulation and things
that go into our sport. But Forward Performance Center has
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three UM full size simulators. So basically what that means
is that the center section of the car basically is
is exact size. It has my seat, my steering wheel,
all my gauges, and it has UM. I guess it's
almost I guess, well, the new one has Our new
simulator has three sixty degree screen with projectors and everything
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from from each racetrack, so when when you sit in
the car, it has full movement and UM, you know
the racetrack you can go day, night, rain, UH, sun, dark,
lights on, lights off, All the signs are on the wall,
the grand stands are there, so you you have those
references and things that you need at the actual racetrack
that are all simulated and simulator and and then we
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run through UH set up changes and things like that
based on you know, based on path knowledge and and
things that they that they've built into the into the system,
so you know, it's it's definitely not sitting at your
desktop or an I racing simulator or anything like that anymore.
It's there their life sized vehicles with all your stuff
and and you know, it's it's really progressed over the
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last few years since practice has has gone away at
the racetrack. We get now we get twenty minutes of
practice and then you go straight to qualifying. So the
preparation all happens during the week and you can make
you know, you can make some minor adjustments at the
racetrack to the cars, but um, you know, Tuesday we
have our team meetings. Wednesday we're in the simulator. Usually
it's a you know, three day a week workout process.
(38:32):
And and you know, these these first four out of
six races are a logistical nightmare. We go to Los
Angeles and have a week off and then come back
to Daytona and then back to Los Angeles, Las Vegas
and Phoenix to to start the season. And all the
teams are basically located in North Carolina, so there's a
lot of logistical challenges that come with the first part
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of the season and in preparation during the week still
has to happen, So all the teams for the most
part fly privately and who's the races over. They all
fly back to North Carolina and prepp next week's car,
and you know, and during the during the you know,
the start of the season, when we're on the West coast,
of the teams will uh stay out here and there
to prep the cars that they have out on on
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the West coast. So there's a lot of moving pieces
and and uh, you know, each team has hundreds and
hundreds of people that work in their shop for the
most part, to to make it all go around. You know,
I'm a big race fan. I'll actually be there Friday morning.
I'll see you on Friday. This is var um. I
got so many questions I want to ask. I'll save
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something for when I see you. But one of one
of the things I want to throw out at you
right now, UM, rivalries, you know, we love them in sports. Um.
One that I really liked was was Bush and Johnson. Um.
Pretty you know, some would label it arch Nemesis. Do
you have someone that you kind of, you know, have
(39:59):
a love hate relationship with that you know out there
on the track. It's like I'm looking for him, he's
looking for me. Um there that we could see what
goes on and how it goes down and how it plays.
I mean, you seem soft spoken, but you know sometimes
the most soft spoken dudes are are kind of the
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you know, they are the dudes on on the track
and how they do things. You know, I know you
have a pretty pretty smooth race style. But is there
someone that you just you're out there on the on
the track and it's like yeah, like allright, like I
got you, like here, like here we go, who's the
biggest pain in the ass? Yeah, yeah, there you go
(40:40):
summarize it? Uh well, you know, I think I think
for for our side of the our side of the
sports world, I think for them. For us, it's, um
it's very different because you could you imagine if you
played the same team every week and and then you
you know, you're part six feet from them, your your
lock of rooms are together in the garage, we're part
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six feet apart. And so that the hardest thing to
new to do is navigate how far to take all
these things when you do have those run ins. Because
I've had I've had a lot through the years, and
I think that those rivalries have kind of come and
gone amongst different people, because it seems like each year,
you know, you have you have somebody somebody new and
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and you know, we've we've gone through the years and
we've we've had our fair share of of run ins
with with you know, different drivers, and it seems like
those things kind of carry on through the year. But
the most difficult thing to navigate is to know when
to let your guard down and say, Okay, that needs
to be over because now it's affecting the performance of
my team, and I'm having to answer questions in the
media about you know, us running into each other, and
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then my crew chiefs answer questions, and then it's starting
to distract from the conversation in the Tuesday meetings and
and sponsors are starting to call. So, you know, you
carry those things out as you see fit. You know,
we've we've carried some of them out for years. We've
carried some of them out for hours, we carried some
of them out for days. And I think as I've
gone through this, I have a I have a pretty
good relationship with with a lot of the guys in
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the garage, But you know, you have to be willing
to do whatever you have to do in in a
moment's notice to to win a race, and especially with
you know how competitive it's becomes so um, sometimes you
do what you have to do. You stuff with the
consequences after the race and whatever comes with that you
start to deal with and process and do the things
that you have to do to uh, either carry on
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a rivalry or um. You know, if you think that
that you have the upper hand in the situation, you
do with what you think is right as far as
being able to push somebody's buttons. So it just depends.
Sometimes you push all the buttons and you get them
all wound up and and cause many distractions as you can,
and sometimes you just let it go. So it depends
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on the magnitude of the situation for me personally. Get
him on Twitter at Kevin Harvick. He's Kevin Harvick, NASCAR
Cups Series Champion driver of the number four bush Light
Ford Mustang for Stewart Hopps Racing, his final go his
final season as a full time driver. And you can
check out the bush Light Clash at the Colosseum this Sunday,
(43:11):
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We appreciate it, man, thanks again for waking up early
for us here and we're gonna be watching on Sunday
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s R to listen live.
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Area, Brady, Quinn and Jonas knocks
on radio. Well, good morning morning. Yeah you don't you
know we didn't acknowledge yesterday when Tom Brady retired. It
(00:21):
was actually a big time story that broke while we
were on the air. How about that. We've been bitching
and moaning about that. We did get breaking news, probably
the biggest retirement in the history of the game, and
we got it and it was like the most casual
of of retirements. Sitting on the beach. Was he on
the beach though? I think so? Or was he in
(00:42):
front of the beach? I heard? I think I heard
his private jet in the background landing can take him
somewhere else? Does he have his own private property? You
think he's got his own private jet? Of course? I
mean either he has his own or he's a part
of like a fractional or a group or something gets
whenever you want, um that did that look like a
(01:03):
Florida beach? Brady did that? Every Yeah, that wasch Ocean
City or something. I forget what they said that was.
It's it's so it's over there on that side of it,
are you guys. So there was a report that came
out from Brady's buddy Jeff Darlington that said that it
was either Tampa Bay or retirement, that he wasn't really
considering any other teams. Are you surprised by that? No,
(01:24):
I think what he understands the undertaking and everything that
goes into changing teams. Yeah, I know people on the
outside of like a professional athletes still figure it out
to get the new team. You know, I saw still football.
It's it's not it's really hard to then be able
to have the relationship that you need to have with
your teammates, your coaches, build that bond, build that trust,
(01:46):
help them understand the process. Like I know they won
the Super Bowl in his first year there down in Tampa.
But if you're a call that was through that COVID
here right, and he was practicing illegally out in parks right,
like like the parks that weren't supposed to be used
by crew. He said, like remember he got kicked out,
like literally like he was. It's just it takes in
(02:07):
trouble because he showed up to Byron left which house
and someone's like, you can't have more than one person
in a home at to say something like that. The
best part of that story is he he got caught
with that because he went to the wrong house and
lives like down the street, two doors. But it goes
(02:30):
to show you like this it's a long and doing
hard process. The guy has done it for twenty three years,
and to go somewhere else and do it again, I
just I think he looked at it and said, like,
I think I'm good. You know, I've given this game everything.
I've gotten out of it a lot, but I've also
(02:50):
lost some things and I've I've got to move on
with my life. Uh. You know, when when you look
at where where this all is with Tom Brady, it
there's no there's no reason to try to be super
philosophical about it. There's no reason to try to be
(03:11):
you know, controversial or any other any other types of
approaches because he's just at that age and and at
some point it's like you gotta be prepared to let
go when when it happens. I mean, people still haven't
let go of Elvis or Tupac. You know, for some
strange reason, they're gonna pop up one day. Yeah, they're
(03:37):
they're they're out of here, like they retired for real?
About that exactly there? I mean, people are still waiting, like,
do you do you realize for the Super Bowl? When
when Dre did the halftime show, which I believe was
last year, do you realize that people were actually thinking
(03:58):
that that was gonna be tupac um coming out party,
like he was actually going to be a part of
the doctor Dre deal. And and then it was like, Okay,
well they're going to hologram them, but he's still here.
Like the point I'm making, without getting too far off
in the pocket or or into Elvis, is that they gone, like,
(04:21):
let him go. There doesn't have to be any conspiracies,
There doesn't have to be any type of tinfoil hat
theories going on. Let it go. And and for what
it's worth, whether he was going to return back to
Tampa or retire it, it's just shouldn't come as a
surprise whatever his decision is going to be, because he's
(04:42):
at that age. And and so to me, I thought
it was pretty interesting that he retired in such a
casual manner. I actually really liked it. It kinda is
it's almost fitting that that someone of his status and
stature and of accomplishments and body of work would actually
go out the same exact way he came in. And
(05:04):
I thought that that was really cool. Jonas, Yeah, you
know it was. It was an awesome, awesome send off
for Tom Brady. And that's a wrap, And I just wonder,
what the hell's next? I mean, are we doing Fox?
Does he jump right into Fox? Does he jump right
into the super Bowl? Coming up in Arizona? Just making
a three man seven and a half million is what
he's gonna pit a year for that? Did you see
(05:25):
his face? It's one of them like it's funny. It's like, Okay,
if I could go back and do it, Although my
son does have a very beautiful face, I would say, man,
if you name your kid, if if Brady is in
their name, someway, somehow they're gonna have a dope facial
struct a great point. Yeah, it's like a name that's
synonymous with There's a lot of people who don't think
that's on the l natural if you know what I mean,
(05:47):
I don't care. What do you mean? I don't care? Wait,
I think you think he got all of it. I'm
not saying you okay, don't be putting this on me.
Just you've heard I got a lot of I got
a lot of intel with out of Boston. Alright, that's
a hell of that's a where is he give me
his number? I'm gonna go play him a visit. Yeah,
done a great job. I mean, if he can contour
(06:09):
a face like that, I mean, I know he already
had the chin. We knew, Johnson. Look at that face, Johnson.
He loves it. He loves that jawline. So you you
can actually go buy a butt chin. You can buy
a dimple chin if you want. But you can buy
(06:30):
a dimple chin. Can you really? Absolutely? Are those more
expensive than high cheap bones? I don't know. I mean,
my I imagine this all right. The plastic surges walks out,
he takes a chisel and he just hammers away your
chin until he feels like that's enough. That should concave in.
Like there you go. That skin is gonna jump right
on in there, just like a crack sort. Yeah. He
(06:57):
looks great though, and he's gonna be Now he goes
to to the Fox set and he's going to be
part of the potentially the broadcast. And you sent him
down there to do on field reporting. If you're paying
him thirty seven and a half million dollars a year,
you gotta get your money. He's not getting paid that yet.
All right, Calm down, he's gonna he's gonna go to
probably the I mean, look, shot Payne just took a job.
(07:17):
He gone. Now, now you'd want to maybe have him
come and say, hey, do you want to start and
kind of you know, get you know, get involved a
little bit during this Super Bowl, maybe a show for
a couple of segments and leave it with that. Remember
when he was talking yesterday about the problem with officiating,
Now that you listen to this, it was very a
little I was just gonna sit down and listen to
(07:37):
it again. Doesn't it sound like somebody who's in a
booth trying to break down a questionable call? You know,
the rest got a tough job. What are they going
to get every call? Right? I mean, there is anyone
a hundred percent in their job, and it's a hard
job to do. They're making decisions in a sense. You know,
in the middle second, there was three terms they used.
Um it was clear, it was obvious, and it was prolonged,
(07:59):
you know, And I think that in the end of
the day. That would be my barometer for throwing flags
if it meets those criteria penalty holding, defensive, defensive illegal contact,
offensive passion experience. You know, it could be clear, but
it could be quick, and it doesn't really affect to
play that much. Yeah, that's the guys ready, ready to
(08:19):
be He's ready. He's also played twenty three years. I mean, look,
when when the older you get in the league, the
more you start paying attention to a lot of the
conversations around the union, a lot of the stuff that's
happening with the rules committing the league, and you start
being a guy who asked more questions, right, like maybe
even questions the younger guys aren't thinking about and you're
(08:41):
asking for them like they're not at your position, but
you're saying, okay, hold on for a second, go back
over that. What's the point of emphasis here in regards
to defensive past interference and what are you gonna call
versus not call? You know, demonstrate for me the difference
between the two and and what your crews looking for.
You know that there's I think that I just think
(09:01):
the older you get them more you try to be
a you know, still be a student of the game
and still try to make sure you fully understand how
this whole thing works. Like I remember a coaching staff
talking to us about what's each officials responsibility. There'll be
times when some of these officials will get frustrated and
throw a flag on a coach or a player, and
it's because these guys don't know that that's not their job,
(09:23):
that's not what they're looking at. They're complaining to the
wrong guy, and then that guy's getting ticked obvious, like
these guys are pros, didn't even know what the hell
they're doing. You know, that's that's the line judge. He's
responsible for what happens in the line of scrimmage. You
know that that's the nearest back judge. He's gonna be
watching that ice so wide receiver and that defensive bag
and whether or not there's any pass interference. Like there
ends up being this kind of thought to know what
(09:45):
their job is and know who you need to talk
to if things aren't going the way you think they
should be. You know, if you think there should be
a flag or there shouldn't be. But I just I
think that comes with you know, getting older. I'll be
really curious to see how he is as a broadcaster,
a really more game analyst, because that's a job that
requires so much quick thinking and wit and entertainment, and
(10:08):
it's hard. And I think the hardest thing for him
is he's the greatest all of all time. It's something,
the greatest of all time. The bar for him will
be set so high it's almost impossible to be able
to equate. You know, Joe Montana went to broadcasting, didn't
work out so well. You know, there's other greats and
Hall of famers that have gone in Emman Smith didn't
(10:29):
work out quite as well. It's and that's what I'm
saying is it's hard. Man. People think that once that
red light goes on, the player they saw is gonna
be able to communicate everything that he saw did and
is seeing as a player. That is not how it works.
And one of the most interesting things about football is
(10:50):
it's grown so much that you have so many different
nations of people playing it now. My biggest my biggest
challenge was a names like. It wasn't breaking down the plays,
it wasn't being quick and witty with with what was
taking place. It was just saying names, which I mean
it is practice, and and it's also getting you know,
(11:12):
comfortable with being able to say in the moment because
as you know, like there's some Polynesian names, there's sometimes
some africanames that become really really difficult if you've never
done it before, or even just in the moment, you've
practiced it twenty times, but now at this time, it's
real and you've got to do it quick. That's the key.
I was up in my room paranoia, like I'm calling
(11:33):
the game with Gus, like I am not trying to
mess up. So I'm up in the room and every
single name, I phonetically broke it down to where I
could say it and look at it quickly and be
able to say it right. And still in the game,
I still messed up. Uh two guys names um and
and it was it was, you know, I was mortified
(11:55):
that I messed them up, but it was almost like
I had to allow for Gus to correct it and
and stay with my point, like even then, like trying
to make sure you could try to clean that up,
you know. But I would have just blamed the producer
on the air, sorry about that. I got bad info.
There's a lot that goes into it. But I'll say
this about about Tom Brady. How much do you think
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he's going to command just to come in and tell
your company that this is the way you're supposed to
build culture or this is the way success happens. Like
can you imagine what his speaker number is going to be.
He'll be able to make a lot and whatever he
wants to do initially, Then it comes down to how
good you are. Like anyone will pay you a lot
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for doing something once, but if you come back around,
it's not better the next time when we're entertaining. The
next time doesn't have a hook. You can't be great
at that, right, Like it's kind of like after your
first Super Bowl, Like they had to continue to grow, adapting,
adjust He he wasn't the same quarterback at the end
as he was at the beginning of his career. You know.
I sat down with some you know, media pundits, and
as you said, look at the first you know, first
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a couple of Super Bowls he won, he was a
game manager, that was their opinion. I looked at him.
I was like, well, first off, there's no game managers.
Like people like to say that because they either are
out of touch with the game, or they don't understand
what's being asked of them. There's times when, yeah, they
don't throw the football fifty times a game and have
to go out and win it because that's not the
strategy they need to utilize. You know, the beginning of
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Tom Brady's career, you know, he had an offensive coordinator
that I got to play for, and we talked a
lot about those Super Bowls and what the game plan was.
You know, screens, play action, uh, you know, some dropback
if you had two or two minutes to change up
the tempo and all that. But you know, just different
sorts of plays that fit the philosophy of what Charlie
Weiss wanted of what you know, Tom Brady could do
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at that time with their offense could do at that time.
There's so much more that goes into it. Um. You know,
a few years later, I believe he led the league
in touchdown passes with like fifty three years of the
starting or whatever it was, or six years into it.
So it's it's I just think it's it's it's gonna
be a really interesting transition to watch because we've never,
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at least in my lifetime, we I've never seen this before.
Like the greats that I put up there are the
Michael Jordan's, Tom Brady, um, whoever else you want to
put up there in golf, you know, I'd say probably Tiger,
but but really Jack is is right now the one
who's who's the greatest of all time at least as
far as accomplishments. Um, But he's not the one. He come.
He pops on every once in a while, especially when
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the memorial tournaments going on, but he's not. So I mean,
you go through every sport, you typically don't find the
guy that you look at and say he was the
greatest of all time. Now he's on TV talking about it,
and it's just they don't do that. And so in
part it's because I don't know that their skill set
will be able to match or equate to that, but
also because I don't know if they want to, especially
for Tom Brady six, Like does he want to still
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be beholden to an NFL schedule where every week he's traveling.
It's not like when you played for Tampa or or
New England where half the year you're staying in your hometown,
you know, and your your travel on the other half
like that. It's a big difference in stress your on
your lifestyle, on your family. Be sure to catch live
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six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. We were talking about
which which bangers we were going to come up with
our new intro songs, because we gotta come up with
some intro songs for the show. Do you have some
more of the beat. It's not like the lyrics are
like how successful the song was, but I've got one
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in my head. I just like those beats that like
you think about it exactly what song that is? That
was very very catchy. I think I'm gonna go with
My name is Jonas from Weezer. I feel like that one.
All right, I'm gonna quit probably if every morning I'm
gonna quit. Man, that song sucks you having to hear
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that every single morning? That'd be a rough go. Hey.
Speaking of rough goes, what are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
going to do a quarterback? Now it's Kyle Trash going
to be the guy that that's just gonna be what
they roll out that What do we really care about
what their what their secession plan is to Tom Brady, Well,
of course, I mean because that's the best, that's one
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of the best divisions in football, that NFC South, and
we need to break down who's gonna win that division
nine year for the Tampa Bay Box. I'm more I'm
more curious since it whether or not LaVar thanks the
NFL is scripted. Uh, It's definitely scripted. That's that's why
it gets done at the same that. You know, that's
why you can plan the next game to start win
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it starts, because otherwise it wasn't scripted. It may be
super longer or it may be super shorter. You know,
could happen either way. Yeah, you know, you could unpackaged
it and and unwrap it and be surprised at what
it is that you see. You know, it could be
like tremendously short, right, or it could be tremendously long.
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If you guys found now that there was a major
cheating scandal in the NFL and and a lot of
it was seriously did But I don't know that it's cheating.
But I don't think that you you place it in
the realm of me. I'll put it this way. I
wish it was scripted. Then I think I would have
been able to cope with the lack of a career
that I was able to have, you know, as opposed
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to I'm just saying if it if it was scripted,
I at least be like, Okay, so this is what
you guys have for me. All right, great, well, hopefully
I can figure something out afterwards. Then, but let's just
play this role for the next seven eight years. See,
the NFL is so powerful and so successful that even
if they were to tell me everything you've watched for
the past thirty plus years was all on a script
I would have said, cool, because you watched w W
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E like, that's why, because you watch pro wrestling, which
is also a scripted quote unquote scripted. That's real away
from this is the least surprising thing the way. The
only and I lost this weekend because I was on
fire when it came to the NFL. I bet on
the Royal Rumble and I lost, so passed. But although
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I don't think it should count because the guy who
I bet on actually didn't partake in the Royal rumble match.
Why uh, for whatever reason, they didn't put him minute.
I thought he was going to be a surprise entrance
and he and he wasn't, and I lost that. It's like, hey,
who'd you bet to win the Super Bowl? The Wizards? Okay,
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not well and I still lost, So I don't think
it should account it, but yeah I lost. I'm not
trying to hammer down on you, But are you the
worst gambler? Lie? Yes? Who doesn't Who doesn't know that?
By this point of course facts you can't somebody out
there he bet on a guy that wasn't participate. There's
got to be someone that actually does worse. I'm just
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being honest. He has to lay down so much. Yeah,
because I just want to I want to feel good,
like I need I need something. So it's you know,
it's like going down to a lower division. It's like
you can't make it, you know, at the college level,
and you go play Pop Warner because you just want
to light somebody up and feel like you're actually a
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real player. That's what I do. I pick these these
bets that have no shot of losing, and I bet
on those to get you know, get some feel good
and going to my body, get some good taste in
my mouth. That's all, you know what I mean? You know,
I don't know, I don't know what you mean. Tell us,
just want a good taste in your mouth. I pick
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a bet that is a sure thing, an absolute no
doubt about it. A minus four thousand or something like
that numbers to it. I throw like fifteen sixteen bucks
on it. The return on that's like twenty two cents.
But it's a win, all right. That's all I look at.
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And then after out to go lose my next four
or five straight, which, by the way, I know you're wondering.
I really like Kansas City in the Super Bowl, just
saying that right now, you know, I do. However, like
with all of the rising conversations surrounding officials, I mean,
you do realize that officials have to make sure that
the games begin and end at the proper time. And
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I mean I almost feel like that's you know, if
you didn't have certain calls, the game might end too soon.
If you had certain calls, the game ended too late.
So it's almost like they have to like sometimes you
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and listen, I don't in terms of like putting time
back on the clock. Like, is anyone really paying that
close of attention to when it's like, okay, yep, put
twenty seconds back on the clock, put it at twelve
minutes in three seconds and the play clock at nine
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seconds and start on my my account, Like, I don't
think that's what's in question. I think what's in question
is is the scripted in the sense of the outcome
has already determined. So not like that is is what
it is. But but have you ever I mean, you're
a pretty meticulous dude. Are you paying that close attention
to resetting the clock and how much time should go
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back on the clock and where the play clock is
on every single play? Um as a quarterback as far
as the yes, as as as as a quarterback as
part of the play clock. Yes, because that's part of
like my protocol, Like my job was dependent upon ensuring
that we get the snap off or otherwise we get
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a penalty. So of course I'm a paying attention to that.
Now the game clock And oh is that guy you
know inbounds that bounds did they roll it that they're not? Yeah,
Like there's obviously instances where they might roll off a
few extra seconds here or not something back like to me,
that's I don't. I don't question the outcome, like I
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don't quite the outcome is the outcome? Like that would
that would totally disgrace everything that we've ever done to
try to be great. If if the outcomes were determined,
and then now you got to ask yourself, how do
you judge the greats of the greats if the outcomes
have already been predetermined? Like how do you say it's
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predetermined that Barry Sanders is about to destroy people's ankles
and knees in the game. How do you how do
you justify Tom Brady's career if outcomes are already predetermined?
I don't. I don't buy that at all at all.
I've never been in a meeting where they said, you know,
make sure you pull up on if if you have
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this much of a lead. Isn't how that doesn't really
apply to players, Like teams can do what they want
for players that are trying for the job. You can't
tank a game with players. You just can't. The way
you tank is by really not playing your best guy.
That's why the scripted that's, yeah, that's your attempt. I don't.
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I don't buy scripted as in it's scripted where you
know who's going to win or you know who's going
to lose. But what I will say is is it
scripted in terms of how the game is regulated and
how it moves? Um? Yes, I mean it could. Even
in my humble estimation, if I were a real, true
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conspiracy theorist, I would even go as far as to
say that referees will will make calls that actually swing
a game. It will swing a game, or it'll make
the game closer, or this team, Like I, I honestly
believe that Kansas City was gonna lose that game. They
were gonna lose that game outside of the the calls,
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which the calls are, those were somewhere questionable at best,
but somewhere legit. Like there's no way you can get
around the fact that if you don't make that call
on Patrick Mahomes getting pushed, there's something wrong. So to
say there was something wrong to make the call, like
you know, we hear some of our pundits come out
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and say that call shouldn't have been made. That's preposterous.
It's it's ridiculous to say it was a penalty, all right,
but that that that past interference. It's questionable. There were
questionable calls in that game that said to me, like, man,
like what are they doing? Like even the mess up
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on the clock, Like yeah, you could show the referee
was running in this, that and the other, but why
was this one referee the one and this that. I
don't know all the terminology and all the justification, but
to me, you ran a complete play. You ran a
complete play and it was a failure of a play
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and you gave them another down. I do think the NFL, though,
has one eye on the business of football at all times,
because you have a business in The most glaring example
of that was the well, after looking at this and
reevaluating everything, we're gonna go ahead and suspend to Shawn
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Watson for eleven games, and wouldn't you know, at the
first game he can come back against his former team.
I mean, this is just of all the coincidences in
the world. So I think there is some of that,
but it's a big difference between that and scripted and
and people out there saying it's rigged, it's scripted. Come on, man,
I think I think there are a lot of aspects
that are are tremendously influenced and guided is what I'll say,
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and I'll leave it at that. Well, I'll put it
this way. I know, like you have to understand how
the seal works, how the business works. Right. If the
majority of your money helps your league survive is coming
from the TV networks, what do you think they want?
They want the biggest possible markets to have the biggest
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possible ratings so that they can then use that to
sell to advertisers and say, look, how many people watch
the properties that we have that we own that we
are are buying from the NFL or leasing from the NFL. Right,
So that way they can generate as much money from
those live games, from those advertisements, and they can pay
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as much money as the NFL is looking forward to
get so their league continues to stay healthy and on
top of all professional sports. So it's not that far
fetched to sit there and and and think that, you know,
the TV network wanting to have larger market teams in
the Super Bowl isn't probably what the NFL would like
to have as well, because they know that's good for
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their business. If it's good for the TV networks, that's
good for their business, that's good for the NFL as well,
like want to connect those dots. I just I think
it's I mean, look, I don't think any of this
stuff is scripted, you know from my experience going through it.
That's just that's just not how this all works, you know.
And I know this is getting a lot of runing
from the Aryan Foster interview, which a lot of people
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now are just taking seriously. Right then it's become like
a social media thing and all that. But trust me,
like I said, I wish I wish someone would have
would have let me know what my script was so
that way I could have at least coped with what
the reality was gonna be as opposed to what I
dreamed of. It was working towards my entire career in life.
So on hey, by the way, just on a off note,
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in terms of the matchups and the storylines and scripting,
it was kind of funny stumbled upon the fact that
you're going to have brothers for the first time playing
against each other in the Super Bowl. So I was
asked this question. Yeah, I was asked this question. Get it.
It was such a play on work. But I'm really
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gonna have brothers. What's more likely to happen again in
your mind because you have two things that play like.
People have called it the Andy Reid super Bowl because
he's facing a former team that he coached, or two
brothers facing off the super Bowl. I think the two
brothers is way more rare. I think that is a
way better storyline, is the brothers super Bowl? If you
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know what I mean. It's not the person. It looks
like there's more of a brother and a brother. But
but to make just to keep it one way or
the other. If we want to go hard, are we
could go hard? Are we could go a either way?
It's it's it's the brothers or the brother uh super Bowl? Yeah,
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because it could be. I call my my my biological
siblings brothers. Those are my brothers. Like with the Nate,
I don't call him my brothers with the hard Are,
I just don't. But that's what they are technically. So
I'm just saying it's the brothers, you know, super Bowl,
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the brothers. I call of our brother I call you brother,
I call Brady brother. I call both of y'all brothers
because y'all my brothers. Yeah you did what I'm saying
from another mother's I hear you, but you got. But
let's talk about who's going to take over for the
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Tampa Bay Parks one of the brothers. Let's let's talk
about Kyle Trash because the only quarterback under contrast Trash Trash.
Why would you want to talk about that? Nobody cares about.
Let's talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Moving on, moving,
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Haynes and Mark Stein on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. There's a
big event coming up this weekend, A little little Clash
at the Colosseum. Pretty fire pant little clash at the Colosseum.
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The l a coliseum. I mean a real clash, yeah,
like tire clashing, you know, cars clashing better believe it.
You know, one of those deal super competitive, very cramped
in there by the way, super cramped. Yeah, so we're
gonna see cramped as you may think though, Hey, then
it's a little more room me there. I mean, definitely custom.
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Wonder what top speed. By the way, the clash of
the coliseum is, well on the spaedometer, it's as fast
yeah as hail, Yeah, as fast the super fast and
then as fast as hail. Well. One guy who's gone
fast as hell for a long time in the world
of NASCAR is Kevin Harvick, NASCAR Cup Series Champion. He's
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the driver of the number four Bush light Ford Mustang
for Stewart Hoss Racing. Kevin, thanks so much for the time, man,
Thanks for waking up early with us. Here it's two
pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,
good morning, guys. Thank you for having me. It's uh,
it's it's nice to be able to get up and
talk to some racing in the morning. So I have
two kids, so I'm up and ready to go. All right.
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Good deal, good deal. Kevin, I gotta start off by
asking you a unique question to to this week's race.
Do you guys, you guys get dizzy when you're when
you're driving around and there, I feel like it's a
small track, right A you just doing his fast circles
round and a round around. Yeah, well, I think it's
I think it's like really any other sport. I think
as you get into a rhythm and and start doing
the things that you need to do, everything just slows down.
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As I sat in the simulator yesterday and and started
doing all of our setup work and preparation for the race,
I was, I was, I was a little bit behind
yesterday to to be to be honest with you, because
there's so much happening with the shifting and brakes and
small track and and everything going on that that it definitely,
uh took a few laps to get to the point
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of of slowing down and being able to do everything fluently.
Are you are you able to get to the type
of speeds that you are on the bigger tracks or
is it is it all the way adjusted to you
know how how large the track is. Yeah, so everything
will everything will be scaled to the to the racetrack
as far as geary um, the speed will will will
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obviously be down because of the size of the race track.
But with the with the with the different size racetrack,
it's it's just a different style of racing. And most
of us that that race in in the in the
top level of NASCAR racing all grew up on the
short tracks across the country, racing on on boll we
call bull rings, just really small racetrack quarter mile, three
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eight mile, half mile race tracks. As as we were
learning how to um to navigate the ropes of of nascars.
So this this really I think last year when when
we went to the l A call sum and looking
back at the preparation for the race last year and
the new car and everything that was going in, I
honestly laughed. I thought this would be the biggest joke
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that that we that we had on the schedule. And
then we got done with the race and ran the
whole year, and I looked back at last year's race
and how much fun everybody had and how unique it
was and how well the um you know, the cars
raced on on the racetrack, and and just the emotion
in the stadium is much different than what you have
at some of our bigger racetracks because everybody's right on
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top of you and and so you know, to be
able to hear the fans and when you're watching the
other races is um, you know, as much different than
those laces. He's Kevin Harvick, NASCAR Cup Series Champion, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on Twitter
at Kevin Harvick. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. So this is
your final season full time, correct, as far as running
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in NASCAR and doing the full time gig. And when
you look at your career, you're one of four drivers.
You've one Daytona, you won the Coca Cola six hundred,
you won the Brickyard, you won the Southern five hundred.
What's left? Like, what is your ideal outro look like
in your final full season driving for NASCAR? Well, unfortunate
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and I think you know a lot of the a
lot of the professional athletes don't get to choose when
they're done. And you know, I've been fortunate to be
able to have might have my choice of of saying, okay,
this is this is going to be my last year
and this is this is what we're going to do.
But as I've gone through this process over over the
last year and a half of planning the last year,
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that the one thing that I really realized is just
how many how many people you've you've affected and worked
with and and been a part of through the years,
and and how important it is to do this last
year right and and and you know, enjoy it um
and be able to try to do the things that
I've done for the for the last twenty two years
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on on the Cup Series level, and that's to be
competitive and and be able to to race in the
front of the field and have a chance to win
races and and go out like I started. So you know,
it's it's all. It's been a lot of planning. There's
been a lot of things that have gone into the
year as far as um, you know, just different paint
schemes and helmets and and trying to make sure that
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you don't forget anybody who's helped you to this particular
point of my career. Um. But you know, the last
year is important and I look at it as really,
you know, your first year and whatever you're doing as
to to to make an impact and make an impression
and try to be as professional as possible and in
all those situations that we've created and who we represent,
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and you know, pay pay honor to the to the
people who helped me get to this point. So there's
a lot of there's a lot of touch points that
that need to be um involved in, that are involved
in in the last year to be able to do
this the right way. And we've tried to plan it
that way and be able to go to the racetracks
and in race in front of the fans one more
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time and and talk about, you know, something that's great
that happened in that particular market, and you know, we've
been fortunate to have a lot of success and and
that's really the goal of the last year. Kevin. I
think i'd be curious just for people to hear your
process about the course of a week. You know, you mentioned, Hey,
I was in the simulator and I'm trying to kind
of get my bearings down for this particular track because
it's unique. Take us through, like what exactly that looks like,
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like what I'm imagining that simulator, Like are you sitting
in something, is it on a computer desk somewhere like
take us through what your process looks like to prepare
for a race. Yeah, so you know, the one thing
about NASCAR racings is a lot of people underestimate the
magnitude of the engine nearing and UH simulation and things
that go into our sport. But Forward Performance Center has
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three UM full size simulators. So basically what that means
is that the center section of the car basically is
is exact size. It has my seat, my steering wheel,
all my gauges, and it has UM. I guess it's
almost I guess, well, the new one has Our new
simulator has three sixty degree screen with projectors and everything
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from from each racetrack, so when when you sit in
the car, it has full movement and UM, you know
the racetrack you can go day, night, rain, UH, sun, dark,
lights on, lights off, All the signs are on the wall,
the grand stands are there, so you you have those
references and things that you need at the actual racetrack
that are all simulated and simulator and and then we
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run through UH set up changes and things like that
based on you know, based on path knowledge and and
things that they that they've built into the into the system,
so you know, it's it's definitely not sitting at your
desktop or an I racing simulator or anything like that anymore.
It's there their life sized vehicles with all your stuff
and and you know, it's it's really progressed over the
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last few years since practice has has gone away at
the racetrack. We get now we get twenty minutes of
practice and then you go straight to qualifying. So the
preparation all happens during the week and you can make
you know, you can make some minor adjustments at the
racetrack to the cars, but um, you know, Tuesday we
have our team meetings. Wednesday we're in the simulator. Usually
it's a you know, three day a week workout process.
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And and you know, these these first four out of
six races are a logistical nightmare. We go to Los
Angeles and have a week off and then come back
to Daytona and then back to Los Angeles, Las Vegas
and Phoenix to to start the season. And all the
teams are basically located in North Carolina, so there's a
lot of logistical challenges that come with the first part
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of the season and in preparation during the week still
has to happen, So all the teams for the most
part fly privately and who's the races over. They all
fly back to North Carolina and prepp next week's car,
and you know, and during the during the you know,
the start of the season, when we're on the West coast,
of the teams will uh stay out here and there
to prep the cars that they have out on on
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the West coast. So there's a lot of moving pieces
and and uh, you know, each team has hundreds and
hundreds of people that work in their shop for the
most part, to to make it all go around. You know,
I'm a big race fan. I'll actually be there Friday morning.
I'll see you on Friday. This is var um. I
got so many questions I want to ask. I'll save
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something for when I see you. But one of one
of the things I want to throw out at you
right now, UM, rivalries, you know, we love them in sports. Um.
One that I really liked was was Bush and Johnson. Um.
Pretty you know, some would label it arch Nemesis. Do
you have someone that you kind of, you know, have
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a love hate relationship with that you know out there
on the track. It's like I'm looking for him, he's
looking for me. Um there that we could see what
goes on and how it goes down and how it plays.
I mean, you seem soft spoken, but you know sometimes
the most soft spoken dudes are are kind of the
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you know, they are the dudes on on the track
and how they do things. You know, I know you
have a pretty pretty smooth race style. But is there
someone that you just you're out there on the on
the track and it's like yeah, like allright, like I
got you, like here, like here we go, who's the
biggest pain in the ass? Yeah, yeah, there you go
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summarize it? Uh well, you know, I think I think
for for our side of the our side of the
sports world, I think for them. For us, it's, um
it's very different because you could you imagine if you
played the same team every week and and then you
you know, you're part six feet from them, your your
lock of rooms are together in the garage, we're part
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six feet apart. And so that the hardest thing to
new to do is navigate how far to take all
these things when you do have those run ins. Because
I've had I've had a lot through the years, and
I think that those rivalries have kind of come and
gone amongst different people, because it seems like each year,
you know, you have you have somebody somebody new and
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and you know, we've we've gone through the years and
we've we've had our fair share of of run ins
with with you know, different drivers, and it seems like
those things kind of carry on through the year. But
the most difficult thing to navigate is to know when
to let your guard down and say, Okay, that needs
to be over because now it's affecting the performance of
my team, and I'm having to answer questions in the
media about you know, us running into each other, and
(41:45):
then my crew chiefs answer questions, and then it's starting
to distract from the conversation in the Tuesday meetings and
and sponsors are starting to call. So, you know, you
carry those things out as you see fit. You know,
we've we've carried some of them out for years. We've
carried some of them out for hours, we carried some
of them out for days. And I think as I've
gone through this, I have a I have a pretty
good relationship with with a lot of the guys in
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the garage, But you know, you have to be willing
to do whatever you have to do in in a
moment's notice to to win a race, and especially with
you know how competitive it's becomes so um, sometimes you
do what you have to do. You stuff with the
consequences after the race and whatever comes with that you
start to deal with and process and do the things
that you have to do to uh, either carry on
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a rivalry or um. You know, if you think that
that you have the upper hand in the situation, you
do with what you think is right as far as
being able to push somebody's buttons. So it just depends.
Sometimes you push all the buttons and you get them
all wound up and and cause many distractions as you can,
and sometimes you just let it go. So it depends
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on the magnitude of the situation for me personally. Get
him on Twitter at Kevin Harvick. He's Kevin Harvick, NASCAR
Cups Series Champion driver of the number four bush Light
Ford Mustang for Stewart Hopps Racing, his final go his
final season as a full time driver. And you can
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