April 13, 2023 • 43 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap the NBA Play-in games including the Pelicans losing without Zion suiting up. Saquon Barkley is understandably frustrated, but it’s a mistake to not sign the franchise tag. Senior NFL Reporter for the MMQB, Albert Breer gives insight into the Odell Beckham Jr. signing and where things stand with Bryce Young and CJ Stroud.
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It's the best of two pros and a couple of
joe When Lamar, Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks on Fox
Foorts Radio. Hey, by the way, Brady Quinn, the pride
of Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, you weren't kiding, man, there's some
footage on the Weather Channel right now. What the hell's
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going on there? In seven hours yesterday we got almost
two feet of rain it. In fact, they take measurements
at the Hollywood four Ladder Hollywood Airport, and that is
the most rainfall they've got, uh in that amount of time,
let alone in a three day span. That literally surpassed
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I think a record that was set in nineteen twenty
four for accumulation of rain over three days. So it was,
it was. It was unlike anything I've ever witnessed down here.
I was just trying to explain that too, um life
who didn't seem to understand what was happening. I said, Look,
we've been down here for almost fourteen years. I'm on
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a place in South Florida. I've never seen it rain
consistently like this, and it's actually been raining for the
past three or four days. Had a technical issue yesterday
as I hopefully didn't didn't get noticed. But it's it's
been raining and then on top of it, it just
started pouring. And I mean, like anyone who's ever experienced
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a tropical weather where you get like big things, big
sheets of rain. I mean not I mean a big old,
chubby drops of rain. You know, these aren't like it's
not like Seattle where it's a mist, you know, or
maybe in southern California you guys get just a little
bit of rain here and there, you know, just a
little bit of real half fare right now. Oh, these
are like big old fat boys of rain, like like
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obese or oh yeah, I mean, I mean juicy j
But it happened. It happened so quick. People that I
tell some of our friends are talked to, were like
out trying to get dinner. They got stranded. I don't
even know how they got home because there was literally
three feet of water. I mean they were like, yeah,
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we're stuck around the street. We have no way of
moving our car at this point. In some spots, like
the one restaurant they were going to try to go to,
had they actually valeated and went to the restaurant, their
car would have been floating down the street. So I'm
sure some of the cars that your friends draft could
transform into you know, hub or crafts got there. Fifty
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just turned into a pontoon boat in the middle of nowhere.
How about that there was a guy actually swimming out
in the middle of the roads here during what would
have been considered rush hour. But I mean it was crazy.
I mean it's stopped now, um office, Sarah. Kids are
off school today because God forbid, God forbid, they actually
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still be able to go to show. It's not even
like the school's fluttered or anything. God forbid they to
be able to fight through some adversity and actually have
school today. Now you're fat ass rain that you're dealing
with there, and this the measurements and the historic Yeah
it is stop. But I would so that record is
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including tropical storms, hurricanes, all of that. This you're getting
out rained right now. You're beating hurricanes that have blown
through there. Yeah, so it's it's odd and I don't
know anything about weather, but my understanding is like they're
just continued to be a constant um storm over for Lauderdale.
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Like throughout the course of the day, there was multiple
different wind conditions and the way the storms were coming
in and they just all continually sat on for Lauderdale
dumped rain for a period of time. I mean, the
airport was closed down, the planes that know where to go,
the people and cars an ago like there was. There
was water going into the baggage claim that's how high
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the water got below. I mean it was. It was
just a crazy sceing there. I've never seen anything like
that what happened yesterday. Yeah, well that that sucks. It's
a rough situation, much like the playing tournament and the
nine ten matchups. Rough basketball with rough teams. I mean
competitive your bulls gat got through it. Competitive games. Whose bulls?
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Not my bulls? Your bowls? No, not mine? Not a
bull That's where his wild RP is from me. You know, yeah,
he's a Boston fan for basketball. Well, but if we're
gonna be technical, one of those guys, wider over the
wide ERP is from. Did you guys know he's from Monmouth, Illinois.
Widerp western part of the state. You know, a two
hour train right outside of Chicago, near Gayalsburg. But again,
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we're just talking Midwest stuff here. I mean that's what
we do on this show. But we had a couple
of nine ten matchups, which is ridiculous that a nine
or a ten seed would have an opportunity to even
make the postseason. But this is the NBA, this is
their playing tournament, and it sure did seem like in
the nightcap that was the Thunder and the Pelicans in
New Orleans. Sure seems like New Orleans could have use
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Ion Williamson. I don't know what it was speaking of
Zion that it was probably most comparable to. It was
like Zion Williams. I'm just say, big old, big old
Zion drops of rain. It's um well for you to
say big old, useless drops of I don't know, that's
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just what popped into my head right there in that moment.
You don't listen, um, I just feel like Jackson Smith
and Jim I mean Zion Williamson, who's been out with
a hamstring issue January. I'm sorry about that. I got
good confused there, but he's been out with this hamstring
issue since January. Take a listen to his reasoning why
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he wasn't still available for a playing tournament game in
New Orleans last night. Here was Zion physically. I'm fine, Nah,
it's just a matter of when I feel like Zion, Um,
I know the atmosphere, i'd be interesting based off like
the playoff experience. So no matter when I feel like Zion,
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what does that mean? I that would not land well
with me if I was a teammate, that would not.
But what does that mean? Like? And then he did it.
He went in third third person, like, what is that?
What does that mean? For twice? Feel like Zion? He
went third person twice? Yeah, yeah, it's there. Look I like.
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I like Zion a lot and he was fun to
watch in college and rooting for him to have success
because everything you've heard is that he's a really good dude.
But this feels like mentally he's got to hang up
there because the foot that he had surgery on, he's
recovered from this is now a hamstring issue. And when
he says, I feel fine physically, but I don't feel
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like I'm Zion in the atmosphere, I'm ntoring. I don't
feel like I would be conducive for where I'm at
at this point in my career and at this point
with this recovery which has already recovered, that to me
just wouldn't. When I said, well, he's a megastar. He's
clearly accomplished enough in the NBA where he could actually
take that approach to Wait, this is Durant. Wait hold on,
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this isn't a steph Curry. Uh wait wait wait wait,
we're talking about Zion Williamson, right, like, not not one
of these guys who have had Hall of Fame pro
careers that may may actually be understood if they said
I need to feel like Kevin Durant today. You know,
I need to feel more like you know that guy.
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I just think that that's it. Is it safe to
say there's a little bit of immaturity there and a
lack of awareness. You know, I've been I always teach
my kids that mentor and including my own kids, one
of the most important things you have to understand is
spatial awareness and understanding spatial awareness meaning like be someone
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who understands what's going on with the room. Be aware
of what's going on around you and how you speak,
what you do. If you're walking in the middle of
the mall, don't just stop in the middle of the
walk away because you needed to stop and look at
your phone. Like spatial awareness. There's probably going to be
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somebody walking behind you that might walk up into you
because you just stopped for no reason, same thing out
of the airport or whatever it may be. Understanding spatial
awareness gives you the opportunity and the ability to avoid
and avert any type of unnecessary, you know, conflict. And
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in this situation, he didn't have awareness and the spatial
awareness of what his scenario is, what his real life
scenario is, which could very well be true that Zion
needs to feel more like Zion before he can play.
But you got to explain what that means, Like, explain
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what that means because people people around you, you're I
don't know that they're reading that the right way, and
we didn't read it the right way. I'm certain a
lot of people aren't reading it the right way. I
know he's aware of the fact that people don't think
highly of him in terms of what his health is,
just based off of everything that's happened since he's been
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in the league. You got to be able to answer
that question in a way where it holds you in
a favorable, favorable situation, is what I'll say. He just did.
He had no spatial awareness in this one, like know
who's around you, if you're talking to your friends and
your family, that's cool, but you're talking to the me
filling like Zion, it wasn't the proper That wasn't the
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proper play if you asked me, Yeah, I just I
don't know, man. I think that his like this is,
like I said, a mental thing with him now it's
it's no longer the physical aspect of it. And it
could be some of the coverage he's got because people
have taken shots at him about his way about his
and so and so. Maybe that's you know, he's really
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insecure about that. But at some point, either to me
just from the outside, you're either built for the criticism
or you're just not built for it. He may love basketball,
and he got his contract extension. I mean they gave
him almost what two hundred million dollars or something like
that a couple of months ago or last year. Rather,
I just the idea that he's physically ready to go,
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but mentally, knowing what the playoffs and the atmosphere is,
doesn't feel like he's going to be Zion. If I'm
a teammate and I'm playing game eighty three of US
season after a long year and I'm trying to get
into the postseason. Hearing somebody say they're healthy but mentally
not ready to go, that would not sit well with
me at all at all. Yeah, I mean, you know,
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there's always certain people who are hashtag built for this,
you know, Yeah, you just talking about it all the time,
shownas I look, I don't really have a strong stance
on this with Zion. I think you know, whether it's
a physical injury, whether it's a mental thing. You know,
it's been a while since, you know, we've really seen
him being an impactful player for a consistent period of time.
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And the big internament from him coming out of Duke
was always his weight and weight management. I mean, look,
it's the NFL Draft just coming up. We said the
same thing about every big man. You know, Mozzi Smith, Hey,
if he keeps his weight under control, an Toniomafi, right,
he's a guard out of ucay Hey, he's great, good
player if he keeps his weight under control. Like every
big guy, that's always what you talk about, if they
keep their weight under control. And I'm sure that led
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to this. I mean, a hamstring injury that lasted this long,
there's got to be a portion of it that involves
weight and then you get to a point where you
are back. But do you mentally feel like the zion
you you know, you feel like you can be or
that you've been paid to be, and there's there's so
many things that go to as a professional athlete. The
hard part is is when comments like this come out
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with their public, no one feels sorry for you. You
make a guarantee nine figures. I mean, it's just these
are better things left unsaid, at least to the media,
and and just move forward and get out there and
help your team the best you can. But I can
see if he's concerned about potentially getting in the way, like, hey,
I'm watching my team have a good rhythm, and now
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they want to put me back in there to interject.
Maybe I'm coming off the bench, maybe I'm not playing
as big of a role as I used to. But
that seems like you're paying a guy a lot of
money if that's the case. So it's it's a little
more complicated. Obviously, I'm sure that we're making it to be.
But as Jonah says it all the time, Jonas, I
mean someone you know, hashtag built for yeah, and those
who aren't you just get left to the side of
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the road. That's how this works. You know. It's like
the people last night in four Lauderdale. Some were built
to go get Valeid and get out of that restaurant,
and some weren't billed for it. Some people didn't realize
that car turn turned into a boat. Yeah, I mean,
LaVar said it transformers into boats quick. Be sure to
catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of
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Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays
at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio A. We do have some news
out of the NFL, though, We've always got some news
out of the NFL because somebody in the National Football
League has taken a stand. Somebody, Yeah, and that's somebody
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represents we are somebody, say Quon Barkley, it's taking a stand.
He is not going to sign his franchise tender before
the offseason program begins on Monday. Now, the franchise tag,
if he were to sign, it, pays him a little
over ten million dollars for the upcoming season, and sources
have told ESPN a couple of months ago that Barkley
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was looking for a deal around fourteen million dollars a
year that that would be suffice for him to return
to the New York Giants long term. But apparently, as
it stands right now, the franchise tag and the ten
million dollars in change, that's not enough. He's taken a
sand stand and he's not signing that bad boy stand
in sand. Yeah, sa Quon Barkley talking about here, and
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he's got a ton of leverage. Good cue. That's funny.
That was that was sarcasm. Well, I was just say
it's so just so people understand the situation he is.
He has had the non exclusive franchise tag slapped on him. Um,
and that means obviously, much like Lamar Jackson we've talked about,
other teams could submit a long term deal and and
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then the Giants would have to match, so that that
that situation still exists even in the case of sa
Quon Barkley. Um, You're you're obviously not gonna You're not
gonna get that for a running back. It's been a
really hard off season for running backs. They're just not
utilized or valued the way they used to be, So
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you have to understand why he's frustrated and why he's
taking this stance at the at the very you know,
I guess edge or close to the beginning of the
NFL off season where this whole deadline ensued. You know,
they thought Daniel Jones was going to be one that
got the tag and they weren't gonna be able to
get a long term deal done with him. But in
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the last hour, the Giants hammered out a long term
deal Daniel Jones that freed them up to use the
tag on say Quon Barkley, And that's how we got here.
So say Quon and his crew were thinking, all right,
we're gonna get free agency to find a long term
deal with an organization that you know wants to sign
you know me too that and believes in me. And
so once that switched, I'm sure he was a bit
salty about it. And so even though he makes a
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pretty good amount, I think he believes he could have
made more in as signing bonus and short term by
being able to sign a long term deal with whoever
else out there and free agent. And he's probably not wrong,
But even then he's not going to be able to
maximize what he's capable of making, and he could play
two three years under the tag. That's probably about as
good as money as he's gonna make right now as
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a running back. But the general point is that I
think he's frustrated with how that all worked out, obviously
for Daniel Jones's benefit, but not for his. I mean,
if you're thinking of it this way, I imagine that,
like a teammate gets his extension, you don't get yours,
and you get slapped the franchise tax. You gotta hang
around a place for another year that doesn't have the
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long term plans of using you. I mean, yeah, you
get paid well for it. But he was gonna get
paid well regardless this year if he had free agency.
So I think there's some frustration on his side of
all this. And the only thing I don't like about
not signing the tag is, let's say, for example, you know,
he gets injured at some point in time walking to
go pick up a pizza in New York. He's not
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getting that money. Like, until you sign that a franchise tag,
it's not guaranteed to you. So I I mean, you do.
You have until July fifteenth to negotiate a longer term
deal with the Giants, and I would go sign it
right away just to have protection versus any of that stuff.
You know. Well, I was if there's a big flood
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that happens in New York City and you get whisked away,
and you know, in whatever car you run into something.
I mean, I just there's all crowdings of crazy scenarios.
It's almost like taking out an insurance policy on yourself.
Like you know, once you sign that, you're guaranteed to it,
that that organization has to own up to it and
honor it. So I would go sign it knowing that
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our real deadline now for long term deals July, and
if they don't want to, you know, if they don't
want to agree to it, all right, or a long
term deal like so be it. I gotta play out
this year and I gotta look into next year and
I'll get paid a little bit more into the tag
if they do it again, or I'll try to hit
free agency because you can't go to leaving on bell
route that doesn't help you, and and doing this like
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you kind of subject yourself to a bit of risk.
I've seen guys signed the franchise tag and they come
in and they don't do anything in the off season.
They come up for off season workouts, the workouts, stay
in shape, they're not practicing, and there's nothing wrong. There's
there's no reason to say why he can't do that
if he wanted to do that. I'm curious not signing
the tag. That doesn't mean that the other teams can.
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They can't act as though he's not signed under the tag.
They've already assigned that to him. Correct, right, what's the
matter he's still has whether he signs that are not
right now, it doesn't matter. Another team would have to
go through the compensation of what that that tag represents.
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What what is that compensation for a running back for?
But I'm saying if if, if, if they were to,
if another team were to come in and do a
deal with say Quon, that that the Giants could match.
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Is that purely what it is. It's not it's not like, uh,
you got to give up first round draft picks and
stuff like that for compensation. It's just more or less
they offered say Quon more than or offered him a contract.
Say Quan says, I like the contract, I don't like
the contract. If he does like the contract, then the
Giants get an opportunity to match it. That's correct, correct, Yeah.
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The one thing when Josh Norman got franchise tagged by
Carolina and then they removed the tag and he ended
up signing a long term deal with Washington UM And
I don't know if that's just because they couldn't they
couldn't agree on anything, and they said, screw it. If
you want to go elsewhere, you can go elsewhere. I
don't know did Carolina get any compensation for that in
return for him signing anywhere. I don't think they did. No,
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not if you were sending the tag. Yeah, and so
the Giants could always do that during the during this period.
I guess that'd be one way of going about it.
But why would you you why would you send the
tag at this point You've got a really good player
that you obviously want to keep around. You're trying to
explain to them, Hey, we want to we want to
hammer out a long term deal with you two, and
we just got to figure out how to make the
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money work. I mean, I just there's there's usually by
the way, I don't know what Josh Norman ended up
making that year, but I would assume it's better when
you can hang around longer in one spot. And for
say Quon, he makes a lot of money in the
New York media market. I mean that's the number one marketing,
number one market in the country. You risk a bit
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of that too. Let's say you go to a smaller market,
obscure market. You're not making quite as many dollars off
the field. For someone like say Quon, who's a good
looking dude, who's a great player, that's something to take
into account. I mean you really should in that event,
because you know he's going to be able to make
some of the money up at least in marketing in
New York. You can't see that in some of the
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other markets. Josh Norman got five years, seventy five million,
with thirty six and a half million fully guaranteed, fifty
million in guarantees total. So how much did you actually
make off that deal though? I mean, I don't know.
Thirty six and a half million, I don't know, that's
the guarantees. It's twenty sixteen, so I don't think he
lived out the lifetime of the contract. No, he didn't.
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And then Derek Hanny made thirty six plus he had
a couple more years, so he had have made it
about fifty on that deal. For twenty sixteen and then
and then twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen he played for
the Commandos. Be sure to catch live editions of Two
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What do you get when you combine a three time
Manager of the Year at a three time National Sports
Writer of the Year. It's the Book of Joe Podcast. Hey,
this is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network and
Sports Illustrated, and I'm Joe Madden, and we're gonna be
around to talk a little bit about manage real decisions,
playoff games, and what may have accredited to the dugout
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maybe in the nineteen eighties. I can't wait for this, Joe.
We're gonna dive into what goes on in the dugout
and behind the scenes in Major League Baseball, Car's wind,
whatever else we want to talk about. Listen to the
Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts right now. We turn
it over to the man himself, Albert Breer, senior NFL
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reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. Albert, what the hell's happening? And how's
your Thursday? I hope you're not talking about me. I'm
not the one pissed off my own organization, am I? Noh?
Are you? But but I am. I'm a little bit
upset with Albert. I feel like he was stand backing
us for a couple of months here. I mean, so,
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so last week you dropped that you believe in talking
to people because Bryce Young took like, you know, the
modified SAT test, whatever the hell it's called, yes to s.
This is what I say, because you know what Alper
Breer did. He comes on the air and says, you know,
I'm hearing that it's gonna be Bryce Young, and I'm thinking,
wait a second. All of the odds are saying, c J. Stroud,
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there's plus money on Bryce Young. And in a matter
of a week, the odds have completely flipped and now
Bryce Young is a three sixty? Is Albert brier line? Mover?
Come on, you move the line single handedly last week
and you given us the heads up of you were
going to do that, we could have gotten good money
on this. Well, you guys gotta be better listeners. Then
maybe you guys should should have taken what I was saying,
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and well, hold on, hold on, don't see you guys
just blame Jonas because I've got hey, by the way,
before you start, Hey, honestly, before you get start braids,
everything all right down there? It looks like I mean, Mike,
I was like sort of wondering if you're even good
beyond to day. Like, no, it's it's it's a valid question.
I really appreciate you asking, Albert. I slept last night
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at scuba suit. Outside of that, we're good, you know.
Outside of that. I mean I literally put on the
flippers snorkels for our kids and I said, hey, guys,
just remember, breathe through that. Don't don't don't try to
breathe through your nose, breathe through your mouth. Okay, Outside
of that, were great. Yeah, all right, It's just I mean,
like some of the stuff he's see on social media,
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my holy crap. Yeah no, there was you know, look
it hit fast. I was explaining to people, Um, there
was more rain in a seven hour period than there
has ever been in Fort Lauderdale over a three day
span dating back in nineteen twenty four. So it was
a historic rain. And of course, as I sit here
and talk to you now, the sun is out, it
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looks beautiful outside, and of course my kids are not
going to school today. There you go. Well, I mean
like now, and Brady, I know you guys don't deal
with snow days anymore, but they call like snow days
like two days ahead of time, like now appear. It's unbelievable.
Like you remember what it used to be like you
used to wake up, you'd wake up, you'd wake up
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at seven am and be like watching the local news,
like hoping your school district would come across the bottom
crawl there, you know what I mean, It's so true.
That was that was the bottom crawl was like, that
was where it started. And the ESPN I think only
realize like, oh wait, we should probably do this with
with our outlay. Yeah, that's exactly where the call started,
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is like, And it was always alphetical order. So it
was heartbreaking when like you'd see, like you figure it out,
like the two schools that just passed years would have
been in between the two of them. I always I
always thought it was interesting when like you had a
neighboring school that was and yours wasn't yours? Off. Yeah yeah,
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I mean listen, a lot of people are are pretty
pissed off. And those people would be the New York
Jets who apparently thought Odell Beckham Junior was going to
be arriving for a visit Albert and so now he's
a Baltimore Raven and so now him and Lamar Jackson
are dodging the fatass rain drops in Florida at a
party at Live Nightclub and celebrate the new deal. Could
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we be on the verge of a piece a peaceful
resolution between Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens? Is that
war staring at um? I don't think, like, you know,
I don't think that this like assures anything, but I
certainly think that you can't help it can't hurt, you know,
so um. You know, like basically, the way I look
at like the Odell situation is you guys, remember like
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on when back when, like the eBay and all the
auction sites, you could go like there's at this by
now thing on it. You know what? I mean, like
where you could pay a certain prices to take something
off the market. Right. I feel like that's what the
Ravens did with with Odell, you know, like that they
paid a premium price to go and get him and
to prevent him from going and visiting the Jets, And like,
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I think they'd be naive to think they didn't do
that without thinking of the effect that it could have
on the Lamar negotiation. Now, Um, you know, you guys know,
like this has been a complicated negotiation. Um, There's been offers,
there's been counter offers. Like I think that there is
a genuine desire on both sides to get something done,
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and there has been for a long time. And the
trade request is sort of I think a signal of
how sideways everything got and how fundamentally a part the
two sides have been at points in all of this.
I think part of the issue that the Ravens have
had is because Lamar's waited for five years. He wants
to win on every front. He wants to win on term,
he wants to win on average per year, he wants
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to win on total dollars. He wants to win on
every single front. Guarantees all of it, and they've been
trying to get him to compromise and come to their
side at least a little bit because of this sort
of precedent was set with other players, and so that's
sort of where the push and pull has been. And
like I view the Odell thing as feeling a need.
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I mean, they had a very legitimate need at receiver,
and this gives them a little bit more flexibility going
into the draft and how they use their capital and
everything else. But I certainly think a piece of it
is an alive branch to to Lamar Jackson and saying listen,
like we're not planning on starting over with a new quarterback.
We're planning on going all in on you, and we're
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going to do what we can to win in the
here and the now, and here's a symbol of that,
and going and probably overpaying a little bit for a
guy who's got a very high ceiling still even at
you know, almost thirty one years old, and you know,
if it works, I think you can say it was
worth it to do it, to pay a little bit
more for Odell Beckham. If that means it's gonna lead
to some sort of piece treaty with Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
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I mean, look, you already saved what twelve million by
not putting the exclusive franchise tag more, and so you
can use some of that to overspend on Odell, and
if it saves you from giving him a two hundred
and thirty million plus fully guaranteed deal, that it's good
money spent. I mean, at the end of the day,
I want to transition though, and just peel back the curtain,
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all right, because Albert's one of the guys that I
love and trust, and obviously we're lucky we have on
our show every week, and we have some conversations off air,
and there's one that you know, I'll just I'll ask
you and see how you respond to this. But I
was saying, it's it's been odd to me the Texans
who have two picks in the top what twelve of
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the draft? They people keeping people that I respect and
have done this for a while, keep doing mocks without
a quarterback taking in the first round for Houston, and
it's it's hard for me to even I even think
that that's a possibility. However, the people who are doing
these mocks, it's not just doing it to do it.
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They do a good job. They know what they're doing,
they have you know, inside sources, and it led me
to ask Albert, what is up with this? Is there
a real chance Houston's going to sit there and not
take a quarterback with either one of those two first
round picks. I think that, well, I'm less certain on
the second one. You know, on the first one. I
think that there is a real discussion point in the
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room right now, and I think, you know, part of
it is where the two guys in charge are coming from,
and the fact that the two guys in charge haven't
worked together before. You know, Nick as Sario and Damiko
Ryan's and if you look, you know, and you want
to get Nicks STEREO's history. He's been in the league
for twenty three years I think now, and he's never
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taken a quarterback higher than sixty second overall, and that
was Jimmy Garoppolo. And then you know, you look at
Demiko and Demiko has been coaching in the league for
six years now. And in San Francisco, they spent one
first round pick on a quarterback and that was Trey
Lance and they wound up getting into the NFC Championship
game three times with two quarterbacks who weren't Trey Lance.
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So like, I think both guys have like this basis
where they can say, if we're not head over heels
in love with one of these guys, would we be
better off with Tyree Wilson or would be would we
be that better off with Will Anderson? Would we be
better off with a defensive player who can be a
real difference maker for us? And Demiko has the example
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of Nick Bosa, you know, from four years ago, where
he can say, like, I know how to build I
know how to build that sort of team, you know,
And so you know, I think it's a real discussion point.
I think ownership is going to have a heavy hand
in this too. An ownership has waited, and you know,
I think there are different things at work with c J. Stroud,
you know, the Anthony Richardson thing is out there too.
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Of course, I think that'd be a reach, you know,
based on talking to other teams. But you know, obviously
the ceiling is very high there. And look like I
think if Bryce Young wered a slide from one to two,
I think it becomes academic and take Texans, just take them,
you know, And and I think that that would be
their guy. But if Bryce goes number one overall, like
I think he probably will, the Carolina you know, I
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think that there's you know, I think that's where the
debate is right now in that room. Not that they
won't have that decide in two weeks from now, but
I think that's where the debate is right now in
that room. And I'm not sure that they have a
final decision on whether or not they go quarterback in
the event that Young's not there for them. So it
felt like Albert Breer, by the way, joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. So it felt like,
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you know, when we talked about the odds and we're
kind of kidding back and forth, but it almost seemed
like Houston was going to sit there at two, and
if you believed all the buzz about CJ. Stroud at one,
that you know, Bryce Young was going to fall in
their lap. So there's a real chance it's either Bryce
Young or nobody else for them, and that they see
a clear difference between CJ. Strout and Bryce Young. If
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that's the case, why do you think that's the case
in Houston, I would say, you know, I think part
of it is Bryce's makeup and that's I think to
both Tamiko and to Nick, despite the fact that they
come from different backgrounds, I think one thing they have
in common is that makeup and the quarterbacks really important
and like Bryce is a plus plus, you know, like
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everything you hear about, like how Bryce's meetings have gone. Um,
you know, we mentioned the S two tests last year
last week, you know, coming from Nick Saban's program, what's
coming out of that program? I mean, like you'd have
a hard time finding anybody to say anything negative on
Bryce Young that doesn't have to deal with a hiders
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white and so like I think that that you know,
like just having faith in what you're buying into is
a big part of it, you know, CJ. I think
there have been some maturity issues and there's some things
that you have to work through there with him, you know,
and like his meetings haven't been perfect, and there are
other things that you can knock him for, um, And
you know, I think he answered a lot of the
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on field questions against Georgia. You know, how athletic is he,
how creative is he, How how willing is he to
run and put his body on the line all that, Like,
he answered a lot of it against Georgia. But the
question is is that a flash or is that something
that's just you know, a kid growing up and turning
the corner. Those are all the questions the teams are
going through a CJ strout. So I just think, um,
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I think CJ's got a you know, a really really
good skill set, has a chance to be probably a
top ten quarterback in the NFL based on the physical ability.
The question is would make up? And you have none
of those questions with Rice Young? Yeah, all because of
the S two test. But we'll get into um when
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the hell Roger you should take it? You know what?
I actually went online after you mentioned it and I
was like, I want to take this. I really want
to do this, and uh I honestly, yeah, which show
we all want to do? I would love Jonas to
do it. I would love to, said Jonas, well, we
don't know that Shona maybe a quarterback. Yeah, maybe maybe
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he will show us. Yeah, I'm gonna go out on
a limit. Say it doesn't matter what the S two
test tells us. There was no chance I was ever
going to be a quarterback, So it evaluates the cognitive
abilities in game situations, so the players understand the level
of their instinct Yeah I'm gonna fail this miserably, anticipation, reading, reacting,
and adapting to the game, or now measurable skills. Brady,
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here's the Yeah, here's the thing that I don't like
about putting so much weight into a computer program like this.
It's it's one metric, it's one measurement. Yeah, you know what,
this doesn't factor in and they need to adjust this
A three hundred pound defensive lineman trying to hit you
while doing it. That changes it a little bit. Like
if they had this S two program and they had
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someone with a hammer who was literally standing next to
you and he's going to smash your hand if you
got it wrong. That would probably be the equivalent of
that sort of pressure that you feel when you're actually playing.
That's the only problem is it's just one baseline measurement
that's not applicable. But really playing quarterback, right, there's a
lot of things that Yeah, mentally, how you process that's
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part of it, But then how you process it and
throw the football and get your body where it needs
to be and then handle the pressure getting hit. That's
like the other components too. You need to add to it.
But I don't want to dorky test. No, no, no, no.
It's interesting you say that, though, Brady, because I can
remember and I can't. I can't remember. It was Charlie
or Josh, but this is probably sixty years ago talking
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about somebody about Brady, and they told me, like one
of the things that Brady had that like no one
talks about that, like, you know, like that that really
was a difference maker for him was his willingness to
hold onto the ball for an extra split second, you
know what I mean. Like, and I thought that was
so interesting because it was like his level of mental
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focus and his willingness to take a hit, Like the
fact that he was willing to, you know, stand in
there for that extra half second helps every other player
on the field, all of his teammates. It gives it
gives it gives a lineman more margin for error, It
gives the receivers an extra split second done cover. It
like makes a difference for everyone on the field. I
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think that's what you're talking about. Uh, sure, yeah, that's
part of it. I mean there's also a sense of
ignorance to this. Like I've always said that you want
your quarterback to be smart. We always we always think
we wanted to be like brainy acts, and the reality
is you really don't, because at some point in time,
you have to be ignorant enough to forget that you
might have just made a bad play, bad throw. You
have to be, you know, dumb enough to realize that
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you're going to put yourself through bodily harm while you
while you hold onto that football to a selet a
guy uncovered downfield. Like a lot of people who are
super intelligent would be like, oh, I'm not doing that.
I'm gonna throw this football away, or I'm gonna try
to you know, move get out of the way. And
but there's times when you can and you just have
to deal with the reality of I'm going to get
crushed so someone else can potentially make a play downfield.
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But I don't want to get hung up on this,
because there's a hang up on this. Jets packers trading,
come on, talk to you every week, when the hell
is this going to get done? I mean, I'm telling you, like,
and I've said this for a week and a half.
This thing could get done tomorrow. Um, you know, like
I think they are on the doorstep, and like, really
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what this comes down to? Um, as I see it,
I think they've got an agreement on the pick this year.
Like I think the pick this year there's a second
round pick as it stands right now. I think the
way the twenty twenty four pick looks is sort of
the hang up here, And is it a hard one?
Is it a one with conditions? What are those conditions?
Is they're a giveback in twenty five if Aaron Rodgers
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doesn't play in twenty four, Like, I think that's what
it is. And you know, I think part of it is,
you know, it's it's the Jets getting protections here, and
it's the Jets being protected against him only playing for
a year, And it's the Jets being protected against an
injury where they turn into you know what Denvers, Like,
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they get put in a situation like Denver's in right now,
where an injury turns next year's first round pick into
the fifth overall pick, you know what I mean? So,
like I think that that's sort of where we're at
right now, is that it's not going to be the
thirteenth overall pick, because I see it. I think it's
going to be a second round pick this year and
then it's going to be some sort of pick next year.
That's a high pick, But like, how do you dress
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that pick up in a way where the Packers can
walk away and say we didn't get pleased here in
dealing off you know, one of the greatest players in
the history of our franchise, if not the greatest player
in the history of our franchise. Um, Yeah, where we
can walk away and we can say we got good
value for him. So like, really, this is going to
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come down to what happens with that twenty four pick
and sign off on that is going to come from
ownership on the um on the on the Jet side,
and the president's office on the Packers side. Um. I
think the football people are have deals that they're amenable
to doing right now. Um. And you know Woody Johnson
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and Mark Murphy. I think it's going to come down
to those two finding a way where I would say,
like the optics of this look right for both franchises. Albert,
I'm not trying to jinx anything here, but your phone
has been flawless the past two weeks. I mean carrier
you get up phone would happen? No, no, no, no no.
I'm actually like I made the commitment after Actuel like
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the Hero steam up two weeks ago with my phone
to to uh to to actually do this on my
porch like that. So I it's the weather's nice throughout now.
I was like, I'm not gonna you know what, you
know what I'm gonna do. I'm I'm going to not
do it in my car. I'm gonna just kind of
sneak out of the house so the kids don't hear
me leave. I'm gonna keep the dog inside. The dog
(40:13):
is inside now, and I'm gonna sit on my porch.
Is you know, like I said, probably fifty fifty five
degrees out here now. The birds are chirping. It's not
winter anymore. Coffee. I don't have a cup of coffee.
I've got I've got a I got a wand I
just got the peloton and so I'm gonna go get
my seat. I normally would do would do the call
if you guys as I'm going to get my coffee,
(40:34):
but now I'm delaying getting my coffee to accommodate the
two of you. How do you like that? Okay? Can
I can I give you a peloton workout, not one
of those goofy ones. We have to watch the person
on the stream. This is this is what me and
my buddies do in the neighborhood. Okay, that doesn't matter
where you are, even though all pelotons are calibrated differently.
But twenty minutes, okay, twenty minutes. You crank it up
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on the highest resistance and you go, all right, you
stand up and you pedal for twenty minutes, no sitting down,
no breaks. You see how far you can go. So
I here's the problems I remember I had the how
do you set that? Though? How do you You just
started up on whatever workout you want completely, put a
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towel over the goofball on the screen, and you just
crank it up to the highest resistance and you go
for twenty minutes and then you and then then you
look at how far you went. So Focado did like
seven point eight seven, so almost you know seven point
nine yesterday, I think the record which is being contested,
and I had it because I did it in a
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peloton in La So all the guys back here are
ragged on me saying that it doesn't count that way.
I have to do it on this specific peloton bike
that most of the guys will will go to try to,
you know, cause the record, well, LA is less resistant overall.
I think, yeah, but I specific one specific bike. There's
one of our buddies has a Peloton, and I honestly
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think it needs to beat like service, like they need
to put everybody. Everybody's just going like Brambo on it
for twenty minute. I think I got like nine miles
in LA. They're like, Nope, doesn't count. Dude, you got
to do it on this bike here. We're like, no,
no one can get over eight because it's it's so
hard to pedal. But try that workout next time. Tell
me that doesn't get you. I think Albert gets to
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ten miles on that, so we crank it up. So
does it go up to ninety ninety nine the highest
resistance set A just a hunter buddy, I mean you
could crank that thing too. You can't even really move
the pedals like. That was actually my issues when I
when I did it on there. Initially. Okay, okay, so
you just throw a towel over, just ignore the guy
on the screen play your own music, probably right, and
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then pull the towel. Oh yeah, it's like it's like
a surprise when you get to see how far you
went exactly. Yeah right. I think they're great unveiling. I
think I think Albert's got it in him. I believe
that Albert Brier. Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier.
Congratulate him on the success of the new phone, the porch,
the ocean breeze, and new peloton workout that we was
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just handed out on the air. Albert, We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next week. All right, Thanks guys,
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It's the best of two pros and a couple of
joe When Lamar, Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks on Fox
Foorts Radio. Hey, by the way, Brady Quinn, the pride
of Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, you weren't kiding, man, there's some
footage on the Weather Channel right now. What the hell's
(00:22):
going on there? In seven hours yesterday we got almost
two feet of rain it. In fact, they take measurements
at the Hollywood four Ladder Hollywood Airport, and that is
the most rainfall they've got, uh in that amount of time,
let alone in a three day span. That literally surpassed
(00:45):
I think a record that was set in nineteen twenty
four for accumulation of rain over three days. So it was,
it was. It was unlike anything I've ever witnessed down here.
I was just trying to explain that too, um life
who didn't seem to understand what was happening. I said, Look,
we've been down here for almost fourteen years. I'm on
(01:06):
a place in South Florida. I've never seen it rain
consistently like this, and it's actually been raining for the
past three or four days. Had a technical issue yesterday
as I hopefully didn't didn't get noticed. But it's it's
been raining and then on top of it, it just
started pouring. And I mean, like anyone who's ever experienced
(01:26):
a tropical weather where you get like big things, big
sheets of rain. I mean not I mean a big old,
chubby drops of rain. You know, these aren't like it's
not like Seattle where it's a mist, you know, or
maybe in southern California you guys get just a little
bit of rain here and there, you know, just a
little bit of real half fare right now. Oh, these
are like big old fat boys of rain, like like
(01:48):
obese or oh yeah, I mean, I mean juicy j
But it happened. It happened so quick. People that I
tell some of our friends are talked to, were like
out trying to get dinner. They got stranded. I don't
even know how they got home because there was literally
three feet of water. I mean they were like, yeah,
(02:10):
we're stuck around the street. We have no way of
moving our car at this point. In some spots, like
the one restaurant they were going to try to go to,
had they actually valeated and went to the restaurant, their
car would have been floating down the street. So I'm
sure some of the cars that your friends draft could
transform into you know, hub or crafts got there. Fifty
(02:41):
just turned into a pontoon boat in the middle of nowhere.
How about that there was a guy actually swimming out
in the middle of the roads here during what would
have been considered rush hour. But I mean it was crazy.
I mean it's stopped now, um office, Sarah. Kids are
off school today because God forbid, God forbid, they actually
(03:01):
still be able to go to show. It's not even
like the school's fluttered or anything. God forbid they to
be able to fight through some adversity and actually have
school today. Now you're fat ass rain that you're dealing
with there, and this the measurements and the historic Yeah
it is stop. But I would so that record is
(03:22):
including tropical storms, hurricanes, all of that. This you're getting
out rained right now. You're beating hurricanes that have blown
through there. Yeah, so it's it's odd and I don't
know anything about weather, but my understanding is like they're
just continued to be a constant um storm over for Lauderdale.
(03:44):
Like throughout the course of the day, there was multiple
different wind conditions and the way the storms were coming
in and they just all continually sat on for Lauderdale
dumped rain for a period of time. I mean, the
airport was closed down, the planes that know where to go,
the people and cars an ago like there was. There
was water going into the baggage claim that's how high
(04:05):
the water got below. I mean it was. It was
just a crazy sceing there. I've never seen anything like
that what happened yesterday. Yeah, well that that sucks. It's
a rough situation, much like the playing tournament and the
nine ten matchups. Rough basketball with rough teams. I mean
competitive your bulls gat got through it. Competitive games. Whose bulls?
(04:28):
Not my bulls? Your bowls? No, not mine? Not a
bull That's where his wild RP is from me. You know, yeah,
he's a Boston fan for basketball. Well, but if we're
gonna be technical, one of those guys, wider over the
wide ERP is from. Did you guys know he's from Monmouth, Illinois.
Widerp western part of the state. You know, a two
hour train right outside of Chicago, near Gayalsburg. But again,
(04:48):
we're just talking Midwest stuff here. I mean that's what
we do on this show. But we had a couple
of nine ten matchups, which is ridiculous that a nine
or a ten seed would have an opportunity to even
make the postseason. But this is the NBA, this is
their playing tournament, and it sure did seem like in
the nightcap that was the Thunder and the Pelicans in
New Orleans. Sure seems like New Orleans could have use
(05:10):
Ion Williamson. I don't know what it was speaking of
Zion that it was probably most comparable to. It was
like Zion Williams. I'm just say, big old, big old
Zion drops of rain. It's um well for you to
say big old, useless drops of I don't know, that's
(05:34):
just what popped into my head right there in that moment.
You don't listen, um, I just feel like Jackson Smith
and Jim I mean Zion Williamson, who's been out with
a hamstring issue January. I'm sorry about that. I got
good confused there, but he's been out with this hamstring
issue since January. Take a listen to his reasoning why
(05:55):
he wasn't still available for a playing tournament game in
New Orleans last night. Here was Zion physically. I'm fine, Nah,
it's just a matter of when I feel like Zion, Um,
I know the atmosphere, i'd be interesting based off like
the playoff experience. So no matter when I feel like Zion,
(06:17):
what does that mean? I that would not land well
with me if I was a teammate, that would not.
But what does that mean? Like? And then he did it.
He went in third third person, like, what is that?
What does that mean? For twice? Feel like Zion? He
went third person twice? Yeah, yeah, it's there. Look I like.
(06:40):
I like Zion a lot and he was fun to
watch in college and rooting for him to have success
because everything you've heard is that he's a really good dude.
But this feels like mentally he's got to hang up
there because the foot that he had surgery on, he's
recovered from this is now a hamstring issue. And when
he says, I feel fine physically, but I don't feel
(07:02):
like I'm Zion in the atmosphere, I'm ntoring. I don't
feel like I would be conducive for where I'm at
at this point in my career and at this point
with this recovery which has already recovered, that to me
just wouldn't. When I said, well, he's a megastar. He's
clearly accomplished enough in the NBA where he could actually
take that approach to Wait, this is Durant. Wait hold on,
(07:24):
this isn't a steph Curry. Uh wait wait wait wait,
we're talking about Zion Williamson, right, like, not not one
of these guys who have had Hall of Fame pro
careers that may may actually be understood if they said
I need to feel like Kevin Durant today. You know,
I need to feel more like you know that guy.
(07:48):
I just think that that's it. Is it safe to
say there's a little bit of immaturity there and a
lack of awareness. You know, I've been I always teach
my kids that mentor and including my own kids, one
of the most important things you have to understand is
spatial awareness and understanding spatial awareness meaning like be someone
(08:14):
who understands what's going on with the room. Be aware
of what's going on around you and how you speak,
what you do. If you're walking in the middle of
the mall, don't just stop in the middle of the
walk away because you needed to stop and look at
your phone. Like spatial awareness. There's probably going to be
(08:35):
somebody walking behind you that might walk up into you
because you just stopped for no reason, same thing out
of the airport or whatever it may be. Understanding spatial
awareness gives you the opportunity and the ability to avoid
and avert any type of unnecessary, you know, conflict. And
(08:57):
in this situation, he didn't have awareness and the spatial
awareness of what his scenario is, what his real life
scenario is, which could very well be true that Zion
needs to feel more like Zion before he can play.
But you got to explain what that means, Like, explain
(09:19):
what that means because people people around you, you're I
don't know that they're reading that the right way, and
we didn't read it the right way. I'm certain a
lot of people aren't reading it the right way. I
know he's aware of the fact that people don't think
highly of him in terms of what his health is,
just based off of everything that's happened since he's been
(09:40):
in the league. You got to be able to answer
that question in a way where it holds you in
a favorable, favorable situation, is what I'll say. He just did.
He had no spatial awareness in this one, like know
who's around you, if you're talking to your friends and
your family, that's cool, but you're talking to the me
filling like Zion, it wasn't the proper That wasn't the
(10:04):
proper play if you asked me, Yeah, I just I
don't know, man. I think that his like this is,
like I said, a mental thing with him now it's
it's no longer the physical aspect of it. And it
could be some of the coverage he's got because people
have taken shots at him about his way about his
and so and so. Maybe that's you know, he's really
(10:25):
insecure about that. But at some point, either to me
just from the outside, you're either built for the criticism
or you're just not built for it. He may love basketball,
and he got his contract extension. I mean they gave
him almost what two hundred million dollars or something like
that a couple of months ago or last year. Rather,
I just the idea that he's physically ready to go,
(10:50):
but mentally, knowing what the playoffs and the atmosphere is,
doesn't feel like he's going to be Zion. If I'm
a teammate and I'm playing game eighty three of US
season after a long year and I'm trying to get
into the postseason. Hearing somebody say they're healthy but mentally
not ready to go, that would not sit well with
me at all at all. Yeah, I mean, you know,
(11:11):
there's always certain people who are hashtag built for this,
you know, Yeah, you just talking about it all the time,
shownas I look, I don't really have a strong stance
on this with Zion. I think you know, whether it's
a physical injury, whether it's a mental thing. You know,
it's been a while since, you know, we've really seen
him being an impactful player for a consistent period of time.
(11:35):
And the big internament from him coming out of Duke
was always his weight and weight management. I mean, look,
it's the NFL Draft just coming up. We said the
same thing about every big man. You know, Mozzi Smith, Hey,
if he keeps his weight under control, an Toniomafi, right,
he's a guard out of ucay Hey, he's great, good
player if he keeps his weight under control. Like every
big guy, that's always what you talk about, if they
keep their weight under control. And I'm sure that led
(11:58):
to this. I mean, a hamstring injury that lasted this long,
there's got to be a portion of it that involves
weight and then you get to a point where you
are back. But do you mentally feel like the zion
you you know, you feel like you can be or
that you've been paid to be, and there's there's so
many things that go to as a professional athlete. The
hard part is is when comments like this come out
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with their public, no one feels sorry for you. You
make a guarantee nine figures. I mean, it's just these
are better things left unsaid, at least to the media,
and and just move forward and get out there and
help your team the best you can. But I can
see if he's concerned about potentially getting in the way, like, hey,
I'm watching my team have a good rhythm, and now
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they want to put me back in there to interject.
Maybe I'm coming off the bench, maybe I'm not playing
as big of a role as I used to. But
that seems like you're paying a guy a lot of
money if that's the case. So it's it's a little
more complicated. Obviously, I'm sure that we're making it to be.
But as Jonah says it all the time, Jonas, I
mean someone you know, hashtag built for yeah, and those
who aren't you just get left to the side of
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the road. That's how this works. You know. It's like
the people last night in four Lauderdale. Some were built
to go get Valeid and get out of that restaurant,
and some weren't billed for it. Some people didn't realize
that car turn turned into a boat. Yeah, I mean,
LaVar said it transformers into boats quick. Be sure to
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Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays
at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio A. We do have some news
out of the NFL, though, We've always got some news
out of the NFL because somebody in the National Football
League has taken a stand. Somebody, Yeah, and that's somebody
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represents we are somebody, say Quon Barkley, it's taking a stand.
He is not going to sign his franchise tender before
the offseason program begins on Monday. Now, the franchise tag,
if he were to sign, it, pays him a little
over ten million dollars for the upcoming season, and sources
have told ESPN a couple of months ago that Barkley
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was looking for a deal around fourteen million dollars a
year that that would be suffice for him to return
to the New York Giants long term. But apparently, as
it stands right now, the franchise tag and the ten
million dollars in change, that's not enough. He's taken a
sand stand and he's not signing that bad boy stand
in sand. Yeah, sa Quon Barkley talking about here, and
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he's got a ton of leverage. Good cue. That's funny.
That was that was sarcasm. Well, I was just say
it's so just so people understand the situation he is.
He has had the non exclusive franchise tag slapped on him. Um,
and that means obviously, much like Lamar Jackson we've talked about,
other teams could submit a long term deal and and
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then the Giants would have to match, so that that
that situation still exists even in the case of sa
Quon Barkley. Um, You're you're obviously not gonna You're not
gonna get that for a running back. It's been a
really hard off season for running backs. They're just not
utilized or valued the way they used to be, So
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you have to understand why he's frustrated and why he's
taking this stance at the at the very you know,
I guess edge or close to the beginning of the
NFL off season where this whole deadline ensued. You know,
they thought Daniel Jones was going to be one that
got the tag and they weren't gonna be able to
get a long term deal done with him. But in
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the last hour, the Giants hammered out a long term
deal Daniel Jones that freed them up to use the
tag on say Quon Barkley, And that's how we got here.
So say Quon and his crew were thinking, all right,
we're gonna get free agency to find a long term
deal with an organization that you know wants to sign
you know me too that and believes in me. And
so once that switched, I'm sure he was a bit
salty about it. And so even though he makes a
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pretty good amount, I think he believes he could have
made more in as signing bonus and short term by
being able to sign a long term deal with whoever
else out there and free agent. And he's probably not wrong,
But even then he's not going to be able to
maximize what he's capable of making, and he could play
two three years under the tag. That's probably about as
good as money as he's gonna make right now as
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a running back. But the general point is that I
think he's frustrated with how that all worked out, obviously
for Daniel Jones's benefit, but not for his. I mean,
if you're thinking of it this way, I imagine that,
like a teammate gets his extension, you don't get yours,
and you get slapped the franchise tax. You gotta hang
around a place for another year that doesn't have the
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long term plans of using you. I mean, yeah, you
get paid well for it. But he was gonna get
paid well regardless this year if he had free agency.
So I think there's some frustration on his side of
all this. And the only thing I don't like about
not signing the tag is, let's say, for example, you know,
he gets injured at some point in time walking to
go pick up a pizza in New York. He's not
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getting that money. Like, until you sign that a franchise tag,
it's not guaranteed to you. So I I mean, you do.
You have until July fifteenth to negotiate a longer term
deal with the Giants, and I would go sign it
right away just to have protection versus any of that stuff.
You know. Well, I was if there's a big flood
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that happens in New York City and you get whisked away,
and you know, in whatever car you run into something.
I mean, I just there's all crowdings of crazy scenarios.
It's almost like taking out an insurance policy on yourself.
Like you know, once you sign that, you're guaranteed to it,
that that organization has to own up to it and
honor it. So I would go sign it knowing that
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our real deadline now for long term deals July, and
if they don't want to, you know, if they don't
want to agree to it, all right, or a long
term deal like so be it. I gotta play out
this year and I gotta look into next year and
I'll get paid a little bit more into the tag
if they do it again, or I'll try to hit
free agency because you can't go to leaving on bell
route that doesn't help you, and and doing this like
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you kind of subject yourself to a bit of risk.
I've seen guys signed the franchise tag and they come
in and they don't do anything in the off season.
They come up for off season workouts, the workouts, stay
in shape, they're not practicing, and there's nothing wrong. There's
there's no reason to say why he can't do that
if he wanted to do that. I'm curious not signing
the tag. That doesn't mean that the other teams can.
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They can't act as though he's not signed under the tag.
They've already assigned that to him. Correct, right, what's the
matter he's still has whether he signs that are not
right now, it doesn't matter. Another team would have to
go through the compensation of what that that tag represents.
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What what is that compensation for a running back for?
But I'm saying if if, if, if they were to,
if another team were to come in and do a
deal with say Quon, that that the Giants could match.
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Is that purely what it is. It's not it's not like, uh,
you got to give up first round draft picks and
stuff like that for compensation. It's just more or less
they offered say Quon more than or offered him a contract.
Say Quan says, I like the contract, I don't like
the contract. If he does like the contract, then the
Giants get an opportunity to match it. That's correct, correct, Yeah.
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The one thing when Josh Norman got franchise tagged by
Carolina and then they removed the tag and he ended
up signing a long term deal with Washington UM And
I don't know if that's just because they couldn't they
couldn't agree on anything, and they said, screw it. If
you want to go elsewhere, you can go elsewhere. I
don't know did Carolina get any compensation for that in
return for him signing anywhere. I don't think they did. No,
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not if you were sending the tag. Yeah, and so
the Giants could always do that during the during this period.
I guess that'd be one way of going about it.
But why would you you why would you send the
tag at this point You've got a really good player
that you obviously want to keep around. You're trying to
explain to them, Hey, we want to we want to
hammer out a long term deal with you two, and
we just got to figure out how to make the
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money work. I mean, I just there's there's usually by
the way, I don't know what Josh Norman ended up
making that year, but I would assume it's better when
you can hang around longer in one spot. And for
say Quon, he makes a lot of money in the
New York media market. I mean that's the number one marketing,
number one market in the country. You risk a bit
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of that too. Let's say you go to a smaller market,
obscure market. You're not making quite as many dollars off
the field. For someone like say Quon, who's a good
looking dude, who's a great player, that's something to take
into account. I mean you really should in that event,
because you know he's going to be able to make
some of the money up at least in marketing in
New York. You can't see that in some of the
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other markets. Josh Norman got five years, seventy five million,
with thirty six and a half million fully guaranteed, fifty
million in guarantees total. So how much did you actually
make off that deal though? I mean, I don't know.
Thirty six and a half million, I don't know, that's
the guarantees. It's twenty sixteen, so I don't think he
lived out the lifetime of the contract. No, he didn't.
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And then Derek Hanny made thirty six plus he had
a couple more years, so he had have made it
about fifty on that deal. For twenty sixteen and then
and then twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen he played for
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What do you get when you combine a three time
Manager of the Year at a three time National Sports
Writer of the Year. It's the Book of Joe Podcast. Hey,
this is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network and
Sports Illustrated, and I'm Joe Madden, and we're gonna be
around to talk a little bit about manage real decisions,
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maybe in the nineteen eighties. I can't wait for this, Joe.
We're gonna dive into what goes on in the dugout
and behind the scenes in Major League Baseball, Car's wind,
whatever else we want to talk about. Listen to the
Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts right now. We turn
it over to the man himself, Albert Breer, senior NFL
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reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. Albert, what the hell's happening? And how's
your Thursday? I hope you're not talking about me. I'm
not the one pissed off my own organization, am I? Noh?
Are you? But but I am. I'm a little bit
upset with Albert. I feel like he was stand backing
us for a couple of months here. I mean, so,
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so last week you dropped that you believe in talking
to people because Bryce Young took like, you know, the
modified SAT test, whatever the hell it's called, yes to s.
This is what I say, because you know what Alper
Breer did. He comes on the air and says, you know,
I'm hearing that it's gonna be Bryce Young, and I'm thinking,
wait a second. All of the odds are saying, c J. Stroud,
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there's plus money on Bryce Young. And in a matter
of a week, the odds have completely flipped and now
Bryce Young is a three sixty? Is Albert brier line? Mover?
Come on, you move the line single handedly last week
and you given us the heads up of you were
going to do that, we could have gotten good money
on this. Well, you guys gotta be better listeners. Then
maybe you guys should should have taken what I was saying,
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and well, hold on, hold on, don't see you guys
just blame Jonas because I've got hey, by the way,
before you start, Hey, honestly, before you get start braids,
everything all right down there? It looks like I mean, Mike,
I was like sort of wondering if you're even good
beyond to day. Like, no, it's it's it's a valid question.
I really appreciate you asking, Albert. I slept last night
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at scuba suit. Outside of that, we're good, you know.
Outside of that. I mean I literally put on the
flippers snorkels for our kids and I said, hey, guys,
just remember, breathe through that. Don't don't don't try to
breathe through your nose, breathe through your mouth. Okay, Outside
of that, were great. Yeah, all right, It's just I mean,
like some of the stuff he's see on social media,
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my holy crap. Yeah no, there was you know, look
it hit fast. I was explaining to people, Um, there
was more rain in a seven hour period than there
has ever been in Fort Lauderdale over a three day
span dating back in nineteen twenty four. So it was
a historic rain. And of course, as I sit here
and talk to you now, the sun is out, it
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looks beautiful outside, and of course my kids are not
going to school today. There you go. Well, I mean
like now, and Brady, I know you guys don't deal
with snow days anymore, but they call like snow days
like two days ahead of time, like now appear. It's unbelievable.
Like you remember what it used to be like you
used to wake up, you'd wake up, you'd wake up
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at seven am and be like watching the local news,
like hoping your school district would come across the bottom
crawl there, you know what I mean, It's so true.
That was that was the bottom crawl was like, that
was where it started. And the ESPN I think only
realize like, oh wait, we should probably do this with
with our outlay. Yeah, that's exactly where the call started,
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is like, And it was always alphetical order. So it
was heartbreaking when like you'd see, like you figure it out,
like the two schools that just passed years would have
been in between the two of them. I always I
always thought it was interesting when like you had a
neighboring school that was and yours wasn't yours? Off. Yeah yeah,
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I mean listen, a lot of people are are pretty
pissed off. And those people would be the New York
Jets who apparently thought Odell Beckham Junior was going to
be arriving for a visit Albert and so now he's
a Baltimore Raven and so now him and Lamar Jackson
are dodging the fatass rain drops in Florida at a
party at Live Nightclub and celebrate the new deal. Could
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we be on the verge of a piece a peaceful
resolution between Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens? Is that
war staring at um? I don't think, like, you know,
I don't think that this like assures anything, but I
certainly think that you can't help it can't hurt, you know,
so um. You know, like basically, the way I look
at like the Odell situation is you guys, remember like
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on when back when, like the eBay and all the
auction sites, you could go like there's at this by
now thing on it. You know what? I mean, like
where you could pay a certain prices to take something
off the market. Right. I feel like that's what the
Ravens did with with Odell, you know, like that they
paid a premium price to go and get him and
to prevent him from going and visiting the Jets, And like,
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I think they'd be naive to think they didn't do
that without thinking of the effect that it could have
on the Lamar negotiation. Now, Um, you know, you guys know,
like this has been a complicated negotiation. Um, There's been offers,
there's been counter offers. Like I think that there is
a genuine desire on both sides to get something done,
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and there has been for a long time. And the
trade request is sort of I think a signal of
how sideways everything got and how fundamentally a part the
two sides have been at points in all of this.
I think part of the issue that the Ravens have
had is because Lamar's waited for five years. He wants
to win on every front. He wants to win on term,
he wants to win on average per year, he wants
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to win on total dollars. He wants to win on
every single front. Guarantees all of it, and they've been
trying to get him to compromise and come to their
side at least a little bit because of this sort
of precedent was set with other players, and so that's
sort of where the push and pull has been. And
like I view the Odell thing as feeling a need.
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I mean, they had a very legitimate need at receiver,
and this gives them a little bit more flexibility going
into the draft and how they use their capital and
everything else. But I certainly think a piece of it
is an alive branch to to Lamar Jackson and saying listen,
like we're not planning on starting over with a new quarterback.
We're planning on going all in on you, and we're
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going to do what we can to win in the
here and the now, and here's a symbol of that,
and going and probably overpaying a little bit for a
guy who's got a very high ceiling still even at
you know, almost thirty one years old, and you know,
if it works, I think you can say it was
worth it to do it, to pay a little bit
more for Odell Beckham. If that means it's gonna lead
to some sort of piece treaty with Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
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I mean, look, you already saved what twelve million by
not putting the exclusive franchise tag more, and so you
can use some of that to overspend on Odell, and
if it saves you from giving him a two hundred
and thirty million plus fully guaranteed deal, that it's good
money spent. I mean, at the end of the day,
I want to transition though, and just peel back the curtain,
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all right, because Albert's one of the guys that I
love and trust, and obviously we're lucky we have on
our show every week, and we have some conversations off air,
and there's one that you know, I'll just I'll ask
you and see how you respond to this. But I
was saying, it's it's been odd to me the Texans
who have two picks in the top what twelve of
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the draft? They people keeping people that I respect and
have done this for a while, keep doing mocks without
a quarterback taking in the first round for Houston, and
it's it's hard for me to even I even think
that that's a possibility. However, the people who are doing
these mocks, it's not just doing it to do it.
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They do a good job. They know what they're doing,
they have you know, inside sources, and it led me
to ask Albert, what is up with this? Is there
a real chance Houston's going to sit there and not
take a quarterback with either one of those two first
round picks. I think that, well, I'm less certain on
the second one. You know, on the first one. I
think that there is a real discussion point in the
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room right now, and I think, you know, part of
it is where the two guys in charge are coming from,
and the fact that the two guys in charge haven't
worked together before. You know, Nick as Sario and Damiko
Ryan's and if you look, you know, and you want
to get Nicks STEREO's history. He's been in the league
for twenty three years I think now, and he's never
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taken a quarterback higher than sixty second overall, and that
was Jimmy Garoppolo. And then you know, you look at
Demiko and Demiko has been coaching in the league for
six years now. And in San Francisco, they spent one
first round pick on a quarterback and that was Trey
Lance and they wound up getting into the NFC Championship
game three times with two quarterbacks who weren't Trey Lance.
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So like, I think both guys have like this basis
where they can say, if we're not head over heels
in love with one of these guys, would we be
better off with Tyree Wilson or would be would we
be that better off with Will Anderson? Would we be
better off with a defensive player who can be a
real difference maker for us? And Demiko has the example
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of Nick Bosa, you know, from four years ago, where
he can say, like, I know how to build I
know how to build that sort of team, you know,
And so you know, I think it's a real discussion point.
I think ownership is going to have a heavy hand
in this too. An ownership has waited, and you know,
I think there are different things at work with c J. Stroud,
you know, the Anthony Richardson thing is out there too.
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Of course, I think that'd be a reach, you know,
based on talking to other teams. But you know, obviously
the ceiling is very high there. And look like I
think if Bryce Young wered a slide from one to two,
I think it becomes academic and take Texans, just take them,
you know, And and I think that that would be
their guy. But if Bryce goes number one overall, like
I think he probably will, the Carolina you know, I
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think that there's you know, I think that's where the
debate is right now in that room. Not that they
won't have that decide in two weeks from now, but
I think that's where the debate is right now in
that room. And I'm not sure that they have a
final decision on whether or not they go quarterback in
the event that Young's not there for them. So it
felt like Albert Breer, by the way, joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. So it felt like,
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you know, when we talked about the odds and we're
kind of kidding back and forth, but it almost seemed
like Houston was going to sit there at two, and
if you believed all the buzz about CJ. Stroud at one,
that you know, Bryce Young was going to fall in
their lap. So there's a real chance it's either Bryce
Young or nobody else for them, and that they see
a clear difference between CJ. Strout and Bryce Young. If
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that's the case, why do you think that's the case
in Houston, I would say, you know, I think part
of it is Bryce's makeup and that's I think to
both Tamiko and to Nick, despite the fact that they
come from different backgrounds, I think one thing they have
in common is that makeup and the quarterbacks really important
and like Bryce is a plus plus, you know, like
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everything you hear about, like how Bryce's meetings have gone. Um,
you know, we mentioned the S two tests last year
last week, you know, coming from Nick Saban's program, what's
coming out of that program? I mean, like you'd have
a hard time finding anybody to say anything negative on
Bryce Young that doesn't have to deal with a hiders
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white and so like I think that that you know,
like just having faith in what you're buying into is
a big part of it, you know, CJ. I think
there have been some maturity issues and there's some things
that you have to work through there with him, you know,
and like his meetings haven't been perfect, and there are
other things that you can knock him for, um, And
you know, I think he answered a lot of the
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on field questions against Georgia. You know, how athletic is he,
how creative is he, How how willing is he to
run and put his body on the line all that, Like,
he answered a lot of it against Georgia. But the
question is is that a flash or is that something
that's just you know, a kid growing up and turning
the corner. Those are all the questions the teams are
going through a CJ strout. So I just think, um,
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I think CJ's got a you know, a really really
good skill set, has a chance to be probably a
top ten quarterback in the NFL based on the physical ability.
The question is would make up? And you have none
of those questions with Rice Young? Yeah, all because of
the S two test. But we'll get into um when
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the hell Roger you should take it? You know what?
I actually went online after you mentioned it and I
was like, I want to take this. I really want
to do this, and uh I honestly, yeah, which show
we all want to do? I would love Jonas to
do it. I would love to, said Jonas, well, we
don't know that Shona maybe a quarterback. Yeah, maybe maybe
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he will show us. Yeah, I'm gonna go out on
a limit. Say it doesn't matter what the S two
test tells us. There was no chance I was ever
going to be a quarterback, So it evaluates the cognitive
abilities in game situations, so the players understand the level
of their instinct Yeah I'm gonna fail this miserably, anticipation, reading, reacting,
and adapting to the game, or now measurable skills. Brady,
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here's the Yeah, here's the thing that I don't like
about putting so much weight into a computer program like this.
It's it's one metric, it's one measurement. Yeah, you know what,
this doesn't factor in and they need to adjust this
A three hundred pound defensive lineman trying to hit you
while doing it. That changes it a little bit. Like
if they had this S two program and they had
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someone with a hammer who was literally standing next to
you and he's going to smash your hand if you
got it wrong. That would probably be the equivalent of
that sort of pressure that you feel when you're actually playing.
That's the only problem is it's just one baseline measurement
that's not applicable. But really playing quarterback, right, there's a
lot of things that Yeah, mentally, how you process that's
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part of it, But then how you process it and
throw the football and get your body where it needs
to be and then handle the pressure getting hit. That's
like the other components too. You need to add to it.
But I don't want to dorky test. No, no, no, no.
It's interesting you say that, though, Brady, because I can
remember and I can't. I can't remember. It was Charlie
or Josh, but this is probably sixty years ago talking
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about somebody about Brady, and they told me, like one
of the things that Brady had that like no one
talks about that, like, you know, like that that really
was a difference maker for him was his willingness to
hold onto the ball for an extra split second, you
know what I mean. Like, and I thought that was
so interesting because it was like his level of mental
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focus and his willingness to take a hit, Like the
fact that he was willing to, you know, stand in
there for that extra half second helps every other player
on the field, all of his teammates. It gives it
gives it gives a lineman more margin for error, It
gives the receivers an extra split second done cover. It
like makes a difference for everyone on the field. I
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think that's what you're talking about. Uh, sure, yeah, that's
part of it. I mean there's also a sense of
ignorance to this. Like I've always said that you want
your quarterback to be smart. We always we always think
we wanted to be like brainy acts, and the reality
is you really don't, because at some point in time,
you have to be ignorant enough to forget that you
might have just made a bad play, bad throw. You
have to be, you know, dumb enough to realize that
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you're going to put yourself through bodily harm while you
while you hold onto that football to a selet a
guy uncovered downfield. Like a lot of people who are
super intelligent would be like, oh, I'm not doing that.
I'm gonna throw this football away, or I'm gonna try
to you know, move get out of the way. And
but there's times when you can and you just have
to deal with the reality of I'm going to get
crushed so someone else can potentially make a play downfield.
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But I don't want to get hung up on this,
because there's a hang up on this. Jets packers trading,
come on, talk to you every week, when the hell
is this going to get done? I mean, I'm telling you, like,
and I've said this for a week and a half.
This thing could get done tomorrow. Um, you know, like
I think they are on the doorstep, and like, really
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what this comes down to? Um, as I see it,
I think they've got an agreement on the pick this year.
Like I think the pick this year there's a second
round pick as it stands right now. I think the
way the twenty twenty four pick looks is sort of
the hang up here, And is it a hard one?
Is it a one with conditions? What are those conditions?
Is they're a giveback in twenty five if Aaron Rodgers
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doesn't play in twenty four, Like, I think that's what
it is. And you know, I think part of it is,
you know, it's it's the Jets getting protections here, and
it's the Jets being protected against him only playing for
a year, And it's the Jets being protected against an
injury where they turn into you know what Denvers, Like,
(38:25):
they get put in a situation like Denver's in right now,
where an injury turns next year's first round pick into
the fifth overall pick, you know what I mean? So,
like I think that that's sort of where we're at
right now, is that it's not going to be the
thirteenth overall pick, because I see it. I think it's
going to be a second round pick this year and
then it's going to be some sort of pick next year.
That's a high pick, But like, how do you dress
(38:47):
that pick up in a way where the Packers can
walk away and say we didn't get pleased here in
dealing off you know, one of the greatest players in
the history of our franchise, if not the greatest player
in the history of our franchise. Um, Yeah, where we
can walk away and we can say we got good
value for him. So like, really, this is going to
(39:07):
come down to what happens with that twenty four pick
and sign off on that is going to come from
ownership on the um on the on the Jet side,
and the president's office on the Packers side. Um. I
think the football people are have deals that they're amenable
to doing right now. Um. And you know Woody Johnson
(39:27):
and Mark Murphy. I think it's going to come down
to those two finding a way where I would say,
like the optics of this look right for both franchises. Albert,
I'm not trying to jinx anything here, but your phone
has been flawless the past two weeks. I mean carrier
you get up phone would happen? No, no, no, no no.
I'm actually like I made the commitment after Actuel like
(39:52):
the Hero steam up two weeks ago with my phone
to to uh to to actually do this on my
porch like that. So I it's the weather's nice throughout now.
I was like, I'm not gonna you know what, you
know what I'm gonna do. I'm I'm going to not
do it in my car. I'm gonna just kind of
sneak out of the house so the kids don't hear
me leave. I'm gonna keep the dog inside. The dog
(40:13):
is inside now, and I'm gonna sit on my porch.
Is you know, like I said, probably fifty fifty five
degrees out here now. The birds are chirping. It's not
winter anymore. Coffee. I don't have a cup of coffee.
I've got I've got a I got a wand I
just got the peloton and so I'm gonna go get
my seat. I normally would do would do the call
if you guys as I'm going to get my coffee,
(40:34):
but now I'm delaying getting my coffee to accommodate the
two of you. How do you like that? Okay? Can
I can I give you a peloton workout, not one
of those goofy ones. We have to watch the person
on the stream. This is this is what me and
my buddies do in the neighborhood. Okay, that doesn't matter
where you are, even though all pelotons are calibrated differently.
But twenty minutes, okay, twenty minutes. You crank it up
(40:56):
on the highest resistance and you go, all right, you
stand up and you pedal for twenty minutes, no sitting down,
no breaks. You see how far you can go. So
I here's the problems I remember I had the how
do you set that? Though? How do you You just
started up on whatever workout you want completely, put a
(41:17):
towel over the goofball on the screen, and you just
crank it up to the highest resistance and you go
for twenty minutes and then you and then then you
look at how far you went. So Focado did like
seven point eight seven, so almost you know seven point
nine yesterday, I think the record which is being contested,
and I had it because I did it in a
(41:37):
peloton in La So all the guys back here are
ragged on me saying that it doesn't count that way.
I have to do it on this specific peloton bike
that most of the guys will will go to try to,
you know, cause the record, well, LA is less resistant overall.
I think, yeah, but I specific one specific bike. There's
one of our buddies has a Peloton, and I honestly
(41:59):
think it needs to beat like service, like they need
to put everybody. Everybody's just going like Brambo on it
for twenty minute. I think I got like nine miles
in LA. They're like, Nope, doesn't count. Dude, you got
to do it on this bike here. We're like, no,
no one can get over eight because it's it's so
hard to pedal. But try that workout next time. Tell
me that doesn't get you. I think Albert gets to
(42:20):
ten miles on that, so we crank it up. So
does it go up to ninety ninety nine the highest
resistance set A just a hunter buddy, I mean you
could crank that thing too. You can't even really move
the pedals like. That was actually my issues when I
when I did it on there. Initially. Okay, okay, so
you just throw a towel over, just ignore the guy
on the screen play your own music, probably right, and
(42:40):
then pull the towel. Oh yeah, it's like it's like
a surprise when you get to see how far you
went exactly. Yeah right. I think they're great unveiling. I
think I think Albert's got it in him. I believe
that Albert Brier. Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier.
Congratulate him on the success of the new phone, the porch,
the ocean breeze, and new peloton workout that we was
(43:01):
just handed out on the air. Albert, We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next week. All right, Thanks guys,
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