April 26, 2023 • 47 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Panthers have reached a consensus for the No 1 pick but could it be Will Levis who has jumped in the odds? Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson have their 5th year options exercised. It’s the end of an era with franchise QB’s sticking with one team for their entire career. The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the guys to talk about the elimination of the Clippers, Roberto yelling in his ear and the circus that is the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple. Joel
Arrington rating Win and Jonas Knox on Box.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, The Hell's going on on a Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
VARs back many. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I didn't want to be gone, believe you me. But
you know, things happen.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey, we got you got the place, man.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm back in. Shake City is a place, and so
I heard LeVar Islands. Yeah, it's a drink.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Have we made Have we made any movement on that
so far?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm on, let's go eleven ingredients.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
My people at Zimbi's here in Harrisburg have now officially
adopted LeVar Islands on on their menu, So next time
I'm here, they'll they'll be called LeVar Islands instead of
Long Islands.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now do you have to add in an ingredient in there?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yes, there's a secret ingredient. Okay, Yes, I'll tell you
guys off.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Age very good, all right, So I just want to
want to make sure that we that we we're aware
of what's happening there.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, I'll let you know.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, because I can't tell you what's inside of Long Island,
but I'm hoping to tell you what's inside of LeVar Island.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
We So the conversation now becomes as we fast approach
the NFL Draft, which LeVar.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Arrington will be a part of here at Fox Sports
Radio Draft Night Live here in right. We're coming up
tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
But the conversation becomes, what's the plan at number one
for the Carolina Panthers. Everybody assumes it's going to be
Bryce Young. The betting odds would indicate as much. Frank Reich,
the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, spoke yesterday to
the media and he was asked how he and GM
Scott Fitterer feel about the selection at number one and
(01:53):
sort of where their ideas as far as where the
franchise goes Tomorrow night at eight Eastern time. Have you
guys talked about that and if you've come to consensus yet?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
He did.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
He actually saided he came in my office yesterday at
some point and asked the question, you know, it's kind
of like a proposal of source, you know, And I said, yes, no,
there's consensus and we're excited.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Who is it.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
We'll announce that Thursday at about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So funny, man, the media is so funny.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
What they do, all right, so so it's gonna be
been awesome. Though, what's that if he had just said it,
I mean it would have been that would have been
crazy awesome, like.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like you just slip it out, or if he just said.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It, no, just say it, like if he'd have just
just been just bodacious with it, like you're you're now
bringing your guy in with a ton of confidence. You know,
you got the city excited, like it's like, we're committed
to this guy. Like and I mean, listen, I'm I'm
saying it because I'm just like thinking, when do you
you you will never hear that ever happen. So imagine
(03:02):
if somebody just was like they asked, we've got the
number one draft pick, they're coming here, and just say it,
Like can you imagine what people's faces would have been
if he'd have just been like, yep, this is who
we're taking. Like I don't know, Like sometimes I feel
like if you, if you're that guy that shakes things up,
you know, the reaction would be interesting. The you know,
(03:24):
the folklore connected to you would would start and begin
and be created. I mean, Carolina, they could use something
like that, you know what I mean? Why not just
say it. Just drop the drop the bomb. Let's just
drop it. Yeah, just drop it. We're going to confirm
it at eight o'clock on Thursday night. But here's who
we're taking, and we're going to be great.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
The interesting thing is they are allowed to, you know,
whoever Carolina wants to take. I mean, they can kind
of start that negotiation process. They can get have a playbook.
I mean, when you have the first overall pick, you
can do whatever you want. I've said this before. A
lot of people think they've kind of wait until Thursday.
That's not the case. They really can essentially make their
selection and start working towards getting that contract done as
(04:07):
soon as the selection's made. So in theory, they could
be negotiating this week and then once the pick is made, boom,
contract side, he's in. You don't have to worry about anything,
hold out, none of that stuff, not that it would
be a holdout, but not agree to terms. I'm not
sure what to make of the will Levis line movement.
(04:27):
I mean, are we really basing this off of Reddit post?
What do you mean that something that information came from?
I mean, what ultimately swung the odds?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Are you talking about the former Penn State Nitney line
will will Levis, who is climbing the draft charts as
far as the betting odds go. Now all of a
sudden second to be picked according to the odds and
our friends at DraftKings and other reputable sports books who
are saying will live it, will Levis could be the
guy sitting at plus four point fifty. You know you're
(04:56):
not buying into this. You know there's validity to this
based on a Reddit post? Then come on, this is
fun United not totally into will Levis going number one overall.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Now, well, look that's Carolina's prerogative. I'm just saying we
base this off a Reddit post. That is that where
we're at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's how we move lines.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Now, Anonymous Bryce Young is still the favorite.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Yes, okay, I mean so other than one, yeah, other
than this line movement.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We really don't know what to make of this.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
But I'll say this, only Carolina knows they're not gonna
let the cat out of the Backs the Roger Cadell
in the NFL, would you know, slap them on the
wrist for that. But I just I'm not sure what
to make of it. I don't, you know, I'm not
sure if it's it's maybe someone within his group trying
to help improve the perception because he's been knocked down
(05:49):
a lot throughout the course of the evaluation process. You know,
I see people talking about how CJ. Stroud's taking a hit.
I mean, gosh, I guess you know what, I have
him going number two overall, I guess that's that's really
someone's really trying to knock him down a peg. Where
where Levis has been talked about is not even being
that the first, second or third quarterback taken. People talk
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about him maybe being the fourth quarterback taken because of
his film and how things look this year, and you
know his physique, right, do we go.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On a while talking about two?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Jack does?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
So.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
I'm not sure what to make of it, but it
at least leads in a little intrigue, because I feel
like this has been a bad secret for a pat
in the past couple of weeks, with Bryce Young going
number one, we've all.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Said, hey, the draft starts at number two.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
But this creates a little bit of intrigue, I guess,
leading up to what could be a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Tomorrow night, and for those of you that are not
familiar the odd move. The odds changed there for will
Levis to go number one overall is because this anonymous
Reddit user put up a post yesterday that said that
will Levis has told friends and family that Carolina is
going to sell him number one overall, that he's going
to go to Carolina and be a part of the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
So ask you guys a question, what what what does
this mean?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
How should this be interpreted? Let's just say for the
sake of saying, if will Levis goes number one, like,
is that is that a you know what what is that?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
How?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
How do how how should that be viewed?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
I think they just it shows you that the betting
offs they have no clue what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, you Bryce Young ten to one, and then
the books.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Somehow messed us up where will Lepis goes number one
at what plus four hundred plus five hundred and plus
four fifty? Yeah, it depends on the book. I mean
we we only look at draft Gicksam right, it's somewhere
which with you. Yeah, That's what I would take away
from it, is like even Vegas has no clue what
they're doing. If that's how far off they were from
(07:51):
Bryce Young going number one to Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I mean, and also, I think that this show has
a vested interest in will Lepis going number one over all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All right, and let me explain.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Because it really does bring all three of us together
if Will Levis is the guy, because he did go
to Penn State.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
He did.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He then transferred to Kentucky, which Brady Quinn's good friend
the meat Wagon diehard Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Football and played football there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean that too.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I mean, listen, I mean, that's debatable whether that's deeper
than the meat Wagon's connection, but I mean there's the
kanecky Is Kentucky tie there, and then he's jacked like me.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So I feel like we've got.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
All everybody's represented in the Will Levis food group here,
and we've all got a vested interest in him going
number one overall. And he did score pretty high on
that S nine test or whatever they're calling that.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
C J.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Stroud apparently bombed and has been leaked to.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
The media now, so so maybe the feeling is, well,
if he's not that far off on that test when
it comes to Bryce Young, maybe we'll just side with
the guy who's six ' four six ' five and tore.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Up like a bad report card.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Maybe that's the direction the Carolina Panthers go with quarterback
get number one overall.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
You know what was odd is the guy who invented
the test. I forget his last name, but he came
out said, oh, so those inaccurate wouldn't say which ones,
but so those test scores are inaccurate. It's like, come on, dude,
like you knew this would be leaked out. You probably
don't want to create a fuss. And much like how
the Wonderlick was controversial at some point, now he's worried
(09:26):
about his test being controversial.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's just not everyone could have done well in it.
That's why that stuff gets leaked.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
And that's okay, Like we can admit that maybe your
test isn't the most accurate. It's got some flaws to it.
Like you don't need to go on and to say
I know everyone did great, everyone did great. There's just
a few inaccurate scores that got leaked.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
There have been some people who have acknowledged after the
fact that maybe something they designed or put together hasn't
been the most effective in recent memory, so some people
have done that.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Look, this is better than the Wonderlick, which was a
standardized it has nothing to do with football. This is
at least a little closer to something I guess. But
I mean it's okay. We can admit the test isn't perfect.
It's not football. We get that. You know, film ultimately
is what dictates where these young men will be be taken.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's why I'm a I'm.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
A huge proponent thinking that regardless of the odds, regardless
of what people think, CJ. Stroud will go somewhere number
two overall, but he's not getting past the top four.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just have a hard side believe in that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And meanwhile, Anthony Richardson is just kind of sitting out
there and who knows, maybe Seattle at five looks at
you know, maybe taking a quarterback high up. When are
they going to be in the spot again? But Anthony
Richardson just kind of floating out there. LaVar, how far
before you got taken number two by Washington? Did you
know you were going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
The night before? But it was different. I mean, I mean,
maybe it's still the same in terms of knowing where
you're going to go, but I was in contact with
with Washington the day before. So, but I was also
in contact with Cleveland the day before. And it's as
as the story you know has it, Cleveland called to
(11:09):
do the deal with me to go number one, but
I told them I needed a quarterback, a quarterback contract
to commit to going to Cleveland. So they're like, so
they were like, well, you're not. So you're saying you're
not going to be signable, and I'm saying, I'm saying
that I'm coming to Cleveland and I may never get
another opportunity to get a payday coming to Cleveland, so
(11:32):
I need to know that you guys are going to
compensate me like a quarterback. And then they were like, okay,
well we'll we'll call you back, and then they you know,
they call Courtney up. Then I ended up talking to Courtney.
I told Courtney, you know, negotiate hard. I'm not going
to negotiate with Cleveland, and and so that was kind
of how that that played out. And then I had
(11:52):
the same kind of conversation with with Washington because if
you were called, they had the number two and number
three overall pick. So they were basically asking are you
going to be signable, because if you're, if we're going
to have any problems with you know, getting your contract done,
there's the possibility that we could actually take you at
three just to take away some of your negotiating power
(12:17):
in the scenario instead of taking me at two. So
so yeah, I was in conversations with them the night
before and then who I was going.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And then all those years later, you could have been
paired up with Brady Quinn. You guys could have been
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think I don't know what year did you come in?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh seven?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
No, I was retired, Yeah, yeah, but I think you
like playing with him would have made you want to
stick around longer.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
That's what I wouldn't have been able to play with.
I was retired, Yeah, but then but I wouldn't have
been able to stick around. I retired like after six.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But he would have flown to you, like over some
eas get you, get you ready to go, like hey,
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh my god, LaVar.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
If you think you're in great shape now, can you
imagine all the e A s. I mean, you'd have
been cut out of granite in Cleveland, basically a statue
walking around I'm telling you, man, there was possibilities there,
but it ended up.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Working out two years later.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean I don't know that it works.
I did play in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Now I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah right, Well, we're in the new studio, so we
are kind of adjusting. There's some things that are moving
pieces here, so trying to find yourself here fast.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There's a lot of it's very different, very different setup.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I mean it's nice, it's big, it's the buttons are
in different spots, so you're trying to learn the landscape
a little bit here. The mic setups, different TVs are nice.
But you can see the brand new computers in there.
It's fantastic. I mean it's one actually looks just like
my oh this is mine. Oh yeah, this one I
brought from home. So yeah, this was right sarcastic or so.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm trying to understand this sarcasm going on right now.
That's what's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
What is the dump button is obnoxious? So that's perfect
for coming up for petros later on. So I'm glad
we've got access to all that. It's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So yeah, I mean it's a nice little setup here.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're trying to, you know, get adjusted and try and
figure everything out here.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 5 (14:39):
So a couple of moves were made in the NFL yesterday.
Two of the best players at their position, Justin Jefferson,
he got himself his fifth year option picked up by
the Minnesota Vikings, not a surprise. Also not a surprise,
Joe Burrow received his fifth year option as well too.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, sorry, who is that Berto? Who did you?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was just saying, yeah, who was that?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Bourro?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Sounds so good on a fresh mic, sounds so good.
But Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson fifth year options have been
picked up. Tu A Takobailoa, also from the twenty twenty
draft classes fifth year option has been picked up. And
so now we wait and see, especially at quarterback, following
the signing of Jalen Hurtz, what that contract's going to
look like. For those Cincinnati Bengals who have a brand
(15:26):
new stadium sponsor, which I'm sure has nothing to do
Brady Quinn with the fact that Joe Burrow's got a
monster contract coming up soon.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Yeah, I mean this is part of the process, right
you pick up the fifth year option, you get them
under control for the next a couple of years. You
obviously have the franchise tags as projecting what the first
you know, I guess you'd say four years of that
would look like for an extension if you were to
get one done this offseason. But I'll keep saying that
(15:54):
the sooner the better for the Cincinati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
The price tag is only going to go up.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
We know that, and that an organization that this isn't
according to me, this is Forbes last year valued them
as the least valued franchise in the NFL. So they've
got to come up with a way of finding a
bunch of cash that they can stow away for those
big guarantees that Joe Burrow is going to want. And rightfully, so,
(16:20):
you know, I think most organizations would say, if you're
not building your organization around Patch Mahomes, next up's probably
Joe Burrow, if not Josh Allen, and how they're you're
looking at your team or franchise.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So he's gonna get a big payday. The structure is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
I keep feeling and thinking it's going to be at
least a five year extension, you know, so it could
get reported as a seven year deal even though he's
got a couple of years left on his deal. But
I would say somewhere between a five to maybe even seven,
so they could spread this thing out, even though I
don't think Joe Burrow and Is representatives want that long
term of a deal because they're going to want to
(16:57):
have the ability to come back to the negotiation table
for another big butte at the Apple and so I
would think if they get one done relatively soon, it'll
be around a five year extension on the on the
two years that I think he's got left on his
his rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I'm just my whole thing is when do teams get
to a point where they can't afford players, Like when
is it with the with.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
The ESCO rule and how much they've got to have
an escro due to the amount of guarantees in a contract.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's getting there now. There's two frames of thought.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
With that owners will use it as an excuse to
not push it put as many guarantees at signing for
that very reason, or eventually some of the owners who
have much deeper pockets are going to say yeah, or
even some of the ones that don't, they'll eventually say
when we come around to the next collective bartning agreement,
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they'll say, we want to get rid of this, or
we want to we want to look at this again
because we feel like, you know, we're putt at a
big time disadvantage because you don't have the deep pockets
that some of you other owners do and you've got
more cash to be able to throw around. I mean,
look at obviously the way Stan Cromkey handled things with
the RAMS, with the theory of cash over cap. When
you're dolling out these huge signing bonuses that you can
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spread throughout the life of a contract and put on
some voidable dummy years, and you have to have the
cash in order to be able to do that, as
opposed to you know, structuring that within the salary cap.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
You're your typical way of doing it.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
So that's that's got to be the route that this
thing goes. Because of the guarantees and how big they're getting.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
It feels like Cincinnati's got a pretty important year coming
up for him, because until you pay Joe Burrow, you've
still got obviously Jamar Chase, t Higgins is there. It
feels like, after you make the decision and the commitment
for Joe Burrow, how the hell are you going to
be able to pay everybody else or at least some
of these other stars. Like Jamar Chase feels like that's
the guy that you want to keep around based on
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how how good those guys have been together all the
way going back to Call, but also T Higgins. Like
there's been some rumblings this offseason about what to do
with T Higgins. I believe they either franchised him or
he's going to be there another year. But the feeling
is they'd like to keep t Higgins as well too,
but you can't afford everybody. It feels like this next
season is really an important season for the Bengals if
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they want to get over the hump and try and
win a Super Bowl, which is why losing that Super
Bowl to the Rams you look back on and go, damn,
you lost.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
They were leading in that game late, had an opportunity,
and then Cooper Cup did what Cooper Cup does in
those games, and it just feels like after last year
close lost to Kansas City, next year could really be
the year. If they're going to make a jump and
win that Super Bowl, next year should be the year.
That's what it feels like to me. I don't know
if I'm betting money on it, but that's what it
feels like to me as far as Cincinnati goes.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
You know, us thinking too, this is completely off topic,
but we kind of missed this and talking about whole
Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets. One of the articles
that kind of popped up was talking about how Dak
Prescott's now the longest current tenured quarterback with his team.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
With those franchises. I just don't think you're gonna see
that very much.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes, maybe you look at him, you say, Okay,
he's got a chance because he chose to science to
a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It's a great setup.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
But if Andy Reid's not there and he might not
feel confident in who they bring in depending on who
that may be. You got to wonder if they don't
start to look at going elsewhere. You know, a lot
of these guys who are younger quarterbacks kind of born
into a league. Now that's seen Aaron Rodgers go from
Green Bay after being there what eighteen years or long
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under that ever was, and move on to the Jets.
They've watched Tom Brady move on from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Russell Wilson Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
As well, he's not I mean, he's more of a
contemporary than when of old school guys. But not to
get into separate conversation, but when you look look at it,
you go, yeah, this is probably the end of an
era of seeing players stay for one long period of
time with one team. And I'm not gonna say like
the NBA had an impact on it, because players have
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always eventually gone on moved to another team. But even
the NBA to a degree, I think a lot of
players it's very rare for you to see them want
to stay in one place like Damian Low would stand
in Portland.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's just it's rare to see that.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
You know, you see most star players want to join
up or team up with other guys or move around
to different spots.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And I think you're seeing that now in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And maybe that's a byproduct of the player, but some
of it maybe too, just the fact that the quarterback
is evaluated so fast on his rookie deal that they
move on one way or another from a guy, and
even if you know, so if things are working out,
they extend them. But then he might get to a
point where he's like, all right, they're not paying me
enough or not giving me what I need.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And if you know, he plays early and it doesn't
work out, there's no patience, so they'll just move on
and draft the next guy.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I just I've always found the curious. Why is it
set up. Why are the rules set up in such
a way where like, all right, let's let's like go
back to pre free agency, like you were able to
have dynasty football teams because you didn't have free agency.
I just wonder, why are the rules set up in
(22:27):
a way where you can't you know, or where you
can compensate your team and keep your your team together,
Like I know, I know that might sound crazy, but
it's like it's almost like it's set up for the
economics to keep teams out of whack. And I know
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that's like an entertainment value, but sometimes you know, to me,
the business of sports is an overblown it's an overblown
aspect of the sport in the game itself, and sometimes
for me, I hate that the business of it bleeds
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into the actual this is the game. And because there's
always this conversation and it's almost like if we could create,
if there was a way to create a kind of
like what the standard is or what the structured standard is,
(23:28):
that you can actually put teams together and keep them
together instead of it being a culture that's it's been
created where you're chasing that dollar. Because I mean, at
some point it's like I think about business in the
real world like I've I've been I've been a part
of media for quite some time, and one of the
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things that you have to be aware of in what
you do in media is not pricing yourself out. You know,
you if you're good or not. You know, if you're
good enough to be in certain positions. But it's still
like the conversation of even though you know, you're good
at what you do and what you bring to the table.
You can't price yourself out because if you do that
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company can't afford you next thing. One thing leads to another,
you're not there anymore. Somebody else has to come in,
whatever it may be. That doesn't really exist so much,
at least for the elites and pro sports. It doesn't
really that doesn't really exist like pricing yourself out, like
I guess some guys can. I guess Lamar's action is
in that situation right now.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But isn't that.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Part of the secret to I guess one of the
secrets to the Patriots' success was Tom Brady never really
priced himself out, so they can yep around them.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
But and that's one way of looking at it, but
it shouldn't be. I mean, that's looking from the players perspective.
The interesting point that you bring up, LeVar is the
players fought for free agency, right They fought for the
ability to earn more the top you know, one percent,
two percent to earn more, which it essentially has led to,
you know, free agency, which is made it harder to
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keep teams together because of always the threat of going
to the free agency market.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And seeing what your market value is.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
And so that was something that was pushed heavily and
sacrificed heavily by by, you know, prior players. It wasn't
necessarily that the owners didn't want to keep a hell,
it was the owners would have loved it. And I
think from the player standpoint, what would have helped was
I mean I remember talking to old dudes who they're like, yeah, yeah,
we played you know, ten, twelve, fourteen years and you're like,
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that's incredible. They're like, yeah, I did it with like
one or two teams, and you're like wow. Usually you
don't see that very often. And it was because when
they drafted a player, they invested into them. You know,
they they knew it was a developmental sport and it
I mean, maybe it wasn't set up quite the same
way as now, but a lot of those older guys
had more of an opportunity to be coached, to be
developed and turn into the player that they had hoped
to be because there wasn't a threat of free agency,
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and so that was kind of a portion of it,
I guess. But you know, now with with free agency,
the way you construct a rosters is very different and
you know, again, I think some players, you know, they
see the the pros and cons of trying to push
to make as much money as they possibly can, and
some would say, hey, I'm going to take a contract
that's a longer term contract so I have, you know,
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more security with this team.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean, that's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
If you look at Patrick mahomes deal right now, as
it relates in how much cash he's being given, you
know versus some of the other new deals that have
taken place, like this, dude, he should be him and
his agents should be looking at Joe Burrow and Justin
Herbert to do their deal and then restructuring his because
he's falling way behind in regards to the amount of
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cash that he's being paid out for what he should
be getting, especially for a guy just won the MVP,
just won the Super Bowl. So but that's a byproduct
of his choice. You know, he wants stability, he wants
to build with that organization. That's that's what he wants
to do, and that could change over time. But look,
I don't I don't have an issue with it. I
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just think there's there's certain things within the CBA that
have allowed the owners to control players and not being
able to go find what they're truly, truly what their
market value is UH in a faster fashion. And maybe
maybe that'll change as the dollars get bigger and bigger,
But again, it's probably not going to come from the
player side of things. It's going to come from the
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owner's side because they're usually the ones that push agendas
to actually make things happen.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
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Speaker 4 (27:40):
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Speaker 5 (28:21):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on FSR.
Coming up in a little over twenty minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of the BQ
News here from these tairaq dot com studios. But right
now we turn it over to the old p On Twitter.
He is Petros Papadegus the cost of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the blowtorch AM
five seventy LA Sports. He's also a Fox College Football
(28:41):
analyst and reportedly not doing this interview from his home
studio because he is at the Crypto dot Com slash
Staples Center Arena in downtown LA in a Michael Cage jersey,
helping the Clippers clear out their lockers. He is Petros
popping agus Petros very early for that.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, I got my Beau Kimble on today.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh nice from the fuck Michael Cage last year. Bo
Kimble today? All right, what happened?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Pet things out? Yeah, figuring things out in the other studio.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're trying a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What do you god, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Don Martin would say about this.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well, look, I'm not doing invitations over the phone. First
of all, my internet is down. And I tried to,
like coerce my wife out of bed last night to
make it because I can't, but she would not get
out of bed, didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
All you have to do is unplugging and plug it
back up.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Well, I don't know where the plug is, Okay, so
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Petros like, that's an easy one. You just reset the
box and then it just just does not.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Nowhere where it is. So we're doing this. We could
talk about that for the next fifteen minutes. You know,
I was, I was on a hold on your new studio,
and I'm like on the phone, and you know, look,
I really like doing this show. I do. I enjoy
it whatever. I'm on hold. Your your engineer, and I
(30:16):
don't think it's Lee. Lee's your producer, but your engineer
screams in my like, I am tired this time of
the morning. I I do this, I go back to
sleep for a short amount of time that I get
up and I get my kids ready for school, and
I get be rated like we all do every time.
(30:36):
I'm on hold this guy, and today I'm on a phone.
It's all it's all disregulated. You know, you guys have
a new studio. I can hear everybody's no knows. I
can hear. We've established a connection and still every morning.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
That's burtoo well. The full line is way working for
Ben Mallerschow. That's why, that's why I was asking, if
you can hear me, it's going.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To push me, It's going to push me off the air.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Oh hey, you know, petros Berto is the guy that
brought back pac manned irrelevancy again after thirty years. The
movie Colors is now all of a sudden popular again
because of Berdo. I just want to point that out.
Some respects should be given. Yeah, you made him so sad.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Ago that I was playing pac Man daily on the
radio and on the Korean station. I guess just the
signal wasn't big enough for Berto.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
To hear it. That is it that or Mandarin was
a Korean? Or Mandarin? What is the proper Korean?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Okay? Anyway, I just like he lives inside my brain
every morning, at every Wednesday morning, at five am, he
screams at me and it puts me in a terrible mood.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
For the interview, he's a good person.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Well, I know, I'm saying I'm not judging him as
a person. I'm judging his board operating demeanor at five
in the morning with your only weekly guest.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well we have we have Albert, Albert ber Come on.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
So does he do that?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I don't know, Bruto, do you do that to Albert?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's consistent. There you go. But here's here's the thing, Petros.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
In Bruto's defense, Albert always has technical issues, so there
is a fair amount of like needing to check to
make sure Albert's connections all right. For whatever reason, he literally.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
You guys explained things to me like I don't work
in radio.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Well, I'm just saying we're trying to give you our perspective.
It's tough early in the mornings.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yes, it is lee Berto alone, pop dat how about that?
That's my engineer. He's trying to show you some love, Pops. Yeah,
you like, I've.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Asked you like that.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I've asked about the screaming and it'shit n I've had
to take it to the air. No one, no one
will address Don Martin and Don Martin guys is in Italy.
So you know, Bonas Sarah, Guys, I don't care about
what's going on.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Hey, what do you think it sounds like when Don's
ordering something to eat in Italy?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What do you think it sounds like?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Guys, I want one of those BJ style kind of
deep dish pizzas. Y'all making those out here? So if
the BJS they bring some orange chicken on the side.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Gone down to four minutes, petros, I gotta ask you
what the draft coming up tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Do you have a favorite draft memory?
Speaker 8 (34:04):
You know, like, is there anything that comes to mind
where you just were like in awe of this or
it made you laugh, or you just think you think
to yourself, like I can't believe, like the gas mass
to me, might be one of the crazier things that
probably ever came relevant on to draft day about Laramie Touns.
I mean it hurt us, I guess stock a little bit.
But is there anything that you just look back on
(34:25):
and go, yeah, that was kind of nuts.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Well, I mean I remember everybody's draft. I mean I
remember when you got drafted and Labar and everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Was that Jonas, Yeah that was me.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Look, I tried to get you drafted a long time
before you got drafted. You know, by the time, by
the time we promote speaking of our boss, by the
time we promote the guys that have been working hard
to get like real jobs, they're gray and old. Like
I think Jonas is twenty, it's like fifty years old.
(35:07):
So I remember a lot of you know, I remember
most of all when Kishawn, when I first got to
USC T Shawn Johnson, who is still around and in
the media, he went number one right to the Jets,
(35:30):
and he threw a party. Now imagine it's nineteen ninety six.
Ki Shawn Johnson gets drafted number one, he throws a
party at the House of Blues in on Sunset, which
was you know, a top shelf at that point, and
(35:51):
Coolio played, Oh nice, I mean, come on, I mean
that's like, that's like the King's a nation in England.
Like that's a once in a lifetime event, you know
for those like if you're seventeen years old, eighteen nineteen,
you know, everybody's throwing up in limousines and barfing all
(36:11):
over them. It was really amateur night for a college
football team, you know, at Keyshott's agent. But I remember
that as being you know, as far as like what's happened,
you know on air Over the years, I don't know,
the NFL has succeeded in making it a pretty big event.
(36:33):
I don't think it's as big of an event as
it was before. But I just I never understood the
fanfare for an event that is not an actual competition, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Yeah, well, they've done a great job, you know. I mean,
all of these sports leagues have tried really hard to
market themselves and make off season news. The NBA does
it with the free agency. I mean, I remember the
NBA was taking a victory lap because they hijacked the
(37:13):
media cycle when Mark Cuban and Doc Rivers were chasing.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The Remember that, Yeah that was great.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
You know, stuff like that has really helped these leagues
in the off season and helped get there. You know,
the the NBA off season is almost more interesting to
some people than the actual games, you know, just the
movement of the players. So there's become a big market
for that sports wise, as we all know. But why
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and does it interest me? You know, how these guys
go about their business and the hope springing eternal and
we're bringing in this one college player I don't really
get it, but I guess the amazing thing to me
is just the fanfare surrounding this moving kind of circuit
every year that we do by petros.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Have you been able to identify the location of the
RAMS war room with Sean mcvape and a less Needing company?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Where's that going to take place?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It is?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Is it in Malibu again? Or we gone all the
way to San Pedro? What are we looking at here?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Well, when the RAMS draft House comes to San Pedro,
that's when I start wearing the Fibonacci shirt, you know,
going full Paul McVeigh FM picks all that. Gosh, you know,
one of these the Rams have been trying to like
cultivate this. We're in LA and this is how LA
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people do it. They've been doing that for a long
time and or since they've been here, and has it
ever worked? Has anything they've ever done with Rebel Wilson?
Or I mean, is it funny? Is any of the pool?
I mean, honestly, they've found like a millions and millions
(39:02):
of dollars on all this bs in the first draft
house in Malibu. Lef sneed got COVID remember that? Yeah,
last year they did the whole thing with the Rams
house or the Hollywood Hills with the real estate agent BS. Yeah,
(39:22):
that didn't work. Now they're trying to act like, look,
we're serious, we really know how to handle our business.
You know, we were going back to the drawing board
and we put a camera behind this to look at
let's meat drawing up on it. It's so stupid. I mean,
do the Rams know how to operate as an organization?
(39:44):
It feels like it right football wise. I mean, they
won a Super Bowl. It's not like they field the
team with the Jonas brothers in the backfield. But but
it's amazing to me the way they try to act like,
you know, we're in LA and this is how you're
supposed to do it in LA. You're supposed to hire
a bunch of celebrity ambassadors that really don't resonate with
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football fans and making a charade of of of ignorance.
That's what they do every year. I don't know what
they're where they are this year. I'm assuming, you know,
the natural progression of things. They've been in Malibu, they've
been in They've been in the Hollywood Hills. I would
say they're either going to the cock Pancock Park, or
(40:30):
or uh be headed to like Colin Cowhard's area, like
Santa Monica above Montana. They're not coming to Palace Verdi's.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Not above the hill?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Why not nice?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
They don't want those majestic views.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
It's so nice up there, anyway, can I can I
ask you, like your takeaway on Colorado's spring game, like
you did?
Speaker 6 (41:02):
I mean, look over the window, LeVar in that brand
new studio is Berno wearing a big cowboy hat and
the prime jacket.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
And I'm out of town, I'm in, I'm remote, but
I would assume he isn't I was.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Look. I mean, you guys know how a football team
is built just as well or maybe better than I do.
But and we all know that the transfer portal in
the new era of college football is what it is.
But to me, it seems like a football program is
not a house that you can just gut in in
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one off season and put all new furniture in and
go live in it. That's a pretty tall order. The
amount of guys that have turned over there is disturbing,
and you know they don't want to lose all of them,
and that's also disturbing. And the outfit of the spring
game was kind of disturbed. But you know, I don't
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know what's going to happen. I don't think they're going
to be very good. And he might he might be
going a little too hard with the hey buddy, you're
getting cut today and all this stuff that we're reading today.
But we'll see. I mean, look, Colorado handed him the keys,
and now he's going to be able to drive any
kind of style he wants for quite some time. And look,
(42:33):
they won one game last year and they'd been a
terrible program for a long time. So there's a lot
of arguments going on. And there's also going to be
a lot of arguments LeVar about how do you treat
players and how do you talk to players and all
this stuff, and they'll be scrutiny will with d On
and then people will say, well, what about Saban and
Kirby Smart, you know, how do they do it? And
(42:53):
maybe you're talking about Dion because he's not one of
those guys, and he's flashy and he's self and I
don't know, I don't know. I don't like what I'm
seeing over there. I really don't. That much turnover is
disturbing to me, I understand flipping a roster, but to me,
it's like, it's a lot more interesting, and it's a
(43:15):
new era and we're all learning, but it's a lot
more interesting when a guy like Bob Stoops comes into
Oklahoma at the turn of the century, right, and he
flipped the roster in a different way. Right. He moved
guys that were playing offense to defense. He moved defensive
guys to offense.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Isn't that The sign of a good coach is when
you take what you have and you develop them and
you move them around and you can make them better.
I mean, this is I don't want to say, like
the easy way out of trying to build back up
you know, Colorado, But it kind of strikes me as
more of isn't Isn't that more what a great coach does.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
He takes something to say.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
Hey, yeah, and if it feels like he's running away
from doing that, he's looking for a fast solution, which
usually never works out in the long run. Although I'm
sure Joel Klatt will try to defend all of what
Prime's doings, given how intricately involved he wasn't getting him
there in the first place.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Well, Joel will go very professorial on all of us,
if we, if we, if we rose, if any concerns
were raised for Joel, will go, will go the opposite
direction and over explain it, and you'd be so tired
of hearing about it. You'll just be like, you're right,
he's great. But uh, I think Brady, that that most
(44:44):
of us that have been around football for a long
time know that there. You know, player development is the
best mark of a great program and sticking with players
and creating you know, having a guy come in and
maybe he's not great when he's eighteen, but when he's
nineteen twenty, he's twenty one years old, he's a great
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player for you. That is not lost on most football coaches.
I think even today in the modern era. It's not
the only way to do things. You most everybody probably
would have success doing a little bit of both. But
when you see the opposite, like you said, all of
these guys are crap, we are he yarn't a pulping
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them out of a boulder or and you know some
of the guys that are good, see how some of
these guys are treated, and they don't want to hang around.
And I think that's what happened with the receiver from
Inglewood and maybe the running back from last year. Guys
that they do need. I mean, you can't. You can't
just bring in all new people and say all right,
(45:48):
here's your college, here's what we do, and here let's run.
It's going to be really interesting to see how it
plays out. And you're right, Joel's going to be able
to explain it to all of us.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros papadagainst
the Petros money show you Telferno.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
He's doing a play job. And if you got them
scream at me in the morning, then I just don't
know what to do. I couldn't even do the here.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Damn right, a little bit of love here from Petros.
That was full circle there, Petros, we appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
I have to be able to vet my frustrations, especially
if my machine doesn't work. And LeVar, you can come
over here and flip the switch.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, I got you, Hey, Yeah got literally and proverbial.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I am a switch flipper, my guys, Yeah as me
they was talking about Yeah from Big.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's me.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, The Hell's going on on a Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
VARs back many. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I didn't want to be gone, believe you me. But
you know, things happen.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey, we got you got the place, man.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm back in. Shake City is a place, and so
I heard LeVar Islands. Yeah, it's a drink.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Have we made Have we made any movement on that
so far?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm on, let's go eleven ingredients.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
My people at Zimbi's here in Harrisburg have now officially
adopted LeVar Islands on on their menu, So next time
I'm here, they'll they'll be called LeVar Islands instead of
Long Islands.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now do you have to add in an ingredient in there?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yes, there's a secret ingredient. Okay, Yes, I'll tell you
guys off.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Age very good, all right, So I just want to
want to make sure that we that we we're aware
of what's happening there.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, I'll let you know.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, because I can't tell you what's inside of Long Island,
but I'm hoping to tell you what's inside of LeVar Island.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
We So the conversation now becomes as we fast approach
the NFL Draft, which LeVar.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Arrington will be a part of here at Fox Sports
Radio Draft Night Live here in right. We're coming up
tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
But the conversation becomes, what's the plan at number one
for the Carolina Panthers. Everybody assumes it's going to be
Bryce Young. The betting odds would indicate as much. Frank Reich,
the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, spoke yesterday to
the media and he was asked how he and GM
Scott Fitterer feel about the selection at number one and
(01:53):
sort of where their ideas as far as where the
franchise goes Tomorrow night at eight Eastern time. Have you
guys talked about that and if you've come to consensus yet?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
He did.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
He actually saided he came in my office yesterday at
some point and asked the question, you know, it's kind
of like a proposal of source, you know, And I said, yes, no,
there's consensus and we're excited.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Who is it.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
We'll announce that Thursday at about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So funny, man, the media is so funny.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
What they do, all right, so so it's gonna be
been awesome. Though, what's that if he had just said it,
I mean it would have been that would have been
crazy awesome, like.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like you just slip it out, or if he just said.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It, no, just say it, like if he'd have just
just been just bodacious with it, like you're you're now
bringing your guy in with a ton of confidence. You know,
you got the city excited, like it's like, we're committed
to this guy. Like and I mean, listen, I'm I'm
saying it because I'm just like thinking, when do you
you you will never hear that ever happen. So imagine
(03:02):
if somebody just was like they asked, we've got the
number one draft pick, they're coming here, and just say it,
Like can you imagine what people's faces would have been
if he'd have just been like, yep, this is who
we're taking. Like I don't know, Like sometimes I feel
like if you, if you're that guy that shakes things up,
you know, the reaction would be interesting. The you know,
(03:24):
the folklore connected to you would would start and begin
and be created. I mean, Carolina, they could use something
like that, you know what I mean? Why not just
say it. Just drop the drop the bomb. Let's just
drop it. Yeah, just drop it. We're going to confirm
it at eight o'clock on Thursday night. But here's who
we're taking, and we're going to be great.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
The interesting thing is they are allowed to, you know,
whoever Carolina wants to take. I mean, they can kind
of start that negotiation process. They can get have a playbook.
I mean, when you have the first overall pick, you
can do whatever you want. I've said this before. A
lot of people think they've kind of wait until Thursday.
That's not the case. They really can essentially make their
selection and start working towards getting that contract done as
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soon as the selection's made. So in theory, they could
be negotiating this week and then once the pick is made, boom,
contract side, he's in. You don't have to worry about anything,
hold out, none of that stuff, not that it would
be a holdout, but not agree to terms. I'm not
sure what to make of the will Levis line movement.
(04:27):
I mean, are we really basing this off of Reddit post?
What do you mean that something that information came from?
I mean, what ultimately swung the odds?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Are you talking about the former Penn State Nitney line
will will Levis, who is climbing the draft charts as
far as the betting odds go. Now all of a
sudden second to be picked according to the odds and
our friends at DraftKings and other reputable sports books who
are saying will live it, will Levis could be the
guy sitting at plus four point fifty. You know you're
(04:56):
not buying into this. You know there's validity to this
based on a Reddit post? Then come on, this is
fun United not totally into will Levis going number one overall.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Now, well, look that's Carolina's prerogative. I'm just saying we
base this off a Reddit post. That is that where
we're at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's how we move lines.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Now, Anonymous Bryce Young is still the favorite.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Yes, okay, I mean so other than one, yeah, other
than this line movement.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We really don't know what to make of this.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
But I'll say this, only Carolina knows they're not gonna
let the cat out of the Backs the Roger Cadell
in the NFL, would you know, slap them on the
wrist for that. But I just I'm not sure what
to make of it. I don't, you know, I'm not
sure if it's it's maybe someone within his group trying
to help improve the perception because he's been knocked down
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a lot throughout the course of the evaluation process. You know,
I see people talking about how CJ. Stroud's taking a hit.
I mean, gosh, I guess you know what, I have
him going number two overall, I guess that's that's really
someone's really trying to knock him down a peg. Where
where Levis has been talked about is not even being
that the first, second or third quarterback taken. People talk
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about him maybe being the fourth quarterback taken because of
his film and how things look this year, and you
know his physique, right, do we go.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On a while talking about two?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Jack does?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
So.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
I'm not sure what to make of it, but it
at least leads in a little intrigue, because I feel
like this has been a bad secret for a pat
in the past couple of weeks, with Bryce Young going
number one, we've all.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Said, hey, the draft starts at number two.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
But this creates a little bit of intrigue, I guess,
leading up to what could be a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Tomorrow night, and for those of you that are not
familiar the odd move. The odds changed there for will
Levis to go number one overall is because this anonymous
Reddit user put up a post yesterday that said that
will Levis has told friends and family that Carolina is
going to sell him number one overall, that he's going
to go to Carolina and be a part of the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
So ask you guys a question, what what what does
this mean?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
How should this be interpreted? Let's just say for the
sake of saying, if will Levis goes number one, like,
is that is that a you know what what is that?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
How?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
How do how how should that be viewed?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
I think they just it shows you that the betting
offs they have no clue what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, you Bryce Young ten to one, and then
the books.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Somehow messed us up where will Lepis goes number one
at what plus four hundred plus five hundred and plus
four fifty? Yeah, it depends on the book. I mean
we we only look at draft Gicksam right, it's somewhere
which with you. Yeah, That's what I would take away
from it, is like even Vegas has no clue what
they're doing. If that's how far off they were from
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Bryce Young going number one to Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I mean, and also, I think that this show has
a vested interest in will Lepis going number one over all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All right, and let me explain.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Because it really does bring all three of us together
if Will Levis is the guy, because he did go
to Penn State.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
He did.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He then transferred to Kentucky, which Brady Quinn's good friend
the meat Wagon diehard Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Football and played football there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean that too.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I mean, listen, I mean, that's debatable whether that's deeper
than the meat Wagon's connection, but I mean there's the
kanecky Is Kentucky tie there, and then he's jacked like me.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So I feel like we've got.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
All everybody's represented in the Will Levis food group here,
and we've all got a vested interest in him going
number one overall. And he did score pretty high on
that S nine test or whatever they're calling that.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
C J.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Stroud apparently bombed and has been leaked to.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
The media now, so so maybe the feeling is, well,
if he's not that far off on that test when
it comes to Bryce Young, maybe we'll just side with
the guy who's six ' four six ' five and tore.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Up like a bad report card.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Maybe that's the direction the Carolina Panthers go with quarterback
get number one overall.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
You know what was odd is the guy who invented
the test. I forget his last name, but he came
out said, oh, so those inaccurate wouldn't say which ones,
but so those test scores are inaccurate. It's like, come on, dude,
like you knew this would be leaked out. You probably
don't want to create a fuss. And much like how
the Wonderlick was controversial at some point, now he's worried
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about his test being controversial.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's just not everyone could have done well in it.
That's why that stuff gets leaked.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
And that's okay, Like we can admit that maybe your
test isn't the most accurate. It's got some flaws to it.
Like you don't need to go on and to say
I know everyone did great, everyone did great. There's just
a few inaccurate scores that got leaked.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
There have been some people who have acknowledged after the
fact that maybe something they designed or put together hasn't
been the most effective in recent memory, so some people
have done that.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Look, this is better than the Wonderlick, which was a
standardized it has nothing to do with football. This is
at least a little closer to something I guess. But
I mean it's okay. We can admit the test isn't perfect.
It's not football. We get that. You know, film ultimately
is what dictates where these young men will be be taken.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's why I'm a I'm.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
A huge proponent thinking that regardless of the odds, regardless
of what people think, CJ. Stroud will go somewhere number
two overall, but he's not getting past the top four.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just have a hard side believe in that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And meanwhile, Anthony Richardson is just kind of sitting out
there and who knows, maybe Seattle at five looks at
you know, maybe taking a quarterback high up. When are
they going to be in the spot again? But Anthony
Richardson just kind of floating out there. LaVar, how far
before you got taken number two by Washington? Did you
know you were going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
The night before? But it was different. I mean, I mean,
maybe it's still the same in terms of knowing where
you're going to go, but I was in contact with
with Washington the day before. So, but I was also
in contact with Cleveland the day before. And it's as
as the story you know has it, Cleveland called to
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do the deal with me to go number one, but
I told them I needed a quarterback, a quarterback contract
to commit to going to Cleveland. So they're like, so
they were like, well, you're not. So you're saying you're
not going to be signable, and I'm saying, I'm saying
that I'm coming to Cleveland and I may never get
another opportunity to get a payday coming to Cleveland, so
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I need to know that you guys are going to
compensate me like a quarterback. And then they were like, okay,
well we'll we'll call you back, and then they you know,
they call Courtney up. Then I ended up talking to Courtney.
I told Courtney, you know, negotiate hard. I'm not going
to negotiate with Cleveland, and and so that was kind
of how that that played out. And then I had
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the same kind of conversation with with Washington because if
you were called, they had the number two and number
three overall pick. So they were basically asking are you
going to be signable, because if you're, if we're going
to have any problems with you know, getting your contract done,
there's the possibility that we could actually take you at
three just to take away some of your negotiating power
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in the scenario instead of taking me at two. So
so yeah, I was in conversations with them the night
before and then who I was going.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And then all those years later, you could have been
paired up with Brady Quinn. You guys could have been
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think I don't know what year did you come in?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh seven?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
No, I was retired, Yeah, yeah, but I think you
like playing with him would have made you want to
stick around longer.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
That's what I wouldn't have been able to play with.
I was retired, Yeah, but then but I wouldn't have
been able to stick around. I retired like after six.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But he would have flown to you, like over some
eas get you, get you ready to go, like hey,
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh my god, LaVar.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
If you think you're in great shape now, can you
imagine all the e A s. I mean, you'd have
been cut out of granite in Cleveland, basically a statue
walking around I'm telling you, man, there was possibilities there,
but it ended up.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Working out two years later.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean I don't know that it works.
I did play in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Now I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah right, Well, we're in the new studio, so we
are kind of adjusting. There's some things that are moving
pieces here, so trying to find yourself here fast.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There's a lot of it's very different, very different setup.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I mean it's nice, it's big, it's the buttons are
in different spots, so you're trying to learn the landscape
a little bit here. The mic setups, different TVs are nice.
But you can see the brand new computers in there.
It's fantastic. I mean it's one actually looks just like
my oh this is mine. Oh yeah, this one I
brought from home. So yeah, this was right sarcastic or so.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm trying to understand this sarcasm going on right now.
That's what's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
What is the dump button is obnoxious? So that's perfect
for coming up for petros later on. So I'm glad
we've got access to all that. It's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So yeah, I mean it's a nice little setup here.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're trying to, you know, get adjusted and try and
figure everything out here.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 5 (14:39):
So a couple of moves were made in the NFL yesterday.
Two of the best players at their position, Justin Jefferson,
he got himself his fifth year option picked up by
the Minnesota Vikings, not a surprise. Also not a surprise,
Joe Burrow received his fifth year option as well too.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, sorry, who is that Berto? Who did you?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was just saying, yeah, who was that?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Bourro?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Sounds so good on a fresh mic, sounds so good.
But Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson fifth year options have been
picked up. Tu A Takobailoa, also from the twenty twenty
draft classes fifth year option has been picked up. And
so now we wait and see, especially at quarterback, following
the signing of Jalen Hurtz, what that contract's going to
look like. For those Cincinnati Bengals who have a brand
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new stadium sponsor, which I'm sure has nothing to do
Brady Quinn with the fact that Joe Burrow's got a
monster contract coming up soon.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Yeah, I mean this is part of the process, right
you pick up the fifth year option, you get them
under control for the next a couple of years. You
obviously have the franchise tags as projecting what the first
you know, I guess you'd say four years of that
would look like for an extension if you were to
get one done this offseason. But I'll keep saying that
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the sooner the better for the Cincinati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
The price tag is only going to go up.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
We know that, and that an organization that this isn't
according to me, this is Forbes last year valued them
as the least valued franchise in the NFL. So they've
got to come up with a way of finding a
bunch of cash that they can stow away for those
big guarantees that Joe Burrow is going to want. And rightfully, so,
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you know, I think most organizations would say, if you're
not building your organization around Patch Mahomes, next up's probably
Joe Burrow, if not Josh Allen, and how they're you're
looking at your team or franchise.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So he's gonna get a big payday. The structure is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
I keep feeling and thinking it's going to be at
least a five year extension, you know, so it could
get reported as a seven year deal even though he's
got a couple of years left on his deal. But
I would say somewhere between a five to maybe even seven,
so they could spread this thing out, even though I
don't think Joe Burrow and Is representatives want that long
term of a deal because they're going to want to
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have the ability to come back to the negotiation table
for another big butte at the Apple and so I
would think if they get one done relatively soon, it'll
be around a five year extension on the on the
two years that I think he's got left on his
his rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I'm just my whole thing is when do teams get
to a point where they can't afford players, Like when
is it with the with.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
The ESCO rule and how much they've got to have
an escro due to the amount of guarantees in a contract.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's getting there now. There's two frames of thought.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
With that owners will use it as an excuse to
not push it put as many guarantees at signing for
that very reason, or eventually some of the owners who
have much deeper pockets are going to say yeah, or
even some of the ones that don't, they'll eventually say
when we come around to the next collective bartning agreement,
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they'll say, we want to get rid of this, or
we want to we want to look at this again
because we feel like, you know, we're putt at a
big time disadvantage because you don't have the deep pockets
that some of you other owners do and you've got
more cash to be able to throw around. I mean,
look at obviously the way Stan Cromkey handled things with
the RAMS, with the theory of cash over cap. When
you're dolling out these huge signing bonuses that you can
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spread throughout the life of a contract and put on
some voidable dummy years, and you have to have the
cash in order to be able to do that, as
opposed to you know, structuring that within the salary cap.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
You're your typical way of doing it.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
So that's that's got to be the route that this
thing goes. Because of the guarantees and how big they're getting.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
It feels like Cincinnati's got a pretty important year coming
up for him, because until you pay Joe Burrow, you've
still got obviously Jamar Chase, t Higgins is there. It
feels like, after you make the decision and the commitment
for Joe Burrow, how the hell are you going to
be able to pay everybody else or at least some
of these other stars. Like Jamar Chase feels like that's
the guy that you want to keep around based on
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how how good those guys have been together all the
way going back to Call, but also T Higgins. Like
there's been some rumblings this offseason about what to do
with T Higgins. I believe they either franchised him or
he's going to be there another year. But the feeling
is they'd like to keep t Higgins as well too,
but you can't afford everybody. It feels like this next
season is really an important season for the Bengals if
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they want to get over the hump and try and
win a Super Bowl, which is why losing that Super
Bowl to the Rams you look back on and go, damn,
you lost.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
They were leading in that game late, had an opportunity,
and then Cooper Cup did what Cooper Cup does in
those games, and it just feels like after last year
close lost to Kansas City, next year could really be
the year. If they're going to make a jump and
win that Super Bowl, next year should be the year.
That's what it feels like to me. I don't know
if I'm betting money on it, but that's what it
feels like to me as far as Cincinnati goes.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
You know, us thinking too, this is completely off topic,
but we kind of missed this and talking about whole
Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets. One of the articles
that kind of popped up was talking about how Dak
Prescott's now the longest current tenured quarterback with his team.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
With those franchises. I just don't think you're gonna see
that very much.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes, maybe you look at him, you say, Okay,
he's got a chance because he chose to science to
a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It's a great setup.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
But if Andy Reid's not there and he might not
feel confident in who they bring in depending on who
that may be. You got to wonder if they don't
start to look at going elsewhere. You know, a lot
of these guys who are younger quarterbacks kind of born
into a league. Now that's seen Aaron Rodgers go from
Green Bay after being there what eighteen years or long
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under that ever was, and move on to the Jets.
They've watched Tom Brady move on from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Russell Wilson Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
As well, he's not I mean, he's more of a
contemporary than when of old school guys. But not to
get into separate conversation, but when you look look at it,
you go, yeah, this is probably the end of an
era of seeing players stay for one long period of
time with one team. And I'm not gonna say like
the NBA had an impact on it, because players have
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always eventually gone on moved to another team. But even
the NBA to a degree, I think a lot of
players it's very rare for you to see them want
to stay in one place like Damian Low would stand
in Portland.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's just it's rare to see that.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
You know, you see most star players want to join
up or team up with other guys or move around
to different spots.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And I think you're seeing that now in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And maybe that's a byproduct of the player, but some
of it maybe too, just the fact that the quarterback
is evaluated so fast on his rookie deal that they
move on one way or another from a guy, and
even if you know, so if things are working out,
they extend them. But then he might get to a
point where he's like, all right, they're not paying me
enough or not giving me what I need.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And if you know, he plays early and it doesn't
work out, there's no patience, so they'll just move on
and draft the next guy.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I just I've always found the curious. Why is it
set up. Why are the rules set up in such
a way where like, all right, let's let's like go
back to pre free agency, like you were able to
have dynasty football teams because you didn't have free agency.
I just wonder, why are the rules set up in
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a way where you can't you know, or where you
can compensate your team and keep your your team together,
Like I know, I know that might sound crazy, but
it's like it's almost like it's set up for the
economics to keep teams out of whack. And I know
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that's like an entertainment value, but sometimes you know, to me,
the business of sports is an overblown it's an overblown
aspect of the sport in the game itself, and sometimes
for me, I hate that the business of it bleeds
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into the actual this is the game. And because there's
always this conversation and it's almost like if we could create,
if there was a way to create a kind of
like what the standard is or what the structured standard is,
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that you can actually put teams together and keep them
together instead of it being a culture that's it's been
created where you're chasing that dollar. Because I mean, at
some point it's like I think about business in the
real world like I've I've been I've been a part
of media for quite some time, and one of the
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things that you have to be aware of in what
you do in media is not pricing yourself out. You know,
you if you're good or not. You know, if you're
good enough to be in certain positions. But it's still
like the conversation of even though you know, you're good
at what you do and what you bring to the table.
You can't price yourself out because if you do that
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company can't afford you next thing. One thing leads to another,
you're not there anymore. Somebody else has to come in,
whatever it may be. That doesn't really exist so much,
at least for the elites and pro sports. It doesn't
really that doesn't really exist like pricing yourself out, like
I guess some guys can. I guess Lamar's action is
in that situation right now.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But isn't that.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Part of the secret to I guess one of the
secrets to the Patriots' success was Tom Brady never really
priced himself out, so they can yep around them.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
But and that's one way of looking at it, but
it shouldn't be. I mean, that's looking from the players perspective.
The interesting point that you bring up, LeVar is the
players fought for free agency, right They fought for the
ability to earn more the top you know, one percent,
two percent to earn more, which it essentially has led to,
you know, free agency, which is made it harder to
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keep teams together because of always the threat of going
to the free agency market.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And seeing what your market value is.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
And so that was something that was pushed heavily and
sacrificed heavily by by, you know, prior players. It wasn't
necessarily that the owners didn't want to keep a hell,
it was the owners would have loved it. And I
think from the player standpoint, what would have helped was
I mean I remember talking to old dudes who they're like, yeah, yeah,
we played you know, ten, twelve, fourteen years and you're like,
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that's incredible. They're like, yeah, I did it with like
one or two teams, and you're like wow. Usually you
don't see that very often. And it was because when
they drafted a player, they invested into them. You know,
they they knew it was a developmental sport and it
I mean, maybe it wasn't set up quite the same
way as now, but a lot of those older guys
had more of an opportunity to be coached, to be
developed and turn into the player that they had hoped
to be because there wasn't a threat of free agency,
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and so that was kind of a portion of it,
I guess. But you know, now with with free agency,
the way you construct a rosters is very different and
you know, again, I think some players, you know, they
see the the pros and cons of trying to push
to make as much money as they possibly can, and
some would say, hey, I'm going to take a contract
that's a longer term contract so I have, you know,
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more security with this team.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean, that's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
If you look at Patrick mahomes deal right now, as
it relates in how much cash he's being given, you
know versus some of the other new deals that have
taken place, like this, dude, he should be him and
his agents should be looking at Joe Burrow and Justin
Herbert to do their deal and then restructuring his because
he's falling way behind in regards to the amount of
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cash that he's being paid out for what he should
be getting, especially for a guy just won the MVP,
just won the Super Bowl. So but that's a byproduct
of his choice. You know, he wants stability, he wants
to build with that organization. That's that's what he wants
to do, and that could change over time. But look,
I don't I don't have an issue with it. I
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just think there's there's certain things within the CBA that
have allowed the owners to control players and not being
able to go find what they're truly, truly what their
market value is UH in a faster fashion. And maybe
maybe that'll change as the dollars get bigger and bigger,
But again, it's probably not going to come from the
player side of things. It's going to come from the
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owner's side because they're usually the ones that push agendas
to actually make things happen.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
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Speaker 4 (27:40):
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Speaker 5 (28:21):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on FSR.
Coming up in a little over twenty minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of the BQ
News here from these tairaq dot com studios. But right
now we turn it over to the old p On Twitter.
He is Petros Papadegus the cost of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the blowtorch AM
five seventy LA Sports. He's also a Fox College Football
(28:41):
analyst and reportedly not doing this interview from his home
studio because he is at the Crypto dot Com slash
Staples Center Arena in downtown LA in a Michael Cage jersey,
helping the Clippers clear out their lockers. He is Petros
popping agus Petros very early for that.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, I got my Beau Kimble on today.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh nice from the fuck Michael Cage last year. Bo
Kimble today? All right, what happened?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Pet things out? Yeah, figuring things out in the other studio.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're trying a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What do you god, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Don Martin would say about this.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well, look, I'm not doing invitations over the phone. First
of all, my internet is down. And I tried to,
like coerce my wife out of bed last night to
make it because I can't, but she would not get
out of bed, didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
All you have to do is unplugging and plug it
back up.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Well, I don't know where the plug is, Okay, so
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Petros like, that's an easy one. You just reset the
box and then it just just does not.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Nowhere where it is. So we're doing this. We could
talk about that for the next fifteen minutes. You know,
I was, I was on a hold on your new studio,
and I'm like on the phone, and you know, look,
I really like doing this show. I do. I enjoy
it whatever. I'm on hold. Your your engineer, and I
(30:16):
don't think it's Lee. Lee's your producer, but your engineer
screams in my like, I am tired this time of
the morning. I I do this, I go back to
sleep for a short amount of time that I get
up and I get my kids ready for school, and
I get be rated like we all do every time.
(30:36):
I'm on hold this guy, and today I'm on a phone.
It's all it's all disregulated. You know, you guys have
a new studio. I can hear everybody's no knows. I
can hear. We've established a connection and still every morning.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
That's burtoo well. The full line is way working for
Ben Mallerschow. That's why, that's why I was asking, if
you can hear me, it's going.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To push me, It's going to push me off the air.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Oh hey, you know, petros Berto is the guy that
brought back pac manned irrelevancy again after thirty years. The
movie Colors is now all of a sudden popular again
because of Berdo. I just want to point that out.
Some respects should be given. Yeah, you made him so sad.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Ago that I was playing pac Man daily on the
radio and on the Korean station. I guess just the
signal wasn't big enough for Berto.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
To hear it. That is it that or Mandarin was
a Korean? Or Mandarin? What is the proper Korean?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Okay? Anyway, I just like he lives inside my brain
every morning, at every Wednesday morning, at five am, he
screams at me and it puts me in a terrible mood.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
For the interview, he's a good person.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Well, I know, I'm saying I'm not judging him as
a person. I'm judging his board operating demeanor at five
in the morning with your only weekly guest.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well we have we have Albert, Albert ber Come on.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
So does he do that?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I don't know, Bruto, do you do that to Albert?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's consistent. There you go. But here's here's the thing, Petros.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
In Bruto's defense, Albert always has technical issues, so there
is a fair amount of like needing to check to
make sure Albert's connections all right. For whatever reason, he literally.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
You guys explained things to me like I don't work
in radio.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Well, I'm just saying we're trying to give you our perspective.
It's tough early in the mornings.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yes, it is lee Berto alone, pop dat how about that?
That's my engineer. He's trying to show you some love, Pops. Yeah,
you like, I've.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Asked you like that.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I've asked about the screaming and it'shit n I've had
to take it to the air. No one, no one
will address Don Martin and Don Martin guys is in Italy.
So you know, Bonas Sarah, Guys, I don't care about
what's going on.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Hey, what do you think it sounds like when Don's
ordering something to eat in Italy?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What do you think it sounds like?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Guys, I want one of those BJ style kind of
deep dish pizzas. Y'all making those out here? So if
the BJS they bring some orange chicken on the side.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Gone down to four minutes, petros, I gotta ask you
what the draft coming up tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Do you have a favorite draft memory?
Speaker 8 (34:04):
You know, like, is there anything that comes to mind
where you just were like in awe of this or
it made you laugh, or you just think you think
to yourself, like I can't believe, like the gas mass
to me, might be one of the crazier things that
probably ever came relevant on to draft day about Laramie Touns.
I mean it hurt us, I guess stock a little bit.
But is there anything that you just look back on
(34:25):
and go, yeah, that was kind of nuts.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Well, I mean I remember everybody's draft. I mean I
remember when you got drafted and Labar and everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Was that Jonas, Yeah that was me.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Look, I tried to get you drafted a long time
before you got drafted. You know, by the time, by
the time we promote speaking of our boss, by the
time we promote the guys that have been working hard
to get like real jobs, they're gray and old. Like
I think Jonas is twenty, it's like fifty years old.
(35:07):
So I remember a lot of you know, I remember
most of all when Kishawn, when I first got to
USC T Shawn Johnson, who is still around and in
the media, he went number one right to the Jets,
(35:30):
and he threw a party. Now imagine it's nineteen ninety six.
Ki Shawn Johnson gets drafted number one, he throws a
party at the House of Blues in on Sunset, which
was you know, a top shelf at that point, and
(35:51):
Coolio played, Oh nice, I mean, come on, I mean
that's like, that's like the King's a nation in England.
Like that's a once in a lifetime event, you know
for those like if you're seventeen years old, eighteen nineteen,
you know, everybody's throwing up in limousines and barfing all
(36:11):
over them. It was really amateur night for a college
football team, you know, at Keyshott's agent. But I remember
that as being you know, as far as like what's happened,
you know on air Over the years, I don't know,
the NFL has succeeded in making it a pretty big event.
(36:33):
I don't think it's as big of an event as
it was before. But I just I never understood the
fanfare for an event that is not an actual competition, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Yeah, well, they've done a great job, you know. I mean,
all of these sports leagues have tried really hard to
market themselves and make off season news. The NBA does
it with the free agency. I mean, I remember the
NBA was taking a victory lap because they hijacked the
(37:13):
media cycle when Mark Cuban and Doc Rivers were chasing.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The Remember that, Yeah that was great.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
You know, stuff like that has really helped these leagues
in the off season and helped get there. You know,
the the NBA off season is almost more interesting to
some people than the actual games, you know, just the
movement of the players. So there's become a big market
for that sports wise, as we all know. But why
(37:42):
and does it interest me? You know, how these guys
go about their business and the hope springing eternal and
we're bringing in this one college player I don't really
get it, but I guess the amazing thing to me
is just the fanfare surrounding this moving kind of circuit
every year that we do by petros.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Have you been able to identify the location of the
RAMS war room with Sean mcvape and a less Needing company?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Where's that going to take place?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It is?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Is it in Malibu again? Or we gone all the
way to San Pedro? What are we looking at here?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Well, when the RAMS draft House comes to San Pedro,
that's when I start wearing the Fibonacci shirt, you know,
going full Paul McVeigh FM picks all that. Gosh, you know,
one of these the Rams have been trying to like
cultivate this. We're in LA and this is how LA
(38:39):
people do it. They've been doing that for a long
time and or since they've been here, and has it
ever worked? Has anything they've ever done with Rebel Wilson?
Or I mean, is it funny? Is any of the pool?
I mean, honestly, they've found like a millions and millions
(39:02):
of dollars on all this bs in the first draft
house in Malibu. Lef sneed got COVID remember that? Yeah,
last year they did the whole thing with the Rams
house or the Hollywood Hills with the real estate agent BS. Yeah,
(39:22):
that didn't work. Now they're trying to act like, look,
we're serious, we really know how to handle our business.
You know, we were going back to the drawing board
and we put a camera behind this to look at
let's meat drawing up on it. It's so stupid. I mean,
do the Rams know how to operate as an organization?
(39:44):
It feels like it right football wise. I mean, they
won a Super Bowl. It's not like they field the
team with the Jonas brothers in the backfield. But but
it's amazing to me the way they try to act like,
you know, we're in LA and this is how you're
supposed to do it in LA. You're supposed to hire
a bunch of celebrity ambassadors that really don't resonate with
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football fans and making a charade of of of ignorance.
That's what they do every year. I don't know what
they're where they are this year. I'm assuming, you know,
the natural progression of things. They've been in Malibu, they've
been in They've been in the Hollywood Hills. I would
say they're either going to the cock Pancock Park, or
(40:30):
or uh be headed to like Colin Cowhard's area, like
Santa Monica above Montana. They're not coming to Palace Verdi's.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Not above the hill?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Why not nice?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
They don't want those majestic views.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
It's so nice up there, anyway, can I can I
ask you, like your takeaway on Colorado's spring game, like
you did?
Speaker 6 (41:02):
I mean, look over the window, LeVar in that brand
new studio is Berno wearing a big cowboy hat and
the prime jacket.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
And I'm out of town, I'm in, I'm remote, but
I would assume he isn't I was.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Look. I mean, you guys know how a football team
is built just as well or maybe better than I do.
But and we all know that the transfer portal in
the new era of college football is what it is.
But to me, it seems like a football program is
not a house that you can just gut in in
(41:45):
one off season and put all new furniture in and
go live in it. That's a pretty tall order. The
amount of guys that have turned over there is disturbing,
and you know they don't want to lose all of them,
and that's also disturbing. And the outfit of the spring
game was kind of disturbed. But you know, I don't
(42:09):
know what's going to happen. I don't think they're going
to be very good. And he might he might be
going a little too hard with the hey buddy, you're
getting cut today and all this stuff that we're reading today.
But we'll see. I mean, look, Colorado handed him the keys,
and now he's going to be able to drive any
kind of style he wants for quite some time. And look,
(42:33):
they won one game last year and they'd been a
terrible program for a long time. So there's a lot
of arguments going on. And there's also going to be
a lot of arguments LeVar about how do you treat
players and how do you talk to players and all
this stuff, and they'll be scrutiny will with d On
and then people will say, well, what about Saban and
Kirby Smart, you know, how do they do it? And
(42:53):
maybe you're talking about Dion because he's not one of
those guys, and he's flashy and he's self and I
don't know, I don't know. I don't like what I'm
seeing over there. I really don't. That much turnover is
disturbing to me, I understand flipping a roster, but to me,
it's like, it's a lot more interesting, and it's a
(43:15):
new era and we're all learning, but it's a lot
more interesting when a guy like Bob Stoops comes into
Oklahoma at the turn of the century, right, and he
flipped the roster in a different way. Right. He moved
guys that were playing offense to defense. He moved defensive
guys to offense.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Isn't that The sign of a good coach is when
you take what you have and you develop them and
you move them around and you can make them better.
I mean, this is I don't want to say, like
the easy way out of trying to build back up
you know, Colorado, But it kind of strikes me as
more of isn't Isn't that more what a great coach does.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
He takes something to say.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
Hey, yeah, and if it feels like he's running away
from doing that, he's looking for a fast solution, which
usually never works out in the long run. Although I'm
sure Joel Klatt will try to defend all of what
Prime's doings, given how intricately involved he wasn't getting him
there in the first place.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Well, Joel will go very professorial on all of us,
if we, if we, if we rose, if any concerns
were raised for Joel, will go, will go the opposite
direction and over explain it, and you'd be so tired
of hearing about it. You'll just be like, you're right,
he's great. But uh, I think Brady, that that most
(44:44):
of us that have been around football for a long
time know that there. You know, player development is the
best mark of a great program and sticking with players
and creating you know, having a guy come in and
maybe he's not great when he's eighteen, but when he's
nineteen twenty, he's twenty one years old, he's a great
(45:05):
player for you. That is not lost on most football coaches.
I think even today in the modern era. It's not
the only way to do things. You most everybody probably
would have success doing a little bit of both. But
when you see the opposite, like you said, all of
these guys are crap, we are he yarn't a pulping
(45:27):
them out of a boulder or and you know some
of the guys that are good, see how some of
these guys are treated, and they don't want to hang around.
And I think that's what happened with the receiver from
Inglewood and maybe the running back from last year. Guys
that they do need. I mean, you can't. You can't
just bring in all new people and say all right,
(45:48):
here's your college, here's what we do, and here let's run.
It's going to be really interesting to see how it
plays out. And you're right, Joel's going to be able
to explain it to all of us.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros papadagainst
the Petros money show you Telferno.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
He's doing a play job. And if you got them
scream at me in the morning, then I just don't
know what to do. I couldn't even do the here.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Damn right, a little bit of love here from Petros.
That was full circle there, Petros, we appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
I have to be able to vet my frustrations, especially
if my machine doesn't work. And LeVar, you can come
over here and flip the switch.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, I got you, Hey, Yeah got literally and proverbial.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I am a switch flipper, my guys, Yeah as me
they was talking about Yeah from Big.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
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