May 8, 2023 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to Nikola Jokic elbowing the Suns owner, confusion over the NFL schedule release, and a conspiracy in the Lakers-Warriors series.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's getting spicy in the NBA playoffs. Is things are
heating up? You got Jokic shoving the Sun's owner, possible
suspension looming.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Flop, Yeah, a little.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Bit of a flop.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But you know, listen, any sort of physical altercation between
an owner and a player, that's what we need in
the NBA playoffs. It's going to take it up ratcheted
up a notch. There's some people out there that are
looking into the rules and claiming there could be a
suspension coming here for Nicola Jokic. Highly doubtful considering how
the NBA operates, but nonetheless that's a speculation out there.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So feel like we're getting things are getting a little spicy.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Got a couple of guy, Is that what the Suns
is that the Suns need to have in order to
actually win that series?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I think that word about being a part of the
rest of the series. They can't win it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, come on, we had a great time in
Phoenix for the Super Bowl. Now you get are out there,
NBA team.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm just saying, you've got Kevin Durant, You've got Devin Booker.
I mean, you've got this this team kind of loaded
up of all stars, and you guys still can't beat Denver.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
They're one game close every game they make it. They're
one game closer to getting c P three back too.
You know, there's a possibility he could return for it
for the end of the series.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
CP three whoever else?
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's a very valid point. All right, So let's hear
Do you guys want to hear from.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
No, you don't want to hear sure, don't even want
to know Rady.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Do you want to hear from anybody?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
You want to hear from anybody?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I mean I would love to hear from the boys,
all know, Roberto, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, they're all here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But do you want to hear you guys, Mike Malone
or do you want to hear from Jokic who talked
about the altercation?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Both?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Jokic for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, so let's hear from Jokic, who sounds this
sounds like Rocky for h this is this is Yoka.
It is a racist, that's what he sounds like. But
he was discussing the altercation with the Sons owner last
night after the game.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
The fan put the hand on me for hers. So
I thought the league is supposed to reprotect us or whatever.
So but maybe maybe I'm wrong. So we will see.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Did you happen to know who the fan was? He's
a fan, isn't he?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
He's setting Phoenix Sun's owner.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Sitting on the courts and he's a fan, isn't he.
That doesn't mean that he's a whoever? It isn't he's
a fan. He cannot influence the game by holding the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I just love it. It's just no matter if he does.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
He does, Yeah, if he does, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Because the brothers they travel.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Oh they'll tug it out. Oh yeah, they will thug
it out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
With you, Like I'm not quite sure if that's if
that's the group you want to pick some sort of
an altercation with, if you're the song, I mean, aren't they?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
I mean I could be ignorant on this one, and
I'm sure I'll get the button hit on me. But
isn't isn't that kind of almost like what what Tyson
Fury like?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
The Fury family is?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean kind of aren't they?
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Like I mean, am I horribly wrong or out of
line if I say, like almost like gypsies.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Jokis just serbian? Is that what you're going for?
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I mean like I'm just yeah, I'm just saying if
if there's some way, somehow there there's some type of
relation and in like you know, kind of like the
area or bloodlines or something to that connection doesn't even.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Have to be bloodlines, right, I mean, I've seen the
movie Four Brothers. I know exactly how that stuff works. Yeah,
but they're not from over there. They're they were the
Four Brothers. They was they was from They was from Boston,
wasn't they was that Detroit? It was Boston and then
to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Interesting, we're related and don'ts that's what shows like?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, well that is true.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I just don't want to be the one that dies.
I think I think there's one that like dies, right.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Well, I think we know in our movie which one dies.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But whoever's racing a Churchill downs?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh god?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I mean yeah, I miss mine though, Yeah, I miss
my Zinger. But it's it's all good, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I Mean I don't find that to be true anymore though,
I know what direction you're going.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But I don't. I don't actually find that to be
true anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You knew what direction I was going in my quick
singer that actually out there?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
What direction?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think, I mean, I think the old thought would
be you. You'd assume LeVar would die. Okay, who are
you going after that?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Look at your text message?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh that's messed up?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
I mean, come on, sorry, now, I do think that
Mike Malone.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I think Mike Malone, the head coach of the Denver Nuggets,
is a fan of this show, and most in particular
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I believe that he's a fan of Brady Quinn, and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think that he's very well aware that we have
a fine system in place for certain things.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
That we're not allowed to do on the air.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like if LeVar laments about his time in Washington, he
gets a fine. If I'm passive aggressive, I get a fine.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, if Brady.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Quinn is dismissive and just says he doesn't care about
something on the air in that classic dismissive tone that
he exhibits from time to time, that's a ten dollars fine.
Apparently Mike Malone huge fan of that tactic by Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Take a listen to the Nuggets head coach afterwards.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, I'm still not really sure what happened.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
I haven't seen a video of it.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I think it's crazy that Nicola got technical foul in
that situation. He's going to get the ball and some
fan is holding onto the ball like he wants to
be a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Just get the ball up, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
And you know they deemed Nicola doing something that was excessive.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I guess, and I gave him the tech, But I
still don't really understand it.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
This thing's a fan, it's the owner of the Sons.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Made any difference, I don't give you made it?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
You know it's I really don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Do you think every single player in the NBA is
aware of who the Phoenix Sun's owner.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Is, Like they're supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No, But but I'm asking you, like, first off, he
recently Matt Ishuba.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Is that he pronounce his last.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'll be honest with you, I don't know it.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
But the point is he recently took over his majority
owner and I kind of look at it and go,
I wonder how many people are looking around, you know,
court side and.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Going, oh, that's there, there's an owner. There's an ownor
like I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Remember, like when I was playing for them, I could
have given two craps. If there was an owner around
besides the owner that I was playing for, I could
have given two craps. And I also wasn't like out
there looking for that anyway.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Maybe he was, maybe he's more aware of it.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I don't know, but I think it's a little bit
much to assume that, you know, everyone's gonna know what
that owner looks.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Like, especially when like they're kind of dressed down in person.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Like, Yeah, It's one thing when you're in a room
and you've got a bunch of people and you're around
shaking hands and you're like, oh, this room's filled with
NBA owners.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's one thing.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
It's another thing when like you kind of like see
someone who's not dressed how you thought they'd be, or
not in a spot you thought they'd be.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I mean, how many.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Times do you kind of, like, you know, see someone
that you're like, oh, I know this person is, but
you know they're not in their uniform or they're not
how I usually see them. They're they're dressed down in
something else, I don't recognize him quite the same, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, he looked like a wealthy like probably say he.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Looked like a fan. Yes, he just he looked like
a fan sitting on the sitting court.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Side court site.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
See what he is Scottsdale, Like, here's my thing, right,
here's what really kind of it's like almost like an
irk irking type of situation.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They say irkle.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I was like, oh kind of, I'm not Racle, not
quite Rkle, but just irks irks me. Is that if
that was a regular fan, what happens to that fan?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
If if that's a regular fan, what's the narrative from
from the media, Because the narrative from the media is
did you know that was the owner? Like it's almost
like it's like, okay, in any other circumstance, Jokic is right,
like he's right, like give me the ball, like get
out of the way, like what are you doing? Right,
(08:32):
But the fact that it's like, oh, did you know
that's the owner? Oh my gosh, Like the owner's holding
the ball. The owner's holding the ball. Like if that's
anybody else in the stadium, they run the risk or
run the chance of being escorted out of the arena.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And also to Mike Malone's point, give the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Back, give the ball, like, let the one all go back.
Like if you watch, he was holding onto the ball and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He also touched it. He also touched Yokics first. Yeah,
like if you look.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
At who kind of touches he touched Yogics, Which that's
something that I mean, it's just it's a weird dynamic.
It's one that you know, I really can't relate to
having played football because you don't really get around fans
in that capacity, at least now where you're competing. You know,
there's no one really up on you quite like that.
The NBA is different in that way, right, you're kind
of you're kind of more vulnerable. You don't have on
(09:19):
a helmet and pads, and well we have pads on,
but it's not quite like shoulder pads. You know, you've
you're kind of more exposed because they're right up there
on the court. And I think it lends itself to
a lot of more what you see in the NBA,
where you see the interaction with the players and fans
and sometimes altercations break out, and in this case, it's like,
just because you're sitting there, don't don't be touching players.
(09:40):
Don't think you have the ability to even as an
owner of your own team, that's your own players.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
That's that's the hypocrisy of this entire conversation is if
he's not the owner, this this is an entirely different conversation,
Like why is that? Why is the narrative conversation different
because he was he's the owner, So oh he has
the right to be a moron on on the court
because oh he's the owner. Like, oh, did you know
(10:07):
that's the owner? Like he's a fan, Like you just
asked me once. He's a fan. Okay, you just asked
me twice. He's a fan. Shouldn't you be protecting the
players from the spectators? Like and Nicole is one hundred correct,
it's correct. You're not letting nobody else do that. So
why are you letting oh because it's the owner, Like, nah,
(10:29):
that doesn't that doesn't deem it correct or all right?
Or now the narrative is something different. We have to
look at the rule book on this. Now, if he
if that's a regular fan, he's going to be handled
as such.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
If anything, he's.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
An owner sample. I mean that that's the reality of it.
If anything, you.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Should want your your owner, your owners, if.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
They're in that spot, to be conducting themselves the way
you'd hope fans.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Would conduct themselves.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And it's like you shouldn't be touching players and you
shouldn't be holding up a game like that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
LaVar, you told us a story one time where you
were at to leave the sideline of a Penn State
stake and all you were doing was arguing a call.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, okay, Like imagine if you had put your right
there for that on one of the players.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Nah, that was that was many many.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Joe was still the head coach and I was I
was like, what kind of a call is that? Like,
that's that's what I said, Like this has got Like
I said, what kind of a call is that? And
then I said the next thing I said was, you
do know this is Beaver Stadium.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
We are in Happy Valley.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
And he told he told somebody, if this dude is
on the sideline when I come out, we're not We're
not starting the game until he's off the field.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
That's awnest the gout true.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
A referee did that because I was just complaining about
the and it was a horrible call. He made like
several horrible calls, like they were egregiously horrible. But in
the end, I wasn't. I wasn't harassing the referee.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I was.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I was in the midst of talking about the game,
just like anyone else. He chose to single me out,
which was fine, but to go that deep with it,
like and listen, I wasn't. I don't know if he was,
if he meant it or not. I left, like, you know,
I leave the field anyway. I want to go get me.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I'm not going to challenge this story, all right, but
I mean, we did talk about your presence at the
Penn State Delaware game this year, and you have said emphatically.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You will be there. You will be there.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Representing your son, representing Penn State for the first half
and then you're you're gonna retail game the second half.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
So and you did say that's kind of your move move.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
So like I kind of feel like when the refs
said this to you, like I was.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Kind of like you anyway, I'm out here. I'm out
here anyway.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I was out of here anyway, his stupid son of
a Yeah, you I was going to leave anyway. I
was leaving anyway. Yeah, now call a better game, bitch
about that. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't change anything about the
way you're calling the game.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Me being here and not being here.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
See, you've guess surprised though, I didn't have more security around.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
He's a multi multi billionaire.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Dan Snyder used to walk around with dudes that was
ready to take your life, man.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, but Dan Snyder's jacked. Come on, what does that mean?
I don't know, just making it up.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Dad used to walk around with them two dudes, man,
and you knew that that your life was in trouble.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Just say, I.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Thought there'd be like more of a kerfluffle if if
like I mean, there should have been more like dudes
around him anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I just for a guy who's like, we're a billion
millionaire multi multiple times over, even after Yo Kich kind
of pushed him back and he flopped like like everyone.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Else does in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You just you would have thought that there was gonna
be like security up on it to kind of divide
things up, and there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It was a little bit odd to see that, I.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Guess with an owner and a guy who's worth billions
and billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Want to be part of the action.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Dressed down, he's like like the common man just sitting
in front hanging out.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, that's kind of cute. Yeah, you're very relatable like that.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I guess my thought is more like, how many other
owners are watching that thinking, Oh, they're standing up for
Ishbia or they're saying, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
That's like not what we want, Like, this is the
last thing we.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Want is for you guys to get in an altercation
with one of the best players in the league has
been a multiple MVP over the past few years.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They probably look at it and say, all right, that's
the optics are bad.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
You're the new guy here, like act accordingly, go.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Get in a box like you usually do, and start
entertaining some business.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Ye know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2 (14:59):
So there's a little bit of confusion going on in
the National Football League. Adam Schefter sent out a tweet
I think a couple of weeks ago, saying that the
target date and it might actually it might have been
around the NFL Draft, but he said the target date
for the NFL to release their schedule, the big schedule
release show they do, was going to be this Thursday,
(15:19):
coming up on the eleventh. Well, you go and look
around and search around, and there's no real clarity. You
go to NFL dot com and there's like a page
dedicated to the schedule release, but there's no real information there.
It just says, you know, stay tuned and come back
for further details.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And then Peter King.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Reported this that over the weekend, Peter King was told
that there were concerns regarding the completion of the schedule
by the deadline, and there's a possibility that it could
still be ready in time, but there's uncertainty and it
raises questions about the league's ability to deliver as promised. Wow,
we're fourty so we're four days away from the schedule
release and they don't have it done yet. What am
(16:02):
I missing here? What have they been doing?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think when you factor in the difficulties of the
Aaron Rodgers trade just got finalized.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
A couple of weeks ago, right, and.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
They've got these international games that are probably harder to
figure out than most realize, because you know, a player
like that going to the Jets. The Jets without Aaron
Rodgers might be a one or two primetime playoff game team.
Now there are five, you know, they'll have five primetime games.
That changes around where wherever you put them, whether it's
(16:35):
a Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night, you know, however
else you sprinkle that in, and then I think it
also impacts how those games.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Are looked at the in the four o'clock windows.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Like whether people realize this, the four o'clock Sunday window
is the biggest window for viewing. It used to be primetime,
used to be Sunday night. It's not anymore. I don't
think at any point it really was Monday night, even
though it's primetime. It definitely hasn't been Thursday night. But
that four pm window when there's maybe only a couple
of games on, but like the entire country is getting
either on CBS or Fox, one of those those major
(17:09):
brands in the NFL, that's going to outrate a lot
of other games, even in primetime so figuring that out
it's a lot more difficult than people realize, especially when
you have a superstar move, you know, relatively close to
the release. Then you factor in what the Saints and
Patriots are play in Germany, You've got other games and
you know, London and everything else, and how you go
(17:31):
about figuring that out. Teams have the option to choose
to have a buy after their London trip, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So there's just a lot of moving parts to it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Now to your point, I would assume the schedule makers,
Howard Katz, I think it's who from the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
NFL does it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
That you would have multiple renditions of this, Like we
would have a schedule where if Aaron Rodgers is a
jet and if Aaron Rodgers decides to play back with
the Packers, or if Aaron Rodgers is even with the
San Francisco forty nine ers that was like a report
they were interested. Yeah, you would have all those different
variations of a schedule and you kind of go from there.
(18:07):
But there could be some some moving parts in regards
to like an international game. Hey in Germany, we're trying
to look at this venue at this time. Oh, there's
a there's a there's a big you know, October fest,
you know, deal going on, so you can't use the
facilities at that time or something.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't know, but you.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Know what I'm saying, like, there's just so many things
that I think are involved in deciding some of this
that it's probably not quite as easy as we think
in our heads, like.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
They already have it done.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You think they got it done.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah, I just think.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
That it It just furthers the entertainment value of it
to to allow for leaks like that to come out, Like, yes,
that everything that that you're saying, Q, I believe to
be be accurate, But to say, well that we're this
close to the announcement and that's what's scared. I mean,
(19:02):
how long do you think that they're working on the
schedules in advance?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I mean, let's be clear, there's probably.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
A great length that the people who do the schedule
making run the information, you know, all the data and
all those so for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And here's the issue with that.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So much like even in college football, where there's rights
to certain conferences and then they have essentially a draft
based on who has priority each week, who has priority
throughout the season, then who has Priorty each week. So
it's going to be very similar in the sense with
Fox and CBS. You know, and you've seen some of
the games too that I think they've kind of swapped
(19:45):
at times. So that stuff happens. So what potentially could
happen is, you know, because they want to announce the
TV times along with this, is the TV partners are
still going back and forth with swapping.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Out some names.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, that's fair and that stuff, Like, I'll be fully transparent,
this is going on right now in college football. It'll
take till the end of May before some of this
stuff is sorted out, and even then, even then it
won't be fun to change. Yeah, it could still change
where you get into the season and you have what's
called a six day pick, a twelve day pick where
(20:20):
one of the networks has the top pick and then
they don't tell their their broadcast crew until you know,
whatever time that is.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That stuff happens for sure in college football.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
In the NFL, it's a little more scheduled and regimented
and you kind of have more of an idea of
when those games are. But you could you could have
the chance where Fox and CBSA we're gonna swap these games,
was right.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Wasn't The Penn State Purdue game originally supposed to be
the ESSPN game. And that was that part of the
Joe Buck Troy Aikman trade.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, a lot of people don't didn't know that, but
that was part of Joe Buck going to Monday Night football.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
With Troy Aikman because he was under contract.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Fox got in return of Joe Buck as part of
the trade. The Penn State Purdue game that kicked off
last year's season, uh in West Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
How about that, LeVar we are is the reason that
that deal was able to be compiled.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The way and well game, I mean the final minutes.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, we went up in there and trapped to pull
it out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Took care of business you did?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, I mean it was you guys were winning.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Clifford throws a pick six, which subsequently the dB who
picked it off ended up throwing up on the sidelines,
which is quite excite to see in person.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Did he really?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah? And then Clifford drives the team down the field.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I believe he hit the back out of the backfield
like on an all out pressure flipped it to him.
For a touchdown to go back up in front. I
mean it was a Sean Clifford experience.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Do you see, Sean, You see Sean Clifford's got Aaron
Rodgers spot in the packers locker room now right. I
mean the body's not even cold and they already rolled
in Shawn cliff.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hey, that's that's my sand X guy right there. Man,
that's that. That's the Ohio bloody.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
At the same age.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know that is true. Yeah, showed up. Respect, that
is true. Respect your elders. Respect now. Also one of
the this is Mike Florio put this out as far
as the NFL schedule goes that the NFL has been
trying to figure out solutions. Again, supposed to be launched
in four days, but we're still working on solutions. And
(22:18):
he says a team of computers has been working to
generate various alternatives offering potential solutions to the scheduling conundrum.
The league is determined to provide fans with an exciting
and competitive season, but it seems that unexpected challenges have arised.
So you mean to tell me, like there's artificial intelligence.
You got cars that can drive themselves, but computers can't
(22:39):
figure out how many times they want to show the
Titans on national TV.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well, come on, man, I'm telling they're basically telling the people,
the living, the living organisms us that what you want
is and what you're getting. Yeah, said listen, man, this
is the game that we we're trying to tell you anywhere,
like now we don't want that game, but.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We're trying to tell you that this is the game. Now.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
We don't want that game. We don't we don't want
that matchup. That's That's what it sounds like. AI is
saying something that's higher intelligence of what the game is
supposed to be, and the people who are are looking
at it and running it, they're like, hell no, we
ain't doing that. Yeah, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, I mean it is reported though for those Germany games.
And I don't know if this is going to interview,
if you're with october Fest or not, but are we
going to to Germany?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yeah, I mean said, let's go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh man, I would all for it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I've already put the request in with Scott and Don
and I think they're yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Let's all go. Hey, we'll catch a Ramstein concert war
out there.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Why not? I'm like, do that he win in Rome.
You know, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But that's not Rome, that we're actually in Rome.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Dah whatever, Hamburg, who cares. Point is we're gonna have
Saints leave. Saints Patriots is.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
One of the games.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And the Matt Naggi revenge game Chiefs Bears is.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The eyes and that's real. You know that's not artificial.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
There's real drama when you're talking about those teams scoring
off in the history behind them.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Great point.
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Speaker 2 (24:55):
So we started off the show talking about the scene
that was last night in the desert between the Suns
and the Denver Nuggets. You had nikolea Jokic get into
an altercation with the Phoenix Sun's owner. He was given
a technical he defended himself, as head coach Mike Malone
defended himself. There's been a back and forth, will there
(25:17):
be a suspension, etc.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And then we've got this that has popped up in
the Lakers Warriors series, which is heading into Game four
coming up later on tonight, from thecrypto dot org or
whatever the hell it's called there in downtown Los Angeles.
But apparently there's an issue with the free throw attempts
in this game that's been pointed out. And I know,
(25:41):
Brady Quinn, you did a deep dive on this and
found some proof of this, just saying.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Don't give me credit for me doing a deep dive. Okay,
I'm just regurgitating what is already out there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I mean, there's according to a Twitter account called Warriors Muse.
All right, so you know, consider the source, but the
free throw attempts in this series thus far is the
Lakers with eighty three and the Warriors with thirty nine,
(26:16):
and the plus forty four is the largest through three
games of a playoff series since the Miami Heat in
two eleven and twenty eleven, so over a decade since
we've seen anything like this before, and that has caused
some to wonder if there's some favoritism being directed in
(26:37):
the direction of the Los Angeles Lakers, right.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
And there's a further point too that kind of portrays
the difference in how these calls are being made. This
person went on to show the Lakers and Warriors had
the exact same number of drives to the basket per
game this playoffs are both sitting about thirty five per game,
(27:03):
and that was going into last night's game. And so
the interesting thing or conclusion that you draw is obviously
the Lakers are getting more calls to get to the
free throw line as opposed to the Golden State Warriors.
And look, I'm not one to dive into a bunch
of conspiracy theories. I'll just all kind of shoot it
(27:25):
how I see it, and I would say this, the
NBA's ratings have taken a hit.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right, we know this.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So we've talked about this for a long time on
this show. People think that we're NBA haters.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We're not.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Like, I love basketball. It's still one of my favorite
sports to play and especially watch. I think the difficulty is,
you know, it's hard during the course of the regular
season because of load management and even sometimes how the
game is played to be as engaged once you're in
the playoffs, like I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm all in, I love it. The intensity to it.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Stars for the most part, are usually out there playing.
Maybe's still some load management going on. But the point
is is it's it's must see TV. And one of
the conclusions that you draw the more you watch is
the game's changed in in a variety of ways, but
it's still compelling.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
There's still different storylines to it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
But even with all of that, it's still not getting
or garnering the attention. I mean, last night, for example,
you had James Harden hit a game winner.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I mean, it was followed up by a shot by.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Marcus Smart, who didn't hit it in regulation, has a
chance to win in overtime. The ball was still in
his hand though before he released right, so a lot
of drama, great game. That Boston Philly series has been
a ton of fun to watch and as have you know,
has every other series for the most part in the
NBA playoffs. But what did we lead off the show
with Joe Kich getting into it with Ishba, the owner
(29:00):
of the Suns. Like that is the headlines that seem
to draw for some reason around the league. And it's
not hard to then think that if you are a
TV you know, executive, that you're not hoping and if
you're the NBA, you're not hoping that you find a
way for one of the biggest brands to make it
to the NBA Finals, Like you need a win right now,
(29:22):
and the biggest win that I think you're gonna have
is Lebron at this point in time in his career.
Is the Lakers at this point you know, at this
point time, given they are, you know, outside of the
New York Knicks, who are still around that other big
media market that would obviously draw and there's Laker Nation
that that's strong. I mean, it's not that hard to
think that the NBA, and I'm not saying they're actively
(29:44):
involved in this, but there's not a lot of people
who are hoping that it's the Lakers that find their
way through the Western Conference. Like, I don't think that's
going out there too far on a limb to say
that's what the hope is. Nothing against Denver, nothing against Phoenix,
nothing against Golden State. They've kind of been they've seen that,
done that, like they would want to see a Lakers
team that when they were back in the bubble, everything
(30:05):
was down. You weren't getting the same ratings, wasn't the
same engagement. No one took it as seriously. Jonah Stilton's
Day calls it at half a championship.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Wherever you define it.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
It was the captain EO Cup. I mean that's what
it was.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean, but I think you see My point is
the TV networks are clamor for it, and the NBA
probably is hoping to some degree it happens, because also
at Lebron's age, you don't know how many more chances
you're going to get for him to be in the
finals with a shot to win it. And I think
this year it's working out right now at least where
they at least have a huge statistical advantage at getting
(30:40):
some free shots at the free throw line.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And that's not my opinion, that's just fact. Look at
the stats that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are Wait, are you trying to tell me? Are you
trying to say that the NBA is officiating the Lakers
differently because the NBA has a vested interest in the Lakers,
advancing that it would be better for the brand?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I think I took two minutes to say that, but
you were able to accurately summarize.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
In a matter of seconds.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Clear here. So so you were calling a conspiracy that I.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Mean, I said I didn't want to call it that.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You were going to call it that, So you go
go ahead and run with it, but make sure your
name's on it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Would they clip this later?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
When whoever is responsible Fox Sports Radio for clipping these
headlines that are either obsolete or they go ahead and
attach someone else's name to it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
They didn't say you want that.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Dove where to go?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Jonas, way to knock it.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Down, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It was just an excuse to play the unsolved mysteries, Steve,
that's all.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So what you were saying was you bought the bottle
of bear seven PM. That's what you're saying. So you're
saying you bought the bottle of Bear at nine pm.
Brady Quinn, you know you've been messed up, right, Yeah
what you say? I know you're ann ff it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So do you so now that because this is being
talked about, by the way, this isn't just made up.
And if for anybody listening the fanboys that are Laker
fans listening on the blowtorch am five to seventy LA Sports,
these are real discussions that are being had by a
lot of people who are noticing the different statistically. So
if that's being said, and maybe the NBA knowing that, yeah,
(32:25):
maybe there's some pressure mounting towards we need to even
things up, would you not think that maybe they would
come back around in Game four later on tonight and all.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Of a sudden, Golden State.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now that it's being made public and people are discussing it,
maybe Golden State it's a few more of those calls.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
The NBA does that they do make up calls in games,
and it feels like one team that might have an
advantage one game, if you get to the next one,
maybe they'll try it.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Even things out here.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I mean, I mean, there's there's definitely elements of that
Golden State. What was what was the differential in free
throws in the last night?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I think the Lakers got thirty seven free throw attempts
to I believe, what is it seventeen?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Efforting here, So the Lakers got twenty more free throw attempts,
which you know the game was won by thirty. So
you're sitting this thing. I didn't obviously play that big
of an impact in it, but it does in momentum.
It doesn't swings and in different ways, I think throughout
the course of the game, and there was no doubt,
you know, I think in the second half it felt
(33:31):
like it was pretty definitive, or maybe second quarter it
felt pretty definitive that things were starting to slide the
way of the La Lakers at that point.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It is kind of bizarre that the NBA continues to
find themselves in these spots, you know, like there's always
something that pops up to where you look at it
from game to game and you go, how's that happen?
And then everybody discusses it, and it just it always
feels like there's some sort of controversy or somebody that
continues to hold on to the Tim Donahey, and as
(34:01):
we talked about the NFL and them having to lay
the hammer down on these guys that are making bets
even on non NFL games, because now gambling is a
part of it all. The perfect example that is Tim donaghey,
and people still don't let that go. They still are
convinced that there are biases that happen in the NBA,
that officials are in on it or at least have
(34:24):
agendas when it goes into officiating a game. And so
when this stuff pops up, the NBA still has to
defend their credibility based on one official who got popped
gambling on games. And then it has consistently said for
a long time now there were other people involved that
are still in the NBA. And yet here we are
(34:44):
again still having the conversation. It feels like it still
pops up all the time. So that being said, by
the way, Warriors plus three tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Apply it to other sports though, I mean, imagine having
that sort of huge discrepancy and penalties.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
It always gets brought up. Yeah, you know when we
talk about NFL.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Games where there's a big discrepancy in the then the
you know, flags that are thrown for one scene versus
the other, and a huge discrepancy in yards and how
that equates then to points and sustaining drives.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It always gets brought up. I mean, it seems like
for you know, to.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Some degree, when it's your team that gets that advantage,
like everyone's kind of mum. But it's only a matter
of time before it happens to your team, right, Maybe
not if you're a Lakers fan this year at this point.
But I'm just saying it is a bit odd that
the NBA, you know, for as many games they play,
you know, the officials, and as much as you know
they see the same team, same players, the same type
(35:34):
of scheme and all that you could have that big
of a discrepancy at this point in time in the season.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Are there any other discrepancies refing wise and other games?
I mean, I'm sure we don't want to see the
Heat and the Lakers again, I don't know if we
want to see the you know, I don't know who
who you know.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
Out of New York and what that is.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
The if you look at for example, Denver in Phoenix,
Phoenix took I believe twenty nine free throw attempts and
you had the Nuggets at what twenty three, right, so
they're not that far off. There's not that big of
a discrepancy. And look, here's the thing. Maybe you could
say it's an outlier, but this wasn't like just last night,
(36:19):
Like this has literally been so far throughout the playoffs,
as you kind of pointed out, with the Lakers and
the Warriors have then an identical number of drives to
the basket, but like the wars aren't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Getting the calls and the Lakers are.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, so it's just it's odd that that's the way
it kind of seemed to work out. And if you
look at the I believe the Philly in the Boston game,
they had the exact same amount of free throw attempts
last night.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And it's also it's like in the NFL, when a
team doesn't run the ball in comparison to another team, well,
the game kind of dictates whether or not you throw
that out the window. If you're trailing, you're obviously not
going to run the balls much or rush the balls off.
And because you're trying to get back into the game,
and the NBA in a one off situation, and it's
not foreign to think that one team would have significantly
(37:04):
more free throw attempts than the other because the other
one's trying to play catch up and shoot a bunch
of threes, and so the counter to well, Golden State's
a jump shot team, so of course they're not going
to have as many free throw attempts. And as you
point out, if they're going to the basket the same
amount of times and not getting the calls. But one
team is what else is it?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It just like all the proof is pointing in that direction,
so you know. And then also, by the way, your
Miami Heat are going to be playing later on tonight,
Brady Quinn. That's right, Game four up to one on
the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
The Heat.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, and by the way.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Can't be good for ratings?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
What just can't be appreciating or the Heat?
Speaker 7 (37:45):
What do you mean they can't be great for ratings?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Jimmy Buckets isn't good for ratings?
Speaker 7 (37:50):
No? Come on, nope.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, but you know people in the NBA want to
go to Miami to cover the finals.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
I mean, ideal scenario for the NBA is Knicks Lakers,
Like that would be the biggest ratings they've had in
for US. So I don't think it's or Celtics Lakers
would be well, but the Knicks big market market.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Yeah, you're worried about the market.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I mean, think about how nuts Madison Square Garden would be.
I mean, so many you know fans who actually aren't
like you know fans, but they're there. I mean, you'd
be the Battle of East and West of the fake fans,
you know, people who just go.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
To the game to be seen or actually fans.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I mean, how could you do that?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
You get all those people show up for the game
and they're like, hey, where were you back in January?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Were you coming to Knicks games back then?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Just going coast to coast everybody.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Going on in that area right now too?
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, go can'ts formula some Formula one and going on.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
The Cats?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Yeah three oh man yeats Cats them to the top.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yes, Toronto maple Leafs are like, hey, man, finally got
over the hurdle past the first round, no problem in
round two?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oops oops?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, good for them though, that's karma for all the
bad drivers that come down in the South.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Florida and now Canada is kidding, so la got it?
New York and now Kansas.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
You see those Canadian plates driving out look out, all right,
it's a they're like that that whole I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
The least they could do is improve their drive and
go to ti Raq, you know what.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I maybe they're too polite.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I hear you.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's getting spicy in the NBA playoffs. Is things are
heating up? You got Jokic shoving the Sun's owner, possible
suspension looming.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Flop, Yeah, a little.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Bit of a flop.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But you know, listen, any sort of physical altercation between
an owner and a player, that's what we need in
the NBA playoffs. It's going to take it up ratcheted
up a notch. There's some people out there that are
looking into the rules and claiming there could be a
suspension coming here for Nicola Jokic. Highly doubtful considering how
the NBA operates, but nonetheless that's a speculation out there.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So feel like we're getting things are getting a little spicy.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Got a couple of guy, Is that what the Suns
is that the Suns need to have in order to
actually win that series?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I think that word about being a part of the
rest of the series. They can't win it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, come on, we had a great time in
Phoenix for the Super Bowl. Now you get are out there,
NBA team.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm just saying, you've got Kevin Durant, You've got Devin Booker.
I mean, you've got this this team kind of loaded
up of all stars, and you guys still can't beat Denver.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
They're one game close every game they make it. They're
one game closer to getting c P three back too.
You know, there's a possibility he could return for it
for the end of the series.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
CP three whoever else?
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's a very valid point. All right, So let's hear
Do you guys want to hear from.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
No, you don't want to hear sure, don't even want
to know Rady.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Do you want to hear from anybody?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
You want to hear from anybody?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I mean I would love to hear from the boys,
all know, Roberto, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, they're all here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But do you want to hear you guys, Mike Malone
or do you want to hear from Jokic who talked
about the altercation?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Both?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Jokic for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, so let's hear from Jokic, who sounds this
sounds like Rocky for h this is this is Yoka.
It is a racist, that's what he sounds like. But
he was discussing the altercation with the Sons owner last
night after the game.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
The fan put the hand on me for hers. So
I thought the league is supposed to reprotect us or whatever.
So but maybe maybe I'm wrong. So we will see.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Did you happen to know who the fan was? He's
a fan, isn't he?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
He's setting Phoenix Sun's owner.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Sitting on the courts and he's a fan, isn't he.
That doesn't mean that he's a whoever? It isn't he's
a fan. He cannot influence the game by holding the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I just love it. It's just no matter if he does.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
He does, Yeah, if he does, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Because the brothers they travel.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Oh they'll tug it out. Oh yeah, they will thug
it out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
With you, Like I'm not quite sure if that's if
that's the group you want to pick some sort of
an altercation with, if you're the song, I mean, aren't they?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
I mean I could be ignorant on this one, and
I'm sure I'll get the button hit on me. But
isn't isn't that kind of almost like what what Tyson
Fury like?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
The Fury family is?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean kind of aren't they?
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Like I mean, am I horribly wrong or out of
line if I say, like almost like gypsies.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Jokis just serbian? Is that what you're going for?
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I mean like I'm just yeah, I'm just saying if
if there's some way, somehow there there's some type of
relation and in like you know, kind of like the
area or bloodlines or something to that connection doesn't even.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Have to be bloodlines, right, I mean, I've seen the
movie Four Brothers. I know exactly how that stuff works. Yeah,
but they're not from over there. They're they were the
Four Brothers. They was they was from They was from Boston,
wasn't they was that Detroit? It was Boston and then
to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Interesting, we're related and don'ts that's what shows like?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, well that is true.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I just don't want to be the one that dies.
I think I think there's one that like dies, right.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Well, I think we know in our movie which one dies.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But whoever's racing a Churchill downs?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh god?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I mean yeah, I miss mine though, Yeah, I miss
my Zinger. But it's it's all good, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I Mean I don't find that to be true anymore though,
I know what direction you're going.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But I don't. I don't actually find that to be
true anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You knew what direction I was going in my quick
singer that actually out there?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
What direction?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think, I mean, I think the old thought would
be you. You'd assume LeVar would die. Okay, who are
you going after that?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Look at your text message?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh that's messed up?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
I mean, come on, sorry, now, I do think that
Mike Malone.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I think Mike Malone, the head coach of the Denver Nuggets,
is a fan of this show, and most in particular
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I believe that he's a fan of Brady Quinn, and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think that he's very well aware that we have
a fine system in place for certain things.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
That we're not allowed to do on the air.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like if LeVar laments about his time in Washington, he
gets a fine. If I'm passive aggressive, I get a fine.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, if Brady.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Quinn is dismissive and just says he doesn't care about
something on the air in that classic dismissive tone that
he exhibits from time to time, that's a ten dollars fine.
Apparently Mike Malone huge fan of that tactic by Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Take a listen to the Nuggets head coach afterwards.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, I'm still not really sure what happened.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
I haven't seen a video of it.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I think it's crazy that Nicola got technical foul in
that situation. He's going to get the ball and some
fan is holding onto the ball like he wants to
be a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Just get the ball up, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
And you know they deemed Nicola doing something that was excessive.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I guess, and I gave him the tech, But I
still don't really understand it.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
This thing's a fan, it's the owner of the Sons.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Made any difference, I don't give you made it?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
You know it's I really don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Do you think every single player in the NBA is
aware of who the Phoenix Sun's owner.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Is, Like they're supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No, But but I'm asking you, like, first off, he
recently Matt Ishuba.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Is that he pronounce his last.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'll be honest with you, I don't know it.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
But the point is he recently took over his majority
owner and I kind of look at it and go,
I wonder how many people are looking around, you know,
court side and.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Going, oh, that's there, there's an owner. There's an ownor
like I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Remember, like when I was playing for them, I could
have given two craps. If there was an owner around
besides the owner that I was playing for, I could
have given two craps. And I also wasn't like out
there looking for that anyway.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Maybe he was, maybe he's more aware of it.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I don't know, but I think it's a little bit
much to assume that, you know, everyone's gonna know what
that owner looks.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Like, especially when like they're kind of dressed down in person.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Like, Yeah, It's one thing when you're in a room
and you've got a bunch of people and you're around
shaking hands and you're like, oh, this room's filled with
NBA owners.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's one thing.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
It's another thing when like you kind of like see
someone who's not dressed how you thought they'd be, or
not in a spot you thought they'd be.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I mean, how many.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Times do you kind of, like, you know, see someone
that you're like, oh, I know this person is, but
you know they're not in their uniform or they're not
how I usually see them. They're they're dressed down in
something else, I don't recognize him quite the same, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, he looked like a wealthy like probably say he.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Looked like a fan. Yes, he just he looked like
a fan sitting on the sitting court.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Side court site.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
See what he is Scottsdale, Like, here's my thing, right,
here's what really kind of it's like almost like an
irk irking type of situation.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They say irkle.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I was like, oh kind of, I'm not Racle, not
quite Rkle, but just irks irks me. Is that if
that was a regular fan, what happens to that fan?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
If if that's a regular fan, what's the narrative from
from the media, Because the narrative from the media is
did you know that was the owner? Like it's almost
like it's like, okay, in any other circumstance, Jokic is right,
like he's right, like give me the ball, like get
out of the way, like what are you doing? Right,
(08:32):
But the fact that it's like, oh, did you know
that's the owner? Oh my gosh, Like the owner's holding
the ball. The owner's holding the ball. Like if that's
anybody else in the stadium, they run the risk or
run the chance of being escorted out of the arena.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And also to Mike Malone's point, give the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Back, give the ball, like, let the one all go back.
Like if you watch, he was holding onto the ball and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He also touched it. He also touched Yokics first. Yeah,
like if you look.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
At who kind of touches he touched Yogics, Which that's
something that I mean, it's just it's a weird dynamic.
It's one that you know, I really can't relate to
having played football because you don't really get around fans
in that capacity, at least now where you're competing. You know,
there's no one really up on you quite like that.
The NBA is different in that way, right, you're kind
of you're kind of more vulnerable. You don't have on
(09:19):
a helmet and pads, and well we have pads on,
but it's not quite like shoulder pads. You know, you've
you're kind of more exposed because they're right up there
on the court. And I think it lends itself to
a lot of more what you see in the NBA,
where you see the interaction with the players and fans
and sometimes altercations break out, and in this case, it's like,
just because you're sitting there, don't don't be touching players.
(09:40):
Don't think you have the ability to even as an
owner of your own team, that's your own players.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
That's that's the hypocrisy of this entire conversation is if
he's not the owner, this this is an entirely different conversation,
Like why is that? Why is the narrative conversation different
because he was he's the owner, So oh he has
the right to be a moron on on the court
because oh he's the owner. Like, oh, did you know
(10:07):
that's the owner? Like he's a fan, Like you just
asked me once. He's a fan. Okay, you just asked
me twice. He's a fan. Shouldn't you be protecting the
players from the spectators? Like and Nicole is one hundred correct,
it's correct. You're not letting nobody else do that. So
why are you letting oh because it's the owner, Like, nah,
(10:29):
that doesn't that doesn't deem it correct or all right?
Or now the narrative is something different. We have to
look at the rule book on this. Now, if he
if that's a regular fan, he's going to be handled
as such.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
If anything, he's.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
An owner sample. I mean that that's the reality of it.
If anything, you.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Should want your your owner, your owners, if.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
They're in that spot, to be conducting themselves the way
you'd hope fans.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Would conduct themselves.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And it's like you shouldn't be touching players and you
shouldn't be holding up a game like that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
LaVar, you told us a story one time where you
were at to leave the sideline of a Penn State
stake and all you were doing was arguing a call.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, okay, Like imagine if you had put your right
there for that on one of the players.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Nah, that was that was many many.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Joe was still the head coach and I was I
was like, what kind of a call is that? Like,
that's that's what I said, Like this has got Like
I said, what kind of a call is that? And
then I said the next thing I said was, you
do know this is Beaver Stadium.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
We are in Happy Valley.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
And he told he told somebody, if this dude is
on the sideline when I come out, we're not We're
not starting the game until he's off the field.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
That's awnest the gout true.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
A referee did that because I was just complaining about
the and it was a horrible call. He made like
several horrible calls, like they were egregiously horrible. But in
the end, I wasn't. I wasn't harassing the referee.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I was.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I was in the midst of talking about the game,
just like anyone else. He chose to single me out,
which was fine, but to go that deep with it,
like and listen, I wasn't. I don't know if he was,
if he meant it or not. I left, like, you know,
I leave the field anyway. I want to go get me.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I'm not going to challenge this story, all right, but
I mean, we did talk about your presence at the
Penn State Delaware game this year, and you have said emphatically.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You will be there. You will be there.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Representing your son, representing Penn State for the first half
and then you're you're gonna retail game the second half.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
So and you did say that's kind of your move move.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
So like I kind of feel like when the refs
said this to you, like I was.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Kind of like you anyway, I'm out here. I'm out
here anyway.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I was out of here anyway, his stupid son of
a Yeah, you I was going to leave anyway. I
was leaving anyway. Yeah, now call a better game, bitch
about that. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't change anything about the
way you're calling the game.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Me being here and not being here.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
See, you've guess surprised though, I didn't have more security around.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
He's a multi multi billionaire.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Dan Snyder used to walk around with dudes that was
ready to take your life, man.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, but Dan Snyder's jacked. Come on, what does that mean?
I don't know, just making it up.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Dad used to walk around with them two dudes, man,
and you knew that that your life was in trouble.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Just say, I.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Thought there'd be like more of a kerfluffle if if
like I mean, there should have been more like dudes
around him anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I just for a guy who's like, we're a billion
millionaire multi multiple times over, even after Yo Kich kind
of pushed him back and he flopped like like everyone.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Else does in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You just you would have thought that there was gonna
be like security up on it to kind of divide
things up, and there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It was a little bit odd to see that, I.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Guess with an owner and a guy who's worth billions
and billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Want to be part of the action.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Dressed down, he's like like the common man just sitting
in front hanging out.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, that's kind of cute. Yeah, you're very relatable like that.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I guess my thought is more like, how many other
owners are watching that thinking, Oh, they're standing up for
Ishbia or they're saying, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
That's like not what we want, Like, this is the
last thing we.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Want is for you guys to get in an altercation
with one of the best players in the league has
been a multiple MVP over the past few years.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They probably look at it and say, all right, that's
the optics are bad.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
You're the new guy here, like act accordingly, go.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Get in a box like you usually do, and start
entertaining some business.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Ye know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
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Speaker 2 (14:59):
So there's a little bit of confusion going on in
the National Football League. Adam Schefter sent out a tweet
I think a couple of weeks ago, saying that the
target date and it might actually it might have been
around the NFL Draft, but he said the target date
for the NFL to release their schedule, the big schedule
release show they do, was going to be this Thursday,
(15:19):
coming up on the eleventh. Well, you go and look
around and search around, and there's no real clarity. You
go to NFL dot com and there's like a page
dedicated to the schedule release, but there's no real information there.
It just says, you know, stay tuned and come back
for further details.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And then Peter King.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Reported this that over the weekend, Peter King was told
that there were concerns regarding the completion of the schedule
by the deadline, and there's a possibility that it could
still be ready in time, but there's uncertainty and it
raises questions about the league's ability to deliver as promised. Wow,
we're fourty so we're four days away from the schedule
release and they don't have it done yet. What am
(16:02):
I missing here? What have they been doing?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think when you factor in the difficulties of the
Aaron Rodgers trade just got finalized.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
A couple of weeks ago, right, and.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
They've got these international games that are probably harder to
figure out than most realize, because you know, a player
like that going to the Jets. The Jets without Aaron
Rodgers might be a one or two primetime playoff game team.
Now there are five, you know, they'll have five primetime games.
That changes around where wherever you put them, whether it's
(16:35):
a Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night, you know, however
else you sprinkle that in, and then I think it
also impacts how those games.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Are looked at the in the four o'clock windows.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Like whether people realize this, the four o'clock Sunday window
is the biggest window for viewing. It used to be primetime,
used to be Sunday night. It's not anymore. I don't
think at any point it really was Monday night, even
though it's primetime. It definitely hasn't been Thursday night. But
that four pm window when there's maybe only a couple
of games on, but like the entire country is getting
either on CBS or Fox, one of those those major
(17:09):
brands in the NFL, that's going to outrate a lot
of other games, even in primetime so figuring that out
it's a lot more difficult than people realize, especially when
you have a superstar move, you know, relatively close to
the release. Then you factor in what the Saints and
Patriots are play in Germany, You've got other games and
you know, London and everything else, and how you go
(17:31):
about figuring that out. Teams have the option to choose
to have a buy after their London trip, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So there's just a lot of moving parts to it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Now to your point, I would assume the schedule makers,
Howard Katz, I think it's who from the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
NFL does it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
That you would have multiple renditions of this, Like we
would have a schedule where if Aaron Rodgers is a
jet and if Aaron Rodgers decides to play back with
the Packers, or if Aaron Rodgers is even with the
San Francisco forty nine ers that was like a report
they were interested. Yeah, you would have all those different
variations of a schedule and you kind of go from there.
(18:07):
But there could be some some moving parts in regards
to like an international game. Hey in Germany, we're trying
to look at this venue at this time. Oh, there's
a there's a there's a big you know, October fest,
you know, deal going on, so you can't use the
facilities at that time or something.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't know, but you.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Know what I'm saying, like, there's just so many things
that I think are involved in deciding some of this
that it's probably not quite as easy as we think
in our heads, like.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
They already have it done.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You think they got it done.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah, I just think.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
That it It just furthers the entertainment value of it
to to allow for leaks like that to come out, Like, yes,
that everything that that you're saying, Q, I believe to
be be accurate, But to say, well that we're this
close to the announcement and that's what's scared. I mean,
(19:02):
how long do you think that they're working on the
schedules in advance?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I mean, let's be clear, there's probably.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
A great length that the people who do the schedule
making run the information, you know, all the data and
all those so for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And here's the issue with that.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So much like even in college football, where there's rights
to certain conferences and then they have essentially a draft
based on who has priority each week, who has priority
throughout the season, then who has Priorty each week. So
it's going to be very similar in the sense with
Fox and CBS. You know, and you've seen some of
the games too that I think they've kind of swapped
(19:45):
at times. So that stuff happens. So what potentially could
happen is, you know, because they want to announce the
TV times along with this, is the TV partners are
still going back and forth with swapping.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Out some names.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, that's fair and that stuff, Like, I'll be fully transparent,
this is going on right now in college football. It'll
take till the end of May before some of this
stuff is sorted out, and even then, even then it
won't be fun to change. Yeah, it could still change
where you get into the season and you have what's
called a six day pick, a twelve day pick where
(20:20):
one of the networks has the top pick and then
they don't tell their their broadcast crew until you know,
whatever time that is.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That stuff happens for sure in college football.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
In the NFL, it's a little more scheduled and regimented
and you kind of have more of an idea of
when those games are. But you could you could have
the chance where Fox and CBSA we're gonna swap these games,
was right.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Wasn't The Penn State Purdue game originally supposed to be
the ESSPN game. And that was that part of the
Joe Buck Troy Aikman trade.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, a lot of people don't didn't know that, but
that was part of Joe Buck going to Monday Night football.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
With Troy Aikman because he was under contract.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Fox got in return of Joe Buck as part of
the trade. The Penn State Purdue game that kicked off
last year's season, uh in West Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
How about that, LeVar we are is the reason that
that deal was able to be compiled.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The way and well game, I mean the final minutes.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, we went up in there and trapped to pull
it out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Took care of business you did?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, I mean it was you guys were winning.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Clifford throws a pick six, which subsequently the dB who
picked it off ended up throwing up on the sidelines,
which is quite excite to see in person.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Did he really?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah? And then Clifford drives the team down the field.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I believe he hit the back out of the backfield
like on an all out pressure flipped it to him.
For a touchdown to go back up in front. I
mean it was a Sean Clifford experience.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Do you see, Sean, You see Sean Clifford's got Aaron
Rodgers spot in the packers locker room now right. I
mean the body's not even cold and they already rolled
in Shawn cliff.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hey, that's that's my sand X guy right there. Man,
that's that. That's the Ohio bloody.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
At the same age.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know that is true. Yeah, showed up. Respect, that
is true. Respect your elders. Respect now. Also one of
the this is Mike Florio put this out as far
as the NFL schedule goes that the NFL has been
trying to figure out solutions. Again, supposed to be launched
in four days, but we're still working on solutions. And
(22:18):
he says a team of computers has been working to
generate various alternatives offering potential solutions to the scheduling conundrum.
The league is determined to provide fans with an exciting
and competitive season, but it seems that unexpected challenges have arised.
So you mean to tell me, like there's artificial intelligence.
You got cars that can drive themselves, but computers can't
(22:39):
figure out how many times they want to show the
Titans on national TV.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well, come on, man, I'm telling they're basically telling the people,
the living, the living organisms us that what you want
is and what you're getting. Yeah, said listen, man, this
is the game that we we're trying to tell you anywhere,
like now we don't want that game, but.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We're trying to tell you that this is the game. Now.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
We don't want that game. We don't we don't want
that matchup. That's That's what it sounds like. AI is
saying something that's higher intelligence of what the game is
supposed to be, and the people who are are looking
at it and running it, they're like, hell no, we
ain't doing that. Yeah, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, I mean it is reported though for those Germany games.
And I don't know if this is going to interview,
if you're with october Fest or not, but are we
going to to Germany?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yeah, I mean said, let's go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh man, I would all for it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I've already put the request in with Scott and Don
and I think they're yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Let's all go. Hey, we'll catch a Ramstein concert war
out there.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Why not? I'm like, do that he win in Rome.
You know, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But that's not Rome, that we're actually in Rome.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Dah whatever, Hamburg, who cares. Point is we're gonna have
Saints leave. Saints Patriots is.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
One of the games.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And the Matt Naggi revenge game Chiefs Bears is.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The eyes and that's real. You know that's not artificial.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
There's real drama when you're talking about those teams scoring
off in the history behind them.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Great point.
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Speaker 2 (24:55):
So we started off the show talking about the scene
that was last night in the desert between the Suns
and the Denver Nuggets. You had nikolea Jokic get into
an altercation with the Phoenix Sun's owner. He was given
a technical he defended himself, as head coach Mike Malone
defended himself. There's been a back and forth, will there
(25:17):
be a suspension, etc.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And then we've got this that has popped up in
the Lakers Warriors series, which is heading into Game four
coming up later on tonight, from thecrypto dot org or
whatever the hell it's called there in downtown Los Angeles.
But apparently there's an issue with the free throw attempts
in this game that's been pointed out. And I know,
(25:41):
Brady Quinn, you did a deep dive on this and
found some proof of this, just saying.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Don't give me credit for me doing a deep dive. Okay,
I'm just regurgitating what is already out there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I mean, there's according to a Twitter account called Warriors Muse.
All right, so you know, consider the source, but the
free throw attempts in this series thus far is the
Lakers with eighty three and the Warriors with thirty nine,
(26:16):
and the plus forty four is the largest through three
games of a playoff series since the Miami Heat in
two eleven and twenty eleven, so over a decade since
we've seen anything like this before, and that has caused
some to wonder if there's some favoritism being directed in
(26:37):
the direction of the Los Angeles Lakers, right.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
And there's a further point too that kind of portrays
the difference in how these calls are being made. This
person went on to show the Lakers and Warriors had
the exact same number of drives to the basket per
game this playoffs are both sitting about thirty five per game,
(27:03):
and that was going into last night's game. And so
the interesting thing or conclusion that you draw is obviously
the Lakers are getting more calls to get to the
free throw line as opposed to the Golden State Warriors.
And look, I'm not one to dive into a bunch
of conspiracy theories. I'll just all kind of shoot it
(27:25):
how I see it, and I would say this, the
NBA's ratings have taken a hit.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right, we know this.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So we've talked about this for a long time on
this show. People think that we're NBA haters.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We're not.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Like, I love basketball. It's still one of my favorite
sports to play and especially watch. I think the difficulty is,
you know, it's hard during the course of the regular
season because of load management and even sometimes how the
game is played to be as engaged once you're in
the playoffs, like I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm all in, I love it. The intensity to it.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Stars for the most part, are usually out there playing.
Maybe's still some load management going on. But the point
is is it's it's must see TV. And one of
the conclusions that you draw the more you watch is
the game's changed in in a variety of ways, but
it's still compelling.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
There's still different storylines to it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
But even with all of that, it's still not getting
or garnering the attention. I mean, last night, for example,
you had James Harden hit a game winner.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I mean, it was followed up by a shot by.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Marcus Smart, who didn't hit it in regulation, has a
chance to win in overtime. The ball was still in
his hand though before he released right, so a lot
of drama, great game. That Boston Philly series has been
a ton of fun to watch and as have you know,
has every other series for the most part in the
NBA playoffs. But what did we lead off the show
with Joe Kich getting into it with Ishba, the owner
(29:00):
of the Suns. Like that is the headlines that seem
to draw for some reason around the league. And it's
not hard to then think that if you are a
TV you know, executive, that you're not hoping and if
you're the NBA, you're not hoping that you find a
way for one of the biggest brands to make it
to the NBA Finals, Like you need a win right now,
(29:22):
and the biggest win that I think you're gonna have
is Lebron at this point in time in his career.
Is the Lakers at this point you know, at this
point time, given they are, you know, outside of the
New York Knicks, who are still around that other big
media market that would obviously draw and there's Laker Nation
that that's strong. I mean, it's not that hard to
think that the NBA, and I'm not saying they're actively
(29:44):
involved in this, but there's not a lot of people
who are hoping that it's the Lakers that find their
way through the Western Conference. Like, I don't think that's
going out there too far on a limb to say
that's what the hope is. Nothing against Denver, nothing against Phoenix,
nothing against Golden State. They've kind of been they've seen that,
done that, like they would want to see a Lakers
team that when they were back in the bubble, everything
(30:05):
was down. You weren't getting the same ratings, wasn't the
same engagement. No one took it as seriously. Jonah Stilton's
Day calls it at half a championship.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Wherever you define it.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
It was the captain EO Cup. I mean that's what
it was.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean, but I think you see My point is
the TV networks are clamor for it, and the NBA
probably is hoping to some degree it happens, because also
at Lebron's age, you don't know how many more chances
you're going to get for him to be in the
finals with a shot to win it. And I think
this year it's working out right now at least where
they at least have a huge statistical advantage at getting
(30:40):
some free shots at the free throw line.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And that's not my opinion, that's just fact. Look at
the stats that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are Wait, are you trying to tell me? Are you
trying to say that the NBA is officiating the Lakers
differently because the NBA has a vested interest in the Lakers,
advancing that it would be better for the brand?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I think I took two minutes to say that, but
you were able to accurately summarize.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
In a matter of seconds.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Clear here. So so you were calling a conspiracy that I.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Mean, I said I didn't want to call it that.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You were going to call it that, So you go
go ahead and run with it, but make sure your
name's on it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Would they clip this later?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
When whoever is responsible Fox Sports Radio for clipping these
headlines that are either obsolete or they go ahead and
attach someone else's name to it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
They didn't say you want that.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Dove where to go?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Jonas, way to knock it.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Down, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It was just an excuse to play the unsolved mysteries, Steve,
that's all.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So what you were saying was you bought the bottle
of bear seven PM. That's what you're saying. So you're
saying you bought the bottle of Bear at nine pm.
Brady Quinn, you know you've been messed up, right, Yeah
what you say? I know you're ann ff it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So do you so now that because this is being
talked about, by the way, this isn't just made up.
And if for anybody listening the fanboys that are Laker
fans listening on the blowtorch am five to seventy LA Sports,
these are real discussions that are being had by a
lot of people who are noticing the different statistically. So
if that's being said, and maybe the NBA knowing that, yeah,
(32:25):
maybe there's some pressure mounting towards we need to even
things up, would you not think that maybe they would
come back around in Game four later on tonight and all.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Of a sudden, Golden State.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now that it's being made public and people are discussing it,
maybe Golden State it's a few more of those calls.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
The NBA does that they do make up calls in games,
and it feels like one team that might have an
advantage one game, if you get to the next one,
maybe they'll try it.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Even things out here.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I mean, I mean, there's there's definitely elements of that
Golden State. What was what was the differential in free
throws in the last night?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I think the Lakers got thirty seven free throw attempts
to I believe, what is it seventeen?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Efforting here, So the Lakers got twenty more free throw attempts,
which you know the game was won by thirty. So
you're sitting this thing. I didn't obviously play that big
of an impact in it, but it does in momentum.
It doesn't swings and in different ways, I think throughout
the course of the game, and there was no doubt,
you know, I think in the second half it felt
(33:31):
like it was pretty definitive, or maybe second quarter it
felt pretty definitive that things were starting to slide the
way of the La Lakers at that point.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It is kind of bizarre that the NBA continues to
find themselves in these spots, you know, like there's always
something that pops up to where you look at it
from game to game and you go, how's that happen?
And then everybody discusses it, and it just it always
feels like there's some sort of controversy or somebody that
continues to hold on to the Tim Donahey, and as
(34:01):
we talked about the NFL and them having to lay
the hammer down on these guys that are making bets
even on non NFL games, because now gambling is a
part of it all. The perfect example that is Tim donaghey,
and people still don't let that go. They still are
convinced that there are biases that happen in the NBA,
that officials are in on it or at least have
(34:24):
agendas when it goes into officiating a game. And so
when this stuff pops up, the NBA still has to
defend their credibility based on one official who got popped
gambling on games. And then it has consistently said for
a long time now there were other people involved that
are still in the NBA. And yet here we are
(34:44):
again still having the conversation. It feels like it still
pops up all the time. So that being said, by
the way, Warriors plus three tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Apply it to other sports though, I mean, imagine having
that sort of huge discrepancy and penalties.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
It always gets brought up. Yeah, you know when we
talk about NFL.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Games where there's a big discrepancy in the then the
you know, flags that are thrown for one scene versus
the other, and a huge discrepancy in yards and how
that equates then to points and sustaining drives.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It always gets brought up. I mean, it seems like
for you know, to.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Some degree, when it's your team that gets that advantage,
like everyone's kind of mum. But it's only a matter
of time before it happens to your team, right, Maybe
not if you're a Lakers fan this year at this point.
But I'm just saying it is a bit odd that
the NBA, you know, for as many games they play,
you know, the officials, and as much as you know
they see the same team, same players, the same type
(35:34):
of scheme and all that you could have that big
of a discrepancy at this point in time in the season.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Are there any other discrepancies refing wise and other games?
I mean, I'm sure we don't want to see the
Heat and the Lakers again, I don't know if we
want to see the you know, I don't know who
who you know.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
Out of New York and what that is.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
The if you look at for example, Denver in Phoenix,
Phoenix took I believe twenty nine free throw attempts and
you had the Nuggets at what twenty three, right, so
they're not that far off. There's not that big of
a discrepancy. And look, here's the thing. Maybe you could
say it's an outlier, but this wasn't like just last night,
(36:19):
Like this has literally been so far throughout the playoffs,
as you kind of pointed out, with the Lakers and
the Warriors have then an identical number of drives to
the basket, but like the wars aren't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Getting the calls and the Lakers are.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, so it's just it's odd that that's the way
it kind of seemed to work out. And if you
look at the I believe the Philly in the Boston game,
they had the exact same amount of free throw attempts
last night.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And it's also it's like in the NFL, when a
team doesn't run the ball in comparison to another team, well,
the game kind of dictates whether or not you throw
that out the window. If you're trailing, you're obviously not
going to run the balls much or rush the balls off.
And because you're trying to get back into the game,
and the NBA in a one off situation, and it's
not foreign to think that one team would have significantly
(37:04):
more free throw attempts than the other because the other
one's trying to play catch up and shoot a bunch
of threes, and so the counter to well, Golden State's
a jump shot team, so of course they're not going
to have as many free throw attempts. And as you
point out, if they're going to the basket the same
amount of times and not getting the calls. But one
team is what else is it?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It just like all the proof is pointing in that direction,
so you know. And then also, by the way, your
Miami Heat are going to be playing later on tonight,
Brady Quinn. That's right, Game four up to one on
the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
The Heat.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, and by the way.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Can't be good for ratings?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
What just can't be appreciating or the Heat?
Speaker 7 (37:45):
What do you mean they can't be great for ratings?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Jimmy Buckets isn't good for ratings?
Speaker 7 (37:50):
No? Come on, nope.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, but you know people in the NBA want to
go to Miami to cover the finals.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
I mean, ideal scenario for the NBA is Knicks Lakers,
Like that would be the biggest ratings they've had in
for US. So I don't think it's or Celtics Lakers
would be well, but the Knicks big market market.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Yeah, you're worried about the market.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I mean, think about how nuts Madison Square Garden would be.
I mean, so many you know fans who actually aren't
like you know fans, but they're there. I mean, you'd
be the Battle of East and West of the fake fans,
you know, people who just go.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
To the game to be seen or actually fans.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I mean, how could you do that?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
You get all those people show up for the game
and they're like, hey, where were you back in January?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Were you coming to Knicks games back then?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Just going coast to coast everybody.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Going on in that area right now too?
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, go can'ts formula some Formula one and going on.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
The Cats?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Yeah three oh man yeats Cats them to the top.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yes, Toronto maple Leafs are like, hey, man, finally got
over the hurdle past the first round, no problem in
round two?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oops oops?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, good for them though, that's karma for all the
bad drivers that come down in the South.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Florida and now Canada is kidding, so la got it?
New York and now Kansas.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
You see those Canadian plates driving out look out, all right,
it's a they're like that that whole I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
The least they could do is improve their drive and
go to ti Raq, you know what.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I maybe they're too polite.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
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