May 30, 2023 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Heat end the Celtics Cinderella comeback, but neither team is matched well vs the Nuggets. Brady celebrates Notre Dame winning the lacrosse title and wonders why it’s not a more popular sport. DeAndre Hopkins has options so where is he most likely to land?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with lamar As, Rady Win and Jonas knots
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Tuesday morning? Right,
come on the Miami Heat excited?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
About damn time, South Aloria. They pull one together, stopped
stopped history. Yeah, it was a daunting task.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Although now I'm just concerned for Joe Miszula, you know.
I mean, he wasn't a good coach. Jonas wanted to
fire him, that he was a good coach. It was
almost a historic comeback, and now they lose a game
seven at home. Now it's it's probably back to Jonas
thinking he should be fired again.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I listen. All I did was point out that there's
some thought that he could be out if they got swept,
and there was a real thought. I was not the
only one.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is that thought gone now?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think that thought was gone after they brought him
back and they tied it up three apiece, But it
was a shoot around last night. That thought was there,
and ultimately that's not really the story. The story is no,
it is the Miami Heat getting it done. Just everybody
breaking out the violence. Well, I mean it was like, Labar,
(01:10):
have you heard anybody else talk about Joe Miszoula could
be in trouble if the Celtics got swept.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But doesn't that seem like just a bad take if
literally two games after that, when they started to come back,
that was never even a thought or consideration, And then
I think what you saw last night was just an
example of I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mean, they were unlucky.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
If Tatum doesn't get hurt in the first twenty seconds,
thirty seconds, that's probably a different ballgame.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
At least.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It feels like that took all the wind out of
the sales of Boston, all the momentum, everything else, and.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You knew he just wasn't gonna be able to move
and play the exact same way he's winning d up.
I'll say this, I won't say it was a bad
take at three to Oho. It was not a bad
take at three to Oho because most all these coaches
that got fired losing in the playoffs. I won't say
three to zero hit them heading towards a straight sweep.
It was a bad take Jonas. But I will say
(02:06):
it's interesting that at that at the point in time
that they did tie up the series, that everybody had
to change their approach as to how they were talking
about the Celtics head coach.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean, it just is what it is. That's the
NBA Playoffs. It's a roller coaster feeling from game to game.
One team's this, one team's that, this, Like it just
felt like going and you got a hashtag that by
the way, this league, it felt like going into last night.
If there was gonna be a team that was going
to blow an opportunity at history, it would be the Celtics,
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and it would be against a team like the Heat,
who apparently just don't give a rip about what happened
in Game six and their heart getting ripped out because
they got in there, they got on a roll after
the Tatum injury and that game wasn't close.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, apparently the Celtics didn't care either. I mean, your
boy Jayalen Brown, dangnare had what a triple double with
turnovers being one of the cat stories of the triple double.
I mean, but do you have like eight or nine
turnovers in the game like that? I mean, they shot poorly.
If I guess if you're gonna go out, go out
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the way that you play your style of ball, but
that just that's a mind blower to me that you
would come out in the final game of the series,
You're at home and you can't find the rim, like
you can't find the bottom of the net, like I don't.
That's just very perplexing. It was a very it was
(03:32):
a very disheartening Game seven like that to me, for
all the build up of it, it's I guess you
could look at Miami and say, if you're a Miami fan,
you could say, look at the grit and the intestinal
fortitude that they came out with to play that game.
But in reality, I would have liked for it to
(03:53):
have been a much more competitive Game seven. It was
just not It just did not seem competitive. It may
you wonder how did it get to a game seven?
How did they pull three games in a row. Know,
Tatum hurt his ankle and he heard it early. But
you still have other players during the course of the series,
during the course of the playoffs that have stepped up
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and have done things. Marcus Smart has stepped up. Jayalen
Brown is an All NBA or He needed to step up.
You know, guys needed to step up, and they did it.
They didn't step up well, and it did seem like
very much of a competitive game.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
For game seven, it's fairly simple. When you go nine
for forty two from three, is that bad? It's atrocious
to shoot around? They lost the shoot around, I mean,
but that's what the NBA has become is more often
than not, you look at who shoots better at three,
especially the amount of three as usually are taken, and
that tells you the story, and especially if you start
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to hit early, and it was like the heat were
necessarily hot early, they just hit a few more. I
think the Celtics were zero for eleven and then that
was a Horford hit the first one.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They're like one for twelve.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And when you're watching that, you're like, well, they're gonna
keep shooting because that's what they do. And eventually you'd
have to think the odds are in their favor to
start shooting better. But they really hadn't been great the
past two games, and every time they lost it was
a product of just not shooting the three ball.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, seven thirty five last game, two from three. Yeah,
that's horrible, man.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And could go back through their losses like look for
the first three games, like.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The it's just when they don't shoot, well, it's a
wrap they don't have the ability to. I don't know
if it's just have an inside presence, find ways of
getting to the rack and just getting a few buckets
to like keep them amendumber, keep them in games. But
it I mean at game seven at home, I mean,
if there's no better or more familiar confines and it
didn't feel it feel like they could really put up
the type of you know, mass, I don't know that
(05:47):
you thought they were going to.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
If you guys got forty two opportunities at just a
wide open three, you think you get it nine shots? Yes, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Really wide open. I'm not like even at a game
like jumps like.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Shoot around, Yeah, to shoot around, I don't know. Oh
yeah it's from NBA three. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Forty two times hit more than nine to twenty three
feet six inches. You can bang that out LaVar from
the corner.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You ever seen Hoosiers? Yeah, I'm like Jimmy Chitwood in
that thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, I believe you. I'm just saying, yeah, Miss Jays.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He's been working for a while. Man, Just Chopper Quinn
taught me back in sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I remember I jumped, threw up a shot, hit that thing,
and he goes, hey, Son, he goes, that's a jump shot.
I go, what do you mean? He's like, what you
just did is a jump shot. Because when you're young,
you learned like a set shot. You don't really know
how to elevate and then let that thing go at
the peak of your release. And I remember I did
it once and it messed me up. I was messed
up for like a good six months because then I
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was trying to figure out, well, Chopper, when do I
use a set shot?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
When do I use a jump shot? He's like, Son,
that's something you got to figure out.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I was like, oh damn, profound that. Then I'm trying
to figure this whole thing out. And then finally I
found it. Pount just come around screens.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Just what I could see you be a hooper? What
I could see that you got a hooper's body. Yeah,
I would I would have been bowing you in the
face though. I would like that's the type of dude.
I was like, Look, I would have never I would
never let you had a chance. Look, I was Brady
Baseline running around and running the whole thing. I would
have got you to put that for on right on,
(07:24):
right on your face. It's a moving target. Right on
that moving target.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
There's no post.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Look at this moving look.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
At this pretty mother constant court like pom in his face.
And I would have officiated the game. You guys were
They would have kicked me out, but it would have
been okay.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But then I would have opened up a burner account
and defended myself on Twitter. You know, that's a great point.
It's a great point. Oh yeah, the Eric Lewis Lewis, Yes,
it's great.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But you confirmed that is that's not like a rumor like,
it's confirmed. It his personal email.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Somebody who used the account said it was his brother.
I don't know if they found the email account attached
to it, but somebody said that it was his brother
responding and then deleted the account right afterwards. It's him.
I don't know how anybody believes it. It's not, but yeah,
that's the.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Investigator was officiating last night.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, he was not. And there was some speculation that
the two officials, Tony Brothers and Scott Foster, the heat
were zero to ten this year and dealing with those
two officials so there was some thought that maybe they
were in a rough way when it came to the Celtics,
but as Brady pointed out, Jason Tatum got hurt, the
Celtics were never able to recover. It felt like they
were never in that game. And then Eric Spolstra, the
(08:38):
head coach of the Miami Heat on their way to
another FBA Finals, he spoke after the game about this
Heat team and just sort of their mindset as they
approached last night in Boston.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
We don't care what the rest of the world is saying.
We don't care who's criticizing who. You got a line
up between these four lines and let's figure this out.
And I think that's the nature of this team that
I think, you know, a lot of people respect what
happened last year. You know obviously was on our mind
and it drove us this year. And that's what you
always hope for competition, that it can drive you to
(09:13):
a higher level. And I think that's what you saw
in this series this year, to be able to have
to overcome a lot.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Of stuff cannot Am I the only one that came
away from Ernie doing his interview with Bam and coach
Spochstra wondering what the hell was the video that they watched.
Bam was like, yeah, we watched this inspirational video that
(09:39):
got is going.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And Ernie was like, well, so what was the video about.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
He's like, hey, da, da da, don't worry about that, this,
that and the other. And then Spostra he stops the
interview with Bam because Bam didn't answer the question. Asked
Spostra the same exact question. Sposter grabs him by his shoulders,
like with both hands, and says the video isn't important,
and then starts the answer in a different way. I
(10:05):
wonder what the video was like was it? Was it
Bucky Larson, you know, because Bucky couldn't get right, Bucky
couldn't get right, And they said it was a movie
of motivation and motivated them to be able to finish
and get it done. You know, Bucky Larson is one
of those inspirational movies where you know, he figured out
how to finishing and get it done, and I mean
(10:27):
he was really good at it.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I did not think we're gonna mention Bucky Larson.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I've just started thinking what type of movie was it
that they watched? Where both player and coach danced around,
just like it's as simple. We watched remember the Titans.
We watched Hoosiers, Like, I mean, what was it? What
was the movie?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I've told you before a game. We watched the Bronx Tail,
the scene when they walk into the bar and the
banker game.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Now you can't leave, Now you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Now you can leave, And I remember thinking like, this
is pretty dope. This is a badass. Before we're got
to ask whoop the next day.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But that but but before the game it felt great.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Man. Before it's like, oh man.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Now you can't you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
We lose, Now use can't leave.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They beat that ass too. I got a theory and
knock the bikes over. I think that they watched the
movie The Town, and I think they did so because
Joe Missoula said not long ago that he watches that
movie about four times a week, and I think they
were probably yeah, that's what he said. He said he
watches The Town probably about four times a week. And
I think they wanted to detrol Joe Missoula in the Celtics, right.
(11:41):
They didn't want to go public.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, that's a nice, that's a nice that's a
nice pool and I think eventually it'll come out that's
a nice pool. But they did not want to say
what the movie was, yeah, which I thought was like peculiar,
Like maybe that's like whoa, like why you don't want
to say what the movie was?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Maybe they got some Santapio's. You know, they sit down,
they watch the town, how you're doing, little little little Boston.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And there Santapio's. Is that is that a place in Boston?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
People in Boston?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Though? Okay, maybe it was at the part.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
South Though regardless of the outcome last night, I don't
feel like either of these teams have a shot versus Denver.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
No, yeah, there's no I think this is the better matchup.
I hate to say it, because you have two very
gritty and very very physical teams that are about to
play and Bam, I don't think we'll back down to
to the Joker obviously, Butler is not going to back down.
So that's going to be a cool matchup, depending on
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who's who's guarding him. But you know, when you think
of Jamal Murray, which it may be, what's my guy Gordon?
Gordon may be the one that is tasked with with
Gardon Butler.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You think heat Nuggets is a better matchup? Yeah, I do.
I think so. Well, here's okay, You're.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
While I would love to agree with you, they're just
wildly inconsistent. They're just they're just so inconsistent that it's
just like I just don't think that they would have
been able to deal with Denver. I think it would
have been a sweet that would have been a sweet matchup.
But this one, I think that they're really going to
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bang like this going. It might not be the sexiest
of matchups, but I think this is the right one.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
You know, Ki is such a like he's just a
different player than like, I feel like any anything else
or any type of player in the NBA right now,
with his skill set for as big as he is
and how he plays, he's just a tough matchup and
the way they facilitate their offense.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I'm curious, Jonas, because usually you're up on these
sorts of things. You know, usually you've.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Got an idea as far as like Game one NBA Finals,
there's got to be a line out as far as
whose favorite is not. I feel like if the Celtics
were favored by what was it last night?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Seven and a half, eight and a half?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It went down to seven, right, seven?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Okay, wouldn't you have to think that Denver is going
to be a favored by at least that with the
rest the fact that they've they've largely been a better
team the entirety of the season. Even if you think
it's a good matchup, I would think the opening lit
would be somewhere around seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Eight would have not.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Eight and a half. So the Denver Nuggets are eight
and a half point favorites. It's in Denver. And also,
by the way, yeah and look the heat. They planned
to travel to Denver right afterwards, so they I think
a lot of people looked into that and said, oh
my god, they're already guaranteeing the win. They traveled, they
packed twice. They're going straight to Denver after the game
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last night, So what are they supposed to do? Go
back to Miami and then fly to Denver like that
was the plan. That really would have pissed me off though,
if they would have lost that game last night and
they would have had a pack twice because I hate packing,
that would have pissed me off. Yeah, not at all,
and I'm not good at it. No, I'm not. Your
Brady's got a system. He won't share the info with me.
(15:02):
He just keeps everything a secret. You got that military
packing style.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Y's right.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
They don't never look like they have a whole bunch
of bags.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, you get everything into one bag. Yeah. Wow, that's
what you travel light man.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
How do you do it? How you do it?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You gotta ask Chopper. This goes back to the jump
shot story.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm telling you, this is such crap.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's the Chopper.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, but something tells me he's not. He's going to
pass it along to you, and then I'm just gonna
get caught in the middle of travel.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
He gives you a beer and then he starts to
explain it, and then he passes along another beer, and
then he's like, not even through the first part of
how you go about packing, and then then there's a third
beer in your hand, and for you, that slights out
my friend, like you are you aren't making it to
wherever that story was going because you got three beers
in you and the span of about thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, but you guys, you guys are on that bud
light stuff like I'm into like I p as and
things like that. I'm not really did you see the
new bud Light? Did you see the new bud Light model?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I did say that. By the way, make America great again? Yeah,
definitely there is all that be.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
Not that Brady Quinn needs a compliment though, because he
is all of a sudden, the Notre Dame lacrosse team
is the talk of the lacrosse world. How about him?
Holy Lost is getting it done controversial.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Penn State lost, by the way, very well could have
been Penn State in the National Championship as opposed to Duke.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So good. That was awesome, though.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I mean that that group last year they got absolutely
it was bs That's the only way I can put it.
They did that they didn't get in the tournament last year,
and obviously that was a form of redemption.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They kept up.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Last year's players brought the excuse me the NCAA bracket
in their lockers, you know, throughout the past year or so,
they used it as motivation. They came back, they proved
all those who made that poor decision last year wrong,
and they were able to win their first national championship.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Pretty sweet and pretty cool, win or lose.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They had a charity event set up in Philly today
before they take an international trip.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
But kind of cool to.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Commit to something like that knowing that, you know, you
could be coming off heartbreak. And they had a number
of times in NCAA tournament history, you know, falling to
Duke unfortunately, even though they had a good record versus
Duke this year. So pretty pretty sweet though, to see
them be able to get it done like that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I'm excited to see them beat Duke. I need them
to beat Duke.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Sho I didn't get like first off. Hockey is an
amazing game.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I wish I would have played it instead of baseball
growing up, Like now, looking back on it, really Oh yeah,
like lacrosse. To me, if I was to pick a
sport that twenty thirty years from now should be one
of the top sports in this country, yeah, it'd be last.
It is the I mean, it's fast paced, it's physical.
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You know, you've got you've got the element of scoring.
There's the element of strategy. I mean, for example, I
think there's about four minutes left in the game, and
at that point Notre Dame was up maybe it was
there either a three or of four with about four
minutes left, and you know, Duke implemented a strategy where
they pull the goalie. So the goalie comes out of
the goal and he's going to defend someone, and then
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they're going to double team the man who's going to
start the playoff with the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And what do you think the logical.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Thing that you do is, you know, you're saying, okay,
we got to find that the guy who's the goaliees covering,
because the goalie is the you know, least athletic guy
probably on the field. So let's go find that player
and set up a mismatch. Notre Dame calls a time out,
they come back out. They're like, yeah, if they do
this again, we're just gonna throw to that guy. Sure enough,
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he makes a move, gets open, gets the ball, and
that's it was pretty much game over from that point,
Like there's really no chance of do coming back.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But you see all these little elements of strategy that
play a role too, and it's just a cool sport.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's like everything that you know, I like soccer, fans
like about soccer as far as the constant play, you
get elements of that, but there's actually more scoring and
there's more physicality, and no one's flopping out there. Right,
guys are getting whacked and you know, hit left and right,
I mean absolutely blown up.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So it's it's a really really cool fun sport.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What would you guys guess? All right, because I think
I have an answer here.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If this is incorrect, we'll take this out of the
podcast afterwards. What would you guys say is the average
salary for a professional lacrosse player?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Though in the US twenty thousand, uh average, I'll probably
say like eighty sixty four thousand.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Okay, way more than I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I had a buddy that was a year older man
in high school, played in college.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
He had a job, full time job.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
On weekends he would go play, and I think they
still have him.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
There's the PL which is the Professional Across League. Is
that the league you're looking up the stats from.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, And then there's the there's an indoor one, and
I think he used to go play in the indoor one,
but it was like for a few hundred couple grand
like it was almost like a weekend warrior hobby type thing,
but it was a professional.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
League and and and and like he used.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
To do it, like in between he'd be like all like,
you know, bruised up and every going.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
In the office the next week.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's just crazy to think that, like that's sport. For
whatever reason, it's growing in popularity, but it's not quite
where it should be. And I'm telling you it's it's
I don't want to say, it's not that hard to
learn how to you know, actually play and carry a
stick and get those stick skills. It is so cool, man,
I'm telling you, it's one of the coolest sports to
be a part, even for parents especially.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, it's fun to watch. They like they'll whether it's
the NCAA or they'll do some of the professional I've
seen the indoor ones as well too. And that story
about going and doing the weekend warrior thing. A lot
of like professional wrestlers before they actually make it to
the big times, they'll do these independent wrestling shows on
the weekends and still work a full time job and
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they've talked about having to go back into work and
they're all just battered and bruised, and everyone's like, what
the hell are you doing on the weekend.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's how seventies football players were. Yeah, they literally had
newspaper delivery jobs, different like working in the mills and
factories and stuff like that. Yeah, on the off season
they had multiple jobs.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What's the deal Not to completely throw us, you know,
into a ditch, but the whole aae W and Tony
Kahan and I saw something with that with MJD this
past weekend, like what happened there.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't I know sort of what the structure of
AEW is. So Tony Khan, who's the son of Shad
Khan runs right, Yeah, yeah, he runs it. It's their investment,
and that's like his passion even before football and everything else.
He was a big fan of professional wrestling. You would
go to all these independent shows. And so while he
(22:04):
does I think he's in charge of the analytics department
with the Jags, he's also running the soccer team internationally
and he runs AW and so I don't know the
specifics of sort of their interactions, but there's a lot
of people who think that their business structure just makes
no sense whatsoever because they give out a bunch of contracts,
(22:25):
big contracts, with long term deals. They've got a massive roster.
The TV ratings aren't great, the revenue is not all
that great coming in, and nobody can figure out how.
And this goes to show you, and we've talked about
this before how wealthy NFL owners are. Nobody can figure
out how they're able to sustain this because this was
wwe there have to be some cuts because that's all
(22:47):
they got. And the thought is they do so well
running the Jags that this is just kind of like
a hobby. It's just kind of like, yeah, whatever, this
is what he wants to do on the side. So
he's like he's one of those guys that that that's
his passion and he does this on top of all
the other responsibilities he has with the Jags, and and
(23:07):
that speculation about London and the new stadium and the
renovations and all that stuff. And now you see Jacksonville
starting to spark up and actually play well again, and
when a playoff game last year. So yeah, Tony Kahn
is one of those guys who had a passion for
it was always going to these weekend shows, and now
he's got his own wrestling promotion, so.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Okay, And just so you know, like one of the
rest was bisy I guess a post fight press conference
was just saying how, I don't know, maybe he's being
you know, looked up by the WWE, Like there was
this whole thing, but the look on Tony Kahan's face,
oh yeah, was priceless.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Because he's like he's in this competition with WWE, and
it's more more of a one sided competition because their
whole thought like they're looking big picture at these big
you know, these big stadium shows and all this stuff.
And so then these guys come up, these wrestlers, and
they try and use the media and these nerds that
cover wrestling to try and spark rumors, but they don't
(24:04):
really call it marks. Yeah, they're called Marx and they
but they don't run it by Tony Khan at these posts,
at these post wrestling press conferences. And so Tony Khan
is just sitting there going, wait what sitting there while
these guys are airing everybody out and talking trash, and
it's like you're not sure whether or not it's part
of the act or not part of the act. It's
it's pretty interesting to see how it how it all runs.
(24:27):
Maybe the Jag should on a lacrosse team. Hey, why
don't we chip in and on a lacrosse team. I
mean it's a little.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
More it's a little more expensive than you think, but
I would be definitely be down for it. The problem
is I'd put it in a place where it's not
quite as popular yet, and then I try to grow
the popularity like a lot of people who want to
take it to you know, deastinations like the Northeast obviously
popular lacrosse is really popular up up there, or like
the you know, DMV. The problem there is like I
(24:53):
feel like you're just kind of already you know, filling
in what it's already exists. You got to kind of
grow it, build it somewhere else California and uh, you know,
somewhere in the in the Bible Belt, right. I think
there's there's too many athletes. There's too many players that
I watch that are football players that I'm like, you know,
you could transition and play lacrosse and.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You could be a really really good lacrosse.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Player instead of just being a guy who maybe runs track,
or maybe you play a little baseball or just play
spring football. Like, you can't tell me that a lot
of the things you watch those the players doing lacrosse
isn't applicable to what you be doing on a football field.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Jim Brown, one of the most famous of all time
to do lacrosse. I can't imagine it's expensive to play lacrosse.
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
The sticks are expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, so equipment is just like hockey. Yeah, but get equipment.
The hockey's really expensive like that.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But you gotta get equipment. You gotta get covered, like,
you gotta get like, you gotta get equipment for la
for la x lee.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
How much does the lacrosse stick? And we're talking about
the good stuff, not this knockoff?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well did you play lacrosse?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Not ninety nine cent store stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Now, lacrosse is more of an East Coast sport.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, it's grown. We're actually here, but desolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
I'll say, I wanted to play, but it wasn't around here.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's actually a like a Maryland like a Maryland sport. Actually,
like it was really big in Maryland, super big, like
more southern East Coast. You know, I don't know like
I lived in Annapolis, so I you know, under armour
is big on on l a X. You can get
a five piece for like two hundred and fifty bucks
(26:29):
five piece of lacrosse set up. It's not that bad.
And hockey it's like a thousanies. Yeah, you know, like
you got.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Your you're going to like cass.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right about right?
Speaker 8 (26:42):
What I am seeing it advertised as a five piece
lacrosse A.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Couple hundred five piece, No big deal, Hey mom, I
need a new five piece. No, probably three hundred bucks.
Chick sticking.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
By the way, there's no excuse why it's only an
East coast sport. There's no excuse.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
So so so that's not technically true. I mean why
well no, I was just saying like it was popular
when I was going on the Midwest. I mean a
Dublin's Rome High School, which is one of the schools
that has branched out in my hometown. They're one of
the top teams in the country. Like it's it's bigger
than just that. I mean even even in South Florida.
There's there's a school up in Boca that's really really good.
(27:26):
There's a there's a couple others that are out there.
It's it's branched out. It's just not part of the
culture like it is in the Northeast where whether it's
the Northeast or or Maryland like kind of the d
C d m V area, there's a different culture there
where when kids grow up, right, That's what I'm saying,
like they are pushed into that sport.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I don't think anyone's thinking, I don't know what you're
getting pushed into it in California these days. But like
I know, Mas, I know in Ohio, like you had
you had one of three things, track, baseball, or lacron
that was ith.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, it is. It is weird though that that wouldn't
be an option out here that nobody would think like
lacrosse would be. It's just like what is it goes
an option?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's just it's just you know, you get other things
to do in.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, like what what do you what do you think
they're doing out here in California? Like if you had
to guess, like what were a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I mean, you guys are are more in the mix
of there. LeVar is literally deep into it.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I mean he is deep. Deep's baseball out here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Baseball.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Baseball is big, big out here, like in football baseball
and football, I mean in basketball. But we were talking
yesterday Brady about I was just asking, like, what do
I get to look forward to as a parent during
holiday weekends? He said, travel tournaments. If your kid plays sports,
every holiday weekend is a travel tournament. Like the traffic
(28:48):
around our house. There's just baseball field like parking. You
couldn't get it yesterday because I didn't realize it was
like a three or four day baseball tournament. They just have.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So that's what do you choose to email us something
instead of just texting us?
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Because I don't have TikTok and it was the only
way to wait, did you I saw this.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't have to talk either, so WAT just grab right?
Speaker 8 (29:12):
So liad Uh sent the link I didn't have. I
couldn't find it on my phone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Lee sent us a link and it just says lacrosse dads.
This feels like some sort of like weird like fetish
search being who fetish lacrosse dads? WHOA? What is the uh?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
It's a it's a real I guess is what the
kids would call it of just a bunch of lacrosse
dads hanging out at the top of the stands saying
all lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Dads are the same.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
I don't know, I stumbled across it over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
There is a look, there is a look to them
like they there's it's always like some sort of button
up collared shirt like Peter molar Polo with either like
a half zip up hoodie or like one of those
vests that you see people wear. What was the brand
of the Patagonia vest, And then they've got like either
sunglasses and like the the low print hat.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, it's just a look. I'm telling you, man,
that's like the lax dead look.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
All right, well, Lee, we've got it. Yeah, that's the
same look they've got in the video there. Yeah, spot on.
I can't even open the video, but exactly, it's basically
shetting down my laptop. I don't know what's happening here.
It's just not a constant reel that keeps buffering the
entire time. But again, that is That is your update,
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Speaker 2 (31:14):
The speculation about what was going to happen with DeAndre Hopkins,
that's been a story that's been floated out there. He
listed a bunch of other quarterbacks he wanted to play
for or play with rather and then it was like, well,
you're still a member of the Arizona Cardinals. Well, the
thought was last Friday that the decision had been made
they were going to release DeAndre Hopkins. They couldn't find
(31:36):
a trade partner, and apparently it is not official yet.
Apparently with the long holiday weekend, that move has not
been made official. So DeAndre Hopkins, as it stands right
now is still a member of the Arizona Cardinals. But
at four pm Eastern time today, the feeling is the
move will be made and he'll be looking for work,
and the conversation then becomes where does it make the
(31:57):
most sense for DeAndre Hopkins and the Chiefs and the
bills have been heavily speculated. As Albert Breer pointed out,
those are the two teams that any had had any
sort of real trade conversations with Arizona over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There, So yeah, and there's you know, there's a potential
that he still gets traded today, right. I mean that
might have been some of the strategy behind floating out
that he was going to be released and doing it
over the holiday weekend. And I think that was some
of the confusion as well, is because most people thought
it was going to become official come Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Wait a second, it's Memorial It's a holiday, so.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It actually pushes and gives you a little bit more
time until Tuesday. So we'll see if something gets done.
And sometimes it's what teams do to you know, draw
up more interest in a better offer because they don't
like the offers that are currently on the table.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Those two teams make a lot of sense, right, I.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Think for all parties involved, for the Chiefs and Bills,
if it's an arms race and they're trying to go
win a Super Bowl, and if you're Hopkins, you get
to you know, future Hall of Fame coursquarterbacks in my opinion,
and guys who I think you'd want to go play
with that are going to give you the chance of
winning that ring. And that's probably where DeAndre Hopkins is
at at this point. He's had a lot of individual success.
(33:11):
I think he wants to go to a place where
he can now have the ultimate success of winning a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And that might come with taking.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
A lesser role, less targets, less catches, but it might
be more rewarding when it's all said and done. So
a lot of players get to this, you know, this
point in their career and that's sometimes the things that
they're looking for. And it's kind of interesting that Arizona
would just you know, after you know, the speculation and
the things that he had originally said, and then Hopkins
(33:40):
comes out and said, well, he's not necessarily trying to
go anywhere else or who said he wants to go
anywhere else? And it led down a road of you know,
eventually this them releasing him, and it seems like Arizona
wants a fresh start with how they're building back up
this roster, and obviously Hopkins wants a fresh start as well.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I would throw Baltimore in there. You know that there's
a bad decision for DeAndre Hopkins. If it's a team
that has talent, has.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
A quarterback, has stability, I think that if he gets released,
it just makes it a much easier proposition versus getting trade.
Obviously you don't have the choice when you get traded,
but if you get released, you're getting that cash. Arizona's
got to pay you whatever it is that Arizona owes
(34:29):
you out of out of that contract. So it's not
like that that contract is getting absorbed and you just
maintain what it is that you got going on. As
you go to the other.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Team, You're you're getting paid twice now because whatever it
is that that Arizona owed you, they're going to have
to pay you. They don't get to unload that on
someone else, and you don't have to look at it
from the standpoint of let me make that money up.
He doesn't have to make the money up. He can
go in if he wanted to. He could go in
(34:58):
at at market value. He could go in at a
league minimum just to fit into the team he would
want to go to and play with the quarterback that
he want to play with. He doesn't have to be
He doesn't have to go for top dollar. So to me,
I mean he he has he has, I guess, flexibility
(35:20):
if it's all about winning, he has flexibility if it's
really if he gets released, he has the flexibility to
go to a team if they want him. Now, that's
what it ultimately comes down to as well, is do
they want him? You know, do they You're talking about
a guy that two times there's been conversations about what
(35:42):
he could possibly be as a person off the field.
Now I've met DeAndre Hopkins. I thought he was a
dope dude. I think he's a cool dude. But I've
never been his teammate and I've never been his coach,
And people would say that they got rid of him
in Houston to clear out. His presence was in the
locker room. Now people would say they're clearing him out
(36:04):
in Arizona because of some of the things that he's
had to say criticism wise towards Arizona. So I think
that that's going to play a little bit of a part,
and wherever he wants to go, that team is going
to have to want him too.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I mean, like, I don't know what the reputation he's
got as a player, but I look at it and
go man, Houston was a disaster, Arizona was a disaster.
At this point, he may as well just sign with
the Commandos, like he's landed at every disaster franchise in
the NFL. And then we talked about this yesterday, this
report that came out that the Cardinals were upset that
(36:41):
he didn't want to part or they sat him the
final two games of the regular season and listed it
because of a knee injury, and the thought was he
was actually healthy and ready to go, but they were
upset that he wanted out of one of the previous
games there late in the season. It just felt like
Arizona was a mess, and for him, it's an opportunity
(37:02):
you know, go somewhere else, start new. But if you're
one of those teams and you're not offering, you know,
if Buffalo's not interested because they feel like it's going
to piss off Stefon Diggs, if Kansas City's not interested
for whatever Kansas City's reasoning is. I keep saying, I
like Carolina, if you could get him to Carolina where
you've got Adam Thielen there. But they had to trade
DJ Moore because they needed to, you know, bring in
(37:25):
the move off from him so they could get the
number one pick for a guy like Bryce Young to
have DeAndre Hopkins. Would he want to do that?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Would would he want to take that chance on an
unknown commodity in the league at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I mean, compared to where he's been, it's a pretty
smooth sale and operation there. Compared to Arizona and Houston,
it went down well. In comparison Arizona, they just got
rid of the coach store in the season last year
they had an our room coach.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you guys want to.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Put on a little games show music and I'll go
through the list of odds as to where h DeAndre
Hopkins lands next.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, but make sure it's something that's not you know,
we're not taking any shots or Brady comes Trump or
family background or this.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Sorry, Brady, I don't know why. That's some interesting game
show music.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Is so Jonas Knox, he threw out the Carolina Panthers. Jonas,
you feel like the Carolina Panthers would be a great
spot for him.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, now odds are attached to it. Probably not, but
I'll go with Carolina.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Please not on the list on the list of potential
suitor for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
That's what Jonas knocks.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
By the way, the Washington Capitals are more likely to
be on the list.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That is true that LeVar had the Baltimore Ravens. The
Ravens are number three on this list at plus six
point fifty. Okay, you want to take another how about this?
Take another guess at a team outside of the Bills Chiefs,
which I think we all look at those as the
two favorites.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
But take another guest, what else you got?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
The Chargers? And also based on information.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
LeVar goes home on LaVar goes with the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
The Chargers are indeed a top six potential suitor they're
a plus one thousand to get DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Next.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Okay, Jonas back to you.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I'm gonna say the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
The Jacksonville Jaguars, what a season last year, building into
really what could be year two. Doug Peterson and Trevor
Lawrence just fighting, you know, making their way into the playoffs,
making a run.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
They're much lower down on the list. They're a plus
three thousand.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh wow. Okay, so I guess Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Any other guesses that you.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Take another step? Can I will Calvin Ridley be placing
that bet for me if he does go to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Or now, no, he might be. He might be the
book you at this point might be.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Can you out?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I figures the Miami Dolphins, says var Arrington.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Miami is not on the list.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Oh wow. I don't think they got money. I don't
think they can have money. Okay, here's one speaking of
digen Yeah, let's here. Let's speaking of degenerate gamblers. The
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
The Detroit Lions, they're relatively high on the list. They
are actually seventh team in pursuit of DeAndre Hopkins at
plus twelve hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I mean, Jamison Williams is missing the first six games
because he bet on in Iowa over under during the
course of last season, So that's a loss. So it
feels like Detroit, well hold on.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Is this teams that are pursuing him or teams that
he's likely to land.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
On based on the odds likely to land Okay, I'm
surprised there's one.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
You have guys that haven't haven't thrown out there?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh the Cowboys, Well.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
No, but they are also on this list.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
They are actually tenth twenty five to one plus twenty
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I'm gonna throw the Jets, all right, there you go.
I throw the Jets out there.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Jets are fourth, their fourth and was the plus seven hundred.
There's still maybe a reunion of sorts, if you will,
that that could be potentially out there. And I mean,
well Browns, Yeah, the Browns. They're not as high on
the list. They're at plus three thousand or thirty one.
But if he goes there, you also get a massage table.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Oh the worship between him and Deshaun though, because people
reported that they got rid of DeAndre so that Deshaun
could have the leadership role in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Remember reading that when they let him go, because I
couldn't understand why they had let him go. I was,
but we're saying that that was speculated.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Wasn't he pissed? Wasn't Deshaun Watson pissed that they got
rid of DeAndre Hopkins. That was the other story that
I saw that was out there.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
There was a lot out there.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Tuesday morning? Right,
come on the Miami Heat excited?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
About damn time, South Aloria. They pull one together, stopped
stopped history. Yeah, it was a daunting task.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Although now I'm just concerned for Joe Miszula, you know.
I mean, he wasn't a good coach. Jonas wanted to
fire him, that he was a good coach. It was
almost a historic comeback, and now they lose a game
seven at home. Now it's it's probably back to Jonas
thinking he should be fired again.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I listen. All I did was point out that there's
some thought that he could be out if they got swept,
and there was a real thought. I was not the
only one.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is that thought gone now?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think that thought was gone after they brought him
back and they tied it up three apiece, But it
was a shoot around last night. That thought was there,
and ultimately that's not really the story. The story is no,
it is the Miami Heat getting it done. Just everybody
breaking out the violence. Well, I mean it was like, Labar,
(01:10):
have you heard anybody else talk about Joe Miszoula could
be in trouble if the Celtics got swept.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But doesn't that seem like just a bad take if
literally two games after that, when they started to come back,
that was never even a thought or consideration, And then
I think what you saw last night was just an
example of I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mean, they were unlucky.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
If Tatum doesn't get hurt in the first twenty seconds,
thirty seconds, that's probably a different ballgame.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
At least.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It feels like that took all the wind out of
the sales of Boston, all the momentum, everything else, and.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You knew he just wasn't gonna be able to move
and play the exact same way he's winning d up.
I'll say this, I won't say it was a bad
take at three to Oho. It was not a bad
take at three to Oho because most all these coaches
that got fired losing in the playoffs. I won't say
three to zero hit them heading towards a straight sweep.
It was a bad take Jonas. But I will say
(02:06):
it's interesting that at that at the point in time
that they did tie up the series, that everybody had
to change their approach as to how they were talking
about the Celtics head coach.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean, it just is what it is. That's the
NBA Playoffs. It's a roller coaster feeling from game to game.
One team's this, one team's that, this, Like it just
felt like going and you got a hashtag that by
the way, this league, it felt like going into last night.
If there was gonna be a team that was going
to blow an opportunity at history, it would be the Celtics,
(02:38):
and it would be against a team like the Heat,
who apparently just don't give a rip about what happened
in Game six and their heart getting ripped out because
they got in there, they got on a roll after
the Tatum injury and that game wasn't close.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, apparently the Celtics didn't care either. I mean, your
boy Jayalen Brown, dangnare had what a triple double with
turnovers being one of the cat stories of the triple double.
I mean, but do you have like eight or nine
turnovers in the game like that? I mean, they shot poorly.
If I guess if you're gonna go out, go out
(03:11):
the way that you play your style of ball, but
that just that's a mind blower to me that you
would come out in the final game of the series,
You're at home and you can't find the rim, like
you can't find the bottom of the net, like I don't.
That's just very perplexing. It was a very it was
(03:32):
a very disheartening Game seven like that to me, for
all the build up of it, it's I guess you
could look at Miami and say, if you're a Miami fan,
you could say, look at the grit and the intestinal
fortitude that they came out with to play that game.
But in reality, I would have liked for it to
(03:53):
have been a much more competitive Game seven. It was
just not It just did not seem competitive. It may
you wonder how did it get to a game seven?
How did they pull three games in a row. Know,
Tatum hurt his ankle and he heard it early. But
you still have other players during the course of the series,
during the course of the playoffs that have stepped up
(04:14):
and have done things. Marcus Smart has stepped up. Jayalen
Brown is an All NBA or He needed to step up.
You know, guys needed to step up, and they did it.
They didn't step up well, and it did seem like
very much of a competitive game.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
For game seven, it's fairly simple. When you go nine
for forty two from three, is that bad? It's atrocious
to shoot around? They lost the shoot around, I mean,
but that's what the NBA has become is more often
than not, you look at who shoots better at three,
especially the amount of three as usually are taken, and
that tells you the story, and especially if you start
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to hit early, and it was like the heat were
necessarily hot early, they just hit a few more. I
think the Celtics were zero for eleven and then that
was a Horford hit the first one.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They're like one for twelve.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And when you're watching that, you're like, well, they're gonna
keep shooting because that's what they do. And eventually you'd
have to think the odds are in their favor to
start shooting better. But they really hadn't been great the
past two games, and every time they lost it was
a product of just not shooting the three ball.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, seven thirty five last game, two from three. Yeah,
that's horrible, man.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And could go back through their losses like look for
the first three games, like.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The it's just when they don't shoot, well, it's a
wrap they don't have the ability to. I don't know
if it's just have an inside presence, find ways of
getting to the rack and just getting a few buckets
to like keep them amendumber, keep them in games. But
it I mean at game seven at home, I mean,
if there's no better or more familiar confines and it
didn't feel it feel like they could really put up
the type of you know, mass, I don't know that
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you thought they were going to.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
If you guys got forty two opportunities at just a
wide open three, you think you get it nine shots? Yes, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Really wide open. I'm not like even at a game
like jumps like.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Shoot around, Yeah, to shoot around, I don't know. Oh
yeah it's from NBA three. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Forty two times hit more than nine to twenty three
feet six inches. You can bang that out LaVar from
the corner.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You ever seen Hoosiers? Yeah, I'm like Jimmy Chitwood in
that thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, I believe you. I'm just saying, yeah, Miss Jays.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He's been working for a while. Man, Just Chopper Quinn
taught me back in sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I remember I jumped, threw up a shot, hit that thing,
and he goes, hey, Son, he goes, that's a jump shot.
I go, what do you mean? He's like, what you
just did is a jump shot. Because when you're young,
you learned like a set shot. You don't really know
how to elevate and then let that thing go at
the peak of your release. And I remember I did
it once and it messed me up. I was messed
up for like a good six months because then I
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was trying to figure out, well, Chopper, when do I
use a set shot?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
When do I use a jump shot? He's like, Son,
that's something you got to figure out.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I was like, oh damn, profound that. Then I'm trying
to figure this whole thing out. And then finally I
found it. Pount just come around screens.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Just what I could see you be a hooper? What
I could see that you got a hooper's body. Yeah,
I would I would have been bowing you in the
face though. I would like that's the type of dude.
I was like, Look, I would have never I would
never let you had a chance. Look, I was Brady
Baseline running around and running the whole thing. I would
have got you to put that for on right on,
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right on your face. It's a moving target. Right on
that moving target.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
There's no post.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Look at this moving look.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
At this pretty mother constant court like pom in his face.
And I would have officiated the game. You guys were
They would have kicked me out, but it would have
been okay.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But then I would have opened up a burner account
and defended myself on Twitter. You know, that's a great point.
It's a great point. Oh yeah, the Eric Lewis Lewis, Yes,
it's great.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But you confirmed that is that's not like a rumor like,
it's confirmed. It his personal email.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Somebody who used the account said it was his brother.
I don't know if they found the email account attached
to it, but somebody said that it was his brother
responding and then deleted the account right afterwards. It's him.
I don't know how anybody believes it. It's not, but yeah,
that's the.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Investigator was officiating last night.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, he was not. And there was some speculation that
the two officials, Tony Brothers and Scott Foster, the heat
were zero to ten this year and dealing with those
two officials so there was some thought that maybe they
were in a rough way when it came to the Celtics,
but as Brady pointed out, Jason Tatum got hurt, the
Celtics were never able to recover. It felt like they
were never in that game. And then Eric Spolstra, the
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head coach of the Miami Heat on their way to
another FBA Finals, he spoke after the game about this
Heat team and just sort of their mindset as they
approached last night in Boston.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
We don't care what the rest of the world is saying.
We don't care who's criticizing who. You got a line
up between these four lines and let's figure this out.
And I think that's the nature of this team that
I think, you know, a lot of people respect what
happened last year. You know obviously was on our mind
and it drove us this year. And that's what you
always hope for competition, that it can drive you to
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a higher level. And I think that's what you saw
in this series this year, to be able to have
to overcome a lot.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Of stuff cannot Am I the only one that came
away from Ernie doing his interview with Bam and coach
Spochstra wondering what the hell was the video that they watched.
Bam was like, yeah, we watched this inspirational video that
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got is going.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And Ernie was like, well, so what was the video about.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
He's like, hey, da, da da, don't worry about that, this,
that and the other. And then Spostra he stops the
interview with Bam because Bam didn't answer the question. Asked
Spostra the same exact question. Sposter grabs him by his shoulders,
like with both hands, and says the video isn't important,
and then starts the answer in a different way. I
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wonder what the video was like was it? Was it
Bucky Larson, you know, because Bucky couldn't get right, Bucky
couldn't get right, And they said it was a movie
of motivation and motivated them to be able to finish
and get it done. You know, Bucky Larson is one
of those inspirational movies where you know, he figured out
how to finishing and get it done, and I mean
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he was really good at it.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I did not think we're gonna mention Bucky Larson.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I've just started thinking what type of movie was it
that they watched? Where both player and coach danced around,
just like it's as simple. We watched remember the Titans.
We watched Hoosiers, Like, I mean, what was it? What
was the movie?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I've told you before a game. We watched the Bronx Tail,
the scene when they walk into the bar and the
banker game.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Now you can't leave, Now you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Now you can leave, And I remember thinking like, this
is pretty dope. This is a badass. Before we're got
to ask whoop the next day.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But that but but before the game it felt great.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Man. Before it's like, oh man.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Now you can't you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
We lose, Now use can't leave.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They beat that ass too. I got a theory and
knock the bikes over. I think that they watched the
movie The Town, and I think they did so because
Joe Missoula said not long ago that he watches that
movie about four times a week, and I think they
were probably yeah, that's what he said. He said he
watches The Town probably about four times a week. And
I think they wanted to detrol Joe Missoula in the Celtics, right.
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They didn't want to go public.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, that's a nice, that's a nice that's a
nice pool and I think eventually it'll come out that's
a nice pool. But they did not want to say
what the movie was, yeah, which I thought was like peculiar,
Like maybe that's like whoa, like why you don't want
to say what the movie was?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Maybe they got some Santapio's. You know, they sit down,
they watch the town, how you're doing, little little little Boston.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And there Santapio's. Is that is that a place in Boston?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
People in Boston?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Though? Okay, maybe it was at the part.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
South Though regardless of the outcome last night, I don't
feel like either of these teams have a shot versus Denver.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
No, yeah, there's no I think this is the better matchup.
I hate to say it, because you have two very
gritty and very very physical teams that are about to
play and Bam, I don't think we'll back down to
to the Joker obviously, Butler is not going to back down.
So that's going to be a cool matchup, depending on
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who's who's guarding him. But you know, when you think
of Jamal Murray, which it may be, what's my guy Gordon?
Gordon may be the one that is tasked with with
Gardon Butler.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You think heat Nuggets is a better matchup? Yeah, I do.
I think so. Well, here's okay, You're.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
While I would love to agree with you, they're just
wildly inconsistent. They're just they're just so inconsistent that it's
just like I just don't think that they would have
been able to deal with Denver. I think it would
have been a sweet that would have been a sweet matchup.
But this one, I think that they're really going to
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bang like this going. It might not be the sexiest
of matchups, but I think this is the right one.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
You know, Ki is such a like he's just a
different player than like, I feel like any anything else
or any type of player in the NBA right now,
with his skill set for as big as he is
and how he plays, he's just a tough matchup and
the way they facilitate their offense.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I'm curious, Jonas, because usually you're up on these
sorts of things. You know, usually you've.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Got an idea as far as like Game one NBA Finals,
there's got to be a line out as far as
whose favorite is not. I feel like if the Celtics
were favored by what was it last night?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Seven and a half, eight and a half?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It went down to seven, right, seven?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Okay, wouldn't you have to think that Denver is going
to be a favored by at least that with the
rest the fact that they've they've largely been a better
team the entirety of the season. Even if you think
it's a good matchup, I would think the opening lit
would be somewhere around seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Eight would have not.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Eight and a half. So the Denver Nuggets are eight
and a half point favorites. It's in Denver. And also,
by the way, yeah and look the heat. They planned
to travel to Denver right afterwards, so they I think
a lot of people looked into that and said, oh
my god, they're already guaranteeing the win. They traveled, they
packed twice. They're going straight to Denver after the game
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last night, So what are they supposed to do? Go
back to Miami and then fly to Denver like that
was the plan. That really would have pissed me off though,
if they would have lost that game last night and
they would have had a pack twice because I hate packing,
that would have pissed me off. Yeah, not at all,
and I'm not good at it. No, I'm not. Your
Brady's got a system. He won't share the info with me.
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He just keeps everything a secret. You got that military
packing style.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Y's right.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
They don't never look like they have a whole bunch
of bags.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, you get everything into one bag. Yeah. Wow, that's
what you travel light man.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
How do you do it? How you do it?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You gotta ask Chopper. This goes back to the jump
shot story.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm telling you, this is such crap.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's the Chopper.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, but something tells me he's not. He's going to
pass it along to you, and then I'm just gonna
get caught in the middle of travel.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
He gives you a beer and then he starts to
explain it, and then he passes along another beer, and
then he's like, not even through the first part of
how you go about packing, and then then there's a third
beer in your hand, and for you, that slights out
my friend, like you are you aren't making it to
wherever that story was going because you got three beers
in you and the span of about thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, but you guys, you guys are on that bud
light stuff like I'm into like I p as and
things like that. I'm not really did you see the
new bud Light? Did you see the new bud Light model?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I did say that. By the way, make America great again? Yeah,
definitely there is all that be.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
Not that Brady Quinn needs a compliment though, because he
is all of a sudden, the Notre Dame lacrosse team
is the talk of the lacrosse world. How about him?
Holy Lost is getting it done controversial.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Penn State lost, by the way, very well could have
been Penn State in the National Championship as opposed to Duke.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So good. That was awesome, though.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I mean that that group last year they got absolutely
it was bs That's the only way I can put it.
They did that they didn't get in the tournament last year,
and obviously that was a form of redemption.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They kept up.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Last year's players brought the excuse me the NCAA bracket
in their lockers, you know, throughout the past year or so,
they used it as motivation. They came back, they proved
all those who made that poor decision last year wrong,
and they were able to win their first national championship.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Pretty sweet and pretty cool, win or lose.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They had a charity event set up in Philly today
before they take an international trip.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
But kind of cool to.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Commit to something like that knowing that, you know, you
could be coming off heartbreak. And they had a number
of times in NCAA tournament history, you know, falling to
Duke unfortunately, even though they had a good record versus
Duke this year. So pretty pretty sweet though, to see
them be able to get it done like that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I'm excited to see them beat Duke. I need them
to beat Duke.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Sho I didn't get like first off. Hockey is an
amazing game.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I wish I would have played it instead of baseball
growing up, Like now, looking back on it, really Oh yeah,
like lacrosse. To me, if I was to pick a
sport that twenty thirty years from now should be one
of the top sports in this country, yeah, it'd be last.
It is the I mean, it's fast paced, it's physical.
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You know, you've got you've got the element of scoring.
There's the element of strategy. I mean, for example, I
think there's about four minutes left in the game, and
at that point Notre Dame was up maybe it was
there either a three or of four with about four
minutes left, and you know, Duke implemented a strategy where
they pull the goalie. So the goalie comes out of
the goal and he's going to defend someone, and then
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they're going to double team the man who's going to
start the playoff with the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And what do you think the logical.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Thing that you do is, you know, you're saying, okay,
we got to find that the guy who's the goaliees covering,
because the goalie is the you know, least athletic guy
probably on the field. So let's go find that player
and set up a mismatch. Notre Dame calls a time out,
they come back out. They're like, yeah, if they do
this again, we're just gonna throw to that guy. Sure enough,
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he makes a move, gets open, gets the ball, and
that's it was pretty much game over from that point,
Like there's really no chance of do coming back.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But you see all these little elements of strategy that
play a role too, and it's just a cool sport.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's like everything that you know, I like soccer, fans
like about soccer as far as the constant play, you
get elements of that, but there's actually more scoring and
there's more physicality, and no one's flopping out there. Right,
guys are getting whacked and you know, hit left and right,
I mean absolutely blown up.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So it's it's a really really cool fun sport.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What would you guys guess? All right, because I think
I have an answer here.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If this is incorrect, we'll take this out of the
podcast afterwards. What would you guys say is the average
salary for a professional lacrosse player?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Though in the US twenty thousand, uh average, I'll probably
say like eighty sixty four thousand.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Okay, way more than I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I had a buddy that was a year older man
in high school, played in college.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
He had a job, full time job.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
On weekends he would go play, and I think they
still have him.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
There's the PL which is the Professional Across League. Is
that the league you're looking up the stats from.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, And then there's the there's an indoor one, and
I think he used to go play in the indoor one,
but it was like for a few hundred couple grand
like it was almost like a weekend warrior hobby type thing,
but it was a professional.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
League and and and and like he used.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
To do it, like in between he'd be like all like,
you know, bruised up and every going.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
In the office the next week.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's just crazy to think that, like that's sport. For
whatever reason, it's growing in popularity, but it's not quite
where it should be. And I'm telling you it's it's
I don't want to say, it's not that hard to
learn how to you know, actually play and carry a
stick and get those stick skills. It is so cool, man,
I'm telling you, it's one of the coolest sports to
be a part, even for parents especially.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, it's fun to watch. They like they'll whether it's
the NCAA or they'll do some of the professional I've
seen the indoor ones as well too. And that story
about going and doing the weekend warrior thing. A lot
of like professional wrestlers before they actually make it to
the big times, they'll do these independent wrestling shows on
the weekends and still work a full time job and
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they've talked about having to go back into work and
they're all just battered and bruised, and everyone's like, what
the hell are you doing on the weekend.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's how seventies football players were. Yeah, they literally had
newspaper delivery jobs, different like working in the mills and
factories and stuff like that. Yeah, on the off season
they had multiple jobs.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What's the deal Not to completely throw us, you know,
into a ditch, but the whole aae W and Tony
Kahan and I saw something with that with MJD this
past weekend, like what happened there.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't I know sort of what the structure of
AEW is. So Tony Khan, who's the son of Shad
Khan runs right, Yeah, yeah, he runs it. It's their investment,
and that's like his passion even before football and everything else.
He was a big fan of professional wrestling. You would
go to all these independent shows. And so while he
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does I think he's in charge of the analytics department
with the Jags, he's also running the soccer team internationally
and he runs AW and so I don't know the
specifics of sort of their interactions, but there's a lot
of people who think that their business structure just makes
no sense whatsoever because they give out a bunch of contracts,
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big contracts, with long term deals. They've got a massive roster.
The TV ratings aren't great, the revenue is not all
that great coming in, and nobody can figure out how.
And this goes to show you, and we've talked about
this before how wealthy NFL owners are. Nobody can figure
out how they're able to sustain this because this was
wwe there have to be some cuts because that's all
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they got. And the thought is they do so well
running the Jags that this is just kind of like
a hobby. It's just kind of like, yeah, whatever, this
is what he wants to do on the side. So
he's like he's one of those guys that that that's
his passion and he does this on top of all
the other responsibilities he has with the Jags, and and
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that speculation about London and the new stadium and the
renovations and all that stuff. And now you see Jacksonville
starting to spark up and actually play well again, and
when a playoff game last year. So yeah, Tony Kahn
is one of those guys who had a passion for
it was always going to these weekend shows, and now
he's got his own wrestling promotion, so.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Okay, And just so you know, like one of the
rest was bisy I guess a post fight press conference
was just saying how, I don't know, maybe he's being
you know, looked up by the WWE, Like there was
this whole thing, but the look on Tony Kahan's face,
oh yeah, was priceless.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Because he's like he's in this competition with WWE, and
it's more more of a one sided competition because their
whole thought like they're looking big picture at these big
you know, these big stadium shows and all this stuff.
And so then these guys come up, these wrestlers, and
they try and use the media and these nerds that
cover wrestling to try and spark rumors, but they don't
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really call it marks. Yeah, they're called Marx and they
but they don't run it by Tony Khan at these posts,
at these post wrestling press conferences. And so Tony Khan
is just sitting there going, wait what sitting there while
these guys are airing everybody out and talking trash, and
it's like you're not sure whether or not it's part
of the act or not part of the act. It's
it's pretty interesting to see how it how it all runs.
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Maybe the Jag should on a lacrosse team. Hey, why
don't we chip in and on a lacrosse team. I
mean it's a little.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
More it's a little more expensive than you think, but
I would be definitely be down for it. The problem
is I'd put it in a place where it's not
quite as popular yet, and then I try to grow
the popularity like a lot of people who want to
take it to you know, deastinations like the Northeast obviously
popular lacrosse is really popular up up there, or like
the you know, DMV. The problem there is like I
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feel like you're just kind of already you know, filling
in what it's already exists. You got to kind of
grow it, build it somewhere else California and uh, you know,
somewhere in the in the Bible Belt, right. I think
there's there's too many athletes. There's too many players that
I watch that are football players that I'm like, you know,
you could transition and play lacrosse and.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You could be a really really good lacrosse.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Player instead of just being a guy who maybe runs track,
or maybe you play a little baseball or just play
spring football. Like, you can't tell me that a lot
of the things you watch those the players doing lacrosse
isn't applicable to what you be doing on a football field.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Jim Brown, one of the most famous of all time
to do lacrosse. I can't imagine it's expensive to play lacrosse.
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
The sticks are expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, so equipment is just like hockey. Yeah, but get equipment.
The hockey's really expensive like that.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But you gotta get equipment. You gotta get covered, like,
you gotta get like, you gotta get equipment for la
for la x lee.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
How much does the lacrosse stick? And we're talking about
the good stuff, not this knockoff?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well did you play lacrosse?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Not ninety nine cent store stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Now, lacrosse is more of an East Coast sport.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, it's grown. We're actually here, but desolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
I'll say, I wanted to play, but it wasn't around here.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's actually a like a Maryland like a Maryland sport. Actually,
like it was really big in Maryland, super big, like
more southern East Coast. You know, I don't know like
I lived in Annapolis, so I you know, under armour
is big on on l a X. You can get
a five piece for like two hundred and fifty bucks
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five piece of lacrosse set up. It's not that bad.
And hockey it's like a thousanies. Yeah, you know, like
you got.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Your you're going to like cass.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right about right?
Speaker 8 (26:42):
What I am seeing it advertised as a five piece
lacrosse A.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Couple hundred five piece, No big deal, Hey mom, I
need a new five piece. No, probably three hundred bucks.
Chick sticking.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
By the way, there's no excuse why it's only an
East coast sport. There's no excuse.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
So so so that's not technically true. I mean why
well no, I was just saying like it was popular
when I was going on the Midwest. I mean a
Dublin's Rome High School, which is one of the schools
that has branched out in my hometown. They're one of
the top teams in the country. Like it's it's bigger
than just that. I mean even even in South Florida.
There's there's a school up in Boca that's really really good.
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There's a there's a couple others that are out there.
It's it's branched out. It's just not part of the
culture like it is in the Northeast where whether it's
the Northeast or or Maryland like kind of the d
C d m V area, there's a different culture there
where when kids grow up, right, That's what I'm saying,
like they are pushed into that sport.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I don't think anyone's thinking, I don't know what you're
getting pushed into it in California these days. But like
I know, Mas, I know in Ohio, like you had
you had one of three things, track, baseball, or lacron
that was ith.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, it is. It is weird though that that wouldn't
be an option out here that nobody would think like
lacrosse would be. It's just like what is it goes
an option?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's just it's just you know, you get other things
to do in.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, like what what do you what do you think
they're doing out here in California? Like if you had
to guess, like what were a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I mean, you guys are are more in the mix
of there. LeVar is literally deep into it.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I mean he is deep. Deep's baseball out here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Baseball.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Baseball is big, big out here, like in football baseball
and football, I mean in basketball. But we were talking
yesterday Brady about I was just asking, like, what do
I get to look forward to as a parent during
holiday weekends? He said, travel tournaments. If your kid plays sports,
every holiday weekend is a travel tournament. Like the traffic
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around our house. There's just baseball field like parking. You
couldn't get it yesterday because I didn't realize it was
like a three or four day baseball tournament. They just have.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So that's what do you choose to email us something
instead of just texting us?
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Because I don't have TikTok and it was the only
way to wait, did you I saw this.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't have to talk either, so WAT just grab right?
Speaker 8 (29:12):
So liad Uh sent the link I didn't have. I
couldn't find it on my phone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Lee sent us a link and it just says lacrosse dads.
This feels like some sort of like weird like fetish
search being who fetish lacrosse dads? WHOA? What is the uh?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
It's a it's a real I guess is what the
kids would call it of just a bunch of lacrosse
dads hanging out at the top of the stands saying
all lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Dads are the same.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
I don't know, I stumbled across it over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
There is a look, there is a look to them
like they there's it's always like some sort of button
up collared shirt like Peter molar Polo with either like
a half zip up hoodie or like one of those
vests that you see people wear. What was the brand
of the Patagonia vest, And then they've got like either
sunglasses and like the the low print hat.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, it's just a look. I'm telling you, man,
that's like the lax dead look.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
All right, well, Lee, we've got it. Yeah, that's the
same look they've got in the video there. Yeah, spot on.
I can't even open the video, but exactly, it's basically
shetting down my laptop. I don't know what's happening here.
It's just not a constant reel that keeps buffering the
entire time. But again, that is That is your update,
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Speaker 2 (31:14):
The speculation about what was going to happen with DeAndre Hopkins,
that's been a story that's been floated out there. He
listed a bunch of other quarterbacks he wanted to play
for or play with rather and then it was like, well,
you're still a member of the Arizona Cardinals. Well, the
thought was last Friday that the decision had been made
they were going to release DeAndre Hopkins. They couldn't find
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a trade partner, and apparently it is not official yet.
Apparently with the long holiday weekend, that move has not
been made official. So DeAndre Hopkins, as it stands right
now is still a member of the Arizona Cardinals. But
at four pm Eastern time today, the feeling is the
move will be made and he'll be looking for work,
and the conversation then becomes where does it make the
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most sense for DeAndre Hopkins and the Chiefs and the
bills have been heavily speculated. As Albert Breer pointed out,
those are the two teams that any had had any
sort of real trade conversations with Arizona over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There, So yeah, and there's you know, there's a potential
that he still gets traded today, right. I mean that
might have been some of the strategy behind floating out
that he was going to be released and doing it
over the holiday weekend. And I think that was some
of the confusion as well, is because most people thought
it was going to become official come Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Wait a second, it's Memorial It's a holiday, so.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It actually pushes and gives you a little bit more
time until Tuesday. So we'll see if something gets done.
And sometimes it's what teams do to you know, draw
up more interest in a better offer because they don't
like the offers that are currently on the table.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Those two teams make a lot of sense, right, I.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Think for all parties involved, for the Chiefs and Bills,
if it's an arms race and they're trying to go
win a Super Bowl, and if you're Hopkins, you get
to you know, future Hall of Fame coursquarterbacks in my opinion,
and guys who I think you'd want to go play
with that are going to give you the chance of
winning that ring. And that's probably where DeAndre Hopkins is
at at this point. He's had a lot of individual success.
(33:11):
I think he wants to go to a place where
he can now have the ultimate success of winning a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And that might come with taking.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
A lesser role, less targets, less catches, but it might
be more rewarding when it's all said and done. So
a lot of players get to this, you know, this
point in their career and that's sometimes the things that
they're looking for. And it's kind of interesting that Arizona
would just you know, after you know, the speculation and
the things that he had originally said, and then Hopkins
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comes out and said, well, he's not necessarily trying to
go anywhere else or who said he wants to go
anywhere else? And it led down a road of you know,
eventually this them releasing him, and it seems like Arizona
wants a fresh start with how they're building back up
this roster, and obviously Hopkins wants a fresh start as well.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I would throw Baltimore in there. You know that there's
a bad decision for DeAndre Hopkins. If it's a team
that has talent, has.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
A quarterback, has stability, I think that if he gets released,
it just makes it a much easier proposition versus getting trade.
Obviously you don't have the choice when you get traded,
but if you get released, you're getting that cash. Arizona's
got to pay you whatever it is that Arizona owes
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you out of out of that contract. So it's not
like that that contract is getting absorbed and you just
maintain what it is that you got going on. As
you go to the other.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Team, You're you're getting paid twice now because whatever it
is that that Arizona owed you, they're going to have
to pay you. They don't get to unload that on
someone else, and you don't have to look at it
from the standpoint of let me make that money up.
He doesn't have to make the money up. He can
go in if he wanted to. He could go in
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at at market value. He could go in at a
league minimum just to fit into the team he would
want to go to and play with the quarterback that
he want to play with. He doesn't have to be
He doesn't have to go for top dollar. So to me,
I mean he he has he has, I guess, flexibility
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if it's all about winning, he has flexibility if it's
really if he gets released, he has the flexibility to
go to a team if they want him. Now, that's
what it ultimately comes down to as well, is do
they want him? You know, do they You're talking about
a guy that two times there's been conversations about what
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he could possibly be as a person off the field.
Now I've met DeAndre Hopkins. I thought he was a
dope dude. I think he's a cool dude. But I've
never been his teammate and I've never been his coach,
And people would say that they got rid of him
in Houston to clear out. His presence was in the
locker room. Now people would say they're clearing him out
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in Arizona because of some of the things that he's
had to say criticism wise towards Arizona. So I think
that that's going to play a little bit of a part,
and wherever he wants to go, that team is going
to have to want him too.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I mean, like, I don't know what the reputation he's
got as a player, but I look at it and
go man, Houston was a disaster, Arizona was a disaster.
At this point, he may as well just sign with
the Commandos, like he's landed at every disaster franchise in
the NFL. And then we talked about this yesterday, this
report that came out that the Cardinals were upset that
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he didn't want to part or they sat him the
final two games of the regular season and listed it
because of a knee injury, and the thought was he
was actually healthy and ready to go, but they were
upset that he wanted out of one of the previous
games there late in the season. It just felt like
Arizona was a mess, and for him, it's an opportunity
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you know, go somewhere else, start new. But if you're
one of those teams and you're not offering, you know,
if Buffalo's not interested because they feel like it's going
to piss off Stefon Diggs, if Kansas City's not interested
for whatever Kansas City's reasoning is. I keep saying, I
like Carolina, if you could get him to Carolina where
you've got Adam Thielen there. But they had to trade
DJ Moore because they needed to, you know, bring in
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the move off from him so they could get the
number one pick for a guy like Bryce Young to
have DeAndre Hopkins. Would he want to do that?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Would would he want to take that chance on an
unknown commodity in the league at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I mean, compared to where he's been, it's a pretty
smooth sale and operation there. Compared to Arizona and Houston,
it went down well. In comparison Arizona, they just got
rid of the coach store in the season last year
they had an our room coach.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you guys want to.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Put on a little games show music and I'll go
through the list of odds as to where h DeAndre
Hopkins lands next.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, but make sure it's something that's not you know,
we're not taking any shots or Brady comes Trump or
family background or this.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Sorry, Brady, I don't know why. That's some interesting game
show music.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Is so Jonas Knox, he threw out the Carolina Panthers. Jonas,
you feel like the Carolina Panthers would be a great
spot for him.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, now odds are attached to it. Probably not, but
I'll go with Carolina.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Please not on the list on the list of potential
suitor for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
That's what Jonas knocks.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
By the way, the Washington Capitals are more likely to
be on the list.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That is true that LeVar had the Baltimore Ravens. The
Ravens are number three on this list at plus six
point fifty. Okay, you want to take another how about this?
Take another guess at a team outside of the Bills Chiefs,
which I think we all look at those as the
two favorites.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
But take another guest, what else you got?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
The Chargers? And also based on information.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
LeVar goes home on LaVar goes with the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
The Chargers are indeed a top six potential suitor they're
a plus one thousand to get DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Next.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Okay, Jonas back to you.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I'm gonna say the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
The Jacksonville Jaguars, what a season last year, building into
really what could be year two. Doug Peterson and Trevor
Lawrence just fighting, you know, making their way into the playoffs,
making a run.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
They're much lower down on the list. They're a plus
three thousand.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh wow. Okay, so I guess Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Any other guesses that you.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Take another step? Can I will Calvin Ridley be placing
that bet for me if he does go to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Or now, no, he might be. He might be the
book you at this point might be.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Can you out?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I figures the Miami Dolphins, says var Arrington.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Miami is not on the list.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Oh wow. I don't think they got money. I don't
think they can have money. Okay, here's one speaking of
digen Yeah, let's here. Let's speaking of degenerate gamblers. The
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
The Detroit Lions, they're relatively high on the list. They
are actually seventh team in pursuit of DeAndre Hopkins at
plus twelve hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I mean, Jamison Williams is missing the first six games
because he bet on in Iowa over under during the
course of last season, So that's a loss. So it
feels like Detroit, well hold on.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Is this teams that are pursuing him or teams that
he's likely to land.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
On based on the odds likely to land Okay, I'm
surprised there's one.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
You have guys that haven't haven't thrown out there?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh the Cowboys, Well.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
No, but they are also on this list.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
They are actually tenth twenty five to one plus twenty
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I'm gonna throw the Jets, all right, there you go.
I throw the Jets out there.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Jets are fourth, their fourth and was the plus seven hundred.
There's still maybe a reunion of sorts, if you will,
that that could be potentially out there. And I mean,
well Browns, Yeah, the Browns. They're not as high on
the list. They're at plus three thousand or thirty one.
But if he goes there, you also get a massage table.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Oh the worship between him and Deshaun though, because people
reported that they got rid of DeAndre so that Deshaun
could have the leadership role in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Remember reading that when they let him go, because I
couldn't understand why they had let him go. I was,
but we're saying that that was speculated.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Wasn't he pissed? Wasn't Deshaun Watson pissed that they got
rid of DeAndre Hopkins. That was the other story that
I saw that was out there.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
There was a lot out there.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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