June 6, 2023 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox celebrate an NFL gambling scandal that finally has gravitas. HBO’s ‘Hard Knock’s is having trouble finding a team, showing issues with the show and the network. LaVar talks about the anxiety he had before games and a look back at Larry Allen on the bench press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Aring, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
sports radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mischief guys, man, Yeah right, I did. Who's you guys?
I mean, what do you mean you you lap Lee
wasn't here the listeners, Okay, Edmund Garcia, Yeah that's Fairy
is here. Edmund was here? Yeah, true, Yeah, some of
us was working. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, listen,
(00:34):
man's giving us away. Wile's all right, Well some of
y'all were you know, you know, doing whatever you were doing.
Oh come on, some of us were here, you know,
trying to make sure this uh, this fair hair show
continues to grow and do well. So yeah, thanks for
coming back. Day. Man, it's the least I could do. Nice.
Nice to hear your voice, man, Yeah, you know, it's
the least I could do. Yeah, I guess. You know,
(00:56):
you know, when the big ballers are around, you know,
as you know, the B Group dudes, you know, we
got to try to do our best, you know, keep
things afloat. You're not a B group guy to me, though,
a group first class. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're Errington. Your
name starts with an A. That's why you're in a group.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
By the way, I think you and I might have
been near each other and we didn't know. Were you
in San Diego? Yes, yeah, I was there too, Yeah, Safari,
I went to the zoo.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah we were close. How about us? How about that? Yeah,
can't keep us away.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And then I was at work. Yeah that's all right.
Oh I was working too. There's a bunch of kids
with us. All right, there was a lot of work there.
I mean I had a bunch of kids with me too. Yeah,
well listen all mine. Yeah, that definitely wasn't the case here.
There was a lot going on. But nonetheless it is.
It is fun to be bad.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You feel it? Yes? Okay, good, So did you get
it off your chest? That's almost gone. Okay, know it's
almost gone. Wait till Q gets back, Wait till wait
till I give me this hard time. You know what
we're gonna do. Just lay back the first segment and
let me just let him go first segment, and then
how about first show. Just yell for the back headington
(02:16):
read and make him do all the work. Yeah, yeah,
first show back. He's doing the whole show, whole show,
the whole entire shows and out's teases, welcome back into
the show. Take it que yep, Yeah, there you go,
and then you and I will have ribs. Yeah, well
just even try any of them. So you didn't let
me have any.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I tried to on the way out, LeVar and grabbed
it and said you lost your chance, kissed my ass
and told me to walk out the front door with
no ribs. So very very unfortunate it is. We are
back here and we're gonna have some fun. And again
it's a three hour extravaganza, and the three hour extravaganza
(02:55):
starts and just the perfect way possible for the National
Football League. This is just a wonderful story. Finally we
got something here. A gambling scandal.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Matt Rebikowski.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And if I screwed his name up, I apologize of
Sportshandle dot com, he says, And he reported on this
that the NFL is investigating a Colts player for gambling.
Now ESPN was reporting yesterday that the player involved is
cornerback slash kick returner Isaiah Rodgers. Oh and then Isaiah
(03:39):
Rodgers himself confirmed, yes, it's me that may have a
gambling problem. Ohh And so here is the details of
this report. According to ESPN and Against Against sportshandle dot com,
who are all over this and did a great job
on it. The sports betting account was opened under the
name of an associate of Rogers. There were approximately one
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hundred bets placed with the account, including on Colts games.
Most of the bets were in the twenty five to
fifty dollars range, but at least one was a four
figure bet. Now, the statement from Isaiah Rodgers himself on
social media said the following quote, addressing the current reports,
I want to take full responsibility for my actions. I
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know I have made mistakes, and I'm willing to do
whatever it takes to repair the situation. The last thing
I ever wanted to do was to be a distraction
to the Colts organization, my coaches, and my teammates. I've
let people down that I care about. I made an
air in judgment, and I'm going to work hard to
make sure that those mistakes are rectified through the process.
It's an honor to play in the NFL, and I
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have never taken that lightly. I am very sorry for
all of this. End of statement for Isaiah Rogers. So
it's the second time Aye Rogers has been in the
news this offseason. One is now a jet and the
other one apparently is on the set of Casino just
make and making bets place in wagers.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This is now now we're talking.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, enough of this rinky dink seventeen parlay stories, enough
of these college football bets that guys got popped for.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This dude is gambling. He's in it to win it,
and to win it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Don't sound like he's betting that much though. Twenty five
to fifty bucks for me, that's not a lot of that.
I would shut the lights off for three hours to
make sure I had enough money in the account. Oh
my gosh, to try and get a bet in. I
know what you make, Okay, But here's here's the part
that I would like to point out here. First of all,
I blame the NFL. I think the NFL and we
could say, look, you got to be accountable for your actions,
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and I get all that, But the NFL has some
fault in this as well too, because the NFL wanted
to get in the gambling world. Because the NFL saw
the money that they could be making and realize, oh,
let's get into it, and they didn't do a good
enough job buttoning up what could be the potential pitfalls
some of these players who now have access to a
(06:02):
gambling account and don't realize, Hey, maybe I shouldn't be
doing this, Maybe this is a bad look, Maybe this
is illegal. Maybe I should read instructions and read the
warnings and all the other things that come along with
us accepting this into our league from the Players Association, etc.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Etc.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I blame the NFL in that regard. Here's also
why I blame the National Football League for Isaiah Rodgers
getting popped for placing one hundred bets, some of which
may have been on the Colts reportedly, and one four
figure bet. He is also a kick returner, and with
what they've done to.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Kickoff one thousand dollars, yeah, in the thousand.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, if what they've done to kickoffs is any
indication as to how they care about the position and what's.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Going to happen, He's trying to supplement his anger, He's
trying to make some money on the side.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, So the NFL deserves full responsibility and full blame
for what happened here with Isaiah Rodgers. Okay, because now
what you have done to kickoffs. You've eliminated a great
just a positional, a position in the league, something that's
got value. You've eliminated something that lets everybody know, Hey,
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the games underway, the games starting. They're trying to take
that away from everybody. And now this guy's trying to
make a little bit extra cash on the side. They've
crippled one of the great moments in the NFL, and
now you've got guys who have to open up gambling
accounts to try and make ends meet. I blame the
NFL no suspension for Isaiah Rodgers here.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh what a great rant there like that? You know what,
it's an I'm trying to defend the guy here. Let
me ask you this. You said he did it in
second person, like a second party. Yeah, yeah, an associate
to it. Okay, So my first question is what what
flagged if he had an associate doing it, what was flagged?
(07:57):
Not sure enough, said us, an associate. So let's start there.
How was he flagged for doing this through an associate?
I that we are waiting to find out the details on, okay,
because there has to be something here where it was
egregious enough for an investigation to be started, especially if
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a dude is betting twenty five and fifty dollars. Yeah,
like there's got to be something more to it than
twenty five and fifty dollars and maybe a few or
one that was one thousand dollars over one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And the way the story came out, because remember we
were here, because when you had the players who got
popped from the Lions and from the commanders, and then
this report came out like last week, that the NFL
was investigating another gambling scandal, and we didn't get the details.
And then the way this story came out, Oh it's
(08:53):
a Colts player, We think we know who the player is.
And then the player comes out without getting any of
the details out on the story to defend himself. This
feels like, in all seriousness, that this one's a little
bit more severe than maybe the Calvin Ridley and some
of these other gambling stories have been with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But again I'm trying to understand, how is it more
How is it more serious? Like if you're if you're
betting fifty dollars every week on the Colts, is that
what makes it serious? In nature? What what makes because
to me, the amount is so minuscule, Like, are you saying, okay,
(09:37):
this is maybe he's done that under over multiple accounts,
multiple people, multiple other second party people. What makes this
and listen, gambling on on your own team is like,
you're a degenerate, Like, I don't care if it's five dollars,
you're a degenerate. If you're if you're dumb enough even
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five bucks, if you're dumb enough to bet on your
own team, you're dumb like you are, Like, let's just
start there. You are a dummy. But with that being said,
if that's the case, if that's what, if that's what
this investigation is again, I just want to understand what,
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like that's not enough money where you'd be like, there's
no way this second party would have been able to
to make this bet. So how do you create a
correlation between Isaiah Rogers and the second party for gambling?
What triggered this off? What made this matter? That's what
(10:41):
I really want to know it could be.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And this is all speculation cause I think as the
way this story is gone, we're going to get more
of the details to come out throughout the next few days,
and this will open up another avenue or another pathway
to how players can possibly bet. But I think what's
my guess would be that they somehow talked with that.
(11:08):
Then maybe there was an an address that was used,
or maybe there was an email account associated to it.
But whatever the case may be, I think the worst
the worst case scenario for the NFL in this story
is if it got flagged because this person was making
bets on certain aspects.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Of a Colts game that were that.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
By him that only you know if you've got intel
on the team. That's where this could get ugly for
the NFL. But you've been on this from the start.
Why are you doing it yourself? I mean, it's dumb.
The Chris Carter fall guy thing does apply here. If
you really want to get a bet in, find somebody
else to do it. And now somebody else did it,
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and so you wait to see whether or not somebody
shot their mouth off a teammate reported it to somebody.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The Colts. I've already acknowledged.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That they are, you aware of the investigation, and they're
going to be looking into it. But this is where
the NFL opened this whole thing up and open up
this world to the league without really doing their due
diligence to find out, Hey, this is where this could
be a problem. This is what guys could do if
this were the case. And a lot of these guys,
I truly don't believe that a lot of these guys
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realize that they're doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Like Calvin Ridley bet on some Falcons games, and but
the way he did it were parlays. And I could
see Calvin Ridley saying to himself, listen, I'm sitting at home,
I'm trying to get my head together. I got a
lot of stuff going on in my life.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
There's an take a break from life and go and
just throw a little gambled down, a little parlay down.
But when when you place a parlay, that's a that's bogus.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
But when you place a parlay, you go on to
your gambling app, and anybody listening to this knows what
I'm talking about. You go on to your gambling app
and you go, all right, So who's playing this week?
I like Okay, I like the I like the Lions here.
Oh my Falcons are playing. I definitely think they're gonna win.
I like this team, this team, this team you make
a bunch of bets and then you bet the parlay
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and they all need to hit in.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Order for you to win.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
To me, that doesn't feel as drastic as at least
one hundred different bets from an account. Yes, only twenty
five to fifty dollars, but one in the four figure range,
and without a doubt on your own team. That feels
a lot worse than somebody going on saying, yeah, I
think these seven teams are gonna win in this bet
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in this week, and this is my pick for the week.
Like that, this feels like it's got a little darker
vibe to it that's been attached to it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The way it comes the moment they said he was
betting on his own team, that's that's that's the red flag.
That's the all the way red flag, because you can
draw whatever conclusion you'd like to draw from it, like
that's that's really what it comes down to. What the
details of it is, how it was flagged. I would
like to know. I would that to me is the
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juiciest part of this story because it's not enough money
involved for it to really matter. It's not like this
dude was clocking clocking cash like he was making six figured,
you know, bets on on games that he was playing in.
Like that's he's a six round draft pick. He probably
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doesn't have very much money, and in the final year
of his four year deal, he probably doesn't have very
much money. And and so in the end, what triggered this? What?
What stimulated what? What? What set off the alarm to
go investigate a twenty five fifty dollars betting dude? And
(14:50):
now it becomes an investigation, Now it becomes public domain.
Now it's being discussed over media platforms, and and people
are left to try to draw conclusions. What was the
reasoning behind this for such small bets? That's what I
would like to know, because there's something more here. I
(15:11):
feel like it. And maybe the more here is it
wasn't more other than if he got away with doing it,
other guys might start doing bigger bets on their own teams.
If somebody out there has found the loophole and is
making money off of making bets on their own team,
(15:32):
the NFL could be you know, if they get caught
up that that could be a very very bad look.
I mean, we've had that conversation multiple times on this
show that could be a bad look. If somebody thinks
that they can start making those types of bets and
be able to get away with it and find figure
(15:53):
out the loophole, then the NFL runs the risk of
having a serious situation. So maybe that's the reason why.
Maybe it's just as simple as that is that you're
talking about a guy that wasn't egregious in the amount
of money that he was spending on these bets, but
nonetheless he was betting on his own team, and that
(16:15):
that in itself in nature, like it's serious in nature
to be betting on on the NFL and you're in
the NFL. It's crazy, dumb, stupid, ridiculously boneheaded to be betting.
I don't care a dollar on your on the team
that you play on. That's what's bad. That's what's really bad.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And by the way, if you are an NFL player
and you want to play some bets, it's dude, just
let me do it for you. Let me come on,
let me do it for you. Because I could use
a win, all right, I could use any sort of
win that I could get.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So you've got intel on your own team, just hit
me up and I'll place the bet.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
For you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's the way this has got to work. I mean,
you know what I mean Like this, probably you know
the more I keep thinking about it. If you start
getting into betting money and stuff like that, I mean,
who's to say that you give that money to somebody
to bet for you and they don't keep it and
then hold it over your head. Like look here, man,
you're risking your career for this. I mean, do you
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want me to snitch? Yeah, you want me to turn
you in? Like, just take this, l I'm gonna take this.
This this five million dollars that you made, and we're
just gonna keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
What if it comes out that he started betting against
the Colts the second Jeff Saturday took over as head.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Coach, then he should get he he should get a break,
Yeah he should. He should get your extension. He should
get a warning to your extension. Yeah, he should get
a war.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
To tell you, guys, I open up a gambling account
for this. Everybody was betting against the Colts except me
be the one the first game, Yes he did.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He went on vacation. I was like, hey, I gotta
win as a coach and I'm good here.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
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Speaker 2 (18:12):
So, the NFL's got a problem. What is it? And
HBO's got a problem. What is it?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Nobody wants to do hard Knocks, you know, like nobody's
uh on its course? Yeah, just you know, teams are
trying to avoid having to be a part of Hard Knocks.
They're trying to get out of being part of Hard Knocks,
and this is normally you know, they start, you know,
letting everybody know which team is coming up, and we
all get excited for it, and man, this is going
to be great, and they do the little previews and look,
(18:41):
it's nothing against HBO. Everything HBO does is well done,
except for the show Luck. I don't know if you
ever saw that show Luck by HBO saying it was
a horse racing movie, and I just didn't think it
was all that accurate because there wasn't a death every
ten minutes vi a horse. But point being, that show
was a little bit rough. But HBO, everything they touched
(19:03):
is usually pretty fantastic. HBO boxing was always well done.
It was I actually think twenty four to seven was
on HBO, wasn't it. Yeah, twenty four to seven isn't
that where Game of Thrones is not?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Is that hbhb it is? Yeah, twenty four to seven
is what where Hart Knocks kind of came from.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, it was the reality show. Floyd Mayweather got followed around.
I think it was against dal La Hooya.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It was everybody, Yeah, and then you did it with
everybody and it was it was must seed t it
was Appointment TV to see and Floyd's twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And then they did twenty four to seven for every
big fight that they had coming up, and.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was just really really well. And then Larry Merchant
of offended Floyd and then he left and went to Showtime. Yeah,
twenty four to seven disappeared. I think Tyson also left
HBO and went to Showtime at one point, and they
was doing specials like that on Tyson it's I actually,
here's tell me If you think.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm crazy, Okay, you are all right, but random thought.
I think part of the decline of boxing has been
since HBO no longer.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Carried the sport. Do you think boxing is in decline?
You know we had a boxing segment on the show, Yes,
did you Yeah, we had a boxing segment with that
brought our our expert on. You had a boxing segment
without me. Well you aren't here. I don't. I don't
program the show when you're in. Like you know, we
do a lot of things differently if I was dictating
(20:31):
the show.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Let me tell you something. What tell me first day
you're not here? Yes, three hours of Penn State to
can play this game. You can play all break down wrestling,
We'll talk Bo Nickel, we'll get into hockey.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well you know Roman Bravo. Yeah, Young is entering into
like the UFC arena, like as an amateur, but he's
he's entering into that that realm Lee RB.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
First show, LeVar is not here. I want you to
book a yard duty from the campus of Penn State.
Get him on the air, and we'll talk two segments.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
With that person. That's so funny. Yeah, you want to
play that game. But it is a great segment to
Red Butler from Pretty Left hook Up on Game Judge
of that you got to go listen to it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, it's like finding a pair of panties you know
that aren't that aren't yours? You know, it's like, I
don't want to see that. I don't I don't need
to prove I don't need any sort of finding a
pair of panties that aren't yours, Like wait, where does
you know?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like, like what are these?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
These aren't mine? It's just it's uncomfortable. I don't wear panties,
you know what I mean. But I'm just trying to
understand where you're coming from. The point is that is true?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Are they satin? Are they?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You gotta be careful, you gotta ask, you gotta be here,
not my panty?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What you mean? You gotta be careful. You want to talk,
you want to talk about it on the radio, like
you said, you missed all of us. Yeah, listen, you
have some stuff to get off your chest.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But in regards to HBO and the NFL, yes, so
there is this, I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These are these stipulations.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
These are these regulations teams have to fit into in
order to be an HBO Hard Knock team.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
All right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
The way this works and the formula goes as such,
a team doesn't have to be on the show if
any of the three rules apply to them. They have
a first year head coach in place, they have a
playoff berth in the past two seasons, and they've appeared
on Hard Knocks in the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Past ten years.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So when you factor all of those in, but somebody
has to do the show, yes, you factor all those in.
Here are your candidates potentially for Hard Knocks based on
this formula that the NFL and HBO have come up
with and concocted somehow years ago. The Jets, the Bears,
the Saints, and the Commanders, I.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Think all are very interesting, none more than the Jets,
of course. The market Aaron Rodgers, Woody all everything at
Salah like that would be the most entertaining. Yes, I
don't think you could go wrong with the Bears. I
don't know how mainstream appealing that that one would be.
(23:38):
I think the storyline behind ownership changing in Washington would
make for a really, really interesting Hard Knocks. But at
some point you can only maybe leverage that storyline so far.
I mean, Chase Young, is he ever going to be
the same. I think we're wondering what's going on. Happened
(24:00):
with Chase doesn't seem like it. The quarterback situation air
b enemy coming there. There are some some strong storylines
that you could develop in Washington New Orleans. Is you
know that's not as attractive if you're asking me, like,
what are the storylines out and other than car going here?
(24:22):
The Derek Carr is a super nice guy, but you know,
probably not made for for HBO TV.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And also we saw him on Hard Knock a couple
of years ago and the highlight was Antonio brown burn
off a CRYD chamber coming to camp in an air Balloo. Yeah,
well that too, Yeah, the hurt and stuff. Look, the
Jets would be Option A and the Bears. There's some
storylines there. People feel like Justin Fields is the guy
(24:52):
and so you've got some stuff going on there. I
actually believe that if the sale of the Commanders had
already been final they would be the team that the
league would want in Hard Knocks, because.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
If Dan Snyder is still the owner and they did
the deal, that would make it even more interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You think so, But I don't know, but I don't
think the NFL wants to showcase anything Washington Commanders. If
the sale had already been finalized and they had gotten
this deal done, I think this would be an opportunity
for the for HBO in the NFL to present the
new look Washington Commanders. They've rid themselves of this awful
guy that nobody likes.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And now the direction.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, now the direction of the organization we're headed in
and all the other things that come along with it.
It's Ron Rivera, It's all of those those storylines that
come along with it. I feel like Washington would have
been the one the Saints again just not sold on it, not.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Sold on Chicago, not sold on the Saints. Jets and
Commanders are clearly the too strong gets candidate. Yes, yeah,
those are.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
The two so so, but apparently none of them want
the job. They don't want to be featured on Hard Knocks,
you know, like not interested in, uh in where we're going.
Maybe they got to rethink their formula. Maybe you open
up to the because you know, Jerry Jones would want
the Cowboys on Hard Knocks every year, Like he would
absolutely welcome the idea of having the Cowboys on Hard
(26:17):
Knocks every single season.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So maybe you do that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Maybe you start adjusting some of these formulas so we
can actually get a team there. And I also wonder
if it's just run its course as well too, like
as possible, because we've got so much access to the
NFL now that you almost don't need Hard Knocks because
you've got all of these other documentaries and shows and
(26:42):
programs and things built around the league. I just wonder, Look,
I would like them to be in Detroit. I'd love
to see the Lions on Hard Knocks because I want
to see how many more people are gambling in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's what I would like to see. I just think
content is always going you know, I'm in the Content gang.
Content is what always Oh jeez, that's always going to
be king. I just think they have to get a
little bit more creative in how they make like twenty
four to seven. Excuse me, Hard Knocks almost needs like
(27:19):
a revamping of the approach, is what I would say.
Don't change the format in terms of how the you know,
it's narrated, and just the quality of the shots, but
I just think that it needs to They need to
kind of figure out a way to revamp it because
(27:41):
I just think people have lost interest in it because
you don't really I don't feel like you're really getting
the real thing from these franchises. It's what they want
you to see. It doesn't it doesn't go down like
in twenty four to seven. Whatever it is that Floyd
was doing, he was giving he was literally giving you
all access. And I think that's what it was called
(28:02):
when you went to showtimes all access. Like if it's
all access, then people are going to watch it. But
fluff pieces that are very well produced, people will watch it.
They will be interested in it because that gives them
their football fix. But you're sitting there watching it, like, man,
you're giving us what you want us to see. A
little water down now, it's just very I think it
(28:25):
became so watered down because nobody wants to expose what's
really going on that it's kind of like a soap opera,
Like I don't want to see this mess, like I
want to see what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I get also the first year head coaches not being
a candidate for this, because if you're a first year
head coach, you're trying to get everything together and get
everything buttoned up and have some sort of a direction
for your team. I got to understand why having a
bunch of cameras there could throw you off a little bit,
Like that should be.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The one you don't have a bunch of cameras there anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, I'm just saying like that that should be the
one to wear pro coach, first year head coach.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're a pro. You don't need all the distractions. Deal
with it. You're a pro coach. Yeah, well, you know
what I mean. You get paid to do a job
and it's at the pro level, So maintain professionalism is
what I would say. That's all.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Remember when I think it was one man while Marquez
on twenty four to seven drank is on yer en yep,
I do remember that they said that because he didn't
want to lose any of his nutrients. Yeah, you know,
because he was that's exactly what you want to keep
your nutrients. Uh, like go get a salad and like
wring out some of your sweat on it as addressing I.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Mean, whatever it is, whatever it is that you needed
to get that nutrients from that you're drinking and your
your You know that you you could have just got
that same item to eat, right or drink. Yeah, like
like I just just replenish it with the same thing
that you use to put it in there.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I don't want to I don't want to lose anything
you know from my workout.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Ok, then you went out there and got your ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, then then go then and go dip your wings
in your bo So if that's what you're really worried about,
you don't lose anything from your workout.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He was drinking your own Patti and got your ass
with So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
God?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Was that wasted? That's that's foul.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I remember when people thought it was weird that Moisa
Salou used to urinate on his own hands because he
never wore gloves as a baseball player, and he used
to urinate on his own hands because it would toughen
him up. That's a that's much more acceptable to me
than drinking your own That just feels foul, and it
(30:34):
feels like a bit over the top. It feels like
you've got a fetish and.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That kind of goes down the road that I don't
want to venture today. No I don't either, Yeah, not me.
I mean I can only imagine what his uh you know, yeah, yeah,
you know, and the adult lane. You go down the
adult lane of how he wants to do his nutrients
and all that stuff might get a little a little sketchy.
Find out how flexible. I mean, if he's doing that
(31:01):
to try to be the best at let's go to
bird Well.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm just saying, because you got to like when you're
doing like some of the roadwork, You've got to really
you gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Really, like, you know, make sure you're allowed to have
a lot of hamstring stretch, a lot of a lot
of backstretches.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
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Speaker 2 (31:30):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Let me ask you a question, is it stressful for
you to drive a show like not? Maybe not stressful?
Maybe stressful might be too strong, But do you have
like a tabit of anxiety when you're going to do
a show and you're driving it. Never never ever, Man,
I get wiety, bro fun. I get anxiety running when
(32:22):
I was running this show. Like when I run up
on game, I have zero anxiety, but when I ran
this one, I like felt anxiety. I don't know, maybe
you just don't do it often.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well, did you ever get anxiety when you played football?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh? Yes, so you got You ever see my fingers?
My fingers man, oh as you bit them down? I'm
a bier. Yeah, and my, my my, that's like when
my nerves, like my anxiety kicks in, I bite my fingers.
I know it's people are sitting there oohing me right
now saying that's gross. But truth anxiety I get like
(32:59):
so and you don't even realize you're doing it, no,
because it's just it's just the anxiety hits like I
was filling the anxiety Friday and Monday. Man. I just
like to come in like on Friday, Monday through Friday
and even even on Saturdays, like I have you know
TJ will run the show every once in a while.
(33:20):
I just like being able to comment off of what's
set up. You know, but when you got to set
topics up and and guide it and this that and
the other and and transition it the right way and
do the reads. And I was looking at my reads,
I was I had to I had to read. I
was like, this is Jones. I was like, just don't
(33:45):
mess it up. Don't mess up to read to get through.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I just, for whatever reason radio, I've never gotten nervous.
I've never gotten anxiety. There's ever I get excited.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I just never never the same thing when I when
I was when I was doing music, when I was
in the.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Band, I would get like a.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Little anxiety or nerves, and the second we started, all.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Gone, Bro, I'd be sick, gone to my heart. I'd
be sick to my heart. Before a game, like they'd
be going out to do, whether I was a captain
or not, I'd be like, please let the offense go first.
Please let the offense go first, Please let the office
go first. I didn't want to go out for really.
I think Josh Allen still throws up before every game. Bro.
(34:35):
I just didn't. I just didn't want to go first.
I never wanted to go first. Yeah, but once you
were out there, it was oh, first hit, yeah, first
place over yeah yeah, first play is like all right,
let's rock.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But but up until then, it was like, oh s,
what's weird about that is they tell you the only
thing worse than getting your ass whooped is waiting for
it to happen.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And you were the one whooping ass. Yeah. But you know,
when you're looking at dudes that are like six six
sixty seven, three hundred, like first off, John Running, I
had to remind myself. I had to remind myself of
the Trey Johnson's and and the Trey Thomas's, and the
John Runyons and the Larry Allens. I had to remind
(35:18):
myself because I look at these athletes today. I told
you I was. I went to a Penn State game
and I was at the Iowa game with with Q
and I was like, my god, like what where? Like
these people are aliens? They're not. They're just not even
from here. They're just not from here. Meeting all that
corn bread, I guess, yes, but it's just the wildest
(35:43):
to me. It's the wildest thing to have to comprehend
that this is who you have to deal with for
four quarters every once in a while, every once in
a while the boogeyman really shows you that they're real,
Like every once in a while, like Larry Allen was
(36:05):
a real boogeyman, like he was real, Like flows l
Adams was a real boogeyman. He was It was real.
And they were on the same offensive line like it
was just they were real. I mean, it was just.
It was just very daunting before a game to sit
there and be thinking I gotta go up against them.
Or you see a running back and you're like, man,
(36:27):
there's Ed You're in James, like there's edge right there,
Peyton standing right there talking to him like f like
this is who we gotta deal with today, you know
what I mean. Like it just and your nerves be
so my nerves were really really bad. And then once
I got in and made like it not even made
(36:49):
a play, just that first play where I got to
put my hand on them and they got to put
their hand on me. I'll say the one time. It's interesting.
It was my rookie It was my rookie year and
we were in Dallas, and they had talked about how
intense the rivalry was and this that and the other
(37:10):
and Larry Allen came downhill on me and hit me,
and I couldn't breathe, like, and I saw the sweat.
This is when I knew I was in like a
real like this is a real game against a real dude.
The sweat came off of my jersey. The man knocked
(37:31):
the sweat off of my jersey, and I was like ooh,
And I went back to the huddle and they're like
you good. I was like, god dang, Bro, I was like,
but but after I got through the god dang, you
know what happened, I started laughing and and was like,
(37:55):
all right, game on. I gave Larry Allen a few
I gave some pretty big dudes. I gave them. I
gave them, I gave them all they could handle. But yeah,
I just the anxiety of it all, bro, Like just
you had to deal with it like a lot of emotion.
I was dealing with a lot of emotion on Monday
and Friday night. You know.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know it's weird though you're such a chill guy,
Like you're so relaxed that it surprises me that you
would that you feel anxiety going into stuff. What about
when you had kids, were you anxious or nervous when
your kids are about to be born.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I was anxious, Yeah, I was anxious because you never
want you never want anything to go wrong. And that's
why I was anxious. Like I wanted to count their
fingers and their toes. I wanted to smell them, like
I wanted to hear them cry, to make sure that
they were you know, everything was okay, because you know,
(38:54):
the one thing, the one thing that really really has
you like antsy and anticipating, is is she going to
be okay? Is the baby going to be okay? Yeah?
I didn't feel any of that. I just I don't
know what. I don't know what was wrong with me.
I mean, what were you thinking in the moment? All right, cool,
he's healthy. I mean before he's here, though, like you're
(39:18):
saying in the door in the chout birth, like, how
are you feeling door and shout birth whatever? I do.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I don't know, I don't know, I get there were
just there was no My whole thought was all right,
now he's here, he's breathing, everything's intact, all right, so
what's the next step. And it was just sort of like, uh,
there was not even close to crying. Not even there
was no like, no real emotions. It was just kind
(39:45):
of whatever, like let's let's go, let's let's get this done,
and let's let's be good at this.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That was That was my whole thought. I don't know,
there might be something wrong with me. I'll say this,
there could be something wrong with you. But at the
same time, we all had things differently. Yeah, you know,
I was always nervous, always nervous. Just even if I'm
like chilling, I'm still always I just always have anxiety.
(40:13):
It's the weirdest thing. Man, I'd stay having anxiety, but
I don't show it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
A lot of you talk to even the guys who
fight all the time, or you know, the guys like
UFC fighters or boxers who fight all the time, it
would be hard to find one of them that says
they're not scared before they go out, because and these
are that'll take short notice fights like this guy, Donald
Cowboy Seroni's a UFC fighter. He just retired recently. He's
(40:42):
going to the Hall of Fame. Never won a championship,
but one of the most loved fighters in the history
of the organization and in MMA because he fought everybody
was willing to fight. Everybody's short notice didn't matter, two
days notice, two hours notice. He would show up and
fight and it would be a good fight. Every time
he said he was anxious and nervous every single time,
(41:04):
and on the way out to the cage, almost every
time he would say, I don't want to do this.
I don't I don't want any part of this. The nerves,
the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You talk about that, I would never go as far
as to say I was scared. I never felt scared,
just uneasy, just the anxiety, like I got to hit
this big mother effort, Like I gotta hit him. He's
gonna hit me, Like we're we are about to thump.
We're about to thump lvar lvar, var var. Let's go
we thumping Like I'm on the inside having an all
(41:35):
out conversation with myself. Can I get him? Is he
gonna get me? Is it gonna hurt today? Oh, it's
gonna hurt. Look at that mother effort. It's gonna hurt.
Oh he's big as hell. Look at him. He's bigger
than what I thought. God dang, why is he so big?
Like you're looking at these dudes across the way, they
coming onto the field. It's like dang. And then every
(41:56):
once in a while, not often, but every once in
a while you see the crowd. Not often though, but
every once in a while. I would see the crowd
like these big mother efforts out here were about to
get this thing in. Look at all these god dang people,
Look at all these people. You know, is you mentioned
(42:18):
Larry Allen?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, man, six three three thirty five, big dude, big dude, right,
but normal compared to nowadays. Nowadays he would be viewed
as an undersized tackle. But he was viewed as that then,
six three three thirty five. Yeah, he was viewed as
undersized back then, and just a murderer. Ain't nobody like him?
(42:39):
Ain't nobody like him? There probably will never be a
lineman like Larry Allen that ever plays the game. And
then what he Bentlee, can you look up what Larry
Allen benched. I think it was like seven hundred pounds.
I think he threw out was like seven hundred pounds
at the Pro Bowl or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Let's go. He did it. He did it in the
weight room in Dallas too. Though his largest one, his lot,
his largest amount was in I believe in in their facility.
Let's go live to Larry Allen Spotter lead to Live
for the latest Lee. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I am looking at him benching seven hundred pounds right now,
and I believe at the combine it was two twenty
five forty three times.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh my god, that's a lot a lot man, forty
three times. I mean to comprehend that. I've seen him lift.
I've seen him, dude. I was at that Pro Bowl
when it was lifting. It's crazy man. Two twenty five
forty three times. Bruh. It looked like he was like
(43:39):
lifting a kid. Wait. Oh my god, it looked like
he was lifting a kid. Wait. And I don't think
he had like super short arms, did he?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Not super short, because like some of that super long though.
He's a little doue. Oh my god, he's kind of
like a little dude. That's hilarious. Two twenty five forty
three times. There's just so much going on in that
man's body. I guess because he was assassinating people. Bro
a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
It's multiple time All pros, eleven time pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
He was assassinating. Yeah, what a great career he had, man,
Damn he had a great career started at the couple
levels though there was a couple levem that you just man,
you just didn't want to deal with him mane.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, So the great Larry Alan two twenty five forty
three times. How many times could you throw up two
twenty five right now? Well, I've been doing sets with
two twenty five for ten. I did four sets of ten,
so that's forty.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Imagine multiplying that the one set you did four times times. Yeah.
I just don't have the muscle stamina like that. I
don't I'm not a I'm a sprinter. I don't have
stamina fatigue. Larry Allen was a freak show.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mischief guys, man, Yeah right, I did. Who's you guys?
I mean, what do you mean you you lap Lee
wasn't here the listeners, Okay, Edmund Garcia, Yeah that's Fairy
is here. Edmund was here? Yeah, true, Yeah, some of
us was working. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, listen,
(00:34):
man's giving us away. Wile's all right, Well some of
y'all were you know, you know, doing whatever you were doing.
Oh come on, some of us were here, you know,
trying to make sure this uh, this fair hair show
continues to grow and do well. So yeah, thanks for
coming back. Day. Man, it's the least I could do. Nice.
Nice to hear your voice, man, Yeah, you know, it's
the least I could do. Yeah, I guess. You know,
(00:56):
you know, when the big ballers are around, you know,
as you know, the B Group dudes, you know, we
got to try to do our best, you know, keep
things afloat. You're not a B group guy to me, though,
a group first class. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're Errington. Your
name starts with an A. That's why you're in a group.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
By the way, I think you and I might have
been near each other and we didn't know. Were you
in San Diego? Yes, yeah, I was there too, Yeah, Safari,
I went to the zoo.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah we were close. How about us? How about that? Yeah,
can't keep us away.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And then I was at work. Yeah that's all right.
Oh I was working too. There's a bunch of kids
with us. All right, there was a lot of work there.
I mean I had a bunch of kids with me too. Yeah,
well listen all mine. Yeah, that definitely wasn't the case here.
There was a lot going on. But nonetheless it is.
It is fun to be bad.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You feel it? Yes? Okay, good, So did you get
it off your chest? That's almost gone. Okay, know it's
almost gone. Wait till Q gets back, Wait till wait
till I give me this hard time. You know what
we're gonna do. Just lay back the first segment and
let me just let him go first segment, and then
how about first show. Just yell for the back headington
(02:16):
read and make him do all the work. Yeah, yeah,
first show back. He's doing the whole show, whole show,
the whole entire shows and out's teases, welcome back into
the show. Take it que yep, Yeah, there you go,
and then you and I will have ribs. Yeah, well
just even try any of them. So you didn't let
me have any.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I tried to on the way out, LeVar and grabbed
it and said you lost your chance, kissed my ass
and told me to walk out the front door with
no ribs. So very very unfortunate it is. We are
back here and we're gonna have some fun. And again
it's a three hour extravaganza, and the three hour extravaganza
(02:55):
starts and just the perfect way possible for the National
Football League. This is just a wonderful story. Finally we
got something here. A gambling scandal.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Matt Rebikowski.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And if I screwed his name up, I apologize of
Sportshandle dot com, he says, And he reported on this
that the NFL is investigating a Colts player for gambling.
Now ESPN was reporting yesterday that the player involved is
cornerback slash kick returner Isaiah Rodgers. Oh and then Isaiah
(03:39):
Rodgers himself confirmed, yes, it's me that may have a
gambling problem. Ohh And so here is the details of
this report. According to ESPN and Against Against sportshandle dot com,
who are all over this and did a great job
on it. The sports betting account was opened under the
name of an associate of Rogers. There were approximately one
(04:02):
hundred bets placed with the account, including on Colts games.
Most of the bets were in the twenty five to
fifty dollars range, but at least one was a four
figure bet. Now, the statement from Isaiah Rodgers himself on
social media said the following quote, addressing the current reports,
I want to take full responsibility for my actions. I
(04:23):
know I have made mistakes, and I'm willing to do
whatever it takes to repair the situation. The last thing
I ever wanted to do was to be a distraction
to the Colts organization, my coaches, and my teammates. I've
let people down that I care about. I made an
air in judgment, and I'm going to work hard to
make sure that those mistakes are rectified through the process.
It's an honor to play in the NFL, and I
(04:45):
have never taken that lightly. I am very sorry for
all of this. End of statement for Isaiah Rogers. So
it's the second time Aye Rogers has been in the
news this offseason. One is now a jet and the
other one apparently is on the set of Casino just
make and making bets place in wagers.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This is now now we're talking.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, enough of this rinky dink seventeen parlay stories, enough
of these college football bets that guys got popped for.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This dude is gambling. He's in it to win it,
and to win it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Don't sound like he's betting that much though. Twenty five
to fifty bucks for me, that's not a lot of that.
I would shut the lights off for three hours to
make sure I had enough money in the account. Oh
my gosh, to try and get a bet in. I
know what you make, Okay, But here's here's the part
that I would like to point out here. First of all,
I blame the NFL. I think the NFL and we
could say, look, you got to be accountable for your actions,
(05:41):
and I get all that, But the NFL has some
fault in this as well too, because the NFL wanted
to get in the gambling world. Because the NFL saw
the money that they could be making and realize, oh,
let's get into it, and they didn't do a good
enough job buttoning up what could be the potential pitfalls
some of these players who now have access to a
(06:02):
gambling account and don't realize, Hey, maybe I shouldn't be
doing this, Maybe this is a bad look, Maybe this
is illegal. Maybe I should read instructions and read the
warnings and all the other things that come along with
us accepting this into our league from the Players Association, etc.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Etc.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I blame the NFL in that regard. Here's also
why I blame the National Football League for Isaiah Rodgers
getting popped for placing one hundred bets, some of which
may have been on the Colts reportedly, and one four
figure bet. He is also a kick returner, and with
what they've done to.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Kickoff one thousand dollars, yeah, in the thousand.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, if what they've done to kickoffs is any
indication as to how they care about the position and what's.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Going to happen, He's trying to supplement his anger, He's
trying to make some money on the side.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, So the NFL deserves full responsibility and full blame
for what happened here with Isaiah Rodgers. Okay, because now
what you have done to kickoffs. You've eliminated a great
just a positional, a position in the league, something that's
got value. You've eliminated something that lets everybody know, Hey,
(07:15):
the games underway, the games starting. They're trying to take
that away from everybody. And now this guy's trying to
make a little bit extra cash on the side. They've
crippled one of the great moments in the NFL, and
now you've got guys who have to open up gambling
accounts to try and make ends meet. I blame the
NFL no suspension for Isaiah Rodgers here.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh what a great rant there like that? You know what,
it's an I'm trying to defend the guy here. Let
me ask you this. You said he did it in
second person, like a second party. Yeah, yeah, an associate
to it. Okay, So my first question is what what
flagged if he had an associate doing it, what was flagged?
(07:57):
Not sure enough, said us, an associate. So let's start there.
How was he flagged for doing this through an associate?
I that we are waiting to find out the details on, okay,
because there has to be something here where it was
egregious enough for an investigation to be started, especially if
(08:17):
a dude is betting twenty five and fifty dollars. Yeah,
like there's got to be something more to it than
twenty five and fifty dollars and maybe a few or
one that was one thousand dollars over one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And the way the story came out, because remember we
were here, because when you had the players who got
popped from the Lions and from the commanders, and then
this report came out like last week, that the NFL
was investigating another gambling scandal, and we didn't get the details.
And then the way this story came out, Oh it's
(08:53):
a Colts player, We think we know who the player is.
And then the player comes out without getting any of
the details out on the story to defend himself. This
feels like, in all seriousness, that this one's a little
bit more severe than maybe the Calvin Ridley and some
of these other gambling stories have been with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But again I'm trying to understand, how is it more
How is it more serious? Like if you're if you're
betting fifty dollars every week on the Colts, is that
what makes it serious? In nature? What what makes because
to me, the amount is so minuscule, Like, are you saying, okay,
(09:37):
this is maybe he's done that under over multiple accounts,
multiple people, multiple other second party people. What makes this
and listen, gambling on on your own team is like,
you're a degenerate, Like, I don't care if it's five dollars,
you're a degenerate. If you're if you're dumb enough even
(10:00):
five bucks, if you're dumb enough to bet on your
own team, you're dumb like you are, Like, let's just
start there. You are a dummy. But with that being said,
if that's the case, if that's what, if that's what
this investigation is again, I just want to understand what,
(10:20):
like that's not enough money where you'd be like, there's
no way this second party would have been able to
to make this bet. So how do you create a
correlation between Isaiah Rogers and the second party for gambling?
What triggered this off? What made this matter? That's what
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I really want to know it could be.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And this is all speculation cause I think as the
way this story is gone, we're going to get more
of the details to come out throughout the next few days,
and this will open up another avenue or another pathway
to how players can possibly bet. But I think what's
my guess would be that they somehow talked with that.
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Then maybe there was an an address that was used,
or maybe there was an email account associated to it.
But whatever the case may be, I think the worst
the worst case scenario for the NFL in this story
is if it got flagged because this person was making
bets on certain aspects.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Of a Colts game that were that.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
By him that only you know if you've got intel
on the team. That's where this could get ugly for
the NFL. But you've been on this from the start.
Why are you doing it yourself? I mean, it's dumb.
The Chris Carter fall guy thing does apply here. If
you really want to get a bet in, find somebody
else to do it. And now somebody else did it,
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and so you wait to see whether or not somebody
shot their mouth off a teammate reported it to somebody.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The Colts. I've already acknowledged.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That they are, you aware of the investigation, and they're
going to be looking into it. But this is where
the NFL opened this whole thing up and open up
this world to the league without really doing their due
diligence to find out, Hey, this is where this could
be a problem. This is what guys could do if
this were the case. And a lot of these guys,
I truly don't believe that a lot of these guys
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realize that they're doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Like Calvin Ridley bet on some Falcons games, and but
the way he did it were parlays. And I could
see Calvin Ridley saying to himself, listen, I'm sitting at home,
I'm trying to get my head together. I got a
lot of stuff going on in my life.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
There's an take a break from life and go and
just throw a little gambled down, a little parlay down.
But when when you place a parlay, that's a that's bogus.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
But when you place a parlay, you go on to
your gambling app, and anybody listening to this knows what
I'm talking about. You go on to your gambling app
and you go, all right, So who's playing this week?
I like Okay, I like the I like the Lions here.
Oh my Falcons are playing. I definitely think they're gonna win.
I like this team, this team, this team you make
a bunch of bets and then you bet the parlay
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and they all need to hit in.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Order for you to win.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
To me, that doesn't feel as drastic as at least
one hundred different bets from an account. Yes, only twenty
five to fifty dollars, but one in the four figure range,
and without a doubt on your own team. That feels
a lot worse than somebody going on saying, yeah, I
think these seven teams are gonna win in this bet
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in this week, and this is my pick for the week.
Like that, this feels like it's got a little darker
vibe to it that's been attached to it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The way it comes the moment they said he was
betting on his own team, that's that's that's the red flag.
That's the all the way red flag, because you can
draw whatever conclusion you'd like to draw from it, like
that's that's really what it comes down to. What the
details of it is, how it was flagged. I would
like to know. I would that to me is the
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juiciest part of this story because it's not enough money
involved for it to really matter. It's not like this
dude was clocking clocking cash like he was making six figured,
you know, bets on on games that he was playing in.
Like that's he's a six round draft pick. He probably
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doesn't have very much money, and in the final year
of his four year deal, he probably doesn't have very
much money. And and so in the end, what triggered this? What?
What stimulated what? What? What set off the alarm to
go investigate a twenty five fifty dollars betting dude? And
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now it becomes an investigation, Now it becomes public domain.
Now it's being discussed over media platforms, and and people
are left to try to draw conclusions. What was the
reasoning behind this for such small bets? That's what I
would like to know, because there's something more here. I
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feel like it. And maybe the more here is it
wasn't more other than if he got away with doing it,
other guys might start doing bigger bets on their own teams.
If somebody out there has found the loophole and is
making money off of making bets on their own team,
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the NFL could be you know, if they get caught
up that that could be a very very bad look.
I mean, we've had that conversation multiple times on this
show that could be a bad look. If somebody thinks
that they can start making those types of bets and
be able to get away with it and find figure
(15:53):
out the loophole, then the NFL runs the risk of
having a serious situation. So maybe that's the reason why.
Maybe it's just as simple as that is that you're
talking about a guy that wasn't egregious in the amount
of money that he was spending on these bets, but
nonetheless he was betting on his own team, and that
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that in itself in nature, like it's serious in nature
to be betting on on the NFL and you're in
the NFL. It's crazy, dumb, stupid, ridiculously boneheaded to be betting.
I don't care a dollar on your on the team
that you play on. That's what's bad. That's what's really bad.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And by the way, if you are an NFL player
and you want to play some bets, it's dude, just
let me do it for you. Let me come on,
let me do it for you. Because I could use
a win, all right, I could use any sort of
win that I could get.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So you've got intel on your own team, just hit
me up and I'll place the bet.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
For you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's the way this has got to work. I mean,
you know what I mean Like this, probably you know
the more I keep thinking about it. If you start
getting into betting money and stuff like that, I mean,
who's to say that you give that money to somebody
to bet for you and they don't keep it and
then hold it over your head. Like look here, man,
you're risking your career for this. I mean, do you
(17:13):
want me to snitch? Yeah, you want me to turn
you in? Like, just take this, l I'm gonna take this.
This this five million dollars that you made, and we're
just gonna keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
What if it comes out that he started betting against
the Colts the second Jeff Saturday took over as head.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Coach, then he should get he he should get a break,
Yeah he should. He should get your extension. He should
get a warning to your extension. Yeah, he should get
a war.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
To tell you, guys, I open up a gambling account
for this. Everybody was betting against the Colts except me
be the one the first game, Yes he did.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He went on vacation. I was like, hey, I gotta
win as a coach and I'm good here.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
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Speaker 2 (18:12):
So, the NFL's got a problem. What is it? And
HBO's got a problem. What is it?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Nobody wants to do hard Knocks, you know, like nobody's
uh on its course? Yeah, just you know, teams are
trying to avoid having to be a part of Hard Knocks.
They're trying to get out of being part of Hard Knocks,
and this is normally you know, they start, you know,
letting everybody know which team is coming up, and we
all get excited for it, and man, this is going
to be great, and they do the little previews and look,
(18:41):
it's nothing against HBO. Everything HBO does is well done,
except for the show Luck. I don't know if you
ever saw that show Luck by HBO saying it was
a horse racing movie, and I just didn't think it
was all that accurate because there wasn't a death every
ten minutes vi a horse. But point being, that show
was a little bit rough. But HBO, everything they touched
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is usually pretty fantastic. HBO boxing was always well done.
It was I actually think twenty four to seven was
on HBO, wasn't it. Yeah, twenty four to seven isn't
that where Game of Thrones is not?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Is that hbhb it is? Yeah, twenty four to seven
is what where Hart Knocks kind of came from.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, it was the reality show. Floyd Mayweather got followed around.
I think it was against dal La Hooya.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It was everybody, Yeah, and then you did it with
everybody and it was it was must seed t it
was Appointment TV to see and Floyd's twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And then they did twenty four to seven for every
big fight that they had coming up, and.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was just really really well. And then Larry Merchant
of offended Floyd and then he left and went to Showtime. Yeah,
twenty four to seven disappeared. I think Tyson also left
HBO and went to Showtime at one point, and they
was doing specials like that on Tyson it's I actually,
here's tell me If you think.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm crazy, Okay, you are all right, but random thought.
I think part of the decline of boxing has been
since HBO no longer.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Carried the sport. Do you think boxing is in decline?
You know we had a boxing segment on the show, Yes,
did you Yeah, we had a boxing segment with that
brought our our expert on. You had a boxing segment
without me. Well you aren't here. I don't. I don't
program the show when you're in. Like you know, we
do a lot of things differently if I was dictating
(20:31):
the show.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Let me tell you something. What tell me first day
you're not here? Yes, three hours of Penn State to
can play this game. You can play all break down wrestling,
We'll talk Bo Nickel, we'll get into hockey.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well you know Roman Bravo. Yeah, Young is entering into
like the UFC arena, like as an amateur, but he's
he's entering into that that realm Lee RB.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
First show, LeVar is not here. I want you to
book a yard duty from the campus of Penn State.
Get him on the air, and we'll talk two segments.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
With that person. That's so funny. Yeah, you want to
play that game. But it is a great segment to
Red Butler from Pretty Left hook Up on Game Judge
of that you got to go listen to it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, it's like finding a pair of panties you know
that aren't that aren't yours? You know, it's like, I
don't want to see that. I don't I don't need
to prove I don't need any sort of finding a
pair of panties that aren't yours, Like wait, where does
you know?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like, like what are these?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
These aren't mine? It's just it's uncomfortable. I don't wear panties,
you know what I mean. But I'm just trying to
understand where you're coming from. The point is that is true?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Are they satin? Are they?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You gotta be careful, you gotta ask, you gotta be here,
not my panty?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What you mean? You gotta be careful. You want to talk,
you want to talk about it on the radio, like
you said, you missed all of us. Yeah, listen, you
have some stuff to get off your chest.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But in regards to HBO and the NFL, yes, so
there is this, I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These are these stipulations.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
These are these regulations teams have to fit into in
order to be an HBO Hard Knock team.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
All right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
The way this works and the formula goes as such,
a team doesn't have to be on the show if
any of the three rules apply to them. They have
a first year head coach in place, they have a
playoff berth in the past two seasons, and they've appeared
on Hard Knocks in the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Past ten years.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So when you factor all of those in, but somebody
has to do the show, yes, you factor all those in.
Here are your candidates potentially for Hard Knocks based on
this formula that the NFL and HBO have come up
with and concocted somehow years ago. The Jets, the Bears,
the Saints, and the Commanders, I.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Think all are very interesting, none more than the Jets,
of course. The market Aaron Rodgers, Woody all everything at
Salah like that would be the most entertaining. Yes, I
don't think you could go wrong with the Bears. I
don't know how mainstream appealing that that one would be.
(23:38):
I think the storyline behind ownership changing in Washington would
make for a really, really interesting Hard Knocks. But at
some point you can only maybe leverage that storyline so far.
I mean, Chase Young, is he ever going to be
the same. I think we're wondering what's going on. Happened
(24:00):
with Chase doesn't seem like it. The quarterback situation air
b enemy coming there. There are some some strong storylines
that you could develop in Washington New Orleans. Is you
know that's not as attractive if you're asking me, like,
what are the storylines out and other than car going here?
(24:22):
The Derek Carr is a super nice guy, but you know,
probably not made for for HBO TV.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And also we saw him on Hard Knock a couple
of years ago and the highlight was Antonio brown burn
off a CRYD chamber coming to camp in an air Balloo. Yeah,
well that too, Yeah, the hurt and stuff. Look, the
Jets would be Option A and the Bears. There's some
storylines there. People feel like Justin Fields is the guy
(24:52):
and so you've got some stuff going on there. I
actually believe that if the sale of the Commanders had
already been final they would be the team that the
league would want in Hard Knocks, because.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
If Dan Snyder is still the owner and they did
the deal, that would make it even more interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You think so, But I don't know, but I don't
think the NFL wants to showcase anything Washington Commanders. If
the sale had already been finalized and they had gotten
this deal done, I think this would be an opportunity
for the for HBO in the NFL to present the
new look Washington Commanders. They've rid themselves of this awful
guy that nobody likes.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And now the direction.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, now the direction of the organization we're headed in
and all the other things that come along with it.
It's Ron Rivera, It's all of those those storylines that
come along with it. I feel like Washington would have
been the one the Saints again just not sold on it, not.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Sold on Chicago, not sold on the Saints. Jets and
Commanders are clearly the too strong gets candidate. Yes, yeah,
those are.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
The two so so, but apparently none of them want
the job. They don't want to be featured on Hard Knocks,
you know, like not interested in, uh in where we're going.
Maybe they got to rethink their formula. Maybe you open
up to the because you know, Jerry Jones would want
the Cowboys on Hard Knocks every year, Like he would
absolutely welcome the idea of having the Cowboys on Hard
(26:17):
Knocks every single season.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So maybe you do that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Maybe you start adjusting some of these formulas so we
can actually get a team there. And I also wonder
if it's just run its course as well too, like
as possible, because we've got so much access to the
NFL now that you almost don't need Hard Knocks because
you've got all of these other documentaries and shows and
(26:42):
programs and things built around the league. I just wonder, Look,
I would like them to be in Detroit. I'd love
to see the Lions on Hard Knocks because I want
to see how many more people are gambling in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's what I would like to see. I just think
content is always going you know, I'm in the Content gang.
Content is what always Oh jeez, that's always going to
be king. I just think they have to get a
little bit more creative in how they make like twenty
four to seven. Excuse me, Hard Knocks almost needs like
(27:19):
a revamping of the approach, is what I would say.
Don't change the format in terms of how the you know,
it's narrated, and just the quality of the shots, but
I just think that it needs to They need to
kind of figure out a way to revamp it because
(27:41):
I just think people have lost interest in it because
you don't really I don't feel like you're really getting
the real thing from these franchises. It's what they want
you to see. It doesn't it doesn't go down like
in twenty four to seven. Whatever it is that Floyd
was doing, he was giving he was literally giving you
all access. And I think that's what it was called
(28:02):
when you went to showtimes all access. Like if it's
all access, then people are going to watch it. But
fluff pieces that are very well produced, people will watch it.
They will be interested in it because that gives them
their football fix. But you're sitting there watching it, like, man,
you're giving us what you want us to see. A
little water down now, it's just very I think it
(28:25):
became so watered down because nobody wants to expose what's
really going on that it's kind of like a soap opera,
Like I don't want to see this mess, like I
want to see what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I get also the first year head coaches not being
a candidate for this, because if you're a first year
head coach, you're trying to get everything together and get
everything buttoned up and have some sort of a direction
for your team. I got to understand why having a
bunch of cameras there could throw you off a little bit,
Like that should be.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The one you don't have a bunch of cameras there anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, I'm just saying like that that should be the
one to wear pro coach, first year head coach.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're a pro. You don't need all the distractions. Deal
with it. You're a pro coach. Yeah, well, you know
what I mean. You get paid to do a job
and it's at the pro level, So maintain professionalism is
what I would say. That's all.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Remember when I think it was one man while Marquez
on twenty four to seven drank is on yer en yep,
I do remember that they said that because he didn't
want to lose any of his nutrients. Yeah, you know,
because he was that's exactly what you want to keep
your nutrients. Uh, like go get a salad and like
wring out some of your sweat on it as addressing I.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Mean, whatever it is, whatever it is that you needed
to get that nutrients from that you're drinking and your
your You know that you you could have just got
that same item to eat, right or drink. Yeah, like
like I just just replenish it with the same thing
that you use to put it in there.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I don't want to I don't want to lose anything
you know from my workout.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Ok, then you went out there and got your ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, then then go then and go dip your wings
in your bo So if that's what you're really worried about,
you don't lose anything from your workout.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He was drinking your own Patti and got your ass
with So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
God?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Was that wasted? That's that's foul.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I remember when people thought it was weird that Moisa
Salou used to urinate on his own hands because he
never wore gloves as a baseball player, and he used
to urinate on his own hands because it would toughen
him up. That's a that's much more acceptable to me
than drinking your own That just feels foul, and it
(30:34):
feels like a bit over the top. It feels like
you've got a fetish and.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That kind of goes down the road that I don't
want to venture today. No I don't either, Yeah, not me.
I mean I can only imagine what his uh you know, yeah, yeah,
you know, and the adult lane. You go down the
adult lane of how he wants to do his nutrients
and all that stuff might get a little a little sketchy.
Find out how flexible. I mean, if he's doing that
(31:01):
to try to be the best at let's go to
bird Well.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm just saying, because you got to like when you're
doing like some of the roadwork, You've got to really
you gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Really, like, you know, make sure you're allowed to have
a lot of hamstring stretch, a lot of a lot
of backstretches.
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Let me ask you a question, is it stressful for
you to drive a show like not? Maybe not stressful?
Maybe stressful might be too strong, But do you have
like a tabit of anxiety when you're going to do
a show and you're driving it. Never never ever, Man,
I get wiety, bro fun. I get anxiety running when
(32:22):
I was running this show. Like when I run up
on game, I have zero anxiety, but when I ran
this one, I like felt anxiety. I don't know, maybe
you just don't do it often.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well, did you ever get anxiety when you played football?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh? Yes, so you got You ever see my fingers?
My fingers man, oh as you bit them down? I'm
a bier. Yeah, and my, my my, that's like when
my nerves, like my anxiety kicks in, I bite my fingers.
I know it's people are sitting there oohing me right
now saying that's gross. But truth anxiety I get like
(32:59):
so and you don't even realize you're doing it, no,
because it's just it's just the anxiety hits like I
was filling the anxiety Friday and Monday. Man. I just
like to come in like on Friday, Monday through Friday
and even even on Saturdays, like I have you know
TJ will run the show every once in a while.
(33:20):
I just like being able to comment off of what's
set up. You know, but when you got to set
topics up and and guide it and this that and
the other and and transition it the right way and
do the reads. And I was looking at my reads,
I was I had to I had to read. I
was like, this is Jones. I was like, just don't
(33:45):
mess it up. Don't mess up to read to get through.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I just, for whatever reason radio, I've never gotten nervous.
I've never gotten anxiety. There's ever I get excited.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I just never never the same thing when I when
I was when I was doing music, when I was
in the.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Band, I would get like a.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Little anxiety or nerves, and the second we started, all.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Gone, Bro, I'd be sick, gone to my heart. I'd
be sick to my heart. Before a game, like they'd
be going out to do, whether I was a captain
or not, I'd be like, please let the offense go first.
Please let the offense go first, Please let the office
go first. I didn't want to go out for really.
I think Josh Allen still throws up before every game. Bro.
(34:35):
I just didn't. I just didn't want to go first.
I never wanted to go first. Yeah, but once you
were out there, it was oh, first hit, yeah, first
place over yeah yeah, first play is like all right,
let's rock.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But but up until then, it was like, oh s,
what's weird about that is they tell you the only
thing worse than getting your ass whooped is waiting for
it to happen.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And you were the one whooping ass. Yeah. But you know,
when you're looking at dudes that are like six six
sixty seven, three hundred, like first off, John Running, I
had to remind myself. I had to remind myself of
the Trey Johnson's and and the Trey Thomas's, and the
John Runyons and the Larry Allens. I had to remind
(35:18):
myself because I look at these athletes today. I told
you I was. I went to a Penn State game
and I was at the Iowa game with with Q
and I was like, my god, like what where? Like
these people are aliens? They're not. They're just not even
from here. They're just not from here. Meeting all that
corn bread, I guess, yes, but it's just the wildest
(35:43):
to me. It's the wildest thing to have to comprehend
that this is who you have to deal with for
four quarters every once in a while, every once in
a while the boogeyman really shows you that they're real,
Like every once in a while, like Larry Allen was
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a real boogeyman, like he was real, Like flows l
Adams was a real boogeyman. He was It was real.
And they were on the same offensive line like it
was just they were real. I mean, it was just.
It was just very daunting before a game to sit
there and be thinking I gotta go up against them.
Or you see a running back and you're like, man,
(36:27):
there's Ed You're in James, like there's edge right there,
Peyton standing right there talking to him like f like
this is who we gotta deal with today, you know
what I mean. Like it just and your nerves be
so my nerves were really really bad. And then once
I got in and made like it not even made
(36:49):
a play, just that first play where I got to
put my hand on them and they got to put
their hand on me. I'll say the one time. It's interesting.
It was my rookie It was my rookie year and
we were in Dallas, and they had talked about how
intense the rivalry was and this that and the other
(37:10):
and Larry Allen came downhill on me and hit me,
and I couldn't breathe, like, and I saw the sweat.
This is when I knew I was in like a
real like this is a real game against a real dude.
The sweat came off of my jersey. The man knocked
(37:31):
the sweat off of my jersey, and I was like ooh,
And I went back to the huddle and they're like
you good. I was like, god dang, Bro, I was like,
but but after I got through the god dang, you
know what happened, I started laughing and and was like,
(37:55):
all right, game on. I gave Larry Allen a few
I gave some pretty big dudes. I gave them. I
gave them, I gave them all they could handle. But yeah,
I just the anxiety of it all, bro, Like just
you had to deal with it like a lot of emotion.
I was dealing with a lot of emotion on Monday
and Friday night. You know.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know it's weird though you're such a chill guy,
Like you're so relaxed that it surprises me that you
would that you feel anxiety going into stuff. What about
when you had kids, were you anxious or nervous when
your kids are about to be born.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I was anxious, Yeah, I was anxious because you never
want you never want anything to go wrong. And that's
why I was anxious. Like I wanted to count their
fingers and their toes. I wanted to smell them, like
I wanted to hear them cry, to make sure that
they were you know, everything was okay, because you know,
(38:54):
the one thing, the one thing that really really has
you like antsy and anticipating, is is she going to
be okay? Is the baby going to be okay? Yeah?
I didn't feel any of that. I just I don't
know what. I don't know what was wrong with me.
I mean, what were you thinking in the moment? All right, cool,
he's healthy. I mean before he's here, though, like you're
(39:18):
saying in the door in the chout birth, like, how
are you feeling door and shout birth whatever? I do.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I don't know, I don't know, I get there were
just there was no My whole thought was all right,
now he's here, he's breathing, everything's intact, all right, so
what's the next step. And it was just sort of like, uh,
there was not even close to crying. Not even there
was no like, no real emotions. It was just kind
(39:45):
of whatever, like let's let's go, let's let's get this done,
and let's let's be good at this.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That was That was my whole thought. I don't know,
there might be something wrong with me. I'll say this,
there could be something wrong with you. But at the
same time, we all had things differently. Yeah, you know,
I was always nervous, always nervous. Just even if I'm
like chilling, I'm still always I just always have anxiety.
(40:13):
It's the weirdest thing. Man, I'd stay having anxiety, but
I don't show it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
A lot of you talk to even the guys who
fight all the time, or you know, the guys like
UFC fighters or boxers who fight all the time, it
would be hard to find one of them that says
they're not scared before they go out, because and these
are that'll take short notice fights like this guy, Donald
Cowboy Seroni's a UFC fighter. He just retired recently. He's
(40:42):
going to the Hall of Fame. Never won a championship,
but one of the most loved fighters in the history
of the organization and in MMA because he fought everybody
was willing to fight. Everybody's short notice didn't matter, two
days notice, two hours notice. He would show up and
fight and it would be a good fight. Every time
he said he was anxious and nervous every single time,
(41:04):
and on the way out to the cage, almost every
time he would say, I don't want to do this.
I don't I don't want any part of this. The nerves,
the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You talk about that, I would never go as far
as to say I was scared. I never felt scared,
just uneasy, just the anxiety, like I got to hit
this big mother effort, Like I gotta hit him. He's
gonna hit me, Like we're we are about to thump.
We're about to thump lvar lvar, var var. Let's go
we thumping Like I'm on the inside having an all
(41:35):
out conversation with myself. Can I get him? Is he
gonna get me? Is it gonna hurt today? Oh, it's
gonna hurt. Look at that mother effort. It's gonna hurt.
Oh he's big as hell. Look at him. He's bigger
than what I thought. God dang, why is he so big?
Like you're looking at these dudes across the way, they
coming onto the field. It's like dang. And then every
(41:56):
once in a while, not often, but every once in
a while you see the crowd. Not often though, but
every once in a while. I would see the crowd
like these big mother efforts out here were about to
get this thing in. Look at all these god dang people,
Look at all these people. You know, is you mentioned
(42:18):
Larry Allen?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, man, six three three thirty five, big dude, big dude, right,
but normal compared to nowadays. Nowadays he would be viewed
as an undersized tackle. But he was viewed as that then,
six three three thirty five. Yeah, he was viewed as
undersized back then, and just a murderer. Ain't nobody like him?
(42:39):
Ain't nobody like him? There probably will never be a
lineman like Larry Allen that ever plays the game. And
then what he Bentlee, can you look up what Larry
Allen benched. I think it was like seven hundred pounds.
I think he threw out was like seven hundred pounds
at the Pro Bowl or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Let's go. He did it. He did it in the
weight room in Dallas too. Though his largest one, his lot,
his largest amount was in I believe in in their facility.
Let's go live to Larry Allen Spotter lead to Live
for the latest Lee. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I am looking at him benching seven hundred pounds right now,
and I believe at the combine it was two twenty
five forty three times.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh my god, that's a lot a lot man, forty
three times. I mean to comprehend that. I've seen him lift.
I've seen him, dude. I was at that Pro Bowl
when it was lifting. It's crazy man. Two twenty five
forty three times. Bruh. It looked like he was like
(43:39):
lifting a kid. Wait. Oh my god, it looked like
he was lifting a kid. Wait. And I don't think
he had like super short arms, did he?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Not super short, because like some of that super long though.
He's a little doue. Oh my god, he's kind of
like a little dude. That's hilarious. Two twenty five forty
three times. There's just so much going on in that
man's body. I guess because he was assassinating people. Bro
a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
It's multiple time All pros, eleven time pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
He was assassinating. Yeah, what a great career he had, man,
Damn he had a great career started at the couple
levels though there was a couple levem that you just man,
you just didn't want to deal with him mane.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, So the great Larry Alan two twenty five forty
three times. How many times could you throw up two
twenty five right now? Well, I've been doing sets with
two twenty five for ten. I did four sets of ten,
so that's forty.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Imagine multiplying that the one set you did four times times. Yeah.
I just don't have the muscle stamina like that. I
don't I'm not a I'm a sprinter. I don't have
stamina fatigue. Larry Allen was a freak show.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
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