June 7, 2022 • 34 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys celebrate Brady Quinn’s brother-in-law Jack Johnson and the Colorado Avalanche sweeping the Oilers to advance to the Stanley Cup Final. Breaking News of Dustin Johnson resigning from the PGA Tour in order to join the LIV Golf Series and Aaron Donald becomes the highest paid non-QB in NFL history.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks
on Fox Sports Radio. How are we feeling here on
a Tuesday? Ye were feeling? Yeah? Awesome? Yeah, the ranch
with the sweep, Yeah, the brooms out the sweep. Yeah.
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Now we gotta make lightning, have to do it. We
gotta make plans. Well, who does it another side now? Yeah?
Jack jonasan the brother in law Brady Quinn to go
see the Avalanche playing Florida and Tampa. Yeah, I mean
it would be nice because I can drive across to
see that and then I can fly out to Denver
to see that. But either way, baby, I'm going to
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a Cup game. Yeah, it's gonna be so fun. That's
pretty cool to have cool family like that, man, you know,
and that are doing a whole lot in life. You know.
The cool thing about it is it's it's it's sports,
but it's it's still so different, like the feeling towards
hockey and just how often they play, but it's still
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a physical sport and so you can relate to a
lot of those things. But um, even just the way
the playoffs are how long and drawn out the the
you know, the Stanley Cup playoffs are it's a it's
a long process. And you know, for for Jack Johnson, um,
you know, my brother in law, and knowing his story,
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he's been at this for so long. I mean he
played as one thousand regular season game this year and
and now finally have the chance to play for one
and win one. Like it's just it's an incredible moment
for him. And and thinking about he made the team
via a tryout, I mean, it's one of the it's
one of the all time like awesome stories in my
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mind in hockey for everything that I think that's happened
in his life, but also just now this opportunity to
to be at the pinnacle of that sport. You know
what I think is again I gotta revisit this. It's
like when you guys have family outing or dinners, your
parents have to be like beaming with like pride and
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and and just like you know, we did something right,
Like what like what are y'all like, I don't want
to say what are y'all sit around the table conversations like,
but it's like, oh, my brother in law happens to
be Jack and and a j like, you know, we're
gonna go sit outside and have a conversation, like it's
got to be the coolest thing that's you know what,
I'll get this, I'll pick this tab up, Like it's like, okay,
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who's picking the tab up? We're all out eating, Like, uh,
well we'll go Dutch. Nobody ever, you know, it's not
that go to church and I gotta go to the
restroom when the when the collection plate comes out, or
it just seems that's anybody that just sounds amazing. I
mean they're successful. Like you know, when you've done things
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where you're successful, you don't really have to talk about
it in money terms. You talk about it and like,
you know, think that many hostince I look like Lavaria
LaVar's talked about it from like a cool perspective. And
then Jonas and yeah, I'm just saying it is, uh
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you know you want to sit here and and and
blowviate LaVar about how great this is and man beaming
with pride and the first first, all right, let's call
it that is, this is not an opportunity for all
of us. Couldn't we all go to a Stanley Cup
game and take the show there, let's go. It just
feel the same though, like that's your brother, like and
if you it's like you throw then in law in
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there because that's what you're supposed to do because that's
the proper terminology. But let's just be clear here, right,
it's almost like your your wife like or put you
like this extended family becomes like more like family than
your regular family. Like you're probably closer with a J
and Jack than you are with your sisters. Like that's
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how I am. Like, I'm worked, I'm I'm closer to
my brother in law than I probably am to my
real brothers. And and it's kind of weird, so I
don't even call him a brother in law. He's like,
that's my my kid brother, Like that's what he is.
It's just the weirdest thing. But I mean, I just
think that that's cool. Like I think that that's really cool,
like even if it was like in a different genre,
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but the fact that they all play sports and and
they're successful sports guys, because I think the dopest dudes
are sports guys, even if they go into other other
things in life. So anyways, I'm just having I'm in
my mind, I have three daughters I have, I have
two sons. I already have a son that's old enough
where he's probably with the person he's gonna marry. I
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think she's super, super awesome, super dope, and it's like, man,
I gotta do it four more times. Like my youngest
is the youngest, she's six. But it's still like I'm
to the age now where I hear stories like this
and it's it's weird. I'm now thinking about it as
the parents, not even so much as as the brother
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or or you know, whatever it may be in the scenario.
I'm looking at it from a parent's point of view.
So anyway, I mean, let me have my moment. I'm
not trying to Will be there too, just to sprinkle
you know, his little talk. It's just like it just
let's let's break this down. You've got Brady Quinn uh
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first round traffic in the NFL UM you know, all
the credentials in the world, Raby star, dabbles in radio
a little bit. Uh. And then you've got his wife, Alicia,
who was an Olympian okay silver medalist, um, like the
highest level you could possibly be at inner sport, a
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j hawk. His brother in law super Bowl champions Ohio
didn't win a national championship at Ohio State do Okay,
So there's that is back there. It is back there, Hayte.
And I want to hear your family's resumetion. Johnson, his
brother in law is now going to the Stanley Cup. Dude,
share that share the thing well, like, well, I just
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want one Can I get one? Question? Is? Did we
miss anything? Did we did we miss what else? What
other credentials we got here? Oh? Dad is a military
hero all right? Uh? And and he's got one of
the dopest nicknames ever in the history of nicknames ever,
Just Chopper. I know, no last name needed, just Chopper.
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It's unbelievable. The better part about him is he calls
everyone else Chopper, like everyone that's that's yeah, but but
there's there's brilliance to it. Think about it, like if
anyone everyone identifies you as Chopper and everyone's gonna call
you Chopper. The best part about him calling everyone else
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Chopper is he never has to learn anyone by his name.
I'm already there. I call everybody buddy. Everybody. By the way,
hey buddy, LaVar. If you do that, the Jonas that
would trigger him. That's like he doesn't like being called
but no, he takes that. Yes, he takes everybody buddy, Hey,
buddy's buddy. Yeah, although it's more it's it's more comfortable
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and calling me by my first name. That's always uncomfortable.
When somebody says that that you're close with and they
use your first name, it's like, what are we doing? Yeah,
it's just it's weird you have Yeah, is it really, Jeremiah,
it's not. Don't let him steer you down the ditch.
Don't let him go this direction. Here, I listen. We
we're all in awe of the of the zeb kaya. Yeah,
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we're all. We're all in awe of the just the
athletic pedigree that is the queen household, and it's the
only one that's safe because they're not listening, right, So look,
I mean I just told me at one time. He's like, well,
you know, He's like, you can pretty much say whatever
you want about the Amish because they're not listening yet.
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But somebody's going to tell them. Somebody that they're friends
with is going to walk by and tell them, like, man,
I know y'all, don't listen to the radio. But the
radio dudes was making fun of y'all today. Man, let
me tell you something. You want to see an amish
guy freak out. Somebody goes send a pigeon or or
a raven complain. You want to see an amish guy
freak out, turn a light on, hey, loose their minds?
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What the hell is that? And it plugs into a
wall and turns on? The hell we got going on here?
But uh, congratulations Jack Johnson, onto the Stanley Cup, and
now we need to start. I mean, that's the point
of all of this, right now, show us. Would there
be odds already for them versus either the Rangers or Tampa?
I mean, I don't know if there's odds on on
either or But we can't. Let me go ahead and
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just vamp here a little bit talk more? Could we
get lead to lap our executive producers? What do I
ask to look? Leave? Get stressed out? I mean face
of And you weren't up yet for the match? Yeah?
TV ratings, I'm still not up yet. It's over a week.
By the way, I do have the odds for the
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favorite to win the Stanley Cup. Colorado is an overwhelming
favorite minus two. Everybody else the Rangers in the Lightning
are a plus four D and a plus five hundred.
So basically, Jack Johnson is getting fitted for a ring
and the best part is that means people will stop
talking about the other Jack Johnson that that plays at
hippie rock. Now we can focus on the real Jack Johnson.
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Brother in law Brady Quinn is gonna get Johnson boxing
boxer historically. Isn't that like? Yeah, yeah, but have you
now bar? Have you heard who he's talking about? The
singer no Jo? Like, I feel like you gotta play
of a song or two at some point that's it's
campfire hackey sack uh music? Rock? Yeah, not even it's not.
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Is that not as cool as you rock? Or is
it better than ya rock? I mean fire camp fires
are really good. Yeah. I do a camp fire plant
every night. One snaps by the way, campfire, face down,
grass next to it. I wouldn't go into camp fires.
It's more, um, maybe maybe hippie music. I'm telling you
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some people call reggae hippie music, and that's like kind
of It's not that though, Like I would be curious
to hear LaVar, listen to it and then get his
opinion on so we'll play a little Jack Johnson and
get to feedback it is. Be sure to catch live
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six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's turn it over
to Eddie Garcia for some breaking news sports breaking news
from Fox Sports. Yeah, and Dustin Johnson announcing earlier today
that he has resigned from the PGA Tour. Former world
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number one player, two time major winner, making the announcement
prior to competing in the Saudi Back to l I
V Golf event over in England. Uh. That announcement means
that he will no longer be alable to complete in
the Ryder Cup. Uh and also obviously not competing in
any PGA Tour events. He still would be evilgible though,
to compete in the major tournaments because those are not
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run by the PGA Tour. But again, Dustin Johnson, former
number one of the world, two time major winner, is
resigned from the PGA Tour. Jeez. Uh, so he got
what two hundred million dollars from the from the live tour.
I thought I saw one, but maybe it was two.
I don't know. I mean, these guys are getting paid.
Phil Nicholson came out and obviously made the decision to
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return this weekend. Um let me. It's just so I
have a clear understanding of this, because I'm a little
confused and maybe ready you would know this better than me.
But is this is the pushback because it's Saudi money
that is, yeah, the biggest, the biggest, uh, I think
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concern about it. And this all came up in particular
with Phil Michelson, who had had made some comments. Now
there's there's a lot to the Phil Michelson's story, okay uh,
and we can touch on that, but it's it really
has everything to do with the fact that it's backed
by by Saudi money. And there's a thought too that
maybe all that money is not that clean, okay uh.
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And then especially with the way some things are handled there,
uh in Saudi Arabia. So that's that's the thoughts to it.
But I mean, you're talking about guys being offered nine
figure deals. It's astronomical. Greg Norman talked about it, and
he said they offered tiger wood Woods close to a
billion he said, Like he said, high nine figures was
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what Tiger Woods was offered to be a part of this. So,
whether it's Dustin Johnson or Phil Mickelson or whoever else,
it's tough to turn down. You know. Like I've said
this before, like when you're when when money, that's generational
wealth that changes, like for the rest of your lifetime,
the lifetime after you, the lifetime after lifetime after that.
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It's it's hard not to look at that and go,
I need to give this some serious thought and consideration. Um,
even with all the concerns. Now, the Michaelson situation is
a little different because, as we've seen from some of
the reports, he had some serious gambling debt. Now he's
in a much better spot now, admittedly so after therapy
and his family and him working through it. But there
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was a thought too that like, why would he want
to leave the PGA tour and go to this given
how good the tour has been to him, And when
you come to find out how much debt he was in,
it starts to make some sense. Um. But yeah, it's
look at this is a legit competitor right now at
the PGA tour. They're starting to take player after play
after player. The question becomes, you know, how much money
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do they have to bring all these guys in on
these sorts of deals, And then will these players go
over there and enjoy the experience and want to come back,
or or are they going to sit there and be
and say, Hey, this actually isn't a bad idea for
all of us who are in the golf world to maybe,
you know, give the PGA to who are a little
bit more competitionous. So the w w E goes to
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Saudi Arabia a couple of times a year, and they've
gotten a lot of heat, a lot of people have
been unhappy about it, and they put on these quote
super shows, and then you find out how much money
they get paid off doing these shows, and it's like, uh,
hard to turn down a couple of those pay days
in the middle of the year, especially coming off a pandemic.
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I just and I know, I understand all the backstory
that comes with what what you get from Saudi money,
but and I'm just just throwing this out there. Can't
you kind of make the same argument towards some of
the NBA's dealings with China like and some of the
stuff going you'd say Nike, I mean, look at the
majority of what's produced at Nike comes from China. Look
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at the work conditions, look at the child labor, look
at some of the other things that people bring up
all the time. So yeah, there's there's no doubt. Like
we we tend to pick and choose, okay, when we
want to be like hypocritical about something, right, and then
this is one instance where, um, you know, for whatever reason,
we're gonna condemn golfers who want to leave to go
to Saudi Arabia or playing the Saudi League or that
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live you know, golf league, but we're not gonna when
it comes to other things. So it is kind of interesting.
I mean, working conditions are questionable, and a lot of
situations here here in America, I mean, like and then
in the end, I mean, if if you want to
start talking about I mean, Nike prices are are good
businesses is good in terms of right. So yeah, uh, listen, man,
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you gotta live your life to to if you if
you feel good about what you're doing and moral your
compasses and perceivably in the right direction for you and
what you've got going on one thing I'll never do
is make a decision based off of what the majority
of people or the public opinion of people is going
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to be. I'm not gonna make my decision based off
of that. So that's what you wanted to do, you know,
you do you Now, if it comes back that's something
ain't right, then you gotta deal with the you know,
whatever that is that that comes back. But I mean,
anybody to condemn somebody from making a professional decision that
that's a professional decision. Like we're talking about family earlier.
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You know how difficult it is to to be able
to find a job, sustain a job, to to make
a living, to make a living that like gas prices.
There's a place right now and where gas prices are
like right under ten dollars, you know, and you're talking
about just the beer necessity of just being able to
get to your job, you know. And and then if
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those those gas prices are what they are, you know
you're talking about if you're using mass transit, uh, you're
gonna have to pay a higher higher toll, higher costs
on on all those things because everything is going up.
So and look here, man, somebody has an opportunity to
to put that type of scratch into their bank account,
and and they're you know, they're okay with themselves. I
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mean they say, we're not talking about you know, street
street dealing. We're not. We're not. We're not talking about
you're you're going unless that comes out like no, I
don't know, I don't foresee that being an issue. So
if that's not an issue, man, people need to you know,
mind their business on something like So, I'm seeing that
Dustin Johnson and his career has earned what seventy four million,
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little over seventy four million in his PGA career. I mean,
you know, they come to you with, you know whatever
it is, hundred twenty five to two hundred million dollars.
I mean, he's making so much more than he's ever
made in his entire career as a p G a
tour golfer. I just I'm not gonna sit I'm not
and then it's not to scoff it's seventy four million dollars.
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But I think if to Brady's point, if we want
to sit here and have some of these guys like
Rory McElroy has made some comments, you know, I just
personally would never do it. It's like, that's fine, that's fine,
because it's personal. Personally, he would never do that's fine,
and and that's all good. But the one thing I
would do if I were one of these golfers on
the tour, I would just you know, kind of keep
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my mouth shut and see how this thing plays out,
because who knows, maybe they roll out some sort of
a model that's better than what's currently Who knows that
that's a negotiation tactic. Personally, I wouldn't do it. That
doesn't mean personally I won't change my mind. I won't
change my mind at any point. It's a great point,
and it's a great point, and it's it's one of
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the reasons why Greg Norman, who I believe is what
the CEO of this lived tour, and he's got a
lot of flak for it. But he he called Jack
Nicholas a hypocrite recently because he said, you know, hey,
Jack set their presentation, he sat through some through some
of the meetings. You know, a lot of things in
the world of golf have to go through Jack Nicholas,
you know, given his career, given his his stature within
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you know, just the golf community, and Greg normanal least
claims that like Jack Nicholas gave the blessing on it,
you know, and and and now he's kind of come
back and made some comments. And that's why Greg Norman's
been a little more outspoken saying, well, he's a hypocrite
thing because I'm sad with him. I wist him to say, Okay, yeah,
like go do this. You know, you've got my blessing
to be a part of it. I'm not gonna be
a part of it, but you know, I'll sit through
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and listen to to the pitch and what you guys
are trying to accomplish. And so there's a I mean,
there's a lot going on right now in the Gulf forards.
It's actually pretty fascinating. It's just you know, at the
end of the day, how many people really care. It's
also it kind of reminds me a little bit when
we talked about the Nick Saban Jimbo Fisher stuff, where
it's like, I mean, if we really want to call
each other out on hypocrisy, we could do this all day.
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And they took it to a whole another level the
other day, didn't he what did he say, I mean
that I think a hall to what they need. Look,
I've said it once, I'll say it again. In that regard,
there's gonna be a revenue share with the TV networks.
That's how these players are gonna get paid. They're they're
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going to be funded the majority of what they all
get paid for on every every roster in a conference
or at a school. It's gonna come from the TV revenue.
And that's how that they're gonna get to those numbers.
It's and I l will be a part of it.
It's gonna be the TV money that that that ends
up getting shared with the players that eventually gets them there.
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or whatever you get your podcast. You think Aaron Donald
ever kicked a hockey sack around? Because if because if
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he did uh something? Because Aaron Donald got paid we
throughout the thirty million dollar markus kind of you know,
maybe this is what it's going to take to get
it done. And now he becomes the highest paid non
quarterback in NFL history thirty plus million dollars. Now, I
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don't know, I don't look. I'm not great at the
salary cap because the numbers just I don't know what
I'm looking at because I can't relate to it. How
how are the Rams able to figure out a way
to just continue to pay these guys what they're paying
them and still get under the cap and then go
into next year with a completely different look as opposed
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to what the alternative would have been with Aaron Donald
possibly retiring and them trying to aground how they feel
that void which is almost impossible. How are the Rams
able to pull this off? Signing bonuses baby? And then
now what you see teams do is they actually so,
So this was looked at and it wasn't really an extension.
It was just with the remaining three years he had
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on his deal, they just restructured it to pay them more.
And how do they pay them more? They paid them
more via a signing bonus. And then what they did
is they attached on And a lot of teams are
doing this. It's it's almost a loophole that if I
was a small market team that didn't have a lot
of cash, right like the Since Nati Bengals family owned
team doesn't have a lot of cash, Pittsburgh Steelers family
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owned team, they don't like giving a lot of signing
bonuses in cash, I would I would look at trying
to close this loophole because what teams do is they
essentially put on avoidable years on the back end of
these contracts. So even though Aaron Donald had three years
left on his deal and any basic he said, look,
I'm you know, unless you're gonna pay me more, I'm
not gonna come back. I'm just gonna retire. I've done
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everything I need to do at this point in my career.
And they one hadn't paid him, so he's back, but
they took the last three years of his deal and
they restructured the money. So he's gonna receive I think,
you know, close to ninety five million in that three
year time. You know, over sixty of it in the
next two years. So his average annual value that A
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A V C. That's gonna be the highest ever we've
seen for anyone besides a quarterback. H And I'll get
back to that in a second. But what they do
is they then take on the back end of those
three years and they put on two Dumby years and
it's really just a spread that signing bonus over really
a five year period instead of a three year period.
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But those two extra years I mentioned, they're not worth
You've never seen him. You'll never see him now. You know,
they will count against the RAMS cap in the future years.
So in six if he's not there, they will count again.
Did then, but you know, for the for the short term,
it helps them be able to spread that out over
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that period of time to make them, you know, stay
under the cap. So you can do all these things
for Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, for a number
of your stars, but eventually it does get you. But
if if you're if you're standing Crock, he you're flush
with cash, which he is, you can do this. You
can sit there and say, I'm just gonna keep paying
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guys huge signing bonuses, will spread it out over over
the course of the contract, and we'll kick the can
down the road. But you also have to hit on
some of your draft picks, which they've done as well, right,
so all that's part of it. I mean, look, the
next guy ups Cooper Cup, they're gonna have to sign
him and figure out what he's gonna do. So, um,
that's that's how it's done though. But Okay, if I
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was to throw out to you Aaron Donald's value to you, guys,
like who would you pay more? Aaron Donald or Jared
Goff Donald, Yeah, golf makes more of them still, even
after this restructure that this deal, Golf still makes more,
and I would I wouldn't argue with that, Like, I
think Aaron Donald is that impactful of a player, He's
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that good of a player. He should probably be making
more than even some starting quarterbacks out there. I mean,
it's like putting a bear on the football field. I
was I was watching film on him after the deal
came out, Like it's I watched film on him a
lot anyway, because a lot of the stuff that he does,
I try to teach it to the kids that that
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I teach and train. But I was watching his film
then I was like, you know, to see the things
that he does, like how quick his feet are, how
quick his hands are, more importantly, most importantly, how quick
his mind works. It's it's amazing to look at the
the intricate details of what it is that he does.
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Where he allows people to add times put their hands
on him before he does what he's gonna do. Sometimes
he doesn't allow you to put your hands on him
at all. Sometimes he allows for the back the back
end of the double team, like the second guy who's
who's hitting him versus the first guy that he's taking on.
Um just how he approaches and and handles double teams,
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how how he approaches and and handles triple teams, And
then you start to think, like, Okay, you're looking at
his technique. His technique is so sound, but his ability
to put together there's like there's like a snapshot, a
series of snapshots, and being able to be successful at
pass rushing the feeding blockers, being able to get to
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a quarterback, being able to get to a running back.
There's like a series of snapshots. One it's like my
first steps, Like how many steps do I take before
I start to, you know, make contact with with a blocker?
You know? Is it one? Is it two? Is it three? Steps?
What am I to do with my hands? What is
he going to do with his hands? What am I
going to do with my hands? Once he puts his
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hands out or counters, what how am I going to counter?
But then you start to realize that his strength is.
That's where the whole bear part comes in. Like you
could see a bear walking down the street, and that
bear looks dossile, it looks peaceful, doesn't want any drama.
But if you saw that bear and it had a
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cup with it, and you got near it, then you
would realize how strong that bear is. When your head
is rolling down the street and that's Aaron Donald, Like,
it's like he puts all of those things together. You
look at him, you would not think that he is
as strong and as explosive all the as is that
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he is. It's just it's it's it's mind blowing to me.
It's funny. I was talking to my my college teammate
coached him in high school, and I was talking to
him like, uh, it's like a little while back and
and the idea of of what Aaron Donald was even
back then and pen Hill's at pen Hills High. Um,
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he just he's always been a different a different person
on the field. His his approach to it, his his
his abilities. You can't you can teach the techniques, but
you can't teach what he has. And that's that's it's
interesting because you don't find very many guys, even at
the most elite of of of levels, that had that
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something different about them, whether whatever position it maybe. But
Aaron Donald, man, it's just it's it blows you away
when you watch him and he's able to put all
of those things together and it works. That's the day
it works. Like it's not it's not a given that
your your your fundamentally sound, you have athletic ability, you
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have strength, you have all the things I just named,
but it doesn't work like his stuff works a lot
like the majority of the time that it's a it's
a mind boggling thing. He's got the ninety eight career
sacks right now, if he just has let's say an
average year, which would be ten sacks, that's gonna put
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him in the top twenty five all time in the
nflayed many years, eight years after nine years, that's alright,
which hold on for a second, but that doesn't include playoffs,
Like like, that's one of the things I hate about
stats in the NFL is I'd be curious to see
if you could look up quick how many sacks he
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has in the playoffs. Put six in the in the playoffs,
So he's already over a hundred years. Think about this though,
the top the top guy is Bruce Smith, by the way,
as as would you say an undersized d tackle Aaron Sacks?
And well not not the fact that he's under size.
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You're not going to see defensive tackles get many sacks.
He's better than SAP, right, It's it's apples and oranges.
But if you're saying who is better, as like, a
player like Aaron Donald is better than probably everyone except
Reggie White. Reggie are there only two of the defensive
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players you could put into with with what he's done
the first eight years, seven time All Pro, first Team
All Pro, three time defensive Player of the Year, eight
time Pro bowler, like eight time Pro bowler always he
just walked in the NFL is like Pro Bowls fell
out of his pants, and he's he's already accumulated the
stats that how many games has he missed? He saw
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fourteen earlier in his career, um, and he's missed a
couple of games here there, But his numbers already A
sad played thirteen years and had fewer sacks than Aaron
Donald so far are I mean, all I know is
how long did Bruce Smith play for like seventeen eighteen
years or something like that? Twelve team if if you
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take the math, Bruce Smith getting as a defensive and
who pretty much rushed every single play and he got
to two hundred sacks. If if if if Aaron Donald
Donald or to stay on pace with where he's at
right now and played sixteen years perceivably, and I don't
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know that he could play at that level for for
that long where he's at on the field, nineteen years
for Bruce, I mean, imagine if if Aaron Donald goes
another eight years, which would be sixteen years. I mean,
he's right at He's he's what he's right at two
hundred sacks. The crazy thing is, I don't think he's
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going to Yeah, I don't know that I did. I
don't think he was. I don't know they's gonna play
past this next you know, two three years span. I
mean that, that's what I think the window is. He
could if he wanted to. I just don't know if
he has the desire to. The idea of it is, though,
is that I was on the field when Bruce got
that two hundred, like I helped him get it. That's
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that's my claim to fame, like one of them. Um,
what do you mean, would you do well? I I
hit Walter Jones to high low, No, No, I picked him.
I hit him from the outside. Bruce came off me
on the stunt and and looped around and and got
got the sack to break the record. Um. But here's
the thing, right, The thing about it is is that
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that's a that's a record that if you're if you're
thinking and practicalities, no one will ever come close to
getting it. Marcelli's wildly said it best. He's all. Instead
of looking at that record like well, two hundred career sacks,
he had twenty sacks and ten seasons. He goes, no, no, no,
imagine he had ten sacks for twenty straight years. He's all.
Just think about that production level from Bruce Smith. There
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you go, there you go. It's it's it's it's it's
not really realistic to think that anyone will ever break
that record, you know. So to think that there's somebody
out there that not only would have the capabilities of
doing it if they decided to play long enough to
do it, but the position in which he's doing it from,
that's even more impressive. That's even more going to say that.
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That's why it's it's it's hard to think that he's
going to for that reason. Yeah, even if he played
that long, it's hard to think he's going to for
that reason. His body has got to be sore, man,
Like you get lean. There was a time where I
in college and probably my second and third year in
the pros, where literally more often than not, I got
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double team and sometimes triple team. I would get the tackle,
I would get the guard, and sometimes I would get
a back all in one play. That are hitting on you,
and I don't tell you right now, your body it
starts to take a toll on your body now, a
mosh pit of NFL players trying to stop you every
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single time, like a legitimate mosh pit. Yeah, it's not that,
Jack Shohnson. There's no mosh pits there. Yeah,
It is the best of two pros and a couple
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on Fox Sports Radio. How are we feeling here on
a Tuesday? Ye were feeling? Yeah? Awesome? Yeah, the ranch
with the sweep, Yeah, the brooms out the sweep. Yeah.
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Now we gotta make lightning, have to do it. We
gotta make plans. Well, who does it another side now? Yeah?
Jack jonasan the brother in law Brady Quinn to go
see the Avalanche playing Florida and Tampa. Yeah, I mean
it would be nice because I can drive across to
see that and then I can fly out to Denver
to see that. But either way, baby, I'm going to
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a Cup game. Yeah, it's gonna be so fun. That's
pretty cool to have cool family like that, man, you know,
and that are doing a whole lot in life. You know.
The cool thing about it is it's it's it's sports,
but it's it's still so different, like the feeling towards
hockey and just how often they play, but it's still
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a physical sport and so you can relate to a
lot of those things. But um, even just the way
the playoffs are how long and drawn out the the
you know, the Stanley Cup playoffs are it's a it's
a long process. And you know, for for Jack Johnson, um,
you know, my brother in law, and knowing his story,
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he's been at this for so long. I mean he
played as one thousand regular season game this year and
and now finally have the chance to play for one
and win one. Like it's just it's an incredible moment
for him. And and thinking about he made the team
via a tryout, I mean, it's one of the it's
one of the all time like awesome stories in my
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mind in hockey for everything that I think that's happened
in his life, but also just now this opportunity to
to be at the pinnacle of that sport. You know
what I think is again I gotta revisit this. It's
like when you guys have family outing or dinners, your
parents have to be like beaming with like pride and
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and and just like you know, we did something right,
Like what like what are y'all like, I don't want
to say what are y'all sit around the table conversations like,
but it's like, oh, my brother in law happens to
be Jack and and a j like, you know, we're
gonna go sit outside and have a conversation, like it's
got to be the coolest thing that's you know what,
I'll get this, I'll pick this tab up, Like it's like, okay,
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who's picking the tab up? We're all out eating, Like, uh,
well we'll go Dutch. Nobody ever, you know, it's not
that go to church and I gotta go to the
restroom when the when the collection plate comes out, or
it just seems that's anybody that just sounds amazing. I
mean they're successful. Like you know, when you've done things
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where you're successful, you don't really have to talk about
it in money terms. You talk about it and like,
you know, think that many hostince I look like Lavaria
LaVar's talked about it from like a cool perspective. And
then Jonas and yeah, I'm just saying it is, uh
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you know you want to sit here and and and
blowviate LaVar about how great this is and man beaming
with pride and the first first, all right, let's call
it that is, this is not an opportunity for all
of us. Couldn't we all go to a Stanley Cup
game and take the show there, let's go. It just
feel the same though, like that's your brother, like and
if you it's like you throw then in law in
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there because that's what you're supposed to do because that's
the proper terminology. But let's just be clear here, right,
it's almost like your your wife like or put you
like this extended family becomes like more like family than
your regular family. Like you're probably closer with a J
and Jack than you are with your sisters. Like that's
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how I am. Like, I'm worked, I'm I'm closer to
my brother in law than I probably am to my
real brothers. And and it's kind of weird, so I
don't even call him a brother in law. He's like,
that's my my kid brother, Like that's what he is.
It's just the weirdest thing. But I mean, I just
think that that's cool. Like I think that that's really cool,
like even if it was like in a different genre,
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but the fact that they all play sports and and
they're successful sports guys, because I think the dopest dudes
are sports guys, even if they go into other other
things in life. So anyways, I'm just having I'm in
my mind, I have three daughters I have, I have
two sons. I already have a son that's old enough
where he's probably with the person he's gonna marry. I
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think she's super, super awesome, super dope, and it's like, man,
I gotta do it four more times. Like my youngest
is the youngest, she's six. But it's still like I'm
to the age now where I hear stories like this
and it's it's weird. I'm now thinking about it as
the parents, not even so much as as the brother
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or or you know, whatever it may be in the scenario.
I'm looking at it from a parent's point of view.
So anyway, I mean, let me have my moment. I'm
not trying to Will be there too, just to sprinkle
you know, his little talk. It's just like it just
let's let's break this down. You've got Brady Quinn uh
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first round traffic in the NFL UM you know, all
the credentials in the world, Raby star, dabbles in radio
a little bit. Uh. And then you've got his wife, Alicia,
who was an Olympian okay silver medalist, um, like the
highest level you could possibly be at inner sport, a
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j hawk. His brother in law super Bowl champions Ohio
didn't win a national championship at Ohio State do Okay,
So there's that is back there. It is back there, Hayte.
And I want to hear your family's resumetion. Johnson, his
brother in law is now going to the Stanley Cup. Dude,
share that share the thing well, like, well, I just
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want one Can I get one? Question? Is? Did we
miss anything? Did we did we miss what else? What
other credentials we got here? Oh? Dad is a military
hero all right? Uh? And and he's got one of
the dopest nicknames ever in the history of nicknames ever,
Just Chopper. I know, no last name needed, just Chopper.
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It's unbelievable. The better part about him is he calls
everyone else Chopper, like everyone that's that's yeah, but but
there's there's brilliance to it. Think about it, like if
anyone everyone identifies you as Chopper and everyone's gonna call
you Chopper. The best part about him calling everyone else
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Chopper is he never has to learn anyone by his name.
I'm already there. I call everybody buddy. Everybody. By the way,
hey buddy, LaVar. If you do that, the Jonas that
would trigger him. That's like he doesn't like being called
but no, he takes that. Yes, he takes everybody buddy, Hey,
buddy's buddy. Yeah, although it's more it's it's more comfortable
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and calling me by my first name. That's always uncomfortable.
When somebody says that that you're close with and they
use your first name, it's like, what are we doing? Yeah,
it's just it's weird you have Yeah, is it really, Jeremiah,
it's not. Don't let him steer you down the ditch.
Don't let him go this direction. Here, I listen. We
we're all in awe of the of the zeb kaya. Yeah,
(07:38):
we're all. We're all in awe of the just the
athletic pedigree that is the queen household, and it's the
only one that's safe because they're not listening, right, So look,
I mean I just told me at one time. He's like, well,
you know, He's like, you can pretty much say whatever
you want about the Amish because they're not listening yet.
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But somebody's going to tell them. Somebody that they're friends
with is going to walk by and tell them, like, man,
I know y'all, don't listen to the radio. But the
radio dudes was making fun of y'all today. Man, let
me tell you something. You want to see an amish
guy freak out. Somebody goes send a pigeon or or
a raven complain. You want to see an amish guy
freak out, turn a light on, hey, loose their minds?
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What the hell is that? And it plugs into a
wall and turns on? The hell we got going on here?
But uh, congratulations Jack Johnson, onto the Stanley Cup, and
now we need to start. I mean, that's the point
of all of this, right now, show us. Would there
be odds already for them versus either the Rangers or Tampa?
I mean, I don't know if there's odds on on
either or But we can't. Let me go ahead and
(08:46):
just vamp here a little bit talk more? Could we
get lead to lap our executive producers? What do I
ask to look? Leave? Get stressed out? I mean face
of And you weren't up yet for the match? Yeah?
TV ratings, I'm still not up yet. It's over a week.
By the way, I do have the odds for the
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favorite to win the Stanley Cup. Colorado is an overwhelming
favorite minus two. Everybody else the Rangers in the Lightning
are a plus four D and a plus five hundred.
So basically, Jack Johnson is getting fitted for a ring
and the best part is that means people will stop
talking about the other Jack Johnson that that plays at
hippie rock. Now we can focus on the real Jack Johnson.
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Brother in law Brady Quinn is gonna get Johnson boxing
boxer historically. Isn't that like? Yeah, yeah, but have you
now bar? Have you heard who he's talking about? The
singer no Jo? Like, I feel like you gotta play
of a song or two at some point that's it's
campfire hackey sack uh music? Rock? Yeah, not even it's not.
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Is that not as cool as you rock? Or is
it better than ya rock? I mean fire camp fires
are really good. Yeah. I do a camp fire plant
every night. One snaps by the way, campfire, face down,
grass next to it. I wouldn't go into camp fires.
It's more, um, maybe maybe hippie music. I'm telling you
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some people call reggae hippie music, and that's like kind
of It's not that though, Like I would be curious
to hear LaVar, listen to it and then get his
opinion on so we'll play a little Jack Johnson and
get to feedback it is. Be sure to catch live
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Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at
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six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's turn it over
to Eddie Garcia for some breaking news sports breaking news
from Fox Sports. Yeah, and Dustin Johnson announcing earlier today
that he has resigned from the PGA Tour. Former world
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number one player, two time major winner, making the announcement
prior to competing in the Saudi Back to l I
V Golf event over in England. Uh. That announcement means
that he will no longer be alable to complete in
the Ryder Cup. Uh and also obviously not competing in
any PGA Tour events. He still would be evilgible though,
to compete in the major tournaments because those are not
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run by the PGA Tour. But again, Dustin Johnson, former
number one of the world, two time major winner, is
resigned from the PGA Tour. Jeez. Uh, so he got
what two hundred million dollars from the from the live tour.
I thought I saw one, but maybe it was two.
I don't know. I mean, these guys are getting paid.
Phil Nicholson came out and obviously made the decision to
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return this weekend. Um let me. It's just so I
have a clear understanding of this, because I'm a little
confused and maybe ready you would know this better than me.
But is this is the pushback because it's Saudi money
that is, yeah, the biggest, the biggest, uh, I think
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concern about it. And this all came up in particular
with Phil Michelson, who had had made some comments. Now
there's there's a lot to the Phil Michelson's story, okay uh,
and we can touch on that, but it's it really
has everything to do with the fact that it's backed
by by Saudi money. And there's a thought too that
maybe all that money is not that clean, okay uh.
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And then especially with the way some things are handled there,
uh in Saudi Arabia. So that's that's the thoughts to it.
But I mean, you're talking about guys being offered nine
figure deals. It's astronomical. Greg Norman talked about it, and
he said they offered tiger wood Woods close to a
billion he said, Like he said, high nine figures was
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what Tiger Woods was offered to be a part of this. So,
whether it's Dustin Johnson or Phil Mickelson or whoever else,
it's tough to turn down. You know. Like I've said
this before, like when you're when when money, that's generational
wealth that changes, like for the rest of your lifetime,
the lifetime after you, the lifetime after lifetime after that.
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It's it's hard not to look at that and go,
I need to give this some serious thought and consideration. Um,
even with all the concerns. Now, the Michaelson situation is
a little different because, as we've seen from some of
the reports, he had some serious gambling debt. Now he's
in a much better spot now, admittedly so after therapy
and his family and him working through it. But there
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was a thought too that like, why would he want
to leave the PGA tour and go to this given
how good the tour has been to him, And when
you come to find out how much debt he was in,
it starts to make some sense. Um. But yeah, it's
look at this is a legit competitor right now at
the PGA tour. They're starting to take player after play
after player. The question becomes, you know, how much money
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do they have to bring all these guys in on
these sorts of deals, And then will these players go
over there and enjoy the experience and want to come back,
or or are they going to sit there and be
and say, Hey, this actually isn't a bad idea for
all of us who are in the golf world to maybe,
you know, give the PGA to who are a little
bit more competitionous. So the w w E goes to
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Saudi Arabia a couple of times a year, and they've
gotten a lot of heat, a lot of people have
been unhappy about it, and they put on these quote
super shows, and then you find out how much money
they get paid off doing these shows, and it's like, uh,
hard to turn down a couple of those pay days
in the middle of the year, especially coming off a pandemic.
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I just and I know, I understand all the backstory
that comes with what what you get from Saudi money,
but and I'm just just throwing this out there. Can't
you kind of make the same argument towards some of
the NBA's dealings with China like and some of the
stuff going you'd say Nike, I mean, look at the
majority of what's produced at Nike comes from China. Look
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at the work conditions, look at the child labor, look
at some of the other things that people bring up
all the time. So yeah, there's there's no doubt. Like
we we tend to pick and choose, okay, when we
want to be like hypocritical about something, right, and then
this is one instance where, um, you know, for whatever reason,
we're gonna condemn golfers who want to leave to go
to Saudi Arabia or playing the Saudi League or that
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live you know, golf league, but we're not gonna when
it comes to other things. So it is kind of interesting.
I mean, working conditions are questionable, and a lot of
situations here here in America, I mean, like and then
in the end, I mean, if if you want to
start talking about I mean, Nike prices are are good
businesses is good in terms of right. So yeah, uh, listen, man,
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you gotta live your life to to if you if
you feel good about what you're doing and moral your
compasses and perceivably in the right direction for you and
what you've got going on one thing I'll never do
is make a decision based off of what the majority
of people or the public opinion of people is going
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to be. I'm not gonna make my decision based off
of that. So that's what you wanted to do, you know,
you do you Now, if it comes back that's something
ain't right, then you gotta deal with the you know,
whatever that is that that comes back. But I mean,
anybody to condemn somebody from making a professional decision that
that's a professional decision. Like we're talking about family earlier.
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You know how difficult it is to to be able
to find a job, sustain a job, to to make
a living, to make a living that like gas prices.
There's a place right now and where gas prices are
like right under ten dollars, you know, and you're talking
about just the beer necessity of just being able to
get to your job, you know. And and then if
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those those gas prices are what they are, you know
you're talking about if you're using mass transit, uh, you're
gonna have to pay a higher higher toll, higher costs
on on all those things because everything is going up.
So and look here, man, somebody has an opportunity to
to put that type of scratch into their bank account,
and and they're you know, they're okay with themselves. I
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mean they say, we're not talking about you know, street
street dealing. We're not. We're not. We're not talking about
you're you're going unless that comes out like no, I
don't know, I don't foresee that being an issue. So
if that's not an issue, man, people need to you know,
mind their business on something like So, I'm seeing that
Dustin Johnson and his career has earned what seventy four million,
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little over seventy four million in his PGA career. I mean,
you know, they come to you with, you know whatever
it is, hundred twenty five to two hundred million dollars.
I mean, he's making so much more than he's ever
made in his entire career as a p G a
tour golfer. I just I'm not gonna sit I'm not
and then it's not to scoff it's seventy four million dollars.
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But I think if to Brady's point, if we want
to sit here and have some of these guys like
Rory McElroy has made some comments, you know, I just
personally would never do it. It's like, that's fine, that's fine,
because it's personal. Personally, he would never do that's fine,
and and that's all good. But the one thing I
would do if I were one of these golfers on
the tour, I would just you know, kind of keep
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my mouth shut and see how this thing plays out,
because who knows, maybe they roll out some sort of
a model that's better than what's currently Who knows that
that's a negotiation tactic. Personally, I wouldn't do it. That
doesn't mean personally I won't change my mind. I won't
change my mind at any point. It's a great point,
and it's a great point, and it's it's one of
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the reasons why Greg Norman, who I believe is what
the CEO of this lived tour, and he's got a
lot of flak for it. But he he called Jack
Nicholas a hypocrite recently because he said, you know, hey,
Jack set their presentation, he sat through some through some
of the meetings. You know, a lot of things in
the world of golf have to go through Jack Nicholas,
you know, given his career, given his his stature within
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you know, just the golf community, and Greg normanal least
claims that like Jack Nicholas gave the blessing on it,
you know, and and and now he's kind of come
back and made some comments. And that's why Greg Norman's
been a little more outspoken saying, well, he's a hypocrite
thing because I'm sad with him. I wist him to say, Okay, yeah,
like go do this. You know, you've got my blessing
to be a part of it. I'm not gonna be
a part of it, but you know, I'll sit through
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and listen to to the pitch and what you guys
are trying to accomplish. And so there's a I mean,
there's a lot going on right now in the Gulf forards.
It's actually pretty fascinating. It's just you know, at the
end of the day, how many people really care. It's
also it kind of reminds me a little bit when
we talked about the Nick Saban Jimbo Fisher stuff, where
it's like, I mean, if we really want to call
each other out on hypocrisy, we could do this all day.
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And they took it to a whole another level the
other day, didn't he what did he say, I mean
that I think a hall to what they need. Look,
I've said it once, I'll say it again. In that regard,
there's gonna be a revenue share with the TV networks.
That's how these players are gonna get paid. They're they're
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going to be funded the majority of what they all
get paid for on every every roster in a conference
or at a school. It's gonna come from the TV revenue.
And that's how that they're gonna get to those numbers.
It's and I l will be a part of it.
It's gonna be the TV money that that that ends
up getting shared with the players that eventually gets them there.
That's where this whole thing is going. Be sure to
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or whatever you get your podcast. You think Aaron Donald
ever kicked a hockey sack around? Because if because if
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he did uh something? Because Aaron Donald got paid we
throughout the thirty million dollar markus kind of you know,
maybe this is what it's going to take to get
it done. And now he becomes the highest paid non
quarterback in NFL history thirty plus million dollars. Now, I
(21:35):
don't know, I don't look. I'm not great at the
salary cap because the numbers just I don't know what
I'm looking at because I can't relate to it. How
how are the Rams able to figure out a way
to just continue to pay these guys what they're paying
them and still get under the cap and then go
into next year with a completely different look as opposed
(21:55):
to what the alternative would have been with Aaron Donald
possibly retiring and them trying to aground how they feel
that void which is almost impossible. How are the Rams
able to pull this off? Signing bonuses baby? And then
now what you see teams do is they actually so,
So this was looked at and it wasn't really an extension.
It was just with the remaining three years he had
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on his deal, they just restructured it to pay them more.
And how do they pay them more? They paid them
more via a signing bonus. And then what they did
is they attached on And a lot of teams are
doing this. It's it's almost a loophole that if I
was a small market team that didn't have a lot
of cash, right like the Since Nati Bengals family owned
team doesn't have a lot of cash, Pittsburgh Steelers family
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owned team, they don't like giving a lot of signing
bonuses in cash, I would I would look at trying
to close this loophole because what teams do is they
essentially put on avoidable years on the back end of
these contracts. So even though Aaron Donald had three years
left on his deal and any basic he said, look,
I'm you know, unless you're gonna pay me more, I'm
not gonna come back. I'm just gonna retire. I've done
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everything I need to do at this point in my career.
And they one hadn't paid him, so he's back, but
they took the last three years of his deal and
they restructured the money. So he's gonna receive I think,
you know, close to ninety five million in that three
year time. You know, over sixty of it in the
next two years. So his average annual value that A
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A V C. That's gonna be the highest ever we've
seen for anyone besides a quarterback. H And I'll get
back to that in a second. But what they do
is they then take on the back end of those
three years and they put on two Dumby years and
it's really just a spread that signing bonus over really
a five year period instead of a three year period.
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But those two extra years I mentioned, they're not worth
You've never seen him. You'll never see him now. You know,
they will count against the RAMS cap in the future years.
So in six if he's not there, they will count again.
Did then, but you know, for the for the short term,
it helps them be able to spread that out over
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that period of time to make them, you know, stay
under the cap. So you can do all these things
for Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, for a number
of your stars, but eventually it does get you. But
if if you're if you're standing Crock, he you're flush
with cash, which he is, you can do this. You
can sit there and say, I'm just gonna keep paying
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guys huge signing bonuses, will spread it out over over
the course of the contract, and we'll kick the can
down the road. But you also have to hit on
some of your draft picks, which they've done as well, right,
so all that's part of it. I mean, look, the
next guy ups Cooper Cup, they're gonna have to sign
him and figure out what he's gonna do. So, um,
that's that's how it's done though. But Okay, if I
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was to throw out to you Aaron Donald's value to you, guys,
like who would you pay more? Aaron Donald or Jared
Goff Donald, Yeah, golf makes more of them still, even
after this restructure that this deal, Golf still makes more,
and I would I wouldn't argue with that, Like, I
think Aaron Donald is that impactful of a player, He's
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that good of a player. He should probably be making
more than even some starting quarterbacks out there. I mean,
it's like putting a bear on the football field. I
was I was watching film on him after the deal
came out, Like it's I watched film on him a
lot anyway, because a lot of the stuff that he does,
I try to teach it to the kids that that
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I teach and train. But I was watching his film
then I was like, you know, to see the things
that he does, like how quick his feet are, how
quick his hands are, more importantly, most importantly, how quick
his mind works. It's it's amazing to look at the
the intricate details of what it is that he does.
(25:57):
Where he allows people to add times put their hands
on him before he does what he's gonna do. Sometimes
he doesn't allow you to put your hands on him
at all. Sometimes he allows for the back the back
end of the double team, like the second guy who's
who's hitting him versus the first guy that he's taking on.
Um just how he approaches and and handles double teams,
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how how he approaches and and handles triple teams, And
then you start to think, like, Okay, you're looking at
his technique. His technique is so sound, but his ability
to put together there's like there's like a snapshot, a
series of snapshots, and being able to be successful at
pass rushing the feeding blockers, being able to get to
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a quarterback, being able to get to a running back.
There's like a series of snapshots. One it's like my
first steps, Like how many steps do I take before
I start to, you know, make contact with with a blocker?
You know? Is it one? Is it two? Is it three? Steps?
What am I to do with my hands? What is
he going to do with his hands? What am I
going to do with my hands? Once he puts his
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hands out or counters, what how am I going to counter?
But then you start to realize that his strength is.
That's where the whole bear part comes in. Like you
could see a bear walking down the street, and that
bear looks dossile, it looks peaceful, doesn't want any drama.
But if you saw that bear and it had a
(27:27):
cup with it, and you got near it, then you
would realize how strong that bear is. When your head
is rolling down the street and that's Aaron Donald, Like,
it's like he puts all of those things together. You
look at him, you would not think that he is
as strong and as explosive all the as is that
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he is. It's just it's it's it's mind blowing to me.
It's funny. I was talking to my my college teammate
coached him in high school, and I was talking to
him like, uh, it's like a little while back and
and the idea of of what Aaron Donald was even
back then and pen Hill's at pen Hills High. Um,
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he just he's always been a different a different person
on the field. His his approach to it, his his
his abilities. You can't you can teach the techniques, but
you can't teach what he has. And that's that's it's
interesting because you don't find very many guys, even at
the most elite of of of levels, that had that
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something different about them, whether whatever position it maybe. But
Aaron Donald, man, it's just it's it blows you away
when you watch him and he's able to put all
of those things together and it works. That's the day
it works. Like it's not it's not a given that
your your your fundamentally sound, you have athletic ability, you
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have strength, you have all the things I just named,
but it doesn't work like his stuff works a lot
like the majority of the time that it's a it's
a mind boggling thing. He's got the ninety eight career
sacks right now, if he just has let's say an
average year, which would be ten sacks, that's gonna put
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him in the top twenty five all time in the
nflayed many years, eight years after nine years, that's alright,
which hold on for a second, but that doesn't include playoffs,
Like like, that's one of the things I hate about
stats in the NFL is I'd be curious to see
if you could look up quick how many sacks he
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has in the playoffs. Put six in the in the playoffs,
So he's already over a hundred years. Think about this though,
the top the top guy is Bruce Smith, by the way,
as as would you say an undersized d tackle Aaron Sacks?
And well not not the fact that he's under size.
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You're not going to see defensive tackles get many sacks.
He's better than SAP, right, It's it's apples and oranges.
But if you're saying who is better, as like, a
player like Aaron Donald is better than probably everyone except
Reggie White. Reggie are there only two of the defensive
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players you could put into with with what he's done
the first eight years, seven time All Pro, first Team
All Pro, three time defensive Player of the Year, eight
time Pro bowler, like eight time Pro bowler always he
just walked in the NFL is like Pro Bowls fell
out of his pants, and he's he's already accumulated the
stats that how many games has he missed? He saw
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fourteen earlier in his career, um, and he's missed a
couple of games here there, But his numbers already A
sad played thirteen years and had fewer sacks than Aaron
Donald so far are I mean, all I know is
how long did Bruce Smith play for like seventeen eighteen
years or something like that? Twelve team if if you
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take the math, Bruce Smith getting as a defensive and
who pretty much rushed every single play and he got
to two hundred sacks. If if if if Aaron Donald
Donald or to stay on pace with where he's at
right now and played sixteen years perceivably, and I don't
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know that he could play at that level for for
that long where he's at on the field, nineteen years
for Bruce, I mean, imagine if if Aaron Donald goes
another eight years, which would be sixteen years. I mean,
he's right at He's he's what he's right at two
hundred sacks. The crazy thing is, I don't think he's
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going to Yeah, I don't know that I did. I
don't think he was. I don't know they's gonna play
past this next you know, two three years span. I
mean that, that's what I think the window is. He
could if he wanted to. I just don't know if
he has the desire to. The idea of it is, though,
is that I was on the field when Bruce got
that two hundred, like I helped him get it. That's
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that's my claim to fame, like one of them. Um,
what do you mean, would you do well? I I
hit Walter Jones to high low, No, No, I picked him.
I hit him from the outside. Bruce came off me
on the stunt and and looped around and and got
got the sack to break the record. Um. But here's
the thing, right, The thing about it is is that
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that's a that's a record that if you're if you're
thinking and practicalities, no one will ever come close to
getting it. Marcelli's wildly said it best. He's all. Instead
of looking at that record like well, two hundred career sacks,
he had twenty sacks and ten seasons. He goes, no, no, no,
imagine he had ten sacks for twenty straight years. He's all.
Just think about that production level from Bruce Smith. There
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you go, there you go. It's it's it's it's it's
not really realistic to think that anyone will ever break
that record, you know. So to think that there's somebody
out there that not only would have the capabilities of
doing it if they decided to play long enough to
do it, but the position in which he's doing it from,
that's even more impressive. That's even more going to say that.
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That's why it's it's it's hard to think that he's
going to for that reason. Yeah, even if he played
that long, it's hard to think he's going to for
that reason. His body has got to be sore, man,
Like you get lean. There was a time where I
in college and probably my second and third year in
the pros, where literally more often than not, I got
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double team and sometimes triple team. I would get the tackle,
I would get the guard, and sometimes I would get
a back all in one play. That are hitting on you,
and I don't tell you right now, your body it
starts to take a toll on your body now, a
mosh pit of NFL players trying to stop you every
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single time, like a legitimate mosh pit. Yeah, it's not that,
Jack Shohnson. There's no mosh pits there. Yeah,
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