June 26, 2024 • 54 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the NBA Draft is here and the Knicks trade for Mikal Bridges. Eagles fans should be proud of how aggressive their team is in the offseason. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis reacts to the Lakers hiring JJ Redick.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday morning,
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know, it's one of those days where you were
reminded last night and I'm reminded again today there's not
much out there for sports, and it's a sad time.
It's a sad time. I was watching I was at
Copa America. I was watching a little bit of that
last night. Kind of surprise Argentina. Couldn't, you know, do
a little more, But you know, that's all we got, man,
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there's not much out there.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean, you could watch the Cubs implode and some more.
I mean, that's that's always fun, Like if I would
have recommend something for you so you can watch them.
And what's great about it is they could do it
on the West coast, they could do it in the Midwest,
the East coast, doesn't matter. Just a just an awful
baseball team. Uh So there's there's that. That's that's held
me hostage for a little while. You're Italians. They are
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onto the round of sixteen. As we mentioned, with that
win a couple of days ago. So there is some
stuff out there, and again the ultimate sports condiment, gambling.
Just throw a little bit of coin on it and
it makes everything that much more watchable. That's that would
be my recommendation for everybody out there. But all of
that does not apply to the major situation that is
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taking place in the world of sports, the NBA Draft.
Come on, baby, action it is. It is kind of wild.
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Wild to think.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Honestly, could you name over three and a half players?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh without looking at my computer?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely not. That's why I was.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was watching. I was trying to educate myself.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So I was like watching some box trafts last night
and I was like, okay, there's so many international players,
especially there's some prediction that make it one two. I
was like, I just it's hard to get into this.
Like basketball obviously has become such a global sport. And unfortunately,
because of whether you're gonna call our aau system, you
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know what everyone appoints our developmental system, We're not getting
guys at younger ages who are coming up and I've
looked at as being the top picks anymore. That's not
the case, it's guys now coming from Europe. As evidence
of that in our league, watching the guys win MVPs
and potentially what may happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's sort of the draft has become a casualty of
the European influence because the European players, to your point,
whether it's Luca or Joker or Wembin Yama, like those
guys are stars and they're great to watch at the
pro level, But for an event like the draft, not
doesn't really help matters much when people don't know who
they are, Like it just doesn't matter. Like the NFL
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draft takes over cities, like it takes over cities for
three days in a row. Green Bay is going to
get it next year. It's going to be a takeover.
They're running out of hotel rooms or like all of that.
The NBA draft just does not have that same effect,
Like there's just not And it used to be when
you would watch players come up through college and you
would see him play for two, three, four years at
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the same place, you were kind of interested to see, hey,
where so and so going to go like like where
is he going to get drafted? Is he a lottery pick?
And then you take it from there. But nowadays, yeah,
to your point, the European influence, it's just not international wise,
it's just not the same like it kind of it's
really sort of taking the starch out of the NBA draft,
which is unfortunate. I mean, you can still gamble on
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it and we'll try and throw some over unders together,
but that's where the the NBA draft stands now. Mckl bridges,
that was a big deal yesterday. Maybe I miss something,
all right, Maybe this is, you know, something that I
was not aware of. But apparently mckel bridges is worth
a lot, and by a lot, I mean a lot
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of picks in exchange, as the Nets have sent mckel
bridges to the New York Knicks with four unprotected first
rounders coming back in return, and I'm trying to figure
out is this all just a move to counteract what
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the Boston Celtics have done. I know they were talking
about a wing presence and what he provides, but that's
a lot to give up in return for mckl bridges,
who is a good player, a nice player, also a
durable player. I don't think he's missed a game his
entire career. I think he's got like a close to
six hundred straight games played. So if you're a fan
of anybody anti load management, he would be your guy.
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But that seems like a lot of picks to give
up for mckl bridges just in hopes that you've got
enough to try and contend with the Boston Celtics next year.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So let's thinking about this last night. I mean, draft
picks aren't viewed all the same in every league. In
the NFL, they're coveted because if you find yourself in
a spot where you need a quarterback, wide receiver edge
wearsher tackle, you feel like you can grab a guy
in that top five, top ten spot or package those
first round picks to maneuver up even higher to get
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that guy right.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
It's not really like that in basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I mean, look through the entire first round outside of
I mean, I guess by year coming out high school,
we would.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Have said Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
How many guys do you look at every single year
in the NBA draft and say that is a franchise
altering pick or selection.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Not a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, we look at the NFL, we say that
almost every other year. Caleb Williams is viewed as a
generational talent, people who are comparing him to Patrick Mahomes,
which which you could probably see that a little bit,
but look what Patrick Mahomes has done, he's got in
the league, and then that's at least how Caleb Williams
is viewed.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean, the Chicago Bears moved off of a first.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Round pick a quarterback that looked like he was progressing
in justin fields once the game is some weapons to say, no,
we're gonna go with the guy's never thrown in the
NFL before, and we feel like we have a better
chance of winning and building up our franchise with that
guy as opposed to the guy who's been here, even
though at some point we felt good enough to take
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him in.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
The first round.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Can I compliment you on something that you mentioned a
while back, your comp for Caleb Williams to Aaron Rodgers,
way to go, way to not be lazy and not
just do well. You know they've got, you know, something
in common, so let's go that direction. The fact that
you went Aaron Rodgers is your comp a little while
back as opposed to the typical Patrick Mahomes. I was
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a big fan of that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, I mean, if we really want to go down
this path, I don't thoughe them that I gave a
comp because I hate comps.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I hate when people do this. We talk about this
every year.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I'm like, why can't we just view them in a
vacuum and say this player is this player?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's like, no, we got to, like picture what it'd
be like. In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's like, all right, now, I'm gonna have to pull
through a rolldex of quarterbacks, some of which might have
played twenty years ago, and people are gonna be like, oh.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, okay, I could see that. Yeah, okay, I feel
better about my team drafting them now. It's just it
doesn't make any sense to me. But you get my point.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like in the NBA, you can package all these these
draft picks up because you know what you have in
Michel Bridges, Like you know how good he is, you
know what he means immediately walking in the door. And
I feel like there's even though there's elements of that
in the NFL with some of the veterans that move around,
it's not viewed quite the same. I mean, we could
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talk about, for example, you know, Brian Burns in that
trade between the Panthers and the Giants, and obviously the
Giants thought it was gonna cost more.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
The Panthers ended up not.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
There's there's times when those picks are really valued and coveted,
and there's times when they're not, and and depending on
the league.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And then had a technical difficulty to be.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Able to bring in a veteran guy who he know
is gonna help us win.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, listen, look, I hope it works out for the Knicks.
You know, the the NBA would love nothing more than
for the Knicks to be a legitimate contender and to
be one of those teams that could challenge Boston in
the Eastern Conference. I think there was probably a little
bit of disappointment when Indiana was the was the team
that came out of that series and ended up going
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to see Boston in the Eastern Conference finals. But I
just I look at it, and I know he's got
a contract that seems, you know, very very manageable. Over
the next couple of years, he was pretty coveted by
a lot of teams in the NBA. And again, he's durable.
He also meets all the qualifications hard nos guy, and
he went to Villanova, so the fact that the Knicks
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are going to land another Villanova prospect. They are rivaling,
you know what is happening with Georgia players and the
Philadelphia Eagles. The Knicks, in their Villanova love affair, is
pretty impressed. I believe he's like the fourth player from
Villanova on that team. So nonetheless, congratulations to the New
York Knicks they get it done. Congratulations to the Nets.
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Who knows what you got a bunch of lotto scratchers
and we'll see what they turn into. And then the
NBA Draft goes on later on tonight and we get
to see some players that nobody's probably ever heard of,
you know, for the for the majority of the people
listening and watching, to try and change the fortunes of
a franchise, it's fun. So there's that. There's that coverage
of the NBA Draft. Now, are you into it enough
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to want to throw down a little bit on some overunders,
because you know the way I operate, Like, if we
do over unders and Lee puts together some picks, I'm
probably gonna go five for five or ten for ten.
I don't know if you want that smoke on a
Wednesday morning, but it's up to you pick a card,
any card.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, for the you know, for the sake of the show,
I'm willing to do that. But I'm not actually gonna
lay any money on this. I don't know anything about
the NBA Draft, so I'm not going to claim to
know either. Like all those WNBA fans out there, we've
got a hot takes.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, there's there's all that. Do you think they could
if they wanted to spice this up? Could they move
it around a little bit the NBA Draft, like throw
it in some different cities as opposed to just you know,
continuing to run it out of New York, Like, uh,
you know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't think there's a big enough audience.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, is there.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Do you feel like you're gonna get the same crowd
you got in Detroit?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Absolutely not in case, So why do you need to
move it around?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, just like try and spice it up a little bit,
you know, like trying to so.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
The player's standpoint, though we've talked about this, there was
something that was nostalgic about going to New York.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I mean for the NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like my family members who went for that trip to
see me get drafted. That will never go back to
New York City, and that was their first and only time,
and it was a cool experience for them. But to
think that, you know, you're gonna move it around and
get the same sort at one of you be copying
the NFL, which I don't think the NBA wants to do.
I mean only from maybe a business standpoint, but that's
about it. But the next thing to that would be
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I just don't think they get the same fanfare. It
almost would look worse because you would be directly comparing
yourself to the NFL and realize that you are in
second fiddle at best, maybe even.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Worse than that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, like standing in
a trough next to Dirk Diggler. Not a fun ride. Now,
I didn't didn't want to have to get that. Well, listen,
you got to make sure everybody's paying attention. Did you
get the text from Lee just showcasing that he does
have proof that he was at the pub yesterday? As
if we needed proof that Lee was at the pub yesterday,
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he did send over photographic evidence. I mean, it doesn't
really look like a pub.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'll be honest with you, I've gotten no text from Lee.
The only thing I got from Lee's yeah good.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I've texted you twice now I've.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Allayd got one.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, he sent over a uh he sent over a picture.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, oh, sorry, different text. That was a group text.
Sorry sorry Lee.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Lee was claiming that I was having technical issues, but
I think I was just on mute.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Maybe I'll agree that I was envisioning I would go
to a different pub. Did not go to the soccer
pub that's famous out here in the valley.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I went to a different pub.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I forgot it was a pub.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yeah, it doesn't even look like a pub technically a pub.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
It's more it's it's a It was Taco Tuesday over
at this spot, so I went over there and stayed.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, good deal.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Hold on, let's just break this photo down, all right,
for those who can't see it. In the bottom left
of this photo, there's a woman sitting with a Stanley
and it looks like a bunch of like papers dividers.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It looks like more of an office space than.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
She is rocking a pretty clean and then above.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Her are two TVs on a wall that looks like
it's it wasn't meant to be placed there, like someone
just decided to put the TVs up and then the
bottom right there's just a random guy with a Harley
Davidson t shirt on. He looks like he's looking down
at something. That's about it. It's a very scantly decorated room.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It looks like the waiting room at a car dealership.
To be honest with you, there's not it. It's too
clean to be a pub.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And that's a fair calm.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And when I think when I think about pubs, I
think low ceilings, kind of like a little bit dark.
This is way too lit up to be a pub.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See he's placed in spots where people can look at them.
Both of these people have their backs to the TV.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They literally could not care less. So there's two live
sporting events going on.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Did you have the worst taste in what you call
quote unquote pubs of anyone we know?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Like I said, it was not where I envisioned watching
a good, uh soccer match.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
But talk Abo Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We went to twenty different spots in Dublin, Ireland like
pubs central, and you chose like the Kia dealership off
some of Pulvi or to watch a soccer game at
Come on, just tires.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah, I agree, you know what I did, bad job
by me. But when you got five dollars marks and
five dollars shots and two dollars tacos and they just
reintroduced past store tacos there, it was the first time there.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Was a good price now.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, especially it was either patron or Don Julio, your choice.
I'm a Don Julio guy myself.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
But I'm sorry for everyone out there. Man, I don't
know how things got this way. Yeah, it's that's ridiculous.
A five dollars shot.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I know.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
That's why you get a flask man. You got to
bring a flask and was ahead of the yea.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean the other issue was like, what if you're
hearing shots different than what you have in the flask?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Okay, Pinky's up, Brady.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Ed, there's so much, just like a smorgasbord. Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You really just you're you're excited to wake up the
next morning filling hungover.
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
One of the things that was mentioned we were talking
about this last hour the trailer for Our Hard Knocks
that came out in which they were discussing the deal
to try and get Brian Burns and Brian Burns and
what it would cost and the Giants were surprised that
it wasn't going to cost as much. There was also
some discussion about Saquon Barkley, where apparently Joe Shane, the
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GM of the Giants, was asking Saquon if they were
going to give him a chance or whatnot. Saquon Barkley
is said after the fact that the Giants didn't really
make him much of an offer and that's why he
ended up signing in Philadelphia. Either way, you know, it
feels like if there was an opportunity to sign Saquon Barkley,
it had been there for a while and ultimately they
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chose to go in a different direction. So, I mean,
we can try and repair that, and you know, point
fingers at who was at fault. They had every opportunity
in the world to try and get a deal done.
They didn't get it done. That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I mean, they had plenty of time, plenty of opportunities.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The reality is is not many organizations value the running
back position the way a team like the San Francisco
forty nine ers does.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I mean, whether it's with.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
The Christian McCaffrey contract or even the way they've gone about,
you know, trying to accumulate running backs to add to
the roster that fit their running style and scheme.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
And they're different in that sense. It works for them.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
But when you're talking about a Giants team that wanted
to load up on defense and when to focus their
time on acquiring Brian Burns, you know, and and a
pass catching weapon even though Saquon is that they're viewing
more things from the perimeter, not necessarily from the backfield.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So Lane Johnson, the offensive tackle of the Philadelphia Eagles,
did talk with NFL insiders about the acquisition of Saquon Barkley.
He was a little bit surprised. I think a lot
of people were that he ended up in the division,
stayed in the nfcas to ended up with Philly. Here
was their ot and once you're.
Speaker 10 (17:36):
Saying you'll never forget just you know, a physically imposing guy.
I think he walks around around two thirty. You know,
he likes the golf, so we've been golfing with Te Tomes.
He's ultra competitive. But yeah, I mean when you see
obviously what he can do at the running back position,
and we can flex him out a receiver and he
can you know, he can go.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
It's it's really unbelievable. I never thought that he would
be playing for us, but you know, here it is.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
I know that he's excited. We're definitely excited up front,
and yeah, man, I think he's boys for a big,
big year.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So when you couple that with the fact that they
go out and they signed Saquon Barkley outside of Jason Kelsey,
they brought everybody back this year. And then there's this
story that came out that even after they went and
signed Michael Vick to the contract extension years ago, that
they were aggressively trying to trade up because they wanted
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to get their hands on Andrew Locke. If you're an
Eagles fan, or if you're just a fan in general,
that's all you can ask for from your organization. They
are never satisfied. They never settle if it means changing coaches,
whatever it takes, and it's why they're near the top
of the league over the past decade plus, with different coaches,
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different quarterbacks. It's just another example of Philadelphia getting aggressive
and doing things that a lot of organizations and a
lot of teams wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Howie Roseman is one of the best at constructing a
roster to make them competitive and allow them to compete
for Super Bowls. I mean, case closed. He is one
of the best in the NFL At doing so. He's
ultimately the one behind the scenes pulling the strings. Now
that being said, he's typically had his issues with coaches.
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It doesn't matter who it's been in recent history. I
mean even Doug Peterson, who's won them a super Bowl,
it didn't matter. You know, he's moved on is now
in Jacksonville. Last year, with how things went with that season,
you know, you got some rumblings that maybe there's some
discontent at times between Nick Sirianni and the front officer
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you know, players, coach staff and all that. It seems
like Halie Roseman is the one person that has been
the constant on a team that has been able to
put together some of the most talented rosters the NFL scene.
I mean, I know that remember the whole Dream Team,
and that was back a little bit. I think maybe
after the whole Michael Vick era there as their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
But so it was read around that time.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, like you think back to that and you go, yeah,
that was over a decade ago and they were putting
together rosters that that's what players were calling it. That's
what people on the outside viewed it as. I mean,
just ridiculously talented teams. Now that doesn't always mean you
equate to wins. It takes a combination of things in
chemistry and good scheme and coaching. But I mean they're
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at least set up to have a shot. I mean
every off season, Eagles fans should be extremely excited about
what their roster looks like going into season. I mean,
even if they face some injury issues, they still have
depth there too, enough to be able to compete. So
he's done an unbelievable job, and it compares to other
franchise you could see why they're always in the hunt,
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always in the always in contention.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
It's why I'm optimistic about the team this year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And if you look at the changes they made this offseason,
it wasn't even focused on really much of the roster
reconstruction I should say reconstruction construction of the roster.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It was more about the coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I mean, hiring two new coordinators was essentially saying, look,
we feel like we've got the guys on the roster.
It was just the guys maybe calling the defense, calling
the offense.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
That weren't the right fit for us.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
And we feel much better with Kellen Moore, we felt
much better with Vic Fangio. So I just I mean,
they're to me a Super Bowl contending team from the NFC.
I think Jaylor Hurts is going to have a bounce
back year. Hopefully's one hundred percent healthy, because remember, at
times last year it seemed like he was really fighting
through a ton. But the way they do business, the
way they construct the roster is as good as anyone
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It is kind of interesting how just because of last
year and the way it ended that it's sort of
under the radar as a potential super Bowl team because,
like I mean, if you just looked at I mean,
the Lions have shorter odds to go to the super
Bowl than the Eagles do. And I look at him
and I go, all right, well, who else really improved
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that dramatically in the NFL? If you just went in
division wise, who else really improved dramatically in the NFC East.
The Cowboys sure as hell didn't. Washington, you can argue that,
but they've got a rookie quarterback, and who the hell
knows of the Giants. The Giants lost maybe their best
player to Philadelphia in Saquon Barkley. So I look at
it and I go, whatever the issue was, and the
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meltdown and the coaches and all of that stuff. There
was talks at AJ Brown wasn't happy. Well they extended him.
As we pointed out, like I look at it and
I go, I don't know that it's even close as
to who's had the best offseason in that division. And
yet when you talk about, you know, the Super Bowl
contenders coming out of the out of the NFC, like
I think a lot of people look at the Niners
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and go, well, you know, that's a real possibility. The
Lions take the next step, and you got Philadelphia sitting
there at seventeen to one to win a super Bowl.
You got Philadelphia sitting there in the NFC right now.
If you were to go on DraftKings at seven to one,
that's a live dog. They shouldn't have the same odds
as Dallas to come out of the NFC based on
this offseason. Philly, Philly's got a change. It's here and
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they don't have the Super Bowl hangover like they did
last year.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Why don't you just tell people to bet on them
then instead of like saying, oh they got a.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Chance, or oh the live dog or the same mod's death,
just tell people to bet on them, because I don't
know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
The problem is you're worried about giving that advice because
you're awful of gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, well, we don't need to call names here, and
we don't need to pass judgment on the air. That's
not what this is about. That's not this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
We're simply we judged your your gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
All I'm pointing out here is that so I need to.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Be backed up on this. He's been awful gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It feels like they have flown under the radar. All right,
that's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Who's worse between Jodason and Live bet Jesus.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I'm not quite sure, but it's probably Live bet Jesus
because he bets less and loses just as much.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Alee, did you send out a picture of that quote
unquote pub you were at? Did you crop out those
people and send that picture out or no?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
No, no, not yet working on it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You gotta send that out just so we don't feel
like we're alienating the listeners when we, you know, talk
about where you went and hung out yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Oh okay, my fault here we go.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, By the way, what I'm not sure what
you're up to with that? If you Uh, why would
you want to have tacos at a pub?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
They're not great tacos, but two dollars tacos on Taco Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Okay for the price because you're playing five dollars shots,
so you have to make up for a summer.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Jonas like, why don't you just make tacos at home?
Probably save money.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
I made a breakfast taco actually right before I went there. Okay, yeah,
it's delicious, much better.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
All right, So you made a breakfast taco that was better,
yet then you went to this place, this pub for
two dollars tacos.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He loves specials, man, Yeah are you really? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Are you the guy that hears like the happy hour special?
And you're like, yep, every one of those.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I was actually really upset because I got there right
after a happy hour. And then I got really excited
because I was like, Oh, it's Taco Tuesday that goes
all day.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
The super Bowl in Phoenix where we were sitting at
the bar and we're with Scott Shapiro or a boss
is there and Lee orders the brown bag surprise, and
Scott and I are looking at like, what's that? And
Lee goes, I don't know, let's see, and it's like
a dollar cheaper and they give you a brown bag
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and you open up surprise. You have no idea which
beer it is. But because it was a dollar cheaper,
Lee was getting brown bag surprises and it was like
some awful and what was it?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It was some uh.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Whatever they're trying to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So just because he can save four quarters, he went
brown bag surprise and our boss just looking at him,
going all right, so yeah, he's a big fan of
special So that's.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Uh in Lee's defense, Okay, I'll say this, he was
trying to save the company money because he's definitely gonna
expense that.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, no, no doubt about it. I mean, you know, yeah,
I did see that story, you know. I mean, uh,
it's too bad LeVar is not here to uh to
comment on that. You know, the uh the situation in
Las Vegas currently going on. But nonetheless, that is your
your look at the NFC East right now with the
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Philadelphia Eagles aggressive yet again in trying to make a move.
And you know what's uh, you know what's funny about
the Eagles too. They could go to the postseason and
if they lose and say the first round, do they
get upset or you know, lose on a crazy way.
Nick Sirianni could be out of a job and they
would just hire Bill Belichick, and Belichick with that roster
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would absolutely take that job in Philly. Or is Howie
Roseman too abrasive that Belichick wouldn't want to work with
Howie Roseman because that roster is ready made if something
were to happen, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean, did they I mean, obviously they probably didn't
inquire about Bill to Bill Belichick, but I'm sure it'd
be one that he would look at. I mean, it'd
be on the East coast. Sounds like he wants to
be on the East coast. But it is kind of
interesting if you go back to last year.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I mean, I guess similar.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
To Dallas in some ways, they've been a team that's
been a perennial playoff team.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
They've won a super Bowl, much more recently than the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
But like even last year, right eleven and six records
not good enough. They get into the playoffs, they lose
the wild card round to the Tampa Bay Bucks, and
that's where all the speculation. I mean it really started,
you know, earlier in the year when they were what
ten and one at one point, and everyone's like, man,
this is odd, but no one felt really good about
them as a ten and one football team.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
It just felt off for something felt different.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And then they went on that skid, but they only
won one of their last six games.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And DeVante Smith was the one guy that was calling
it out like, yeah, our record's great, but we're not
playing that well.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It was like what he made, like you're just wait. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It wasn't like they had a difficult stretch either, I
mean outside of playing San France after that and Dallas,
I mean Seattle, you know, the Giants and the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Hey, only team that he was the Giants one side
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, So we get to see how that shapes up
with the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, they're going to
be rocking the old eighties, late eighties slash nineties unis
permanently resting.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, I'm not into that leads more into the kind
of fashion.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, I mean, if anybody knows, like, if you're the
Eagles and you really want to tie this whole thing together,
just go back to those late eighties, like Randall Cunningham.
Your jerseys like they're so cool, so much better than
whatever this modern edition is. That would be my recommendation.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
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Speaker 2 (28:42):
So normally on Wednesdays at eight twenty Eastern time, five
twenty Pacific, the old p Petris Papadeka stops by, but
due to high demand, he's being asked to come on
even earlier, so we turn it over now to Petros Papadakis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
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which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five to
seveny LA Sports, Fox college football analysts and our good
buddy Pee. What's happening?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Good morning, Hello, Hello to everybody, Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Hello, Petros. We need you to try and clear up
some confusion for us here on the show if you could, Okay,
all right. So JJ Reddick had this press conference, this
introductory press conference with the LA media, and somebody was
in the background, like yelling in support of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
Yeah, somebody asked me that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Do you have a guess? Is there in top three?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
We were on live for that though, because the Dodgers
are in Chicago, So we were on for the second
half of the press conference, and it was pretty remarkable.
We were there for the double F bomb. The Guardian
asked a question, Well, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
How the dumb button works, right, of course, So like
the dumb button's kind of like a.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
Like a water pressure mechanism or a hydraulic thing, like
it needs to be reset. Right, So you drop one
F bomb, we dump it, and then it's got to
be reset. We dump another one. If he dropped the third,
it was getting on air. Yeah, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
JJ Reddick knows that or cares.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
But it was pretty funny, you know, like, hey, do
you care about all the people saying disparage things about you?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No? I don't e f and care. I want to
be the effing coach.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
It's like, all right, well it seems like when you
start dropping F bombs, it seems like you care a
little bit. But yeah, the Lakers hired JJ Reddick and
we had the press conference and now they're going to
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
All summer long.
Speaker 11 (31:00):
It'll be a whole thing and they remain in the
twenty four hour pantheon of what did jj Reddit call it?
Engagement farming industry?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, yes, yes, thanks Ale, which she was a part of.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah he yeah, And they'll be a and instead of
being a coach, which was his lifelong dream quote unquote.
So if your lifelong dream is a coach, you go coach.
You go coach at Memphis or something like Luke Walton.
But anyway, we had that whole thing and we all survived,
and now they'll be part of the engagement farming industry.
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Everything he does, everything he says, everybody hires every chivato
around the corner, watching everything you do everything. You think
it will be like that all all summer long, except
for the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We had the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That is right.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
We've got that to look forward to, which will be
awesome when it comes. But until then, we've got you
Petros and we've got the Lakers. And I've got to
ask you this because I think you'd agree, like this
was Lebron's higher that he wanted for head coach. Is
that fair to say?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And now you have claimed that you've been bent over
a barrel, not my words, those are your words. Do
you expect to get bent over a barrel as well?
By JJ Reddick? Well, there'll be two men bending you
and Matt money Smith over a barrel now for the
foreseeable future.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
It's not Matt money Smith and Hyatt who are being
forced against our will by Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's everybody. Everyone's being to bed over a barrel. Right.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
There's been a bunch of coopers who are like just
over time working to make enough barrels for us all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Over So are you saying Petris at your z and
not Marcellus in pulp fiction? Is that what you're saying?
You're just watching it happen.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
That's an interesting question. I don't feel like I'm being
nailed by the king, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't feel like the King is laboring over me
in the Victory Motel in Glendale.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (33:16):
But it feels like he's doing that to the entire
basketball globe, right, And I guess I'm sorry. It's a
little earlier than normal, so I'm a little foggy, and
I was up kind of late last night. But let
me try and make this as clear as possible. I
think about and I tried to make this analogy on
the show and it didn't work, but I'm gonna try
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it again. Think of like nineteen sixties nineteen seventies American
foreign influence right now, and think of the Lakers as
some weird South American or Central American country with leadership
(33:57):
that is somehow in limbo between communism and capitalism in
the sixties and seventies. So let's say the Lakers are
like Nicaragua. Okay, the puppet government installed by the CIA
is who Jj Reddick and Rob Polinka? Who's the CIA?
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Lebron fall No, yeah, and Lebron yes yeah, yes. So
we basically go through all these weird motions, acting like
there's been an election, acting like this is the will
of the public, acting like the Lakers went and did
their due diligence while trying to hire a head coach.
We sit there and talk about quote unquote installing an offense,
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sit there and talk about quote unquote player development, sit
there and talk about, you know, competing for a championship
and all these things, when really it's all just Lebron Lebron,
Lebron and whatever Lebron wants, and the fact that we're
all doing this and everybody sat there with a straight face,
and he said that he didn't talk to Lebron. And
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then they're gonna do this whole thing about Bronnie James.
You know, they're gonna they're gonna draft Bronnie James, and
they're gonna act like Lebron had nothing to do with it.
And the whole media is going to march, at least
the two three dozen people.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That are subjects of the King.
Speaker 11 (35:25):
They're going to do their thing and spin it that
way and talk about how JJ reddicks somehow pat Riley
or JJ reddicks this innovative basketball mind. If JJ Reddick
wanted to coach, you should have gone into coaching. But
he didn't have to to become the Laker head coach.
Why because Lebron had him installed. It's the most clear
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thing in the world. Yet it's almost too simple and
too upsetting and too defamatory to say, yes, this is
all Lebron's decision. Lebron is doing all of this. Lebron
is pulled all these strings. He's able to do it
with the Lakers because of their week leadership. He's able
to install a coach with absolutely no experience beyond coaching
(36:08):
a fourth grade team, and they actually put that up
on the ticker, like beyond coaching youth basketball. It's like,
I mean, that's the same credentials as like half the
men in my neighborhood. For god sake, you know, it's
pretty amazing. And then we just all just say, hey,
this grade and oh, I love how he dropped an
f bob. Look at how irreverend he was. Oh, and
(36:31):
it's just like, wow, this was It was interesting, but
it was basically a foregone conclusion. It was something we've
been talking about for months. And if they really wanted
Danny Hurley, they weren't have low balled him.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Uh that's I guess. That's the part that I find
that I would almost have more respect and it wouldn't
bother me as much if Lebron just came out and said, yeah,
this is the guy that I wanted, and yes, I
did want them to draft my son. It's the fact
that the pretend game of well, no, none of that
is the case. His entire career, he's tried to dictate
(37:04):
to the organization what he wants coaches, fired, players, traded
his entire career, like I don't like. I think a
lot of us if we had that sort of influence,
we'd probably want that sort of influence on certain things,
like I would. I don't mind that as much as
the whole the act of Oh, I don't.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Know, he in my face and tell me it's raised.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, like I don't, I don't get. And then you
watch after the press conference, JJ Reddick go and shake
hands with members of the media.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Oh, and they all go and kiss his ass and
a whole hold.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
Well, it's like when the president, It's like when the
State of the Union, and everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like this is supposed to be media and they're all
fanboys and fangirls.
Speaker 11 (37:45):
And laughing and shaking hands and lining up to shake
hands watch his balls. And while those two f bombs
were really poigned in the moment, JJ, Wow, that was awesome,
you know, And maybe he'll end up being a great coach.
Who's to say, like, he's definitely not a stupid guy.
I mean, he's definitely a guy that can communicate, and
(38:05):
I'm sure that he knows basketball in a very complex
and real way. But even saying all that and let's
just say he was a real coach. Let's just say
he was a guy with a quote unquote offensive system.
What does that mean, by the way, I mean, you
just hand the ball to Lebron and do what Lebron says,
(38:26):
what are your rotations? Whatever Lebron says, what do you
I mean, It's it's asinine that we have to go
through these motions as a media and I've resented it
since we started, and it will continue because they hired
a guy with no experience, So it'll be a story,
like I said, all summer long and into the season,
and you know, it's like the Lonzo Ball era or
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the end of the Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Contract, the last one.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
It's kind of like the Lakers will be relevant, but
they won't be relevant because they're good. They'll be relevant
because it's the Lakers and it's and it's a dumpster fire.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Is this a byproduct though, of how the league works?
I mean, the NBA is propped up, I guess as
I compare it to like the NFL. For example, we
can have someone like Tom Brady, who is the greatest
or has the greatest resume in NFL history. Is the
Goat retire and then someone immediately is stepping in behind
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him and Patch Mahomes to try to dethrone him, like
immediately right, and then maybe there's a little rivalry too
at the end of Tom's career with Patrick Mahomes coming on.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
But like the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Seems to continue to sustain and move forward and not
really have that hit of losing superstars, Like the NBA
differs where Lebron means that much to the NBA obviously
with the way they go about scheduling, the way they
go about the news of the off season, where he's
gonna be and everything that's propped up this NBA draft. Honestly,
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the biggest talking point of the NBA Draft has been
Bronnie James. And obviously it's a it's a byproduct of
Lebron James because maybe that impacts where he goes. But
I guess the question I'm getting to is, as much
as we want to bemoan about what Lebron has done
or hasn't done, Like, isn't that kind of just how
the NBA works, Like we kind of blame him, But
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like if we're going to compare him to Michael Jordan,
if Michael Jordan was doing this, would you have an
issue with it too if that was if his son,
you know, and he had the chance to play with
his son and all that.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, the son part. Yes, Michael Jordan did have
a son, you.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Know, but he didn't play it long enough and his
son didn't have you know what I'm saying to that
in Central Florida.
Speaker 11 (40:42):
He's probably a lot better at college at the end
of the day than Brony. No, I take your point.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Is it more of a byproduct of the NBA?
Speaker 11 (40:50):
Well, you're speaking of the individual superstar right nature of
the NBA. It's the model they built, like this is
what adam these guys. Well maybe, but look at I'm
i mean, the best thing to do with the Lakers
and figure out why they're in such tumult and why
it's been such an issue. And the COVID Championship that
everybody leans on is another weird talking point that everybody
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just say.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Boys, yeah, everybody just says and nobody believes.
Speaker 11 (41:16):
You know, and you can say the same thing about
even though it was in front of people, the Dodger
Championship when they won, and even though the city went
crazy like they did. They did much more so for
the Dodgers championship during COVID than when the Lakers won.
But that whole thing it rings kind of hollow to
people that hunger and crave for a real title and
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a real parade and all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So you look at that and say, well, maybe this
is how the NBA is. They cowtowed to Kobe.
Speaker 11 (41:50):
At the end of his career and kind of threw
the roster up in the air and threw their hands
up in the air and said whatever.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Fine.
Speaker 11 (41:57):
But juxtaposed that against what the Lakers number one rival.
The thing that makes this look even worse the fact
that the Celtics are doing what they're doing and how
did they do it. They've had disappointments, they've had set Max,
they had to fire their coach who was having an
affair or whatever with a hot mom some kind. But
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they have consistency. They have the same players, they have
the same system. Their role players know exactly what they're
supposed to do on any given night.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Their rotations are very consistent.
Speaker 11 (42:34):
Everybody has an idea of what's expected and from the
top all the way down, and it's the absolute opposite
of what the Lakers have, and the Celtics have superstars.
They have guys that are max contract, big time players,
and they've figured it out and they've figured out how
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to be there consistently.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
On the top of mountain for the last few years.
Speaker 11 (43:02):
Now there's a cyclical thing and saying this is their
time and you know.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
When this guy gets old, it's not going to be
that way.
Speaker 11 (43:09):
But you look at the Celtics and you say, well,
that's how you do it in modern times, or the
Nuggets or somebody like that. Keep the team together, keep
the coach there, keep the consistency. Everybody knows what they're
supposed to do. And that's kind of the opposite of
how the Lakers operate. And that goes without saying even
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Lebron couldn't argue that. So, yes, maybe it's a byproduct
of the modern NBA that if you get one of
these superstars, you end up being kind of in their
fiefdom until they decide to grace you with a retirement tour.
But it doesn't have to be that way. The Celtics
existence this year especially proves that it doesn't, and it
(43:51):
makes it that much more bitter for the old Laker
guard that's used to you know, the Red ar Bach
versus Jerry Buss type of days as has been dramatized
to that show, they get really angry, not just because
the Lakers are so chaotic, but because the Celtics are
the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
In real time right now, meanwhile, Petro's Jim Harbaugh just
won a national job.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Oh I saw him. He was at the Little League
right by my house.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Okay, I was gonna ask you because it feels like
he's gotten a fraction of the coverage that JJ Redding
Scott and because of the kiss ass Laker media in
this town. So that being said, is he different? Have
you noticed any sort of a difference between him now
after the Michigan experience back when as opposed to before
when you used to talk with him and he used
(44:42):
to come on and he used to call and try
and get interviews over at San Diego, Any difference with
Jim Harbaugh now that he's a national champion.
Speaker 11 (44:49):
He seems happy, right, I mean, at least in my opinion,
I've been around him twice now since he got the
Charger job, and he just seems publicly comfortable and enjoying life.
Enjoying living on the West Coast. I guess he lives
(45:09):
where all the cool people live, Manhattan Beach, California, right,
And he had a big lipper in and he was
watching a Little League game the other day that I saw,
and it's it's refreshing. He's a real person, whether or not.
I mean it's I think it's really hard to compare
the coverage, because how much coverage of the Chargers ever
(45:30):
get right?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
How much off season coverage to the Chargers get ever?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Is that because the Rams steal it? Is that more
of the organization.
Speaker 11 (45:38):
Nobody carries that either nobody talks about them either unless
Stafford's wife says something.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Else to Stafford.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, and like talk about the past, you know, relationship
stuff going on there.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
What a lovely lady, And my apologies to him.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Why would you bring that up because you think I
don't already hear Why you say that?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Because you think of yourself as the hero of the story.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
That's why, Like what good can come from telling that story?
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Was it her and Joe Cox or whatever he was?
Speaker 11 (46:06):
Joe Cox was the backup who's now the tight end
coach at Old Miss for Lane Kiffin, And you know
he's looking at the mirror right now if he still
has a full head of red hair, and he's going,
that's right, you.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Damn right, Joe Cox, j C.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Baby, Like, what good can come from that?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Brady? I don't know.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
I didn't play quarterback. I'm not good looking. I was
in a row with all black guys. You know, we
didn't have We didn't have like all this girl's gonna
date one of us, and then she's gonna date the
full back.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
You know.
Speaker 11 (46:45):
I think I'm gonna start out with the every down guy,
and then I'm gonna hook up with the third down guy,
the screen pass guy, the Texas raut guy.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
And the guy just on special teams. Where does he
get it? He's like someone of the special team.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Sell it? Yeah, he's way down the line, right.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
I mean, who dumps anybody for the special team? Sell it?
Speaker 11 (47:08):
Nobody the special team. Zell Its gets like a glass
eyed girl. You know, she eye and she's been through
the wars. You know, I don't know. To be honest, like,
let me, let's unpack this to start. First of all,
nobody covers the Chargers or the Rams because nobody cares
about them in town. They get national coverage, and they're
(47:29):
great national brands and all that, But what's so sexy about, Hey,
Jim Harbaugh wants to run, you know, it's like, Okay,
we're gonna run the ball. What's so sexy about look
at this big, beautiful offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
That we drafted.
Speaker 11 (47:42):
I mean that it'll be sexy if they start winning
and he changes the culture there, and that that's one thing.
The Lakers are always a story month and a month out,
no matter what's happening, because well, they were such a
great franchise for all these years and now they're just
a dumpster fire again. I can't speak to the quarnerback
(48:02):
room with like the one really good looking Brady Quinn type,
and whoever's behind him and who's dating who?
Speaker 4 (48:10):
I have no idea.
Speaker 11 (48:13):
Kelly Stafford is a confounding personality in this town and
all over the place, and she usually when she says
something dumb.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
She comes out and apologizes right away.
Speaker 11 (48:25):
Like remember last preseason she was talking about how the
none of the receivers or they're all all on their
phones and they won't talk to Matt Stafford and he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Know how to relate with these young players.
Speaker 11 (48:39):
And she had to come out like right away and
be like, guys, I made a really big mistake. I
said something she has had you know, she hasn't done
that this time, which is interesting. You know, maybe some
internal fighting or maybe a late night phone call from
joke hops. You've received to collect call from Joe Park
(49:04):
Press one to except dude, it's cos there used to
be a coach at cal that that was the decordinator
that I committed to and then left in the middle
of the night and humiliated myself much like Stafford here
with his wife. And you know, it was like in
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the early days of voicemail, you know, where like, uh,
it would have that kind of if you'd like to
leave a message for and everybody's like trying to figure
it out. It's like nineteen ninety three and his phone
we used to call it all at all hours because
it was so funny. His name was Artie Gigantino, And uh,
it's like, if you'd like to leave a message for what,
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please press one? So anyway, you're receiving a collect call
from Oxford, Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I don't know. I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (50:12):
I got to be honest, I don't know. I don't
know what kind of conversation you have with your wife
when she comes home from doing And that wasn't even
her podcast. That was somebody else's podcast. That was Caitlin Bristow.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
She's not even making any money out of.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Some trash can chick from the Bachelor franchise?
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Is that the path? Is that?
Speaker 4 (50:31):
The path?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Like I meet people, They're like, oh, I was on
Bachelor Bachelor Season.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I'm like, is that what happens in Southern California? Like, no,
don't say no, because I've seen a lot of people
out there.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
They get asked to be on, they're on for like
a couple of episodes, they put it on their their
social media, then they try to get big on social
media from that. I'm a part of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I'm a part of it because they all want to
be on pms. They all want to be on with
Patrus's money when they back.
Speaker 11 (50:59):
They all want to be like Matt Liner with three
TikTok people in tow.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
I mean, what are we talking about.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
That's the same thing. That's what they do. They hire
TikTok people and they go tiktoking that's not how I
choose to live. I choose to live.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
I'm still in business. That I thought they were getting
shut down or something.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
I don't know. Ask Liner.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
I don't think he's following Congress and whether or not
they're going to shut down tips.
Speaker 11 (51:28):
I just don't know. Are you saying that Liner's not
up on current events.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
He's read the news on it, like I mean, I
think they've got six weeks.
Speaker 11 (51:36):
I know for a fact that first thing Liner does
is check all the sub stack stuff in the morning,
and then he hits up the Wall Street Journal, reads
the London Times. Linerd is the biggest and most sophisticated
media personality in the world. Oh man with a TikTok following.
All I'm saying is I just don't know. If you're
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Stafford and that podcast happens. You walk into the house
with the four little girls, It's like, you know, we
all went to college, we were all young at some point,
we were all in our twenties at some point. You know,
there's weird relationship overlap. People do this, People do that,
People find each other in interesting ways. But you have
what four little girls and you're on a podcast talking
(52:18):
about how you dated the backup to piss them off. Yeah,
I mean what happens when you come home that night?
You know, heys, you get the uncrustables? You know, what
do you say?
Speaker 4 (52:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Anyway, another Caprice Son, Hey you do that Clayton Caitlin
Bristow podcast, Well you can get petros on TikTok at
Joe Cox, I believe is where you can find them
on TikTok if you want to get a hold of
all your fun stuff and la reporting there from the
(52:53):
op on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
What if you're one of the tight ends in Joe Cox.
Speaker 11 (52:59):
What if you're like the hand in the ground, third
tight end that comes in on the goal line and
you're like, hey, coach, did you really hit that?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I mean, as you know from being in those scenarios,
you know exactly what you do the next morning after
that became public. If I was one of those, if
I was a quarterback on that team, I would have
printed off one hundred photos and plaster.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Them all around the tight end room.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Oh and just sobody what he walks in the It
walks into the tight end room like that's all he sees.
That's how football is like they we played jokes like that.
We give each other a hard time. That's just how
it works. Like that's probably what took place to some
degree there.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
So yeah.
Speaker 11 (53:37):
I mean I used to just get naked and put
a sheet on and run around the hallway screaming on
the hollow man. When the hollowman came out, I swear
I had a field day.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
I'm the hollow man.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Uh. Petros Papade gives. He's the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on A
five seventy Sports The Blowtorch. Also Fox college football analysts are.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
You've got to collect call Petro, you gotta collect call.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Oh, and I'm sorry I use the term dumpster fire twice.
Usually you know that's I'm just I'm a little foggy.
Speaker 11 (54:14):
That's all right, if you'd like to accept to click
call from.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Uh people will do it again.
Speaker 11 (54:25):
There'd be like a bat signal, like a phallic bat
signal in the sky, and Stafford'll look Stafford to look
through the Venetian blinds and see the Joe Cox signal
in the sky.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Uh be uh good stuff. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (54:42):
There he is.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Uh Petros Pavedek is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday morning,
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know, it's one of those days where you were
reminded last night and I'm reminded again today there's not
much out there for sports, and it's a sad time.
It's a sad time. I was watching I was at
Copa America. I was watching a little bit of that
last night. Kind of surprise Argentina. Couldn't, you know, do
a little more, But you know, that's all we got, man,
(00:37):
there's not much out there.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean, you could watch the Cubs implode and some more.
I mean, that's that's always fun, Like if I would
have recommend something for you so you can watch them.
And what's great about it is they could do it
on the West coast, they could do it in the Midwest,
the East coast, doesn't matter. Just a just an awful
baseball team. Uh So there's there's that. That's that's held
me hostage for a little while. You're Italians. They are
(01:00):
onto the round of sixteen. As we mentioned, with that
win a couple of days ago. So there is some
stuff out there, and again the ultimate sports condiment, gambling.
Just throw a little bit of coin on it and
it makes everything that much more watchable. That's that would
be my recommendation for everybody out there. But all of
that does not apply to the major situation that is
(01:26):
taking place in the world of sports, the NBA Draft.
Come on, baby, action it is. It is kind of wild.
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Wild to think.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Honestly, could you name over three and a half players?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh without looking at my computer?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely not. That's why I was.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was watching. I was trying to educate myself.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So I was like watching some box trafts last night
and I was like, okay, there's so many international players,
especially there's some prediction that make it one two. I
was like, I just it's hard to get into this.
Like basketball obviously has become such a global sport. And unfortunately,
because of whether you're gonna call our aau system, you
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know what everyone appoints our developmental system, We're not getting
guys at younger ages who are coming up and I've
looked at as being the top picks anymore. That's not
the case, it's guys now coming from Europe. As evidence
of that in our league, watching the guys win MVPs
and potentially what may happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's sort of the draft has become a casualty of
the European influence because the European players, to your point,
whether it's Luca or Joker or Wembin Yama, like those
guys are stars and they're great to watch at the
pro level, But for an event like the draft, not
doesn't really help matters much when people don't know who
they are, Like it just doesn't matter. Like the NFL
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draft takes over cities, like it takes over cities for
three days in a row. Green Bay is going to
get it next year. It's going to be a takeover.
They're running out of hotel rooms or like all of that.
The NBA draft just does not have that same effect,
Like there's just not And it used to be when
you would watch players come up through college and you
would see him play for two, three, four years at
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the same place, you were kind of interested to see, hey,
where so and so going to go like like where
is he going to get drafted? Is he a lottery pick?
And then you take it from there. But nowadays, yeah,
to your point, the European influence, it's just not international wise,
it's just not the same like it kind of it's
really sort of taking the starch out of the NBA draft,
which is unfortunate. I mean, you can still gamble on
(03:37):
it and we'll try and throw some over unders together,
but that's where the the NBA draft stands now. Mckl bridges,
that was a big deal yesterday. Maybe I miss something,
all right, Maybe this is, you know, something that I
was not aware of. But apparently mckel bridges is worth
a lot, and by a lot, I mean a lot
(04:01):
of picks in exchange, as the Nets have sent mckel
bridges to the New York Knicks with four unprotected first
rounders coming back in return, and I'm trying to figure
out is this all just a move to counteract what
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the Boston Celtics have done. I know they were talking
about a wing presence and what he provides, but that's
a lot to give up in return for mckl bridges,
who is a good player, a nice player, also a
durable player. I don't think he's missed a game his
entire career. I think he's got like a close to
six hundred straight games played. So if you're a fan
of anybody anti load management, he would be your guy.
(04:44):
But that seems like a lot of picks to give
up for mckl bridges just in hopes that you've got
enough to try and contend with the Boston Celtics next year.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So let's thinking about this last night. I mean, draft
picks aren't viewed all the same in every league. In
the NFL, they're coveted because if you find yourself in
a spot where you need a quarterback, wide receiver edge
wearsher tackle, you feel like you can grab a guy
in that top five, top ten spot or package those
first round picks to maneuver up even higher to get
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that guy right.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
It's not really like that in basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I mean, look through the entire first round outside of
I mean, I guess by year coming out high school,
we would.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Have said Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
How many guys do you look at every single year
in the NBA draft and say that is a franchise
altering pick or selection.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Not a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, we look at the NFL, we say that
almost every other year. Caleb Williams is viewed as a
generational talent, people who are comparing him to Patrick Mahomes,
which which you could probably see that a little bit,
but look what Patrick Mahomes has done, he's got in
the league, and then that's at least how Caleb Williams
is viewed.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean, the Chicago Bears moved off of a first.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Round pick a quarterback that looked like he was progressing
in justin fields once the game is some weapons to say, no,
we're gonna go with the guy's never thrown in the
NFL before, and we feel like we have a better
chance of winning and building up our franchise with that
guy as opposed to the guy who's been here, even
though at some point we felt good enough to take
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him in.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
The first round.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Can I compliment you on something that you mentioned a
while back, your comp for Caleb Williams to Aaron Rodgers,
way to go, way to not be lazy and not
just do well. You know they've got, you know, something
in common, so let's go that direction. The fact that
you went Aaron Rodgers is your comp a little while
back as opposed to the typical Patrick Mahomes. I was
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a big fan of that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, I mean, if we really want to go down
this path, I don't thoughe them that I gave a
comp because I hate comps.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I hate when people do this. We talk about this
every year.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I'm like, why can't we just view them in a
vacuum and say this player is this player?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's like, no, we got to, like picture what it'd
be like. In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's like, all right, now, I'm gonna have to pull
through a rolldex of quarterbacks, some of which might have
played twenty years ago, and people are gonna be like, oh.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, okay, I could see that. Yeah, okay, I feel
better about my team drafting them now. It's just it
doesn't make any sense to me. But you get my point.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like in the NBA, you can package all these these
draft picks up because you know what you have in
Michel Bridges, Like you know how good he is, you
know what he means immediately walking in the door. And
I feel like there's even though there's elements of that
in the NFL with some of the veterans that move around,
it's not viewed quite the same. I mean, we could
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talk about, for example, you know, Brian Burns in that
trade between the Panthers and the Giants, and obviously the
Giants thought it was gonna cost more.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
The Panthers ended up not.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
There's there's times when those picks are really valued and coveted,
and there's times when they're not, and and depending on
the league.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And then had a technical difficulty to be.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Able to bring in a veteran guy who he know
is gonna help us win.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, listen, look, I hope it works out for the Knicks.
You know, the the NBA would love nothing more than
for the Knicks to be a legitimate contender and to
be one of those teams that could challenge Boston in
the Eastern Conference. I think there was probably a little
bit of disappointment when Indiana was the was the team
that came out of that series and ended up going
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to see Boston in the Eastern Conference finals. But I
just I look at it, and I know he's got
a contract that seems, you know, very very manageable. Over
the next couple of years, he was pretty coveted by
a lot of teams in the NBA. And again, he's durable.
He also meets all the qualifications hard nos guy, and
he went to Villanova, so the fact that the Knicks
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are going to land another Villanova prospect. They are rivaling,
you know what is happening with Georgia players and the
Philadelphia Eagles. The Knicks, in their Villanova love affair, is
pretty impressed. I believe he's like the fourth player from
Villanova on that team. So nonetheless, congratulations to the New
York Knicks they get it done. Congratulations to the Nets.
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Who knows what you got a bunch of lotto scratchers
and we'll see what they turn into. And then the
NBA Draft goes on later on tonight and we get
to see some players that nobody's probably ever heard of,
you know, for the for the majority of the people
listening and watching, to try and change the fortunes of
a franchise, it's fun. So there's that. There's that coverage
of the NBA Draft. Now, are you into it enough
(09:32):
to want to throw down a little bit on some overunders,
because you know the way I operate, Like, if we
do over unders and Lee puts together some picks, I'm
probably gonna go five for five or ten for ten.
I don't know if you want that smoke on a
Wednesday morning, but it's up to you pick a card,
any card.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, for the you know, for the sake of the show,
I'm willing to do that. But I'm not actually gonna
lay any money on this. I don't know anything about
the NBA Draft, so I'm not going to claim to
know either. Like all those WNBA fans out there, we've
got a hot takes.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, there's there's all that. Do you think they could
if they wanted to spice this up? Could they move
it around a little bit the NBA Draft, like throw
it in some different cities as opposed to just you know,
continuing to run it out of New York, Like, uh,
you know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't think there's a big enough audience.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, is there.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Do you feel like you're gonna get the same crowd
you got in Detroit?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Absolutely not in case, So why do you need to
move it around?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, just like try and spice it up a little bit,
you know, like trying to so.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
The player's standpoint, though we've talked about this, there was
something that was nostalgic about going to New York.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I mean for the NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like my family members who went for that trip to
see me get drafted. That will never go back to
New York City, and that was their first and only time,
and it was a cool experience for them. But to
think that, you know, you're gonna move it around and
get the same sort at one of you be copying
the NFL, which I don't think the NBA wants to do.
I mean only from maybe a business standpoint, but that's
about it. But the next thing to that would be
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I just don't think they get the same fanfare. It
almost would look worse because you would be directly comparing
yourself to the NFL and realize that you are in
second fiddle at best, maybe even.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Worse than that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, like standing in
a trough next to Dirk Diggler. Not a fun ride. Now,
I didn't didn't want to have to get that. Well, listen,
you got to make sure everybody's paying attention. Did you
get the text from Lee just showcasing that he does
have proof that he was at the pub yesterday? As
if we needed proof that Lee was at the pub yesterday,
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he did send over photographic evidence. I mean, it doesn't
really look like a pub.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'll be honest with you, I've gotten no text from Lee.
The only thing I got from Lee's yeah good.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I've texted you twice now I've.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Allayd got one.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, he sent over a uh he sent over a picture.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, oh, sorry, different text. That was a group text.
Sorry sorry Lee.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Lee was claiming that I was having technical issues, but
I think I was just on mute.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Maybe I'll agree that I was envisioning I would go
to a different pub. Did not go to the soccer
pub that's famous out here in the valley.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I went to a different pub.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I forgot it was a pub.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yeah, it doesn't even look like a pub technically a pub.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
It's more it's it's a It was Taco Tuesday over
at this spot, so I went over there and stayed.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, good deal.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Hold on, let's just break this photo down, all right,
for those who can't see it. In the bottom left
of this photo, there's a woman sitting with a Stanley
and it looks like a bunch of like papers dividers.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It looks like more of an office space than.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
She is rocking a pretty clean and then above.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Her are two TVs on a wall that looks like
it's it wasn't meant to be placed there, like someone
just decided to put the TVs up and then the
bottom right there's just a random guy with a Harley
Davidson t shirt on. He looks like he's looking down
at something. That's about it. It's a very scantly decorated room.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It looks like the waiting room at a car dealership.
To be honest with you, there's not it. It's too
clean to be a pub.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And that's a fair calm.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And when I think when I think about pubs, I
think low ceilings, kind of like a little bit dark.
This is way too lit up to be a pub.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See he's placed in spots where people can look at them.
Both of these people have their backs to the TV.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They literally could not care less. So there's two live
sporting events going on.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Did you have the worst taste in what you call
quote unquote pubs of anyone we know?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Like I said, it was not where I envisioned watching
a good, uh soccer match.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
But talk Abo Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We went to twenty different spots in Dublin, Ireland like
pubs central, and you chose like the Kia dealership off
some of Pulvi or to watch a soccer game at
Come on, just tires.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah, I agree, you know what I did, bad job
by me. But when you got five dollars marks and
five dollars shots and two dollars tacos and they just
reintroduced past store tacos there, it was the first time there.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Was a good price now.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, especially it was either patron or Don Julio, your choice.
I'm a Don Julio guy myself.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
But I'm sorry for everyone out there. Man, I don't
know how things got this way. Yeah, it's that's ridiculous.
A five dollars shot.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I know.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
That's why you get a flask man. You got to
bring a flask and was ahead of the yea.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean the other issue was like, what if you're
hearing shots different than what you have in the flask?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Okay, Pinky's up, Brady.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Ed, there's so much, just like a smorgasbord. Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You really just you're you're excited to wake up the
next morning filling hungover.
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
One of the things that was mentioned we were talking
about this last hour the trailer for Our Hard Knocks
that came out in which they were discussing the deal
to try and get Brian Burns and Brian Burns and
what it would cost and the Giants were surprised that
it wasn't going to cost as much. There was also
some discussion about Saquon Barkley, where apparently Joe Shane, the
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GM of the Giants, was asking Saquon if they were
going to give him a chance or whatnot. Saquon Barkley
is said after the fact that the Giants didn't really
make him much of an offer and that's why he
ended up signing in Philadelphia. Either way, you know, it
feels like if there was an opportunity to sign Saquon Barkley,
it had been there for a while and ultimately they
(16:23):
chose to go in a different direction. So, I mean,
we can try and repair that, and you know, point
fingers at who was at fault. They had every opportunity
in the world to try and get a deal done.
They didn't get it done. That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I mean, they had plenty of time, plenty of opportunities.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The reality is is not many organizations value the running
back position the way a team like the San Francisco
forty nine ers does.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I mean, whether it's with.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
The Christian McCaffrey contract or even the way they've gone about,
you know, trying to accumulate running backs to add to
the roster that fit their running style and scheme.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
And they're different in that sense. It works for them.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
But when you're talking about a Giants team that wanted
to load up on defense and when to focus their
time on acquiring Brian Burns, you know, and and a
pass catching weapon even though Saquon is that they're viewing
more things from the perimeter, not necessarily from the backfield.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So Lane Johnson, the offensive tackle of the Philadelphia Eagles,
did talk with NFL insiders about the acquisition of Saquon Barkley.
He was a little bit surprised. I think a lot
of people were that he ended up in the division,
stayed in the nfcas to ended up with Philly. Here
was their ot and once you're.
Speaker 10 (17:36):
Saying you'll never forget just you know, a physically imposing guy.
I think he walks around around two thirty. You know,
he likes the golf, so we've been golfing with Te Tomes.
He's ultra competitive. But yeah, I mean when you see
obviously what he can do at the running back position,
and we can flex him out a receiver and he
can you know, he can go.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
It's it's really unbelievable. I never thought that he would
be playing for us, but you know, here it is.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
I know that he's excited. We're definitely excited up front,
and yeah, man, I think he's boys for a big,
big year.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So when you couple that with the fact that they
go out and they signed Saquon Barkley outside of Jason Kelsey,
they brought everybody back this year. And then there's this
story that came out that even after they went and
signed Michael Vick to the contract extension years ago, that
they were aggressively trying to trade up because they wanted
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to get their hands on Andrew Locke. If you're an
Eagles fan, or if you're just a fan in general,
that's all you can ask for from your organization. They
are never satisfied. They never settle if it means changing coaches,
whatever it takes, and it's why they're near the top
of the league over the past decade plus, with different coaches,
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different quarterbacks. It's just another example of Philadelphia getting aggressive
and doing things that a lot of organizations and a
lot of teams wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Howie Roseman is one of the best at constructing a
roster to make them competitive and allow them to compete
for Super Bowls. I mean, case closed. He is one
of the best in the NFL At doing so. He's
ultimately the one behind the scenes pulling the strings. Now
that being said, he's typically had his issues with coaches.
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It doesn't matter who it's been in recent history. I
mean even Doug Peterson, who's won them a super Bowl,
it didn't matter. You know, he's moved on is now
in Jacksonville. Last year, with how things went with that season,
you know, you got some rumblings that maybe there's some
discontent at times between Nick Sirianni and the front officer
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you know, players, coach staff and all that. It seems
like Halie Roseman is the one person that has been
the constant on a team that has been able to
put together some of the most talented rosters the NFL scene.
I mean, I know that remember the whole Dream Team,
and that was back a little bit. I think maybe
after the whole Michael Vick era there as their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
But so it was read around that time.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, like you think back to that and you go, yeah,
that was over a decade ago and they were putting
together rosters that that's what players were calling it. That's
what people on the outside viewed it as. I mean,
just ridiculously talented teams. Now that doesn't always mean you
equate to wins. It takes a combination of things in
chemistry and good scheme and coaching. But I mean they're
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at least set up to have a shot. I mean
every off season, Eagles fans should be extremely excited about
what their roster looks like going into season. I mean,
even if they face some injury issues, they still have
depth there too, enough to be able to compete. So
he's done an unbelievable job, and it compares to other
franchise you could see why they're always in the hunt,
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always in the always in contention.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
It's why I'm optimistic about the team this year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And if you look at the changes they made this offseason,
it wasn't even focused on really much of the roster
reconstruction I should say reconstruction construction of the roster.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It was more about the coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I mean, hiring two new coordinators was essentially saying, look,
we feel like we've got the guys on the roster.
It was just the guys maybe calling the defense, calling
the offense.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
That weren't the right fit for us.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
And we feel much better with Kellen Moore, we felt
much better with Vic Fangio. So I just I mean,
they're to me a Super Bowl contending team from the NFC.
I think Jaylor Hurts is going to have a bounce
back year. Hopefully's one hundred percent healthy, because remember, at
times last year it seemed like he was really fighting
through a ton. But the way they do business, the
way they construct the roster is as good as anyone
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It is kind of interesting how just because of last
year and the way it ended that it's sort of
under the radar as a potential super Bowl team because,
like I mean, if you just looked at I mean,
the Lions have shorter odds to go to the super
Bowl than the Eagles do. And I look at him
and I go, all right, well, who else really improved
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that dramatically in the NFL? If you just went in
division wise, who else really improved dramatically in the NFC East.
The Cowboys sure as hell didn't. Washington, you can argue that,
but they've got a rookie quarterback, and who the hell
knows of the Giants. The Giants lost maybe their best
player to Philadelphia in Saquon Barkley. So I look at
it and I go, whatever the issue was, and the
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meltdown and the coaches and all of that stuff. There
was talks at AJ Brown wasn't happy. Well they extended him.
As we pointed out, like I look at it and
I go, I don't know that it's even close as
to who's had the best offseason in that division. And
yet when you talk about, you know, the Super Bowl
contenders coming out of the out of the NFC, like
I think a lot of people look at the Niners
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and go, well, you know, that's a real possibility. The
Lions take the next step, and you got Philadelphia sitting
there at seventeen to one to win a super Bowl.
You got Philadelphia sitting there in the NFC right now.
If you were to go on DraftKings at seven to one,
that's a live dog. They shouldn't have the same odds
as Dallas to come out of the NFC based on
this offseason. Philly, Philly's got a change. It's here and
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they don't have the Super Bowl hangover like they did
last year.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Why don't you just tell people to bet on them
then instead of like saying, oh they got a.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Chance, or oh the live dog or the same mod's death,
just tell people to bet on them, because I don't
know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
The problem is you're worried about giving that advice because
you're awful of gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, well, we don't need to call names here, and
we don't need to pass judgment on the air. That's
not what this is about. That's not this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
We're simply we judged your your gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
All I'm pointing out here is that so I need to.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Be backed up on this. He's been awful gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It feels like they have flown under the radar. All right,
that's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Who's worse between Jodason and Live bet Jesus.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I'm not quite sure, but it's probably Live bet Jesus
because he bets less and loses just as much.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Alee, did you send out a picture of that quote
unquote pub you were at? Did you crop out those
people and send that picture out or no?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
No, no, not yet working on it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You gotta send that out just so we don't feel
like we're alienating the listeners when we, you know, talk
about where you went and hung out yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Oh okay, my fault here we go.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, By the way, what I'm not sure what
you're up to with that? If you Uh, why would
you want to have tacos at a pub?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
They're not great tacos, but two dollars tacos on Taco Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Okay for the price because you're playing five dollars shots,
so you have to make up for a summer.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Jonas like, why don't you just make tacos at home?
Probably save money.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
I made a breakfast taco actually right before I went there. Okay, yeah,
it's delicious, much better.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
All right, So you made a breakfast taco that was better,
yet then you went to this place, this pub for
two dollars tacos.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He loves specials, man, Yeah are you really? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Are you the guy that hears like the happy hour special?
And you're like, yep, every one of those.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I was actually really upset because I got there right
after a happy hour. And then I got really excited
because I was like, Oh, it's Taco Tuesday that goes
all day.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
The super Bowl in Phoenix where we were sitting at
the bar and we're with Scott Shapiro or a boss
is there and Lee orders the brown bag surprise, and
Scott and I are looking at like, what's that? And
Lee goes, I don't know, let's see, and it's like
a dollar cheaper and they give you a brown bag
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and you open up surprise. You have no idea which
beer it is. But because it was a dollar cheaper,
Lee was getting brown bag surprises and it was like
some awful and what was it?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It was some uh.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Whatever they're trying to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So just because he can save four quarters, he went
brown bag surprise and our boss just looking at him,
going all right, so yeah, he's a big fan of
special So that's.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Uh in Lee's defense, Okay, I'll say this, he was
trying to save the company money because he's definitely gonna
expense that.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, no, no doubt about it. I mean, you know, yeah,
I did see that story, you know. I mean, uh,
it's too bad LeVar is not here to uh to
comment on that. You know, the uh the situation in
Las Vegas currently going on. But nonetheless, that is your
your look at the NFC East right now with the
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Philadelphia Eagles aggressive yet again in trying to make a move.
And you know what's uh, you know what's funny about
the Eagles too. They could go to the postseason and
if they lose and say the first round, do they
get upset or you know, lose on a crazy way.
Nick Sirianni could be out of a job and they
would just hire Bill Belichick, and Belichick with that roster
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would absolutely take that job in Philly. Or is Howie
Roseman too abrasive that Belichick wouldn't want to work with
Howie Roseman because that roster is ready made if something
were to happen, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean, did they I mean, obviously they probably didn't
inquire about Bill to Bill Belichick, but I'm sure it'd
be one that he would look at. I mean, it'd
be on the East coast. Sounds like he wants to
be on the East coast. But it is kind of
interesting if you go back to last year.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I mean, I guess similar.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
To Dallas in some ways, they've been a team that's
been a perennial playoff team.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
They've won a super Bowl, much more recently than the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
But like even last year, right eleven and six records
not good enough. They get into the playoffs, they lose
the wild card round to the Tampa Bay Bucks, and
that's where all the speculation. I mean it really started,
you know, earlier in the year when they were what
ten and one at one point, and everyone's like, man,
this is odd, but no one felt really good about
them as a ten and one football team.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
It just felt off for something felt different.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And then they went on that skid, but they only
won one of their last six games.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And DeVante Smith was the one guy that was calling
it out like, yeah, our record's great, but we're not
playing that well.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It was like what he made, like you're just wait. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It wasn't like they had a difficult stretch either, I
mean outside of playing San France after that and Dallas,
I mean Seattle, you know, the Giants and the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Hey, only team that he was the Giants one side
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, So we get to see how that shapes up
with the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, they're going to
be rocking the old eighties, late eighties slash nineties unis
permanently resting.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, I'm not into that leads more into the kind
of fashion.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, I mean, if anybody knows, like, if you're the
Eagles and you really want to tie this whole thing together,
just go back to those late eighties, like Randall Cunningham.
Your jerseys like they're so cool, so much better than
whatever this modern edition is. That would be my recommendation.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
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So normally on Wednesdays at eight twenty Eastern time, five
twenty Pacific, the old p Petris Papadeka stops by, but
due to high demand, he's being asked to come on
even earlier, so we turn it over now to Petros Papadakis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
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which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five to
seveny LA Sports, Fox college football analysts and our good
buddy Pee. What's happening?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Good morning, Hello, Hello to everybody, Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Hello, Petros. We need you to try and clear up
some confusion for us here on the show if you could, Okay,
all right. So JJ Reddick had this press conference, this
introductory press conference with the LA media, and somebody was
in the background, like yelling in support of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
Yeah, somebody asked me that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Do you have a guess? Is there in top three?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
We were on live for that though, because the Dodgers
are in Chicago, So we were on for the second
half of the press conference, and it was pretty remarkable.
We were there for the double F bomb. The Guardian
asked a question, Well, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
How the dumb button works, right, of course, So like
the dumb button's kind of like a.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
Like a water pressure mechanism or a hydraulic thing, like
it needs to be reset. Right, So you drop one
F bomb, we dump it, and then it's got to
be reset. We dump another one. If he dropped the third,
it was getting on air. Yeah, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
JJ Reddick knows that or cares.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
But it was pretty funny, you know, like, hey, do
you care about all the people saying disparage things about you?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No? I don't e f and care. I want to
be the effing coach.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
It's like, all right, well it seems like when you
start dropping F bombs, it seems like you care a
little bit. But yeah, the Lakers hired JJ Reddick and
we had the press conference and now they're going to
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
All summer long.
Speaker 11 (31:00):
It'll be a whole thing and they remain in the
twenty four hour pantheon of what did jj Reddit call it?
Engagement farming industry?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, yes, yes, thanks Ale, which she was a part of.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah he yeah, And they'll be a and instead of
being a coach, which was his lifelong dream quote unquote.
So if your lifelong dream is a coach, you go coach.
You go coach at Memphis or something like Luke Walton.
But anyway, we had that whole thing and we all survived,
and now they'll be part of the engagement farming industry.
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Everything he does, everything he says, everybody hires every chivato
around the corner, watching everything you do everything. You think
it will be like that all all summer long, except
for the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We had the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That is right.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
We've got that to look forward to, which will be
awesome when it comes. But until then, we've got you
Petros and we've got the Lakers. And I've got to
ask you this because I think you'd agree, like this
was Lebron's higher that he wanted for head coach. Is
that fair to say?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And now you have claimed that you've been bent over
a barrel, not my words, those are your words. Do
you expect to get bent over a barrel as well?
By JJ Reddick? Well, there'll be two men bending you
and Matt money Smith over a barrel now for the
foreseeable future.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
It's not Matt money Smith and Hyatt who are being
forced against our will by Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's everybody. Everyone's being to bed over a barrel. Right.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
There's been a bunch of coopers who are like just
over time working to make enough barrels for us all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Over So are you saying Petris at your z and
not Marcellus in pulp fiction? Is that what you're saying?
You're just watching it happen.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
That's an interesting question. I don't feel like I'm being
nailed by the king, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't feel like the King is laboring over me
in the Victory Motel in Glendale.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (33:16):
But it feels like he's doing that to the entire
basketball globe, right, And I guess I'm sorry. It's a
little earlier than normal, so I'm a little foggy, and
I was up kind of late last night. But let
me try and make this as clear as possible. I
think about and I tried to make this analogy on
the show and it didn't work, but I'm gonna try
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it again. Think of like nineteen sixties nineteen seventies American
foreign influence right now, and think of the Lakers as
some weird South American or Central American country with leadership
(33:57):
that is somehow in limbo between communism and capitalism in
the sixties and seventies. So let's say the Lakers are
like Nicaragua. Okay, the puppet government installed by the CIA
is who Jj Reddick and Rob Polinka? Who's the CIA?
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Lebron fall No, yeah, and Lebron yes yeah, yes. So
we basically go through all these weird motions, acting like
there's been an election, acting like this is the will
of the public, acting like the Lakers went and did
their due diligence while trying to hire a head coach.
We sit there and talk about quote unquote installing an offense,
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sit there and talk about quote unquote player development, sit
there and talk about, you know, competing for a championship
and all these things, when really it's all just Lebron Lebron,
Lebron and whatever Lebron wants, and the fact that we're
all doing this and everybody sat there with a straight face,
and he said that he didn't talk to Lebron. And
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then they're gonna do this whole thing about Bronnie James.
You know, they're gonna they're gonna draft Bronnie James, and
they're gonna act like Lebron had nothing to do with it.
And the whole media is going to march, at least
the two three dozen people.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That are subjects of the King.
Speaker 11 (35:25):
They're going to do their thing and spin it that
way and talk about how JJ reddicks somehow pat Riley
or JJ reddicks this innovative basketball mind. If JJ Reddick
wanted to coach, you should have gone into coaching. But
he didn't have to to become the Laker head coach.
Why because Lebron had him installed. It's the most clear
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thing in the world. Yet it's almost too simple and
too upsetting and too defamatory to say, yes, this is
all Lebron's decision. Lebron is doing all of this. Lebron
is pulled all these strings. He's able to do it
with the Lakers because of their week leadership. He's able
to install a coach with absolutely no experience beyond coaching
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a fourth grade team, and they actually put that up
on the ticker, like beyond coaching youth basketball. It's like,
I mean, that's the same credentials as like half the
men in my neighborhood. For god sake, you know, it's
pretty amazing. And then we just all just say, hey,
this grade and oh, I love how he dropped an
f bob. Look at how irreverend he was. Oh, and
(36:31):
it's just like, wow, this was It was interesting, but
it was basically a foregone conclusion. It was something we've
been talking about for months. And if they really wanted
Danny Hurley, they weren't have low balled him.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Uh that's I guess. That's the part that I find
that I would almost have more respect and it wouldn't
bother me as much if Lebron just came out and said, yeah,
this is the guy that I wanted, and yes, I
did want them to draft my son. It's the fact
that the pretend game of well, no, none of that
is the case. His entire career, he's tried to dictate
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to the organization what he wants coaches, fired, players, traded
his entire career, like I don't like. I think a
lot of us if we had that sort of influence,
we'd probably want that sort of influence on certain things,
like I would. I don't mind that as much as
the whole the act of Oh, I don't.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Know, he in my face and tell me it's raised.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, like I don't, I don't get. And then you
watch after the press conference, JJ Reddick go and shake
hands with members of the media.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Oh, and they all go and kiss his ass and
a whole hold.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
Well, it's like when the president, It's like when the
State of the Union, and everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like this is supposed to be media and they're all
fanboys and fangirls.
Speaker 11 (37:45):
And laughing and shaking hands and lining up to shake
hands watch his balls. And while those two f bombs
were really poigned in the moment, JJ, Wow, that was awesome,
you know, And maybe he'll end up being a great coach.
Who's to say, like, he's definitely not a stupid guy.
I mean, he's definitely a guy that can communicate, and
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I'm sure that he knows basketball in a very complex
and real way. But even saying all that and let's
just say he was a real coach. Let's just say
he was a guy with a quote unquote offensive system.
What does that mean, by the way, I mean, you
just hand the ball to Lebron and do what Lebron says,
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what are your rotations? Whatever Lebron says, what do you
I mean, It's it's asinine that we have to go
through these motions as a media and I've resented it
since we started, and it will continue because they hired
a guy with no experience, So it'll be a story,
like I said, all summer long and into the season,
and you know, it's like the Lonzo Ball era or
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the end of the Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Contract, the last one.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
It's kind of like the Lakers will be relevant, but
they won't be relevant because they're good. They'll be relevant
because it's the Lakers and it's and it's a dumpster fire.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Is this a byproduct though, of how the league works?
I mean, the NBA is propped up, I guess as
I compare it to like the NFL. For example, we
can have someone like Tom Brady, who is the greatest
or has the greatest resume in NFL history. Is the
Goat retire and then someone immediately is stepping in behind
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him and Patch Mahomes to try to dethrone him, like
immediately right, and then maybe there's a little rivalry too
at the end of Tom's career with Patrick Mahomes coming on.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
But like the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Seems to continue to sustain and move forward and not
really have that hit of losing superstars, Like the NBA
differs where Lebron means that much to the NBA obviously
with the way they go about scheduling, the way they
go about the news of the off season, where he's
gonna be and everything that's propped up this NBA draft. Honestly,
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the biggest talking point of the NBA Draft has been
Bronnie James. And obviously it's a it's a byproduct of
Lebron James because maybe that impacts where he goes. But
I guess the question I'm getting to is, as much
as we want to bemoan about what Lebron has done
or hasn't done, Like, isn't that kind of just how
the NBA works, Like we kind of blame him, But
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like if we're going to compare him to Michael Jordan,
if Michael Jordan was doing this, would you have an
issue with it too if that was if his son,
you know, and he had the chance to play with
his son and all that.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, the son part. Yes, Michael Jordan did have
a son, you.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Know, but he didn't play it long enough and his
son didn't have you know what I'm saying to that
in Central Florida.
Speaker 11 (40:42):
He's probably a lot better at college at the end
of the day than Brony. No, I take your point.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Is it more of a byproduct of the NBA?
Speaker 11 (40:50):
Well, you're speaking of the individual superstar right nature of
the NBA. It's the model they built, like this is
what adam these guys. Well maybe, but look at I'm
i mean, the best thing to do with the Lakers
and figure out why they're in such tumult and why
it's been such an issue. And the COVID Championship that
everybody leans on is another weird talking point that everybody
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just say.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Boys, yeah, everybody just says and nobody believes.
Speaker 11 (41:16):
You know, and you can say the same thing about
even though it was in front of people, the Dodger
Championship when they won, and even though the city went
crazy like they did. They did much more so for
the Dodgers championship during COVID than when the Lakers won.
But that whole thing it rings kind of hollow to
people that hunger and crave for a real title and
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a real parade and all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So you look at that and say, well, maybe this
is how the NBA is. They cowtowed to Kobe.
Speaker 11 (41:50):
At the end of his career and kind of threw
the roster up in the air and threw their hands
up in the air and said whatever.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Fine.
Speaker 11 (41:57):
But juxtaposed that against what the Lakers number one rival.
The thing that makes this look even worse the fact
that the Celtics are doing what they're doing and how
did they do it. They've had disappointments, they've had set Max,
they had to fire their coach who was having an
affair or whatever with a hot mom some kind. But
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they have consistency. They have the same players, they have
the same system. Their role players know exactly what they're
supposed to do on any given night.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Their rotations are very consistent.
Speaker 11 (42:34):
Everybody has an idea of what's expected and from the
top all the way down, and it's the absolute opposite
of what the Lakers have, and the Celtics have superstars.
They have guys that are max contract, big time players,
and they've figured it out and they've figured out how
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to be there consistently.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
On the top of mountain for the last few years.
Speaker 11 (43:02):
Now there's a cyclical thing and saying this is their
time and you know.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
When this guy gets old, it's not going to be
that way.
Speaker 11 (43:09):
But you look at the Celtics and you say, well,
that's how you do it in modern times, or the
Nuggets or somebody like that. Keep the team together, keep
the coach there, keep the consistency. Everybody knows what they're
supposed to do. And that's kind of the opposite of
how the Lakers operate. And that goes without saying even
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Lebron couldn't argue that. So, yes, maybe it's a byproduct
of the modern NBA that if you get one of
these superstars, you end up being kind of in their
fiefdom until they decide to grace you with a retirement tour.
But it doesn't have to be that way. The Celtics
existence this year especially proves that it doesn't, and it
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makes it that much more bitter for the old Laker
guard that's used to you know, the Red ar Bach
versus Jerry Buss type of days as has been dramatized
to that show, they get really angry, not just because
the Lakers are so chaotic, but because the Celtics are
the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
In real time right now, meanwhile, Petro's Jim Harbaugh just
won a national job.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Oh I saw him. He was at the Little League
right by my house.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Okay, I was gonna ask you because it feels like
he's gotten a fraction of the coverage that JJ Redding
Scott and because of the kiss ass Laker media in
this town. So that being said, is he different? Have
you noticed any sort of a difference between him now
after the Michigan experience back when as opposed to before
when you used to talk with him and he used
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to come on and he used to call and try
and get interviews over at San Diego, Any difference with
Jim Harbaugh now that he's a national champion.
Speaker 11 (44:49):
He seems happy, right, I mean, at least in my opinion,
I've been around him twice now since he got the
Charger job, and he just seems publicly comfortable and enjoying life.
Enjoying living on the West Coast. I guess he lives
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where all the cool people live, Manhattan Beach, California, right,
And he had a big lipper in and he was
watching a Little League game the other day that I saw,
and it's it's refreshing. He's a real person, whether or not.
I mean it's I think it's really hard to compare
the coverage, because how much coverage of the Chargers ever
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get right?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
How much off season coverage to the Chargers get ever?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Is that because the Rams steal it? Is that more
of the organization.
Speaker 11 (45:38):
Nobody carries that either nobody talks about them either unless
Stafford's wife says something.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Else to Stafford.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, and like talk about the past, you know, relationship
stuff going on there.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
What a lovely lady, And my apologies to him.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Why would you bring that up because you think I
don't already hear Why you say that?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Because you think of yourself as the hero of the story.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
That's why, Like what good can come from telling that story?
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Was it her and Joe Cox or whatever he was?
Speaker 11 (46:06):
Joe Cox was the backup who's now the tight end
coach at Old Miss for Lane Kiffin, And you know
he's looking at the mirror right now if he still
has a full head of red hair, and he's going,
that's right, you.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Damn right, Joe Cox, j C.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Baby, Like, what good can come from that?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Brady? I don't know.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
I didn't play quarterback. I'm not good looking. I was
in a row with all black guys. You know, we
didn't have We didn't have like all this girl's gonna
date one of us, and then she's gonna date the
full back.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
You know.
Speaker 11 (46:45):
I think I'm gonna start out with the every down guy,
and then I'm gonna hook up with the third down guy,
the screen pass guy, the Texas raut guy.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
And the guy just on special teams. Where does he
get it? He's like someone of the special team.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Sell it? Yeah, he's way down the line, right.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
I mean, who dumps anybody for the special team? Sell it?
Speaker 11 (47:08):
Nobody the special team. Zell Its gets like a glass
eyed girl. You know, she eye and she's been through
the wars. You know, I don't know. To be honest, like,
let me, let's unpack this to start. First of all,
nobody covers the Chargers or the Rams because nobody cares
about them in town. They get national coverage, and they're
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great national brands and all that, But what's so sexy about, Hey,
Jim Harbaugh wants to run, you know, it's like, Okay,
we're gonna run the ball. What's so sexy about look
at this big, beautiful offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
That we drafted.
Speaker 11 (47:42):
I mean that it'll be sexy if they start winning
and he changes the culture there, and that that's one thing.
The Lakers are always a story month and a month out,
no matter what's happening, because well, they were such a
great franchise for all these years and now they're just
a dumpster fire again. I can't speak to the quarnerback
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room with like the one really good looking Brady Quinn type,
and whoever's behind him and who's dating who?
Speaker 4 (48:10):
I have no idea.
Speaker 11 (48:13):
Kelly Stafford is a confounding personality in this town and
all over the place, and she usually when she says
something dumb.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
She comes out and apologizes right away.
Speaker 11 (48:25):
Like remember last preseason she was talking about how the
none of the receivers or they're all all on their
phones and they won't talk to Matt Stafford and he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Know how to relate with these young players.
Speaker 11 (48:39):
And she had to come out like right away and
be like, guys, I made a really big mistake. I
said something she has had you know, she hasn't done
that this time, which is interesting. You know, maybe some
internal fighting or maybe a late night phone call from
joke hops. You've received to collect call from Joe Park
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Press one to except dude, it's cos there used to
be a coach at cal that that was the decordinator
that I committed to and then left in the middle
of the night and humiliated myself much like Stafford here
with his wife. And you know, it was like in
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the early days of voicemail, you know, where like, uh,
it would have that kind of if you'd like to
leave a message for and everybody's like trying to figure
it out. It's like nineteen ninety three and his phone
we used to call it all at all hours because
it was so funny. His name was Artie Gigantino, And uh,
it's like, if you'd like to leave a message for what,
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please press one? So anyway, you're receiving a collect call
from Oxford, Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I don't know. I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (50:12):
I got to be honest, I don't know. I don't
know what kind of conversation you have with your wife
when she comes home from doing And that wasn't even
her podcast. That was somebody else's podcast. That was Caitlin Bristow.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
She's not even making any money out of.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Some trash can chick from the Bachelor franchise?
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Is that the path? Is that?
Speaker 4 (50:31):
The path?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Like I meet people, They're like, oh, I was on
Bachelor Bachelor Season.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I'm like, is that what happens in Southern California? Like, no,
don't say no, because I've seen a lot of people
out there.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
They get asked to be on, they're on for like
a couple of episodes, they put it on their their
social media, then they try to get big on social
media from that. I'm a part of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I'm a part of it because they all want to
be on pms. They all want to be on with
Patrus's money when they back.
Speaker 11 (50:59):
They all want to be like Matt Liner with three
TikTok people in tow.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
I mean, what are we talking about.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
That's the same thing. That's what they do. They hire
TikTok people and they go tiktoking that's not how I
choose to live. I choose to live.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
I'm still in business. That I thought they were getting
shut down or something.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
I don't know. Ask Liner.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
I don't think he's following Congress and whether or not
they're going to shut down tips.
Speaker 11 (51:28):
I just don't know. Are you saying that Liner's not
up on current events.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
He's read the news on it, like I mean, I
think they've got six weeks.
Speaker 11 (51:36):
I know for a fact that first thing Liner does
is check all the sub stack stuff in the morning,
and then he hits up the Wall Street Journal, reads
the London Times. Linerd is the biggest and most sophisticated
media personality in the world. Oh man with a TikTok following.
All I'm saying is I just don't know. If you're
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Stafford and that podcast happens. You walk into the house
with the four little girls, It's like, you know, we
all went to college, we were all young at some point,
we were all in our twenties at some point. You know,
there's weird relationship overlap. People do this, People do that,
People find each other in interesting ways. But you have
what four little girls and you're on a podcast talking
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about how you dated the backup to piss them off. Yeah,
I mean what happens when you come home that night?
You know, heys, you get the uncrustables? You know, what
do you say?
Speaker 4 (52:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Anyway, another Caprice Son, Hey you do that Clayton Caitlin
Bristow podcast, Well you can get petros on TikTok at
Joe Cox, I believe is where you can find them
on TikTok if you want to get a hold of
all your fun stuff and la reporting there from the
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op on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
What if you're one of the tight ends in Joe Cox.
Speaker 11 (52:59):
What if you're like the hand in the ground, third
tight end that comes in on the goal line and
you're like, hey, coach, did you really hit that?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I mean, as you know from being in those scenarios,
you know exactly what you do the next morning after
that became public. If I was one of those, if
I was a quarterback on that team, I would have
printed off one hundred photos and plaster.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Them all around the tight end room.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Oh and just sobody what he walks in the It
walks into the tight end room like that's all he sees.
That's how football is like they we played jokes like that.
We give each other a hard time. That's just how
it works. Like that's probably what took place to some
degree there.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
So yeah.
Speaker 11 (53:37):
I mean I used to just get naked and put
a sheet on and run around the hallway screaming on
the hollow man. When the hollowman came out, I swear
I had a field day.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
I'm the hollow man.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Uh. Petros Papade gives. He's the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on A
five seventy Sports The Blowtorch. Also Fox college football analysts are.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
You've got to collect call Petro, you gotta collect call.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Oh, and I'm sorry I use the term dumpster fire twice.
Usually you know that's I'm just I'm a little foggy.
Speaker 11 (54:14):
That's all right, if you'd like to accept to click
call from.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Uh people will do it again.
Speaker 11 (54:25):
There'd be like a bat signal, like a phallic bat
signal in the sky, and Stafford'll look Stafford to look
through the Venetian blinds and see the Joe Cox signal
in the sky.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Uh be uh good stuff. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (54:42):
There he is.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Uh Petros Pavedek is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
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