July 10, 2024 • 53 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, we have boots on the ground for Big 12 Media Day. Jags owner Shad Khan puts his coach on the hot seat. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we're off and running.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
As Brady Quinn mentioned, he is live in Las Vegas,
boots on the ground, and we've got Big twelve Media Days.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, Brownni's out there too, by the way, you know,
say what's up to hing while you're there?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
In a coincidence, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
You know, I'm we had a little bit of everything
out here in Las Vegas right now.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Big twelve Media Days are going on right now. The
USA Basketball is here as well as the summer leagues,
so trust me, it is jam packed. Got to see
a bunch of different people last night. It was fun
though it was a really good day. It reminds you
just how big Vegas can be and yet host a
number of big events and with a ton of different
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people and you still don't see everyone like you still
feel like there's a bunch of different stuff going on.
It's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So with that being said, the big takeaway from Big
twelve Media Days, because we do have a little bit
from Brett Yormark, the Big twelve commissioner, who was there
kind of talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The situation with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I'll be honest with you, he got me a
little fired up here because he was letting everybody know.
While the Big Ten and the SEC get all the
love and everybody's a big fan of those two conferences,
here was the Big Twelve commissioner putting his chest out
and letting everybody know what the deal is with the
Big Twelve. We are truly a national conference in ten states,
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four time zones, and all eyes are now on the
Big Twelve for all the right reasons.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
And I think it's safe to say.
Speaker 8 (01:43):
We are more relevant now than ever before.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Damn right, we're talking about there.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Way to go.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Screw you Texas at Oklahoma. Let's make college football great
a game. Let's go man trying to keep up the times.
You know, everybody's moving, everybody's jocking for positioning to try
and you know, create these super conferences. And there he
is kind of standing on it and welcoming all these
new teams in and let everybody know they're kind of
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won a little bite of the apple here.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Good for him, you're there, ku what you got.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I was gonna say, say what you guys want. Brett
Yormark is to me the most progressive conference commissioner there is,
and I think he has to be given his role
within the Big twelve because it's not the Big Ten.
It's not the SEC which clearly have a strong stakehold,
given the brands that they've got, given the TV contracts
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that they have, you know, with their respective TV partners.
It's just not the same. And so he has to
think outside the box. And he has whether it's the
naming rights of the league itself, whether it's private equity,
all the things that he's done. But like being here
in Las Vegas, one of the things that it's a
clear difference at least from, for example, the PAC twelve,
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which still having its event today even though it's two
teams in Washington State and Oregon State, which we can
get to it another time, but they's just a clear
distinction between how things are run. I mean, the event
was flawless, the press conference, the way he answers questions,
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even tough questions. I mean, the biggest thing I take
away from all this is bigger picture college football. There's
definitely still more questions than answers, you know, when it
comes to realignment, when it comes to revenue share with
student athletes, how they look at it from a conference standpoint,
how they look at it from a school standpoint. All
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those things are still so undetermined and no one has
the answers yet. But I would say this, Brett Yormark
is one of the most thoughtful people about how it's
going to work. And I think he's going to be
a great person to lead the Big Twelve and figure
out where college football is going. I don't think there's
any doubt about it. When you talk to him, get
a sense of it. And I'll go as far as
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saying this, if he was the commissioner of the PAC twelve,
there would actually be a PAC twelve and you probably
would have seen not you know what's what happened to
the Big twelve as far as its expansion, bringing in
more teams that probably would have been in the PAC twelve.
Had he been that conference commissioner, you probably would have
seen the Big twelve decimated and the PAC twelve would
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have had all the growth all the teams come to
it had he been the commissioner there. So he has
done a tremendous job building up the Big Twelve. And
keeping it relevant amongst the Big ten and SEC, who
are the two biggest stakeholders.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
If that's If that's the case, then what happens to
the Big ten? Because the Big ten pillage the PAC twelve?
What happens to the Big ten? If if he goes
to the PAC twelve and pillages the big Big twelve?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
How would that? How would that play out?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And your estimate still seeing you probably would have still
seen you know, USC UCLA, you know, maybe would have gone,
and maybe those two other schools. But I'm saying you
don't see Utah migrate, Colorado migrate, Arizona State migrate, Arizona migrate.
Those four probably stay in the PAC twelve. You probably
get teams that he pulls from the Big twelve into
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the PAC twelve. You know, so right there you've got
six teams with other four staying, and he might even
you know, bring in another six or eight to make
a bit to make that conference. So they might have
still lost those teams regardless, just because at this point,
schools are going to do what they feel like is
in their best interest. You know, one of the hot
topics is always Florida State because it's it's not a secret.
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We know that they want to get out of the ACC.
It's just a matter of how. And I think the
way I see it is none of these schools wanted
to be a grant of rights issue. They'd like it
to be an optionality issue. I mean, there's there's not
something that has to go challenge the grant of rights
because in the ACC that thing's pretty iron clad and
it's in there for a long period of time. But
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they you know, there might be a challenge legally too.
Do they have the optionality they need to succeed and
to be able to compete? And if they don't, there
might be a case that they should be able to
be let out of the ACC of that conference for
that reason. And so that's gonna be the interesting thing
to keep an eye on moving forward.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
No, I'll go you got to go, Okay, Well, I
just wanted to say that, you know, somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Was the talk of Big twelve media days not named
Brady Quinn while they were there in Las Vegas, and
that was none other than Mike Gundhy, the Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
State head coach.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To little backstory here on the discussion here when it
comes to Mike Gundy, so Ollie Gordon, who's the best
running back in college football, won the Dope Walker last year,
was arrested for a DUI on June thirtieth, And yeah, so,
I mean he was celebrating your birthday and that's how
I got popped for the Dewey there on June thirtieth. So,
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you know, Mike Gundy wanted him to come to Big
twelve media days and kind of face the music little bit.
And Mike Gundy also talked about just sort of his
thinking when hearing about the news of one of his
best players getting the DUI just a couple of weeks
or a few weeks back.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
So I looked it up on my phone. What would
be the legal limit, like in Oklahoma's point eight and
Ollie was point one. So I looked it up and
it was based on body weight. Not to get into
the legal side of it, but I thought, really, two
or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what all
he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
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I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine. So
I got lucky. People get lucky. Allie made a decision
that he wished he could have done better. But when
I talked to Ollie, I told him, I said, you're
lucky you got out like because you make a lot
of money to play football. So back in the day,
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being able to cover the cost of what he's going
to go through would be difficult for a college player.
It's not for him. I'm not speaking for him, but
I'm just saying that's not an issue for him. So
nobody got hurt. I said, we see people doing this
and people losing their lives across the country, not just
football players but everybody. So you got out lucky.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So he then took the social media afterwards and put
my intended point today a big twelve media days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. I just think
he would being a little too honest when he probably
should have given a PC answer and nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Would have thought two things.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
That's a that'll though, that's notice.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I think this is this is twofold, all right. So
let me first say this, This is by design that
he brings Ali Gordon to the Big twelve many days
for starters. The guy won the Doak Walker last year
he led the nation rushing, so he is a leader
on that team. There's no doubt about it. I had
the chance to sit down with the young man. He's
a great kid, you know, he's a great young man.
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We really didn't talk much about the mistake, but he,
you know, talked about the fact that a I made
a mistake and wan own up for it and get
past it, because if you address it now, then after
this it really doesn't become anything other than just football
moving forward. So there's definitely something to that. I think,
you know, bringing him here after making the mistake is
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by design. To me, there's also brilliance in it because
most people take away from the Big twelve media day,
even having Ollie Gordon here with what is transpired was
Mike Gundy's comments. It's like the focus shifts on Mike
Gundy now because of what he says. And I don't
know if it's by design, if it's a tactic, but
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I think it's brilliant if it is the fact that
you say something that goes viral so much so that
instead of your player taking the heat, you end up
taking the attention and taking the heat, which I love,
you know, because That's the one thing that you'll hear
all the players, Alan Bowman, their quarterback who was there
as well yesterday, sporting quite the mustache. But you hear
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them talk about Mike Ketty as a father figure to them,
you know, how they look up to him, how he
does at times, you know, take take the bullets for them.
This is an instance of that, at least it's as
far as how he was trying to portray that. Look,
Ollie Gordon's not the only one who's fallen victim of this.
It doesn't make it right, But let's not all point
the figure and act like you haven't had two three
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four drinks Lee Lee, or you listening.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Lee ain't around two three or four Lee in the corners.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't you insult him like that?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know what I'll say super quickly to that is,
I don't feel like it was the best way of
presenting it. I don't I think why. I just didn't
think it was the best way of presenting it. But
but to that, but to that point, I think to
Q's point, the brilliance of it really is is that
what are all those writers going to do? What are
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all those coaches going to do? What are all those
people that are attending, you know, media day, what are
they going to do? Soon as they leave? They're going
to finish up their work and they're gonna go drink
and some may gamble that, some may do other things,
but more often than not, people are going to have
a cocktail or two or three or more. So I
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think the brilliance of it is is that the environment
that you're in, what cause like you're going to touch
that glass and you're gonna be like, you know what,
I shouldn't be judging this kid as hard as I
maybe was thinking I was going to judge this kid before,
I know, before I got here. And so the presentation
of that becomes more to me strategically placed because you
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know what it is. You know what time it is
when you go to Vegas. Second point I make is
super quick is the Big ten to me? And I
may be a tabit bias, but regardless of what the
Big twelve does, they're going, in my estimation, outside of
the staunch, you know, just tied into the Big twelve
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schools that are in in the in the conference. Outside
of that, I think I think they're going to play
third fiddle to how competitive. It's going to be in
the other two conferences that truly matter, which is the
ten and the SEC. I think the Big ten is
far and away. If it's going to be measured by viewing,
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audience and ratings and stuff like that, I think they're
going to run away with it this year. My humble estimation,
I think it's the Big ten in everybody else in
terms of the level of watching and wondering and entertainment
value of it. I think the ten they have it now,
what they do with it that that that remains to
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be seen, and I think that will be part of
the reason why a lot of people are watching. But
you know, the Big twelve is going to have to
say things and do things in a manner of which
they try to stay and continue relevant.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
At least they're trying.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Like the Pact let it get away, it was a
bag of and then you know the ACC you know,
is just kind of whatever, We'll figure it out, Clemson
and everybody else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And that's where you have to understand too, how the
PAC twelve fell apart. I mean, one of the best
things that berett Or Mark did when he first took
over as commissioner was he immediately realized that what could
happen to the PAC twelve could happen to the Big twelve,
and so he ripped up their agreement and redid it,
you know, right away, making sure that there is you know,
elements in there that allowed the schools to stay competitive.
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From a monetary standpoint, I mean, you know, they're not
getting quite as much from the their TV media rights,
so they have to find other ways of supplementing that.
And that's why you see a private equity infusion. That's
why you see the naming rights. You know, in the
end will be enough, you know, maybe not like we
don't know where this whole thing's going, but to your point,
they're trying. I mean, look at the ACC where you've
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got a number of schools, whether it's Florida State, Clemson,
there's more than that who are poking around, fishing around,
who are trying to leave to try to find greener
pastures elsewhere because just because an arms race and as
and really what's at the forefront and why that's so
important is because you are now going to have an
operating cost that you've never had before that's paying student athletes.
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You know that twenty some million because of the House
NCAA settlement is something that you're gonna have to pony
up to every single year, if not more moving forward,
and so you better be able to have the funds
to do so. And again that's where the Big Twelve
is much better position right now than you would have
said the two teams left in the Pac twelve or
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obviously the ACC as well right now. So you know,
as far as them playing third fiddle, of course, LeVar,
I mean, I think no one's no one's trying to
argue otherwise I wouldn't say this, though, I do think
the conference has as much parody as any conference, meaning,
you know, Utah is the favorite to win the Big
Twelve this year, and I'm really curious to see, like
as they enter into the league, how the way they
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run the football, the way they play defense, Cam rising
back for a seventh year, what that means for them.
But if you look from Utah to whoever you think
the bottom tier team is, you know, TCU went to
a National championship game two years ago. Last year they
really struggled and they've got a young team. They should
be better. You know, whoever you want to put in
that position, there's not as wide of a gap as
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I think you'd see, for example, in the Big Ten
and Ohio State or Penn State and Michigan versus like
Rutgers or or one of the Wesser teams, or whoever
you want to point to Vanderbilt and Georgia in the SEC.
I think it's a lot tighter, a lot more parity
of the Big Twelve.
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Speaker 2 (16:36):
Better know Heinz Allen, better better known as.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Josh Allen, the two time Pro Bowl defensive star for
the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Josh heines, Yes, he's changed his name.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He is. He has decided to change his name.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He's signing a tribute to the maternal side of his
family and other family members to have worn the same name.
But he has now changed his name from Josh Allen
to Josh Heinz Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And that's going to be what he's known as moving forward.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He's got a jersey swap coming up in September with
fans Jaguar fans who have his jersey, they're going to
be able to swap that out.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So there is all that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now, Listen, I know the family history, all that stuff
probably helped that. You know, there was another superstar in
the league named Josh Allen of the Bill. There you go, like,
maybe that was also part of the motivation. Do you
ever meet anybody named LeVar Arrington other.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Than I've met somebody named LeVar too. There was a
LeVar Fisher that played for North Carolina State. There was
a LeVar Woods that played for Iowa, and they both
played in the league too, and they were both linebackers.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Really, yeah, so I.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Have heard of I've never met a LeVar Erring. Well,
I take that back. I do know a LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
he's the second. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You ever meet a Brady Quinn?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'n't met a Brady Quinn. Yeah, I mean, I mean
I've met a Brady Quinn. You ever met a second
Brady Quinn? I don't think they exist, and if they do,
they don't care.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
There one hundred percent is there is a little quarterback
on the west coast of Florida right now. I think
it's like a freshman or sophomore. But he's a little stud.
His name is Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Little stud, and they probably named him after you, which
is interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I'm not gonna go as far as confirming it, but
I do know someone who knows him because they were
trying to put us in touch somehow. But he's he's
a good little player. Man, he's got a very bright future.
He's a freshman or sophomore over like maybe in Naples,
somewhere over in the West Coast.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, in Naples, First Baptist Academy, four point zero GPA.
How about that he's the number one twenty twenty eight
quarterback in the country QB hit List.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I've.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Got a quarterback coach on that side, and he sent
me some of his tape and I was like, dude,
this kid can sling it. He's a very good athlete too.
It is not just football.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's gonna be pretty humbling.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I have somebody named after you, and I had a
horse named after me once close as I got, I
believe a dog as well.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
What is the bigger compliment the horse of the dog?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, I'll say Sammy Huff named the horse, so I'll
say it's the horsepant.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I mean, if they'd be way more, I'd be way more.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I would be honored if an elephant wasn't, especially with
the latest videos that you guys have been circular in
the group chat, I mean I would be. There was
one yesterday where a kind of it was just hoestangling,
you know, just like know the Trump and and and
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then the other thing. And anyway, Leavar told me that
if he had a pet termite, he would name it
after me.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Well, we have a pet resident roach, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
They took care of that, he got it. Yeah, yeah,
you got cousins there everywhere. Listen, there's there's here, all right.
So here's the other portion of the Jacksonville Jaguars in
the news story. So we talked about this last week,
and it is Jacksonville Jaguar player everyone, and so we
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might have confused some people. So we were discussing how
shod Cohn had talked about, you know, just the injured
players and they need to do a better job, and
it felt like he was calling out the coaching staff
like it felt like he was letting everybody know, this
is an important year. We need to produce and have
a better performance than we had last year and go
back to what we did two years ago when we
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were a playoff team on a playoff game, et cetera.
And then this was posted on the team's official website
and it started making the rounds yesterday, which pretty much
confirms what we were kind of speculating last week or
the week before from Shod Cohn quote. I think there's
a seed change for us, and this is for our
coaching that they have to develop young players. Our solution
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isn't going to be where we're going to be signing
free agents every year. We don't have the ability. Bottom
line is that young talent has to be developed the coaching,
the coaching staff, their priorities have to change, their mindset
has to change. That's where we're going to get our
future players.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We cannot have this addiction to free agents. End quote
from Shod con So.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
That's quote, y'all tighten up real quick. On the other side, it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Is damn man, what when you removed from from the playoffs?
I mean they were they were in playoff contention going
into the final week of the season if I'm not mistaken,
and uh and they lost and then that's you know
how they ended up on the outside looking.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Let me ask you guys this, don't you think they
took I mean, to Shad Khan's point, Shod Khan, I'm
a shod Don't you think they took a significance enough
step back this past season for it to be this
type of feeling from the owner, like a lot of
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times we say the owners aren't aren't very sensible and
how they're approaching things. They have to be a little
bit more responsible and less hands on in some regards.
But isn't this one kind of warranted?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You mean the pressure on Doug Peterson, I.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Mean on if he's saying the whole staff. I mean,
what'd you say it is warranted in this scenario in particular?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yes, yes, it's the answer when you look at the
fact that they've joshu hein z Allen, how'll ever call him?
Between him and now looking at Trevor Lawrence that they
signed an extended both like both guys got the long
term deals. There's two of your pieces of your roster.
The facilities have been upgraded, the stadium is going to
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be upgraded. The last thing that they're looking at they
want to dump money into is the coaching staff, and
they spend money on free agency. It seems like at
this point Lea's hammered. It is just, oh gosh, he's
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on the hot seat.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
The show is at that point, shock gun, hey man,
you gotta messing around anymore?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Now, he's not talk I think they listened to that
on his yacht.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
They probably, do you have to Yeah, probably, that's his hype.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
That's his hype when he wats into when he watch
into the stadium, into the room, into the to the yacht.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, he's waxing his mustache and he just walks
in off the yacht. Chuck chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck of gun.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, chuck of gum.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Meanwhile, Dougie visors find himself on the hot seat, and
uh and if this doesn't go well, is he gonna
get a third shot?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Philly? A great question, jacksonvillttlet.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
A super Bowl? Yeah, good question, got a super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I mean definitely OC he definitely goes right into an
OC roll.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Wouldn't even want to be in o C. I mean,
general head coach, are you like, well, but.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
If you get fired from your second head coaching gig,
don't you take where the getting is good? I mean
you're able to read cycle through the league. I mean
you could go down a level and go get a
head coach and he could go get ahead coaching job
at the college level easily. But a lot of times
coaches that coach pro do not want to go backwards.
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That's considered a backwards move. I would say, if it
doesn't work out for him here, it's it's an O
C role and it's an OC role until he can
kind of clear himself of maybe what was the reasons
why it didn't work out in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
That's what I would offer.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, who would you say would be the decision maker
behind whether or not Doug Peterson is the coach moving
forward in jackson I think.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
The chuck of gun.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Oh, chuck a gun, Oh, chuck a gun.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Do you guys think that?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Do you think that he chuck chuck chuk chuck.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Chuck of gun, goes after, goes after Belichick?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hey, I think Brady brought that up. I think he
brought I think he brought it up that that could
be Atlantic.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
What is it full season?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Mid season?
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Is it either a full season or mid season?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't know. Well, I mean going after Doug Peterson.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
See here's my thing.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I mean, Lee is just so slow.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You go, chuck con Yeah, there you go. All right, Yeah,
just don't be surprised. And Brady made the call the
shot last week. Don't be surprised if Bill Belichick's phone
rings and he looks down at call her id and
it says Chuck.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Tuck Tuck, Chuck Chuck of con And then Bill Belichick
answers the phone. You say, Chuck Chuck Con.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I love it, but hey, get up, Hey, Dad, come
over here.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
You want to get on the phone. Hey, Hey, this
is my girlfriend and and and this.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Is uh chuck a con.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So it is time for the Wednesday traditions to continue
on here as we welcome in our guy, Petros Papadekas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you ye on the blowtorch.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
He Hello, college football analysts, Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Good morning?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Oh not much.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I'm gonna go to Las Vegas a little later today,
which is yes, we're going to miss each other, but
it looks it looks like my one trip a year
maybe to Las Vegas to listen to the problems of
some college football coaches and then hopefully god willing return
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home on Friday or Thursday and report back, and I
have my football magazines and I've been looking up my
football teams and trying to deal with where everybody transferred
and who's who and who's back, which is always fun
to see because so often everybody leaves these teams.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
So just getting ready for that. That's basically all I
have going on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean, with the PAC twelve gone, you know, coming gone,
I have a dinner with the package.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's actually yeah, it's actually still there.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Jokay, Well, I mean not really.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I mean, is it cool knowing that the PAC twelve,
you know who's going to participate in the PAC twelve ten,
you know who's going to be in the championship game already, right.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Nobody nobody gets after each other quite like the PAC two.
I mean, nobody competes with their opponent in conference like.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
The Promis champions. Yeah, so that that will be interesting.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
That's tonight at the Bellaggio's Bye bye bye. Have a
drink with the PAC two while you're there for the
Big twelve the Mountain West.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
So are they still call it the PAC twelve though?
I think so?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Is the Big twelve still the Big twelve? It's kind
of like twenty teams?
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Yeah, I know, but the ten right, Yeah, it's ever so,
I mean the ACC had a Coastal uh Division and
an Atlantic Division.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What's the difference between the two of those.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I don't know. And how is the Atlantic coast? Is
the coast right? Well?
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Now, what is the Atlantic coach any closed anywhere near
Dallas or Palo Alto?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah? From No. Would it have been worse if the
Pac twelve in this case, the two remaining teams just
didn't have a media day?
Speaker 9 (29:37):
He explain this, explain, well, I mean, how do we
have foot Look, we can't play footballs unless we have
a very awkward hotel meeting with a guy with like
with a with a player in his like ill fitting
suit that was his father's, you know, the sea it
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doesn't know how to tie a time, you know for
the tie polo that's my favorite, the tie like around
the polo neck.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You know that that works.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
This is essentially what I'm trying to point to you
was the fact that it feels a bit unnecessary for
a conference that is literally hanging out by a thread.
How do they really need do we really need to
draw attention to that by having a media day for
a conference that no longer has twelve teams, let alone two,
which doesn't really even substantiate the fact that you can't
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have a conference with two teams.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, couldn't you just do it at Whiskey Pets and
like save you the tree?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Wait a minute, First of all, no, isn't it pistol
Pizzang Last night, last time I was there was Whiskey
Pete Whiskey in Prim, Yes, right across the street from
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Then the roller coaster, the roller the now defunct.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Roller coaster, which was one of the most raucous roller
coaster rides in the history. It's like an old lady
pushed the button and you were off to your death.
Hang at the Buffalo Bills, remember that right in Prim.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Look, you guys can sit here and make fun of
the Pack two all you want.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I'm not making fun I'm asking a question. You are
making fun of the pack too. I bet you kidding him.
Name who's the coach of Washington State?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's an easy one.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
When Leech was the coach, that's a.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
That's messed up.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
If you asked the question, I'm just saying, who's the coach?
Jake Dicker, Jake Dicker. That's right, all right. Who's the
coach of Moreton.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
State now that Jonathan Smith left, now that.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
De coordinator took over.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
They Bray.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
Is Trent Bray.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Yeah, he was a mike backer there when I was
calling games. And his father, who's the DC at TCU,
Petrols the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, I think they fired him. They did.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
They hired someone else.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
No, I was supposed play this game with college football analysts.
Who's the coach here? Well, the head coach I can
do generally. The coordinators get a little more complicated. But
all I'm saying is the pack.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Boise State.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
That was my guy at Boise State.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He did not make it.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
To get.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I mean he was in the pack.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
It was easy.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Give you a former head coach, tried to get you
an easy.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
One, an easy one defensive coordinator TCU, that's Sunny Dykes's team.
They didn't played defense. All they need is three stops
a game, and they can't get him.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Dang, they can't get them.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
Well, the reason I asked about the Pac twelve coaches
is these are people that have not had a lot
of experience, especially with Bray. I mean Dickert's been around
a little while, but that's his first head coaching job.
He's never been anywhere else as a head coach. I mean,
how are they going to learn to talk to the
media unless we have a weirdward conversation in Las Vegas
about all their problems.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
So you have to do in Las Vegas? Could you
do it?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
We used to do it.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
No, we used to do it at the Airport Sheraton
in Los Angeles when men were men. Yeah, you know
when we when you go to a breakout room and
eat some stale crackers and talk to Chip Kelly about
playing quarterback at New Hampshire.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
That was That was real football.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
The reason I asked you who those coaches were is
just like they they need their attention. They've got to
find their way to you know, some kind of at least,
I mean, their pr people have to justify their jobs.
I'm showing up for this. It's important. Indeed, it's the
pack too, Brady. And the fact that you're leaving town
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before the pack to dinner and you don't know those
coaches speaks volumes.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Well, I haven't had the opportunity. I've spoken with Jake
dicker in the he's pretty have the opportunity. Yeah, he's
a nice guy.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Yeah, he comes from the North Dakota State kind of
coaching tree where a lot of people kind of come from.
And then Trent Bray is the other guy. And I'm
sure you talked to Andy Avlos today.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I did not have a chance to speak to anything.
Talked to Sonny.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
They didn't send the decordinator to Pac twelve, to Big
twelve media Day, they did not.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Anyway, this is college football analyst talk during the summer.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
We just sit around and talk about everybody's problems, and
the problems are multifold. I remember last year at the
last supper of the Pac twelve, which Brady was at.
At the last supper, right Brady at the it felt
like a funeral. Yes, it was the most interesting college
football dinner I've ever had, There's no doubt about that.
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And last year I remember sitting there talking to Justin
Willcox and he was like, he said something like, listen,
we could sit here all day and talk about each
other's problems, but we still have to play football this fall.
That's kind of what it's come to, you know, with
this transfer. We developed this guy and he left us.
We don't have any nil money or schedule sucks. We
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don't know where we're going to go. You know, I
think this college football offseason, there's just so much uncertain
about what the season is going to be like with
all these new alignments and affiliations, that it's just better
to get it kicked off and see how it plays
out as supposed to try to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Who are they going to like, how are they going
to determine what the success level of those two teams
are that are left, Like do they have a fear
opportunity to make it to the playoff? And how with
that is it based off of who they're playing, who
they're scheduled to play?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I mean, I guess they're just like I mean, I
think if they had a lot of success, like you know,
we're nine to oher or something like that, somewhere in
the middle of November or early November, there's gonna be
a lot of buzz.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
But I think both of those teams, both of those
schools are really just scrambling for survival at this point
and waiting for the next shoe to drop. And I
think that's the most important thing about this. I don't
know if Brady agrees. I'm not sure if you guys
think this is true. But I don't think we'll have
this model for very long, you know, I don't think
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we'll have you know, this Big ten, big weird, gargantuan,
Big twelve, and where the Mountain West is kind of
like the only real West Coast conference and that's very
odd because it's kind of a mid major conference.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So all of those things are really awkward.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
And we're still trying to figure out what this college
football arms race between the two TV networks looks like
in five six years, you know, SEC versus Big ten,
or ESPN versus Fox. Basically, so what happens in five
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or six years probably like a big giant super league
or something like that, and it's just.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Going to look less and less and less like college football.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
And that's kind of that's where we are though, because
of the amount of money that's being made and that
I mean, it's just a reality of when your sport
gets too popular. I guess this is what happens. It
gets carpet bagged and broken up and sold off. And
I think we're right in the middle of that process
and it's not very savory and it's upsetting. It's upsetting
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that Oregon State and Washington State are like floating programs.
It's weird that Ukon is an independent. You know, there's
all this stuff that still needs to be ironed out,
and not everybody's gonna survive. And I think that's an
interesting point LeVar that you make about Oregon State and
Washington State.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
What is their measure of success?
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Survival, irrelevance R getting people to talk about them, which
is why we have the PAC twelve drinks at the
Bolaggio tonight.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Sounds like you're excited.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
There's there's two to travel, Brady. I love it. I
love traveling.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Oh, there's two parts of this. You kind of said,
wait for the shoe drop to see what happens. I
think that's why they're in the position they're in is
nowadays you almost have to be kind of progressive with
your thinking in order to survive. Otherwise, if you wait, like,
there's no one out there with the safety net for you.
And I think that's probably what Washington State Oregon State thought.
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The PAC twelve and whether you want to go back
to Larry Scott, whoever for some of other schools are
who are part of the PAC twelve back then, that's
probably what they thought was gonna happen, like, well, we're good,
you know Cleave Cough or Larry's they've got us, like
our commissioner's got us. No, they don't, like you got
to look out for yourself.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
But well they found the university presented them and the
university president's Larry Scott, George clay Coff, Larry Scott and
the presidents. Really they created this vacuum of failure for
basically West Coast football. And to see it go away
the way it did, I mean we've talked about it,
we've belabored the point, we've talked about why it happened,
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how it happened, but it still is amazing to look
back on and say, wow, how did you screw this up?
Like you were not everybody else would forward thinking and
they were not, and they lost money to it bled
out and it became this, which sucks.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Well, the distribution was what killed it, right, I mean,
the PAT twelve network never worked. That was a bad.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Well yeah, but we can we can do forensics forever
I mean you can't have First of all, you can't
create your own TV network out of nothing when you
have no idea how to do it with no distribution
and no partner. You don't even have distribution in your
own regional footprint. I mean, it was it could watch
Arizona football, right, And then there were like multiple opportunities
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to say the thing while they were failing, and they.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Couldn't save that.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
And even Kleekoff had an opportunity to save it with
ESPN or Apple when when SC and UCLA left and
he still couldn't do it. So it's a massive failure
and it's sad for those of us on the West
Coast that grew up with the conference.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
But now you know, picking up the pieces is where
everybody is joy and it.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Brings me to the next part of it. Like you
talked about the future model, and the interesting thing is
just being here as part of the Big twelve and
what they've had some of the conversations for last night
that you know, we're probably not gonna be in this
model for very long. And what's gonna probably expedite even
more realignment or changes is the revenue sharing. Is there's
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gonna be certain schools that, unfortunately because of the twenty
or so million and operating costs that they haven't had before,
because they now have to pay student athletes, there's gonna
be some that have to cut other sports programs have
to figure out how to make that work within their budget.
And I think what's what you pointed to was the
university presidents. A lot of people don't know this. There's
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a there's in some cases a big divide between the
academic side of an institution and the athletic side. And
oftentimes the schools that seem to have no issue those
two sides work hand in hand. There's a lot of
institutions where that's not the case. And I think those
are the schools that could be in trouble because the
president or the academic side doesn't see the value in,
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you know, having a successful football program and not you know,
just because we mentioned Sunny Dike's go back and look
at the success they had after going to the national
championship as far as enrollment and applications everything else for
their admissions. Oh yeah, go look at Colorado. Last year,
Colorado the same thing. They have an increase like seventy percent.
I mean because in.
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Weird situations like Mike Riley's tenure in Oregon State, like
sure that the enrollment gained by twenty thousand or something
and the school became more popular. You're absolutely right, and
it's a very interesting thing. I mean, even my alma mater, USC,
which is supposed to be a blue blood and this
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giant college football operation, really when you pick up the
curtain and look behind it, it's not.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
And they're struggling to act like one of the big boys, right.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
They've really tried to find that lane to be like
Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, LSU.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
But they have a different situation and they're not. And
what it is is exactly what you mentioned.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
The university president, the board of trustees, the AD and
the head coach have all got to be on the
same page. That's why Oklahoma works so well for so
long under Bob Stoops because they all had the right
people in place to try to keep the thing going.
And if you don't really have that, and look, they
didn't have that at Michigan and they lost home or
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bah over it, right, I mean he left. I mean
there's a lot that happened, but they didn't have solidarity
between the ad and the president.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
If you don't have that, it's really hard to have
a successful college football.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Program now in today's day and age, where the rubbers
meeting the road, and we are no longer allowed to
have this billion dollar football team, weird industry inside of
our institutions of higher education, so seamlessly without asking questions like, hey,
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what are we doing, how does this work? How do
we pay the players? How does this structure work? We
had it pretty good for a long time in our
weird little college football fantasy world, but there's just too
much money being made now and the whole thing's being
torn apart and rebuilt, and it's kind of interesting. I
guess you could say we did the same thing with
the rules to the game. You know, in the last
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twenty years since I've been calling games, you know, a
lot of the stuff we used to do and just
play no longer legal, and we've had to adjust to that.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
And I guess if you like.
Speaker 9 (44:03):
This sport, you really do have to adjust to change
year and in, year out, because otherwise you're just gonna
end up frustrated.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Like me, Patris, we talked, you know, we're joking about
the PAC twelve pack two, you know, having their you know,
their media days at a David I have a drink,
David Busters whatever, like whatever works for you. But so
the but the my question for you is, this is
a conference that's in your family.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Like coach Pray, move over. I want to spot on
that space harrier machine.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Right, we're trying to play Golden tea and you can
step aside, please, But you so, this is a conference
that's in your family, It's in your blood. You like,
obviously you played there, your father played there in the conference.
When did you guys sense that, Oh god, this is
all gone by bye, Like like there was a turn
and it no longer was as respected or run the
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way that it should have been run. When you guys
knew it and what you grew up with, when did
you sense it?
Speaker 9 (45:03):
I was at the PAC twelve media day or not
media day. I was at the PAC twelve Championship. I
called the game with Brady. I was a sideline guy
from one of the sidelines.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
It was that one. It was really kind of a
boring game.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
It was is it Washington, Colorado? No, Washington, Utah? Okay?
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Remember that?
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah, defensive battle, of course, a defensive battle.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Yeah, And I remember like, and I was with Joe
Davis on the plane ride home, and like I was
looking at Twitter and somebody was like.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Wow, what a you know, what a boring call by
Joe Davis.
Speaker 9 (45:38):
And I was like, don't take on Twitter and Joe Davis,
I was like, don't take the bait, Joe, don't take
the bait.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
And then I saw his tweet.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
How would you have liked me to call it?
Speaker 9 (45:47):
There was not much happening, but I remember being there
and they would do like a state of the state
at the PAC twelve championship, like Larry Scott would do
one of the like the Super Bowl kind of you
know where Roger Goodell gives a speech about the state
of the NFL.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
And I remember Larry Scott.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
They were like five years into the most crippling deal
in the history of college football. While they're hemorrhaging out
money and everybody else is stacking chips, and Larry Scott's like,
We're in a great negotiating space for twenty twenty three,
twenty seventeen eight or something. It's just like, dude, by
twenty twenty three, you're gonna be the Mountain West, and really,
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ultimately that is what happened. You just kind of saw
that everybody else was when everybody else was making a
ton of money and these networks like the Big ten
network were flourishing, the PAC twelve network was going in
the absolute opposite direction. And you could see that from
year one. So I guess that's when I saw it.
To answer your question, can I tell you the other
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time you might have seen it? Do you remember the
pactual media days.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
They gave the best gifts at the dinner, and I
feel like the first year it might have been an
iPad or something. It was like, whoa, wow, this is
like a really nice gift, and then it slowly went downhill.
It was a long last year was well last year was,
but the year before that, like the last year they
had in LA I can't quite recall what it was,
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but that was the thing. It was. It was very
forgettable and well they would do this.
Speaker 9 (47:21):
They do these media days on like Hollywood Boulevard and
it's like, you know, with the cracked out Spider Man
and like seven Jack Sparrows and just the dregs of society,
you know, and it's like and.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Michael Bercovici walking down the street. It's like, what are
we doing?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
You know what?
Speaker 9 (47:39):
Whoa you know what I mean, it it never made sense.
You know, we're gonna we're gonna embrace Hollywood, We're gonna
go to the Sony Lot, We're gonna go We're gonna
make the media drive around West Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
It's like, dude, they they just never had it figured out.
Speaker 9 (47:55):
It started to feel like they had a little momentum
when they started to kind of move some of their stuff.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
To Lats Vega, but it was never going to work
with that TV deal.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
And it sucks.
Speaker 9 (48:05):
It sucks for it sucks for everybody because you look
at the conference, the PAC twelve conference last year, and yeah,
Washington they want to they want a playoff game and
they lost in the championship.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
But they had a great year.
Speaker 9 (48:18):
I mean, Bo Nicks, Panics, Caleb Williams, I mean whatever
was happening in Colorado, which was interesting. I mean the
conference was an absolute joy last year and it was,
you know, just like kind of a sunset. That was it,
and it to pick up the pieces will be interesting.
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We'll see what it's like tonight at the PAC. Two
drinks for two.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Oh yeah, you think it's just gonna be.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Me and John Canzano staring at each other.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Probably I was gonna say, what's the how many people
you think will be in attendance?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
How many media members? What are we looking at over under.
Speaker 6 (48:56):
Of like I mean me, Johnny cans Wilner.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I don't know. That's fine as long as you're.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
There, maybe the voice of the bees.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Fair well, Patros, have a good time. I have a
couple of cocktails in our honor.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
And do you guys see Violet Affleck.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Uh? I actually saw that, Yes, I saw that. What
is it? It's it's interesting, Violet Affleck. She's calling for
what like UV light war filtered masks and all that,
and government facilities or something.
Speaker 6 (49:36):
UV lights, some kind of air filtration.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And masks mass interesting.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
I thought it was a movie or a TV show
or something.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
It seemed like it.
Speaker 7 (49:47):
Okay, Uh, I'll.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Keep my comments to myself.
Speaker 9 (49:51):
No, I just I just loved her breathy delivery reminds
me of my of how I try to like pull
it together in the morning.
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Here breathy, pull out the Violet.
Speaker 9 (50:03):
Affleck real quick before before I leave you guys, figure,
I want to hear her breathy. This is going to
be me talking to talking about Brady and Andy Alos
and uh Trent Bray and Jake Dickard tonight.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
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you know, you know, other stuff going on. We got
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We have a do we have an opportunity to do
this or are we going to get ready to get
in trouble here?
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Come on, that was definitely that.
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I mean, does she have like a time limit, Like,
I don't get what she's talking so fast?
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Her mother? She was taking deep breaths.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
What, of course Lee was at a wedding with Jennifer Garner.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
Yes, he was.
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She was sitting behind me the whole time.
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So instead of finding the sound, you just figured you'd
open your mind to ask the questions about Jennifer Garner
at the wedding.
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What was she like Lee?
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I heard she's a lovely lady.
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She was very nice. She was very nice. She split
right after the ceremony, fantastic.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we're off and running.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
As Brady Quinn mentioned, he is live in Las Vegas,
boots on the ground, and we've got Big twelve Media Days.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, Brownni's out there too, by the way, you know,
say what's up to hing while you're there?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
In a coincidence, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
You know, I'm we had a little bit of everything
out here in Las Vegas right now.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Big twelve Media Days are going on right now. The
USA Basketball is here as well as the summer leagues,
so trust me, it is jam packed. Got to see
a bunch of different people last night. It was fun
though it was a really good day. It reminds you
just how big Vegas can be and yet host a
number of big events and with a ton of different
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people and you still don't see everyone like you still
feel like there's a bunch of different stuff going on.
It's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So with that being said, the big takeaway from Big
twelve Media Days, because we do have a little bit
from Brett Yormark, the Big twelve commissioner, who was there
kind of talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The situation with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I'll be honest with you, he got me a
little fired up here because he was letting everybody know.
While the Big Ten and the SEC get all the
love and everybody's a big fan of those two conferences,
here was the Big Twelve commissioner putting his chest out
and letting everybody know what the deal is with the
Big Twelve. We are truly a national conference in ten states,
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four time zones, and all eyes are now on the
Big Twelve for all the right reasons.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
And I think it's safe to say.
Speaker 8 (01:43):
We are more relevant now than ever before.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Damn right, we're talking about there.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Way to go.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Screw you Texas at Oklahoma. Let's make college football great
a game. Let's go man trying to keep up the times.
You know, everybody's moving, everybody's jocking for positioning to try
and you know, create these super conferences. And there he
is kind of standing on it and welcoming all these
new teams in and let everybody know they're kind of
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won a little bite of the apple here.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Good for him, you're there, ku what you got.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I was gonna say, say what you guys want. Brett
Yormark is to me the most progressive conference commissioner there is,
and I think he has to be given his role
within the Big twelve because it's not the Big Ten.
It's not the SEC which clearly have a strong stakehold,
given the brands that they've got, given the TV contracts
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that they have, you know, with their respective TV partners.
It's just not the same. And so he has to
think outside the box. And he has whether it's the
naming rights of the league itself, whether it's private equity,
all the things that he's done. But like being here
in Las Vegas, one of the things that it's a
clear difference at least from, for example, the PAC twelve,
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which still having its event today even though it's two
teams in Washington State and Oregon State, which we can
get to it another time, but they's just a clear
distinction between how things are run. I mean, the event
was flawless, the press conference, the way he answers questions,
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even tough questions. I mean, the biggest thing I take
away from all this is bigger picture college football. There's
definitely still more questions than answers, you know, when it
comes to realignment, when it comes to revenue share with
student athletes, how they look at it from a conference standpoint,
how they look at it from a school standpoint. All
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those things are still so undetermined and no one has
the answers yet. But I would say this, Brett Yormark
is one of the most thoughtful people about how it's
going to work. And I think he's going to be
a great person to lead the Big Twelve and figure
out where college football is going. I don't think there's
any doubt about it. When you talk to him, get
a sense of it. And I'll go as far as
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saying this, if he was the commissioner of the PAC twelve,
there would actually be a PAC twelve and you probably
would have seen not you know what's what happened to
the Big twelve as far as its expansion, bringing in
more teams that probably would have been in the PAC twelve.
Had he been that conference commissioner, you probably would have
seen the Big twelve decimated and the PAC twelve would
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have had all the growth all the teams come to
it had he been the commissioner there. So he has
done a tremendous job building up the Big Twelve. And
keeping it relevant amongst the Big ten and SEC, who
are the two biggest stakeholders.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
If that's If that's the case, then what happens to
the Big ten? Because the Big ten pillage the PAC twelve?
What happens to the Big ten? If if he goes
to the PAC twelve and pillages the big Big twelve?
Speaker 7 (04:48):
How would that? How would that play out?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And your estimate still seeing you probably would have still
seen you know, USC UCLA, you know, maybe would have gone,
and maybe those two other schools. But I'm saying you
don't see Utah migrate, Colorado migrate, Arizona State migrate, Arizona migrate.
Those four probably stay in the PAC twelve. You probably
get teams that he pulls from the Big twelve into
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the PAC twelve. You know, so right there you've got
six teams with other four staying, and he might even
you know, bring in another six or eight to make
a bit to make that conference. So they might have
still lost those teams regardless, just because at this point,
schools are going to do what they feel like is
in their best interest. You know, one of the hot
topics is always Florida State because it's it's not a secret.
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We know that they want to get out of the ACC.
It's just a matter of how. And I think the
way I see it is none of these schools wanted
to be a grant of rights issue. They'd like it
to be an optionality issue. I mean, there's there's not
something that has to go challenge the grant of rights
because in the ACC that thing's pretty iron clad and
it's in there for a long period of time. But
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they you know, there might be a challenge legally too.
Do they have the optionality they need to succeed and
to be able to compete? And if they don't, there
might be a case that they should be able to
be let out of the ACC of that conference for
that reason. And so that's gonna be the interesting thing
to keep an eye on moving forward.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
No, I'll go you got to go, Okay, Well, I
just wanted to say that, you know, somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Was the talk of Big twelve media days not named
Brady Quinn while they were there in Las Vegas, and
that was none other than Mike Gundhy, the Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
State head coach.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To little backstory here on the discussion here when it
comes to Mike Gundy, so Ollie Gordon, who's the best
running back in college football, won the Dope Walker last year,
was arrested for a DUI on June thirtieth, And yeah, so,
I mean he was celebrating your birthday and that's how
I got popped for the Dewey there on June thirtieth. So,
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you know, Mike Gundy wanted him to come to Big
twelve media days and kind of face the music little bit.
And Mike Gundy also talked about just sort of his
thinking when hearing about the news of one of his
best players getting the DUI just a couple of weeks
or a few weeks back.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
So I looked it up on my phone. What would
be the legal limit, like in Oklahoma's point eight and
Ollie was point one. So I looked it up and
it was based on body weight. Not to get into
the legal side of it, but I thought, really, two
or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what all
he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
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I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine. So
I got lucky. People get lucky. Allie made a decision
that he wished he could have done better. But when
I talked to Ollie, I told him, I said, you're
lucky you got out like because you make a lot
of money to play football. So back in the day,
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being able to cover the cost of what he's going
to go through would be difficult for a college player.
It's not for him. I'm not speaking for him, but
I'm just saying that's not an issue for him. So
nobody got hurt. I said, we see people doing this
and people losing their lives across the country, not just
football players but everybody. So you got out lucky.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So he then took the social media afterwards and put
my intended point today a big twelve media days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. I just think
he would being a little too honest when he probably
should have given a PC answer and nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Would have thought two things.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
That's a that'll though, that's notice.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I think this is this is twofold, all right. So
let me first say this, This is by design that
he brings Ali Gordon to the Big twelve many days
for starters. The guy won the Doak Walker last year
he led the nation rushing, so he is a leader
on that team. There's no doubt about it. I had
the chance to sit down with the young man. He's
a great kid, you know, he's a great young man.
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We really didn't talk much about the mistake, but he,
you know, talked about the fact that a I made
a mistake and wan own up for it and get
past it, because if you address it now, then after
this it really doesn't become anything other than just football
moving forward. So there's definitely something to that. I think,
you know, bringing him here after making the mistake is
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by design. To me, there's also brilliance in it because
most people take away from the Big twelve media day,
even having Ollie Gordon here with what is transpired was
Mike Gundy's comments. It's like the focus shifts on Mike
Gundy now because of what he says. And I don't
know if it's by design, if it's a tactic, but
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I think it's brilliant if it is the fact that
you say something that goes viral so much so that
instead of your player taking the heat, you end up
taking the attention and taking the heat, which I love,
you know, because That's the one thing that you'll hear
all the players, Alan Bowman, their quarterback who was there
as well yesterday, sporting quite the mustache. But you hear
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them talk about Mike Ketty as a father figure to them,
you know, how they look up to him, how he
does at times, you know, take take the bullets for them.
This is an instance of that, at least it's as
far as how he was trying to portray that. Look,
Ollie Gordon's not the only one who's fallen victim of this.
It doesn't make it right, But let's not all point
the figure and act like you haven't had two three
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four drinks Lee Lee, or you listening.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Lee ain't around two three or four Lee in the corners.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't you insult him like that?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know what I'll say super quickly to that is,
I don't feel like it was the best way of
presenting it. I don't I think why. I just didn't
think it was the best way of presenting it. But
but to that, but to that point, I think to
Q's point, the brilliance of it really is is that
what are all those writers going to do? What are
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all those coaches going to do? What are all those
people that are attending, you know, media day, what are
they going to do? Soon as they leave? They're going
to finish up their work and they're gonna go drink
and some may gamble that, some may do other things,
but more often than not, people are going to have
a cocktail or two or three or more. So I
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think the brilliance of it is is that the environment
that you're in, what cause like you're going to touch
that glass and you're gonna be like, you know what,
I shouldn't be judging this kid as hard as I
maybe was thinking I was going to judge this kid before,
I know, before I got here. And so the presentation
of that becomes more to me strategically placed because you
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know what it is. You know what time it is
when you go to Vegas. Second point I make is
super quick is the Big ten to me? And I
may be a tabit bias, but regardless of what the
Big twelve does, they're going, in my estimation, outside of
the staunch, you know, just tied into the Big twelve
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schools that are in in the in the conference. Outside
of that, I think I think they're going to play
third fiddle to how competitive. It's going to be in
the other two conferences that truly matter, which is the
ten and the SEC. I think the Big ten is
far and away. If it's going to be measured by viewing,
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audience and ratings and stuff like that, I think they're
going to run away with it this year. My humble estimation,
I think it's the Big ten in everybody else in
terms of the level of watching and wondering and entertainment
value of it. I think the ten they have it now,
what they do with it that that that remains to
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be seen, and I think that will be part of
the reason why a lot of people are watching. But
you know, the Big twelve is going to have to
say things and do things in a manner of which
they try to stay and continue relevant.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
At least they're trying.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Like the Pact let it get away, it was a
bag of and then you know the ACC you know,
is just kind of whatever, We'll figure it out, Clemson
and everybody else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And that's where you have to understand too, how the
PAC twelve fell apart. I mean, one of the best
things that berett Or Mark did when he first took
over as commissioner was he immediately realized that what could
happen to the PAC twelve could happen to the Big twelve,
and so he ripped up their agreement and redid it,
you know, right away, making sure that there is you know,
elements in there that allowed the schools to stay competitive.
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From a monetary standpoint, I mean, you know, they're not
getting quite as much from the their TV media rights,
so they have to find other ways of supplementing that.
And that's why you see a private equity infusion. That's
why you see the naming rights. You know, in the
end will be enough, you know, maybe not like we
don't know where this whole thing's going, but to your point,
they're trying. I mean, look at the ACC where you've
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got a number of schools, whether it's Florida State, Clemson,
there's more than that who are poking around, fishing around,
who are trying to leave to try to find greener
pastures elsewhere because just because an arms race and as
and really what's at the forefront and why that's so
important is because you are now going to have an
operating cost that you've never had before that's paying student athletes.
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You know that twenty some million because of the House
NCAA settlement is something that you're gonna have to pony
up to every single year, if not more moving forward,
and so you better be able to have the funds
to do so. And again that's where the Big Twelve
is much better position right now than you would have
said the two teams left in the Pac twelve or
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obviously the ACC as well right now. So you know,
as far as them playing third fiddle, of course, LeVar,
I mean, I think no one's no one's trying to
argue otherwise I wouldn't say this, though, I do think
the conference has as much parody as any conference, meaning,
you know, Utah is the favorite to win the Big
Twelve this year, and I'm really curious to see, like
as they enter into the league, how the way they
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run the football, the way they play defense, Cam rising
back for a seventh year, what that means for them.
But if you look from Utah to whoever you think
the bottom tier team is, you know, TCU went to
a National championship game two years ago. Last year they
really struggled and they've got a young team. They should
be better. You know, whoever you want to put in
that position, there's not as wide of a gap as
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I think you'd see, for example, in the Big Ten
and Ohio State or Penn State and Michigan versus like
Rutgers or or one of the Wesser teams, or whoever
you want to point to Vanderbilt and Georgia in the SEC.
I think it's a lot tighter, a lot more parity
of the Big Twelve.
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Speaker 2 (16:36):
Better know Heinz Allen, better better known as.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Josh Allen, the two time Pro Bowl defensive star for
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Speaker 4 (16:48):
Josh heines, Yes, he's changed his name.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He is. He has decided to change his name.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He's signing a tribute to the maternal side of his
family and other family members to have worn the same name.
But he has now changed his name from Josh Allen
to Josh Heinz Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And that's going to be what he's known as moving forward.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He's got a jersey swap coming up in September with
fans Jaguar fans who have his jersey, they're going to
be able to swap that out.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So there is all that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now, Listen, I know the family history, all that stuff
probably helped that. You know, there was another superstar in
the league named Josh Allen of the Bill. There you go, like,
maybe that was also part of the motivation. Do you
ever meet anybody named LeVar Arrington other.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Than I've met somebody named LeVar too. There was a
LeVar Fisher that played for North Carolina State. There was
a LeVar Woods that played for Iowa, and they both
played in the league too, and they were both linebackers.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Really, yeah, so I.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Have heard of I've never met a LeVar Erring. Well,
I take that back. I do know a LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
he's the second. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You ever meet a Brady Quinn?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'n't met a Brady Quinn. Yeah, I mean, I mean
I've met a Brady Quinn. You ever met a second
Brady Quinn? I don't think they exist, and if they do,
they don't care.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
There one hundred percent is there is a little quarterback
on the west coast of Florida right now. I think
it's like a freshman or sophomore. But he's a little stud.
His name is Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Little stud, and they probably named him after you, which
is interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I'm not gonna go as far as confirming it, but
I do know someone who knows him because they were
trying to put us in touch somehow. But he's he's
a good little player. Man, he's got a very bright future.
He's a freshman or sophomore over like maybe in Naples,
somewhere over in the West Coast.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, in Naples, First Baptist Academy, four point zero GPA.
How about that he's the number one twenty twenty eight
quarterback in the country QB hit List.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I've.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Got a quarterback coach on that side, and he sent
me some of his tape and I was like, dude,
this kid can sling it. He's a very good athlete too.
It is not just football.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's gonna be pretty humbling.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I have somebody named after you, and I had a
horse named after me once close as I got, I
believe a dog as well.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
What is the bigger compliment the horse of the dog?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, I'll say Sammy Huff named the horse, so I'll
say it's the horsepant.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I mean, if they'd be way more, I'd be way more.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I would be honored if an elephant wasn't, especially with
the latest videos that you guys have been circular in
the group chat, I mean I would be. There was
one yesterday where a kind of it was just hoestangling,
you know, just like know the Trump and and and
(20:02):
then the other thing. And anyway, Leavar told me that
if he had a pet termite, he would name it
after me.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Well, we have a pet resident roach, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
They took care of that, he got it. Yeah, yeah,
you got cousins there everywhere. Listen, there's there's here, all right.
So here's the other portion of the Jacksonville Jaguars in
the news story. So we talked about this last week,
and it is Jacksonville Jaguar player everyone, and so we
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might have confused some people. So we were discussing how
shod Cohn had talked about, you know, just the injured
players and they need to do a better job, and
it felt like he was calling out the coaching staff
like it felt like he was letting everybody know, this
is an important year. We need to produce and have
a better performance than we had last year and go
back to what we did two years ago when we
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were a playoff team on a playoff game, et cetera.
And then this was posted on the team's official website
and it started making the rounds yesterday, which pretty much
confirms what we were kind of speculating last week or
the week before from Shod Cohn quote. I think there's
a seed change for us, and this is for our
coaching that they have to develop young players. Our solution
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isn't going to be where we're going to be signing
free agents every year. We don't have the ability. Bottom
line is that young talent has to be developed the coaching,
the coaching staff, their priorities have to change, their mindset
has to change. That's where we're going to get our
future players.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We cannot have this addiction to free agents. End quote
from Shod con So.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
That's quote, y'all tighten up real quick. On the other side, it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Is damn man, what when you removed from from the playoffs?
I mean they were they were in playoff contention going
into the final week of the season if I'm not mistaken,
and uh and they lost and then that's you know
how they ended up on the outside looking.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Let me ask you guys this, don't you think they
took I mean, to Shad Khan's point, Shod Khan, I'm
a shod Don't you think they took a significance enough
step back this past season for it to be this
type of feeling from the owner, like a lot of
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times we say the owners aren't aren't very sensible and
how they're approaching things. They have to be a little
bit more responsible and less hands on in some regards.
But isn't this one kind of warranted?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You mean the pressure on Doug Peterson, I.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Mean on if he's saying the whole staff. I mean,
what'd you say it is warranted in this scenario in particular?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yes, yes, it's the answer when you look at the
fact that they've joshu hein z Allen, how'll ever call him?
Between him and now looking at Trevor Lawrence that they
signed an extended both like both guys got the long
term deals. There's two of your pieces of your roster.
The facilities have been upgraded, the stadium is going to
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be upgraded. The last thing that they're looking at they
want to dump money into is the coaching staff, and
they spend money on free agency. It seems like at
this point Lea's hammered. It is just, oh gosh, he's
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on the hot seat.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
The show is at that point, shock gun, hey man,
you gotta messing around anymore?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Now, he's not talk I think they listened to that
on his yacht.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
They probably, do you have to Yeah, probably, that's his hype.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
That's his hype when he wats into when he watch
into the stadium, into the room, into the to the yacht.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, he's waxing his mustache and he just walks
in off the yacht. Chuck chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck of gun.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, chuck of gum.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Meanwhile, Dougie visors find himself on the hot seat, and
uh and if this doesn't go well, is he gonna
get a third shot?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Philly? A great question, jacksonvillttlet.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
A super Bowl? Yeah, good question, got a super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I mean definitely OC he definitely goes right into an
OC roll.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Wouldn't even want to be in o C. I mean,
general head coach, are you like, well, but.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
If you get fired from your second head coaching gig,
don't you take where the getting is good? I mean
you're able to read cycle through the league. I mean
you could go down a level and go get a
head coach and he could go get ahead coaching job
at the college level easily. But a lot of times
coaches that coach pro do not want to go backwards.
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That's considered a backwards move. I would say, if it
doesn't work out for him here, it's it's an O
C role and it's an OC role until he can
kind of clear himself of maybe what was the reasons
why it didn't work out in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
That's what I would offer.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, who would you say would be the decision maker
behind whether or not Doug Peterson is the coach moving
forward in jackson I think.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
The chuck of gun.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Oh, chuck a gun, Oh, chuck a gun.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Do you guys think that?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Do you think that he chuck chuck chuk chuck.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Chuck of gun, goes after, goes after Belichick?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hey, I think Brady brought that up. I think he
brought I think he brought it up that that could
be Atlantic.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
What is it full season?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Mid season?
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Is it either a full season or mid season?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't know. Well, I mean going after Doug Peterson.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
See here's my thing.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I mean, Lee is just so slow.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You go, chuck con Yeah, there you go. All right, Yeah,
just don't be surprised. And Brady made the call the
shot last week. Don't be surprised if Bill Belichick's phone
rings and he looks down at call her id and
it says Chuck.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Tuck Tuck, Chuck Chuck of con And then Bill Belichick
answers the phone. You say, Chuck Chuck Con.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I love it, but hey, get up, Hey, Dad, come
over here.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
You want to get on the phone. Hey, Hey, this
is my girlfriend and and and this.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Is uh chuck a con.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
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Speaker 3 (27:01):
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He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
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Speaker 2 (27:13):
He Hello, college football analysts, Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Good morning?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Oh not much.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I'm gonna go to Las Vegas a little later today,
which is yes, we're going to miss each other, but
it looks it looks like my one trip a year
maybe to Las Vegas to listen to the problems of
some college football coaches and then hopefully god willing return
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home on Friday or Thursday and report back, and I
have my football magazines and I've been looking up my
football teams and trying to deal with where everybody transferred
and who's who and who's back, which is always fun
to see because so often everybody leaves these teams.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
So just getting ready for that. That's basically all I
have going on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean, with the PAC twelve gone, you know, coming gone,
I have a dinner with the package.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's actually yeah, it's actually still there.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Jokay, Well, I mean not really.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I mean, is it cool knowing that the PAC twelve,
you know who's going to participate in the PAC twelve ten,
you know who's going to be in the championship game already, right.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Nobody nobody gets after each other quite like the PAC two.
I mean, nobody competes with their opponent in conference like.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
The Promis champions. Yeah, so that that will be interesting.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
That's tonight at the Bellaggio's Bye bye bye. Have a
drink with the PAC two while you're there for the
Big twelve the Mountain West.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
So are they still call it the PAC twelve though?
I think so?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Is the Big twelve still the Big twelve? It's kind
of like twenty teams?
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Yeah, I know, but the ten right, Yeah, it's ever so,
I mean the ACC had a Coastal uh Division and
an Atlantic Division.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What's the difference between the two of those.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I don't know. And how is the Atlantic coast? Is
the coast right? Well?
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Now, what is the Atlantic coach any closed anywhere near
Dallas or Palo Alto?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah? From No. Would it have been worse if the
Pac twelve in this case, the two remaining teams just
didn't have a media day?
Speaker 9 (29:37):
He explain this, explain, well, I mean, how do we
have foot Look, we can't play footballs unless we have
a very awkward hotel meeting with a guy with like
with a with a player in his like ill fitting
suit that was his father's, you know, the sea it
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doesn't know how to tie a time, you know for
the tie polo that's my favorite, the tie like around
the polo neck.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You know that that works.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
This is essentially what I'm trying to point to you
was the fact that it feels a bit unnecessary for
a conference that is literally hanging out by a thread.
How do they really need do we really need to
draw attention to that by having a media day for
a conference that no longer has twelve teams, let alone two,
which doesn't really even substantiate the fact that you can't
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have a conference with two teams.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, couldn't you just do it at Whiskey Pets and
like save you the tree?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Wait a minute, First of all, no, isn't it pistol
Pizzang Last night, last time I was there was Whiskey
Pete Whiskey in Prim, Yes, right across the street from
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Then the roller coaster, the roller the now defunct.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Roller coaster, which was one of the most raucous roller
coaster rides in the history. It's like an old lady
pushed the button and you were off to your death.
Hang at the Buffalo Bills, remember that right in Prim.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Look, you guys can sit here and make fun of
the Pack two all you want.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I'm not making fun I'm asking a question. You are
making fun of the pack too. I bet you kidding him.
Name who's the coach of Washington State?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's an easy one.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
When Leech was the coach, that's a.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
That's messed up.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
If you asked the question, I'm just saying, who's the coach?
Jake Dicker, Jake Dicker. That's right, all right. Who's the
coach of Moreton.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
State now that Jonathan Smith left, now that.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
De coordinator took over.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
They Bray.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
Is Trent Bray.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Yeah, he was a mike backer there when I was
calling games. And his father, who's the DC at TCU,
Petrols the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, I think they fired him. They did.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
They hired someone else.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
No, I was supposed play this game with college football analysts.
Who's the coach here? Well, the head coach I can
do generally. The coordinators get a little more complicated. But
all I'm saying is the pack.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Boise State.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
That was my guy at Boise State.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He did not make it.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
To get.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I mean he was in the pack.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
It was easy.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Give you a former head coach, tried to get you
an easy.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
One, an easy one defensive coordinator TCU, that's Sunny Dykes's team.
They didn't played defense. All they need is three stops
a game, and they can't get him.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Dang, they can't get them.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
Well, the reason I asked about the Pac twelve coaches
is these are people that have not had a lot
of experience, especially with Bray. I mean Dickert's been around
a little while, but that's his first head coaching job.
He's never been anywhere else as a head coach. I mean,
how are they going to learn to talk to the
media unless we have a weirdward conversation in Las Vegas
about all their problems.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
So you have to do in Las Vegas? Could you
do it?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
We used to do it.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
No, we used to do it at the Airport Sheraton
in Los Angeles when men were men. Yeah, you know
when we when you go to a breakout room and
eat some stale crackers and talk to Chip Kelly about
playing quarterback at New Hampshire.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
That was That was real football.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
The reason I asked you who those coaches were is
just like they they need their attention. They've got to
find their way to you know, some kind of at least,
I mean, their pr people have to justify their jobs.
I'm showing up for this. It's important. Indeed, it's the
pack too, Brady. And the fact that you're leaving town
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before the pack to dinner and you don't know those
coaches speaks volumes.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Well, I haven't had the opportunity. I've spoken with Jake
dicker in the he's pretty have the opportunity. Yeah, he's
a nice guy.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Yeah, he comes from the North Dakota State kind of
coaching tree where a lot of people kind of come from.
And then Trent Bray is the other guy. And I'm
sure you talked to Andy Avlos today.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I did not have a chance to speak to anything.
Talked to Sonny.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
They didn't send the decordinator to Pac twelve, to Big
twelve media Day, they did not.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Anyway, this is college football analyst talk during the summer.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
We just sit around and talk about everybody's problems, and
the problems are multifold. I remember last year at the
last supper of the Pac twelve, which Brady was at.
At the last supper, right Brady at the it felt
like a funeral. Yes, it was the most interesting college
football dinner I've ever had, There's no doubt about that.
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And last year I remember sitting there talking to Justin
Willcox and he was like, he said something like, listen,
we could sit here all day and talk about each
other's problems, but we still have to play football this fall.
That's kind of what it's come to, you know, with
this transfer. We developed this guy and he left us.
We don't have any nil money or schedule sucks. We
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don't know where we're going to go. You know, I
think this college football offseason, there's just so much uncertain
about what the season is going to be like with
all these new alignments and affiliations, that it's just better
to get it kicked off and see how it plays
out as supposed to try to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Who are they going to like, how are they going
to determine what the success level of those two teams
are that are left, Like do they have a fear
opportunity to make it to the playoff? And how with
that is it based off of who they're playing, who
they're scheduled to play?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I mean, I guess they're just like I mean, I
think if they had a lot of success, like you know,
we're nine to oher or something like that, somewhere in
the middle of November or early November, there's gonna be
a lot of buzz.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
But I think both of those teams, both of those
schools are really just scrambling for survival at this point
and waiting for the next shoe to drop. And I
think that's the most important thing about this. I don't
know if Brady agrees. I'm not sure if you guys
think this is true. But I don't think we'll have
this model for very long, you know, I don't think
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we'll have you know, this Big ten, big weird, gargantuan,
Big twelve, and where the Mountain West is kind of
like the only real West Coast conference and that's very
odd because it's kind of a mid major conference.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So all of those things are really awkward.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
And we're still trying to figure out what this college
football arms race between the two TV networks looks like
in five six years, you know, SEC versus Big ten,
or ESPN versus Fox. Basically, so what happens in five
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or six years probably like a big giant super league
or something like that, and it's just.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Going to look less and less and less like college football.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
And that's kind of that's where we are though, because
of the amount of money that's being made and that
I mean, it's just a reality of when your sport
gets too popular. I guess this is what happens. It
gets carpet bagged and broken up and sold off. And
I think we're right in the middle of that process
and it's not very savory and it's upsetting. It's upsetting
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that Oregon State and Washington State are like floating programs.
It's weird that Ukon is an independent. You know, there's
all this stuff that still needs to be ironed out,
and not everybody's gonna survive. And I think that's an
interesting point LeVar that you make about Oregon State and
Washington State.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
What is their measure of success?
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Survival, irrelevance R getting people to talk about them, which
is why we have the PAC twelve drinks at the
Bolaggio tonight.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Sounds like you're excited.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
There's there's two to travel, Brady. I love it. I
love traveling.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Oh, there's two parts of this. You kind of said,
wait for the shoe drop to see what happens. I
think that's why they're in the position they're in is
nowadays you almost have to be kind of progressive with
your thinking in order to survive. Otherwise, if you wait, like,
there's no one out there with the safety net for you.
And I think that's probably what Washington State Oregon State thought.
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The PAC twelve and whether you want to go back
to Larry Scott, whoever for some of other schools are
who are part of the PAC twelve back then, that's
probably what they thought was gonna happen, like, well, we're good,
you know Cleave Cough or Larry's they've got us, like
our commissioner's got us. No, they don't, like you got
to look out for yourself.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
But well they found the university presented them and the
university president's Larry Scott, George clay Coff, Larry Scott and
the presidents. Really they created this vacuum of failure for
basically West Coast football. And to see it go away
the way it did, I mean we've talked about it,
we've belabored the point, we've talked about why it happened,
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how it happened, but it still is amazing to look
back on and say, wow, how did you screw this up?
Like you were not everybody else would forward thinking and
they were not, and they lost money to it bled
out and it became this, which sucks.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Well, the distribution was what killed it, right, I mean,
the PAT twelve network never worked. That was a bad.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Well yeah, but we can we can do forensics forever
I mean you can't have First of all, you can't
create your own TV network out of nothing when you
have no idea how to do it with no distribution
and no partner. You don't even have distribution in your
own regional footprint. I mean, it was it could watch
Arizona football, right, And then there were like multiple opportunities
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to say the thing while they were failing, and they.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Couldn't save that.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
And even Kleekoff had an opportunity to save it with
ESPN or Apple when when SC and UCLA left and
he still couldn't do it. So it's a massive failure
and it's sad for those of us on the West
Coast that grew up with the conference.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
But now you know, picking up the pieces is where
everybody is joy and it.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Brings me to the next part of it. Like you
talked about the future model, and the interesting thing is
just being here as part of the Big twelve and
what they've had some of the conversations for last night
that you know, we're probably not gonna be in this
model for very long. And what's gonna probably expedite even
more realignment or changes is the revenue sharing. Is there's
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gonna be certain schools that, unfortunately because of the twenty
or so million and operating costs that they haven't had before,
because they now have to pay student athletes, there's gonna
be some that have to cut other sports programs have
to figure out how to make that work within their budget.
And I think what's what you pointed to was the
university presidents. A lot of people don't know this. There's
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a there's in some cases a big divide between the
academic side of an institution and the athletic side. And
oftentimes the schools that seem to have no issue those
two sides work hand in hand. There's a lot of
institutions where that's not the case. And I think those
are the schools that could be in trouble because the
president or the academic side doesn't see the value in,
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you know, having a successful football program and not you know,
just because we mentioned Sunny Dike's go back and look
at the success they had after going to the national
championship as far as enrollment and applications everything else for
their admissions. Oh yeah, go look at Colorado. Last year,
Colorado the same thing. They have an increase like seventy percent.
I mean because in.
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Weird situations like Mike Riley's tenure in Oregon State, like
sure that the enrollment gained by twenty thousand or something
and the school became more popular. You're absolutely right, and
it's a very interesting thing. I mean, even my alma mater, USC,
which is supposed to be a blue blood and this
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giant college football operation, really when you pick up the
curtain and look behind it, it's not.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
And they're struggling to act like one of the big boys, right.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
They've really tried to find that lane to be like
Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, LSU.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
But they have a different situation and they're not. And
what it is is exactly what you mentioned.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
The university president, the board of trustees, the AD and
the head coach have all got to be on the
same page. That's why Oklahoma works so well for so
long under Bob Stoops because they all had the right
people in place to try to keep the thing going.
And if you don't really have that, and look, they
didn't have that at Michigan and they lost home or
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bah over it, right, I mean he left. I mean
there's a lot that happened, but they didn't have solidarity
between the ad and the president.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
If you don't have that, it's really hard to have
a successful college football.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Program now in today's day and age, where the rubbers
meeting the road, and we are no longer allowed to
have this billion dollar football team, weird industry inside of
our institutions of higher education, so seamlessly without asking questions like, hey,
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what are we doing, how does this work? How do
we pay the players? How does this structure work? We
had it pretty good for a long time in our
weird little college football fantasy world, but there's just too
much money being made now and the whole thing's being
torn apart and rebuilt, and it's kind of interesting. I
guess you could say we did the same thing with
the rules to the game. You know, in the last
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twenty years since I've been calling games, you know, a
lot of the stuff we used to do and just
play no longer legal, and we've had to adjust to that.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
And I guess if you like.
Speaker 9 (44:03):
This sport, you really do have to adjust to change
year and in, year out, because otherwise you're just gonna
end up frustrated.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Like me, Patris, we talked, you know, we're joking about
the PAC twelve pack two, you know, having their you know,
their media days at a David I have a drink,
David Busters whatever, like whatever works for you. But so
the but the my question for you is, this is
a conference that's in your family.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Like coach Pray, move over. I want to spot on
that space harrier machine.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Right, we're trying to play Golden tea and you can
step aside, please, But you so, this is a conference
that's in your family, It's in your blood. You like,
obviously you played there, your father played there in the conference.
When did you guys sense that, Oh god, this is
all gone by bye, Like like there was a turn
and it no longer was as respected or run the
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way that it should have been run. When you guys
knew it and what you grew up with, when did
you sense it?
Speaker 9 (45:03):
I was at the PAC twelve media day or not
media day. I was at the PAC twelve Championship. I
called the game with Brady. I was a sideline guy
from one of the sidelines.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
It was that one. It was really kind of a
boring game.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
It was is it Washington, Colorado? No, Washington, Utah? Okay?
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Remember that?
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah, defensive battle, of course, a defensive battle.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Yeah, And I remember like, and I was with Joe
Davis on the plane ride home, and like I was
looking at Twitter and somebody was like.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Wow, what a you know, what a boring call by
Joe Davis.
Speaker 9 (45:38):
And I was like, don't take on Twitter and Joe Davis,
I was like, don't take the bait, Joe, don't take
the bait.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
And then I saw his tweet.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
How would you have liked me to call it?
Speaker 9 (45:47):
There was not much happening, but I remember being there
and they would do like a state of the state
at the PAC twelve championship, like Larry Scott would do
one of the like the Super Bowl kind of you
know where Roger Goodell gives a speech about the state
of the NFL.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
And I remember Larry Scott.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
They were like five years into the most crippling deal
in the history of college football. While they're hemorrhaging out
money and everybody else is stacking chips, and Larry Scott's like,
We're in a great negotiating space for twenty twenty three,
twenty seventeen eight or something. It's just like, dude, by
twenty twenty three, you're gonna be the Mountain West, and really,
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ultimately that is what happened. You just kind of saw
that everybody else was when everybody else was making a
ton of money and these networks like the Big ten
network were flourishing, the PAC twelve network was going in
the absolute opposite direction. And you could see that from
year one. So I guess that's when I saw it.
To answer your question, can I tell you the other
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time you might have seen it? Do you remember the
pactual media days.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
They gave the best gifts at the dinner, and I
feel like the first year it might have been an
iPad or something. It was like, whoa, wow, this is
like a really nice gift, and then it slowly went downhill.
It was a long last year was well last year was,
but the year before that, like the last year they
had in LA I can't quite recall what it was,
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but that was the thing. It was. It was very
forgettable and well they would do this.
Speaker 9 (47:21):
They do these media days on like Hollywood Boulevard and
it's like, you know, with the cracked out Spider Man
and like seven Jack Sparrows and just the dregs of society,
you know, and it's like and.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Michael Bercovici walking down the street. It's like, what are
we doing?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
You know what?
Speaker 9 (47:39):
Whoa you know what I mean, it it never made sense.
You know, we're gonna we're gonna embrace Hollywood, We're gonna
go to the Sony Lot, We're gonna go We're gonna
make the media drive around West Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
It's like, dude, they they just never had it figured out.
Speaker 9 (47:55):
It started to feel like they had a little momentum
when they started to kind of move some of their stuff.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
To Lats Vega, but it was never going to work
with that TV deal.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
And it sucks.
Speaker 9 (48:05):
It sucks for it sucks for everybody because you look
at the conference, the PAC twelve conference last year, and yeah,
Washington they want to they want a playoff game and
they lost in the championship.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
But they had a great year.
Speaker 9 (48:18):
I mean, Bo Nicks, Panics, Caleb Williams, I mean whatever
was happening in Colorado, which was interesting. I mean the
conference was an absolute joy last year and it was,
you know, just like kind of a sunset. That was it,
and it to pick up the pieces will be interesting.
(48:40):
We'll see what it's like tonight at the PAC. Two
drinks for two.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Oh yeah, you think it's just gonna be.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Me and John Canzano staring at each other.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Probably I was gonna say, what's the how many people
you think will be in attendance?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
How many media members? What are we looking at over under.
Speaker 6 (48:56):
Of like I mean me, Johnny cans Wilner.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I don't know. That's fine as long as you're.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
There, maybe the voice of the bees.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Fair well, Patros, have a good time. I have a
couple of cocktails in our honor.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
And do you guys see Violet Affleck.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Uh? I actually saw that, Yes, I saw that. What
is it? It's it's interesting, Violet Affleck. She's calling for
what like UV light war filtered masks and all that,
and government facilities or something.
Speaker 6 (49:36):
UV lights, some kind of air filtration.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And masks mass interesting.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
I thought it was a movie or a TV show
or something.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
It seemed like it.
Speaker 7 (49:47):
Okay, Uh, I'll.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Keep my comments to myself.
Speaker 9 (49:51):
No, I just I just loved her breathy delivery reminds
me of my of how I try to like pull
it together in the morning.
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Here breathy, pull out the Violet.
Speaker 9 (50:03):
Affleck real quick before before I leave you guys, figure,
I want to hear her breathy. This is going to
be me talking to talking about Brady and Andy Alos
and uh Trent Bray and Jake Dickard tonight.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
Yeah, I think we find it. The lap find it.
He's smart on Twitter right violent and give me the speech.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Well, problems, we're up against it. We don't know if
we're going to be able to it's coming on next
you know, you know, other stuff going on. We got
the BQ News coming up, got to play.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
They always they always have the b C. We We've
literally left you enough space now where the b Q
News does not impact your head at all. They are
making excuses, Petros, I don't say they can go longer
if you want. Right now, I want to.
Speaker 9 (50:50):
Play itchy or sticky. You know I can pull it
up on my phone and stick the thing to the
mic right now.
Speaker 6 (50:58):
You want me to do it.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I'm mean, listen, it's up to it, up to lead lead.
We have a do we have an opportunity to do
this or are we going to get ready to get
in trouble here?
Speaker 5 (51:08):
Jonas is worried about the radio. Fama.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I'm a clock guy, like I care about the clock.
You know you're not that's that's me.
Speaker 6 (51:14):
Are you here, come violent affleck? Are you ready?
Speaker 7 (51:16):
Yeah, We're ready.
Speaker 11 (51:18):
Milt al Flack, Los Angeles resident, first time voter in eighteen,
I contracted a post trial condition. In twenty nineteen. I'm
okay now, but I saw firsthand that medicine does not
always have answers to the consequences of even minor viruses.
The COVID itteen pandemic has thrown the end of sharper relief.
One in ten infections leads to long COVID, which is
a devastating neurological cardiovasc You want illness that can take
(51:38):
away people's ability to work, moves, and even thinks, even
thinks our homelessness crisis, as well as the suffering of
many people in our city at hits, communities of color,
disabled people, elderly people, trans people, woman, and anyone in
a pulsing essential job of the hardest to conflunt along
COVID crisis. I demand mask availability, air filtration and far
UVC light in government facilities, including jails and detention centers,
(52:00):
and that mandates and county medical facilities. You must expand
the availability of high quality, free tests and treatment. Most importantly,
the county must oppose mask.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Fans for any reason.
Speaker 11 (52:09):
They do not keep us safer. They make vulnerable members
or a community less safe. I'll make everyone less.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
Able to protect.
Speaker 7 (52:15):
She talk it so fast, it was breathy. It definitely
was breadthy.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
You don't sound anything like that.
Speaker 6 (52:21):
That's me to not yet that too.
Speaker 7 (52:23):
Come on, that was definitely that.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
I mean, does she have like a time limit, Like,
I don't get what she's talking so fast?
Speaker 7 (52:31):
Her mother? She was taking deep breaths.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
What, of course Lee was at a wedding with Jennifer Garner.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
Yes, he was.
Speaker 7 (52:38):
She was sitting behind me the whole time.
Speaker 9 (52:39):
So instead of finding the sound, you just figured you'd
open your mind to ask the questions about Jennifer Garner
at the wedding.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
What was she like Lee?
Speaker 6 (52:52):
I heard she's a lovely lady.
Speaker 7 (52:53):
She was very nice. She was very nice. She split
right after the ceremony, fantastic.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
I heard she went up to you she was an
usher and said, what's
Speaker 5 (53:02):
In your wale
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