July 29, 2024 • 46 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, we have boots on the ground with Brady in Paris for the Olympics. Calling Jordan Love the highest paid player in the league is a bit misleading and Tua earns his payday as well. And LaVar is on Team Caleb after Montez Sweat hits him in practice.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and Ray Winn and
Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good? Yeah, it's Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Everybody excited, everybody fantastic? Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No one tunnel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it's uh, I think.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It's me breathing, honestly, not I'm really thinking about Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's probably you breathing. Well, why didn't you say something?
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Well, how do you bring that up to you?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Var, you're breathing too heavy into the microphone. We thought
it was the issue. It's a complicated.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
We thought it was that, but we we didn't want
to point any fingers.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it's easier to plant on the wind.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
At least I know that you guys are willing to
let me walk around with a big, fat, yellow booger
in my nose, and I'll keep that in mind. I'll
make sure I check up on my own body extremities
and all that stuff when I'm out with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Cold blood, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Josh should have texted me and been like Vart the
wind tunnel means you're breathing too heavily.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I didn't know what it was I was just hoping
that it actually was a wind tunnel.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I mean, I really.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Was as opposed to LeVar heavily panting.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You're just as guilty as Q is because you put
it in the promo.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, but also in the background.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
On all these things and wind tunnels.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I'm glad it's such a slow day and sports that
you guys would choose to not tell me that I'll
breathing through heavily the mic.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Can we be honest that that's you know, that's what
we're going.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's all about making the show better.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And if we're going to be brutally honest about it,
and we're going to be rare breeds when it comes
to this. A lot of the topics we had on
Friday work garbage, okay, Like they were not very good.
So it really did make the show better. Like whatever
the theme was throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Was the expense of my heavy breathing into the microphone
that made the show better.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What it's worth. I'm happy about that. For what it's worth,
I really enjoyed it. I just want you to know
that far. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh come on, man, come on, come on, man, alight,
this bums me out.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Okay, shut up the show. There is training camp and
we know we're Q is right.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Where's the end?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You know? Yeah? Where am I at?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Where's Brady?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You got boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He definitely does.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Okay, Brady, you want to we we do?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You want to big the big unveil?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
That's right, That's that's right, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I am in Paris, reach on the ground here for
the twenty twenty four Olympics.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
We have stopped at no expense.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
I want to thank Scotch, pierro Don, Martin Jade lead
the lap who's helped.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Put this together behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
I was flowing here by the French kiss got a
sweet tooth. Come take a bite out of Europe's number
one bakery.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's right, I'm that's right. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, free kisses, balling, get that wark.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Come on, man, So how is it a.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Bunch of cake up in there? So?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
How how is it over there right now? Is there
like act anything going on? Like can you see any Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, there's there's a bunch of events going on right now.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Had an opportunity to walk around a little bit earlier,
saw the Eiffel Tower, saw the Champs de Laze, saw
a bunch of things. I'm not really sure what it was,
but it's it's quite the scene, quite the setup. People
walked around everywhere, different events going on, people representing their countries.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
So it's, uh, it's a pretty cool scene.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
I've never been to the Olympics since seen anything like
this before, so to being a foreign country and see it,
it's pretty incredible. I will admit this. It's hard not
to acknowledge the opening ceremonies. And as soon as I
got off the plane and got to do a taxi,
that was the first question the taxi driver asked me.
And given the controversy that it is created, I kind
(04:19):
of just said, you know, I didn't see a ton
of it, wasn't really sure what to make of it.
And then he started to go off, so not to
get off on that subject, however, he well, you might
have seen a guy's nutsack hanging.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Out to the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh that what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that was that?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Oh, it was for sure out there.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Hey, the Olympics are here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Get a load of that guy's cash and prizes behind
camera two.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Clearly there were some people who had an agenda and
i'll this way.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Based on this specific too.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
He was very upse and he said there's many other
people who are French who are upset by that, given
their rich history and many of their traditions, that they
were hoping they would display something else instead of what
was displayed. So that's one man's opinion, not mine, but
our our taxi driver. However, he said, there's a lot
of people who are upset with how the French culture
(05:20):
was portrayed during the opening ceremony. So not sure if
we throw that on NBC or who gets the blame
for that, But uh, they they've moved past it. However,
a lot of people are still talking about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Has that ever happened to you guys before?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Somebody put theirselves on display and you had to question
yourself as to whether you know they knew or not.
That's happened to me one time before, and it actually
was was. I won't I won't give too many details
because I don't you know, it's connected to you know,
a family member in my house, my oldest daughter. We
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were we were at we were at a volleyball tournament
and one of the spectators there. I'll leave all of
that nameless, but certainly was was comfortable and leg cross
sitting position and was sitting across like well back across
(06:23):
from from the tenant of the court. And yeah, it
was It's like you turn, you turn to look at
the traffic, you turn to look at the kids warming up,
you know, hitting the balls ironically coincidentally hitting the balls
over the net, and boom like there there it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Was full full display. And yeah, yeah, and I don't
believe it was French, so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I was.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I was at a cookout once and there's an older
and they we actually deemed him the nickname Teddy longballs,
short pair of shorts on sat down.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Because you could imagine.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The pair of streets.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Got a nice look at a walnut.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
A pair of a pair of street sweepers. Huh. Another
thing that a right big deal. I mean, the problem is.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Those were unintentional. This felt very intentional what happened the
opening ceremonies, and you know, to people who had an
issue with it, you know, if you've got a kid
who wants to watch the opening ceremonies, they've been hearing
all about this. It's every four years and then you
turn that on. I can understand why people would have
a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I was watching with my daughters.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Were you really happened?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
They asked me, like, well, it's hard to see that
in real time, but there are some still shots obviously
that were able to realize what was happening.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
But there was so much going on that my my
two oldest girls were like, Dad, what what was that?
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I was like, they're not out of age to I
like fully understand what was happening. So not to distract
from sports, but I mean, it was disappointing in that
sense of like being a father and trying to like
explain to kids who aren't old enough to really understand
what's happening.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I'm sure glad I wasn't watching it. I'd have been, hey, y'all,
look at that. Look that's what you call? Uh Well,
I won't say what I was going to say, but
that would have probably been poor parenting.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I would have probably lar.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Your two balls.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
By the way, Labar, if you were wondering what what
he was referring to, Lee made sure to send over
a yeah, still I felt still picture with the arrow
pointing now to it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, I felt this, I felt the buzz.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm sitting here looking for the evidence of the situation
that I found myself in.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Heast got you covered?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Its good? Oh yeah, I'm glad you Wow. Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What are we doing? Can I tell you a gripe
I have with the Olympics?
Speaker 9 (09:12):
But do you see what I commented on it, which
was what, well, it's actually a Coop's comment that it's
a ripping the leggings to Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, and he didn't know what was going on?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Oh yeah, Coop, Yeah, you just didn't fill that form
out there.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
How about Okay, good call Coop, But this isn't tenty Kravits.
All right, he's not uh, he's not going.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He's not going. Are you going to go my way?
And then all of a.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Sudden, his h his leather pants split on stage and
he's got a gas pump hanging out.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You had to know that that that was You had
to know, you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Know, it was intentional like that.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
You don't make it, Coop?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Come on, yeah, come on, enough's enough crap, Coop.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You knock it off, cop Man, Hey, Coop, you're nuts
all right, absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I promise you that's not what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What's in the back cap?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh so you think those are prop nuts though they're
not nuts at all.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
It's his leg, is that what you're saying.
Speaker 10 (10:11):
No, it looks like his nuts is are hanging out,
but it's just he's wearing like these, I.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Know, I know what this looks like.
Speaker 10 (10:20):
He's wearing leggings and there's like a tear in the
leggings so the rest of his leg is darker, and
then the tear is the actual skin.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Do you get closer?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Can you get closer to actually take a look?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, get closer, Cooper, Get a little closer, Coop.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Coop there, tie his shoes for him and look up
and see what and.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And tell us that those aren't what we're saying they are.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Like it's not a skin tag like that, like those
like you know, that's his goods that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Are hanging out like they're not. But okay, it's funnier, all.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Right, Coop, tell us why you think that it's not?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Tell us again, tell us again.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Visual evidence, my eyeballs.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Who has who has a leg like that?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
You were classes, don't you? Yes? Yeah, I've seen those things.
They look like bifocals.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Is that they take them off, take them off and
look again, take them off.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
And I'm just saying, somebody begged me up because look
at the picture.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Where's the you might have like twenty sixty vision. I
don't know if you're the best person to tell us
what you see out there.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Okay, Well, the.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Fact that if you was wearing leggings, there's no way
those could be hanging out of.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's just say they're not leggings, they're tights.
Speaker 10 (11:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Those are tights which can easily get a hole, and
they do compress the rest of your thighs, so you
would get a bulge kind of coming out like that
guy does. Yes, but I do think it's thimy.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
I think it's thymy.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
This is our bulge, looking expert, Tang.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I'm just saying we're not looking for it, so.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Tang, I mean, damn, well, look, can I a legitimate
gripe I have with the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So and.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I don't know what events are live in real time?
Like the delay is throwing me off, I swear to God.
And the way that it's mapped out on television, like
if you want to find information about it, Like, I
really don't know if I'm watching an actual live event
or if I'm not, which makes it really and this is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The unfortunate part of all of this, which makes it.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Really difficult to gamble on because I would love to
gamble on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I would love to have the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't know what the hell's going on and whether
or not it's happening in real time.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
That's a problem I've I've got a buddy who's got
a very similar issue with that. That being said, he
did bet on the men's Olympic team in basketball sweet
and I will point out the fact that yes, they
beat Serbia. However, that being said, when Nikola Jokis was
on the floor with basically a bunch of future security.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Guards and been bouncers.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Damn they were even with the Olympic t he was
off the floor, it was like negative twenty six or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It was.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
So yeah, quite the showing for Nikolejokic, the two time MVP,
at least of late within the NBA, showcasing on a
world stage just how good he is against the best
in the NBA. That was pretty cool to watch, but
I'm glad USA won.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It is funny because it does get buried behind.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, the Celtics won the title, Bronni James controversy, all
the other fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, leg meat.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh and by the way, by the way, Joker still
the best player on the planet. And here's your evidence
of that on the biggest stage. So listen, we will
get a covered. But that is a major controversial moment
here on this show.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Apparently.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Wait, don't sleep on South Sudan.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Remember how we we were mocking the men's basketball team
for that close victory over South Sudan. Yeah, they actually
got their first win in men's basketball history.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
So kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
That squad looks like they actually might be so maybe
an indication of things that come in the future.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Are they tall? Yes, they are, damn and they.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
They're very athletic, LeVar very athletic.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
You know what. It reminds me of a movie I
once saw called Air Up There. Oh, good thing is
that the uniform?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Great movie was that Kevin?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's Kevin big enough? Is it the same uniform? I
can't think so why everybody can stop it?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Not sure what to refer to Johnson.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I just remember the movie I was just curious if
that's the same.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Utiful them South Sudan players are tall, Johnson, they are tall.
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Speaker 4 (15:30):
We do know is that it was smart for the
Green Bay Packers to groom Jordan Love because he got paid.
He got paid, He's one year as a starter, and
he got a big fat contract from the Green Bay Packers.
The GM of the Packers, Brian Gudakun, spoke over the
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weekend about the decision to sign Jordan love to the deal,
knowing what it would do to the cap, but knowing
they couldn't live without having him.
Speaker 12 (16:00):
Whenever you have these big contracts, there's there's some challenges
that we've dealt with that pretty much, you know, for
the past I don't know how many, however many years, So.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
That's part of it.
Speaker 12 (16:07):
But I would rather be dealing with this challenge and
some others, so you know, that's that'll be part of it.
It'll be important that we continue to draft well and
make good decisions along the way. But you know, having
that position stable and a guy who we know can
perform at a high level, I'll take that every day.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So that was that was a shot fire to me.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What do you mean that sounded like.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
A shot fire to me?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean it could you know, that could have been
like a little bit of you know, I may change my,
uh my assessment of the New York Jets because they
just gave Aaron Rodgers all the ammunition he needed to
have an MVP, all the motivation.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He said, I'd rather deal with this problem than others.
Got to catch that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean it's heard it.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah, I mean let's be clear here, Well let's let's
let's break this down a little further as we can.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Come on, let's do it, Johnson.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, I mean, if we're gonna do that, I mean
I do think it is appropriate.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Here and now for more on this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Two pros and a cup of Joe NFL contract analysts
Freight and te quid.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
All right, folks, let's break down the Jordan Love contract.
It's a four year, two hundred and twenty million dollars extension. Now,
remember he had a year left on his deal, So
not only is it built as a four year, two
hunred twenty million dollar contract, he's got a few voidable
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years attached on the end of this.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Why is that important?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
But he's got a significant signing bonus, a seventy five
million dollar signing bonus, which is the biggest in NFL history.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So that is record breaking in that regard.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
And if you read a lot of the reports, you'll
hear that new Money average, that average annual value is
fifty five million per year and also is the highest.
But those are metrics that I don't really look at.
I look at total guaranteed and signing bonus. One hundred
and sixty million total guaranteed that is or I should
say is short of obviously Deshaun Watson's contract, but even
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to a tongue a buy loa who signed earlier that
day with the Miami Dolphins for one hundred and sixty
seven million total guaranteed. So again everyone pumps up these contracts.
This is this is a great contract really for Jordan Love,
but also team and for this reason, Jordan Love's cap
hit this season is only twenty about point eight million dollars,
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and even if as you look into twenty twenty five,
the cap hit is below thirty million dollars, that's reasonable.
That allows the team to still be able to work
out around it and put pieces around him. Under the
salary cap, it really doesn't get big until year four,
which at that point in time they've got a really
good idea of what Jordan Love is and what he's not,
as this contract is heavily backloaded. So that being the case,
(18:55):
I think the Green Bay Packers essentially said, look, we're
gonna give you a big signing bonus, we believe in you,
but in two or three years, we're not gonna be
crippled by this. And in two or three years, if
you're the quarterback, we think you are, we're probably gonna
be looking at another extension and we're gonna have to
reconfigure our cap then. Anyway, So good deal for Jordan Love,
good deal for the Green Bay Packers. I will say this,
(19:17):
it's a bit risky really. If you go back to
the one year he started up until week eleven of
last year, he didn't look great.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It was week.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Eleven onward, even into the playoffs, obviously, as we saw
the beatdown on Dallas where Jordan Love turned it on
through the regular season the one playoff game.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
However, that being said.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Brian gouden Kunst has gone through this before the general manager.
He was there when they did the transition from Brett
Farved Aaron Rodgers, and he's now the guy in charge
of the transition from Aaron Rodgers at Jordan Love, and
so he's seen this before, as has Mark Murphy, their
president and CEO. But as LeVar pointed out, there is
a lot you could make about the fact that what
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Brian Gooden Coustin said and the fact that you know,
they get this deal done with Jordan Love breaking some
records for a quarterback that obviously hasn't accomplished as much
Aaron Rodgers did during his time there.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Boom boom, Yeah, that's how you break it down.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
By the way, I must have had that corn grid
from that bakery shouts out to the kids.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah rightag so when he did. I do also feel
like when these contracts come up. I was thinking about
this over the weekend, like it's always a debate like this,
so and so deserved the contract, that they deserve to
get paid and we can you know, break down and
get to the details of the TUA contract as well too.
But more often than not, almost always they end up
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getting the deal done. Like the idea that they weren't
just you know, oh, he's gonna sit out longer, maybe
they won't get this done. Like who's the exception to
the rule Kirk Cousins in Washington years ago, like to
where they just franchised him a couple of times. But like,
if you have a guy, as Goodakunz pointed out, like
I'd rather deal with issues knowing to have a guy
(21:02):
than not have somebody and try and work around that.
And so I like, the only other time I could
think that it didn't happen was kirk Cousins. Other than that,
I can't think of another example.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
One if you go back to Kirk Cousins, the dollar
amounts for signing bonus and total guarantees weren't quite there yet.
Where you know, I think he looked at it and
said and then as we know based on what he
did afterwards with the Vikings, I mean, he got a
three year, fully guaranteed deal that might have been something
that he was asking for Washington at the time that
(21:31):
they just weren't willing to do, and he was able
to find it once he became a free agent, and
the money's escalated heavily since then. I mean, look at
his contract now. I mean, coming off an injury with
a new team, he gets a hundred million total guaranteed
at signing, So you know that was one of the
biggest differences then too. I still look at this deal
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and I go back and even as good as it is,
I still harken back to the fact that they could
have gotten more if they felt this good about Jordan
Love after just one season. Remember, before last year he
signed an extension that gave the team all sorts of control.
Otherwise Jordan Love would have been staring at quite possibly
(22:14):
one of the biggest contracts we've ever seen, and this
is being billed as that, but if you really take
into account what he's going to be getting paid this
year along with the four years they tacked on top
of that, it doesn't come out to the fifty five
million average annual value that's the new money average.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So my whole point.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Is is everyone's going to be crediting athletes first. And
Andrew Kessler and David Moulugeta, however, they really could have
had a bigger contract had they rolled the dice and
done something similar to Kirk Cousins and not agreed to
an extension last year, and then we could be talking
about something truly and legitimately record breaking.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
M dang I.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Certainly was going to bring up the agency too and
ask you your opinion on the fact that the two
biggest contracts that were just done was done by that
same agency, see that you just just just named off.
But yeah, I mean, it looks like he's in perfect
position for as you mentioned, if he plays at a
(23:12):
high level, if he's playing the way they expect him
to play, that the restructuring, the kind of the moving
more backloaded money up and kind of doing it that
way seems like that's where it's going to go in
(23:33):
my estimation, which at the end of the day, he's
getting a lot of guaranteed money right away. I mean,
good for him on on striking striking that deal. Uh,
you know at this point could have got more, but
maybe didn't get more. I mean, these numbers are I
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keep asking myself, when is when is it going to be?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like we can't go any higher?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Never just gets hired and higher.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I just don't It's kind of mind boggling to me
that they're able to continue to go up to these
these numbers that they're hitting.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I remember when people were Man of the Bengals really
given Andy Dalton seventeen million a year, like I can.
I can remember that conversation and yeah it was a
while back, but it wasn't that far back. And he's
getting fifty five a year. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Like I gotta feed my kids, man, you know, I
gotta get groceries.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty wild to think where the contract.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
What's wild is to a tongue of I looa has
already made thirty some million in his career. After the
end of this contract, you have made two hundred and
sixty five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Think about that. And this is no disrespect to Tua.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
You know, people don't understand, you know, if you compared
him and Jordan Love, Tua's got a body of work.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
He's proved improved every.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Single season, and he's been through adversity, I mean early
now with Brian Flores in the way he would get
taken out of the game and benched for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
You know, he's overcome all of that and really flourished.
And you can point to Tyreek Hill, who not only
one sidebar should be up for an extension at some point,
but two the impact he's had since Tyreek Hill has
gotten there, it's beside the point. I mean, Mike McDaniel
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went to bat for Tua. He believes in Tua and
that's a big piece of it. But he's also got
a lot of film and tape to showcase and say
this is why I feel good about it. You know,
Jordan Love really again has last season Week eleven onwards,
and so there's no guarantee that this is going to
work out well for Green Bay like it did when
they did this with Aaron Rodgers during his first year
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of starting experience, so there's still a lot of time
love to see how these things play themselves out. What
I find most interesting about this with too, and we
still have to see the details of all the contract,
is the litany of injuries he had coming into the
league and they and even early on when he was
you know, getting.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Banged up in the concussion issue.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
If you look at the total guarantees, I mean, I
want to see the fine print to see if they
protected themselves for that potential. But I will say this,
and I don't know if you have time for this
or not. The way he was introduced to the crowd
the day after signing, that's Randy Camp was a bit cringe.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean, the show me the money crap.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Like not cringe.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'd like to use the latest to the latest, the
latest slangs.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
To expe It was cringe.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It was, and honestly, that should void the contract.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It so bad.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like if I were the Dolphins, I'd be like, all right,
you know, like who else we got? Who is that
quarterback that's started a playoff game for them two years ago?
That was like it was a Skyler Thompson, Like I
would I would give half of that to Skyler Thompson
and say, hey, listen, after what he just pulled at practice,
we're done here, Like wait, way too much. And then
he said some coach or some assistant told him to
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do it. Whoever told you to do it, they should
be fired. That was awful and disgusting and I was
not even aware of it until Brady sent it over,
and just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you know, he's he's good to go though. Miami's
got their guy.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (27:42):
As you maybe have listened earlier in the show, but
if you're new to the show this hour and you're
just tuning in and trying to find out what we've
been talking about, big news here. Big news here was
the discussion of the opening ceremonies controversy over whether or
not some guy that is, uh, yeah, some guy had.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
His either way hanging out either.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Way opening ceremonies.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Call't but like, how can you what do you mean
leg meat that? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
More?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I'm looking at it it creates like a bit of
an optical illusion. I'm kind of with with Raina and
and uh Coop and Coop Man.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know how anybody thinks that that's thie meat.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
It's it looks like I would I would co sign
with Raina. I would co sign with Raina. I don't
know that to co signed with Coop. I've seen this
classes man, So damn you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You're right, Coop does have thick, thick glasses. But upon
driving back and forth, you're right. You ain't lying, you're
saying Coop.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I would also say this based on the rest of
the outfit. Yeah, I'm gonna go with you know.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You're going to stick with where you act? Say it?
Go ahead, say it.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, Look, ornaments, it's too early for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I mean not for that guy.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Guys, guys walking around with his skin fruit out and
and we're just about to sit here and pretend like
it's legging me.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
That's a good one right there, that he's heading to
the gym with his ball bag.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You know, tang.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Tang, what brand of never mind? Speaking of?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
I should announce to you guys that I am here
in Paris, boots on the ground, all expenses paid to
be able to be here, and this hour is specifically
brought to you by Paris Pipes, Francis go to for
all things plumbing.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You need your pipes.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Cleaned, leta ty our hair back and get that work.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You're the best.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
That's the most amazing read for a company that I've
ever heard.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Hey, Paris Pipes, great job, great and.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
They're probably pretty busy with that crap water that that
everybody seems to be satuated with.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Lee keeps thinking they're swimming.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
How much money would you have to be paid to
swim in the sad river right now?
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Give me, give me unlimited UH funds prestige and we're
good to go.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What is prestige? Prestige is my UH word?
Speaker 9 (30:33):
What my quarter of store?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh, by the way, I had a uh since we're
on the topic, I had a segment idea that I
threw it leave and I wanted to see if you
guys get that work. A lot of plumbers have long
hair over there here, like, I don't know who came
(30:59):
up with this and puts let me tell you they're brilliant.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I got nothing to thank you.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Thank you the French kiss and Paris pipes.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
This isn't a French escort male escort service that bag.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I had a segment idea that that I wanted
to throw at you guys, because I threw it at
Lee and it's kind of a play. You remember that
bit we did where the NBA had their all NBA
team and so Lee came up with his all liquor
store team.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
All right, So, yeah, did you see that video? I said,
Lebron and Brownie did that?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, what is it? So?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Here was my idea, A top like we'll call it
Lee's liquor store list. It's a top or bottom five
that he surprises us with once a week, and it's
basically top five or bottom five.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Categories at a liquor store. It could be.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Snacks, hard alcohol, mini bottles, beers, glass like you name it.
But Lee will come up with something every single week
and surprise us with it. And I feel like it's
going to create a lot of controversy and a lot
of conversation.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
What do you think.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I'm always in for a Lee de Lap segment.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, I'll be okay with it.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, so I want you maybe we'll effort that we'll
get some imaging done and we'll put that together.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
I'll put in some hard research.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Are you.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I gotta I gotta get my stuf.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Ask a question?
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Behind scenes, I feel like sometimes we send in some
of these notes sometimes, like you end up doing this
rundown like way early in the night.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Is that is that fair to.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Say, well, early in the night?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Does that mean?
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I'm not exactly sure what you mean earlier the night
for us? Sometimes people say earlier late like early in
the day or late at night.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Or early in the night time, Like so there's nighttime,
late at night I would be like two am.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Early the night would be like eight pm.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Yeah, yeah, No, I means sometimes I get to him
like early in the day, like noon or five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Sometimes I go, he can have his night in late night.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Sometimes, y.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
I usually try to power through it in between my sessions,
you know what I mean. There's there's before and.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Afters youre sessions because that's where we're calling them.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I'm just looking.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm just looking at this video of ours.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Or somebody put somebody put Bronnie's face on arn Anderson
and put the bronze face on Rick flair with.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Mean Jean in the middle interviewing him. Oh my people
gotta get a life.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Man, it's so good. It's so Bronnie. I mean, it's
both of them. It's so good. Man. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I'm so glad I'm not famous. I didn't deal with this.
It's unbelievable. Oh well, look, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's so good. The way Bronn standing.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
There, now you know that? Uh you know, you know
that Bronnie went to us C. I don't know if
you guys were aware of that. He went to the
us C. You know who else went to the USC
Caleb Williams and uh to he did you know where else?
Jordan Adison goes seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's where he goes.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
By the way, lead, does Jordan Maison go to your
liquor store?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
No?
Speaker 9 (34:59):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like appearances?
Speaker 9 (35:01):
I do see a Rolls Royce parked outside all the time,
so that might hang him.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, just go knock on the windows, go knock on
the window and wake him up.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So everybody's getting.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
It today, everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So Caleb Williams was at practice over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
They were doing some.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Drills and apparently Montest Sweat got a little bit too frisky.
Matt Eberfluse, the head coach of the Bears, spoke about
a decision to pull Montest Sweat from the drill based
on the rough house of his new franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
He knows he.
Speaker 13 (35:39):
Should not do that. I threw him out of the
drill today and then I pulled him aside and I said, look,
I said, you cannot do that. You'll be sick if
something happens. Okay, And that's what I told him. He
understands that. And does he get around there fast and
all that stuff? Yeah, he does, but he also has
he's a superior elite athlete.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
He's good enough to be able to stop and move away.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So he's got to be just on that way and
he will the future.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So if he's their best defender.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
That's wow to Like hear a pro coach say that
about a pro player.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's wild to me, Like, does that land wrong with
people inside the building there?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
For this is one time where I honestly say it's
a defender. Listen, if I'm on that defense and that's
my d n coming off the edge and he hits
our quarterback I'll probably be the first one to say, bro,
stay off of me.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Man, what you're doing? Like, Taz, what you're doing?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Like, what are you doing right past? Can I ask this?
I mean, obviously I haven't seen the hit any contact.
Usually it's gonna draw some concern from the head coach,
et cetera, because you don't you want to kill the
Williams just to get to the season healthy and give
you guys a chance of going to the playoffs and win.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But Montes, what's been in the NFL about what five
years or so.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
All I'm saying is, as a defender, especially a leader
on that defense, is there a little bit in the
back of your mind of like, hey, this guy's a rookie.
He's got to earn it, because when you compare it
to other quarterback situations, it's different. You know, most these
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guys who are rookies are in some sort of quarterback competition,
whether it's you know, Drake May and Jacoby Brissett, whether
it's Sam Darnold, JJ McCarthy, Kirk Cousins, Michael Pennix, if
you want to call it that, Bo Nix and Jared
Stidham and Zach Wilson I mean you could even say
Jayden Daniels maybe and then looking at what's on their
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roster too, but maybe not so much with him, but
still with Caleb, it's like he's it man and Tyson
Begent's the backup. Is there anything in the back of
your mind where you're thinking, as a defensive player, like, hey,
not only do we need to test him, but also
like we to kind of prepare him for what he's
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about ready to get week in a week out in
the NFL regular season. No, No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
No, I wouldn't even hit the backup quarterback because it's
not it's not there's nothing productive that comes from you
making contact.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
With the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Seemed legitimately pissed by it.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Also, again I'm saying though, like bumping into him, because
I've seen guys before when they've bumped into quarterbacks where
it's like they get yelled at, and it's like that
wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Like I understand love bump is one thing, and I
would say a love bump would be like on a
run play, if that man is in any type of
throwing motion and you bump him or anything like that,
that's a hell No, that's not just a no, that's
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a like bro like like we're gonna come back into.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
This soft on as far No you got no.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
No.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I had to yoke little man man man up yesterday.
I'm still strong, my guy. Let me tell you something.
I get it in and I get it in where
it's right and where where it's just like it's got
to be justified tight what right? Anyway, My point is,
you don't touch the quarterback. There's no reason he's the
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only player on the field outside of the punter that
you just don't.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
You don't touch. You don't touch them.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
So the chicken, so the chicky you touch.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You could touch the kicker if if we were doing
if we were doing, yeah, you can touch a kicker.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Wait, so you think the punter is more important kicker.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I'm not saying he's more I'm just saying, within context
of what takes place, if the punter, like if it
was like a John Hall like shuts.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Out to my boy John Hall.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
If well, if you were to kick the ball and
you started running downfield, a guy may put his hands
on you to act as though simulate he's blocking you.
He can put his hands on you. Now punters is
just generally they go towards the sideline. They should go
towards the sideline. They should not be an eleventh man
outside of kicking the ball or punting the ball on
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that play. You don't really touch punters, but you don't.
You certainly don't touch. The only time a quarterback can
be touched is if he's running Scout team.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
That's the only time you touch a quarterback. And that
and even then that's still kind of questionable. That's questionable
college not so much pros So no, no, because you
know that that backup that that you know, that Scout
team quarterback is literally your backup quarterback, so you don't
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touch him.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
By the way, you know who's got intimate knowledge on this.
They told me before the show. Hey Lee, why did
you Why don't you tell the story of that little
kid that you assaulted when you were playing football?
Speaker 9 (41:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, my peewee years. I made the mistake
of swinging my quarterback into the ground and closing down
practice because I concuss and knocked out my quarterback. I
still feel bad about that. I still apologize to you.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Boy. Sorry, Kyle Good hit Buddy Good, hit.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Lee if I was in high school and I saw
Lee do something like that, I put my hands on
my hips. I'd shake my head and I point to
the to the coach or the decordinator and be like, dude,
can you get this kid out of king?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Can you get him out of here? Man, get him
out of here?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Put your hands on new hips, all my.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Hips and disappointment, like, dude, can you get him out
of here?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Like what is he doing? What? Like? Hey, what's your name?
What are you doing? Bro?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Get in a huddle, get over here, man, come here,
like I like your energy, I like your hold on.
Let me just get this straight.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
The guy that you have been hard on for the
whole crying in his mom's bosoms after a loss.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yes, you were saying, doesn't heed tough enough at all?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Not that way. Oh, not that way, not not in
not not that way.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Now there's there's I mean, listen at this point, if
that's if he still can go jump up and.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Montest Sweat had some big bosoms that he hit him with,
would that change how you feel about this?
Speaker 8 (42:38):
Mm?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
No, because he would have to run to Montest Sweats bosoms,
and then that would be really that would be an
even bigger problem. That would be a bigger problem. He
couldn't run into him with his big bosoms. It would
have to be Caleb running for his and if he
were doing that, gotcha, Yeah, yeah, I assure you did.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
There.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Know, Hey, I do have a question though, of our like,
what was one quarterback that you played with that you
would have loved to have lit.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Up in practice? Well?
Speaker 5 (43:09):
I did that in high school one time, and they
tried to kick me off the team. They tried to
get my head coach fire too, because they thought he
told me to do it.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I was acting on my own.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
So you were Montest Sweat before Montest Sweat.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
No, I was not that. What I did was very deliberate.
What did you do?
Speaker 5 (43:26):
And I blew him up? I blew him up. He
probably rolled like three times. I hit him really hard
in a practice drill in practice.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, man, it seems hostile.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It was, it was, but that was that was the
sign of the times back then. Though.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
That was like Marshall law damn right, you know, he
was kind of he was costing us games. It was
like our worst my worst high school season. There was
no reason why he should have been the quarterback of
the team. And I was frustrated that he kept selling
us on teams in games, and and so I I,
you know, one practice, I was just you know, I was,
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I was on a rush and I hit you.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I mean, listen, you can't have a North Hills hammer
unless you got a nail. He had to be the
nail that day.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I mean, I probably shouldn't have. I definitely shouldn't have.
But had we lost his services, we might have actually
been a better team. It wouldn't have been it wouldn't
have played out the way that it would have played
out if they lost Caleb Williams to an injury due
to getting hit by by a defender. That that, that
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doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I mean, it does bring a smile to my face, though,
because you've now taken the turn your team, Caleb.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's and that's I've.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Never been against Caleb Williams. I don't even know where
that's coming from. I don't know. I mean, just because
I was, I was making a assessment of of the
way he handled losing one game in particular, doesn't mean
I'm not a fan of the kids work.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I like, I like the way he plays. Get that.
I just didn't.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
I just did not in my mind think that that
made sense what he did. You know, I'm a stand
on that. I'm not going I'm not going to back
away from that.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
That what I said could get that work. That's correct.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Sais a man, right, says a man that I mean,
that says Dolly Parton, could get that work. I mean,
I understand the importance of bosoms I do, but just
not could get that work. But just not after a game.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You are a class act.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Not after you lose a game. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (45:51):
I understand one of the kind buddy I do.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
One of the kind she could.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I stand on a Dolly listen stand on that. There's
only a few. There's only a few people that I
risk it for, you know what I mean. And I'm
happily married. You know all that good stuff. But if
you're listening, you know we can we can make some
Southern comfort food and stuff like that, and you know,
and I could see working nine two five, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And all that type of stuff. So if you're listening,
you know all the show. You know
It's the best of two pros and Ray Winn and
Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good? Yeah, it's Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Everybody excited, everybody fantastic? Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No one tunnel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it's uh, I think.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It's me breathing, honestly, not I'm really thinking about Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's probably you breathing. Well, why didn't you say something?
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Well, how do you bring that up to you?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Var, you're breathing too heavy into the microphone. We thought
it was the issue. It's a complicated.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
We thought it was that, but we we didn't want
to point any fingers.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it's easier to plant on the wind.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
At least I know that you guys are willing to
let me walk around with a big, fat, yellow booger
in my nose, and I'll keep that in mind. I'll
make sure I check up on my own body extremities
and all that stuff when I'm out with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Cold blood, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Josh should have texted me and been like Vart the
wind tunnel means you're breathing too heavily.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I didn't know what it was I was just hoping
that it actually was a wind tunnel.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I mean, I really.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Was as opposed to LeVar heavily panting.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You're just as guilty as Q is because you put
it in the promo.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, but also in the background.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
On all these things and wind tunnels.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I'm glad it's such a slow day and sports that
you guys would choose to not tell me that I'll
breathing through heavily the mic.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Can we be honest that that's you know, that's what
we're going.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's all about making the show better.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And if we're going to be brutally honest about it,
and we're going to be rare breeds when it comes
to this. A lot of the topics we had on
Friday work garbage, okay, Like they were not very good.
So it really did make the show better. Like whatever
the theme was throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Was the expense of my heavy breathing into the microphone
that made the show better.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What it's worth. I'm happy about that. For what it's worth,
I really enjoyed it. I just want you to know
that far. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh come on, man, come on, come on, man, alight,
this bums me out.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Okay, shut up the show. There is training camp and
we know we're Q is right.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Where's the end?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You know? Yeah? Where am I at?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Where's Brady?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You got boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He definitely does.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Okay, Brady, you want to we we do?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You want to big the big unveil?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
That's right, That's that's right, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I am in Paris, reach on the ground here for
the twenty twenty four Olympics.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
We have stopped at no expense.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
I want to thank Scotch, pierro Don, Martin Jade lead
the lap who's helped.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Put this together behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
I was flowing here by the French kiss got a
sweet tooth. Come take a bite out of Europe's number
one bakery.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's right, I'm that's right. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, free kisses, balling, get that wark.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Come on, man, So how is it a.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Bunch of cake up in there? So?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
How how is it over there right now? Is there
like act anything going on? Like can you see any Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, there's there's a bunch of events going on right now.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Had an opportunity to walk around a little bit earlier,
saw the Eiffel Tower, saw the Champs de Laze, saw
a bunch of things. I'm not really sure what it was,
but it's it's quite the scene, quite the setup. People
walked around everywhere, different events going on, people representing their countries.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
So it's, uh, it's a pretty cool scene.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
I've never been to the Olympics since seen anything like
this before, so to being a foreign country and see it,
it's pretty incredible. I will admit this. It's hard not
to acknowledge the opening ceremonies. And as soon as I
got off the plane and got to do a taxi,
that was the first question the taxi driver asked me.
And given the controversy that it is created, I kind
(04:19):
of just said, you know, I didn't see a ton
of it, wasn't really sure what to make of it.
And then he started to go off, so not to
get off on that subject, however, he well, you might
have seen a guy's nutsack hanging.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Out to the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh that what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that was that?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Oh, it was for sure out there.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Hey, the Olympics are here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Get a load of that guy's cash and prizes behind
camera two.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Clearly there were some people who had an agenda and
i'll this way.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Based on this specific too.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
He was very upse and he said there's many other
people who are French who are upset by that, given
their rich history and many of their traditions, that they
were hoping they would display something else instead of what
was displayed. So that's one man's opinion, not mine, but
our our taxi driver. However, he said, there's a lot
of people who are upset with how the French culture
(05:20):
was portrayed during the opening ceremony. So not sure if
we throw that on NBC or who gets the blame
for that, But uh, they they've moved past it. However,
a lot of people are still talking about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Has that ever happened to you guys before?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Somebody put theirselves on display and you had to question
yourself as to whether you know they knew or not.
That's happened to me one time before, and it actually
was was. I won't I won't give too many details
because I don't you know, it's connected to you know,
a family member in my house, my oldest daughter. We
(05:58):
were we were at we were at a volleyball tournament
and one of the spectators there. I'll leave all of
that nameless, but certainly was was comfortable and leg cross
sitting position and was sitting across like well back across
(06:23):
from from the tenant of the court. And yeah, it
was It's like you turn, you turn to look at
the traffic, you turn to look at the kids warming up,
you know, hitting the balls ironically coincidentally hitting the balls
over the net, and boom like there there it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Was full full display. And yeah, yeah, and I don't
believe it was French, so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I was.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I was at a cookout once and there's an older
and they we actually deemed him the nickname Teddy longballs,
short pair of shorts on sat down.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Because you could imagine.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The pair of streets.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Got a nice look at a walnut.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
A pair of a pair of street sweepers. Huh. Another
thing that a right big deal. I mean, the problem is.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Those were unintentional. This felt very intentional what happened the
opening ceremonies, and you know, to people who had an
issue with it, you know, if you've got a kid
who wants to watch the opening ceremonies, they've been hearing
all about this. It's every four years and then you
turn that on. I can understand why people would have
a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I was watching with my daughters.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Were you really happened?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
They asked me, like, well, it's hard to see that
in real time, but there are some still shots obviously
that were able to realize what was happening.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
But there was so much going on that my my
two oldest girls were like, Dad, what what was that?
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I was like, they're not out of age to I
like fully understand what was happening. So not to distract
from sports, but I mean, it was disappointing in that
sense of like being a father and trying to like
explain to kids who aren't old enough to really understand
what's happening.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I'm sure glad I wasn't watching it. I'd have been, hey, y'all,
look at that. Look that's what you call? Uh Well,
I won't say what I was going to say, but
that would have probably been poor parenting.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I would have probably lar.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Your two balls.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
By the way, Labar, if you were wondering what what
he was referring to, Lee made sure to send over
a yeah, still I felt still picture with the arrow
pointing now to it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, I felt this, I felt the buzz.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm sitting here looking for the evidence of the situation
that I found myself in.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Heast got you covered?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Its good? Oh yeah, I'm glad you Wow. Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What are we doing? Can I tell you a gripe
I have with the Olympics?
Speaker 9 (09:12):
But do you see what I commented on it, which
was what, well, it's actually a Coop's comment that it's
a ripping the leggings to Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, and he didn't know what was going on?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Oh yeah, Coop, Yeah, you just didn't fill that form
out there.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
How about Okay, good call Coop, But this isn't tenty Kravits.
All right, he's not uh, he's not going.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He's not going. Are you going to go my way?
And then all of a.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Sudden, his h his leather pants split on stage and
he's got a gas pump hanging out.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You had to know that that that was You had
to know, you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Know, it was intentional like that.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
You don't make it, Coop?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Come on, yeah, come on, enough's enough crap, Coop.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You knock it off, cop Man, Hey, Coop, you're nuts
all right, absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I promise you that's not what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What's in the back cap?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh so you think those are prop nuts though they're
not nuts at all.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
It's his leg, is that what you're saying.
Speaker 10 (10:11):
No, it looks like his nuts is are hanging out,
but it's just he's wearing like these, I.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Know, I know what this looks like.
Speaker 10 (10:20):
He's wearing leggings and there's like a tear in the
leggings so the rest of his leg is darker, and
then the tear is the actual skin.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Do you get closer?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Can you get closer to actually take a look?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, get closer, Cooper, Get a little closer, Coop.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Coop there, tie his shoes for him and look up
and see what and.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And tell us that those aren't what we're saying they are.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Like it's not a skin tag like that, like those
like you know, that's his goods that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Are hanging out like they're not. But okay, it's funnier, all.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Right, Coop, tell us why you think that it's not?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Tell us again, tell us again.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Visual evidence, my eyeballs.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Who has who has a leg like that?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
You were classes, don't you? Yes? Yeah, I've seen those things.
They look like bifocals.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Is that they take them off, take them off and
look again, take them off.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
And I'm just saying, somebody begged me up because look
at the picture.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Where's the you might have like twenty sixty vision. I
don't know if you're the best person to tell us
what you see out there.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Okay, Well, the.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Fact that if you was wearing leggings, there's no way
those could be hanging out of.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's just say they're not leggings, they're tights.
Speaker 10 (11:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Those are tights which can easily get a hole, and
they do compress the rest of your thighs, so you
would get a bulge kind of coming out like that
guy does. Yes, but I do think it's thimy.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
I think it's thymy.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
This is our bulge, looking expert, Tang.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I'm just saying we're not looking for it, so.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Tang, I mean, damn, well, look, can I a legitimate
gripe I have with the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So and.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I don't know what events are live in real time?
Like the delay is throwing me off, I swear to God.
And the way that it's mapped out on television, like
if you want to find information about it, Like, I
really don't know if I'm watching an actual live event
or if I'm not, which makes it really and this is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The unfortunate part of all of this, which makes it.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Really difficult to gamble on because I would love to
gamble on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I would love to have the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't know what the hell's going on and whether
or not it's happening in real time.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
That's a problem I've I've got a buddy who's got
a very similar issue with that. That being said, he
did bet on the men's Olympic team in basketball sweet
and I will point out the fact that yes, they
beat Serbia. However, that being said, when Nikola Jokis was
on the floor with basically a bunch of future security.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Guards and been bouncers.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Damn they were even with the Olympic t he was
off the floor, it was like negative twenty six or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It was.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
So yeah, quite the showing for Nikolejokic, the two time MVP,
at least of late within the NBA, showcasing on a
world stage just how good he is against the best
in the NBA. That was pretty cool to watch, but
I'm glad USA won.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It is funny because it does get buried behind.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, the Celtics won the title, Bronni James controversy, all
the other fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, leg meat.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh and by the way, by the way, Joker still
the best player on the planet. And here's your evidence
of that on the biggest stage. So listen, we will
get a covered. But that is a major controversial moment
here on this show.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Apparently.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Wait, don't sleep on South Sudan.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Remember how we we were mocking the men's basketball team
for that close victory over South Sudan. Yeah, they actually
got their first win in men's basketball history.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
So kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
That squad looks like they actually might be so maybe
an indication of things that come in the future.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Are they tall? Yes, they are, damn and they.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
They're very athletic, LeVar very athletic.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
You know what. It reminds me of a movie I
once saw called Air Up There. Oh, good thing is
that the uniform?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Great movie was that Kevin?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's Kevin big enough? Is it the same uniform? I
can't think so why everybody can stop it?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Not sure what to refer to Johnson.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I just remember the movie I was just curious if
that's the same.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Utiful them South Sudan players are tall, Johnson, they are tall.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
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Speaker 4 (15:30):
We do know is that it was smart for the
Green Bay Packers to groom Jordan Love because he got paid.
He got paid, He's one year as a starter, and
he got a big fat contract from the Green Bay Packers.
The GM of the Packers, Brian Gudakun, spoke over the
(15:50):
weekend about the decision to sign Jordan love to the deal,
knowing what it would do to the cap, but knowing
they couldn't live without having him.
Speaker 12 (16:00):
Whenever you have these big contracts, there's there's some challenges
that we've dealt with that pretty much, you know, for
the past I don't know how many, however many years, So.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
That's part of it.
Speaker 12 (16:07):
But I would rather be dealing with this challenge and
some others, so you know, that's that'll be part of it.
It'll be important that we continue to draft well and
make good decisions along the way. But you know, having
that position stable and a guy who we know can
perform at a high level, I'll take that every day.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So that was that was a shot fire to me.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What do you mean that sounded like.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
A shot fire to me?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean it could you know, that could have been
like a little bit of you know, I may change my,
uh my assessment of the New York Jets because they
just gave Aaron Rodgers all the ammunition he needed to
have an MVP, all the motivation.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He said, I'd rather deal with this problem than others.
Got to catch that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean it's heard it.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah, I mean let's be clear here, Well let's let's
let's break this down a little further as we can.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Come on, let's do it, Johnson.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, I mean, if we're gonna do that, I mean
I do think it is appropriate.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Here and now for more on this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Two pros and a cup of Joe NFL contract analysts
Freight and te quid.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
All right, folks, let's break down the Jordan Love contract.
It's a four year, two hundred and twenty million dollars extension. Now,
remember he had a year left on his deal, So
not only is it built as a four year, two
hunred twenty million dollar contract, he's got a few voidable
(17:35):
years attached on the end of this.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Why is that important?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
But he's got a significant signing bonus, a seventy five
million dollar signing bonus, which is the biggest in NFL history.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So that is record breaking in that regard.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
And if you read a lot of the reports, you'll
hear that new Money average, that average annual value is
fifty five million per year and also is the highest.
But those are metrics that I don't really look at.
I look at total guaranteed and signing bonus. One hundred
and sixty million total guaranteed that is or I should
say is short of obviously Deshaun Watson's contract, but even
(18:07):
to a tongue a buy loa who signed earlier that
day with the Miami Dolphins for one hundred and sixty
seven million total guaranteed. So again everyone pumps up these contracts.
This is this is a great contract really for Jordan Love,
but also team and for this reason, Jordan Love's cap
hit this season is only twenty about point eight million dollars,
(18:31):
and even if as you look into twenty twenty five,
the cap hit is below thirty million dollars, that's reasonable.
That allows the team to still be able to work
out around it and put pieces around him. Under the
salary cap, it really doesn't get big until year four,
which at that point in time they've got a really
good idea of what Jordan Love is and what he's not,
as this contract is heavily backloaded. So that being the case,
(18:55):
I think the Green Bay Packers essentially said, look, we're
gonna give you a big signing bonus, we believe in you,
but in two or three years, we're not gonna be
crippled by this. And in two or three years, if
you're the quarterback, we think you are, we're probably gonna
be looking at another extension and we're gonna have to
reconfigure our cap then. Anyway, So good deal for Jordan Love,
good deal for the Green Bay Packers. I will say this,
(19:17):
it's a bit risky really. If you go back to
the one year he started up until week eleven of
last year, he didn't look great.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It was week.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Eleven onward, even into the playoffs, obviously, as we saw
the beatdown on Dallas where Jordan Love turned it on
through the regular season the one playoff game.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
However, that being said.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Brian gouden Kunst has gone through this before the general manager.
He was there when they did the transition from Brett
Farved Aaron Rodgers, and he's now the guy in charge
of the transition from Aaron Rodgers at Jordan Love, and
so he's seen this before, as has Mark Murphy, their
president and CEO. But as LeVar pointed out, there is
a lot you could make about the fact that what
(19:55):
Brian Gooden Coustin said and the fact that you know,
they get this deal done with Jordan Love breaking some
records for a quarterback that obviously hasn't accomplished as much
Aaron Rodgers did during his time there.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Boom boom, Yeah, that's how you break it down.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
By the way, I must have had that corn grid
from that bakery shouts out to the kids.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah rightag so when he did. I do also feel
like when these contracts come up. I was thinking about
this over the weekend, like it's always a debate like this,
so and so deserved the contract, that they deserve to
get paid and we can you know, break down and
get to the details of the TUA contract as well too.
But more often than not, almost always they end up
(20:41):
getting the deal done. Like the idea that they weren't
just you know, oh, he's gonna sit out longer, maybe
they won't get this done. Like who's the exception to
the rule Kirk Cousins in Washington years ago, like to
where they just franchised him a couple of times. But like,
if you have a guy, as Goodakunz pointed out, like
I'd rather deal with issues knowing to have a guy
(21:02):
than not have somebody and try and work around that.
And so I like, the only other time I could
think that it didn't happen was kirk Cousins. Other than that,
I can't think of another example.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
One if you go back to Kirk Cousins, the dollar
amounts for signing bonus and total guarantees weren't quite there yet.
Where you know, I think he looked at it and
said and then as we know based on what he
did afterwards with the Vikings, I mean, he got a
three year, fully guaranteed deal that might have been something
that he was asking for Washington at the time that
(21:31):
they just weren't willing to do, and he was able
to find it once he became a free agent, and
the money's escalated heavily since then. I mean, look at
his contract now. I mean, coming off an injury with
a new team, he gets a hundred million total guaranteed
at signing, So you know that was one of the
biggest differences then too. I still look at this deal
(21:52):
and I go back and even as good as it is,
I still harken back to the fact that they could
have gotten more if they felt this good about Jordan
Love after just one season. Remember, before last year he
signed an extension that gave the team all sorts of control.
Otherwise Jordan Love would have been staring at quite possibly
(22:14):
one of the biggest contracts we've ever seen, and this
is being billed as that, but if you really take
into account what he's going to be getting paid this
year along with the four years they tacked on top
of that, it doesn't come out to the fifty five
million average annual value that's the new money average.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So my whole point.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Is is everyone's going to be crediting athletes first. And
Andrew Kessler and David Moulugeta, however, they really could have
had a bigger contract had they rolled the dice and
done something similar to Kirk Cousins and not agreed to
an extension last year, and then we could be talking
about something truly and legitimately record breaking.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
M dang I.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Certainly was going to bring up the agency too and
ask you your opinion on the fact that the two
biggest contracts that were just done was done by that
same agency, see that you just just just named off.
But yeah, I mean, it looks like he's in perfect
position for as you mentioned, if he plays at a
(23:12):
high level, if he's playing the way they expect him
to play, that the restructuring, the kind of the moving
more backloaded money up and kind of doing it that
way seems like that's where it's going to go in
(23:33):
my estimation, which at the end of the day, he's
getting a lot of guaranteed money right away. I mean,
good for him on on striking striking that deal. Uh,
you know at this point could have got more, but
maybe didn't get more. I mean, these numbers are I
(23:56):
keep asking myself, when is when is it going to be?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like we can't go any higher?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Never just gets hired and higher.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I just don't It's kind of mind boggling to me
that they're able to continue to go up to these
these numbers that they're hitting.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I remember when people were Man of the Bengals really
given Andy Dalton seventeen million a year, like I can.
I can remember that conversation and yeah it was a
while back, but it wasn't that far back. And he's
getting fifty five a year. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Like I gotta feed my kids, man, you know, I
gotta get groceries.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty wild to think where the contract.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
What's wild is to a tongue of I looa has
already made thirty some million in his career. After the
end of this contract, you have made two hundred and
sixty five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Think about that. And this is no disrespect to Tua.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
You know, people don't understand, you know, if you compared
him and Jordan Love, Tua's got a body of work.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
He's proved improved every.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Single season, and he's been through adversity, I mean early
now with Brian Flores in the way he would get
taken out of the game and benched for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
You know, he's overcome all of that and really flourished.
And you can point to Tyreek Hill, who not only
one sidebar should be up for an extension at some point,
but two the impact he's had since Tyreek Hill has
gotten there, it's beside the point. I mean, Mike McDaniel
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went to bat for Tua. He believes in Tua and
that's a big piece of it. But he's also got
a lot of film and tape to showcase and say
this is why I feel good about it. You know,
Jordan Love really again has last season Week eleven onwards,
and so there's no guarantee that this is going to
work out well for Green Bay like it did when
they did this with Aaron Rodgers during his first year
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of starting experience, so there's still a lot of time
love to see how these things play themselves out. What
I find most interesting about this with too, and we
still have to see the details of all the contract,
is the litany of injuries he had coming into the
league and they and even early on when he was
you know, getting.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Banged up in the concussion issue.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
If you look at the total guarantees, I mean, I
want to see the fine print to see if they
protected themselves for that potential. But I will say this,
and I don't know if you have time for this
or not. The way he was introduced to the crowd
the day after signing, that's Randy Camp was a bit cringe.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean, the show me the money crap.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Like not cringe.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'd like to use the latest to the latest, the
latest slangs.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
To expe It was cringe.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It was, and honestly, that should void the contract.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It so bad.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like if I were the Dolphins, I'd be like, all right,
you know, like who else we got? Who is that
quarterback that's started a playoff game for them two years ago?
That was like it was a Skyler Thompson, Like I
would I would give half of that to Skyler Thompson
and say, hey, listen, after what he just pulled at practice,
we're done here, Like wait, way too much. And then
he said some coach or some assistant told him to
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do it. Whoever told you to do it, they should
be fired. That was awful and disgusting and I was
not even aware of it until Brady sent it over,
and just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you know, he's he's good to go though. Miami's
got their guy.
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Speaker 4 (27:42):
As you maybe have listened earlier in the show, but
if you're new to the show this hour and you're
just tuning in and trying to find out what we've
been talking about, big news here. Big news here was
the discussion of the opening ceremonies controversy over whether or
not some guy that is, uh, yeah, some guy had.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
His either way hanging out either.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Way opening ceremonies.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Call't but like, how can you what do you mean
leg meat that? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
More?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I'm looking at it it creates like a bit of
an optical illusion. I'm kind of with with Raina and
and uh Coop and Coop Man.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know how anybody thinks that that's thie meat.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
It's it looks like I would I would co sign
with Raina. I would co sign with Raina. I don't
know that to co signed with Coop. I've seen this
classes man, So damn you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You're right, Coop does have thick, thick glasses. But upon
driving back and forth, you're right. You ain't lying, you're
saying Coop.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I would also say this based on the rest of
the outfit. Yeah, I'm gonna go with you know.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You're going to stick with where you act? Say it?
Go ahead, say it.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, Look, ornaments, it's too early for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I mean not for that guy.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Guys, guys walking around with his skin fruit out and
and we're just about to sit here and pretend like
it's legging me.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
That's a good one right there, that he's heading to
the gym with his ball bag.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You know, tang.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Tang, what brand of never mind? Speaking of?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
I should announce to you guys that I am here
in Paris, boots on the ground, all expenses paid to
be able to be here, and this hour is specifically
brought to you by Paris Pipes, Francis go to for
all things plumbing.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You need your pipes.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Cleaned, leta ty our hair back and get that work.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You're the best.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
That's the most amazing read for a company that I've
ever heard.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Hey, Paris Pipes, great job, great and.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
They're probably pretty busy with that crap water that that
everybody seems to be satuated with.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Lee keeps thinking they're swimming.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
How much money would you have to be paid to
swim in the sad river right now?
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Give me, give me unlimited UH funds prestige and we're
good to go.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What is prestige? Prestige is my UH word?
Speaker 9 (30:33):
What my quarter of store?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh, by the way, I had a uh since we're
on the topic, I had a segment idea that I
threw it leave and I wanted to see if you
guys get that work. A lot of plumbers have long
hair over there here, like, I don't know who came
(30:59):
up with this and puts let me tell you they're brilliant.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I got nothing to thank you.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Thank you the French kiss and Paris pipes.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
This isn't a French escort male escort service that bag.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I had a segment idea that that I wanted
to throw at you guys, because I threw it at
Lee and it's kind of a play. You remember that
bit we did where the NBA had their all NBA
team and so Lee came up with his all liquor
store team.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
All right, So, yeah, did you see that video? I said,
Lebron and Brownie did that?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, what is it? So?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Here was my idea, A top like we'll call it
Lee's liquor store list. It's a top or bottom five
that he surprises us with once a week, and it's
basically top five or bottom five.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Categories at a liquor store. It could be.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Snacks, hard alcohol, mini bottles, beers, glass like you name it.
But Lee will come up with something every single week
and surprise us with it. And I feel like it's
going to create a lot of controversy and a lot
of conversation.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
What do you think.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I'm always in for a Lee de Lap segment.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, I'll be okay with it.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, so I want you maybe we'll effort that we'll
get some imaging done and we'll put that together.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
I'll put in some hard research.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Are you.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I gotta I gotta get my stuf.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Ask a question?
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Behind scenes, I feel like sometimes we send in some
of these notes sometimes, like you end up doing this
rundown like way early in the night.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Is that is that fair to.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Say, well, early in the night?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Does that mean?
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I'm not exactly sure what you mean earlier the night
for us? Sometimes people say earlier late like early in
the day or late at night.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Or early in the night time, Like so there's nighttime,
late at night I would be like two am.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Early the night would be like eight pm.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Yeah, yeah, No, I means sometimes I get to him
like early in the day, like noon or five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Sometimes I go, he can have his night in late night.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Sometimes, y.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
I usually try to power through it in between my sessions,
you know what I mean. There's there's before and.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Afters youre sessions because that's where we're calling them.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I'm just looking.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm just looking at this video of ours.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Or somebody put somebody put Bronnie's face on arn Anderson
and put the bronze face on Rick flair with.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Mean Jean in the middle interviewing him. Oh my people
gotta get a life.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Man, it's so good. It's so Bronnie. I mean, it's
both of them. It's so good. Man. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I'm so glad I'm not famous. I didn't deal with this.
It's unbelievable. Oh well, look, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's so good. The way Bronn standing.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
There, now you know that? Uh you know, you know
that Bronnie went to us C. I don't know if
you guys were aware of that. He went to the
us C. You know who else went to the USC
Caleb Williams and uh to he did you know where else?
Jordan Adison goes seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's where he goes.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
By the way, lead, does Jordan Maison go to your
liquor store?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
No?
Speaker 9 (34:59):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like appearances?
Speaker 9 (35:01):
I do see a Rolls Royce parked outside all the time,
so that might hang him.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, just go knock on the windows, go knock on
the window and wake him up.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So everybody's getting.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
It today, everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So Caleb Williams was at practice over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
They were doing some.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Drills and apparently Montest Sweat got a little bit too frisky.
Matt Eberfluse, the head coach of the Bears, spoke about
a decision to pull Montest Sweat from the drill based
on the rough house of his new franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
He knows he.
Speaker 13 (35:39):
Should not do that. I threw him out of the
drill today and then I pulled him aside and I said, look,
I said, you cannot do that. You'll be sick if
something happens. Okay, And that's what I told him. He
understands that. And does he get around there fast and
all that stuff? Yeah, he does, but he also has
he's a superior elite athlete.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
He's good enough to be able to stop and move away.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So he's got to be just on that way and
he will the future.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So if he's their best defender.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
That's wow to Like hear a pro coach say that
about a pro player.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's wild to me, Like, does that land wrong with
people inside the building there?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
For this is one time where I honestly say it's
a defender. Listen, if I'm on that defense and that's
my d n coming off the edge and he hits
our quarterback I'll probably be the first one to say, bro,
stay off of me.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Man, what you're doing? Like, Taz, what you're doing?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Like, what are you doing right past? Can I ask this?
I mean, obviously I haven't seen the hit any contact.
Usually it's gonna draw some concern from the head coach,
et cetera, because you don't you want to kill the
Williams just to get to the season healthy and give
you guys a chance of going to the playoffs and win.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But Montes, what's been in the NFL about what five
years or so.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
All I'm saying is, as a defender, especially a leader
on that defense, is there a little bit in the
back of your mind of like, hey, this guy's a rookie.
He's got to earn it, because when you compare it
to other quarterback situations, it's different. You know, most these
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guys who are rookies are in some sort of quarterback competition,
whether it's you know, Drake May and Jacoby Brissett, whether
it's Sam Darnold, JJ McCarthy, Kirk Cousins, Michael Pennix, if
you want to call it that, Bo Nix and Jared
Stidham and Zach Wilson I mean you could even say
Jayden Daniels maybe and then looking at what's on their
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roster too, but maybe not so much with him, but
still with Caleb, it's like he's it man and Tyson
Begent's the backup. Is there anything in the back of
your mind where you're thinking, as a defensive player, like, hey,
not only do we need to test him, but also
like we to kind of prepare him for what he's
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about ready to get week in a week out in
the NFL regular season. No, No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
No, I wouldn't even hit the backup quarterback because it's
not it's not there's nothing productive that comes from you
making contact.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
With the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Seemed legitimately pissed by it.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Also, again I'm saying though, like bumping into him, because
I've seen guys before when they've bumped into quarterbacks where
it's like they get yelled at, and it's like that
wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Like I understand love bump is one thing, and I
would say a love bump would be like on a
run play, if that man is in any type of
throwing motion and you bump him or anything like that,
that's a hell No, that's not just a no, that's
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a like bro like like we're gonna come back into.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
This soft on as far No you got no.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
No.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I had to yoke little man man man up yesterday.
I'm still strong, my guy. Let me tell you something.
I get it in and I get it in where
it's right and where where it's just like it's got
to be justified tight what right? Anyway, My point is,
you don't touch the quarterback. There's no reason he's the
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only player on the field outside of the punter that
you just don't.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
You don't touch. You don't touch them.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
So the chicken, so the chicky you touch.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You could touch the kicker if if we were doing
if we were doing, yeah, you can touch a kicker.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Wait, so you think the punter is more important kicker.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I'm not saying he's more I'm just saying, within context
of what takes place, if the punter, like if it
was like a John Hall like shuts.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Out to my boy John Hall.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
If well, if you were to kick the ball and
you started running downfield, a guy may put his hands
on you to act as though simulate he's blocking you.
He can put his hands on you. Now punters is
just generally they go towards the sideline. They should go
towards the sideline. They should not be an eleventh man
outside of kicking the ball or punting the ball on
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that play. You don't really touch punters, but you don't.
You certainly don't touch. The only time a quarterback can
be touched is if he's running Scout team.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
That's the only time you touch a quarterback. And that
and even then that's still kind of questionable. That's questionable
college not so much pros So no, no, because you
know that that backup that that you know, that Scout
team quarterback is literally your backup quarterback, so you don't
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touch him.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
By the way, you know who's got intimate knowledge on this.
They told me before the show. Hey Lee, why did
you Why don't you tell the story of that little
kid that you assaulted when you were playing football?
Speaker 9 (41:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, my peewee years. I made the mistake
of swinging my quarterback into the ground and closing down
practice because I concuss and knocked out my quarterback. I
still feel bad about that. I still apologize to you.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Boy. Sorry, Kyle Good hit Buddy Good, hit.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Lee if I was in high school and I saw
Lee do something like that, I put my hands on
my hips. I'd shake my head and I point to
the to the coach or the decordinator and be like, dude,
can you get this kid out of king?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Can you get him out of here? Man, get him
out of here?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Put your hands on new hips, all my.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Hips and disappointment, like, dude, can you get him out
of here?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Like what is he doing? What? Like? Hey, what's your name?
What are you doing? Bro?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Get in a huddle, get over here, man, come here,
like I like your energy, I like your hold on.
Let me just get this straight.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
The guy that you have been hard on for the
whole crying in his mom's bosoms after a loss.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yes, you were saying, doesn't heed tough enough at all?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Not that way. Oh, not that way, not not in
not not that way.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Now there's there's I mean, listen at this point, if
that's if he still can go jump up and.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Montest Sweat had some big bosoms that he hit him with,
would that change how you feel about this?
Speaker 8 (42:38):
Mm?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
No, because he would have to run to Montest Sweats bosoms,
and then that would be really that would be an
even bigger problem. That would be a bigger problem. He
couldn't run into him with his big bosoms. It would
have to be Caleb running for his and if he
were doing that, gotcha, Yeah, yeah, I assure you did.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
There.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Know, Hey, I do have a question though, of our like,
what was one quarterback that you played with that you
would have loved to have lit.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Up in practice? Well?
Speaker 5 (43:09):
I did that in high school one time, and they
tried to kick me off the team. They tried to
get my head coach fire too, because they thought he
told me to do it.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I was acting on my own.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
So you were Montest Sweat before Montest Sweat.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
No, I was not that. What I did was very deliberate.
What did you do?
Speaker 5 (43:26):
And I blew him up? I blew him up. He
probably rolled like three times. I hit him really hard
in a practice drill in practice.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, man, it seems hostile.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It was, it was, but that was that was the
sign of the times back then. Though.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
That was like Marshall law damn right, you know, he
was kind of he was costing us games. It was
like our worst my worst high school season. There was
no reason why he should have been the quarterback of
the team. And I was frustrated that he kept selling
us on teams in games, and and so I I,
you know, one practice, I was just you know, I was,
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I was on a rush and I hit you.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I mean, listen, you can't have a North Hills hammer
unless you got a nail. He had to be the
nail that day.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I mean, I probably shouldn't have. I definitely shouldn't have.
But had we lost his services, we might have actually
been a better team. It wouldn't have been it wouldn't
have played out the way that it would have played
out if they lost Caleb Williams to an injury due
to getting hit by by a defender. That that, that
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doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I mean, it does bring a smile to my face, though,
because you've now taken the turn your team, Caleb.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's and that's I've.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Never been against Caleb Williams. I don't even know where
that's coming from. I don't know. I mean, just because
I was, I was making a assessment of of the
way he handled losing one game in particular, doesn't mean
I'm not a fan of the kids work.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I like, I like the way he plays. Get that.
I just didn't.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
I just did not in my mind think that that
made sense what he did. You know, I'm a stand
on that. I'm not going I'm not going to back
away from that.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
That what I said could get that work. That's correct.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Sais a man, right, says a man that I mean,
that says Dolly Parton, could get that work. I mean,
I understand the importance of bosoms I do, but just
not could get that work. But just not after a game.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You are a class act.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Not after you lose a game. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (45:51):
I understand one of the kind buddy I do.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
One of the kind she could.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I stand on a Dolly listen stand on that. There's
only a few. There's only a few people that I
risk it for, you know what I mean. And I'm
happily married. You know all that good stuff. But if
you're listening, you know we can we can make some
Southern comfort food and stuff like that, and you know,
and I could see working nine two five, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And all that type of stuff. So if you're listening,
you know all the show. You know
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