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July 31, 2024 49 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Titans DE Jeffrey Simmons gets into it with radio host Buck Reising live on the air. The Jets sitting Aaron Rodgers in the preseason will set a soft precedent. The Jets sitting Aaron Rodgers throughout the preseason sets a soft precedent.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Arrington, Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we're on right now on one oh four five
the Zone in Nashville. It's one of our fine Fox
Sports Radio affiliates. And did a little bit of a
dust up on air yesterday where Jeffrey Simmons, the star
defensive lineman for the Tennessee Titans, apparently was upset with

(00:37):
Buck Rising, who's a local host there in Nashville, does
a good job there late mornings into the early afternoons
from ten to one, and apparently did not like maybe
some of the comments that Buck had made about him,
and you know, maybe some penalties or roughhousing at practice
or whatnot. And so while on the air, Jeffrey Simmons

(01:00):
walked by where they were broadcasting from Titans training camp
and it's had a little bit like this.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Jeff, you want to sit down, we can talk whatever
you want to talk. We'll deal with that later. Roger
McCreary sitting down with us here on one O four
five Zone. Jeff, I mean we're on the air right now.
I'm right here, Jeff. We can talk anytime you.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Want to unbelievable, we gotta make that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, we'll deal with that later on Roger McCreary sitting
down with us here on one O four to five zone. Jeff,
if you want to sit down and talk about this,
we can talk about this. I'm talking to you right here, Jeff.
We tried to talk to you last week. I'm being
rude to Roger. Will deal with you later.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I mean, everybody's on edge, all right, everybody just relax, Okay,
it's hot your training camp, trying to get ready for
the season.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
He didn't seem bother three centments. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Oh, let me look this fello up, because he definitely
was very uh comfortable. He was totally comfortable with all right.
He looks like one of them type guys. So you know,
one of his one of his pictures, he he you know,

(02:23):
he's got a cigar in his hand, and I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
He looks like one of them guys. So you know,
he got one of them. Tate looks to him one
of those you know.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
The dude, the dude that be on social media, the
dude that got arrested overseas and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Guy Andrew.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
He kind of has that Tate ba that.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Andrew Tate was handle that later.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Andrew Tate was a either a kickboxer or a muay
Thai fighter.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, he trained, he does that stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
But this, this, this joker has that type of looking too.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Good for you, buck, You're trying to do a broad
that's a professional broadcaster there, part of the Fox Sports
Radio family.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Good for you broadcast.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
He looks unbothered, and by this picture that I just
found of him, it seems to work for him.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
It works out for him.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
Yeah, does it?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
It is?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It is great though that for those of you wondering
what the bleeped out word was starts with.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
A P and why yes, and it ain't pretty.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, definitely is it. It's that it's that word that
that is used.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
Quite what's wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Man?

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Damn?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
I'm just saying, he ain't. No, he ain't. He ain't
a scrub. I'll tell you, Oh bad.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I just I do like I do like the fact
that you know you're doing a broadcast and you know
an NFL player walks by and calls you the P
word twice while on the air, like it just with
no regard for hey, we're on the air right now.
I remember doing a live remote at we were at
Tory Pines in La Joya and we were with Jay

(04:16):
Moore and Jaymore is on the air, and David Wells
walks by and he was already like half in the
bag and he was like, you know, walking around the
course because he might have been he was going to
play around or whatever, but you know, the open was
happening that weekend and just had no thought to, oh,
you guys are on the air right now, it's a
live broadcast, and was just dropping every F bomb you

(04:38):
could pop, like we ran out of dump buttons, like
there was nothing we could do, like totally held hostage
by day. And it wasn't like a combative exchange or anything.
He was just saying hello and he was having a
couple of cocktails. And Jeffrey Simmons sees a broadcast going
on and she's like, you know what, I'll drop the
P word twice and see how that goes over the air.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
That's a big dude, man, It's huge. Jeffrey Simmons is
a big dude. But but but homeboy must have just felt
like he was safe, like Buck right, what is it rising?
I'm yes, he must have just felt like, you know,
there's no you know, like you're saying we're going to
handle this later, like the way that he said he

(05:17):
said it in a way like like how what exactly
are you insinuating how you're going to handle it? Like
I don't think he meant it at all. Of course,
physically I don't think he managed it that way, but
the kind of just like the way he did it,
there was not an ounce of I'm scared or nervous

(05:42):
or whatever it could be, like are you I don't know, man,
I just feel like if you have a dude as
big as as Jeffrey rolling up on you like that,
feeling the way that he's feeling, I wouldn't be so
dismissive like I'm on I'm on air, I'm on radio, Like.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Do you not see what I'm doing? You? You don't
want it?

Speaker 6 (06:06):
You want to be disrespectful to your teammates stuff like that,
Like some dudes, when you're on that field and and
you play the position he plays, and there's a lot
of of contact taking places, there's a lot of STU
to testoone, Yeah, a lot a lot of that you know,

(06:26):
that's that's you know, kind of circulating through your body.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
You know, you can.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Make you can make poor decisions, Jonas, there can be
poor decisions that are made, and whether for right or
for wrong, it just seemed like he was so dismissive
towards it. I mean, I'm I'm just being honest, Like
I'm thinking about how I was as a player, And

(06:53):
I'm not saying I was a loose cannon or I
was out of control or anything like that. But I
just know this, if somebody was talking so bad about
me that it made me feel like I needed to
do what Jeffrey Simmons did in that in that moment,
he should be more aware of That's I don't know, man,
that just it just that's that's a little that's a

(07:16):
little perplexing that he wasn't a little bit more like,
you know, to me, I'd have been like, let's go
to break, let's go to break and and and then
we handle it from there. Like y'all didn't see what
it looked like from a physical standpoint, I'm only listening
to the SoundBite of it. Maybe if I were able
to see what it looked like like, maybe the dude

(07:39):
wasn't in like arms distance of him or anything like that.
I don't know what the proximity because you can barely
hear him, you know what I mean, Like you can't
really hear Jeffrey Simmons. So maybe they just weren't very
close and that was why he was able to count.
But even then, at some point, don't you think y'all
going like get get in close quarters or proximity of

(08:02):
one another.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I would say this, you know, I probably wouldn't expect
Jeffrey Simmons to be a weekly.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Guest on the Buck Rising show there on the Zone.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, I would think that that's a great conclusion. But
I'm just thinking about safety, Like I just don't want
to be like why would you be like I don't care. Okay,
you take them to court, you get a settlement, whatever
it may be, Like put your hands on me, you're
gonna pay me, like.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Like forget about that man.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Like it sounded like he could possibly hurt that man,
you know what I mean, Like it sounded like he
was so irritated by that he was letting him know
how irritated he was with him, and the way the
dude responded to him, that could have escalated it.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
Oh man, let's listen to it one more time.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Tell me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
I mean, maybe if I hear it a second time,
I'll feel differently. But it feels as though he was
almost in a way he was kind of like kind
of like pokinging, like he was kind of like agitating
it and and kind of instigating it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Then let's listen to it again.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
We can talk whatever you want to talk. We'll deal
with that later. Roger McCreary sitting down with us here
on one O four five Zone.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Jeff.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean we're on the air right now. I'm right here, Jeff.
We can talk anytime you want to. Unbelievable. We gotta
make that happen. Well, we'll deal with that later on
Roger McCreary sitting down with us here on one O four.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Five the Zone.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Jeff, if you want to sit down and talk about this,
we can talk about this. I'm talking to you right here, Jeff.
We tried to talk to you last week. I'm being
rude to Roger. Will deal with you later.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
I would not have beat him up, but I would
have yoked his ass up. I might I might have
put my hands on his shirt. I would They would
have had to try. Like he must have been far
enough away. It's all I can say, is what I'm thinking.
Or they must have a prior relationship where they know
each other well enough where he felt comfortable addressing him

(10:10):
that way.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean, I'll tell you this right now, Like if
that was me and you were walking by and you
were calling me the P word, I mean like I
would have met you halfway, Like that's how that would
have gotten handled.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
You would have gotten this work.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, I'm not a valiant dude, you know what
I mean. Like, so oh damn, damn. Okay, well then
there's that. I guess.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Iund like what you did to my guy, Cordell Stewart.
I still haven't got over.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
I haven't found that.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I haven't found the video, but I did find an
article on it, and they referenced the hit on Troy Aikman, which.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
WHI should show you how violent it was on Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
It was violent, bro, it had the same his was.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
I mean, take this, you know for what it's worth,
because I'm not a barbarian, but I am a warrior.
It was worse than the It was worse than the
the Troy Aikman hit.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Really, Oh it was worse.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Was it?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
And he was with Pittsburgh or was when.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
He was with Ptsburgh? He was with Pittsburgh. Damn, I
don't remember that he was with Pittsburgh. And I'm pretty
certain it was a preseason it was a preseason game.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I know he got Can cussed. I saw on the
article that Cordell got Can cussed out.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
It was bad, and I know I'm pretty certain he knew.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
It was me like like I'm gonna run, I'm slash
you know, I know LeVar since he's in high school,
Like I'm about embarrassing with this speed, I'm gonna get
out of bounce like everything's going to be good. Like no,
I ran down, tracking down in that Serengetty. If if

(11:52):
that was real life Sarrengetty, we was about to eat
like the the the Pride was going to eat that day.
I took him down and I slammed him so hard,
and I knew I was going to I knew I
was going if I when I was running to get him.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I was like, you gotta get him, you gotta get him.
You gotta get him, get him, get him, get right,
get there.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
And I got ahold of him and I slammed him
down so hard.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
I was like, that's a wrap.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
And I stood up on him, like stood up like hey,
that's what I do. And he tried to jump up
with me. You know how dude like tries to jump
up with you because I pop up quick.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I popped up quick.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
He tried to jump up with me, took like one
step or two, went right on back downs like nope.

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Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now, we did tease last hour towards the end of
the hour a really disgusting thing that is happening at
the Olympics.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Lee, we didn't have time to get it.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
And in case you missed it, but do you want
to go ahead and share the details on this, because
I'm sure LeVar is going to feel a certain kind
of way.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
About this story.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yes, that is right, because once I saw the story,
I knew LeVar had to hear it. So in case
you missed this, American triathlon competitor Seth Wrider American by
the way, Yeah, American triathlon competitor Seth Writer has been
working hard to prepare for the Olympics in Paris. He's
gone so far as to even stop washing his hands
after using the toilet in order to prepare for the

(14:08):
E cola that he would be in contact with in
the sen River. He said this, we know that there's
going to be ecoli exposure, so I just try to
increase my ecoli threshold by exposing myself a bit to
E coli on my day to day life. It's actually
backed by science proven methods. Just little things throughout your day,
like not washing your hands after you go to the
bathroom and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
How about that bar? What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (14:32):
About sounds of what Q was saying that that body
of water look like. If they're using that saying body
of water that we've been discussing, I just think that
that's not even that's not even feasible to think that
you've done enough to be prepared for swimming in that

(14:53):
water and for what it's worth.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I don't understand how. I mean, I don't know it.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
If that's what you have to do in your preparation,
how about there, let's start right there. If that's what
you have to do to prepare for what you're about
to do.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
To compete, something is wrong. Something is wrong.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
If if you're if, if you're if it's not physically
the case that's being challenged, but it's it's like sanitarily
challenging you. It's it's like, what if what if something
I don't know, man, What what if you had some

(15:36):
type of illness or something that came about that was
life changing forever for what like the chance to get
a gold medal? Like I don't I don't think.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
So, man, I don't that doesn't that doesn't add up
to me.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I mean, this is a nice story by this guy
to say this is all about preparation. He's disguising the
fact that he's a slob. Is really what this is?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Is that how you feel.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
About he's a foul, disgusting human being who doesn't wash
his hands after he takes a crap.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
And now had a reason to say why he doesn't.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
It's like that same guy.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I mean, we talk.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
About this all the time about being in restaurants and
going to the restroom and the toilet flushes and you
know it just got blown up. Yes, and they just
walk out, like put their hand on the door handle,
go right on back out. They'll shake somebody's hand on
the way high five, somebody start eating their food with

(16:36):
their hands.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Like this happens all the time. So I'm not you know,
I'm not shocking.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's like it's like the guy, Like I love when
people try and disguise what the real reason is with
like you know something that that shows you know, real grit,
a real method to their madness, like something that's advanced,
like there was this guy. It just came out like
when they did the opening ceremonies. Somebody from on the

(17:02):
Italian Olympic team they dropped. The story was they dropped
their wedding ring in the river, and so posted a
message on social media talking about how devastated they were,
how much they loved their wife. It's a heartbreaking moment
and apologizing through and through blah blah blah blah blah.

(17:24):
That's code for I threw that bastard into the water
because I'm going to go out and get loose, and
you know what, I don't want anybody seeing that ring
on my finger and thinking, you know what, I don't
want to be hamstrung by this whole thing. So that
he could try and sit here and say, well, it
was just by accident. No, no, no, there was a method.
He had something else going on. I don't buy it
for a second. People are full of crap, man, and

(17:48):
apparently this guy's full of crab and doesn't wash after
each Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Literally.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
By the way, who knew Jimmer Ferdett was on the
three on three US men's basketball team. How about that?
Good for Jimmerferdett. He used to play like prison inmates.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
Didn't even know that they had three on three basketball
in the Olympics.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
The things you learn, man, you know, all for a
gold medal.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Things people do, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
So with that being said, this is something that I
know is near and dear to your heart, LeVar. You've
been wondering, like you have been like literally like every
single day, sending a text message, Hey, is he gonna play?

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Is he gonna play?

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Are they going to be?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
We talked last hour about Kayleb Williams and the Bear
starters not playing in the preseason opener, the Hall of
Fame game coming up on Thursday. LeVar has been really
really into whether or not Aaron Rodgers is going to
play in the preseason, like he has demanded answers, and
so Robert Sala stepped up yesterday and spoke about his decision.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
Would he played any preseason snaps.

Speaker 10 (18:51):
We haven't really talked about it. My instinct right now
as I stand here.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Is we'll see, as we'll see.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Just think is no.

Speaker 10 (19:02):
But but I want to leave it open that that
third game is the one where we're designed. So he
definitely won't play the first two. But the discussion on
the third one we just haven't quite had yet.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So he's leaning towards not playing him in the preseason. Now,
this is I believe my math is correct on this.
So let's just say hypothetically they go by what Robert style,
but Robert Stala's instinct is, which is to not.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
Play him in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So what you're telling me is that he's had fourteen
snaps preseason included last year in a year and a half,
fourteen snaps, and the first time back, you want it
in real time against the Niners on Monday Night to

(19:53):
open up the year on the road. Look, I get
that he's of the greatest of all time, but wouldn't
you at least want to like dust off the cobwebs
in a preseason game or two before you get out
there and have to deal with the Niners and Nick
Bosa and Fred Warner and those murderers in San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Your first game.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Back, Well, I mean, he didn't see it fit to
be a mini camp. Oh damn, I mean, why do
you need the preseason? Let's just get to it.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
Enough with this stuff.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Is it gonna be an unexcused absence for the pre preseason?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Say?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Why didn't he just go to Egypt? Right now? That's
four weeks, that's a month.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Put your hand upon e jips.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
We did just stupid.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Hey, man, listen, I don't know, man, Like, at some
point somebody's going to.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Have to explain to me what this is all about.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Like, I really believe that we've gotten to a point.
And I've said this before, and I don't like the
venture outside of the parameters of sport, just because I
just don't want to have those types of conversations. I
don't I have them in my private life. I do
not have them in public forms because people can handle

(21:29):
the truth and I don't like getting caught up into
those types of conversations. Our society has weakened. You could
see it in the obesity level. You can see it
in the enrollment of our armed forces. You can see
it in the decline in our first responders. There are

(21:49):
so many different things that can can show you that
you can identify that we have become very, very soft.
You know, physical education used to be a requirement you
had to do basically basic training. When you were in

(22:10):
school and doing PHIZZAD. It was almost like you were
preparing to go to war in gym class. That doesn't
exist anymore. I feel like our culture has gotten so
our society has gotten so soft. And that's me keeping
it light because all this other stuff seeing you know,

(22:35):
dudes walk out of women's bathrooms and stuff like that,
and all this stuff going on, that's just buffoonery and
just total utter confusion to me as to what the
identities of these people are and the people who are
raising them.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
What are your identities?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
I feel like our society has gotten super super soft.
It's crazy soft, and you see it popping up in
places where it shouldn't pop up. I really believe the
idea of thinking that it's too risky to do your job, Like,

(23:23):
let me rephrase that. No, no, no, I don't want
to rephrase it. Let me phrase it, let me state
it again. So you're telling me that it's too risky
to allow this person to do their job. Just let

(23:45):
it sink in, man, Like I don't. I don't get it.
Like I understand, the preseason serves its purpose, and the preseason,
generally speaking, is to give guys the opportunity to make
the roster. We stayed at that in the first hour,
but the preseason is also in my estimation from what

(24:07):
I gathered when I played and before I played, and
when I watched as a fan. The preseason is also
for the starters to get live reps against other teams.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
That's what the preseason was.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
It's it's these are games where you can get live
reps perfect like timing, like quarterbacks can actually get hit,
you know, players can.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Get tackled live reps.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
By a different team, so that you could get your
timing down, so that you can get film that you
can go figure, you could actually study to work on
what it is that you need to improve upon. And
the games don't count, so you can make those mistakes
and you have the opportunity to get those corrections. By

(24:57):
the time you get to the third preseason, your starters
are in pretty good condition and they can play all
the way into the third quarter. They'll play the whole
first half, and they'll play a series or two, maybe
a series in the in the second half, and then

(25:18):
they come out. That's how it's always been, and it's
turned into something totally different. And to think that it's
it's like for what for what is it because of
the concussions epidemic? Is it because of the amount of
money they're paying these guys?

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Is it? Like?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
What is it really that you're saying to me that
their job, the job that they're getting paid millions of
dollars to do, We're not going to have them do
their job for what. It makes absolutely zero sense to
me that this is where football has gotten that guys

(26:05):
don't play. Oh, he may get hurt, there's no reason
to risk it. What's the benefit of it, Well, then
don't have the game.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's kind of wild to think about that entire like
how many jobs, because like, let's just say the entire staff.
And I forget who it was that brought this up recently,
but they said one of the one of the parts
that doesn't get talked about a lot is that when
a coach gets fired, there's always people calling for jobs.
Like it might have been Dave Wantstatt in an interview

(26:33):
I heard say this once, but he said, you know
what a lot of people don't talk about is when
a coach gets fired, it's not just the coach who
gets fired that the fans are calling for. It's all
of the people on his staff, people who maybe aren't
making you know, a significant amount of money, that all
of a sudden they're being uprooted, like financially they're in
a different spot. Than this coach who's getting millions, and

(26:55):
like there's a lot of people impacted by somebody losing
their job in sports, it's like a coach. So basically
what Robert Sala is saying is that this entire organization
and dozens of jobs all are depending on Aaron Rodgers'

(27:16):
body being healthy, is basically what he's saying. Like, because
if Rogers is hurt and they put together a season
like they did last year, everybody's gone and everybody there
knows it. So it almost feels like they've got him
bubble wrapped just to get to the season and then well,
whatever happens happens, and I look at it and go, yeah,

(27:37):
But wouldn't you feel like if you were coming you
you ruptured your achilles when you were coming back from
your Achilles, Like, wouldn't you want I know, but like
if you were going to come back, like, wouldn't you
want at least like some preseason action, like just just
just to know before you get to real game action.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Zonus, it's its job.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Like what I don't I don't I don't understand, Like
this seems so foreign.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
To me, Like I guess I'm old school.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
I guess I guess I'm outdated, and I guess the
way I think is not feasible or sensible.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's my job.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
I'm preparing all off season. I should be able to
go in there and play. I should want to go
in there and play. I should need to go in
there and play. I should have to go in there
and play because it's my job. Like I don't care

(28:45):
like somebody is here to replace me, somebody here is
trying to replace me.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
I'm going to do.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
My job, and I'm going to try to do my
job at the highest level, and I'm going to do
what's asked of me.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to deliver that.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Whether I'm a first ballot, bonafide Hall of Famer, whether
I'm Patrick Mahomes and my body of work is solidified.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
It's my job.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's my job. And by the way, it is what
they call what's that, what's it called?

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh yeah, a full contact sport.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
It's a full contact sport, which, by the way, the
rules have been altered so much at this point that
quarterbacks barely have much to worry about to concern themselves with,
and yet instill you're nervous about the idea that he
could get injured playing limited reps. I just like, to me,

(29:50):
it sets a precedence that is unbelievable. It's unbelievable to me.
Like it's soft. It's just soft. It's a soft approach.
It's a scared approach. It's a cautious approach. It's a
safe approach. And if that's what you're going to do
in football, you know, I don't know, man, Like we

(30:14):
used to it used to be a sport that you
actually compared to the military, Like we're going to war
out here, you know where I'm a soldier Da da dad, this,
that and the other. Like, man, I don't know about
all that anymore. Man, It's just this kind it's just different. Man,
It's just the whole idea of it is just very
different now.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's just different. So I don't know. I'm not mad
about it.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
I'm just saying, it's weird to me to think that
your job is to play ball. So why aren't you playing?
Like nobody's saying you got to play four quarters? But
you're telling me we're not going to use Caleb Williams,
who is a rookie. We're not going to use him
at all because there's no reason the risk getting him hurt.

(30:55):
It's weird to me.

Speaker 11 (30:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
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Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's the old p petros Co, host of the Petros
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five seventy l a sports Fox college football analyst Pee.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
What's happening?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Good morning to you, morning, Good morning everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Hello, Hi, Yeah, just we're still reeling out here in
southern California.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You from the imaging, Well, no, let.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Mean see up in here complaining.

Speaker 11 (31:30):
Well, I mean it is hosted by three people, and
to leave one of the hosts out of the intro
seems like a bit of an oversight, disrespectful.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Yeah, it's me.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Well, it just needed to happen, just you know, in my.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
Opinion, petros I did.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I was wondering because for people listening nationally, they're not
familiar with one of the most dynamic duos in all
of sports radio, the Panic Brothers, and so I was
just wondering based on what you saw in San Diego
with the Dodgers following the trade deadline and that meltdown
yet again. Will the Panic Brothers be making an appearance

(32:08):
sometime soon.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
No, because when it comes to the Dodgers, it's like
the Panic Brothers are just like the Brothers now because
every year is so similar and they do such a
great job. I mean, the Dodgers are run by a
big corporation in Chicago. They make more money than anybody

(32:30):
in baseball. I think, in fact that they're the most
visited sport on Earth is the La Dodgers, because of
the size of the stadium and the volume of the
games and the popularity of the team, particularly here in
Southern California with the Latino community. They really know how
to win the regular season every single year. And the

(32:53):
president of the team is Stan Casten, who was the
guy in charge of the Atlanta Braves and the nineties
when they won the New Vision every year and only
won that one World Series and made a fan of
everybody in the South because it was before any of
the Florida teams and they were on TBS and blah
blah blah. The Dodgers are kind of like that. They

(33:14):
do great in the regular season, they don't seem to
have a bunch of edge when the postseason comes. Yeah,
you win a big game, you lose a big game,
but they're always winning in the division. They made a
move yesterday to bring in Jack Flaherty, but the Padres
made some moves too to bolster their bullpen, and maybe
it'll be an interesting second half. But the Panic Brothers,

(33:37):
they're at a panic, you know. I mean, it's like
living in London during the bombing raids. You know, after
like two or three years, you know, you just kind
of get used to it again, you know. But I
guess it's hard to watch the team dominate year in
and year out, only to lose in like the NLDS,

(33:57):
to like the Gnats or the diamond Backs or the
Padres themselves. It's become quite a pattern. But now they
have shoe a O Taani, who's one of the great
players of all time and fun to watch and plays
his ass off, and he got pissed last night when
he struck out. It's good to see him showing emotion.
I don't know, I just I can't muster the panic.

(34:18):
It's hard for me to muster the emotion about anything.
Especially at five in the morning.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Dang hmm, Hey, Pete.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
That was an answer. I mean, was that there all right?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
I mean hef a Dodger's question.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's okay, I understand.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
I don't know, man. I think he's just kind of
reeling from the imaging.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
He tries to lead off with whatever he saw that
I tweeted about.

Speaker 11 (34:43):
No prep Okay, I really they look at Twitter, on X,
at the old p or at Petros and money, and
I run both those accounts poorly, and he wanted to
see No.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I honestly have not seen anything you've tweeted, and I
swear something on I was going to lead off with, like,
you know, Matt Stafford is his new contract, but I
figured I would give you time to warm up to
lay into Kelly Stafford if you wanted to again.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
But I didn't think that that would be the appropriate way.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
Why would I land at Kelly Stafford. I'm not an
insecure man. It was not cool with my wife talking
about all the guys she hooked up with in college.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's insecure. That's an insecure man.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I just wanted to like groove something for you first,
you know, something soft over the plate for you pee
you know, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I need to help.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Why be soft over the plate? Anyway? What have you
been watching the Olympics? What's your take on this whole
Jason Tatum not playing thing like you know, well, I
think how much of it?

Speaker 11 (35:45):
No, I mean, it's an Olympic team. I never know
as far as me as a person and the radio
show and what I'll be interested in. I never know
the Olympics are going to take for us, right Like
every year that they come, especially in the winter, you

(36:10):
just don't really know how it's going to work for
the show. Sometimes, Like I remember Beijing, my partner and
I were all in a lot of it has to
do with timing, and nobody watched the COVID one that
was a year late in Tokyo. We were into Brazil,
you know, I think we were into London, and so

(36:31):
you kind of remember the stories over the years, and
you remember talking about this or talking about that, and really,
I mean, at this point we've become so immature as
a show and a society that all we really care
about is just like seeing the outline of people's dogs
and stuff like that, you know, speed walkers, divers, you know,

(36:53):
it's just like a boner parade, especially in Paris, you know,
which is like, you know, a place that just gives
you cold. Soil was walking around, you know, you saw
the opening ceremony, got like it looked like that justify
my love video with.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Mydon By the way, what do you think that that
was that guy's belt berries or was it like some
soil that was that.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Guy put That guy brought his sack out.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Okay, so because Lebar was trying to say that, it
was like.

Speaker 11 (37:20):
Uh, I got to play that song that was return
of the Sack. Oh my god, Return of the Sack.
Do you really think it was Yeah, that was a sack.
I mean, look, it's France, you know. I mean, you're
lucky that he didn't put his sack in your in
your pasta. I mean that, you know, like I I was,

(37:42):
you know, I don't know if I don't know if
i was offended or shocked or whatever, but I've been
to France and I'm just like, yeah, these are this
is France. It's it's gross. But as far as the
games go, I love watching the athletes. I love I
love seeing the memes of just a fat guy with
like chips on his shirt. And it says like, you

(38:05):
know me, whenever any Olympic athlete makes a mistake, and
it's a fat guy laying on the couch saying pathetic.
You know, that's kind of fun about it. Like watching
team handball, You're like, geez, you know, where do these
people get into this? How do you say, like, you know,
I didn't really work out on lacrosse.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Let me try this team handball, you know.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
Or the Filipino diver that fell on his neck was
the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
The French diver with the bone around. What else do
we have?

Speaker 11 (38:36):
Tatum didn't play so all the Twitter stuff about him
high fiving people on the sideline, that happened.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
What about the American triathlon guy, I forget his name,
Seth whoever it is, We talked about it earlier. He
says that to get to build up his immunity or
threshold for E. Coli out there, he stopped washing his
hands after he takes a crap.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I think that that.

Speaker 11 (39:03):
You know, there's there's part of that too, Like I
don't know, I lived here in eighty four, right, and
I remember those Olympics and I remember what was celebrated,
and it wasn't a guy with his balls out, you know,
it wasn't peeing in the pool, which was like a
long form piece in the Wall Street Journal this weekend,
like all the swimmers pee in the pool, Like I

(39:24):
don't remember Matt Byondy and Janet Evans and the Albatross
being like, yeah, we pee in the.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Pool all the time.

Speaker 11 (39:30):
That's the story, not that we're exit l athletes and
the one that now the e Coli hand washing triathlete.
I mean, why are we so gross? We didn't used
to be this gross, you know, And I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Just as that we talk about it, Pete, Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Like eighty four, you know, like you know, it was
it was like taboo to say anything that exactly it was.

Speaker 11 (39:53):
Samy Eagle, not a bearded dude with boobs, you know, flying.
I mean, it's all great, but it just feels like
it was a little bit different, maybe a little more wholesome,
when we were younger.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
It's more acceptable to be outrageous.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Well, why does it have to be the story?

Speaker 11 (40:09):
How about like, hey, it's hard to swim real far
instead of like hey, poop hands, yeah, you know, or
hey let's we all pee in the pool and we've
been keeping it secret for twenty years, Like why why?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
But I guess that's just the way of the world.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I mean, I like the fact that badminton's getting a
little bit of love, you know, Like I like the
fact that, you know, handball's getting some love.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (40:30):
Then everybody becomes such a star effort, you know, like
at the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
It's like it's supposed to be about I mean.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
We got the whole year to deal with Lebron and
that the Olympics have to be about Lebron?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Like why do I have to get nailed by the
king for the Olympics?

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Right?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (40:46):
Like I have a lot of complaints, but also a
lot of things that are interesting to me and all that.
My radio partner screaming singing through the pain at Celine
Dion during the opener was pretty good. Although we couldn't
even though the iHeart Radio is like the iHeart Radio

(41:06):
is the rights holder or something on the radio for
the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, we couldn't.

Speaker 11 (41:11):
We couldn't convince our producer to to pot up the
opening ceremony so we could comment live like Mystery Science
Teater Seat Theater three thousand. But so we did it.
We did it, broad Dog or.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Just drop was why was why was Tim Kats being
so difficult?

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I don't know the scared like a bitch? Is it?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I thought it was it Snark Week? When is snark Week?
By the way, what is that coming up?

Speaker 11 (41:37):
Snark Week is like Laker media Day.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Usually it's in the fall if nothing else is going on.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
But we got football coming up and all all of
that stuff as well. But yes, I have been watching
the Olympics on USA, and oh I learned about the
how they bring all the horses to the equestrian events
from around the world. I guess there's a plane that
you have to try to get your horse too, and
it's like a it and the plane is literally called

(42:06):
air horse one, which is pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Is treous, and and the shot.

Speaker 11 (42:13):
Of the horses all in the h in the plane,
you know, they're like all stalled out in the plane,
and then just you think about how bad it smells.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Oh god, here here, but like human beings crack a window,
like human beings melt down on planes.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
What are they horses are gonna do?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
They can't get them into the into the stables without
biting a jockey at.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Air Horse one.

Speaker 11 (42:36):
Things are not race horses, yeah, but I mean equestrian horses.

Speaker 7 (42:40):
Like what it is? Are they horses?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
No?

Speaker 11 (42:43):
Literally they line up like thirty horses on air horses,
the ones.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
The ones le Bar was thinking about. They fly over
on uh, I believe, like Jet Blue or what's what's.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
The other Spirit Spirit airlines?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know they're usually that that early morning flight at
a burbank I think Vegas.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, the stripper buss.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
Oh yeah, it's a good flight.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Wor I got it, got you.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
I didn't say what you said.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
I said horrors, Petros.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Are you disappointed to know that Caleb Williams will not be.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Playing in the Hall of Fame game?

Speaker 5 (43:18):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I want to hear, because apparently no starters playing the
Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
I guess there's a big difference.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
You ain't never played before.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
I agree.

Speaker 11 (43:29):
It's like JJ Reddick in the Summer League. It's like
you're sure you don't want to coach, dude, you don't
want to get your feet wet here.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (43:36):
Feels a little weird, but yeah, he's not playing. None
of the starters are playing.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I mean I don't know about.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
I mean, as far as USC quarterbacks go over the years,
especially Heisman winners and stuff, Caleb Williams has to be
the one I know the least and know the least about.
I never interviewed him, I've never met him. I called
one of his games, I think in his career sc
maybe no, not at Oklahoma, just se and so I

(44:04):
don't know him well. But reading the tea leaves and
just noticing everything that's happened around his career, and then
the stuff that's leaked out about what his representatives want
or wanted or have.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Asked for throughout the draft process.

Speaker 11 (44:22):
And the signing process, and all those things that come
along with being the number one pick or a high
pick or any kind of pick. Maybe doesn't surprise me.
I don't know. If it comes from the Fluce Goose,
the ever Fluse, then that's the head coach's decision and whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
That's who it came from, yes.

Speaker 11 (44:42):
But if it comes from but if the inner workings
are Caleb's people telling the Bears that he's not playing
in the game because none of the starters play, then
that is a different story. And I wouldn't be super
surprised about that, are you know, hearing about the other
stuff that they've been made. They demanded, I mean, some
kind of contracting that no one ever is able to do,

(45:04):
deferring money or having an LLC paid, or something weird
like that that no one's ever asked for.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
I think it's brilliant though, but it got denied, right.
And then there was the other one about he.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Wanted It was sub equity, that he wanted equity in
the yes.

Speaker 11 (45:20):
Equity in the team, and something like that doesn't happen.
I mean just reading the tea leaves and then noticing,
you know, the crying between the mom's breasts after the
Utah game, not talking to the media, blowing off the
media on more than one occasion as the Heisman Trophy candidate,
returning Heisman Trophy winner, and all of those things at

(45:41):
se and then blowing off the media after losses. A
lot of that stuff. I mean, one of those stories
doesn't mean much, but you put all those stories together
and you say he's not playing in the first game,
and then maybe it's kind of like the CNC music Factory,
our Sineo Hall built things that make you go hm, So,
I mean, maybe there's something there. I didn't know. I mean,

(46:03):
I I you just hit me with that story.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
I didn't.

Speaker 11 (46:06):
I didn't hear about Caleb Williams in the Hall of
Fame game. I'm not really much of a Hall of
Fame game type.

Speaker 7 (46:13):
Oh that's a bummer. Even Aaron Rodgers, I don't know
if he's going to play in the preseason either. He
might not play well.

Speaker 11 (46:20):
Listen to me, all he do in his mother f
and his teammates running around town anyway, trying to act
hard because somebody got a better contract than him at
Green Bay. On the show yesterday, you said I saw
that that he had a spicy attitude.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Spicy.

Speaker 11 (46:36):
I saw that on the Fox Sports Radio Twitter, and
I saw it was so petrick.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
If you buy into that, you think that it has
something to do with the fact that.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
J I have no clue.

Speaker 11 (46:48):
None of this stuff surprises me, though, when it comes
to the meglomania of a great athlete.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
I did notice.

Speaker 11 (46:54):
The most impactful story over the summer I noticed about
Aaron Rodgers was some grown man on the golf course.
And I hope he's not special needs or something, but
some grown man on the golf course was like crying,
real tears.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Like I just want to Super bowloon.

Speaker 11 (47:12):
Like in front of people, and Aaron Rodgers was like
walking to the next hole, and I was like, my god,
what terrible. If I was Aaron Rodgers, I just quit
football in there, I'd just be like, you know what,
going back to the iowaka, I'm going back to.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
The pooping in the dark.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
So if somebody give me that camel in Egypt again
and a bong, I'm getting the hell out of here.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Everybody your own show.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That is true. Yeah, I should leave too. I should
go to Egypt. I can't get any respect on this show.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
What a weak hit?

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Yeah, that was a week hit. You're you're a.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Ripper whose old baby lungs over there?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
A true ripper.

Speaker 7 (47:56):
Dang Petros, we appreciate.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
It, want to draw any attention to it. But you
said that was a week as it?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Oh man, it's a freshman year dorm. What is that there?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You could get him on Twitter at the old p
r X whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
He would you do the hit for me and I'll
just suck it through the tube.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Wait, Damn Petros, we appreciate it. We'll do it again
next week. I think next week you're out.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
Oh that's right. Yeah, I'm gonna be on.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday for an hour.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I'm sure you'll be in the intro. I can't get
here in the intro, but you can. I'm sure that'll
be better.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Yeah, clearly know where the money is going though, you know,
Jonah saying never took this much time off, So.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Man, I got to think that put that out there.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
I got things I'm working on, all.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Right, is Matthew Judahan moment right here?

Speaker 7 (48:52):
You know, I got things I'm working on. Your legs, Jonah,
your business?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Good for you, daddy, long legs?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, all right, hep all right, Old p there is
the great Patros Papadakis with us here on.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Fox Sports all next week.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Huh.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
I don't know. You don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
You know what. Your name ain't in the anyway.

Speaker 7 (49:10):
So I'll let you guys think about it.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Yeah, go take your pe d break.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
I let you guess what y'all do.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
You know, by the way, that's what people do. I'm
going on.

Speaker 7 (49:19):
Yeah, you people, we don't need steroids. That's for y'all.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
That's for y'all.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you.
Always a fun listen with Petros here and by the way,
yes you can get him on Twitter or x whatever
you want to call it. At the old Peak,
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