August 16, 2023 • 48 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Anthony Richardson shouldn’t be shocked about being named the starter, but will Gardner Minshew ever get another shot? Brady reveals an embarrassing mishap on his daughters’ first day of school. The Michael Oher story takes a turn and The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks balloon arches, bearded dragon gender identity and conference realignment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington, rading Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday morning? Fine, yeah, yeah,
hump day. Yeah, come on, now, we do have a
brand new We do have a brand new era of
football for the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's not only jim Irsay talking about death and Jonathan
Taylor not being in the league, but they have made
a big announcement at quarterback. Anthony Richardson, the number four
pick in this year's draft, the stud with the raw
talent out of Florida. After one preseason game, the Indianapolis
Colts have named him the starting quarterback for the season opener,
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and Richardson shared his reaction to the news yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Honestly, I would you know, I've been grondre and quitting
network just to you know, get the title. But you
know it's not really all about a title, you know,
I'm just trying to make sure I'm ready for the team.
You know, despite you know, being labeled as QB one.
You know, I still got other guys in the room
helping me, you know, get to that standard. So I'm
forever thankful for them. You know, I appreciate them, and
I'm glad. You know, I did get the nod, and
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you know, I do have the trust in and everybody
in the building to think that I am QB one.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How the hell is he shocked?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean I was shocked too. He would have thought
after Thember four overall, we thought that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I thought they were going to slow play this for
a few years.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, I thought maybe, you know, like Jordan love style,
you know, yeah, let Minshew be in there for about
three years and then, uh, then we'll give.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Him a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right those days are over right.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean and on top of it, like you
saw in just the short stint of the preseason so far,
why they took him where they took him. You know,
he's got so much ability. I just hope Colts fans
are patient with him. I mean, he's started one game
of college football and there's gonna be some some growing
that being said that, they could do some things to simplify,
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you know, stuff for him. Shane Stegen does a good
job playing to his strengths, but I mean he's he
could be special now. I mean if he could put
it all together consistently, he could be one of the
best quarterbacks in the league. He's got that sort of
talent and ability. It's just about, you know, can he
how can he get to that point? Because because he
is very inexperienced, right, I mean that's something that it's
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hard to overcome that, especially when you start playing the NFL,
you start from day one.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy for a young man,
but look, you obviously have to prove and show that
that that's something that they need to take a chance on.
I mean, sure, you take them, you know, as high
as you did. But if he's not ready, you would
assume that they're not just going to throw him in.
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I mean you would assume. I mean, maybe they're in
a situation where they have to play them no matter what.
In Indianapolis, but you know, it had a little little
turnover turnover deal. But he does look like he has
the poise. He does have the understanding of what it
takes to be the starter, and you know, you don't
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always see that out of out of a young guy.
I like his demeanor. I mean, I think you know
we heard the little SoundBite. I mean I saw the
interviews on him after the game on on on the television,
and I just I like, I like the demeanor of
this new group of quarterbacks all together. They're just like
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seems to be like this collective kind of of deal
across the board where these young quarterbacks just have a
way about themselves. And I'm not just talking about these
guys that just got drafted or Richardson in particular. I'm
just talking about just this whole new group all together,
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you know, from from the you know quarterback and Jacksonville
the quarterback in in Carolina. So you're talking about Trevor Lawrence,
You're talking about Bryce Young, We we talked about how
Jalen Hurts is wise beyond his years. Just this youth
movement of quarterbacks out there, it really does seem like
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it gives you the feeling to be excited about where
where the league could possibly end up with the type
of talent that these guys are, but also the type
of men you know that they are. So I'm happy
for Richardson. I think that it's it's a I think
it's a it's a solid move by them. There are
manly men, you know, men, is there that might sound
(04:41):
weird these days, you know, like you might think that
that's that's just like we're joking. But men, men, men,
I mean something about it, Matt.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But you make a good point, though, LeVar, because is
there any quarterback in the NFL that you say, oh,
that guys a D bag?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Not right now?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, so you're saying they've removed the d bags.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
From the like they're not there anymore. I just like, yeah,
I can't really think of any quarterback in the NFL
that I go all. That guy's kind of a tool,
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The kid in New York gave you a tool. But
you know, I don't know. I don't know if it's
on purpose or or if it was by accident or
by influence. I don't know. But he did give you
a little bit of you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Kind of that who Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, it's like not my fault, you know, it's like,
you know it it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Is regrettable moment.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I'll deal with my mom's friends if I want to.
And you know, I just I'm just saying, yeah, maybe
that could be one that is interpreted as one. But
I mean, for the most part, when you go across
the board of this youth movement. I mean from Herbert
to Joey Cool and Cincinnati. You know, it's just to me.
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I mean, even if you move into the next tier
of guys that are still considered to be fairly young
in the league, Like for as much as he's done,
he's still fairly young. And and Patrick Mahomes like, these
guys aren't old old players. So a lot of these
these these quarterbacks that are starting are fairly young, and
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they all seem to be pretty solid dudes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, Mahomes on twenty seven years old. Yeah, it was
funny because remember a few years ago, there was some
concern like, man, there's a lot of great quarterbacks retiring.
Ben Roethlisberg or Eli Manning, Philip Like, there was like,
and what's the NFL going to do? Are we gonna
get another great crop of quarterbacks? And it's like every
year you've got the next big thing that gets drafted.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
We always say that though, I mean, it's like we
always have concern when some of the grades start to retire.
The we're like, oh and another one pops up, another
guy pops up. I mean I was talking about this
with a buddy. I have zero concern about the future
for quarterback play because at a at a lower level,
the quarterback training, the private training has gotten so much
better and coaches, players, dads, I mean, they're all so
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much more knowledgeable about like the proper throwing motion. I
remember like being in my probably like I think seventh
after my seventh year, going to my eighth year, and
I had a back injury, and so I'd got out
to California with Tom Alise, Adam Dato and those guys
to rehab, and how they were teaching the throwing motion
was so different than anything I'd been taught before. And
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I'm like almost thirty years old, and I'm sitting there.
I'm like, well, I'm not gonna be able to change
everything right now, like like you're too far along. You've
got millions of reps at that point. And I'm like, damn,
I wish I would have learned this when I was young,
Like like I wish I knew and had all this
when I was young. And I'm watching all these young kids,
I'm like, they're gonna be taught the proper way and
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the right way, and it's more of like a rotational
throw instead of like more of like an over the
top and that changed from you know, when I was
young being taught and how you can aarry the football,
how you you know, how your release works out. All
that changed and so these kids coming in now, they
are so much more prepared with their mechanics, the more
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prepared with the drills, the way the you know, maidenance
there arm everything. I mean even mentally, with the access
you have to watch film. I mean, you could go
watch NFL games as a kid, get your parents because
you get you a subscription, go watch the game tape.
You could do that. Back then you had to watch
the games yourself and hope you could go watch what
was it Ron Jorski, who'd go back and you have
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the tape to go back?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh yeah, JENNFL matchup.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I couldna stay up late to watch that because they
buried that bad point later.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, that was one of their best shows. Why they
bury it?
Speaker 5 (08:41):
It was like an eleven or one am I don't
I don't know why that buries it so great?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it was good stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah. They say the same thing about current MMA fighters
that back in the day, you would be a wrestler
who learned MMA, or you'd be a striker who is
learning MMA and nowadays you're just an MMA fight like
you learn all of that stuff from the get go
to where you're more well rounded. And so when you
see fighters now and compared to fighters you know fifteen
(09:09):
twenty years ago, it's night and day. Just with the
development of how these guys are trained and how they
start their careers when it comes to fighting. Now one
of the guys, I mean, this is a great story
for Anthony Richardson. We're happy for him, but then it
does bring up the point Gardner Minshew one of the
great characters, a guy who's had success when he's gotten
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an opportunity, the Wazu Alum, the product of Mike Leach.
He's now the backup quarterback again. And so Gardner Minshew
spoke about the news of Anthony Richardson being named starting
quarterback and pretty much understands why the move was made.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Super excited for Anthony and the opportunity that he has.
You know, this is his franchise, you know, that's the
reason they picked him where he is and man, he's
gonna be really special.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
So I'm excited to.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Work, continue to get better and figure out how to
win some games.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right there.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Anytime you put so much endo something, you know, it
can be disappointing when you don't, you know, hear what
you want to hear. But I totally understand, and I'm
all all them with what we got going. Really, I
can't extress. And I really excited for Anthony Man. I
think he's going to be really special.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think he's got a.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Great opportunity here and just we're gonna just try to
figure out how to win some games.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Is mince you ever going to get a shot?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean probably not the way he hopes or wishes.
You know, it comes from injury, it comes from something
not working out, and then you got to kind of
go take over a bad situation. I mean that's the
reality when you get to his spot in the NFL
where he had some time to play games. I thought
he played well in a really bad situation in Jacksonville
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and yet didn't get much much of a shot. He's
had a good camp from all accounts. I mean, he's
done a good job. This is more of a matter
of it was a business decision. They go with a
younger player who they feel like has more upside and
it can be really really special. So he's got the
right attitude. He's a I'm telling you he's one of
the funniest dudes in the NFL. He really is. He's
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got he's got a personality to him.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Is he still living in the bus thing for a while.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I don't think so anymore. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Solid dude, man. That's a that's a solid response to
an adverse situation that didn't pan out exactly the way
that you'd like for it to pan out. But I
think Gardner Minshew is in a really, really advantageous position.
And the reason being is you name, you name, your
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your high draft pick as the starter, and and it
looks as though he should be good enough to hold
the position even through some rough play. But with that
being said, we've seen how things can happen in in Indianapolis.
And keep in mind, you have an owner that says
if he dies, no one will care or makes something
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that the show will continue on. And I don't need
to pay our start running back because well no one cares,
then the game will not miss you. It'll continue on.
So that means that anyone can get it in Indianapolis
if things aren't going the way that they're supposed to
be going because well, quite frankly, no one cares.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Do you think Ers and Minshew will have a cocktail
at some point together this year?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I hope why not have to help for all involved?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I hope you have to forty four touchdowns fifteen picks
for his career.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I mean, would you, I mean once you have a
cocktail with him?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah? I just I want to know how did the
flake a go?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You do more?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I want to know, hey, hey, what does Dan Snyder
have on you now that he's gone? I'd want to
there's a lot of stuff that Jim Mersey knows.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Why would he have something now that he's gone?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, like, hey, Dan Snyder must have had something on you,
what were you most concerned about that was would be released?
If Dan Snyder, I don't know, jimmers.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Into an open book man. He does seem to be
an open book.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'd ask him about the trash bag full of pills
and cash in the backseat. I'd ask about that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
There's a lot of you know, why he has a
trash bag full of cash and pills?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Why does he have it?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean, you don't know that equation? You need me
to spell that one out.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's a lot of cash with a lot of pills.
Why is it in a trash bag? Wouldn't you have
like a Louis Vuitton like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A party night to me? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean so it sounds like it is a
legitimate question. When you're you know, as rich as Jimmers said,
you figured you'd.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Have a better bag full of pills and.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Cash or even like just like a paper bag, like
something that was just more recyclable, better for the environment.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
One thing you you you tend to learn about the
super ridiculously stinking wealthy rich dudes, is they wealthy because
they cheap? That's they're not cheap, but they're not cheap
about things that they don't want to be cheap about.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
You know. So just the recreational drug use, I.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Mean, you know, for for for that's for him, that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Is that probably something you don't want to cut corners on, you.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Would think, but you know, they have altered reality.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's like, hey, are these somas? Well it starts with
an ass that's fine, okay, and just throw it in
there and we'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah that's a hefty like yeah, yeah, you know, I
could always get another one. Real quick right out.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
The lad's always got the better smelling ones.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, if you don't glad, But you know I could,
you know, I could dispose of this one pool, another
one out.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
You know, let's keep it moving to that double baggage.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That is one of the great advancements in household technology,
the fact that they add a scent to the trash bags.
Now it is complete to change the game.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, although it has not deterred the raccoons to
get in my trash. I don't know, you guys were
doing well.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We technically have bigger raccoons going through that trash around here.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But I was going to ask you this the other day,
but we're all about the clock, so I didn't want
to be laid on the segment. Did the raccoon have
they crapped in your pool recently? Braidy because I was no.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
But they were like eating very well out of our trash.
Can I mean, I can't get over how intelligent these
things are. They If I'm on one, they use as
leverage to open it up. They get down inside it,
but they like figure out how to prop it up.
I mean, these things could be a domesticated household pet
at this point. They're so smart. I'm thinking about next
time we buy pizza, I'm gonna buy like a small
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personal pizzas. Leave it out, to leave it out, I
guarantee you they'll show up. They'll crush it, leave a
thank you note. Yeah, I mean, we're not that far
off from having raccoons that become a pet at some
point based on how these things are eating.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, it's gonna be selfies, you know, and selfie videos,
TikTok videos of trash, trash can.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, bs man, these whatever whatever pause and and
you know digits they've got, they utilize those things.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, they do, they really do. We got beer coons
out here, you know. You know they go through the
trash a little differently than propping themselves up. You just
hear boom, you know, and it's like they move stuff
like a little. Do they make any noise? Like do
they yeah? Oh yeah, make a noise you know when
they're out there. They don't.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
And they come every every day and saying knocking stuff
around and saying.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
They're like, oh, like like what you can hear them breathing.
You can hear them breathing.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
What does that sound like? I can't really can can't
really simulate it, but you can.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Hear them breathing.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Shot.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
No, Jonas, can you do it? No, that's not how
it sounds. That's how that sounds.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
It's a real it's a real heavy. It's it's heavy.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Not so snoring?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Sleeping?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, not snoring. So did you snore?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Johns?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I thought you asked me to do a Jim Mersey.
Sorry about that. I was I was trying.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To ye cleaning trees.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
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Speaker 2 (16:54):
So I just wanted to point this out because we
actually did get some positive feedback here on the show,
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message he loves the show. Could not have been nicer
and could not have been kinder. So when we tell
you that we're on hundreds of affiliates all across the country,
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we mean it. And the fact that Brad starts his
mornings every day with us here and lets us be
a part of his mornings and his commute to work
or whatever he's got going on. Just wanted to give
a little shout out.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
To Brad Gaatey.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So pretty cool that we have that kind of a
reach here on this show. So some positive right here. Also,
can I.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Try to help me to finish the story OFFWTIL the
last time.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's your embarrassing story. That's your business. I don't still
want to.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Create a bad first impression. I feel like yesterday did
not go well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I mean, LeVar, you can you can speak to this
because you've transitioned like schools that you're coaching at right, Okay, No,
I'm just saying like you don't want to make a
bad first impression. I just and like blippy, I had
my fly down because I'd used the rest for my
orientation and it was happened to be not noticed by
anyone within my family. It had to be someone who
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eventually noticed that was which I was like, whoops, that
is not good for your daughter's orientation when their first
time changing to a new school.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, how could your wife have not noticed it?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I mean, we've got three kids were wrangling around and
and they're all like, you know, so excited. It's just
it's the last thing on any of our minds, clearly
the last thing on my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And so the teacher noticed that your fly was down.
So I would ask the same question that you guys
asked us. Why was she looking there?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Well, you know what, I don't even want to go there.
I don't even want to go there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, we all know why in that scenario.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's obvious?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
This is why I don want to talk about this.
This is what you two do.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Come on, No, I'm just saying it's it's obvious. I
don't need to say it. Everybody who heard the story
was thinking the same exact thing. Men would like to
be like him, women want to be with him. I mean,
it's you know, he says one of those things like
a like a commercial. You know, all we needed was
like a fragrant, a fragrance or like a T shirt
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or an underwear line or something like that, and then bam,
there it is. That's branding, instant branding right there. We
want to move it, move some product, move some units,
you know, improve our.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Product, like uh, Michael or shakedown or something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No, I mean I do think LeVar is onto something though.
This is a marketing opportunities thank you. I feel like
Calvin I was.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I was hoping LeVar would chime in and be like, yeah, man,
I had this one awkward experience souse coaching at a different.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
School and you know, yeah, I mean we're.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Going to keep this one on you, my guy. Yeah,
We're going to keep this one right where it is.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What did I do to deserve this, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean you, I mean yeah, you know, blame it
on your parents, man, you know, blame it on Chopper.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You put his best foot forward. Man, I mean, it
just is what it is, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
A little hot for teacher. I mean like it makes sense,
you know if you think about it.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, mister Quinn, No, no.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
We're not doing this. Here's the problem is like it's
not like there was a ton of conversation beforehand. So
that's that's like that's like the icebreaker. It's like, okay,
I mean I don't think I'll be honest with you.
The more I think about it. If you're single out
there right and you're at a bar, that might be
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the moon like I zip your pants, Yeah, you might
as well. And then and then you hope that someone
like someone you like, notices it and they bring it up,
because that's pretty problem.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know. Maybe that's when you're looking dude like you
could you could get away with doing stuff like that
when you look like me and you have your zipper
down there, like sir, Uh, we're gonna have to ask
you to leave. You're you're inappropriate right now? Is this
we're you know, we're just uncomfortable or or the other
one would be, uh, a pad on your shoulder. It
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would be like the you know, squad car they called
they called the cops. It's a creeper in here.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I mean, listen, it happens to the best of us.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
H it works out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's all right. Now, was it uncomfortable after that
encounter with the teacher noticing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
That I was not?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And how many times did you see her after?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That was it at least for that time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Mean how about during the course of the year, And
did she look at you the same exact way or
did she have a different look in her eyes? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
I don't know. I really I regret getting into this.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Hey, batter up. You know it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Were there any more teachers with her? Every time she
knew about your parent teacher conference?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
All right, we were in, we were out, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Like, why why? Literally why are there two other teachers
from two other topics subject in this in this meeting?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There's a lot of teachers here. What's going on? How
come everybody's fixing their hair and putting makeup on? I
don't get it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Oh, you don't look like a teacher right now, look
like you're going to the club.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Did anybody hand you a back brace and just say
you look like you need to use this. I'm just
trying to get to the.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Bottom of this figure.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The more I'd be quiet, The more I'm quiet, the
better chance we have a segue into our actual topic
for this. This is this is the actual topic, man.
This is By the way.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You did bring up the Michael Wore shakedown, which I
think is an appropriate segue from what we just talked about.
So from one shakedown to another down, So I.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Feel exposed. You were, Yeah, so are the twoies I
guess I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, definitely, so were they. By the way, the more
that comes out on this, the more it stinks, and
the more it feels like maybe Michael Orr he's reaching,
didn't really understand.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Well, what can you just lay out the facts so
people kind of hear.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So the Twoey's lawyer released a statement yesterday and basically
said that Michael Or has tried this before and that
other lawyers have backed out seeing the evidence that he
doesn't really have a case that he knew what he signed,
he knew what was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
They also a book about it in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, and so I guess it's like, Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Once you write a book and you admit that, then
you kind of like throw it, throws any evidence out
the window, or at least his claim out the window,
And it just so happens he's got another book that's dropping,
and so it seems like it's more of a ploy
to get attention and sell this book and then try
to get a movie deal out of it. That's at
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least what it seems on the outside.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I guess he has tried this before. He hit
him up and said, if you know, if you don't
give me fifteen million dollars, I'll release a negative story
about you or something along those lines.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
They also said, hasn't that extortion essentially? Yeah, And the
tough part is is the family that you know adopted
him or had the conservatorship, they've already made all their money. Yeah,
they sold their business for like two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Is a rest like a fast food restaurant chain or
something like that for twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So it's like, if anyone's being exploited here, it's them.
Like they took this young man in and tried to
provide him a home and care and all that compared
to the life he was living. And this isn't like
my opinion of it, this is like from his book
and yeah, then he turns around and does this, and
then you come to find out he's got a new
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book drive. Then you come to find out he's trying
to maybe cash in on what could be a second
movie where he's saying, no, this is my story. It's like, well,
hold on a second, Like, I don't understand even if
you want to have a second movie, a sequel, whatever,
why do you have to throw the family that helped
you out in the first place under the bus for
all this? Well, oh, it's just because they've they've already
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made a ton of money before he even was in
their life at that point. I mean even talks about
you know, they tried to advise them to go with
a certain agent, and apparently he didn't take their advice,
had a different agent, ended up having to fire the
agent and going back to the guy they originally recommended.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, and there was also one of the points that
was made by the lawyer in his statement was that
I guess they agreed to equal shares everybody when it
came to this movie and the royalties that came from
the movie. And even in the midst of all this,
they still deposited his equal share into a trust fund
that they set up. They're not making those claims unless
they've got proof that that deposit was made correct, Like
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I just right right, I find it hard to believe.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
And just so people understand why they'd put in a
trust because they wanted to limit him from having the
ability to access it all of it at once and
probably blow all the money, which is what a lot
of people believe is why he's doing this in the
first place, is because he made what close to thirty
five million. Yeah, and maybe he hasn't saved it or
invested it wisely, and so it's literally for that reason,
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Like that would be one of the things I wish
that you could do with some of the student athletes
who are getting a nil money is put it into
a fund, into a trust where they can't touch it
until they're done with college and they at least they
get into the NFL. But you know, again, you should
see some of the stuff these kids spend money on. Yeah,
And it's like you see it when I was playing
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on a small, small scale because you didn't have any money.
But when you had a few hundred bucks or something,
or you get like your Bowl your Bowl game money
where they give you like a thousand bucks or two
thousand bucks to travel, you see what guys go spend
it on. And you're like, all right, like imagine if
that was two hundred thousand, what they'd do with that money.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, but a thousand bucks at twenty years old, when
you're broke.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Oh my gosh, rich, you're rich.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You could do a lot with that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I remember scraping change together to get like a slice
of pizza side when I was living in zomb Hall.
It's not even a dorm anymore at Notre Dame and
I was like you kind of just felt like you're alive,
you know, like this is it, man, I'm grinding like
just there was something to like the struggle of like
you know, trying to figure it out how you're gonna
make it work without like many resources.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
At times that was fun.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What was the most broke you guys ever were? Do
you remember a moment.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
My two door for Explorer Sport and I was like,
this is when I was like doing Mike well at
Notre Dame, right, that thing you I had always park
so I could put in drive. Because it couldn't go
in reverse, my driver's side door would not open. I
had to get in from the passenger side. It was
one of those two doors where like you know the
seats like you hit a thing and they slide up. Well,
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both the little knobs that you engaged to slide the
seat up didn't work, so people just climbed into the
back if they got in my car. I had a
after stock or after factory unit that just came with
the car when it was bought, like center console, you
know like with the CD player. Oh yeah, if you
stopped too hard, that thing would come out. Yeah, it
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would just drop right into like where the cup holders were.
And then the last thing that I still didn't figure out.
I'm sure someone listening is probably a better with a
like a gearhead or engine head could figure this out.
But I'd be driving and it would sound like the
a plane was taken off, like that car would like
it would just I was like, and I wasn't changing gears,
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just driving on the highway, like driving down to Oxford,
Ohio at the time to see my high school sweetheart.
I'd be like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna
make it like it always felt like that thing was
gonna break down. But that was that was when I
was like, man, this is this is probably not the
safest decision.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I can remember walking into a supermarket having ten dollars
and four forty four cents in my checking account and thinking,
I got to buy food for a week. Who's the
worst I'd ever eaten.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
In my life?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Man, you know what it gets me with with the
Michael Orr situation, Why wouldn't he take the reverse angle
of this? Why is he taking such a negative and
confrontational angle to what's taking taking place, Like, for one,
you became a household, name the dollars. What's he doing?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It's the opposite, Like, you don't sue them, you ask
for him.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Go to them. Yeah, you go to them, don't try
to extort them, like tell them like you know, I'm
I'm your big black son, like I love you, love me,
I love you, Like we're getting the wild you know,
let's let's get reacquainted and watch blimpies and can y'all
give me some money?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I mean for real though, like getting the will like
like this, this doesn't allow any chance of that, although
the family has been really sweet about it.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I guess the son that spoke and I've met them,
I've spent time with them at the Preakness before. Seemed
like a very lovely family. You know, they invited us
to hang out. They got a private jet. I hope
I'm not out private yet, but you know, they they invited,
you know, go shopping shopping trips while we go golf.
And I don't even golf, but I was going to
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go golf, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you're
do in that case, right, I'm saying. And I'm not
even Michael or I know.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I was like, let's go to adopt you.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I mean, I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to it,
wouldn't be opposed to it.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They seem like a lovely They seem like the type
of people.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You wake up, you you smell food on in the kitchen,
you know, coming from the kitchen, like spread like by
the time you get to a certain point in time,
you wash your hands and get yourself ready for supper,
you know, like and you smell it on the barbecue pit.
Like that's just the type of family they seem like.
They were like like they're going to be consistent type people,
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you know what I mean? Like, I just I just
the more I thought about the story, I was just like,
why not take the other the other side of it,
like you're you would never be as famous and listen
and this even he transcended the game of football based
off of a movie, Like you know how much money
he could be making if he parlayed that into like
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giving speeches and stuff like that, like the Blind It's
already framed up for you, like start like the movie
was made after you like this, this is a great
story of perseverance, Like you know how much money you
can command for that? He should have been building his
brand the entire time instead of like like you're you're
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diminishing and devaluing something that already exists and is great
by the way, like it's a great movie, it's a
dope ass movie. Like whether they got something I liked it,
whether they had some interaction your seas or whatever, the
depiction of what his story is all the way.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Then you have the opportunity to go into forums and
you can.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Clear it up while you're making a difference and making
a boatload of money doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You can do public speaking and make a grip on
just your story around the country. Yes done, Yeah, done.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But it seems like an easy way out approach to me.
But you know that's just me thinking out loud.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, all, just start gambling, all right, do the same thing.
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Speaker 2 (33:11):
Right now, we turn it over to the Old Pe.
Petros Papadeikis. He is the co host of the Petros
and Money Show on the Blowtorch AM five seven e
LA Sports. He's also a Fox College football analyst. You
get him on Twitter or x or whatever it's called
at the Old Pe. Petro's good morning. It was great
seeing you last week.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Yes, hello to everybody, Hello, good morning.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Hello, How was that last week?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
How was what?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
The remote?
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah? The remote?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Well we got another one on Friday and the Land's headquarters.
You know, Brady, they comes fast and furious. I used
to really rest on my laurels doing these Like we
used to be like, wow, two hundred people showed up,
and it's like now, you know, ten years later, it's like,
oh my god, only six hundred people showed up. What's
wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's belt so.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Is it's just a reset. You know, we got Mark
Sanchez coming out, I guess all right, yeah, to get
him to uh, we're trying to. I mean, Joe Klatt
always says like, I'll come to the last one and
then never will yeah, and then it's like, no, I'm
taking the kids to Zion, you know. Okay? Uh so
uh yeah, we got we got another one on Friday
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at the Van's headquarters from three to six. I think
we have the the seventh edition of the Petrosen Money
Van shoes are going to be given away.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I've seen those are sweet.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, and a ten thousand dollars grand prize and a
trip to Hawaii to Pipeline, a trip to Vegas, a
TV and we've got a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Man, that's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
We need your promotional people to.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Anyway, you're blaming the promotional people, I know. I mean,
I mean it took like, you know, seventeen eighteen years
to build those things, you.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Know, but yes, well good.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I think it's the.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Same promotional person that we use. But the promotional person,
if you really want to know, the promotional person that
works for Fox Sports Radio is actually employed by the Blowtorch.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh we're talking about the Dave Weiste.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Talking about Dave. Yeah, everything he does for Fox Sports
Radios out of the goodness of his heart.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yes, And he's a man of his word, always a
man of his word. Hit him up for tickets. If
you don't hear from him again, don't worry about it.
He's a man of his word.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
He's a terrible liary.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, he definitely is.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Worse than George Kleiavkov the marketing guy. What do you.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Expect now before you broke out your knife at the
live remote last Friday and started stabbing everything from balloons
to beer camp.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Well, it's annoying, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know what, what is it? A balloon art? Like
Dave Weis cares more about a balloon arch than anything
in the world. It's like, oh, the sound is screwed up, yeah,
but the balloon arch. It's like, oh, people can at park. Yeah,
but did you see this balloon arch?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Balloon arch?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, so I you know, toward the answer of the show,
I usually like to wield my knife and just start
popping balloon And I.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Do love a good balloon arch.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
By the way, though it is something to it, I
don't know it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Speaking of I can I just jump in here really
quickly and ask this question before we get into talking sports. Seriously,
I think maybe you probably won't. I heard there was
a tremendous reveal or a fine that took place, and
I hope I'm not stealing this from you, Jones.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, I wanted to get to it anyway, since is okay.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I just wanted to get some clarity on the whole
your bearded, uh, the dragted family friend and you thought
your family friend was.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I was told that it was a boy by my wife,
and then my daughter, who did further research, figured out
that my lizard is a girl.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now how was this? How was this discovered?
Speaker 6 (36:59):
I guess you got to look at the underside and
there's like two lumps if it's a boy or if
it's a boy, yeah, there's two lumps, and if it's
a girl, there's one lump. And also there's a lack
of head bobbing. She doesn't bob her head a lot,
I guess, which is what the guys do. And her
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her under under her chin has not turned black like
it does for a lot of the boys. So my
daughter did I only let my daughter watch YouTube. You know,
she's only eight so you know, we let her watch YouTube,
but only like reptile tutorials and stuff because she likes them.
So she she finally figured it out that it was
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a I was reluctant to listen about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Her about five nights. But how did you not figure that?
Figure that out?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Well, I don't spend my day watching bearded dragon videos,
you know, I spend that time driving to the PetSmart
to buy the damn thing crickets because it eats fifty
every two days.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Hey, speaking of we, uh, it was revealed that we found.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Out you've got a female one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, so Petros, are you disappointed by that?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Oddly? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Are you concerned about it? Like protraating?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
No, I mean it might lay eggs, but there's no
man to inseminate him, so uh fertilize. Well, it's it's
a glass cage, could be sneaking out, Petro. Uh No,
I'm not upset about it. It's just kind of weird.
It's like, you know, now it's like hey girl, you
know instead of I mean, it's still a lizard.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You know, maybe it hasn't identified what it wants to.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well, yeah, we went through all that, you know, the
non binary stuff and what I've been saying to the
lizard all this time maybe confusing it, but uh, you know, overall,
I feel like, uh, you know, despite the misleading few
months of a gender identity, that the lizard is well
cared for and not damaged too much by my lack
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of pronouns.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Do you, Patros, do you think that part of this
is maybe a little karma with your bearded dragon because
of all the insults you've thrown at Brady Quinn over
his love of imagined dragons? Do you think this is
in some way a little bit of karma.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I think that's a hell of a read.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm just trying to get you.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Know, I mean, I really do. I mean you could
say I used to make fun of radio guys and
all they did was talk about Dame of Thrones, and
now I have a female dragon too.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I happened to be at Lollapaluz that imagine dragons is there,
and all of a sudden I get lumped into an
imagined dragons group.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, and you got me.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
You know who told me they go to concerts, big
festivals and put on sunglasses and a hat and no
one knows it's him, which I thought was pretty interesting.
Was Troy Polamalu. Troy, you know, I saw him the
other day and he told me he goes to Coachella
every year, but no one knows because of the hat
and sunglasses. You know, Troy is not six I don't
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even think he's six feet tall.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
That's the think it is. If you're tall, people immediately
start to be like, oh, he must have done something.
Troy's not that tall.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yeah, you look like the nutcracker with a big package.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, he goes to which is kind of funny, you know,
because Troy is like the most straight edged dude I'd
ever met. And you can imagine, like, you know, Brady
being all drunk watching imagine Dragons and you look over
and there's Troy Polamalu and like mirrored sunglasses and a hat,
look like a secret service agent.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Is a great point.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I would ask, you're the one that took it here.
You know, I could have talked about the four Corner
schools in the Big Twelve, but you guys wanted to
talk about dragon gender identity, balloon arches. Yeah, and imagine dragons.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would love to get back to the balloon arches personally,
I mean, I feel like you're not a fan for
it was like a moment in your childhood where you
didn't you'd never a good experience with the blue arch.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Well look, I mean I grew up in a restaurant,
so you know a lot of the time, like people
would throw parties and then your job was to like
retrieve the balloons and then you know, let them all
go into the sky and watch them go into the
harbor and kill a bunch of porpoises. You know, I
just have bad memories, I guess, I just it's great
to have balloons. His dedication to the balloons over other
things is alarming. Nobody does a better job setting up
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our shows and doing the whole summer tour thing than
Dave Wee.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I feel like that's really what the problem is, because
if there's a technical glitch or something like that, you go, well,
that probably wouldn't be here had he not been so
obsessive over the balloon arches.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, you got to feel
like the balloon arch at what cost?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Just sacrificing great radio for you know, for a balloon arch.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Well that's the other thing. You know, like you do
a show, you pack all these people in, you have
all these prizes to give away, and suddenly the show starts,
and usually about six minutes in, I see everybody's face,
and everybody's face is slowly coming to the realization that
they've showed up for a four hour talk show, that
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they are actually going to sit through four hours of
AM radio, and that is always kind of a tough
thing to watch people go through.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Patrius, do you think we're done with conference re alignment?
Is it over?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Will never be done. It will never be done until
there's like, you know, NC double A tournament style and
it's uh, it's one big giant conference. But we've talked
about this for a long time. You know, how long
is the NC double A model sustainable for college football?
You know, the NC Double A has very little to
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do with college football even today, other than the fact
that their clearing house is how people get eligible Division one.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
The other divisions they have more of an influence.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Well, yeah, but what are we talking about. You know,
we're not talking about calous vision. Yeah. So, I mean
college has to get out from under that umbrella because
simply there's too much money being made and the fact
that there's so much money being made is part of
the reason we've had all this stuff happening and on
hyper speed. It feels like for the last fifteen years.
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It's because the NCUBA model is really, really, really showing
its wear and tear. It's very threadbare, and they're letting
everybody do anything they want. Transfer rules nil, all the
stuff that used to define the nc Doubla they're no
longer even enforcing. They're scared of losing their biggest revenue
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cash cow, so they let college football do whatever it wants.
But ultimately, all of this movement is a movement away
from the nc DOUBLEA, who doesn't even run the college
football playoff anymore. That's a separate entity. That's not an
NCUBA trophy. It's not made of wood, and it doesn't
look like a Best Western from nineteen seventy nine. That's
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what the NCUBLEA trophy looks like, you know, the one
that they raise up after the basketball tournament. So I
think that's where we're headed. And until we head there,
you know where it's a much more professional model and
the players are being paid in a more uniform way,
then we're just going to have these weird pretzel logic
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conversations for years and years.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Does it get awkward? Yes, this year four PAC twelve
people involved. From the media standpoint, from the school's interaction standpoint, like,
how does this year play out in your opinion, you know,
in regards to obviously the departures taking place and everybody
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deciding pretty much to leave.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I think it's a great question, LeVar, because I feel
like I feel some of that now representing Fox and
doing some games in the conference. Not everybody is super
happy with us. Kyle Whittingham comes to mind, and some
different situations and conversations that I've had, and maybe they
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think it's our fault because of this or that. Everybody
can decide who to blame in this situation. But I
think the AD or the president at Washington State, or
I think it was the AD was Pat Chun who
said it best that this happened because the conference has
been mismanaged for over a decade and that's where you
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can lay blame. But yeah, I think it's going to
be awkward. You know, you have all this post realignment
forensics going on, like Oregon said they would have never
left if Washington didn't leave, and then you know, wait, no,
it was Washington that left, and Orgon followed, and you
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know Arizona with all the BS, their presidents saying, you know, well,
well we were ready to sign the PAC twelve deal,
and then the next it's such bs, and it's all
such a lie, and it's such revisionist history. Everybody was
going to leave when the second they could, the second
USC and UCLA left the PAC twelve. Once that happened,
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the quicksand started and the whole thing was done, And
anything anybody told you since then is a lie. It's
all posturing and lying and bs. You think you just
join a football conference randomly, like buying a car off
of the car Fox or whatever. No, it takes months
and months and the kicking of the tires and the
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going back and forth and all that. It's a lot
more like like buying a hotel, you know, and it
doesn't happen overnight to like, hey, we're joining the Big twelve. Okay.
You know. The fact that we all had to sit
there and swallow that like that was the timeline of
the way things were happening is insulting. So you know,
there's there's gonna be a lite lot of bitterness, but
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and I think, you know, Oregon State, Washington State, Stanford,
and Cal are the ones that are going to feel
it the most because they're the ones right now that
don't have a home as far as twenty twenty four goes.
And that's awkward. But I wonder how it's going to be.
You know, there's the school of thought LeVar that once
we start playing football, football is football and you go
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game to the one game to the next. But it's
hard to look past that the fact that the conference
is not going to exist after this year, and then
this year on paper looks like one of the most
promising years in conference history, which is modern history, which
is really odd. So it makes for a combustible situation
if the coaches act weird, I'll let you know.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday morning? Fine, yeah, yeah,
hump day. Yeah, come on, now, we do have a
brand new We do have a brand new era of
football for the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's not only jim Irsay talking about death and Jonathan
Taylor not being in the league, but they have made
a big announcement at quarterback. Anthony Richardson, the number four
pick in this year's draft, the stud with the raw
talent out of Florida. After one preseason game, the Indianapolis
Colts have named him the starting quarterback for the season opener,
(00:49):
and Richardson shared his reaction to the news yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Honestly, I would you know, I've been grondre and quitting
network just to you know, get the title. But you
know it's not really all about a title, you know,
I'm just trying to make sure I'm ready for the team.
You know, despite you know, being labeled as QB one.
You know, I still got other guys in the room
helping me, you know, get to that standard. So I'm
forever thankful for them. You know, I appreciate them, and
I'm glad. You know, I did get the nod, and
(01:15):
you know, I do have the trust in and everybody
in the building to think that I am QB one.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How the hell is he shocked?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean I was shocked too. He would have thought
after Thember four overall, we thought that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I thought they were going to slow play this for
a few years.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, I thought maybe, you know, like Jordan love style,
you know, yeah, let Minshew be in there for about
three years and then, uh, then we'll give.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Him a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right those days are over right.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean and on top of it, like you
saw in just the short stint of the preseason so far,
why they took him where they took him. You know,
he's got so much ability. I just hope Colts fans
are patient with him. I mean, he's started one game
of college football and there's gonna be some some growing
that being said that, they could do some things to simplify,
(02:03):
you know, stuff for him. Shane Stegen does a good
job playing to his strengths, but I mean he's he
could be special now. I mean if he could put
it all together consistently, he could be one of the
best quarterbacks in the league. He's got that sort of
talent and ability. It's just about, you know, can he
how can he get to that point? Because because he
is very inexperienced, right, I mean that's something that it's
(02:25):
hard to overcome that, especially when you start playing the NFL,
you start from day one.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy for a young man,
but look, you obviously have to prove and show that
that that's something that they need to take a chance on.
I mean, sure, you take them, you know, as high
as you did. But if he's not ready, you would
assume that they're not just going to throw him in.
(02:51):
I mean you would assume. I mean, maybe they're in
a situation where they have to play them no matter what.
In Indianapolis, but you know, it had a little little
turnover turnover deal. But he does look like he has
the poise. He does have the understanding of what it
takes to be the starter, and you know, you don't
(03:13):
always see that out of out of a young guy.
I like his demeanor. I mean, I think you know
we heard the little SoundBite. I mean I saw the
interviews on him after the game on on on the television,
and I just I like, I like the demeanor of
this new group of quarterbacks all together. They're just like
(03:33):
seems to be like this collective kind of of deal
across the board where these young quarterbacks just have a
way about themselves. And I'm not just talking about these
guys that just got drafted or Richardson in particular. I'm
just talking about just this whole new group all together,
(03:55):
you know, from from the you know quarterback and Jacksonville
the quarterback in in Carolina. So you're talking about Trevor Lawrence,
You're talking about Bryce Young, We we talked about how
Jalen Hurts is wise beyond his years. Just this youth
movement of quarterbacks out there, it really does seem like
(04:16):
it gives you the feeling to be excited about where
where the league could possibly end up with the type
of talent that these guys are, but also the type
of men you know that they are. So I'm happy
for Richardson. I think that it's it's a I think
it's a it's a solid move by them. There are
manly men, you know, men, is there that might sound
(04:41):
weird these days, you know, like you might think that
that's that's just like we're joking. But men, men, men,
I mean something about it, Matt.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But you make a good point, though, LeVar, because is
there any quarterback in the NFL that you say, oh,
that guys a D bag?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Not right now?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, so you're saying they've removed the d bags.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
From the like they're not there anymore. I just like, yeah,
I can't really think of any quarterback in the NFL
that I go all. That guy's kind of a tool,
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The kid in New York gave you a tool. But
you know, I don't know. I don't know if it's
on purpose or or if it was by accident or
by influence. I don't know. But he did give you
a little bit of you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Kind of that who Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, it's like not my fault, you know, it's like,
you know it it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Is regrettable moment.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I'll deal with my mom's friends if I want to.
And you know, I just I'm just saying, yeah, maybe
that could be one that is interpreted as one. But
I mean, for the most part, when you go across
the board of this youth movement. I mean from Herbert
to Joey Cool and Cincinnati. You know, it's just to me.
(05:52):
I mean, even if you move into the next tier
of guys that are still considered to be fairly young
in the league, Like for as much as he's done,
he's still fairly young. And and Patrick Mahomes like, these
guys aren't old old players. So a lot of these
these these quarterbacks that are starting are fairly young, and
(06:16):
they all seem to be pretty solid dudes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, Mahomes on twenty seven years old. Yeah, it was
funny because remember a few years ago, there was some
concern like, man, there's a lot of great quarterbacks retiring.
Ben Roethlisberg or Eli Manning, Philip Like, there was like,
and what's the NFL going to do? Are we gonna
get another great crop of quarterbacks? And it's like every
year you've got the next big thing that gets drafted.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
We always say that though, I mean, it's like we
always have concern when some of the grades start to retire.
The we're like, oh and another one pops up, another
guy pops up. I mean I was talking about this
with a buddy. I have zero concern about the future
for quarterback play because at a at a lower level,
the quarterback training, the private training has gotten so much
better and coaches, players, dads, I mean, they're all so
(07:04):
much more knowledgeable about like the proper throwing motion. I
remember like being in my probably like I think seventh
after my seventh year, going to my eighth year, and
I had a back injury, and so I'd got out
to California with Tom Alise, Adam Dato and those guys
to rehab, and how they were teaching the throwing motion
was so different than anything I'd been taught before. And
(07:28):
I'm like almost thirty years old, and I'm sitting there.
I'm like, well, I'm not gonna be able to change
everything right now, like like you're too far along. You've
got millions of reps at that point. And I'm like, damn,
I wish I would have learned this when I was young,
Like like I wish I knew and had all this
when I was young. And I'm watching all these young kids,
I'm like, they're gonna be taught the proper way and
(07:49):
the right way, and it's more of like a rotational
throw instead of like more of like an over the
top and that changed from you know, when I was
young being taught and how you can aarry the football,
how you you know, how your release works out. All
that changed and so these kids coming in now, they
are so much more prepared with their mechanics, the more
(08:09):
prepared with the drills, the way the you know, maidenance
there arm everything. I mean even mentally, with the access
you have to watch film. I mean, you could go
watch NFL games as a kid, get your parents because
you get you a subscription, go watch the game tape.
You could do that. Back then you had to watch
the games yourself and hope you could go watch what
was it Ron Jorski, who'd go back and you have
(08:32):
the tape to go back?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh yeah, JENNFL matchup.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I couldna stay up late to watch that because they
buried that bad point later.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, that was one of their best shows. Why they
bury it?
Speaker 5 (08:41):
It was like an eleven or one am I don't
I don't know why that buries it so great?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it was good stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah. They say the same thing about current MMA fighters
that back in the day, you would be a wrestler
who learned MMA, or you'd be a striker who is
learning MMA and nowadays you're just an MMA fight like
you learn all of that stuff from the get go
to where you're more well rounded. And so when you
see fighters now and compared to fighters you know fifteen
(09:09):
twenty years ago, it's night and day. Just with the
development of how these guys are trained and how they
start their careers when it comes to fighting. Now one
of the guys, I mean, this is a great story
for Anthony Richardson. We're happy for him, but then it
does bring up the point Gardner Minshew one of the
great characters, a guy who's had success when he's gotten
(09:31):
an opportunity, the Wazu Alum, the product of Mike Leach.
He's now the backup quarterback again. And so Gardner Minshew
spoke about the news of Anthony Richardson being named starting
quarterback and pretty much understands why the move was made.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Super excited for Anthony and the opportunity that he has.
You know, this is his franchise, you know, that's the
reason they picked him where he is and man, he's
gonna be really special.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
So I'm excited to.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Work, continue to get better and figure out how to
win some games.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right there.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Anytime you put so much endo something, you know, it
can be disappointing when you don't, you know, hear what
you want to hear. But I totally understand, and I'm
all all them with what we got going. Really, I
can't extress. And I really excited for Anthony Man. I
think he's going to be really special.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think he's got a.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Great opportunity here and just we're gonna just try to
figure out how to win some games.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Is mince you ever going to get a shot?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean probably not the way he hopes or wishes.
You know, it comes from injury, it comes from something
not working out, and then you got to kind of
go take over a bad situation. I mean that's the
reality when you get to his spot in the NFL
where he had some time to play games. I thought
he played well in a really bad situation in Jacksonville
(10:46):
and yet didn't get much much of a shot. He's
had a good camp from all accounts. I mean, he's
done a good job. This is more of a matter
of it was a business decision. They go with a
younger player who they feel like has more upside and
it can be really really special. So he's got the
right attitude. He's a I'm telling you he's one of
the funniest dudes in the NFL. He really is. He's
(11:06):
got he's got a personality to him.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Is he still living in the bus thing for a while.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I don't think so anymore. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Solid dude, man. That's a that's a solid response to
an adverse situation that didn't pan out exactly the way
that you'd like for it to pan out. But I
think Gardner Minshew is in a really, really advantageous position.
And the reason being is you name, you name, your
(11:36):
your high draft pick as the starter, and and it
looks as though he should be good enough to hold
the position even through some rough play. But with that
being said, we've seen how things can happen in in Indianapolis.
And keep in mind, you have an owner that says
if he dies, no one will care or makes something
(11:56):
that the show will continue on. And I don't need
to pay our start running back because well no one cares,
then the game will not miss you. It'll continue on.
So that means that anyone can get it in Indianapolis
if things aren't going the way that they're supposed to
be going because well, quite frankly, no one cares.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Do you think Ers and Minshew will have a cocktail
at some point together this year?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I hope why not have to help for all involved?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I hope you have to forty four touchdowns fifteen picks
for his career.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I mean, would you, I mean once you have a
cocktail with him?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah? I just I want to know how did the
flake a go?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You do more?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I want to know, hey, hey, what does Dan Snyder
have on you now that he's gone? I'd want to
there's a lot of stuff that Jim Mersey knows.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Why would he have something now that he's gone?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, like, hey, Dan Snyder must have had something on you,
what were you most concerned about that was would be released?
If Dan Snyder, I don't know, jimmers.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Into an open book man. He does seem to be
an open book.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'd ask him about the trash bag full of pills
and cash in the backseat. I'd ask about that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
There's a lot of you know, why he has a
trash bag full of cash and pills?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Why does he have it?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean, you don't know that equation? You need me
to spell that one out.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's a lot of cash with a lot of pills.
Why is it in a trash bag? Wouldn't you have
like a Louis Vuitton like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A party night to me? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean so it sounds like it is a
legitimate question. When you're you know, as rich as Jimmers said,
you figured you'd.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Have a better bag full of pills and.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Cash or even like just like a paper bag, like
something that was just more recyclable, better for the environment.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
One thing you you you tend to learn about the
super ridiculously stinking wealthy rich dudes, is they wealthy because
they cheap? That's they're not cheap, but they're not cheap
about things that they don't want to be cheap about.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
You know. So just the recreational drug use, I.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Mean, you know, for for for that's for him, that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Is that probably something you don't want to cut corners on, you.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Would think, but you know, they have altered reality.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's like, hey, are these somas? Well it starts with
an ass that's fine, okay, and just throw it in
there and we'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah that's a hefty like yeah, yeah, you know, I
could always get another one. Real quick right out.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
The lad's always got the better smelling ones.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, if you don't glad, But you know I could,
you know, I could dispose of this one pool, another
one out.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
You know, let's keep it moving to that double baggage.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That is one of the great advancements in household technology,
the fact that they add a scent to the trash bags.
Now it is complete to change the game.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, although it has not deterred the raccoons to
get in my trash. I don't know, you guys were
doing well.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We technically have bigger raccoons going through that trash around here.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But I was going to ask you this the other day,
but we're all about the clock, so I didn't want
to be laid on the segment. Did the raccoon have
they crapped in your pool recently? Braidy because I was no.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
But they were like eating very well out of our trash.
Can I mean, I can't get over how intelligent these
things are. They If I'm on one, they use as
leverage to open it up. They get down inside it,
but they like figure out how to prop it up.
I mean, these things could be a domesticated household pet
at this point. They're so smart. I'm thinking about next
time we buy pizza, I'm gonna buy like a small
(15:14):
personal pizzas. Leave it out, to leave it out, I
guarantee you they'll show up. They'll crush it, leave a
thank you note. Yeah, I mean, we're not that far
off from having raccoons that become a pet at some
point based on how these things are eating.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, it's gonna be selfies, you know, and selfie videos,
TikTok videos of trash, trash can.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, bs man, these whatever whatever pause and and
you know digits they've got, they utilize those things.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, they do, they really do. We got beer coons
out here, you know. You know they go through the
trash a little differently than propping themselves up. You just
hear boom, you know, and it's like they move stuff
like a little. Do they make any noise? Like do
they yeah? Oh yeah, make a noise you know when
they're out there. They don't.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
And they come every every day and saying knocking stuff
around and saying.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
They're like, oh, like like what you can hear them breathing.
You can hear them breathing.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
What does that sound like? I can't really can can't
really simulate it, but you can.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Hear them breathing.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Shot.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
No, Jonas, can you do it? No, that's not how
it sounds. That's how that sounds.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
It's a real it's a real heavy. It's it's heavy.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Not so snoring?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Sleeping?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, not snoring. So did you snore?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Johns?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I thought you asked me to do a Jim Mersey.
Sorry about that. I was I was trying.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To ye cleaning trees.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
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Speaker 2 (16:54):
So I just wanted to point this out because we
actually did get some positive feedback here on the show,
and I wanted to give a shout out to Brad Gatey,
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message he loves the show. Could not have been nicer
and could not have been kinder. So when we tell
you that we're on hundreds of affiliates all across the country,
(17:14):
we mean it. And the fact that Brad starts his
mornings every day with us here and lets us be
a part of his mornings and his commute to work
or whatever he's got going on. Just wanted to give
a little shout out.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
To Brad Gaatey.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So pretty cool that we have that kind of a
reach here on this show. So some positive right here. Also,
can I.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Try to help me to finish the story OFFWTIL the
last time.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's your embarrassing story. That's your business. I don't still
want to.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Create a bad first impression. I feel like yesterday did
not go well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I mean, LeVar, you can you can speak to this
because you've transitioned like schools that you're coaching at right, Okay, No,
I'm just saying like you don't want to make a
bad first impression. I just and like blippy, I had
my fly down because I'd used the rest for my
orientation and it was happened to be not noticed by
anyone within my family. It had to be someone who
(18:05):
eventually noticed that was which I was like, whoops, that
is not good for your daughter's orientation when their first
time changing to a new school.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, how could your wife have not noticed it?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I mean, we've got three kids were wrangling around and
and they're all like, you know, so excited. It's just
it's the last thing on any of our minds, clearly
the last thing on my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And so the teacher noticed that your fly was down.
So I would ask the same question that you guys
asked us. Why was she looking there?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Well, you know what, I don't even want to go there.
I don't even want to go there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, we all know why in that scenario.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's obvious?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
This is why I don want to talk about this.
This is what you two do.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Come on, No, I'm just saying it's it's obvious. I
don't need to say it. Everybody who heard the story
was thinking the same exact thing. Men would like to
be like him, women want to be with him. I mean,
it's you know, he says one of those things like
a like a commercial. You know, all we needed was
like a fragrant, a fragrance or like a T shirt
(19:09):
or an underwear line or something like that, and then bam,
there it is. That's branding, instant branding right there. We
want to move it, move some product, move some units,
you know, improve our.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Product, like uh, Michael or shakedown or something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No, I mean I do think LeVar is onto something though.
This is a marketing opportunities thank you. I feel like
Calvin I was.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I was hoping LeVar would chime in and be like, yeah, man,
I had this one awkward experience souse coaching at a different.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
School and you know, yeah, I mean we're.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Going to keep this one on you, my guy. Yeah,
We're going to keep this one right where it is.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What did I do to deserve this, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean you, I mean yeah, you know, blame it
on your parents, man, you know, blame it on Chopper.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You put his best foot forward. Man, I mean, it
just is what it is, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
A little hot for teacher. I mean like it makes sense,
you know if you think about it.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, mister Quinn, No, no.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
We're not doing this. Here's the problem is like it's
not like there was a ton of conversation beforehand. So
that's that's like that's like the icebreaker. It's like, okay,
I mean I don't think I'll be honest with you.
The more I think about it. If you're single out
there right and you're at a bar, that might be
(20:33):
the moon like I zip your pants, Yeah, you might
as well. And then and then you hope that someone
like someone you like, notices it and they bring it up,
because that's pretty problem.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know. Maybe that's when you're looking dude like you
could you could get away with doing stuff like that
when you look like me and you have your zipper
down there, like sir, Uh, we're gonna have to ask
you to leave. You're you're inappropriate right now? Is this
we're you know, we're just uncomfortable or or the other
one would be, uh, a pad on your shoulder. It
(21:07):
would be like the you know, squad car they called
they called the cops. It's a creeper in here.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I mean, listen, it happens to the best of us.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
H it works out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's all right. Now, was it uncomfortable after that
encounter with the teacher noticing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
That I was not?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And how many times did you see her after?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That was it at least for that time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Mean how about during the course of the year, And
did she look at you the same exact way or
did she have a different look in her eyes? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
I don't know. I really I regret getting into this.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Hey, batter up. You know it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Were there any more teachers with her? Every time she
knew about your parent teacher conference?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
All right, we were in, we were out, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Like, why why? Literally why are there two other teachers
from two other topics subject in this in this meeting?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There's a lot of teachers here. What's going on? How
come everybody's fixing their hair and putting makeup on? I
don't get it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Oh, you don't look like a teacher right now, look
like you're going to the club.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Did anybody hand you a back brace and just say
you look like you need to use this. I'm just
trying to get to the.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Bottom of this figure.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The more I'd be quiet, The more I'm quiet, the
better chance we have a segue into our actual topic
for this. This is this is the actual topic, man.
This is By the way.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You did bring up the Michael Wore shakedown, which I
think is an appropriate segue from what we just talked about.
So from one shakedown to another down, So I.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Feel exposed. You were, Yeah, so are the twoies I
guess I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, definitely, so were they. By the way, the more
that comes out on this, the more it stinks, and
the more it feels like maybe Michael Orr he's reaching,
didn't really understand.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Well, what can you just lay out the facts so
people kind of hear.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So the Twoey's lawyer released a statement yesterday and basically
said that Michael Or has tried this before and that
other lawyers have backed out seeing the evidence that he
doesn't really have a case that he knew what he signed,
he knew what was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
They also a book about it in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, and so I guess it's like, Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Once you write a book and you admit that, then
you kind of like throw it, throws any evidence out
the window, or at least his claim out the window,
And it just so happens he's got another book that's dropping,
and so it seems like it's more of a ploy
to get attention and sell this book and then try
to get a movie deal out of it. That's at
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least what it seems on the outside.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I guess he has tried this before. He hit
him up and said, if you know, if you don't
give me fifteen million dollars, I'll release a negative story
about you or something along those lines.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
They also said, hasn't that extortion essentially? Yeah, And the
tough part is is the family that you know adopted
him or had the conservatorship, they've already made all their money. Yeah,
they sold their business for like two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Is a rest like a fast food restaurant chain or
something like that for twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So it's like, if anyone's being exploited here, it's them.
Like they took this young man in and tried to
provide him a home and care and all that compared
to the life he was living. And this isn't like
my opinion of it, this is like from his book
and yeah, then he turns around and does this, and
then you come to find out he's got a new
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book drive. Then you come to find out he's trying
to maybe cash in on what could be a second
movie where he's saying, no, this is my story. It's like, well,
hold on a second, Like, I don't understand even if
you want to have a second movie, a sequel, whatever,
why do you have to throw the family that helped
you out in the first place under the bus for
all this? Well, oh, it's just because they've they've already
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made a ton of money before he even was in
their life at that point. I mean even talks about
you know, they tried to advise them to go with
a certain agent, and apparently he didn't take their advice,
had a different agent, ended up having to fire the
agent and going back to the guy they originally recommended.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, and there was also one of the points that
was made by the lawyer in his statement was that
I guess they agreed to equal shares everybody when it
came to this movie and the royalties that came from
the movie. And even in the midst of all this,
they still deposited his equal share into a trust fund
that they set up. They're not making those claims unless
they've got proof that that deposit was made correct, Like
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I just right right, I find it hard to believe.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
And just so people understand why they'd put in a
trust because they wanted to limit him from having the
ability to access it all of it at once and
probably blow all the money, which is what a lot
of people believe is why he's doing this in the
first place, is because he made what close to thirty
five million. Yeah, and maybe he hasn't saved it or
invested it wisely, and so it's literally for that reason,
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Like that would be one of the things I wish
that you could do with some of the student athletes
who are getting a nil money is put it into
a fund, into a trust where they can't touch it
until they're done with college and they at least they
get into the NFL. But you know, again, you should
see some of the stuff these kids spend money on. Yeah,
And it's like you see it when I was playing
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on a small, small scale because you didn't have any money.
But when you had a few hundred bucks or something,
or you get like your Bowl your Bowl game money
where they give you like a thousand bucks or two
thousand bucks to travel, you see what guys go spend
it on. And you're like, all right, like imagine if
that was two hundred thousand, what they'd do with that money.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, but a thousand bucks at twenty years old, when
you're broke.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Oh my gosh, rich, you're rich.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You could do a lot with that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I remember scraping change together to get like a slice
of pizza side when I was living in zomb Hall.
It's not even a dorm anymore at Notre Dame and
I was like you kind of just felt like you're alive,
you know, like this is it, man, I'm grinding like
just there was something to like the struggle of like
you know, trying to figure it out how you're gonna
make it work without like many resources.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
At times that was fun.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What was the most broke you guys ever were? Do
you remember a moment.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
My two door for Explorer Sport and I was like,
this is when I was like doing Mike well at
Notre Dame, right, that thing you I had always park
so I could put in drive. Because it couldn't go
in reverse, my driver's side door would not open. I
had to get in from the passenger side. It was
one of those two doors where like you know the
seats like you hit a thing and they slide up. Well,
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both the little knobs that you engaged to slide the
seat up didn't work, so people just climbed into the
back if they got in my car. I had a
after stock or after factory unit that just came with
the car when it was bought, like center console, you
know like with the CD player. Oh yeah, if you
stopped too hard, that thing would come out. Yeah, it
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would just drop right into like where the cup holders were.
And then the last thing that I still didn't figure out.
I'm sure someone listening is probably a better with a
like a gearhead or engine head could figure this out.
But I'd be driving and it would sound like the
a plane was taken off, like that car would like
it would just I was like, and I wasn't changing gears,
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just driving on the highway, like driving down to Oxford,
Ohio at the time to see my high school sweetheart.
I'd be like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna
make it like it always felt like that thing was
gonna break down. But that was that was when I
was like, man, this is this is probably not the
safest decision.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I can remember walking into a supermarket having ten dollars
and four forty four cents in my checking account and thinking,
I got to buy food for a week. Who's the
worst I'd ever eaten.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
In my life?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Man, you know what it gets me with with the
Michael Orr situation, Why wouldn't he take the reverse angle
of this? Why is he taking such a negative and
confrontational angle to what's taking taking place, Like, for one,
you became a household, name the dollars. What's he doing?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It's the opposite, Like, you don't sue them, you ask
for him.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Go to them. Yeah, you go to them, don't try
to extort them, like tell them like you know, I'm
I'm your big black son, like I love you, love me,
I love you, Like we're getting the wild you know,
let's let's get reacquainted and watch blimpies and can y'all
give me some money?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I mean for real though, like getting the will like
like this, this doesn't allow any chance of that, although
the family has been really sweet about it.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I guess the son that spoke and I've met them,
I've spent time with them at the Preakness before. Seemed
like a very lovely family. You know, they invited us
to hang out. They got a private jet. I hope
I'm not out private yet, but you know, they they invited,
you know, go shopping shopping trips while we go golf.
And I don't even golf, but I was going to
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go golf, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you're
do in that case, right, I'm saying. And I'm not
even Michael or I know.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I was like, let's go to adopt you.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I mean, I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to it,
wouldn't be opposed to it.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They seem like a lovely They seem like the type
of people.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You wake up, you you smell food on in the kitchen,
you know, coming from the kitchen, like spread like by
the time you get to a certain point in time,
you wash your hands and get yourself ready for supper,
you know, like and you smell it on the barbecue pit.
Like that's just the type of family they seem like.
They were like like they're going to be consistent type people,
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you know what I mean? Like, I just I just
the more I thought about the story, I was just like,
why not take the other the other side of it,
like you're you would never be as famous and listen
and this even he transcended the game of football based
off of a movie, Like you know how much money
he could be making if he parlayed that into like
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giving speeches and stuff like that, like the Blind It's
already framed up for you, like start like the movie
was made after you like this, this is a great
story of perseverance, Like you know how much money you
can command for that? He should have been building his
brand the entire time instead of like like you're you're
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diminishing and devaluing something that already exists and is great
by the way, like it's a great movie, it's a
dope ass movie. Like whether they got something I liked it,
whether they had some interaction your seas or whatever, the
depiction of what his story is all the way.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Then you have the opportunity to go into forums and
you can.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Clear it up while you're making a difference and making
a boatload of money doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You can do public speaking and make a grip on
just your story around the country. Yes done, Yeah, done.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But it seems like an easy way out approach to me.
But you know that's just me thinking out loud.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, all, just start gambling, all right, do the same thing.
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Speaker 2 (33:11):
Right now, we turn it over to the Old Pe.
Petros Papadeikis. He is the co host of the Petros
and Money Show on the Blowtorch AM five seven e
LA Sports. He's also a Fox College football analyst. You
get him on Twitter or x or whatever it's called
at the Old Pe. Petro's good morning. It was great
seeing you last week.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Yes, hello to everybody, Hello, good morning.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Hello, How was that last week?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
How was what?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
The remote?
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah? The remote?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Well we got another one on Friday and the Land's headquarters.
You know, Brady, they comes fast and furious. I used
to really rest on my laurels doing these Like we
used to be like, wow, two hundred people showed up,
and it's like now, you know, ten years later, it's like,
oh my god, only six hundred people showed up. What's
wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's belt so.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Is it's just a reset. You know, we got Mark
Sanchez coming out, I guess all right, yeah, to get
him to uh, we're trying to. I mean, Joe Klatt
always says like, I'll come to the last one and
then never will yeah, and then it's like, no, I'm
taking the kids to Zion, you know. Okay? Uh so
uh yeah, we got we got another one on Friday
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at the Van's headquarters from three to six. I think
we have the the seventh edition of the Petrosen Money
Van shoes are going to be given away.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I've seen those are sweet.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, and a ten thousand dollars grand prize and a
trip to Hawaii to Pipeline, a trip to Vegas, a
TV and we've got a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Man, that's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
We need your promotional people to.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Anyway, you're blaming the promotional people, I know. I mean,
I mean it took like, you know, seventeen eighteen years
to build those things, you.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Know, but yes, well good.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I think it's the.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Same promotional person that we use. But the promotional person,
if you really want to know, the promotional person that
works for Fox Sports Radio is actually employed by the Blowtorch.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh we're talking about the Dave Weiste.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Talking about Dave. Yeah, everything he does for Fox Sports
Radios out of the goodness of his heart.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yes, And he's a man of his word, always a
man of his word. Hit him up for tickets. If
you don't hear from him again, don't worry about it.
He's a man of his word.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
He's a terrible liary.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, he definitely is.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Worse than George Kleiavkov the marketing guy. What do you.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Expect now before you broke out your knife at the
live remote last Friday and started stabbing everything from balloons
to beer camp.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Well, it's annoying, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know what, what is it? A balloon art? Like
Dave Weis cares more about a balloon arch than anything
in the world. It's like, oh, the sound is screwed up, yeah,
but the balloon arch. It's like, oh, people can at park. Yeah,
but did you see this balloon arch?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Balloon arch?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, so I you know, toward the answer of the show,
I usually like to wield my knife and just start
popping balloon And I.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Do love a good balloon arch.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
By the way, though it is something to it, I
don't know it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Speaking of I can I just jump in here really
quickly and ask this question before we get into talking sports. Seriously,
I think maybe you probably won't. I heard there was
a tremendous reveal or a fine that took place, and
I hope I'm not stealing this from you, Jones.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, I wanted to get to it anyway, since is okay.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I just wanted to get some clarity on the whole
your bearded, uh, the dragted family friend and you thought
your family friend was.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I was told that it was a boy by my wife,
and then my daughter, who did further research, figured out
that my lizard is a girl.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now how was this? How was this discovered?
Speaker 6 (36:59):
I guess you got to look at the underside and
there's like two lumps if it's a boy or if
it's a boy, yeah, there's two lumps, and if it's
a girl, there's one lump. And also there's a lack
of head bobbing. She doesn't bob her head a lot,
I guess, which is what the guys do. And her
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her under under her chin has not turned black like
it does for a lot of the boys. So my
daughter did I only let my daughter watch YouTube. You know,
she's only eight so you know, we let her watch YouTube,
but only like reptile tutorials and stuff because she likes them.
So she she finally figured it out that it was
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a I was reluctant to listen about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Her about five nights. But how did you not figure that?
Figure that out?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Well, I don't spend my day watching bearded dragon videos,
you know, I spend that time driving to the PetSmart
to buy the damn thing crickets because it eats fifty
every two days.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Hey, speaking of we, uh, it was revealed that we found.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Out you've got a female one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, so Petros, are you disappointed by that?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Oddly? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Are you concerned about it? Like protraating?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
No, I mean it might lay eggs, but there's no
man to inseminate him, so uh fertilize. Well, it's it's
a glass cage, could be sneaking out, Petro. Uh No,
I'm not upset about it. It's just kind of weird.
It's like, you know, now it's like hey girl, you
know instead of I mean, it's still a lizard.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You know, maybe it hasn't identified what it wants to.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well, yeah, we went through all that, you know, the
non binary stuff and what I've been saying to the
lizard all this time maybe confusing it, but uh, you know, overall,
I feel like, uh, you know, despite the misleading few
months of a gender identity, that the lizard is well
cared for and not damaged too much by my lack
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of pronouns.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Do you, Patros, do you think that part of this
is maybe a little karma with your bearded dragon because
of all the insults you've thrown at Brady Quinn over
his love of imagined dragons? Do you think this is
in some way a little bit of karma.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I think that's a hell of a read.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm just trying to get you.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Know, I mean, I really do. I mean you could
say I used to make fun of radio guys and
all they did was talk about Dame of Thrones, and
now I have a female dragon too.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I happened to be at Lollapaluz that imagine dragons is there,
and all of a sudden I get lumped into an
imagined dragons group.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, and you got me.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
You know who told me they go to concerts, big
festivals and put on sunglasses and a hat and no
one knows it's him, which I thought was pretty interesting.
Was Troy Polamalu. Troy, you know, I saw him the
other day and he told me he goes to Coachella
every year, but no one knows because of the hat
and sunglasses. You know, Troy is not six I don't
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even think he's six feet tall.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
That's the think it is. If you're tall, people immediately
start to be like, oh, he must have done something.
Troy's not that tall.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yeah, you look like the nutcracker with a big package.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, he goes to which is kind of funny, you know,
because Troy is like the most straight edged dude I'd
ever met. And you can imagine, like, you know, Brady
being all drunk watching imagine Dragons and you look over
and there's Troy Polamalu and like mirrored sunglasses and a hat,
look like a secret service agent.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Is a great point.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I would ask, you're the one that took it here.
You know, I could have talked about the four Corner
schools in the Big Twelve, but you guys wanted to
talk about dragon gender identity, balloon arches. Yeah, and imagine dragons.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would love to get back to the balloon arches personally,
I mean, I feel like you're not a fan for
it was like a moment in your childhood where you
didn't you'd never a good experience with the blue arch.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Well look, I mean I grew up in a restaurant,
so you know a lot of the time, like people
would throw parties and then your job was to like
retrieve the balloons and then you know, let them all
go into the sky and watch them go into the
harbor and kill a bunch of porpoises. You know, I
just have bad memories, I guess, I just it's great
to have balloons. His dedication to the balloons over other
things is alarming. Nobody does a better job setting up
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our shows and doing the whole summer tour thing than
Dave Wee.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I feel like that's really what the problem is, because
if there's a technical glitch or something like that, you go, well,
that probably wouldn't be here had he not been so
obsessive over the balloon arches.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, you got to feel
like the balloon arch at what cost?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Just sacrificing great radio for you know, for a balloon arch.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Well that's the other thing. You know, like you do
a show, you pack all these people in, you have
all these prizes to give away, and suddenly the show starts,
and usually about six minutes in, I see everybody's face,
and everybody's face is slowly coming to the realization that
they've showed up for a four hour talk show, that
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they are actually going to sit through four hours of
AM radio, and that is always kind of a tough
thing to watch people go through.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Patrius, do you think we're done with conference re alignment?
Is it over?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Will never be done. It will never be done until
there's like, you know, NC double A tournament style and
it's uh, it's one big giant conference. But we've talked
about this for a long time. You know, how long
is the NC double A model sustainable for college football?
You know, the NC Double A has very little to
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do with college football even today, other than the fact
that their clearing house is how people get eligible Division one.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
The other divisions they have more of an influence.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Well, yeah, but what are we talking about. You know,
we're not talking about calous vision. Yeah. So, I mean
college has to get out from under that umbrella because
simply there's too much money being made and the fact
that there's so much money being made is part of
the reason we've had all this stuff happening and on
hyper speed. It feels like for the last fifteen years.
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It's because the NCUBA model is really, really, really showing
its wear and tear. It's very threadbare, and they're letting
everybody do anything they want. Transfer rules nil, all the
stuff that used to define the nc Doubla they're no
longer even enforcing. They're scared of losing their biggest revenue
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cash cow, so they let college football do whatever it wants.
But ultimately, all of this movement is a movement away
from the nc DOUBLEA, who doesn't even run the college
football playoff anymore. That's a separate entity. That's not an
NCUBA trophy. It's not made of wood, and it doesn't
look like a Best Western from nineteen seventy nine. That's
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what the NCUBLEA trophy looks like, you know, the one
that they raise up after the basketball tournament. So I
think that's where we're headed. And until we head there,
you know where it's a much more professional model and
the players are being paid in a more uniform way,
then we're just going to have these weird pretzel logic
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conversations for years and years.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Does it get awkward? Yes, this year four PAC twelve
people involved. From the media standpoint, from the school's interaction standpoint, like,
how does this year play out in your opinion, you know,
in regards to obviously the departures taking place and everybody
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deciding pretty much to leave.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I think it's a great question, LeVar, because I feel
like I feel some of that now representing Fox and
doing some games in the conference. Not everybody is super
happy with us. Kyle Whittingham comes to mind, and some
different situations and conversations that I've had, and maybe they
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think it's our fault because of this or that. Everybody
can decide who to blame in this situation. But I
think the AD or the president at Washington State, or
I think it was the AD was Pat Chun who
said it best that this happened because the conference has
been mismanaged for over a decade and that's where you
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can lay blame. But yeah, I think it's going to
be awkward. You know, you have all this post realignment
forensics going on, like Oregon said they would have never
left if Washington didn't leave, and then you know, wait, no,
it was Washington that left, and Orgon followed, and you
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know Arizona with all the BS, their presidents saying, you know, well,
well we were ready to sign the PAC twelve deal,
and then the next it's such bs, and it's all
such a lie, and it's such revisionist history. Everybody was
going to leave when the second they could, the second
USC and UCLA left the PAC twelve. Once that happened,
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the quicksand started and the whole thing was done, And
anything anybody told you since then is a lie. It's
all posturing and lying and bs. You think you just
join a football conference randomly, like buying a car off
of the car Fox or whatever. No, it takes months
and months and the kicking of the tires and the
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going back and forth and all that. It's a lot
more like like buying a hotel, you know, and it
doesn't happen overnight to like, hey, we're joining the Big twelve. Okay.
You know. The fact that we all had to sit
there and swallow that like that was the timeline of
the way things were happening is insulting. So you know,
there's there's gonna be a lite lot of bitterness, but
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and I think, you know, Oregon State, Washington State, Stanford,
and Cal are the ones that are going to feel
it the most because they're the ones right now that
don't have a home as far as twenty twenty four goes.
And that's awkward. But I wonder how it's going to be.
You know, there's the school of thought LeVar that once
we start playing football, football is football and you go
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game to the one game to the next. But it's
hard to look past that the fact that the conference
is not going to exist after this year, and then
this year on paper looks like one of the most
promising years in conference history, which is modern history, which
is really odd. So it makes for a combustible situation
if the coaches act weird, I'll let you know.
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Well, that's it.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Uh yeah, Bearded Dragons.
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I got the BQ News coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah.
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Oh, we got some good stuff for that, trust me.
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Yeah, we got some priorities here.
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Jesus. All right, Patricks, we'll do it again next week.
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