August 18, 2021 • 38 mins
Jonas and Brady talk Big Noon Kickoff and dive into the Josh Rosen debate. Was Rosen given a real chance in the NFL? The fellas are intrigued by the decision Mark Davis has made in regards to vaccinations in order to attend the new Allegiant Stadium. Another non-award winning edition of Headline Or Lie gets fired up…Jonas attempts to get in the win column. Plus, does the show know which front office person should carry the blame for Josh Rosen’s burnout?
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And we do so with the man himself, the pride
of Dublin, Ohio, and a man who I just got
a little bit excited for. All right, don't don't isolate
that clip. I will explain why I got excited for this.
I'm just I'm just saying because I heard a promo
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for Big newon Kickoff September four, and I realized, oh,
that's just a couple of weeks away, Brady Quinn, because
the college football season is a fast approach in my man,
So it be good to see you guys back on set.
The one and only Brady Quinn. Yeah, no, I'm excited
for it as well. Coming up here in just a
couple of weeks, college football will get kicked off and
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we'll be on the road for the entire month of September.
The first week we're going to two spots, Minneapolis for
Ohio State Minnesota and then and then Madison, Wisconsin for
Penn Stay Wisconsin. Get to see jump around in person,
hopefully the stadium, Hopefully Camp Randle doesn't fall down. Um,
it's it's pretty special to be up there in the
booth calling a game. I've had the chance to do
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that before, and it's literally shaking. So I'm excited for
the season, excited for football. But as as we've kind
of talked about, football is already back. The unfortunate part
is the ugliness of of the NFL is back. And
you've already got some guys being cut being released. We
talked about Tim Tebow, but how about another guy who's
I don't know, arguably had the worst run of luck
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of maybe any NFL player I've seen in a while. Yeah,
Josh Rosen Top ten pick a couple of years by
the Arizona Cardinals. He gets released by the San Francisco
forty Niners, and um, look you can there. Some people
might say, well, you know, why is this even worth
talking about? Well, it's worth talking about when a player's
career is completely derailed it before it even gets started.
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I mean, because he's never really gotten a fair shot.
And I I feel terrible for Josh Rosen because and
and full disclosure, I've told you this before. You get
uncomfortable when I bring this stuff up. But I've told
you this before, even back before I knew you and
you and I started working together and it become friends.
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I always felt like you were one of those guys who,
based on the situation, your career never really went the
way that it that it could have, just because you
were drafted to a really tough spot. And I think
that's true for a lot of quarterback careers around the NFL,
especially back in the day, to our teams with draft
a quarterback and say all right, now, we're gonna take
everything you did well in college, forget about all that
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you've got to fit our scheme, and if feels like
more so nowadays, teams are looking around going in, no, no,
let's work with them as opposed to vice versa, to
try and get the most out of this draft pick.
Josh Rosen felt like he never really got that opportunity.
I mean, he went to Arizona. He was there, you know,
for one season. It was a disaster, and then he
was off to Miami. Then he was off to Tampa Bay,
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then he was off to San Francisco. And now Josh
Rose in the top ten pick. It looks like his
career could be over. He's twenty four years old, and
I don't know if he's ever going to get another shot. Well,
I think he's talented enough potentially too. But that's the
hard thing is what you've already been with a few
teams in a short amount of time, you get this,
for lack of of a better term, a stench about you.
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I remember talking to a former two time head coach
in the NFL about this back before he become a
head coach, and I had the decision either leave Denver
signed back, and at that point in time in my career,
I was heading the year six. I wanted more of
an opportunity to dart and play. If I signed back
with Denver would have been to back up Peyton, and
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as great of an opportunity as that would have been,
and in retrospect, probably the one thing I look back
and kind of regret because I was so impatient. I
hated so much standing on the sidelines holding a clipboard
because I was like, I didn't I didn't sign up,
or I didn't play this game just to stand around
and wait for a chance. I wanted to try to
hold my own uh desting in my hands, or at
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least think like I had a better chance going somewhere
else where I could potentially play that ended up working out.
It's just obviously the season didn't work out for us
in Kansas City that year. But you know the reality
of what you said, Here's the truth. There are a
small fraction of players who are extraordinary talents, in particular
at the quarterback spot, and so most quarterbacks when they
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come into the NFL, they need to have that team
built out around him. The problem is is fans and teams.
I think that you're gonna get a Patrick Holmes, a
Aaron and Aaron Rodgers, and you're gonna find those guys
every single year in the draft. You're not. You're not
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gonna find those guys. Those guys come around once every decade,
once maybe every five years. And then if if you don't,
because here's the here's the truth, if you don't build
it right out around him, if you don't do the
things necessary to invest in them and cultivate what could be.
And that's Josh Allen. Not that anyone needed to give
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up on him after his rookie year, but a lot
of those people who were saying, oh, he's he can't
do this, you can't do I don't know if he's
gonna make it. They were patting themselves in the back
after his rookie year because at times he looked more
like a running back they needed a quarterback. And now
we're those people three years after the fact, where you
had the same o C. They kept building around the
offensive line of their weapons, bringing stuff on Diggs last year.
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You don't hear too many of those those naysayers now
do you. They're eating their words. But that wasn't the
situation that Josh Rosen has been given. He's been with
what three teams, four teams, and and and so the
truth of it is, and this applies to everyone, like
I don't care who you are, what you do, if
your first job or you're trying to enter into a
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career and it's a crappy, tumultuous environment where you don't
have any stability, you don't have anyone there to help
you kind of grow and mature from that. How do
you think you're gonna perform? Like, how do you think
that's gonna go? And so, and that's been the reality
with Josh Rosen. He was draft the tenth overall for
a reason. The kid can sling it. He's got a
very pure throwing motion. But when you have to go
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team to team to team, learning a new offense which
is like a different language, and then trying to execute
that and and and literally seconds, it becomes really really
difficult to be able to do your job well. And
so hopefully Josh Rosen can hang on. Hopefully he can
be at this point at least more of like a
Ryan Fitzpatrick, where he's gonna have to probably fight and
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claw and scratch his way to be able to make
a roster, but at some point he can. And then
when he gets his opportunity, maybe after a year or
two or being a part of that organization, he can
then get his shot and succeed and eventually someone will
look at him as a starter one day. But that's
not the reality is now. Now it's just about him
giving himself a shot to try to keep the dream
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alive and then make someone's practice squad or make someone
else's roster. Look, we talked about it at the time
when he left Miami and he went to Tampa Bay
because I remember, I think he was a backup in
Tampa Bay. We we sort of threw it out there
during our Sunday night show and he said, man, he's
never really going to get a fair shot, right, like
it's never and and you said, probably not like that,
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And that's that's the harsh reality. He was twenty three
years old and probably not just based on the fact
that nobody's ever gonna love you as much as the
team we drafted you loved you right, like you've talked
about it, and not electing not to get surgery when
you should have because you knew that you didn't have
the equity with those other organizations and the ability to
so you had to deal with a foot injury. Your
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foot was completely mangled, and you actually just got it
surgery done what a few months ago, just because of
the fact that you realize you weren't you weren't not
in a position to do so. I think it was
like it was like a couple of years ago now,
But I do love the fact that that that time
frame was short. And like the other day you said
a year ago, Now you said a few months ago ago.
Like I just I just got out of the operating room.
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So last break, Bradiot surgery on his foot. I don't
know if anybody knew that or not. So while we
were at break, Bradiot surgery on his foot. Uh no.
And and that you bring up a great point just
kind of about the team that drafts you and really
their adversaries for you, right like, like they're gonna the
advocate for you when you're not in the room or
when you're not at practice and someone needs to be
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there on your behalf. Those the guys who are gonna
be cheering you on to the organization or the decision makers.
And he doesn't have that anymore. And here's here's the
truth of it though, Okay, Like if you want me
to be real right now, this is the truth of it.
It's really because most guys within organizations don't want to
look bad. Like if someone signs Josh Rosen now and
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they go into if he goes into a game and
he plays poorly, how's that general manager gonna be looked at?
How's the guy in the scouting department who was pounding
the table to get Josh Rosen in there? And if
things don't work out, how's that gonna look. They're scared
of doing something that may make them look bad, especially
once they get in the NFL. And if things don't
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work out now, granted, like has he changed as far
as the talent that you saw u c l A
And the talent that you that you saw maybe at
times throughout his time in the NFL. It's just the
perception of everyone in the outside where if you sign him, well,
has it worked out here? Hasn't worked out there? And
and that's that's the truth of it all. Like, it's
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not it's not about talent. Josh Rose is smart, He's
got talent. It's not about that. It's now that teams
they don't have the courage to take the risk on
a guy that has talent, has smarts, has the ability,
because if it doesn't work out, they look bad, and
there's so much of that that goes on in the NFL.
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They would rather turn to the next hot thing, or
a mid round pick or something in next year's draft
that may not be as talented, doesn't have any NFL experience,
may not be as smart when it comes to the
xs and ohs, but they they'd rather do that instead
than signing Josh Rose on the practice squad or to
a league minimum contract, because if it doesn't work out,
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they're gonna look bad. But no one's gonna say anything
if it's a mid late round pick or some other
guy who who maybe hasn't even played yet, just because
that's the perception. That's how that's how, that's how it works.
And again it kind of works in society like that,
Like we make decisions all the time when we were
really worried about what other people think instead of like
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why we're making that decision and what our own individual
choices are. Like we I think now more than ever,
especially with social media, we've come to factor that in
and and whether that's right, wrong, or you're different about it,
that's just the truth with Josh Rosen. Yeah, and there's
also another element of of this story in the NFL
and and sort of how somebody is getting just a
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one off scenario is actually gonna impact somebody's entire career
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Sports Radio, before we get into this story about a
player in the NFL that got completely screwed over by circumstance. Um,
Raiders made a bull move. Huh, but a little Raiders decided,
all right, you know what, no, no vaccine, you ain't
coming to our games. So there is that. Uh so yeah,
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here and away we go proof of proof of vaccinations
if you want to go to a Raider game, which
is quite surprising for a couple of reasons. So yeah, look,
there's there's a lot of different ways you could chop
this one up, all right. Uh and and this is
like where the world of politics starts to collide with sports.
And it's such a it's such a germ free city,
you know, so it's not surprised a college campus. Not
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everything stays in Vegas that happens in Vegas. You know,
some of that, some of that will come home. Um,
touch all the slot machines you want, But don't come
in our stadium. Yeah, you know those pool parties all right,
yeah rehab what Republic? Yeah? Uh you know the win
on Core. They've got some fun pool parties. Be careful
about the water, you know, just a lot of chlorine
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in those things. Um, you know, in all serious this
like for an owner last year who tried to claim
he wasn't going to go to any games at Allegiance
Stadium because the fans could now he's Yeah, It just
it seems kind of odd, like you you figure most
owners would be like chopping at the bit to let
them in. I mean the NBA during the NBA Finals,
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which it's not like anything's really changed with covid um.
You know, just look at Milwaukee for example, Like it
was absolute pandemonium and that you know, they weren't requiring
anyone to be vaccinated to answer now you have to
wear masks and all that. But I just I think
it's an interesting move. I wonder how many other stadiums
will follow a suit and no matter which side of
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the fence you're on, because it seems like most people
nowadays gonna pick a side, right, You're gonna you either,
you gonna be Baxtery don't have to be Baxter. Whatever
the case. Maybe I don't care what your personal preference is.
I don't, but he does of the right. You know,
as a private business owner, he technically has the right
to be able to determine if you want to come
in and you know, pay for the goods and services
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and the product that is the Las Vegas writers. Like,
he's got the right to do it. Now whether or
not other owners will fall suit in the NFL or
people will not show up for that reason, you know,
we'll off to wait and see. Um. And then then
there's another issue of just you know, making that decision
in general. Um, you know how that's going to impact
their bottom line their business operations because you know, Mark
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Davis is the type of owner where he didn't make
his money elsewhere. And then by the team, right he
inherited from his dad. That's that's their cash cow. Like,
that's the thing that brings in the most revenue. So
I do wonder if, if not if other teams don't
fall suit in the NFL, Like, if other owners don't
follow Mark Davis's lead here, will he reverse course? I'd
be like, yeah, I forget about what I said back
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then in August, forget about all that. Yeah, well, I
know that the Saints have been most vocal about it.
Um and and I think the Raiders, I think Mark
Davis even said that they've given fans an opportunity to
where they're gonna refront refund ticket season olders if they
don't get vaccinated, or they can push it off to
next year, like they've given them options in Las Vegas
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to where the Saints have come out, um, and they've
said that they're that refunds and opt outs for season
ticket holders are not not part of the plan. For one, Like,
if you are season ticket holder and you decide you
don't want to get vaccinated, you're not getting a refund. Um.
I don't know how that's legal. I don't know how
that's how that's actually gonna play out. Um. You know,
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I don't know that when they got these season ticket holders,
if there's anything in writing or they applied for their
season tickets, if there's anything in writing that would indicate so.
But the Saints have taken a really hard, hard approach
to it. The Raiders have at least given uh fans
an opportunity to where you can push the tickets off
for next year. What's interesting about this is was was
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talking to Albert Breer a few weeks ago and sort
of the question I remember asking him, and I remember
it was we were on the air together, but I
remember asking him, with teams, do you think of all
the teams that lost money last year, which teams felt
it the worst? And he said three teams, the Raiders,
the Chargers, and the Rams, because those are three teams
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who just opened up a new stadium. You know this,
You open up a new business like you're expecting you're
gonna take a loss early on, but you're also expecting
you're gonna have a crowd. You're gonna have customers in
your business, so at least it's gonna help make up
for part of the loss and you start to grow
and trying to get back to at least even or
at least that's a hope. Well, the Raiders didn't have fans,
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The Chargers and Rams didn't have fans, and they're playing
in the same stadium. So of all the teams that
I would expect that would put a true value on.
We need fans back in town here, and we need
fans at these games. I thought the Raiders would be
the last team to to put this into motion that
they would recognize. Listen, it's a business. We're gonna trust
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our protocols in our safety. And if they've got to
wear masks, they've got to wear masks. But we're not
gonna make it that much more difficult for fans to
go to games. And yet here they are no proof
of vaccination. You're not getting in a little a little strange. Yeah,
and then in regards to LA, I did hear Gavin
Newsome was trying to make sure all patrons that is
a good point. So yeah, I'm not sure how they're
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gonna fit in the seats now. I don't know if
you know this not he actually has one, but it's
been customized to where you are able to drink wine
inside the space suit. So I don't know if you
saw that or not, but you are. He's got one
of those like hard hat helmets with like wine bottles
on each side of his head coming down, little one
of those little yeah, with a little less straw you
put you put beers on both sides, or wine on
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both sides, and you drink out of that. Yeah, it's good.
It's always a classy look appreciate his contributions. I do
wonder how much of a pushback they'll be, you know,
I really do. And and it's only because it's it's
a personal issue for a lot of people, you know.
And and regardless again of those who are vacts, and
we talked about science or whatever you want to talk
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about to support your case of being vaccinated, it's not
even that. Like some people that I know that aren't vaccinated,
and then people that are, they just don't want to
share the private information with you, like, like they don't
feel that it's necessary to talk about whether they did
or didn't. And this is both sides of it. And
and that's where I kind of sit where I'm like,
we were allowing people to kind of infringe upon that,
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you know, the ability to say that. But but again
it's his right to do so. And if if you look,
if you're not vaccinated, you're a Ridgis fan, you want
to go to a game, sorry, man, you're gonna have
to go to away game. Um that that's just the
reality of it. You're gonna have to set up your
trip to go somewhere else. And and until that either
changes or until you change your mind. So Mark Davis says,
every right, at least how to do that. To your
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point though about the Saints, I will be curious to
see if there's a lawsuit, because that's when we're like,
come on, man, like some of these season ticket holders
and all this, like they might not have been aware
of it, or they might not have, you know, kind
of fully understood what was going on when they made
that deposit or when it rolled over for the next year.
You kind of subject yourself to some pushback there from
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your fan base. And and by the way, in a
year where not only one do the Saints need at
home field advantage more than ever before given that Drew
Brees isn't there, but it's a huge it is a
huge advantage to you, you know, playing against the defending
Super Bowl champs in your own division, so you'd figured
you'd want to get as many rowdy people there as possible. Um,
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I'll be I'll be curious to see how that one poison. Yeah,
I was gonna say that. You know, maybe that's an
indication as to how confident they feel about their quarterback
situation there. Like you know what, maybe it's not a
bad idea to not have people here, you know, like,
maybe maybe that's the the approach. We can kind of
chase people away for you see it. Yeah, that is
a good point. Yeah, maybe that's maybe that's the strategy
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and the approach there. Um, you know, but again, um,
you know, Marty, Marty Grove has always been a real clean,
clean place, always a real sanitary and all that. So
it makes all the sense in the world. All right,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox's I'll kick the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio. So I want to make sure that I
do pay off the t So coming up fifteen minutes
from now, there is a really tough or unique situations
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in the NFL that I think of factored in to
a player getting screwed over. So I want to throw
my theories at Brady Quinn and have him laugh at
me on the air. So that'll be a good exercise
for everybody involved that coming up here fifteen minutes from
now on FS are, Um, are you ready to play
this game or what? Man? Yeah? Man, I've been waiting
for this all morning. All right, here we go. It
is time for this turn on loof the headline or
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is it a lie? Let's go to the new steps. Look,
now here's Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn and away we
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Jonas Knox, and this is where we try and see
who wants to team up with us, who's got the guts?
Uh the quote unquote you know, I don't want to
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say that on the air. You never know who you're
gonna offend, but you know the point we're gonna see
other or not. You've got the courage to want to
be a part of the fastest growing game show and
all of sports talk radio. And we will get things
started here in Ohio where Corey is listening here on
Fox Sports Radio. Corey, what's happening? Hey, how you guys
doing this morning? We're we're hanging out, man, Corey. What's
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going on? And you're driving a work or what? Well?
I just pulled in. I'm a teacher in Mansfield, Ohio.
So I'm just getting my you know, las mindset right,
getting a couple of mid last minute of outcake in. Alright,
this is this your first day of school. Uh, teacher
started yesterday, student come in on Tuesday, Okay, okay, alright,
so so you gotta get your mind, right, all right,
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so you can team up with Brady Quinn and win
this game where you could team up with and lose
with me, and and I would recommend you probably team
up with Brady Quinn because I don't know that you
want to lose. I'm trying a different approach. I will
take that advice that sounds like friendly advice. Let's go ahead,
and I will go with Brady. All right, So there
it is. Yeah, look at you very good. It's a
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little while, guys. I tried a little reverse psychology there.
I tried to see whether or not, you know, him
being a teacher, he was going to to try and
work me through my struggles mentally, but instead he just
bailed on me and said I'm gonna team up with
Brady Quinn and win the game. So that that backfire
that he goes that shows that it is the teaching preseason,
because I totally miss that. That's all right, Listen, it happens. Listen,
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it's everybody's preseason, apparently like it. It happens, no problem,
no harm, no foul. Let's go to Indiana where Kyle
is listening here on Fox Sports Radio. Kyle, what's happening?
What's going on, gentlemen? How are we doing this morning?
We're just saying out, man, are you are you a
key teaming up with me? Uh? You know what if
that's that's the cards, I'm deal, let's make it happen.
What the f man like I have a little bit
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like your reputation proceeds, you know? All right? It's fair enough,
all right. So here's how it works for people that
are listening. We've got ourselves some headlines here. It's either
an actual headline or to lie. I'm gonna read mind
a Brady's partner, he's going to read his to mind.
If we're ending up tied at the end of this list,
we go to a tiebreaker overtime question. So let's go
ahead and let's get things started here. And I will
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start off with Brady Quinn's partner, Corey in Ohio. So Corey,
here we go. Headline or lie? A man nicknamed the
meat Wagon cost his team a beer pong tournament this
past weekend in Ohio. Crazy enough to be true? What
about a headline? Did a headline? I think at the
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headline there it is very good. Yeah, he's not wrong,
he's not wrong. I'd like to get. I would like
to get his side of the story. If he remembers it,
I would I would love to get his side of
the story. He might not remember. It was pretty banged up. Yeah, alright,
here we go. Kyle Headline or Lie Hope Solo accused
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his teammate Megan Rappino of bowling teammates into kneeling. Oh
have mine, no doubt? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, it's it's
it's it's the sober aspect of this game that's really
been mind boggling to be a part of. During the weekend.
These guys are Yeah, they're either sober just really good.
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Maybe it's I don't know. All right, here we go.
Corey Brady, Quinn's partner, all tied up in Ohio, Corey,
Here we go Headline or Live. Following the release of
Tim Tebow on Tuesday, a lightning bolt struck Urban Meyer's
office and a flash flood canceled practice. I'm gonna say, lie,
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oh man, it's good. Are you sure give us some time?
Like it's like a page out of revelation. It's like
dead fish, you know, all of a sudden pop up
on the you know, the field. It's a yeah, revelations, Brad,
I'm just saying every revelations in the Bible. It's very Yeah,
it's it's yeah, especially when it when I'm down, you know,
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feeling really bad about myself. If I like to read
at the end of the world that that's always fun. Here, Kyle,
let's go a headline or lie, California man suffers groin
injury after forgetting to install a seat on his rogue
Echo bike. Uh that is a headline? Oh, come on,
(26:21):
come on? Can you not tell that this is clearly
a direct attack on me. It's like when when he
starts off like that, You've got Brady's got a certain cadence,
He's got a certain hell to where I know where
he's going with the football right there? All right, So
it is a too one lead for Brady Quinn and Corey.
You know this his headliner Lie Here. On Fox Sports Radio,
(26:42):
Jonas knocks Brady quim with you here all right, Here
we go a headliner lie to Corey. Brady's partner in
Ohio asked what advice he'd give rookie quarterback Justin Fields.
Bill's quarterback Mitch Rabinsky said, quote, listen to everybody except
Matt Naggy. I'm gonna say live Yeah, I mean, that
(27:06):
was a tough one. I was debating that line. There's
some bad blood the hey man, Mitch is back this weekend.
He's getting revenge. I'm hammering the bills. I'm hammering the bills.
Are there prop bets on the stats in that game?
All over? That we should make some up is what
we should do, Like like we should bring back the
profet monster. That's one of my very popular segments on
the weekend overnights during the NFL season, the prop that
(27:28):
monster and I'll make up prop bets. We need to
bring that back then? Alright, it worked so good it
was buried on weekend overnight, so of course, why wouldn't
we bring it back. Hey, sometimes just need a different audience,
all right, Kyle headline or lie as murders surge, Democrats
find a new message fund the police. Uh god, I
(27:51):
can't imagine them doing that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I mean,
it has to be a lie. My god, this is
ridiculous confident answer. It really mean? That doesn't tell you
(28:12):
like people will say anything nowadays, you know it is,
I don't know. Listen, Uh, we'll seeing about a month.
All right, here we go a headline or lie here
on Fox Sports Radio. And now if I'm not mistaken,
so you've got a three one lead. If you get
this correct, it's over, of course. Yeah, a, Corey, here's
(28:33):
the here's the situation. If you get this correct, the
game is over. If not, you open up the door
and we still have an opportunity to try and catch
up to you and Brady. So here we go headline
or lie to win it all. A man in New
York brought home an escort who wound up stealing a
thirteen thousand dollar rollux and a credit card. Recently headline
(28:55):
Jesus talking about cod and that was just really believable. Well, Corey,
you're all done all about confidence. Also, I told I listen,
I tried to tell you, man, I am terrible at
this game. There's not a game that I can win
on this show. I'm tired of it. I hate this
game and I'm starting to hate this show because of it.
So congratulations to Corey Kyle. We appreciate a man. I
(29:17):
have a good day. You're a good sport. It's not
your fault. You've got a bad teammate and me that's all.
I give you so much more material that you feel
it's necessary to then use it during the show. You
only provide me just just a little bit, like, for example,
a photo of a Rogue Echo bike in your house
and you're so excited about but again, there was no
(29:37):
seat installed. So I kind of feel like maybe there's
an issue where if you sit down that might not
feel too good. By the way Owen two versus that bike.
I just want to let you know it's gonna take
a little while. Uh. You know, you're like you think,
you know, you're thinking a jog down around the block,
you know, you know, yeah, I've in shape, you know,
(29:58):
jog around the my cardio is up, you know, my
gas take is there, and then you hop on one
of those things. Uh, And it's just like like a
dog who's been in two hundred degree heat all day.
Just embarrassing. But nonetheless that's what we're at. Well, you
don't have your dogs, so I don't. I hate to
bring that up. He sometimes use that comparison, and I
have to remind you don't have your dog anymore. Yeah,
(30:18):
there's a good point. Brady likes to remind me on
a weekly basis that my dog is dead. Um, so
if you are a member of Peter, first off, my
boxer died more recently than yours, so stop trying to
bring that up. I'm just I'm trying to remind you
of it, since you like to remind people your dog's dead. Yeah,
but I claimed it first, so you can't. You can't
claim your dog dies for like ten years. That uh no,
(30:42):
give or take. Listen, like look, probably a little bit
less intent. But I claimed it first, and because he
died first, I have every right to talk about him.
You don't get to talk about your dog passing. It's
humped everyone. Everyone's feel bad for you. Yeah, that's well's
I don't even know what that day is anymore, you know,
you know what they say average all right, Brady Quinn
Jonas knocks it's kicked. The coverage here on fs are.
(31:05):
By the way, that story about the guy who had
a thirteen thousand dollar rolex and a credit card stolen,
I swear to god, I think that's a Rick Flair story.
Rick Flair tells a great story how he went out
partying back in the day and somebody from the front
desk called up to his room because they saw a
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woman he went home with walking out of the hotel
wearing one of his robes that he wore the ring
like literally like like like stole everything while he was
passed out drunk and was trying to walk out with
one of the robes. He wore the ring because he
had it in his hotel room. So that's classic story,
classic Ric Flair story passed out. His book is phenomenal.
(31:52):
Just like he talked about a quick Rick Flair story.
He talked about how he, like the stock market took
a hit and he had all his money tied up
in stocks because there was some issue ever get what
it was, but he was watching, he said. He remembers
watching on television losing just hundreds of thousands of dollars
and sitting there and just deciding there was nothing left
(32:14):
to do but to drink as much red wine as
they possibly had inside the hotel, and he just bottle
for bottle, just watching all his finances go out the window.
But it's a hell of a life that man lived,
or has lived. I'm not saying it doesn't you know
what I mean. No, I didn't, I know, I didn't,
I did not know. I'm just saying like you know
his career, you know, it's just you know, it doesn't
(32:35):
live that way anymore. Allegedly, All right, Brady Quinn, Jonas
knocks It's OutKick the Coverage here Fox Sports Radio coming
up next, though, there are two circumstances that completely screwed
over one player. I'm gonna throw my theory at Brady Quinn.
He's gonna throw it back in my face, and we're
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So that'll be yours coming up here in about ten
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minutes from now on fs ARE. UM, So I want
to throw this at you, Just throw this little theory
at you. UM. Josh Rosen his career was ruined because
of Steve Come of the Arizona Cardinals. The GM of
the Arizona Cardinals. Curious, keep going, keep going? If Kyler
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Murray wasn't the quarterback number one overall in the next draft.
Is Cliff Kingsbury the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Well,
I mean technically Cliff Kingsbury got hired first, So I
understand what you're saying that there was there was the
(34:54):
thought that they hired Cliff because they knew they were
gonna take Kyler and they thought they would be the
perfect air for one another. Um. But but Kingsbury, you
know he was He's already there. Okay, but I don't know.
I mean, but he was already there. But if Kyler
Murray wasn't the quarterback who was going to go number
(35:14):
one overall? Was Kingsbury the guy who was going to
get the job. Based on what happened at Texas Tech,
I think he was gonna be offensive coordinator of the
of the USC Trojans. I believe that if Kyler Murray
is not the quarterback, that Cliff Kingsbury doesn't get the job,
which makes me feel like, which makes me think that
maybe Arizona doesn't go in the direction they go when
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it comes to Kyler Murray, and maybe they do give
Steve Wilkes, and they do give Josh Rosen another opportunity
at a year too. I think Steve kin was desperate
to try and get some sort of juice within the organization,
some sort of excitement, and he jumped at the opportunity
to pair those two guys up. And thus, once he
walked away from Josh Rosen, Josh Rosen was screwed. Ever say,
(36:00):
because it was going to be an uphill battle. He
went to Miami. That was a disaster. They put him in.
Then they benched him, as we've seen Brian Flores do
from time to time, and I think he's been scrambling
ever since to try and get his career on track. Okay,
I'm not going to shoot down this theory, but I
will ask you this then. Alright, alright, I will ask
you this. I don't have to answer it, but you
can gonna ask it. If it makes me look bad,
(36:23):
I'm not gonna answer it. Um, I'm half tempted to
ask you the question I really want to ask you
ask me please. Well, Okay, so I flew back with
my kids yesterday and I was thinking of myself, uh,
flying back with three kids all below the age of five,
or crapping your pants on the first team walking eighteen holes?
Which would you rather do? Because I know my answer
(36:44):
to that, flying but with kids, no, no, would. I
would have been the ladder. Okay, That's that's how difficult
that whole scenario is. But I digress. Who wants to
walk around with swamp ass for eighteen holes? It's a
lot better than sitting on a lane flight for two
and a half hours. I've been screaming kids. Listen, I've
been on bad flight, so I'll wear it. I'm not
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wearing you know that in my pants for eighteen holes.
Here's the difference then, between you and me. If if
you're flying with three little kids on a plane, you're
inconveniencing everyone out around you. I hate that. I hate
inconveniencing other people. It's honestly why, Like I try to
drive in that manner where I'm on it man, when
I drive, I drive fast and get out of everyone's
way all that. If i'm if I'm crapping my pants
(37:28):
on the first tea box and walk anything, it's really
only impacting me. So you think it's only impacting you,
but it changes your decision making. How many times have
you been in a rush to use the bathroom and
you forget all manners? Like you don't like like, like
you cut people off, you know you you run through
a red light like Coan come on, like you think
it's only you, but it's not. Yeah, I was gonna
(37:49):
ask you something about Steve Common. If this is a
do or die year, then I don't believe you enough
time then? So, oh, did you think this is an
NFL show? That's funny by you, Brady Quinn. No, why
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And we do so with the man himself, the pride
of Dublin, Ohio, and a man who I just got
a little bit excited for. All right, don't don't isolate
that clip. I will explain why I got excited for this.
I'm just I'm just saying because I heard a promo
(00:48):
for Big newon Kickoff September four, and I realized, oh,
that's just a couple of weeks away, Brady Quinn, because
the college football season is a fast approach in my man,
So it be good to see you guys back on set.
The one and only Brady Quinn. Yeah, no, I'm excited
for it as well. Coming up here in just a
couple of weeks, college football will get kicked off and
(01:10):
we'll be on the road for the entire month of September.
The first week we're going to two spots, Minneapolis for
Ohio State Minnesota and then and then Madison, Wisconsin for
Penn Stay Wisconsin. Get to see jump around in person,
hopefully the stadium, Hopefully Camp Randle doesn't fall down. Um,
it's it's pretty special to be up there in the
booth calling a game. I've had the chance to do
(01:32):
that before, and it's literally shaking. So I'm excited for
the season, excited for football. But as as we've kind
of talked about, football is already back. The unfortunate part
is the ugliness of of the NFL is back. And
you've already got some guys being cut being released. We
talked about Tim Tebow, but how about another guy who's
I don't know, arguably had the worst run of luck
(01:54):
of maybe any NFL player I've seen in a while. Yeah,
Josh Rosen Top ten pick a couple of years by
the Arizona Cardinals. He gets released by the San Francisco
forty Niners, and um, look you can there. Some people
might say, well, you know, why is this even worth
talking about? Well, it's worth talking about when a player's
career is completely derailed it before it even gets started.
(02:16):
I mean, because he's never really gotten a fair shot.
And I I feel terrible for Josh Rosen because and
and full disclosure, I've told you this before. You get
uncomfortable when I bring this stuff up. But I've told
you this before, even back before I knew you and
you and I started working together and it become friends.
(02:36):
I always felt like you were one of those guys who,
based on the situation, your career never really went the
way that it that it could have, just because you
were drafted to a really tough spot. And I think
that's true for a lot of quarterback careers around the NFL,
especially back in the day, to our teams with draft
a quarterback and say all right, now, we're gonna take
everything you did well in college, forget about all that
(02:58):
you've got to fit our scheme, and if feels like
more so nowadays, teams are looking around going in, no, no,
let's work with them as opposed to vice versa, to
try and get the most out of this draft pick.
Josh Rosen felt like he never really got that opportunity.
I mean, he went to Arizona. He was there, you know,
for one season. It was a disaster, and then he
was off to Miami. Then he was off to Tampa Bay,
(03:20):
then he was off to San Francisco. And now Josh
Rose in the top ten pick. It looks like his
career could be over. He's twenty four years old, and
I don't know if he's ever going to get another shot. Well,
I think he's talented enough potentially too. But that's the
hard thing is what you've already been with a few
teams in a short amount of time, you get this,
for lack of of a better term, a stench about you.
(03:42):
I remember talking to a former two time head coach
in the NFL about this back before he become a
head coach, and I had the decision either leave Denver
signed back, and at that point in time in my career,
I was heading the year six. I wanted more of
an opportunity to dart and play. If I signed back
with Denver would have been to back up Peyton, and
(04:04):
as great of an opportunity as that would have been,
and in retrospect, probably the one thing I look back
and kind of regret because I was so impatient. I
hated so much standing on the sidelines holding a clipboard
because I was like, I didn't I didn't sign up,
or I didn't play this game just to stand around
and wait for a chance. I wanted to try to
hold my own uh desting in my hands, or at
(04:25):
least think like I had a better chance going somewhere
else where I could potentially play that ended up working out.
It's just obviously the season didn't work out for us
in Kansas City that year. But you know the reality
of what you said, Here's the truth. There are a
small fraction of players who are extraordinary talents, in particular
at the quarterback spot, and so most quarterbacks when they
(04:49):
come into the NFL, they need to have that team
built out around him. The problem is is fans and teams.
I think that you're gonna get a Patrick Holmes, a
Aaron and Aaron Rodgers, and you're gonna find those guys
every single year in the draft. You're not. You're not
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gonna find those guys. Those guys come around once every decade,
once maybe every five years. And then if if you don't,
because here's the here's the truth, if you don't build
it right out around him, if you don't do the
things necessary to invest in them and cultivate what could be.
And that's Josh Allen. Not that anyone needed to give
(05:33):
up on him after his rookie year, but a lot
of those people who were saying, oh, he's he can't
do this, you can't do I don't know if he's
gonna make it. They were patting themselves in the back
after his rookie year because at times he looked more
like a running back they needed a quarterback. And now
we're those people three years after the fact, where you
had the same o C. They kept building around the
offensive line of their weapons, bringing stuff on Diggs last year.
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You don't hear too many of those those naysayers now
do you. They're eating their words. But that wasn't the
situation that Josh Rosen has been given. He's been with
what three teams, four teams, and and and so the
truth of it is, and this applies to everyone, like
I don't care who you are, what you do, if
your first job or you're trying to enter into a
(06:16):
career and it's a crappy, tumultuous environment where you don't
have any stability, you don't have anyone there to help
you kind of grow and mature from that. How do
you think you're gonna perform? Like, how do you think
that's gonna go? And so, and that's been the reality
with Josh Rosen. He was draft the tenth overall for
a reason. The kid can sling it. He's got a
very pure throwing motion. But when you have to go
(06:38):
team to team to team, learning a new offense which
is like a different language, and then trying to execute
that and and and literally seconds, it becomes really really
difficult to be able to do your job well. And
so hopefully Josh Rosen can hang on. Hopefully he can
be at this point at least more of like a
Ryan Fitzpatrick, where he's gonna have to probably fight and
(07:02):
claw and scratch his way to be able to make
a roster, but at some point he can. And then
when he gets his opportunity, maybe after a year or
two or being a part of that organization, he can
then get his shot and succeed and eventually someone will
look at him as a starter one day. But that's
not the reality is now. Now it's just about him
giving himself a shot to try to keep the dream
(07:24):
alive and then make someone's practice squad or make someone
else's roster. Look, we talked about it at the time
when he left Miami and he went to Tampa Bay
because I remember, I think he was a backup in
Tampa Bay. We we sort of threw it out there
during our Sunday night show and he said, man, he's
never really going to get a fair shot, right, like
it's never and and you said, probably not like that,
(07:44):
And that's that's the harsh reality. He was twenty three
years old and probably not just based on the fact
that nobody's ever gonna love you as much as the
team we drafted you loved you right, like you've talked
about it, and not electing not to get surgery when
you should have because you knew that you didn't have
the equity with those other organizations and the ability to
so you had to deal with a foot injury. Your
(08:05):
foot was completely mangled, and you actually just got it
surgery done what a few months ago, just because of
the fact that you realize you weren't you weren't not
in a position to do so. I think it was
like it was like a couple of years ago now,
But I do love the fact that that that time
frame was short. And like the other day you said
a year ago, Now you said a few months ago ago.
Like I just I just got out of the operating room.
(08:26):
So last break, Bradiot surgery on his foot. I don't
know if anybody knew that or not. So while we
were at break, Bradiot surgery on his foot. Uh no.
And and that you bring up a great point just
kind of about the team that drafts you and really
their adversaries for you, right like, like they're gonna the
advocate for you when you're not in the room or
when you're not at practice and someone needs to be
(08:48):
there on your behalf. Those the guys who are gonna
be cheering you on to the organization or the decision makers.
And he doesn't have that anymore. And here's here's the
truth of it though, Okay, Like if you want me
to be real right now, this is the truth of it.
It's really because most guys within organizations don't want to
look bad. Like if someone signs Josh Rosen now and
(09:12):
they go into if he goes into a game and
he plays poorly, how's that general manager gonna be looked at?
How's the guy in the scouting department who was pounding
the table to get Josh Rosen in there? And if
things don't work out, how's that gonna look. They're scared
of doing something that may make them look bad, especially
once they get in the NFL. And if things don't
(09:33):
work out now, granted, like has he changed as far
as the talent that you saw u c l A
And the talent that you that you saw maybe at
times throughout his time in the NFL. It's just the
perception of everyone in the outside where if you sign him, well,
has it worked out here? Hasn't worked out there? And
and that's that's the truth of it all. Like, it's
(09:53):
not it's not about talent. Josh Rose is smart, He's
got talent. It's not about that. It's now that teams
they don't have the courage to take the risk on
a guy that has talent, has smarts, has the ability,
because if it doesn't work out, they look bad, and
there's so much of that that goes on in the NFL.
(10:14):
They would rather turn to the next hot thing, or
a mid round pick or something in next year's draft
that may not be as talented, doesn't have any NFL experience,
may not be as smart when it comes to the
xs and ohs, but they they'd rather do that instead
than signing Josh Rose on the practice squad or to
a league minimum contract, because if it doesn't work out,
(10:37):
they're gonna look bad. But no one's gonna say anything
if it's a mid late round pick or some other
guy who who maybe hasn't even played yet, just because
that's the perception. That's how that's how, that's how it works.
And again it kind of works in society like that,
Like we make decisions all the time when we were
really worried about what other people think instead of like
(10:57):
why we're making that decision and what our own individual
choices are. Like we I think now more than ever,
especially with social media, we've come to factor that in
and and whether that's right, wrong, or you're different about it,
that's just the truth with Josh Rosen. Yeah, and there's
also another element of of this story in the NFL
and and sort of how somebody is getting just a
(11:19):
one off scenario is actually gonna impact somebody's entire career
that we're gonna get to coming up next here on
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I think it was you that dubbed it. That is
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(12:03):
a lot, but I mean that's how successful it's been.
It's been catching on like fire or like an STD
running through a college campus, and that is. It's a
good point. It's also a game I can't seem to
win that that is also, uh, you should feel good
about today that I don't feel good about mine. Yeah,
I don't feel good about my headlines or Lies. Yeah.
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up here in about ten minutes from now on Fox
Sports Radio, before we get into this story about a
player in the NFL that got completely screwed over by circumstance. Um,
Raiders made a bull move. Huh, but a little Raiders decided,
all right, you know what, no, no vaccine, you ain't
coming to our games. So there is that. Uh so yeah,
(13:09):
here and away we go proof of proof of vaccinations
if you want to go to a Raider game, which
is quite surprising for a couple of reasons. So yeah, look,
there's there's a lot of different ways you could chop
this one up, all right. Uh and and this is
like where the world of politics starts to collide with sports.
And it's such a it's such a germ free city,
you know, so it's not surprised a college campus. Not
(13:34):
everything stays in Vegas that happens in Vegas. You know,
some of that, some of that will come home. Um,
touch all the slot machines you want, But don't come
in our stadium. Yeah, you know those pool parties all right,
yeah rehab what Republic? Yeah? Uh you know the win
on Core. They've got some fun pool parties. Be careful
about the water, you know, just a lot of chlorine
(13:57):
in those things. Um, you know, in all serious this
like for an owner last year who tried to claim
he wasn't going to go to any games at Allegiance
Stadium because the fans could now he's Yeah, It just
it seems kind of odd, like you you figure most
owners would be like chopping at the bit to let
them in. I mean the NBA during the NBA Finals,
(14:18):
which it's not like anything's really changed with covid um.
You know, just look at Milwaukee for example, Like it
was absolute pandemonium and that you know, they weren't requiring
anyone to be vaccinated to answer now you have to
wear masks and all that. But I just I think
it's an interesting move. I wonder how many other stadiums
will follow a suit and no matter which side of
(14:40):
the fence you're on, because it seems like most people
nowadays gonna pick a side, right, You're gonna you either,
you gonna be Baxtery don't have to be Baxter. Whatever
the case. Maybe I don't care what your personal preference is.
I don't, but he does of the right. You know,
as a private business owner, he technically has the right
to be able to determine if you want to come
in and you know, pay for the goods and services
(15:03):
and the product that is the Las Vegas writers. Like,
he's got the right to do it. Now whether or
not other owners will fall suit in the NFL or
people will not show up for that reason, you know,
we'll off to wait and see. Um. And then then
there's another issue of just you know, making that decision
in general. Um, you know how that's going to impact
their bottom line their business operations because you know, Mark
(15:26):
Davis is the type of owner where he didn't make
his money elsewhere. And then by the team, right he
inherited from his dad. That's that's their cash cow. Like,
that's the thing that brings in the most revenue. So
I do wonder if, if not if other teams don't
fall suit in the NFL, Like, if other owners don't
follow Mark Davis's lead here, will he reverse course? I'd
be like, yeah, I forget about what I said back
(15:48):
then in August, forget about all that. Yeah, well, I
know that the Saints have been most vocal about it.
Um and and I think the Raiders, I think Mark
Davis even said that they've given fans an opportunity to
where they're gonna refront refund ticket season olders if they
don't get vaccinated, or they can push it off to
next year, like they've given them options in Las Vegas
(16:08):
to where the Saints have come out, um, and they've
said that they're that refunds and opt outs for season
ticket holders are not not part of the plan. For one, Like,
if you are season ticket holder and you decide you
don't want to get vaccinated, you're not getting a refund. Um.
I don't know how that's legal. I don't know how
that's how that's actually gonna play out. Um. You know,
(16:29):
I don't know that when they got these season ticket holders,
if there's anything in writing or they applied for their
season tickets, if there's anything in writing that would indicate so.
But the Saints have taken a really hard, hard approach
to it. The Raiders have at least given uh fans
an opportunity to where you can push the tickets off
for next year. What's interesting about this is was was
(16:50):
talking to Albert Breer a few weeks ago and sort
of the question I remember asking him, and I remember
it was we were on the air together, but I
remember asking him, with teams, do you think of all
the teams that lost money last year, which teams felt
it the worst? And he said three teams, the Raiders,
the Chargers, and the Rams, because those are three teams
(17:10):
who just opened up a new stadium. You know this,
You open up a new business like you're expecting you're
gonna take a loss early on, but you're also expecting
you're gonna have a crowd. You're gonna have customers in
your business, so at least it's gonna help make up
for part of the loss and you start to grow
and trying to get back to at least even or
at least that's a hope. Well, the Raiders didn't have fans,
(17:33):
The Chargers and Rams didn't have fans, and they're playing
in the same stadium. So of all the teams that
I would expect that would put a true value on.
We need fans back in town here, and we need
fans at these games. I thought the Raiders would be
the last team to to put this into motion that
they would recognize. Listen, it's a business. We're gonna trust
(17:55):
our protocols in our safety. And if they've got to
wear masks, they've got to wear masks. But we're not
gonna make it that much more difficult for fans to
go to games. And yet here they are no proof
of vaccination. You're not getting in a little a little strange. Yeah,
and then in regards to LA, I did hear Gavin
Newsome was trying to make sure all patrons that is
a good point. So yeah, I'm not sure how they're
(18:16):
gonna fit in the seats now. I don't know if
you know this not he actually has one, but it's
been customized to where you are able to drink wine
inside the space suit. So I don't know if you
saw that or not, but you are. He's got one
of those like hard hat helmets with like wine bottles
on each side of his head coming down, little one
of those little yeah, with a little less straw you
put you put beers on both sides, or wine on
(18:39):
both sides, and you drink out of that. Yeah, it's good.
It's always a classy look appreciate his contributions. I do
wonder how much of a pushback they'll be, you know,
I really do. And and it's only because it's it's
a personal issue for a lot of people, you know.
And and regardless again of those who are vacts, and
we talked about science or whatever you want to talk
(18:59):
about to support your case of being vaccinated, it's not
even that. Like some people that I know that aren't vaccinated,
and then people that are, they just don't want to
share the private information with you, like, like they don't
feel that it's necessary to talk about whether they did
or didn't. And this is both sides of it. And
and that's where I kind of sit where I'm like,
we were allowing people to kind of infringe upon that,
(19:23):
you know, the ability to say that. But but again
it's his right to do so. And if if you look,
if you're not vaccinated, you're a Ridgis fan, you want
to go to a game, sorry, man, you're gonna have
to go to away game. Um that that's just the
reality of it. You're gonna have to set up your
trip to go somewhere else. And and until that either
changes or until you change your mind. So Mark Davis says,
every right, at least how to do that. To your
(19:45):
point though about the Saints, I will be curious to
see if there's a lawsuit, because that's when we're like,
come on, man, like some of these season ticket holders
and all this, like they might not have been aware
of it, or they might not have, you know, kind
of fully understood what was going on when they made
that deposit or when it rolled over for the next year.
You kind of subject yourself to some pushback there from
(20:05):
your fan base. And and by the way, in a
year where not only one do the Saints need at
home field advantage more than ever before given that Drew
Brees isn't there, but it's a huge it is a
huge advantage to you, you know, playing against the defending
Super Bowl champs in your own division, so you'd figured
you'd want to get as many rowdy people there as possible. Um,
(20:28):
I'll be I'll be curious to see how that one poison. Yeah,
I was gonna say that. You know, maybe that's an
indication as to how confident they feel about their quarterback
situation there. Like you know what, maybe it's not a
bad idea to not have people here, you know, like,
maybe maybe that's the the approach. We can kind of
chase people away for you see it. Yeah, that is
a good point. Yeah, maybe that's maybe that's the strategy
(20:49):
and the approach there. Um, you know, but again, um,
you know, Marty, Marty Grove has always been a real clean,
clean place, always a real sanitary and all that. So
it makes all the sense in the world. All right,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox's I'll kick the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio. So I want to make sure that I
do pay off the t So coming up fifteen minutes
from now, there is a really tough or unique situations
(21:10):
in the NFL that I think of factored in to
a player getting screwed over. So I want to throw
my theories at Brady Quinn and have him laugh at
me on the air. So that'll be a good exercise
for everybody involved that coming up here fifteen minutes from
now on FS are, Um, are you ready to play
this game or what? Man? Yeah? Man, I've been waiting
for this all morning. All right, here we go. It
is time for this turn on loof the headline or
(21:35):
is it a lie? Let's go to the new steps. Look,
now here's Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn and away we
go headline or lie here Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox, and this is where we try and see
who wants to team up with us, who's got the guts?
Uh the quote unquote you know, I don't want to
(21:55):
say that on the air. You never know who you're
gonna offend, but you know the point we're gonna see
other or not. You've got the courage to want to
be a part of the fastest growing game show and
all of sports talk radio. And we will get things
started here in Ohio where Corey is listening here on
Fox Sports Radio. Corey, what's happening? Hey, how you guys
doing this morning? We're we're hanging out, man, Corey. What's
(22:18):
going on? And you're driving a work or what? Well?
I just pulled in. I'm a teacher in Mansfield, Ohio.
So I'm just getting my you know, las mindset right,
getting a couple of mid last minute of outcake in. Alright,
this is this your first day of school. Uh, teacher
started yesterday, student come in on Tuesday, Okay, okay, alright,
so so you gotta get your mind, right, all right,
(22:39):
so you can team up with Brady Quinn and win
this game where you could team up with and lose
with me, and and I would recommend you probably team
up with Brady Quinn because I don't know that you
want to lose. I'm trying a different approach. I will
take that advice that sounds like friendly advice. Let's go ahead,
and I will go with Brady. All right, So there
it is. Yeah, look at you very good. It's a
(23:02):
little while, guys. I tried a little reverse psychology there.
I tried to see whether or not, you know, him
being a teacher, he was going to to try and
work me through my struggles mentally, but instead he just
bailed on me and said I'm gonna team up with
Brady Quinn and win the game. So that that backfire
that he goes that shows that it is the teaching preseason,
because I totally miss that. That's all right, Listen, it happens. Listen,
(23:23):
it's everybody's preseason, apparently like it. It happens, no problem,
no harm, no foul. Let's go to Indiana where Kyle
is listening here on Fox Sports Radio. Kyle, what's happening?
What's going on, gentlemen? How are we doing this morning?
We're just saying out, man, are you are you a
key teaming up with me? Uh? You know what if
that's that's the cards, I'm deal, let's make it happen.
What the f man like I have a little bit
(23:45):
like your reputation proceeds, you know? All right? It's fair enough,
all right. So here's how it works for people that
are listening. We've got ourselves some headlines here. It's either
an actual headline or to lie. I'm gonna read mind
a Brady's partner, he's going to read his to mind.
If we're ending up tied at the end of this list,
we go to a tiebreaker overtime question. So let's go
ahead and let's get things started here. And I will
(24:08):
start off with Brady Quinn's partner, Corey in Ohio. So Corey,
here we go. Headline or lie? A man nicknamed the
meat Wagon cost his team a beer pong tournament this
past weekend in Ohio. Crazy enough to be true? What
about a headline? Did a headline? I think at the
(24:31):
headline there it is very good. Yeah, he's not wrong,
he's not wrong. I'd like to get. I would like
to get his side of the story. If he remembers it,
I would I would love to get his side of
the story. He might not remember. It was pretty banged up. Yeah, alright,
here we go. Kyle Headline or Lie Hope Solo accused
(24:54):
his teammate Megan Rappino of bowling teammates into kneeling. Oh
have mine, no doubt? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, it's it's
it's it's the sober aspect of this game that's really
been mind boggling to be a part of. During the weekend.
These guys are Yeah, they're either sober just really good.
(25:16):
Maybe it's I don't know. All right, here we go.
Corey Brady, Quinn's partner, all tied up in Ohio, Corey,
Here we go Headline or Live. Following the release of
Tim Tebow on Tuesday, a lightning bolt struck Urban Meyer's
office and a flash flood canceled practice. I'm gonna say, lie,
(25:37):
oh man, it's good. Are you sure give us some time?
Like it's like a page out of revelation. It's like
dead fish, you know, all of a sudden pop up
on the you know, the field. It's a yeah, revelations, Brad,
I'm just saying every revelations in the Bible. It's very Yeah,
it's it's yeah, especially when it when I'm down, you know,
(25:58):
feeling really bad about myself. If I like to read
at the end of the world that that's always fun. Here, Kyle,
let's go a headline or lie, California man suffers groin
injury after forgetting to install a seat on his rogue
Echo bike. Uh that is a headline? Oh, come on,
(26:21):
come on? Can you not tell that this is clearly
a direct attack on me. It's like when when he
starts off like that, You've got Brady's got a certain cadence,
He's got a certain hell to where I know where
he's going with the football right there? All right, So
it is a too one lead for Brady Quinn and Corey.
You know this his headliner Lie Here. On Fox Sports Radio,
(26:42):
Jonas knocks Brady quim with you here all right, Here
we go a headliner lie to Corey. Brady's partner in
Ohio asked what advice he'd give rookie quarterback Justin Fields.
Bill's quarterback Mitch Rabinsky said, quote, listen to everybody except
Matt Naggy. I'm gonna say live Yeah, I mean, that
(27:06):
was a tough one. I was debating that line. There's
some bad blood the hey man, Mitch is back this weekend.
He's getting revenge. I'm hammering the bills. I'm hammering the bills.
Are there prop bets on the stats in that game?
All over? That we should make some up is what
we should do, Like like we should bring back the
profet monster. That's one of my very popular segments on
the weekend overnights during the NFL season, the prop that
(27:28):
monster and I'll make up prop bets. We need to
bring that back then? Alright, it worked so good it
was buried on weekend overnight, so of course, why wouldn't
we bring it back. Hey, sometimes just need a different audience,
all right, Kyle headline or lie as murders surge, Democrats
find a new message fund the police. Uh god, I
(27:51):
can't imagine them doing that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I mean,
it has to be a lie. My god, this is
ridiculous confident answer. It really mean? That doesn't tell you
(28:12):
like people will say anything nowadays, you know it is,
I don't know. Listen, Uh, we'll seeing about a month.
All right, here we go a headline or lie here
on Fox Sports Radio. And now if I'm not mistaken,
so you've got a three one lead. If you get
this correct, it's over, of course. Yeah, a, Corey, here's
(28:33):
the here's the situation. If you get this correct, the
game is over. If not, you open up the door
and we still have an opportunity to try and catch
up to you and Brady. So here we go headline
or lie to win it all. A man in New
York brought home an escort who wound up stealing a
thirteen thousand dollar rollux and a credit card. Recently headline
(28:55):
Jesus talking about cod and that was just really believable. Well, Corey,
you're all done all about confidence. Also, I told I listen,
I tried to tell you, man, I am terrible at
this game. There's not a game that I can win
on this show. I'm tired of it. I hate this
game and I'm starting to hate this show because of it.
So congratulations to Corey Kyle. We appreciate a man. I
(29:17):
have a good day. You're a good sport. It's not
your fault. You've got a bad teammate and me that's all.
I give you so much more material that you feel
it's necessary to then use it during the show. You
only provide me just just a little bit, like, for example,
a photo of a Rogue Echo bike in your house
and you're so excited about but again, there was no
(29:37):
seat installed. So I kind of feel like maybe there's
an issue where if you sit down that might not
feel too good. By the way Owen two versus that bike.
I just want to let you know it's gonna take
a little while. Uh. You know, you're like you think,
you know, you're thinking a jog down around the block,
you know, you know, yeah, I've in shape, you know,
(29:58):
jog around the my cardio is up, you know, my
gas take is there, and then you hop on one
of those things. Uh, And it's just like like a
dog who's been in two hundred degree heat all day.
Just embarrassing. But nonetheless that's what we're at. Well, you
don't have your dogs, so I don't. I hate to
bring that up. He sometimes use that comparison, and I
have to remind you don't have your dog anymore. Yeah,
(30:18):
there's a good point. Brady likes to remind me on
a weekly basis that my dog is dead. Um, so
if you are a member of Peter, first off, my
boxer died more recently than yours, so stop trying to
bring that up. I'm just I'm trying to remind you
of it, since you like to remind people your dog's dead. Yeah,
but I claimed it first, so you can't. You can't
claim your dog dies for like ten years. That uh no,
(30:42):
give or take. Listen, like look, probably a little bit
less intent. But I claimed it first, and because he
died first, I have every right to talk about him.
You don't get to talk about your dog passing. It's
humped everyone. Everyone's feel bad for you. Yeah, that's well's
I don't even know what that day is anymore, you know,
you know what they say average all right, Brady Quinn
Jonas knocks it's kicked. The coverage here on fs are.
(31:05):
By the way, that story about the guy who had
a thirteen thousand dollar rolex and a credit card stolen,
I swear to god, I think that's a Rick Flair story.
Rick Flair tells a great story how he went out
partying back in the day and somebody from the front
desk called up to his room because they saw a
(31:25):
woman he went home with walking out of the hotel
wearing one of his robes that he wore the ring
like literally like like like stole everything while he was
passed out drunk and was trying to walk out with
one of the robes. He wore the ring because he
had it in his hotel room. So that's classic story,
classic Ric Flair story passed out. His book is phenomenal.
(31:52):
Just like he talked about a quick Rick Flair story.
He talked about how he, like the stock market took
a hit and he had all his money tied up
in stocks because there was some issue ever get what
it was, but he was watching, he said. He remembers
watching on television losing just hundreds of thousands of dollars
and sitting there and just deciding there was nothing left
(32:14):
to do but to drink as much red wine as
they possibly had inside the hotel, and he just bottle
for bottle, just watching all his finances go out the window.
But it's a hell of a life that man lived,
or has lived. I'm not saying it doesn't you know
what I mean. No, I didn't, I know, I didn't,
I did not know. I'm just saying like you know
his career, you know, it's just you know, it doesn't
(32:35):
live that way anymore. Allegedly, All right, Brady Quinn, Jonas
knocks It's OutKick the Coverage here Fox Sports Radio coming
up next, though, there are two circumstances that completely screwed
over one player. I'm gonna throw my theory at Brady Quinn.
He's gonna throw it back in my face, and we're
all gonna have a laugh at my expense. It's yours
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we will call it a little over ten minutes from
now here on fs ARE, we will get back more
conversation about the NFL A season fast approaching, and we've
got all sorts of news and notes and some confusing ones.
So that'll be yours coming up here in about ten
(34:08):
minutes from now on fs ARE. UM, So I want
to throw this at you, Just throw this little theory
at you. UM. Josh Rosen his career was ruined because
of Steve Come of the Arizona Cardinals. The GM of
the Arizona Cardinals. Curious, keep going, keep going? If Kyler
(34:33):
Murray wasn't the quarterback number one overall in the next draft.
Is Cliff Kingsbury the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Well,
I mean technically Cliff Kingsbury got hired first, So I
understand what you're saying that there was there was the
(34:54):
thought that they hired Cliff because they knew they were
gonna take Kyler and they thought they would be the
perfect air for one another. Um. But but Kingsbury, you
know he was He's already there. Okay, but I don't know.
I mean, but he was already there. But if Kyler
Murray wasn't the quarterback who was going to go number
(35:14):
one overall? Was Kingsbury the guy who was going to
get the job. Based on what happened at Texas Tech,
I think he was gonna be offensive coordinator of the
of the USC Trojans. I believe that if Kyler Murray
is not the quarterback, that Cliff Kingsbury doesn't get the job,
which makes me feel like, which makes me think that
maybe Arizona doesn't go in the direction they go when
(35:36):
it comes to Kyler Murray, and maybe they do give
Steve Wilkes, and they do give Josh Rosen another opportunity
at a year too. I think Steve kin was desperate
to try and get some sort of juice within the organization,
some sort of excitement, and he jumped at the opportunity
to pair those two guys up. And thus, once he
walked away from Josh Rosen, Josh Rosen was screwed. Ever say,
(36:00):
because it was going to be an uphill battle. He
went to Miami. That was a disaster. They put him in.
Then they benched him, as we've seen Brian Flores do
from time to time, and I think he's been scrambling
ever since to try and get his career on track. Okay,
I'm not going to shoot down this theory, but I
will ask you this then. Alright, alright, I will ask
you this. I don't have to answer it, but you
can gonna ask it. If it makes me look bad,
(36:23):
I'm not gonna answer it. Um, I'm half tempted to
ask you the question I really want to ask you
ask me please. Well, Okay, so I flew back with
my kids yesterday and I was thinking of myself, uh,
flying back with three kids all below the age of five,
or crapping your pants on the first team walking eighteen holes?
Which would you rather do? Because I know my answer
(36:44):
to that, flying but with kids, no, no, would. I
would have been the ladder. Okay, That's that's how difficult
that whole scenario is. But I digress. Who wants to
walk around with swamp ass for eighteen holes? It's a
lot better than sitting on a lane flight for two
and a half hours. I've been screaming kids. Listen, I've
been on bad flight, so I'll wear it. I'm not
(37:05):
wearing you know that in my pants for eighteen holes.
Here's the difference then, between you and me. If if
you're flying with three little kids on a plane, you're
inconveniencing everyone out around you. I hate that. I hate
inconveniencing other people. It's honestly why, Like I try to
drive in that manner where I'm on it man, when
I drive, I drive fast and get out of everyone's
way all that. If i'm if I'm crapping my pants
(37:28):
on the first tea box and walk anything, it's really
only impacting me. So you think it's only impacting you,
but it changes your decision making. How many times have
you been in a rush to use the bathroom and
you forget all manners? Like you don't like like, like
you cut people off, you know you you run through
a red light like Coan come on, like you think
it's only you, but it's not. Yeah, I was gonna
(37:49):
ask you something about Steve Common. If this is a
do or die year, then I don't believe you enough
time then? So, oh, did you think this is an
NFL show? That's funny by you, Brady Quinn. No, why
would we talk to Steve Conn We swamp asten the hour.
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