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August 24, 2022 48 mins

It’s Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and a Bucs lineman likes LaVar’s criticism on Tom Brady. The guys look back on the life and career of Hall of Fame QB, Super Bowl champion and broadcaster Len Dawson who passed away at the age of 87. The Niners are fast approaching decision time on Jimmy G. and the Old P, Petros Papadakis weighs in on Tom Brady's vacation with Gisele and Week 0 in College Football.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with LaVar Areas Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Radio. Not thrilled about it. But LaVar started
a problem. There we go go good good heavens. Yeah,
here we go. So, I mean, you know, I don't

(00:23):
know if if you guys want to just go ahead
and get right into it. And uh, you know, LaVar,
I was hoping to get off on a lighter note.
But okay, well let's get off on a lighter note.
I'm good with whatever. Yeah, let's go with the light now, Yeah,
let's go with the light. Now was the light note?
Is there is no light note? Yeah? This I mean
now we do have good news. Um, the what we're

(00:45):
about to talk about has been taken down. It's been removed. Um.
But LaVar, you identified really yeah that we did a
little bit of research, a little bit of research here
and um, you know, LaVar was very opinionated yesterday about
the Tom eighty situation and Tom Brady returning. We have
the sound from LaVar yesterday. Yeah you want both versions, well, yeah,

(01:09):
we need to get the entire version. Okay, very good.
Y'all want the entire version LaVar yesterday. I'm sorry, as
a grown ass man, I can only go so far
with yeah, it's Tom Brady. At some point I'm like,
f's Tom Brady. You know what, I take everything back.

(01:32):
Let's let's hit rewind, let's hit the dump button, because
there's nothing like making sure you handle your business at home. Tom.
I'm not disappointed and you, in fact, I'm even more
proud of you. Yes, I can change my mind that quickly.
I've changed my mind. I'm I'm I'm still team Tom,
and you know what, yes, all right, But the problem

(01:58):
is knowing hear the second they that first, and so
because of it, yesterday we noticed that something very interesting
happened when Fox Sports Radio set out the Instagram reel
of LaVar laying into Tom Brady, just the first part
and not the second part. There was somebody who happened

(02:18):
to like that that video that was sent out that
real on Instagram, LaVar laying into Tom Brady, and it
was none other than Tom brady starting left tackle Donovan Smith. So, um,
yeah he is. Since I don't know who got to him.
I don't know if somebody said, hey, you might want
to go ahead and steer clear of that, or if
maybe Tom Brady founded on social media and got a

(02:40):
red ass about it. But um, we do have the
evidence that it was up there for quite some time,
but we checked recently and it is now no longer
on the on on Instagram there. So, LaVar, you kind
of started a little bit of a problem. Well, I
wouldn't say I started a problem. There's a possibility here,
and I'm just gonna be honest, right, Donovan Smith is

(03:02):
a Penn Stater and and I know him, and so
there's always the possibility he could have liked it just
because you you you're scrolling through and someone that you
like or someone you're familiar with is on your timeline
and on your feet, and you just hit like you
didn't listen to it, you didn't do anything. You you

(03:22):
just interacted with it in terms of you saw it.
It was, it was there, and you hit like, there's
that possibility. Now, then there's also the possibility that you
heard what I said and outside of uh Q Brady
uh doing doing what he did with with that sound
bite right there. You know, I know I know that

(03:46):
Braden Braden was up to that, and I know that
was him him that it couldn't have been. Why do
you think why do you think it was by doing it?
I have no ability to do that. I know it
was a request from Q. It had to be a request,
because that's too it's too funny, right, like is it's
like old But I know you changed your mind. Anyway.
The point is, here's the point, right. The point is

(04:08):
is that when I made that point, there's so many
people that said, well, he's Tom Brady or you weren't
that good of a pro Like I was looking at
the comments. I even made times of respond to something. Yes, wait,
did they really go there? That was? That was one
of the arguments. The whole thing is I could have
been the worst pro. Ever, like it doesn't change, like

(04:30):
regardless of me messing around and changing my opinion and
stuff like that, because I basically said I changed my
opinion because if you're not taking your wife to to
the Bahamas, maybe somebody else is. So I I go
with that. But on a more serious note, I think
you gotta take into consideration that what I said and

(04:53):
how I stated it, whether it's Tom Brady or it's
someone else, it could have been Joe Montage. You know,
I asked the question to one one one person because
Andre Collins chimed in as well. And Andre Collins is
a Super Bowl winning linebacker for the Washington football team.
Are the commanders? And and he was like, you know,

(05:14):
don't let me stir up the pot. He was like,
you know, the greats are treated differently, but better players
are treated differently. And we all know that. I'm one
percent aware of the fact that players get treated differently.
But how many times had how many times in your
career did the best player on your team take a

(05:36):
an eleven day, two week or whatever, however many days
vacation away from training camp to go to uh an
exotic place to vacation. How many times? How many times
did it happened for u Q? How many times did
the best player on your team, regardless of like you know,

(05:57):
their reputation and and this and that, like they could
have had, you know, a ton of Super Bowls, a
ton of success, how many left? How many left for
vacation during training cap zero? Right, So, so my whole,
my whole thing is at some point, you know, I know,
it's like all right, f Tom Brady was probably the
thing that stud stood out to people when I said it.

(06:18):
But when I said F tom Brady is it's not
like I'm saying F tom Brady. What I'm saying is,
it's like at some point where you're saying, well, it's
my teammate. So it's like a F tom Brady. If
you're willing to leave us while we're here doing these
things and everybody else is signed on in his hair,

(06:40):
you know, getting prepared and getting ready for season. You
don't take the rings that he's earned, You don't take
the seasons that he has has had, and you use
that as justification to say, oh, yeah, you know what, Tom,
you're Tom Brady. Go to the Bahamas for for however
long it's training camp. We don't need you. We just

(07:01):
want to win when you get back. Like that's that's
such a it's an easy take, but it's a shallow take,
and it's a shallow take because leaders lead. One. One
of one of the comments one of my uh, one
of my coaching colleagues said to me yesterday was what
was it, uh, the captain of the ship. The speed

(07:22):
of the captain is the speed of the crew. You know, basically,
like the ship is going to go the way that
the captain leads it the way that the the leader
leads the crew. And if that's how your leader is leading,
if that's the example that you're setting, that you feel
like it's okay for you to leave the team. You're
the only one that's going to lead the team and

(07:43):
go be on a vacation in the Bahamas. And that
becomes knowledge or wasn't prior knowledge to the players. Uh,
some players are going to have a problem with it,
regardless of anyone's feelings, you know, regardless of what you
think about me personally. I'm some of those guys are
going to have feelings towards that. Well, let me let

(08:05):
me pick on one thing, because this is something that
it was funny. I was talking to you. I have
a mailbox service where I get everything set and he
had asked me, He's like, hey, what's going on. He's like,
I heard you said just some stuff about the New
York Jets, and I was like, yeah, I did ago.
It was kind of funny, though, you know, I was
really more taking a shot at the New York media
um for the rose colored glasses they kind of have,

(08:26):
I said, And I don't know if the kids ready
to annoy him as this guy. Yet I go and
everyone seems to think it's criticism about the player, and
it's not criticized to play didn't criticize the player. Uh
just kind of pointed out that for whatever reason, though
the media New York doesn't seem to see it that way.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know,
it's like, oh, you know, people spouting off the different things.

(08:47):
And I said, you know, the interesting thing about that
is this, you'd think that even people who like, obviously
my NFL career did not go anywhere close the way
I dreamt, envisioned, etcetera, neither. But the reality is just
that a lot of the people who want to criticize
are the people who never had anything close to that experience.

(09:10):
And and and the only thing I'm saying, like even
to like someone who's in the position of Zach Wilson,
and like, really, I think where a lot of my
comments come from is the fact that I have been there.
I know what it means to be a first round pick.
I understand the signs and the things that start to
build up and happen where you've got a lot of hype,
a lot of momentum, and then all of a sudden,

(09:30):
some things start to not work out because you're part
of a bad organization. Regardless of how talented you are
or the staff of the front office, all those things
that look to be good on paper, it's just a
bad run organization. And you're in a division where you're
gonna be tough to, you know, to get any wins
can compared to who you're playing up against. And so
I've been there, I can see those signs. I've experienced

(09:51):
the firsthand. And so actually no one can probably speak
better to that than me. And people who always will
always talk about how well, yeah, but like someone like
Tom Brady's got way more credibility, well he does when
it comes to winning super Bowls. No one's had better
credibility when it comes to him for that. When you
start asking Tom Brady what it feels like it feels
like to fail, I don't know that he's gonna be

(10:12):
able to tell you that. You know, I'll be honest
with you. I don't know what other than a few
instances where he's like, yeah, man, I remember the time
it lost the Super Bowl. It's like, okay, what about
the time when you want a crappy tea. Oh that's
never happened. Yeah, okay, so you don't really know what
that feels like. Like trust me. Like people can take
shots about how people in the media talk or what

(10:34):
they say or what their career was, the reality is
when they've been there and they've experienced it, they can
speak more passionately about it. And and I took what
you said, LaVar yesterday as yeah, there's to be honest
with you, there's probably some players, veteran players, who are
thinking that they don't want to say what you're saying,

(10:55):
but they're thinking that. They're thinking and and and the
and the reason why I think Bill Belichick and Tom
Brady we're such a good match together. And maybe even
you could say, you know, pat Riley and Lebron when
he went to Miami to be with the Heat. You
can look at Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan's whatever head coach

(11:16):
and and quarterback or All Star player. Whenever they have
been a great match together. It's important because that coach
holds that player accountable. And I said this yesterday, I'll
stand by it. This didn't happen if he's in New England.
There's no way Bill Belichick would let him go on
a ten eleven day vacations the Bahamas during training camp,

(11:36):
no way. And you know what that was because of
the culture there. He didn't want him to be treated
different than anyone else. And I can look, I was
had all the coaches that basically came from that regime
in New England, Belichick, okay, And that was the one
thing that you learned right away is they would take

(11:57):
in a film session, and the film sessions got brutal
this star player and they would literally sit there and
critique every little thing and make you feel like you
were the worst player in the league. And you don't
want to know why they did that. A because you
could take it and be because that they could do
it to the star player, they could do it anyone
eld it And that was the culture. That was how

(12:18):
they build it. And so when you when you had
a culture like that, everyone feels the same. They're gonna
all work in unison towards the same goal. When you
start making exceptions for players, and look, I understand, you
know there's gonna be exceptions made for star players. There is,
and especially if this is part of Tom Brady just
be able to come back and play this year, you're
gonna make that exception. But the reality is, yeah, there's

(12:39):
some guys who are gonna think that. There's some guys
who are gonna be upset about that. That's just human nature.
So I didn't think, you know, you said anything out
of lines. Maybe the yeah, but but I was going
for effect. I was going for the effect of it,
you know what I mean. It was a good media move.
I was hoping you actually said the effort, so we
bleeped it. Yea beach. We actually should go back and

(13:01):
bleep it, just so it makes people think, oh, man,
you never know what LaVar is gonna say. It's just
what a what a wild man? I do never know
what he's gonna say. I have no I have no
effing you know what's you know, it's funny you mentioned
what it was like in New England. Remember like the
last year or two when he didn't show up to
minicamp which was voluntary, and it was like, God, there

(13:24):
must be some drama going on. Dude. He's two years
removed and he's like disappearing from training camp for ten
days to go on vacation like that. Like the difference
between how things were there and how things are here
are night and day and and even just from last
year you made the point. No way Bruce Arians is
okay with this, and I would love to hear Bruce

(13:45):
Arians give his opinion on it. If you notice, he's
been nowhere to be found, he's been nowhere to be found.
The other thing, all you all you idiots out there
who when you hear a take from Brady or LaVar
and then you need to all of a sudden start
pulling up the resume. It's one of the dumbest arguments
I've ever heard. What does any of that have to

(14:06):
do with any point that's been made. It's got nothing
to do with anything. It would be like me condemning
some guy you know who committed a hit and run
and him saying, oh, yeah, well you've had a speeding ticket.
It's like, wait, what what are you talking about it?
That's not even the conversation we're talking about you. It's
a completely different subject than everybody that goes that direction.

(14:27):
What what are you getting at? What's the point is
anything that anybody has said wrong? Is it that far
fetched to think that there's some people in the locker
room there who are sweating their ass off trying to
make a team playing in a contract year, who realized,
if we play well, this is going to set my
family up for the rest of their lives. Generations upon
generations who are thinking, wait, but our best players taken

(14:47):
off to go to the Bahamas for ten days. It's
not that far fetched to think, regardless of where you
are in the pecking order, that somebody would be piste
off about this. That's why I had no issue with
what you said, and I thought it was funny, and
I thought the fact that you went around the complete
opposite direction afterwards was even funnier because now you know,
now you've cornered the market on both tapes, and nobody

(15:08):
else is allowed in great Thank you very much. Well,
I'm glad you saw my strategy. The brilliant Thank you,
Thank you brilliant. Can we get around soccer? You know what,
though it's a college football Hall of Famer right there,
I can't make to like football prodcast. It would be like,

(15:29):
so you have like those classy comments that you hear
in soccer, you know, brilliant touch you you know, I'm
like that sounds so cool, Like why can't we just
do that in football. Come on, you can do it.
You can do it. Yeah, come on, you be then
I'm gonna let someone else try to attempt that and
try to make it work. I don't have a good

(15:49):
British act. Brady be that tone center, except this time
come back in the game, you know, like unlike the
kiddie coached, you know, convince them to appreciate it is. Well. Yeah,
he was walking around, he couldn't find his feet. Yeah,
I get back here there, He'll be all right. The
other kids and there be sure to catch live editions

(16:13):
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am
Easter three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio. We are hearing some and seeing some
reports out there that Hall of Fame quarterback Len Dawson,
uh Super Bowl winner himself with the Kansas City Chiefs,

(16:33):
that he has passed away at age eight seven. So
we know, yeah, he had been battling some stuff. I
think I saw that he was put on hospice care
and so it was heading towards this direction. But Len Dawson,
who I can remember just growing up watching him on HBO. Yeah,
inside the NFL for years. He was fantastic. He was

(16:54):
Len Dawson was so good and just to see Um.
You know, it's obviously sad for the Chiefs. But you know, Brady,
I'm sure you heard a lot about Len Dawson playing
in Kansas City. Yeah, no, he was. He was an
icon there. I mean just from obviously the impact bringing
bringing a championship. He's a Super Bowl champion, superwom VP.
But one of the more legendary photos you can see

(17:14):
him on the sidelines, you know, smoking a dart. UM.
But that was like like that's when you think about
like way back when, like that's how long ago it was.
But he still had an impact on the organization. UM
did some broadcast work around it. I believe he was
the color analysis for the radio network for a while. UM.
But you know it was always there if if you ever,

(17:37):
you know, needed to talk to someone about something. UM.
Just a just a wonderful, wonderful human being from from
my accounts being around him there. But sad, sad day
when you lose not only a great player, but but
a good person. Yeah he's sitting on I'm looking at
the picture now, He's sitting on a steel folding chair
with a lung dart and in between his feet is

(18:00):
a Fresco soda I believe. And he's got the old
school black cleats. Uh. Just that's that's just a legendary photo.
But how about it, man, just smoking a heater right
after the game's over, like that you guys playing old school. Man,
you guys play with anybody, it would smoke a cigarette
right after a game was over. With coaches, it was

(18:20):
still it was actually still acceptable for coaches to smoke cigarettes,
like right outside soon as practice was over. We had
one that smoked a cigar I won't say no names.
And there was one that smoked cigarettes, and they would
smoke after every single practice, like in the back, but
like where the practice field is, like right outside the

(18:41):
door going back into the facility. We had some coaches
who smoked the left handed cigarettes. Oh yeah, yeah, walk
that green wolf huht a certain part of the parking lot.
You're like, oh, they're stuck around here. Okay. You know
how inspired I was by inside the NFL growing up, Man,

(19:04):
there was like a few things, like there were a
few things that like, we're a part of my childhood
that just like we were influences, like would get me excited.
It was always like it always came on early, you know,
and and and it was like it would come on
and then I would go get my plastic Steelers helmet

(19:24):
with with the two bars, and and I would go outside.
I had I had a lens swan um what was it?
Is it Kalmart? Was it kmart, Spiegels It might have
been Spiegels, whatever it was um. And and me and
my brother would play football one on one and he
he had a Raiders uniform or or Miami maybe it

(19:48):
was a Dolphins. It was a Hutch uniform, like the
old Hutch, you know, you know what I'm talking about,
right that, like they had the plastic helmet that came
along with it and had the the like the little
little pads and stuff like that, like the whole uniform
and on everything. I would watch, we would watch inside
the NFL, and I would go outside, and I'd be

(20:09):
so inspired to win my one on one football against
my older brother. And that was really truly how like
I got, like, like I mean, in a lot of
ways inspired to keep playing. You know. That was how
I was was able to learn about football players and
and and didn't even know I was really learning it

(20:29):
all like that, but man, it was that was one
an inspiration growing up, you know, watching those guys Lynn
Balias and Nick Bona Lynn Dawson excuse me, um shouts
out to d C, but you know, Lynn Lynn Dawson
and Nick Bonakhani, like it was amazing the job they

(20:51):
did and and bringing to life the conversations because you
gotta think that was that was the early stages of
how how it would work, you know, and how you
would interact talking about the games. Like it almost was
like that was a framework for where the industry went,
you know. And and so it's it's an institution. It's

(21:12):
still out there, you know, it's still going inside the NFL.
But yeah, man, that that's sad to hear about. Lynn
Lynn Dawson and Chris Collinsworth spent time there. And anything
HBO does is phenomenal. They just do great work production wise,
and yeah, their presentation. Man. I remember those Hutch uniforms.
I begged my parents for one for years and they

(21:34):
could because they were kind of expensive from what I remember,
and they finally were able to get me one. I
remember it was a Neil Anderson Bears. H Yeah, so
I think I still have the plastic helmet too. I
think it's somewhere in my mom's house. I still have
that plastic Chicago Bears helmet. But yeah, man, I wouldn't
suggest your head with that helmet. Probably not a good

(21:56):
I did it a couple of times. It didn't. It
didn't what let's just say, just didn't in well, that's
a Brady. Who do you have Bernie had? Bernie Kurtzerah.
I think Draft Day they showed me in that exact
uniform helmet, you know, jersey pants, all that, just sitting
there look like Bernie Bernie uniform on, just slinging little

(22:18):
Bernie side arm action. Um. All right, so, speaking of
didn't you remember Bernie Coozar did win a Super Bowl.
He was a backup in Dallas for one of the
years that the Cowboys won in the nineties, and he
actually took a knee at the end of a game.
So he got into a super Bowl and actually won
a Super bowls a backup. And another guy who has
one of Super Bowls a backup is Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy

(22:40):
Garoppolo won a Super Bowl a couple of Super Bowls
as a backup for Tom Brady and then with the
Patriot was it was very masterful. And so we keep
on the super Bowl theme because Brett Farve has also
won a Super Bowl, much like Dawson, much like Jimmy Garoppolo,
and Brett Farve had this to say about Jimmy Garoppolo
and what should be done there with Jimmy G when

(23:00):
it comes to the forty nine ers. No offense towards
Trey Lance, but what Jimmy has done is when and
when when when? Again? Not flash you So it's not
the glamorous pick, but my goodness, the guy has won
and put him in a position to go or compete
for the Super Bowl year in a year out and
deserves that right to keep playing. But I think their

(23:23):
defense is really good. Offensively, if Trey plays the way
they hope in its capable up, then you know they're
they're competing for it right there at the end. There's
a tremendous subside with Trey, There's no question about it.
But Jimmy G has has been approven winner and and
that's oftentimes, and I said this earlier, Oftentimes that gets
overlooked as a guy a winner and and the Garoppolo

(23:47):
is definitely a winner. All right. So this is the
latest according to Kyle Shanahan, who has said that anything
is on the table when it comes to Jimmy Garoppolo.
John Lynch has also said it. You've even got Jed Yorke,
the owner, who has chimed in and said, well, we
wouldn't mind keeping Jimmy Garoppolo around. He's due twenty four
million dollars and what a week less than a week

(24:08):
if he's still on the roster at that time. And
there's some fear, according to Matt Mayoko of NBC Sports
Bay Area, that if the Niners let him go, which
a lot of people expect them to, that Seattle could
could pounce pretty quickly here. So Brett Farve see some
value in him. We've talked about it before. It's just
it's odd to think that this guy is going to

(24:30):
be out of work soon and the season is as
close to the beginning here coming up in a couple
of weeks. Two thoughts here. The first is that if
you're so concerned that you might let him go and
he might go to a division rival and then come back,
it might come back to bite you. It's kind of
on you, like maybe it's telling you something that maybe
you shouldn't be letting go of this guy in the

(24:50):
first place. So either bite the bullet, pay us price
to keep on your roster, be a backup, or let
him go and be confident your decision and move on
to trade lance. I mean, it's pretty simple, like you're
moving on from the guy, go let him go somewhere
else and have an opportunity if you don't think he's
better than trade lance. And clearly no one's gonna give
anything up for him in a trade, at least not

(25:11):
at this point, because they know the only thing that
the forty nighters can do is either keep him in
PAM or you'd release him and then be subject to
him going somewhere else where. It again, he might go
to Seattle or somewhere that could come back to haunt them.
So I just I find that interesting that, you know,
if that's the concern, you'd have to kind of look
in the mirror and then say, well, wait a second,

(25:31):
maybe we should rethink our thinking of how we're viewing
this quarterback situation. But they have gone way too far
down the trade lance road to turn back now, and
so I really think the only thing they can do
is release him. But one of the things that people
are probably gonna want to you know, they're not going
to trade for him too, is because this contract would
be fully guaranteed if he's on the week one opening

(25:53):
day roster, uh, due to that benefits within the CBA
for vested veterans. So because of that, know, if he's
on that opening day roster, it's gonna be guaranteed for
the rest of the year. And let's say, for example,
they end up cutting him at some point, he could
then go back and get what's called termination pay, so

(26:13):
he actually would be able to recoup some of the
payments within that contract depending on how much time he
would miss. Even if he missed the rest of the season,
he'd still be able to go back and get that
those moneys. So it's, uh, it's it's kind of a
tough contractual situation that the forty Niners are in having
to pay Jimmy Garoppolo potentially, uh, if he's gonna stay
on the roster this year, or whether he's a backup,

(26:34):
or even if they end up letting go of him.
I like, what what Brett Farbe had to say, I'm
being told to a grants. But with that being said,
you did draft trade Lands, and you did go high
to draft him and bring him in. And if you're
feeling as though this is the time to move on,
then this is the time to move on. I don't

(26:56):
think you you can't look at what will be with
Jimmy Garoppolo. If you've made the decision to move on
and and he boned you, so to speak, by getting
the surgery to repair his arms so that he can
be prepared to be able to play wherever that is,
I think you just gotta you gotta move on, and
and you gotta take what comes along with that. So

(27:18):
if that were to be him ending up in in
Seattle and and he got picked up after being released,
oh well, oh well, you just you gotta move on
from it. But I will say this, they weren't very
good without Jimmy Garoppolo. And and so moving into the
future knowing that you're you're taking a chance with this

(27:42):
new draft choice, uh, this new new player that that
has now had an opportunity to get acclimated to the
league and to the offense and to what the expectations
of him are going to be. You have to be
prepared to go through growing pains of him not being
the type of player that gives you the type of results,
uh and winning right away, and you gotta you gotta

(28:04):
accept that that's a possibility and not you know, not
have buyer's remorse if it doesn't go the way that
you think it's going to go. And I would I
would urge that the fans have to feel the same
exact way and that approach, because it may be hard
to compare what Trade Lance achieves this year to what
Jimmy Garoppolo has been able to achieve as a starter

(28:24):
during his time there. Garoppolo is a pretty big upgrade
over anybody in Seattle right now? Correct or am I am?
I cred when he'd given his experience and everything he's
accomplished when healthy, he is an upgrade to anything they
have in Seattle. Yes, yeah, I think that that would
be a lot of fun if he ends up in Seattle.
And Pete Carroll, can you know, send Jimmy Garoppolo out

(28:46):
there potentially to to try and you know, get get
a little bit of revenge on San Franz. Get Jimmy
versus Trail Lance. That would be fun. He's an upgrade
in New York too. Take your pick over Dandil Jones
and Tyrod Taylor or are you talking to Zack Wilson. Yeah,
take your pick of teams. Listen. I'm not I don't

(29:08):
want to steer you away from your guy, Zach Wilson.
That's the only problem, you know. I am a Zach
Wilson enthusiasts. I did pick him to have the best
the best rookie season, but that was where it began
and ended for me. I mean, I'm not, you know,
although I will say I am a fan of him
being able to to get his mom's home girl. Like,
I am a fan of that, that's the most important thing.

(29:30):
I am a fan of him having the type of
game and charm where he could charm his his his
mom's home girl. But I mean, but outside of that,
I don't know how far I'm righting with him into
the future in terms of me being high on his trajectory.
Right now, it's just a little you know, a little nervous,
little concerned about putting my eggs in that basket, so

(29:51):
to speak. Yeah, Yeah, he wasn't Yeah, he has no
problem putting his eggs in the basket. You guys are
class acts. What you guys are amazing. You're driving the
car and so we're all playing mailbox baseball together, and

(30:11):
now you're looking at us like, oh, what are you
guys doing? Like you handed us the bats. We're playing
a little baseball here and and we're you know, swinging
at it a little bit sword fighting. Huh remember mailbox
baseball back in the day, old school. Yeah, of course,
you're talking about where you hung out the car and
you just knock off the you know, bang the mailbox

(30:33):
off of it. It's a it's that's very mean. You know,
it's very mean deal. I agree. But the people used
to do it back in the very inconsiderate you used
to do it. That was the thing. And I gotta
tell you got to pick the right mailbox because if
you pick the wrong one, Um, yeah, don't. We don't
encourage that you go out and do this, by the way,
else that's that's vandalism and you know all that stuff.

(30:54):
But but I will say this, Uh, if you hit
the wrong mailbox, that could be a very very hor
double experience. Anyway, you know it could lead the injury,
like do not try this at home type action. He
thought that mailbox was gonna come off, and and and
then you realize that, uh, you hit that mailbox and
you're not in the car anymore, you know what I mean.

(31:14):
And that has been known to happen, at least I've heard.
I've heard that's possibility. And God forbid, you don't want to,
you know, go trick or treating near Albert Bell's house,
you know, speaking of baseball. I gotta be careful there
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it over to our guy, Petros papadach Is. I mean,
listen Fox college football analysts during a game week. He

(32:16):
is the co host of the Petros Money Show on
the blowtorch Am five seventy l A Sports. Petro's Happy
game Week to you. We know you got a big
one coming up later on this week. So thank god.
The Yukon press release came out yesterday. I was scrambling,
We're ready to go, though, I don't know what's so

(32:38):
funny about Ukon at Utah State. Listen now, hey, UTAs
State say to put him on there with your boy
Logan Bonner. That's right, slap one out there. Are you
gonna be in studio? Brady? I am not. I will
be watching though, how about that? Come on? Awkward silence,

(32:58):
Come on, petch me outside, you know Petro's I saw
what Tom Brady did and I was like, hey, can
I opt for a vacation to the Bahamas over the other?
Is that what he did? Yeah? I thought it was
the mass singer. Is that over? Okay? That's no longer.
Can we get your opinion on it? Because I've been

(33:21):
catching heat that I'm just a disgruntled, hating No, no,
give Petros the backstory to it. I mean you did
say that, Tom Brady. Yeah, do we have we have
the sound of LaVar kind of. I mean he is annoying.
Here was here was LaVar yesterday and let me hear it.
There's a clear difference between the first portion and the
here we go we love this. I'm sorry, as a

(33:43):
grown ass man, I can only go so far with Yeah,
it's Tom Brady. At some point I'm like, f Tom Brady,
you know what, I take everything back. Let's let's hit rewind,
let's hit There's nothing like making sure you handle your business.
I'm not disappointed in you. In fact, I'm even more

(34:06):
proud of you. Yes, I can change my mind that quickly.
I've changed my mind. I'm I'm I'm still teen, Tom
And you know what, yes, all right? Can I put
this in context? Yeah? Yeah, so my first take that
was not the these same these guys be spoofing me, man,

(34:27):
not like they spoofed me with the same segment. It
was the same segment, but they kind of claiming editing. Yeah,
they edited, they claimed they altered what I said that
the brick and he went crazy. It was the Chris
Paul Kobe Bryant thing. Remember, we edited and was like,
Chris Paul is way better than Kobe Bryant. He just

(34:48):
lives the m v P. And we put it out
in a commercial and he absolutely lost it. Hold on,
hold on. We chopped out what Jonas and I said
in between. That's the only thing we edit it out.
So that's yeah, I get the gist. No way, that
is not that is not true. No, because when I

(35:09):
said here it again, I can hear the editing in
there looking hard. Don't worry. Yeah, I got you back here.
Let me. I'm sorry. As a grown ass man, I
can only go so far with us man. Yeah, it's
Tom Brady. At some point I'm like, f Tom Brady.
You know what, I take everything back. Let's let's gone,

(35:29):
and let's hit there. I'm sure you handle your business
at home. Tom. I'm not disappointed in you. In fact,
I'm even more proud of me. Yes, I can change
my mind that quickly. I've changed my mind. I'm I'm
I'm still teen, Tom. And you know what, Yes, all right,

(35:50):
you're here to editing. Did you hear I heard it?
But but also you have to back up off of
it and set your cup down. I really did it.
I really did it. I don't care. Here's what I'm
gonna say. Right when when it was introduced that maybe
someone else would want to do the family vacation time
in the Bahamas, I said, you know what, you take

(36:12):
care home like I got it, Like I get that.
But but my first point was if I'm a player
in the locker room and understand Lavara, I get it.
I mean, do you get it? Listen. I remember Tony Gonzalez, right,
was like five years old and he didn't want to go.
He wanted to play, and Arthur Blank wanted him to play,

(36:36):
but he didn't want to go to camp because he
was old, and the old guys don't want to go
to camp. And if you're a tight end, I guess
you know, run a couple of y sticks every once
in a while. You're good. The quarterback leaving for eleven
days to go to the Bahamas, it's unheard of. And
I know, I know it's Tom Brady and all that,
but it is unheard of. But I guess you could

(36:58):
also say, and I'm sure Brady's on Brady's side. I
guess you could also say hold on, hold on, pause
before I was on Giselle's side, That's why, and that
was that was why I said Gazelle is undefeated. I
said Tom Brady as the greatest resume we've ever seen

(37:19):
in the NFL, probably ever will see. But he still
will never be Giselle. And you think about Giselle is
she has still has a side hustle cutting purshudo with
her nose. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, put in

(37:43):
and smoke it, yeah, shells side. But I guess what
is also unprecedented and what's unheard of that a player
this good and it is excellent has kept up his
ability and been relevantly competitive deep into his forties, which

(38:09):
I am deep into my forties, and it's amazing to me.
I mean, Tom Brady was playing college football when I
was playing college football, so it is an amazing uh.
I mean, just to play with those big gass pads
and to still be playing now with the small path,
it's amazing. So all of it is, I guess, kind
of new. And I guess if you take the Brady deal,

(38:30):
if you're Tampa Bay, I mean, I guess you don't
have much to complain about. But if I'm in that
locker room, I agree with LaVar the first thing. LaVar, Yeah, well,
if I'm a player, I'm questioning the commitment level. Yeah,
but what do you do when he comes back and
he starts, you know, you don't get your head around
in the flat and he throws the ball off your face?

(38:51):
You know, I mean, it's not an issue until it's
an issue, right, I guess. Hey, by the way, Petro,
you know I'm with you. I I was dumbfounded by it.
You know, I didn't. I couldn't believe it that you
could just leave camp for eleven days without having some
kind of personal crisis. What we mentioned was this wouldn't

(39:13):
have happened if he was in New England, right, Like
if wouldn't have happened if Bruce arians is his head coach.
And so that's probably one of those deals where when
he comes back and decides to come out of retirement,
he's probably negotiating this sort of stuff into it. I mean,
Todd Bowle has admitted as much that this was planned.
It had to be right, but it is funny walked

(39:33):
back into the locker room like, hey, what up? Given
everyone I think. I think here's here's the deal you
make with the devil, though, right is as as much
as you're trying to create the culture there where you
don't want guys to say, well, f him. There's also
the element of well, who's behind him? Like who's playing
quarterback for so if it's not Tom Brady, is it
cal Trask? Who? I mean? Look, it's a fine line

(39:57):
on any football team, and it's a very dangerous thing
to really really exploit the pecking order. Everybody knows there's
a pecking order. It's blatant on any level. But I'll
tell you one thing. Guys, Logan Bonner from Utah State
leave He ain't leaving camp now, Yeah, you know what,
He's not leaving college football a sixth year forever forever.

(40:22):
He's like Brady and and by the way, by the way, Petros,
if he did want to leave, he could just take
a United Airline flight that According to Jordan Addison, how
about that hot Yeah, shocking and the n I L
deals come out. Petro's shocking. Didn't see that coming. Come on,
throw him on, throw the deuces up. Petro's you're such

(40:43):
an antagonist. What do you mean it's not a deuce.
It's a vie for victor whatever that As far as
where I'm from, many Petris Petricks didn't you didn't you
think it was kind of a good look a tribute
to Carson Palmer wearing that throwback jersey there in front
of the plane. You're really you're really trying to needle me.
But listen, Uh, you know, I don't know this an

(41:05):
I L thing is so weird. United Airlines. Remember when
that doctor who turned out to be kind of a
shady guy, but he still didn't deserve to have his
head bounced against every seat on that plane. Yeah, you know,
I fly United. I'm hoping that happens to me and
you win some huge, crazy lawsuit. Well I could see

(41:27):
it taking more dudes to to remove you. You're a
big horse, that big head, just smashing the seats. I
get Tony Buzzby to represent me. If it was Giselle,
she'd split those seats in two. Yeah, famous people, sharp,

(41:51):
sharpas face. Take that with your sharp face. So that
doctor that got dragged out really kind of brought the
United Airlines power structure to the forefront in the news cycle.
Remember that, and the United Airlines CEO turned out to
be this really creepy guy. Well, that guy is a

(42:13):
huge USC trustee and donor. And didn't they try to
do a United Airlines naming rights on the coliseum a
little while back. So now all of United Airlines, which
is a huge USC corporation so to speak, because of
their higher ups, is supporting their wide receiver mercenary who's

(42:35):
running around in mild quarterback's number. And uh, I don't
know how n I L works as far as what's
okay and what's not okay, but it's pretty funny. I mean,
can't we just pay the guys? Yeah, I mean look
at you know, Petris, Was there any company you would

(42:55):
have preferred to sponsor you back when you were playing?
I mean in my day? Yeah? Come on, what are
we thinking? Are dark Horse comics? Let's go in the
days of in the late nineties when dark Horse was
coming out with hell Boy in Sin City. Let's go
what about like m like some of the Yeah, what
about that? I mean Boone's Farm, Strawberry Hill was a

(43:19):
class We're gonna talk about bad alcohol, about spearmint Rhino,
the spearmint on the often top dead. It's right off
the dead bru Way. Listen. I had a hundred yard
game and they took me to a strip club. They
took me to the one by one of the ones
by the four oh five called four play, and I

(43:42):
had never I believe it or not. I am not
a big fan of the strip club. It just gives
me the willies and I feel bad for everybody involved
when I'm there, and I can't I can't put myself
outside of it and be like, wow, look at that ass,
you know, looking at Yeah, what did that knows? So

(44:08):
so I went to the strip club and you know,
I was with my teammates and I was sitting there,
you know, kind of uncomfortable, and uh, I remember there
was a highlight of me running for a touchdown on
the TV in the corner, which is nice, but digging
it to a girl, you know, climbed all the way
up the pole like they do, and then she was
spinning upside down, you know slowly, uh, on the way down,

(44:31):
and she locked she locked eyes with me and she said,
I know your father. I haven't been to many strip
clubs since then she had had her birthday at our restaurant.
But but it still was it still was a Shock

(44:54):
by the Way four play still open. That's still I
think Bear Elegance is still there. The Jets Strip, I
believe one of the classic just topless places around town.
The Wild Goose is uh is closed. The closed. If

(45:14):
I had a quarters, if I had a quarter for
every I remember the Chargers had The Chargers had camp
at Home Depot Center for a while way back in
the day when like Drew Brees was on the team
and La Damien and Tim Dwight and people like that.
And I remember working at my dad's restaurant and they
had all come in for dinner, and I remember they

(45:37):
had a giant Australian punter and I remember giving him
directions to Bear Elegance, like meticulous directions you know before ways.
You know. I was like, no, you get on the
one oh five and has the exit prairie right. Man

(45:58):
like Drew Brees is in the background like signing autographs
and I'm like, no, no, no, make a who was
the lee? Did you look up who the who the
Australian partner was that he was talking about, Darren Bennett. Yeah,
there was. I don't know how many guys went to
the club. That's good. Um Petros, it's a happy game

(46:19):
week to you. We don't have an on camera. Brock
Heward took our camera. Aram in Ireland out right, Ivan
Droo took my camera. I'm gonna be calling the game
my freaking couch surfers out to pretend that he's in Ireland.

(46:42):
That's the way to ruin the surprise. I mean, come on,
I was hoping who's gonna win that game? Petros? Yeah,
come on, well I'm calling it. I can't say, Oh,
you mean Nebraska and Northwestern? Yah, dude, I mean Nebraska
gotta do something right. This has got to be it.

(47:03):
But Northwestern you used to say the same thing. Well,
he's a hell of a coach, right, just he gets
more with less every year, more than anybody in college football.
I would agree with that. I mean, when us he
was having trouble twelve years ago, I would have locked
Pat Fitzgerald in a room and not let him out
until he was hired, and it might not offend. He
fixed their culture. He would have been so good. Now

(47:27):
it is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, and it is our buddy Petros. Papadkis.
You can get him on Twitter at the old p
I'm gonna go eat some lamb skiers off it. Just
else knows way to stick the landing. Uh, Petros, we
appreciate it. We'll do it against you. Thanks man, just

(47:54):
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