August 31, 2022 • 46 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jimmy G gets paid as a backup in San Francisco. Baker’s got a red ass for the Browns in week 1 and The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to talk College Football Week Zero.
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It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Area's Grady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox four Radio. The Jimmy Garoppolo um situation with the
forty Niners is really bizarre. It's it's just awkward. The
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whole thing. The whole thing is weird. Kyle Shannon yesterday,
upon the news that came out that Jimmy Garoppolo staying
in San Francisco, he reworked contract, he's gonna be there,
no trade clause included, and all that stuff. Kyle Shanahan
spoke yesterday about the situation not only with Jimmy Garoppolo,
but how this affects Trey Lance and News Starter. We
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were always clear to Jimmy that him salary cap wise
and stuff in a backup role um and supporting trade
in that and if that worked for him, that was
a no brainer for us. We just didn't think the
chances of that we're gonna happen, and it ended up
being that way. So when it was also outn't done.
Even though it's pretty shocking to us, we thought it
was a win win for both eyes. We feel very
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strongly given the keys to trade. Um, we were really
excited what we thought that could do for a team
as a whole. And we're excited about everything he's done
and all these opportunities has gone throughout this obstins and
and I can't wait to get him started on our
team in Week one. And having Jimmy there is a
backup makes us feel really good because we have a
very we have a starting quarterback as a backup. The
rest of the league had a chance to get him,
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and I'm just so feel so fortunate that he's still
here in that case, man, is the rest of the
league had a tank to get him. Happen To ask
you guys a question before we go like any further,
And I know this is probably one que that you
can answer. When you have a no trade clause, you
can still be traded. It's just mutually agreed upon correct correct. Yeah,
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that's one of the biggest misconceptions with it is that
people think, oh, it's got no trade. I said, I
get traded. It's like, no, he has the right to
refuse the trade if it's not the tea that he
wants to go to. So technically, if something would happen
now that he's under control and our contract with the
forty niners. Again, Um, he could he could just say yeah, no,
I'm not going there, which which is interesting, Like it's
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interesting they gave him that within this one year deal
and one year structure, which San Francisco is probably betting, like, yeah,
this is really unlikely it's gonna happen. But I sense,
I don't know how you listen to Kyle Shanahan when
he says that, I don't want to say it sounds
like sarcasm. It does sound like, you know, there's there's
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maybe some animosity there, there's something there, And I don't
know if it's a matter of the fact that had
Jimmy Garoppolo not gotten surgery, he wouldn't be here right now.
We wouldn't be having this conversation. Had Jimmy Garoppolo not
had surgery, he would have been traded. Like that's flat
out the truth, and San Francisco has admitted as such.
So the fact now that he's back, I honestly feel
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like it's a problem that Kyle Shanahan doesn't want to acknowledge,
doesn't want to admit, but now it exists, even though
I think it does put their team in a better
position to sustain this season if there's a trade, lance injury,
or even if he plays poorly, like you can go
back to Jimmy g whether It'skyle Shanahan wants to do
that or not, because he's been successful there who I mean,
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I think there's a Again, I think there's a there's
layers to this and and there is that side of it,
and I think that that side of it is sensible.
I mean, to redo your contract to be able to
stay and and be in a you know, accepting place
of this is a backup role for you. Again, I think,
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I think, based under the circumstances, Jimmy Garoppolo is is
playing this like a boss. I really do. Sometimes pride
comes before the fall, and and if you're not too
prideful about something, you can actually end up being right
where you wanted to be or further along. But just
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by seemingly taking a few steps backwards. And and while
it may look like he's he's taking a step back,
he he restructures where it fits, it gives him a
one year deal, and he takes he takes this back
up roy. It says to me, he's putting his he
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pushed all his chips into the front end, into the
middle of the table. Listen, I get my my arm fixed, repaired,
I'm throwing, I'm healthy, I'm ready to go. I get
to continue to get healthier and in a backup role,
a limited role, and all the pressure really goes on
cow Shanahan and and really, uh, you know the new
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quarterback Trey Lance. And if i'm if, I'm looking at it,
and I'm a betting man and I'm Jimmy Garoppolo. He
probably did this because he probably believes at some point
in time they call on him to be a part
of this team in a starting role before too long.
Now how too long is I don't know. But if
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that is the case, and that's what ends up playing out,
and he has there's no trade clause and has the
ability to go in there and play his value back
up once again, man, it's a masterful move. If it
plays out the way that it looks like it could
possibly play out, I think it's hilarious. I think Jimmy
Garoppolo has played this. If we're talking about all right,
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who's you know, who's winning this battle this back and forth,
who's winning the negotiation? Jimmy Garoppolo checkmate, just literally called
their bluff. Oh so you guys are ready to move on,
even though I've done some things here that everybody scoffs at.
Multiple years in a row, we've talked about this, there's
been a rumor that they're bringing in another quarterback, or
they go out and trade up a bunch of picks
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to go draft a guy. Multiple years in a row.
Garoppolo never said a thing, never complained about it, never
pulled a Bayker Mayfield said nothing, kept quiet as when
he's healthy, takes him to a super Bowl, when he's
even closer to being healthy, and then ends up getting
banged up, they go to an NFC title game, and
he never said anything, never made a peep, never complained
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about any of that stuff when the team has shown
him multiple times in a row, Hey we think we
could do better. We're gonna go flirt with this guy.
We're gonna go bring this quarterback in, or we're gonna
go draft this guy. And so Jimmy Garoppolo is looking
around going, oh, yeah, okay, I'm gonna go get a surgery.
What's the trade value like now? And then I'm gonna
go ahead and hang out here while you guys figure
figure this whole thing out. And then all of a sudden,
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he's They come back to him and say, okay, let's
try and get a deal done here what bringing back
as a backup quarterback? And I totally agree. I think
at some point, at some point, he's going to get
an opportunity to start games this year. And I think
the whole thing is hilarious how this has turned out
because multiple years in a row they've told him and
showed him, we don't buy into you. We're gonna go
in a different different direction. And now they have to
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buy in, and they did so by bringing him back.
Can I throw this out there? So I remember calling
a forty Niners game when Jimmy G first got there,
and it was during that period where he got traded
during the season from New England. And you know, I
think there were some people who are really excited about
and there were some people who weren't as excited about
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it and weren't necessarily ready to commit to Jimmy G
the way maybe other people within the organization were. Now,
if you were a call he won what the last
five games I think it was that went five and
oh he played pretty well despite the fact that he
just got there right, and so they ended up agreeing
to that you know, extension. And then there's the report
that comes out that, hey, Jimmy G went silent after
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signing that deal. I'll be honest with you, I feel
like there may be some animosity or something going on
since that point, like between the people who maybe weren't
sold on Jimmy G or one as big of a
fan of Jimmy G. And then things kind of all
is working out when Jimmy She is healthy, with the
exception of what one season a couple of years ago
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where they go three and three and he got banged up.
I mean, he's been really good for this organization, for
this team. I mean it's hard to ask for much
more than in two of the last three years, going
to two NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl. And
and yet, you know, to to the to his point,
should he feel, you know, slighted by the organization? Sure,
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what other quarterback in the NFL are we looking at
trying to replace that has done that? I can't think
of one, like, I can't think of one that and
when he's healthy has taken this team to the NFC Championship,
came twice in the Super Bowl once. Now I get
it's all about winning the Super Bowl. It's all that matters,
But there has to be a little bit of grace
here and saying, all right, we can understand why Jimmy
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you would be frustrated because it does feel like since
the time he got here, there's some people who have
never been a fan, or or if we've already kind
of held something against him forever reason. So I just
I tend to get a sensor of feeling that, you know,
Shanahan saying that very reluctantly, And I don't know if
it's a personal thing. Maybe it's a coaching style of
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Kyle Shanahan. Um, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo's off he's drafted
into hard coaching UH style, and Bill Belichick and Josh
McDaniels and those who were there in New England when
he got there. Maybe it has something to do with that.
But it seems like there's a lot of frustration between
the two parts. And it seems like sitting in a
quarterback room where mind you, people don't seem to understand
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you spend hours in the quarterback room. You know the
other quarterbacks better than you know your girlfriend, your wife,
your partner, whatever. You know them better than that. Like
I could have told you back in the day when
I first got into Cleveland, when I was with Derek
Anderson and Ken Dorsey all their idio secrecies, like every
single habit they had, what kind of coffee those guys
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would like or drink, or like, hey, if I'm grabbing something,
I know what to get him because we spent so
much time together break down, filmed one installs, QB school
back in the day. You spend hours with one another.
I mean Kyle Orton, even Tim Tebow, like all the
little things like you spend so much time with one another.
So that's where I just I think I think they
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look at the situation They're like, oh God, this is
gonna be awkward. This is a lot of time, a
lot of time where we're gonna be watching a guy
go play in Trey Lance and we know that we
could probably get more consistent, higher level play from Jimmy
Garo Garoppolo this season right now, and Jimmy has got
to sit behind and watch that and be the one
standing there going here, I am you let me know
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when you want to come to me and if you
guys want to play better football. And the whole thing is,
so who's got who's got more pressure on them right
now going into the season, Rubinsky or Land. I think
Robinsky knows what the what the situation that that that
light at the end of the tunnel, the Dan Campbell
talks about a hard knocks it's not a light, it's
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a freight train buckle down. I think, especially when he
hears the crowd respond to Getty figured the way they do,
I think trailer. You know what my favorite part is
when people go, well, you know, I mean look with
the we know what the forty Niners were doing. Look
what the Chiefs were doing with Alex Smith and Patrick
Mahomes first of all, Trey Lances and Patrick Mahomes. Secondly
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Alex Smith and I love Alex Smith. He Jimmy Garoppolo
has done things in this league that Alex Smith has
not done. And he's taking his team to a super Bowl,
and he's gotten him to that big game, and he's
gotten the conference championship games. It's not even like the
same comp isn't even applicable in this situation. This, this
whole thing. I wonder what the what the leash is
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gonna be like if Kyle Shannon, maybe if he does
hold a grudge Brady, maybe Kyle Shannon says, no, under
no circumstances are we going to Jimmy. It's not happening.
He's not getting playing time and they're just gonna have
to wear it. And if that's the case, aren't you
a little bit more questioning what the Niners are gonna
be like this year? Like just just looking at that
situation Asian seeing how awkward it is. All of a sudden,
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I'm a little bit more skeptical on how good the
forty Niners are gonna be this year. I don't know
the whole thing. I don't think anybody saw that this
was gonna be. How this wrapped up, it was either
was gonna get cut or traded or or who knows what.
Let me throw this question out quickly to you guys.
So that being said, who's the finger pointed at at
the end of the season. If this is a team
that you know, went to the NFC Championship Game last
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year and now they wanted to go to Trey Lance
probably a year early, maybe a little premature. They probably
could have figured a wave of letting Immy g play
and then let Tray Lance take over next year. Um,
I mean, is it Kyle Shanahan. I mean it's because
here's the reality is that they've only won games which
Jimmy Garoppolo has been there as a starter with Kyle Shannahan.
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I think Kyle Shanahan will get the brunt of it.
But I certainly believe that the brunt of that that
pressure will come because you still have Jimmy Garoppolo on
your your squad, So you gotta bring John Lynch into
the scenario because you didn't delete the clear and present
danger of the person you had all that success with. Yeah,
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that's that's what I would say. What what a what
a fun story this has been watching cover is It's
a win win for everybody. I'll tell you that if
Trey Lance does great, it's like, oh wow, well how
will Garoppolow handle this? And if Trey Lance doesn't, it's like,
oh wow, how will Trey Lance handle this? Yeah, it's uh,
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center of, you know, an interesting conversation and a return.
If you were wondering what happened to John Gruden, Uh,
if you were wondering whether or not Jon Gruden has
any aspirations about maybe making a return back to the
NFL at some point. While he spoke yesterday at the
Little Rock Touchdown Club about the situation, the emails that
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came out his firing, etcetera, etcetera, here was the former
Raider's head coach. I'm not gonna uh say anything but
honest things here. I'm ashamed about what has uh come
about in these emails, and I'll make no excuses for
it is just it's it's shameful. But um, I am
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a good person. I believe that I'm I go to church.
I've been married for thirty one years, I've got three
great boys, i still love football. I've made some mistakes,
but I don't think anybody in here hasn't. Uh. And
I just asked for forgiveness and hopefully I get another shot.
I get choked up, you know, because, Uh, there's a
lot of misunderstanding out there right now. What's your read,
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what you hear, what you watch on TV? Hell, I
worked at ESPN for nine years. I worked hard at
that jomb I don't even want to watch the channel
anymore because I don't believe everything is true. Uh, And
I know a lot of it is is just trying
to get people to watch. But I think we got
to get back to reality. And that's why I look
forward to Saturdays, because you're gonna get what you deserve
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when the whistle blows. And we'll see if the Razorbacks
can get after Cincinnati, which I hope they do. Yeah.
Let me tell you something, man, that's how you close
it right there, knowing the audience all right, bringing all
the way back around, apologize, talking about how you went
to church Bury ESPN, and then bring it all the
way back around full circle the Turkey Hall listen. I
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know to is the college expert here, but can I
just help on? Well, he is the college. I'm sorry
you're not but um, let me just start by saying this, Um,
knowing your audience is a great way of putting it,
because I mean, for me, I'm sitting here and you
know what I'm thinking about. It's like, who, like what
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part of the country would it make sense? Let's say,
you know the things that he said and forgiveness, you
know those those you know those emails weren't as bad
as I thought they were, or and I'm still a
good person and I got good kids and I go
to church every Sunday. It sounded like, yeah, it sounds
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it kind of fit, you know, geographically where he was, Um,
you know in the country. I mean, if he was speaking,
if you're speaking in l A County, he'd be wearing
a mask that Um can I just say this crudent
that stuff, the cootie math mask. But if he messed
up the order, you have to cry while you're doing
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the like remorseful apology about the emails. You cry, then
you don't cry after the fact. Like it was such
a quick pivot to but like we play that sound
again real quick and just cut it off a listen
how quick he gets to like the good person part.
And it's the the first one, the first clip. I'm
not gonna say anything but honest things here. I'm ashamed
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about what has uh come about in these emails, and
I'll make no excuses for it's it's shameful. But I
have a question. I believe that I go to church.
I've been married for thirty one years, You've got three
great boys. I still love football. I've made some mistakes.
I don't think anybody I know that that was on
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the Dave Chappelle Show, he would have said something that.
Then I here's here's what I know is I've got
an uncle wood Tammy this. You know, it's like no
one is really trying to say anything meaningful before the butt.
That's just all the stuff they feel like they need
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to say in order to appease whoever it is out there,
whether it's the audience, the listeners, the people that be
what that person who's speaking really wants you to understand.
And here is the second part, So it comes after
the butt, and that's where you could tell he's so
quickly I wanted to move on to I'm a good person.
I go to church. Okay, I'm pretty sure we've had
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some serial killers who also went to church. Not like
use church as the barometer for whether or not you're
a good person. All right, I gotta but I go
to church. I'm not going to justify that as that's
why I'm a good person. I'm sure he believes he's
a good man. Look, and I'm not gonna be one
to sit here and say John Gruden shouldn't get a
second chance in some capacity. The truth of the matter is,
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we already have a difficult time hiring kendidates who are
are worthy or have had the experience, whether they are
in the majority or minority, we already have a hard
time doing that alone. So to give a guy who
did this a second chance as a head coach, to me, no,
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but you if you want to be involved in some
way some capacity, okay, if you want to mentor a
younger head coach, okay. Like I've said this before about
a lot of the legal issues that these players get
involved with for things that they do have to feel
criminal or not. You know, everyone deserves a second chance,
and this just doesn't mean you get that second chance
in the NFL. Like I think it's a it's a privilege,
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it's not a right that you get to go back
to it regardless of your credentials. Like, at some point
there has to be morality. At some point, there has
to be you know, somebody's gonna take a stance and say, yeah,
we get it. You're a good coach and and you're
ashamed of what you did, And we're not gonna throw
a stone at your glass house because we've made mistakes
too in our lives and all that the differences. We're
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not trying to be a head coach again in the NFL.
And that's that's where I think this is getting to
is he's basically trying to already plant the seeds for
making that comeback at some point. And he's fifty nine
years old. So when you look at Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll,
obviously he's gonna a lot of years left out of him.
But why not go to a lower level and coach
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at college or why not go back to something that's
more impactful if you're going to rebuild yourself as a coach,
because someone will give you a chance, someone will give
you an opportunity. I just don't deserve he did, you know,
I don't believe he deserves it right now in the NFL.
But and the way that he was talking, didn't that
kind of sound like a college coach trying to sell
you on on coming to the university or trying to
sell you on the program and all like that's why
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I was I'm hearing him talking to go NFL is
not happening. Nobody's gonna give him another shot. And also
when you see the list of first round picks of
the Raiders after Leatherwood got cut yesterday and you go,
a lot of people were trying to point fingers and say, oh, man,
Mike Mayock, Mike Mayock. This something tells me John Gruden
had his hands all over the early round draft picks
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with the Raiders, And it's well known. That's why there's
a lot of there's a lot of media pundits out
there who actually kind of came to the fence of
Mike Mayock like, hey, that was a more complicated process
in the drafting then, I mean, let's be real, it's
John Gruten. John had the final safe for all of that,
and Dave Ziegler and now Josh McDaniels have basically said, yeah,
we're moving on from all of these players. None of
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these guys fit the scheme. What we're looking for the
character culture we're looking for. And by the way, it's
not a knock on the players as in there they
can't play in the NFL. They can't do it. They
just don't fit with Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler are
looking for. But it also happens to be a little
bit damning in the in the sense that you know,
a first round draft pick on an offensive line that
you think they could use them, they move on from
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in year two, Like I, that's that's a rare, rare,
rare deal. I can't think of another first round pick.
That's what it's been, you know, moved on from two
years or in a second year before you even get
to year two. So it's it's more of an indictment
on on Gruden, as you know, a personnel guy. He
was awful in Tampa. He inherited a great roster there
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built by Tony Dungey, and you know he was He's
kind of bad to some degree with Las Vegas, at
least in regards to drafting, which was his say. He
did have the final say. Um, Obviously, we think he's
not going to be back as an NFL head coach.
Even though he wants to be back. I mean, it
sounded like he may have been alluding to college a
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little bit. You guys don't think it could have been.
I think that part, that last part of what he said,
it almost was like he was almost like f then
fil he was like where it's atage on Saturdays? You know.
And I don't know if it's because of the audience
that he was talking to, but it almost sounded like
he was pro strong college football. He'd still get ten
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million a year in college, so that you get that now.
But here's here's the thing that bothers me about his speech.
You guys know where Jon Gruden's from. It, Yeah, born
and raised in Sandusky, Ohio, you know, and then already
go to college University of Dayton. This this guy's John
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Gruden guy. He's an Ohio guy down there, a little
rock like you're from Ohio. He's trying he's trying to
root for the Razorbacks. And meanwhile, this guy who went
to school near Cincinnati and Dayton, Ohio can't can't pull
for the Bearcats. It's not OI guy. Get out of
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here with that. Yeah, well he knew what he was.
When you're apologizing about what he's apologizing for. I think
he started in the right place. That go bearcats. You
know you can't go with it? List, Okay, if you
all right, if you think that, if we all agree,
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NFL returning as a coach not happening. Maybe college that's
a possibility. What about is a broadcaster? Do you think
a network would bring him back? Obviously in that ESPN
because he just basically took a flamethrower too, I'm right
there in that clip. Um, I don't even want to say.
I'm not going to comment on this. I'm not gonna come.
What are you talking? It feels like I don't think
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it's outside the realm of possibility that a coach who
left the NFL on on difficult circumstances and stories could
make a return of broadcasting. I don't know what's what's
so funny about this? I don't know. I don't know
what you I don't know why you. I'm just saying, man,
you know, like there is there is an avenue, like
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there is a path if Gruden wants to be a
broadcaster again, and we can knock the guy as a
coach and as a personnel guy. I thought he was
a great broadcaster. No, it's not gonna be an sp
but like Gruden was was really uh did did a
fine job as a you know, as an analyst for
for ESPN. I just wonder if there was any possibility
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that a coach um who left under difficult circumstances could
potentially make a return to the broadcasting booth. You know
that would ever be a possibility, But again who knows.
I mean probably not this day and age based and
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the Blowtorch Am five seventy l A sports Fox college
football analyst Petros, What the hell is happening? Good morning,
Good morning, good morning everybody. Hello. Do you guys that's
Row vacation or something? Ye? Okay, yeah, Because people were
texting me like what happened to the show, and I
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was like, I have no idea. They exist on a
different plane than I do. I just show up on Wednesdays. Well,
I mean, I was in uh, Hawaii and I was
listening to you call the Utah State game from altitude.
I got some watch Andy put it down on on Hawaii. No.
I saw Hawaii looked looked okay early and then I
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turned my head and turned back and they were down
like fifty or something. They scored a touchdown and then
they went down by poor timmy change. I know it's terrible.
They looked bad, man, you know who didn't look good either.
The first half was was Utah State. I was. I
was really upset by that outcome there because someone may
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have may have saw that point spread and be like, oh,
Utah State looks like a team that should you will
take care of you con Petros. But your boy, well,
who does Utah State played this week? Obama? Yeah, they
might have slipped through that one a little bit. They
were looking I think they were looking a little bit
forward to Alabama. But that being said, if we are
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going to break down the Utah State Yukon game, I
thought Yukon played hard. They played their ass off. They
lost their starting quarterback, their best receiver, and pretty much
their whole game plan in the first couple series of
the game, and they kind of hung in there and
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played defense and had a great looking little linebacker, not
little in the crap out of the football. Yeah, they
ran the ball well, but Utah States not too interested
in stopping the run either. So anyway that yeah, they
they did look a little lack of daisical in the game,
But I understand with Alabama looming and a team that
didn't look like it could compete with you offensively as
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far as just volume goes uh in front of you.
So we'll see this week. I have h can't state
the Golden Flash. Yeah at Washington, alright, So yeah, the
debut of Klin Dubor. So you you traveled. You were
in Logan, Utah last week, and now you're going to
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be up in Seattle. You know I don't travel. What
do you mean no longer? Are you trying to embarrass
or something? Not? Because I heard you and Alex fouse
to make a joke about how you guys are in
altitude and I thought it was funny. I don't know
if anybody caught it during the broadcast. It was good,
Alex did, It was fine. I'm sure it was hilarious.
It was Hey, look, I go to work. I'm so
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tired of everybody bugging me about where the game. I
called the game where they tell me to call the game? Hey,
what's your hottest topic for the show today? For your show?
I have nothing. That's five in the morning. I have Well,
let's see, LaVar the Dodge doesn't want talking about what
you're interested about. Let's let's do it. Uh. The Dodgers
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and the Mets played last night four to three, I
believe or something was the game or three to two?
The Dodgers dominated in every phase of the game. It
was supposed to be a big series because they're supposed
to run into each other in the playoffs, so everybody
was paying attention. Because of the lack of interest in
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August baseball, this one kind of had people's interests. So
I guess we'll talk about that. Uh. I watched a
cool movie from the seventies by whom Wim Wenders called
An American Friend, which was a different adaptation of a
Thomas H. Ripley book, The books by Patricia Highsmith, like
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the Talent of Mr Ripley. No, no, the other Okay,
I'm sorry, So anything else I don't know? You tell?
I mean, you go ahead, Jonas. Why don't you come
by the studio and see how we call a game
from from the fox? Come get your boy, Brady. I mean,
I don't know what his tactic is. He just he
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just got back from a nice speaking What do you mean.
I thought it was funny they were. They were making
mention of it, and I don't know if anybody caught
that during the altitude during the broadcast, because it's hard
to brief for the players. Broadcasters have no trouble talking
and filling the room with hot air. Well, but that's
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why we would mention the altitude at least. Can I
ask you this, I assume you watched Nebraska Northwestern and
well I was preparing for the real slobber knocker between
Yukon and Utah State. Understand, but but I I assume
you've you've watched and seen kind of what transplant, what
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happened in your opinion, where does this go for Scott Frost.
I don't know, man, I don't know. I mean, this
is this like a few weeks that we're talking about Changer.
I remember, No, I don't know. Nebraska's interesting place football wise,
and he really is one of their favorite sons. Of course,
he is testing them pretty deeply. And we could be
having this conversation about Timmy Chang in a few weeks
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with Jonas, you know and Love and Rainbow way after
the first season. Really, I'm joking, but I don't know.
I think, yeah, I think when it comes to uh, Scott,
I remember, I don't know, what was it like eighteen
or something like that. I was in Illinois doing a
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Nebraska Illinois game on like a Thursday night. Traveled for
that one. Jonas and uh, Mike Riley, who was an old,
really close old friend of mine and our old coach
when I was at USC in the late nineties offensive
coordinated before he took the Oregon State and then the
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Chargers job. Mike Riley was walking around and everybody knew
he was a dead man walking, and everybody talked about
Scott Frost is gonna come and say the program, and
Scott Frost is gonna come from UCF and it's only
a matter of time before Scott Frost changes everything. And
we all felt that way, and everybody thought that it
was a perfect fit, and it worked beautifully. And now
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I saw some stat the other day that Frost would
have to win like his next fifty games to even
match Bo Polini's record. And Bo Polini wasn't good enough
for Nebraska, right, he wasn't the right guy for Nebraska.
They got rid of him. Sure, he was a little
wild and they sent him to Youngstown State. So I
don't know where they go from here. I don't know
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what they do. I no longer know what reality is
for Nebraska football. And I am one of those and
we've had this conversation for years and years. Who is
just devastated about what they did to Frank Solich. I
blame Notre Dame and Brady Quinn Tommy Zimbikowski for the
cutting off the head of the beautiful veer option and
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when they did that, when they when they cut you
can't put the head back on and make a zombie vier.
Why can they bring it back? Because Brady, you of
all people, know that the vier is like a giant tree.
That's like Jonas going and cutting down the Banyan tree.
And don't do it, dude, Well you can't. You can't
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do it because no one wants to come play in
that system anymore. That's not well know what, Well, no
one really did anymore at all. In the no one
does now assuredly baby back. Then you get some running
backs for people who might might have done it. But
now the beauty, the beauty of what Nebraska did longer
than anybody else did. And Brady is right there was
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a recruiting issue. But at the same time, I don't
know they did it with the Macavica brothers like freaked
out walk off in Ohowa, you know. But the other
thing they were doing was getting elite linemen and things
like that and running army offense, an offense you would
run with the team that's not competing for the championship.
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Every year. They ran that with elite athletes, you know,
Lawrence Phillips and guys like that out there running around,
and that's what made it so different and so beautiful
all the way up to the end. To be honest
with you, Frank Solich won nine games and then he
got fired. So I think everybody in Nebraska would go
back to the Vier if they had a choice. They'd
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never let go of Callaghan. They'd never would have gotten
away from coach Osborne's coaching tree. And that's what you
do when you try to be like somebody else and
you lose your identity. Petro's I feel like Scott up
next the b Q News. By the way, I remember
when we I think we were talking to you, um
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you were you had a Nebraska game a couple of
years ago. I think it was early on in Scott
Frost's tenure, and the point was, man, why are they
a preseason top twenty five team? If? Like, what what
gave anybody hope that this team would be anywhere in
the top twenty five coming into this season? And I
think you even mentioned that Scott Frost told you he
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tried to keep everybody's expectations low. Yeah, listen, we're trying
to focus on this and we're trying. I feel like
he had the right expectations going into the job, more
so than anybody else with the program and the fan base,
and now you're seeing him try and tell everybody, don't
give up on us, don't give up on us. But
it feels like everybody has sort of now started to
distance themselves. Trev Alberts came in, there was some back
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and forth as to whether or not he was even
gonna be back this year. It feels like Scott Frost
has had the right mindset this entire time, but it's
the fan base that maybe as an unrealistic expectation for
where the program should be. You know, he is an
interesting guy to talk to, and he is kind of
a quiet guy in a way, but he was really
I mean I remember sitting with him and he was like, look, dude,
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the real black Shirts that show up to watch practice
that are in their fifties. I want to put a
uniform on those guys because we don't have those guys.
You know, our guys do not walk out of the
tunnel and freak everybody out like they used to. And
if that's not happening, then it's not really Nebraska football.
Like I I don't know what this is. I mean,
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I know it's Nebraska football, but it's it's it's tough
to see because every year the expectations are so high.
If you've ever been to Lincoln, Nebraska, it's a really
cool place for football. They deserve a better football team
and program. And it's interesting to me people will go
to Oklahoma and play And I don't know what's so
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different between uh Norman and Lincoln. Maybe that's an idiot
West coast elitist, coastal elite attitude that I have because
everywhere in the Midwest sort of seems the same to me.
But I don't understand why Oklahoma can recruit and Nebraska can.
Does that make sense? Like? How can Iowa have a
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ten ten game kind of win season every year without
any problems or real well, I guess they've had some problems,
but you know what I mean, without a lot of
turnover anything like that. How how come Nebraska can't do it?
What's wrong with Nebraska? I don't know, They just don't
have a foundation in a culture right now, right like
they kind of after obviously they made the transition because
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the first offense you talk um patrols. I do want
to ask you this question because if you actually look
through like the Scott Frost tenure which he first got there,
and whaten was that when he took over, it would
have been when I was out there with coach Riley. Okay,
So what's interesting now is I always feel like coaches
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before the transfer portal had to go through this period
of like weaning guys out, and I kind of vaguely
remember that being sort of the deal, like early on,
like meeting with him calling some games, he was like, yeah,
we gotta get the roster kind of where we needed
to be to do what I'd like to do. And like,
it's funny you mentioned the black Shirts because he said
something along those lines that were similar. I look at
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now with the transfer portal and I wonder if he
had started in two and this was his you know,
last year, maybe where you have the ability to flip
a roster with the transfer portal, because I mean in
that game, you immediately saw trade palm or a wide
receiver who had an impact the other wide receiver who
had an impact in that game, Like you saw that. Okay,
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like this is working out. Casey Thompson played great in
the first half. Hey, I don't have a good year.
I mean I remember Kelly's first game ever. Remember it
was a disaster. Mike Balladi ended up on the sideline
and uh but the struggling the guy got punched, you know,
turn it turned it around faster if he had taken
over last year this year given the rules of the
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transfer portal, well, it depends. I mean, can he worked
the transfer portal? I don't know. I mean, is it
it always the best? I mean, the transfer player, transfer portal.
Just that word has become the cap space of college football.
It like, well, who plays for the Lakers? I don't know,
but they got cap space. I mean, if you you know,
it's like put put that name on the back of
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a jersey that becomes somebody at a certain point, like
the transfer portal becomes flesh and blood and it becomes
a guy that's out there. And I know I'm not
telling you something that you don't already know. But we
just called a game and the coaches were saying, well, yeah,
this guy's safety. We got him. He came in from Florida,
and he's special and he's pushing the defense. And I
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remember watching the first series and watching a guy from
Yukon who probably got recruited by Colgate, and its just
like step on the guy's throat and kick him out
of bounds. And I was like, damn, what happened to
that guy? What happened to transfer portal guy? Oh, he
became flesh and blood. He got dog bount in a
real game. You know, saying we got a guy that
transferred in does not automatically mean you're you're saved. You know,
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they they you know, well we filled a gap there
with a transfer portal. It's like, okay, well, let's let's
play and see what happens. And I think it's gonna
be really interesting, like you mentioned, to see which of
these transfer guys come come, uh, come up and do
well and play a role on their team, and which
ones don't, and which ones uh caused trouble on their teams,
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and which teams did it right and which didn't. And
some places it will become divisive, you know it will. Uh.
So I'm interested to see how it plays out in
the next few weeks with all these kind of newly
formed flipped rosters that you've alluded to. I think it
makes this year extremely interesting because we're gonna see the
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fruits of our labors, and some of them maybe sour.
That doesn't necessarily be bad though, sour sour fruit is
good too. Yeah, come on, is it so? Yeah? Some
of us? I mean it's going bad first. By the way,
By the way, petros Uh, speaking of Nebraska, where does
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before we let you go, where does the neck roll on?
Corey Flesh and your rank amongst your all time favorite gues?
You know, I always think a Cox like Brian Cox.
So Brian Cox is number one? Uh, Corey Flesh and
Carolina's got Georgia Southern this week we want to talk
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about we want to make that joke. What I like
is uh? I like the doughnut of yesteryear that made
it look like you had like some kind of tumor
on your back. So you had you had the the
just a normal neck roll that would like a tube
that like you could use to beat beat somebody with, right, uh,
And then you get the string it and you tie
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it in your shoulder pads. Right. But then you get
the donut like the yeah, like one of those things
that looks like what they would put on like a
bat when you're doing your warm up. If you put
the if you put the doughnut on the back, and
then you look like a real hunched freak and the
nineties with the hangy sleeves and then you get your
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skinny ass arms coming out with the hangy sleeves and
the bands back and that's how you roll. Brady wouldn't
know that because he's a pretty quarterback type. You think
I didn't play week side linebacker back in the day,
you are dead roll, I work out cowboy. I used
to take that thing off on the sidelines, would have
to go and play quarterback. Imagine switching that back to
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see how the cowboy collar we went. The cowboy collar
was like, that's that's some Ohio football for you. A
guy who's playing like weak side linebacker the then he
has to go take it off and go play quarterback.
That never ever has happened in the state of California
high school football ever, never happened. Whatever position does he
played quarterback? And what else will will linebacker? Wait, this
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guy's cleaning up in the backs and yes he is.
Did you really take your neck roll off when you
would go play quarterback? Yeah, I mean there was. I
think we can run Bob and at Brady, you can try.
I have filled that whole quick or with our quarterback
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my freshman year all everything, So I'm not at this Well,
that does happen a lot of the time. You know,
the quarterback is the best player on the team. You
just see that at almost every level. It's kind of
like playing shortstop. So I can see that, Brady, I
can see you run into the sideline and used to
be like what was the movie with Adam Sandler and
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he goes like goes and tackles water Boy. If I
if I throw a pick, dude, I swear to you,
I would be belonging to that guy trying to end
his life. I was so angry about throwing a pick,
and I swear to God used to make that sounds.
The worst thing ever is we saw The water Boy,
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uh the night before we played Stanford. They used to
take us to see movies all the time. And it's
like us we did win. I scored two touchdown. It
was hard for me to shake that nickname for quite
some time. The water because of the shame and fury
that I played with this. Well, pet, I bet you
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talked a lot of trash, didn't you know. I couldn't
breathe I talked trash with my giant, bulged out eyes.
Oh man, I get him. Every once in a while,
I told somebody like I was going to kill their
mother or something. I did tell one guy that his
girlfriend was having sex with another guy on our team.
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It was a U c L A guy And yeah,
and he went and then they took me out. My
package came out of the game. Uh and uh. And
then he had like your package package, you know, like
like the tight end package and uh. And he went
on to have like three sacks in a row, just
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tossing Carson Palmer into the dirt all furious and like
I was like screaming into the skies. And I was like,
maybe I shouldn't have, you know, bad timing there. Oh man.
Well maybe that's why they retired as Jersey dude. I
hope they. Well, I'm gonna haven't. I'm gonna have him
put a chiron on Brady if he works this weekend.
That's hiss. Brady Quinn quarterback slash Will I'm beat, so
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I just push. I just put the neck roll on
and on under that beautiful I'm gonna do shrugs until
I pew. Literally, just give me something heavy. What's all
the veins in his neck? Don't worry about him, I've
been doing shrug was a cowboy collar guy, I believe
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it was. You made the cowboy collar famous and frightening
in the college levels. Well, thank you, It's true it was.
And you know, the cowboy caller you had to put
on under your paths, so it wasn't easy to take
on and put off. Like Brady's neck roll, which was
velcro good. I get him on Twitter at the old
p Petros. We love be able to do it again
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Joe with Lamar Area's Grady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox four Radio. The Jimmy Garoppolo um situation with the
forty Niners is really bizarre. It's it's just awkward. The
(00:22):
whole thing. The whole thing is weird. Kyle Shannon yesterday,
upon the news that came out that Jimmy Garoppolo staying
in San Francisco, he reworked contract, he's gonna be there,
no trade clause included, and all that stuff. Kyle Shanahan
spoke yesterday about the situation not only with Jimmy Garoppolo,
but how this affects Trey Lance and News Starter. We
(00:44):
were always clear to Jimmy that him salary cap wise
and stuff in a backup role um and supporting trade
in that and if that worked for him, that was
a no brainer for us. We just didn't think the
chances of that we're gonna happen, and it ended up
being that way. So when it was also outn't done.
Even though it's pretty shocking to us, we thought it
was a win win for both eyes. We feel very
(01:04):
strongly given the keys to trade. Um, we were really
excited what we thought that could do for a team
as a whole. And we're excited about everything he's done
and all these opportunities has gone throughout this obstins and
and I can't wait to get him started on our
team in Week one. And having Jimmy there is a
backup makes us feel really good because we have a
very we have a starting quarterback as a backup. The
rest of the league had a chance to get him,
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and I'm just so feel so fortunate that he's still
here in that case, man, is the rest of the
league had a tank to get him. Happen To ask
you guys a question before we go like any further,
And I know this is probably one que that you
can answer. When you have a no trade clause, you
can still be traded. It's just mutually agreed upon correct correct. Yeah,
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that's one of the biggest misconceptions with it is that
people think, oh, it's got no trade. I said, I
get traded. It's like, no, he has the right to
refuse the trade if it's not the tea that he
wants to go to. So technically, if something would happen
now that he's under control and our contract with the
forty niners. Again, Um, he could he could just say yeah, no,
I'm not going there, which which is interesting, Like it's
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interesting they gave him that within this one year deal
and one year structure, which San Francisco is probably betting, like, yeah,
this is really unlikely it's gonna happen. But I sense,
I don't know how you listen to Kyle Shanahan when
he says that, I don't want to say it sounds
like sarcasm. It does sound like, you know, there's there's
(02:32):
maybe some animosity there, there's something there, And I don't
know if it's a matter of the fact that had
Jimmy Garoppolo not gotten surgery, he wouldn't be here right now.
We wouldn't be having this conversation. Had Jimmy Garoppolo not
had surgery, he would have been traded. Like that's flat
out the truth, and San Francisco has admitted as such.
So the fact now that he's back, I honestly feel
(02:53):
like it's a problem that Kyle Shanahan doesn't want to acknowledge,
doesn't want to admit, but now it exists, even though
I think it does put their team in a better
position to sustain this season if there's a trade, lance injury,
or even if he plays poorly, like you can go
back to Jimmy g whether It'skyle Shanahan wants to do
that or not, because he's been successful there who I mean,
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I think there's a Again, I think there's a there's
layers to this and and there is that side of it,
and I think that that side of it is sensible.
I mean, to redo your contract to be able to
stay and and be in a you know, accepting place
of this is a backup role for you. Again, I think,
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I think, based under the circumstances, Jimmy Garoppolo is is
playing this like a boss. I really do. Sometimes pride
comes before the fall, and and if you're not too
prideful about something, you can actually end up being right
where you wanted to be or further along. But just
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by seemingly taking a few steps backwards. And and while
it may look like he's he's taking a step back,
he he restructures where it fits, it gives him a
one year deal, and he takes he takes this back
up roy. It says to me, he's putting his he
(04:23):
pushed all his chips into the front end, into the
middle of the table. Listen, I get my my arm fixed, repaired,
I'm throwing, I'm healthy, I'm ready to go. I get
to continue to get healthier and in a backup role,
a limited role, and all the pressure really goes on
cow Shanahan and and really, uh, you know the new
(04:46):
quarterback Trey Lance. And if i'm if, I'm looking at it,
and I'm a betting man and I'm Jimmy Garoppolo. He
probably did this because he probably believes at some point
in time they call on him to be a part
of this team in a starting role before too long.
Now how too long is I don't know. But if
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that is the case, and that's what ends up playing out,
and he has there's no trade clause and has the
ability to go in there and play his value back
up once again, man, it's a masterful move. If it
plays out the way that it looks like it could
possibly play out, I think it's hilarious. I think Jimmy
Garoppolo has played this. If we're talking about all right,
(05:32):
who's you know, who's winning this battle this back and forth,
who's winning the negotiation? Jimmy Garoppolo checkmate, just literally called
their bluff. Oh so you guys are ready to move on,
even though I've done some things here that everybody scoffs at.
Multiple years in a row, we've talked about this, there's
been a rumor that they're bringing in another quarterback, or
they go out and trade up a bunch of picks
(05:53):
to go draft a guy. Multiple years in a row.
Garoppolo never said a thing, never complained about it, never
pulled a Bayker Mayfield said nothing, kept quiet as when
he's healthy, takes him to a super Bowl, when he's
even closer to being healthy, and then ends up getting
banged up, they go to an NFC title game, and
he never said anything, never made a peep, never complained
(06:15):
about any of that stuff when the team has shown
him multiple times in a row, Hey we think we
could do better. We're gonna go flirt with this guy.
We're gonna go bring this quarterback in, or we're gonna
go draft this guy. And so Jimmy Garoppolo is looking
around going, oh, yeah, okay, I'm gonna go get a surgery.
What's the trade value like now? And then I'm gonna
go ahead and hang out here while you guys figure
figure this whole thing out. And then all of a sudden,
(06:37):
he's They come back to him and say, okay, let's
try and get a deal done here what bringing back
as a backup quarterback? And I totally agree. I think
at some point, at some point, he's going to get
an opportunity to start games this year. And I think
the whole thing is hilarious how this has turned out
because multiple years in a row they've told him and
showed him, we don't buy into you. We're gonna go
in a different different direction. And now they have to
(06:59):
buy in, and they did so by bringing him back.
Can I throw this out there? So I remember calling
a forty Niners game when Jimmy G first got there,
and it was during that period where he got traded
during the season from New England. And you know, I
think there were some people who are really excited about
and there were some people who weren't as excited about
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it and weren't necessarily ready to commit to Jimmy G
the way maybe other people within the organization were. Now,
if you were a call he won what the last
five games I think it was that went five and
oh he played pretty well despite the fact that he
just got there right, and so they ended up agreeing
to that you know, extension. And then there's the report
that comes out that, hey, Jimmy G went silent after
(07:43):
signing that deal. I'll be honest with you, I feel
like there may be some animosity or something going on
since that point, like between the people who maybe weren't
sold on Jimmy G or one as big of a
fan of Jimmy G. And then things kind of all
is working out when Jimmy She is healthy, with the
exception of what one season a couple of years ago
(08:04):
where they go three and three and he got banged up.
I mean, he's been really good for this organization, for
this team. I mean it's hard to ask for much
more than in two of the last three years, going
to two NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl. And
and yet, you know, to to the to his point,
should he feel, you know, slighted by the organization? Sure,
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what other quarterback in the NFL are we looking at
trying to replace that has done that? I can't think
of one, like, I can't think of one that and
when he's healthy has taken this team to the NFC Championship,
came twice in the Super Bowl once. Now I get
it's all about winning the Super Bowl. It's all that matters,
But there has to be a little bit of grace
here and saying, all right, we can understand why Jimmy
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you would be frustrated because it does feel like since
the time he got here, there's some people who have
never been a fan, or or if we've already kind
of held something against him forever reason. So I just
I tend to get a sensor of feeling that, you know,
Shanahan saying that very reluctantly, And I don't know if
it's a personal thing. Maybe it's a coaching style of
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Kyle Shanahan. Um, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo's off he's drafted
into hard coaching UH style, and Bill Belichick and Josh
McDaniels and those who were there in New England when
he got there. Maybe it has something to do with that.
But it seems like there's a lot of frustration between
the two parts. And it seems like sitting in a
quarterback room where mind you, people don't seem to understand
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you spend hours in the quarterback room. You know the
other quarterbacks better than you know your girlfriend, your wife,
your partner, whatever. You know them better than that. Like
I could have told you back in the day when
I first got into Cleveland, when I was with Derek
Anderson and Ken Dorsey all their idio secrecies, like every
single habit they had, what kind of coffee those guys
(09:53):
would like or drink, or like, hey, if I'm grabbing something,
I know what to get him because we spent so
much time together break down, filmed one installs, QB school
back in the day. You spend hours with one another.
I mean Kyle Orton, even Tim Tebow, like all the
little things like you spend so much time with one another.
So that's where I just I think I think they
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look at the situation They're like, oh God, this is
gonna be awkward. This is a lot of time, a
lot of time where we're gonna be watching a guy
go play in Trey Lance and we know that we
could probably get more consistent, higher level play from Jimmy
Garo Garoppolo this season right now, and Jimmy has got
to sit behind and watch that and be the one
standing there going here, I am you let me know
(10:36):
when you want to come to me and if you
guys want to play better football. And the whole thing is,
so who's got who's got more pressure on them right
now going into the season, Rubinsky or Land. I think
Robinsky knows what the what the situation that that that
light at the end of the tunnel, the Dan Campbell
talks about a hard knocks it's not a light, it's
(10:57):
a freight train buckle down. I think, especially when he
hears the crowd respond to Getty figured the way they do,
I think trailer. You know what my favorite part is
when people go, well, you know, I mean look with
the we know what the forty Niners were doing. Look
what the Chiefs were doing with Alex Smith and Patrick
Mahomes first of all, Trey Lances and Patrick Mahomes. Secondly
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Alex Smith and I love Alex Smith. He Jimmy Garoppolo
has done things in this league that Alex Smith has
not done. And he's taking his team to a super Bowl,
and he's gotten him to that big game, and he's
gotten the conference championship games. It's not even like the
same comp isn't even applicable in this situation. This, this
whole thing. I wonder what the what the leash is
(11:40):
gonna be like if Kyle Shannon, maybe if he does
hold a grudge Brady, maybe Kyle Shannon says, no, under
no circumstances are we going to Jimmy. It's not happening.
He's not getting playing time and they're just gonna have
to wear it. And if that's the case, aren't you
a little bit more questioning what the Niners are gonna
be like this year? Like just just looking at that
situation Asian seeing how awkward it is. All of a sudden,
(12:02):
I'm a little bit more skeptical on how good the
forty Niners are gonna be this year. I don't know
the whole thing. I don't think anybody saw that this
was gonna be. How this wrapped up, it was either
was gonna get cut or traded or or who knows what.
Let me throw this question out quickly to you guys.
So that being said, who's the finger pointed at at
the end of the season. If this is a team
that you know, went to the NFC Championship Game last
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year and now they wanted to go to Trey Lance
probably a year early, maybe a little premature. They probably
could have figured a wave of letting Immy g play
and then let Tray Lance take over next year. Um,
I mean, is it Kyle Shanahan. I mean it's because
here's the reality is that they've only won games which
Jimmy Garoppolo has been there as a starter with Kyle Shannahan.
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I think Kyle Shanahan will get the brunt of it.
But I certainly believe that the brunt of that that
pressure will come because you still have Jimmy Garoppolo on
your your squad, So you gotta bring John Lynch into
the scenario because you didn't delete the clear and present
danger of the person you had all that success with. Yeah,
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that's that's what I would say. What what a what
a fun story this has been watching cover is It's
a win win for everybody. I'll tell you that if
Trey Lance does great, it's like, oh wow, well how
will Garoppolow handle this? And if Trey Lance doesn't, it's like,
oh wow, how will Trey Lance handle this? Yeah, it's uh,
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center of, you know, an interesting conversation and a return.
If you were wondering what happened to John Gruden, Uh,
if you were wondering whether or not Jon Gruden has
any aspirations about maybe making a return back to the
NFL at some point. While he spoke yesterday at the
Little Rock Touchdown Club about the situation, the emails that
(14:13):
came out his firing, etcetera, etcetera, here was the former
Raider's head coach. I'm not gonna uh say anything but
honest things here. I'm ashamed about what has uh come
about in these emails, and I'll make no excuses for
it is just it's it's shameful. But um, I am
(14:33):
a good person. I believe that I'm I go to church.
I've been married for thirty one years, I've got three
great boys, i still love football. I've made some mistakes,
but I don't think anybody in here hasn't. Uh. And
I just asked for forgiveness and hopefully I get another shot.
I get choked up, you know, because, Uh, there's a
lot of misunderstanding out there right now. What's your read,
(14:55):
what you hear, what you watch on TV? Hell, I
worked at ESPN for nine years. I worked hard at
that jomb I don't even want to watch the channel
anymore because I don't believe everything is true. Uh, And
I know a lot of it is is just trying
to get people to watch. But I think we got
to get back to reality. And that's why I look
forward to Saturdays, because you're gonna get what you deserve
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when the whistle blows. And we'll see if the Razorbacks
can get after Cincinnati, which I hope they do. Yeah.
Let me tell you something, man, that's how you close
it right there, knowing the audience all right, bringing all
the way back around, apologize, talking about how you went
to church Bury ESPN, and then bring it all the
way back around full circle the Turkey Hall listen. I
(15:38):
know to is the college expert here, but can I
just help on? Well, he is the college. I'm sorry
you're not but um, let me just start by saying this, Um,
knowing your audience is a great way of putting it,
because I mean, for me, I'm sitting here and you
know what I'm thinking about. It's like, who, like what
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part of the country would it make sense? Let's say,
you know the things that he said and forgiveness, you
know those those you know those emails weren't as bad
as I thought they were, or and I'm still a
good person and I got good kids and I go
to church every Sunday. It sounded like, yeah, it sounds
(16:23):
it kind of fit, you know, geographically where he was, Um,
you know in the country. I mean, if he was speaking,
if you're speaking in l A County, he'd be wearing
a mask that Um can I just say this crudent
that stuff, the cootie math mask. But if he messed
up the order, you have to cry while you're doing
(16:45):
the like remorseful apology about the emails. You cry, then
you don't cry after the fact. Like it was such
a quick pivot to but like we play that sound
again real quick and just cut it off a listen
how quick he gets to like the good person part.
And it's the the first one, the first clip. I'm
not gonna say anything but honest things here. I'm ashamed
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about what has uh come about in these emails, and
I'll make no excuses for it's it's shameful. But I
have a question. I believe that I go to church.
I've been married for thirty one years, You've got three
great boys. I still love football. I've made some mistakes.
I don't think anybody I know that that was on
(17:33):
the Dave Chappelle Show, he would have said something that.
Then I here's here's what I know is I've got
an uncle wood Tammy this. You know, it's like no
one is really trying to say anything meaningful before the butt.
That's just all the stuff they feel like they need
(17:53):
to say in order to appease whoever it is out there,
whether it's the audience, the listeners, the people that be
what that person who's speaking really wants you to understand.
And here is the second part, So it comes after
the butt, and that's where you could tell he's so
quickly I wanted to move on to I'm a good person.
I go to church. Okay, I'm pretty sure we've had
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some serial killers who also went to church. Not like
use church as the barometer for whether or not you're
a good person. All right, I gotta but I go
to church. I'm not going to justify that as that's
why I'm a good person. I'm sure he believes he's
a good man. Look, and I'm not gonna be one
to sit here and say John Gruden shouldn't get a
second chance in some capacity. The truth of the matter is,
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we already have a difficult time hiring kendidates who are
are worthy or have had the experience, whether they are
in the majority or minority, we already have a hard
time doing that alone. So to give a guy who
did this a second chance as a head coach, to me, no,
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but you if you want to be involved in some
way some capacity, okay, if you want to mentor a
younger head coach, okay. Like I've said this before about
a lot of the legal issues that these players get
involved with for things that they do have to feel
criminal or not. You know, everyone deserves a second chance,
and this just doesn't mean you get that second chance
in the NFL. Like I think it's a it's a privilege,
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it's not a right that you get to go back
to it regardless of your credentials. Like, at some point
there has to be morality. At some point, there has
to be you know, somebody's gonna take a stance and say, yeah,
we get it. You're a good coach and and you're
ashamed of what you did, And we're not gonna throw
a stone at your glass house because we've made mistakes
too in our lives and all that the differences. We're
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not trying to be a head coach again in the NFL.
And that's that's where I think this is getting to
is he's basically trying to already plant the seeds for
making that comeback at some point. And he's fifty nine
years old. So when you look at Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll,
obviously he's gonna a lot of years left out of him.
But why not go to a lower level and coach
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at college or why not go back to something that's
more impactful if you're going to rebuild yourself as a coach,
because someone will give you a chance, someone will give
you an opportunity. I just don't deserve he did, you know,
I don't believe he deserves it right now in the NFL.
But and the way that he was talking, didn't that
kind of sound like a college coach trying to sell
you on on coming to the university or trying to
sell you on the program and all like that's why
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I was I'm hearing him talking to go NFL is
not happening. Nobody's gonna give him another shot. And also
when you see the list of first round picks of
the Raiders after Leatherwood got cut yesterday and you go,
a lot of people were trying to point fingers and say, oh, man,
Mike Mayock, Mike Mayock. This something tells me John Gruden
had his hands all over the early round draft picks
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with the Raiders, And it's well known. That's why there's
a lot of there's a lot of media pundits out
there who actually kind of came to the fence of
Mike Mayock like, hey, that was a more complicated process
in the drafting then, I mean, let's be real, it's
John Gruten. John had the final safe for all of that,
and Dave Ziegler and now Josh McDaniels have basically said, yeah,
we're moving on from all of these players. None of
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these guys fit the scheme. What we're looking for the
character culture we're looking for. And by the way, it's
not a knock on the players as in there they
can't play in the NFL. They can't do it. They
just don't fit with Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler are
looking for. But it also happens to be a little
bit damning in the in the sense that you know,
a first round draft pick on an offensive line that
you think they could use them, they move on from
(21:31):
in year two, Like I, that's that's a rare, rare,
rare deal. I can't think of another first round pick.
That's what it's been, you know, moved on from two
years or in a second year before you even get
to year two. So it's it's more of an indictment
on on Gruden, as you know, a personnel guy. He
was awful in Tampa. He inherited a great roster there
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built by Tony Dungey, and you know he was He's
kind of bad to some degree with Las Vegas, at
least in regards to drafting, which was his say. He
did have the final say. Um, Obviously, we think he's
not going to be back as an NFL head coach.
Even though he wants to be back. I mean, it
sounded like he may have been alluding to college a
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little bit. You guys don't think it could have been.
I think that part, that last part of what he said,
it almost was like he was almost like f then
fil he was like where it's atage on Saturdays? You know.
And I don't know if it's because of the audience
that he was talking to, but it almost sounded like
he was pro strong college football. He'd still get ten
(22:36):
million a year in college, so that you get that now.
But here's here's the thing that bothers me about his speech.
You guys know where Jon Gruden's from. It, Yeah, born
and raised in Sandusky, Ohio, you know, and then already
go to college University of Dayton. This this guy's John
(22:57):
Gruden guy. He's an Ohio guy down there, a little
rock like you're from Ohio. He's trying he's trying to
root for the Razorbacks. And meanwhile, this guy who went
to school near Cincinnati and Dayton, Ohio can't can't pull
for the Bearcats. It's not OI guy. Get out of
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here with that. Yeah, well he knew what he was.
When you're apologizing about what he's apologizing for. I think
he started in the right place. That go bearcats. You
know you can't go with it? List, Okay, if you
all right, if you think that, if we all agree,
(23:37):
NFL returning as a coach not happening. Maybe college that's
a possibility. What about is a broadcaster? Do you think
a network would bring him back? Obviously in that ESPN
because he just basically took a flamethrower too, I'm right
there in that clip. Um, I don't even want to say.
I'm not going to comment on this. I'm not gonna come.
What are you talking? It feels like I don't think
(23:58):
it's outside the realm of possibility that a coach who
left the NFL on on difficult circumstances and stories could
make a return of broadcasting. I don't know what's what's
so funny about this? I don't know. I don't know
what you I don't know why you. I'm just saying, man,
you know, like there is there is an avenue, like
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there is a path if Gruden wants to be a
broadcaster again, and we can knock the guy as a
coach and as a personnel guy. I thought he was
a great broadcaster. No, it's not gonna be an sp
but like Gruden was was really uh did did a
fine job as a you know, as an analyst for
for ESPN. I just wonder if there was any possibility
(24:44):
that a coach um who left under difficult circumstances could
potentially make a return to the broadcasting booth. You know
that would ever be a possibility, But again who knows.
I mean probably not this day and age based and
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the Blowtorch Am five seventy l A sports Fox college
football analyst Petros, What the hell is happening? Good morning,
Good morning, good morning everybody. Hello. Do you guys that's
Row vacation or something? Ye? Okay, yeah, Because people were
texting me like what happened to the show, and I
(26:07):
was like, I have no idea. They exist on a
different plane than I do. I just show up on Wednesdays. Well,
I mean, I was in uh, Hawaii and I was
listening to you call the Utah State game from altitude.
I got some watch Andy put it down on on Hawaii. No.
I saw Hawaii looked looked okay early and then I
(26:29):
turned my head and turned back and they were down
like fifty or something. They scored a touchdown and then
they went down by poor timmy change. I know it's terrible.
They looked bad, man, you know who didn't look good either.
The first half was was Utah State. I was. I
was really upset by that outcome there because someone may
(26:50):
have may have saw that point spread and be like, oh,
Utah State looks like a team that should you will
take care of you con Petros. But your boy, well,
who does Utah State played this week? Obama? Yeah, they
might have slipped through that one a little bit. They
were looking I think they were looking a little bit
forward to Alabama. But that being said, if we are
(27:12):
going to break down the Utah State Yukon game, I
thought Yukon played hard. They played their ass off. They
lost their starting quarterback, their best receiver, and pretty much
their whole game plan in the first couple series of
the game, and they kind of hung in there and
(27:33):
played defense and had a great looking little linebacker, not
little in the crap out of the football. Yeah, they
ran the ball well, but Utah States not too interested
in stopping the run either. So anyway that yeah, they
they did look a little lack of daisical in the game,
But I understand with Alabama looming and a team that
didn't look like it could compete with you offensively as
(27:54):
far as just volume goes uh in front of you.
So we'll see this week. I have h can't state
the Golden Flash. Yeah at Washington, alright, So yeah, the
debut of Klin Dubor. So you you traveled. You were
in Logan, Utah last week, and now you're going to
(28:15):
be up in Seattle. You know I don't travel. What
do you mean no longer? Are you trying to embarrass
or something? Not? Because I heard you and Alex fouse
to make a joke about how you guys are in
altitude and I thought it was funny. I don't know
if anybody caught it during the broadcast. It was good,
Alex did, It was fine. I'm sure it was hilarious.
It was Hey, look, I go to work. I'm so
(28:38):
tired of everybody bugging me about where the game. I
called the game where they tell me to call the game? Hey,
what's your hottest topic for the show today? For your show?
I have nothing. That's five in the morning. I have Well,
let's see, LaVar the Dodge doesn't want talking about what
you're interested about. Let's let's do it. Uh. The Dodgers
(29:02):
and the Mets played last night four to three, I
believe or something was the game or three to two?
The Dodgers dominated in every phase of the game. It
was supposed to be a big series because they're supposed
to run into each other in the playoffs, so everybody
was paying attention. Because of the lack of interest in
(29:24):
August baseball, this one kind of had people's interests. So
I guess we'll talk about that. Uh. I watched a
cool movie from the seventies by whom Wim Wenders called
An American Friend, which was a different adaptation of a
Thomas H. Ripley book, The books by Patricia Highsmith, like
(29:46):
the Talent of Mr Ripley. No, no, the other Okay,
I'm sorry, So anything else I don't know? You tell?
I mean, you go ahead, Jonas. Why don't you come
by the studio and see how we call a game
from from the fox? Come get your boy, Brady. I mean,
I don't know what his tactic is. He just he
(30:07):
just got back from a nice speaking What do you mean.
I thought it was funny they were. They were making
mention of it, and I don't know if anybody caught
that during the altitude during the broadcast, because it's hard
to brief for the players. Broadcasters have no trouble talking
and filling the room with hot air. Well, but that's
(30:27):
why we would mention the altitude at least. Can I
ask you this, I assume you watched Nebraska Northwestern and
well I was preparing for the real slobber knocker between
Yukon and Utah State. Understand, but but I I assume
you've you've watched and seen kind of what transplant, what
(30:48):
happened in your opinion, where does this go for Scott Frost.
I don't know, man, I don't know. I mean, this
is this like a few weeks that we're talking about Changer.
I remember, No, I don't know. Nebraska's interesting place football wise,
and he really is one of their favorite sons. Of course,
he is testing them pretty deeply. And we could be
having this conversation about Timmy Chang in a few weeks
(31:11):
with Jonas, you know and Love and Rainbow way after
the first season. Really, I'm joking, but I don't know.
I think, yeah, I think when it comes to uh, Scott,
I remember, I don't know, what was it like eighteen
or something like that. I was in Illinois doing a
(31:32):
Nebraska Illinois game on like a Thursday night. Traveled for
that one. Jonas and uh, Mike Riley, who was an old,
really close old friend of mine and our old coach
when I was at USC in the late nineties offensive
coordinated before he took the Oregon State and then the
(31:52):
Chargers job. Mike Riley was walking around and everybody knew
he was a dead man walking, and everybody talked about
Scott Frost is gonna come and say the program, and
Scott Frost is gonna come from UCF and it's only
a matter of time before Scott Frost changes everything. And
we all felt that way, and everybody thought that it
was a perfect fit, and it worked beautifully. And now
(32:15):
I saw some stat the other day that Frost would
have to win like his next fifty games to even
match Bo Polini's record. And Bo Polini wasn't good enough
for Nebraska, right, he wasn't the right guy for Nebraska.
They got rid of him. Sure, he was a little
wild and they sent him to Youngstown State. So I
don't know where they go from here. I don't know
(32:38):
what they do. I no longer know what reality is
for Nebraska football. And I am one of those and
we've had this conversation for years and years. Who is
just devastated about what they did to Frank Solich. I
blame Notre Dame and Brady Quinn Tommy Zimbikowski for the
cutting off the head of the beautiful veer option and
(32:59):
when they did that, when they when they cut you
can't put the head back on and make a zombie vier.
Why can they bring it back? Because Brady, you of
all people, know that the vier is like a giant tree.
That's like Jonas going and cutting down the Banyan tree.
And don't do it, dude, Well you can't. You can't
(33:20):
do it because no one wants to come play in
that system anymore. That's not well know what, Well, no
one really did anymore at all. In the no one
does now assuredly baby back. Then you get some running
backs for people who might might have done it. But
now the beauty, the beauty of what Nebraska did longer
than anybody else did. And Brady is right there was
(33:40):
a recruiting issue. But at the same time, I don't
know they did it with the Macavica brothers like freaked
out walk off in Ohowa, you know. But the other
thing they were doing was getting elite linemen and things
like that and running army offense, an offense you would
run with the team that's not competing for the championship.
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Every year. They ran that with elite athletes, you know,
Lawrence Phillips and guys like that out there running around,
and that's what made it so different and so beautiful
all the way up to the end. To be honest
with you, Frank Solich won nine games and then he
got fired. So I think everybody in Nebraska would go
back to the Vier if they had a choice. They'd
(34:24):
never let go of Callaghan. They'd never would have gotten
away from coach Osborne's coaching tree. And that's what you
do when you try to be like somebody else and
you lose your identity. Petro's I feel like Scott up
next the b Q News. By the way, I remember
when we I think we were talking to you, um
(34:44):
you were you had a Nebraska game a couple of
years ago. I think it was early on in Scott
Frost's tenure, and the point was, man, why are they
a preseason top twenty five team? If? Like, what what
gave anybody hope that this team would be anywhere in
the top twenty five coming into this season? And I
think you even mentioned that Scott Frost told you he
(35:07):
tried to keep everybody's expectations low. Yeah, listen, we're trying
to focus on this and we're trying. I feel like
he had the right expectations going into the job, more
so than anybody else with the program and the fan base,
and now you're seeing him try and tell everybody, don't
give up on us, don't give up on us. But
it feels like everybody has sort of now started to
distance themselves. Trev Alberts came in, there was some back
(35:28):
and forth as to whether or not he was even
gonna be back this year. It feels like Scott Frost
has had the right mindset this entire time, but it's
the fan base that maybe as an unrealistic expectation for
where the program should be. You know, he is an
interesting guy to talk to, and he is kind of
a quiet guy in a way, but he was really
I mean I remember sitting with him and he was like, look, dude,
(35:52):
the real black Shirts that show up to watch practice
that are in their fifties. I want to put a
uniform on those guys because we don't have those guys.
You know, our guys do not walk out of the
tunnel and freak everybody out like they used to. And
if that's not happening, then it's not really Nebraska football.
Like I I don't know what this is. I mean,
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I know it's Nebraska football, but it's it's it's tough
to see because every year the expectations are so high.
If you've ever been to Lincoln, Nebraska, it's a really
cool place for football. They deserve a better football team
and program. And it's interesting to me people will go
to Oklahoma and play And I don't know what's so
(36:33):
different between uh Norman and Lincoln. Maybe that's an idiot
West coast elitist, coastal elite attitude that I have because
everywhere in the Midwest sort of seems the same to me.
But I don't understand why Oklahoma can recruit and Nebraska can.
Does that make sense? Like? How can Iowa have a
(36:54):
ten ten game kind of win season every year without
any problems or real well, I guess they've had some problems,
but you know what I mean, without a lot of
turnover anything like that. How how come Nebraska can't do it?
What's wrong with Nebraska? I don't know, They just don't
have a foundation in a culture right now, right like
they kind of after obviously they made the transition because
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the first offense you talk um patrols. I do want
to ask you this question because if you actually look
through like the Scott Frost tenure which he first got there,
and whaten was that when he took over, it would
have been when I was out there with coach Riley. Okay,
So what's interesting now is I always feel like coaches
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before the transfer portal had to go through this period
of like weaning guys out, and I kind of vaguely
remember that being sort of the deal, like early on,
like meeting with him calling some games, he was like, yeah,
we gotta get the roster kind of where we needed
to be to do what I'd like to do. And like,
it's funny you mentioned the black Shirts because he said
something along those lines that were similar. I look at
(38:00):
now with the transfer portal and I wonder if he
had started in two and this was his you know,
last year, maybe where you have the ability to flip
a roster with the transfer portal, because I mean in
that game, you immediately saw trade palm or a wide
receiver who had an impact the other wide receiver who
had an impact in that game, Like you saw that. Okay,
(38:23):
like this is working out. Casey Thompson played great in
the first half. Hey, I don't have a good year.
I mean I remember Kelly's first game ever. Remember it
was a disaster. Mike Balladi ended up on the sideline
and uh but the struggling the guy got punched, you know,
turn it turned it around faster if he had taken
over last year this year given the rules of the
(38:45):
transfer portal, well, it depends. I mean, can he worked
the transfer portal? I don't know. I mean, is it
it always the best? I mean, the transfer player, transfer portal.
Just that word has become the cap space of college football.
It like, well, who plays for the Lakers? I don't know,
but they got cap space. I mean, if you you know,
it's like put put that name on the back of
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a jersey that becomes somebody at a certain point, like
the transfer portal becomes flesh and blood and it becomes
a guy that's out there. And I know I'm not
telling you something that you don't already know. But we
just called a game and the coaches were saying, well, yeah,
this guy's safety. We got him. He came in from Florida,
and he's special and he's pushing the defense. And I
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remember watching the first series and watching a guy from
Yukon who probably got recruited by Colgate, and its just
like step on the guy's throat and kick him out
of bounds. And I was like, damn, what happened to
that guy? What happened to transfer portal guy? Oh, he
became flesh and blood. He got dog bount in a
real game. You know, saying we got a guy that
transferred in does not automatically mean you're you're saved. You know,
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they they you know, well we filled a gap there
with a transfer portal. It's like, okay, well, let's let's
play and see what happens. And I think it's gonna
be really interesting, like you mentioned, to see which of
these transfer guys come come, uh, come up and do
well and play a role on their team, and which
ones don't, and which ones uh caused trouble on their teams,
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and which teams did it right and which didn't. And
some places it will become divisive, you know it will. Uh.
So I'm interested to see how it plays out in
the next few weeks with all these kind of newly
formed flipped rosters that you've alluded to. I think it
makes this year extremely interesting because we're gonna see the
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fruits of our labors, and some of them maybe sour.
That doesn't necessarily be bad though, sour sour fruit is
good too. Yeah, come on, is it so? Yeah? Some
of us? I mean it's going bad first. By the way,
By the way, petros Uh, speaking of Nebraska, where does
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before we let you go, where does the neck roll on?
Corey Flesh and your rank amongst your all time favorite gues?
You know, I always think a Cox like Brian Cox.
So Brian Cox is number one? Uh, Corey Flesh and
Carolina's got Georgia Southern this week we want to talk
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about we want to make that joke. What I like
is uh? I like the doughnut of yesteryear that made
it look like you had like some kind of tumor
on your back. So you had you had the the
just a normal neck roll that would like a tube
that like you could use to beat beat somebody with, right, uh,
And then you get the string it and you tie
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it in your shoulder pads. Right. But then you get
the donut like the yeah, like one of those things
that looks like what they would put on like a
bat when you're doing your warm up. If you put
the if you put the doughnut on the back, and
then you look like a real hunched freak and the
nineties with the hangy sleeves and then you get your
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skinny ass arms coming out with the hangy sleeves and
the bands back and that's how you roll. Brady wouldn't
know that because he's a pretty quarterback type. You think
I didn't play week side linebacker back in the day,
you are dead roll, I work out cowboy. I used
to take that thing off on the sidelines, would have
to go and play quarterback. Imagine switching that back to
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see how the cowboy collar we went. The cowboy collar
was like, that's that's some Ohio football for you. A
guy who's playing like weak side linebacker the then he
has to go take it off and go play quarterback.
That never ever has happened in the state of California
high school football ever, never happened. Whatever position does he
played quarterback? And what else will will linebacker? Wait, this
(42:51):
guy's cleaning up in the backs and yes he is.
Did you really take your neck roll off when you
would go play quarterback? Yeah, I mean there was. I
think we can run Bob and at Brady, you can try.
I have filled that whole quick or with our quarterback
(43:12):
my freshman year all everything, So I'm not at this Well,
that does happen a lot of the time. You know,
the quarterback is the best player on the team. You
just see that at almost every level. It's kind of
like playing shortstop. So I can see that, Brady, I
can see you run into the sideline and used to
be like what was the movie with Adam Sandler and
(43:32):
he goes like goes and tackles water Boy. If I
if I throw a pick, dude, I swear to you,
I would be belonging to that guy trying to end
his life. I was so angry about throwing a pick,
and I swear to God used to make that sounds.
The worst thing ever is we saw The water Boy,
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uh the night before we played Stanford. They used to
take us to see movies all the time. And it's
like us we did win. I scored two touchdown. It
was hard for me to shake that nickname for quite
some time. The water because of the shame and fury
that I played with this. Well, pet, I bet you
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talked a lot of trash, didn't you know. I couldn't
breathe I talked trash with my giant, bulged out eyes.
Oh man, I get him. Every once in a while,
I told somebody like I was going to kill their
mother or something. I did tell one guy that his
girlfriend was having sex with another guy on our team.
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It was a U c L A guy And yeah,
and he went and then they took me out. My
package came out of the game. Uh and uh. And
then he had like your package package, you know, like
like the tight end package and uh. And he went
on to have like three sacks in a row, just
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tossing Carson Palmer into the dirt all furious and like
I was like screaming into the skies. And I was like,
maybe I shouldn't have, you know, bad timing there. Oh man.
Well maybe that's why they retired as Jersey dude. I
hope they. Well, I'm gonna haven't. I'm gonna have him
put a chiron on Brady if he works this weekend.
That's hiss. Brady Quinn quarterback slash Will I'm beat, so
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I just push. I just put the neck roll on
and on under that beautiful I'm gonna do shrugs until
I pew. Literally, just give me something heavy. What's all
the veins in his neck? Don't worry about him, I've
been doing shrug was a cowboy collar guy, I believe
(45:40):
it was. You made the cowboy collar famous and frightening
in the college levels. Well, thank you, It's true it was.
And you know, the cowboy caller you had to put
on under your paths, so it wasn't easy to take
on and put off. Like Brady's neck roll, which was
velcro good. I get him on Twitter at the old
p Petros. We love be able to do it again
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