November 11, 2021 • 47 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington talk about Odell Beckham Jr. mulling over his offers. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer weighs in on journalistic integrity when it comes to the Dalvin Cook story and gives the latest on Odell Beckham Jr. Plus, it's time for the guys to hand out their Mideseason Awards.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with LaVar arian Rady Quinn and Joe mis knocks
on Fox Sports Radio week ten in the NFL kicks
off tonight. That all that one breath? Huh? What's that? Brows?
And god damn you hit it in one breath? But
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is he going breathe now? Listen man, he breathed through
his ears. I've talked about this. That is weird, like
almost like gills like folto gila, all right, that too.
I have a burnt as hand right now. Thanks thanks
to When when do you want to hot coffee? When
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do you want to get into that on the air?
Just you know, I'm just saying, you know, we got
you know Lee, It's very caring. He's a very caring person.
I was in the middle of of of nuking my
my coffee so that it would be a little hotter
than what it was. My phone is ringing, I got
my stuff in my hand. I'm trying to grab it
the phone. This next thing, you know, half of my
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s is all over the place, most of it is
on my hand. My hand is like you know, probably
gonna blister up in a few minutes. It's all God,
it was hot. I'm woke. Oh I like my hot
bro hot hot. I want my Joe hot it. I
could tell the bar was pissed. I could tell what
he was pissed. I just tried to listen to let
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him cool off a little bit. And see how quick
I stay stuff off though I got kids like you
can't stay mad quick, stayed bad long. It's it's no good. Yeah,
it does no good for you. And now will you
sue lead to lap for scolding your hand? Remember back
in the day. I'm just saying, like back in the day,
I am in the workplace right now. Though you know
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what I mean that I could, I could that type
of how much? How much did that lady? Wasn't a
lady who sued McDonald's one. She got millions for that?
Oh yeah, dude, hold on, let me look at up,
Let me look at I got changed my mind. No, no, no, no,
I'm saying I know she got millions. Like it's not
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let's let's go live to our I know how much
the woman made off burning herself with coffee from McDonald's
inside or lead to laugh deservedly? So she made three
million dollars three million dollars in punitive damages for the
burns she suffered. LaVar, we've got a case. Let's do
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it to join up. Man. Now, let me ask you that.
What do you think offers were out there? What if
they told, all right, we'll give you one point five
in lifetime McDonald's no. The way she lived in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, that three million back in oh yeah, oh yeah,
she probably spent that join in a month. She's running
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that thing, probably built a mansion off those somebody somebody
caught that on on the next mark it closure. Yeah,
that's all. Forget about everything that. Hey, look, you forget
about everything else. I go with your purchases. You thought,
oh I had enough for the purchase. That just didn't
realize I had to maintain them. What do you mean
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there's a mortgage? Wait? Wait, hold on the house cost
at one point five? I thought that was it. You
got to pay on the taxes and the electric and
the gas and water, all that stuff. You didn't know
that three million bucks insurance. You know it could go
pretty quick, bro, three million could go quick? Why you
can she's a millionaire. Now, um, I'm gonna try to
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get mindo. Yeah, I get let's work together on this. Yeah,
but the law offices of the Quox Now we will
get it. We'll get it done here on Fox Sports Red.
You are sold. Now here's the here's the thing. Yes,
we're excited about Thursday night for yeah. Yes, And I
mentioned that there's you know, hundreds of affiliates and a
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bunch of people that are listening to the show. The
one person I can assure you is not listening to
the show, Brady Quinn, is Odell Beckham Jr. Because he
is pulling through offers right now. According to reports, all
the all those offers from from Odell Beckham that are
out there on the table. I mean, if I hear
one more report about this team is interested, that coach
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is interested. He's got insiders at all angles from all areas.
Given a different team. I've heard Patriots, Saints, Packers, Chiefs,
eight teams, Seahawks, Russell Wilson and Sean Paytner calling him good.
I'll make him up, the Toronto Argonauts, the l A Lakers,
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uh and uh, you know the Notre Dame fighting Irish
Like it is ridiculous. The amount of rumors that are
out there and all the interest in Odell Beckham Jr. Dude,
you should have just stayed in Cleveland, Like what can
I say something very quickly to that as well? And
and historical terms or or in historical fashion, when somebody
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is considered to be oh my gosh, I can't believe
he made it to the open market. Data is first
of all, first and foremost. You never make it through waivers. Like,
let's start right there. You never make it through waivers.
I don't care if you said I'm not playing for you,
I'm not doing this. You never have an analogy for this,
all right. This. Secondly, if you so happen someway somehow
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are bad enough as a player to make it through waivers,
because that's what it is. If you're bad enough, something
about you said, we are not claiming this guy. You
make it through waivers and you're on the free market.
Do you know how quickly you get scooped up? You
know how quickly that scoop up it, that scoop up game.
I've seen it happen in the club. Okay, okay, so
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stop right there, stop right there. This is the analogy.
Come on, it could be a bar, it could be
a club. Come on here, we all know how this works.
You walk into that joint back in your single days, right,
and you see her and you are bee lining to her.
Okay's but that's what I'm saying, is like she is
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getting that best first shot, right, she's the first one.
You're going in easy, and you are by the way.
You are not leaving that side until get it done
well that or you fund out something. There might be
some baggage something. There might be some baggage, and you're like, oh,
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let's pivot, let's go this way, and now you're moving on,
like to your point about getting claimed off waivers. Okay,
that like when we've all been there, man bar club, whatever,
when you see that one that you're like, I can't
believe this has happened. I can't believe it's possible. You're
locking it down like you are by her side the
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rest of the night. You might even go buy one
of those cheap chains with like Jonas across the property Jonas. Uh.
That would literally be like how it used to be
back in the day. But if you see that player
go unclaimed, it is like that. All right, you had
a nice little conversation, then you came to realize, like
she some weird stuff. She's crazy, she's crazy, and she
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all of a sudden was grabbing you like you couldn't
leave outside and you were scared, and yeah, you couldn't
go to bathroom. I don't wanna die. I mean, she's
a note. You know, when you wake up the next morning,
she's leaving you a note and you're going, what the
hell just happened? Last night's standing out and the problem?
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But that's atally here that door, that door closed, and
it was a woman behind you in that rest room
and it was her. Ten you crazy? So so who
is the who's the ten in question? Here? For the
other is its the question is who're standing in the restaurant?
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Just got crept up about because so New Orleans has
to have everything to do with the fact that oh
b J went to l s U. He wants to
get back down in that area because you can't think
that he'd be looking at the Saints outside of the
fact he would be the guy. Michael Thomas is now
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out for the season, and we know Sean McVeigh, whether
Drew Brees was in there or not, created game plans
to get the ball to Michael Thomas. But if you're
Odell Beckham, like, how can you be looking at Trevor
Simeon and saying, yeah, that's comparable to what I would
get from you know, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers.
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I mean, you're talking about a dramatic drop off, regardless
of the pole, from your days at l s U
and being back in Louisiana or Sean Payton and in
the brilliance that he has as a play caller. I
just like someone made the analogy. You know, people are
like shopping for a used car and like, Odell Beckham's
that used car. But I was also kind of like, well,
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is he or is like is the quarterback or the
team he's looking at kind of like that used car,
Like he's got to figure out what he wants to
jump into to drive the rest of the way this season,
And it's kind of pivotal I think for his career.
If he goes to a team where he just you know,
they kind of fizzle out, he falls by the wayside,
he's an afterthought. If they're a team that's still playing
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in the playoffs and they maybe make a little bit
of a run and he's a part of that. Everyone's
gonna see it. Everyone's gonna remember for next season, assuming
he signs, you know, a one year deal to finish
out this year. One of the angles that I saw
out there was somebody said, well, you know, he's finally
he's taking his time because he's finally getting his opportunity
to be a free agent. It's like, well, we've talked
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about this before. The best players never become free agents, right, Like,
they can't. They can become free agents, it just but
to become a free agent this way is far more
extreme than if a a goat of some sort became
like Jerry Rice became a free agent. Like you know,
different guys have become free agents at point in times
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in their in their careers. But this these circumstances make
it different. That's that's what it is. So to your point,
guys that are are really worth their weight do not
become free agents this way. It would have had to have
have been something very extreme that made them a free agent.
In most cases that they became a free agent through
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extreme circumstances, like like a Lawrence Phillips. Right, chances are
you do not want to touch that product because it's
damaged goods in some way. For it goes back to
Brady's original point in the club, there's something wrong. There's
something and you're now looking at yourself and you're saying,
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because every coach and every organization gets a guy and
they believe they can be the one that changes it around,
like God, we can use him the right way, we
can get it right with him. And then but then
you look at the circumstances surrounding it. These issues existed
in New York. That's why New York part ways, if
people are recollecting correctly, there were there issues with him
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and and just like the emotions and different things like that.
Someone's call it passion, whatever you wanna call it, but
there was discord. Then the same thing happens in Cleveland,
but now it's a it's a hem versus him thing,
and it's what your quarterback. Well, what makes this even more,
you know, kind of curious, is the dad getting involved.
So now here we go back to something that that
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me saying, dad's and parents getting involved can be damaging. Right,
his daddy got involved. There's something that's not right here.
And if you're taking a chance on this situation at
this point, in time in your season. If you are
a contender, this is a dangerous move. If you are
not a contender, this is a dangerous moves Like, well,
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how is it a dangerous move if you're not a contender,
Because if you are building chemistry, like say the Jets,
they're trying to find that chemistry. You got a guy
like Silo who wants to build that culture. You do
not want anything that's gonna put you back at what's
the point? What's the point of bringing him in. There's
no reason for me to go three steps back if
I'm trying to go five, six, seven steps forward. It
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just doesn't make sense. It's quickly shows. It's almost like
a virus that gets in your locker room and spreads,
you know, not that we would know anything about that,
damn how dare we? By the way? You know? What's
I do wonder because a lot of maybe they'll never
come out and speak honestly about it, but people in
the NFL, because it does feel like outside of people
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in the league, Odell Beckham is more highly thought of
than guys in because this whole well, yeah, this whole,
this whole conversation about well, you know, he just he
just wasn't used correctly in Cleveland, like he's missing multiple games,
he's not even on the team anymore, and he still
leads them in targets. So it's not like they didn't
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try and get him the ball like this idea. They
just didn't try and get him the ball. They weren't
even know that. I didn't even know. He still leads
the team and targets and he's not on the team anymore,
and he miss Moore, wouldn't think You wouldn't think that,
especially off of the video Dad Daddy sent. Yeah, right, Yeah,
I don't know. It's just the whole thing is very
very strange. But who knows. Maybe we'll have a signing
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before the end of the show today, maybe not because
now reportedly it's going to take several days. I'm just
telling you, if if I got a divorce today, if
I had a divorce to day, I would not clear waivers. Yeah,
that wouldn't have to take that wouldn't have to take
a day or two to And I ain't even that pretty,
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you know what I mean, But I would not clear
waivers happy. Yeah, that that being said, I think you
should want to clear waivers to take some time for yourself.
You know what I mean, like, hey, I want you,
but not just what I mean, like you don't want
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to you don't want to get tied up. And it's
something right when you walk into the bar, you know,
like my head and have some fun. We are we
are straight over. You're talking about get claimed and scooped
up in the bar. That is the only place might
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need to like make some like put out there some contingency.
I will not go to this tape. I will not
go to this taste and this and do the you know,
if you want to negotiate with me, meet me in Vegas.
You know that's that's we could get an annulment. Be
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Right now, we welcome in Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter
for the mm QB kind enough to hang out with
us here every single week. Get him on Twitter at
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Albert Brier, Albert, what's happening? How's your Thursday? I'm good,
I'm good. How good? We just had a spirited conversation,
a debate if you will, about the situation Dalvin Cook
and the how Adam Schefter is getting heat from some
people saying that he didn't really report on both sides.
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He gave Dalvin cook side and then later came back
and gave the side of the accuser in this situation,
and then the conversation, actually you're perfect have on right
now afterwards, because how do you feel about Adam Schefter's
handling of it as an insider or reporter? Is there
the difference between the two and how this whole story
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broke down? Yeah? I mean, I you know, I respect
at him a lot, and I've known at him a
long time. I I you know, I think like one
thing about this whole situation, you know, I I think
we didn't learn in two thousand and fourteen how to
handle these sorts of things, um, you know, and then
then shame on us, you know, because I think for
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me at least, like having to cover the Ray Rice thing,
having to cover the Adrian Peterson thing, and having to
cover the Greg Heart you think all those at once,
right like when you get into this, and I'm sure
it's the same for you guys being doing doing what
you're doing now, you're not signing up to cover those
sorts of things, right, And so you know, for a
lot of us there's like a learning curve and and
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and trying to figure out, okay, like what's the right
way to handle this? And um, you know you learned
about it like when you're in school and how to
how to deal with these sorts of things. But um,
if you're covering sports, you don't really have the day
to day you know, professional practice doing it. And so
you know, I I certainly you know, learned in two
thousand and fourteen that, um, the things are very very
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they take an incredible amount You have taken an incredible
amount of care and covering these things because they are
so sensitive and there's so many people that are affected
by them. And it's not just that people involved, but
it's other people that have been involved in in cases
like them. You know, when they see the way you
cover it, they can be affected by it. And so, um,
you know, I think just being slow and steady on
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those sorts of stories is usually a good policy. Um.
And there's always you know, a rush to be first
with this or that but in stories like that, um,
you know, I think that just being sensitive to everything
that's going on, and you know, not convicting people before
they have their chance, you know, and not and not
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going with things without getting both sides of the story.
You know, it's always important, but it's even more important
when you're covering stories. Is that for an insider? Albert?
Or is an insider? Is that what you just described?
I have a reporter from the reporting standpoint or is
that an insider? So when we talk about ray Rice,
the person an insider would say, I talked to Ray Rice.
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So the integrity of what that insider does is to
report accurately what they got from Ray Rice. That's what
makes them an inside er, correct, right? Yeah, And there's
a difference, um, you know, And there are different jobs
that have different demands on them in our in our
line of work, and I think like with an insider, um,
you know, the difference is, you know, your job is
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to get information, and like with those sorts of jobs,
a lot of times the information that you get is
information that would be out there anyway. You're just getting
it ahead of everybody else. Like where like with you know,
what I would consider like the more investigative type of reporting.
That's different. You know, in a lot of in a
lot of cases, you're getting stuff that people don't want
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out there, if you understand what I'm saying, where like
insider information is more are direct from the source. It's
gonna be stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be stuff that's eventually
gonna eventually may get out there anyway, it's just that
it goes to one person um first, Whereas the investigative
investigative stuff is stuff that may not see the light
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of day unless it's unless the reporter gets to it. Right,
is getting the information that other people don't want out
would you say? Would you say, in the sense of
being an insider, the integrity of what you get informationally speaking,
is if if I got information from Albert Brier, but
Albert Brier says, I did not say that, that is
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not what I said. That is Now you've now breached
what an insider does, which is getting the information from
the person or the camp that's directly connected to what's
taking place. Correct. Trust is the number one thing in
all of these for an insider. Yeah, you know, and
I know with everybody, I mean, like I I think
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it's important in any job that you do. That's it's
not art, I mean, I I think it's it's vital.
You know, so much of what we do and so
much of what I do is based on the relationships
I have, And if I can't build trust with people,
then I'm not going to be able to do my
job at a high level, you know. And that's that's
the bottom line. Like I have to establish trust with
people and I have to be able to That's how
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you get information out of people, right, is that they
trust that you're gonna do the right thing with it
and you're gonna and and that you're going to um
at the end of the day, maybe you're not gonna
do exactly what they want, but like you're going to
be fair and you're going to tell the truth as
you know it, you know, and so UM. You know.
I've always thought like those I mean, trust and truth
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through the two two things that like need to be
kind of a guiding light. Like when it comes to
the way we are prusts you know, important thing and
getting information um and being able to um, you know,
being able to kind of get that out of people.
Then truth is you know, important because you know, the
general public isn't going to take what you say seriously
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unless you have a consistent um track record of telling
the truth and and and why and and being right
when you're saying there. And it's the difference between making predictions,
of course, and reporting on things, you know what I mean,
there's levels of truth as well. But that's that's that's
a large conversation. But Albert, why is why is Adam
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Schefter in trouble? Then? If if he's an insider and
he's just doing his job because he's a puppet for
whoever tells him anything, why is he apologizing? Why is
this an issue at all? Why? Why is LaVar taking
a stance of Hey, he's an insider, he's just doing
his job. Why does he have to apologize for anything? Well?
Right here, here's where it is, okay, because and I
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think this is what social media has done. Is like
social media, like so you go back twenty years and
I started in newspapers, right, so like twenty years ago,
like you it have there's it was like a twenty
four hour news side. There was a twenty four hour
news cycle, so basically it was I'd have all day
to work on my story, and then you know, I
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have a deadline that I'm working towards, and then at
the end of the day, I gather as much information
as I can and boom, here's a story with a
half dozen people I've talked to, you know, versus where
it is now where it's just like every nugget of
information has value. So it's just you get information, you
put it out. You get information, you put it out.
And so now instead of talking to six or seven
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people like you might over a day to do a
story coming on the newspaper, you might talk to one
person and boom, it's out there on the internet. And
in a lot of cases, doing things that way is
relatively harmless, right, Like if we're talking about this players
signed with this team or this guy was traded to
this team. You want to let the information and make
sure it's true. But there's way more single source stuff
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out there now than maybe there was years ago, right,
just because of the way information is to seminated in
situations like this, It's just you can't do it that way,
you know what I mean. Like, and so if you
sort of trained yourself where it's like I can go
with things if I've only talked to one or two
people on this story. And this story and this story,
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you may not you may not instinctively think like no,
with this story over here, I really need to tap
the brakes, you know. So you just kind of put
information out there. And there are certain stories that are
more sensitive where it's really really important that you go
that they hit both sides of the story, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, So in this situation, it doesn't
matter if you're an insider or whatever your title is,
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because of the subject, you can't just report one side. Correct. Yes,
that's the sensitivity of the story. Because here's the thing too,
And when you have when you have like a when
you have a big platform like this, Brady, Like when
you have a huge platform like this. The problem with
what happened with Adam the other day, and I don't
want to be a media critic here, but like the
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problem with what happened with Adam the other day when
it comes to this particular story, was simply like, all right,
like you put the story out there, You've got this
huge platform, and now Dalvin Cook's side of the story,
Like because of Adam's platform and because of how many
people he reaches is going to drown out the other
side of the story, right because everybody more people have
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just heard that one side of the story. So now
on the other side of the story comes out, a
lot of people are just thinking, well, no, Dalvin Cook
was the victim here, and so you know, effectively the
agent used Adam's platform to drown out the woman's side
of the Effectively, that's what they all do. That's what
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an insider is used for. No, not in this case, LaVar,
but it's not only not, but Albert. We've got to
move on. Where's Obel? Where's Odell Beckham gonna end up?
I think everyone's kind of serious to see what this
is gonna where this is gonna lead. He's pulling all
those offers. What do you mean? Come on, I guys,
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I I um, you know, I honestly like, I don't
think the market is there as he had hoped it
would be. Um and look like part of it is
just a situation we're in. This year. This is the
year that COVID hit the salary cap, right, because in
the salary cap was set before COVID um and so
you know it was what it was. And this is
the year that sort of everybody's paying the piper. So
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twenty two of the thirty two teams have less than
five million dollars in cap space. Um, there's just not
a lot of cash out there. And I think this
is going to kind of come down to what O'Dell wants.
Both the Saints and the Chiefs appeal to him, and
both the Saints and the Chiefs have offers on the table,
and both the Saints and the Chiefs are i think
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financially asking him to take less. So now the question becomes,
what do you want? Do you want to go play
with Patrick Mahomes, Do you want to go home and
play for Sean Payton? Um? You know, like New England's
another one where he's had the relationship at Belichick and
there's a front office connection there, and that Elliott Wolfe
was the assistant GM of the Browns when they sat
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Rohdell there. Um, So you know there are a number
of teams involved in New England and New Orleans and
Seattle and Kansas City and Green Bay to a degree, Um,
this is really gonna kind of come down to what
O'Dell wants. I don't think the money is going to
be close to what he would have UM would have
expected it to be. UM. So you know, I think
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this is gonna really kind of boil down to what
O'Dell's priorities are. And again, is it the quarterback? If
it's a quarterback's Green Bay or Kansas City? Right? Is
it going home and playing in an offense that might
creatively get a little more out of him than that's
New Orleans? Is it like just the intrigue of playing
for Bill Belichick? You know, New England's there, so he's
got some good options. It's just the financial part of it.
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I don't think it's anywhere close to where he might
have thought it would be. I don't see how it
would be where he would want it to be in
the scenario that's playing out right now. It Now the
question to me becomes, we talk about the financial aspect
of it, but what about just the value proposition of
Odell Beckham, Because I mean, you know, the point was
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made earlier. If he was really worth the weight and
gold that he's worth, he's he's scooped up by now,
like I don't Again, I don't even think he makes
it through waivers. Regardless of what he's saying, I will
or I won't do he doesn't make it through waivers.
So this is to me, the value proposition becomes a
bigger conversation in terms of Odell Beckham. What are we
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bringing in here? And it is his talent level or
what he can do on the field, is it worth
us taking the risk of having to deal with culturally
what this could do or mean to our locker room
and our team. Well, here's the thing, guys, Like is that,
like I mean, this isn't like Randy Moss and Oakland
in two thousand and six, where like Oakland was like
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a tire fire, right, Like that's like, correct me if
I'm wrong, Like that wasn't a bad situation in Cleveland.
Like Kevin Stefanski's running the offense, that's like the Shanahan offense.
That's the offense everybody wants to play, and that's the
offense Cooper Cup is on taste for two thousand yards
in this year, right, So really good offense, a stable
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organization there in the race, his best friend and in
the sport, and Jarvis Landry is there, right, They've bent
over backwards to make it work for him, and like
he still couldn't fit in so I think that that's
the question a lot of teams are asking. Now. It's like,
you had so many things going right for you there,
you had so many things that were sort of set
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up for you to succeed, and you still didn't succeed,
and then you became a problem on the back end.
So why should we expect that it's going to be
different if we bring you in, you know? And so
I think that there's some fair questions to ask there
because he's not coming from a broken situation. And one
of the dangerous things with guys at this position, I think,
is or you don't want to be you don't want
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to have a guy who maybe is now a number
two receiver who thinks he's a number one, because that
can be a problem, you know. And I'm not saying
unequivocally that Odell isn't a number one anymore, but man,
he hasn't played like one in a long long time.
And so that's something you've got to consider too, is
is this guy gonna come in expecting to be treated
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like he's you know, say, Davante Adams, right, and really
he's more like Robert Woods. That that to me is
like one of the things you have to consider if
you're a playoff contender, and if you're a team like
Kansas City or Green Bay, like I think, you know,
you have to look at and say, okay, our quarterback
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and you know the other skill players can they sort
of effectively ConTroll O'Dell where we can turn him into
a very dangerous cog in our machine and he, like
will be able to accept the fact that he isn't
the machine itself. You can get him on Twitter at
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter for the mm QB. Always
good stuff, Albert. We appreciate it. Enjoy the game tonight,
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start handing out some awards. It is the halfway point
of the NFL season. We've decided we're gonna start handing
out some awards. Uh, so here we go. We've got
everybody who's wearing a tie. Um. Uh, LaVar's got a
bow tie on and nothing else. Um. You know, we
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were all addressed to the nines here. I mean, everybody's
all dressed up here. So it is an award show.
We've done the red carpet earlier and now it's time
to hand out some awards. And here's our presenter, the
one and only lead to lap our executive producer Lee.
You could set us up with each category as we
hand out some winners here halfway through the season, guys,
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we have to ask what is the best team in
the NFL of our Who's your best team? I'm going
with the pack I think the Packers are the best
team in NFL, even though they don't have Aaron Rodgers.
When they have Aaron Rodgers. This is the best team
in the National Football League. Interesting, Jonas, I'm gonna go
with the Arizona Cardinals, Lee, I think the Arizona Cardinals
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are the best team in the NFL. Uh. You know,
listen the one game against Green Bay. You know it
was a back and forth affair. But what they've done
shorthanded last week, what they did to the Rams earlier
this week. Just seeing the Arizona Cardinals in the way
that they performed, that is my best team for the
first half of the season. Le Brady, what is your
best team? A man, I think I'm gonna go. I'm
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gonna have to go with the Arizona I think it's
between those two teams though, um I just I think
if you go back, let those the Packers Arizona play again,
they're probably gonna split. Maybe it depends on, you know,
where they play to be the advantage, But I don't know.
I guess i'd say that Cardinals at this point. Honestly,
it's a coin sauce for me between the two from
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first to worst. What is the worst team in the NFL? LaVar, Oh,
the Texans, I really used it. That's more Dallas. Yeah whatever,
you know, it's still Texas and y'all stink. That's I mean,
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it's a cowboy. I don't know that that's there's black cowboys,
Hispanic cowboys, you know, Alan cowboys, Mountain cowboys, Cowboy cowboys,
Jonas what I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins lead.
They will be featured later on tonight. The Miami Dolphins
are a diaper fire. I don't care that they've got
two wins. That's a bad football team. Texas whatever, bad organization.
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Maybe I'm still pissed because I at Houston plus six,
but bad organization, bad situation. They've completely crippled their quarterback
situation with the way they've handled to a tug of
Iloa through and through. Worst team in the NFL, My
award goes to the Miami Are we not? Are we
not picking the Lions? I mean, there's so many bad teams.
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I don't even think any of us. That's crazy. Geez,
the Lions are stank too, Tray, we're seeing Brady? Is
that it? Yeah? Jeez, you guys were gonna need an explanation.
I mean, that's the pause was easy. I liked it. Actually,
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you guys rookie of the Year. Could it be a
defensive player? Levard Come on, you already know who I'm
going with, Michael Parson. Well, that's what he is. There,
you go, all right, there's no explanation needed for that.
I'm gonna go with the Jamaar Chase. I think Jamar
Chase is the rookie of the year. He's got seven
touchdowns on the season, He's been a deep threat for Cincinnati.
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And I say, all this is somebody who pointed out
that he was dropping a lot of footballs, making excuses
for the white stripe on the ball hit the But
what do you mean it's a white stripe? Oh? He
did it again. He said it again. Okay, so you're
saying the brown ball needs a white stripe to be
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did you what he did? Here? We go, the white
stripe helping the brown ball? All right, I'm not taking it.
I'm gonna give it to Jamar Chase, the rookie stud
wide receiver from the Cincinnati Bengals. Brady, who do I
think you could make a case for either one of those.
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But as I look at it, I'm gonna say, Matt Jones,
I think he's like top ten in yards for passing
in the league, which would be a little bit surprising,
um at least top half the league. But look at
they're in the playoff funt. I mean, say what you
want about it. They're in the playoff fund right now.
He's done a good job kind of coming around. I
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think I would have said Jamaar Chase if not for
how the game looked last week versus the old Brownies. Well,
the interesting thing is one of those two will get
a Rookie of the Year award. But the rookie of rookies,
the rookie defensive player of the year is far away.
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It's a rap. I mean, he's he's by the way,
just so it stated. He is setting records for the NFL,
like the history of the game. He's making history as
a rookie. But go ahead, go ahead, you guys. It
might be too early to give this one out first
half of the season. Coach of the Year, Jonas, who
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do you got, oh? I mean Bill Belichick? Bill Belichick
is your coach of the year. Look you can listen
for this is this is this is this is a
guy who doesn't get any love or any respect. He
is uh, he has performed admirably in year two, since
Tom Brady left to go to a talent laden roster
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in Tampa Bay. He's got a rookie quarterback, he dealt
with drama in the off season, and here he is
sitting at five and four. Now. To most people, he's
five and four. To me, he's seven and two because
I use my damn eyes and I don't look at
just wins and losses. I saw what happen in Tampa
A right. I saw it happen in another game that
I can't think of right now. But they are seven
and two. Don't listen to all the crappy here out there.
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Belichick is your coach of the year. Cliffy hands down,
hands now, because it's a it's a very pivotal year
for him to like can he take him to the
next step? But as of right now, it looks like
you can. I am with LaVar Cliff Kingsbury best record
in the NFL. And by the way, like if you're
gonna judge a team based on their loss, it was
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a close loss to the Packers and they had it, yeah,
and they had it A j Green just needs to
turn around. Then they went they're undefeating still to turn
around a j The The other thing is like, if
you look at green based losses, like what was that
to begin the season get blown out? It looks like
I don't know, man, that still sticks with me. He
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just had to get his feet under him, that's all.
Once and once a Rod got his feet under him.
It's been curtains ever since except for him. A loss.
But you know, it's not going to win it even
if they go like, you know what, fourteen and three,
they're going to give it. Belichick, Well, he's got it
always too good looking like that, he does have it
all that is he's got. He's got that nice pad
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we saw on draft day. Wow, he's too good looking.
He's got a talented roster. Talent like people aren't gonna
give him credit. They're gonna be like noe, and his
roster is good looking. On top of that, there's does
a whole lot of envy there. Here's the one thing
I would say is that he you know, he coaches
a team that's near Scottsdale, so there's no temptation there,
everything like that, So I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about it. Fine,
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Scottsdale is definitely not a place to yourself with activity anything.
It is uh, it's all domestic. Yes, saying to the beach,
but this is this desert saying not not beach, saying
there's no water. That's fine, I find the cactus. It
is the halfway point of the NFL season. We're handing
out awards. It is a you know what do they
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call it? A black tie affairs? There you hit the button,
the button? Do you want to white? The button? Hit
the shot? There you go if the shirt is white.
Oh my god. So what you're saying is in order
to be able to wear a black boat, you have
to have a white shirt. The white shirt has to
help the black boat, saying does this ty look white
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right here? Yes? Yes? Okay, so unbelievable. We're addressed to
the nights. It is an awards ceremony here and lead.
The laugh is a running point on this. So Leah,
where do we where do we continue on to? These
are the awards for the midway through this season. This
is when we learn who's been fooling us and Jonas
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who is the biggest fraud halfway through this? Oh my god,
this is easy. It's the Atlanta Falcons um their records
as for and for they should be Owen thirty eight.
That is a bad football team. Don't buy the craft
that you hear from people. Mattie, Matt Ryan the stop.
The only reason Matt Ryan is still on that rosters
be contractually. They couldn't find anybody else that would take him. Uh,
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this is a bad football a team. Arthur Smith. You
could say whatever you want about Arthur Smith, but I
don't buy the four and four record. I'm shocked there
four and four. If the playoffs started today, they'd be
in and they shouldn't be. It's the Atlanta Falcons. Brady,
who is your biggest fraud? I don't know, I said
any one. I kind of forget who it was. I mean,
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I don't I don't know who falls that category. We
don't have so many frauds and looking teams. Um. I
was trying to find my email and I still still
can't find take it. I'll give you some time. How
about that. I'm going with the entire NFC that is
the biggest fraud. You have only six teams above five
hundred and the entire NFC. You know how many teams
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are in the NFC? Six team? You know how many
teams are above five in the a f C eleven,
you're almost you're one win away from from half, like
like doubling the win total of winning teams. And the
NFC is the NFC. Alright, Lee reminded me of who
my my team was, the Las Vegas Raiders. I just
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I think it's more not necessary. I've loved what Derek
Carr has done this year. They've just battled through a lot,
and I think the second half the season, whereas they
sit at top of the a f C West, now
it ain't gonna be the case by the end of
the season. I'm sorry, Raiders fans. I know you're gonna
be upset with me, but I'm trying to temper your
emotions so you don't get upset when that happens at
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the end of the season, when it's still Kansas City
or the lh Charges sitting on top, or even the
Broncos and not the Raiders. From underrated to overblown, Jonas,
who is the most overblown team? When overblown? Story is that?
I believe that's where we're going with the with this
award most underrated team. You know, sorry, you're streams streams there,
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Jonas one of the most underrated team in the end.
Most underrated team. Listen, it's a team that never a
continue respect the New England Patriots. Uh, this is a
as I pointed out just a few moments ago here
and there, they're a seven and two football team that
dresses up five and four to make other people feel
comfortable about the situation. But the New England Patriots deserve respect.
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And if nobody else is gonna give him to him,
I'll give it to the Oscars, the Grammys. I mean,
it seems like you have the same thought process and
choosing your awards. Why, Brady, who's your most underrated team?
I've got the Chiefs. Look, they're five and four, they
have been awful so far this year, and they're still
in contention. Like they're still in striking distance with everyone else.
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I keep saying this, bet money on Patrick Mahomes. Bet
money on this team to win the division when they
have all of it, because they can't play much worse
and yet they still have a winning record. I love
it until we get the overblown story. Uh. Most underrated
is the Colts. Man. It is definitely the Colts. Uh.
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They have a running attack that is in my opinion, Uh,
the best in the league. I know Cleveland has an
awesome running attack, but this Colts running game is serious,
their defense serious, their offensive line serious. I think as
they continue to move on through the season, you will
see them assert themselves at a higher level and take over.
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I think I think they may even end up overtaking Tennessee.
We tease it. What is the most overblown story so
far this I'll start Kansas City, Kansas City turning it around.
Putting your money on Kansas City. Think of that, Patrick
Mahomes in Kansas City is going to be this team
that ends up climbing from where they are, which is
right there, as Brady said, But you know they are
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fiving four and there's a whack fiving for us. The
whack is fiving four and most overblown five and four
in the league. It's Kansas City and them turning it
around and being this uh juggernaut of a team that
they once were. The magic is gone, guys, uh lee
most overblown, most overclowed story, most most overblown story in
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the NFL The Aaron Rodgers outrage over COVID. Uh. These
losers that covered the NFL that want to grand stand
and stand on their soapbox and criticize Aaron Rodgers for
this stuff. It's all people that are bitter because they
didn't catch on to how he manipulated them months ago.
Now they're angry about it and they want their revenge.
He gets pop fourteen thousand dollars. That's not enough. He
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behaved in a certain way. He deserves to be punished
through the book at him. It's the Aaron Rodgers COVID outrage,
a disgrace to sports media. I would have picked that.
I figured you were going in that direction, so I'm
gonna go with um. I mean, it's literally provided content
for us, and I'm not sure why. Yes, it made
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that big of an impact since his first couple of
seasons of the Giants, and yet it's it's almost like
we're looking in the ocean where everyone's on the watch
from Moby Dick, like we can't wait to see this
gigantic whale surface or crest at some point. I mean,
he wasn't claimed. It's just the whole thing. It's a
bit bizarre. So I'm to say, oh, b J. Bright
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now and we're still talking about it, like we're still
waiting to see where the guy signs and I don't
know if just gonna make any difference once he does
sign You guys, every year we always make our preseason
predictions for what's gonna happen. What was our worst pick
before the season? Jonas, Uh, forty Niners in the Super Bowl?
Just an awful pick. I I can't get it right, man.
I every single year I butcher the Super Bowl pick.
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This is bad. There are three win team, you got
dissension in the front office and the coaching staff now
reportedly potentially the quarterback situation, injuries. They're not a good
football team. And that was an awful pick by me.
The forty Niners. I'm ashamed to say. The Panthers. I
had them being a contender. I had them making the playoffs.
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Doesn't look so much so at this point, Brady, what
were your worst before? Yeah, it's been the Lions. Every
damn time I'm picking the cover this year. I mean,
I can't figure this team out. I really can't, man Like,
every single time I picked him the cover, they just
roll over like a little kittie cat. And then the
times I don't pick him, they fight back like Lions
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in the second half and they cover the spread. I
cannot figure them out at this point. I've just said
they're obviously gonna lose a lot of games, and they're
probably not gonna cover a lot. So I'm not picking
them the rest of the season. I'm just I don't care.
I don't care if they win a game or two,
I don't care. I'm not picking them the cover any spreads,
all right, I just can't figure that team out. Lastly,
you guys, it's your time to call your shot. LaVar.
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Who's your m v P for the season. It's it's
LaVar Jackson, Jackson I'm with I'm with Lamar or LaVar
on LaVar or Lamar. I like LaVar Jackson. He'll be
featured later on tonight. I think he's the m v P.
He's the most important player to his team, and looking round,
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I don't see where this team is at without him.
I'll take Lamar. Yeah, I think you can make that case. Um,
I'm gonna say at this point, though, Kyle Murray, right,
cat mean, come on, they got the best wreck in
the league. He's been special. You know that the stats
aren't necessarily you know, I dropping, but he's he's been great.
You know. I gotta give him credit right now for
the way Um Dave continued to progress in this year,
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in particular now having the best wreck in the NFL.
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Joe with LaVar arian Rady Quinn and Joe mis knocks
on Fox Sports Radio week ten in the NFL kicks
off tonight. That all that one breath? Huh? What's that? Brows?
And god damn you hit it in one breath? But
(00:25):
is he going breathe now? Listen man, he breathed through
his ears. I've talked about this. That is weird, like
almost like gills like folto gila, all right, that too.
I have a burnt as hand right now. Thanks thanks
to When when do you want to hot coffee? When
(00:46):
do you want to get into that on the air?
Just you know, I'm just saying, you know, we got
you know Lee, It's very caring. He's a very caring person.
I was in the middle of of of nuking my
my coffee so that it would be a little hotter
than what it was. My phone is ringing, I got
my stuff in my hand. I'm trying to grab it
the phone. This next thing, you know, half of my
(01:08):
s is all over the place, most of it is
on my hand. My hand is like you know, probably
gonna blister up in a few minutes. It's all God,
it was hot. I'm woke. Oh I like my hot
bro hot hot. I want my Joe hot it. I
could tell the bar was pissed. I could tell what
he was pissed. I just tried to listen to let
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him cool off a little bit. And see how quick
I stay stuff off though I got kids like you
can't stay mad quick, stayed bad long. It's it's no good. Yeah,
it does no good for you. And now will you
sue lead to lap for scolding your hand? Remember back
in the day. I'm just saying, like back in the day,
I am in the workplace right now. Though you know
(01:51):
what I mean that I could, I could that type
of how much? How much did that lady? Wasn't a
lady who sued McDonald's one. She got millions for that?
Oh yeah, dude, hold on, let me look at up,
Let me look at I got changed my mind. No, no, no, no,
I'm saying I know she got millions. Like it's not
(02:12):
let's let's go live to our I know how much
the woman made off burning herself with coffee from McDonald's
inside or lead to laugh deservedly? So she made three
million dollars three million dollars in punitive damages for the
burns she suffered. LaVar, we've got a case. Let's do
(02:32):
it to join up. Man. Now, let me ask you that.
What do you think offers were out there? What if
they told, all right, we'll give you one point five
in lifetime McDonald's no. The way she lived in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, that three million back in oh yeah, oh yeah,
she probably spent that join in a month. She's running
(02:53):
that thing, probably built a mansion off those somebody somebody
caught that on on the next mark it closure. Yeah,
that's all. Forget about everything that. Hey, look, you forget
about everything else. I go with your purchases. You thought,
oh I had enough for the purchase. That just didn't
realize I had to maintain them. What do you mean
(03:15):
there's a mortgage? Wait? Wait, hold on the house cost
at one point five? I thought that was it. You
got to pay on the taxes and the electric and
the gas and water, all that stuff. You didn't know
that three million bucks insurance. You know it could go
pretty quick, bro, three million could go quick? Why you
can she's a millionaire. Now, um, I'm gonna try to
(03:38):
get mindo. Yeah, I get let's work together on this. Yeah,
but the law offices of the Quox Now we will
get it. We'll get it done here on Fox Sports Red.
You are sold. Now here's the here's the thing. Yes,
we're excited about Thursday night for yeah. Yes, And I
mentioned that there's you know, hundreds of affiliates and a
(03:58):
bunch of people that are listening to the show. The
one person I can assure you is not listening to
the show, Brady Quinn, is Odell Beckham Jr. Because he
is pulling through offers right now. According to reports, all
the all those offers from from Odell Beckham that are
out there on the table. I mean, if I hear
one more report about this team is interested, that coach
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is interested. He's got insiders at all angles from all areas.
Given a different team. I've heard Patriots, Saints, Packers, Chiefs,
eight teams, Seahawks, Russell Wilson and Sean Paytner calling him good.
I'll make him up, the Toronto Argonauts, the l A Lakers,
(04:41):
uh and uh, you know the Notre Dame fighting Irish
Like it is ridiculous. The amount of rumors that are
out there and all the interest in Odell Beckham Jr. Dude,
you should have just stayed in Cleveland, Like what can
I say something very quickly to that as well? And
and historical terms or or in historical fashion, when somebody
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is considered to be oh my gosh, I can't believe
he made it to the open market. Data is first
of all, first and foremost. You never make it through waivers. Like,
let's start right there. You never make it through waivers.
I don't care if you said I'm not playing for you,
I'm not doing this. You never have an analogy for this,
all right. This. Secondly, if you so happen someway somehow
(05:27):
are bad enough as a player to make it through waivers,
because that's what it is. If you're bad enough, something
about you said, we are not claiming this guy. You
make it through waivers and you're on the free market.
Do you know how quickly you get scooped up? You
know how quickly that scoop up it, that scoop up game.
I've seen it happen in the club. Okay, okay, so
(05:49):
stop right there, stop right there. This is the analogy.
Come on, it could be a bar, it could be
a club. Come on here, we all know how this works.
You walk into that joint back in your single days, right,
and you see her and you are bee lining to her.
Okay's but that's what I'm saying, is like she is
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getting that best first shot, right, she's the first one.
You're going in easy, and you are by the way.
You are not leaving that side until get it done
well that or you fund out something. There might be
some baggage something. There might be some baggage, and you're like, oh,
(06:35):
let's pivot, let's go this way, and now you're moving on,
like to your point about getting claimed off waivers. Okay,
that like when we've all been there, man bar club, whatever,
when you see that one that you're like, I can't
believe this has happened. I can't believe it's possible. You're
locking it down like you are by her side the
(06:57):
rest of the night. You might even go buy one
of those cheap chains with like Jonas across the property Jonas. Uh.
That would literally be like how it used to be
back in the day. But if you see that player
go unclaimed, it is like that. All right, you had
a nice little conversation, then you came to realize, like
she some weird stuff. She's crazy, she's crazy, and she
(07:21):
all of a sudden was grabbing you like you couldn't
leave outside and you were scared, and yeah, you couldn't
go to bathroom. I don't wanna die. I mean, she's
a note. You know, when you wake up the next morning,
she's leaving you a note and you're going, what the
hell just happened? Last night's standing out and the problem?
(07:43):
But that's atally here that door, that door closed, and
it was a woman behind you in that rest room
and it was her. Ten you crazy? So so who
is the who's the ten in question? Here? For the
other is its the question is who're standing in the restaurant?
(08:06):
Just got crept up about because so New Orleans has
to have everything to do with the fact that oh
b J went to l s U. He wants to
get back down in that area because you can't think
that he'd be looking at the Saints outside of the
fact he would be the guy. Michael Thomas is now
(08:26):
out for the season, and we know Sean McVeigh, whether
Drew Brees was in there or not, created game plans
to get the ball to Michael Thomas. But if you're
Odell Beckham, like, how can you be looking at Trevor
Simeon and saying, yeah, that's comparable to what I would
get from you know, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers.
(08:49):
I mean, you're talking about a dramatic drop off, regardless
of the pole, from your days at l s U
and being back in Louisiana or Sean Payton and in
the brilliance that he has as a play caller. I
just like someone made the analogy. You know, people are
like shopping for a used car and like, Odell Beckham's
that used car. But I was also kind of like, well,
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is he or is like is the quarterback or the
team he's looking at kind of like that used car,
Like he's got to figure out what he wants to
jump into to drive the rest of the way this season,
And it's kind of pivotal I think for his career.
If he goes to a team where he just you know,
they kind of fizzle out, he falls by the wayside,
he's an afterthought. If they're a team that's still playing
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in the playoffs and they maybe make a little bit
of a run and he's a part of that. Everyone's
gonna see it. Everyone's gonna remember for next season, assuming
he signs, you know, a one year deal to finish
out this year. One of the angles that I saw
out there was somebody said, well, you know, he's finally
he's taking his time because he's finally getting his opportunity
to be a free agent. It's like, well, we've talked
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about this before. The best players never become free agents, right, Like,
they can't. They can become free agents, it just but
to become a free agent this way is far more
extreme than if a a goat of some sort became
like Jerry Rice became a free agent. Like you know,
different guys have become free agents at point in times
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in their in their careers. But this these circumstances make
it different. That's that's what it is. So to your point,
guys that are are really worth their weight do not
become free agents this way. It would have had to have
have been something very extreme that made them a free agent.
In most cases that they became a free agent through
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extreme circumstances, like like a Lawrence Phillips. Right, chances are
you do not want to touch that product because it's
damaged goods in some way. For it goes back to
Brady's original point in the club, there's something wrong. There's
something and you're now looking at yourself and you're saying,
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because every coach and every organization gets a guy and
they believe they can be the one that changes it around,
like God, we can use him the right way, we
can get it right with him. And then but then
you look at the circumstances surrounding it. These issues existed
in New York. That's why New York part ways, if
people are recollecting correctly, there were there issues with him
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and and just like the emotions and different things like that.
Someone's call it passion, whatever you wanna call it, but
there was discord. Then the same thing happens in Cleveland,
but now it's a it's a hem versus him thing,
and it's what your quarterback. Well, what makes this even more,
you know, kind of curious, is the dad getting involved.
So now here we go back to something that that
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me saying, dad's and parents getting involved can be damaging. Right,
his daddy got involved. There's something that's not right here.
And if you're taking a chance on this situation at
this point, in time in your season. If you are
a contender, this is a dangerous move. If you are
not a contender, this is a dangerous moves Like, well,
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how is it a dangerous move if you're not a contender,
Because if you are building chemistry, like say the Jets,
they're trying to find that chemistry. You got a guy
like Silo who wants to build that culture. You do
not want anything that's gonna put you back at what's
the point? What's the point of bringing him in. There's
no reason for me to go three steps back if
I'm trying to go five, six, seven steps forward. It
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just doesn't make sense. It's quickly shows. It's almost like
a virus that gets in your locker room and spreads,
you know, not that we would know anything about that,
damn how dare we? By the way? You know? What's
I do wonder because a lot of maybe they'll never
come out and speak honestly about it, but people in
the NFL, because it does feel like outside of people
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in the league, Odell Beckham is more highly thought of
than guys in because this whole well, yeah, this whole,
this whole conversation about well, you know, he just he
just wasn't used correctly in Cleveland, like he's missing multiple games,
he's not even on the team anymore, and he still
leads them in targets. So it's not like they didn't
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try and get him the ball like this idea. They
just didn't try and get him the ball. They weren't
even know that. I didn't even know. He still leads
the team and targets and he's not on the team anymore,
and he miss Moore, wouldn't think You wouldn't think that,
especially off of the video Dad Daddy sent. Yeah, right, Yeah,
I don't know. It's just the whole thing is very
very strange. But who knows. Maybe we'll have a signing
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before the end of the show today, maybe not because
now reportedly it's going to take several days. I'm just
telling you, if if I got a divorce today, if
I had a divorce to day, I would not clear waivers. Yeah,
that wouldn't have to take that wouldn't have to take
a day or two to And I ain't even that pretty,
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you know what I mean, But I would not clear
waivers happy. Yeah, that that being said, I think you
should want to clear waivers to take some time for yourself.
You know what I mean, like, hey, I want you,
but not just what I mean, like you don't want
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to you don't want to get tied up. And it's
something right when you walk into the bar, you know,
like my head and have some fun. We are we
are straight over. You're talking about get claimed and scooped
up in the bar. That is the only place might
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need to like make some like put out there some contingency.
I will not go to this tape. I will not
go to this taste and this and do the you know,
if you want to negotiate with me, meet me in Vegas.
You know that's that's we could get an annulment. Be
sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a
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Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington and Jonas
Knocks week days at six am e staring three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
Right now, we welcome in Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter
for the mm QB kind enough to hang out with
us here every single week. Get him on Twitter at
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Albert Brier, Albert, what's happening? How's your Thursday? I'm good,
I'm good. How good? We just had a spirited conversation,
a debate if you will, about the situation Dalvin Cook
and the how Adam Schefter is getting heat from some
people saying that he didn't really report on both sides.
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He gave Dalvin cook side and then later came back
and gave the side of the accuser in this situation,
and then the conversation, actually you're perfect have on right
now afterwards, because how do you feel about Adam Schefter's
handling of it as an insider or reporter? Is there
the difference between the two and how this whole story
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broke down? Yeah? I mean, I you know, I respect
at him a lot, and I've known at him a
long time. I I you know, I think like one
thing about this whole situation, you know, I I think
we didn't learn in two thousand and fourteen how to
handle these sorts of things, um, you know, and then
then shame on us, you know, because I think for
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me at least, like having to cover the Ray Rice thing,
having to cover the Adrian Peterson thing, and having to
cover the Greg Heart you think all those at once,
right like when you get into this, and I'm sure
it's the same for you guys being doing doing what
you're doing now, you're not signing up to cover those
sorts of things, right, And so you know, for a
lot of us there's like a learning curve and and
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and trying to figure out, okay, like what's the right
way to handle this? And um, you know you learned
about it like when you're in school and how to
how to deal with these sorts of things. But um,
if you're covering sports, you don't really have the day
to day you know, professional practice doing it. And so
you know, I I certainly you know, learned in two
thousand and fourteen that, um, the things are very very
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they take an incredible amount You have taken an incredible
amount of care and covering these things because they are
so sensitive and there's so many people that are affected
by them. And it's not just that people involved, but
it's other people that have been involved in in cases
like them. You know, when they see the way you
cover it, they can be affected by it. And so, um,
you know, I think just being slow and steady on
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those sorts of stories is usually a good policy. Um.
And there's always you know, a rush to be first
with this or that but in stories like that, um,
you know, I think that just being sensitive to everything
that's going on, and you know, not convicting people before
they have their chance, you know, and not and not
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going with things without getting both sides of the story.
You know, it's always important, but it's even more important
when you're covering stories. Is that for an insider? Albert?
Or is an insider? Is that what you just described?
I have a reporter from the reporting standpoint or is
that an insider? So when we talk about ray Rice,
the person an insider would say, I talked to Ray Rice.
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So the integrity of what that insider does is to
report accurately what they got from Ray Rice. That's what
makes them an inside er, correct, right? Yeah, And there's
a difference, um, you know, And there are different jobs
that have different demands on them in our in our
line of work, and I think like with an insider, um,
you know, the difference is, you know, your job is
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to get information, and like with those sorts of jobs,
a lot of times the information that you get is
information that would be out there anyway. You're just getting
it ahead of everybody else. Like where like with you know,
what I would consider like the more investigative type of reporting.
That's different. You know, in a lot of in a
lot of cases, you're getting stuff that people don't want
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out there, if you understand what I'm saying, where like
insider information is more are direct from the source. It's
gonna be stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be stuff that's eventually
gonna eventually may get out there anyway, it's just that
it goes to one person um first, Whereas the investigative
investigative stuff is stuff that may not see the light
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of day unless it's unless the reporter gets to it. Right,
is getting the information that other people don't want out
would you say? Would you say, in the sense of
being an insider, the integrity of what you get informationally speaking,
is if if I got information from Albert Brier, but
Albert Brier says, I did not say that, that is
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not what I said. That is Now you've now breached
what an insider does, which is getting the information from
the person or the camp that's directly connected to what's
taking place. Correct. Trust is the number one thing in
all of these for an insider. Yeah, you know, and
I know with everybody, I mean, like I I think
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it's important in any job that you do. That's it's
not art, I mean, I I think it's it's vital.
You know, so much of what we do and so
much of what I do is based on the relationships
I have, And if I can't build trust with people,
then I'm not going to be able to do my
job at a high level, you know. And that's that's
the bottom line. Like I have to establish trust with
people and I have to be able to That's how
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you get information out of people, right, is that they
trust that you're gonna do the right thing with it
and you're gonna and and that you're going to um
at the end of the day, maybe you're not gonna
do exactly what they want, but like you're going to
be fair and you're going to tell the truth as
you know it, you know, and so UM. You know.
I've always thought like those I mean, trust and truth
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through the two two things that like need to be
kind of a guiding light. Like when it comes to
the way we are prusts you know, important thing and
getting information um and being able to um, you know,
being able to kind of get that out of people.
Then truth is you know, important because you know, the
general public isn't going to take what you say seriously
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unless you have a consistent um track record of telling
the truth and and and why and and being right
when you're saying there. And it's the difference between making predictions,
of course, and reporting on things, you know what I mean,
there's levels of truth as well. But that's that's that's
a large conversation. But Albert, why is why is Adam
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Schefter in trouble? Then? If if he's an insider and
he's just doing his job because he's a puppet for
whoever tells him anything, why is he apologizing? Why is
this an issue at all? Why? Why is LaVar taking
a stance of Hey, he's an insider, he's just doing
his job. Why does he have to apologize for anything? Well?
Right here, here's where it is, okay, because and I
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think this is what social media has done. Is like
social media, like so you go back twenty years and
I started in newspapers, right, so like twenty years ago,
like you it have there's it was like a twenty
four hour news side. There was a twenty four hour
news cycle, so basically it was I'd have all day
to work on my story, and then you know, I
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have a deadline that I'm working towards, and then at
the end of the day, I gather as much information
as I can and boom, here's a story with a
half dozen people I've talked to, you know, versus where
it is now where it's just like every nugget of
information has value. So it's just you get information, you
put it out. You get information, you put it out.
And so now instead of talking to six or seven
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people like you might over a day to do a
story coming on the newspaper, you might talk to one
person and boom, it's out there on the internet. And
in a lot of cases, doing things that way is
relatively harmless, right, Like if we're talking about this players
signed with this team or this guy was traded to
this team. You want to let the information and make
sure it's true. But there's way more single source stuff
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out there now than maybe there was years ago, right,
just because of the way information is to seminated in
situations like this, It's just you can't do it that way,
you know what I mean. Like, and so if you
sort of trained yourself where it's like I can go
with things if I've only talked to one or two
people on this story. And this story and this story,
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you may not you may not instinctively think like no,
with this story over here, I really need to tap
the brakes, you know. So you just kind of put
information out there. And there are certain stories that are
more sensitive where it's really really important that you go
that they hit both sides of the story, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, So in this situation, it doesn't
matter if you're an insider or whatever your title is,
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because of the subject, you can't just report one side. Correct. Yes,
that's the sensitivity of the story. Because here's the thing too,
And when you have when you have like a when
you have a big platform like this, Brady, Like when
you have a huge platform like this. The problem with
what happened with Adam the other day, and I don't
want to be a media critic here, but like the
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problem with what happened with Adam the other day when
it comes to this particular story, was simply like, all right,
like you put the story out there, You've got this
huge platform, and now Dalvin Cook's side of the story,
Like because of Adam's platform and because of how many
people he reaches is going to drown out the other
side of the story, right because everybody more people have
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just heard that one side of the story. So now
on the other side of the story comes out, a
lot of people are just thinking, well, no, Dalvin Cook
was the victim here, and so you know, effectively the
agent used Adam's platform to drown out the woman's side
of the Effectively, that's what they all do. That's what
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an insider is used for. No, not in this case, LaVar,
but it's not only not, but Albert. We've got to
move on. Where's Obel? Where's Odell Beckham gonna end up?
I think everyone's kind of serious to see what this
is gonna where this is gonna lead. He's pulling all
those offers. What do you mean? Come on, I guys,
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I I um, you know, I honestly like, I don't
think the market is there as he had hoped it
would be. Um and look like part of it is
just a situation we're in. This year. This is the
year that COVID hit the salary cap, right, because in
the salary cap was set before COVID um and so
you know it was what it was. And this is
the year that sort of everybody's paying the piper. So
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twenty two of the thirty two teams have less than
five million dollars in cap space. Um, there's just not
a lot of cash out there. And I think this
is going to kind of come down to what O'Dell wants.
Both the Saints and the Chiefs appeal to him, and
both the Saints and the Chiefs have offers on the table,
and both the Saints and the Chiefs are i think
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financially asking him to take less. So now the question becomes,
what do you want? Do you want to go play
with Patrick Mahomes, Do you want to go home and
play for Sean Payton? Um? You know, like New England's
another one where he's had the relationship at Belichick and
there's a front office connection there, and that Elliott Wolfe
was the assistant GM of the Browns when they sat
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Rohdell there. Um, So you know there are a number
of teams involved in New England and New Orleans and
Seattle and Kansas City and Green Bay to a degree, Um,
this is really gonna kind of come down to what
O'Dell wants. I don't think the money is going to
be close to what he would have UM would have
expected it to be. UM. So you know, I think
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this is gonna really kind of boil down to what
O'Dell's priorities are. And again, is it the quarterback? If
it's a quarterback's Green Bay or Kansas City? Right? Is
it going home and playing in an offense that might
creatively get a little more out of him than that's
New Orleans? Is it like just the intrigue of playing
for Bill Belichick? You know, New England's there, so he's
got some good options. It's just the financial part of it.
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I don't think it's anywhere close to where he might
have thought it would be. I don't see how it
would be where he would want it to be in
the scenario that's playing out right now. It Now the
question to me becomes, we talk about the financial aspect
of it, but what about just the value proposition of
Odell Beckham, Because I mean, you know, the point was
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made earlier. If he was really worth the weight and
gold that he's worth, he's he's scooped up by now,
like I don't Again, I don't even think he makes
it through waivers. Regardless of what he's saying, I will
or I won't do he doesn't make it through waivers.
So this is to me, the value proposition becomes a
bigger conversation in terms of Odell Beckham. What are we
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bringing in here? And it is his talent level or
what he can do on the field, is it worth
us taking the risk of having to deal with culturally
what this could do or mean to our locker room
and our team. Well, here's the thing, guys, Like is that,
like I mean, this isn't like Randy Moss and Oakland
in two thousand and six, where like Oakland was like
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a tire fire, right, Like that's like, correct me if
I'm wrong, Like that wasn't a bad situation in Cleveland.
Like Kevin Stefanski's running the offense, that's like the Shanahan offense.
That's the offense everybody wants to play, and that's the
offense Cooper Cup is on taste for two thousand yards
in this year, right, So really good offense, a stable
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organization there in the race, his best friend and in
the sport, and Jarvis Landry is there, right, They've bent
over backwards to make it work for him, and like
he still couldn't fit in so I think that that's
the question a lot of teams are asking. Now. It's like,
you had so many things going right for you there,
you had so many things that were sort of set
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up for you to succeed, and you still didn't succeed,
and then you became a problem on the back end.
So why should we expect that it's going to be
different if we bring you in, you know? And so
I think that there's some fair questions to ask there
because he's not coming from a broken situation. And one
of the dangerous things with guys at this position, I think,
is or you don't want to be you don't want
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to have a guy who maybe is now a number
two receiver who thinks he's a number one, because that
can be a problem, you know. And I'm not saying
unequivocally that Odell isn't a number one anymore, but man,
he hasn't played like one in a long long time.
And so that's something you've got to consider too, is
is this guy gonna come in expecting to be treated
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like he's you know, say, Davante Adams, right, and really
he's more like Robert Woods. That that to me is
like one of the things you have to consider if
you're a playoff contender, and if you're a team like
Kansas City or Green Bay, like I think, you know,
you have to look at and say, okay, our quarterback
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and you know the other skill players can they sort
of effectively ConTroll O'Dell where we can turn him into
a very dangerous cog in our machine and he, like
will be able to accept the fact that he isn't
the machine itself. You can get him on Twitter at
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter for the mm QB. Always
good stuff, Albert. We appreciate it. Enjoy the game tonight,
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wherever you get your podcasts. Let's just go at and
start handing out some awards. It is the halfway point
of the NFL season. We've decided we're gonna start handing
out some awards. Uh, so here we go. We've got
everybody who's wearing a tie. Um. Uh, LaVar's got a
bow tie on and nothing else. Um. You know, we
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were all addressed to the nines here. I mean, everybody's
all dressed up here. So it is an award show.
We've done the red carpet earlier and now it's time
to hand out some awards. And here's our presenter, the
one and only lead to lap our executive producer Lee.
You could set us up with each category as we
hand out some winners here halfway through the season, guys,
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we have to ask what is the best team in
the NFL of our Who's your best team? I'm going
with the pack I think the Packers are the best
team in NFL, even though they don't have Aaron Rodgers.
When they have Aaron Rodgers. This is the best team
in the National Football League. Interesting, Jonas, I'm gonna go
with the Arizona Cardinals, Lee, I think the Arizona Cardinals
(31:58):
are the best team in the NFL. Uh. You know,
listen the one game against Green Bay. You know it
was a back and forth affair. But what they've done
shorthanded last week, what they did to the Rams earlier
this week. Just seeing the Arizona Cardinals in the way
that they performed, that is my best team for the
first half of the season. Le Brady, what is your
best team? A man, I think I'm gonna go. I'm
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gonna have to go with the Arizona I think it's
between those two teams though, um I just I think
if you go back, let those the Packers Arizona play again,
they're probably gonna split. Maybe it depends on, you know,
where they play to be the advantage, But I don't know.
I guess i'd say that Cardinals at this point. Honestly,
it's a coin sauce for me between the two from
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first to worst. What is the worst team in the NFL? LaVar, Oh,
the Texans, I really used it. That's more Dallas. Yeah whatever,
you know, it's still Texas and y'all stink. That's I mean,
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it's a cowboy. I don't know that that's there's black cowboys,
Hispanic cowboys, you know, Alan cowboys, Mountain cowboys, Cowboy cowboys,
Jonas what I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins lead.
They will be featured later on tonight. The Miami Dolphins
are a diaper fire. I don't care that they've got
two wins. That's a bad football team. Texas whatever, bad organization.
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Maybe I'm still pissed because I at Houston plus six,
but bad organization, bad situation. They've completely crippled their quarterback
situation with the way they've handled to a tug of
Iloa through and through. Worst team in the NFL, My
award goes to the Miami Are we not? Are we
not picking the Lions? I mean, there's so many bad teams.
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I don't even think any of us. That's crazy. Geez,
the Lions are stank too, Tray, we're seeing Brady? Is
that it? Yeah? Jeez, you guys were gonna need an explanation.
I mean, that's the pause was easy. I liked it. Actually,
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you guys rookie of the Year. Could it be a
defensive player? Levard Come on, you already know who I'm
going with, Michael Parson. Well, that's what he is. There,
you go, all right, there's no explanation needed for that.
I'm gonna go with the Jamaar Chase. I think Jamar
Chase is the rookie of the year. He's got seven
touchdowns on the season, He's been a deep threat for Cincinnati.
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And I say, all this is somebody who pointed out
that he was dropping a lot of footballs, making excuses
for the white stripe on the ball hit the But
what do you mean it's a white stripe? Oh? He
did it again. He said it again. Okay, so you're
saying the brown ball needs a white stripe to be
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did you what he did? Here? We go, the white
stripe helping the brown ball? All right, I'm not taking it.
I'm gonna give it to Jamar Chase, the rookie stud
wide receiver from the Cincinnati Bengals. Brady, who do I
think you could make a case for either one of those.
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But as I look at it, I'm gonna say, Matt Jones,
I think he's like top ten in yards for passing
in the league, which would be a little bit surprising,
um at least top half the league. But look at
they're in the playoff funt. I mean, say what you
want about it. They're in the playoff fund right now.
He's done a good job kind of coming around. I
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think I would have said Jamaar Chase if not for
how the game looked last week versus the old Brownies. Well,
the interesting thing is one of those two will get
a Rookie of the Year award. But the rookie of rookies,
the rookie defensive player of the year is far away.
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It's a rap. I mean, he's he's by the way,
just so it stated. He is setting records for the NFL,
like the history of the game. He's making history as
a rookie. But go ahead, go ahead, you guys. It
might be too early to give this one out first
half of the season. Coach of the Year, Jonas, who
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do you got, oh? I mean Bill Belichick? Bill Belichick
is your coach of the year. Look you can listen
for this is this is this is this is a
guy who doesn't get any love or any respect. He
is uh, he has performed admirably in year two, since
Tom Brady left to go to a talent laden roster
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in Tampa Bay. He's got a rookie quarterback, he dealt
with drama in the off season, and here he is
sitting at five and four. Now. To most people, he's
five and four. To me, he's seven and two because
I use my damn eyes and I don't look at
just wins and losses. I saw what happen in Tampa
A right. I saw it happen in another game that
I can't think of right now. But they are seven
and two. Don't listen to all the crappy here out there.
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Belichick is your coach of the year. Cliffy hands down,
hands now, because it's a it's a very pivotal year
for him to like can he take him to the
next step? But as of right now, it looks like
you can. I am with LaVar Cliff Kingsbury best record
in the NFL. And by the way, like if you're
gonna judge a team based on their loss, it was
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a close loss to the Packers and they had it, yeah,
and they had it A j Green just needs to
turn around. Then they went they're undefeating still to turn
around a j The The other thing is like, if
you look at green based losses, like what was that
to begin the season get blown out? It looks like
I don't know, man, that still sticks with me. He
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just had to get his feet under him, that's all.
Once and once a Rod got his feet under him.
It's been curtains ever since except for him. A loss.
But you know, it's not going to win it even
if they go like, you know what, fourteen and three,
they're going to give it. Belichick, Well, he's got it
always too good looking like that, he does have it
all that is he's got. He's got that nice pad
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we saw on draft day. Wow, he's too good looking.
He's got a talented roster. Talent like people aren't gonna
give him credit. They're gonna be like noe, and his
roster is good looking. On top of that, there's does
a whole lot of envy there. Here's the one thing
I would say is that he you know, he coaches
a team that's near Scottsdale, so there's no temptation there,
everything like that, So I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about it. Fine,
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Scottsdale is definitely not a place to yourself with activity anything.
It is uh, it's all domestic. Yes, saying to the beach,
but this is this desert saying not not beach, saying
there's no water. That's fine, I find the cactus. It
is the halfway point of the NFL season. We're handing
out awards. It is a you know what do they
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call it? A black tie affairs? There you hit the button,
the button? Do you want to white? The button? Hit
the shot? There you go if the shirt is white.
Oh my god. So what you're saying is in order
to be able to wear a black boat, you have
to have a white shirt. The white shirt has to
help the black boat, saying does this ty look white
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right here? Yes? Yes? Okay, so unbelievable. We're addressed to
the nights. It is an awards ceremony here and lead.
The laugh is a running point on this. So Leah,
where do we where do we continue on to? These
are the awards for the midway through this season. This
is when we learn who's been fooling us and Jonas
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who is the biggest fraud halfway through this? Oh my god,
this is easy. It's the Atlanta Falcons um their records
as for and for they should be Owen thirty eight.
That is a bad football team. Don't buy the craft
that you hear from people. Mattie, Matt Ryan the stop.
The only reason Matt Ryan is still on that rosters
be contractually. They couldn't find anybody else that would take him. Uh,
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this is a bad football a team. Arthur Smith. You
could say whatever you want about Arthur Smith, but I
don't buy the four and four record. I'm shocked there
four and four. If the playoffs started today, they'd be
in and they shouldn't be. It's the Atlanta Falcons. Brady,
who is your biggest fraud? I don't know, I said
any one. I kind of forget who it was. I mean,
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I don't I don't know who falls that category. We
don't have so many frauds and looking teams. Um. I
was trying to find my email and I still still
can't find take it. I'll give you some time. How
about that. I'm going with the entire NFC that is
the biggest fraud. You have only six teams above five
hundred and the entire NFC. You know how many teams
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are in the NFC? Six team? You know how many
teams are above five in the a f C eleven,
you're almost you're one win away from from half, like
like doubling the win total of winning teams. And the
NFC is the NFC. Alright, Lee reminded me of who
my my team was, the Las Vegas Raiders. I just
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I think it's more not necessary. I've loved what Derek
Carr has done this year. They've just battled through a lot,
and I think the second half the season, whereas they
sit at top of the a f C West, now
it ain't gonna be the case by the end of
the season. I'm sorry, Raiders fans. I know you're gonna
be upset with me, but I'm trying to temper your
emotions so you don't get upset when that happens at
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the end of the season, when it's still Kansas City
or the lh Charges sitting on top, or even the
Broncos and not the Raiders. From underrated to overblown, Jonas,
who is the most overblown team? When overblown? Story is that?
I believe that's where we're going with the with this
award most underrated team. You know, sorry, you're streams streams there,
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Jonas one of the most underrated team in the end.
Most underrated team. Listen, it's a team that never a
continue respect the New England Patriots. Uh, this is a
as I pointed out just a few moments ago here
and there, they're a seven and two football team that
dresses up five and four to make other people feel
comfortable about the situation. But the New England Patriots deserve respect.
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And if nobody else is gonna give him to him,
I'll give it to the Oscars, the Grammys. I mean,
it seems like you have the same thought process and
choosing your awards. Why, Brady, who's your most underrated team?
I've got the Chiefs. Look, they're five and four, they
have been awful so far this year, and they're still
in contention. Like they're still in striking distance with everyone else.
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I keep saying this, bet money on Patrick Mahomes. Bet
money on this team to win the division when they
have all of it, because they can't play much worse
and yet they still have a winning record. I love
it until we get the overblown story. Uh. Most underrated
is the Colts. Man. It is definitely the Colts. Uh.
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They have a running attack that is in my opinion, Uh,
the best in the league. I know Cleveland has an
awesome running attack, but this Colts running game is serious,
their defense serious, their offensive line serious. I think as
they continue to move on through the season, you will
see them assert themselves at a higher level and take over.
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I think I think they may even end up overtaking Tennessee.
We tease it. What is the most overblown story so
far this I'll start Kansas City, Kansas City turning it around.
Putting your money on Kansas City. Think of that, Patrick
Mahomes in Kansas City is going to be this team
that ends up climbing from where they are, which is
right there, as Brady said, But you know they are
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fiving four and there's a whack fiving for us. The
whack is fiving four and most overblown five and four
in the league. It's Kansas City and them turning it
around and being this uh juggernaut of a team that
they once were. The magic is gone, guys, uh lee
most overblown, most overclowed story, most most overblown story in
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the NFL The Aaron Rodgers outrage over COVID. Uh. These
losers that covered the NFL that want to grand stand
and stand on their soapbox and criticize Aaron Rodgers for
this stuff. It's all people that are bitter because they
didn't catch on to how he manipulated them months ago.
Now they're angry about it and they want their revenge.
He gets pop fourteen thousand dollars. That's not enough. He
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behaved in a certain way. He deserves to be punished
through the book at him. It's the Aaron Rodgers COVID outrage,
a disgrace to sports media. I would have picked that.
I figured you were going in that direction, so I'm
gonna go with um. I mean, it's literally provided content
for us, and I'm not sure why. Yes, it made
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that big of an impact since his first couple of
seasons of the Giants, and yet it's it's almost like
we're looking in the ocean where everyone's on the watch
from Moby Dick, like we can't wait to see this
gigantic whale surface or crest at some point. I mean,
he wasn't claimed. It's just the whole thing. It's a
bit bizarre. So I'm to say, oh, b J. Bright
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now and we're still talking about it, like we're still
waiting to see where the guy signs and I don't
know if just gonna make any difference once he does
sign You guys, every year we always make our preseason
predictions for what's gonna happen. What was our worst pick
before the season? Jonas, Uh, forty Niners in the Super Bowl?
Just an awful pick. I I can't get it right, man.
I every single year I butcher the Super Bowl pick.
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This is bad. There are three win team, you got
dissension in the front office and the coaching staff now
reportedly potentially the quarterback situation, injuries. They're not a good
football team. And that was an awful pick by me.
The forty Niners. I'm ashamed to say. The Panthers. I
had them being a contender. I had them making the playoffs.
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Doesn't look so much so at this point, Brady, what
were your worst before? Yeah, it's been the Lions. Every
damn time I'm picking the cover this year. I mean,
I can't figure this team out. I really can't, man Like,
every single time I picked him the cover, they just
roll over like a little kittie cat. And then the
times I don't pick him, they fight back like Lions
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in the second half and they cover the spread. I
cannot figure them out at this point. I've just said
they're obviously gonna lose a lot of games, and they're
probably not gonna cover a lot. So I'm not picking
them the rest of the season. I'm just I don't care.
I don't care if they win a game or two,
I don't care. I'm not picking them the cover any spreads,
all right, I just can't figure that team out. Lastly,
you guys, it's your time to call your shot. LaVar.
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Who's your m v P for the season. It's it's
LaVar Jackson, Jackson I'm with I'm with Lamar or LaVar
on LaVar or Lamar. I like LaVar Jackson. He'll be
featured later on tonight. I think he's the m v P.
He's the most important player to his team, and looking round,
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I don't see where this team is at without him.
I'll take Lamar. Yeah, I think you can make that case. Um,
I'm gonna say at this point, though, Kyle Murray, right,
cat mean, come on, they got the best wreck in
the league. He's been special. You know that the stats
aren't necessarily you know, I dropping, but he's he's been great.
You know. I gotta give him credit right now for
the way Um Dave continued to progress in this year,
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in particular now having the best wreck in the NFL.
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