November 29, 2023 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Panthers owner David Tepper creates more worry when defending the pick of Bryce Young. Kevin O’Connell should stick with Josh Dobbs at QB for the Vikes. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Conference Championship Weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar Ar, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Box Floors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey guys, good morning. Hey, Hey heye, still efforting? Uh
the new intros?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I forgot. I wasn't even going to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I know, I forgot to email Lee back full disclosure.
It's my fault.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say I actually I heard that song.
I was like, Oh, Jonash's song sounds like just like.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
His other ones.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah, absolute trash awesome. You couldn't for the difference, No,
because they all saw the exact same.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I think it was a little truth in that day.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean, I think I'm gonna roll with a banger
from the mid nineties. I think that's what I'm gonna
do here.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It doesn't matter, man, I'm going to try to reach
out to video and be like, hey, do you think
there's a chance I could just take Jonaph's spot?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
So damn.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's just it's such bad music.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Man, Listen, I'm not going to sit here and be
judged about Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Why is Jonas' song the first song to go every day?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I don't want it to be.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, why because it's his show. I'll just be
telling people they don't get this, you know, Jonas knocks
is kaiser soul say. I mean, it's just he's verbal
kit to everyone out there. But when you get down
to the brass text there you go, yeah, yeah, there is.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I got a limp.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, you played the game
the right way to make sure everybody thinks that you're
this passive, aggressive little dude. You know what, right, right,
I hear you, man, But you're like the dude that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's all part of the plan. I mean, it's probably
a better plan than what David Tepper has in Carolina.
That's your shikes, because man. He had a fun little
press conference yesterday following the firing of Frank Right, which
we talked about on the show yesterday day as well too,
and well, I mean listen, he explained, Look, they were
falling short in all aspects, that's why they needed to
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move on from Frank Reich. But he also was asked
about some reports that Frank Reich actually wanted c J.
Stroud with the number one pick, and David Tepper responded
to that and explain just what the process was like
and deciding on their young quarterback Bryce Young, no pun
intended over c J. Stroud. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Originally we were going to go to the number two
pick him, and we thought we would get CJ. Because
we thought the Texas were going to pick Bryce, and listen,
we preferred Bryce.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
He was our number one pick.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
We had a lot of conviction. But in answer to
your questions, it's just not the way the process was done.
The process was done the way the process was done.
And again, even though if there was a process with
five people in the room and the way the votes
came in, it was Frank was the first choice. I
always could veto that choice. And even if it was
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Chryce and the came in unanimously, in this particular case,
I could have vetoed that choice. I'm just gonna say
that I supported both choices. I supported the coaches, I
supported the scouts their unanimous opinion, and I supported Frank Rerice.
So whatever's good, bad, are indifferent is ultimately because the
buck stops here, and I take full responsibility for everything.
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But that's the way the process runs. As far as
Bryce Young is concerned, we are totally confident in that pick. Okay,
I think the people that made that pick first, you know,
would be totally confident in that. And for me, I'm
totally confident in agreeing with that pick.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, I'm not totally so unrelatable, I'm not totally confident
in the Carolina Panthers after hearing.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There wait so old on the south of LeVar. Why
do you say that? I mean, because you heard it too.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I just he's just unrelatable. I mean, you're listening. I'm
listening to him, and my airs are bleeding, like they
just started to bleed, like like patch them up. I
don't want to hear it. It sounds disingenuous. It sounds pompous,
It sounds arrogant, it sounds uh, dismissive, and it almost
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has a sense of air like maybe Billions has got
me messed up, man, because no, I'm listening to him
and he sounds like Prince, you know. He sounds like
he sounds like Prince, you know. And and I'm just
sitting here listening and it's like, you're so disingenuous, dude,
Like I have the right to veto Like, bro, we
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know you're the owner.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
You're the owner.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, we all know what you.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Have the power pants to see everything.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You God, you take it, you take it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I mean I would handle this very similar to if
I was an attorney. If I was an attorney, I
would handle it probably in this manner.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
One of the first things you do when I guess if.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It depends on which side you're on, but if you're
deposing someone or you got someone on the stand, what
you're trying to do is take away their credibility if
if they're working against you. So in this instance, I
think how you take away David Tepper's credibility is.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Why should we believe that they think he has to say?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He just fired the past two head coaches, and he
probably said a lot of things that he said he
meant back then to Matt Ruhle, who didn't even make
it three full years, and to Frank Reich, he didn't
even make it a full year. So like, let's just
start there, Like why would we take anything he says
about the process with any truth whatsoever? And on top
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of that, what else is he gonna say in regards
to the decision, whether it actually was Bryce showing or not.
It's not like David Tepper owes us to be honest,
and it's not like he's going to be honest if.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It was c. J.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Stroud, because how's that gonna look, Hey, we just fired
our head coach, but the realities we actually want the
other guy. But you know, our former d coach wanted
this guy and that's why. You know, it's just it's
a whole mess right now. Let me be honest with
you guys. I mean it's it's like, what are you
gonna say? So I sit back and just think, Yeah,
we could play the sound. I just there's not gonna
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be any validity to it because only the people who
are in that room truly know how it went and.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Who was in on it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I go back to do you remember last year when
the Pro Days were happening. Do you remember there was
some sound when Josh McCown like had said something to CJ.
Stroud like you know, we're gonna this or we're gonna that,
and and it sounded like Josh McCown really wanted to,
you know, go with them.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah, do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And the betting odds swung, They swung huge.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And that was like somewhere in the ballpark of the
combat all that right, Yeah, and then it took.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It till like almost right before the draft where they
swung back the other way.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That was an eye opener for me, thinking, Huh, I
wonder if there's a disconnect here between the front office
and the coaching staff, between the coaching staff and the
owner tree, the owner and everyone else. I mean, this
is the first time happened to Washington when they now
Commanders drafted RG three, which seemed like it was the
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owner's pick. Shanahan's apparently wanted Kirk Cousins having got drafted
the same year.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Like you can go down the line on some different scenarios.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Usually this stuff, you know, ends up working itself out,
but I don't know in this case, man, it's just
I don't know why you believe anything.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
David Tepper would.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Say the biggest mistake they made was including DJ Moore
in this trade. That's the biggest mistake they made. Guys
got seventy catches in over one thousand yards and not
exactly the most fluid offense in the NFL where you've
had a starting quarterback get injured. He was catching passes
from Tyson Bagent for a handful of games. You mean
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to tell me that if you were to pull Frank
Raich asaid and said, hey, Frank, you know, if you
could do it all over again, would you have preferred
to keep DJ Moore and maybe include another draft pick.
The answer would be yes. They don't have anything around
Bryce Young. And I think that was the biggest whiff
of all this is that they included a legitimate Pro
(08:19):
Bowl weapon that would have been a really nice compliment
to a young quarterback who needs all the help he
can get, and instead they added that.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Piece in That sounds great, but you could have just
added another receiver to it that caliber. I mean, let's
be honest. You could have done it for the trade deadline.
You could done it in a free agency. I mean
they signed a bunch of guys too, so like, I
know what you're saying. It sounds good, but like they
could have replaced Steven dj Moore with finding someone similar
to DJ Moore. So I just I don't know. I mean,
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that wasn't the biggest mistake that they paid all this.
I mean it was a mistake or part of it,
because they didn't replace him with someone who was his caliber.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Like, yes, you're bought and feeling field.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It has been great for them, Yeah, but they replace
them with someone who could be a number one, who
could you know, threaten to feel deep and all that
which they could have went out looked for other you
know guys O the players.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel bad for Brece s Young, Like I come
away less confident that that he's going to have a
real opportunity there to succeed based on whatever the hell
you call that yesterday and just the Frank Reich's got
to go, you know, I Buck stops here, so on
and so forth, and I just wonder is this and
(09:35):
we were talking about it yesterday. Of course somebody is
going to take the job, But I mean, how attractive
is this of a job now to where if you're
a coach and you've got options out there, It's like, man,
do I really want to go somewhere where this guy's
this impulsive like that, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Gonna have options. You're you're definitely going to weigh out
the options.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean I'll.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Put it this way.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I try to throw my name out there, to put
my name of the hat in the ring.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh can I go?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Sure, I mean we'll get.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You out there. You will be a coach. You'll be
there somewhere. That's fine, LaVar will be called, the defense.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Will be great. Oh geez, that's fine. We'll go backgard
from the radio before you know it. Just hold our.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Spots guy here. At least we'll get a nice payout.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Do you think Ben Johnson should take this job if offered.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, look, it all comes down to money, right, yeah,
I mean, LaVar, if he offered you fifteen million or
more per year, it's gonna be hard for you to.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Be like, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That, especially if you may not have that opportunity somewhere else.
It's just it just comes down, like you said, Jonas,
if you have options, then you you weigh out the
opportunities that are presented to you through those options. If
you really want to be a head coach, chances are
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you're going to have to take over a team that
isn't good. You know why You're going to take over
a team that isn't good because the team that isn't
good just fired their coach and now there's a coach
in vacancy. You're not going to generally have a great
opportunity to take over as a coach in the National
Football League of a really really fine team, that's just
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a Mike Tomlin's. That's timing. That's timing. You know, you
get to take over the Steelers after Bill Cower. You
didn't get rid of Bill Cower because Bill cowerd couldn't
coach and this was a horrible team. You got Bill.
You know, it was time. It was just it was
a transitional time. So when you take over a really
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really good franchise, that's going to be so far and
few in between, you know. And so to me, if
you're getting the opportunity to take over a team as
a head coach, yes, you entertain it, and if you
get the opportunity to take it, I would assume more
more guys than not would take the opportunity, even though,
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oh you know, you only get a limited amount of
times to mess up being a head coach in the National.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Football I mean, there were some stuff out there that
Greg Olsen was interested.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I saw that in that article. I saw that there.
You know, I thought that was interesting. You got I mean,
how you guys think he would do? I mean, Greg
Olsen would be able to go in there. Whoever goes
in there has to tell this owner to shut the
f up, like and go sit in the corner and
be an owner. Like it's okay for you to be
the owner and not be Jerry Jones. Everybody's not going
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to be Jerry Jones. I'm sorry if you're trying. Like
if you thought in your mind you did that interview
and you walked away and you looked in the mirror
after you were done, you were like, yeah, take that, Jerry,
you were grossly mistaking. Jerry Jones is one of the
most brilliant men in terms of how he handles himself
(12:53):
and how he handles the media. Whether knowingly at all
times or not, doesn't really matter. He has been a
brilliant dude and how he does things in the media.
I'm not being able to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Here's the thing about David Tepper that I think you
have to know and understand to I think maybe get
a sense for why he's turned over Matt Rules so
quickly and Frank Reich so quickly. It's his background, Like
you have to look at you know, for example, he
worked at Goldman Sachs as a credit analyst and what
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he was responsible for was, you know, basically.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Bankrupt Season special.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Situations, and so in that what a lot of times
what happens is, you know, you're trying to trying to
fix an issue, right, like something's already been burnt to
the ground, like a business has gone defunct, it's bankrupt,
they don't have any money, or there's other special situations
or workouts as you call him, right, you've got a
loan or something's going on, someone's not able to pay it,
and you're gonna try to structure it to fix it,
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or you just you know, take it over, take over
that company, build that company, back up, selling off right.
You know, that was his background and he's he's been
a fixer in that sense in the financial world. And
I think he looks at his intelligence, his experience and says,
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if I was able to do that at Goldman Sachs
and APPLELUSA Management and be one of the titans in
the finance world, and oh, by the way, I've bought
a minority Steak and the Steelers, and I've seen how
that family organization has run it. I can do this
in the NFL, like I can fix this. I can
look at the numbers, I can look at the data
and the analytics, and I can fix this, and I
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can turn it over and over and over. Then I'll
keep turning over it until we find the right guy,
and I'll just do it fast. Like the problem with
that is, like you forget it is a people person business.
Like what I hate about that is, in no way,
shape or form, does that really care about the development
of the people who are in that building, in particular
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a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And so my.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Concern is more of does his perspective and background does
it really gel or mesh with what it takes to
be successful in football. We know it helps make money,
we know it helps other companies in various industries, but
does it actually help a football team grow and succeed
and achieve and understand how that works in that sort
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of environment.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I don't know. I mean again, I don't I like
bet against smart people.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But there's a lot of smart owners who own football
franchise in the NFL that aren't competitive each year, and
instead they're just trying to run a business and they're
just trying to make a profit. Now, no one wants
to tell you that, but there's only probably about ten
or twelve like every year that you can kind of
bank on. And that's just the reality of it. So
I just I think it's as background as much as
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anything has led to how he's handled this.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
There could be a surprising change in Minnesota and our
friends listening on the Yallahan of the Twin Cities. That
would be the Yalla Horn. Rather, why I say, yallahan,
what the hell's wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I thought you were going to talk about the nd
season tournament? Are we not going to talk about that
this morning?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh god, no, I don't have my unicycle. You know
that big doubledare fest. The NBA rolls out with a
bunch of goofy courts and goes, hey, look at us,
look at this.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
It's differently.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
It's not the same. It's not the regular season. It's different.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Have you seen the courts? Didn't look at anything.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It's just so good.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I could create something that made it look different. It
just had to hit differently to make you feel like
there's something that's steakcare in a different place, a different environment.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Having some good basketball. I heard that works. Jesus Christ
Like it's like.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Oh look at this. We get.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hey, we redesigned our menu. You have the food still
suck that. I don't worry about.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Jill.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
How are you scoring it?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I got a ten nine after three damn But okay, Jim.
But the situation in Minnesota is this. Josh Dobbs just
got there like an hour and a half ago, and
apparently his job is already in jeopardy because the Vikings
reportedly are going to spend the bye week deciding on
which quarterback is going to be the best. I guess
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pastor of the football to one Justin Jefferson that will
know how to utilize him the best. This was Kevin
O'Connell yesterday discussing the plan at QB with returning Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Anytime you can infuse the best receiver in football back
into your offense, there's going to be ways to not
only get Justin going and make sure he has a critical,
critical impact. And the quarterback position absolutely plays into that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Justin depending on the type.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Of coverage that we're playing against, having the ability to
clearly win one on ones, understands how to win versus
double teams, where double teams are coming from, how those
double teams may open up some windows and matchups for
some of the other guys on our offense.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
We're going to make sure.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
That you know, whoever's playing quarterback is aware and understands
the intent behind plays where either Justin is the primary
or based upon coverage, based upon the defensive look. You
know how to quickly and efficiently get to the right
place to go with the football.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And NFL is a cold world.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
H well, that's not really complicated, right, you know, like
it was a whole lot, a whole lot of Yeah,
we're just getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
We want to have the guy they could do it
the best. Yeah, right, could simplify.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Here's why you have to complicate it because you want
to seem like it's complex and you want to seem like, well, hey,
you know, we want to go with this guy because
he's been here and he knows the system, and you know,
it's a complex thing, but you have to get the
ball of Justin Jefferson. Like the reality is they traded
for Nick Moullins. If he's healthy and ready to go,
they probably feel better about his ability throwing the football,
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even though I'd argue, like, I don't know how you
can watch what Josh Dobbs has done and not say, yeah,
maybe we should consider him too. Even though he just
got here. He's smart, he's been able to lose use
multiple systems. I look, I know the Bears game looked bad.
How many of those those four interceptions were tipped?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Three?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Three of them and then the other one go through
Addison's hands.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Ah, god, it might have I forget.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
The first one. Addison should have caught it. Yeah, like
he should have caught it. Like they were saying that
he might have been early. You know, Dobbs might have
been early. No, that is the NFL perfect. He should
have caught it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
So three of the four were for sure tipped, which
at that point, like as a quarterback, like, what do
you want to do if the bull gets tipped at
the light of script, It's like, oh gosh, that guy,
get him out of there. It's okay, Well is it
his fault?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Like he throws in and it hits a wide receiver
perfectly gets volleyball set up, like LaVar gets to watch
with his daughter on the weekends, Like he's watched all
these nice bumps and sets, like that's what it looked
like on Monday night. I'm just like, what do you
want him to do outside of that? You know, you guys,
damn near one in Denver it was a tight game
played well, and you went it in Atlanta, New Orleans
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and he played well like I think. The interesting thing
about this move is if they do move away from Dobbs,
I'll be curious to see if it's Mwen's or Jared
Hall if either of them can use their legs well
enough like he has, which has saved them in some
instances in the game, whether Justin Jefferson comes back or not.
But I could promise you this all right. Kevin o'conne
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is one of the best play callers in the NFL.
Probably doesn't always get the credit for it, but if
you knew the importance that he puts on Justin Jefferson,
and granted he should, Justin Jefferson's one of the best
players in the league, but importance in the sense of
how every single team plays them, and then how that
impacts his play calling and that impacts their game planning
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each week. If you can understand that from that perspective,
you then would understand and say, well, he wants a
guy to come in and run the place how he
thinks they're supposed.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
To be run.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like when you're a great play caller, what sometimes probably
gets frustrating, is like, hey, the play was there, the
guy doesn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
He takes off and runs, gets the first down, and everyone's.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Clapping, but he's like.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Ah, could have thrown for a twenty yard game. Instead
we got a first down. But you, like you time
and time watch that again on film, and you finally
just go, all right, we just we need to make
a change here because we're.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Leaving some opportunities. We're leaving some yards out there.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
On the field.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I mean, that's an essence.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
If they make the switch, what they're gonna point to
and say, And it's fine if that's the case, they
win games. But this is a team that's still in
the playoff hunt, and I think this is a critical
decision for what happens for this team forward, whether or
not they could remain at the playoff or if they
fall off and become a team that is just looking
towards twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What would you guys do, because I'd go with Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Let me ask you guys this, And that's a good question, Jonas,
And I'm I'm gonna tell you what my answer is,
but I want to I want to ask you guys
this before we answer that, do you feel like this
is a pressure cooker for your coach? Do you feel
like the coach is responding because it's a pressure cooker.
I mean, if you're not doing well when you get
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your best receiver back, does this mean that your your
push is not getting pushed but it's heating up.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I think what the job he's done has been pretty
commendable considering Look, I mean, yeah, they did start off poorly,
but you know, without Justin Jefferson and Kirk Cousins, you know,
they were they were what five and two or whatever
it was, Like he's they've they've gotten themselves back into
playoff contention. So I feel like he's done a pretty
good job.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
By the way, Like last year they were what eleven
to zero one score games or something like that.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, they're five.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And five this year, Like that's more of the average,
like not, I mean, we've never seen that in the NFL.
Last year, We've never seen what they were able to
do to get the thirteen wins, and everyone knew they
revert back to that average at some point, and so
now we're here, and to Jonas's point, like they've overcome
so much with the injuries where you had, you're literally
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your best receiver or the best receiver one of them
top two if you would have. Don't think he's won.
You know it gets injured for a good portion of
the season.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Cousins is playing at an MVP level.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Like literally, Jonas, look up right now, where is Kirk
Cousins who hasn't played it.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I don't know how many weeks? What five now?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Go look up and go look up and see where
he ranks for yards Still, I bet he's in the
time forty five. But my point is like you lost
both those guys and you've been five and two since.
It's absurd like they've done a hell of a job
overcoming adversity. So I don't think theres anyway who's in
the hot seat. I just think I'm telling you, man,
like some of these play callers, if things aren't being
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run exactly how they won, they will try to find
somebody who will because they feel like they're they're that
good of a play caller and they're leaving stuff out
there on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And also, I do find it a little bit comical
that Josh Dobbs is on the hot seat because of
a turnover problem three, of which you don't maybe put
totally on him from the other night when this team
was fumbling the football at an alarming rate before he
got there.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Oh, I witnessed that week three, Like I was just like,
what the hell has happened?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So I'm curious how many of those guys also got
benched in favor of somebody else because the turnovers were
such a problem.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Actually, actually, I mean you don't want to say this
direct relation to it, but when camp Akers stuff didn't
work out in LA where they where to go to Minnesota, Yeah,
and he was with a bunch of those guys and
he was drafted there and so to that point, like
Madison's having fubble your shoes.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Oh, just Siames camp Baker showed up, he gets injured.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
They've been able to overcome that, Like it's it's really
it's been a remark season for them so far. But Jonas,
were you able to find the passing leaders in regards
to work Cousins still ranks still efforting?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Are you waitning on lead to do this? It's already
have the answer.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I was looking up the turnover totals in the NFL
because I'm gad to see.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
How Kirk Cousins right now, okay, right now, has not
He's only played eight games. All right, there's other guys
in the league. You've played twelve eleven. He is top twenty.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
In passing.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
If you did touchdowns, mind you all right, touchdown passes again,
hasn't played, only played eight games.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Kirk Cousins is still tenth in the league right now.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's nuts like he was having probably low key one
of the better years and he got no attention for
it at all, and he might have won the MVP
if he stayed on that pace.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Let me ask you a question right now, would you
like the Patriots chances the rest of the season better
with Kirk Cousins injured or a healthy Mac Owns.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
What?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I don't understand That doesn't it makes sense, of course,
because he's injured, he's not there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, but like say you just roll out there, put
him in shotgun and give him a crutch and just say,
all right, figure it out just from the shotgun stance
and then or would you rather roll with Max Jones
completely healthy in New England the rest of them?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, if I'm being honest, I'm gonna take my
chances with Kurt.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Hut Yeah, I think with Lebar in that case, I
feel bad saying that insulting.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'd rather take incomplete than then.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Really yeah, in complete, there's no no completions to the
other team, which would be the problem. Yeah, I don't. Look,
I hope I would like to see Minnesota make the
playoffs with Josh Dobbs a quarterback because I think it's
the appropriate ending to what he's done so far this year.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like, yeah, it would be.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I want that for him, Like I want him to
be rewarded that way.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, But I mean otherwise he's going to end up,
you know, making a spaceship or walking on the Moon
or Mars or something like that.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I mean, I don't have any problems with where Josh
Dobbs will end up landing. I just don't think that
it makes sense to hold him fully accountable for some
of the mishaps that took place in this last game.
That's was what I would say.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, well, Josh Dobbs, like has he spoken about like
like which part of the set that was designed to
fake the moon landing the first time? Like which part?
Like did was he a part of blow? That's what
you really you really believe that, Like was it the
lighting or did he like together like the fake space background,
like which which part of that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
So you're one of those dudes that don't believe that
people really have gone into space likes, I find myself
questioning it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm not gonna lie every time I hear an astronaut
talk about being in space. I don't know why. I
just find it hard to believe that you can get
out of the stratosphere and then get back into it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You want to get people lit up on social media,
just say that the Earth is flat or that the
moon landing was faked.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, that's true, Kyrie Irving has still not been forgiven.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So forgiving that your whole goal, Jonas by saying that
is that what you're looking to do is get people
to just send mean tweets at you so you can
reach tweet them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right now, it's time to class up the joint with
the old p Petros Papadaegas He is the co host
of the Petros and Money show that you can hear
on the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports Fox
College football analyst Petros Good morning.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
All right, Petros, good morning everybody.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
My season is over. I'm done doing college football for
the year.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thank you. Guess everybody at Fox and FS one and
FS two and everywhere that I got to work all
season long?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
How does it feel? Are you sad?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I always feel like it's it's almost like a punch
in the gut at the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
You know, Well, it's hard to watch people work when
you're not working, and that's basically the whole bowl season
if you work at Fox. So yeah, it's a little bittersweet,
but it's always nice to be done and have more
time to watch obscure movies.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Who is the best team you saw all year? Petros?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Oh, that's a sad question.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Why.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Probably Oregon State.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And now they got changes.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yes, yes they do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, Pete. Can I ask you a serious question. Yes,
if a team plays here, we go during the course
of a season and they they some way, somehow happen
to find their way into the conference championship and in
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that conference championship game, they win, they win, and they
don't go to the college playoff. But yet another team
in their conference that doesn't even play in the game,
or played in the game that loss, or was not
ever even in the game, still ends up going to
the college playoff. Isn't there something Unamerican about that? Isn't
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there something totally awful about that?
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Like ketchup on a hot dog?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, I like ketchup on a hot dog, but
it is.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Seen as un American?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I mean, clearly, LeVar, because you like ketch up a
hot dog.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You are not I discredited my point here.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Well, it's a little suspect. Your point is that if
you don't win or go to your conference championship game,
you shouldn't be able to play in the college football player.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You can be a national chant but not even be
a champ of your own conference. Yeah, that even pass
backwards to me.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, that's been one of the huge problems of this
whole system for quite some time, that they have made
it to where the conference championship games don't matter, or
might not matter, or if they're inconvenient, they won't matter.
So absolutely right, it is wrong. It's been stupid ever
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since the whole thing began. You should not be able
to play for the title or in the playoffs if
you did not win your conference. That being said, we
got to find ways to get more than one SEC
team in there, and matters how ESPM and the people
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that they placed in charge of the College Football Playoff,
which they own, basically that's how they set it up.
So it's changing. It's gonna change. It's going to be
to where you don't have to win your championship because
we're going to have a twelve team playoff and all that.
But yes, this system. Look, there's a lot of things
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right now in college football that just feel irrevocably broken.
Sorry that's a big word for this time of morning
for me. But like, we're paying people twenty million dollars.
Dana Holgerson got fourteen million. I think the guy at
in Indiana Allen got ten million to go away.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
More than that, he actually bought it down to fifteen
and a half.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Well there're twenty yeah, there you go. Jimbo got the
International Monetary Fund to leave Texas, A and M. Like
they had to drain three oil wells in Saudi Arabia
for him. So, and then at the other set side
of it, as we talked about last week, we have
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all these people begging for money and Dion talking about
a credit card swipe and everybody's podcast given the gigamaggie's
collective number so they can sift money more money from
the fans as opposed to just begging the rich guy
that wants to be cool and hang out with the team,
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which is the way of college football. But it just
feels like we're not doing if we can pay these
people fifteen million dollars to go away, but we have
to beg the fan base to pay the players because
players cost, and we've created this whole nil thing which
has nothing really to do with name image like this
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at all. It's just pay to play. I mean, if
this isn't more evidence that the schools need to pay
the players, I don't know what is. But it is
a wild time. There's always in congruity in college football
of our I feel like that's what we like about
it in a lot of ways, because it is not
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balanced and all measured out like the NFL or a
pro league. It's chaos, right, and that's fine. But I
agree about the conference championship thing. I do believe that
it's un American and they should take that to Russia
with the Communists.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And the backstore here.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Petros Is LeVar is still upset about the twenty sixteen
season where Penn State won the Big Ten but Ohio
State went instead, and they did get drummed by the
way by Clemson thirty one and nothing in the semi
final games, So maybe it would have been a little
more competitive too have Penn State take on.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I think it's a fair I think I'd made that
point on the air back then. And by the way,
you go to Russia with the Communists as part of
the greatest and I don't know if we've discussed this before,
oh but part of the greatest pregame speech and the
history of television or any movie in the great recruiting
movie of the eighties, and I don't ever want to
hear about stupid ass any given Sunday with the guy's
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eye popping out and dumbass al Pacino, Jesse Spano and
all that Johnny be Good starring Robert Downey Junior as
the backup quarterback and actually starring Anthony Michael Hall. I
just couldn't remember his name as Johnny be Good, the
nineteen eighties high school recruiting into college movie about a
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very a very talented quarterback who wins state championship after
state championship in Indiana. He's got an a hole head
coach who is the same guy who's an a hole
in Breakfast Club. Oh, yeah, that's the great actor.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
He was probably the best a holes of a holes.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yes, what of you guys can pull his name on.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was in Lethal Weapon too.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Yeah, he's great. You got Diehard.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
I think he was on the field too for that
Patriots Bills game.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Paul Paul Glease in his past. But but he gives
a speech, you know, early in the game in the
movie at the beginning of the movie, and he says
something like, you know, he's doing a prayer and he's
saying like, may no one be hurt on our side.
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He goes on and on and he goes I'm a winner.
I want to win. If you're a loser, you go
over there to Russia with the comedies. It's just it's
the greatest line in the history of football to me.
And if you do want to lose, you should go
over to Russia with the commis or I don't even
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believe Russia is a communist country.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Just still put ketchup on your hot dog, right, that's
part of it, right, right?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Or let somebody if you're Brady Quinn, or let somebody
out of college.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You can't let anybody into the college football playoff either
if they didn't win the conference champion.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Petros Does it warm your heart to see Bobby Petrino
back at Arkansas's offensive coordinator considering how he left?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I mean, I guess if you can call plays, you know,
you know, there's some people that have a certain talent
it can't be denied, right, and that that talent overrides
some other, maybe perhaps character issues. What do you do wrong? Well, look,
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some people are really into volleyball people, right, They're long
and tall and irresistible to something. I'm more of a
lobaro guy, although I don't find anybody compact lower to
the ground I enjoy. Yeah, I like, can you go
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you're an outside guy. I like somebody to look more
like the volleyball I mean, if we're talking about preference,
but look, uh, let's just I'm going to turn this
into something that we've probably discussed before. But you know,
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if you live in an athletic department, there's all kinds
of people around, and many of them elite athletes or
former elite athletes that are coaching elite athletes now and
quite attractive. Just put it like that. And at USC
we had an elite and still do a swimming program,
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and everybody would just and and everybody would marvel at
the fact that you know, you're on your way to
go get taped and run at you know, five point
thirty in the morning and they're already in the pool.
You know, you're coming home from school at four in
the afternoon, they're back in the pool while you walk by.
I mean, these people are always in the pool. There's
girls there too. It's not like, you know, there's also
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girls on the swim team. It's not like you have
a girl playing Sam Baker, you know when you're playing
at se so you're you're on the team with women
and no one wears anything. They don't wear anything. So
they're staring at each other naked all day working out,
and all they do when they swim is stare at
the bottom of a pool. You know, there's a reason
nobody popped out of a pool and like solve the
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world problem. You know, you don't have a lot of
time to study while you're staring at the bottom of
a pool. But once a month, the swimmers would throw
a swimmer party, which would become just a volcano of
decadence like Caligula, because all they did was work out
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and stare at each other naked, and everybody in the
athletic department or anybody that lived close or maybe somebody
that knew somebody would try to get into that swimmer
party because they were truly, truly an absolute well let's
just say, like an orgy, and you'd have people running around,
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you know, wearing their gold medal that they just won
in Sydney, swinging off their naked body on some kind
of MDMA drug. Anyway. I have had this experience talking
to other people about this from universities, and they also
seeked out the swimmer parties because they were you know,
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because the nature of the swimmers I mean delivers why
you know why, you know, they really did. And you know,
if you're a football player, you might be able to
run up on like a more insecure girl who's got
huge shoulders, you know, and be like, hey, it's okay
that you got big ass arms and shoulders. Mine are bigger,
And I'm okay with this. You know, I love looks
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like a kite.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I love going behind the scenes with the way Petros's
mind works. Well, I'm just saying that that Bobby Petrino
fell victim to that. You know, it's a long and
lean specimen.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
And you know, like he was, you know, running around
out in the uh the bush, he got excited and
crashed his bike.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, what happens in the bush when you're running around
like that?
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Uh, you fall to animal instincts.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Do you go down on all fours or do you
just continue?
Speaker 6 (42:08):
I don't know what he did. You're gonna have to
ask Bobby. But he got all scratched up erectus or
was he one of the great photos in the history
of football? Is have all scratched up freaking neck brace.
So he was certainly a homo erectus with the neck brace.
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If he was an animal, they would have put one
of those dog of saucer things.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Could lick himself.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Led to him getting that that neck brace on.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Yeah, Petrino Patrino was like the it's like the uh,
he's sort of like the the equivalent of like an
action hero for hire. Right, he took a job at
UNLV for like two weeks last year, and A and
M called and he was like I gotta go, you know,
I mean, this guy's pretty unreal. And now he's back
at Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Good for him.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Yeah, I hope he called some great plays.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, Petros, you've called great plays on this show throughout
the course of this interview, and we appreciate it. You
can get them on Twitter at the old.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
P That's what's the big worst part about COVID for college.
By the way, the end of the swimmer parties. I
hope they're back.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, that was a great story. You know, this is
a great story. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
It's okay that you got shoulders and arms like the
field end on this football team. I'm personally a fan
of swimmers. Personally, they're like human hang gliders too. So
what are you studying the bottom of the pool? What
about you?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I mean that takes talent that you got to be
gifted to be able to study the bottom of a pool.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Yeah, well these were you know, I mean, and we
had to e lead Olympic athletes. I'm just you know,
None of them went on to all world problems
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Like us, Yeah, what we do here exactly right,
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar Ar, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Box Floors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey guys, good morning. Hey, Hey heye, still efforting? Uh
the new intros?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I forgot. I wasn't even going to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I know, I forgot to email Lee back full disclosure.
It's my fault.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say I actually I heard that song.
I was like, Oh, Jonash's song sounds like just like.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
His other ones.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah, absolute trash awesome. You couldn't for the difference, No,
because they all saw the exact same.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I think it was a little truth in that day.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean, I think I'm gonna roll with a banger
from the mid nineties. I think that's what I'm gonna
do here.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It doesn't matter, man, I'm going to try to reach
out to video and be like, hey, do you think
there's a chance I could just take Jonaph's spot?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
So damn.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's just it's such bad music.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Man, Listen, I'm not going to sit here and be
judged about Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Why is Jonas' song the first song to go every day?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I don't want it to be.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, why because it's his show. I'll just be
telling people they don't get this, you know, Jonas knocks
is kaiser soul say. I mean, it's just he's verbal
kit to everyone out there. But when you get down
to the brass text there you go, yeah, yeah, there is.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I got a limp.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, you played the game
the right way to make sure everybody thinks that you're
this passive, aggressive little dude. You know what, right, right,
I hear you, man, But you're like the dude that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's all part of the plan. I mean, it's probably
a better plan than what David Tepper has in Carolina.
That's your shikes, because man. He had a fun little
press conference yesterday following the firing of Frank Right, which
we talked about on the show yesterday day as well too,
and well, I mean listen, he explained, Look, they were
falling short in all aspects, that's why they needed to
(02:06):
move on from Frank Reich. But he also was asked
about some reports that Frank Reich actually wanted c J.
Stroud with the number one pick, and David Tepper responded
to that and explain just what the process was like
and deciding on their young quarterback Bryce Young, no pun
intended over c J. Stroud. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Originally we were going to go to the number two
pick him, and we thought we would get CJ. Because
we thought the Texas were going to pick Bryce, and listen,
we preferred Bryce.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
He was our number one pick.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
We had a lot of conviction. But in answer to
your questions, it's just not the way the process was done.
The process was done the way the process was done.
And again, even though if there was a process with
five people in the room and the way the votes
came in, it was Frank was the first choice. I
always could veto that choice. And even if it was
(02:59):
Chryce and the came in unanimously, in this particular case,
I could have vetoed that choice. I'm just gonna say
that I supported both choices. I supported the coaches, I
supported the scouts their unanimous opinion, and I supported Frank Rerice.
So whatever's good, bad, are indifferent is ultimately because the
buck stops here, and I take full responsibility for everything.
(03:20):
But that's the way the process runs. As far as
Bryce Young is concerned, we are totally confident in that pick. Okay,
I think the people that made that pick first, you know,
would be totally confident in that. And for me, I'm
totally confident in agreeing with that pick.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, I'm not totally so unrelatable, I'm not totally confident
in the Carolina Panthers after hearing.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There wait so old on the south of LeVar. Why
do you say that? I mean, because you heard it too.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I just he's just unrelatable. I mean, you're listening. I'm
listening to him, and my airs are bleeding, like they
just started to bleed, like like patch them up. I
don't want to hear it. It sounds disingenuous. It sounds pompous,
It sounds arrogant, it sounds uh, dismissive, and it almost
(04:13):
has a sense of air like maybe Billions has got
me messed up, man, because no, I'm listening to him
and he sounds like Prince, you know. He sounds like
he sounds like Prince, you know. And and I'm just
sitting here listening and it's like, you're so disingenuous, dude,
Like I have the right to veto Like, bro, we
(04:34):
know you're the owner.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
You're the owner.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, we all know what you.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Have the power pants to see everything.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You God, you take it, you take it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I mean I would handle this very similar to if
I was an attorney. If I was an attorney, I
would handle it probably in this manner.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
One of the first things you do when I guess if.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It depends on which side you're on, but if you're
deposing someone or you got someone on the stand, what
you're trying to do is take away their credibility if
if they're working against you. So in this instance, I
think how you take away David Tepper's credibility is.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Why should we believe that they think he has to say?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He just fired the past two head coaches, and he
probably said a lot of things that he said he
meant back then to Matt Ruhle, who didn't even make
it three full years, and to Frank Reich, he didn't
even make it a full year. So like, let's just
start there, Like why would we take anything he says
about the process with any truth whatsoever? And on top
(05:43):
of that, what else is he gonna say in regards
to the decision, whether it actually was Bryce showing or not.
It's not like David Tepper owes us to be honest,
and it's not like he's going to be honest if.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It was c. J.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Stroud, because how's that gonna look, Hey, we just fired
our head coach, but the realities we actually want the
other guy. But you know, our former d coach wanted
this guy and that's why. You know, it's just it's
a whole mess right now. Let me be honest with
you guys. I mean it's it's like, what are you
gonna say? So I sit back and just think, Yeah,
we could play the sound. I just there's not gonna
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be any validity to it because only the people who
are in that room truly know how it went and.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Who was in on it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I go back to do you remember last year when
the Pro Days were happening. Do you remember there was
some sound when Josh McCown like had said something to CJ.
Stroud like you know, we're gonna this or we're gonna that,
and and it sounded like Josh McCown really wanted to,
you know, go with them.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah, do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And the betting odds swung, They swung huge.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And that was like somewhere in the ballpark of the
combat all that right, Yeah, and then it took.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It till like almost right before the draft where they
swung back the other way.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That was an eye opener for me, thinking, Huh, I
wonder if there's a disconnect here between the front office
and the coaching staff, between the coaching staff and the
owner tree, the owner and everyone else. I mean, this
is the first time happened to Washington when they now
Commanders drafted RG three, which seemed like it was the
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owner's pick. Shanahan's apparently wanted Kirk Cousins having got drafted
the same year.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Like you can go down the line on some different scenarios.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Usually this stuff, you know, ends up working itself out,
but I don't know in this case, man, it's just
I don't know why you believe anything.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
David Tepper would.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Say the biggest mistake they made was including DJ Moore
in this trade. That's the biggest mistake they made. Guys
got seventy catches in over one thousand yards and not
exactly the most fluid offense in the NFL where you've
had a starting quarterback get injured. He was catching passes
from Tyson Bagent for a handful of games. You mean
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to tell me that if you were to pull Frank
Raich asaid and said, hey, Frank, you know, if you
could do it all over again, would you have preferred
to keep DJ Moore and maybe include another draft pick.
The answer would be yes. They don't have anything around
Bryce Young. And I think that was the biggest whiff
of all this is that they included a legitimate Pro
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Bowl weapon that would have been a really nice compliment
to a young quarterback who needs all the help he
can get, and instead they added that.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Piece in That sounds great, but you could have just
added another receiver to it that caliber. I mean, let's
be honest. You could have done it for the trade deadline.
You could done it in a free agency. I mean
they signed a bunch of guys too, so like, I
know what you're saying. It sounds good, but like they
could have replaced Steven dj Moore with finding someone similar
to DJ Moore. So I just I don't know. I mean,
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that wasn't the biggest mistake that they paid all this.
I mean it was a mistake or part of it,
because they didn't replace him with someone who was his caliber.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Like, yes, you're bought and feeling field.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It has been great for them, Yeah, but they replace
them with someone who could be a number one, who
could you know, threaten to feel deep and all that
which they could have went out looked for other you
know guys O the players.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel bad for Brece s Young, Like I come
away less confident that that he's going to have a
real opportunity there to succeed based on whatever the hell
you call that yesterday and just the Frank Reich's got
to go, you know, I Buck stops here, so on
and so forth, and I just wonder is this and
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we were talking about it yesterday. Of course somebody is
going to take the job, But I mean, how attractive
is this of a job now to where if you're
a coach and you've got options out there, It's like, man,
do I really want to go somewhere where this guy's
this impulsive like that, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Gonna have options. You're you're definitely going to weigh out
the options.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean I'll.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Put it this way.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I try to throw my name out there, to put
my name of the hat in the ring.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh can I go?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Sure, I mean we'll get.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You out there. You will be a coach. You'll be
there somewhere. That's fine, LaVar will be called, the defense.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Will be great. Oh geez, that's fine. We'll go backgard
from the radio before you know it. Just hold our.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Spots guy here. At least we'll get a nice payout.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Do you think Ben Johnson should take this job if offered.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, look, it all comes down to money, right, yeah,
I mean, LaVar, if he offered you fifteen million or
more per year, it's gonna be hard for you to.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Be like, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That, especially if you may not have that opportunity somewhere else.
It's just it just comes down, like you said, Jonas,
if you have options, then you you weigh out the
opportunities that are presented to you through those options. If
you really want to be a head coach, chances are
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you're going to have to take over a team that
isn't good. You know why You're going to take over
a team that isn't good because the team that isn't
good just fired their coach and now there's a coach
in vacancy. You're not going to generally have a great
opportunity to take over as a coach in the National
Football League of a really really fine team, that's just
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a Mike Tomlin's. That's timing. That's timing. You know, you
get to take over the Steelers after Bill Cower. You
didn't get rid of Bill Cower because Bill cowerd couldn't
coach and this was a horrible team. You got Bill.
You know, it was time. It was just it was
a transitional time. So when you take over a really
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really good franchise, that's going to be so far and
few in between, you know. And so to me, if
you're getting the opportunity to take over a team as
a head coach, yes, you entertain it, and if you
get the opportunity to take it, I would assume more
more guys than not would take the opportunity, even though,
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oh you know, you only get a limited amount of
times to mess up being a head coach in the National.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Football I mean, there were some stuff out there that
Greg Olsen was interested.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I saw that in that article. I saw that there.
You know, I thought that was interesting. You got I mean,
how you guys think he would do? I mean, Greg
Olsen would be able to go in there. Whoever goes
in there has to tell this owner to shut the
f up, like and go sit in the corner and
be an owner. Like it's okay for you to be
the owner and not be Jerry Jones. Everybody's not going
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to be Jerry Jones. I'm sorry if you're trying. Like
if you thought in your mind you did that interview
and you walked away and you looked in the mirror
after you were done, you were like, yeah, take that, Jerry,
you were grossly mistaking. Jerry Jones is one of the
most brilliant men in terms of how he handles himself
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and how he handles the media. Whether knowingly at all
times or not, doesn't really matter. He has been a
brilliant dude and how he does things in the media.
I'm not being able to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Here's the thing about David Tepper that I think you
have to know and understand to I think maybe get
a sense for why he's turned over Matt Rules so
quickly and Frank Reich so quickly. It's his background, Like
you have to look at you know, for example, he
worked at Goldman Sachs as a credit analyst and what
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he was responsible for was, you know, basically.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Bankrupt Season special.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Situations, and so in that what a lot of times
what happens is, you know, you're trying to trying to
fix an issue, right, like something's already been burnt to
the ground, like a business has gone defunct, it's bankrupt,
they don't have any money, or there's other special situations
or workouts as you call him, right, you've got a
loan or something's going on, someone's not able to pay it,
and you're gonna try to structure it to fix it,
(13:58):
or you just you know, take it over, take over
that company, build that company, back up, selling off right.
You know, that was his background and he's he's been
a fixer in that sense in the financial world. And
I think he looks at his intelligence, his experience and says,
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if I was able to do that at Goldman Sachs
and APPLELUSA Management and be one of the titans in
the finance world, and oh, by the way, I've bought
a minority Steak and the Steelers, and I've seen how
that family organization has run it. I can do this
in the NFL, like I can fix this. I can
look at the numbers, I can look at the data
and the analytics, and I can fix this, and I
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can turn it over and over and over. Then I'll
keep turning over it until we find the right guy,
and I'll just do it fast. Like the problem with
that is, like you forget it is a people person business.
Like what I hate about that is, in no way,
shape or form, does that really care about the development
of the people who are in that building, in particular
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a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And so my.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Concern is more of does his perspective and background does
it really gel or mesh with what it takes to
be successful in football. We know it helps make money,
we know it helps other companies in various industries, but
does it actually help a football team grow and succeed
and achieve and understand how that works in that sort
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of environment.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I don't know. I mean again, I don't I like
bet against smart people.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But there's a lot of smart owners who own football
franchise in the NFL that aren't competitive each year, and
instead they're just trying to run a business and they're
just trying to make a profit. Now, no one wants
to tell you that, but there's only probably about ten
or twelve like every year that you can kind of
bank on. And that's just the reality of it. So
I just I think it's as background as much as
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anything has led to how he's handled this.
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
There could be a surprising change in Minnesota and our
friends listening on the Yallahan of the Twin Cities. That
would be the Yalla Horn. Rather, why I say, yallahan,
what the hell's wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I thought you were going to talk about the nd
season tournament? Are we not going to talk about that
this morning?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh god, no, I don't have my unicycle. You know
that big doubledare fest. The NBA rolls out with a
bunch of goofy courts and goes, hey, look at us,
look at this.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
It's differently.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
It's not the same. It's not the regular season. It's different.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Have you seen the courts? Didn't look at anything.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It's just so good.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I could create something that made it look different. It
just had to hit differently to make you feel like
there's something that's steakcare in a different place, a different environment.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Having some good basketball. I heard that works. Jesus Christ
Like it's like.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Oh look at this. We get.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hey, we redesigned our menu. You have the food still
suck that. I don't worry about.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Jill.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
How are you scoring it?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I got a ten nine after three damn But okay, Jim.
But the situation in Minnesota is this. Josh Dobbs just
got there like an hour and a half ago, and
apparently his job is already in jeopardy because the Vikings
reportedly are going to spend the bye week deciding on
which quarterback is going to be the best. I guess
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pastor of the football to one Justin Jefferson that will
know how to utilize him the best. This was Kevin
O'Connell yesterday discussing the plan at QB with returning Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Anytime you can infuse the best receiver in football back
into your offense, there's going to be ways to not
only get Justin going and make sure he has a critical,
critical impact. And the quarterback position absolutely plays into that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Justin depending on the type.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Of coverage that we're playing against, having the ability to
clearly win one on ones, understands how to win versus
double teams, where double teams are coming from, how those
double teams may open up some windows and matchups for
some of the other guys on our offense.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
We're going to make sure.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
That you know, whoever's playing quarterback is aware and understands
the intent behind plays where either Justin is the primary
or based upon coverage, based upon the defensive look. You
know how to quickly and efficiently get to the right
place to go with the football.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And NFL is a cold world.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
H well, that's not really complicated, right, you know, like
it was a whole lot, a whole lot of Yeah,
we're just getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
We want to have the guy they could do it
the best. Yeah, right, could simplify.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Here's why you have to complicate it because you want
to seem like it's complex and you want to seem like, well, hey,
you know, we want to go with this guy because
he's been here and he knows the system, and you know,
it's a complex thing, but you have to get the
ball of Justin Jefferson. Like the reality is they traded
for Nick Moullins. If he's healthy and ready to go,
they probably feel better about his ability throwing the football,
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even though I'd argue, like, I don't know how you
can watch what Josh Dobbs has done and not say, yeah,
maybe we should consider him too. Even though he just
got here. He's smart, he's been able to lose use
multiple systems. I look, I know the Bears game looked bad.
How many of those those four interceptions were tipped?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Three?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Three of them and then the other one go through
Addison's hands.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Ah, god, it might have I forget.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
The first one. Addison should have caught it. Yeah, like
he should have caught it. Like they were saying that
he might have been early. You know, Dobbs might have
been early. No, that is the NFL perfect. He should
have caught it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
So three of the four were for sure tipped, which
at that point, like as a quarterback, like, what do
you want to do if the bull gets tipped at
the light of script, It's like, oh gosh, that guy,
get him out of there. It's okay, Well is it
his fault?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Like he throws in and it hits a wide receiver
perfectly gets volleyball set up, like LaVar gets to watch
with his daughter on the weekends, Like he's watched all
these nice bumps and sets, like that's what it looked
like on Monday night. I'm just like, what do you
want him to do outside of that? You know, you guys,
damn near one in Denver it was a tight game
played well, and you went it in Atlanta, New Orleans
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and he played well like I think. The interesting thing
about this move is if they do move away from Dobbs,
I'll be curious to see if it's Mwen's or Jared
Hall if either of them can use their legs well
enough like he has, which has saved them in some
instances in the game, whether Justin Jefferson comes back or not.
But I could promise you this all right. Kevin o'conne
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is one of the best play callers in the NFL.
Probably doesn't always get the credit for it, but if
you knew the importance that he puts on Justin Jefferson,
and granted he should, Justin Jefferson's one of the best
players in the league, but importance in the sense of
how every single team plays them, and then how that
impacts his play calling and that impacts their game planning
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each week. If you can understand that from that perspective,
you then would understand and say, well, he wants a
guy to come in and run the place how he
thinks they're supposed.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
To be run.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like when you're a great play caller, what sometimes probably
gets frustrating, is like, hey, the play was there, the
guy doesn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
He takes off and runs, gets the first down, and everyone's.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Clapping, but he's like.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Ah, could have thrown for a twenty yard game. Instead
we got a first down. But you, like you time
and time watch that again on film, and you finally
just go, all right, we just we need to make
a change here because we're.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Leaving some opportunities. We're leaving some yards out there.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
On the field.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I mean, that's an essence.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
If they make the switch, what they're gonna point to
and say, And it's fine if that's the case, they
win games. But this is a team that's still in
the playoff hunt, and I think this is a critical
decision for what happens for this team forward, whether or
not they could remain at the playoff or if they
fall off and become a team that is just looking
towards twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What would you guys do, because I'd go with Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Let me ask you guys this, And that's a good question, Jonas,
And I'm I'm gonna tell you what my answer is,
but I want to I want to ask you guys
this before we answer that, do you feel like this
is a pressure cooker for your coach? Do you feel
like the coach is responding because it's a pressure cooker.
I mean, if you're not doing well when you get
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your best receiver back, does this mean that your your
push is not getting pushed but it's heating up.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I think what the job he's done has been pretty
commendable considering Look, I mean, yeah, they did start off poorly,
but you know, without Justin Jefferson and Kirk Cousins, you know,
they were they were what five and two or whatever
it was, Like he's they've they've gotten themselves back into
playoff contention. So I feel like he's done a pretty
good job.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
By the way, Like last year they were what eleven
to zero one score games or something like that.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, they're five.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And five this year, Like that's more of the average,
like not, I mean, we've never seen that in the NFL.
Last year, We've never seen what they were able to
do to get the thirteen wins, and everyone knew they
revert back to that average at some point, and so
now we're here, and to Jonas's point, like they've overcome
so much with the injuries where you had, you're literally
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your best receiver or the best receiver one of them
top two if you would have. Don't think he's won.
You know it gets injured for a good portion of
the season.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Cousins is playing at an MVP level.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Like literally, Jonas, look up right now, where is Kirk
Cousins who hasn't played it.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I don't know how many weeks? What five now?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Go look up and go look up and see where
he ranks for yards Still, I bet he's in the
time forty five. But my point is like you lost
both those guys and you've been five and two since.
It's absurd like they've done a hell of a job
overcoming adversity. So I don't think theres anyway who's in
the hot seat. I just think I'm telling you, man,
like some of these play callers, if things aren't being
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run exactly how they won, they will try to find
somebody who will because they feel like they're they're that
good of a play caller and they're leaving stuff out
there on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And also, I do find it a little bit comical
that Josh Dobbs is on the hot seat because of
a turnover problem three, of which you don't maybe put
totally on him from the other night when this team
was fumbling the football at an alarming rate before he
got there.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Oh, I witnessed that week three, Like I was just like,
what the hell has happened?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So I'm curious how many of those guys also got
benched in favor of somebody else because the turnovers were
such a problem.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Actually, actually, I mean you don't want to say this
direct relation to it, but when camp Akers stuff didn't
work out in LA where they where to go to Minnesota, Yeah,
and he was with a bunch of those guys and
he was drafted there and so to that point, like
Madison's having fubble your shoes.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Oh, just Siames camp Baker showed up, he gets injured.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
They've been able to overcome that, Like it's it's really
it's been a remark season for them so far. But Jonas,
were you able to find the passing leaders in regards
to work Cousins still ranks still efforting?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Are you waitning on lead to do this? It's already
have the answer.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I was looking up the turnover totals in the NFL
because I'm gad to see.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
How Kirk Cousins right now, okay, right now, has not
He's only played eight games. All right, there's other guys
in the league. You've played twelve eleven. He is top twenty.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
In passing.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
If you did touchdowns, mind you all right, touchdown passes again,
hasn't played, only played eight games.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Kirk Cousins is still tenth in the league right now.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's nuts like he was having probably low key one
of the better years and he got no attention for
it at all, and he might have won the MVP
if he stayed on that pace.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Let me ask you a question right now, would you
like the Patriots chances the rest of the season better
with Kirk Cousins injured or a healthy Mac Owns.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
What?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I don't understand That doesn't it makes sense, of course,
because he's injured, he's not there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, but like say you just roll out there, put
him in shotgun and give him a crutch and just say,
all right, figure it out just from the shotgun stance
and then or would you rather roll with Max Jones
completely healthy in New England the rest of them?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, if I'm being honest, I'm gonna take my
chances with Kurt.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Hut Yeah, I think with Lebar in that case, I
feel bad saying that insulting.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'd rather take incomplete than then.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Really yeah, in complete, there's no no completions to the
other team, which would be the problem. Yeah, I don't. Look,
I hope I would like to see Minnesota make the
playoffs with Josh Dobbs a quarterback because I think it's
the appropriate ending to what he's done so far this year.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like, yeah, it would be.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I want that for him, Like I want him to
be rewarded that way.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, But I mean otherwise he's going to end up,
you know, making a spaceship or walking on the Moon
or Mars or something like that.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I mean, I don't have any problems with where Josh
Dobbs will end up landing. I just don't think that
it makes sense to hold him fully accountable for some
of the mishaps that took place in this last game.
That's was what I would say.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, well, Josh Dobbs, like has he spoken about like
like which part of the set that was designed to
fake the moon landing the first time? Like which part?
Like did was he a part of blow? That's what
you really you really believe that, Like was it the
lighting or did he like together like the fake space background,
like which which part of that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
So you're one of those dudes that don't believe that
people really have gone into space likes, I find myself
questioning it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm not gonna lie every time I hear an astronaut
talk about being in space. I don't know why. I
just find it hard to believe that you can get
out of the stratosphere and then get back into it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You want to get people lit up on social media,
just say that the Earth is flat or that the
moon landing was faked.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, that's true, Kyrie Irving has still not been forgiven.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So forgiving that your whole goal, Jonas by saying that
is that what you're looking to do is get people
to just send mean tweets at you so you can
reach tweet them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
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Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right now, it's time to class up the joint with
the old p Petros Papadaegas He is the co host
of the Petros and Money show that you can hear
on the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports Fox
College football analyst Petros Good morning.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
All right, Petros, good morning everybody.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
My season is over. I'm done doing college football for
the year.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thank you. Guess everybody at Fox and FS one and
FS two and everywhere that I got to work all
season long?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
How does it feel? Are you sad?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I always feel like it's it's almost like a punch
in the gut at the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
You know, Well, it's hard to watch people work when
you're not working, and that's basically the whole bowl season
if you work at Fox. So yeah, it's a little bittersweet,
but it's always nice to be done and have more
time to watch obscure movies.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Who is the best team you saw all year? Petros?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Oh, that's a sad question.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Why.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Probably Oregon State.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And now they got changes.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yes, yes they do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, Pete. Can I ask you a serious question. Yes,
if a team plays here, we go during the course
of a season and they they some way, somehow happen
to find their way into the conference championship and in
(30:53):
that conference championship game, they win, they win, and they
don't go to the college playoff. But yet another team
in their conference that doesn't even play in the game,
or played in the game that loss, or was not
ever even in the game, still ends up going to
the college playoff. Isn't there something Unamerican about that? Isn't
(31:18):
there something totally awful about that?
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Like ketchup on a hot dog?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, I like ketchup on a hot dog, but
it is.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Seen as un American?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I mean, clearly, LeVar, because you like ketch up a
hot dog.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You are not I discredited my point here.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Well, it's a little suspect. Your point is that if
you don't win or go to your conference championship game,
you shouldn't be able to play in the college football player.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You can be a national chant but not even be
a champ of your own conference. Yeah, that even pass
backwards to me.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, that's been one of the huge problems of this
whole system for quite some time, that they have made
it to where the conference championship games don't matter, or
might not matter, or if they're inconvenient, they won't matter.
So absolutely right, it is wrong. It's been stupid ever
(32:15):
since the whole thing began. You should not be able
to play for the title or in the playoffs if
you did not win your conference. That being said, we
got to find ways to get more than one SEC
team in there, and matters how ESPM and the people
(32:36):
that they placed in charge of the College Football Playoff,
which they own, basically that's how they set it up.
So it's changing. It's gonna change. It's going to be
to where you don't have to win your championship because
we're going to have a twelve team playoff and all that.
But yes, this system. Look, there's a lot of things
(32:58):
right now in college football that just feel irrevocably broken.
Sorry that's a big word for this time of morning
for me. But like, we're paying people twenty million dollars.
Dana Holgerson got fourteen million. I think the guy at
in Indiana Allen got ten million to go away.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
More than that, he actually bought it down to fifteen
and a half.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Well there're twenty yeah, there you go. Jimbo got the
International Monetary Fund to leave Texas, A and M. Like
they had to drain three oil wells in Saudi Arabia
for him. So, and then at the other set side
of it, as we talked about last week, we have
(33:40):
all these people begging for money and Dion talking about
a credit card swipe and everybody's podcast given the gigamaggie's
collective number so they can sift money more money from
the fans as opposed to just begging the rich guy
that wants to be cool and hang out with the team,
(34:01):
which is the way of college football. But it just
feels like we're not doing if we can pay these
people fifteen million dollars to go away, but we have
to beg the fan base to pay the players because
players cost, and we've created this whole nil thing which
has nothing really to do with name image like this
(34:21):
at all. It's just pay to play. I mean, if
this isn't more evidence that the schools need to pay
the players, I don't know what is. But it is
a wild time. There's always in congruity in college football
of our I feel like that's what we like about
it in a lot of ways, because it is not
(34:45):
balanced and all measured out like the NFL or a
pro league. It's chaos, right, and that's fine. But I
agree about the conference championship thing. I do believe that
it's un American and they should take that to Russia
with the Communists.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And the backstore here.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Petros Is LeVar is still upset about the twenty sixteen
season where Penn State won the Big Ten but Ohio
State went instead, and they did get drummed by the
way by Clemson thirty one and nothing in the semi
final games, So maybe it would have been a little
more competitive too have Penn State take on.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I think it's a fair I think I'd made that
point on the air back then. And by the way,
you go to Russia with the Communists as part of
the greatest and I don't know if we've discussed this before,
oh but part of the greatest pregame speech and the
history of television or any movie in the great recruiting
movie of the eighties, and I don't ever want to
hear about stupid ass any given Sunday with the guy's
(35:45):
eye popping out and dumbass al Pacino, Jesse Spano and
all that Johnny be Good starring Robert Downey Junior as
the backup quarterback and actually starring Anthony Michael Hall. I
just couldn't remember his name as Johnny be Good, the
nineteen eighties high school recruiting into college movie about a
(36:10):
very a very talented quarterback who wins state championship after
state championship in Indiana. He's got an a hole head
coach who is the same guy who's an a hole
in Breakfast Club. Oh, yeah, that's the great actor.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
He was probably the best a holes of a holes.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yes, what of you guys can pull his name on.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was in Lethal Weapon too.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Yeah, he's great. You got Diehard.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
I think he was on the field too for that
Patriots Bills game.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Paul Paul Glease in his past. But but he gives
a speech, you know, early in the game in the
movie at the beginning of the movie, and he says
something like, you know, he's doing a prayer and he's
saying like, may no one be hurt on our side.
(37:02):
He goes on and on and he goes I'm a winner.
I want to win. If you're a loser, you go
over there to Russia with the comedies. It's just it's
the greatest line in the history of football to me.
And if you do want to lose, you should go
over to Russia with the commis or I don't even
(37:22):
believe Russia is a communist country.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Just still put ketchup on your hot dog, right, that's
part of it, right, right?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Or let somebody if you're Brady Quinn, or let somebody
out of college.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You can't let anybody into the college football playoff either
if they didn't win the conference champion.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Petros Does it warm your heart to see Bobby Petrino
back at Arkansas's offensive coordinator considering how he left?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I mean, I guess if you can call plays, you know,
you know, there's some people that have a certain talent
it can't be denied, right, and that that talent overrides
some other, maybe perhaps character issues. What do you do wrong? Well, look,
(38:13):
some people are really into volleyball people, right, They're long
and tall and irresistible to something. I'm more of a
lobaro guy, although I don't find anybody compact lower to
the ground I enjoy. Yeah, I like, can you go
(38:34):
you're an outside guy. I like somebody to look more
like the volleyball I mean, if we're talking about preference,
but look, uh, let's just I'm going to turn this
into something that we've probably discussed before. But you know,
(38:54):
if you live in an athletic department, there's all kinds
of people around, and many of them elite athletes or
former elite athletes that are coaching elite athletes now and
quite attractive. Just put it like that. And at USC
we had an elite and still do a swimming program,
(39:16):
and everybody would just and and everybody would marvel at
the fact that you know, you're on your way to
go get taped and run at you know, five point
thirty in the morning and they're already in the pool.
You know, you're coming home from school at four in
the afternoon, they're back in the pool while you walk by.
I mean, these people are always in the pool. There's
girls there too. It's not like, you know, there's also
(39:38):
girls on the swim team. It's not like you have
a girl playing Sam Baker, you know when you're playing
at se so you're you're on the team with women
and no one wears anything. They don't wear anything. So
they're staring at each other naked all day working out,
and all they do when they swim is stare at
the bottom of a pool. You know, there's a reason
nobody popped out of a pool and like solve the
(40:01):
world problem. You know, you don't have a lot of
time to study while you're staring at the bottom of
a pool. But once a month, the swimmers would throw
a swimmer party, which would become just a volcano of
decadence like Caligula, because all they did was work out
(40:24):
and stare at each other naked, and everybody in the
athletic department or anybody that lived close or maybe somebody
that knew somebody would try to get into that swimmer
party because they were truly, truly an absolute well let's
just say, like an orgy, and you'd have people running around,
(40:48):
you know, wearing their gold medal that they just won
in Sydney, swinging off their naked body on some kind
of MDMA drug. Anyway. I have had this experience talking
to other people about this from universities, and they also
seeked out the swimmer parties because they were you know,
(41:10):
because the nature of the swimmers I mean delivers why
you know why, you know, they really did. And you know,
if you're a football player, you might be able to
run up on like a more insecure girl who's got
huge shoulders, you know, and be like, hey, it's okay
that you got big ass arms and shoulders. Mine are bigger,
And I'm okay with this. You know, I love looks
(41:33):
like a kite.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I love going behind the scenes with the way Petros's
mind works. Well, I'm just saying that that Bobby Petrino
fell victim to that. You know, it's a long and
lean specimen.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
And you know, like he was, you know, running around
out in the uh the bush, he got excited and
crashed his bike.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, what happens in the bush when you're running around
like that?
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Uh, you fall to animal instincts.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Do you go down on all fours or do you
just continue?
Speaker 6 (42:08):
I don't know what he did. You're gonna have to
ask Bobby. But he got all scratched up erectus or
was he one of the great photos in the history
of football? Is have all scratched up freaking neck brace.
So he was certainly a homo erectus with the neck brace.
(42:30):
If he was an animal, they would have put one
of those dog of saucer things.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Could lick himself.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Led to him getting that that neck brace on.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Yeah, Petrino Patrino was like the it's like the uh,
he's sort of like the the equivalent of like an
action hero for hire. Right, he took a job at
UNLV for like two weeks last year, and A and
M called and he was like I gotta go, you know,
I mean, this guy's pretty unreal. And now he's back
at Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Good for him.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Yeah, I hope he called some great plays.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, Petros, you've called great plays on this show throughout
the course of this interview, and we appreciate it. You
can get them on Twitter at the old.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
P That's what's the big worst part about COVID for college.
By the way, the end of the swimmer parties. I
hope they're back.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, that was a great story. You know, this is
a great story. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
It's okay that you got shoulders and arms like the
field end on this football team. I'm personally a fan
of swimmers. Personally, they're like human hang gliders too. So
what are you studying the bottom of the pool? What
about you?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I mean that takes talent that you got to be
gifted to be able to study the bottom of a pool.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Yeah, well these were you know, I mean, and we
had to e lead Olympic athletes. I'm just you know,
None of them went on to all world problems
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Like us, Yeah, what we do here exactly right,
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