December 10, 2025 • 49 mins
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys chat with Petros Papadakis on insights regarding the College Football Playoff rankings and discourse. Plus, the guys react to the Notre Dame presser for Athletic Director Pete Bevacqua as he talked relationships with the ACC, the return of one Phillip Rivers to Indy, and more!!
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Here live on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates
all across the country. If you're listening on the podcast,
you know why you're here at this moment, because it
is time to welcome on the old pe Who Petros Papadakis,
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on one of those affiliates, The Blowtorch
(01:35):
AM five seventy La Creal Fox College football analyst and
our good buddy Petros.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Good morning, Good morning everybody. Hello. Do you know the
song Petros? It's about that's on Niki? Petros? Did you
pick the song?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
How did you know? Because the first line he said,
that's Niki move.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, I kind of want to go back to uh
jella and that song.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ah, how did you know? Well you said it? Where
does that?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Where does this song rank amongst popular Greek songs of
all time?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm not really sure. It's probably pretty big and Thatsalikya, but.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What does that mean? It's a that'salo.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Niki is like the San Francisco to if Athens is
la That'salik's like San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's a northern Greek town. Can you take us one day?
Can we go on a trip.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I've never been to the Sikile, that's even more reason
for us all go.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know people that used to live there. Though. It's
a nice place. I heard it's really cool. Where do
you go when you go to Greece?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I was married in a town on the backside of
the island of Rhodes, which is not a place where
my family is from. But ever since we got married
there in the Greek church and my wife converted in
all that, people in the village sort of remember us.
So I like to go back there. But this time
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of year it's desolate. I mean, there's nobody there. Greek
islands are very seasonal, so the people that live there
during this time of year live a very austere, spartan lifestyle.
There's not much open, there's no club life, it's cold,
it rains, so it's really a summertime thing out there.
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But the town I got married and if anybody wants
to look it up, is a place called Landos l
n dos Rhads, which is very old old actually, the
village predates the name of the island of Rhodes and
was mentioned in the Iliad by Homer, So they're very
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proud and there's about three hundred of them. And there's
a lot of British people there because Roads used to
be a British island during the Crusades, so there's British
castles and stuff like that. And there's a lot of
automate influence because Rhodes is really close to Turkey the Turkeys, Yeah,
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used to be Turkey, so and that that's also very
volatile between the Greeks and the Turk. So very interesting
place of antiquity.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But my family, very interesting history.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Lesson my family is from the Peloponti switch is below Athens.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Did you get good grades, man, No, like you're super smart,
And I was about to say you probably got horrible grades.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You're probably just an average student. I was not a
good student. I did better in college, okay.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And the reason why I say that, let me let
me qualify it because and I'm calling you a brilliant
dude on having information. No, you are a pretty brilliant dude.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I listened to the things you say. But generally people
is intelligent as you are aren't stimulated enough because you're
generally probably more intelligent than the person who was probably
tasked with educating you. So you end up being a
person that it doesn't do very well in school.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I was not a good student. Okay, you weren't interested,
that's all I guess not I was seen as an idiot.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah, class clown, but your class clownness, your class clownness
was offensive and bothersome to those who ran the classrooms
because it was over their head or.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Its equal trying to learn?
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I good at the normal better
the normals.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, you're you're not a normal dude. Bro, You're
a pretty different dude.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
And speaking of different dudes, why don't you ever come
to the NFF dinner?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Man? What's the NFF? National Football Foundation? You're? Oh, what's
good about football? Man? Like, you know, I do this campaign.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I'm gonna get Q one day as well, but I
do interviews for podcasts do called good in the game,
and it's for the National Football Foundation. It's like all
about talking about things that had led to you being
like who you are and how much the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Played a part in it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Uh, I feel like this event would be I know
you don't like being around people, but it still seems
like it would be an event where.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Where you have to get on a plane.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeahs, don't have to You don't have to fly. You
can draft Vegas. Isn't a bad draft from where you're at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, I've done it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I went to the Mountain West Media Day and I
was just in Vegas calling a football game at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, did you fly or did you draft?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I flew because I had to fly to San Diego
afterwards and call another game in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You did JSX? What is that jet? Sweet X? It's
like a privat jet, but it's like a public private jet.
I didn't do that. That definitely afraid of flying. I
don't like it. No, huh, Like what does that happen?
It all the time?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, don't you guys want to talk about college football?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
I'm enjoying breaking you down. Yeah, I mean, you know,
we bring a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
You know, when I was a child, I was gripped
with fear and then I kind of just sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Bulowed over with with uh just will.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But now that I'm getting older, I'm becoming very afraid again.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How do you play football when you're gripped with fear?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Like that's a total antithesis, answered, give it to us fearfully.
You know, we started the show with Mark, with Big
John Henderson, and you remember the clip of him getting
smacked by by his trainer and he's like, come on,
(07:50):
come on, slap me harder, and like he said, because
he was super like, No, I don't think he said scared,
but he said crazy, nervous and wanted to get his
it out before he even went out on the field.
So you would have his trainer slapped the hell out
of him in the training room before he went out
to the field for warm ups.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, anxiety.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Did you have somebody slapping the hell out of you
to get the anxiety out of you?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I did not. Gripping fear. I didn't. Maybe I should have, well,
talk to us, talk to us.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
So what you've witnessed from college football, there's been a
lot of that conversation going on. I'm kind of curious
the playoff, the group of six teams getting in and
didn't get left out.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It's really it's really becoming quite a saga, isn't it.
And the whole story about when they expanded the playoff,
and some of the detractors said, but people aren't going
to care about who doesn't get in if so many
teams get in. I think that story or narrative has
kind of been crushed, especially this year. And I think
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the College Football Playoff really did benefit last year from
having Notre Dame play in four of the games, and
that became a huge story. And Notre Dame is the
number one brand in all of college sports. So they
are upset and but heard about this because they feel used.
They feel used, I believe by Disney and the ESPN entity.
(09:21):
Here's what bothers me about it. ESPN has a big
stake in the ACC, right if they don't basically own it. Yeah,
they own the SEC, they own the College Football Playoff.
They own a bunch of shows that sit there and
argue about all of it and wag the dog and
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get everybody all riled up, including the selection show, which
Notre Dame feels misled by. And then we all go
through these machinations or these stages of the cross or
whatever you call it to satisfy ESPN basically in a
(10:08):
giant circle jerky. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's all the same people doing the same thing and
creating the story. Notre Dame obviously, I mean two things
can be true at the same time. Is Notre Dame
being a little bit petulant? Perhaps, But do they have
a point? Absolutely, they have a point, and they feel
on the outside of this. Notre Dame is the only team.
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I'm pretty sure, as was evidenced by the Longhorn Network,
Notre Dame is the only team that can have their
own TV deal and they've proven it out since what
is it, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Nineteen?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
How long have they been on an NBC forever? And
as long as somebody's willing to pay them and they
have their own TV deal, they don't have to join
anybody's conference or playing anybody's reindeer games. Maybe they have
to adjust their scheduling. I don't know, but I see
their point. Maybe Bovaqua has done one or two too
(11:17):
many press conferences, but I understand that they're upset about it,
and I just what bothers me is.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't like pretending.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
That ESPN doesn't own it all and is pulling all
the strings, and that's part of the problem. And Fox,
where we work, as part of the problem too, because
they own the Big ten and represent the Big ten
and both entities run college football, and we're basically making
it up as we go along, and that's going to
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lead to a lot of incongruity. That's always been our sport.
There's always been a lot of confusion and a lot
of argument. It's kind of made the sport what it is,
and the regional nature of the sport and people having
temper tantrums and getting upset and calling others out and
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press conferences and things like that is part of it. So,
I mean, I understand it pretty well. But the part
that bothers me is that ESPN owns all of it
and we're all just going through the motions for him,
and I'm tired of that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So I've kind of taken this stance on on social
media for whatever the whatever that matters. But Notre Dame
decides to opt out of the ball game, and I
understand the motivations as to why, based on how ESPN
handled the college football playoffs, some of the things that
were told in the weeks leading up that they were
going to be good, they were going to make it
in and obviously that rug gap pulled out from underneath
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of them in the final ranking, and then you know,
ESPN turns around and says.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hey, but come play this bull game. You know you
want to play for a national.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Chance we own and we're gonna, Yeah, we're going to
man pop Tart. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make you
do snow Angels in the rosting.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And we're going to make sure that we bring in
a team that also didn't get in as frustrated in BYU,
and we're going to promote the fact that neither of
your institutions wants anyone to have sex before marriage and
go from there. But there's a lot of pushback from people,
and it feels like it's mostly from ESPN folks because
obviously this hurts their bottom line, but even like other
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people out there, which they're chiming in, and I'm kind
of like, here's my opinion on all this. We played
in a Bowl game when after ty Wllingham got fired,
and we voted as a team to do it because
of a lot of our upper classmen said, unless you're
playing for a national championship, which at that day and
age right, it was all the BCS or at BCS
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New York six game, you don't go. And we had
to convince our upper class and to go and it
was like a sixty to forty VOA. And you know
what happened in that bowl game. No one took a
we got beat up. No one took us seriously, Like
the coaches were looking for jobs players. Everyone was going
out the entire time. We're in Scott's though. No one
took it seriously, and everyone says, like, we'll look back
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on it, you know, would you have done something differently? Yeah,
probably not go Probably not go to a bowl game
that it was a great experience. I had a fun
time with my teammates, but it was basically a party.
Could have done that on campus, could have gone on
vacation together, something else. And so today, like twenty some
years later, like I look at a Petros and guys
are opting out because they either going to the draft
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or maybe they're just going to go in the transfer portal,
or maybe there's even some players who have some injuries
that need to get stuff taken care of. Coaches are
looking at the transfer port that comes up here in
January trying to either retain.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guys or fill in spots in their roster.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's like it almost makes the case like why would
you play an exhibition game if you're not playing for
national championship. Like, I understand that everyood loves football is
for the love of the game and all that, but
really it's like, what's the upside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Anymore with some of these games? Some of them?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Right, every team has their own story and every individual
coach and group of players has its own motivation. So
I think you're absolutely right. For some people, it doesn't
make sense. For others, they're hypermotivated to have the extra
practice and try to keep the team together and retain players,
or have one more game together and do all that
(15:15):
stuff that we say. I think it goes both ways,
and I absolutely agree with all of your points.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't think Notre Dame wanted.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
To play in ESPN's charade this year after they felt
used by ESPN during the year, and I think that's
absolutely fine that they didn't want.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
And it's totally understandable for some people or some teams
and some individuals the Bowl game is meaningful. For others,
just depending on circumstance.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It isn't.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And I think that's fine. If I'm Notre Dame, I
wouldn't want to go have mayonnaise port all over my head,
or run around with the giant pop tart and sit
there and play while the announcers eat and chew in
the microphone. I totally get it. It totally makes sense
to me. The Bowl season has become something different. I
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don't know if it's going to go away, or how
many will go away, or what will happen, but I
think you're absolutely right. It's just the part that bothers
me is that everybody just acts like the whole thing's
not orchestrated by ESPN and their pundits go on and
make all these points and get all excited and point counterpoint,
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and of course we don't have any like It's the
most ridiculous thing in the world. It's worse than politics.
And that's part of the problem here. I think, if
you're going to have a committee, which it's not necessary,
but if you're going to have a committee, just have
football people. Are media people like Ivan masl Is on there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
The guys worked everywhere and Sports Illustrated and all that.
Chris All, Mike Riley, Wesley Walls like those are hardcore
football people. But with all due respect to administrators, ads
are politicians, and politicians do what they flip on public opinion.
They have yeah, politics, politics, publicy, no backbone whatsoever. And
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that's why you'll have Notre Dame ahead of Miami all
year and then suddenly the year ends and it flips
because of political pressure.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's what you have.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
On this board or committee or whatever with a bunch
of ads. If you need to have an administrator, have
one ad be in charge of the whole thing and administrate.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But to have a bunch of.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Ads in this group makes the group political and politics suck.
If you're going to have a Maybee, you have hardcore
football people, and you'll probably have a less offensive vote
at the end of the year or less surprising vote
at the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Pat tros H, let me follow up on what Q
was saying. Not to step on one, you Jones, but
they want to get too far away from what Q
said the first time in track Yeah yeah, ten dollars yeah,
uh so, so let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
This, Does this actually create a critical mass situation in
your estimation, like the fact that the premise behind why
Notre Dame doesn't want to do it, you know, doesn't
want to play this game and do the ring around
the Rosie dance with ESPN. Does this set a precedence
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that could be dangerous to ESPN moving forward?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, I don't think they're going to sell off their stuff.
I think what's likely to happen is they'll be a
bigger playoff. ESPN will sell off some of that to Fox,
just like they've sold some of it off.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
To TNT, and the charade will continue.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think the conference championship games are obviously in jeopardy
unless they become playoff elimination.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Games, which would make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And then you have the big mass of bowl games.
Some of those are probably going to end up going
away as well. We need a commissioner or some kind
of czar of college football, but who's going to agree
on that. I mean, the two people that are in
charge are the people that run ESPEN and Fox, behind
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the proxies of the big ten in the SEC. So
I think that we reach critical mass a few years ago,
probably LeVar, But there's nobody with enough power to get
everybody under the same roof and to fix the thing.
So if what you like about college football is the chaos,
which is basically what it's always been, then this is
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a great.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Time to alive.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has what college football's turned into because you're somebody who
grew up family history in college football, you love the
traditions all that come along with it. Has sort of,
and we talked about a little in the offseason, has
this mixed with, you know, the business side and the
discussions and the has it kind of I don't want
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that tainted. For lack of a better term, I don't know.
I mean, it's all on the whole sport, not.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Really, because if you look back on it, there really
is no good reason that we have and I'm sure
I've made this point before, but there's no good reason
to have these gigantic, multi billion dollar football entities within
our institutions of higher education. In so many ways, the
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football team has become the identity of a lot of
these schools, and those two things they really don't jib
It's just something that happened in the early part of
the twentieth century. And I don't think it happened on purpose.
It happened because the sport was popular and there was
a demand for it, just like it would happen with
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any sport that got popular. The pile of money that
started being made by the athletic departments because of the
TV deals and all the endowment and the boosters and
all that stuff. It got so big that it kind
of towered behind the people that were in front of it,
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and that money has to be distributed to people that
are playing.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
At this point, it just has to be.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We could say when Mike was going to games with
my grandfather and my dad at the coliseum and watching
players play and listening to the fight song, that it
was a purer time.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But what's so pure about it?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
You have a bunch of guys making a bunch of
money for the university that end up getting spit out
by the program when their career is over. We've all
seen what football can do for people in a positive way,
we've all seen what it can do for people in
a negative way, and we've all seen the ugly side
of the sport, however you want to define that. And
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all of that stuff was going on when we thought
the game was more quote unquote pure. So I think
we've always been in the sewer and now it's just
a lot harder to maintain a team and grow a
team and to cultivate a culture, but that doesn't mean
we still don't have culture, and we still don't have games,
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and we still don't have identities of coaches and programs.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So I look back.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I try to avoid talking about the good old days
because I don't think they exist. I think this has
been an evolving kind of It's been an evolving anomaly
for over one hundred years, ever since Redgrange made the
sport popular at Illinois. And we live in it now
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and there's nobody. The NCAA is two week to take over.
The TV companies aren't going to get along and promote us.
I mean, we've had some uniformity. The SEC agreed to
play the extra conference game and all that, and they
closed one of the transfer portals. So you could say
that's progress, but it's a little bit like throwing a
deck chair off the Titanic with all the stuff that's
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going on.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's a great visual.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
By the way, you also talked about the expansion and
Fox can get peace. I'm not so sure a little
bit because of how divisive things are between ESPN and Fox.
And they'll be do a TNT branding. I believe on
this year's playoff in some games. I mean, TNT is
really not involved much at all in college football.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But I digress. I want to generally ask you this.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You're done with call on games, like, yes, well obviously
you got the radio show going on, But is this
kind of a like what do you venture into this
time of year?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Some other stuff you guys are doing. I assume family
traveling all that. I wish I could find a way
to make some more money, but well, the Pro Football
Foundation or the National NFF give me some money.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
To tell my story.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, I need money, but this time of year I
just kind of delve back into family life and try
to make sure trying to make sure that everybody gets
their holiday wishes, and trying to support my wife. It's
not an easy time because you kind of strive and
strive for the year to end, as you guys know,
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in the football season, and then the year ends and
you remember all of the problems that you had before
it began, and you kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Have to go back to working on those. So that's
kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Usually I go through a real state of elation when
the season is over, and then a feeling of loss
and desolation, which is what.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Is there any sort of optimism or positivity. Can you
can talk to us about this time of day? No,
I mean the Dodgers signed Edwin.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, the trumpet guy, he plays a trumpet out of his.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Ass and then he comes. They do that, the Dodgers, Yeah,
they're gonna do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
They used to have the Eric Gangne Welcome to the Jungle,
and he used to come out and blow people down.
And then they had California Love with Kenley Jansen not
as popular, and now they'll do the trumpet butt call.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, Petro's gonna be great always. Uh, He's appreciated.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
It's another guy that blew out his knee celebrating like
Martine great Gramatica.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah in the the World Baseball Classic.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I believe when he did it. Yeah, WBC. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Petros Papa Vegas, the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five seventy l a Sports Fox college football analyst. He
can get him on X at the old p Petros.
We appreciate it and then oh there you go the
great Petros Papadas with us here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Petro a best is I need more money?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
For that National NF money it was.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was also nice for levard a lot us ask
a couple of questions too in that interview.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
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Speaker 1 (30:45):
So some of the best in college football to ever
do it, and you know, there's there's also some other
stories going on in college football, which really, like what well,
in my opinion, way more interesting than any of the
round matchups is Notre Dame versus. Everybody has been really,
(31:05):
really entertaining. Pete Bavaqua, the Notre Dame athletic director, spoke
yesterday about sort of how things kind of took a
turn when it came to dealing with the ACC and
Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC, let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (31:23):
I think it was like a three to three and
a half week campaign. Saw the first social media post,
and my gut reaction was somebody in their socialmediate department
got over their skis and did something that the ACC
was going to correct. And quite frankly, I was kind
of expecting a phone call saying, hey, sorry about that.
It won't happen again. But then it did happen again,
(31:44):
and we started to communicate with the ACC texts that
I sent, emails that I sent, and it continued to
happen and I had a conversation, I had a phone
call with Jimmy we could go today saying hey, listen,
you know that's a conversation I want to keep between
me and Jimmy, but certainly got the point across that
(32:06):
this was raised eyebrows and you got to know it's
caused damage here between the university and the ACC. It
just kind of puzzled us that a conference that's home
to over six hundred of our student athletes walking around
this campus today, I guess chose to go down that road.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Why would you attack.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
An unbelievably important business partner of yours in football and
a member of your conference in twenty four other sports.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So that's a Notre Dame athletic Derek Man. Have you
talked to him? I haven't talked to Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I haven't talked to our athletic director, but I would
generally just say this.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, college football is what ultimately drives the revenue,
drives ratings, and that's Notre Dame's identity.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So I personally look at it and say, I get
it from both sides of it, Like I understand that
there's a lot of other sports student athletes who are
maybe looking at it going, well, we're in the ACC,
like why why are they campaigning like that?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But I also look at it and said, you're not
for football.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And if Jim Phillips, who's the conference commissioner, is okay
with them pushing for a team like Miami pushing for
their conference champion, Duke, Like, I get it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Like I don't look at social media, and maybe that's
just the difference in age and experience and all that
as social media, like I don't look at it to
be this sort of professional platform.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's just not so. When we really.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Want to boil us down and say, well, there was
a campaign to me person, I'm like, all right, like
water under the bridge, you know. I think one of
the things that that I looked at it was like, okay,
this is more of what I would say was kind
of an issue. Is when you do something out of
the norm, like the ACC network continually playing the Notre
Dame Miami game for like two three days straight, whatever
(33:59):
it was. When you see stuff like that, you're like, okay,
that's a little different. Like that's someone who's actually taking
cable channel like airtime and they're playing it over and
over and over again, which is out of the norm.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
They've never done that before. I think were the intentions
were to make sure they reminded people that mind me
beat Notre Dame, and by political ads that you see
exactly like that was where you kind of felt like, okay.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
But you're making it us versus them thing, and that's
kind of what the idea is really trying to drive
home here, right.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, And I think the one thing that gets a
little bit like the where the water gets a little muddied,
is like, you have a partial affiliation. So even though
it's twenty four of the sports, you're also playing five
games a year that are against the ACC, and the
ACC schedules that like Notre Dame Messina any control over
which five of those are. There's a lot of people
don't understand how the scheduling comes about for Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's part of that. A lot of people, by the.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Way, are like, oh, the ACC saved Notre Dame during COVID,
and there's some truth to that as far as what
the that schedule is going to look like for them
because of how various conferences handled COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I will remind people too though the one year they.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Are part of the conference, they swept the regular season
and they played the conference championship game lost to Clemson.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But still if people wanted to join a conference, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think Notre Dame is going to compare favorably versus
most they would have in the playoff this year, versus
SEC opponents.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I think the greater thing that I would draw.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Or point to that ultimately led to the frustration for
Notre Dame fans not getting the playoff at least in
regards to the ACC was the way they went about
determining who played the conference championship game.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That should be the same for every powerful conference.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
The fact that we don't have, I mean, and this
is really the greater issue in college football, the fact
that not everyone plays nine conference games, which they will
starting next year.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You get the SEC doing that, obviously, the Big Ten
does that, the Big Twelve, et cetera. You're getting a
little bit closer to that.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
But then it's like, okay, well can we all agree
not to schedule FCS opponents. Like if you look at
a lot of these old MISS resumes this year, or
excuse me, the SEC resumes this year Old MISS in particular,
they've had an SEC opponent on it. If you really
break down, they played three teams with winning records the
three or four teams something like that. It's like, all right, well,
how hard was that schedule that no one's talking about
that just because they have one loss, It wasn't that
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difficult of a schedule. So there's a lot of inequities,
unequal you know, schedules that were trying to compare it
to determine who should be playing off for this thing.
Well that even extends to the conference championship game. How
do we get those two teams there? If they had
adopted the AAC tie breaking scenarios, which is head to
head then the highest college football playoff ranking, you know
(36:43):
which two teams are, you would have got Miami versus UVA.
Miami would have won. Miami's in, Jmu's out, not her
names in. And that's probably how it should have worked.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Like, as much as.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
We want to make this a whole Notre Dame Miami
thing and everything else, Miami should have won the ACC.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
They're the best team in the conference.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Instead you have Duke playing offers Uva as a five
loss conference champ because of their odd tie breaking. It
was what record versus common opponents or winning percentagers common opponents,
some odd way in which they went to a third tiebreaker.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
But that's not an automatic qualifier, right, Well, no, no,
it would be.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It would be an qualify. It would be automatic qualifier.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It doesn't mean you get a buy So two years
ago it meant you would have you the top four
highest conference champion reicks, we'll get buys.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Now they just said it's automat qualifiers. So duke, it's in.
They're not in the playoffs. No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So because they but no, no, because they weren't one
of the five highest ranked conference champions.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
They're a five lost team. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
But I think what I think some people have been
getting turned around and mixed up on what automatic qualifying represents. Like,
doesn't mean that if you win your conference in a
power in one of the power in any of the
power for conferences, that you're an automatic quality. That's not it.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Well again, it's it's that's not it because of the
way these different conferences construct their tie breaking scenarios. Yeah,
it should all be the same, Like aren't we all
angling towards the same thing, Like we're trying to get
all the best teams playing for it. So if you
have different conference tie breaking scenarios, you're gonna come up
with a different result. The ACC came up with this
result where Duke's playing UVA, and if Duke wins, the
(38:30):
disaster scenario for the ACEC they have to sit there
and look at their conference champ with five losses. That's
not gonna get in the playoff. I had no shot
getting the playoff, even though they I think they ESPN
had someone there. You're standing on campus to the microphone like, yeah,
Jonas up here. We think that Duke Blue Devils ma
have a shot and get again at that's like, no,
they have no shot.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
But you get an ACC team into the College Football
Playoff though.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
You do, but they're not recognized as their conference champ, right,
That's what they're saying. They have to be lucky enough
that the committee finally moved them ahead of Notre Dame
because they head.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
To head like Ohio State wasn't in the Big Ten
championship game last year, and they and think about it,
and I said that I made this point. Ye before
you have a national title holder that didn't even win
their conference.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
There's a there's a conference. Yeah, there's a conference. All
four teams last year in semi files. None of them,
none of them, none of them won the conference. Weird, So
so why I don't find by that?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
But whytchul to me, why should the conference championship matter?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Okay, that brings up another question? Why should it?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Like like if i'm if i'm you know, I mean,
I'm not trying to talk for Peter, I'm not trying
to talk to anything else.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I would I would step back from.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
All of this and say, we're not going to point
out like how we feel like we were in you
know it was injust with what happened. Let's talk about
this whole process and let's better understand how we get
to the best twelve of teams playing for it because
we don't all have the same criteria, we don't all
have the same stuff. But everyone who wants to hold
(40:07):
that over Notre Dames head. But join a conference, you
join a conference. You don't need to join a conference
in order to win the national championship, because why the
teams in the conferences don't win their conference and go
play for a national championship?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
They played for one last year? Yeah past your point,
Ohio State won it last.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Year and they didn't play in their conference champions So
like then it kind of devalues it all together. So
now it makes it like, well, why don't we figure
out a way of structuring this where those games are
like playing games, you know during that weekend?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Why are we doing conference championship weekend?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Why can't we do like some sort of hey the
top you know, however many teams, the rankings are all
squaring off.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
You know what I'm saying, Like you could start that round.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
There as opposed to saying we got to play conference championships,
then we gotta go to the first round. Then we're
gonna go to the quarterfinal, like you could. You could
expand this thing to sixteen, and we could start this
thing a little sooner, which I think a lot of
people would be all four.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
There's too many sensitivities on trying to get X amount
of teams in.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
That's what I think. Yeah, well I think that's part
of it.
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Granddaddy is back at forty four years old. He is
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ending ir that's a wrap on his season. And here
(42:46):
we go with Philip Rivers potentially taken over as quarterback
one in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
So interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Note he's on the practice squad now, which means he's
still eligible to be voted in. He's a semi files
for the Hall of Fame. He's still eligible as of
now to be voted now. If he gets moved to
the active roster, clock resets, so you have to wait
another five years.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So interesting kind of note to that.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
So obviously he has a desire to want to do
this to help out to go play. He's been coaching
with high school football, probably.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Slinging it around. You know, it feels good, they said.
He looked good in the workout.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I think I wonder too if he's seeing not only
how much money some guys are making now, but just
the protection quarterbacks are getting, and he's thinking I can
go in and do this, like I can still go
in and do this.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I'm out of loss for words on this one. Is
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Forty four, Like I'm literally three to four years older
than him, and.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I know how I feel. I feel old.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
He's got to feel old. He's played. He played a
lot longer than I did. I just I don't understand it. Like, listen,
a lot of people had a problem when George Foreman
came back.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You're old, You're over the hill. That'll never work out
for you. When you get punched, you'll realize you're too
old for this and you'll go back into retirement.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
That I mean, there is the opportunity for this to
be a pretty interesting tale of never giving up. And
if you have a dream of being able to overcome
something like I want to be a forty four year
old that does this after coming back out of retirement
from X amount of years inactive. I guess that makes sense,
(44:37):
but I just don't want to see the alternative. That's
all like if it all, it's all fun and good.
You know, George Foreman was able to get through the
fights and get to a championship fight and win the
title again at an old ass a. He used to
take so many punches thof I mean, bro, he took
a lot of punches.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I remember him at the end of his career when
you're talking about this, Jonas, you did too, but I
just remember thinking, he took so many.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Times out of the man.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Yeah, they couldn't, but he he caught Mike Mercer or whatever.
Michael Mercer, I believe that. Michael Moore, Michael Moore and
he's from WESBA. It's just for me, I don't want
to see somebody get a hold of Philip Rivers and
he just poof and like just you know, literally just
evaporate away after he gets hit, Like I just don't
(45:27):
want to see that.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
You would know this obviously better than I would, But
just from watching him, he always seemed like a pretty
quick release, like he was getting.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That really quick release.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
He knows how to diagnose everything. And look that they've
got Jonathan Taylor to Lena. So you know, for me,
like I think it's a decent setup. They have a
really good offensive line playing indoors right, and he was
already there, so he knows the system to a degree.
He knows the team, maybe even some of the personnel.
So there are some advantages to why he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I just, you know, I don't know by the way
he's all ready because I'll say it right now. If
he's average, they don't even have to make the playoffs.
If he's average, he's comeback player of the year. I
don't want to hear anybody throw any other name out there.
And as I go and check who the comeback player
of the year odds are right now, Christian McCaffrey on
(46:17):
DraftKings is your favorite.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
At minus one forty. Yeah, he's carry them.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Second is Dak Prescott a plus one twenty five, also
carry this team, And third Philip Rivers at eighteen to one.
If he's just average, that guy should win Comeback Player
of the Year in the NFL this year based on
what he's doing five years off.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
He will base his comeback off of or base it
on him reproducing again.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Like what's hold on? I was going to ask you,
I can go to the well.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
You always bring this up though you think he was
at home for the five years just miserable and his
waiting for the next.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Say he was miserable, But I'm gonna say, if you're
willing to come back and play after you've been out
as long as he has, as old as he is,
he's looking at the alternative like, Man, I'm coaching, I'm home,
I'm here. It's like I'm herem mob, Hey, that me, Moby,
where are you at?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Like what? Like bruh?
Speaker 6 (47:13):
His house is like a shopping mall, like like seriously,
Like I just I know I get over stimulated and
I'm not anywhere near the amount of kids him or
Sean Alexander have. I'm nowhere near that, And I know
I get overwhelmed, and I'd be like, all right, are
we doing the super Bowl? Like I don't want to
(47:33):
go to the super Bowl, But the only reason why
I want to go to two reasons. See, you guys,
all of us get together and be able to be
in the same place, but I want to get the
hell away from like all of that. From time to time,
I got to get like I'll be sitting up in
there and you actually stop and listen and look at
everything that's going on around you, and you're like, how
(47:56):
the hell did I choose this for myself? Like why
is this where? I? Like, then you start going into
this weird little deal like I used to be somebody
in my life like I used to things used to matter,
and it used to be quiet like and then you
start to look around and then the noise gets louder again,
and then you come back to yourself and it's like, Dad, Dad,
(48:18):
I've been talking to you for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Are you okay? Like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
So if I'm Philip Rivers, I can only imagine that
is multiplied so many times over.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
And he's like, I would love to go into a
locker room.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
I would love to go into a meeting room and
have peace and quiet, look at some film, throw the
ball around, and get away from that. Because when you
got all that, it's a whole lot of shorties. And
I tell you what, when you shorty jump in your ear,
just go grab some hot sauce.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
That don't make everything better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
If your mouth is full of food, you can't say
the wrong thing and get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I found that.
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Out myself, So listen if you're going to going to
do that, throw some Louisiana Hot Sauce on. It's only
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the turn every day into a tailgate because it's just
got that type of flavor to it, if you know
what I mean. So listen, make sure you get you
some original Louisiana Hot sauce, add a little bit to
(49:16):
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jella and that song.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ah, how did you know? Well you said it? Where
does that?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Where does this song rank amongst popular Greek songs of
all time?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm not really sure. It's probably pretty big and Thatsalikya, but.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What does that mean? It's a that'salo.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Niki is like the San Francisco to if Athens is
la That'salik's like San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's a northern Greek town. Can you take us one day?
Can we go on a trip.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I've never been to the Sikile, that's even more reason
for us all go.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know people that used to live there. Though. It's
a nice place. I heard it's really cool. Where do
you go when you go to Greece?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I was married in a town on the backside of
the island of Rhodes, which is not a place where
my family is from. But ever since we got married
there in the Greek church and my wife converted in
all that, people in the village sort of remember us.
So I like to go back there. But this time
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of year it's desolate. I mean, there's nobody there. Greek
islands are very seasonal, so the people that live there
during this time of year live a very austere, spartan lifestyle.
There's not much open, there's no club life, it's cold,
it rains, so it's really a summertime thing out there.
(03:30):
But the town I got married and if anybody wants
to look it up, is a place called Landos l
n dos Rhads, which is very old old actually, the
village predates the name of the island of Rhodes and
was mentioned in the Iliad by Homer, So they're very
(03:51):
proud and there's about three hundred of them. And there's
a lot of British people there because Roads used to
be a British island during the Crusades, so there's British
castles and stuff like that. And there's a lot of
automate influence because Rhodes is really close to Turkey the Turkeys, Yeah,
(04:14):
used to be Turkey, so and that that's also very
volatile between the Greeks and the Turk. So very interesting
place of antiquity.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But my family, very interesting history.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Lesson my family is from the Peloponti switch is below Athens.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Did you get good grades, man, No, like you're super smart,
And I was about to say you probably got horrible grades.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You're probably just an average student. I was not a
good student. I did better in college, okay.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And the reason why I say that, let me let
me qualify it because and I'm calling you a brilliant
dude on having information. No, you are a pretty brilliant dude.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I listened to the things you say. But generally people
is intelligent as you are aren't stimulated enough because you're
generally probably more intelligent than the person who was probably
tasked with educating you. So you end up being a
person that it doesn't do very well in school.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I was not a good student. Okay, you weren't interested,
that's all I guess not I was seen as an idiot.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah, class clown, but your class clownness, your class clownness
was offensive and bothersome to those who ran the classrooms
because it was over their head or.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Its equal trying to learn?
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I good at the normal better
the normals.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, you're you're not a normal dude. Bro, You're
a pretty different dude.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
And speaking of different dudes, why don't you ever come
to the NFF dinner?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Man? What's the NFF? National Football Foundation? You're? Oh, what's
good about football? Man? Like, you know, I do this campaign.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I'm gonna get Q one day as well, but I
do interviews for podcasts do called good in the game,
and it's for the National Football Foundation. It's like all
about talking about things that had led to you being
like who you are and how much the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Played a part in it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Uh, I feel like this event would be I know
you don't like being around people, but it still seems
like it would be an event where.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Where you have to get on a plane.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeahs, don't have to You don't have to fly. You
can draft Vegas. Isn't a bad draft from where you're at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, I've done it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I went to the Mountain West Media Day and I
was just in Vegas calling a football game at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, did you fly or did you draft?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I flew because I had to fly to San Diego
afterwards and call another game in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You did JSX? What is that jet? Sweet X? It's
like a privat jet, but it's like a public private jet.
I didn't do that. That definitely afraid of flying. I
don't like it. No, huh, Like what does that happen?
It all the time?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, don't you guys want to talk about college football?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
I'm enjoying breaking you down. Yeah, I mean, you know,
we bring a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
You know, when I was a child, I was gripped
with fear and then I kind of just sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Bulowed over with with uh just will.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But now that I'm getting older, I'm becoming very afraid again.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How do you play football when you're gripped with fear?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Like that's a total antithesis, answered, give it to us fearfully.
You know, we started the show with Mark, with Big
John Henderson, and you remember the clip of him getting
smacked by by his trainer and he's like, come on,
(07:50):
come on, slap me harder, and like he said, because
he was super like, No, I don't think he said scared,
but he said crazy, nervous and wanted to get his
it out before he even went out on the field.
So you would have his trainer slapped the hell out
of him in the training room before he went out
to the field for warm ups.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, anxiety.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Did you have somebody slapping the hell out of you
to get the anxiety out of you?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I did not. Gripping fear. I didn't. Maybe I should have, well,
talk to us, talk to us.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
So what you've witnessed from college football, there's been a
lot of that conversation going on. I'm kind of curious
the playoff, the group of six teams getting in and
didn't get left out.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It's really it's really becoming quite a saga, isn't it.
And the whole story about when they expanded the playoff,
and some of the detractors said, but people aren't going
to care about who doesn't get in if so many
teams get in. I think that story or narrative has
kind of been crushed, especially this year. And I think
(08:56):
the College Football Playoff really did benefit last year from
having Notre Dame play in four of the games, and
that became a huge story. And Notre Dame is the
number one brand in all of college sports. So they
are upset and but heard about this because they feel used.
They feel used, I believe by Disney and the ESPN entity.
(09:21):
Here's what bothers me about it. ESPN has a big
stake in the ACC, right if they don't basically own it. Yeah,
they own the SEC, they own the College Football Playoff.
They own a bunch of shows that sit there and
argue about all of it and wag the dog and
(09:44):
get everybody all riled up, including the selection show, which
Notre Dame feels misled by. And then we all go
through these machinations or these stages of the cross or
whatever you call it to satisfy ESPN basically in a
(10:08):
giant circle jerky. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's all the same people doing the same thing and
creating the story. Notre Dame obviously, I mean two things
can be true at the same time. Is Notre Dame
being a little bit petulant? Perhaps, But do they have
a point? Absolutely, they have a point, and they feel
on the outside of this. Notre Dame is the only team.
(10:40):
I'm pretty sure, as was evidenced by the Longhorn Network,
Notre Dame is the only team that can have their
own TV deal and they've proven it out since what
is it, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Nineteen?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
How long have they been on an NBC forever? And
as long as somebody's willing to pay them and they
have their own TV deal, they don't have to join
anybody's conference or playing anybody's reindeer games. Maybe they have
to adjust their scheduling. I don't know, but I see
their point. Maybe Bovaqua has done one or two too
(11:17):
many press conferences, but I understand that they're upset about it,
and I just what bothers me is.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't like pretending.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
That ESPN doesn't own it all and is pulling all
the strings, and that's part of the problem. And Fox,
where we work, as part of the problem too, because
they own the Big ten and represent the Big ten
and both entities run college football, and we're basically making
it up as we go along, and that's going to
(11:49):
lead to a lot of incongruity. That's always been our sport.
There's always been a lot of confusion and a lot
of argument. It's kind of made the sport what it is,
and the regional nature of the sport and people having
temper tantrums and getting upset and calling others out and
(12:10):
press conferences and things like that is part of it. So,
I mean, I understand it pretty well. But the part
that bothers me is that ESPN owns all of it
and we're all just going through the motions for him,
and I'm tired of that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So I've kind of taken this stance on on social
media for whatever the whatever that matters. But Notre Dame
decides to opt out of the ball game, and I
understand the motivations as to why, based on how ESPN
handled the college football playoffs, some of the things that
were told in the weeks leading up that they were
going to be good, they were going to make it
in and obviously that rug gap pulled out from underneath
(12:45):
of them in the final ranking, and then you know,
ESPN turns around and says.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hey, but come play this bull game. You know you
want to play for a national.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Chance we own and we're gonna, Yeah, we're going to
man pop Tart. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make you
do snow Angels in the rosting.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And we're going to make sure that we bring in
a team that also didn't get in as frustrated in BYU,
and we're going to promote the fact that neither of
your institutions wants anyone to have sex before marriage and
go from there. But there's a lot of pushback from people,
and it feels like it's mostly from ESPN folks because
obviously this hurts their bottom line, but even like other
(13:22):
people out there, which they're chiming in, and I'm kind
of like, here's my opinion on all this. We played
in a Bowl game when after ty Wllingham got fired,
and we voted as a team to do it because
of a lot of our upper classmen said, unless you're
playing for a national championship, which at that day and
age right, it was all the BCS or at BCS
(13:43):
New York six game, you don't go. And we had
to convince our upper class and to go and it
was like a sixty to forty VOA. And you know
what happened in that bowl game. No one took a
we got beat up. No one took us seriously, Like
the coaches were looking for jobs players. Everyone was going
out the entire time. We're in Scott's though. No one
took it seriously, and everyone says, like, we'll look back
(14:04):
on it, you know, would you have done something differently? Yeah,
probably not go Probably not go to a bowl game
that it was a great experience. I had a fun
time with my teammates, but it was basically a party.
Could have done that on campus, could have gone on
vacation together, something else. And so today, like twenty some
years later, like I look at a Petros and guys
are opting out because they either going to the draft
(14:25):
or maybe they're just going to go in the transfer portal,
or maybe there's even some players who have some injuries
that need to get stuff taken care of. Coaches are
looking at the transfer port that comes up here in
January trying to either retain.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guys or fill in spots in their roster.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's like it almost makes the case like why would
you play an exhibition game if you're not playing for
national championship. Like, I understand that everyood loves football is
for the love of the game and all that, but
really it's like, what's the upside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Anymore with some of these games? Some of them?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Right, every team has their own story and every individual
coach and group of players has its own motivation. So
I think you're absolutely right. For some people, it doesn't
make sense. For others, they're hypermotivated to have the extra
practice and try to keep the team together and retain players,
or have one more game together and do all that
(15:15):
stuff that we say. I think it goes both ways,
and I absolutely agree with all of your points.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't think Notre Dame wanted.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
To play in ESPN's charade this year after they felt
used by ESPN during the year, and I think that's
absolutely fine that they didn't want.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
And it's totally understandable for some people or some teams
and some individuals the Bowl game is meaningful. For others,
just depending on circumstance.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It isn't.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And I think that's fine. If I'm Notre Dame, I
wouldn't want to go have mayonnaise port all over my head,
or run around with the giant pop tart and sit
there and play while the announcers eat and chew in
the microphone. I totally get it. It totally makes sense
to me. The Bowl season has become something different. I
(16:15):
don't know if it's going to go away, or how
many will go away, or what will happen, but I
think you're absolutely right. It's just the part that bothers
me is that everybody just acts like the whole thing's
not orchestrated by ESPN and their pundits go on and
make all these points and get all excited and point counterpoint,
(16:38):
and of course we don't have any like It's the
most ridiculous thing in the world. It's worse than politics.
And that's part of the problem here. I think, if
you're going to have a committee, which it's not necessary,
but if you're going to have a committee, just have
football people. Are media people like Ivan masl Is on there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
The guys worked everywhere and Sports Illustrated and all that.
Chris All, Mike Riley, Wesley Walls like those are hardcore
football people. But with all due respect to administrators, ads
are politicians, and politicians do what they flip on public opinion.
They have yeah, politics, politics, publicy, no backbone whatsoever. And
(17:25):
that's why you'll have Notre Dame ahead of Miami all
year and then suddenly the year ends and it flips
because of political pressure.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's what you have.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
On this board or committee or whatever with a bunch
of ads. If you need to have an administrator, have
one ad be in charge of the whole thing and administrate.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But to have a bunch of.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Ads in this group makes the group political and politics suck.
If you're going to have a Maybee, you have hardcore
football people, and you'll probably have a less offensive vote
at the end of the year or less surprising vote
at the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Pat tros H, let me follow up on what Q
was saying. Not to step on one, you Jones, but
they want to get too far away from what Q
said the first time in track Yeah yeah, ten dollars yeah,
uh so, so let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
This, Does this actually create a critical mass situation in
your estimation, like the fact that the premise behind why
Notre Dame doesn't want to do it, you know, doesn't
want to play this game and do the ring around
the Rosie dance with ESPN. Does this set a precedence
(18:45):
that could be dangerous to ESPN moving forward?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, I don't think they're going to sell off their stuff.
I think what's likely to happen is they'll be a
bigger playoff. ESPN will sell off some of that to Fox,
just like they've sold some of it off.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
To TNT, and the charade will continue.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think the conference championship games are obviously in jeopardy
unless they become playoff elimination.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Games, which would make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And then you have the big mass of bowl games.
Some of those are probably going to end up going
away as well. We need a commissioner or some kind
of czar of college football, but who's going to agree
on that. I mean, the two people that are in
charge are the people that run ESPEN and Fox, behind
(19:36):
the proxies of the big ten in the SEC. So
I think that we reach critical mass a few years ago,
probably LeVar, But there's nobody with enough power to get
everybody under the same roof and to fix the thing.
So if what you like about college football is the chaos,
which is basically what it's always been, then this is
(19:59):
a great.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Time to alive.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has what college football's turned into because you're somebody who
grew up family history in college football, you love the
traditions all that come along with it. Has sort of,
and we talked about a little in the offseason, has
this mixed with, you know, the business side and the
discussions and the has it kind of I don't want
(20:23):
that tainted. For lack of a better term, I don't know.
I mean, it's all on the whole sport, not.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Really, because if you look back on it, there really
is no good reason that we have and I'm sure
I've made this point before, but there's no good reason
to have these gigantic, multi billion dollar football entities within
our institutions of higher education. In so many ways, the
(20:50):
football team has become the identity of a lot of
these schools, and those two things they really don't jib
It's just something that happened in the early part of
the twentieth century. And I don't think it happened on purpose.
It happened because the sport was popular and there was
a demand for it, just like it would happen with
(21:11):
any sport that got popular. The pile of money that
started being made by the athletic departments because of the
TV deals and all the endowment and the boosters and
all that stuff. It got so big that it kind
of towered behind the people that were in front of it,
(21:33):
and that money has to be distributed to people that
are playing.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
At this point, it just has to be.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We could say when Mike was going to games with
my grandfather and my dad at the coliseum and watching
players play and listening to the fight song, that it
was a purer time.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But what's so pure about it?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
You have a bunch of guys making a bunch of
money for the university that end up getting spit out
by the program when their career is over. We've all
seen what football can do for people in a positive way,
we've all seen what it can do for people in
a negative way, and we've all seen the ugly side
of the sport, however you want to define that. And
(22:14):
all of that stuff was going on when we thought
the game was more quote unquote pure. So I think
we've always been in the sewer and now it's just
a lot harder to maintain a team and grow a
team and to cultivate a culture, but that doesn't mean
we still don't have culture, and we still don't have games,
(22:35):
and we still don't have identities of coaches and programs.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So I look back.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I try to avoid talking about the good old days
because I don't think they exist. I think this has
been an evolving kind of It's been an evolving anomaly
for over one hundred years, ever since Redgrange made the
sport popular at Illinois. And we live in it now
(23:05):
and there's nobody. The NCAA is two week to take over.
The TV companies aren't going to get along and promote us.
I mean, we've had some uniformity. The SEC agreed to
play the extra conference game and all that, and they
closed one of the transfer portals. So you could say
that's progress, but it's a little bit like throwing a
deck chair off the Titanic with all the stuff that's
(23:27):
going on.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's a great visual.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
By the way, you also talked about the expansion and
Fox can get peace. I'm not so sure a little
bit because of how divisive things are between ESPN and Fox.
And they'll be do a TNT branding. I believe on
this year's playoff in some games. I mean, TNT is
really not involved much at all in college football.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But I digress. I want to generally ask you this.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You're done with call on games, like, yes, well obviously
you got the radio show going on, But is this
kind of a like what do you venture into this
time of year?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Some other stuff you guys are doing. I assume family
traveling all that. I wish I could find a way
to make some more money, but well, the Pro Football
Foundation or the National NFF give me some money.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
To tell my story.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, I need money, but this time of year I
just kind of delve back into family life and try
to make sure trying to make sure that everybody gets
their holiday wishes, and trying to support my wife. It's
not an easy time because you kind of strive and
strive for the year to end, as you guys know,
(24:41):
in the football season, and then the year ends and
you remember all of the problems that you had before
it began, and you kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Have to go back to working on those. So that's
kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Usually I go through a real state of elation when
the season is over, and then a feeling of loss
and desolation, which is what.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Is there any sort of optimism or positivity. Can you
can talk to us about this time of day? No,
I mean the Dodgers signed Edwin.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, the trumpet guy, he plays a trumpet out of his.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Ass and then he comes. They do that, the Dodgers, Yeah,
they're gonna do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
They used to have the Eric Gangne Welcome to the Jungle,
and he used to come out and blow people down.
And then they had California Love with Kenley Jansen not
as popular, and now they'll do the trumpet butt call.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, Petro's gonna be great always. Uh, He's appreciated.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
It's another guy that blew out his knee celebrating like
Martine great Gramatica.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah in the the World Baseball Classic.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I believe when he did it. Yeah, WBC. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Petros Papa Vegas, the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five seventy l a Sports Fox college football analyst. He
can get him on X at the old p Petros.
We appreciate it and then oh there you go the
great Petros Papadas with us here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Petro a best is I need more money?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
For that National NF money it was.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was also nice for levard a lot us ask
a couple of questions too in that interview.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
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Speaker 1 (30:45):
So some of the best in college football to ever
do it, and you know, there's there's also some other
stories going on in college football, which really, like what well,
in my opinion, way more interesting than any of the
round matchups is Notre Dame versus. Everybody has been really,
(31:05):
really entertaining. Pete Bavaqua, the Notre Dame athletic director, spoke
yesterday about sort of how things kind of took a
turn when it came to dealing with the ACC and
Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC, let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (31:23):
I think it was like a three to three and
a half week campaign. Saw the first social media post,
and my gut reaction was somebody in their socialmediate department
got over their skis and did something that the ACC
was going to correct. And quite frankly, I was kind
of expecting a phone call saying, hey, sorry about that.
It won't happen again. But then it did happen again,
(31:44):
and we started to communicate with the ACC texts that
I sent, emails that I sent, and it continued to
happen and I had a conversation, I had a phone
call with Jimmy we could go today saying hey, listen,
you know that's a conversation I want to keep between
me and Jimmy, but certainly got the point across that
(32:06):
this was raised eyebrows and you got to know it's
caused damage here between the university and the ACC. It
just kind of puzzled us that a conference that's home
to over six hundred of our student athletes walking around
this campus today, I guess chose to go down that road.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Why would you attack.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
An unbelievably important business partner of yours in football and
a member of your conference in twenty four other sports.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So that's a Notre Dame athletic Derek Man. Have you
talked to him? I haven't talked to Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I haven't talked to our athletic director, but I would
generally just say this.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, college football is what ultimately drives the revenue,
drives ratings, and that's Notre Dame's identity.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So I personally look at it and say, I get
it from both sides of it, Like I understand that
there's a lot of other sports student athletes who are
maybe looking at it going, well, we're in the ACC,
like why why are they campaigning like that?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But I also look at it and said, you're not
for football.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And if Jim Phillips, who's the conference commissioner, is okay
with them pushing for a team like Miami pushing for
their conference champion, Duke, Like, I get it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Like I don't look at social media, and maybe that's
just the difference in age and experience and all that
as social media, like I don't look at it to
be this sort of professional platform.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's just not so. When we really.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Want to boil us down and say, well, there was
a campaign to me person, I'm like, all right, like
water under the bridge, you know. I think one of
the things that that I looked at it was like, okay,
this is more of what I would say was kind
of an issue. Is when you do something out of
the norm, like the ACC network continually playing the Notre
Dame Miami game for like two three days straight, whatever
(33:59):
it was. When you see stuff like that, you're like, okay,
that's a little different. Like that's someone who's actually taking
cable channel like airtime and they're playing it over and
over and over again, which is out of the norm.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
They've never done that before. I think were the intentions
were to make sure they reminded people that mind me
beat Notre Dame, and by political ads that you see
exactly like that was where you kind of felt like, okay.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
But you're making it us versus them thing, and that's
kind of what the idea is really trying to drive
home here, right.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, And I think the one thing that gets a
little bit like the where the water gets a little muddied,
is like, you have a partial affiliation. So even though
it's twenty four of the sports, you're also playing five
games a year that are against the ACC, and the
ACC schedules that like Notre Dame Messina any control over
which five of those are. There's a lot of people
don't understand how the scheduling comes about for Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's part of that. A lot of people, by the.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Way, are like, oh, the ACC saved Notre Dame during COVID,
and there's some truth to that as far as what
the that schedule is going to look like for them
because of how various conferences handled COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I will remind people too though the one year they.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Are part of the conference, they swept the regular season
and they played the conference championship game lost to Clemson.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But still if people wanted to join a conference, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think Notre Dame is going to compare favorably versus
most they would have in the playoff this year, versus
SEC opponents.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I think the greater thing that I would draw.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Or point to that ultimately led to the frustration for
Notre Dame fans not getting the playoff at least in
regards to the ACC was the way they went about
determining who played the conference championship game.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That should be the same for every powerful conference.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
The fact that we don't have, I mean, and this
is really the greater issue in college football, the fact
that not everyone plays nine conference games, which they will
starting next year.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You get the SEC doing that, obviously, the Big Ten
does that, the Big Twelve, et cetera. You're getting a
little bit closer to that.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
But then it's like, okay, well can we all agree
not to schedule FCS opponents. Like if you look at
a lot of these old MISS resumes this year, or
excuse me, the SEC resumes this year Old MISS in particular,
they've had an SEC opponent on it. If you really
break down, they played three teams with winning records the
three or four teams something like that. It's like, all right, well,
how hard was that schedule that no one's talking about
that just because they have one loss, It wasn't that
(36:21):
difficult of a schedule. So there's a lot of inequities,
unequal you know, schedules that were trying to compare it
to determine who should be playing off for this thing.
Well that even extends to the conference championship game. How
do we get those two teams there? If they had
adopted the AAC tie breaking scenarios, which is head to
head then the highest college football playoff ranking, you know
(36:43):
which two teams are, you would have got Miami versus UVA.
Miami would have won. Miami's in, Jmu's out, not her
names in. And that's probably how it should have worked.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Like, as much as.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
We want to make this a whole Notre Dame Miami
thing and everything else, Miami should have won the ACC.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
They're the best team in the conference.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Instead you have Duke playing offers Uva as a five
loss conference champ because of their odd tie breaking. It
was what record versus common opponents or winning percentagers common opponents,
some odd way in which they went to a third tiebreaker.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
But that's not an automatic qualifier, right, Well, no, no,
it would be.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It would be an qualify. It would be automatic qualifier.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It doesn't mean you get a buy So two years
ago it meant you would have you the top four
highest conference champion reicks, we'll get buys.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Now they just said it's automat qualifiers. So duke, it's in.
They're not in the playoffs. No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So because they but no, no, because they weren't one
of the five highest ranked conference champions.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
They're a five lost team. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
But I think what I think some people have been
getting turned around and mixed up on what automatic qualifying represents. Like,
doesn't mean that if you win your conference in a
power in one of the power in any of the
power for conferences, that you're an automatic quality. That's not it.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Well again, it's it's that's not it because of the
way these different conferences construct their tie breaking scenarios. Yeah,
it should all be the same, Like aren't we all
angling towards the same thing, Like we're trying to get
all the best teams playing for it. So if you
have different conference tie breaking scenarios, you're gonna come up
with a different result. The ACC came up with this
result where Duke's playing UVA, and if Duke wins, the
(38:30):
disaster scenario for the ACEC they have to sit there
and look at their conference champ with five losses. That's
not gonna get in the playoff. I had no shot
getting the playoff, even though they I think they ESPN
had someone there. You're standing on campus to the microphone like, yeah,
Jonas up here. We think that Duke Blue Devils ma
have a shot and get again at that's like, no,
they have no shot.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
But you get an ACC team into the College Football
Playoff though.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
You do, but they're not recognized as their conference champ, right,
That's what they're saying. They have to be lucky enough
that the committee finally moved them ahead of Notre Dame
because they head.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
To head like Ohio State wasn't in the Big Ten
championship game last year, and they and think about it,
and I said that I made this point. Ye before
you have a national title holder that didn't even win
their conference.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
There's a there's a conference. Yeah, there's a conference. All
four teams last year in semi files. None of them,
none of them, none of them won the conference. Weird, So
so why I don't find by that?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
But whytchul to me, why should the conference championship matter?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Okay, that brings up another question? Why should it?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Like like if i'm if i'm you know, I mean,
I'm not trying to talk for Peter, I'm not trying
to talk to anything else.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I would I would step back from.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
All of this and say, we're not going to point
out like how we feel like we were in you
know it was injust with what happened. Let's talk about
this whole process and let's better understand how we get
to the best twelve of teams playing for it because
we don't all have the same criteria, we don't all
have the same stuff. But everyone who wants to hold
(40:07):
that over Notre Dames head. But join a conference, you
join a conference. You don't need to join a conference
in order to win the national championship, because why the
teams in the conferences don't win their conference and go
play for a national championship?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
They played for one last year? Yeah past your point,
Ohio State won it last.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Year and they didn't play in their conference champions So
like then it kind of devalues it all together. So
now it makes it like, well, why don't we figure
out a way of structuring this where those games are
like playing games, you know during that weekend?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Why are we doing conference championship weekend?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Why can't we do like some sort of hey the
top you know, however many teams, the rankings are all
squaring off.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
You know what I'm saying, Like you could start that round.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
There as opposed to saying we got to play conference championships,
then we gotta go to the first round. Then we're
gonna go to the quarterfinal, like you could. You could
expand this thing to sixteen, and we could start this
thing a little sooner, which I think a lot of
people would be all four.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
There's too many sensitivities on trying to get X amount
of teams in.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
That's what I think. Yeah, well I think that's part
of it.
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the Indianapolis Colts. They've got a brand new quarterback in
(42:23):
their roster. What's his name, Sims? Philip Rivers. Oh, granddaddy.
Granddaddy is back at forty four years old. He is
signed to the Colts practice squad. He could be an
option if Riley Leonard can't go because of the knee
injury he suffered. Daniel Jones has been placed on season
ending ir that's a wrap on his season. And here
(42:46):
we go with Philip Rivers potentially taken over as quarterback
one in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
So interesting.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Note he's on the practice squad now, which means he's
still eligible to be voted in. He's a semi files
for the Hall of Fame. He's still eligible as of
now to be voted now. If he gets moved to
the active roster, clock resets, so you have to wait
another five years.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So interesting kind of note to that.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
So obviously he has a desire to want to do
this to help out to go play. He's been coaching
with high school football, probably.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Slinging it around. You know, it feels good, they said.
He looked good in the workout.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I think I wonder too if he's seeing not only
how much money some guys are making now, but just
the protection quarterbacks are getting, and he's thinking I can
go in and do this, like I can still go
in and do this.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I'm out of loss for words on this one. Is
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Forty four, Like I'm literally three to four years older
than him, and.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I know how I feel. I feel old.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
He's got to feel old. He's played. He played a
lot longer than I did. I just I don't understand it. Like, listen,
a lot of people had a problem when George Foreman
came back.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You're old, You're over the hill. That'll never work out
for you. When you get punched, you'll realize you're too
old for this and you'll go back into retirement.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
That I mean, there is the opportunity for this to
be a pretty interesting tale of never giving up. And
if you have a dream of being able to overcome
something like I want to be a forty four year
old that does this after coming back out of retirement
from X amount of years inactive. I guess that makes sense,
(44:37):
but I just don't want to see the alternative. That's
all like if it all, it's all fun and good.
You know, George Foreman was able to get through the
fights and get to a championship fight and win the
title again at an old ass a. He used to
take so many punches thof I mean, bro, he took
a lot of punches.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I remember him at the end of his career when
you're talking about this, Jonas, you did too, but I
just remember thinking, he took so many.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Times out of the man.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Yeah, they couldn't, but he he caught Mike Mercer or whatever.
Michael Mercer, I believe that. Michael Moore, Michael Moore and
he's from WESBA. It's just for me, I don't want
to see somebody get a hold of Philip Rivers and
he just poof and like just you know, literally just
evaporate away after he gets hit, Like I just don't
(45:27):
want to see that.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
You would know this obviously better than I would, But
just from watching him, he always seemed like a pretty
quick release, like he was getting.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That really quick release.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
He knows how to diagnose everything. And look that they've
got Jonathan Taylor to Lena. So you know, for me,
like I think it's a decent setup. They have a
really good offensive line playing indoors right, and he was
already there, so he knows the system to a degree.
He knows the team, maybe even some of the personnel.
So there are some advantages to why he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I just, you know, I don't know by the way
he's all ready because I'll say it right now. If
he's average, they don't even have to make the playoffs.
If he's average, he's comeback player of the year. I
don't want to hear anybody throw any other name out there.
And as I go and check who the comeback player
of the year odds are right now, Christian McCaffrey on
(46:17):
DraftKings is your favorite.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
At minus one forty. Yeah, he's carry them.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Second is Dak Prescott a plus one twenty five, also
carry this team, And third Philip Rivers at eighteen to one.
If he's just average, that guy should win Comeback Player
of the Year in the NFL this year based on
what he's doing five years off.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
He will base his comeback off of or base it
on him reproducing again.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Like what's hold on? I was going to ask you,
I can go to the well.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
You always bring this up though you think he was
at home for the five years just miserable and his
waiting for the next.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Say he was miserable, But I'm gonna say, if you're
willing to come back and play after you've been out
as long as he has, as old as he is,
he's looking at the alternative like, Man, I'm coaching, I'm home,
I'm here. It's like I'm herem mob, Hey, that me, Moby,
where are you at?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Like what? Like bruh?
Speaker 6 (47:13):
His house is like a shopping mall, like like seriously,
Like I just I know I get over stimulated and
I'm not anywhere near the amount of kids him or
Sean Alexander have. I'm nowhere near that, And I know
I get overwhelmed, and I'd be like, all right, are
we doing the super Bowl? Like I don't want to
(47:33):
go to the super Bowl, But the only reason why
I want to go to two reasons. See, you guys,
all of us get together and be able to be
in the same place, but I want to get the
hell away from like all of that. From time to time,
I got to get like I'll be sitting up in
there and you actually stop and listen and look at
everything that's going on around you, and you're like, how
(47:56):
the hell did I choose this for myself? Like why
is this where? I? Like, then you start going into
this weird little deal like I used to be somebody
in my life like I used to things used to matter,
and it used to be quiet like and then you
start to look around and then the noise gets louder again,
and then you come back to yourself and it's like, Dad, Dad,
(48:18):
I've been talking to you for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Are you okay? Like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
So if I'm Philip Rivers, I can only imagine that
is multiplied so many times over.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
And he's like, I would love to go into a
locker room.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
I would love to go into a meeting room and
have peace and quiet, look at some film, throw the
ball around, and get away from that. Because when you
got all that, it's a whole lot of shorties. And
I tell you what, when you shorty jump in your ear,
just go grab some hot sauce.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
That don't make everything better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
If your mouth is full of food, you can't say
the wrong thing and get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I found that.
Speaker 6 (48:56):
Out myself, So listen if you're going to going to
do that, throw some Louisiana Hot Sauce on. It's only
three simple ingredients and it'll make your plate better of
the turn every day into a tailgate because it's just
got that type of flavor to it, if you know
what I mean. So listen, make sure you get you
some original Louisiana Hot sauce, add a little bit to
(49:16):
your day and make every day a game day. That's
Louisiana Hot Sauce by you Zoom.
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