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Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys recap the Thursday Night game with the Falcons beating the Bucs and Todd Bowles is catching heat for his performance. Plus the guys discuss Joe Burrow's comments on having fun playing or not, Quinn's Wins, and more!!

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(01:02):
quarterback and a Bengals quarterback for another Bengals team that's
not going to the playoffs. Was talking with the media
recently and just sort of addressing where he's at from
his standpoint with the season being what it is and
sort of where he's at at this point in his career,
and had this to say, if.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
I want to keep doing this, I have to have
fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
it for.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm not sure there is a singular moment or time.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's just a.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done
and been through in my career. I think I've been
through more than most and it's certainly not easy on
the brain or the body. So let's trying of if
I'm doing it again.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Some people have taken that as he's not happy with
the Bengals organization. I took that as maybe he's not
happy with physically and mentally where he's at and it's
starting to take a toll on him.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's how I don't think one has to be false
for the other to be true.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
It could be all of it.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know a lot of things that guys go through
once they leave college and get to the pros is
that they have to figure out.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
How to lose.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
And it's a lot of times most of us, at
like an elite level, we don't know what losing really
feels like. We know what a loss feels like singular
like here and there, you'll lose a game here and there,
But losing, you know, that's that's not that's not easy,
and there's nothing fun about it. And there's nothing profound

(02:46):
about not being happy in failure. So it's not a
place where you want to get used to being. It's
not something that you want to be okay with. So
you know, and you throw in it, you know, his
health with that, I think it's a it's it's very
reasonable to say what it is that he's saying, like,
it's not fun losing, it's not fun fighting, you know,

(03:10):
through injuries and trying to get your health right. Is
there's a there's a lot of moving parts to a
football season. I can only imagine how much more that's
amplifac you win you're a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean I was gonna look at one thing
differently because Jonas has written off this Bengals team and
that's not technically true. True they do have a one
to three percent chance of making into the playoffs, and
they'd have to do that by winning the division. So all,
I'm sorry, here's what needs to happen. Okay, for a
seven and ten Bengals team, maybe you would just want
to say eight to nine just seems rather unlikely that

(03:45):
they would be able to win out the rest of
the way. The Steelers would need to go zh to
four over their final four games, the Ravens would need
to go one in three over their final four games,
and then.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
The Bengals would have to go at a minimum three
and one.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So there's your scenario. That's how they'd go about winning
it out. But so it's not over completely. I will
say this when I hear those words by Joe Burrow,
and I understand he has been through some tough times
with injuries and the Bengals organization, you know, and the

(04:23):
frustration with whatever they're doing out around him on the
roster and all those things.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You're twenty nine years old, you're.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Playing under a contract where you got two hundred nineteen
million dollars guaranteed. I just it doesn't register when you
say fun, like when it's not fun. First off, as
a competitor, and trust me, I was drafting the Browns
dealt with adversity from injuries to going to other teams

(04:54):
where things didn't go well, wasn't playing as well as
what I'd like to all those things injuries involved. I
literally chose to go and play on a team that
I knew it was a chance that you know, maybe
it wasn't gonna be as good, purely because I wanted
a chance to go play. It didn't matter if I
was gonna get my ass kicked or not. I wanted
to play, like I just wanted to compete. So it

(05:19):
hurts me a bit to hear him say that, because
as much as you want to find joy in this career,
this job that is playing football professionally, it's a flipping gift,
is a blessing, like it is the greatest thing in
the world, in my opinion, And it's not always gonna

(05:40):
be fun. In fact, more often than not, it's it's
not gonna feel fun. Fun is afterwards, Like I'm sure
fun for him was when you're hosting up the AFC
Championship trophy, going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
But that's after.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
All the work, all the stress, all that everything you've
put into it goes into it, like all the adversity, and.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Honestly, when you look back on it, that's what made
it fun.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Like that was the whole point of of it being fun,
was the journey to get there because it was so
damn hard. Like that's the thing that I just look
back when I hear him say that, I'm like, dude,
let's just step back and look.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Let's just look at this.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You and the point zero zero one percent of people
in the world as far as what you're earning. So
even if you can't find it fun, let's just look
at it from that standpoint.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
You're making almost fifty million year beyond that.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Like again, like this is about a competitor, Like you
should be ticked off, you should be angry, you should
be motivated.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
This thing's not over yet. I mean that's how I
look at it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So I hate to hear these words because people start
to compare to Andrew Luck and oh, is he gonna
retire early all stuff?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I don't think so, because I think he's a competitor.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And I've said this all along, and Pete Prisco tried
to rail against me for sam it and he defends
the Bengals organization because a couple people in the organization
actually talk to him, you know, they're always nice to them.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So he's like, oh, I'm not gonna get them more
to him. But the truth is like, and I know
Bengals fans gon upset when I say this.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's not just me Sands Boomera size and one of
your owners said this, it's a cheaper organization and despite that,
they've still been able to put together.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Good rosters at times. This year is an example of that.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Unfortunately, with the borough injury, it held back the chance
to seeing what they really could end up being. Now
I'm not giving up hope. It's not over till it's over.
You know, they still have a chance if things go
their way and they you know, can can win out
Like there's still some things there for them.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But I hate.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Hearing this from Burroughs from a sheer standpoint that it's
not relatable. There's so many people out there who are
struggling in a variety of ways, and yeah, your adversities
are tough because it's your body, or it's you know,
what people are saying about you, or maybe frustrations with
what the organization's doing. But man, just let's just stay
back and look at this from standpoint. Holidays coming up,

(08:03):
families who don't have much, you know, kids who aren't
going to have anything, Like, you're very blessed to be
in the position you are, like fun Like, I just
that doesn't register with me.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Man, Ain't that's heavy? That's heavy right there?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, he also could have just
been having a moment, like it could be you know,
long season frustrated. I think they asked him later on,
you know, is it you know, is there like personal
stuff going on?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
He goes, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Of everything, so like he could have been having a moment,
and you know, upon further review, maybe realizes, Yeah, not
the most relatable thing to to be complaining about.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
His Like, nonetheless, he was candid and he was transparent. Yeah,
I mean when when guys aren't transparent, we got a
problem with it, you know what I mean, Like when
guys speak their truth, like sometimes it doesn't hit well.
But nonetheless, he told us how he was feeling. And
and again at the at the beer men of it all,

(09:00):
like if you've been a winner, like stuff like that
will bother you if you've been healthy not being healthy
will bother you.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
That's what I was gonna because that's got to be
the like, the mental part of it, knowing that every
like every year something comes up with him seemingly like there's.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know, knee injuries. That's got to be frustrated. Going
all the way back to all and healthy, that's got
to be frustrating, And it just is, it is what
it is. Moment when you are you're one of the
best in the league, that's got to be frustrating and
you just can't stand there. Have you ever been great
at something? And no, you weren't as great as you

(09:40):
once were. No, And then you see things like kind
of changing and not being exactly the way that it
was when you were.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
As great as you were.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Like, I don't know how deeply he's looking into what
he's feeling and what that response you know, was based
off of. But you know, sometimes emotion can can get
the best of you if you're going through some trying moments,
some trying times, and if it's resonating from where he's working,
I mean, you know, I get it. I get the

(10:12):
perspective too, I mean I get cues perspective. I mean,
that's very there's very real realities out here, and the
reality of it is is wind loser draw, You're You're
going to be fine financially, you know, and stable financially speaking.
But I also look at it from the standpoint of,
again being a competitor. When you have results that go

(10:35):
your way for so long, you get you get a little.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Bit used to it.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like it it like you get I don't want to
say you get comfortable with it, but it just becomes
a part of what.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
He's probably used to. Missing the playoffs. Now say it's
been a while.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh well, apparently, regardless of apparently, regardless of what he's
not having fun and happy about right now, the reality
of it is is Joe Burrow is not happy and
he's not having fun, at least as much fun as
he could be having. So I think that he has

(11:16):
to figure out how to have fun again. I think
this Bengals team has to figure out how to have
more success and you know, maybe go from there.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
He needs to put a chip on his shoulder, bro,
you know, you need to put that rock on your
shoulder and start wanting to fight back. I mean, I
know he's been through injuries and so but a lot
of guys are dealing with injuries, you know, like that
that's the truth of the league. I mean you already
depreciating asset, you know, and as you go further and
further than the league, you're gonna be like a beat

(11:46):
up truck. And I think that's one of the things
that like Tom Brady always took pride in was, you know,
outside of missing one season, dude, he was He's an
iron man. Plan to he's forty five, the way he
took care of his body, the way the ball out
of his hand. He had to adapt his game and
adjust just for the chance to go play into his forties.

(12:08):
And you look at all these guys, Philip Rivers coming back,
Aaron Aaron Rodgers. I mean these are guys who are
over a decade older than him, and they're they're fighting
for the chance to come back and play and compete.
Do you think Aaron Rodgers has had fun how things
have gone, how they went in New York? I mean again,

(12:29):
like life isn't always going to be fun, Like that's
not the purpose. So I just look at it and say, like, man,
I don't call me, call someone.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Who you know wishes they're there. They were back there
doing it.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh you could still be doing it.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, don't do that. We're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, let's just have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
A serious moment right now. Why are you like throwing
weird stuff out there while people's wed?

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
It is so sorry, So let me let me back away.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Sorry, that's a fine.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
That's a tap on another ten bucks and kiss my ass.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You guys. There you go.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
God forbid, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Gonna say here's what the fine is gonna be. Let
me type it in real quick.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Jonas knocks on twelve twelve for being a little bitch.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
God, can we all get fines today? I wonder.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Did we institute a fine for you?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Not today, yesterday? Yesterday? One? Though?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, you're scared of varn giving Jonas a participation trophies.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
As a blatant one?

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Do you think that he's is this sort of a
signal that he's not happy with the Bengals organization.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I don't want to go there because I don't I
don't know that. I mean, they gave him everything he
was asking for this year, and they've given him the
contract he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know, So I don't want to. I'm not going
there and saying that.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know, when I look at Joe burrow situation, it's
so different because he's from Ohio, right He was, you know,
from Athens, so that's why you don't play his high
school ball, and there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Of ties back there. He went to Ohio State initially,
so it's a.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Lot different when Carson Palmer gets drafted there and you know,
he's a California kid, what you know, It just it
hits a lot different when you're in a place where
you grew up and you have so many relationships and
so many things going on for you and you always will,
right Like, he's not like those roots are playing an
arket to continue to grow even after his career is done.

(14:33):
So I think it's different for Burrow than it was
for Carson Palmer if you really compare those two situations.
But I just I hate hearing that from guys that
you know. As a dad, now, I look at it
and I just I want to teach my kids to
be competitors, you know. I want them always to strive
to try to try to win, because we live in

(14:55):
a society now that does not push that. Like, I
had a long talk to my daughter last night because
she started asking them about stuff when I was a kid,
and I said, see all those trophies that you have,
I said, when we were little, we had to earn them.
I said, we didn't just sign up for a league
and they gave us a trophy at the end of
the season because we participated.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That was what our jersey was. I was like, when
you had a jersey or you had.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
A hat from your baseball team, I was like, that
was what you, like was sacred to you because you
were on the team. You got to play, and if
you're lucky enough your team was good enough, you won.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You got a trophy, and that was like the accomplishment
at the end. But now that all.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Gets diminished and taken away because it's all about, well,
you participated, so here's your trophy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And so yeah, like the idea of what was it fun? Yeah,
it was fun. I participate. Great.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, man, like fund's winning, like being able to like
strive to achieve something that no one else did, Like,
like that's the fun part. I just I don't know, man,
it stinks to hear that from him, because I do
think he's a competitor. He's one of the most gifted
players the NFL has ever seen. And I understand he's

(16:06):
been through adversity, but my goodness, like, take some perspective now,
like this isn't you know playing football in the NFL
is not the hardest thing you have to do in life.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's very It's true, and you want to be the
Jonas I'm gonna say this, and I know this is
like not entertaining, it's not whatever it is, but like,
you know, you've buried you know, your parents. No, boy,
Like I'm just saying, like, that's that's a much more
difficult thing to have to go through than sitting there saying, well, hey,
it's not fun. I'm feeling down about life right now.
And maybe he's got something personal like that going on.
I don't know, but I just I think about those

(16:40):
real situations in life and the real situations people are
dealing with, and it's it's hard to hear a players
say like, hey, it's not fun, like I would I
mean worded a different way.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, no, and that I get the the perspective on that,
because that's always like, no matter how bad things are
like what's really bad, Like, however, bad thing are what's
really bad in comparison to what what everybody else has
got going on, whatever whatever else is out there. And
I would also say, from a football standpoint, dude, talk

(17:08):
to Joe Flacco, ask him his thoughts on this, Like,
like Joe Flacco knows that the end is near, he
knows that he's not, you know, one of the like
he was brought in for emergency situations, and he probably
looks at it and goes, hey, man, enjoy this while
you got it, because once it's gone, that's a wrap
and you're never going to get that again. And I'm
sure you guys probably feel like nothing's ever replaced that

(17:32):
feeling of being a player in the league.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I kind of I have a different.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And we don't have They might be different for you,
but I will co sign on that.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I literally had a dream the other night about being
in a situation too minute drive going down, and I
was like just a whole thing in my head and
I woke up and I was like, damn, that's depressing,
Like you never you're never going to get that opportunity
to do that again, like and it's it's funny because
people tell you when you're young, Like I remember people

(18:04):
telling me when I was in high school or junior
high like, you know, you get your sleep, get ready,
all this stuff, and just hey man, you're like you
don't want to have any regrets. Like the one thing
I like look back on because it was never about affro,
was never about like working and all that stuff. It's
just like, I don't know, I probably have spoke my
mind a little bit more, like I wouldn't have been

(18:25):
I would have like probably talked a little bit more,
talked to that talk. I was just always so brought
up to be so conservative, and looking back on it's like, no,
I wish I would have said more every once in
a while when there was when instead of like feeling
like I needed to be a leader by example, Like
maybe I should have talked up a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I don't know. I just live life with the idea
of having impact and having gravity and competing. I've never
like football wasn't my first sport. I love football, I
love I love competing, and when I did eating football,
you know, I competed in other sports. I loved those

(19:04):
sports and enjoyed competing in those other sports. I just
I've always felt like things had to be for me.
I felt like my motivation was to be good enough
where I mattered, because if I mattered, then I could
make a difference. And that's like that might sound kind
of corny, but that really has always been my motivation.

(19:27):
Like I saw how my mother and my father impacted
you know, people, like when I was growing up, I
felt like that was something that was compelling for me.
The way they taught us, the way they they raised us,
you know, be a person of impact, And that's what
I've always that's what I've always enjoyed doing. So I
feel like a lot of times the reason why I

(19:48):
was able to play so well is because I wasn't
so so motivated by what it felt like to play
the game, or what what the fans, you know, the
fame of it all as didn't really it all mattered
to me to be able to look at a kid
and say, you can do it. You know, it all
mattered to me to be able to look at a

(20:08):
parent and say, you know, just just hold on and
keep trying, and you know, things are possible. Like that's
all And even like how I live my life now,
I live my life with the same exact approach, just
with more experience and more understanding of how it go
about doing it. So as just for me, I never

(20:29):
really was a football player. I played football, LaVar played football,
but I was never a football player. That's a third
person find by the way. I mean, I was just
just giving it the way that you know how I
feel about it. I just I've never, like I know,
people are like I could never I've never been able
to replace what it felt like on game day and
stuff like that, and like that feeling is that feeling?

(20:51):
Like I could argue the fact that I felt more
intense feelings even at the high school level, then maybe
I did at points in time at the.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
College or pro level.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
That really yeah, why not? I mean, I imagine I
played for a state title in high school. I never
played for any titles in college or or the pros.
So the moment that you know, when we were taking
that bus ride tile Tuna, the pregame, I can tell you.
I can remember in detail how my body felt, how

(21:25):
cold it was, you know what I wore. I could
tell you. I could tell you what my teammates were wearing.
I could tell you moments of that game because of
how intense and how amazing that feeling was. But like
you said earlier, Q, I can also tell you how
it felt when I looked at my nana for the
last time. Yeah, I can tell you how I felt

(21:47):
when I thought that I was going to lose my
dad when I was in the seventh grade because he
had a heart attack. Like I could tell you things
that I could remember, like distinctly, the feelings that it
gave me in those moments, and all of it went
towards like to me, the same thing, like this is
a moment to help me understand how I need to

(22:09):
be in order to make a difference. Like I've always
just wanted to make a difference. And that's like for me,
that's how I've always that's how I've always lived. So
I guess when I left the game, You know, I
left the game with a whole lot on the table.
I could have rehabbed and came back and kept playing.
I was done. Like I didn't look at it like, oh,
I got to stay in football for as long as
I possibly can do. I was done. You know, moving on,

(22:33):
you're going to change professions, moving on, figure.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It out, would you say you live life with no regrets.
I have a few.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
DA I was gonna say, because I feel like from
getting to know you, I feel like you live life
with no regrets.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I do.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I do many things that are presented in front of you,
and you don't turn down. You're like, I'm gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
But there are some things that I do regret where
I could have did better, or I could have you know,
made a better decision, stuff like that. But for the
most part, I do not live with regret.

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Speaker 3 (27:47):
The song is crazy Man, six am, three am. I
don't care four am unless you're still going from the
day before. If this is your new day song, you
got issues man, this is what you want to come
in like, this is this is how your line feels.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Coop's a big fant little Camara Coop.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
How long have you been here working.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
At Fox Sports Radio or tonight tonight?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Like four or five hours?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Okay, so you're at the end of your work day, right,
sure so, meaning that if you weren't doing this show,
this is the end of your day, not the beginning. Correct, correct, Okay,
thank you, I've reached my case. He could get as
turned up as he'd liked to get because he's heading
home to do whatever it is, you know, get fired up,
take a sky high trip into the sky, out to

(28:38):
the outer beyond, go go visit the Milky Way.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
To island, jump into a black hole. You know, he's
at the end. He could turn up.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
We're just getting started. Come on, well, change that song.
I mean maybe the Bucks could have used a little
bit of that music last night.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
They didn't have enough fight huh No, that's ah no,
it was the cream sickled uniform. I think they look
soft as hell, man, Damn do you really? Yeah? Man?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Huh with the don't you don't think they look cool? Dude?

Speaker 9 (29:16):
I think?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I mean when I think about how you looked into
your Washington uniform. I'm like, do you look good in
the Tampa on. I never liked the Washington uniform really no,
like too. Let me ask you this, because you you
had like an iconic, maybe the greatest uniform there is
in college football or all all uniforms. Did you feel

(29:38):
like it was just like too much because you guys
are so simple at Penn State.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Maybe I just didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I didn't like the way, I will say it when
we went to the old school ones with like the
mustard type pants and they had the seminal, Yeah, the
Indian spear on and it was super super like burnt
burgundy type. I love that one. For some read I
liked that one, but I didn't like the regular one.

(30:06):
I like the old cream sickles good good. I like
the old redskins.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
There you go, I mean, because that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Thank you. By the way, LaVar gave me permission, So
I mean I didn't have to give you permission. That's
just the name of the team and what the uniform
was for that team. You can't say, oh, that was
the commander's uniform during that time because they weren't the commander.
So I can point out that Brady grew up an
Indians fan.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
You could point out the fact that I was an
Indian my entire career up until no kidd in college. Yeah,
my little league team, my first team, I was a Brave,
second team, I was a Redskin. The second team, I
was a Chief. Then I went to high school, which
was our we had. You know, back in the day
before all of this craziness, your youth league actually was

(30:50):
supposed to feed into your school district, your high school team.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't know if people if that even.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Still exists these days because all everything that goes on
with you football, but it feeds into your your high
school team. So our high school team words the Indians,
North Iales, Indians, Westview Braves, Redskins, Chiefs. You feed up
by the time you finish. You go into high school,
and all of us played together, and the teams that
played together, we want to stay title. My freshman year

(31:17):
of high school, that was it. I never had a
quarterback ever again in college, not in the Pro dam Eli,
but I wasn't with him long enough to get a
Super Bowl. I missed that that one year Wow, there
you go.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
The quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
All right, everybody got it.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
It's all on the quarterback. Never had I had a
quarterback my freshman year.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Greatest high football player I've ever seen in my life
played both ways and we want stay tighted.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I used to cut hold on, hold on last time
I checked. When you had posted like high school highlights
of yourself, you were a damn good running back. Yeah,
and so you're blaming your quarterback because you didn't have
a service of quarterback after your freshman year.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well know it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
My senior year, we had a great quarterback, Brett Zivich,
and he ended up going to to an Ivy League school.
He's like, bro, he's like split a night Adam type, smart,
like like super brilliant dude. That was a brilliant, brilliant dude,
Like super brilliant like me, Like we used to play
chess all the time. He's super smart dude. But he

(32:21):
hurt his shoulder. He hurt his shoulder mid season and
he tried, he tried to get us. If he was healthy,
we would have went undefeated. My my senior year, we
had two losses. It was against the same team.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Who was tackling you when you were a running back then.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I mean we played football. Bro, there's some dudes. There
were some big dudes. I was we were big as
hell is running back. Yeah, and I was fast and fast.
I saw it and I was quick, So it was yeah,
I know.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
People tackled me. They tackled me. I think you let them.
Let nobody tackle you. Wouldn't, you would hate to play.
I would have held you to a higher standard.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I'd been looking at you in the huddle and be like, hey,
you got you got to you got a carryus, LeVar.
It's all you man, I mean carry I did. God dang, hey,
hey it's still not enough.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I punt it.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I can't. You gotta do even more. I drove the bus.
You gotta do even more. Son. I packed the equipment.
You were the punter too, Yeah, the equipment. In my eyes,
I did every hot the equipment I did. Bruh. I
did everything. I gave my teammates. I gave my You
gave the water. You were the water boy too. I did.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I did.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I made sure the bug juice was you know what,
that's a ten dollars fine, tar am taking this. You're
embellishing this and lie and that's all of us. But
I was an Indian while I was doing it.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Back to the original point and you know what, that's
that's that's so it's okay. I picked up the equipment, yeah,
all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Uh, Atlanta, they they,
I don't know what they proved last night.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
They proved that Kyle Pitts can work.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, how about that? He finally showed up. He looked
pretty good, Like, oh my gosh, he's unstoppable. Like just
get him in space and maybe he could do the
things that big receivers that are athletic can do.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Did you hear the Jon Robinson post game that he's
getting heat for though? He was on talking to Amazon
Prime afterwards and they were just asking him about, you know,
style of play, where'd you learn to play like that
something along those lines, and he dropped a oh.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, just growing up, we played smear the you know what, yeah,
the Q smear the air and uh, I mean he
get in trouble. Like I said, we just had a
whole entire conversation about you could call like if that's
what your team was, that's what your team was, if
that's what your game was that's what your game was.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Look, that was the game.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I didn't if you asked twenty random people that played
that game when they were growing up, what's the name
of the game. Did you guys play growing up?

Speaker 9 (35:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I did, Yes, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I had no clue when I was playing it it
was offensive or that it would be deemed defensive.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
It was called what was it called free for all
or smear to the smear the air.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, that's what it was called.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Nobody had any like ill intentions or or malice or
oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that, Like,
shut up, So what it was called?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I had no clue.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Come on, man, as said, you guys didn't call it
that or you didn't play that.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
No, we played it. I just didn't know that that
they were playing tether ball out here, Like they didn't
play smear air.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
They were playing ball that sound like a growing up
Callie type things to the beach.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
When I first got here, I was like, what in
the sam hell are these kids? Don't Unfortunately I can
confirm as a Cali kid about the tether ball.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That is weird.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I was like, my kids were coming home like and
you gotta and I my I got.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I got them a mobile tetherball deal, like you put
the water in the bottom, build put the put the
pole in it, put the ball in the string on there.
They got good at it because they you know, my
son would break down and cry when he'd lose. My
daughter was beating the hell out of everybody. Such a
dumb game.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Punch the ball around. Another person punched the ball back around,
like like what place near the air? Now you're gonna
learn some character people, you know. You know, I think
tetherball is it's woke. It's a woke speedbag.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
Woke.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, like boxers work the speedbag and then well why
is it woke? Well, just it's very very soft, you know,
they don't it was.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It was.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It was actually considered a British game, tetherball that makes
sense from from the eighteen eighties.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It was a transition from uh like volleyball kind of.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's so whack, it's so wid.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I used to watch I walk my kids to school and.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I stand there and watch them play the game during
you know the time before you go into the classroom.
I'd be like, just off to my own thoughts like
I'd be looking at the parents like you soft mother efforts.
I think they stopped hanging it up at my school
because nobody played just this was grade school. Though this
was grade school. Oh, there was a ton of kids

(37:38):
playing it, a ton of kids. I'm like, get over
there and throw the football, run the football and do
things with a football.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I didn't even see a football. I ain't see no football.
Well the tether ball.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, b Jean Robinson, you are you're forgiving uh, well,
he's any You should be a nationally recognized person apologized.
Just why you gotta apologize for what you do? So
the next thing you're going, he's gonna have to apologize
for being a good running back. What he's gonna have
to apologize being black?

Speaker 8 (38:09):
Like?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
What what else you gotta apologize for?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
It seems like, hey, it seems like a good dude.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
You know it was, you know, very very nice, very humble,
and drop that and then afterwards I had to apologize.
But that's crazy, Todd Bowles had Tampa Bay should have
to apology, should especially if you had a minus six.
Todd Bowles spoke after the game, and he was not
very thrilled with his team's performance and basically put it

(38:36):
on the lapse of the players.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
It's inexcusable if you don't make excuses. We you got enough,
you got care enough for it, got something to you.
It's more than a job good. How well do you
know your job? How well can you do your job well?
You can't sugarcoat it was incusable and because it's for

(39:00):
no excuse for it.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
And that's what you're telling them a lot. I'm really
not sure at this point.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
You've seen everything in the season. You know, the coaches
have done everything they can do. This is a player
driven team. In the last four or five weeks, you
got to execute and they got to hold each other accountable.
As a coach, you're gonna sit there till you blue
in the face until they start holding each other accountable
and doing the little things right. And that's not everybody.
They we're talking about a small select few, but the

(39:26):
small select few is what's getting us beat. And until
that happens, it's not going to get right. So we
got to get up and go to work tomorrow. No
matter how bad today looks. You got to put it
behind you, and we got to win the last three game.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
We know that.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Now, that's much better.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
For contrast, I comprehended the second message the first one
I would have.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I don't know. I don't know what he said. There's
too many, too many beats. I know there was I
know it was in there.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I know I know Buck was in there. And I
do know that those were the two main words that
we're we're getting bleeped out is bucking in an ick.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I think there's an hang on the end of one
of them.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, well, well with the buck bucking you now bucking
you added the eye and get buck.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Can I give you guys some some stature. So Tampa
Bay was fourteen in the fourth quarter one point. They
couldn't get off the field on a third and twenty eight.
They couldn't get off the field enough fourth and fourteen.
I mean, when you give up the final fifteen points

(40:35):
of the game, that's that's rough. Like defensively, I mean,
they look and he's a defensive mind of guy. You
gotta be frustrated. And I'm not saying that the Bucks
offense and so he did enough too, because you get
to figure out a way at some point as well.
But man, and by the way, the penalties too, what
they have like over one hundred yards and penalties whatever

(40:57):
it was.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Nineteen I think they got called for nineteen phenomenaken something
along the lines.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It's like, and you still can't find a way of
winning that game. I get the frustration as a coach.
You know, It's funny.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I talked to a couple guys are coaching the league earlier.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
And one of them said to me, they go the
league has and the media around the league, it feels
like they don't hold players accountable anymore.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Aid that's interesting. I was like, what makes you kind
of say that.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
It's like, you know, when it comes down to it,
when anything is happening on the field and it's not
working out, the coach gets fired or the coach needs
to be fired. It's to coach. It's this, which I
kind of thought, Okay, hold on a second, Like that
is when it comes down to it, really what your
job is as a coach, Like you're not putting your
body in harm's way, so it's your job to get

(41:48):
that player ready. If he's not getting ready yet, it's
part of your resume, Like you're not out there doing it,
so it's kind of on you as a coach to
take some of that blame.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
But do you guys feel like you know, the media
doesn't really blame players quite as much anymore. We see
it a collapse like that, if you will.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
They're fanboys, they're afraid. Yeah, they're afraid because they know.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
But I'm asking you guys, like, do you guys look
at that on you who do you blame? Do you
blame top? You're asking me who do?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I think the blame belongs to everyone to be honest, like, dude,
does the coach deserve more? Yes?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
The coach, in my estimation, deserves more.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
I believe when a team loses it's because and more
often than not, all things given the pro level, Yes,
if you're losing games, it's more so because of coaching
than it is than it is players. But are the
players to blame?

Speaker 7 (42:47):
And in some.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Regards yes, Now if you're getting if you're talking about
sometimes in college or sometimes in high school, all things given,
I can say, for for what it's worth, sometimes the
joe versus the pros it outweighs it. You're not going
to out coach a team that has studs at every
level on their team and you don't. That's not gonna happen.

(43:11):
But all things given in the pros, like we create
these differences between the players and their levels and their
values their value. But I think it's the pros. You
have a draft, you get an opportunity to build your
roster the way you want to build it. You hire
the coaches you want to hire. All things are created
equal as it applies to the pro.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So if you're.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Losing, I think it's more on the management that the
GM on what players they're picking, and the coach on
how the coaching staff is preparing them to play.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I mean, what about in this case in particular, because look,
their receiving corps finally got healthy.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
It was a short week.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
You're against a team that's done, I mean Atlanta's got
I mean nothing going, and you gagged away that game
and Baker Mayfield took accountability for it afterwards. It's like
I like, I look at last night and I go
that that feels like a players type thing. And Todd
Bowles's frustration. I think he's probably just at his wits end, going, look, man,

(44:13):
we are struggling for some Like if you would have
told anybody, hey, week fifteen of the season, Carolina is
in first place in that division. They'd be like wait, what,
like that shouldn't happen And and we talked to Albert
Burn he made the point, I think a couple of
weeks ago where he said, you know, one of the
names to watch when it comes to you know, the
coaching cycle on a potential hot seat is Todd Bowles

(44:34):
in Tampa. It's like, all right, And I think Todd
Bowles calling his team out it probably looks at this
as like, hey, this is the last or like this
is the.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Wake up call.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
If you can't if you can't wake up from this
and realize we'ren't a bad spot, then then there's going
to have to be some changes here.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Maybe he's going to be the guy. But why is
it that that's where you get to with your players?
That's that would be the question I would ask. How
do you get to that point of where where you
are blaming your players for what's taking place at you
Q like.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, And I'll answer I'll answer that simply like sometimes
I feel like the media is the only place where
you can get a hold of them. It's almost as
I mean, this is a tactic that it's not just
in the NFL. It's in college too. You see coaches
at times call players out to the meeting. It's like funny,
it's because oftentimes it's the only way for them to

(45:26):
kind of feel that pressure of them having to see
it over and over and over again. And then maybe
there's some other people who kind of start to pile
on or they start to look at some of that,
you know, performance, and they they realize, like, oh, the
player needs to pick his stuff up. The coach behind
the scenes, when he knows the effort that the player
is putting in, and that's I think part of the
hard thing is it sounded like Todd Bowles was trying

(45:49):
to communicate that to people, like there's some guys who
need to come along. And Todd Boles is a former player,
and I would agree with him in that sense, like
the best teams are always player driven teams.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
The coach can only do so much.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
He's not out there playing, and he's surely not, you know,
going to be in the players meeting rooms after hours
when you should be in there watching film where guys
should be going and getting treatment. And that's and I
think it's frustrating last night considering, you know, you get
all your receivers back, you finally get the combination of Evans,
Chris Godwin, ameca Abuca, and you had McMillan back, like finally,

(46:26):
and it ends up still not amounting to enough when
it's all said and done. And another thing that's odd is,
you know, they had their bye week at a really
good point in the season. You know, they're at the
halfway point. They had two losses, They've only had one
win since their bye week. They are one in five
in their last six, Like this is a tremendous skit,

(46:49):
and don't and then spare me, like, hey, they really
didn't beat anyone in the beginning. Like I know, they
lost to Philly as a one score game was close.
They beat Seattle, they beat a San Francisco team it's
got a winning record, and they got blown out by
Detroit and Detroit. But like, they've got a couple of
good wins in there, and it seems like as their
schedules picked up, they've struggled to be able to find.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Ways of closing out some of those games.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And I just I mean, man, the only the only
good thing in their favor is they got Carolina twice,
who's who's you know. I think that's they're kind of
like a week in week out. Some weeks they're great,
some weeks they're not so great. And then Miami who's
been resurgent, but they at least have a shot of
trying to win out the rest of the way and

(47:32):
we'll see things where things fall.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I still think that comes back to coaching because it's
the culture I really do.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
And you're saying you want to bulls fire. No, it's
not what I'm saying. That is not what I said.
It's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I think it is when when you're talking about you're
a choosing who your employees are using them, and you're
trusting them to go out there and do Like if
you're in the business world and you hire a head
hunting company to go out there and hire you a CEO,
hire you an executives, hire you sales forces and stuff

(48:14):
like that.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
They have a job to do.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
You have the final sign off on the team that
you bring on and that you employ. They put together
the strategies, they put together the plans, and their job
is to take what it is that your business model
is and what you're trying to do and sell it
and impact the bottom line positively. If you do not

(48:37):
do that, the person first of to start with firings
with the team within the team, because you're going to
try to figure out if you can execute better and
get better results. But before before long, whoever it is
that hire the people to hire this team of people,
they're going to lose their job and ultimately they're going
to be held the most accountable by the business. It's like,
why would you unless they're the owner. Unless they're the

(48:58):
owner of the business and they they did this. You
can't hold yourself. You can, but you're not going to
fire yourself anything anybody. But maybe you should. Maybe you should.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Because that's your that's your decisions that led to the results.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
That's how I feel about the pros whatever it is
that that GM has done, and GM and the coaches. Now,
if you're saying I didn't sign off on these guys
being put on our roster, this is not the type
of guys I want on my team. Like you're talking
about you can identify guys. I never identified a guy
that was a self driven, a leader.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
A good dude. Maybe he was a Christian dude, whether
he was like just a you know.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
For why that's mad and as I never saw a
dude that was a solid dude that turned into not
being a solid dude.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Sometimes you gotta give a little to to get a
little bit more. Sometimes you gotta take less to get
it more. Like maybe that that guy.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Isn't as good as this guy over here. Maybe he's
not quite as talented as this guy, but he's a
better guy. He's going to be a leader in your
locker room. Now, if you're going to sacrifice that, you
gotta find what the balance is on that, because if
you get too many guys that aren't into being on time,
aren't into going and taking care of their bodies and

(50:23):
being in the training room and being a good resource
in the in the meeting rooms and different things like that,
and making sure guys aren't making bad decisions as they
grow into being men.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
That's your choice. You make that choice.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
You get an opportunity to interview these guys and figure
out if you want to bring them into your your
locker room and into your building.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
That's your choice.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Yeah, but don't they have to be if they're being
Because Todd Bowles is making it seem like some of
these guys are cutting corners and maybe being a little lazy, Like.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Isn't that in that on you?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
That's in your resume.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
If you let me tell you something, you don't start
being lazy at the pro level, somebody can tell you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
He's a little lazy from time to time. That's that's
how it is. That's how it is.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Do you understand the amount of scrutiny like that players
get when they're coming into the league. They look at
so especially if you're a draft pick. But again, do
you get lazy as scouts? Are you lazy when you're
bringing in free agents?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
What is important to you? Is it there forty time
or is it their character?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
And I'm not saying that this is the case here,
but there are situations where all of a sudden, the
guy gets paid and next thing you know, you know,
you're talking about one person. Well I'm just I'm just
like that SAIDs one person. But that's not on the
organization for paying him. That's on that guy for getting paid.
And then all of a sudden talking you're talking about
one person. That's like, that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
If if a team effort isn't what it supposed to
be and then collectively, you start hearing about a group.
He said, it's not a large group, but a small group. Well,
that group is large enough where they're not winning games,
So you can't say how small. You're not going to
say one person is the reason why we're not winning. No,
he said, one person from top from play to play,

(52:17):
like and this play is this person, and that play
is that person.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
Like.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Okay, if you put it together, how many guys do
you have not doing what they're supposed to do. I
don't put that on all the Oh he got a
big concerts, Well maybe it would have to be seven.

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Speaker 3 (52:51):
By the way, I forgot to mention this to you
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Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, what is today?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
It's a football Friday? Is all right? Come on, Johns
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Speaker 2 (53:08):
Come that's so lazy.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
It's late.

Speaker 9 (53:11):
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Speaker 3 (53:23):
I'm gonna kiss your boy.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Come on, Mark, come on, come on, come on Friday,
Mark Shall Friday Football rock them.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
Off.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I can feel it is a football Friday. Here, two
pros and a cup of Joe.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Edition of In case Wadon's wins, we got our picks
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Speaker 2 (53:51):
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Speaker 3 (53:56):
Up next though, I mean maybe.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Some he's got more to worry about than just whether
or not they're gonna be on the field this upcoming
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Speaker 3 (54:04):
We'll get into that for you right here on FSR.

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Speaker 2 (55:30):
Your issues, Your issues are so real? Jonas Strov, Oh
my gosh, did I just hear you say that?

Speaker 3 (55:40):
By the way, it is two pros and come Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
No, it's two pros and one hook.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Dang god it.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Like wow, what you're just saying?

Speaker 8 (56:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Can we change the Can we change the name of
the show to to prosen Ho?

Speaker 8 (56:07):
Ho ho?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
What was a guy on Twitter that one time was
like more like two a holes and a cup of sang.

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for some team in the world of football. We'll get
into that for you in about twelve minutes from now,
but right now, models, it is time.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
What are you looking at? Ai Models?

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yes, bruh, Matt bores Man. I look, bro, I just
saw Ai Model. I understand why. It's very close. I mean,
would you rather have a fake ten or a real three?
You know what I mean? I think he's I think
he's spinning some knowledge, guys, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Oh bit? All right, right now it's time for this
number winner winning.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Here's all illnesses it really does. I'm going to win.
It's Quinn's wins, that's right.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Come on, yeah, yeah, we uh we We were back
at five hundred, folks. We did it five and three
last week, got us back and had some winners. Obviously
that Mac Championship between Western Michigan and the under that
one duke won that one.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
We had Georgia as well.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
UH number of winners UH losers though, man, we had
the under of the Big Ten Championship.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
But we're back to five hundred on the season as
we enter into Bowl season at fifty five fifty five
and three, so we don't have much to pick from
this week, although Jonas did me into having to do additional.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Picks that I wasn't really prepared for. But here we go.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Let's start off with one of the greatest rivalries in
all of sport, Army Navy, and this one traditionally is
one that you think it's gonna be a more low
rist scoring game, not so fast over under a set
at thirty eight and a half, that's very low.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
These are two teams that are very capable of scoring.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
In particular Navy that's now kind of I want to
call this like an era air raid passing attack. But
their quarterback play Corvath averages about twelve throws per game.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
That's four times.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
More than Army for you math majors out there, But
this is an offense that is a little bit more
balance of.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
What we're accustomed to seeing there at Navy.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Army.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
On the other hand, kill Helms their quarterback. He's leading
rush over thousand yards of this season. It's pretty typical.
But I think the over in this game, I think
both offenses should be able to score enough points to
hit the over. I don't see either team being conservative
in this one. In the rivalry game, and also ride
with Jeff Monkin an Army at plus six and a half,

(59:05):
I think they keep it within the number. He's been
known for being able to pull off some of these
upsets too over the years. So go Army beat Navy
straight up, outright. But I'll take plus six and a
half in the over of thirty eight and a half.
And then let's get to some of the games that
Jonas had.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
To bully me into.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
We got the LA Bowl and so Far Stadium down
there in Boise State, taken on Washington. Boise was the
Mountain West champs taking on a UDUB team that was
eight and four. You know, good season, maybe some higher aspirations,
led by their quarterback.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Demon Williams Junior.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
He's a phenomenal player, although a little concern with the
Michigan job opening a lot of ties back to Jedfish.
He was a quarterback coach off the coordinator there back
about ten years ago, and so maybe some concerns about
Fish going to take this job after this Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I wish I could tell you who the hell's playing
in it, but we never really know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Opt outs, you know, and of course there's some players
to get to warm ups or get into the game
then decide to opt out of the exhibition game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
So here's the play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
All right, you either don't play it, but if you
want to have fun, take the over fifty two and
a half. These teams can score some points, all right.
Boise a bit more balanced, but Washington they could throw
it all over the field. Jodah Coleman's a tremendous running back.
He could tote the rock as well. But that's assuming
that anyone actually plays in this game. But the over
of fifty two and a half is probably the best play.

(01:00:33):
And then finally the Cricket Bowl, South Carolina State versus
Prairie View. That's right, I can't even find a line
on this thing. So we're just gonna go. If you
can bet it on Calshie, which I did. I did
note that on Calshie South Carolina State it's a slight
favorite according to their odds, and it's really the passing
attack of South Carolina State taken on the more balanced

(01:00:54):
rush attack of Prairie View. William Atkins, the quarterback for
South Carolina State, good player, a good decision maker with
the football. His go to targets Jordan Smith has almost
one hundred and fifty yards on the year receiving, and
on the flip side of that, you've got previews. Quarterback
Cameron Peters also can can throw the football around a

(01:01:15):
little bit, but again more of a balance rushing attack
and offense. I like South Carolina State to win this thing.
I do think it's going to be close, but I'll
take South Carolina State on the money line, whatever wherever
you want to bet it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I will say, what's a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Little bit sad about this is looking at Calshie's the
volume for this game, only eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Have been bet on this game so far on Calshi, Well,
I think, I mean probably only about eight thousand dollars
in tickets that have been sold to this game too.
I mean, I can't imagine that does it is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Being played at Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta, So you've
got that going for you as well, noon Eastern time tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
So do the math on that. And do you think
it'll be any viewers in the West Coast tuning into
this one?

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
No, By the way, I don't even think it just
sounds racist to me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
I don't think there's going to be viewers on the
West Coast watching the LA Bowl either the bucked up
l A Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Between well, mind you, the LA Bull is I believe
one of the bulls going away. I think this might
be its last year to rap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Wasn't this the Jimmy Kimmel Ball at one point too?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It was also the Rob Gronkowski Bowl. I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I think the Arizona one was the Barstool Ball at
some point, but it's held a bunch of names, so
I think the problem with the Jimmy Kimmel Bull is
everyone had to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Wear a mask in that work.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
That well, last bet for the weekend in Quinn's wins Heisman,
Fernando Mendoza is like minus two thousand to win it.
He's your winner, he had the most moments. He's leading
the number one team, in the country statistically can make
an argument for it. Two call a bias, but it's not.
Jeremih Love's the best player in college football. We just
know how this award works. It goes to quarterbacks typically,

(01:02:51):
and in this case, it won't go to Jeremiah Love,
even though it probably should go to Jeremi Love. But
my bet is that if you can go ahead and
box it in, I will trifecta box. It'll most likely finish.
In my opinion, Mendoza won Diego Paviat two, Jeremiah Love
at three, Julian saying at four, I think that's how
it will probably finish. I'm a Heisman voter. That is

(01:03:14):
not how I voted, but I'm not going to reveal
my ballot. But minus two thousand, it's a sure thing
Fernando Mendoza will win the Heisman.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I'm certain that uh Love will have gotten one vote
to have won the Heisman. I am certain of that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I think I think there's three Heisman voters that work
here at Fox Sports Radio. I think Brady's won, Steve
Hartman's another, and I think Andy Furman's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
A Heisman voter. Oh nice, if I have that correct,
whyren't you a Heisman voter? Var, I don't get involved
with that. You Why would I be a Heisman voter.
I let guys like you handle that. He will thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I could just text you, though, Var, So I'll see
what you do with that information. Let me see what
you got here. Let me see what you got here.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Oh yeah, I'm not I don't know what to say. Yeah,
I either let me not touch that. Yeah, I digress.
Maybe I was wrong now one I cannot say for sure.
One thing of note here, The Army Navy games is
six now, so I did see I did see that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Army Okay, I like.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
That like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
I think it's gonna be a three four point game
like that. That's how I would see these two teams
between Army Navy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Yes tomorrow. I love the Army Navy game. So much fun?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Can we go?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I mean between like, I know, obviously LeVar, you're big
with the Vets. We've got a foundation works with vets too.
Like it would make sense if we could do a
Friday show and go. I talked to the a d
from from Army.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Why I know, Monk, I'll just reach out to Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
He'd godly host US, but I'm also an Anapolitan. I'm
a former Anapolitan. So if it plays out one year
where we go and it's in Annapolis, we'd have a
really good time. I've never where did they play when
they play Army?

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Is that in Philly? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
That's in Philly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Yeah the link, I mean, I think I think we
would be pretty good to go in Philly too. Anthony
Gargano and Lincoln Kennedy used to go every year. They
would go host a show from there. My guy aunt, Yeah,
so I got linked. That'd be a big link, big link.
You shake that guy's hand. It's a humbling moment. Lincoln
Kennedy is massive? Is massive again?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
What a good dude? Yeah, great dude. Man.

Speaker 10 (01:05:34):
Oh, I think we need to figure that out. We will,
We'll figure out. We'll figure out way to get into
the games. By the way, speaking of the games, you
guys heard about Trainer Games. You got to go check
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Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
It is too Pros and a Cup of Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with the up next some movement in the world
of football, one guy gone, another one arriving. We'll get
into that for you right here on FSR.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.