December 15, 2025 • 51 mins
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys discuss the return of Phillip Rivers who almost had a win for the Colts against Seattle. Plus, the guys chat with Pete Prisco on all things NFL, Heisman winner and loser with Fernando Mendoza and Diego Pavia, and more!!
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Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
Pete, good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's up guys?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
How are you h Can you dance?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Pete?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Can I dance?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Like, are you like a floor dancing, like dance with
your wife type of dancer? Can you like dance like
just singularly individually?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Can you dance? Okay? Do you ever?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I mean, look, if I'm at a bar or something
that I'm having a nightclub or something, amazing drinks on dances.
But other than that answer question, knowing you've got like
the seventies type dancing skills.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
I've seen Pete do enough for you like that maybe
disco era Okay, snap your fingers and move your hips, yes, yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Dances where you used to like spin them in everything
and do all that. Yeah, like John Travolta back and
turning fever. Could I do that? Sure? Cut?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Not good at I'm not good at it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, but you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Most people aren't good at They just think they are.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I felt like you would be a more unique, distinguished
dude if you would have said that you could dance,
like really well, like LeVar, I'm really good at it,
Like would dance you under a table, you know?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But sorry, I was only wishing for it though.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That's you dance? Can you dance, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm a two stepper. I'm a two stepper. I have rhythm.
I can't.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I have rhythm. I like to move to reggae music
more than anything else. Uh not not a ballroom type
of guy, don't don't want to What does that look
like when you reggae music? You'd have to be there.
It's like in the.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Whole time, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean, yeah, that's all he does. He sways, and
they think that's it's not swaying.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's it's like more of a like.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Kind of stuff I got going on, kind of sort
of kind of sort of because it could be Brady.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Brady, I see you saying, oh I don't want to dance.
That's kind of chilly to get up and shake a round.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think Brady is way too stiff to be a
good dance That's what.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I would think. I don't believe I break it out
what I need to right.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I don't know that what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I would have to see it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Here's the thing. If everybody's having a few, if everybody's
out having a few drinks and you're you're dancing, then
you think you're good anyway, and you probably I mean,
that's the reality of it. You're probably not. That's most people.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's what big crowds of people.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I guarantee you levarn. When you're dancing, you think
you're swaying to the reggae music. You look like an idiot,
but you think you're good.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Well, here's the reason why. Here's the reason why I'd
say that you're incorrect. Because usually when I was doing that,
I was behind this big tookest and I just kept
up with that. That was the rhythm of the tukns
is what gave me that. It was the Yeah, that
was the rhythm maker. Like I stayed behind the rhythm maker,
and as long as I could keep up with the
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rhythm of the rhythm maker, I knew I had rhythm.
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All right.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
At the transition football, I will ask you this general
question to kick things off. What was the biggest surprise
in the NFL this past weekend?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Biggest surprise that Philip Rivers was capable of throwing the football,
even it was only six yards per pass or whatever
it was. I mean at forty four years old, coming
off the scrap heap, at his age and not playing
in five years, that that to me was surprising. He
was better than I thought he would be. Brady, how
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long's it been to two plays?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Twenty fourteen, so it's been about eleven years.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Could you go throw a pass right now?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I could do I could do what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You could do what he did. I mean he didn't
throw the ball down the field, right, but still, I.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Mean he made the Reids.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
He made the Reids after being I mean, look, that
was surprising to me. It was better than I thought.
And the fact that they competed that game that was
a little surprising. But I mean I thought, I thought,
I don't think they're good, and I don't think he
was great, but that he was capable, which was which
surprised me. God, I didn't think he would be.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Well, do you think that the Dallas Cowboys is the
worst good team in the league? Like they seem like
they're actually a good team, Like they should be a
good team, Like they should be winning, but.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
They don't win.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Like do you get like or do you just look
at him like this is a team that can't win,
versus have any other you know, opinion towards him. But
I just come away from watching those games like this
is a really good team. I just don't understand how
they can finish games.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, but they've had so many injuries, and then the
defense was a mess to start the season. Then they
got those guys back, and they got Quinton william and
you know, got overshone back, and the defense started playing better,
and then the offensive line got banged up, and it
just seems to be they just seemed to be off
this year, and just when you think they're going to
make a little push back, they go And it's just
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I think everything is about getting ready for next year
with them right now, because getting Quentin Williams really solidifies
the defense for the long term. Getting guys back, you know,
Revel's gonna end up being a good corner and getting
guys back on their defense matter. The offensive line has
been banged up. So yeah, that's to me, that's their
a year away. I just don't I never really felt that.
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I thought before the season they could. I never really
felt that they got it going this year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
them on x at Prisco CBS. The Patrick Mahomes injury
obviously several key injuries around the NFL, but Patrick Mahomes
going down. What do you see as this being and
meaning towards the future of the Kansas City Chiefs organization.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, here's what we don't know. Is it a clean
care and how long is it going to be? I mean,
what is it now eight months now nine months that
you can get back to playing football? And when are
you playing Patrick Mahomes football again? That's the question. And
so how long how long do you think Brady will
be before he plays Patrick Mahomes football again.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We had this conversation earlier.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
You know, there was a thought I would say, I
don't know, it's like a decade ago, guys were trying
to come back sooner than later, like six seven months sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But I think that's.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Changed now because they've had a lot of issues with
hitting into years two and three after getting through that
initial year.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I think it's gonna be a much slower process. Ten
months probably, Yeah, I tell you.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
About I said November. I said October, November, right October,
byby October, September, late September, early October. So you're talking
about midway through that or not midway. But seven eight
games into the season. What does that mean for the Chiefs?
What does that mean for their going forward? Who plays quarterback?
In the interim? Do they go get a guy? What's
Andy Reid? What's your life? I mean, because you want
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to go through that. I think there's a lot of
questions now at play for the Chiefs. And and you know,
is he the same guy? I mean, that's that's the
big part of his game is moving around and creating
with his legs and making plays with his legs, and
so there's a lot of things that play for the Chiefs.
And it's so weird to think that they're not going
to be in the playoffs. And what could be even
weirder is if the Ravens don't make it. We know
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the Bengals have been eliminated. That means you go into
the playoffs with no Patrick Mahomes, no Lamar Jackson, and
no Joe Burrow, and that, to me is really telling
of how open the AFC playoffs are.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Going to be.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Pete, we were talking earlier about Joe Burrow, and obviously
you made the grand proclamation proclamation the night was drafted
that they win multiple super Bowls in ten years one
which one, let's let's say one, and then you tried
to like you wanted insurance because you're like, oh, they
got there, this should be enough. And that didn't happen.
So there's no one better to ask this question than you.
(09:02):
But they're eliminated from the playoffs the other year where
that won't be the case, and he seems just down, depressed, disappointed.
Are you concerned about like the long term him being
there Cincinnati? Are you're concerned about him just in general
everything he's been through, the injuries and all that that
goes around that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, they can't even wipe off the snow on
the seats.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Now, yeah, I mean, look, there's a lot to be
worried about there and his comments last week don't help.
And remember what happened with Carson Palmer. He wanted out
and they got him out. Uh yeah, I think he'd him.
And he was awful on Sunday. I mean, let's be real,
he didn't play very good. And so after coming a
couple of weeks ago actually lighting that defense up on
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the road, so there is concern there. Brady, You're not wrong.
He didn't have Higgins on Sunday. That matters, but again,
no points against that team after you lit him up
a couple of weeks ago. And why didn't they shovel expense?
Was that the reason they said for not shoveling off
the seats? I didn't you know, I know they and
do it, but come on, give me a break. And
(10:02):
I'm with you. Look, you want to take shots at
the Bengals organization. Today's that you can take shots at
the Bengals organization. And if Joe Burrow isn't happy there,
he's not going to quit, though, come on, give me
a break.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
All this talking about hold on, hold on, No one
says he's going to quit.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You No, I've seen people say that, Oh he might
walk away and retire. He doesn't like Andrew luck did.
I don't see that happening at all. But he isn't happy.
And you know what you should do. Go roll over
in your checkbook and you go go get a room
full of hundreds and dive in and then you'll be
happy again.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That sound advice, Pete, I mean what I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Mean, you're okay, You're not you you haven't been actually
a solution to the problem either, Joe. I mean, you're
not ever been on the field.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm with you. That's not a Bengals problem. That's like,
that's not their fault that he can't stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's been It's been a litany of things too. It
hasn't just been you know, one thing that keeps happening
over and over again. It's been a bunch of things.
And so if you want to look at the problem,
he's been part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
You can't deny that when you when you look at
the Kansas City Chiefs and where they currently are. I said,
it's a rap for them. I think we talked about
this before. I don't think you were in agreeance with
the fact that it's a rap. But I said it again.
I said it again, it's a rap. So all right,
(11:29):
go ahead, what what's your take on it? I mean
that's what devastating you say.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
You say, well, now, I will say this, the knee
injury impacts the rap talk what you said before the
knee injury a lot more than that it didn't you
know now that it's happened, of course that matters. But
I don't think it's a rap I don't. I really
don't bounce back. How long, Well, it depends on that knee.
I mean, is he back in week one or is
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is he back to If he's back to being Patrick
Mahomes in week one, they'll be back in it. If
he's not back to being Patrick Mahomes and by unless
it's week nine, then they're not going to be in it.
Then it'll be a year that they're back. So that
me matters and it changes the outcome of that team.
He is that team. So I agree with I agree
with you now that there's a chance it could be
over for a year or two.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But as long as you think it's over, yeah, you'll
never win.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I don't know that will never win a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I don't know that they won't win another super Bowl.
I think the days of them being the dominant, the
dominant franchise that they have been during their this tenure.
I think that's that's that's at an end. I think
that's over. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Well, the dominants have been so amazing, the fact that
they've gone to eight was eighth straight championship games and
won the Super Bowls and we've been to them. Yeah,
that dominance might be over. But them being relevant to
win it all again, that isn't over that that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I don't disagree with you there. I just think it
will be more singular, like they're having us singularly good year.
I don't look at it as they can still be
a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I mean, winning thirteen games every year. They might end
up winning eleven and getting hot and getting in and
winning it once or twice. But I don't see as
far as the being that team every year. Yeah, it's
probably over.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I mean ever since Mike Tyson, you know, I've just
never been able once. Once you knock a champ out,
you know, it's just it's just never the same, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But you know, the Patriots came back when they had
a little low remember that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I know we brought that up. Yeah, yeah, they did.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uh pte Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio
senior NFL calumnists for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ analyst.
What does the Micah Parsons injury mean for the Packers
super Bowl chances?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Well, I thought they were the Super Bowl team before
they acquired Michaeh Parsons. But two plays change the outlook
of a team on Sunday like none other. One was,
you got that lead against the Broncos on the road.
You're dominating a game, and Jordan loves those that shot
down the field to Christian Watson. It's intercepted by certain
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Watson gets hurt on the play. The offense changes two,
Parsons goes down, the flates the defense, and now the
Packers go into their final stretch here without Michael Parsons,
who's a game changer, Without Christian Watson, who's become a
game changer, and you right tackle went down Zach thom
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who's the best offensive lineman. That's a game changer. On defense.
You also lost to Evan Williams in the secondary. He's
been one of he's been their best safety this year.
I mean, how much more can a team take? And
that that's that's why we were sitting in there watching
these games on Sundays, and this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Is this is after by the way Tucker Craft, we
lost the eart.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You're pass catching tight end when when you how much
more and a team take And that's the reality of
it is the NFL has become a survival test more
than it's ever been. It's always been, but more than
ever now. And when you lose key players, you have
no I look, I don't think the Packers can really
navigate through all this. I don't and I picked them
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to win the Super Bowl. I just don't see them
winning it with the way they're constructed right now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Damn Well.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
On the flip side of that, the Bears, maybe I
don't want to say a pleasant surprise, or maybe it's
not surprising at all, but Ben Johnson's done a phenomenal
job that game, in particular, Pete, I know you watched
because you're rooting for shador. I know the stat line
looked bad, like the Jerry Judy intercept interception by Jalen Johnson,
like that whole.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was a great ball. I don't know what the
hell Judy was doing, but.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
I think he's improved some like he's gonna need to
keep improving. There's still some situational plays where you're like
pulling your hair out, but just kind of both sides
of that game, because the Bears look to be a
legit contender at least, and on the flip side, it
feels like maybe the Browns, if she plays well enough,
he could make a case for being in a competition
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next year for that quarterback spot.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah. I mean, look the Bears. The Bears dominated that game,
and rightfully so you thought they would. And that's a
good Bears team right now. And they play the Packers
again next week, I mean at home and could have
had a chance to beat him the last time. So
it's a good team and Ben Johnson has done a
great job with them. Caleb Williams are getting better. That
throw he made in the back of the end zone
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was unreal. When he was rolling to his right and
fired the shot into the back, that was unreal. But
as far as Door Sanders, some good, some bad, some
really bad. But I would I would bring him back,
but I would bring a quarterback in and I'll be
honest with you, I would find I would find the
quarter I don't think he's the long term answer, at
least in my book, but he is getting better, and
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he made right Jerry Judy catch the damn ball as
a great throw, but he also threw one into the
linebacker's stomach when he was standing right in front of him.
I mean, that's some good mist Brady. By the way,
he's playing behind an offensive line that is so bad
that it's hard to get it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's part of it too.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, but again there's so much time. Would I is
he better than Dylan Gabriel? Yes, I would say.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He is, yeah, And that's honestly, like just if you
just went on the game tape, Like people can say
whatever they want about his attributes and all that, but
I mean both their game tape was good. But the
thing that Shador has always had is to me, he's
an accurate passer and he keeps his eyes downfield like
it doesn't matter how much pressure he's.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Getting, and he'll take some sacks, but he'll always keeps.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But look, look, you can make the case about.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
A number of guys right now that that do that,
and I think think you have to hold on to
it longer if you're trying to wait for stuff to
develop down the field. But to your point, they don't
have the protection. I just I feel like he hasn't
been phased by the lack of protection, like he's still
looking to take those haymakers and those deep shots, and
that's a positive. That's a good thing in my mind.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah, I would agree with you, right, Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Pete thought some comments on the Heisman. I know you're
aware of that award and you probably watched any thoughts
on Mendoza winning it and maybe they fall out from Paba.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, I don't know what Bobby is talking about. I mean,
he's gonna have a nice career in Canada. I mean neither.
Oh well, he's going to play in Canada. He's not
gonna play. He's not going to be a starting quarterback
in the NFL, and I don't think he's gonna be
a backup. And I think he'd be a great Canadian
League quarterback, I really do. But look, the right guy
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won the award, and the way I look at it,
I think he deserved to win the award. I thought
his speech was really good, which was surprising since every
other interview he's done has been awkward as hell. But
his speech is good. And look, I think he's got
that factor about him in the moments from Mendoza when
you know, look at look at his red zone numbers
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there are unbelievable. And he shows up in the moments,
and that's what you want. As awkward as sometimes he
sounds when he's standing there talking after games, I.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wanted to get your thoughts on this as well to
speaking of college football. Kenny Dillingham emotional talking about the
magical place that is Tempe.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, I love this place. Like I said, my.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know what he's talking.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Come on, you don't don't be don't be rude. I mean,
the guy's in an emotional state. Listen to this guy.
Oh no, come on, man, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Lafar, did you say take a moment earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, take a moment. Yeah, you're right. It's a long moment.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is not a lone a pause. But this place is
just it's a special place to me.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean, Pete, that's inspiring.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You're right, that was was he crying because everybody's leaving?
You want me to cry? I mean, I mean it's
quarterback is bailing. I mean everybody that the receivers going
to the NFL, which he should, but a bunch of
other guys are now in the portal. I mean, if
it's such a great place, why aren't they staying there?
I don't get it. I mean, that's what bothers me.
(20:13):
It bothers me about college football, but it bothers me,
Sam Levitt. I think Brady, if I'm not mistaken, it
was the ninth highest paid NIL player in the whole country. Why.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Maybe there's a better suitor out there for him.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Explain that to me. What's a better suitor Someone.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Who's gonna pay them more than the ASU. Maybe they're
gonna pay him top three.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
My thing with all of that is, I don't even
know how accurate those numbers are, because you know, there's
really no accurate way. It's not like the NFL where
you can go see the contract they just sign. My
greater issue is like Southern Cal, for example, is announcing
players who are signing back to come back to Southern Cal.
(20:56):
Like we've now jumped the shark. We've officially gotten to
the point where college football is at a cringe spot
with having every year to announce guys coming back?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Are we for real right now?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Like this?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
They they need Congress And I have never called for
the government to intervene, but they need them to like
yesterday now because the powers that be don't want to
address this. It is the ugliest thing I think I've
ever seen is now teams have to announce players who
are signing back like it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
We used to say, hey, I've got eligibility left. I
want to try to come back for my senior year.
I did that, didn't make a big deal about it.
Just was like, yeah, I'm coming back. I want to
get my degree, try to win a national championship. It
is terrible what's happened to the sport, just in the
regards of how we handle I don't care if the
guys are getting paid.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm just standing.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Stop announcing it like it's some great thing that the
fan base needs to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
My god, I don't mind. Don't mind. Look, I don't
mind guys. I like guys paid. In fact, I want
them all to be paid. To pay them.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Sure, I'm with you announce it.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
But there's got to be some rules based on the payment.
And by that I mean if I get a kid
and I pay him eight million dollars or whatever to
play quarterback at my school, he's gonna have to stay
there for two years or three years. There's got to
be some something about unless the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You want to sign a contract, you know what, league.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
After, unless the coach, unless there should be a provision,
unless the coach jumps to another team for then everybody
should be able to leave if they want to. So, yeah,
it's just a it's a mess right now, Brady. The
whole thing. The playoff is a mess, the nil is
a mess, the transfer portal is a mess. The whole
thing is a mess. And it's painting a game that
we've all come to love. And I think it's ridiculous.
(22:41):
I think it's awful what's happening in college football. I
mean it makes you mad. It makes me mad. I
saw that, you know. Kenny Dillingham sent out of a
tweet the other day when Sam Levin announced that if
they announced that he's leaving, he said, great kid, loved
having him. He's going to be great and I and
I was mad. I sent out a tweet back saying,
see you. And by the way, you left a lot
of pockets too soon. I mean you get mad. I
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got mad, Yeah, he does so. By the way, last
year that though.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
He's kind of he's kind of a one and run.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
He's kind of a one and last year I.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Thought he would take the next step and he didn't,
So damn, don't let the door hit your ass on
the way out.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Pete, hey, Pete, right side, wrong result? Which game yesterday
did you bet on and made a pick on?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I had my picks. My picks are really really good.
I had a good day. I mean, like I released
my on our show on Tuesday. My best bet was
the Rams Lions game over and that went way over
and it was over almost at halftime, so that was
one of the best ones. The one that you I
was on the right side of was the Packers. They
had no business losing that game after after leading with
(23:55):
the ball until that throw to uh to watch and
that was the one that was the right. Well.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
LeVar had a couple of those that he was talking
about which I was on the wrong side of the
right bets.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah it happens.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Which one like Detroit, Detroit, Detroit and what what Buffalo,
New England, Buffalo, New England.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, and Detroit and then they let.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Them you know what they did. But New England they
had a chance to put their foot on their throats
and they let them they did, they let them back.
That's the worst in the AFC playoffs, that's the worst
thing because that's the team that nobody's going to want
to play because of that guy. That's period. I mean,
look in the AFC, there's gonna be a lot of
teams with feeling their way through. I mean, Jackson's never
this group hasn't been there that the Broncos haven't been there,
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but you know that guy has. The Patriots haven't been there.
That guy has, Nobody was going to want to play
them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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Pete Prisco, Senior NFL calumnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analysts and our good buddy Pete.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We appreciate it, man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Next week, all right, guys, Thanks Pete forks up from Pete.
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Speaker 6 (25:27):
You know a very hotly debated topic in the hot
sauce world is this year's MVP. I'm not talking players,
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Speaker 3 (25:37):
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Speaker 6 (25:38):
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why it's my MVP. It's because this sauce has shown
me what's really made of three hard hitting ingredients peppers, vinegar,
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And now that's MVP material to me. What makes the
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in the name, the value. Other hot sauces are so
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That's a score. And just take a look at its
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Speaker 3 (26:53):
That is why.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
The original Louisiana Hot Sauce is not just my MVP,
it's my.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
VP.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
If you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
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Speaker 3 (28:51):
The way tire buying should be Patty.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
First time, I gotta ask Patty bro just seeing the
way you was hop it off on the whole Christmas soul.
Huh when you were growing up, brou Yeah, were you
a Spaghettio's dude? Actually as a ravil Ravioli. Either way,
however you look at it, you clearly had the big me.
(29:14):
He had the big ass orange stain around his mouth.
One hundred percent. You are a ravioli. You are a
sauce around the face. He is really good man. What
do you guarantee you have a big show? Hey, let
me ask you. Do you have pictures of the ral
(29:37):
the ravioli beard, like the ravioli bring around your mouth? Sure,
I'm sure I could go ask my mom like for
all pictures percent she will gladly give them to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Just to be sure.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Here, bro, you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Probably have it at every level, at toddler.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Level, at at you know about lord, like there you
go that the there you go like if you eat
chicken farm, you have the like you get the orange
ring around your face one hundred percent your orange ring face, dude,
orange ring face, dude. Yes, when you did, when you
(30:17):
were singing the song and you was rocking back and forth,
I saw it so clearly.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It was so good. It was funny, Like get him
with a bag of Cheetos is a problem. It's a problem.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You let it hit your face, don't you They hit
your face back.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
True, sometimes happens, man, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm only you man.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It hits my face too.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
But you know, like like you said when he was
jumping in there and said, doesn't show on your face,
like it doesn't show on my face. But nonetheless it
has gotten there. You know, the ring was probably there,
just an invisible form, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Do chefboard he hits, Man, it's still good, chef boyard.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Thinking though, like we lived in an era where like
I would get off the bus, go home from school,
make myself that like in gosh, I'd have been an
elementary school, like like where my parents were come home
from work and everyone's working, and it was just like
that's what you did nowadays until the kids are old enough,
like much older than that. I don't know that I
(31:17):
feel comfortable to him coming home and like opening a can,
pouring it into a bowl, microwave and doing it without
creating an absolute mess? Is that more of a byproduct
of like what we are today's parents.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Everything successible on the phone is.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Pretty pretty, she's pretty self reliant.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Having an elementary school kid door dashing.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, they're having a cell phone in third grade.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I don't apparently that's the thing. I don't know what
that means.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Door dash, What does that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
You know, seems to be used a little bit out there.
Well you're using it to not have anyone ordering from
door dash.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So now on the subject of spaghettios, Yes, so what
Philip Rivers looked a little bigger than he did when
he last played me.
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Hey, hey the game, No were they almost want to
get some really? You know, I feel like this is
a good team in Seattle with a good defense. So
your first game out after five years and you look
like that, you come up a little short eyed.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I can't say that, you know. I came away feeling
like I could clown him. How sore is he going
to be?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
He's probably bro They probably put his whole body on
ice last night.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I want to just.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Make sure I'm very clear when I say this, because
this was not coming from me, but I had a
group text going on and I made the same comment
you just said about him being sore the next day,
and someone was like, you know, fat doesn't it's not
as sore, asn't bruised like muscle does, like muscle gets.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Sore fatten.
Speaker 12 (33:00):
And I was like, damn all right. I was like boys.
But the more I thought about that, the bore, I
was like, he's not wrong, Like he's gonna be sore,
but he's he put on some patting.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You know, he's able to absorb so of that, right, Yeah,
but that's from like maybe getting hit, like the movements,
the drop backs, the throws, the yeah, even just getting
through warm ups. I'm sure for him he was probably
he was probably sore out.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We're working on the back of his shoulder on the sideline.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
At one point, probably finished warm ups and was like, okay,
well you mean we got four quarters to go. Huh,
let's see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Here was Philip Rivers, forty four years old, making his
first start in five years, throwing a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Talking afterwards, I think.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Maybe, uh, you know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
It will I don't know, inspire or teach to you know,
not to run or be scared of what may or
may not happen, you know, hopefully, you know, certainly I'm
think of my sons and those ball players you know
that I've been in charge of at the school. Uh
that they'll say, like, crap, coach, one's scared, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's like shooting sometimes you uh, there is doubt and
it's real and you uh again you can, you can.
The guaranteed safe.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
Bet is to is to go home or or to
not go for it, and the other one.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is Shoott's see what happens.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Uh you know, And so uh yeah, I hope that
in that sense that it can it can be a
positive to to some young boys, you know, or young people.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Not as we boys. But but again that's not the motivation. Yeah,
you know, I'm I'm happy with.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
He's out of present his interview.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
God, how much how much as man? Hey, he extended
that insurance too for like five years, which a lot
of people how about that have ten kids or something.
Maybe that was the motivation, serious win, extending that insurance,
baby go back and getting that line of duty.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'll throw this out there.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Watching the beginning of that game, I kept thinking to myself,
Riley Leonard must have done something or not shown something
to have put the team in the position where they
felt like they needed to do this, because there was
nothing that Philip did that I thought Roley Leonard couldn't do,
(35:37):
and quite frankly, Roley Leonard can move a lot better.
So it adds another element to, you know, the rushing attack.
It's not just Jonathan Taylor have to worry about. It's
Leonard taking off too, even on pass plays. And he
had a rushing touchdown two weeks ago. So Philip Rivers
still obviously had the command of the operation get him
(35:57):
in the right play. You know, at times he's throwing
the football, there's just there's no zip on the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But it was in the right spot. I mean early on.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
A couple of those throws of Tyler Warren, like Taler
Warren could have made those catches. I mean he's made
him before, so I don't know. I mean again, at
the end of the day, their defense kept them in
that game, and they scored enough to make it close.
But I just I don't know what happened where you
didn't feel like comfortable or confident enough as a coach
(36:28):
putting in a game plan that Riley Leonard could execute,
who at this moment like has a better arm, is
a better athlete, and you know you're out there, you
know you taking some of the decision making maybe off
his plate, but I don't know, man. That's it was
as awesome as it was to see him out there
five years after the fact. There was an element of
(36:50):
reality where you're like, man, how's this gonna go? Moving forward?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
The last drive, he rolled to his right to make
a throw and he looked like a mummy. He couldn't
he couldn't move, And I'm like, oh no, man, like
he he couldn't move. She's going no, no, And I
(37:16):
wanted him to win so.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Man, so bad.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
When when when Blake group hit hit the fuel goals like,
oh okay, this this could happen. It's legitimately happened, and
fifty second forty seconds later the shocks came right back down.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
But by the way, Sam Darnold hasn't uh kind of
looks a little bit like last.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Year, otelingm. He ain't got that stamina, big game. Let
him do a win, man. He needs some hot sauce
is what he needs, and so does so does Philip Rivers.
They Philip, you want to get that ham standing together
and and and penetrate that fat that that he was
talking about on his uh his group text. Throw some
(38:00):
original Louisiana hot sauce on that thing. It's just three
simple ingredients. Put it on your plate. If you're not
putting it on your your your wounded or sore body parts,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It can make every day until a tailgate day.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
So make sure you check out the original Louisiana Hot
sauce and add a little bit of game day to
every day by using that Louisiana Hot. Bye you soon.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Coming up next here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. It's another edition of in case you missed
it right here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. We
are going to have an FSRIR coming up here in
about fifteen minutes from now. A reminder though, that every
goal starts with an assist on and off the field.
That's why Haleyon and US Soccer are lot launching for
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(39:04):
helped people achieve their goals with iconic brands like Censin, I, Toms,
Lil Taran, Advil, and Centrum. To learn more, go to
Haley on assist dot com. Congratulations to Fernando Mendoza who
won the Heisman on Saturday. Not a big surprise for anybody.
That was also part of a Quinn's wins. Correct, that's right,
(39:24):
that's right. Shot in the dark. But hey, someone's got
to make those bets, and we made it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
We made it, by the way.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Not a bad weekend for Quinn's wins. Thank you to
throw out of State for coming back. Fine way to
win that one couldn't get enough points out of boys.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
To do anything.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, my gosh, yeah, so would you do three
and two?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Three and two over five for the year during bowl
season when you don't know who's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
That's not bad. It's like NFL pre.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Army covered for me.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Unfortunate for Jeff Manka and the Boys though maybe pulls
out the win.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I also thought it'd be higher scoring.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Gosh, I knew they were going to play hard, man. Dang,
they got hard.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
It doesn't well playing hard couldn't necessarily points, but it
could possibly mean not scoring points. Q.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I know you're off playing hard. Yes, that's a possibility.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
It could possibly potentially to less less points like yeah,
some of those hits were like to me, was what's football?
There was football being played. You don't hear guys hit anymore?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You don't hear the collisions anymore. You did in that game,
they were colliding like I loved it. Army had it,
they had it.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
They gave it away. So they let them off the hook.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Man.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
They knew who they were and they let them get it.
So but it was a hell of a game to watch. Man,
what a great scene.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I've got to get there. I don't. We've got to
get there. I don't get.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You should we should? Gosh, seems like it can be done.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Most I think. And I are in the travel There
are you in the tra Why not?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Why wouldn't that be take out Annapolis?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Say, you don't know why.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Am I a huge fan of travel?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I mean, I'm good just staying home. But if it's
for an event like that, a sort of a once
in a lifetime opportunity to go see that game and
everything that comes along with it and what it means, Like, Yeah,
that would be awesome, and it's happened here. We've we've
had a show go out there before from Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Is that right? Yeah? Where did I go?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Anthony Gargana, Lincoln Kennedy went we were talking about So, yeah,
I would love to see it because the thing I
love about that game it's it's just football. Like there's
no like, there's not a bunch of you know, grab
ass and Shenanigans.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's just for grab ass.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Like it's just oh no, I ain't grab ass.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
What what other grab ass is going on?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It's like, uh like there's there's not there's not people
wondering whether or not Day's got a nipple piercing like
stuff like that. You're just watching the game and going everybody,
just keep that stuff in the holster and and just
focus on what this game means and and the people
that are putting their life on the line.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did did I see the Army stole the goat before
the game this week?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Did they?
Speaker 7 (42:17):
I thought I remember seeing them bring the goat into
some big assembly hall and the and obviously the cad
that's one nuts.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
You have to look it up to verify why not
just get why not just get a goat that looks
like the one that they.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Have and do it?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I mean, because what's the fun in that?
Speaker 6 (42:32):
I mean the fact that you feel the but that
the fact that you feel the sensations of we got
the goat, we got the Napolis goat.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know, we got the.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Well, yeah, that's what we're saying that, I mean, but
without taking the real one, so that there's no repercussions
or consequences to that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You know, Oh, I think you want if there's no risks,
there's no reward.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh okay, if you're gonna do it, do it right?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, oh all right? Speaking of doing it right.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
For Mendoza, your Heisman Trophy winner, here was a little
bit of his fantastic speech from Saturday night.
Speaker 9 (43:10):
I want every kid out there who feels overlooked, under
underestimated to know.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I was you.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I was that kid too. I was in your shoes.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
The truth is you don't need the most stars, hype
or rankings. You just need discipline, heart, and people who.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Believe in you.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
And you need to believe in your own abilities.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
I hope this moment shows you that chasing your dreams
are worth it, no matter how big or impossible they seem.
God bless Gohoders, Thank you guys all.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
There is the Cuban force. Gump with this on Fox
Sports right.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
A couple of things we'll throw out there. Fourth Heisman
winner in a row. I believe that it is a
transfer m So do with that what you will. I personally,
i'd love to speech. There's a lot of people who
are knocking at stats, which here's the only thing I'd
say about that. And this is where there's a lot
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of ignorance out there on social.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Media and the internet.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
If you look at the stats for all the quarterbacks,
they were down in comparison to what it's been in
the past.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
And one of.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
The reasons is the actual pace of play. So since
they've started doing the coach to quarterback, teams are running
a lot slower because it takes longer to get the
plays in, longer to call them, longer to run them.
And there's also a thought for some of those teams
in particular. I know this for a fact with the
highest State. I know this for a fact with Notre Dame,
is the season is in most cases they're looking.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
At it being much longer than just.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Their normal twelve schedule games. If you're part of a conference,
at least thirteen for their conference championship and the potential
of having to go play, you know, three or four
games of the playoff. So there's a lot of coaches
too who are trying to limit snaps and opportunities. And
if you looked at all the stats of these players,
they weren't as much as what they'd been in the
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past because of a number of those things. And then
like the Jeremiah Love they're comparing Johnny Manziel's rushing stats,
is it's like, well, he was also splitting carries Nimrod,
Like he's got another running back that ended up being
a second team All American this year.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So I just I do.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Hate some of the conversations that try to knock down
these young men for what they are on the field now.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
What they are off the field.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
There's an element of like, and I'm sure you know
everyone's gonna make fun of how Francisco Mendoza sounds sounds dorky,
I'm sure some would say. And what's odd to me
is like, I don't care how it sounds like. His
matchicine is incredible. He's got a passion for the game.
He stepped up and time and time again made plays
in critical moments to lead his team to be the
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number one team in the country, undefeated, winning the Big
Ten Championship with the number one overall seed in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Like, you can't ask him to do much more. And so,
you know, we can have.
Speaker 7 (46:05):
A talk about what he's going to be as a
draft prospect and all that stuff, but I do wish
we'd just appreciate him for what he is and what
he brought to the game. And on the flip side,
with Diego Pavia, there's also that element too where I
feel like what he did on the field was incredible,
uplifting Vanderbilt. But I think what he probably doesn't realize
is he has done as much damage to himself. Who
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is going to be a player that's looked at, at least
as an NFL draft prospect, is probably a mid to
late round pick in the first place, just because of
his height, and if you really turn on the tape
and watch him, he struggles to play from the pocket
and that's just something that you have to be able
to do to be successful in the NFL. But the
stuff he put out there on social media, the way
(46:50):
he's partying afterwards with the f Indiana, the whole thing,
the whole thing. And then he puts out a statement
that you could tell someone with your agency, you can
tell someone had put out from Vanderbilt that it's not
his words.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, the f all the voters family for life stuff
on social media that was there, and then what we
say at a party. He was saying some stuff at
the club afterwards. It's like, like I know.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
That he's flicking off the camera.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
They bring out a sona says f Indiana, which you
don't think someone with his crew is like, let's let's
do this. He's either got a terrible group around him
and maybe it's his family too with his brother getting
arrested and get an awful advice, or he just doesn't
care and both are bad, especially if he wants to
play in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I mean, I know that he's that Manziel's kind of
a mentor to him, but like I don't know if
this is he wants so desperately to be that guy,
but he just like.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
He comes off Manziel mentor him to be the way
Manziel was seems like Manziel has done a lot of
growing up since those days. So if he's if he
truly is a role model to him, I mean, I
don't think that that would be the advice that he
would give him is to screw yourself with hope.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
The part of the parts he just wants to bring
him down with him. You know, maybe he needs more
friends there.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The part the part I would the part I kind
of struggle with is and Mendoza mentioned it, you know,
during his speech and he's talking about all the legends
that are behind him on the stage, like basically the
who's who of college football, the guys that won that award,
and those guys go back there and they're so proud
to be in that room. Mendoza handled it perfectly and brilliantly.
(48:41):
And then you've got this other guy who's out there
doing what It's like, do you not recognize the company
you keep? Like the fact that Brady you were, you
were a Heisman finalist?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
What was there?
Speaker 7 (48:52):
I had better stats than Troy Smith, Like you could
have made the Diego Pavia line. I mean, Notre Dame
had the worst season the history of noterating football after
I left, Like you could have made that same argument
people were making won the Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Award, which is the other Player of the Year award, right,
So you could have made that argument. I could have
been salty about it. The reality is is what it is.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
But were are you looking around that room going, do
you know how cool this is to be there?
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Like just just to honestly, I there's two thoughts that
went through my head with the whole thing. I hate
individual attention. So the first thought I always had was like,
it's a it's a team award, like my my thing was.
And I know obviously paid now they've got money and
the Heisman trust. You know, it wasn't willing to then.
But you know, these all these teams and players can
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like fly their guys out with them. I wish I
could have brought my entire line. I wish I could
have brought Samarge. I wish I could have brought like
a bunch of guys you know with me, Raymond McKnight,
Maurice stovall guys who.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Were all a part of that.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Because it's it's not an individual it is an individual award,
but it's not like every single guy that's a part
of that.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I wish could have been there. That's the first thing.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
The second is, you know, I wanted other people like
my parents to experience it, even though like they I
remember they interviewed my parents and I've never seen my dad,
I've never seen Chopper looked more like shell shocked them,
not wanting to be in that position ever, Like he
hates being around crowds, hates being around people in public,
and now they're going to put a light on them
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and try to interview him like it was. It was
one of his more awkward moments. But I know we're
up against them on the break. I would just say
this to me, it was always a moment for like
everyone who helped you get there, And I thought Fernando
Mendoza did a good job of describing that for a
lot of the people out there. And then you know,
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the football season. He is our smooth operator. He is
(01:18):
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analyst, and you can get him on X if
you want some of that smoke at Prisco CBS.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Pete, good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's up guys?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
How are you h Can you dance?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Pete?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Can I dance?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Like, are you like a floor dancing, like dance with
your wife type of dancer? Can you like dance like
just singularly individually?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Can you dance? Okay? Do you ever?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I mean, look, if I'm at a bar or something
that I'm having a nightclub or something, amazing drinks on dances.
But other than that answer question, knowing you've got like
the seventies type dancing skills.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
I've seen Pete do enough for you like that maybe
disco era Okay, snap your fingers and move your hips, yes, yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Dances where you used to like spin them in everything
and do all that. Yeah, like John Travolta back and
turning fever. Could I do that? Sure? Cut?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Not good at I'm not good at it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, but you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Most people aren't good at They just think they are.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I felt like you would be a more unique, distinguished
dude if you would have said that you could dance,
like really well, like LeVar, I'm really good at it,
Like would dance you under a table, you know?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But sorry, I was only wishing for it though.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That's you dance? Can you dance, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm a two stepper. I'm a two stepper. I have rhythm.
I can't.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I have rhythm. I like to move to reggae music
more than anything else. Uh not not a ballroom type
of guy, don't don't want to What does that look
like when you reggae music? You'd have to be there.
It's like in the.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Whole time, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean, yeah, that's all he does. He sways, and
they think that's it's not swaying.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's it's like more of a like.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Kind of stuff I got going on, kind of sort
of kind of sort of because it could be Brady.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Brady, I see you saying, oh I don't want to dance.
That's kind of chilly to get up and shake a round.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think Brady is way too stiff to be a
good dance That's what.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I would think. I don't believe I break it out
what I need to right.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I don't know that what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I would have to see it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Here's the thing. If everybody's having a few, if everybody's
out having a few drinks and you're you're dancing, then
you think you're good anyway, and you probably I mean,
that's the reality of it. You're probably not. That's most people.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's what big crowds of people.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I guarantee you levarn. When you're dancing, you think
you're swaying to the reggae music. You look like an idiot,
but you think you're good.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Well, here's the reason why. Here's the reason why I'd
say that you're incorrect. Because usually when I was doing that,
I was behind this big tookest and I just kept
up with that. That was the rhythm of the tukns
is what gave me that. It was the Yeah, that
was the rhythm maker. Like I stayed behind the rhythm maker,
and as long as I could keep up with the
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rhythm of the rhythm maker, I knew I had rhythm.
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All right.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
At the transition football, I will ask you this general
question to kick things off. What was the biggest surprise
in the NFL this past weekend?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Biggest surprise that Philip Rivers was capable of throwing the football,
even it was only six yards per pass or whatever
it was. I mean at forty four years old, coming
off the scrap heap, at his age and not playing
in five years, that that to me was surprising. He
was better than I thought he would be. Brady, how
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long's it been to two plays?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Twenty fourteen, so it's been about eleven years.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Could you go throw a pass right now?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I could do I could do what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You could do what he did. I mean he didn't
throw the ball down the field, right, but still, I.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Mean he made the Reids.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
He made the Reids after being I mean, look, that
was surprising to me. It was better than I thought.
And the fact that they competed that game that was
a little surprising. But I mean I thought, I thought,
I don't think they're good, and I don't think he
was great, but that he was capable, which was which
surprised me. God, I didn't think he would be.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Well, do you think that the Dallas Cowboys is the
worst good team in the league? Like they seem like
they're actually a good team, Like they should be a
good team, Like they should be winning, but.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
They don't win.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Like do you get like or do you just look
at him like this is a team that can't win,
versus have any other you know, opinion towards him. But
I just come away from watching those games like this
is a really good team. I just don't understand how
they can finish games.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, but they've had so many injuries, and then the
defense was a mess to start the season. Then they
got those guys back, and they got Quinton william and
you know, got overshone back, and the defense started playing better,
and then the offensive line got banged up, and it
just seems to be they just seemed to be off
this year, and just when you think they're going to
make a little push back, they go And it's just
(06:14):
I think everything is about getting ready for next year
with them right now, because getting Quentin Williams really solidifies
the defense for the long term. Getting guys back, you know,
Revel's gonna end up being a good corner and getting
guys back on their defense matter. The offensive line has
been banged up. So yeah, that's to me, that's their
a year away. I just don't I never really felt that.
(06:35):
I thought before the season they could. I never really
felt that they got it going this year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
them on x at Prisco CBS. The Patrick Mahomes injury
obviously several key injuries around the NFL, but Patrick Mahomes
going down. What do you see as this being and
meaning towards the future of the Kansas City Chiefs organization.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, here's what we don't know. Is it a clean
care and how long is it going to be? I mean,
what is it now eight months now nine months that
you can get back to playing football? And when are
you playing Patrick Mahomes football again? That's the question. And
so how long how long do you think Brady will
be before he plays Patrick Mahomes football again.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We had this conversation earlier.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
You know, there was a thought I would say, I
don't know, it's like a decade ago, guys were trying
to come back sooner than later, like six seven months sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But I think that's.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Changed now because they've had a lot of issues with
hitting into years two and three after getting through that
initial year.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I think it's gonna be a much slower process. Ten
months probably, Yeah, I tell you.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
About I said November. I said October, November, right October,
byby October, September, late September, early October. So you're talking
about midway through that or not midway. But seven eight
games into the season. What does that mean for the Chiefs?
What does that mean for their going forward? Who plays quarterback?
In the interim? Do they go get a guy? What's
Andy Reid? What's your life? I mean, because you want
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to go through that. I think there's a lot of
questions now at play for the Chiefs. And and you know,
is he the same guy? I mean, that's that's the
big part of his game is moving around and creating
with his legs and making plays with his legs, and
so there's a lot of things that play for the Chiefs.
And it's so weird to think that they're not going
to be in the playoffs. And what could be even
weirder is if the Ravens don't make it. We know
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the Bengals have been eliminated. That means you go into
the playoffs with no Patrick Mahomes, no Lamar Jackson, and
no Joe Burrow, and that, to me is really telling
of how open the AFC playoffs are.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Going to be.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Pete, we were talking earlier about Joe Burrow, and obviously
you made the grand proclamation proclamation the night was drafted
that they win multiple super Bowls in ten years one
which one, let's let's say one, and then you tried
to like you wanted insurance because you're like, oh, they
got there, this should be enough. And that didn't happen.
So there's no one better to ask this question than you.
(09:02):
But they're eliminated from the playoffs the other year where
that won't be the case, and he seems just down, depressed, disappointed.
Are you concerned about like the long term him being
there Cincinnati? Are you're concerned about him just in general
everything he's been through, the injuries and all that that
goes around that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, they can't even wipe off the snow on
the seats.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Now, yeah, I mean, look, there's a lot to be
worried about there and his comments last week don't help.
And remember what happened with Carson Palmer. He wanted out
and they got him out. Uh yeah, I think he'd him.
And he was awful on Sunday. I mean, let's be real,
he didn't play very good. And so after coming a
couple of weeks ago actually lighting that defense up on
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the road, so there is concern there. Brady, You're not wrong.
He didn't have Higgins on Sunday. That matters, but again,
no points against that team after you lit him up
a couple of weeks ago. And why didn't they shovel expense?
Was that the reason they said for not shoveling off
the seats? I didn't you know, I know they and
do it, but come on, give me a break. And
(10:02):
I'm with you. Look, you want to take shots at
the Bengals organization. Today's that you can take shots at
the Bengals organization. And if Joe Burrow isn't happy there,
he's not going to quit, though, come on, give me
a break.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
All this talking about hold on, hold on, No one
says he's going to quit.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You No, I've seen people say that, Oh he might
walk away and retire. He doesn't like Andrew luck did.
I don't see that happening at all. But he isn't happy.
And you know what you should do. Go roll over
in your checkbook and you go go get a room
full of hundreds and dive in and then you'll be
happy again.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That sound advice, Pete, I mean what I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Mean, you're okay, You're not you you haven't been actually
a solution to the problem either, Joe. I mean, you're
not ever been on the field.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm with you. That's not a Bengals problem. That's like,
that's not their fault that he can't stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's been It's been a litany of things too. It
hasn't just been you know, one thing that keeps happening
over and over again. It's been a bunch of things.
And so if you want to look at the problem,
he's been part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
You can't deny that when you when you look at
the Kansas City Chiefs and where they currently are. I said,
it's a rap for them. I think we talked about
this before. I don't think you were in agreeance with
the fact that it's a rap. But I said it again.
I said it again, it's a rap. So all right,
(11:29):
go ahead, what what's your take on it? I mean
that's what devastating you say.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
You say, well, now, I will say this, the knee
injury impacts the rap talk what you said before the
knee injury a lot more than that it didn't you
know now that it's happened, of course that matters. But
I don't think it's a rap I don't. I really
don't bounce back. How long, Well, it depends on that knee.
I mean, is he back in week one or is
(11:54):
is he back to If he's back to being Patrick
Mahomes in week one, they'll be back in it. If
he's not back to being Patrick Mahomes and by unless
it's week nine, then they're not going to be in it.
Then it'll be a year that they're back. So that
me matters and it changes the outcome of that team.
He is that team. So I agree with I agree
with you now that there's a chance it could be
over for a year or two.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But as long as you think it's over, yeah, you'll
never win.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I don't know that will never win a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I don't know that they won't win another super Bowl.
I think the days of them being the dominant, the
dominant franchise that they have been during their this tenure.
I think that's that's that's at an end. I think
that's over. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Well, the dominants have been so amazing, the fact that
they've gone to eight was eighth straight championship games and
won the Super Bowls and we've been to them. Yeah,
that dominance might be over. But them being relevant to
win it all again, that isn't over that that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I don't disagree with you there. I just think it
will be more singular, like they're having us singularly good year.
I don't look at it as they can still be
a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I mean, winning thirteen games every year. They might end
up winning eleven and getting hot and getting in and
winning it once or twice. But I don't see as
far as the being that team every year. Yeah, it's
probably over.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I mean ever since Mike Tyson, you know, I've just
never been able once. Once you knock a champ out,
you know, it's just it's just never the same, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But you know, the Patriots came back when they had
a little low remember that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I know we brought that up. Yeah, yeah, they did.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uh pte Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio
senior NFL calumnists for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ analyst.
What does the Micah Parsons injury mean for the Packers
super Bowl chances?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Well, I thought they were the Super Bowl team before
they acquired Michaeh Parsons. But two plays change the outlook
of a team on Sunday like none other. One was,
you got that lead against the Broncos on the road.
You're dominating a game, and Jordan loves those that shot
down the field to Christian Watson. It's intercepted by certain
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Watson gets hurt on the play. The offense changes two,
Parsons goes down, the flates the defense, and now the
Packers go into their final stretch here without Michael Parsons,
who's a game changer, Without Christian Watson, who's become a
game changer, and you right tackle went down Zach thom
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who's the best offensive lineman. That's a game changer. On defense.
You also lost to Evan Williams in the secondary. He's
been one of he's been their best safety this year.
I mean, how much more can a team take? And
that that's that's why we were sitting in there watching
these games on Sundays, and this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Is this is after by the way Tucker Craft, we
lost the eart.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You're pass catching tight end when when you how much
more and a team take And that's the reality of
it is the NFL has become a survival test more
than it's ever been. It's always been, but more than
ever now. And when you lose key players, you have
no I look, I don't think the Packers can really
navigate through all this. I don't and I picked them
(15:08):
to win the Super Bowl. I just don't see them
winning it with the way they're constructed right now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Damn Well.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
On the flip side of that, the Bears, maybe I
don't want to say a pleasant surprise, or maybe it's
not surprising at all, but Ben Johnson's done a phenomenal
job that game, in particular, Pete, I know you watched
because you're rooting for shador. I know the stat line
looked bad, like the Jerry Judy intercept interception by Jalen Johnson,
like that whole.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was a great ball. I don't know what the
hell Judy was doing, but.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
I think he's improved some like he's gonna need to
keep improving. There's still some situational plays where you're like
pulling your hair out, but just kind of both sides
of that game, because the Bears look to be a
legit contender at least, and on the flip side, it
feels like maybe the Browns, if she plays well enough,
he could make a case for being in a competition
(16:01):
next year for that quarterback spot.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah. I mean, look the Bears. The Bears dominated that game,
and rightfully so you thought they would. And that's a
good Bears team right now. And they play the Packers
again next week, I mean at home and could have
had a chance to beat him the last time. So
it's a good team and Ben Johnson has done a
great job with them. Caleb Williams are getting better. That
throw he made in the back of the end zone
(16:24):
was unreal. When he was rolling to his right and
fired the shot into the back, that was unreal. But
as far as Door Sanders, some good, some bad, some
really bad. But I would I would bring him back,
but I would bring a quarterback in and I'll be
honest with you, I would find I would find the
quarter I don't think he's the long term answer, at
least in my book, but he is getting better, and
(16:45):
he made right Jerry Judy catch the damn ball as
a great throw, but he also threw one into the
linebacker's stomach when he was standing right in front of him.
I mean, that's some good mist Brady. By the way,
he's playing behind an offensive line that is so bad
that it's hard to get it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's part of it too.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, but again there's so much time. Would I is
he better than Dylan Gabriel? Yes, I would say.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He is, yeah, And that's honestly, like just if you
just went on the game tape, Like people can say
whatever they want about his attributes and all that, but
I mean both their game tape was good. But the
thing that Shador has always had is to me, he's
an accurate passer and he keeps his eyes downfield like
it doesn't matter how much pressure he's.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Getting, and he'll take some sacks, but he'll always keeps.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But look, look, you can make the case about.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
A number of guys right now that that do that,
and I think think you have to hold on to
it longer if you're trying to wait for stuff to
develop down the field. But to your point, they don't
have the protection. I just I feel like he hasn't
been phased by the lack of protection, like he's still
looking to take those haymakers and those deep shots, and
that's a positive. That's a good thing in my mind.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah, I would agree with you, right, Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Pete thought some comments on the Heisman. I know you're
aware of that award and you probably watched any thoughts
on Mendoza winning it and maybe they fall out from Paba.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, I don't know what Bobby is talking about. I mean,
he's gonna have a nice career in Canada. I mean neither.
Oh well, he's going to play in Canada. He's not
gonna play. He's not going to be a starting quarterback
in the NFL, and I don't think he's gonna be
a backup. And I think he'd be a great Canadian
League quarterback, I really do. But look, the right guy
(18:30):
won the award, and the way I look at it,
I think he deserved to win the award. I thought
his speech was really good, which was surprising since every
other interview he's done has been awkward as hell. But
his speech is good. And look, I think he's got
that factor about him in the moments from Mendoza when
you know, look at look at his red zone numbers
(18:50):
there are unbelievable. And he shows up in the moments,
and that's what you want. As awkward as sometimes he
sounds when he's standing there talking after games, I.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wanted to get your thoughts on this as well to
speaking of college football. Kenny Dillingham emotional talking about the
magical place that is Tempe.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, I love this place. Like I said, my.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know what he's talking.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Come on, you don't don't be don't be rude. I mean,
the guy's in an emotional state. Listen to this guy.
Oh no, come on, man, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Lafar, did you say take a moment earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, take a moment. Yeah, you're right. It's a long moment.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is not a lone a pause. But this place is
just it's a special place to me.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean, Pete, that's inspiring.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You're right, that was was he crying because everybody's leaving?
You want me to cry? I mean, I mean it's
quarterback is bailing. I mean everybody that the receivers going
to the NFL, which he should, but a bunch of
other guys are now in the portal. I mean, if
it's such a great place, why aren't they staying there?
I don't get it. I mean, that's what bothers me.
(20:13):
It bothers me about college football, but it bothers me,
Sam Levitt. I think Brady, if I'm not mistaken, it
was the ninth highest paid NIL player in the whole country. Why.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Maybe there's a better suitor out there for him.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Explain that to me. What's a better suitor Someone.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Who's gonna pay them more than the ASU. Maybe they're
gonna pay him top three.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
My thing with all of that is, I don't even
know how accurate those numbers are, because you know, there's
really no accurate way. It's not like the NFL where
you can go see the contract they just sign. My
greater issue is like Southern Cal, for example, is announcing
players who are signing back to come back to Southern Cal.
(20:56):
Like we've now jumped the shark. We've officially gotten to
the point where college football is at a cringe spot
with having every year to announce guys coming back?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Are we for real right now?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Like this?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
They they need Congress And I have never called for
the government to intervene, but they need them to like
yesterday now because the powers that be don't want to
address this. It is the ugliest thing I think I've
ever seen is now teams have to announce players who
are signing back like it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
We used to say, hey, I've got eligibility left. I
want to try to come back for my senior year.
I did that, didn't make a big deal about it.
Just was like, yeah, I'm coming back. I want to
get my degree, try to win a national championship. It
is terrible what's happened to the sport, just in the
regards of how we handle I don't care if the
guys are getting paid.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm just standing.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Stop announcing it like it's some great thing that the
fan base needs to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
My god, I don't mind. Don't mind. Look, I don't
mind guys. I like guys paid. In fact, I want
them all to be paid. To pay them.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Sure, I'm with you announce it.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
But there's got to be some rules based on the payment.
And by that I mean if I get a kid
and I pay him eight million dollars or whatever to
play quarterback at my school, he's gonna have to stay
there for two years or three years. There's got to
be some something about unless the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You want to sign a contract, you know what, league.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
After, unless the coach, unless there should be a provision,
unless the coach jumps to another team for then everybody
should be able to leave if they want to. So, yeah,
it's just a it's a mess right now, Brady. The
whole thing. The playoff is a mess, the nil is
a mess, the transfer portal is a mess. The whole
thing is a mess. And it's painting a game that
we've all come to love. And I think it's ridiculous.
(22:41):
I think it's awful what's happening in college football. I
mean it makes you mad. It makes me mad. I
saw that, you know. Kenny Dillingham sent out of a
tweet the other day when Sam Levin announced that if
they announced that he's leaving, he said, great kid, loved
having him. He's going to be great and I and
I was mad. I sent out a tweet back saying,
see you. And by the way, you left a lot
of pockets too soon. I mean you get mad. I
(23:02):
got mad, Yeah, he does so. By the way, last
year that though.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
He's kind of he's kind of a one and run.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
He's kind of a one and last year I.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Thought he would take the next step and he didn't,
So damn, don't let the door hit your ass on
the way out.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Pete, hey, Pete, right side, wrong result? Which game yesterday
did you bet on and made a pick on?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I had my picks. My picks are really really good.
I had a good day. I mean, like I released
my on our show on Tuesday. My best bet was
the Rams Lions game over and that went way over
and it was over almost at halftime, so that was
one of the best ones. The one that you I
was on the right side of was the Packers. They
had no business losing that game after after leading with
(23:55):
the ball until that throw to uh to watch and
that was the one that was the right. Well.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
LeVar had a couple of those that he was talking
about which I was on the wrong side of the
right bets.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah it happens.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Which one like Detroit, Detroit, Detroit and what what Buffalo,
New England, Buffalo, New England.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, and Detroit and then they let.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Them you know what they did. But New England they
had a chance to put their foot on their throats
and they let them they did, they let them back.
That's the worst in the AFC playoffs, that's the worst
thing because that's the team that nobody's going to want
to play because of that guy. That's period. I mean,
look in the AFC, there's gonna be a lot of
teams with feeling their way through. I mean, Jackson's never
this group hasn't been there that the Broncos haven't been there,
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but you know that guy has. The Patriots haven't been there.
That guy has, Nobody was going to want to play
them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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Speaker 3 (24:57):
We appreciate it, man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Next week, all right, guys, Thanks Pete forks up from Pete.
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Speaker 6 (25:27):
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Speaker 3 (25:37):
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Speaker 6 (25:38):
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And now that's MVP material to me. What makes the
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Speaker 6 (26:54):
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Speaker 2 (27:01):
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Speaker 3 (27:02):
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Speaker 7 (28:20):
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Speaker 3 (28:51):
The way tire buying should be Patty.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
First time, I gotta ask Patty bro just seeing the
way you was hop it off on the whole Christmas soul.
Huh when you were growing up, brou Yeah, were you
a Spaghettio's dude? Actually as a ravil Ravioli. Either way,
however you look at it, you clearly had the big me.
(29:14):
He had the big ass orange stain around his mouth.
One hundred percent. You are a ravioli. You are a
sauce around the face. He is really good man. What
do you guarantee you have a big show? Hey, let
me ask you. Do you have pictures of the ral
(29:37):
the ravioli beard, like the ravioli bring around your mouth? Sure,
I'm sure I could go ask my mom like for
all pictures percent she will gladly give them to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Just to be sure.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Here, bro, you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Probably have it at every level, at toddler.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Level, at at you know about lord, like there you
go that the there you go like if you eat
chicken farm, you have the like you get the orange
ring around your face one hundred percent your orange ring face, dude,
orange ring face, dude. Yes, when you did, when you
(30:17):
were singing the song and you was rocking back and forth,
I saw it so clearly.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It was so good. It was funny, Like get him
with a bag of Cheetos is a problem. It's a problem.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You let it hit your face, don't you They hit
your face back.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
True, sometimes happens, man, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm only you man.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It hits my face too.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
But you know, like like you said when he was
jumping in there and said, doesn't show on your face,
like it doesn't show on my face. But nonetheless it
has gotten there. You know, the ring was probably there,
just an invisible form, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Do chefboard he hits, Man, it's still good, chef boyard.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Thinking though, like we lived in an era where like
I would get off the bus, go home from school,
make myself that like in gosh, I'd have been an
elementary school, like like where my parents were come home
from work and everyone's working, and it was just like
that's what you did nowadays until the kids are old enough,
like much older than that. I don't know that I
(31:17):
feel comfortable to him coming home and like opening a can,
pouring it into a bowl, microwave and doing it without
creating an absolute mess? Is that more of a byproduct
of like what we are today's parents.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Everything successible on the phone is.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Pretty pretty, she's pretty self reliant.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Having an elementary school kid door dashing.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, they're having a cell phone in third grade.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I don't apparently that's the thing. I don't know what
that means.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Door dash, What does that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
You know, seems to be used a little bit out there.
Well you're using it to not have anyone ordering from
door dash.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So now on the subject of spaghettios, Yes, so what
Philip Rivers looked a little bigger than he did when
he last played me.
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Hey, hey the game, No were they almost want to
get some really? You know, I feel like this is
a good team in Seattle with a good defense. So
your first game out after five years and you look
like that, you come up a little short eyed.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I can't say that, you know. I came away feeling
like I could clown him. How sore is he going
to be?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
He's probably bro They probably put his whole body on
ice last night.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I want to just.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Make sure I'm very clear when I say this, because
this was not coming from me, but I had a
group text going on and I made the same comment
you just said about him being sore the next day,
and someone was like, you know, fat doesn't it's not
as sore, asn't bruised like muscle does, like muscle gets.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Sore fatten.
Speaker 12 (33:00):
And I was like, damn all right. I was like boys.
But the more I thought about that, the bore, I
was like, he's not wrong, Like he's gonna be sore,
but he's he put on some patting.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You know, he's able to absorb so of that, right, Yeah,
but that's from like maybe getting hit, like the movements,
the drop backs, the throws, the yeah, even just getting
through warm ups. I'm sure for him he was probably
he was probably sore out.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We're working on the back of his shoulder on the sideline.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
At one point, probably finished warm ups and was like, okay,
well you mean we got four quarters to go. Huh,
let's see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Here was Philip Rivers, forty four years old, making his
first start in five years, throwing a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Talking afterwards, I think.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Maybe, uh, you know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
It will I don't know, inspire or teach to you know,
not to run or be scared of what may or
may not happen, you know, hopefully, you know, certainly I'm
think of my sons and those ball players you know
that I've been in charge of at the school. Uh
that they'll say, like, crap, coach, one's scared, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's like shooting sometimes you uh, there is doubt and
it's real and you uh again you can, you can.
The guaranteed safe.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
Bet is to is to go home or or to
not go for it, and the other one.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is Shoott's see what happens.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Uh you know, And so uh yeah, I hope that
in that sense that it can it can be a
positive to to some young boys, you know, or young people.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Not as we boys. But but again that's not the motivation. Yeah,
you know, I'm I'm happy with.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
He's out of present his interview.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
God, how much how much as man? Hey, he extended
that insurance too for like five years, which a lot
of people how about that have ten kids or something.
Maybe that was the motivation, serious win, extending that insurance,
baby go back and getting that line of duty.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'll throw this out there.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Watching the beginning of that game, I kept thinking to myself,
Riley Leonard must have done something or not shown something
to have put the team in the position where they
felt like they needed to do this, because there was
nothing that Philip did that I thought Roley Leonard couldn't do,
(35:37):
and quite frankly, Roley Leonard can move a lot better.
So it adds another element to, you know, the rushing attack.
It's not just Jonathan Taylor have to worry about. It's
Leonard taking off too, even on pass plays. And he
had a rushing touchdown two weeks ago. So Philip Rivers
still obviously had the command of the operation get him
(35:57):
in the right play. You know, at times he's throwing
the football, there's just there's no zip on the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But it was in the right spot. I mean early on.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
A couple of those throws of Tyler Warren, like Taler
Warren could have made those catches. I mean he's made
him before, so I don't know. I mean again, at
the end of the day, their defense kept them in
that game, and they scored enough to make it close.
But I just I don't know what happened where you
didn't feel like comfortable or confident enough as a coach
(36:28):
putting in a game plan that Riley Leonard could execute,
who at this moment like has a better arm, is
a better athlete, and you know you're out there, you
know you taking some of the decision making maybe off
his plate, but I don't know, man. That's it was
as awesome as it was to see him out there
five years after the fact. There was an element of
(36:50):
reality where you're like, man, how's this gonna go? Moving forward?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
The last drive, he rolled to his right to make
a throw and he looked like a mummy. He couldn't
he couldn't move, And I'm like, oh no, man, like
he he couldn't move. She's going no, no, And I
(37:16):
wanted him to win so.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Man, so bad.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
When when when Blake group hit hit the fuel goals like,
oh okay, this this could happen. It's legitimately happened, and
fifty second forty seconds later the shocks came right back down.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
But by the way, Sam Darnold hasn't uh kind of
looks a little bit like last.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Year, otelingm. He ain't got that stamina, big game. Let
him do a win, man. He needs some hot sauce
is what he needs, and so does so does Philip Rivers.
They Philip, you want to get that ham standing together
and and and penetrate that fat that that he was
talking about on his uh his group text. Throw some
(38:00):
original Louisiana hot sauce on that thing. It's just three
simple ingredients. Put it on your plate. If you're not
putting it on your your your wounded or sore body parts,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It can make every day until a tailgate day.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
So make sure you check out the original Louisiana Hot
sauce and add a little bit of game day to
every day by using that Louisiana Hot. Bye you soon.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Coming up next here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. It's another edition of in case you missed
it right here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. We
are going to have an FSRIR coming up here in
about fifteen minutes from now. A reminder though, that every
goal starts with an assist on and off the field.
That's why Haleyon and US Soccer are lot launching for
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(39:04):
helped people achieve their goals with iconic brands like Censin, I, Toms,
Lil Taran, Advil, and Centrum. To learn more, go to
Haley on assist dot com. Congratulations to Fernando Mendoza who
won the Heisman on Saturday. Not a big surprise for anybody.
That was also part of a Quinn's wins. Correct, that's right,
(39:24):
that's right. Shot in the dark. But hey, someone's got
to make those bets, and we made it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
We made it, by the way.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Not a bad weekend for Quinn's wins. Thank you to
throw out of State for coming back. Fine way to
win that one couldn't get enough points out of boys.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
To do anything.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, my gosh, yeah, so would you do three
and two?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Three and two over five for the year during bowl
season when you don't know who's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
That's not bad. It's like NFL pre.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Army covered for me.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Unfortunate for Jeff Manka and the Boys though maybe pulls
out the win.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I also thought it'd be higher scoring.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Gosh, I knew they were going to play hard, man. Dang,
they got hard.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
It doesn't well playing hard couldn't necessarily points, but it
could possibly mean not scoring points. Q.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I know you're off playing hard. Yes, that's a possibility.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
It could possibly potentially to less less points like yeah,
some of those hits were like to me, was what's football?
There was football being played. You don't hear guys hit anymore?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You don't hear the collisions anymore. You did in that game,
they were colliding like I loved it. Army had it,
they had it.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
They gave it away. So they let them off the hook.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Man.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
They knew who they were and they let them get it.
So but it was a hell of a game to watch. Man,
what a great scene.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I've got to get there. I don't. We've got to
get there. I don't get.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You should we should? Gosh, seems like it can be done.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Most I think. And I are in the travel There
are you in the tra Why not?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Why wouldn't that be take out Annapolis?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Say, you don't know why.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Am I a huge fan of travel?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I mean, I'm good just staying home. But if it's
for an event like that, a sort of a once
in a lifetime opportunity to go see that game and
everything that comes along with it and what it means, Like, Yeah,
that would be awesome, and it's happened here. We've we've
had a show go out there before from Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Is that right? Yeah? Where did I go?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Anthony Gargana, Lincoln Kennedy went we were talking about So, yeah,
I would love to see it because the thing I
love about that game it's it's just football. Like there's
no like, there's not a bunch of you know, grab
ass and Shenanigans.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's just for grab ass.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Like it's just oh no, I ain't grab ass.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
What what other grab ass is going on?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It's like, uh like there's there's not there's not people
wondering whether or not Day's got a nipple piercing like
stuff like that. You're just watching the game and going everybody,
just keep that stuff in the holster and and just
focus on what this game means and and the people
that are putting their life on the line.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did did I see the Army stole the goat before
the game this week?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Did they?
Speaker 7 (42:17):
I thought I remember seeing them bring the goat into
some big assembly hall and the and obviously the cad
that's one nuts.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
You have to look it up to verify why not
just get why not just get a goat that looks
like the one that they.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Have and do it?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I mean, because what's the fun in that?
Speaker 6 (42:32):
I mean the fact that you feel the but that
the fact that you feel the sensations of we got
the goat, we got the Napolis goat.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know, we got the.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Well, yeah, that's what we're saying that, I mean, but
without taking the real one, so that there's no repercussions
or consequences to that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You know, Oh, I think you want if there's no risks,
there's no reward.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh okay, if you're gonna do it, do it right?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, oh all right? Speaking of doing it right.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
For Mendoza, your Heisman Trophy winner, here was a little
bit of his fantastic speech from Saturday night.
Speaker 9 (43:10):
I want every kid out there who feels overlooked, under
underestimated to know.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I was you.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I was that kid too. I was in your shoes.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
The truth is you don't need the most stars, hype
or rankings. You just need discipline, heart, and people who.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Believe in you.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
And you need to believe in your own abilities.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
I hope this moment shows you that chasing your dreams
are worth it, no matter how big or impossible they seem.
God bless Gohoders, Thank you guys all.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
There is the Cuban force. Gump with this on Fox
Sports right.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
A couple of things we'll throw out there. Fourth Heisman
winner in a row. I believe that it is a
transfer m So do with that what you will. I personally,
i'd love to speech. There's a lot of people who
are knocking at stats, which here's the only thing I'd
say about that. And this is where there's a lot
(44:08):
of ignorance out there on social.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Media and the internet.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
If you look at the stats for all the quarterbacks,
they were down in comparison to what it's been in
the past.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
And one of.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
The reasons is the actual pace of play. So since
they've started doing the coach to quarterback, teams are running
a lot slower because it takes longer to get the
plays in, longer to call them, longer to run them.
And there's also a thought for some of those teams
in particular. I know this for a fact with the
highest State. I know this for a fact with Notre Dame,
is the season is in most cases they're looking.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
At it being much longer than just.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Their normal twelve schedule games. If you're part of a conference,
at least thirteen for their conference championship and the potential
of having to go play, you know, three or four
games of the playoff. So there's a lot of coaches
too who are trying to limit snaps and opportunities. And
if you looked at all the stats of these players,
they weren't as much as what they'd been in the
(45:02):
past because of a number of those things. And then
like the Jeremiah Love they're comparing Johnny Manziel's rushing stats,
is it's like, well, he was also splitting carries Nimrod,
Like he's got another running back that ended up being
a second team All American this year.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So I just I do.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Hate some of the conversations that try to knock down
these young men for what they are on the field now.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
What they are off the field.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
There's an element of like, and I'm sure you know
everyone's gonna make fun of how Francisco Mendoza sounds sounds dorky,
I'm sure some would say. And what's odd to me
is like, I don't care how it sounds like. His
matchicine is incredible. He's got a passion for the game.
He stepped up and time and time again made plays
in critical moments to lead his team to be the
(45:53):
number one team in the country, undefeated, winning the Big
Ten Championship with the number one overall seed in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Like, you can't ask him to do much more. And so,
you know, we can have.
Speaker 7 (46:05):
A talk about what he's going to be as a
draft prospect and all that stuff, but I do wish
we'd just appreciate him for what he is and what
he brought to the game. And on the flip side,
with Diego Pavia, there's also that element too where I
feel like what he did on the field was incredible,
uplifting Vanderbilt. But I think what he probably doesn't realize
is he has done as much damage to himself. Who
(46:29):
is going to be a player that's looked at, at least
as an NFL draft prospect, is probably a mid to
late round pick in the first place, just because of
his height, and if you really turn on the tape
and watch him, he struggles to play from the pocket
and that's just something that you have to be able
to do to be successful in the NFL. But the
stuff he put out there on social media, the way
(46:50):
he's partying afterwards with the f Indiana, the whole thing,
the whole thing. And then he puts out a statement
that you could tell someone with your agency, you can
tell someone had put out from Vanderbilt that it's not
his words.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, the f all the voters family for life stuff
on social media that was there, and then what we
say at a party. He was saying some stuff at
the club afterwards. It's like, like I know.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
That he's flicking off the camera.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
They bring out a sona says f Indiana, which you
don't think someone with his crew is like, let's let's
do this. He's either got a terrible group around him
and maybe it's his family too with his brother getting
arrested and get an awful advice, or he just doesn't
care and both are bad, especially if he wants to
play in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I mean, I know that he's that Manziel's kind of
a mentor to him, but like I don't know if
this is he wants so desperately to be that guy,
but he just like.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
He comes off Manziel mentor him to be the way
Manziel was seems like Manziel has done a lot of
growing up since those days. So if he's if he
truly is a role model to him, I mean, I
don't think that that would be the advice that he
would give him is to screw yourself with hope.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
The part of the parts he just wants to bring
him down with him. You know, maybe he needs more
friends there.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The part the part I would the part I kind
of struggle with is and Mendoza mentioned it, you know,
during his speech and he's talking about all the legends
that are behind him on the stage, like basically the
who's who of college football, the guys that won that award,
and those guys go back there and they're so proud
to be in that room. Mendoza handled it perfectly and brilliantly.
(48:41):
And then you've got this other guy who's out there
doing what It's like, do you not recognize the company
you keep? Like the fact that Brady you were, you
were a Heisman finalist?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
What was there?
Speaker 7 (48:52):
I had better stats than Troy Smith, Like you could
have made the Diego Pavia line. I mean, Notre Dame
had the worst season the history of noterating football after
I left, Like you could have made that same argument
people were making won the Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Award, which is the other Player of the Year award, right,
So you could have made that argument. I could have
been salty about it. The reality is is what it is.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
But were are you looking around that room going, do
you know how cool this is to be there?
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Like just just to honestly, I there's two thoughts that
went through my head with the whole thing. I hate
individual attention. So the first thought I always had was like,
it's a it's a team award, like my my thing was.
And I know obviously paid now they've got money and
the Heisman trust. You know, it wasn't willing to then.
But you know, these all these teams and players can
(49:40):
like fly their guys out with them. I wish I
could have brought my entire line. I wish I could
have brought Samarge. I wish I could have brought like
a bunch of guys you know with me, Raymond McKnight,
Maurice stovall guys who.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Were all a part of that.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Because it's it's not an individual it is an individual award,
but it's not like every single guy that's a part
of that.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I wish could have been there. That's the first thing.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
The second is, you know, I wanted other people like
my parents to experience it, even though like they I
remember they interviewed my parents and I've never seen my dad,
I've never seen Chopper looked more like shell shocked them,
not wanting to be in that position ever, Like he
hates being around crowds, hates being around people in public,
and now they're going to put a light on them
(50:21):
and try to interview him like it was. It was
one of his more awkward moments. But I know we're
up against them on the break. I would just say
this to me, it was always a moment for like
everyone who helped you get there, And I thought Fernando
Mendoza did a good job of describing that for a
lot of the people out there. And then you know,
sharing his experience in winning games and speaking of games.
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Speaker 2 (50:52):
Pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
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