December 16, 2025 • 52 mins
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys talk more about injuries in the NFL and what to make of the Colts still going with Phillip Rivers as the starter. Plus, the guys talk with Dean Blandino, JJ McCarthy dancing, and more!!
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the show, Patrick Mahomes, we discussed this. The story going
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around yesterday was that he was getting a second opinion
on surgery from the Dallas Cowboys team physition, knowing.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Us with purposely botch his surgery if he came back
to get the surgery. That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
He did, in fact last night get the surgery done.
They repaired and it was the Cowboys team physician.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Who did it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It was the ACL and then the LCL.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So those that's even more reason to be offended.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Hunt and so he wanted to get this thing wrapped
up because the story going around yesterday was he was
going to get it done later this week, but he said,
screw it, get it done right away, get the rehab
process started. Jason Tatum did the same thing with his
achilles got it almost immediately. So now Patrick Mahomes is
on the road to recovery and hoping to be back
next year. I would assume. I mean, look, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Enough time for him to make it back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know that he's back right at.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The start of the year. If his clock starts now
and it's December, so we're in month twelve twelve, but
we're midway through, so let's just start at one, one, two, three,
four six. He's got seven months.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think I think he starts next year on the
IR which is four.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Gad that's very possible. But you're saying October seven months
from now, that's July, Well that's July. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But it's more towards like the nine ten month range,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think it's like six to seven six, six to seven,
pretty quick, six seven, six to seven.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh no, it's pretty quick, six sevenven.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's just so stupid anyway. Yeah, it's like a six
to seven month deal. Most most major surgeries, it takes
you six to seven months to get back up up
to speed on being able to do athletic work, power work,
strength work, like where it's like you're running and doing
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agility and stuff like that, like six months.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Also, you know what, we can stop showing the replay
of the knee injury.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like it was.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was bad, we got it, like they keep showing Mike.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Just stop. They keep showing Patrick mahomess too. I know,
it's such. It just seemed like it was such a
casual play, Like I wouldn't have gave that a season
ending injury on the Patrick Mahomes one. Really, it just
didn't seem like I'm just saying, like the the casual
nature of which he was moving and then the way
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the tackle took place, it just I wouldn't have It
just didn't seem like it was heading towards that, you
know what.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know what I've noticed about kind of on top
of but a little bit off topic. People are so
educated and by people. I mean, when you watch a
game now, anybody listening to this show right now, whether
it's on the podcast or live right now with us
here on FSR, we're so educated on injuries and what
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an injury looks.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
To be calling it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
When you see it happen achilles, you know immediately yep, yep,
that's an achilles, Like when Micah suffered the knee injury.
I saw the outside of his knee.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
ACL. Yep, you just like we've we've we've.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Been around this for so long that everybody just sort
of knows and just just from viewing it. There was
a moment years ago where you knew that the UFC
had gotten to another level because they too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
These guys are fighting.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They you know, they get to their feet and you
have the crowd start chanting knee because they knew in
that moment the guy's got to throw a knee just
because they had watched it so much. They were so
knowledgeable on the event, on the game, on the sport
at that point because they had taken it in and
been around it for so long. We've been around the
NFL and been around sports for so long. You can
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identify injury or not.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I've been around it so long. I know how to
treat it. You're a doctor. I can diagnose and treat.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Me.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like, oh, yeah, all you need I've heard you do
the Voltaian reads like, yeah, all you need is a
little Voltaaran, get you some ice. Yeah, I'm treating my
back right now as we do the show, Like I
know how to hit it. Like the different sides, you know,
right down the center lower upper, like it's just just you,
just you. You start to get an awareness for for
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things man like, and that's good. It's good to have
an educated fan base, it really is, because it doesn't stop.
It doesn't stop there, It doesn't stop with you know,
just injuries and things like that. Like you see that
education of the fan come out, and what gambling and
and and just their support of players. It's not just
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so blind anymore. You know, people don't get to just
say and do what they want to do anymore because
the amount of access to information is so overwhelming. It's
so easy to get to the information that it's you
don't you almost don't have to depend on experts anymore.
And that's why I show like ours is so awesome
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to listen to because we're not trying to tell you
we know more than you're. All we're doing is basically
giving you perspective and having a good time with the conversation.
You know, because honestly speaking, if you're looking for the whole,
like breakdown, Q would give you the whole, like I
know my s type of breakdowns you know from time
(07:30):
to time. But you could go to AI and get
the same information he's given you. You can go to
so many different sources and outlets to be able to
get the information where if you can read quickly enough,
if you can type it in quickly enough, and you
could say it with confidence quickly enough, you sound like
you know what you're talking about, even if you're just
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regurgitating something that you're reading. So to me, I think
the educational component of sports has really gone up. And
I'll say this, I feel like fantasy football and gambling
all together created the perfect storm to create the want
to do it right. There has to be a want
and a need to do that and be engaged enough
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to do it. And I think you know a lot
of times you look at gambling, you look at the
fantasy football factor of it, like could I be a GM,
could I make decisions for a team? Different things like that.
Think it creates a level of like competitiveness and wanting
to know things. So shouts out to those who have
created that want and know, Like you gotta know injuries.
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If you're betting, you know, you got to know the information.
If you're you're putting money on the line or you're
building your fantasy football team, like this is common information. Yeah,
and you can tell like I can remember years ago
watching heinz Ward get dinged and then reach down to
feel like his knee or his ankle, and I thought, smart, smart,
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that's a smooth move.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Like you just you just you take it in for
so long that you're just acquiring all this knowledge that
you can see the human body going a certain way
and know, oh that that's a that's a concussion Achilles,
that's a concussion, that's an acl So you know, Patrick
Mahomes gets the surgery done by the Cowboys team physician,
gets it done in Dallas, and he's already off and running.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know what else is really different now nowadays, in
this new era of time, is the way we react
to things Like a guy gets his leg mangled. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
see it, give us the replay. Oh we can win
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the game now. Like you see a guy get his
head knocked off, you'd be like, yeah, help, right, you
see all these different things that took place back in
the day. Somebody get decapitated on like a blind side
block or chop blocked, and you see his leg just
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dislocated from the rest of his body, and we loved it.
This era is so touch sensitive. It's like, somebody gets hit,
it's like, oh my josh, the valance. Somebody gets hurt.
It's like prayer emovis. Oh, I don't understand. Oh the humanity.
(10:31):
I don't understand why this is happening. Why is this happening?
Like people really be crashing out and falling apart over
calamity in sport. No, if you got money on the game,
you don't think, I say, cl to be intact. We yeah,
but there's always been money on the games. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like, there's always been money on
the games. People just like they have been trained and
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conditioned to like it's so crazy you see a big
hit in football these days. First of all, it's it's
it's so uncommon anymore to see like big hits in football.
One and then two, it's like when you see them,
it's like you look at the person that delivered the
hit like they're a criminal. Why, oh, that's assault. He
(11:18):
should go to jail for that? Like what wait, hold on?
The one guy got ejected, didn't he get ejected for uh?
Tony Jeffers. I didn't think it was targeting at all.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's that's one of that's that really pissed me. I
can't wait to talk to Dean about that, because I
I don't know that's I mean, that's a whole nother.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I didn't say a whole nother.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's just coming up later.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It's just ridiculous, the whole, the whole targeting. God man,
it's just strange to me. Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's that's really aggravated, strange to me. We do have
a little bit of good news here though, Okay, some
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inspirational Philip Rivers, He's still gonna play this week. You're
gonna play again. You and Brady fat shamed on the
area yesterday. Philip Rivers will be QB one in Indianapolis
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in their next game. Not just what we saw against
the Seattle Seahawks, but on Monday Night football against the Niners.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Philip Rivers will be under center about next week. I mean,
Philip is the start next week? Is that how we
should proceed? Okay, yeah, the starting quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
For him to go out there and do what he
did to put us in a position to win in
a hostile environment after that long of a layoff was
pretty impressive, you know, getting us into the right place,
managing the game. I thought he was phenomenal in that
regard on the sidelines, as a leadership, all those things
that he brings to our team will be beneficial, you know, for.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So that was Shane Styke and the head coach of
the Indianapolis Colts. And my big question is, well, why
wouldn't he be like, at this point, what do you
got to lose? You're already in a tough spot. The
season is slipping away. Clearly whatever you saw in Riley
Leonard was not the answer. So, yeah, you bring Philip
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Rivers out of retirement. You know, he restarts his insurance
that you pointed out, and you know, he's got like
fourteen hundred kids, and he's gonna go out there and
he's gonna he's gonna go sling it at home against
the Niners on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's gonna be fun, fun for everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know what what it results in, And I
don't know how he's feeling right now, because it's always
it's never the next day when you go back to
work out for the first time in a long time,
it's two days later. That's a real bitch and a half.
So what do you think he's feeling like right now?
I don't think it's two days and a half at all.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I do think it. I don't think it's the next
day for somebody at his age that has n't. What
do you think his next hour he's like now, Like
I know that Nectar of the Gods is some bad
ass juice. I'll say that, but but I honestly believe, Yeah,
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he's he's hurting during the game. He comes into the
game hurting. It's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I if you asked me my opinion on it, that
told me the season was over, told me the season
was over. Like season's over for the Colts. I mean
it's over, like like just just accept we brought in
this old ass player that was retired. He's been retired
for all this time, and he's our best option at
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the pro level. At the pro level, done like done
at the quarterback position. Done, Sorry, your season's done. Like
you have you have in your mind you think you're
trying to save your season. In reality you've told everybody
our season is ft done. Yeah, it's closed. Like what
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are the conclusion can you come to?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I also think, you know, why the hell not, like,
honest to god, what do you have to lose at
this point? And so I look at it as more
of a this is the same organization that brought Jeff
Saturday off a TV desk to coach a team and
how that season go all right, a little lesson done. Yeah,
But it's also the same organization that's, you know, had
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bad luck after bad luck moment when it comes to
the quarterback position to where they've tried so many different
things since Andrew Luck decided to bail, and so like.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, how put that? Don't put that evil on Andrew Lucky?
I mean, I said, like, you know, don't put that
on Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean, Abe Lincoln steps up on the sideline and
tells Jacoby Bris said, hey, I'm out of here. It's
like this is the last preseason game. Season starts in
ten days, and you're out, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Andrew Lucky is myb bro. Yeah, Well, as he's a
twenty two I mean class of twenty two. Well, he's
a college football Hall of Famer. He put the Colts
in a pretty tough spot. So because he's greambling, they've
been scrambling. The trouples themselves in horrible I mean to.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Kobe Brissett, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, Sam Ellinger, like all
of these quarterbacks have been through. And then the guy
they drafted number four overall who was supposed to be
the quarterback of.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
The funeral and I don't even put his name out there.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
The guy got his face caved in by a workout
exercise band that snapped and hit him back in the mouth,
like he literally.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
His face broken. BINX.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
If you're this organization, if you're the culture looking around
going it, yeah, we'll sign Philip Rivers. Let me tell
you something, if you played quarterback in the nineteen twenties,
go get a shovel and dig that guy up too,
Like we got to lose.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hey, go dig the owner while you're at it. Yeah,
I mean you said it. What do you got to lose?
I mean he does. He does have a Super Bowl.
I mean there's no yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I just if I'm the Colts, I'm just looking around going, yeah,
he's going to be the starter. Yes, and and we're,
you know, God willing he can get out there for
the next three games. And it's not like, and here's
the one thing I would say about this, it's not
like Philip Rivers got the soft part of the schedule.
You had to play at Seattle first game back, You've
got the Niners at home, and then you've got Jacksonville
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and Houston to close out the year.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, they're playing pretty good. They're all playing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like Houston might be the scar Houston might be the
scariest team in the AFC, Like that might be the
one that you go, yeah, let's try and avoid them,
Like if we could avoid them, that would be And
Philip Rivers has got to deal with all that. So look,
I don't know what this turns into. It does feel
I'm with you, like the season's over over, But at
least it's going to be entertaining on the way.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
If you if for some strange reason, you're a Colts
fan and you feel like you still have a chance
after they made this decision.
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Did you see JJ McCarthy do the gritty when he
read is that what you want to call that?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think that's what it's called. That's what they were
calling it. Yeah, that's not what the gritty looks like. Yeah,
well that's not what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean, he you know, he he.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Gave his interpretation of what I guess that dance.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, and you know, apparently he was told not to
do that in practice, and he did it anyways. And
so his head coach, Kevin O'Connell after the game, you know,
spoke about the celebration going into the end zone and
it sounded like this.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I would say, the finish I would not classify as special.
It was entertaining. That's I guess. We are in the
entertainment business. But I would have preferred him to show
that that forty time that he likes to talk about
having never run a forty coming out, which was unique
to say the least, but as a guy who once
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ran a fast forty and couldn't throw it very well.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I can probably.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Understand why quarterbacks are choosing to do that these days.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But yeah, I thought the cell.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I thought the moment, the action, all those things, and uh,
you know, even I knew the play and I knew
what was happening, and the action was so good. I
you know, I even had to take a double take
right there. And it's awesome moment in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Uh, he finished strong. It was cringe all the way
up until till the landing. It was like, oh, oh, oh,
where are you going? Oh oh, okay. He seemed annoyed.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it bothered him. Yeah, Like he seemed annoyed with
the idea that he wanted him to act like he's
been there exactly. And I guess that's the part that
I look at and I don't really I don't understand
why JJ McCarthy doesn't see the overall big picture because
he's Look, he's probably excited. He's played better. He has
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played better. That was a really good game for him.
And there's been a lot of people questioning the Viking's
decision to want to go with him and let Sam
Darnold walk and Daniel Jones walk and all the stuff
that comes along with.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It, so weird ass, gritty, non looking, gritty dance going
into the end zone makes all of that, like all
of the bad legitimize and all of the good the
nine out the door, the nine crap, Like he's just
being ego, being sarcastic. You're being serious. I'm being sarcastic,
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Like there's no reason to get caught up on the
fact that the dude did a little celebration going into this. Yeah,
I listen.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I don't care so much about the celebration. It's the
fact after all the noise and all the discussion about
like why do you have an alter ego? Why do
you like this isn't going well, It hasn't gone well.
This is way worse than anybody expected it to be.
He was he was instructed not to do it in
practice and still went out in the game and did it.
(24:56):
I can understand why. Kevin O'Connell's like, what do we do?
Like why why why is this happening? Like way to
string a couple of a few games together before you're
out there, you know, going rogue and doing some you know,
candy ass dance into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I just think there's different strokes for different folks, and
if that's how your coach feels, then you have to
be aware and cognizant of what your coach is feeling.
I will say this in twenty twenty five, and I've
said this quite a bit to you, guys. People are
(25:35):
different these days. Guys are very very different. Touched they
touched man. And at the end of it, when you
think about what type of people you're dealing with in
these scenarios, I would much rather support and put wind
(25:58):
in his wings and make him feel like he can
beat the world. I would not do anything that would
place or create any type of doubt in his mind.
If in that moment that's what he felt he wanted
to do, I'm gonna be up in his face like, boom,
(26:20):
hit them shoulder pads, hit the arms, like that's what
I'm talking about, Like, let's keep it going, nine, let's
go nine. Oh gosh, yeah yeah. And you know that
you wouldn't be able to be a good coach. And
I'm gonna tell you why, because if you can't bring
that type of assurance and reassurance and belief value to
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your team and to your players, especially your quarterback who
has struggled, then they're probably going to continue to struggle.
They're probably trying to figure out how to find what
the proper you know, level of even play good footing
on what it is that they're doing. And a lot
of it is based off of interpretation. If I see
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my coach hyped up and listen, maybe he was. Maybe
he was during the game. I don't, I don't. I
didn't paying attention to it that close, but just listening
to the way he spoke about it, I think he
was speaking with a lot of sarcasms. So I don't
think that it's that big of a deal. But I'm
just saying for the sake of conversation, when you have
a young player, and even if you have an old
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head player, like, it's no different than how a jockey
rides a horse like and people may have got you
just compare athletes to a horse, Well, horses. Horses are athletes,
by the way, but you got to know how to
motivate your horse. Some horses are younger, and they're more spry,
(27:47):
they're more like energetic and like ready to go, and
they're up in the gate and it's like come on,
like let's let's get it. Then you got the old
heads that are up in there and they're tourds the end,
and you gotta, like, you gotta cisele them. You got,
you gotta get them pumped up, you got, you gotta,
But you can't do it in a way where they
(28:07):
shoot their gun while they're still waiting to be released
from the gate start the race. It's the same thing
with your players. You gotta know how to handle your players.
If you got a player that's a young, spry player,
then you got to figure out how to get him
running the race the way you need him to run
the race, hit the corners, and then have enough for
for the home stretch to get across the finish line.
(28:30):
You got an old head out there, you gotta know
how to get him motivated enough to stay close and
then really really really push them almost to death to
get you to that finish line to get the results
you're seeking. If you don't have the character traits and
the energy and the IQ balance and in the IQ
(28:52):
of emotions and mental you cannot coach in this day
and age. You cannot. It would be malpractice of coaching.
If you're an old school style coach, f you, you
stupid mother like Brokats ain't going for that these days.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
If you were coaching, since I'm not a good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Coach, said I said that that should be because that
was riddled with racial undertones.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Wow you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, and so am I And you attacked me and
said I couldn't be a good coach, oh gosh, which
and that was full.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Of racial undertones.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Okay, But but the point is he if if somebody,
if you told a player that you were coaching, do
not do this in a game, and they went ahead
and did it afterwards, and then after the game the
player said, yeah, I was told not to do that,
but it just made me want to do it more.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That wouldn't piss you off as a coach. Jaj McCarthy said,
I was more advised to do it. Can we start
Can we start here? Can we start here? Yeah? Why
are you telling him don't do it? He's a pro.
Why are you telling him don't gritty into the into
the end zone?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Because he sucked majority of the season and he's out
there with monikers and aliases and I'm nine and I'm
this and I'm that. Dude, just string together a few
games before we start dancing, like like all and by
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So don't be yourself until you've you've done enough to
be yourself. Yeah, okay, so you're okay with the results
of telling your your starting quarterback to not be himself.
I would like my stary, do you want him to
give you the results of what it would take to
be himself. I would like my starting quarterback to have
(30:46):
enough self awareness to go, hey, before I start eating dessert,
and maybe I should go ahead and eat my dinner
and eat my vegetables, and before I start out there
and start running around with the greed. What what if
your player comes in? What if your player comes in
and does was always what they started with and then
they eat this food after.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So, because he came from Michigan, where he was sort
of a lot of people have assumed along for the ride,
not so much the reason they won, but he was
a guy that was there.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He was a part of the reason why they won. Okay,
I seen him play. I meant he made plays for
them when they needed place. And here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He's shown moments where you're like, all right, Like he
can throw the ball, he's got athleticism like all of
that stuff. But the problem is when you think of
JJ McCarthy this year, here's what you think of nine the.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Gritty, Like, it's just that's what you think of.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You mean to tell me when people when JJ McCarthy
struggles that, people don't pull out the the nine comments like,
it's like that's the part I.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Don't I do not get, but understand this. He's the
starting quarterback for a National Football League team. Sure, he's
going to get scrutiny. The situation, the way he went
out with the injury last year, the way Sam Darnold
played last year, the way he's playing this year. That
(32:15):
team is going to receive scrutiny. That player in particular
is going to receive scrutiny. You can't base what you
do off of what people say about you. You cannot
do things differently based off of what the noise of
criticisms logged your way like you. You can't allow that
(32:39):
to dictate who you are. That's why it's kind of
like for me, I get you like entertained it. You know,
I get that the coach entertained it, but shut it
down because you have a player in development that's trying
to find his way as a young player that could
(33:01):
ultimately hold your job in the literally in his hand
with every single time he's making a decision on the field.
Build him up and defend him and protect him. That's
what you do. Don't baby him. I'm not saying baby him,
(33:22):
which that interpretation isn't for the outside world anyway. But
what you do is you shield your team, not just
one player. You shield your team, and you always make
sure that as a coach, your team knows that they
are what's most important to him, not the media, not
(33:43):
the fans, not anything else. You are my guys, and
I will defend that, and I will protect that. Let's
do this together. If players feel that, especially in twenty
twenty five, if players feel like you can ask, like,
do a survey, go ask random football players in the
(34:04):
National Football League in college if they feel as though
they're in an environment where it's a love environment, where
it's a family environment, where people care about one another environment,
they are going to generally give you a better effort.
You are going to see a better product. The problem is,
(34:27):
we say it but a lot and it's crazy to
watch it play out, but there are a lot of
people that are incapable of being able to create an
environment where guys actually care about one another, where you
actually had your teammates or your players that you coach
(34:48):
feeling as though they matter. Like it's very difficult for
people to be a My kid had us. My kid
this year had a coach that didn't even say hello
to the players, didn't talk to them, didn't build a
relationship on a personal level, total disconnect. Worst I seeing
(35:11):
this defense. Look since I've been watching them play. Worst
I've ever seen Penn State's defense. Look since I've been
watching them play. You have a leader. You have a
leader that doesn't even speak, doesn't even imagine if we
did a show Jonas and I don't even.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Speak to you, Oh god, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay, well let's try it. Damn. Treat you like a
little bitch. Jam Damn, you'll get better. You'll get better
results with sugar than what you will get with vinegar.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And again this is it's not gonna make or break
the guy's career. I just look at it and I go, dude,
can you just wait until we string together some success
before we start dancing and coming up with monikers and aliases? Say, okay,
you don't go to church.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
All right? Every week. No, you shout now because the
war has already been one. Oh man, Yeah, you don't
go to church. Man, it's the holiday season, they say,
Jesus is the reason for the season. Like, man, you
don't even be subscribing. I got news for you. You talking
about wait for Jesus to bring you a miracle before
you dance? Why you dancing before GD? Like, so you're
(36:22):
not a believe You don't believe. What you're basically saying
is I don't believe. Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
There's gonna be plenty of time to go to church
in Minnesota because your Sundays are going to open up
here real quick.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And it doesn't involve the playoffs. So amen.
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Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with the air
coming up in about fifteen minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of The Leftovers that will
be yours right here on FSR. But right now, it
is time for a Tuesday tradition here on this show.
And I do have it on good authority that this
man selected this song. We welcome in the one and
(38:46):
only Dean Blandino. Oh my list shorts, NFL College Football
Rules Analysts. To get him on x at Dean Blandino, Dean,
good morning, No what good morning?
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Hi's LeVar. I kind of agree with you. Yeah, the
intro like it just doesn't feel like Patrick ast me. Hey,
what's your favorite Christmas song? I love that song? All
on on Christmas Darling Love from one of my favorite
Christmas movies.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Love Actually there, hold on, hold on date almost Dan,
Dan back, hold on, we got to do it right,
hold on, Dane, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
Hey, he's Dean Blendino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football Rules Analysts.
He's a Tuesday tradition here on the show. More put
more you can get him on acces. Dean Blendino at
a little bit more raspbier. Watch where you step. That's good,
and watch what you say bring it home? Well, she'll
(39:45):
go away.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We'd have to give you an offer you can't refuse. Dan,
good morning.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Now see now that's better. I hope said the Godfather scene,
just to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, that's your favorite Christmas song. It's a good head.
Now we can get into it, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
So I'm curious to see kind of what your thoughts
were on these calls. The Tony Jefferson ejection for the
Chargers that Jim Harborough is talking about, I don't know
what he's supposed to I get the penalty, the ejection
I'm trying to figure out. Also the Tyler shuck slide
(40:27):
at the end of the game against the Panthers that
resulted in a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Where do you land? Where did those land with you?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
As far as penalties, ejections, should they have been called, etc?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Well, I think that Jefferson, it's a foul. I think Look,
we've talked about this, you know, Levars like live this.
You know, as a defensive player and how the rules
have evolved, you can't hit a receiver who's considered defenseless
trying to make a trying to make a catch, can't
hit him in the head. And it was there was
(41:00):
Holme time a contact watching it live watching you know,
even the replace, I didn't think that was a hit
that raised the level of an ejection. I really think
that the aftermaths right where where okay players is injured, uh,
(41:21):
you know, the reaction from the chiefs, all of all
of that I believe kind of factored into him being ejected,
which I'm not I don't necessarily agree with.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know, I think you have to.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Take the hit itself. Was it was it Flay Grant?
Was it agreed?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
No, it was.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
It was a football play. He was trying to make
the hit. He was trying to to this lodge the football.
So I didn't think that was an ejection. I think
if if if he'd get if the receiver, I forget
who it was. But if he get jumps right back
up and goes back to the huddle, I don't think
he's ejected. I think everybody kind of just moves on
(42:00):
the other one. The shut play, and you thought that's
one where look he slid, you got to stay off them.
It's such a big situation in the game, So I
think I think it got got a lot of attention.
Obviously puts them in field goal range to win the game.
But you know when the when the quarterback slides like that,
I thought it was you know, he's literally enough and
and and you got to stay off from you can't
(42:20):
make that contact. And that's one that that one to
me was more on you know, the defender than anything else.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Deed is there because I know that there's been rules
that have been put in place to you know, help
the offense, whether that's set out loud or not. You know,
like you want more scoring the kickoff, like all the
all the things that have been done, has there been
anything done? And I'm asking this seriously to help the
defense to where in conversations during the off season, they're like,
(42:49):
you know what, the defense is really getting the shaft
in this regard, maybe we should do something about, you know,
how how the how offenses are taking advantage of this situation,
Like like, can you think of how the defense has
benefited from a rule change or anything like that in
recent years?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Well, yeah, I think there's there have been certain changes.
Look that there's no question that offensive production, passing, scoring
that the Competition committee. I think that's and that's the reality, right.
I don't think if you ask most football fans, I
don't think they want to see six three games, right,
They'd rather see thirty five thirty one. But I think
(43:26):
maintaining offensive and defensive balance is so important. You want
offenses to be able to put points on the board,
but you can't just have a track meet. Nobody wants
to watch it. Well, whoever gets the ball last is
going to win. There's no drama there, there's no it's
just you got to have that balance. I think there
is have been rules in place as it relates to
certainly low blocks and protecting defensive players from those types
(43:49):
of things, expanding things like chop blocks when it's a
high low block, those types of things. I also think that,
you know, one of the things they got to look at,
and I think they looked at in the past is
offensive pass difference and blocking and picks and those rub
routes and those types of things. So I think there
have been, but ultimately it is it is seen as
(44:11):
more of a when you look at rules changes, you know,
how do we how do we maintain a healthy offense
and sometimes unfortunately the defense becomes an after thought. But
that offensive defensive balance is so important.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So we saw Micah go out with a nasty knee injury.
Would you say when you lose premiere guys like Michael Parsons,
it impacts the excitement going into the game, maybe viewership,
maybe interest level in what's going on when you lose
a Marque player, even if he's a pass rushing guy
(44:45):
on the other side of the ball. Will we will
we say that there's an impact there, no.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Question, no question. We were in the booth. I mean,
we were in the booths for our game. We have
the lines and rams and we you know, we heard
through you know, guys on the crew that Micah. You know,
it looked like it was it was going to be
a significant injury, and everybody was just kind of like
it deflated every You know this because this is a
premiere player. It doesn't matter what side of the ball
they're on. You know, we lost, you know, then you
(45:13):
lose the homes. You lose guys that in our game,
Devantay Adams went down with a hamstring. Doesn't look like
it's going to be it's going to be that that
significant hopefully, but whenever you lose those guys that it
absolutely it diminishes. We have we have Bears Packers Saturday
night and and not having Micah there is a is
(45:33):
a big, big hit to that game.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm glad you said that, Dean, because and and I'm
glad that you mentioned the Bears because Colston Loveland the
tight end. Did you see did you see his monster
block all Males Garrett? Then you saw it?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
How is that praise? And listen, my home hu Ship
Shipley did a whole breakdown on Loveland in the block,
and how beastly of a block it was. And this that,
And you gotta have your head on the swivel in
the NFL, because this is the NFL. No, No, Dean,
(46:17):
enough is enough. If you have a premiere guy on
that side of the ball, there should be the same
type of action taken to protect those guys. This guy
is on pace to snap destroy the single season sack record.
(46:37):
And imagine if what happened to Micah happens to Miles
Garrett because he's getting obliterated by a chip block. This
wasn't even I don't even call that a chip block
because it's just a blind side block. I mean he
came down on him. It's a blind side block. I'm
(46:58):
so sick and tired of this not being discussed more
that guys are just left out and not to mention
when they come around that edge. I'm seeing so much hugging, tackling,
pulling for everyone that we see get called dean. They
(47:20):
are not calling these penalties on these guys that are
holding and pulling these guys, and for what is worth
to a civilian. They don't realize what that feels like
to be moving that fast, or moving with that type
of torque and power, and a three hundred pound plus
man that's over six foot five is pulling on you
(47:43):
and grabbing on you and hugging on you while you're
trying to continue to run. If you can't comprehend it,
it's very difficult to say how egregious this is to
watch it taking place. I'm sorry I got in my feelings,
but it's just I see so much of it.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
Do you you need to go look in the mirror
with some positive affirmations. I mean, we can we can
talk through that.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I need to get that out. I need it. I
needed this session.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, you're not a one trick and you're here to
help and all that.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
I believe me, I've been off. I agree with you.
Could not agree with you more when you talk about those.
And that was one of the things, like we're talking about, okay,
rules that we'll put in to protect the defense is
the blind side block, and and and and Typically when
that rule went in, it was more like out in space,
it was the punt return, it was those changing direction place.
(48:38):
But that's happening some of those, like you said, whether
it's a chip block or some of these wham blocks
or whatever you want to call them, they are coming
from the blind side. You can't protect yourself. One of
the things that that you know, I think they need
to look at doesn't happen all that often. We talked
about chop blocks earlier. When I'm engaged high right, you
can't cut me at at the at the at the
(49:00):
fig or below because I can't protect myself. Well, same
thing with a chip block. You know, where I'm engaged,
I'm trying to come off the edge and then this
guy just comes from the side and knocks the crap
out of me. That's a defenseless player. When you're talking
about my focus isn't on this player that's coming across
and making contact with me. So I think the league
needs to look at that. And absolutely, if you imagine,
(49:21):
I mean we were all, I mean miles like you said, mouth,
he has an incredible chance to break the sack record,
and for to lose him right now on a hit
like that would be I think that would not be
good for the league. And that's something definitely the committee
who needs to look at going forward.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Dean, before I let you go, you got any holiday
pet Peeves? Is there anything that really pisses you off
this time of year? Could be a food item, people's
manners when they're going shopping, Traffic. Is there anything that
just rubs you the wrong way?
Speaker 5 (49:52):
I mean, I traffic. I am my worst version of
myself when I'm in the car.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh no, it's not like you're a New Yorker too.
Speaker 5 (50:03):
I am a New Yorker. I am. I don't I've
never ever I made a pack. I don't honk unless
it's a safety issue.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
You talk to him, though, Oh but I will.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
I will, like just and I'm not even like a
big like flip of the bird, like not even that.
I just the other day yeah, I know I've taken
a tack now where I like, where it's more, I
feel like it's more impactful. Where I act disappointed, just
like I give like a thumbs down, I'll give him
like a thumb down, like shake my head like it's
(50:36):
just more like you're just moron. And I'm not even
going to get mad, but I'm just so disappointed. I mean,
it's not hard, just signal, just give give me, give
me a blinker, give me something like, you know, pick
a lane, like it's not hard.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
My son's four, and I was driving around with him
and I do the same thing, and I just it
wasn't even that big.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Of a deal.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
But I was just annoyed and I just drove by
and looked at somebody and just shook my head and discuss.
And my son says to me, he goes, Papa, why'd
you shake your head? And I had no good answer.
It's like, yeah, you're right, I probably shouldn't have done that,
but it's just you're in your car and you just
you lose it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Man.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Well, I had my youngest, my youngest he was probably
about six or seven at the time, and one time
he just goes down. He goes it just seems like
you're the only one out there that knows how to drive.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
I'm like that, Yeah, that's right. Well, yea and my
daughter both rolled down the window and start at mother
fing them. Yeah, we do it together with that, and
I say, this is the only time you're allowed to
do this is when you're with dad home. Don't ever
do this on your own.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
It's a good move.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, I'll teach them my mom. You know, you got
to properly be road raging if you're going to do it. Uh, Dean,
we appreciate.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Are you going to be in Chicago for the game
this Saturday or where are you going to be at?
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Well, actually I'm not going to be the crew will
be in Chicago. I'm doing CFP games Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Nice big time now, Yeah, so excited about that.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Get him on x at Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL
College Football Rules analyst.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Always appreciate it. Let's do it again next week. Both there.
He is the great Dean Blandino.
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You got that off your chest. Man, think I feel
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like we were trying to state our case for the
defense there.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
So got to protect the guys. Man, you have to.
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
Us with purposely botch his surgery if he came back
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going to get it done later this week, but he said,
screw it, get it done right away, get the rehab
process started. Jason Tatum did the same thing with his
achilles got it almost immediately. So now Patrick Mahomes is
on the road to recovery and hoping to be back
next year. I would assume. I mean, look, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Enough time for him to make it back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know that he's back right at.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The start of the year. If his clock starts now
and it's December, so we're in month twelve twelve, but
we're midway through, so let's just start at one, one, two, three,
four six. He's got seven months.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think I think he starts next year on the
IR which is four.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Gad that's very possible. But you're saying October seven months
from now, that's July, Well that's July. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But it's more towards like the nine ten month range,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think it's like six to seven six, six to seven,
pretty quick, six seven, six to seven.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh no, it's pretty quick, six sevenven.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's just so stupid anyway. Yeah, it's like a six
to seven month deal. Most most major surgeries, it takes
you six to seven months to get back up up
to speed on being able to do athletic work, power work,
strength work, like where it's like you're running and doing
(03:56):
agility and stuff like that, like six months.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Also, you know what, we can stop showing the replay
of the knee injury.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like it was.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was bad, we got it, like they keep showing Mike.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Just stop. They keep showing Patrick mahomess too. I know,
it's such. It just seemed like it was such a
casual play, Like I wouldn't have gave that a season
ending injury on the Patrick Mahomes one. Really, it just
didn't seem like I'm just saying, like the the casual
nature of which he was moving and then the way
(04:29):
the tackle took place, it just I wouldn't have It
just didn't seem like it was heading towards that, you
know what.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know what I've noticed about kind of on top
of but a little bit off topic. People are so
educated and by people. I mean, when you watch a
game now, anybody listening to this show right now, whether
it's on the podcast or live right now with us
here on FSR, we're so educated on injuries and what
(04:58):
an injury looks.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
To be calling it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
When you see it happen achilles, you know immediately yep, yep,
that's an achilles, Like when Micah suffered the knee injury.
I saw the outside of his knee.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
ACL. Yep, you just like we've we've we've.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Been around this for so long that everybody just sort
of knows and just just from viewing it. There was
a moment years ago where you knew that the UFC
had gotten to another level because they too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
These guys are fighting.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They you know, they get to their feet and you
have the crowd start chanting knee because they knew in
that moment the guy's got to throw a knee just
because they had watched it so much. They were so
knowledgeable on the event, on the game, on the sport
at that point because they had taken it in and
been around it for so long. We've been around the
NFL and been around sports for so long. You can
(05:50):
identify injury or not.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I've been around it so long. I know how to
treat it. You're a doctor. I can diagnose and treat.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Me.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like, oh, yeah, all you need I've heard you do
the Voltaian reads like, yeah, all you need is a
little Voltaaran, get you some ice. Yeah, I'm treating my
back right now as we do the show, Like I
know how to hit it. Like the different sides, you know,
right down the center lower upper, like it's just just you,
just you. You start to get an awareness for for
(06:25):
things man like, and that's good. It's good to have
an educated fan base, it really is, because it doesn't stop.
It doesn't stop there, It doesn't stop with you know,
just injuries and things like that. Like you see that
education of the fan come out, and what gambling and
and and just their support of players. It's not just
(06:47):
so blind anymore. You know, people don't get to just
say and do what they want to do anymore because
the amount of access to information is so overwhelming. It's
so easy to get to the information that it's you
don't you almost don't have to depend on experts anymore.
And that's why I show like ours is so awesome
(07:09):
to listen to because we're not trying to tell you
we know more than you're. All we're doing is basically
giving you perspective and having a good time with the conversation.
You know, because honestly speaking, if you're looking for the whole,
like breakdown, Q would give you the whole, like I
know my s type of breakdowns you know from time
(07:30):
to time. But you could go to AI and get
the same information he's given you. You can go to
so many different sources and outlets to be able to
get the information where if you can read quickly enough,
if you can type it in quickly enough, and you
could say it with confidence quickly enough, you sound like
you know what you're talking about, even if you're just
(07:51):
regurgitating something that you're reading. So to me, I think
the educational component of sports has really gone up. And
I'll say this, I feel like fantasy football and gambling
all together created the perfect storm to create the want
to do it right. There has to be a want
and a need to do that and be engaged enough
(08:14):
to do it. And I think you know a lot
of times you look at gambling, you look at the
fantasy football factor of it, like could I be a GM,
could I make decisions for a team? Different things like that.
Think it creates a level of like competitiveness and wanting
to know things. So shouts out to those who have
created that want and know, Like you gotta know injuries.
(08:36):
If you're betting, you know, you got to know the information.
If you're you're putting money on the line or you're
building your fantasy football team, like this is common information. Yeah,
and you can tell like I can remember years ago
watching heinz Ward get dinged and then reach down to
feel like his knee or his ankle, and I thought, smart, smart,
(08:58):
that's a smooth move.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Like you just you just you take it in for
so long that you're just acquiring all this knowledge that
you can see the human body going a certain way
and know, oh that that's a that's a concussion Achilles,
that's a concussion, that's an acl So you know, Patrick
Mahomes gets the surgery done by the Cowboys team physician,
gets it done in Dallas, and he's already off and running.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know what else is really different now nowadays, in
this new era of time, is the way we react
to things Like a guy gets his leg mangled. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
see it, give us the replay. Oh we can win
(09:42):
the game now. Like you see a guy get his
head knocked off, you'd be like, yeah, help, right, you
see all these different things that took place back in
the day. Somebody get decapitated on like a blind side
block or chop blocked, and you see his leg just
(10:02):
dislocated from the rest of his body, and we loved it.
This era is so touch sensitive. It's like, somebody gets hit,
it's like, oh my josh, the valance. Somebody gets hurt.
It's like prayer emovis. Oh, I don't understand. Oh the humanity.
(10:31):
I don't understand why this is happening. Why is this happening?
Like people really be crashing out and falling apart over
calamity in sport. No, if you got money on the game,
you don't think, I say, cl to be intact. We yeah,
but there's always been money on the games. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like, there's always been money on
the games. People just like they have been trained and
(10:54):
conditioned to like it's so crazy you see a big
hit in football these days. First of all, it's it's
it's so uncommon anymore to see like big hits in football.
One and then two, it's like when you see them,
it's like you look at the person that delivered the
hit like they're a criminal. Why, oh, that's assault. He
(11:18):
should go to jail for that? Like what wait, hold on?
The one guy got ejected, didn't he get ejected for uh?
Tony Jeffers. I didn't think it was targeting at all.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's that's one of that's that really pissed me. I
can't wait to talk to Dean about that, because I
I don't know that's I mean, that's a whole nother.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I didn't say a whole nother.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's just coming up later.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It's just ridiculous, the whole, the whole targeting. God man,
it's just strange to me. Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's that's really aggravated, strange to me. We do have
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(12:26):
in their next game. Not just what we saw against
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
Philip Rivers will be under center about next week. I mean,
Philip is the start next week? Is that how we
should proceed? Okay, yeah, the starting quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
For him to go out there and do what he
did to put us in a position to win in
a hostile environment after that long of a layoff was
pretty impressive, you know, getting us into the right place,
managing the game. I thought he was phenomenal in that
regard on the sidelines, as a leadership, all those things
that he brings to our team will be beneficial, you know, for.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So that was Shane Styke and the head coach of
the Indianapolis Colts. And my big question is, well, why
wouldn't he be like, at this point, what do you
got to lose? You're already in a tough spot. The
season is slipping away. Clearly whatever you saw in Riley
Leonard was not the answer. So, yeah, you bring Philip
(13:22):
Rivers out of retirement. You know, he restarts his insurance
that you pointed out, and you know, he's got like
fourteen hundred kids, and he's gonna go out there and
he's gonna he's gonna go sling it at home against
the Niners on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's gonna be fun, fun for everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know what what it results in, And I
don't know how he's feeling right now, because it's always
it's never the next day when you go back to
work out for the first time in a long time,
it's two days later. That's a real bitch and a half.
So what do you think he's feeling like right now?
I don't think it's two days and a half at all.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I do think it. I don't think it's the next
day for somebody at his age that has n't. What
do you think his next hour he's like now, Like
I know that Nectar of the Gods is some bad
ass juice. I'll say that, but but I honestly believe, Yeah,
(14:19):
he's he's hurting during the game. He comes into the
game hurting. It's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I if you asked me my opinion on it, that
told me the season was over, told me the season
was over. Like season's over for the Colts. I mean
it's over, like like just just accept we brought in
this old ass player that was retired. He's been retired
for all this time, and he's our best option at
(14:47):
the pro level. At the pro level, done like done
at the quarterback position. Done, Sorry, your season's done. Like
you have you have in your mind you think you're
trying to save your season. In reality you've told everybody
our season is ft done. Yeah, it's closed. Like what
(15:12):
are the conclusion can you come to?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I also think, you know, why the hell not, like,
honest to god, what do you have to lose at
this point? And so I look at it as more
of a this is the same organization that brought Jeff
Saturday off a TV desk to coach a team and
how that season go all right, a little lesson done. Yeah,
But it's also the same organization that's, you know, had
(15:37):
bad luck after bad luck moment when it comes to
the quarterback position to where they've tried so many different
things since Andrew Luck decided to bail, and so like.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, how put that? Don't put that evil on Andrew Lucky?
I mean, I said, like, you know, don't put that
on Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean, Abe Lincoln steps up on the sideline and
tells Jacoby Bris said, hey, I'm out of here. It's
like this is the last preseason game. Season starts in
ten days, and you're out, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Andrew Lucky is myb bro. Yeah, Well, as he's a
twenty two I mean class of twenty two. Well, he's
a college football Hall of Famer. He put the Colts
in a pretty tough spot. So because he's greambling, they've
been scrambling. The trouples themselves in horrible I mean to.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Kobe Brissett, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, Sam Ellinger, like all
of these quarterbacks have been through. And then the guy
they drafted number four overall who was supposed to be
the quarterback of.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
The funeral and I don't even put his name out there.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
The guy got his face caved in by a workout
exercise band that snapped and hit him back in the mouth,
like he literally.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
His face broken. BINX.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
If you're this organization, if you're the culture looking around
going it, yeah, we'll sign Philip Rivers. Let me tell
you something, if you played quarterback in the nineteen twenties,
go get a shovel and dig that guy up too,
Like we got to lose.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hey, go dig the owner while you're at it. Yeah,
I mean you said it. What do you got to lose?
I mean he does. He does have a Super Bowl.
I mean there's no yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I just if I'm the Colts, I'm just looking around going, yeah,
he's going to be the starter. Yes, and and we're,
you know, God willing he can get out there for
the next three games. And it's not like, and here's
the one thing I would say about this, it's not
like Philip Rivers got the soft part of the schedule.
You had to play at Seattle first game back, You've
got the Niners at home, and then you've got Jacksonville
(17:43):
and Houston to close out the year.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, they're playing pretty good. They're all playing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like Houston might be the scar Houston might be the
scariest team in the AFC, Like that might be the
one that you go, yeah, let's try and avoid them,
Like if we could avoid them, that would be And
Philip Rivers has got to deal with all that. So look,
I don't know what this turns into. It does feel
I'm with you, like the season's over over, But at
least it's going to be entertaining on the way.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
If you if for some strange reason, you're a Colts
fan and you feel like you still have a chance
after they made this decision.
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Did you see JJ McCarthy do the gritty when he
read is that what you want to call that?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think that's what it's called. That's what they were
calling it. Yeah, that's not what the gritty looks like. Yeah,
well that's not what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean, he you know, he he.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Gave his interpretation of what I guess that dance.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, and you know, apparently he was told not to
do that in practice, and he did it anyways. And
so his head coach, Kevin O'Connell after the game, you know,
spoke about the celebration going into the end zone and
it sounded like this.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I would say, the finish I would not classify as special.
It was entertaining. That's I guess. We are in the
entertainment business. But I would have preferred him to show
that that forty time that he likes to talk about
having never run a forty coming out, which was unique
to say the least, but as a guy who once
(22:53):
ran a fast forty and couldn't throw it very well.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I can probably.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Understand why quarterbacks are choosing to do that these days.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But yeah, I thought the cell.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I thought the moment, the action, all those things, and uh,
you know, even I knew the play and I knew
what was happening, and the action was so good. I
you know, I even had to take a double take
right there. And it's awesome moment in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Uh, he finished strong. It was cringe all the way
up until till the landing. It was like, oh, oh, oh,
where are you going? Oh oh, okay. He seemed annoyed.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it bothered him. Yeah, Like he seemed annoyed with
the idea that he wanted him to act like he's
been there exactly. And I guess that's the part that
I look at and I don't really I don't understand
why JJ McCarthy doesn't see the overall big picture because
he's Look, he's probably excited. He's played better. He has
(23:54):
played better. That was a really good game for him.
And there's been a lot of people questioning the Viking's
decision to want to go with him and let Sam
Darnold walk and Daniel Jones walk and all the stuff
that comes along with.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It, so weird ass, gritty, non looking, gritty dance going
into the end zone makes all of that, like all
of the bad legitimize and all of the good the
nine out the door, the nine crap, Like he's just
being ego, being sarcastic. You're being serious. I'm being sarcastic,
(24:27):
Like there's no reason to get caught up on the
fact that the dude did a little celebration going into this. Yeah,
I listen.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I don't care so much about the celebration. It's the
fact after all the noise and all the discussion about
like why do you have an alter ego? Why do
you like this isn't going well, It hasn't gone well.
This is way worse than anybody expected it to be.
He was he was instructed not to do it in
practice and still went out in the game and did it.
(24:56):
I can understand why. Kevin O'Connell's like, what do we do?
Like why why why is this happening? Like way to
string a couple of a few games together before you're
out there, you know, going rogue and doing some you know,
candy ass dance into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I just think there's different strokes for different folks, and
if that's how your coach feels, then you have to
be aware and cognizant of what your coach is feeling.
I will say this in twenty twenty five, and I've
said this quite a bit to you, guys. People are
(25:35):
different these days. Guys are very very different. Touched they
touched man. And at the end of it, when you
think about what type of people you're dealing with in
these scenarios, I would much rather support and put wind
(25:58):
in his wings and make him feel like he can
beat the world. I would not do anything that would
place or create any type of doubt in his mind.
If in that moment that's what he felt he wanted
to do, I'm gonna be up in his face like, boom,
(26:20):
hit them shoulder pads, hit the arms, like that's what
I'm talking about, Like, let's keep it going, nine, let's
go nine. Oh gosh, yeah yeah. And you know that
you wouldn't be able to be a good coach. And
I'm gonna tell you why, because if you can't bring
that type of assurance and reassurance and belief value to
(26:43):
your team and to your players, especially your quarterback who
has struggled, then they're probably going to continue to struggle.
They're probably trying to figure out how to find what
the proper you know, level of even play good footing
on what it is that they're doing. And a lot
of it is based off of interpretation. If I see
(27:06):
my coach hyped up and listen, maybe he was. Maybe
he was during the game. I don't, I don't. I
didn't paying attention to it that close, but just listening
to the way he spoke about it, I think he
was speaking with a lot of sarcasms. So I don't
think that it's that big of a deal. But I'm
just saying for the sake of conversation, when you have
a young player, and even if you have an old
(27:26):
head player, like, it's no different than how a jockey
rides a horse like and people may have got you
just compare athletes to a horse, Well, horses. Horses are athletes,
by the way, but you got to know how to
motivate your horse. Some horses are younger, and they're more spry,
(27:47):
they're more like energetic and like ready to go, and
they're up in the gate and it's like come on,
like let's let's get it. Then you got the old
heads that are up in there and they're tourds the end,
and you gotta, like, you gotta cisele them. You got,
you gotta get them pumped up, you got, you gotta,
But you can't do it in a way where they
(28:07):
shoot their gun while they're still waiting to be released
from the gate start the race. It's the same thing
with your players. You gotta know how to handle your players.
If you got a player that's a young, spry player,
then you got to figure out how to get him
running the race the way you need him to run
the race, hit the corners, and then have enough for
for the home stretch to get across the finish line.
(28:30):
You got an old head out there, you gotta know
how to get him motivated enough to stay close and
then really really really push them almost to death to
get you to that finish line to get the results
you're seeking. If you don't have the character traits and
the energy and the IQ balance and in the IQ
(28:52):
of emotions and mental you cannot coach in this day
and age. You cannot. It would be malpractice of coaching.
If you're an old school style coach, f you, you
stupid mother like Brokats ain't going for that these days.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
If you were coaching, since I'm not a good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Coach, said I said that that should be because that
was riddled with racial undertones.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Wow you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, and so am I And you attacked me and
said I couldn't be a good coach, oh gosh, which
and that was full.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Of racial undertones.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Okay, But but the point is he if if somebody,
if you told a player that you were coaching, do
not do this in a game, and they went ahead
and did it afterwards, and then after the game the
player said, yeah, I was told not to do that,
but it just made me want to do it more.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That wouldn't piss you off as a coach. Jaj McCarthy said,
I was more advised to do it. Can we start
Can we start here? Can we start here? Yeah? Why
are you telling him don't do it? He's a pro.
Why are you telling him don't gritty into the into
the end zone?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Because he sucked majority of the season and he's out
there with monikers and aliases and I'm nine and I'm
this and I'm that. Dude, just string together a few
games before we start dancing, like like all and by
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So don't be yourself until you've you've done enough to
be yourself. Yeah, okay, so you're okay with the results
of telling your your starting quarterback to not be himself.
I would like my stary, do you want him to
give you the results of what it would take to
be himself. I would like my starting quarterback to have
(30:46):
enough self awareness to go, hey, before I start eating dessert,
and maybe I should go ahead and eat my dinner
and eat my vegetables, and before I start out there
and start running around with the greed. What what if
your player comes in? What if your player comes in
and does was always what they started with and then
they eat this food after.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So, because he came from Michigan, where he was sort
of a lot of people have assumed along for the ride,
not so much the reason they won, but he was
a guy that was there.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He was a part of the reason why they won. Okay,
I seen him play. I meant he made plays for
them when they needed place. And here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He's shown moments where you're like, all right, Like he
can throw the ball, he's got athleticism like all of
that stuff. But the problem is when you think of
JJ McCarthy this year, here's what you think of nine the.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Gritty, Like, it's just that's what you think of.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You mean to tell me when people when JJ McCarthy
struggles that, people don't pull out the the nine comments like,
it's like that's the part I.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Don't I do not get, but understand this. He's the
starting quarterback for a National Football League team. Sure, he's
going to get scrutiny. The situation, the way he went
out with the injury last year, the way Sam Darnold
played last year, the way he's playing this year. That
(32:15):
team is going to receive scrutiny. That player in particular
is going to receive scrutiny. You can't base what you
do off of what people say about you. You cannot
do things differently based off of what the noise of
criticisms logged your way like you. You can't allow that
(32:39):
to dictate who you are. That's why it's kind of
like for me, I get you like entertained it. You know,
I get that the coach entertained it, but shut it
down because you have a player in development that's trying
to find his way as a young player that could
(33:01):
ultimately hold your job in the literally in his hand
with every single time he's making a decision on the field.
Build him up and defend him and protect him. That's
what you do. Don't baby him. I'm not saying baby him,
(33:22):
which that interpretation isn't for the outside world anyway. But
what you do is you shield your team, not just
one player. You shield your team, and you always make
sure that as a coach, your team knows that they
are what's most important to him, not the media, not
(33:43):
the fans, not anything else. You are my guys, and
I will defend that, and I will protect that. Let's
do this together. If players feel that, especially in twenty
twenty five, if players feel like you can ask, like,
do a survey, go ask random football players in the
(34:04):
National Football League in college if they feel as though
they're in an environment where it's a love environment, where
it's a family environment, where people care about one another environment,
they are going to generally give you a better effort.
You are going to see a better product. The problem is,
(34:27):
we say it but a lot and it's crazy to
watch it play out, but there are a lot of
people that are incapable of being able to create an
environment where guys actually care about one another, where you
actually had your teammates or your players that you coach
(34:48):
feeling as though they matter. Like it's very difficult for
people to be a My kid had us. My kid
this year had a coach that didn't even say hello
to the players, didn't talk to them, didn't build a
relationship on a personal level, total disconnect. Worst I seeing
(35:11):
this defense. Look since I've been watching them play. Worst
I've ever seen Penn State's defense. Look since I've been
watching them play. You have a leader. You have a
leader that doesn't even speak, doesn't even imagine if we
did a show Jonas and I don't even.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Speak to you, Oh god, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay, well let's try it. Damn. Treat you like a
little bitch. Jam Damn, you'll get better. You'll get better
results with sugar than what you will get with vinegar.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And again this is it's not gonna make or break
the guy's career. I just look at it and I go, dude,
can you just wait until we string together some success
before we start dancing and coming up with monikers and aliases? Say, okay,
you don't go to church.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
All right? Every week. No, you shout now because the
war has already been one. Oh man, Yeah, you don't
go to church. Man, it's the holiday season, they say,
Jesus is the reason for the season. Like, man, you
don't even be subscribing. I got news for you. You talking
about wait for Jesus to bring you a miracle before
you dance? Why you dancing before GD? Like, so you're
(36:22):
not a believe You don't believe. What you're basically saying
is I don't believe. Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
There's gonna be plenty of time to go to church
in Minnesota because your Sundays are going to open up
here real quick.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And it doesn't involve the playoffs. So amen.
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coming up in about fifteen minutes from now, we are
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is time for a Tuesday tradition here on this show.
And I do have it on good authority that this
man selected this song. We welcome in the one and
(38:46):
only Dean Blandino. Oh my list shorts, NFL College Football
Rules Analysts. To get him on x at Dean Blandino, Dean,
good morning, No what good morning?
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Hi's LeVar. I kind of agree with you. Yeah, the
intro like it just doesn't feel like Patrick ast me. Hey,
what's your favorite Christmas song? I love that song? All
on on Christmas Darling Love from one of my favorite
Christmas movies.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Love Actually there, hold on, hold on date almost Dan,
Dan back, hold on, we got to do it right,
hold on, Dane, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
Hey, he's Dean Blendino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football Rules Analysts.
He's a Tuesday tradition here on the show. More put
more you can get him on acces. Dean Blendino at
a little bit more raspbier. Watch where you step. That's good,
and watch what you say bring it home? Well, she'll
(39:45):
go away.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We'd have to give you an offer you can't refuse. Dan,
good morning.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Now see now that's better. I hope said the Godfather scene,
just to keep it going.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, that's your favorite Christmas song. It's a good head.
Now we can get into it, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
So I'm curious to see kind of what your thoughts
were on these calls. The Tony Jefferson ejection for the
Chargers that Jim Harborough is talking about, I don't know
what he's supposed to I get the penalty, the ejection
I'm trying to figure out. Also the Tyler shuck slide
(40:27):
at the end of the game against the Panthers that
resulted in a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Where do you land? Where did those land with you?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
As far as penalties, ejections, should they have been called, etc?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Well, I think that Jefferson, it's a foul. I think Look,
we've talked about this, you know, Levars like live this.
You know, as a defensive player and how the rules
have evolved, you can't hit a receiver who's considered defenseless
trying to make a trying to make a catch, can't
hit him in the head. And it was there was
(41:00):
Holme time a contact watching it live watching you know,
even the replace, I didn't think that was a hit
that raised the level of an ejection. I really think
that the aftermaths right where where okay players is injured, uh,
(41:21):
you know, the reaction from the chiefs, all of all
of that I believe kind of factored into him being ejected,
which I'm not I don't necessarily agree with.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know, I think you have to.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Take the hit itself. Was it was it Flay Grant?
Was it agreed?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
No, it was.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
It was a football play. He was trying to make
the hit. He was trying to to this lodge the football.
So I didn't think that was an ejection. I think
if if if he'd get if the receiver, I forget
who it was. But if he get jumps right back
up and goes back to the huddle, I don't think
he's ejected. I think everybody kind of just moves on
(42:00):
the other one. The shut play, and you thought that's
one where look he slid, you got to stay off them.
It's such a big situation in the game, So I
think I think it got got a lot of attention.
Obviously puts them in field goal range to win the game.
But you know when the when the quarterback slides like that,
I thought it was you know, he's literally enough and
and and you got to stay off from you can't
(42:20):
make that contact. And that's one that that one to
me was more on you know, the defender than anything else.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Deed is there because I know that there's been rules
that have been put in place to you know, help
the offense, whether that's set out loud or not. You know,
like you want more scoring the kickoff, like all the
all the things that have been done, has there been
anything done? And I'm asking this seriously to help the
defense to where in conversations during the off season, they're like,
(42:49):
you know what, the defense is really getting the shaft
in this regard, maybe we should do something about, you know,
how how the how offenses are taking advantage of this situation,
Like like, can you think of how the defense has
benefited from a rule change or anything like that in
recent years?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Well, yeah, I think there's there have been certain changes.
Look that there's no question that offensive production, passing, scoring
that the Competition committee. I think that's and that's the reality, right.
I don't think if you ask most football fans, I
don't think they want to see six three games, right,
They'd rather see thirty five thirty one. But I think
(43:26):
maintaining offensive and defensive balance is so important. You want
offenses to be able to put points on the board,
but you can't just have a track meet. Nobody wants
to watch it. Well, whoever gets the ball last is
going to win. There's no drama there, there's no it's
just you got to have that balance. I think there
is have been rules in place as it relates to
certainly low blocks and protecting defensive players from those types
(43:49):
of things, expanding things like chop blocks when it's a
high low block, those types of things. I also think that,
you know, one of the things they got to look at,
and I think they looked at in the past is
offensive pass difference and blocking and picks and those rub
routes and those types of things. So I think there
have been, but ultimately it is it is seen as
(44:11):
more of a when you look at rules changes, you know,
how do we how do we maintain a healthy offense
and sometimes unfortunately the defense becomes an after thought. But
that offensive defensive balance is so important.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So we saw Micah go out with a nasty knee injury.
Would you say when you lose premiere guys like Michael Parsons,
it impacts the excitement going into the game, maybe viewership,
maybe interest level in what's going on when you lose
a Marque player, even if he's a pass rushing guy
(44:45):
on the other side of the ball. Will we will
we say that there's an impact there, no.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Question, no question. We were in the booth. I mean,
we were in the booths for our game. We have
the lines and rams and we you know, we heard
through you know, guys on the crew that Micah. You know,
it looked like it was it was going to be
a significant injury, and everybody was just kind of like
it deflated every You know this because this is a
premiere player. It doesn't matter what side of the ball
they're on. You know, we lost, you know, then you
(45:13):
lose the homes. You lose guys that in our game,
Devantay Adams went down with a hamstring. Doesn't look like
it's going to be it's going to be that that
significant hopefully, but whenever you lose those guys that it
absolutely it diminishes. We have we have Bears Packers Saturday
night and and not having Micah there is a is
(45:33):
a big, big hit to that game.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm glad you said that, Dean, because and and I'm
glad that you mentioned the Bears because Colston Loveland the
tight end. Did you see did you see his monster
block all Males Garrett? Then you saw it?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
How is that praise? And listen, my home hu Ship
Shipley did a whole breakdown on Loveland in the block,
and how beastly of a block it was. And this that,
And you gotta have your head on the swivel in
the NFL, because this is the NFL. No, No, Dean,
(46:17):
enough is enough. If you have a premiere guy on
that side of the ball, there should be the same
type of action taken to protect those guys. This guy
is on pace to snap destroy the single season sack record.
(46:37):
And imagine if what happened to Micah happens to Miles
Garrett because he's getting obliterated by a chip block. This
wasn't even I don't even call that a chip block
because it's just a blind side block. I mean he
came down on him. It's a blind side block. I'm
(46:58):
so sick and tired of this not being discussed more
that guys are just left out and not to mention
when they come around that edge. I'm seeing so much hugging, tackling,
pulling for everyone that we see get called dean. They
(47:20):
are not calling these penalties on these guys that are
holding and pulling these guys, and for what is worth
to a civilian. They don't realize what that feels like
to be moving that fast, or moving with that type
of torque and power, and a three hundred pound plus
man that's over six foot five is pulling on you
(47:43):
and grabbing on you and hugging on you while you're
trying to continue to run. If you can't comprehend it,
it's very difficult to say how egregious this is to
watch it taking place. I'm sorry I got in my feelings,
but it's just I see so much of it.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
Do you you need to go look in the mirror
with some positive affirmations. I mean, we can we can
talk through that.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I need to get that out. I need it. I
needed this session.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, you're not a one trick and you're here to
help and all that.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
I believe me, I've been off. I agree with you.
Could not agree with you more when you talk about those.
And that was one of the things, like we're talking about, okay,
rules that we'll put in to protect the defense is
the blind side block, and and and and Typically when
that rule went in, it was more like out in space,
it was the punt return, it was those changing direction place.
(48:38):
But that's happening some of those, like you said, whether
it's a chip block or some of these wham blocks
or whatever you want to call them, they are coming
from the blind side. You can't protect yourself. One of
the things that that you know, I think they need
to look at doesn't happen all that often. We talked
about chop blocks earlier. When I'm engaged high right, you
can't cut me at at the at the at the
(49:00):
fig or below because I can't protect myself. Well, same
thing with a chip block. You know, where I'm engaged,
I'm trying to come off the edge and then this
guy just comes from the side and knocks the crap
out of me. That's a defenseless player. When you're talking
about my focus isn't on this player that's coming across
and making contact with me. So I think the league
needs to look at that. And absolutely, if you imagine,
(49:21):
I mean we were all, I mean miles like you said, mouth,
he has an incredible chance to break the sack record,
and for to lose him right now on a hit
like that would be I think that would not be
good for the league. And that's something definitely the committee
who needs to look at going forward.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Dean, before I let you go, you got any holiday
pet Peeves? Is there anything that really pisses you off
this time of year? Could be a food item, people's
manners when they're going shopping, Traffic. Is there anything that
just rubs you the wrong way?
Speaker 5 (49:52):
I mean, I traffic. I am my worst version of
myself when I'm in the car.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh no, it's not like you're a New Yorker too.
Speaker 5 (50:03):
I am a New Yorker. I am. I don't I've
never ever I made a pack. I don't honk unless
it's a safety issue.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
You talk to him, though, Oh but I will.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
I will, like just and I'm not even like a
big like flip of the bird, like not even that.
I just the other day yeah, I know I've taken
a tack now where I like, where it's more, I
feel like it's more impactful. Where I act disappointed, just
like I give like a thumbs down, I'll give him
like a thumb down, like shake my head like it's
(50:36):
just more like you're just moron. And I'm not even
going to get mad, but I'm just so disappointed. I mean,
it's not hard, just signal, just give give me, give
me a blinker, give me something like, you know, pick
a lane, like it's not hard.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
My son's four, and I was driving around with him
and I do the same thing, and I just it
wasn't even that big.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Of a deal.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
But I was just annoyed and I just drove by
and looked at somebody and just shook my head and discuss.
And my son says to me, he goes, Papa, why'd
you shake your head? And I had no good answer.
It's like, yeah, you're right, I probably shouldn't have done that,
but it's just you're in your car and you just
you lose it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Man.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Well, I had my youngest, my youngest he was probably
about six or seven at the time, and one time
he just goes down. He goes it just seems like
you're the only one out there that knows how to drive.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
I'm like that, Yeah, that's right. Well, yea and my
daughter both rolled down the window and start at mother
fing them. Yeah, we do it together with that, and
I say, this is the only time you're allowed to
do this is when you're with dad home. Don't ever
do this on your own.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
It's a good move.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, I'll teach them my mom. You know, you got
to properly be road raging if you're going to do it. Uh, Dean,
we appreciate.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Are you going to be in Chicago for the game
this Saturday or where are you going to be at?
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Well, actually I'm not going to be the crew will
be in Chicago. I'm doing CFP games Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Nice big time now, Yeah, so excited about that.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Get him on x at Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL
College Football Rules analyst.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Always appreciate it. Let's do it again next week. Both there.
He is the great Dean Blandino.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
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You got that off your chest. Man, think I feel
like we both backed up the defense on that interview,
like we were trying to state our case for the
defense there.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
So got to protect the guys. Man, you have to.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
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