October 31, 2025 • 45 mins
Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn react to the Ravens beating the Dolphins on Thursday night and explain why Mike McDaniel only has a few days left in Miami. Brady breaks down the weekend in college football with the latest edition of Quinn's Wins. Plus, the guys make their Week 9 picks against the spread!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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last tape being a badpire Damn. You can change songs,
but you can't change who you are player. Now I'm
starting to realize you're a real bassist. You know what
I mean. It's messed up, man.
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One surprise was Disney and ABC not on YouTube TV.
So I just saw that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Another one of those.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Huh, another one of those, And couldn't come in a
worse time given everything coming up tonight tomorrow in college football.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Turned the heart Rock into a horror house last night.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Damn horror or or.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Horror.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
More horror than before, more horror than before. Yeah, boy,
the Dolphins are bad. Oh boy, Now you.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Weren't saying that after they beat Atlanta though, No, I
ain't saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And now I know why Baltimore was a seven and
a half point favorite on a short week on the road.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now I get it. I thank my apologies.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to apologize sense now it makes perfect sense
because that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I hate I mean, I never called for anybody's job,
but I just guess that's where I'm at like mentally
and emotionally right now. And I was sitting there, I
was like, Man, is he going to make it through
the night? Are they are they? Are they going to
announce sometime during the evening that that they let him go?
And are they letting to it go right along? They
(02:59):
let to it go right along with him? I be hell,
who else add to the list? It was like a
blank list, fill in the blank. You can't even be wrong.
It didn't look good at all, That's all I would say.
I mean, we could go into the details. I'm sure
Q could break down the details of what you saw,
but well.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean it looked that they're they're banged up at
running back. We saw that Devon a Chang has to
kind of carry the load for them, which is not
the worst thing in the world. Everyone deals with injuries,
but it's not the best thing. I would say. There
was a play on the fourth and two before the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
End of the first half.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What was that That play kind of epitomized what their
season has become?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What did they go for it?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, well, it's not even that's not on the same page.
And this is something where I just kind of look
at the decision by Tua and I go, that's just
not a matchup you're gonna work. You've got Devon a
Chain working against Kyle Hamilton and a Chan who you
know is a running back. He stands at five foot nine.
(04:07):
Kyle Hamilton's like six foot four, six foot five, and
he's actually a really good coverage player like he is
on Baltimore and he's in that position playing Manda man
coverage with an all out blitz. So it's going to
force to it to throw the football and two kind
of lobs it to the end zone and Devon h
Chang just kind of doesn't really run the route, but
(04:28):
the ball should be going in there anyway, Like if
this isn't Like we're out in the open field and
you give him the chance to run for fifty or
sixty yards because of his speed and he outruns Hamilton,
You're you're too close. There's the back of the end
zone there, like none of that plays to your advantage.
And you could see Mike McDaniel's reaction like, oh yeah,
(04:48):
like that's.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Where you went with the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it is truly.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
His facial expression after.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Because he was like, of all the places you're going
with the football, could avoid it, like, that's not that's
not how the plays designed. That's not where we designed
to throw the football in this situation. And I just
that's summarizes their season so far. Like it's it's a
combination of they get things going, they get down there,
they probably could have taken three points that in the
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at the end, it wouldn't matter, not the way Baltimore
played in second half. But it's it's those decisions combined
with just the matchups kind of who's there. It just
none of it works out, and to is as culpable
as anyone else, even though I do think he's a
good system fit for Mike McDaniel. I mean, you watch
the rhythm they get in at times, how they move
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the ball, and you're like, man, this works.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
They were moving the ball.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's just there's.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Something missing, man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Because there's something missing with all this, they stink.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
There was a there was a game a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It was a Thursday night game when Zach Wilson was
still with the Jets, and it took one play and
the crowd completely turned like, oh.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Here we go again.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It was have been like the smallest play and incomplete
pass or whatever and I'm watching that. I think it
was against the Jaguars, and I'm watching that going all
this team's got no shot, not that they had one
coming into the game, but the vibe of the crowd,
the energy of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Every mistake, they're just like, oh my god, what else
do we need to say? Yeah, worse than the second half,
just like the miss are cutting out a holes and popcorn.
It's like it was just it was getting all out bad.
The missfield goal.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You know, they're going forward on on fourth and one
and there's a procedure penalty and they come back and
and to see and then Mike McDaniel is like, I
don't know that I've ever seen him that visibly upset.
And when you get a guy like that, who you know,
walks around dressed up as a pothead even when it's
(06:51):
not Halloween hips and it looks too and you see
the emotions and just sort of the despair. It's like,
all right, he's feeling it too. He knows this thing's
coming to an unre and it just feels like that's
that crowd in the second half when it was just
looking around going what is this.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What are we watching here? But on the other side
of it, you get Lamar Jackson back. You see the
difference in the team when Lamar Jackson is back. This
was a win that they needed to get. They now
keep pace and are in position to kind of make
a move on on that odds favorite to win the
AFC North. They're a different team. I mean, captain obvious,
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they're a different team with Lamar Jackson on the field,
and I think it makes it better for them, But
it ultimately says to me, we still don't know. We
don't know if Lamar Jackson in this Baltimore Ravens team
with that defense, because they did that defense was not
(07:55):
a very different defense. I'll say this, I don't know
if it was more Miami. They couldn't finish off drives.
I mean the the turnover, but wasn't there a turno
that wasn't a turnover? They missed a field goal or
wasn't a turnover.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
If there's anything that happen in an NFL game, it
happened for the Dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean, I just didn't I just couldn't understand how
they could move the ball down the field so easily
and then just their drives continue to die at the
end and they kept putting it. They missed the field goal.
That was the first one. First the first quarter. They
missed one the first drive. I felt like they turned
it over on the first drive. But I'm a little
there's the second one. It was the second one.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, I just it's like crapping your pants for the
two hundred time. At what point are you like.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You remember that one time? No? No, yeah, just kind
of all blends together. That's what that game was. Did
you you still do it to this day? Huh no,
I'm over it's at least how long? How long until
you stopped having accidents in your pads? Honestly? Like, be honest, is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
This why you don't need food? Is this why you
try to do the whole intermittent fast?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Don't try, don't try to jog around the answer, like
when's the last time you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Talk about your pants all the time? Much answer the question.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And we ended up landing a depends rey for for Q.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's good because with you what when the bro they
told me they asked you to do it and you
avoided it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I have not and I want to go on record
because I'm a professional. I think this is worth talking about.
I have not crapped my pants since wearing you pull up.
Definitely in the last year. Okay, I mean that's that's safe.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, definitely. What does vampire s look like anyway? Is
it the same as as people s? Yeah? I mean
is it like crap? Is it right? Is it like
little little balls? Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Blood remnants of skin? You went down the wrong road,
but you asked the question moving on, you want to
just make it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, yeah, right, that's what you're eating. You're using
that as fuel. Why would you crap it out? You
got to get rid of the waist, but there's no more.
I'm not going to do it. But Loraina does it
to me at least once a show. I'm not going
to do that. So you you set her up at
(10:19):
that moment.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Surprised you want to go down the show because you've
got a weak stomach I do, and a real game.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's ridiculous, ridiculous, So I'm surprised you want to go down.
I'm surprised you went down that rope.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, I'm just saying it's everything that could have gone
wrong and the fact that it all played out last night, like.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Do you want to hear Tua. Do you want to
hear Tua post why?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Here's a here's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Tua talking about the reaction and the vibe of the
locker room post game.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We had a pretty heartfelt conversation in there after after
the game. After that that conversation, you know, I feel
like guys are going to go away, They're going to
do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But when we come back on Monday, you know, we're
ready to work.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah. He sounds like more like a coach than a player.
He's got like that coaching twaang to to his voice,
like he should be a head football coach versus being
a quarterback. I don't know, he just, you know, like
certain coaches, like you know, they had that you gotta
have that that southern type of twain, you know what
I mean, Like it'll sound like a coach. Yeah, he
(11:24):
sounds like a coach. I like Tua, and it's sad
that they're in the situation that they're in because it
looks so promising for for a moment there. I mean
Mike McDaniel, he he kind of evolved. He went from
being like the kid in the principal's office to like
the kid that's driving down ocean and a ferrari and
(11:46):
everybody's looking at him, and he's now the cool kid.
I mean, everything worked out the way it was supposed
to for a time, just doesn't say just doesn't seem
right anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't want this to go too far, but remember
during COVID, when there's you can get those ppp you know,
loans and all that stuff out during that time, you
know what happened. There's some people out there where you'd
see a young kid driving around this like ridiculously flashy, caring.
(12:17):
You're like, what the hell did you get the money
for that? And then you realize the kid got arrested
because he basically put in some sort of fraudulent ppp uh,
you know, paperwork to get alone from the government. And
it's kind of looks like that.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know. It's kind of it's kind of like, all right,
well this was.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Fun, but didn't Josh Bellamy do that? Didn't he get
popped for that? The former NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
People did a lot to not point out NFL players
because there's so many people who were not NFL players
that did it. Jonas, So let's just not victimize the
NFL players who did it. To Vegas are the only
the only example you give is an NFL player that's
really like countless people.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That check was coming out. There were lines Big Baby
Davis did it. I think there, Yeah he did. He
did time off of it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There were only professional athletes, and there's a trend.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
There were the longest lines outside of like the Gucci
stores and Louis stores, and people was getting burking bags
and all kinds of stuff like like in Vegas. It
was crazy. But don't worry. They wiped them down with
sanitizer after they and they was letting them come in
there and spend that money to knowing where that money
was coming from. Is their money. Yeah, you turn it down,
(13:35):
their money. They got to pay it back and take
this bag it's missing. We'll get it back some way, somehow,
We'll get it back.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's all one it's all one circle. It just keeps
going around down.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And that was the Miami Dolphins going around in the badge.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So what I'm saying it was like and they finally
are like, oh wait a second, this guy, he shouldn't
be getting this money.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Do you believe that? Mike McDaniels. Mike McDaniel last the
year or do you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Think if he has another do they have any more?
You know in two.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Weeks, well well not primetime, but in two weeks they
play Madrid.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I believe that is a standalone game. Who did the play?
I have to go back to this schedule.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Talked about this yesterday, but Commanders, we talked about there
we go.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Go go cue. No. I was just gonna say we
kind of touched on this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's a really tough you know, schedule the rest away
or not should say the rest away. But they're they're,
you know, next so many games. It ain't gonna be easy.
And and so that's where I kind of just go.
If it continues to look really poor offensively, like that's
the thing about the you know, they play Atlanta, they
have this offensive explosure going all right, Like at least
(14:57):
that's still there last night. I mean, the Even's defense
is struggled, and then just between the fumbles, the turnover
on downs, just the miscommunication with stuff, a missfield goal,
nothing could go right. And I think if you start
seeing the offense even struggle to get some points, and
that's Mike McDaniel's calling card, then I think it maybe
goes in a different direction, and it would be shocked
(15:19):
if it wasn't after that game in Madrid, because there's
I believe, a bye afterwards. So you have additional time.
You've got the opportunity to prepare for a really poor
Saints team than a Jets team that's in the division
that's bad. It kind of just sets up for whoever's
next to give you a little bit of hope.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I mean, plus you get one last trip to Spain
paid for by the team, and then you get clipped.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You made an interesting observation and it was Jonas Jonas
Jonas shocking interesting, not in a great way. But you
know this time you kind of you know, the sunshine
on a blind dog's Yeah, so you said it was
visible on on the coach's face, on Mike McDaniel's face,
(16:06):
and you know, just going through what I just seen
take place at Penn State, you know, maybe the worst
thing that he could have done is not have a
poker face on the sideline, like because if you got
sometimes everybody else you want to know what the kiss
of death is is when the coach is visibly shook,
(16:29):
when their shape shaken up. It's it's you gotta believe
that the decision makers are looking at it like the
leader of the team is visibly on the sideline shook up.
If he's in I didn't see his postgame interview, but
if he's in his postgame interview and he just looks
(16:50):
as though he shook up, like Bro I was with
coach Coach Franklin. I interviewed him the week before the
the UCLA game, and it was just I felt bad,
like he just looked like it was starting to take
(17:11):
a toll on him, like the pressure. And and sure
enough that next game against UCLA, the players look the
same exact way. And so when people sit there and
they say, oh, well they shouldn't have did anything, or
da da dae, like what like Bro, I was there.
I was on that sideline. And while I'll be the
(17:34):
first one to always advocate and speak highly of coach Franklin,
it's more so to me, if you're asking my estimation
on it, it's more so the fact that him, as
the leader of that team, was visibly shook up by
what was taking place, and the team followed suit right
(17:57):
along with them. So you're watching dudes walk off the field,
Dudes got their hands on their hips like like perplexed looks.
It was like you felt like something really bad was
going on. Like the energy and the vibe was really
really the morale was low. And I feel like I
(18:19):
saw that on the sideline with Mike last night. That
is the kiss of depth. If you ask me, you
want to know what puts the target on you, The
bullseye for management to take action on removing you is
when you look like you've you're visibly almost defeated or defeated.
I've never seen him that upset. It looked bad, bro,
(18:41):
It looked bad, like like, Okay, it's a bad pass,
you miss, you miss field goals, you miss bad plays
or bad plays happen. It's it's a part of the game.
You you buck up, you you regroup, and you get
back at it. But when you look like the way
that he looked, Ultimately, that energy is what's circulating through
(19:03):
those players. It's circulating through that locker room, through those
meeting rooms, through the other coaches. Like it looked like
looks of desperation, disappointment, maybe maybe giving up. You know,
I don't want to say quitting, but man, like, hey,
can it get any worse than this? You know, like
when you feel like you've hit rock bottom? Can can
(19:24):
it get any worse than this? I don't know, man,
That to me, that could be the observation that really
really is the kiss of death for him and his
coaching tenure at Miami. Yeah. Not great, not at all.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
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Speaker 3 (19:52):
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those cheeks, yeah, spread them on. Make sure you can
keep spreading them, you know, because if you don't get
them spread it for one time, then something else going
to creep up, and then you don't want that. You
don't want to get that tip drill go ahead, man,
(20:14):
good point, go ahead. Yeah, that is a That was
a really really good music video. By the way, I.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Was just telling this story last night. I don't know
how we got on this story, but so it was
my sophomore year of college.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I want to say, maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Junior and my TV parents came up or bt bro,
my parents came up, and I think like they they
got me a hotel room, which yeah, we got They
got a hotel for themselves and got me a hotel room.
And so like that Saturday night after the game, I'm like,
I wake up and the TV's on and it's playing that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I believe it was Nelly, right, So yeah, but you
could only play it after dark.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And I'll say the lyrics, I believe I can say
this at this hour and I can say this, but
I believe it was something along the lines of it
must be your ass because it ain't your face, I
need a tip drill.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah you could do that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Interesting, but that's what they said that.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That was the lyrics. And I never heard the song before,
you know what?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And it was probably the video truth was wild.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Like I was looking at the ass in that video.
It was like it was soft core porn. It was.
It was literally it was wild for b E. T.
Young cut well and that was I was like, it
was cut. Are they allowed to do this on like
cable television at this hour? Now? Everybody does it now?
Now it's right, but that was some years ago. Yeah yeah,
(21:43):
oh yeah, man, that was tip drills, b us because
it ain't your face, and he was right, and it's okay.
I couldn't go back to sleep. I was sitting there.
I was like, man, this is wild, am I missing
out on tip drills? Like what's happening right now? Your
ass out does your face? That is that's an ass
and you got to give that ass respect. That's all right,
(22:07):
it's all right. Many dudes will tell you if your
face is average, but you got a banging body, you're
gonna get You're gonna get away with it. You just
can't have both be jacked up. If your if your bottom,
if your body's jacked up and your face is jacked up,
like me, like me, I deal with that. If you
if you jacked up that way, you had better have
a great personality and you have better hope that people
(22:30):
are okay with getting to know you before they cast
a judgement. If your face, your ass better be getting
an A plus.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You know, raise like most kids today don't even know
what a tip trill is. You know, it's it's a
damn shame. Dang you use that vernacular. Well, what's the
cringe you were saying. That's cringe like these kids don't
even know what a tip trill is.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
WHOA Okay, then well I do know this. You know
about the hollerino. It's a football Friday. All right, okay,
turn it on there you go, Wow.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Fridays tip drilling at tip drill, barn, tip drink this
tip drill start Friday's tip.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Drill Friday, tip drill Friday. Somebody was watching the game
and the strip. There's no one the tip drill, the
tip drill, the tip drill. What tip drill brill? Wa
tip drill rill. Let's do the tip drill, dude, the
tip drill, tipper, tipper, tipper, temper for the tip drill,
(23:39):
for the trip drill drip. All right, come on, let's
do it for Eddie. Let's do it for a boy, Eddie, Teddy.
This one for you, baby. Friday night, a pall Friday,
the fall Friday, tip drill, timper.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Tip drill, timper, home clam it keep a's name outshr.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
F and mouth.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
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Speaker 2 (25:01):
Quick recap of Week nine in college football.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I got some teams that really aren't trying to help
me out here, all right? Iowa State collapses versus BYU.
Bet throws a pick six, another interception the fourth that
one doesn't cover. Apparently Minnesota decided not to show up.
I would just kick their ass can these West Coast
teams play on the East Coast?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Don't ask UCLA. They sure can't show up and do it.
And what about my guy Alex Golish and USF up
thirty one seventeen into the fourth and they collapse, giving
up seventeen points to lose thirty one thirty four. Yeah,
so two and four last week, rough week twenty one,
twenty nine to two on the season. You know what
(25:46):
that means? More bets? All Right, there's only one way
to get out of a hole, and that's uh, well,
it's you can't you can't keep digging now you actually
try to find a way of just churning butter and
getting up out of this thing. It starts off in
the big ten. I use headed out to Maryland. Who
anyone who's been listening to this knows they are my
cover team of the season. They're five to two against
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the spread this year. And here's an interesting little note
about Indiana. Indiana is why I played two games on
the road this season, barely beating Iowa if you'll recall
that game was tight till the very end of it,
and then obviously a great win over Oregon the best
win of the season, but they're averaging only twenty five
points per game on the road. They're averaging over fifty
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at home, and also defensively, they're giving up over twice
as many points on the road. So I think Maryland
at plus twenty one at our good friends at DraftKings
keeps this one within the number. Better team than people
are giving Maryland credit. But I still think I you
obviously wins. Indiana wins this one, but I do think
Maryland gets the cover. So take the points. Next up,
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you will see headed to Link and the take on
the newly extended Matt Rule and the corn Huskers. But
I'm laying the points there, folks. You will see minus
four and a half coming off the buy too much power,
too much talent on the outside. I don't think this
one's even going to be close. Next up in the SEC,
we just talked about him, Clark Lee and Vandy. They
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head to Austin take on Texas. There's some uncertainty about
whether or not Arch plays in this game. Whether he
does or doesn't, It's been a gauntlet for Vandy.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
To get through.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They lost to Bama a few weeks ago, had their
big wins over LSU and then Missou at home. Now
they go back on the road to Austin. I think
that Texas defense keeps PAVIA in check. You lay the
three points with Texas there, and I also think Arch
probably ends up playing this game even not I think
Texas is going to be able to run the football
and take care of business.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Next up the U.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They're headed to Dallas to take on SMU head coach
RT Lashly for SMU a former m assistant, and he's
going to know a thing or two about what he's
going up against. And this is an SMU team that
can get after it with their pass rushers. The problem
they're going up against one of the best offensive lines
in the country in Miami, and SMU is actually the
worst defense in the ACC, given up over three hundred
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yards per game. I think Carson Beck has a field
day and that pass rush for Miami gets after SMU
lay the ten and a half points with the Hurricanes.
Next up a battle in the AAC. One of the
most fun teams to watch. If you have not watched
North Texas find a way. This offense is so much fun.
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It's the number one scoring offense in North Texas in
the AAC. They can absolutely put up points, and they
put up a lot of yards through the air. Their quarterback,
Drew Messtamaker, one of the best stories in college football.
I don't think you can started varsity his senior year.
He's a converted athlete into becoming a quarterback. Through over
six hundred yards last week. Maybe Well, they're the twelfth
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best pass defense in the AAC. They're gonna have some
matchup issues. Lay the seven points with North Texas next up.
He used to call it the biggest cocktail party Georgia,
Florida in Jacksonville. I think they did away with that
for some reason. But the playoff, this one's actually not
one on the spread. It's actually on the under of
fifteen and a half. Two good defenses. I think it's
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gonna be a lowrist scoring affair between these two, both
them allowing twenty or few points per game. So take
the under of fifteen and a half there in Jacksonville.
And next up Notre Dame laying twenty eight and a half,
headed to Boston to take on BC. BC stinks. It's
a rivalry game. Notre Dame is going to continue to impress.
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Just lay the points, all right, just lay the points
in this one. Next up in the ACC CAL they're
hosting Uva, who has been playing with fire the past
four games, all one score games. Uva just kind of
hanging on to that chance of playing in the ACC
championship game. I think Cal, justin will Cox in a
more of a defensive mind. I think they keep this
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one close again, East Coast team going all the way west.
Col's getting five and a half. Here, go with Cal
the five and a half points. I think another tight
game for UVA, and dare I call the ups that outright?
And then finally the big one, Ohio State hosting Penn State.
Penn State obviously a shell of itself. Look, this Ohio
State team has been really, really good against the spread
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this year. There's six and one. I also love a
low scoring game here. I think if you look at
what Penn State's done the past couple of weeks, trying
to run the football against Northwestern Iowa, probably limiting the
amount of touches this Ohio State offense gets. But the
spread is nineteen and a half. Sorry, var you gotta
lay the nineteen and a half points here. I just
think Penn State's gonna have a hard time scoring versus
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Ohio State, and I think Ohio State's gonna make enough
big plays to cover that number. So they're your picks
for week ten.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Whins Whens.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
They're welcome, right. I guess I can open up my
Saturday then I go sit on the beach. Well, you're
not coming to the game. I mean that kind of
gives us some indication of this. You know, that's not
why I'm not coming though. Oh that's not what come saying.
I did. I did want to and I almost did,
but I just need to stay in this.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
This weekend it was twenty one, so there was twenty
one and a half. It's gone down to nineteen and
a half.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
So I wonder why that is a little more optimism
there for for Penn State.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Maybe maybe, Yeah, there's alway, there's always a lot of
line movement between like Thursday night and Friday morning. You
know that that Indiana Maryland spread that maybe moved half
a point, USC Nebraska moved a point and a half,
ut Vany moved half a point.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I'm trying to think of some others I do respect
and like the approach. You know, last week didn't go
well f it double it up and this, well, do.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You ever play craps? It's kind of a betting intensive game.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Man. You get down, you just gotta gotta keep betting more.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's just the we're doing volume here, though not not necessarily,
you know, dollar amount putting volume.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And this feels like this is the week that will
determine whether or not this is a a season in
the win column or maybe not for Quinn's wins. This
feels like this is a real typic.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh, we got some others. I mean I may bet
every single game coming by my week. You know, by
week twelve of college football.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That Indiana Maryland game is going to be a fun
game to watch. You're gonna learn a lot about what
type of team Maryland is. I think LOCKX does an
amazing job and I love their quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Defensively, I always felt like butt Zone two was, you know,
if you could disguise it right. Maryland does too. Defensively.
I was watching some of their games, some of their
games tape, like earlier this week, with the shell of it.
If you can disguise pre snap it always will get quarterbacks,
in particular because you're always trapping too, you know, so
you get those quick throws because you feel the pressure,
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and then you've got a corner who's just sitting kind
of waiting, watching, baiting you to throw into that. And
I don't know, it would be interesting to see how
how I you if IU runs the football. That's where
you know, I think Marylyn can have some issues.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You got to stop the run for some mendoza and
then try to take your chances that way.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I think it's going to be a fun weekend like this,
is that Rubber meets the Row weekend of slate, slate
of games. I mean, we're going to obviously have rivalry
weekends coming up pretty soon as well, But I just
think that's some some teams this weekend there their seasons
are going to be defined one way or the other
this week When do you think Hawaii you might make
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it into Quinn's wins for the first time ever? It
may come down to the last resort. I put it
that way.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I trusting, I'm not I'm not avoiding them because I
don't want to pick them. I'm avoiding them because I
don't want because I don't want you to have to
talk about Hawaii. Blah blah, blah. I mean, I just
no one cares. No one cares about your Hawaii rainbow wards.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Tokyo to.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Huh, we can say Matsuyama. I believe I pronounced the
last name correct. Might have butchered that one, but uh
yeah he probably did. Yeah, he guy has missed kick.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You want me to talk about You want me to
talk about field goal kicking?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I mean I would say the quarterback there, but he's
you know, there's there's been some issues there.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
But they're in for the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
They got absolutely their doors blown off by Arizona earlier
this year. I remember that they're their Their best one
was the win over Stanford, which, mind you, it's tough
watching those Stanford games because they keep showing Andrew Luck
on the sideline as the general manager. And last week
there it was seven seven versus Miami and then Miami
just beat the crap out of them, and I just
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keep going like, ah, maybe you don't show him quite
as much, you know, like this isn't this isn't where
they'll be and give him like three or four years,
they'll be in a better spot. You know, that's the
But also, why is he gonna lose this week. Uh, well,
probably not the Santa probably not to Santose State.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
But they'll they'll lose. They'll for sure lose at UNLV And.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I don't know, Ken, I want to correct myself there,
Matsuzawa one more time.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I'm sorry, Ken, say Matsuzawa the tokyo.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, his celebration after he makes a kick is the
Otani swing. I'm just telling you, man, keep an eye
out for Hawaii and our friends.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Uh listening on.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the way, LeVar, did you notice how Jonas likes
to bring up my my college record. He didn't say
anything about the NFL where he's you know, he's sub
five hundred.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Hey, I'm supportive. I don't kick a man when he's down.
I support you. I actually, what do you mean? I
actually bet a lot of the game's Brady picks. I
support my friends.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Five lines, not those kind of lines, five picks, five spreads.
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Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
All right, Bursch, how how bad are these guys? Last week.
How bad was our record?
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Well, everybody did poorly last week. Jonas, you went one
and four, LeVar, Brady, you went too and four. A
couple of games you guys were unanimous on that didn't
go your way. Everybody was on the Cowboys plus three
and a half against the Broncos that that did not happen.
And everyone was on the Commanders plus twelve and a
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half against the Chiefs and that did not happen. So
that's too bad rough week. That's okay, that happens.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Wait, so, Bursch, how's Jonas doing for the year.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Bursch, Well, overall, Jonas is twenty and twenty two.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Knox locks.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
LeVar.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
LeVar is twenty eight and twenty five. I'm still about
five hundred, yeah, and Brady is thirty two and fifteen.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Quinn swear you'll be a winner.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
That's a lot.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, it's a six eighty one win percent. She's very strong, so.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
She said, ye whoa.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Well there, the nickel and dime money line approach is
paying off dividends all rights.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
See how we're doing this. Just better, pick better.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Stop being a looser.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, just pick better, bro.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
All right, let's get to our first matchup this week,
Viking said, Lions. That's right. Uh, the Lions are favored
minus eight and a half at home here. Jonas will
start with you.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'll take the Lions. JJ McCarthy's back, Uh, not that
you know. Well, look but he hasn't he hasn't played
a lot, and so there's health, there's rust. I just
I feel like Detroit's kind of on a little bit
of a heater here, and so I'll take I'll take
the Lions.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Here the knocks locks.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
What is it again, burs?
Speaker 8 (37:56):
It's an eight and a half, the Lion's favorite eight
and a half.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Eight and a half half? Where are they playing in Detroit?
In Detroit? I'm gonna take Vikings on the points as
what did you? Is there over on this or something?
Or are we are we just going to picks? I forget,
I'm mixing them up here. It's picks against the spread. Yeah,
so I'm taking Yeah, I'm taking the Vikings two minutes.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
It sticks picks.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Number looks too big to me. Maybe they're factoring in.
JAJ McCarthy first start a little concerned divisional game with
that number being as big as it is. But it's
making me lean towards Detroit, so I'm gonna lay the
points with Detroit.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
When's Whens?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
What is that a dropper?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Lorenokang, do it live, baby, We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Wow, We'll do a laugh.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Okay, al right, next one here, COLTSI Steelers. Colts are
the road favorites here minus the three. Bolt's favored by three.
Brady will start with you.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
The defense has struggled for Pittsburgh. Too tough place to play, though,
I don't know the Colts A dome team an into
our team. I'm gonna take the three points in Pittsburgh.
I know they've struggled defensively. Offensively, though, I think we'll
be able to make enough plays to cover this number.
So I'll take the three points in.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
Pitt Twins wins, Tang, LaVar, how you feel it going.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I'm going to money line the Steelers sticks picks. I'll
take Pittsburgh plus three.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I think Mike Tomlin and Tara Austin have basically called
out the defense for the final time. The problem there
has not been anything on the offensive side of the
ball for the first time in a long time. Everything's
been about the defense. I think they rally. I think
they respon. I think they're probably still gonna lose this game,
just not by more than two and a half.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Knocks locks, all right, next one up.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Here, Falcons hit Patriots.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Patriots favored at home minus five and a half. LeVar
will start with you, Patriots favored minus five and a
half at home.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I'm gonna take the points with with the Falcons sticks picks, Brady,
how are you feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I'm feeling like New England is a team that var
has underestimated the entire season. Didn't didn't think they would
finish well right now, they're one of the top teams
in the AFC. Drake May is playing atn MVP level.
Quick question though, can you can you win the MVP
if you're not throwing for over three undred yards? It's
kind of an interesting stat But believe I'm gonna lay
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the five and a half points with the Patriots here
at home.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
All right, Jonas, I'm gonna take Atlanta plus five and
a half. I see this as a potential bounce back spot.
They can't possibly be as bad as they were against
Miami last week, and I'm gonna work under the assumption
that Michael Pennix Junior will be back in the starting
lineup for them. So I'm gonna take the Falcons getting
the five.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
And a half Knox Locks.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
All right?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Game four, Chiefs said, Bills.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yes, what we're doing that one too? So yes, Chiefs, Oh.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Wait this one Broncos at Texas.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
There, let's see Broncos at Texans. We'll save the Chiefs
Bills for last. Texans favored minus one and a half
at home, Jonas, we'll start with you.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I'll take Houston. I think they're going to go two
in a row here.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I'm not completely sold on the Denver Broncos, like a
lot of people are, but I think Houston is gonna
uh for some reason. I liked them last week against
the Niners. I couldn't even pick a reason why. And
I'm gonna go the same route this week, and I
believe the line is the same one and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I'll take the Texans at home.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Knocks.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
What is it again?
Speaker 8 (42:17):
It is a Texans minus one and a half at
home against who against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
The Texans, I don't understand how they're favored it in
this game at home. I'm obviously I still don't see
how they're favored it. I'm going money line with this
one as well.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, half point, give them the money line? So what
at some it's a one and a half?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
What are you complaining about it? Then you do it? Right?
What are you complaining? What are you complaining about it?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Extra?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Why? Why? Why should you get why?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Why?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
It's a one and a half point spread?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Okay, they're they're an underdog, right, and you do it?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Then stop picking Houston.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You're you're saying we sub five hundred to say whole underdog?
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
You're getting an extra point for a one and a
half point underdog?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Are they the underdog? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
All right, Well, when you guys are ready to take
the training wheels off, let me know, we'll go right.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, we'll go together, and you'll still be a loser.
I'll also go Denver money line here, mostly because Jonas
is being a whiny bitch.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There you go, you little whyo bissy day Jonas. It's
not like it's only a one way street. Yeah. I'm
not some candy ass gambler. I get the real just
a terrible gambler.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
All right, Well, let's see what happens with this last one.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Hit the button again, Lorena Chief said, bill.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Well, then guess what this is? The one and a
half point spread as well. Chiefs are favored on the
road at minus one and a half in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm gonna start this off. Give me Buffalo money line.
Take that, Jonas another one and a half points spread.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Twins wins, Yeah, LeVar, you can.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I'm going to take the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
To cover man sticks picks.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I'm trying to get I'm trying to climb back into
this thing a brush.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I'm a real sports better, all right, not like these
phonies and frauds that I work with. I'm a real
sports better. Give me the bills on the money line lost.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
There you go, give me that extra credit. Finally decided
to join the party. Huh all right, good for you,
all right now because of that?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah yeah, probably, Yeah, that's some death sentence for them
now now thanks Jonas Tang.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Jonas has picked the money line before, did you mine the.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Bears had the money line before? Yeah, didn't work out
for him, or maybe it did, I think ever since no,
he lost he lost it. That was an I'll find it.
I was misquoted. Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Because remember some of the accounting was a little off
early in.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
The It wasn't off. It wasn't off. It was just
the way Lee did it.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yikes, all right, it is two pros and a cup
of joe here on. So LeVar, Arrington, Brady, Quinn Jones
money line.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
The Chiefs over the Eagles in week two.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Week two.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
It was a one naf point spread in that game as.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Well, the same exact spread that right now also spreads.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Really get you.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
He also lost that one along with you, LeVar, So
there you go, all right, whatever, And that was a
safe bet.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
It was definitely a safe one at the time. It
is what it is.
This is the best of two pros and a couple
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
I want to hear your scream.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Last day bar Why because this songs stinks, not your
last tape being a badpire Damn. You can change songs,
but you can't change who you are player. Now I'm
starting to realize you're a real bassist. You know what
I mean. It's messed up, man.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
One surprise was Disney and ABC not on YouTube TV.
So I just saw that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Another one of those.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Huh, another one of those, And couldn't come in a
worse time given everything coming up tonight tomorrow in college football.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Turned the heart Rock into a horror house last night.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Damn horror or or.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Horror.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
More horror than before, more horror than before. Yeah, boy,
the Dolphins are bad. Oh boy, Now you.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Weren't saying that after they beat Atlanta though, No, I
ain't saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And now I know why Baltimore was a seven and
a half point favorite on a short week on the road.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now I get it. I thank my apologies.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to apologize sense now it makes perfect sense
because that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I hate I mean, I never called for anybody's job,
but I just guess that's where I'm at like mentally
and emotionally right now. And I was sitting there, I
was like, Man, is he going to make it through
the night? Are they are they? Are they going to
announce sometime during the evening that that they let him go?
And are they letting to it go right along? They
(02:59):
let to it go right along with him? I be hell,
who else add to the list? It was like a
blank list, fill in the blank. You can't even be wrong.
It didn't look good at all, That's all I would say.
I mean, we could go into the details. I'm sure
Q could break down the details of what you saw,
but well.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean it looked that they're they're banged up at
running back. We saw that Devon a Chang has to
kind of carry the load for them, which is not
the worst thing in the world. Everyone deals with injuries,
but it's not the best thing. I would say. There
was a play on the fourth and two before the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
End of the first half.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What was that That play kind of epitomized what their
season has become?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What did they go for it?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, well, it's not even that's not on the same page.
And this is something where I just kind of look
at the decision by Tua and I go, that's just
not a matchup you're gonna work. You've got Devon a
Chain working against Kyle Hamilton and a Chan who you
know is a running back. He stands at five foot nine.
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Kyle Hamilton's like six foot four, six foot five, and
he's actually a really good coverage player like he is
on Baltimore and he's in that position playing Manda man
coverage with an all out blitz. So it's going to
force to it to throw the football and two kind
of lobs it to the end zone and Devon h
Chang just kind of doesn't really run the route, but
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the ball should be going in there anyway, Like if
this isn't Like we're out in the open field and
you give him the chance to run for fifty or
sixty yards because of his speed and he outruns Hamilton,
You're you're too close. There's the back of the end
zone there, like none of that plays to your advantage.
And you could see Mike McDaniel's reaction like, oh yeah,
(04:48):
like that's.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Where you went with the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it is truly.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
His facial expression after.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Because he was like, of all the places you're going
with the football, could avoid it, like, that's not that's
not how the plays designed. That's not where we designed
to throw the football in this situation. And I just
that's summarizes their season so far. Like it's it's a
combination of they get things going, they get down there,
they probably could have taken three points that in the
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at the end, it wouldn't matter, not the way Baltimore
played in second half. But it's it's those decisions combined
with just the matchups kind of who's there. It just
none of it works out, and to is as culpable
as anyone else, even though I do think he's a
good system fit for Mike McDaniel. I mean, you watch
the rhythm they get in at times, how they move
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the ball, and you're like, man, this works.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
They were moving the ball.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's just there's.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Something missing, man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Because there's something missing with all this, they stink.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
There was a there was a game a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It was a Thursday night game when Zach Wilson was
still with the Jets, and it took one play and
the crowd completely turned like, oh.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Here we go again.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It was have been like the smallest play and incomplete
pass or whatever and I'm watching that. I think it
was against the Jaguars, and I'm watching that going all
this team's got no shot, not that they had one
coming into the game, but the vibe of the crowd,
the energy of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Every mistake, they're just like, oh my god, what else
do we need to say? Yeah, worse than the second half,
just like the miss are cutting out a holes and popcorn.
It's like it was just it was getting all out bad.
The missfield goal.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You know, they're going forward on on fourth and one
and there's a procedure penalty and they come back and
and to see and then Mike McDaniel is like, I
don't know that I've ever seen him that visibly upset.
And when you get a guy like that, who you know,
walks around dressed up as a pothead even when it's
(06:51):
not Halloween hips and it looks too and you see
the emotions and just sort of the despair. It's like,
all right, he's feeling it too. He knows this thing's
coming to an unre and it just feels like that's
that crowd in the second half when it was just
looking around going what is this.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What are we watching here? But on the other side
of it, you get Lamar Jackson back. You see the
difference in the team when Lamar Jackson is back. This
was a win that they needed to get. They now
keep pace and are in position to kind of make
a move on on that odds favorite to win the
AFC North. They're a different team. I mean, captain obvious,
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they're a different team with Lamar Jackson on the field,
and I think it makes it better for them, But
it ultimately says to me, we still don't know. We
don't know if Lamar Jackson in this Baltimore Ravens team
with that defense, because they did that defense was not
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a very different defense. I'll say this, I don't know
if it was more Miami. They couldn't finish off drives.
I mean the the turnover, but wasn't there a turno
that wasn't a turnover? They missed a field goal or
wasn't a turnover.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
If there's anything that happen in an NFL game, it
happened for the Dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean, I just didn't I just couldn't understand how
they could move the ball down the field so easily
and then just their drives continue to die at the
end and they kept putting it. They missed the field goal.
That was the first one. First the first quarter. They
missed one the first drive. I felt like they turned
it over on the first drive. But I'm a little
there's the second one. It was the second one.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, I just it's like crapping your pants for the
two hundred time. At what point are you like.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You remember that one time? No? No, yeah, just kind
of all blends together. That's what that game was. Did
you you still do it to this day? Huh no,
I'm over it's at least how long? How long until
you stopped having accidents in your pads? Honestly? Like, be honest, is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
This why you don't need food? Is this why you
try to do the whole intermittent fast?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Don't try, don't try to jog around the answer, like
when's the last time you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Talk about your pants all the time? Much answer the question.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And we ended up landing a depends rey for for Q.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's good because with you what when the bro they
told me they asked you to do it and you
avoided it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I have not and I want to go on record
because I'm a professional. I think this is worth talking about.
I have not crapped my pants since wearing you pull up.
Definitely in the last year. Okay, I mean that's that's safe.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, definitely. What does vampire s look like anyway? Is
it the same as as people s? Yeah? I mean
is it like crap? Is it right? Is it like
little little balls? Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Blood remnants of skin? You went down the wrong road,
but you asked the question moving on, you want to
just make it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, yeah, right, that's what you're eating. You're using
that as fuel. Why would you crap it out? You
got to get rid of the waist, but there's no more.
I'm not going to do it. But Loraina does it
to me at least once a show. I'm not going
to do that. So you you set her up at
(10:19):
that moment.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Surprised you want to go down the show because you've
got a weak stomach I do, and a real game.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's ridiculous, ridiculous, So I'm surprised you want to go down.
I'm surprised you went down that rope.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, I'm just saying it's everything that could have gone
wrong and the fact that it all played out last night, like.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Do you want to hear Tua. Do you want to
hear Tua post why?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Here's a here's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Tua talking about the reaction and the vibe of the
locker room post game.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We had a pretty heartfelt conversation in there after after
the game. After that that conversation, you know, I feel
like guys are going to go away, They're going to
do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But when we come back on Monday, you know, we're
ready to work.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah. He sounds like more like a coach than a player.
He's got like that coaching twaang to to his voice,
like he should be a head football coach versus being
a quarterback. I don't know, he just, you know, like
certain coaches, like you know, they had that you gotta
have that that southern type of twain, you know what
I mean, Like it'll sound like a coach. Yeah, he
(11:24):
sounds like a coach. I like Tua, and it's sad
that they're in the situation that they're in because it
looks so promising for for a moment there. I mean
Mike McDaniel, he he kind of evolved. He went from
being like the kid in the principal's office to like
the kid that's driving down ocean and a ferrari and
(11:46):
everybody's looking at him, and he's now the cool kid.
I mean, everything worked out the way it was supposed
to for a time, just doesn't say just doesn't seem
right anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't want this to go too far, but remember
during COVID, when there's you can get those ppp you know,
loans and all that stuff out during that time, you
know what happened. There's some people out there where you'd
see a young kid driving around this like ridiculously flashy, caring.
(12:17):
You're like, what the hell did you get the money
for that? And then you realize the kid got arrested
because he basically put in some sort of fraudulent ppp uh,
you know, paperwork to get alone from the government. And
it's kind of looks like that.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know. It's kind of it's kind of like, all right,
well this was.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Fun, but didn't Josh Bellamy do that? Didn't he get
popped for that? The former NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
People did a lot to not point out NFL players
because there's so many people who were not NFL players
that did it. Jonas, So let's just not victimize the
NFL players who did it. To Vegas are the only
the only example you give is an NFL player that's
really like countless people.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That check was coming out. There were lines Big Baby
Davis did it. I think there, Yeah he did. He
did time off of it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There were only professional athletes, and there's a trend.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
There were the longest lines outside of like the Gucci
stores and Louis stores, and people was getting burking bags
and all kinds of stuff like like in Vegas. It
was crazy. But don't worry. They wiped them down with
sanitizer after they and they was letting them come in
there and spend that money to knowing where that money
was coming from. Is their money. Yeah, you turn it down,
(13:35):
their money. They got to pay it back and take
this bag it's missing. We'll get it back some way, somehow,
We'll get it back.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's all one it's all one circle. It just keeps
going around down.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And that was the Miami Dolphins going around in the badge.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So what I'm saying it was like and they finally
are like, oh wait a second, this guy, he shouldn't
be getting this money.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Do you believe that? Mike McDaniels. Mike McDaniel last the
year or do you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Think if he has another do they have any more?
You know in two.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Weeks, well well not primetime, but in two weeks they
play Madrid.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I believe that is a standalone game. Who did the play?
I have to go back to this schedule.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Talked about this yesterday, but Commanders, we talked about there
we go.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Go go cue. No. I was just gonna say we
kind of touched on this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's a really tough you know, schedule the rest away
or not should say the rest away. But they're they're,
you know, next so many games. It ain't gonna be easy.
And and so that's where I kind of just go.
If it continues to look really poor offensively, like that's
the thing about the you know, they play Atlanta, they
have this offensive explosure going all right, Like at least
(14:57):
that's still there last night. I mean, the Even's defense
is struggled, and then just between the fumbles, the turnover
on downs, just the miscommunication with stuff, a missfield goal,
nothing could go right. And I think if you start
seeing the offense even struggle to get some points, and
that's Mike McDaniel's calling card, then I think it maybe
goes in a different direction, and it would be shocked
(15:19):
if it wasn't after that game in Madrid, because there's
I believe, a bye afterwards. So you have additional time.
You've got the opportunity to prepare for a really poor
Saints team than a Jets team that's in the division
that's bad. It kind of just sets up for whoever's
next to give you a little bit of hope.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I mean, plus you get one last trip to Spain
paid for by the team, and then you get clipped.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You made an interesting observation and it was Jonas Jonas
Jonas shocking interesting, not in a great way. But you
know this time you kind of you know, the sunshine
on a blind dog's Yeah, so you said it was
visible on on the coach's face, on Mike McDaniel's face,
(16:06):
and you know, just going through what I just seen
take place at Penn State, you know, maybe the worst
thing that he could have done is not have a
poker face on the sideline, like because if you got
sometimes everybody else you want to know what the kiss
of death is is when the coach is visibly shook,
(16:29):
when their shape shaken up. It's it's you gotta believe
that the decision makers are looking at it like the
leader of the team is visibly on the sideline shook up.
If he's in I didn't see his postgame interview, but
if he's in his postgame interview and he just looks
(16:50):
as though he shook up, like Bro I was with
coach Coach Franklin. I interviewed him the week before the
the UCLA game, and it was just I felt bad,
like he just looked like it was starting to take
(17:11):
a toll on him, like the pressure. And and sure
enough that next game against UCLA, the players look the
same exact way. And so when people sit there and
they say, oh, well they shouldn't have did anything, or
da da dae, like what like Bro, I was there.
I was on that sideline. And while I'll be the
(17:34):
first one to always advocate and speak highly of coach Franklin,
it's more so to me, if you're asking my estimation
on it, it's more so the fact that him, as
the leader of that team, was visibly shook up by
what was taking place, and the team followed suit right
(17:57):
along with them. So you're watching dudes walk off the field,
Dudes got their hands on their hips like like perplexed looks.
It was like you felt like something really bad was
going on. Like the energy and the vibe was really
really the morale was low. And I feel like I
(18:19):
saw that on the sideline with Mike last night. That
is the kiss of depth. If you ask me, you
want to know what puts the target on you, The
bullseye for management to take action on removing you is
when you look like you've you're visibly almost defeated or defeated.
I've never seen him that upset. It looked bad, bro,
(18:41):
It looked bad, like like, Okay, it's a bad pass,
you miss, you miss field goals, you miss bad plays
or bad plays happen. It's it's a part of the game.
You you buck up, you you regroup, and you get
back at it. But when you look like the way
that he looked, Ultimately, that energy is what's circulating through
(19:03):
those players. It's circulating through that locker room, through those
meeting rooms, through the other coaches. Like it looked like
looks of desperation, disappointment, maybe maybe giving up. You know,
I don't want to say quitting, but man, like, hey,
can it get any worse than this? You know, like
when you feel like you've hit rock bottom? Can can
(19:24):
it get any worse than this? I don't know, man,
That to me, that could be the observation that really
really is the kiss of death for him and his
coaching tenure at Miami. Yeah. Not great, not at all.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
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Speaker 3 (19:52):
Learn more at depend dot com. By the way, things
are bigger than football, man. Yeah, make sure you get
your booty checked out. Man, honestly, that's right. It spread
those cheeks, yeah, spread them on. Make sure you can
keep spreading them, you know, because if you don't get
them spread it for one time, then something else going
to creep up, and then you don't want that. You
don't want to get that tip drill go ahead, man,
(20:14):
good point, go ahead. Yeah, that is a That was
a really really good music video. By the way, I.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Was just telling this story last night. I don't know
how we got on this story, but so it was
my sophomore year of college.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I want to say, maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Junior and my TV parents came up or bt bro,
my parents came up, and I think like they they
got me a hotel room, which yeah, we got They
got a hotel for themselves and got me a hotel room.
And so like that Saturday night after the game, I'm like,
I wake up and the TV's on and it's playing that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I believe it was Nelly, right, So yeah, but you
could only play it after dark.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And I'll say the lyrics, I believe I can say
this at this hour and I can say this, but
I believe it was something along the lines of it
must be your ass because it ain't your face, I
need a tip drill.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah you could do that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Interesting, but that's what they said that.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That was the lyrics. And I never heard the song before,
you know what?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And it was probably the video truth was wild.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Like I was looking at the ass in that video.
It was like it was soft core porn. It was.
It was literally it was wild for b E. T.
Young cut well and that was I was like, it
was cut. Are they allowed to do this on like
cable television at this hour? Now? Everybody does it now?
Now it's right, but that was some years ago. Yeah yeah,
(21:43):
oh yeah, man, that was tip drills, b us because
it ain't your face, and he was right, and it's okay.
I couldn't go back to sleep. I was sitting there.
I was like, man, this is wild, am I missing
out on tip drills? Like what's happening right now? Your
ass out does your face? That is that's an ass
and you got to give that ass respect. That's all right,
(22:07):
it's all right. Many dudes will tell you if your
face is average, but you got a banging body, you're
gonna get You're gonna get away with it. You just
can't have both be jacked up. If your if your bottom,
if your body's jacked up and your face is jacked up,
like me, like me, I deal with that. If you
if you jacked up that way, you had better have
a great personality and you have better hope that people
(22:30):
are okay with getting to know you before they cast
a judgement. If your face, your ass better be getting
an A plus.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You know, raise like most kids today don't even know
what a tip trill is. You know, it's it's a
damn shame. Dang you use that vernacular. Well, what's the
cringe you were saying. That's cringe like these kids don't
even know what a tip trill is.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
WHOA Okay, then well I do know this. You know
about the hollerino. It's a football Friday. All right, okay,
turn it on there you go, Wow.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Fridays tip drilling at tip drill, barn, tip drink this
tip drill start Friday's tip.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Drill Friday, tip drill Friday. Somebody was watching the game
and the strip. There's no one the tip drill, the
tip drill, the tip drill. What tip drill brill? Wa
tip drill rill. Let's do the tip drill, dude, the
tip drill, tipper, tipper, tipper, temper for the tip drill,
(23:39):
for the trip drill drip. All right, come on, let's
do it for Eddie. Let's do it for a boy, Eddie, Teddy.
This one for you, baby. Friday night, a pall Friday,
the fall Friday, tip drill, timper.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Tip drill, timper, home clam it keep a's name outshr.
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Quick recap of Week nine in college football.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I got some teams that really aren't trying to help
me out here, all right? Iowa State collapses versus BYU.
Bet throws a pick six, another interception the fourth that
one doesn't cover. Apparently Minnesota decided not to show up.
I would just kick their ass can these West Coast
teams play on the East Coast?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Don't ask UCLA. They sure can't show up and do it.
And what about my guy Alex Golish and USF up
thirty one seventeen into the fourth and they collapse, giving
up seventeen points to lose thirty one thirty four. Yeah,
so two and four last week, rough week twenty one,
twenty nine to two on the season. You know what
(25:46):
that means? More bets? All Right, there's only one way
to get out of a hole, and that's uh, well,
it's you can't you can't keep digging now you actually
try to find a way of just churning butter and
getting up out of this thing. It starts off in
the big ten. I use headed out to Maryland. Who
anyone who's been listening to this knows they are my
cover team of the season. They're five to two against
(26:07):
the spread this year. And here's an interesting little note
about Indiana. Indiana is why I played two games on
the road this season, barely beating Iowa if you'll recall
that game was tight till the very end of it,
and then obviously a great win over Oregon the best
win of the season, but they're averaging only twenty five
points per game on the road. They're averaging over fifty
(26:28):
at home, and also defensively, they're giving up over twice
as many points on the road. So I think Maryland
at plus twenty one at our good friends at DraftKings
keeps this one within the number. Better team than people
are giving Maryland credit. But I still think I you
obviously wins. Indiana wins this one, but I do think
Maryland gets the cover. So take the points. Next up,
(26:50):
you will see headed to Link and the take on
the newly extended Matt Rule and the corn Huskers. But
I'm laying the points there, folks. You will see minus
four and a half coming off the buy too much power,
too much talent on the outside. I don't think this
one's even going to be close. Next up in the SEC,
we just talked about him, Clark Lee and Vandy. They
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head to Austin take on Texas. There's some uncertainty about
whether or not Arch plays in this game. Whether he
does or doesn't, It's been a gauntlet for Vandy.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
To get through.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They lost to Bama a few weeks ago, had their
big wins over LSU and then Missou at home. Now
they go back on the road to Austin. I think
that Texas defense keeps PAVIA in check. You lay the
three points with Texas there, and I also think Arch
probably ends up playing this game even not I think
Texas is going to be able to run the football
and take care of business.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Next up the U.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They're headed to Dallas to take on SMU head coach
RT Lashly for SMU a former m assistant, and he's
going to know a thing or two about what he's
going up against. And this is an SMU team that
can get after it with their pass rushers. The problem
they're going up against one of the best offensive lines
in the country in Miami, and SMU is actually the
worst defense in the ACC, given up over three hundred
(28:02):
yards per game. I think Carson Beck has a field
day and that pass rush for Miami gets after SMU
lay the ten and a half points with the Hurricanes.
Next up a battle in the AAC. One of the
most fun teams to watch. If you have not watched
North Texas find a way. This offense is so much fun.
(28:23):
It's the number one scoring offense in North Texas in
the AAC. They can absolutely put up points, and they
put up a lot of yards through the air. Their quarterback,
Drew Messtamaker, one of the best stories in college football.
I don't think you can started varsity his senior year.
He's a converted athlete into becoming a quarterback. Through over
six hundred yards last week. Maybe Well, they're the twelfth
(28:45):
best pass defense in the AAC. They're gonna have some
matchup issues. Lay the seven points with North Texas next up.
He used to call it the biggest cocktail party Georgia,
Florida in Jacksonville. I think they did away with that
for some reason. But the playoff, this one's actually not
one on the spread. It's actually on the under of
fifteen and a half. Two good defenses. I think it's
(29:05):
gonna be a lowrist scoring affair between these two, both
them allowing twenty or few points per game. So take
the under of fifteen and a half there in Jacksonville.
And next up Notre Dame laying twenty eight and a half,
headed to Boston to take on BC. BC stinks. It's
a rivalry game. Notre Dame is going to continue to impress.
(29:26):
Just lay the points, all right, just lay the points
in this one. Next up in the ACC CAL they're
hosting Uva, who has been playing with fire the past
four games, all one score games. Uva just kind of
hanging on to that chance of playing in the ACC
championship game. I think Cal, justin will Cox in a
more of a defensive mind. I think they keep this
(29:47):
one close again, East Coast team going all the way west.
Col's getting five and a half. Here, go with Cal
the five and a half points. I think another tight
game for UVA, and dare I call the ups that outright?
And then finally the big one, Ohio State hosting Penn State.
Penn State obviously a shell of itself. Look, this Ohio
State team has been really, really good against the spread
(30:09):
this year. There's six and one. I also love a
low scoring game here. I think if you look at
what Penn State's done the past couple of weeks, trying
to run the football against Northwestern Iowa, probably limiting the
amount of touches this Ohio State offense gets. But the
spread is nineteen and a half. Sorry, var you gotta
lay the nineteen and a half points here. I just
think Penn State's gonna have a hard time scoring versus
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Ohio State, and I think Ohio State's gonna make enough
big plays to cover that number. So they're your picks
for week ten.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Whins Whens.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
They're welcome, right. I guess I can open up my
Saturday then I go sit on the beach. Well, you're
not coming to the game. I mean that kind of
gives us some indication of this. You know, that's not
why I'm not coming though. Oh that's not what come saying.
I did. I did want to and I almost did,
but I just need to stay in this.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
This weekend it was twenty one, so there was twenty
one and a half. It's gone down to nineteen and
a half.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
So I wonder why that is a little more optimism
there for for Penn State.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Maybe maybe, Yeah, there's alway, there's always a lot of
line movement between like Thursday night and Friday morning. You
know that that Indiana Maryland spread that maybe moved half
a point, USC Nebraska moved a point and a half,
ut Vany moved half a point.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I'm trying to think of some others I do respect
and like the approach. You know, last week didn't go
well f it double it up and this, well, do.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You ever play craps? It's kind of a betting intensive game.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Man. You get down, you just gotta gotta keep betting more.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's just the we're doing volume here, though not not necessarily,
you know, dollar amount putting volume.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And this feels like this is the week that will
determine whether or not this is a a season in
the win column or maybe not for Quinn's wins. This
feels like this is a real typic.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh, we got some others. I mean I may bet
every single game coming by my week. You know, by
week twelve of college football.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That Indiana Maryland game is going to be a fun
game to watch. You're gonna learn a lot about what
type of team Maryland is. I think LOCKX does an
amazing job and I love their quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Defensively, I always felt like butt Zone two was, you know,
if you could disguise it right. Maryland does too. Defensively.
I was watching some of their games, some of their
games tape, like earlier this week, with the shell of it.
If you can disguise pre snap it always will get quarterbacks,
in particular because you're always trapping too, you know, so
you get those quick throws because you feel the pressure,
(32:50):
and then you've got a corner who's just sitting kind
of waiting, watching, baiting you to throw into that. And
I don't know, it would be interesting to see how
how I you if IU runs the football. That's where
you know, I think Marylyn can have some issues.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You got to stop the run for some mendoza and
then try to take your chances that way.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I think it's going to be a fun weekend like this,
is that Rubber meets the Row weekend of slate, slate
of games. I mean, we're going to obviously have rivalry
weekends coming up pretty soon as well, But I just
think that's some some teams this weekend there their seasons
are going to be defined one way or the other
this week When do you think Hawaii you might make
(33:31):
it into Quinn's wins for the first time ever? It
may come down to the last resort. I put it
that way.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I trusting, I'm not I'm not avoiding them because I
don't want to pick them. I'm avoiding them because I
don't want because I don't want you to have to
talk about Hawaii. Blah blah, blah. I mean, I just
no one cares. No one cares about your Hawaii rainbow wards.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Tokyo to.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Huh, we can say Matsuyama. I believe I pronounced the
last name correct. Might have butchered that one, but uh
yeah he probably did. Yeah, he guy has missed kick.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You want me to talk about You want me to
talk about field goal kicking?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I mean I would say the quarterback there, but he's
you know, there's there's been some issues there.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
But they're in for the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
They got absolutely their doors blown off by Arizona earlier
this year. I remember that they're their Their best one
was the win over Stanford, which, mind you, it's tough
watching those Stanford games because they keep showing Andrew Luck
on the sideline as the general manager. And last week
there it was seven seven versus Miami and then Miami
just beat the crap out of them, and I just
(34:38):
keep going like, ah, maybe you don't show him quite
as much, you know, like this isn't this isn't where
they'll be and give him like three or four years,
they'll be in a better spot. You know, that's the
But also, why is he gonna lose this week. Uh, well,
probably not the Santa probably not to Santose State.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
But they'll they'll lose. They'll for sure lose at UNLV And.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I don't know, Ken, I want to correct myself there,
Matsuzawa one more time.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I'm sorry, Ken, say Matsuzawa the tokyo.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, his celebration after he makes a kick is the
Otani swing. I'm just telling you, man, keep an eye
out for Hawaii and our friends.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Uh listening on.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the way, LeVar, did you notice how Jonas likes
to bring up my my college record. He didn't say
anything about the NFL where he's you know, he's sub
five hundred.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Hey, I'm supportive. I don't kick a man when he's down.
I support you. I actually, what do you mean? I
actually bet a lot of the game's Brady picks. I
support my friends.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Five lines, not those kind of lines, five picks, five spreads.
(35:56):
Time for picks against the spread.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
All right, Bursch, how how bad are these guys? Last week.
How bad was our record?
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Well, everybody did poorly last week. Jonas, you went one
and four, LeVar, Brady, you went too and four. A
couple of games you guys were unanimous on that didn't
go your way. Everybody was on the Cowboys plus three
and a half against the Broncos that that did not happen.
And everyone was on the Commanders plus twelve and a
(36:24):
half against the Chiefs and that did not happen. So
that's too bad rough week. That's okay, that happens.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Wait, so, Bursch, how's Jonas doing for the year.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Bursch, Well, overall, Jonas is twenty and twenty two.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Knox locks.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
LeVar.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
LeVar is twenty eight and twenty five. I'm still about
five hundred, yeah, and Brady is thirty two and fifteen.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Quinn swear you'll be a winner.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
That's a lot.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, it's a six eighty one win percent. She's very strong, so.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
She said, ye whoa.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Well there, the nickel and dime money line approach is
paying off dividends all rights.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
See how we're doing this. Just better, pick better.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Stop being a looser.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, just pick better, bro.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
All right, let's get to our first matchup this week,
Viking said, Lions. That's right. Uh, the Lions are favored
minus eight and a half at home here. Jonas will
start with you.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'll take the Lions. JJ McCarthy's back, Uh, not that
you know. Well, look but he hasn't he hasn't played
a lot, and so there's health, there's rust. I just
I feel like Detroit's kind of on a little bit
of a heater here, and so I'll take I'll take
the Lions.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Here the knocks locks.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
What is it again, burs?
Speaker 8 (37:56):
It's an eight and a half, the Lion's favorite eight
and a half.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Eight and a half half? Where are they playing in Detroit?
In Detroit? I'm gonna take Vikings on the points as
what did you? Is there over on this or something?
Or are we are we just going to picks? I forget,
I'm mixing them up here. It's picks against the spread. Yeah,
so I'm taking Yeah, I'm taking the Vikings two minutes.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
It sticks picks.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Number looks too big to me. Maybe they're factoring in.
JAJ McCarthy first start a little concerned divisional game with
that number being as big as it is. But it's
making me lean towards Detroit, so I'm gonna lay the
points with Detroit.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
When's Whens?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
What is that a dropper?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Lorenokang, do it live, baby, We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Wow, We'll do a laugh.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Okay, al right, next one here, COLTSI Steelers. Colts are
the road favorites here minus the three. Bolt's favored by three.
Brady will start with you.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
The defense has struggled for Pittsburgh. Too tough place to play, though,
I don't know the Colts A dome team an into
our team. I'm gonna take the three points in Pittsburgh.
I know they've struggled defensively. Offensively, though, I think we'll
be able to make enough plays to cover this number.
So I'll take the three points in.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
Pitt Twins wins, Tang, LaVar, how you feel it going.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I'm going to money line the Steelers sticks picks. I'll
take Pittsburgh plus three.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I think Mike Tomlin and Tara Austin have basically called
out the defense for the final time. The problem there
has not been anything on the offensive side of the
ball for the first time in a long time. Everything's
been about the defense. I think they rally. I think
they respon. I think they're probably still gonna lose this game,
just not by more than two and a half.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Knocks locks, all right, next one up.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Here, Falcons hit Patriots.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Patriots favored at home minus five and a half. LeVar
will start with you, Patriots favored minus five and a
half at home.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I'm gonna take the points with with the Falcons sticks picks, Brady,
how are you feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I'm feeling like New England is a team that var
has underestimated the entire season. Didn't didn't think they would
finish well right now, they're one of the top teams
in the AFC. Drake May is playing atn MVP level.
Quick question though, can you can you win the MVP
if you're not throwing for over three undred yards? It's
kind of an interesting stat But believe I'm gonna lay
(40:57):
the five and a half points with the Patriots here
at home.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
All right, Jonas, I'm gonna take Atlanta plus five and
a half. I see this as a potential bounce back spot.
They can't possibly be as bad as they were against
Miami last week, and I'm gonna work under the assumption
that Michael Pennix Junior will be back in the starting
lineup for them. So I'm gonna take the Falcons getting
the five.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
And a half Knox Locks.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
All right?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Game four, Chiefs said, Bills.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yes, what we're doing that one too? So yes, Chiefs, Oh.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Wait this one Broncos at Texas.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
There, let's see Broncos at Texans. We'll save the Chiefs
Bills for last. Texans favored minus one and a half
at home, Jonas, we'll start with you.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I'll take Houston. I think they're going to go two
in a row here.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I'm not completely sold on the Denver Broncos, like a
lot of people are, but I think Houston is gonna
uh for some reason. I liked them last week against
the Niners. I couldn't even pick a reason why. And
I'm gonna go the same route this week, and I
believe the line is the same one and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I'll take the Texans at home.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Knocks.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
What is it again?
Speaker 8 (42:17):
It is a Texans minus one and a half at
home against who against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
The Texans, I don't understand how they're favored it in
this game at home. I'm obviously I still don't see
how they're favored it. I'm going money line with this
one as well.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, half point, give them the money line? So what
at some it's a one and a half?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
What are you complaining about it? Then you do it? Right?
What are you complaining? What are you complaining about it?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Extra?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Why? Why? Why should you get why?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Why?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
It's a one and a half point spread?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Okay, they're they're an underdog, right, and you do it?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Then stop picking Houston.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You're you're saying we sub five hundred to say whole underdog?
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
You're getting an extra point for a one and a
half point underdog?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Are they the underdog? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
All right, Well, when you guys are ready to take
the training wheels off, let me know, we'll go right.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, we'll go together, and you'll still be a loser.
I'll also go Denver money line here, mostly because Jonas
is being a whiny bitch.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There you go, you little whyo bissy day Jonas. It's
not like it's only a one way street. Yeah. I'm
not some candy ass gambler. I get the real just
a terrible gambler.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
All right, Well, let's see what happens with this last one.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Hit the button again, Lorena Chief said, bill.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Well, then guess what this is? The one and a
half point spread as well. Chiefs are favored on the
road at minus one and a half in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm gonna start this off. Give me Buffalo money line.
Take that, Jonas another one and a half points spread.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Twins wins, Yeah, LeVar, you can.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I'm going to take the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
To cover man sticks picks.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I'm trying to get I'm trying to climb back into
this thing a brush.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I'm a real sports better, all right, not like these
phonies and frauds that I work with. I'm a real
sports better. Give me the bills on the money line lost.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
There you go, give me that extra credit. Finally decided
to join the party. Huh all right, good for you,
all right now because of that?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah yeah, probably, Yeah, that's some death sentence for them
now now thanks Jonas Tang.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Jonas has picked the money line before, did you mine the.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Bears had the money line before? Yeah, didn't work out
for him, or maybe it did, I think ever since no,
he lost he lost it. That was an I'll find it.
I was misquoted. Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Because remember some of the accounting was a little off
early in.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
The It wasn't off. It wasn't off. It was just
the way Lee did it.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yikes, all right, it is two pros and a cup
of joe here on. So LeVar, Arrington, Brady, Quinn Jones
money line.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
The Chiefs over the Eagles in week two.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Week two.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
It was a one naf point spread in that game as.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Well, the same exact spread that right now also spreads.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Really get you.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
He also lost that one along with you, LeVar, So
there you go, all right, whatever, And that was a
safe bet.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
It was definitely a safe one at the time. It
is what it is.
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