Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap some double barrel action from MNF. The latest edition of the BQ Top 15 and a weekly visit from NFL columnist Pete Prisco.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar Arrington, Rady Win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And away we go.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Two pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks with you live from
the tire rack dot Com studios.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Tire rack dot com.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
We'll help you get there, an unmatched selection, fast free shipping,
free road has a protection and over ten thousand recommended
installers tire rac dot com, the way tire buying should
be and a lot of conversation. Following the debut of
Double Barrel Action on Monday Night.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Action, this should be called double Commander's Barrel Action. Yeah,
double command does.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
We had one good game. The other one was a stinker.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah that is what you say. What you say to
say it.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Bar You got commando fever now, so you now, Jadon
Daniels look last night or what I.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Like Jaydon Daniels. I've said it all along. I like him.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I'm not going to say I have fever, but you know,
good for them.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, he was really impressive. What's not impressive is me
thinking the Bengals are going to go to the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
That ain't What about Lawrence and the jackson going back
to Neverbank Stadium?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, where do you where should we start?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
There's a lot of discussion to be had Jacksonville. I
don't even know really where to start. I mean, we
asked Pete Prisco this because he is what he's the
mayor of Jackson's the mayor of.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Jackson Yeah, he actually used to be the mayor of Jacksonville.
We can talk to him about it. We'll get more
in depth. I think we start off on a positive
Noe boys. I think we talked about the Commandos and
their big win last night.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, he's in Commando. Fever's backbar. Washington gets it done.
They get it done on the road and Jaden Daniels
was dealing, dealing. Yeah, that dime throw to Terry McLaurin
in the end zone to seal the game there on
the road. You gotta feel good for Washington. And by
the way, the sideline, everybody fired up. First touchdown pass

(02:34):
to an O Ligneman, Cliff Kingsbury's out there, dan Quinn's
Huggings guy, first touchdown past the season for Jamals and uh,
it feels like listen the dan Quinn higher At least
there's a different vibe there all the way around.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Is that the Is that the way you read it there?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Bar?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, I don't know. Well, come on, read it
just as much as the way you guys read it.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm not I'm not an authority on Washington football.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Watch it. Just like you got your.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
One of the greatest Washington commanders as voted on by
people in and around the organization.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're on that the fans you were.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
With little Danny, we want you to know. Yeah, like, like,
how are you feeling?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I feel good that they won for our fans. I
feel good for the players that they want.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I love the team, you know, love love what they
you know, meant to me. So watching them, I hope
for them to win. So I didn't think.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
They're a fight song. Do you guys have a fight
song or you?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hell to the Commanders, Hell Victor re.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Commanders on the war path, fight for oh d C.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
There's more, there's more, but I won't I won't continue on.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't think there is one for Cleveland, is there?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I was drafted the fights for Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
This year.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
They at least one win this year, Cleveland still looking
Cleveland is on the blink. I think like the Bears
are just a toilet flushing. That was what Rich Paul yesterday.
I didn't even any won't bring it up well before.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
And then yeah there's the bean.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
So what have you seen just from a quarterback standpoint,
Brady that makes you watch Jaydon Daniels and go all right,
this this could work? And what it was there something
they did differently last night or it was just Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Okay, I mean, I'll put it this way. Louis Romo
was the defensive coordinator at Purdue back when I was
in college, and we lit them up in two thousand
and five for a night game. I mean it was egregious.
So you know, this has always been the weak link
of the Cincinnati Bengals. It's it's been their defense. And
the tough part for them is, you know, with the

(05:05):
with Burrows contract, Tamar Chase wanting a new contract, like
this is a team that's to me always going to
be really hard to have the type of roster they
need to go win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
And it's one of the.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Reasons why I've kind of knowing again the economics of
the NFL. How much cash you need to be able
to spend to be able to pay a lot of
guys and make it all work, or do what the
Rams have done in the past and be able to
go all in for at least one.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Of those years. You gotta have enough cash to do it.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I don't think people understand, man, it is really really
hard for these organizations to make money. Even with all
the money they're making, and to put into the rosters
and pay out all this cash. It's really really hard
to be profitable. So you have to be so good
hitting on all your draft picks. You have to be
so good finding ways of making it all work and

(05:57):
coming together staying healthy. This is not a team that
you know, I think has all the pieces to be
able to win a Super Bowl this year. And we'll
see what it looks like in the future, especially once
te Higgins moves on for this roster and Jamar Chase
gets his deal, we'll see how much money they have left.
But to answer the question about Jade Daniels, look, Cliff

(06:17):
Kingsbury does a really good job playing to the strengths
of his quarterbacks, and in this case, Jade Daniels clearly
is a dual threat quarterback. He mixes in enough quarterback
run quarterback design, you know, plays where it gives them
some easy completions. Look at the first touchdown pass, you
know a little kind of play action off off the
back side of it. He's wide open. I mean the

(06:39):
McLaurin throw is phenomenal. I mean that's all Jade daniels
talent ability. But the second Jade Daniels takes takes off
in runs, it forces a defense to play less man
demand coverage. So it takes out that toolbox that they've
got because they're not playing you know, two deep man under.
They're just not There's no one accountable for the quarterback

(07:01):
that coverages out will never see it. You're not gonna
play man to man because the second that he takes
off and runs, everyone's got their backs turned and Jade
Daniels is were running for forty fifty yards downfield. So
then you're playing zone and what type of zone. Well,
if you're gonna be running the football Jade Daniels, two,
you better put that extra guy in the box. But
really that's not even enough because you have to have
someone account for the quarterback. So you're usually playing some

(07:23):
sort of cover for some sort of cover three post
size safety.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Like we just talked about this with with Urbin Mayer
this past week in this playbook segment. You get cleanton coverages.
Clean coverages mean like you basically get a couple coverage.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
That's about it.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
That or some maybe if they want to play zero
coverage situationally, but it's a big risk because if someone
you know can't cover, there's no safety help. If Daniels
gets outside, there's there's nothing behind him, so he's running
for days for a touchdown. So it really limits what
defenses can do. And that's the pressure of a quarterback
who's a dual threat quarterback. And not that we're seeing

(07:59):
it like so prevalent in the NFL BO, We're starting
to see it more and more and more because you
can really scheme up some things against the defense that
you face.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Jane daniels athleticism is on on the level of Lamar Jackson.
His like his ability to run and his ability to move.
It's it's like I'm not saying it.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Is that Kyler Murray asked a little bit too.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean his legs be moving fast and not Kyler
because Kyler Murray's legs are like it looked different. It's
kind of hard to compare them because which what scares
you them? The height differential. I gotta be honest with you,
I just don't see anybody catching Kyler. Kyler Murray reminds
me of like the homie from around the way that
that like was walking out down the alleyway. He had

(08:48):
something to yours and you know you wanted it back
and you are like, like Lee, what he got to yours?
And then you everybody start chasing after him. They couldn't
catch him. That's that's Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Lamar Jackson is just he's just a superior athlete to
a lot of people. And when he gets out there
and he runs, I think Jaydon Daniels has that same
type of athleticism men, and and like you said, playing
to those strengths. This league has becomes such a pass

(09:20):
RPO style of team, a run pass option type of
of offenses. It's just become kind of commonplace that you
know that the quarterback is reading the defensive end or
the blitzing linebacker, and depending on what they do is
what dictates what they or what the coverage looks like

(09:41):
depends on if they're going to pull it out and
throw it, and it just you know, to me, I
thought that it got a little bit much. It got
a little bit much because everybody who's doing it isn't
really a threat to hurt you in the running game.
But when you get a guy like Jaydon Daniels who's
doing it, you really do have to pay attention to

(10:04):
what it is he's doing. Now it becomes as I
mentioned before, I know, here we go here, it becomes
eleven on eleven football, you love. I love eleven on
eleven because generally it's ten.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
But now when that's Kyler Murray out there, because.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
She will juke Joe ass Yeah, he'll get you. He'll
get you. So will Josh Allen too. By the way,
not gonnask that. What was you gonna say?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Well, you know, there's the expression like, oh man, he
lost his jockstrap. Yeah, shook. I didn't know any dudes
that ever actually wore a jockstrap.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
And and I'm older than you, so and you want
to know the funny, I was telling my son, I'm
not going to ask it, but you.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Know what, I'm trying to get a response out of
what I'm not gonna ask it though, what you know,
you know where I'm going? Where is he going?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
I'm just saying knowing in my my time ever, no
one ever wore a jockstrap.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, I don't get it. I mean I'm lost.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I'm saying that expression was not true.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Like you can't shake him out of their jockstrap because
you didn't have.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Because they ever warm.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, it was like, that's fair, Yeah, that's fair. Do
they even say that shook him out of his jock now?
Do they even say that anymore? Oh?

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, I hear people outside of they're like, hey, man,
go back to ten yard line. Man, shook you out
of your jockstrap. You out of your job tank? Grab
that than sitting over there tank plus some underwear back
down the twelve yards tank right there with Andre the giants.
I'm just saying that was my era. I don't know
if your era.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
If they no jockstrap's really In fact, the funny thing
was in gym class you had they forced you to
wear a jock strap and you would have to pull
your straps out and show the gym.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Teacher that you had one on or you lose.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know, it sounded like a Didty party to me,
now I'm thinking back on it.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Cup check where that came from?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Well?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Cup check was football? I don't.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I mean maybe baseball too, but cup checking mite what
Lebron said?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
No party like a Diddy party.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh damn.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I wonder if that's gonna come back to han him. No,
I hope not. Don't make it through anything.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hey, now.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
The gud I mean he's he's approaching sixty and he
plays like he's twenty five.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Whatever?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Whatever he's got going on, he seems pretty durable. Now,
did you guys happen to hear Cam Taylor Britt of
the Bengals who was pointing out that the Commando's offense
lay college offense?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Before yeah? So.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, was asked about that
following the game and didn't seem too pleased with just
the idea of of what Cam Taylor brit had said beforehand,
and so while responding to the question from the media
member that was asking it afterwards, Zach Taylor had this
to say.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Kam Taylor Britt played.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Some headlines with his comments about the Commander's.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Offense and saying it was a nice college.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Did you have an issue.

Speaker 9 (13:01):
With that and you like those are That's That's not
what we do. That's not what we do. We praise
our own team, praise the other team. We don't need
to take shots like that. That team hasn't hasn't punted
in two weeks. They've scored on every single possession of
last two weeks. So I've got a tremendous amount of
respect for what they're doing over there. I've done Cliff
a long time. I knew pair with that quarterback, this

(13:23):
was going to be a very dangerous offense to play
against the NY They've proven that.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So so I had to wear that a little bit afterwards.
I did Cam Taylor Bright Now he didn't know. He
didn't regret it. Afterwards, he was also asked about it
and said he did not regret his comments. But that
did not look great last night on the defensive side
of things, and the Bengals got lit up.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
Man.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
I mean twenty one of twenty three passing. That was
pretty pretty fire.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Rookie record, right. I think that's the looky.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Rookie completion record. Yep.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Malik Neighbors also set a record as well as performance
last week, which braves me to it's that side, folks.
Jonas Knox is going to provide us the A for
this year's Offensive Rookie, brought to you by Draft Kicks.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's right, our friends and DraftKings. Let's go ahead and
tap dance for a while, way the way we were
offensive Ki.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
We have got in here, folks.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
He's got fingers that have Mortis in them.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And a thumb ring that is still there, still still.
I'm ready listen, I am ready. O. Yeah, We're we're
off and running here. Earlier on So, Jayden Daniels and
Monique Neighbors are the current one and two favorites to
Wooden Rookie of the Year Offensive Rookie of the Year.

(14:41):
That is, Jade and Daniels at a plus one fifty
hundred brings you back one fifty molik Neighbors at a
plus two fifty one hundred brings you back two hundred
and fifty dollars after last night.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean, I think it's a Williams too and him.
You know, Caleb is still plus six.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean they had his name on the trophy literally
just waiting there getting dust and cobwebs on it for
NFL Honors.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
You know, here's the problem, though, is there's one player
that's been playing at a high level the entire time,
and that's Joel That's your boy. And I would actually
put Fuaga from the Saints out there too. The I'm
telling you, man, people need to give these linemen some props,
some credit.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I don't know if it's going to have.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
It probably won't, especially when you have a performance like
that from Jane Daniels and if he continues to replicate that.
But I want to be on the record right now
with you guys. I'm here for the big men, all right.
That's what I'm here for, to defend them, all right.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
That quote off, he's here for the big men.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I'm just like, someone's got to pull for him, somebody,
you know, somebody's got to do it.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Someone's got to do no Diddy. But I'm right now
I am.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
I am rooting for those big guys because no one's
giving our offensive lineman the proper respect they deserve.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
All Right, these guys are playing the.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Ball or some spect on my name.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
That's I think we need to We need to really
contemplate this when it comes down time to vote for
offensive Rookie the Year.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Say agreed, I'm jayde and Daniels, pro Jade and Daniels.
I was pro Jade and Daniels before the drive, more
pro Jade and Daniels going to Washington. But I do
respect the fact that you're right, they don't get enough
consideration or enough you know, exposure in terms of what
it is that they do.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
But by the way, even he did look good, and
he did they have to be in there for a while.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I sure hope, I sure hope. So he did look good.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, Well, congratulations Washington and Buffalo look good.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
We didn't even really talk about Buffalo. I mean we
can Buffalo, Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
We're going off and never Never Never Land Banks Stadium
or whatever it's called.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Appy Top twenty five.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I'm just seeing things that I never thought exists.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
When you've got the VQ Top fifteen right.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
That way, folks, the Top fifteen for this week. We've
got some changes, in particular at the top. Coming off
their big win in Norman, Oklahoma. The Tennessee Volunteers are
now four and oh, I'm moving them all the way
up to number one.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
I just think they're the most complete team in college
football right now.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
I know there's some people who are upset if you're
a Georgia fan or a Texas fan, but.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
I'm looking at this Tennessee team.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
You look at them defensively, They've got all the pieces
and they've got all.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
The stats to back it up this far.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
They've got one of the better wins too, going to Norman,
Oklahoma to get that win.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Versus the Sooners.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Nico Ia Maliava is one of the best quarterbacks down
in the country, a perfect system for him. So Tennessee
jumps up one spot to the number one spot in
the country.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
I've got Texas at number two. They're down one.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
This has nothing to do with Arch Manning or Quinn
your as the quarterback situation. I just think Tennessee right
now is the team to beat at this point. Arch
actually did play pretty well versus Louisiana Monroe, which we expected. Georgia,
I've got at the number three spot, same spot they
were before. Ohio State's still at number four. No changes there,
some early struggles, a little bit pulling away from Marshall.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
However, they got it together in the second half.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Ole Miss same exact spot, number six, Same thing with
Bama coming off the by getting ready for a huge
game against Georgia this week, and Georgia also coming off
the bye.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Next up is Miami at number seven.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Really hard to move them ahead of any of the
teams ahead of them at this point in time.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I'd like to because I love cam Ard.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
I think next to Travis Hunter, it's cam Ward that's
up for the Heisman. But this Miami team might prize
a lot of people depending on how far they go
in the ACC this year, winning the championship, maybe even
getting a buye depending on how it all works out
when it's all said and done. But keep keeping an
eye and watching cam Ward. He is an absolute stud.
Now the changes really start to kick in Oregon up

(19:16):
two spots from number ten. I'm not even so, I'm
not even sure right now.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I'm so much a believer in this Oregon team.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
I think we're gonna find out a lot more here
in a couple weeks when they take on the buck Eyes,
but at this point that went over Boise looking more
legit and looking better, and maybe they'll continue to round
into form, but still some concerns there.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Offensively and defensively. Up to the number nine spot.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Penn State a big one this week, though, we will
see how far if they can win this week versus Illinois,
a top twenty five team and the Ape pole, how.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Far that can help them climb.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
At this point that we're starting getting the meat of
the Big ten schedule, so it should be a lot
of fun. Utah, they're up to spots to number ten.
I've got this coming off of the in Stillwater versus
Oklahoma State this past week and not even having Cam
Rise in the starting quarterback, it was Isaac Wilson to
lead the Utes to victory on the road. Their defense

(20:11):
kept the minute. Mackay Bernard, their running back, stole the show.
And I'm talking about Oli Gordon for Oklahoma State. McKay Bernard,
who's had tuite the season, a really incredible story of
his patience to wait as a fifth year running back
for that final opportunity up to number eleven or excuse me,
down to number eleven. Is Missouri a close loss to Vandy,
and honestly, Vandy should have won that game. They had

(20:32):
multiple opportunities in the end. We give credit for Missouri
winning in the end. However, still outside of the top ten, they'
dropped into number eleven.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Up to number twelve, up eight spots. I've actually got Michigan.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
That's a huge win and maybe one that gives us
a sense of what's going to be happening for this
Michigan team this year. Offensively just bowling Southern col up
and down the field for four quarters. Defensively putting pressure
on Miller Moss and finding ways of winning a Taiwan
at home. So they go up to number twelve. I've

(21:05):
got USC down five spots where there were last week.
Excuse me, just one spot behind them though, all those questions,
if did they fix the defensive problems? How much better
is the offensive line? And you know, one game sample size,
it's tough to put too much into it, but did
not look good for USC joining the Big ten, and
maybe what this is for shoutow for the future. Up

(21:25):
six spots though, is a team that we've got to
start talking about. They've kind of been a sleeper. They're
starting to creep up. They're starting to emerge. It's Iowa
State at number fourteen, one of the more underrated teams
in college football. Rocko Beck. They're quarterbacks playing great. Jalendwell
is one of the best wide receivers in college football.
And that is a salty defense. And with the blowout

(21:46):
for the Floyd of Rosedale between Iowa and Minnesota, Iowa
blew out Minnesota. That win over Iowa is looking better
and better. And then finally up to number fifteen, up
six spots with a solid win over Georgia Tech this
past week. It's a Louisville and they will travel to
South Bend to take on the Fighting Irish. That'll be
a game we'll preview and give you some bets on

(22:07):
later this week. But that is my college football top
fifteen heading into week five.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Best in the business night, Your ap pipes just smoking?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
All right?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Is Notre Dame still sixteen? Are you still holding the hat? Jeez?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yes, I mean, look, come on, they had a hard
time pulling away from Miam of Ohio. All right, there
are some highlights, there are some good things. I've got
to be honest, I'm not going to be biased. All right,
this is my job.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Now.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Everyone knows I love Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
I literally creative a collective that helped this program for
the past three years.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Without it, honestly, there was no plan.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
So like, trust me, no one's going to question my
love for my alma mater, my experience there and everything
I've tried to do since then to help them out
veterans there. But the reality is this team's got an
opportunity this week to prove that they can get back
into that conversation. That's how jarring of a loss. That
home loss was to Northern Illinois, who, by the way,

(23:07):
just lost to Buffalo, so they entered the top twenty
five in this past week. They just lost lost to Buffalo,
so they're out. So now that loss is even looking
worse for Notre Dame in this sense, and it does.
It does bring the conversation. I asked you guys after
that loss, you know if they went eleven and one,
did they still get in? And there's people that I
think look at the expanded playoff and say that's one

(23:28):
of the downsides of it. Is like every game, and
we've talked about this on our pregame show. When you
played in the you know, BCS era, when you played
in the even the fourteen playoff era, you felt if
you lost one game, you were out of it. And
even though that stinks, it still adds to the stakes
of why every game mattered so much in college football.

(23:49):
We look at the Bengals, for example, who lost again
last night on Monday Night Football, and we're like, yeah,
odds are they're not going to make the playoffs, but
you know, they got fourteen more games, so we'll see
what happens. Like, we used to not say that college football,
but now we're starting to say that. So I understand
the frustration for some out there who liked the way
it used to be because college football has really always
been about the regular season, and now we're trying to

(24:11):
create this postseason playoff scenario, which again.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
We can always you know, go through the.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Philosophical conversations if that's the best way to you know,
determine who's the national champion. But my whole, my general
point is they've got to go prove it on the field,
and up to this point, I don't believe that they've
been able to prove that on the field yet.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
And I think they just got to go undefeed it
the rest of the way. Well, and they need USC
to probably go undefeed it the rest of the way.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
They need Florida State to continue to build back up.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Right.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
They got their first win this past week versus CAL,
although a game that honestly have mentioned in many of my.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Florida State buddies.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Cal probably could have won that game many opportunities to
and they crap the bed there. So they need Florida
State to keep winning. They need us C to keep winning,
They need Georgia Tech to win after they took a
loss this past week. You know, there's a bunch of
things they need to keep happening. So their strength of
schedule looks more difficult, because that was the problem coming
in the season, is everyone was so high on Notre

(25:10):
Dame to make the playoff because the schedule was so weak.
I mean, we never played a group of five type
team outside of Navy, which was a separate agreement. It
goes back to World War Two and so there's a
lot of history there and that's why they played that
rather every year. But we never played a MAC team,
We never played a Sun Belt team, and you took
pride in that and the type of skeleule you played

(25:32):
that has been completely transformed. And even now the five
games versus ACC opponents that Notre Dame has a partional
agreement with, that's water down the schedule. The ACC hasn't
been very good. So the reality is this is a
water down schedule and this is a team coming into
the season. I looked at it on paper, going they
should be a minimum of eleven and one, if not

(25:52):
twelve and zero. I mean, you've got Florida State coming
to your house. You have all this time to build
up this offense to get to the end of the
season and against Southern cal to be ready for that.
And they had a bunch of changes on their side
of things. So you know, the schedule set up extremely
well with the exception of that first game which they
won for them to be able to go undefeated or
potentially one loss. Now you look at after that performance

(26:14):
versus Northern Illinois, the struggles this past week even breaking
away from Miam of a highlight times and you just go,
all right, it's gonna be a week to we think,
because you're not really show sure which team is going
to show.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Up I hear you on the listen, you lose a
game now and it doesn't have the significance that maybe
it once did because of the expanded playoff, And I
agree with you, But I think once we get to
those expanded playoffs and we're seeing home playoff games going
to be like you know what, small price and by
week come on, man, yeah, man, it's gonna be so long.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
You don't want to lose. You just have more of
an opportunity to still get in.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
And it's not gonna affect the rivalries are gonna want
to beat each other regardless.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
So here's to me, I think what's gonna make it
more excited in the regular season or bring back some
of that.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
They need to.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
Find a way of creating more commonalities amongst scheduling. So
now that we have four, you know, power four autonomous conferences,
we need to find a way of making sure everyone
plays the same conference amount of conference games and in
regards to non conference scheduling. Like my pitch is this
as the as the playoff looks to expand, I think

(27:24):
all of these bowl games outside of the New Year
six that are part of the quarterfinal and semi finals
should do kickoff classics. You know, you now take those games,
make them neutral site games and allow teams to go
play in weeks zero, one, two, three, if you will,
before they get into conference play, and allow them to
go play these kickoff classics.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
All over the country where these bull.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Games are at those venues, and so you create intrigue there.
But you're going to create better matchups, and you're playing
the same amount of conference games, but make those non
conference games. You know, however, you go about doing it
better than what we're seeing for the most part, or
at least in scheduling. You know, schedule one of the
big boys, you know, schedule you know at least one
or two other Power four makes some sort of mandate.

(28:08):
Because that's the thing that you have in the NFL
where you look at it and you say, well, they're
all NFL teams, So you're not looking at saying, well,
they've got a watered down schedule, like the parody in
the NFL is the parody in the NFL. There is
at times a huge gap between scheduling because this team's
playing an FCS opponent, you know, as opposed to another
team who's playing another Power four opponent one week in

(28:29):
their non conference schedule, So that would go a long way,
I think in alleviating alleviating some of the issues that
I've got with an expanded playoff, because we already don't
have schedules that are equal in comparison, so it's unfair
to then compare a team that has three losses but
played a gauntlet versus a team that has one that
didn't play.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Anybody so hard.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
At one By the way, there was a decision mate,
so Marcus Freeman announced Jade Mickey is gonna red shirt,
and so you were pointing out, this is the time
when this goes down, right, correct now that yeah, So.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
So just for college football fans to be aware of this,
and this is gonna happen more and more, in particular
at teams where there there's they probably don't have any
chance for the playoffs, so they've got multiple losses. We're
now four games in the season, which means you've got
the ability to steal red shirt. You can't play any
more than four games in any given season. So this
is this is you know, the first and it's honestly surprising.

(29:26):
This young man, by the way, has been through a lot.
He lost his mother, last year and just a tremendous
young man has has you know, battled through a lot
of stuff, you know, off the field with dealing with that,
but he is he said like, hey, I want an
opportunity to go play and start and play somewhere else.
So you know that's you know, one of the good
things about the transfer portal is you have the opportunity

(29:48):
to do so. But he's stopping at this point in
time the season to preserve his eligibility for another year.
And it's it's not unique to not ur name. You're
gonna find this out a lot of other schools. Whereas, again,
if they have no chance of postseason aspirations or things
aren't going well, a lot of guys who've only played
four games are probably getting the advice of go ahead
and telling.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
You want a red shirt.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
If you have that red shirt, and let's go try
to find an opportunity to go play somewhere else where
you can start and get more tape out there.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I mean, so, do you think, like, who do you
think sees about whether or not they can red shirt?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
First?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Do you think it's Cam Rising or Cam McCormick, like
to see if they have another one left in them.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
I mean if call well, both those teams are not
in the category of teams that are not playing for something.
Damn Utah's the top of the Big twelve and Minam
is top of the ACC.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
So unfortunately, for your your dream scenario here.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Both these players are most likely going to be looking at,
you know, still playing the season.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Camp McCormick. Going into year ten next year, you think.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
They'll ever stop start start taking starters out and resting
them in the last games of the season because of
the playoff run.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Potentially, But you know, you've got and here's the problem
with that is you've got things you're playing for, you know,
conference title games, which could equate to a first round
by So that's the thing is like there's there's gonna
be no scenario. Because you have a committee picking this,
there is subjectivity to it. So you don't have like where, hey,
we've flinched the division or we've clinched the playoff spot.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
You might assume like, hey, the number one team, number two,
number three, whatever, they're going to be in.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
But if they're that high, they probably have to play
a conference game, and they probably want to go try
to win that conference game and then the other thing
is they aren't guaranteed to buy, so I think most
teams would rather not have to play a game and
be automatically into that next round.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
As opposed to saying, oh, we'll just host one, right.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean it's it's gonna be fun. Man.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I just can't wait for home playoff games.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I just want to see what that atmosphere is like
in college, especially if it's in state college.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I mean, I know a few people there. I'll hook
you up if I appreciate that. Man, at least I
could do.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know, I love about Penn State and it it
surprised me, and I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Maybe I just ignorant to it. Just the East Coast influence.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
Like all the all the bros from like New Jersey,
New York, you know. It just it's a rowdy fan
base man, like it was. I was not prepared for that.
I thought it'd be like more like Pennsylvanians, like a
little more Midwest and so forth, you know, some Ohio folks.
But it's it's definitely got more of an East Coast influence.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
So yeah, I've.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Enjoyed it like that, that crowd, that group they're awesome.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
It's a special, special place.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I completely buy in and understand you know how you
feel the way you do about it, because every time
I go there like that, it's pretty special.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
We're heading there, Jonas and Lee, we we will miss
you you, but don't worry.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'll to tend them.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
I was hoping there was like an outside chance we
would somehow be going there, with the way the scheduling
and everything worked.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Out, that would have been cool.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Well, yeah, I think that was somewhere somehow on the table,
But I don't know if there was.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I don't I don't know what goes into the decision
of where we go.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
I just kind of show up and someone throws me
a suit and I just start sweating.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
That's essence how that works.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Which is probably gonna happen this weekend, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern three am Pacific.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Right now, we turn it over to our guy, Pete Curst,
senior NFL columnists or CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst
and our good buddy here a new Tuesday tradition on
the show you get them on x at Prisco, CBS, Pete,
you know, thoughts, thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and prayers to
your Jacksonville Jaguars. Just a difficult time for everybody there,

(33:44):
and you being the mayor of Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's got to be by the way.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
Let me say something real quick.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
I thought when I heard smooth Operator, that was going
to be my new.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Intro music or something, because that's like that. Just think
about it.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Do you want it to be?

Speaker 7 (33:56):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Man, I love that song.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
It just described me back in the day. That was
such a.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Stooth operator back in the day.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
That's yeah, a Pete, in all seriousness, what do you
want your intro song to be?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Do you want that to be in?

Speaker 7 (34:09):
I love smooth Operator, man, come on, tink it. Listen
to the words just coast to coast.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
I went from the West coast to East coast and come.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
On, it was just smooth operator.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, I'm into it. Pete.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
For those who don't know, you're a proudy was on
a state alum.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
When you talk about going to the west coast to
east and I'm sure you're a smooth operator out there?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Are you not in? Is it the Kronkite Hall of
Fame out there? Are you not in there?

Speaker 7 (34:33):
No? I don't give enough money to the school. They don't.

Speaker 8 (34:36):
You know, you got to donate your You got to
donate your way in.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
You know how that goes?

Speaker 5 (34:40):
And are you taking shot at somewhere, Pete? I mean
that berry's then that berry?

Speaker 8 (34:46):
Well there you go. Yeah, you know what, you can
buy your way in anything.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
I think, you know.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
I mean, I'm just that's not my cup of tea,
not that important, not.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
That important to me. I mean, it'd be great if
they honor me for.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
What I I think you should be in, Pete. Just
the record, I think you should be in it.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
I just like to hear that.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Well, thank you, Brady.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
And of course you're gonna stir something up right off
the top of it.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
I mean, look like, if there's a chance maybe I
joined the the Fiesta ble Bull Committee, I'll kind of
leverage some things.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
We'll get you in there, Bud.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
Okay, thanks Brady. I appreciate it. I always appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
But no, I'm not giving him any more money.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Shay Conn ain't paying for wins though, damn you said
they can pay, you can pay.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
For anything, said, Conn's money ain't buying him no wins.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
Well yeah, well you know what, you know what, LaVar,
It all starts with the general manager.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
Who should have been gone a couple of years ago.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
He stinks Trent balkis not very good, not very good,
you know. And I don't think Doug Peterson is doing
a very good job as a head coach. I mean,
how can that team at zero and two take that
field and be as flat and lethargic as they were.
It makes no sense to me. And there's no you know,
there's no nobody picks them up, Nobody. We're look at

(35:58):
all the money they spent in the off season. Okay,
the quarterback needs to pick up his play too, but
look at all the money they spent in the offseason
on him, On Josh heinz Allen, who was a no
show last night. You know, Tyson Campbell's hurt. They paid
him a boatload of money and you look at it
and you say, what do you get for it?

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Nothing? They have nothing.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
That team is not very good and right now they
go to Houston this week and they're staring owe four
in the saves Pete.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
If you were to blame three things. When you watch
the tape, you watch that team, what are you pointing to?

Speaker 8 (36:28):
Well, it starts and actually this wasn't much of the
problem left by.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
The offensive line isn't good. I mean, let's be real.

Speaker 8 (36:33):
They brought back Mitch Morris is the best offensive lineman.
He's been their best offensive lineman the first three games,
and they brought everybody else back, and they thought, Okay,
we can run it back.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
Well, you no, you can't run it back because they
weren't very good.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
You know, Sheriff at right guard is broken down. The
right tackle the rookies regressed in a big way. The
left tackle has been an average player at best his
entire career, and.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
They overpaid him.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
And then the left guard is Cleveland is not a
power player.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
He's weak.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
And so I think it all show up on tape.
Everybody sped up. They spent a bunch of money on Kirk.
He probably did some stuff last night. I think Thomas
could be good. I think the offensive play calling is disjointed.
Who is it, by the way, they won't say is
it Press tayl or is it Doug Peters?

Speaker 7 (37:13):
It doesn't matter. You both stink the play callin stink.
It's not a good team right now.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
And you know who can save that team? I think
ultimately in the end, because look, if they go set
concept before the season, best team he ever had in
the history of the Jaguars, Tom Coughlin's Jaguars teams in
the nineties would have beat them by twenty is already.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Seriously, I mean Fred Taylor, Tony Mark Brunell, the wide.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Receivers, Mith Smith, Keenan mccar.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
He really said that before the season.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
Yeah, he said it was the team he had. Well,
you know what that does though that you know what
that is? That covers the general manager, who usually covers
his own behind and and then it and then what
it does is put all the.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Pressure on the head coach.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
And now now you hear stories about the inviting already
going on inside the building, the angles being played and stuff.
It's not a good situation. And me personally, if they
have a bad year, clean the house, get them to
all the hell out of there and start all over again.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Now is that a place you could see?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
And knowing the place as well as you do, Belichick
being interested in would Sean khn just dump the brains
truck in front of his house and say have whatever
you want, come take this thing over and get a story.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
We need to go.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
You know, they have a relationship with Bill Belichick, Tony
Kahan and Bill Belichick or you know each other from
the analytics world, and then there is a relationship there.
So to answer your question, I definitely could see that.
I could see that being the guy. But here's and Brady,
We've talked about this before.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Do you want Bill.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Belichick's offense in there with Trevor Lawrence or do you
want a guy like Ben Johnson or young you know
or somebody like that, or he's gonna amp up the offense.
I mean, that's the question you got to ask yourself.
Bill Belichick arguably the greatest coach of all time.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
You can make a.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
Strong case for that argument, But do you want Belichick
in there also having input into personnel? Because Bill Belichick
the general manager was dreadful. Bill Belichick the coach got
fired because Bill Belichick the general manager stunk. So if
I bring him in, I'm gonna say, Okay, I'm going
to hire a general manager. He's going to make the
football decisions, you're going to coach football, you think Belichick

(39:19):
will go for that.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I doubt if you think urban Meyer's career and Jacksonville
was into bout Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
No, urban Meyer's career in Jacksonville was ended by sitting
on a bar stool in Ohio in the middle of
the afternoon whatever he was doing when he didn't fly
back with the team.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
So no, I mean, you know they had the next
game that little time off. I mean, he was just
on the ball.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Pete, how do you know they weren't playing smooth operator
in that bar?

Speaker 7 (39:44):
And how well they probably.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
They probably were, But that doesn't mean you act like one.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Give me a break. Have you seen it?

Speaker 8 (39:54):
By the way, have you seen the pictures going around
already on Twitter? They have They have Doug Peterson's face
super imposed on urban Meyer sitting at the bar with
the girl.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh oh no, he is.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Pete Prisco, senior atfl columnist CBS Sports and CBS Sports HQ,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio now on the
flip side of things.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Got to give you credit, Pete.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean, you did say it would be auditioned by
subtraction with Stefan Diggs leaving town. Buffalo looks pretty solid
or was that just they were playing the Jaguars and
Jacksonville had nothing going.

Speaker 8 (40:30):
No, they're good. That's a good team. That's a really
good team. And you know, everybody talked about, well, where's
the number one wide receiver? I think he wasn't a
number one wide receiver the last ten games either. And
Jos Allen and Joe Brady are now in sync. They
have a good offensive plan.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
You can see that.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
You can see it's now Joe Brady's offense. You can
see that Josh.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
Allen is out comfortable with it.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
Finally got the ball to Kincaid, which I think, you know,
I thought he'd have a monster season. He's probably gonna
get there, but a slow start, and then you got
those receivers, you can get the ball to them on
the par you know, the way they.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Scheme it up.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
I think it was really telling last night. They did
a great job, you know, motion and doing all that stuff.
And I think Joe Brady deserves the credit for what
he's doing with that offense. And Josh Allen right now
is the MVP period.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
He's the MVP of the league right now.

Speaker 8 (41:15):
Having said all that, they go to Baltimore this week
and we'll see how they played this week on the road.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Pete, I got to ask you about the other Monday
night football game. We'll just start off with the Bengals
zero to three. It's surprising, I think, to most, even
though they've been traditionally getting off the slow starts.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
The defense was atrocious. You chalcked up the Jade Daniels.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
And Cliff Kingsbury and they're hitting their performance. You got
to give them some credit. But where are you with
this Bengals team? Is it panic time right now? Are
you hitting the button?

Speaker 7 (41:46):
Well?

Speaker 8 (41:47):
I think it's definitely panic time. I mean I thought
the defense would be better, and the defense played pretty
well last week against against Kansas City. So you're sitting
there saying, Okay, well they'll come out and play pretty well,
great good football against Jane Daniels.

Speaker 7 (41:59):
They didn't.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
I mean, they were bad, and I think a lot
of busts, a lot of guys open the bad, bad coverages.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
I just think that they got problems.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
On that team and Ken Joe Burrow and that offense
overcome them.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
I don't know if they can.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
The good news is the Ravens only have one victory.
The good news is the brown stink.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
Uh and the Steelers are three and oh but look
who the Steelers beat?

Speaker 8 (42:20):
They beat They beat the Falcons when they tried to
get Kirk Cousins in the pistol and he was a disaster.
They beat the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Who are you know?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
They beat Tampa the other day? Beat them?

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah, okay?

Speaker 8 (42:33):
And then they beat and then they beat the Chargers.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
When Justin Herbert went down.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
They knocked them out of the game.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
He went down, He had an ankle injury before the game,
he probably shouldn't have played, and they knocked.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Him out the game. They beat them.

Speaker 8 (42:47):
Levari had a high ankle spring going into the game.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
He played through it. I get it. You can't take it.
You are what you are. You gotta give them credit.

Speaker 8 (42:56):
Yeah, well, okay, let me ask you this, how good
do you think they are?

Speaker 4 (43:00):
You know what's interesting about haters of the Pittsburgh Steelers
is that they use the same exact reasoning every single
time this team is winning, and then when they come
up short, because they do generally come up short, everybody's like,
I told you so.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
But it's not profound.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Like the Pittsburgh Steelers will generally get close or win
their division. They will generally get into the playoffs. They
generally do pretty well in the playoffs. Every once in
a while they'll win the super Bowl. But I mean,
if they lose in the playoffs, everybody's like, told you

(43:40):
this fool's gold. You know, Pittsburgh gota.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That this is that. It's just it's it's Steelers envy.
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I don't get it, Steelers envy.

Speaker 8 (43:50):
No, the coach is great, Mike Thomas a great coach.
That's why they are.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
What they are.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Before they hate Pete, they say, you know what, he's
such a great guy. He's such a great coach. And
then they use that word that haters use. But what's
the word but?

Speaker 7 (44:06):
But?

Speaker 4 (44:06):
But but here's the there you go there, give me
the butt, give me the butt.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
The butt is play the style of play, the style
of when you play this style they play, which is
to play really good defense, to.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
Be physical in offense, and run the ball.

Speaker 8 (44:22):
The margin for error is very slip and so so
that's why there's always the butt. But you yeah, and
I'm going to butt them and give them credit because
you got to give.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
Them credit for what they've done so far. I'm not
taking away from what they do.

Speaker 8 (44:34):
I said they'd be lasting in the division, and Steelers
haters are there. Steelers fans are coming at me like crazy.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
I led with the power ranking. I led with the
power ranking. My apology. I was wrong about them.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
They're better, But you know why they're not going to
be the best the worst team in that division because
the Brown steak.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
I know, I know Pete, trust me well.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
I was actually gonna go to talk about something that
Pete got dead on. He's been a big Jade Daniels
fan for a while, well not one of he was
at Arizona State, but with what he did at LSU, Pete,
you liked Jade and Daniels I think best of anyone
in this quarterback class. That was impressive. There's nothing else
you can say that was incredible last night. He's got
to be up for Offensive Rookie of the Year if

(45:17):
they continue this.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
What if you liked so far from Jane Daniels.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
You know what, Brady and I said it to the
whole draft roces.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
You know you work with me and we talked about it.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
He's the most most improved player I've ever seen in
the entire draft process, from start to finish. You know,
because I watched him at Arizona State. He did some
good things, but he was erratic. He was he held
onto the ball, he ran too much. And then he
gets LSU and he's an entirely different guy. And you
talk to the people at LSU, you talk to people
in the league, and the one thing that everybody said
is he was the first one in in the last

(45:48):
one out. He worked and he loved it. He lived
and he wanted.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
To become great.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
And he had that it factor about him. He had
the swagger, he had the alpha dog in him, and
that's what you want your quarterback. And I always thought
it would translate to the next level. I thought he
would be the running stuff, he would stop running as much.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
And now he's still good. He can do it.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
But eventually he got to end up throwing in the pocket.
But he was always a much better pocket thrower than
everybody getting credit for.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
And I think we're seeing that now. He plays the
game with an ease about him.

Speaker 8 (46:14):
There's no you know, you you watch Caleb Williams and
and there's something ever, it's herky jerky. When you watch
DJ Stroud. It's usually not last week, but it's usually
pretty easy, and it's a flow to it. That's what
you get with Jayden Daniels. There's a flow to the
way he plays quarterback. He doesn't get rattled. Third and long.
Oh well, a fire shot in the middle of the field,
we get a penalty. Third and long, a fire shot

(46:37):
down the sideline. The guy doesn't get rattled. And I
think that's the biggest thing about him. A.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Pete LaVar was saying earlier in the show that Will
Levis should be benched.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
To your thoughts, that's just stupid.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
We get visit there Callahan.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Man didn't Callahan come out and say he was contemplating
something like that.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Did he say this?

Speaker 8 (46:54):
No, No, that was Antonio Piers who's contemplating benching.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Garden Min Callahan got a quote there too, Pete.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
No, No, he was talking about the right.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Tackle mentioned quarterback.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
He mentioned Will Levis.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
Okay, I want I want to say, I'm going to
defend I'm going to defend Will.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
He don't shoot.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Don't shoot the messenger. We're just telling you what's been
reported on it.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Here's the thing about Will Levis.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
The hit go on Brady you know this because you're
a quarterback, and and Kirk Borter did a good breakdown
of that hitch and how it was why it's not
really on the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
He's too he's too jacked. That's the problem. Pete, No,
he's not.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
He goes right down the field, bing bing bing, right
down the field the.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Court that.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Bing bing bing right to it live.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
He got brutalized on Sunday. They were they sacked.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Eight times, bing bing bing right that column.

Speaker 8 (47:50):
No, yeah, well, I mean their defense was awful against
Malik Willis.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
Were they not?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
They did not help they did?

Speaker 6 (47:58):
You not view that as a revenge game from League Willis?
And he's played really well last two starts for Green Bay.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
You know what it's time to give It's time to
give Metlaslore his credit. You know the guy, the guy was.
He's the only coach in history to win thirteen games
three straight years and has never never even sniffed a
Coach of the Year award. And you win two games
with Malik Willis, Hey, it tells you how good that
team is. By the way, and they were my.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Super Bowl pick.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
But you know my super Bowl pick looks pretty good.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Bills and Packers. I think that has a real chance happened?

Speaker 8 (48:29):
No, and then yeah, I love what the I will
love what the Packers have done. And you know, once
they get Jordan love that, get those receivers going, that's
gonna be a tough.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
Team to beat.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
What are we doing with Bryce Young? How's that play out?
We just h he is he getting dealt is? Can
they get anything for him? At this point?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Is better just to go someplace else, be a backup,
try and develop you I was thinking, look, I don't
know if they're in the market for this, but a
team that might make some sense and would be probably
good for Bryce Young?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
What about the Rams?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Like if Matt Stafford's not going to be there for
the next you know, ten years, because you know he's
aging and and they feel like listen, sooner or later,
we got to go in a different direction. You know
McVeigh can developed quarterbacks and you know he's got the
mind for it. Like that could be a landing spot
for him. But it feels like his days in Carolina
are over.

Speaker 8 (49:18):
Now you live in La right, you live in La Okay?
Is there a good sub shop around there in La somewhere?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Oh my god, what are you getting back to does
he need to gain weight?

Speaker 8 (49:29):
Go get it, go get it, go, get a nice
big sub and maybe you could trade that and give
that up for a shoo who wants a five nine
and seventy five pound quarterback who can't be over the like,
doesn't have a big arm, Come on, trade for him.

Speaker 7 (49:54):
I mean, isn't he about he?

Speaker 8 (49:56):
I think we've the decision has been made when you
see what happened after he was benched and how poorly.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
He played, by the way the pressure.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Rate on him was not bad when he was in.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
There playing quarterback.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
The most recent first couple.

Speaker 8 (50:12):
Yeah, the first to last two I'm talking about it
last year thrown away because they spent money on guards
to try and help him, and they helped him and
he didn't help himself. And Andy Dalton goes in there
and starts throwing all over the place. Well, isn't that
another indictment of how bad Bryce Young is?

Speaker 6 (50:27):
Just what's go back and look last year, Pete, we
talked about this last year when Dalton. When Dalton played
versus the Seahawks, he lit it up and it was
like it was one of those games where you go, oh,
all right, well that they're they're capable of doing it,
just made with a different guy.

Speaker 8 (50:42):
Yeah, and and so is this the end for Bryce
Young in Carolina? Has to be you can't bench him
and then come back to him. And I said last week,
I told you guys, I wouldn't have benched him. I
would have let a play out. They obviously knew more
than me, because uh, he's clearly a backup. And you know,
people say, well, maybe he can do the Baker's Baker
Mayfield treatment, or you know, go somewhere else and become
a good quarterback. I don't see it happening. I just

(51:05):
think at best, he's a backup quarterback in the NFL.
And you know with Miami, you know, Miami's in a
situation now, would Miami make some sense because whatever they
have behind Skyler Thompson got hurt Oil and everybody else,
they're not good either, So maybe something like that. But
I just don't think, what do you give up for him?
Who's what are you trading for Bryce Shawn? If you're

(51:26):
a team out there, what are you giving up for
Bryce Shawn?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Apparently cold cuts?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, I mean, do you have a sub in mind?
Are you thinking like.

Speaker 8 (51:35):
A nice Italian sub. You know it's a nice Italian
with all the meats and stuff.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
All that's not that's not even your Jersey's order on Sundays.

Speaker 8 (51:46):
Well, no I can't, No, Brady, I can't get the
Jersey Mike sub like that.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
Sit there uneast that all day. You know I might
have to beat down at the bathroom. Did you get Yeah?

Speaker 8 (51:56):
I got turkey, like a nice turkey sub. Meanwhile, Brady
has a silly chicken.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's not true.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
I only got it one time, Pete.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
It was like the size of your arm, and he
devoured in about two seconds.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Not as fast as Rick Spielman.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
No, Rick Fielman, by the way, each like nobody ever
fed him before, like like they like I think, I
think of the Spielman household that the family threw one
plate out there and.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
Had Rick and Chris white boy.

Speaker 8 (52:25):
And you didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
You didn't need just for people. So they understand the backstory.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
Pete and I used to work together on Sundays and
I would buy them subs, and we always had our
running jokes of basically Rick what it would devour his?
And was there a chip or a cookie issue with Rick?

Speaker 8 (52:43):
Both? He had both and they were gone too. I mean,
it was amazing. The guy was a machine. And again
the stories you hear about Rick Spielman and Chris Fielman
are legendary on there, the stuff that they used to
do to each other.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
So I wouldn't surprise me. Their dad was an old
football coach.

Speaker 8 (52:58):
He put one plate there and then the other one.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Hey man, that's Massillon, Ohio. Nothing like that, I can
tell you that for sure.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Pete Prisco always a fun time on a Tuesday at Prisco,
CBS senior NFL columnists, CBS Sports analysts for CBS Sports HP. Well, Pe,
good times all right there. He is the great Pete
Prisco of this year on Fox Sports Radio. You don't
trade that Pete. Anybody can get it. He does, it's

(53:31):
the best.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Doesn't care hete Here's and here's the thing too.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Pete was born for this era of sports media where
you just lead with punchlines or headlines. Haymakers like that
is Pete.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
He can.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
He will someone that he's perfect for sports media because
he's always been good at getting directly to the point
of how he feels about something. So I wish Pete
was closer an age to us even though we call
him father time. So it's unfortunate because I think he's
got a long runway here of still Pete isms.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Moving forward, well, listen, that was fun. We will do
it again next Tuesday.