October 2, 2024 • 53 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Davante Adams has requested a trade after AP liked a post on social media. Utah continues the circus that is Cam Rising’s status every week. Plus, the weekly visit from The Old P, Petros Papadakis.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington rating win and Jonas Knots on
Box fours Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Guys, we've got ourselves NFL drama. We were waiting for
it to happen, and apparently it is upon us. The
trade deadline is November fifth, but let's not wait that
long because the worst kept secret in the world was
DeVante Adams may finally want out of Las Vegas. And
apparently the Raiders and him are now open to the
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idea publicly, and there is consideration a second round pick
and other possible additions added into the package. But it
looks like Davante adams time in Las Vegas could be
coming to an end very very soon.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Var is that punting on the season?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's the first thing I thought about, because he's still
I mean, he's your best offensive weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Right, Am I wrong? There?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm trying to think of if there's anybody he's your
best offensive weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I've heard the rumblings, I heard the whispers that he's
not happy in Las Vegas, But is it so bad?
Who do you hear that from? By the way, I
don't know. I don't really remember where I heard it
was from. You know what I might have saw. I
saw it somewhere. I didn't hear it from anybody. I
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just I saw it. I saw it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Anyway, I see a couple of your tracks. I see
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I don't understand why it would be so bad that
you want to get.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
A trade, because here's here's the thing. Who who's trading like?
You're not?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You're not necessarily going to go to a greener pasture?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Now? Is this an attempt to entice the New York Jets?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Because of that bold proclamation Aaron Rodgers made. If you
guys remember that they end up playing together again. Is
this him looking at, you know, eyeing up a team,
say the Cowboys or something to that effect. What does
he have his eye on? Because if there is a
trade that takes place, you know, one of the teams
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that would make sense that I was thinking about would
be possibly the New York Giants. They they need another
weapon to compliment neighbors.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I start thinking of a couple other teams, but those
teams aren't good. They're not good teams. So I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't know what the end result here is the
fact that you know, now it's being discussed and it's
being openly put out there that you know, they're they're
seeking a trade, they're open to a trade, and he
wants to seek a trade. It just to me, I
don't know as that say that they are they punting
the season, because I mean, you you're you're still competitive.
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There's still a competitive team. They're above I mean, they're
at five hundred, I believe.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't understand the timing of it after a win.
I just don't understand the timing of it.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah, it is interesting you bring that up, like it's
not like the season's lost.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It's not like the they.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Could have tried to, you know, do this earlier in
the year, before the season started. Maybe there was a
greater trade value. I mean that that's the reality of
it is. There were some teams who most likely would
have loved to have DeVante Adams on their roster before
the season started, and for whatever reason, this I guess
ends up being the timing at which he says, all right,
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you know.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
This is I just I want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So I'm not sure if it has to do with,
you know, lack of It's not like lack of targets.
I mean he's getting a fair amount of targets. Hit
A huge game versus Baltimore earlier this year was his
best game so far the season. You know, Carolina wasn't
quite as much. You know, you look at the Chargers,
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maybe a little bit less, and just he probably sees
the running on the wall and looking at it saying,
I am, you know what, thirty two. I believe thirty
one somewhere there almost thirty two, and wants to be
somewhere at the end of his career.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
We have it he has a shot to compete as
a playoff.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Team, and maybe he doesn't feel like the Raiders are
a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He was talking with Kay Adams. No relation. I just
want to make that clear to everybody. And apparently there's
some post that went viral.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Again.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm not trying to, you know, stir the pod anymore, LeVar.
I'm not trying to get anybody dirty on any of
this stuff, and I don't want to smear anything around here.
But he was talking with Kay Adams because apparently there
was a post that was put up that don't be
surprised if DeVante Adams has played his fine game as
a Raider and Antonio Peers his Instagram account happened to
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like the post and some people took note of that,
and she asked him about it, so he responded to
that and then also talked about just where he's at
from a mental standpoint with these rumors that are out there.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
So the big story happens where they think your coach
or your coach Jed, I actually don't know, likes this
post about you getting traded. How soon did you hear
from coach?
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Yeah, Ivan, I haven't heard from him. I haven't. I
haven't talked to him, so I haven't. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (05:33):
I don't really know exactly what that was about. Obviously,
I got you know, social media as a beast, so
there's a lot of people out there that saw it
and you know, wondering what's going on and people reaching out.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't spoke to him. Honestly, it's
hard to.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
Comment on and I'm sure you would you would imagine
as such, but it's it's one of those situations where
I just keep my head down and keep doing my
thing and uh, you know, let the let fall what
they make as a answer that, but I haven't. There's
been no company of communication with anybody from the team
since since then became a thing.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
But you know, it's kind of just like the weekly.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
Yeah, so we'll take I think, you know, there's always
some sort of drama, but at the end of the day,
one seven doesn't create any of it. So people can
say what they want. But I'm just chilling, trying to
be the model for you know, not stirring the pot
and just just locking in and doing what I gotta do.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
A lot of people think you you may never play
another down as a raider.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
What would you say that.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
All I can control is this this talk we're having
right here, and then after we're done with this, all
I can control is the next thing that I'm wanting.
So I'm gonna get up in a minute and nice
work out in and that's all I can control.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
If it was it was as Tay always been a
third person guy.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, so what that means do you want to be
there or not say you want to be there?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Say say you want to be there? Or say you
don't want to be there.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I mean, you have the opportunity to say it now
and no one's going to have an issue with it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Just say it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They were talking, Antonio Appierce was talking about business decisions,
and everybody was wondering who he was talking about. And
DeVante Adams hasn't suited up since, so I'm just saying,
maybe that's where this kind of started to veer off.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, he also said we're going to make business decisions.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, so and now we see we see these reports,
so maybe it has become evident as to who he
was discussing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
By the way, I'd also like to answer the question, Yes,
he has played his final game as a Raider. He
was scratched this past week. He's not playing again until
he gets dealt. They're gonna keep him healthy. It's gone,
it's done.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I do think it's interesting though that. I mean, I
didn't see the incident on Instagram. I'm not one that
follows social media that closely, So did Antonio Pierce really
like something about getting traded?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's apparently what I was taking notice. There are people
noted that he liked a post that far.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I mean, I don't idare of it he would do.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't know. I mean, if that's what the report was,
I don't know. I don't know. Okay, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I could see I could easily see him looking at
what's going on on social media and maybe his thumb
might have got stuck on the post or something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and he didn't really page that.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It's weird. I hate how it happens, what it's comprised of.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I just I feel like, is that where we're at nowadays,
where NFL head coaches are setting their subliminal messages through
what they're liking on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's what sounds like in this case.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I just look change. I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, it is. It has changed, changed, it has changed.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But one thing we do know for certain is that
the Raiders are moving on from Davante Adams, and Davante
Adams hasn't said anything at least in that that SoundBite
that we just won seven.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, there wasn't that one seventh. He didn't, he didn't
define it. He didn't he didn't claim anything. You know,
he didn't say I would love to play on a
Super Bowl contending team. He didn't say anything. He just said,
I can't control what I can control.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I'm glad you're bringing that up, LeVar, because it's time
for another round of Jonas. What are the odds seven
that Tay Adams goes to?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now this should be noted here. Do we have any
theme music we can throw on this? A little like
gambling would pick up on that little soap. Now it
should be noted these are not courtesy of our good
friends at Draft Kings, So these are just kind of
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being thrown out their courtesy of bet Online. I want
to be clear on that, so everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
The page here clear we're talking about So this is.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Davante Adams, Tay Adams one to seven, you know, Fresno
State Bulldog, whatever you want to call him. These are
the odds for his next team. Now do you want
me to start from five all the way to one
or do you want to go one to five? You guys,
I just guess. Okay, take a whirl.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Okay, the New York Chats.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They are the favorite at place one fifteen. Next team
for Tay.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That, like I said, I mean, why not stay in
New York? The New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
All right, let me go all the way down to
page fourteen for that. Let me get there. It should
be here.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
They are at fifty to one.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They are actually right behind the New York Knicks as
the most likely landing spot for the for tay or
one seven if you will.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
So, I don't want, I don't want ni. Kansas City
Chiefs third on this list.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
By the way, do you actually think the Raiders would
deal him to Kansas City?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's the best offer back in return? Right, Okay, that
would be fun. I mean he did he does owe
Kansas City something. He shoved that that photographer down a
couple of years ago when the Raiders all right, LeVar,
who's what else?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
For te?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Here?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Where else?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
For t.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Maybe the Patriots, the New England Patriots.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Let me get all the way down down.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
To page sixty, right right behind the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Sure one.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Call yourself far talk a third person the bar don't
like it when Jonas when start talking bad about LeVar
that like.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
He went far sixty six to one. Are the New
England Patriots? Okay? You know they? I know it's team
with a lot of cap space.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
The Washington second on the list three to one, Hardy
Washington Commandos.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I mean, you've got a lot of receivers out right now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
LeVar, there's another team near and dear to your heart, yeah,
he's out there.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Never they tried to trade for one earlier. The yere
Hell yeah, there's talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Six to one.
Are the Pittsburgh Steelers try to trade four earlier? Brandon,
We got that back up again in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And then we've got number five of all the Rams
the l a Ramsakua.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Is not not get right now.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I got to get two teams that I feel like, well,
I guess this one kind of has whatever one I
was gonna say that the Packers, they've like bragged about
not having number one. He's going back there as a
reunion with Jordan Love familiar place.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And then the Saints so that they have a lave.
But seven to one the Saints are up there as
well too.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah, if you look at the roster like they could
for sure use him, and also they've been competitive, like
they're looking at a you know, potential playoff team.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I mean, don't don't we think the Dallas Cowboys could
use another weapon?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Do they have the money. Yeah, they have no money.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
They could trade I mean no, but they need that
the cap space to absorb his contract.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They wouldn't be able to create with the trade.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
No, it'd be tough, like with a player, like with players,
not not with with draft capital.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
We're gonna swap Mike Parsons.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, but they could.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
You have to. You have to, you have to. I
mean that the person with the biggest cap hits Dack.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
It's like, do you have to trade off one of
like DeMarcus Lawrence?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I mean, I mean the Jets really, the Jets really
do make the most sense. Just because the Hassan Reddicks
situ is not getting fit, he's not playing.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
For the gym's where's Baltimore?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I feel like every time there's a receiver getting ready
to hit traded Baltimore, something like Baltimore could.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Use twelve to one next to next to Buffalo on
the list. So the gem Buffalo, Buffalo Buffo.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So that is the look at the odds.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Actually answer, where's Seattle. That's the team that could use
him the least. There's no way they're that high on
the list.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
So the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They're right, they're right behind the super Soldiers.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No, come on, listen, I wouldn't do it well. I
mean they have.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
DK Metcalf, they have Tyler Lockett, they have Jackson Smith
and Jig. But like they just threw for a bajillion
yards this past week even even though they lost, like,
they do.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Not need another wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So the Seattle Seahawks are on page four hundred and twelve.
They are right next to ye see the Seattle Kraken
and Alison chains also.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Loads of Seattle favorite. So they're at twenty to one.
I mean, the Jets make the most sense, right, if
you can unload Hasan.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Reddick, the Jets make the most like, why would you not,
you know, pull the trigger on that and get it done?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I mean sure, yeah, I mean and low Son Reddick
to me.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That would wouldn't that make it feel like make you
feel upset and dirty?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
If you're the coach or if you're the.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Team that you heard this being talked about, we're going
to play together again, they said it, And then you
got coach talking about guys making business decisions. He's already, like,
you know, he's already got his mindset on trying to get.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
To New York.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I want to go back to the third person thing, like,
is there anything that someone could do to make them
sound worse? You know how I feel? Is Eddie here,
Edie ed you gotta chime in on this. I mean,
I've never known him to talk like he's a third
person guy. Has he always been a tay or a
one to seven guy. I've never heard him say one
to seven before? Like that was that tough for you
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to listen to?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Not if he goes to the Steelers, it would.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Because okay, Aaron Judge, Fresno State Bulldog.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I've never heard him go nine to nine ever?
Speaker 6 (16:07):
No, uh, would you just go, oh gosh?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Well, I mean, you know we have LeVar, He's won one, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To myself as one. I mean I've never referred to
myself as Dick like the third person.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Trust we were a big fun of them all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
H yeah, third person just don't do that. I will
say this though I'm not I hate third person. Brady
knows that it pisses me off. But in this case,
I will defend DeVante Adams because whatever he thought he
was getting in Las Vegas with the Raiders, they have
not held up there under the bargain, Like they fired
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the coach he went to go play for, they got
rid of the quarterback, Like, dude, everything they they sold
him on was not what it was when he got there.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So we don't know what else is happening off the
field though, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
There's you know, there's all sorts of fun stuff that
could happen over there in Vegas, but apparently it's not
going to involve him any longer.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So he don't want to be there. He don't want
to be in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can we just, like, can you call Antonio Pearce and
just find out what happened on Instagram? Liked how did
that happen?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like it?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I mean, listen, Shannon Sharp went on live and didn't
know it.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, so maybe it was a sort of incident, you know,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Maybe he was doing the same thing at the moment
and it just just stumped it.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Tell me what happened. He clicked on to the social
media channel. It's probably ig that was the post that
was up. He didn't realize that he had clicked on
it and had his finger on it, and then he
hit one more time to scroll and.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
He liked it.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Or is this the new version for coaches where when
players want to be try what do they do? Scrub
scrub social Yeah, so maybe the new version for coaches
is like, oh, before you even get to scrub it,
I'm gonna like it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Because it's not like you're gonna get the team to
scrub their Instagram account of that player.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
So you just start liking stuff out there. I mean
then that way the.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Player has to go scrub his so it's like a
Instagram off, you know, just back and forth like scrubbing, liking.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And I bet you Mike McDaniel was on social media,
what do.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You feel like, Yeah, how do you think he would
explain it? I don't though, like if he had to
explain it, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He would sound like, Uh, well, you know, guys, I
just I was, you know, I was up late. I
was thinking about the game, you know, and I just
I couldn't sleep and I found myself, you know, walking
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down the hallway to get a glass of milk, was
looking at my social media and I just felt as though,
you know, you know, that that was that was the
post that I was going to like.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You know, you know when you do depression, you know,
it sounds like Larry Merchant if he vaped, that's what
It sounds like a lot.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Of pausing.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Merchant. Yeah, Laurie.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Did you did you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Things that you were going to uh bite his air
in the round and then I was a little younger,
i'd kicked your ass, okay, but.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, you know it's real clear that that Antonio Pierce
got ahold of his I T and he was flipping
through it.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And you know, you know, early in the round he
got to hear where there's a light.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Then there was a dislike that he just realized, oh
screw it, I'm just gonna go to the body until
we get to the final ten seconds and I'm going
to go up top and then I'm going to take
a ten to nine lead into the fourth.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So I got a thirty to twenty seven into the
fourth round. Jam. That's my favorite part.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is the end.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh man, I miss HBO boxing, But much like DeVante
Adams in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that'll be the end of that and we'll keep
you posted as soon as this trade gets worked out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
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Speaker 5 (20:45):
What the hell is going on with Cam Rising?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Brady?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Is this thing going to get sorted out? Or who knows?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I mean, for those of you on the national scene
who aren't aware of Cam Rising, He's been around college
football for a while the year now.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
In college football, he's twenty five years old.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
There's I think there's like eight starting quarterbacks maybe nine
in the NFL that are actually younger than him. So
kind of crazy to think about. But he's had a
very successful career. I mean, you go back to twenty
twenty one. You know, he led the Utes to consecutive
Pac twelve titles and back to back Rose Bowl appearances.
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You know, earlier in his career. However, he's battled injury issues.
Now what becomes interesting about this because we all know
injuries happen, That's not the interesting part. It's the way
in which Utah has got about handling the information. And
there's a lot of people who are getting just tired
of it at this point, and there's no mandate in
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college football unless you're in a conference that chooses to
do so, like the SEC, which has more of an
NFL style injury report. Even the Big Ten is pushing
more to have more of an NFL injury style report.
And so this really comes down to the Big twelve
and probably Brett your Mark, their commissioner, finally forcing teams
to say, look, man, like, we need injury status on
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these players and to be legitimate, and there's penalties if not.
Because for someone like Cam Rising, the last season he
played one hundred percent without injury. It was twenty twenty one,
and again these sort of things happened. But what happened
was in twenty twenty two, after they won the Pack twelve,
they go to the Rolls Bowl. They played against Penn State.
Your guys, he tore up his knee.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He got hurt.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yep, he tore up his knee.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
And the tough part was is I remember going into
the twenty twenty three season, sitting down and talking to
him before the season back then at the Pat twelve
media days, and he was walking around and kind of
assured me that he, you know, might be playing all
this stuff for a talking about some of the matchups
they had didn't play. In fact, it took him six
hundred and six days until this year's season oprah, So
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obviously they.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Were patient with him.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
He got an additional year of eligibility, and that happens,
you know, sort of thing happens. But outside of the
season opener, he then gets hurt playing against Baylor, cuts
his hand on I believe the water cooler when he
got hit knocked out of bounce.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
And now every.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Single week it has been a week to week deal
of whether or not he be starting and playing so
much so, and LeVar, I'm sure you'll find this interesting.
He's been starting for like their warm ups, like taking
the first team reps in the warm ups, but then
Isaac Wilson, the brother of Zach Wilson, has gone in
to start and play instead.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Now this really hasn't.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Been an issue, as the Utes have been able to
for the most part navigate this season without Cam Rising.
But this past week they lost, they actually lost to Arizona,
and now it may put their Big Twelve title hopes
in jeopardy unless they can get Cam Rising back, which
it's pretty stark contrast been a seventh year player and
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all the experience and you know, success he's had versus
a freshman and Isaac Wilson, And so I think there's
a lot of people, myself included, who are in the
media industry who are fans, but also the books. I mean,
even Vegas is tired of this. At some point, someone's
got to do something. Figure out what the hell is
Cam Rising play again?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Dang, Yeah, I don't have too much of an opinion
on it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Why not I don't because guilty Penn State injured his knee.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
We did jack him up. It was early too, it
was early in the game. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I kind of feel like you covered it like there's
not there's not much for me to add to it.
I mean when when you're talking about injury situations, I
don't know because it's not like he's holding Is he
holding out for the league? Is he being held out for?
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Like?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
What what would be the purpose of him not coming
back if he's healthy enough to come back?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You know the issues And I would ask.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, the issue is there's been all sorts of theories.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Again because we don't know anything. Kyle Woodingham is very
close to the vest and all this stuff. Is he
cut his hand, he needed stitches. It's on his throwing
hand that apparently it hasn't been as some of you
know speculated he had an infection. Some speculated that it's
the cut isn't a part that's so bad it's actually
hampered his ability to grip the football and throw the football.
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So all those things could be legitimate. You would assume
though at some point he'd be able to come back
and play.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, he is reportedly being paid a.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Million dollars from their collective to come back for this
additional year. So I think there's a fair amount of
frustration from fans, which not to go down a different path.
But you know, it's funny like NFL fans get frustrated
with the performance of players. The reality is the TV
deals are what ultimately pays the players. It's not in
the ticket sales, not your concessions, it's not you buying
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their jerseys. They get a small cut of that, but
that's not actually what pays their salaries.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
In the college football right now, it's a one hundred
percent of.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
What the alumni, these collectives and everyone else is able
to drum up that ultimately pays these players. So if
you are upset about the lack of a player being
out there, they're a lack of production. Kind of makes sense,
especially if you're one of those people who's donated a
lot of money to a collective or to a player
specifically for his services to go play college football. So
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it's a little bit more understandable actually at the college
level with the frustration that it is at the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Level right now, every conference should be required to provide
injury reports. Now, if you want to space it out
like that.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Agree and look, Brett u remark is one of the
best commissioners in sports.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
He is one of the.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Sharpest best as far as how he's navigated everything. This
is one of those issues that I'm sure they'll be
pushed back from the coaching staffs because they don't want
to have to do it. There's some gamesman shipped there.
He needs to do it, tough ball. He's a stand
up and say, if you want to view us as
the SEC Big ten and we're a power for we're
part of this, then we needed to get up with
the times too and force our coaches and these teams
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to have to actually provide injury reports.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean why Kyle Whittingham would want to keep it
close to the vest and you know, have him out
there and warm ups and all that stuff. And Petros
has talked about this as well too. Just as a broadcaster,
it would be frustrating to call Utah games because you're
not sure who's playing and then all of a sudden
it's a switch right before kickoff. It just if you
want like the money, the revenue, all the conversation to
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your point, if you want to be taken serious, like
you got to play the game a little bit, like hey, yeah,
we'd love to keep this a secret, but you know what,
And I think with the big ten in the SEC,
do it to where they provide you one three days before,
they provide you one the day before, and then a
couple hours before kickoff, similar to the NFL, Like it's
not that difficult and you get everybody on the same page, like, Okay,
(27:47):
there's no shenanigans going on, we don't have to worry
about like everything's on the up and up. But yeah,
you talk to enough like guys that gamble on Utah games,
like Brad Powers, who used to do a show here
at Fox Sports Radio, Like he's one of the best
in the like he's talked about, like how frustrating it
is because nobody knows whether or not you're starting quarterbacks
playing if it's like a backup offensive tackle or if
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it's your guard or something like that. I can understand, like, ah, well,
it's no big deal. Dude's one of the better quarterbacks
in America when he's healthy, but nobody knows what that is.
Just the whole handling of it is odd, like it
doesn't make any sense, but this is the way they've
been running it there. So also, uh, you know, apparently
arch Manning has been dealing at Texas. Levar's absolutely dealing.
(28:33):
Oars guy, he's been dealing, wheeling and dealing. And so
now Quinn yours Is is coming back, and you know
arch Manning's out there just slinging it around, slinging it
at Texas.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So what happens after this?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
You know, we had this conversation before, I know you
said yours goes back in.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Is that you're still standing on that?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yes, yes, I believe that coaching staff has also stood
on that.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Okay, yeah, they're they're ready to get him back for
the Oklahoma game.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
That's ready ready.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
For Yeah, that's what Steve Sarkisian said. I'm not the
head coach, but yeah, you can speak with him.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Shun.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Oh, why do you like Quinn yours?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Bar?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't dislike Quinn yours? And what's wrong with q E?
You know, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'm just what's wrong with three?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm just an arch fan.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I trust me, I get that. I mean he's balling,
he looks every bit the part. Uh and and he's
I mean he's a good little athlete too. You know,
he can run and take off so faster.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And you know.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
What the best part is is they've had I think
the Circasian was saying that they've had yours on the
headset as well. And so obviously that there's the coach
the quarterback, which is a little bit different. But you
can only imagine if you were a college again. I mean,
imagine you're calling in the defense to one of your
backups in college and the crap that you would be
saying to them on the headset, and how much fun
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they would have with that. So I believe I'm not
sure if it was after I think it was after
after Mississippi State. There's an interview where you know, Sark
and Arch kind of talked about Yeah, Quin's on the
head set too, he's having fun with it. They kind
of left it at that, but you could tell exactly
what was going on.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Behind the scenes, just busting his balls, like, hey, you're
getting out play no, maybe probably saying other stuff, you know,
you know about the play play calls.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, things like that, things like that. You know.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
Well, it's a uh, you just never know, right well, listen,
it's uh, We've got a fun one this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Penn State's gotta buy. Uh they get, they get U
c l A. Uh, a little nine am kickoff for
U c l A.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That'll be fun. Then USC two Southern cal teams back
and back, you know, be fun.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Gotta let them know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So it is a Wednesday, which means we got traditions
on this show, and one of those is the old
pe Petros Papa Vegas, the Coast of the Petros and
Money show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM
five seventy LA Sports Fox College Football Analyst, and you
can get them on X at the old p Petro's
(31:32):
Good Morning, Happy Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Hello, Good morning everybody. Hello, Hello, got your theme song back? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:39):
Yeah, you know, I got to say, uh, Being on
social media and all that in modern day is kind
of a drag, especially an election year. But it's astonishing
to me how many people think I've never heard the
Steven Sagall dancehall song. Like every week somebody she's like,
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did you know that Stephen Sagal did a dancehall song?
You love Stephen Sagal? You know about reggae? How did
this get by you? And the answer is it didn't know.
It has never gotten by me. Every week somebody thinks
it's a new revelation.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Now was that it's the wrong answer?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Buzzer?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, oh now did you? I was unaworthy? You sounded
a little bit like the Costco Ho. Have you guys
seen the Costco ho? What not seen this? You don't
know the Costco ho?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
No, she's like an Instagram's it's an Asian girl on
a good looking.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Asian girl on Instagram and she's.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
Really excited about all the deals at Costco and after
every single thing she does, she does like a stripper move,
like a squat down, and she goes, eh wow.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
So honestly, you guys can do it.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Pull up the Costco she go by little Hoe. No,
she goes by the Costco.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Maybe she does.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Are you looking at U right now? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (32:59):
Yeah, look at the Costco hoe because she's a hope
for other things now too, because she's kind of exhausted
all the deals at Costco and she just goes through
stores and talks about what it's like to buy this stuff,
and sometimes she takes it home and cooks it, and
she always does her squat down Costco ho move. You
can pull it up on Instagram and play it. I mean,
(33:20):
she's not she doesn't say anything bad or anything. She
talks a lot about Asian food and being Asian. You
guys got the Costco hope here she is.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, her name's Kat.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
That's what your buzzer sounded like, the Costco.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Can we replace our wrong buzzer sound effect with the
Costco hope?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Please?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
One more time? I hear that again?
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Can we play I mean that she does it every time.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's kind of revolting, actually.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
But you haven't seen her do the drop? Do you
see her do the drop? There?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm watching it.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Beautiful, it's beautiful. Oh, I'm saying like, isn't it sad?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Though? Like you wonder like why is my career fledgling?
Speaker 12 (34:16):
Well, you know I don't do a squad and go
after every time I'm saying it, that's why.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You don't like her. H Actually I love where you're going.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I love her going there because I do want to
ask the question, like, do you look at media and
sports medias go? Are people trying to blend the two
where you know what I'm saying, like, like you're out
there as like an analyst for something, and then people
are asking you to like showcase when you go to
the grocery store, or.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Like when you're raising your kids.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
You know what I'm saying, Well, nobody cares that much
about me. You know, I wasn't as famous as a
college football player.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
No, no, no, but you are incredibly entertaining, probably one of the
best entertainers I've ever been around. Well, you're very nice
to say. The point is like I drive a Toyota
and part of.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
It, Hold on, what kind of Toyota?
Speaker 12 (35:05):
Where do you get it from twenty twenty four Toyota
Tacoma reimagine from the ground up. I got it from
your Southern California Toyota dealers. Got a fourteen much touch screen,
three hundred and twenty six hours power, giving you the
torque to move around Southern California from the desert to
the sea. Your Southern California Toyota dealers. We make it easy.
But that's not not right.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
That's not an how they they may want you, like, hey,
let's get some social you know, with you and your family.
You know, let's get some social going so we can
sell more Toyotas.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
It's like, do you really want to see me.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Begging my kids like in shame, like to not scream,
to not fight with each other? I mean, yes, do
you really want to see me losing my temper every
five seconds?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
In my Toyota Tacoma yelled.
Speaker 12 (35:46):
With trash because my kids are like croissant flakes everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I mean, you can imagine showing the video clips to this. Yes,
we want to see it.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It's working stuff.
Speaker 12 (35:58):
We make it easy, that's their But but you easy
on you?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
You are right, you know, there was.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
There was a time that Gary Danielson sat in the
booth and was old and annoying, and no one cared
what he did in his personal life.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Right, it's uh, it's didn't have a dog with its
own society. Don't give me, please, don't get me started.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I hate my dog has his own social media. I
can't different though.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
You're not bringing him around on a college football field
or in state college.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
They might let you do it at state college still,
but you wouldn't do it because you know the general inconvenience.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
It is to everybody the Herb Street dog thing.
Speaker 12 (36:38):
More so, Yeah, it blows my mind, but that's I'm
not Kirk kurb Street, nor am I important.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I just don't think the dog.
Speaker 12 (36:45):
I did take a shot at Herb Street, a veiled
shot that nobody noticed. During the game. I was calling
Washington State versus Boise State. Well, at Boise State, they
have a dog that runs out and grabs the tea,
you know, after that kickoff, So they kick the ball
off the tee and then they play like this sound
(37:06):
like and the dog runs out, grabs the tea and
runs back, and it's for charity, and the dog represents
some kind of charity and stuff. And I say, I
said on the broadcast. I say, I say that at
least this dog has a purpose, Like this dog has
a job at the game. It's not just everybody's job
(37:27):
to take care of the dog. The dog is out
there doing something. This is an occupational dog. And I
don't think anybody picked up on that. Most people were
watching Bama Georgia problemly.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
No, actually, I was watching your game because you said
he was washing the state boys here right right, because
with the running back the running well, No, I was
watching for Matereira. I wanted to see the quarterback in
Washington State.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, he didn't perform that.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
It is probably his worst game right by far.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
I think he makes you know, most of these guys
are mistake prone.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I think that's a big part of being a quarterback.
Speaker 12 (37:57):
Anywhere, but especially a college quarterback, and especially a guy
who's starting his first four or five games, you know,
in a few years. So, and that was their first
kind of true road game. Washington and Washington State played
in lumen Field. But it was like an Apple Cup
sort of dual deal. So, yeah, they got exposed a
little bit by Boise's pass rush.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But I'm so damn impressed with that Boise running back.
I just is he the best in college football?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I believe how many seventy plus yard runs does he
have this year?
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Like a couple of weeks who it was up to
like four or five?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Yeah, average is a first down every rushing attempt. It's
creata and it's and you can look at who they've played.
Speaker 12 (38:34):
But then you say, okay, well they went to Oregon
and he ran for more yards against Oregon than anybody
has in the last fifteen years or something like that,
one hundred and eighty nine there. And he's just got
this weird long speed that's very deceptive. He's almost untackleable.
I think Jake Dickert said it really well. He said,
and the kid we're talking about is named Ashton Gent
(38:57):
and there's no reason he should be running the football
at Boise.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
State, just none. It's crazy.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
Well he was a military kid. I'm trying to get this.
This kid's got to get invited to New York and
he should be well yeah, yeah. And the running back
thing is interesting now because even if you're a great
running back, you might just go on the second like
even if you're like a generational back.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
He's still my kid. Picked.
Speaker 12 (39:22):
My kid picked in the first round, which is crazy
for us because who the running back was on these
teams when we were growing up was almost as important
as who the quarterback, and.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
The guy wouldn't come off the field. You know.
Speaker 12 (39:32):
Now you come off the field every other play, tap
your helmet.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
But this kid, Ashton Genty.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Was from a military is from a military family, so
I guess he was in Italy when he was really young,
playing high school football and they would have to travel
to different bases long ways on military cargo planes to
play football in that country. And then he was here
in Florida and then he was playing high school football
and he was like a slot guy and he became
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a running back like latest senior year.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
The only Power four.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Offer he had was col and of course everybody came
to get him when the portal opened, and the coach
at Boise State said, look, we had one conversation with him,
and his dad figured out the nil thing and that
was it. And then a bunch of running backs that
are not even half as good as him got paid
and the portal opened again, and they kept expecting him
(40:25):
to come upstairs and say, you know, pay me again,
And he never did.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
It's amazing And you talked about the top end speed.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Dude, how about this He's averaging seven yards after contact
per attempt. Like it's just like he's a rear combination
of like speed and inability to bring him down.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Weird, weird stiff arm.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Did they say it was like a bb off a
tank trying to back, you know, and then he's got
these big old legs. You know.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I was trying to think back, because.
Speaker 12 (40:57):
You know, we do the job and you see players
and some of the players every once in a while,
and usually it's a quarterback or something, maybe a receiver,
a generational type of player, and we throw that around
way too much because it's our job to pump these
guys up and sell the moment. But I was trying
to think back of, like, well, what other running backs
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have I called in the last twenty plus or whatever
that are that good?
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Right? And Reggie and Lindale come to mind.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Marshawn Lynch total putting him on that level.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Oh yeah, you got to watch him, dude.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
This kid is watching them right, watching them?
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
Yeah, Marshaun Len, Toby Gerhart, Christian McCaffrey, just guys I
saw in college you know, I saw a lot of
guys that are great pros, you know, Juba, Hubbard, Montgomery,
a lot of guys in the Big twelve, but these
generational type of guys.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
I really do believe he is like that. LeVar, I
think you could have tackled it. Can I transition pets?
And can you help me out? Because I don't follow
baseball as much anymore, especially as it, you know, collides
with college football in the NFL season. But what the
hell are the postseason rules now? Like, like what the Dodgs?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
I don't buy? I mean, how does this work?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (42:14):
If you win the division, you get a buy and
everybody fights it out?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Is that news?
Speaker 12 (42:18):
This always been the case? Yeah, they changed it like
two years ago. There's actually I'm not that good at
it either. I let people tell me what it's like
and I just say no, you know, but it has
been a five day There'll be like a five day hiatus.
And look, we've been through this before. Every year the
Dodgers flirt with or have the best record in baseball,
(42:40):
they run away with the NL West. That didn't happen
this year, Which that's the difference this year that people
have some confidence, right, because they didn't run away with
the division, so they actually had to play through August
and September and act like the games were meaningful. Remember
when the Colts would do this every year and is
(43:03):
Peyton Manning going to be rested or rusty and all that.
You know, it's kind of the same thing every single year.
But what's different about this year is they had a
crazy series with the Padres that would have basically decided
the division had the Padres won it, and the Dodgers
handled them well, and Shoe Hao Tani went off, and
(43:24):
Shoe Hao Tani might.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Be really hungry.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
Seems like he is not physically, but like when he
makes a hit and stuff in the playoffs, he starts yelling.
He's showing emotion. He's screaming in the dugout, kind of
like Manny Machado or Tatis, like showing some edge, showing
some fire.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And maybe that's what they were missing. Now.
Speaker 12 (43:44):
They don't have much of a pitching staff. They've been
devastated by injury, but a little bit of confidence that
might change that. So there's always hope with the Dodgers
because they have the biggest payroll in baseball and the
best record, in baseball, but usually we're let down.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Our boss, Don Martin is very upset, and then he
sends Matt and.
Speaker 12 (44:03):
I like hookers, out onto the road live BJ's Restaurant
in brue House in West Colvina.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Dang, what's your favorite thing to eat at BJ's.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
It's not the Perzuokie, Brady, That's all I think about,
too annoying. The pazookie look avertizing, although that handles so
damn hot. You love that thing, and you all you
do is talk about it, and you've talked about it
so much over the years on artist dishes. Ever, and
beyond that, any time I see one go.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
By, Okay, you explain to people what that is.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
It's azza cookie.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
It's like that's as out of a kettle pan though, right,
it's a cookie baked a pan.
Speaker 12 (44:41):
Yeah, and then they put an ice cream on it
and they throw it at your face.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
It's so good.
Speaker 12 (44:47):
It man, It's very popular at BJ's. My favorite food
is the beer.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (44:55):
I stopped eating there after We've done a lot of shows.
There's call them too many time, which BJ's. I've been
to every BJ's in southern California.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
They every general manager, every owner, of them at this
pretty much.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
I know the one in Cerritos.
Speaker 12 (45:11):
The lady that runs the one in Soritos is like
the district manager.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Then I missed January. You can always get a table
at BJS.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Oh.
Speaker 12 (45:18):
I have a Rock and Bruised gift card like a
VIP card, where like we could just go to Rock
and Bruise and do our whole thing and they can't
stop us.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
That's how many live shows I've done locally.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Hey, what do you make of the cam Rising fiasco
at Utah?
Speaker 12 (45:34):
Well, somebody's finally saying something about it. That's not me, right,
Uh Dennis Dodd is that?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Who?
Speaker 5 (45:41):
Oh my god, it's Dennis Dodd.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
Yes, yeah, the guy who predicted death for the season
when we played COVID.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
But that never got Rich recanted. Dennis Dodd did not.
Speaker 12 (45:50):
Dennis Dodd also got my family in trouble with the
Texas USC.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Before the Texas USC.
Speaker 12 (45:55):
Game with the donors and stuff, he went down to
my dad's restaurant and wrote it.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Here controversial this dodfather. Oh my god, it's Dennis Dodd.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (46:05):
Apon Atlon went after him too, way back in five,
way back in oh five, Jonas. But Atlon went after
Kyle Whittingham a couple of weeks back.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
About the same thing.
Speaker 12 (46:17):
You know, it's interesting because Kyle Whittingham is a great coach.
And I don't use that lightly when I say that,
I'm not trying to be a hyperbolic. He really is
one of the all time greats, and he's the best
in Utah history, no doubt about it. I mean, I
did his games when Eric Weddle was on the team,
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and he was a quarterback and a kicker and a
corner and a safety and a running back, and he
held and they were in the Mountain West.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And I love Kyle Whittingham. I've pumped up Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 12 (46:51):
I've talked and glowingly about him for many many years.
I don't think it matters to him. I don't think
he cares. He'd never been particularly warm or anything like that,
and that's not his job, and I don't care. I
just had a great deal of respect for how he
handles himself and his program, and I still do. But
it's hard to know the inside baseball of the whole
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thing and not feel creepy about the way the Cam
Rising thing is going.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
It's just it's handled just very oddly.
Speaker 12 (47:23):
Every week it feels like and they did this to
me years ago and caused a big controversy, and a
bunch of people from Utah still attack me on social
media and call me names that hurt my feedings because
of this same situation where they they're not forthcoming with
their broadcast partners, whoever they are.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
I didn't take it.
Speaker 12 (47:47):
I took it personal when it happened, but I guess
it happens to everybody. They're not forthcoming about who's going
to play quarterback, even though ninety eight percent of the
people we deal with tell us, look, this guy's hurt.
He's gonna warm up, but he's hurt. He's not going
to play. Please keep it under your hat before the game,
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and we do. You know, it goes fine. We're broadcast partners.
You know, I'm not a journalist when you're doing and
I'm not really a journalist anyway, but you certainly aren't
when you're calling the games. You're a broadcast partner. And
Utah doesn't trust anybody, I guess. Or it's some kind
of weird obfiscation or gamesmanship where they run cam rising
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out in a uniform and they have no intention of
playing him, and then he goes into the locker room
before and then he comes out in street clothes most
of the time, and it's weird. You know, it's happened
for three years. The guy is seven years older than
the starting quarterback right now.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Lisa Wilson's other kid, Isaac. Sorry, I love Lisa Wilson.
Speaker 12 (48:51):
If you guys don't follow Lisa Wilson on Instagram, you
are really She showed her funeral outfit for her dad's funeral.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
It was really special.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Yeah, anyway, Uh yeah, it just it's amazing that that
was three years ago with the whole thing where they
did that to us up on Polose with Cam Rising,
and they've probably done it a dozen times since then,
and uh it's been three years.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
And he might go for an eighth because I mean
we're getting into the meat of the season and he
still hasn't played.
Speaker 12 (49:29):
So I mean, and I don't I don't blame the
young man. I I don't feel bad. I feel bad
for him that he's hurt all the time or whatever
it is. But at the same time, I don't like
the way it's handled internally.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
There, Hey, do you think it will be back at
some point this season?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I mean they'd been a bowl game, because the Bowl
game is.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Coming back for an eighth year.
Speaker 12 (49:51):
There was a report that he had tennis, like he
had locked joke, and we all, like a few of
us bought like I bought, like I went on the
show and it's like, look, he's got tetanus, and like Dion
was like this young man coach Brime sent out a
tweet about it, and and he didn't I guess, but
maybe it was true.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
I don't know. It's all shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 12 (50:14):
But I don't like the fact that Utah uses the
fact that they have a veteran quarterback that may or
may not play as a diversion every single week for
three years.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
It's pretty weird. Well, you're not weird? Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
I actually petros I made the comment that this needs
to come from Brett or Mark, like, this needs to
be something where the commissioner says, if we want to
be viewed like the SEC in Big ten, who by
the way, the SEC now has a injury report twelve.
Speaker 12 (50:44):
Does two, but in Big ten he says he's a
game time decision.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Every week, and I feel like it's not quite the same.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
No, they a week right, Like this is more of
like like the SEC is doing what the NFL essentially does,
and people are.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Still gambling on the game games and it's it's weird.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
No, I get that, But that's what I'm saying is
they need to do something that's more formalized across the
entire sport. That's not just an SEC or Big ten thing.
That needs to be all of the powerful conferences or
whatever conference entity is created.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
With all this, when it's all said and done, it.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
Needs to be more modeled, closer to the NFL. That
would make more sense.
Speaker 12 (51:20):
Like Don Martin, our boss says, your lips to God's
ear and let's and let's do Let's do it. Also
with the amount of conference games everybody plays, how about that?
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Agreed, and let's do it. Also with playing the Citadel
in November. What do you say? Yep? Yeah, more uniformative uniformity.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Get them on X at the old p Petros Papadakis
the co host of the Petro Some Money show that
you can hear on the Blowtour. Lady saw by the way, Petron,
What game you got this weekend before I let you go?
Speaker 12 (51:54):
Oh, I got a Friday night there, nice Syracuse, real
Weirdyracuse who's got a new coach and they're pretty good.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (52:04):
And they have the Ohio state quarterback from last year,
Beckman uh taking yeah, uh that's him, Kyle McCord, I
know a lot about Syracuse. It's a great game, though,
man like taking on special you and LV is great. So,
I mean, Barry Odom's doing a hell of a job,
so that'll be an interesting game. But yeah, McCord and
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like a slew of receivers and a good running back,
so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
So Petricks on the call in Nine Eastern Times throws
a lot of picks. Brady on FS one on Friday night, he.
Speaker 12 (52:38):
Served up like four picks to Holy Cross. When I
was watching the tape and I.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
Was like, damn, yeah, that kid who came in for
Sluka played well, Maik Williams.
Speaker 5 (52:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12 (52:48):
Apparently they didn't care that much about Sluca. They let
him go. And this other guy played played well. Yeah, yeah,
this guy's a better thrower. And I heard Barry Odoms
say that after the game. He was like, I suspense.
Could we be better in the throwing game?
Speaker 5 (53:01):
It was like, oh damn, thanks p We'll do it
again that week.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
There he is, Petros Papadegas here with us on Fox
Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Guys, we've got ourselves NFL drama. We were waiting for
it to happen, and apparently it is upon us. The
trade deadline is November fifth, but let's not wait that
long because the worst kept secret in the world was
DeVante Adams may finally want out of Las Vegas. And
apparently the Raiders and him are now open to the
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idea publicly, and there is consideration a second round pick
and other possible additions added into the package. But it
looks like Davante adams time in Las Vegas could be
coming to an end very very soon.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Var is that punting on the season?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's the first thing I thought about, because he's still
I mean, he's your best offensive weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Right, Am I wrong? There?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm trying to think of if there's anybody he's your
best offensive weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I've heard the rumblings, I heard the whispers that he's
not happy in Las Vegas, But is it so bad?
Who do you hear that from? By the way, I
don't know. I don't really remember where I heard it
was from. You know what I might have saw. I
saw it somewhere. I didn't hear it from anybody. I
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just I saw it. I saw it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Anyway, I see a couple of your tracks. I see
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I don't understand why it would be so bad that
you want to get.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
A trade, because here's here's the thing. Who who's trading like?
You're not?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You're not necessarily going to go to a greener pasture?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Now? Is this an attempt to entice the New York Jets?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Because of that bold proclamation Aaron Rodgers made. If you
guys remember that they end up playing together again. Is
this him looking at, you know, eyeing up a team,
say the Cowboys or something to that effect. What does
he have his eye on? Because if there is a
trade that takes place, you know, one of the teams
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that would make sense that I was thinking about would
be possibly the New York Giants. They they need another
weapon to compliment neighbors.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I start thinking of a couple other teams, but those
teams aren't good. They're not good teams. So I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't know what the end result here is the
fact that you know, now it's being discussed and it's
being openly put out there that you know, they're they're
seeking a trade, they're open to a trade, and he
wants to seek a trade. It just to me, I
don't know as that say that they are they punting
the season, because I mean, you you're you're still competitive.
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There's still a competitive team. They're above I mean, they're
at five hundred, I believe.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't understand the timing of it after a win.
I just don't understand the timing of it.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah, it is interesting you bring that up, like it's
not like the season's lost.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It's not like the they.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Could have tried to, you know, do this earlier in
the year, before the season started. Maybe there was a
greater trade value. I mean that that's the reality of
it is. There were some teams who most likely would
have loved to have DeVante Adams on their roster before
the season started, and for whatever reason, this I guess
ends up being the timing at which he says, all right,
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you know.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
This is I just I want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So I'm not sure if it has to do with,
you know, lack of It's not like lack of targets.
I mean he's getting a fair amount of targets. Hit
A huge game versus Baltimore earlier this year was his
best game so far the season. You know, Carolina wasn't
quite as much. You know, you look at the Chargers,
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maybe a little bit less, and just he probably sees
the running on the wall and looking at it saying,
I am, you know what, thirty two. I believe thirty
one somewhere there almost thirty two, and wants to be
somewhere at the end of his career.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
We have it he has a shot to compete as
a playoff.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Team, and maybe he doesn't feel like the Raiders are
a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He was talking with Kay Adams. No relation. I just
want to make that clear to everybody. And apparently there's
some post that went viral.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Again.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm not trying to, you know, stir the pod anymore, LeVar.
I'm not trying to get anybody dirty on any of
this stuff, and I don't want to smear anything around here.
But he was talking with Kay Adams because apparently there
was a post that was put up that don't be
surprised if DeVante Adams has played his fine game as
a Raider and Antonio Peers his Instagram account happened to
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like the post and some people took note of that,
and she asked him about it, so he responded to
that and then also talked about just where he's at
from a mental standpoint with these rumors that are out there.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
So the big story happens where they think your coach
or your coach Jed, I actually don't know, likes this
post about you getting traded. How soon did you hear
from coach?
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Yeah, Ivan, I haven't heard from him. I haven't. I
haven't talked to him, so I haven't. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (05:33):
I don't really know exactly what that was about. Obviously,
I got you know, social media as a beast, so
there's a lot of people out there that saw it
and you know, wondering what's going on and people reaching out.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't spoke to him. Honestly, it's
hard to.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
Comment on and I'm sure you would you would imagine
as such, but it's it's one of those situations where
I just keep my head down and keep doing my
thing and uh, you know, let the let fall what
they make as a answer that, but I haven't. There's
been no company of communication with anybody from the team
since since then became a thing.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
But you know, it's kind of just like the weekly.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
Yeah, so we'll take I think, you know, there's always
some sort of drama, but at the end of the day,
one seven doesn't create any of it. So people can
say what they want. But I'm just chilling, trying to
be the model for you know, not stirring the pot
and just just locking in and doing what I gotta do.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
A lot of people think you you may never play
another down as a raider.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
What would you say that.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
All I can control is this this talk we're having
right here, and then after we're done with this, all
I can control is the next thing that I'm wanting.
So I'm gonna get up in a minute and nice
work out in and that's all I can control.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
If it was it was as Tay always been a
third person guy.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, so what that means do you want to be
there or not say you want to be there?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Say say you want to be there? Or say you
don't want to be there.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I mean, you have the opportunity to say it now
and no one's going to have an issue with it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Just say it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They were talking, Antonio Appierce was talking about business decisions,
and everybody was wondering who he was talking about. And
DeVante Adams hasn't suited up since, so I'm just saying,
maybe that's where this kind of started to veer off.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, he also said we're going to make business decisions.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, so and now we see we see these reports,
so maybe it has become evident as to who he
was discussing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
By the way, I'd also like to answer the question, Yes,
he has played his final game as a Raider. He
was scratched this past week. He's not playing again until
he gets dealt. They're gonna keep him healthy. It's gone,
it's done.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I do think it's interesting though that. I mean, I
didn't see the incident on Instagram. I'm not one that
follows social media that closely, So did Antonio Pierce really
like something about getting traded?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's apparently what I was taking notice. There are people
noted that he liked a post that far.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I mean, I don't idare of it he would do.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't know. I mean, if that's what the report was,
I don't know. I don't know. Okay, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I could see I could easily see him looking at
what's going on on social media and maybe his thumb
might have got stuck on the post or something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and he didn't really page that.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It's weird. I hate how it happens, what it's comprised of.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I just I feel like, is that where we're at nowadays,
where NFL head coaches are setting their subliminal messages through
what they're liking on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's what sounds like in this case.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I just look change. I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, it is. It has changed, changed, it has changed.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But one thing we do know for certain is that
the Raiders are moving on from Davante Adams, and Davante
Adams hasn't said anything at least in that that SoundBite
that we just won seven.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, there wasn't that one seventh. He didn't, he didn't
define it. He didn't he didn't claim anything. You know,
he didn't say I would love to play on a
Super Bowl contending team. He didn't say anything. He just said,
I can't control what I can control.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I'm glad you're bringing that up, LeVar, because it's time
for another round of Jonas. What are the odds seven
that Tay Adams goes to?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now this should be noted here. Do we have any
theme music we can throw on this? A little like
gambling would pick up on that little soap. Now it
should be noted these are not courtesy of our good
friends at Draft Kings, So these are just kind of
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being thrown out their courtesy of bet Online. I want
to be clear on that, so everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
The page here clear we're talking about So this is.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Davante Adams, Tay Adams one to seven, you know, Fresno
State Bulldog, whatever you want to call him. These are
the odds for his next team. Now do you want
me to start from five all the way to one
or do you want to go one to five? You guys,
I just guess. Okay, take a whirl.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Okay, the New York Chats.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They are the favorite at place one fifteen. Next team
for Tay.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That, like I said, I mean, why not stay in
New York? The New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
All right, let me go all the way down to
page fourteen for that. Let me get there. It should
be here.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
They are at fifty to one.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They are actually right behind the New York Knicks as
the most likely landing spot for the for tay or
one seven if you will.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
So, I don't want, I don't want ni. Kansas City
Chiefs third on this list.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
By the way, do you actually think the Raiders would
deal him to Kansas City?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's the best offer back in return? Right, Okay, that
would be fun. I mean he did he does owe
Kansas City something. He shoved that that photographer down a
couple of years ago when the Raiders all right, LeVar,
who's what else?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
For te?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Here?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Where else?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
For t.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Maybe the Patriots, the New England Patriots.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Let me get all the way down down.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
To page sixty, right right behind the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Sure one.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Call yourself far talk a third person the bar don't
like it when Jonas when start talking bad about LeVar
that like.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
He went far sixty six to one. Are the New
England Patriots? Okay? You know they? I know it's team
with a lot of cap space.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
The Washington second on the list three to one, Hardy
Washington Commandos.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I mean, you've got a lot of receivers out right now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
LeVar, there's another team near and dear to your heart, yeah,
he's out there.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Never they tried to trade for one earlier. The yere
Hell yeah, there's talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Six to one.
Are the Pittsburgh Steelers try to trade four earlier? Brandon,
We got that back up again in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And then we've got number five of all the Rams
the l a Ramsakua.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Is not not get right now.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I got to get two teams that I feel like, well,
I guess this one kind of has whatever one I
was gonna say that the Packers, they've like bragged about
not having number one. He's going back there as a
reunion with Jordan Love familiar place.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And then the Saints so that they have a lave.
But seven to one the Saints are up there as
well too.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah, if you look at the roster like they could
for sure use him, and also they've been competitive, like
they're looking at a you know, potential playoff team.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I mean, don't don't we think the Dallas Cowboys could
use another weapon?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Do they have the money. Yeah, they have no money.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
They could trade I mean no, but they need that
the cap space to absorb his contract.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They wouldn't be able to create with the trade.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
No, it'd be tough, like with a player, like with players,
not not with with draft capital.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
We're gonna swap Mike Parsons.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, but they could.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
You have to. You have to, you have to. I
mean that the person with the biggest cap hits Dack.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
It's like, do you have to trade off one of
like DeMarcus Lawrence?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I mean, I mean the Jets really, the Jets really
do make the most sense. Just because the Hassan Reddicks
situ is not getting fit, he's not playing.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
For the gym's where's Baltimore?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I feel like every time there's a receiver getting ready
to hit traded Baltimore, something like Baltimore could.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Use twelve to one next to next to Buffalo on
the list. So the gem Buffalo, Buffalo Buffo.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So that is the look at the odds.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Actually answer, where's Seattle. That's the team that could use
him the least. There's no way they're that high on
the list.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
So the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They're right, they're right behind the super Soldiers.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No, come on, listen, I wouldn't do it well. I
mean they have.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
DK Metcalf, they have Tyler Lockett, they have Jackson Smith
and Jig. But like they just threw for a bajillion
yards this past week even even though they lost, like,
they do.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Not need another wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So the Seattle Seahawks are on page four hundred and twelve.
They are right next to ye see the Seattle Kraken
and Alison chains also.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Loads of Seattle favorite. So they're at twenty to one.
I mean, the Jets make the most sense, right, if
you can unload Hasan.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Reddick, the Jets make the most like, why would you not,
you know, pull the trigger on that and get it done?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I mean sure, yeah, I mean and low Son Reddick
to me.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That would wouldn't that make it feel like make you
feel upset and dirty?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
If you're the coach or if you're the.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Team that you heard this being talked about, we're going
to play together again, they said it, And then you
got coach talking about guys making business decisions. He's already, like,
you know, he's already got his mindset on trying to get.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
To New York.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I want to go back to the third person thing, like,
is there anything that someone could do to make them
sound worse? You know how I feel? Is Eddie here,
Edie ed you gotta chime in on this. I mean,
I've never known him to talk like he's a third
person guy. Has he always been a tay or a
one to seven guy. I've never heard him say one
to seven before? Like that was that tough for you
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to listen to?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Not if he goes to the Steelers, it would.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Because okay, Aaron Judge, Fresno State Bulldog.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I've never heard him go nine to nine ever?
Speaker 6 (16:07):
No, uh, would you just go, oh gosh?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Well, I mean, you know we have LeVar, He's won one, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To myself as one. I mean I've never referred to
myself as Dick like the third person.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Trust we were a big fun of them all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
H yeah, third person just don't do that. I will
say this though I'm not I hate third person. Brady
knows that it pisses me off. But in this case,
I will defend DeVante Adams because whatever he thought he
was getting in Las Vegas with the Raiders, they have
not held up there under the bargain, Like they fired
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the coach he went to go play for, they got
rid of the quarterback, Like, dude, everything they they sold
him on was not what it was when he got there.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So we don't know what else is happening off the
field though, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
There's you know, there's all sorts of fun stuff that
could happen over there in Vegas, but apparently it's not
going to involve him any longer.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So he don't want to be there. He don't want
to be in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can we just, like, can you call Antonio Pearce and
just find out what happened on Instagram? Liked how did
that happen?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like it?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I mean, listen, Shannon Sharp went on live and didn't
know it.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, so maybe it was a sort of incident, you know,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Maybe he was doing the same thing at the moment
and it just just stumped it.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Tell me what happened. He clicked on to the social
media channel. It's probably ig that was the post that
was up. He didn't realize that he had clicked on
it and had his finger on it, and then he
hit one more time to scroll and.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
He liked it.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Or is this the new version for coaches where when
players want to be try what do they do? Scrub
scrub social Yeah, so maybe the new version for coaches
is like, oh, before you even get to scrub it,
I'm gonna like it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Because it's not like you're gonna get the team to
scrub their Instagram account of that player.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
So you just start liking stuff out there. I mean
then that way the.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Player has to go scrub his so it's like a
Instagram off, you know, just back and forth like scrubbing, liking.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And I bet you Mike McDaniel was on social media,
what do.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You feel like, Yeah, how do you think he would
explain it? I don't though, like if he had to
explain it, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He would sound like, Uh, well, you know, guys, I
just I was, you know, I was up late. I
was thinking about the game, you know, and I just
I couldn't sleep and I found myself, you know, walking
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down the hallway to get a glass of milk, was
looking at my social media and I just felt as though,
you know, you know, that that was that was the
post that I was going to like.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You know, you know when you do depression, you know,
it sounds like Larry Merchant if he vaped, that's what
It sounds like a lot.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Of pausing.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Merchant. Yeah, Laurie.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Did you did you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Things that you were going to uh bite his air
in the round and then I was a little younger,
i'd kicked your ass, okay, but.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, you know it's real clear that that Antonio Pierce
got ahold of his I T and he was flipping
through it.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And you know, you know, early in the round he
got to hear where there's a light.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Then there was a dislike that he just realized, oh
screw it, I'm just gonna go to the body until
we get to the final ten seconds and I'm going
to go up top and then I'm going to take
a ten to nine lead into the fourth.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So I got a thirty to twenty seven into the
fourth round. Jam. That's my favorite part.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is the end.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh man, I miss HBO boxing, But much like DeVante
Adams in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that'll be the end of that and we'll keep
you posted as soon as this trade gets worked out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
What the hell is going on with Cam Rising?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Brady?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Is this thing going to get sorted out? Or who knows?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I mean, for those of you on the national scene
who aren't aware of Cam Rising, He's been around college
football for a while the year now.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
In college football, he's twenty five years old.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
There's I think there's like eight starting quarterbacks maybe nine
in the NFL that are actually younger than him. So
kind of crazy to think about. But he's had a
very successful career. I mean, you go back to twenty
twenty one. You know, he led the Utes to consecutive
Pac twelve titles and back to back Rose Bowl appearances.
(21:25):
You know, earlier in his career. However, he's battled injury issues.
Now what becomes interesting about this because we all know
injuries happen, That's not the interesting part. It's the way
in which Utah has got about handling the information. And
there's a lot of people who are getting just tired
of it at this point, and there's no mandate in
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college football unless you're in a conference that chooses to
do so, like the SEC, which has more of an
NFL style injury report. Even the Big Ten is pushing
more to have more of an NFL injury style report.
And so this really comes down to the Big twelve
and probably Brett your Mark, their commissioner, finally forcing teams
to say, look, man, like, we need injury status on
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these players and to be legitimate, and there's penalties if not.
Because for someone like Cam Rising, the last season he
played one hundred percent without injury. It was twenty twenty one,
and again these sort of things happened. But what happened
was in twenty twenty two, after they won the Pack twelve,
they go to the Rolls Bowl. They played against Penn State.
Your guys, he tore up his knee.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He got hurt.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yep, he tore up his knee.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
And the tough part was is I remember going into
the twenty twenty three season, sitting down and talking to
him before the season back then at the Pat twelve
media days, and he was walking around and kind of
assured me that he, you know, might be playing all
this stuff for a talking about some of the matchups
they had didn't play. In fact, it took him six
hundred and six days until this year's season oprah, So
(22:55):
obviously they.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Were patient with him.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
He got an additional year of eligibility, and that happens,
you know, sort of thing happens. But outside of the
season opener, he then gets hurt playing against Baylor, cuts
his hand on I believe the water cooler when he
got hit knocked out of bounce.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
And now every.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Single week it has been a week to week deal
of whether or not he be starting and playing so
much so, and LeVar, I'm sure you'll find this interesting.
He's been starting for like their warm ups, like taking
the first team reps in the warm ups, but then
Isaac Wilson, the brother of Zach Wilson, has gone in
to start and play instead.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Now this really hasn't.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Been an issue, as the Utes have been able to
for the most part navigate this season without Cam Rising.
But this past week they lost, they actually lost to Arizona,
and now it may put their Big Twelve title hopes
in jeopardy unless they can get Cam Rising back, which
it's pretty stark contrast been a seventh year player and
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all the experience and you know, success he's had versus
a freshman and Isaac Wilson, And so I think there's
a lot of people, myself included, who are in the
media industry who are fans, but also the books. I mean,
even Vegas is tired of this. At some point, someone's
got to do something. Figure out what the hell is
Cam Rising play again?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Dang, Yeah, I don't have too much of an opinion
on it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Why not I don't because guilty Penn State injured his knee.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
We did jack him up. It was early too, it
was early in the game. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I kind of feel like you covered it like there's
not there's not much for me to add to it.
I mean when when you're talking about injury situations, I
don't know because it's not like he's holding Is he
holding out for the league? Is he being held out for?
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Like?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
What what would be the purpose of him not coming
back if he's healthy enough to come back?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You know the issues And I would ask.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, the issue is there's been all sorts of theories.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Again because we don't know anything. Kyle Woodingham is very
close to the vest and all this stuff. Is he
cut his hand, he needed stitches. It's on his throwing
hand that apparently it hasn't been as some of you
know speculated he had an infection. Some speculated that it's
the cut isn't a part that's so bad it's actually
hampered his ability to grip the football and throw the football.
(25:20):
So all those things could be legitimate. You would assume
though at some point he'd be able to come back
and play.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, he is reportedly being paid a.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Million dollars from their collective to come back for this
additional year. So I think there's a fair amount of
frustration from fans, which not to go down a different path.
But you know, it's funny like NFL fans get frustrated
with the performance of players. The reality is the TV
deals are what ultimately pays the players. It's not in
the ticket sales, not your concessions, it's not you buying
(25:50):
their jerseys. They get a small cut of that, but
that's not actually what pays their salaries.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
In the college football right now, it's a one hundred
percent of.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
What the alumni, these collectives and everyone else is able
to drum up that ultimately pays these players. So if
you are upset about the lack of a player being
out there, they're a lack of production. Kind of makes sense,
especially if you're one of those people who's donated a
lot of money to a collective or to a player
specifically for his services to go play college football. So
(26:20):
it's a little bit more understandable actually at the college
level with the frustration that it is at the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Level right now, every conference should be required to provide
injury reports. Now, if you want to space it out
like that.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Agree and look, Brett u remark is one of the
best commissioners in sports.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
He is one of the.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Sharpest best as far as how he's navigated everything. This
is one of those issues that I'm sure they'll be
pushed back from the coaching staffs because they don't want
to have to do it. There's some gamesman shipped there.
He needs to do it, tough ball. He's a stand
up and say, if you want to view us as
the SEC Big ten and we're a power for we're
part of this, then we needed to get up with
the times too and force our coaches and these teams
(26:57):
to have to actually provide injury reports.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean why Kyle Whittingham would want to keep it
close to the vest and you know, have him out
there and warm ups and all that stuff. And Petros
has talked about this as well too. Just as a broadcaster,
it would be frustrating to call Utah games because you're
not sure who's playing and then all of a sudden
it's a switch right before kickoff. It just if you
want like the money, the revenue, all the conversation to
(27:22):
your point, if you want to be taken serious, like
you got to play the game a little bit, like hey, yeah,
we'd love to keep this a secret, but you know what,
And I think with the big ten in the SEC,
do it to where they provide you one three days before,
they provide you one the day before, and then a
couple hours before kickoff, similar to the NFL, Like it's
not that difficult and you get everybody on the same page, like, Okay,
(27:47):
there's no shenanigans going on, we don't have to worry
about like everything's on the up and up. But yeah,
you talk to enough like guys that gamble on Utah games,
like Brad Powers, who used to do a show here
at Fox Sports Radio, Like he's one of the best
in the like he's talked about, like how frustrating it
is because nobody knows whether or not you're starting quarterbacks
playing if it's like a backup offensive tackle or if
(28:08):
it's your guard or something like that. I can understand, like, ah, well,
it's no big deal. Dude's one of the better quarterbacks
in America when he's healthy, but nobody knows what that is.
Just the whole handling of it is odd, like it
doesn't make any sense, but this is the way they've
been running it there. So also, uh, you know, apparently
arch Manning has been dealing at Texas. Levar's absolutely dealing.
(28:33):
Oars guy, he's been dealing, wheeling and dealing. And so
now Quinn yours Is is coming back, and you know
arch Manning's out there just slinging it around, slinging it
at Texas.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So what happens after this?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
You know, we had this conversation before, I know you
said yours goes back in.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Is that you're still standing on that?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yes, yes, I believe that coaching staff has also stood
on that.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Okay, yeah, they're they're ready to get him back for
the Oklahoma game.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
That's ready ready.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
For Yeah, that's what Steve Sarkisian said. I'm not the
head coach, but yeah, you can speak with him.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Shun.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Oh, why do you like Quinn yours?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Bar?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't dislike Quinn yours? And what's wrong with q E?
You know, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'm just what's wrong with three?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm just an arch fan.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I trust me, I get that. I mean he's balling,
he looks every bit the part. Uh and and he's
I mean he's a good little athlete too. You know,
he can run and take off so faster.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And you know.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
What the best part is is they've had I think
the Circasian was saying that they've had yours on the
headset as well. And so obviously that there's the coach
the quarterback, which is a little bit different. But you
can only imagine if you were a college again. I mean,
imagine you're calling in the defense to one of your
backups in college and the crap that you would be
saying to them on the headset, and how much fun
(30:01):
they would have with that. So I believe I'm not
sure if it was after I think it was after
after Mississippi State. There's an interview where you know, Sark
and Arch kind of talked about Yeah, Quin's on the
head set too, he's having fun with it. They kind
of left it at that, but you could tell exactly
what was going on.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Behind the scenes, just busting his balls, like, hey, you're
getting out play no, maybe probably saying other stuff, you know,
you know about the play play calls.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, things like that, things like that. You know.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
Well, it's a uh, you just never know, right well, listen,
it's uh, We've got a fun one this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Penn State's gotta buy. Uh they get, they get U
c l A. Uh, a little nine am kickoff for
U c l A.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That'll be fun. Then USC two Southern cal teams back
and back, you know, be fun.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Gotta let them know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So it is a Wednesday, which means we got traditions
on this show, and one of those is the old
pe Petros Papa Vegas, the Coast of the Petros and
Money show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM
five seventy LA Sports Fox College Football Analyst, and you
can get them on X at the old p Petro's
(31:32):
Good Morning, Happy Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Hello, Good morning everybody. Hello, Hello, got your theme song back? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:39):
Yeah, you know, I got to say, uh, Being on
social media and all that in modern day is kind
of a drag, especially an election year. But it's astonishing
to me how many people think I've never heard the
Steven Sagall dancehall song. Like every week somebody she's like,
(32:00):
did you know that Stephen Sagal did a dancehall song?
You love Stephen Sagal? You know about reggae? How did
this get by you? And the answer is it didn't know.
It has never gotten by me. Every week somebody thinks
it's a new revelation.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Now was that it's the wrong answer?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Buzzer?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, oh now did you? I was unaworthy? You sounded
a little bit like the Costco Ho. Have you guys
seen the Costco ho? What not seen this? You don't
know the Costco ho?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
No, she's like an Instagram's it's an Asian girl on
a good looking.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Asian girl on Instagram and she's.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
Really excited about all the deals at Costco and after
every single thing she does, she does like a stripper move,
like a squat down, and she goes, eh wow.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
So honestly, you guys can do it.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Pull up the Costco she go by little Hoe. No,
she goes by the Costco.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Maybe she does.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Are you looking at U right now? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (32:59):
Yeah, look at the Costco hoe because she's a hope
for other things now too, because she's kind of exhausted
all the deals at Costco and she just goes through
stores and talks about what it's like to buy this stuff,
and sometimes she takes it home and cooks it, and
she always does her squat down Costco ho move. You
can pull it up on Instagram and play it. I mean,
(33:20):
she's not she doesn't say anything bad or anything. She
talks a lot about Asian food and being Asian. You
guys got the Costco hope here she is.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, her name's Kat.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
That's what your buzzer sounded like, the Costco.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Can we replace our wrong buzzer sound effect with the
Costco hope?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Please?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
One more time? I hear that again?
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Can we play I mean that she does it every time.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's kind of revolting, actually.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
But you haven't seen her do the drop? Do you
see her do the drop? There?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm watching it.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Beautiful, it's beautiful. Oh, I'm saying like, isn't it sad?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Though? Like you wonder like why is my career fledgling?
Speaker 12 (34:16):
Well, you know I don't do a squad and go
after every time I'm saying it, that's why.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You don't like her. H Actually I love where you're going.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I love her going there because I do want to
ask the question, like, do you look at media and
sports medias go? Are people trying to blend the two
where you know what I'm saying, like, like you're out
there as like an analyst for something, and then people
are asking you to like showcase when you go to
the grocery store, or.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Like when you're raising your kids.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
You know what I'm saying, Well, nobody cares that much
about me. You know, I wasn't as famous as a
college football player.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
No, no, no, but you are incredibly entertaining, probably one of the
best entertainers I've ever been around. Well, you're very nice
to say. The point is like I drive a Toyota
and part of.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
It, Hold on, what kind of Toyota?
Speaker 12 (35:05):
Where do you get it from twenty twenty four Toyota
Tacoma reimagine from the ground up. I got it from
your Southern California Toyota dealers. Got a fourteen much touch screen,
three hundred and twenty six hours power, giving you the
torque to move around Southern California from the desert to
the sea. Your Southern California Toyota dealers. We make it easy.
But that's not not right.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
That's not an how they they may want you, like, hey,
let's get some social you know, with you and your family.
You know, let's get some social going so we can
sell more Toyotas.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
It's like, do you really want to see me.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Begging my kids like in shame, like to not scream,
to not fight with each other? I mean, yes, do
you really want to see me losing my temper every
five seconds?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
In my Toyota Tacoma yelled.
Speaker 12 (35:46):
With trash because my kids are like croissant flakes everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I mean, you can imagine showing the video clips to this. Yes,
we want to see it.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It's working stuff.
Speaker 12 (35:58):
We make it easy, that's their But but you easy
on you?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
You are right, you know, there was.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
There was a time that Gary Danielson sat in the
booth and was old and annoying, and no one cared
what he did in his personal life.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Right, it's uh, it's didn't have a dog with its
own society. Don't give me, please, don't get me started.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I hate my dog has his own social media. I
can't different though.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
You're not bringing him around on a college football field
or in state college.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
They might let you do it at state college still,
but you wouldn't do it because you know the general inconvenience.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
It is to everybody the Herb Street dog thing.
Speaker 12 (36:38):
More so, Yeah, it blows my mind, but that's I'm
not Kirk kurb Street, nor am I important.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I just don't think the dog.
Speaker 12 (36:45):
I did take a shot at Herb Street, a veiled
shot that nobody noticed. During the game. I was calling
Washington State versus Boise State. Well, at Boise State, they
have a dog that runs out and grabs the tea,
you know, after that kickoff, So they kick the ball
off the tee and then they play like this sound
(37:06):
like and the dog runs out, grabs the tea and
runs back, and it's for charity, and the dog represents
some kind of charity and stuff. And I say, I
said on the broadcast. I say, I say that at
least this dog has a purpose, Like this dog has
a job at the game. It's not just everybody's job
(37:27):
to take care of the dog. The dog is out
there doing something. This is an occupational dog. And I
don't think anybody picked up on that. Most people were
watching Bama Georgia problemly.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
No, actually, I was watching your game because you said
he was washing the state boys here right right, because
with the running back the running well, No, I was
watching for Matereira. I wanted to see the quarterback in
Washington State.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, he didn't perform that.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
It is probably his worst game right by far.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
I think he makes you know, most of these guys
are mistake prone.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I think that's a big part of being a quarterback.
Speaker 12 (37:57):
Anywhere, but especially a college quarterback, and especially a guy
who's starting his first four or five games, you know,
in a few years. So, and that was their first
kind of true road game. Washington and Washington State played
in lumen Field. But it was like an Apple Cup
sort of dual deal. So, yeah, they got exposed a
little bit by Boise's pass rush.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But I'm so damn impressed with that Boise running back.
I just is he the best in college football?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I believe how many seventy plus yard runs does he
have this year?
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Like a couple of weeks who it was up to
like four or five?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Yeah, average is a first down every rushing attempt. It's
creata and it's and you can look at who they've played.
Speaker 12 (38:34):
But then you say, okay, well they went to Oregon
and he ran for more yards against Oregon than anybody
has in the last fifteen years or something like that,
one hundred and eighty nine there. And he's just got
this weird long speed that's very deceptive. He's almost untackleable.
I think Jake Dickert said it really well. He said,
and the kid we're talking about is named Ashton Gent
(38:57):
and there's no reason he should be running the football
at Boise.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
State, just none. It's crazy.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
Well he was a military kid. I'm trying to get this.
This kid's got to get invited to New York and
he should be well yeah, yeah. And the running back
thing is interesting now because even if you're a great
running back, you might just go on the second like
even if you're like a generational back.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
He's still my kid. Picked.
Speaker 12 (39:22):
My kid picked in the first round, which is crazy
for us because who the running back was on these
teams when we were growing up was almost as important
as who the quarterback, and.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
The guy wouldn't come off the field. You know.
Speaker 12 (39:32):
Now you come off the field every other play, tap
your helmet.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
But this kid, Ashton Genty.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Was from a military is from a military family, so
I guess he was in Italy when he was really young,
playing high school football and they would have to travel
to different bases long ways on military cargo planes to
play football in that country. And then he was here
in Florida and then he was playing high school football
and he was like a slot guy and he became
(40:00):
a running back like latest senior year.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
The only Power four.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Offer he had was col and of course everybody came
to get him when the portal opened, and the coach
at Boise State said, look, we had one conversation with him,
and his dad figured out the nil thing and that
was it. And then a bunch of running backs that
are not even half as good as him got paid
and the portal opened again, and they kept expecting him
(40:25):
to come upstairs and say, you know, pay me again,
And he never did.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
It's amazing And you talked about the top end speed.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Dude, how about this He's averaging seven yards after contact
per attempt. Like it's just like he's a rear combination
of like speed and inability to bring him down.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Weird, weird stiff arm.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Did they say it was like a bb off a
tank trying to back, you know, and then he's got
these big old legs. You know.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I was trying to think back, because.
Speaker 12 (40:57):
You know, we do the job and you see players
and some of the players every once in a while,
and usually it's a quarterback or something, maybe a receiver,
a generational type of player, and we throw that around
way too much because it's our job to pump these
guys up and sell the moment. But I was trying
to think back of, like, well, what other running backs
(41:18):
have I called in the last twenty plus or whatever
that are that good?
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Right? And Reggie and Lindale come to mind.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Marshawn Lynch total putting him on that level.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Oh yeah, you got to watch him, dude.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
This kid is watching them right, watching them?
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
Yeah, Marshaun Len, Toby Gerhart, Christian McCaffrey, just guys I
saw in college you know, I saw a lot of
guys that are great pros, you know, Juba, Hubbard, Montgomery,
a lot of guys in the Big twelve, but these
generational type of guys.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
I really do believe he is like that. LeVar, I
think you could have tackled it. Can I transition pets?
And can you help me out? Because I don't follow
baseball as much anymore, especially as it, you know, collides
with college football in the NFL season. But what the
hell are the postseason rules now? Like, like what the Dodgs?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
I don't buy? I mean, how does this work?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (42:14):
If you win the division, you get a buy and
everybody fights it out?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Is that news?
Speaker 12 (42:18):
This always been the case? Yeah, they changed it like
two years ago. There's actually I'm not that good at
it either. I let people tell me what it's like
and I just say no, you know, but it has
been a five day There'll be like a five day hiatus.
And look, we've been through this before. Every year the
Dodgers flirt with or have the best record in baseball,
(42:40):
they run away with the NL West. That didn't happen
this year, Which that's the difference this year that people
have some confidence, right, because they didn't run away with
the division, so they actually had to play through August
and September and act like the games were meaningful. Remember
when the Colts would do this every year and is
(43:03):
Peyton Manning going to be rested or rusty and all that.
You know, it's kind of the same thing every single year.
But what's different about this year is they had a
crazy series with the Padres that would have basically decided
the division had the Padres won it, and the Dodgers
handled them well, and Shoe Hao Tani went off, and
(43:24):
Shoe Hao Tani might.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Be really hungry.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
Seems like he is not physically, but like when he
makes a hit and stuff in the playoffs, he starts yelling.
He's showing emotion. He's screaming in the dugout, kind of
like Manny Machado or Tatis, like showing some edge, showing
some fire.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And maybe that's what they were missing. Now.
Speaker 12 (43:44):
They don't have much of a pitching staff. They've been
devastated by injury, but a little bit of confidence that
might change that. So there's always hope with the Dodgers
because they have the biggest payroll in baseball and the
best record, in baseball, but usually we're let down.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Our boss, Don Martin is very upset, and then he
sends Matt and.
Speaker 12 (44:03):
I like hookers, out onto the road live BJ's Restaurant
in brue House in West Colvina.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Dang, what's your favorite thing to eat at BJ's.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
It's not the Perzuokie, Brady, That's all I think about,
too annoying. The pazookie look avertizing, although that handles so
damn hot. You love that thing, and you all you
do is talk about it, and you've talked about it
so much over the years on artist dishes. Ever, and
beyond that, any time I see one go.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
By, Okay, you explain to people what that is.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
It's azza cookie.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
It's like that's as out of a kettle pan though, right,
it's a cookie baked a pan.
Speaker 12 (44:41):
Yeah, and then they put an ice cream on it
and they throw it at your face.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
It's so good.
Speaker 12 (44:47):
It man, It's very popular at BJ's. My favorite food
is the beer.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (44:55):
I stopped eating there after We've done a lot of shows.
There's call them too many time, which BJ's. I've been
to every BJ's in southern California.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
They every general manager, every owner, of them at this
pretty much.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
I know the one in Cerritos.
Speaker 12 (45:11):
The lady that runs the one in Soritos is like
the district manager.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Then I missed January. You can always get a table
at BJS.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Oh.
Speaker 12 (45:18):
I have a Rock and Bruised gift card like a
VIP card, where like we could just go to Rock
and Bruise and do our whole thing and they can't
stop us.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
That's how many live shows I've done locally.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Hey, what do you make of the cam Rising fiasco
at Utah?
Speaker 12 (45:34):
Well, somebody's finally saying something about it. That's not me, right,
Uh Dennis Dodd is that?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Who?
Speaker 5 (45:41):
Oh my god, it's Dennis Dodd.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
Yes, yeah, the guy who predicted death for the season
when we played COVID.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
But that never got Rich recanted. Dennis Dodd did not.
Speaker 12 (45:50):
Dennis Dodd also got my family in trouble with the
Texas USC.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Before the Texas USC.
Speaker 12 (45:55):
Game with the donors and stuff, he went down to
my dad's restaurant and wrote it.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Here controversial this dodfather. Oh my god, it's Dennis Dodd.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (46:05):
Apon Atlon went after him too, way back in five,
way back in oh five, Jonas. But Atlon went after
Kyle Whittingham a couple of weeks back.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
About the same thing.
Speaker 12 (46:17):
You know, it's interesting because Kyle Whittingham is a great coach.
And I don't use that lightly when I say that,
I'm not trying to be a hyperbolic. He really is
one of the all time greats, and he's the best
in Utah history, no doubt about it. I mean, I
did his games when Eric Weddle was on the team,
(46:39):
and he was a quarterback and a kicker and a
corner and a safety and a running back, and he
held and they were in the Mountain West.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And I love Kyle Whittingham. I've pumped up Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 12 (46:51):
I've talked and glowingly about him for many many years.
I don't think it matters to him. I don't think
he cares. He'd never been particularly warm or anything like that,
and that's not his job, and I don't care. I
just had a great deal of respect for how he
handles himself and his program, and I still do. But
it's hard to know the inside baseball of the whole
(47:14):
thing and not feel creepy about the way the Cam
Rising thing is going.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
It's just it's handled just very oddly.
Speaker 12 (47:23):
Every week it feels like and they did this to
me years ago and caused a big controversy, and a
bunch of people from Utah still attack me on social
media and call me names that hurt my feedings because
of this same situation where they they're not forthcoming with
their broadcast partners, whoever they are.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
I didn't take it.
Speaker 12 (47:47):
I took it personal when it happened, but I guess
it happens to everybody. They're not forthcoming about who's going
to play quarterback, even though ninety eight percent of the
people we deal with tell us, look, this guy's hurt.
He's gonna warm up, but he's hurt. He's not going
to play. Please keep it under your hat before the game,
(48:07):
and we do. You know, it goes fine. We're broadcast partners.
You know, I'm not a journalist when you're doing and
I'm not really a journalist anyway, but you certainly aren't
when you're calling the games. You're a broadcast partner. And
Utah doesn't trust anybody, I guess. Or it's some kind
of weird obfiscation or gamesmanship where they run cam rising
(48:28):
out in a uniform and they have no intention of
playing him, and then he goes into the locker room
before and then he comes out in street clothes most
of the time, and it's weird. You know, it's happened
for three years. The guy is seven years older than
the starting quarterback right now.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Lisa Wilson's other kid, Isaac. Sorry, I love Lisa Wilson.
Speaker 12 (48:51):
If you guys don't follow Lisa Wilson on Instagram, you
are really She showed her funeral outfit for her dad's funeral.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
It was really special.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Yeah, anyway, Uh yeah, it just it's amazing that that
was three years ago with the whole thing where they
did that to us up on Polose with Cam Rising,
and they've probably done it a dozen times since then,
and uh it's been three years.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
And he might go for an eighth because I mean
we're getting into the meat of the season and he
still hasn't played.
Speaker 12 (49:29):
So I mean, and I don't I don't blame the
young man. I I don't feel bad. I feel bad
for him that he's hurt all the time or whatever
it is. But at the same time, I don't like
the way it's handled internally.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
There, Hey, do you think it will be back at
some point this season?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I mean they'd been a bowl game, because the Bowl
game is.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Coming back for an eighth year.
Speaker 12 (49:51):
There was a report that he had tennis, like he
had locked joke, and we all, like a few of
us bought like I bought, like I went on the
show and it's like, look, he's got tetanus, and like Dion
was like this young man coach Brime sent out a
tweet about it, and and he didn't I guess, but
maybe it was true.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
I don't know. It's all shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 12 (50:14):
But I don't like the fact that Utah uses the
fact that they have a veteran quarterback that may or
may not play as a diversion every single week for
three years.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
It's pretty weird. Well, you're not weird? Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
I actually petros I made the comment that this needs
to come from Brett or Mark, like, this needs to
be something where the commissioner says, if we want to
be viewed like the SEC in Big ten, who by
the way, the SEC now has a injury report twelve.
Speaker 12 (50:44):
Does two, but in Big ten he says he's a
game time decision.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Every week, and I feel like it's not quite the same.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
No, they a week right, Like this is more of
like like the SEC is doing what the NFL essentially does,
and people are.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Still gambling on the game games and it's it's weird.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
No, I get that, But that's what I'm saying is
they need to do something that's more formalized across the
entire sport. That's not just an SEC or Big ten thing.
That needs to be all of the powerful conferences or
whatever conference entity is created.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
With all this, when it's all said and done, it.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
Needs to be more modeled, closer to the NFL. That
would make more sense.
Speaker 12 (51:20):
Like Don Martin, our boss says, your lips to God's
ear and let's and let's do Let's do it. Also
with the amount of conference games everybody plays, how about that?
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Agreed, and let's do it. Also with playing the Citadel
in November. What do you say? Yep? Yeah, more uniformative uniformity.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Get them on X at the old p Petros Papadakis
the co host of the Petro Some Money show that
you can hear on the Blowtour. Lady saw by the way, Petron,
What game you got this weekend before I let you go?
Speaker 12 (51:54):
Oh, I got a Friday night there, nice Syracuse, real
Weirdyracuse who's got a new coach and they're pretty good.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (52:04):
And they have the Ohio state quarterback from last year,
Beckman uh taking yeah, uh that's him, Kyle McCord, I
know a lot about Syracuse. It's a great game, though,
man like taking on special you and LV is great. So,
I mean, Barry Odom's doing a hell of a job,
so that'll be an interesting game. But yeah, McCord and
(52:26):
like a slew of receivers and a good running back,
so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
So Petricks on the call in Nine Eastern Times throws
a lot of picks. Brady on FS one on Friday night, he.
Speaker 12 (52:38):
Served up like four picks to Holy Cross. When I
was watching the tape and I.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
Was like, damn, yeah, that kid who came in for
Sluka played well, Maik Williams.
Speaker 5 (52:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12 (52:48):
Apparently they didn't care that much about Sluca. They let
him go. And this other guy played played well. Yeah, yeah,
this guy's a better thrower. And I heard Barry Odoms
say that after the game. He was like, I suspense.
Could we be better in the throwing game?
Speaker 5 (53:01):
It was like, oh damn, thanks p We'll do it
again that week.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
There he is, Petros Papadegas here with us on Fox
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