November 28, 2024 • 42 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys as they discuss the College Football Playoff Format, Thanksgiving props & Geoff discusses the worst injury he’s ever gone through in his playing career.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with lamar Arias rating Win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh, good morning, Welcome in here as we get you
all prepared for a Thanksgiving ball feath. We are broadcasting
live from the tierrack dot com studios ti irack dot com.
We'll help get you there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping,
free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers.
Tierrack dot com The way tire buying should be. Good
(00:37):
morning to you, Jeff Schwartz, huh tag teaming it up
on a Thanksgiving Thursday. How are things with you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
H fantastic? I was thinking last night as there was
no football on, which was very unfortunate. First time in
like a month. Brian, no Max or just nothing about
how I'm looking forward to frogging my turkey today. I
also throw in some extra legs and wings and just
eating turkey form multiple days in a row. I like turkey.
I know people think like Thanksgiving is you know, turkey's mad?
(01:05):
Whatever I find my turkey is delicious. I eat it
for sandwiches for days to come, and just watching ball
uninterrupted for hours on end Man and Thursday through basically
Monday night, and how excited and how prepare my body
is for that experience.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, first off, I love that you are pro Turkey,
because the anti Turkey crowd has just been gaining momentum.
We talk about steam in the betting world, you know, like,
let's tick last Monday night, right, Like the total in
Ravens V chargers open at about forty seven and it's
(01:44):
steamed up to fifty one. It's a lot of steam
on the over There's been a lot of steam on
being anti Turkey, and I'm not down for it. Just
not me at all.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Not me. Yeah, no, you're not gonna happen. I love it, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Maybe because people don't know how to make turkey. It's
also possible that there's there's a problem with people that
are that are not good around you know, around the turkey.
But I fry my turkey. I just I checked this
morning before I came upstairs to my office. I have
do a cold brine overnight, so I do it in
the I injected with a creole butter last night, and
(02:21):
then I salt the skin and with I put a
little obviously some kosher sea salt and then I put
some larries on there too, get a little little little,
a little flavor on it, and the skin's fried. I mean,
it's gonna be fine no matter what. It's fried in
peanut oil. It doesn't it doesn't need salt. But the
salt pulls the water obviously out of the bird a
little bit. So I have to drain a little bit
(02:41):
of the pan. I mean, like you just have to.
You have to prepare correctly. And I also go I do.
I do lunch Thanksgiving, so I do so that that
that knocks the meals out for the rest of the day.
You eat like I do, the first meal at lunch,
and then the rest of the day. I don't have
to make dinner, don't have to make lunch tomorrow, don't
make lunch on Saturday. It just it's a great system
we have here in this Shorts household.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You got it. You got it set up correctly right there.
That's nice, and that's true. Anybody who's it, we've all had.
I would assume some dry turkey not prepared correctly. And
if that's the only thing you've ever had, I get
why someone would. Ah, No, not me, It's stright. No,
you just haven't had it prepared correctly. That's what it
really comes down to. But what I want to know
(03:24):
is how many hours of football between today on Thanksgiving
and when the Monday night game wraps up. We're talking
Thursday Friday. There are a ton of college games on Friday,
the full slate, Saturday, full NFL Sunday. How many hours
would you estimate you're gonna watch of the ball buffet here,
(03:47):
all of it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, I'm going to take So my parents are
in town, wife is actually go out of town tomorrow
night to visit a friend in California. So it's gonna
be my parents and my kids and today obviously ball buffet.
Tomorrow I have radio three separate times, so I'll be
watching that. That allows me to isolate myself in my office.
(04:11):
And what I can do is one of the shows
that I do, we do our Wonderful Show on Sundays,
and then I do a show afterwards where we're watching football.
So I have a setup in my in my office
where I have a TV like a regular TV with
correct the direct TV that I have basically just like
a cheaper TV like ad dollars TV. It just has
(04:33):
like the YouTube TV on it right, and it's right
above my computer screens. I can just look right above
four box any football right I want above my computer.
So I kind of the setup go where I can
watch ball in many different ways, Brian. And so I
will spend tomorrow, especially now in the morning. Obviously no,
but starting at noon tomorrow, we have very important college
(04:53):
football games. Boise Stay plays in new tomorrow, Colorado plays
noon tomorrow, and then the Chiefs play at three o'clock tomorrow,
and then I got postgame radio. Uh. And so I'm
just I'm just gonna live the dream. And Saturday morning
we're gonna see Wicked. Okay, kids want to see Wickeed.
It's a little bit long. I looked at tune out.
It's like two forty, I like. And then I'll be
home in time watching Michigan, Ohio State and the Buffetan
(05:15):
teams all the way through the night. Oregon plays at
Saturn thirty on Saturday night. So I'm I'm spiritually prepared
for this. It's it's a it's a mental it's a
little TAXI watched this much football, but I also thinking
about how we're not going to have this, Brian, after
this weekend for college football.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's the last regular seas the weekend for college football.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's here ready, Yeah, it's the last full weekend of
the regular season. That's crazy. How does this happen every
single year? I look up and I'm like, it's nearing
its end? How how is it nearing its end?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But we're here, man, this is the last Saturday of
a full slate to college ball.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Only one team is undefeated, Brian.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Works, Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That's Organ. By the way, for those who don't know,
Organ is undefeated. My alba monn Organ undefeated?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What happens if you know between us, is our friendship
going to be on? You know, on thin?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I sufficient washings the points. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm just saying, if it's ducks Irish in the layoffs here, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That would be something weird would have to happen, right
because we would not when will we meet?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well? Well, that's true, right, Like by.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Weird, I mean you would have to win a lot
of games.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, can I get on my soapbox for a second
on that? Do you want to hear this? Now? This
I'm from South Bend. For everybody out there that might
not know this. Okay, full disclosure. I'm from the same
town that Notre Dame is located in. I've been a
Notre Dame huge football fan my entire life. So just
(06:51):
make sure you understand that I need to preface it,
but I really do think this. This isn't just my
Notre Dame fandom, Jeff. It's garbage that Notre Dame is
not eligible for a first round by. It's ridiculous. And
here's the reason why. When it was a four team
college football playoff, Notre Dame made it twice. There was
(07:12):
no issue then that they weren't in a conference, they
didn't play a conference championship game. If they were one
of the top four teams, they were in the college
football Playoff. Now it's expanded to twelve teams, and now
it's an issue whereas, oh, you don't play a conference
championship game, you're not in a conference, therefore you can't
have a first round by. It's bs. If you are
(07:34):
one of the top ranked teams, why shouldn't you have
a first round by. That makes no sense to me
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, so this was obviously a push you get No
Dame to join a conference, right. That was part of
the of the push for this to write make this way.
But this goes to a larger discussion that we we
certainly have now of automatic qualifiers. Are we sure that
automatic qualifiers basically saying that I'll so you win your conference,
you're in and obviously you get a playoff a bye.
(08:04):
Are we concerned that this is the best system, Brian,
because I don't know if it is. And look, this
is look, I'm gonna come on, I know I'm a
I'm now an elitist snob. It's a big ten school,
the organ is. But a system that has Boise State
having a bye is probably not the best playoff system.
(08:28):
It's right, like and I and I understand Boise State,
you guys have won your games. I think you're gonna
win tomorrow. I think you might cover tomorrow. I might
have that in my in my in my account right now.
But that's not the same as Notre Dame schedule. It's
not the same for to be fair of the Georgia's
schedule that they have two losses and you can reward
(08:50):
them with the playoff spot. I'm not against that idea,
Like I think they're one of the twelve best, especially
this given season. Well, the Twelvest seems the country. But
a playoff by I mean if they were to play
right now, you know they would host, they would host.
The five host would be a neutral site, but they
would play with the five seed right in their in
their first game, which would be a quarter final.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Year.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
If the five seed beats essentially the Big twelve champion, well,
right now, the five seed is going to be either
organ of Ohio State. I feel pretty confident saying that,
right Brian, Like, the loser of the Big the chanplegonship
game is probably the five seed. The winner is number
one in the country. Well, the number five seed would
then get the Big twelve champion. Right now, it's Ohio State.
Right in the rankings, they'd be twenty one point favorites
(09:31):
over Arizona State in the first game, and then the
second game they'd be twenty one point favorites again against
Boise States. I feel like the best system right like,
the five seed is twenty one point favorites over the
four seed. Oh No, I feel like the best system
now in this year, and I'm I have mostly been
anti IF playoff expansion because I don't think it matters,
(09:55):
like I don't think it's funny we went we entered
this season, Brian entered the season with basically a playoff
bubble of teams that could win the championship. In my opinion,
I see ivery this has changed for everyone, But it
was Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon in Texas for me, those
are the four teams. Guess who are the three teams now?
They could win a championship? In my opinion, Georgia, Ohio State,
organ It hasn't changed its entire season. Yeah, could Bama
(10:20):
win if they're not a bipolar in a given week? Sure, Brian?
Could Texas do it? I guess? I don't trust their offense.
Don't think they're gona win this weekend? You know? Can
can Old Miss do it? Yeah? They might not be
a playoff team though, so they might. It might not
matter Notre Dame. Look are they better than I think?
They play against Northern Illinois that one loss? Absolutely? Are
(10:40):
they winning a championship? I don't know, Brian, maybe if
you feel differently, but like they're part of that bubble.
I guess they'll be a playoff team. That's like it.
No one else winning the championship. It's the same three
teams that I thought would be the same three teams
to start the season.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'll say this, it's it's more open than it normally,
is right. I don't think multimately though, Yeah, it is.
It's a little more open than normal because I mean,
look at a team like Georgia. Georgia has been towering
above the rest for a few years now, and they're
in the middle of the pack right now. Of these
(11:17):
playoff teams. You know, they might be on the lower
end right now if we're talking about it, I hear you.
But look at the top. Look at the top three teams.
You know, Oregon, I hate to bring us up, but
they just survived against Wisconsin. I know, a lot of travel,
they were worn out, that sort of thing. But Texas,
Texas isn't world beaters, you know, Miami is the three
(11:39):
seed right now. They've played nobody, you know. So is
it a recipe for some upsets and for a lower
ranked team or lower seeded team to have a deep
run and challenge for a championship. Absolutely compared to other years.
Other years it was Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, wake me up.
When they're in the Final four. That's all it was.
(12:01):
And this year it's it's a lot different than it
has been, I'll say that much.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So there is the difference I think this year, Brian,
is there is no elite team, right, there are teams
like I think we agree like Oregon is a team
that that when everything's clicking, can win a championships. And
with Ohio State, I'm very curious obviously sort of see
oregan this weekend with a full weekend of rest, right,
(12:25):
full week of rest, they really late by, see how
they played, because to alleviate some of those questions about
whether or not you know, it's a little you know,
the Wisconsin game was a flute. But then look we
go from the Wisconsin game was was two weeks ago, right,
then you go last weekend, Brian, and look how many
teams struggled to win road games. They all lost except
(12:46):
Penn State. So I don't put much into again the
idea that like winning road games the end of the
culturable season is hard. Winning world conference games, it just
always is. It's always a problem, even you're Irish. This weekend,
I think they're gonna beat USC and I think they're
gonna beat them quite handily, but it won't surprise me
if it was a tough matchup. I mean, there are
seven halfway favorites, but usc Is is feisty enough. It's
(13:10):
a rivalry game. It's on the road for No. Dame
and another road game but us. He's been a home
for weeks like this sets up for well for this
game to be much harder I think than No. Dame
fans would like. It doesn't mean that it's gonna they're
gonna lose, but that's college football. I I if you,
if you do it multiple weeks in a row, then
I think I look at you and say, Okay, that's
(13:31):
a little bit of a problem. You know you but Oregon,
that wasn't the case for Orgon, wasn't These are other
teams that, you know, Penn State didn't have that problem.
So that's that's where I go with this.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, well that's where I think the path that's what's
really difficult. Could I see a lot of these teams
winning one, maybe two games, yes, yes, But to win
three or four if you don't have a first round
by you got to win four games against the best
teams in college football. That's really difficult. So that's where
I look at again my Irish not being eligible for
(14:04):
a first round by and it's like, that's a huge
difference between winning three games to win a title in
four games to win a title. That's just a lot
of attrition. You get tired, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
No, you're not wrong on that. It makes it a
lot more difficult, absolutely right. But you know the system
they agreed to, I don't know. Yeah, that's sort of
the way it means. It's not their fault per se,
but this is the system, and they try to use
their leverage get no name joining a conference. And I
do wonder after this year if there's going to be
talk immediate talk about creating a different system, especially if
(14:38):
and what's interesting is a fourteen playoff would have left
SEC champion maybe out this year, which would have changed
all these things anyways, man, But I am curious to
see sort of the difference in how we approach this
moving forward. If those SEC and Big ten powers aren't
happy with how this turns out for them.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, we can revisit this, because it's very similar with
the NFL. If you win your trash division, I'm for
you getting a playoff, Berth, But I'm not for you
getting a home playoff game on top of that. That's
never made sense to me. And it's similar to what
we have in college football, where I'm not against Boise
(15:17):
State being in the college football playoff, but I'm against
them having a first round by if there are teams
ranked higher than they are. So I think it's very
similar to the NFL. I haven't gotten the home playoff game.
You can't be four wins. Worse, right, you're a division champion,
you know, quote unquote, there have been division champions that
(15:40):
were eight and eight. They're hosting twelve and four teams
back when we played sixteen games. That should never be
the case.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No that I think I'm moving to a more agreement,
even though the NFL. It's funny, man, the NFL and
college are obviously two different games, but they're sort of
becoming this same playoff structure and a little bit of
the parody because of the NIL it's turning them into.
You know, there's just there's just there's more parody, right,
(16:08):
there's more there's more losses, there's more question about who's
gonna win. It sort of feels like the NFL a
lot more than than we've seen in recent years. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think NIL has
a lot to do with that, for sure. It's it's
much different, and I think that's good. That's been the
secret sauce of the NFL for so long, parody, and
we're saying at least more of it in college football
than we're used to think.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I agreed, And that actually makes it, I think more
fun because as you as we mentioned, there's not there's
not a team right now who we think is an
elite like going to win the championship. I think there's
teams again, they're in that bubble for me, but I
I like, again where a couple of these teams are at.
But this weekend, next weekend, the weekend after Man, some
(16:58):
of these playoff games are to be fun because the
spreads are going to be seven points or less. That's
you know that, that's in college football. That's god of
prime upset territory.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, it's gonna be a lot of fun, all right, Uh,
football front and center. You know, the ball buffet. We
got a lot to talk about. That's not the only thing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You're all over this NBA Cup, Jeff. You got some
some hot takes. You want to get out there, can't you?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I can't deal with the floors. What do we look?
I am an organ guy. I understand our basketball court.
Yeah sure, yeah, frustrated. We've actually changed it this year though.
Looks a little better this year. But but Brian, it's
too much.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's a little aggressive, man, it is it's it is aggressive,
there's no doubt. But we'll have some a few non
football things to say. I'd say a strong like seven
percent of the show, maybe, Jeff, non football. Maybe I
don't know, maybe maybe five percent of that is Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Really there's a little bit aggressive.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Butts, is there is there a Is there NBA today
on the on the rundown here? No?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
No, not is there NBA like in like today, like
in in uh in on the schedule on the football.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh okay, just like just games on the on the
calendar on a Friday, on a Thursday. No, there's nothing
on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
There is some NFL today.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, you get some black friends. It's the NFL has
just moved in, like will take this and Thanksgiving will
take that. Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Christmas Day is even the coultortable playoff put themselves up
against a Chiefs game. Yeah, it just seems like in
crazy because the NFL can start doing Saturdays next week
and the NFL just just rules all you No NBA today,
I'm surprised they don't put like the Lakers and Celtics today,
like right at four thirty pm Eastern.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, now, the Commissioner Silver is like that, will sit
this one out. We'll eat turkey at home and watch
the NFL because that's that's what the most of the
public's it'll be doing as well. All right, we got
a lot to do here. Jeff coming up next. The
conversation about this team is about as different as it
possibly could be. We'll lay that out for you. I'm
(19:15):
Brian know, he's Jeff Schwartz. We're in for two pros
and a cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,
happy Thanksgiving to you. Hope you have a fantastic day
and you're starting it off in the early morning hours
on the right foot. Huh. Hopefully it's good right now
and gets even better going forward. We are broadcasting live
(19:37):
from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tire rack dot
Com will help get you there an unmatched selection, fast
free shipping, free road hazard protection and over ten thousand
recommended installers tire rack dot com the way tire buying
should be. You know, Jeff, I haven't been to sleep.
I just want to let you know that right now,
you haven't been to sleep. Just the way the day
(19:58):
worked out over here in Vegas right now. Yeah, So
we uh made the trip in a day basically like
a little more than a day from a cleaned out
a storage unit in Portland where I used to live,
and you know, we made it down here to Vegas.
And so it's just the way the work the week
(20:19):
played out. And then today it was like the first
day we were here. So it's like, let's go to
the strip. I hit up my guy, our guy crack
and Bill Krackenberger. He's a sports handycapper. He's a professional
sports handicapper. He's like, I suggest you get these apps.
It's weird in Vegas, man, you got to go there
in person, Jeff, I don't know why. It's as as
(20:41):
difficult as it possibly can be in Vegas to get
some like mobile sports books. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, they make it hard. Oh yeah, Bill, Bill Krackenberger
by with a scammer. Bill Krackenberger. So the little little
Twitter extra as he had with a fellow enthusiasts, a
gambling enthusiast. Bill's the best person ever. Anyone who who
makes fun or mocks Bill has to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's right. I feel the same way. He's awesome. But yeah,
that set me back a little bit where I'm going
from book to book, and then all of a sudden,
I'm like, I got a prep for a show and
I've just been driving, you know, across the country throughout
the beginning of this week, and so I just started
putting my NFL stuff together, my college football stuff together,
(21:32):
and I'm like, it's like one thirty and the show
starts at three here Pacific time. So I'm like, I'm
not going to bed, which is fine, you know, I'll
catch a cat nap before the early games. But I'm
not missing ball, Jeff, I'll miss all the sleep. I'm
not missing ball.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have to sleep. I'm as one of those people
that likes enjoys sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, I say, I have two switches, you know, I
have awake, I have sleep, and then I have ball mode,
you know, and ball mode will override sleep mode if
need be. Okay, that's the way it works with me.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's been
a little I will admit it has been a struggle
at times the last couple of weeks to stay up
for that late game. I may or may not have
fallen asleep in the last seven in a row. Really, yeah,
it's been it's been difficult. But what's funny. You know,
if MOSTLY know, if I don't have any money on it,
(22:30):
I will fall asleep. If I got a good amount
of money on it, I managed to stay awake. But
we'll see tonight, we'll see all that all that turkey
when eat today. If I can stay away from the
end of that game tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I'll tell you real fast. This
is a Thanksgiving tradition for a long long time. My
sister was so proud of knowing the fact that I
think it's an amino acid. But the the myth is yeah, yeah,
it's like what makes you tired is And so every
(23:02):
year I did this for like five six years straight
because I knew she was so proud of knowing this,
and I would just be like outn of know where,
I'd be like, hey, what is it in Turkey. That
makes you tired again, and she just jumping trip to fan.
It's tripped to fan. That's that's what it is. It's
tripped to fan to make And I told her, like
(23:23):
years afterward, she just laughed.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
What a great sibling thing. Yeah, just just just just
to just to make her angry, just the thing she
had whent on you. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it was great. It was awesome. Well so well.
One thing that I could bridge what we were talking
about to this topic is one of the nights I
was driving. It must have been my days are all
mixed up, but maybe it was Monday night. It was
late Monday night and it was a college basketball game on.
(23:57):
It was, uh, North Carolina, I think was playing Dayton
and I'm looking at the radio. I'm like, it's like
two am on the East Coast. I'm like, what are
they doing. There's the Maui Invitational rate Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And they play in a high school gym. It's kind
of crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, it's wild. And but I thought about that. So
you bringing up some of these games super late in
the Eastern time zone. It's true they are, but it
got me thinking Yukon is one of the teams playing
in this Maui Invitational, right, they've lost three straight games, Jeff,
they're the number two ranked team. They've lost three straight.
(24:36):
And it got me thinking because Yukon is trying to
three peat here, yes, and the Kansas City Chiefs are
trying to three peat. So the first part I'm thinking
is it shows you how remarkable it is that the
Chiefs have as good of a record as they do
right now they're trying to three peat. I know, the
(24:56):
NFL isn't the exact same thing as college basketball, and
Yukon is missing two lottery players and it's Deefon Castle
and Donovan Klingen, and that makes life difficult early in
a college basketball season. I get it. It's not like
the Chiefs have lost whatever the equivalent would be, like
Travis Kelcey and Mahomes or whoever it would be, like
(25:18):
premier players. They lost Trent McDuffie or whatever it happens
to be. It's not apples to apples, But with both
of those teams, Yukon and men's basketball, the Chiefs in
the NFL trying to three peat. Look where Yukon is
right now, and look where the Chiefs are right now,
it's remarkable that the Chiefs have had this much success
and they're just beginning this uphill like Mount Everest type
(25:43):
climb to a three peat.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah. Look what the Chiefs have done this year is
I know people want to knock it because it's not
it doesn't look like it should sometimes. But their job
is to win games, Brian, That's what they keep doing.
They keep winning games, and with all the pressure of
getting everyone's best shot. After this Panthers game, I don't
know if you saw a couple of the postgame comments,
(26:06):
so Andy Reid was, you know, their head coach was
in the locker room after the game, telling the guys like, hey, guys, like,
keep your heads up, which is crazy thing to say
after a win. Yeah, keep your head up, keep your
head up, which is again, it's it's wild that that
part I'd say after a win. But you know, they
expect so much of themselves that this game felt like
a loss because of how close. It was. But he
(26:28):
said in there like you get everyone's best shots, which
is true. Like the Panthers, who were not good this season,
use this game as a measuring stick opportunity, right, This
is a measuring stick game for the franchise, and even
though they were down that game twenty to six in
the first half, score three points, going a halftime, get
the ball out of halftime, all of a sudden, you
score again, and now it's a three point game. And
(26:51):
teams play the Chiefs every week like it's their super Bowl.
And for the Chiefs to continue to play well and
win games. It's not always against wells on the right
word to use, but to continue to show up each
week and win games when you get everyone's best shot.
There is positives in that, Brian. Now when you project
(27:11):
them out for the playoffs and then it's like, okay, well,
how do they play against Buffalo, how they match up
against the Ravens. Yeah, you would like to see the
thing a little bit more of blowouts per se. But
I think what they're doing right now is fine. That
they're goal is to have the one seed and they're
on track to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, No, they are on track to do that. And man,
that's the thing is at the end of the day,
there's still ten and one and think about some of
these injuries. Losing Rashie Rice was a big deal. Yeah,
and they made a move to get DeAndre Hopkins, who's
fit in. Well, he's given them a boost, and they
just find ways to get value in so many different areas,
(27:49):
whether it's special teams or it's just situationally, it's instead
of running the ball here, let's do a little bit
of a jet sweep, and it's just a smart play call.
They just do a great job of putting themselves in
positions to win games. And yeah, it's not a work
of art. They didn't blow out the Panthers by twenty
one points and they're not putting up gaudy offensive numbers,
(28:11):
but they're ten and one. And so the next thing
I thought of Jeff, was this, if the Chiefs are
able to three peat, would this be the best team
accomplishment in NFL history? And so I started thinking. Initially,
my gut reaction is yes, and I'm like, well, let
(28:31):
me check my work. What else would be on the
short list of best team accomplishments in NFL history. You'd
have to throw the seventy two Dolphins on there.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Of course, undefeated season, you'd have to throw the Super
Bowl three Jets on there. Right, they beat the Baltimore Colts.
It was thought to be the inferior AFL, you can't
beat a team, they always get punked at That upset
directly led to the merger of an You're like, that
(29:01):
can't be undersold. So what you know the history of
the league. I don't need to bore you with it.
But knowing all of that, would you still put the
Chiefs unprecedented? Nobody is three peeted before? Would that be
the best team accomplishment ever?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
As you mentioned, like, no one's done this before, right,
So like that that has to be part of the
equation here, right, that this has never been done before.
I mean, look the the you know the Patriots won
three and four years.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it was, right, yep, yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Cowboys won three and four years. I mean we've had
these runs, but not never never three in a row, Brian, right,
run three in a row. So I think that's up there. Yeah,
I think it has to be up there as one
of the best, especially considering that again, and we were
texting about this earlier. Mahomes and Kelsey obviously are are
fantastic as we know and do they do, but they
(29:55):
don't have any anyone else a wide receiver like in
all these instances we mentioned, all these teams had special
players of those positions at running back. I mean, and
the Chiefs are doing this and I get Kelsey, but
Kelsey's in and you know he's in year. You know,
he's thirty four, like he and you watch him play
(30:17):
and he's had a lot of snaps this season, and
you know he he doesn't look quite the same player
now in big moments. I think he is, but you
know that's it's certainly true. He's played a lot of football.
So considering the weapons around them and how Mahomes has
had to do this, and also too, they've had different
versions of the same team. Right, They've had one year
Awards defense, one year, Whard's offense, one year, where's both
(30:37):
one year where special teams this year is number in
the NFL. Like they're doing different ways every week, and
that to me is super impressive. Brian.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, I also think Jeff, it's like in this era
of the NFL when you're talking about free agency, Yeah,
that's a big deal because you just you can't keep
teams to gather the same way you once were able
to correct. This isn't like the old school Steelers who
(31:06):
won four and six years, right, Right, it's a completely
different deal. So when you have a hard salary cap
and you have NFL free agency and yet the Chiefs
are still remaining on top. And listen, this is a
big if. This is a big projection of if they're
able to threepeat, would that be the best team accomplishment
(31:27):
in NFL history? I think it would be. And that's
a large reason why is look at the other Super
Bowl winners. In this era of free agency and a
hard salary cap, there have been some great teams. Think
of the Seahawks and their legion of boom defense. They
won one Super Bowl. They should have won two in
(31:48):
a row, but that's not they didn't win two in
a row. Like, they're not close to winning three in
a row. And you look at some of these other teams,
the Saints. The Saints were really really good team for
a lot of years won Super Bowl like, so to
three peat unprecedented in the history of the league, and
in this era of a hard salary cap and free agency.
(32:10):
I would put that at the top of the list.
If they're able to pull it off.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, you know, I know last year they did it,
and because of the way it went with their offense
and the winning the road games, we sort of, at
least in my mind, I think most people that kind
of cover the sport. I'm sure you feel the same way,
Like we sort of just default to it's going to
be okay this season. But I do think this team
does have a lot of holes, Brian, and I'm not
(32:36):
sure it's going to be okay this season. I look,
if you get the one seed, which is certainly possible
with their schedule compared to like what Buffalo schedule is
down the stretch here, the one seed is certainly manageable,
and then you have to win one less game, obviously,
like it it feels easier to do if you get
the one seed then the kind of the way they
did last year. You know, you win one game against
(32:58):
the four seed and all of a sudden you're in
the change the game again. You know, like it's not unconceivable,
but it does feel. We look around the NFL, the
Lions and the Eagles and Buffalo and even Baltimore to
an extent, like those teams are just playing better as
a team right now than Kansas City is.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, I still do wonder, I hear you, trust me,
I do, but I wonder about these teams the Bills,
the Ravens that will sometimes look all world in the
regular season and they will just yeah, wet themselves come
playoff time. You know what I mean, it's a Tyler
Bass missed field goal. It's the Ravens like, yeah, we'll
(33:35):
have our running backs with six rushes against the Chiefs,
Like no, how does that happen? Like when will these
teams get out of their own way? Because I'll tell
you who doesn't get in their own way, that's the Chiefs.
And that's one of the main reasons they've still remained
on top.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And that's a huge thing, right, is when you get
these moments of stress in a game, high leverage situations,
and this is what they've done this The Chiefs have
always won these moments, right, and that's why they win
these games. Like even like take last week, right, I
was I was at that game, right, so I can
sort of feel it in the crowd. The Panthers roared
all the way back in down twenty six, then twenty nine,
(34:13):
then twenty seventeen, and the Chiefs scored touchdown here you know, here,
come here come the Panthers again, and they the field goal,
and all of a sudden, the game is tied at
twenty seven and you know, un a minute left and
the Chiefs are like, oh, all right, I guess we'll
score touchdown and win the game. Like our field goal
and win the game. But it was like there was
no panic.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
They just went out and did it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeahmes after the game was like, yes, they would love
to blow teams out. It would be easier on the
team if they were to do that. But again, in
those moments, like there was no I tweet out like
I'm looking forward to Mahomes winning this game for the
Chiefs I got to watch in person. Now there's there's
no there's no thought they're going to lose any of
these games. And that is important, I think when it
comes to the postseason, high leveled situations and just the
(34:57):
confidence of the team in those moments. And Buffalo at
your point has not had those, right, they haven't had those.
Baltimore hasn't had those in the postseason. And the reason
why is is Kansas City and this season again if
they go to Arrowhead, I don't trust them as much
if they if again the kids has to go on
the road. Last year to me is not indicative of
what this year could be. If they have to go
(35:19):
on the road. But the Chiefs have the one seed
right now and they're gonna win on Friday, They're gonna
be still again the game up on Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And I also think once you get to playoff time,
there's just such a mystique with Mahomes. Like think about
last season in overtime against the Niners in the Super Bowl.
The Niners kicked the field goal and then Mahomes let
the touchdown drive. And so how's that gonna feel when
the playoffs roll around? There are gonna be some teams
(35:47):
that psyche themselves out where they think, don't settle for
three correct, you know, don't let Mahomes have a shot.
You know what will happen? Right, Like remember the coin
toss when they beat Tampa in overtime and Baker Mayfield
is like, ah no, we lost the toss, like I
might not even see the field and he didn't. And
so that's a it's a real thing come playoff time.
(36:08):
The teams that, man, they psyche themselves out and they think,
don't don't do this, don't do that, don't let my
Homes And it's like, just do your job, man. It's
the old Belichick thing and they get away from that
come playoff time.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I know, but it's easier said than done. Like we
can sit here and talk about like how you but
when you're in that moment and I've you know again,
I've been in this spot a couple of times as
a player where you're just like you're playing a team,
You're like, that's not good, Like no matter what, like
do you just know you feel it feels inevitable what's
gonna happen, and then it happens, and that there's a
(36:42):
possibility of that every time you play Kansas City, and
I think that's why teams game plan certain ways against them. Look,
Buffalo has learned to be aggressive against Kansasity, like, no
matter what, we're going for a fourth. Then it paid
off and they win this in the win this year.
I imagine in the postseason they'll do the same thing.
Will it pay off? I don't. I don't know what
we'll find out, but you have to I think you
have to be aggressive, Like you change your entire game
(37:03):
plan to play then because you're always afraid of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, maybe just don't quite be Dan Campbell aggressive, you know,
like against the Niners. It can be a little much,
but I agree with you. I think aggressive is the
better way to to lean than, you know, than to
be conservative. I would definitely agree with that on the surface.
But there is such a thing as going you know,
(37:28):
like Dan one eight hundred Gambler Campbell correct, Yeah, and
it blows up in your face, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But dude, I'm always like, pro be aggressive if that's
your ethos, and yeah, and I know that it's sometimes
it gets teams in trouble, but I'd rather that than
conservative coaching.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, listen, I gambling wise, if you want to go
money line underdog, I'm for it. If you want to
go five leg all under like money line underdog, that's
a bit much. That's a that's a bit much, all right.
Coming up next on Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe Live from the IRAQ dot Com Studios, Jeff, we
not only have Thanksgiving matchups, we have Thanksgiving props to
(38:08):
dissect as well. Okay, we will do that. Coming up.
He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian know. Keep it locked right
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know.
We're in for the guys here on Fox Sports Radio.
Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.
If you miss anything on today's show, be sure to
check it out. Just search two Pros wherever you get
(38:29):
your podcasts, and be sure to follow, rate and review
it again. Just search two pros wherever you get your podcasts,
and you'll see the show posted right after we get
off the air. All right, story time with mister Schwartz. Yes,
made me think about this because you mentioned forty nine
Ers linebacker Fred Warner. He's got a fractured ankle and
(38:52):
he keeps playing and he's just you know, getting it
shot up, he's getting it numbed, and he's going out
there right, And so it made me think, you're playing days. Okay,
I know you had to numb up injuries. What is
the injury that you were in the most pain after
a game after the shot wore off? Right, Like break
(39:13):
it down for us? Yeah, how bad was the pain? Well?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I have two instances. One I I this kated my
big toe one year. It's a lot worse than you
think it sounds. And I was out for for three months.
And you know, oddly enough, my first game back, by
the way, that season. The twenty fourteen year was Odell
(39:39):
Catch game. I played all season and you know I'm
a big fella that injury. Hell, you don't realize how
much your big toe matters to you until you get hurt.
So I played that game and it was it was painful,
like afterwards.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It was.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
It was a rough, a rough Sunday night, Monday. I
couldn't practice Wednesday, barely practice Thursday. And then I broke
my leg the next game anyways, but that was that
was that was pretty bad. And then when I froct
justiciicated my ankle. That was the next game. When I
did that to my ankle, it didn't hurt Brian until
(40:20):
about Tuesday. So we were so I hurt it Saturday,
excuse me, Sunday, faction, fraction just got my ankle Saturday,
excuse me Sunday at two thirty Eastern and didn't hurt really.
Sunday didn't hurt Monday because we were talking about second
opinions like do I get by the team doctor or surgery,
(40:42):
do I go somewhere else? And by I think it
was Tuesday morning, I was like, I told my agent,
like it's I'm not kidding. Second opinion. I want this
fixed now. It was it was bad. It hurt it.
I mean it hurt a lot. And then so that
next season was twenty fifteen for me, and you know,
I recover heard mostly And there was a game that's
(41:05):
the Niners. We played SA Football. We actually had a
game winning catch by Larry Donnell or tight end to
win the game. And that entire game, I got bull
rushed all game for the bull Rushes, when guys basically
run down the middle of you and try to push
you back, and you know, probably not best on a
bad trying to anchor on a bad ankle. We went,
you know, when someone's trying to bull rush you all game.
(41:27):
It wasn't ideal. And I remember after that game my
ankle was just it wasn't bad. It was a bad shape.
It wasn't good. Uh. And then you just start, you know,
trying to survive the next couple of weeks and trying
to get it better, which it never got better. So yeah,
I mean, you just you just deal with it, though
I mean I don't there's no way to to put
in the words. I think, like, how how much of
(41:49):
the pain you just your job is to play through it.
And find a way to play through it, and then
you have to. And Fred Warner obviously the example showed
he did, I did. I mean, that's part of life
in the big Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It made me think of Deon Sanders his playing days.
He had turf toe really bad. And at first you're
thinking turf toe and dude, everything every move you make,
you can't stop, you can't do anything coming up next.
We think big picture
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with lamar Arias rating Win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh, good morning, Welcome in here as we get you
all prepared for a Thanksgiving ball feath. We are broadcasting
live from the tierrack dot com studios ti irack dot com.
We'll help get you there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping,
free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers.
Tierrack dot com The way tire buying should be. Good
(00:37):
morning to you, Jeff Schwartz, huh tag teaming it up
on a Thanksgiving Thursday. How are things with you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
H fantastic? I was thinking last night as there was
no football on, which was very unfortunate. First time in
like a month. Brian, no Max or just nothing about
how I'm looking forward to frogging my turkey today. I
also throw in some extra legs and wings and just
eating turkey form multiple days in a row. I like turkey.
I know people think like Thanksgiving is you know, turkey's mad?
(01:05):
Whatever I find my turkey is delicious. I eat it
for sandwiches for days to come, and just watching ball
uninterrupted for hours on end Man and Thursday through basically
Monday night, and how excited and how prepare my body
is for that experience.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, first off, I love that you are pro Turkey,
because the anti Turkey crowd has just been gaining momentum.
We talk about steam in the betting world, you know, like,
let's tick last Monday night, right, Like the total in
Ravens V chargers open at about forty seven and it's
(01:44):
steamed up to fifty one. It's a lot of steam
on the over There's been a lot of steam on
being anti Turkey, and I'm not down for it. Just
not me at all.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Not me. Yeah, no, you're not gonna happen. I love it, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Maybe because people don't know how to make turkey. It's
also possible that there's there's a problem with people that
are that are not good around you know, around the turkey.
But I fry my turkey. I just I checked this
morning before I came upstairs to my office. I have
do a cold brine overnight, so I do it in
the I injected with a creole butter last night, and
(02:21):
then I salt the skin and with I put a
little obviously some kosher sea salt and then I put
some larries on there too, get a little little little,
a little flavor on it, and the skin's fried. I mean,
it's gonna be fine no matter what. It's fried in
peanut oil. It doesn't it doesn't need salt. But the
salt pulls the water obviously out of the bird a
little bit. So I have to drain a little bit
(02:41):
of the pan. I mean, like you just have to.
You have to prepare correctly. And I also go I do.
I do lunch Thanksgiving, so I do so that that
that knocks the meals out for the rest of the day.
You eat like I do, the first meal at lunch,
and then the rest of the day. I don't have
to make dinner, don't have to make lunch tomorrow, don't
make lunch on Saturday. It just it's a great system
we have here in this Shorts household.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You got it. You got it set up correctly right there.
That's nice, and that's true. Anybody who's it, we've all had.
I would assume some dry turkey not prepared correctly. And
if that's the only thing you've ever had, I get
why someone would. Ah, No, not me, It's stright. No,
you just haven't had it prepared correctly. That's what it
really comes down to. But what I want to know
(03:24):
is how many hours of football between today on Thanksgiving
and when the Monday night game wraps up. We're talking
Thursday Friday. There are a ton of college games on Friday,
the full slate, Saturday, full NFL Sunday. How many hours
would you estimate you're gonna watch of the ball buffet here,
(03:47):
all of it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, I'm going to take So my parents are
in town, wife is actually go out of town tomorrow
night to visit a friend in California. So it's gonna
be my parents and my kids and today obviously ball buffet.
Tomorrow I have radio three separate times, so I'll be
watching that. That allows me to isolate myself in my office.
(04:11):
And what I can do is one of the shows
that I do, we do our Wonderful Show on Sundays,
and then I do a show afterwards where we're watching football.
So I have a setup in my in my office
where I have a TV like a regular TV with
correct the direct TV that I have basically just like
a cheaper TV like ad dollars TV. It just has
(04:33):
like the YouTube TV on it right, and it's right
above my computer screens. I can just look right above
four box any football right I want above my computer.
So I kind of the setup go where I can
watch ball in many different ways, Brian. And so I
will spend tomorrow, especially now in the morning. Obviously no,
but starting at noon tomorrow, we have very important college
(04:53):
football games. Boise Stay plays in new tomorrow, Colorado plays
noon tomorrow, and then the Chiefs play at three o'clock tomorrow,
and then I got postgame radio. Uh. And so I'm
just I'm just gonna live the dream. And Saturday morning
we're gonna see Wicked. Okay, kids want to see Wickeed.
It's a little bit long. I looked at tune out.
It's like two forty, I like. And then I'll be
home in time watching Michigan, Ohio State and the Buffetan
(05:15):
teams all the way through the night. Oregon plays at
Saturn thirty on Saturday night. So I'm I'm spiritually prepared
for this. It's it's a it's a mental it's a
little TAXI watched this much football, but I also thinking
about how we're not going to have this, Brian, after
this weekend for college football.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's the last regular seas the weekend for college football.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's here ready, Yeah, it's the last full weekend of
the regular season. That's crazy. How does this happen every
single year? I look up and I'm like, it's nearing
its end? How how is it nearing its end?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But we're here, man, this is the last Saturday of
a full slate to college ball.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Only one team is undefeated, Brian.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Works, Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That's Organ. By the way, for those who don't know,
Organ is undefeated. My alba monn Organ undefeated?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What happens if you know between us, is our friendship
going to be on? You know, on thin?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I sufficient washings the points. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm just saying, if it's ducks Irish in the layoffs here, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That would be something weird would have to happen, right
because we would not when will we meet?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well? Well, that's true, right, Like by.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Weird, I mean you would have to win a lot
of games.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, can I get on my soapbox for a second
on that? Do you want to hear this? Now? This
I'm from South Bend. For everybody out there that might
not know this. Okay, full disclosure. I'm from the same
town that Notre Dame is located in. I've been a
Notre Dame huge football fan my entire life. So just
(06:51):
make sure you understand that I need to preface it,
but I really do think this. This isn't just my
Notre Dame fandom, Jeff. It's garbage that Notre Dame is
not eligible for a first round by. It's ridiculous. And
here's the reason why. When it was a four team
college football playoff, Notre Dame made it twice. There was
(07:12):
no issue then that they weren't in a conference, they
didn't play a conference championship game. If they were one
of the top four teams, they were in the college
football Playoff. Now it's expanded to twelve teams, and now
it's an issue whereas, oh, you don't play a conference
championship game, you're not in a conference, therefore you can't
have a first round by. It's bs. If you are
(07:34):
one of the top ranked teams, why shouldn't you have
a first round by. That makes no sense to me
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, so this was obviously a push you get No
Dame to join a conference, right. That was part of
the of the push for this to write make this way.
But this goes to a larger discussion that we we
certainly have now of automatic qualifiers. Are we sure that
automatic qualifiers basically saying that I'll so you win your conference,
you're in and obviously you get a playoff a bye.
(08:04):
Are we concerned that this is the best system, Brian,
because I don't know if it is. And look, this
is look, I'm gonna come on, I know I'm a
I'm now an elitist snob. It's a big ten school,
the organ is. But a system that has Boise State
having a bye is probably not the best playoff system.
(08:28):
It's right, like and I and I understand Boise State,
you guys have won your games. I think you're gonna
win tomorrow. I think you might cover tomorrow. I might
have that in my in my in my account right now.
But that's not the same as Notre Dame schedule. It's
not the same for to be fair of the Georgia's
schedule that they have two losses and you can reward
(08:50):
them with the playoff spot. I'm not against that idea,
Like I think they're one of the twelve best, especially
this given season. Well, the Twelvest seems the country. But
a playoff by I mean if they were to play
right now, you know they would host, they would host.
The five host would be a neutral site, but they
would play with the five seed right in their in
their first game, which would be a quarter final.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Year.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
If the five seed beats essentially the Big twelve champion, well,
right now, the five seed is going to be either
organ of Ohio State. I feel pretty confident saying that,
right Brian, Like, the loser of the Big the chanplegonship
game is probably the five seed. The winner is number
one in the country. Well, the number five seed would
then get the Big twelve champion. Right now, it's Ohio State.
Right in the rankings, they'd be twenty one point favorites
(09:31):
over Arizona State in the first game, and then the
second game they'd be twenty one point favorites again against
Boise States. I feel like the best system right like,
the five seed is twenty one point favorites over the
four seed. Oh No, I feel like the best system
now in this year, and I'm I have mostly been
anti IF playoff expansion because I don't think it matters,
(09:55):
like I don't think it's funny we went we entered
this season, Brian entered the season with basically a playoff
bubble of teams that could win the championship. In my opinion,
I see ivery this has changed for everyone, But it
was Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon in Texas for me, those
are the four teams. Guess who are the three teams now?
They could win a championship? In my opinion, Georgia, Ohio State,
organ It hasn't changed its entire season. Yeah, could Bama
(10:20):
win if they're not a bipolar in a given week? Sure, Brian?
Could Texas do it? I guess? I don't trust their offense.
Don't think they're gona win this weekend? You know? Can
can Old Miss do it? Yeah? They might not be
a playoff team though, so they might. It might not
matter Notre Dame. Look are they better than I think?
They play against Northern Illinois that one loss? Absolutely? Are
(10:40):
they winning a championship? I don't know, Brian, maybe if
you feel differently, but like they're part of that bubble.
I guess they'll be a playoff team. That's like it.
No one else winning the championship. It's the same three
teams that I thought would be the same three teams
to start the season.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'll say this, it's it's more open than it normally,
is right. I don't think multimately though, Yeah, it is.
It's a little more open than normal because I mean,
look at a team like Georgia. Georgia has been towering
above the rest for a few years now, and they're
in the middle of the pack right now. Of these
(11:17):
playoff teams. You know, they might be on the lower
end right now if we're talking about it, I hear you.
But look at the top. Look at the top three teams.
You know, Oregon, I hate to bring us up, but
they just survived against Wisconsin. I know, a lot of travel,
they were worn out, that sort of thing. But Texas,
Texas isn't world beaters, you know, Miami is the three
(11:39):
seed right now. They've played nobody, you know. So is
it a recipe for some upsets and for a lower
ranked team or lower seeded team to have a deep
run and challenge for a championship. Absolutely compared to other years.
Other years it was Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, wake me up.
When they're in the Final four. That's all it was.
(12:01):
And this year it's it's a lot different than it
has been, I'll say that much.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So there is the difference I think this year, Brian,
is there is no elite team, right, there are teams
like I think we agree like Oregon is a team
that that when everything's clicking, can win a championships. And
with Ohio State, I'm very curious obviously sort of see
oregan this weekend with a full weekend of rest, right,
(12:25):
full week of rest, they really late by, see how
they played, because to alleviate some of those questions about
whether or not you know, it's a little you know,
the Wisconsin game was a flute. But then look we
go from the Wisconsin game was was two weeks ago, right,
then you go last weekend, Brian, and look how many
teams struggled to win road games. They all lost except
(12:46):
Penn State. So I don't put much into again the
idea that like winning road games the end of the
culturable season is hard. Winning world conference games, it just
always is. It's always a problem, even you're Irish. This weekend,
I think they're gonna beat USC and I think they're
gonna beat them quite handily, but it won't surprise me
if it was a tough matchup. I mean, there are
seven halfway favorites, but usc Is is feisty enough. It's
(13:10):
a rivalry game. It's on the road for No. Dame
and another road game but us. He's been a home
for weeks like this sets up for well for this
game to be much harder I think than No. Dame
fans would like. It doesn't mean that it's gonna they're
gonna lose, but that's college football. I I if you,
if you do it multiple weeks in a row, then
I think I look at you and say, Okay, that's
(13:31):
a little bit of a problem. You know you but Oregon,
that wasn't the case for Orgon, wasn't These are other
teams that, you know, Penn State didn't have that problem.
So that's that's where I go with this.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, well that's where I think the path that's what's
really difficult. Could I see a lot of these teams
winning one, maybe two games, yes, yes, But to win
three or four if you don't have a first round
by you got to win four games against the best
teams in college football. That's really difficult. So that's where
I look at again my Irish not being eligible for
(14:04):
a first round by and it's like, that's a huge
difference between winning three games to win a title in
four games to win a title. That's just a lot
of attrition. You get tired, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
No, you're not wrong on that. It makes it a
lot more difficult, absolutely right. But you know the system
they agreed to, I don't know. Yeah, that's sort of
the way it means. It's not their fault per se,
but this is the system, and they try to use
their leverage get no name joining a conference. And I
do wonder after this year if there's going to be
talk immediate talk about creating a different system, especially if
(14:38):
and what's interesting is a fourteen playoff would have left
SEC champion maybe out this year, which would have changed
all these things anyways, man, But I am curious to
see sort of the difference in how we approach this
moving forward. If those SEC and Big ten powers aren't
happy with how this turns out for them.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, we can revisit this, because it's very similar with
the NFL. If you win your trash division, I'm for
you getting a playoff, Berth, But I'm not for you
getting a home playoff game on top of that. That's
never made sense to me. And it's similar to what
we have in college football, where I'm not against Boise
(15:17):
State being in the college football playoff, but I'm against
them having a first round by if there are teams
ranked higher than they are. So I think it's very
similar to the NFL. I haven't gotten the home playoff game.
You can't be four wins. Worse, right, you're a division champion,
you know, quote unquote, there have been division champions that
(15:40):
were eight and eight. They're hosting twelve and four teams
back when we played sixteen games. That should never be
the case.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No that I think I'm moving to a more agreement,
even though the NFL. It's funny, man, the NFL and
college are obviously two different games, but they're sort of
becoming this same playoff structure and a little bit of
the parody because of the NIL it's turning them into.
You know, there's just there's just there's more parody, right,
(16:08):
there's more there's more losses, there's more question about who's
gonna win. It sort of feels like the NFL a
lot more than than we've seen in recent years. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think NIL has
a lot to do with that, for sure. It's it's
much different, and I think that's good. That's been the
secret sauce of the NFL for so long, parody, and
we're saying at least more of it in college football
than we're used to think.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I agreed, And that actually makes it, I think more
fun because as you as we mentioned, there's not there's
not a team right now who we think is an
elite like going to win the championship. I think there's
teams again, they're in that bubble for me, but I
I like, again where a couple of these teams are at.
But this weekend, next weekend, the weekend after Man, some
(16:58):
of these playoff games are to be fun because the
spreads are going to be seven points or less. That's
you know that, that's in college football. That's god of
prime upset territory.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, it's gonna be a lot of fun, all right, Uh,
football front and center. You know, the ball buffet. We
got a lot to talk about. That's not the only thing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You're all over this NBA Cup, Jeff. You got some
some hot takes. You want to get out there, can't you?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I can't deal with the floors. What do we look?
I am an organ guy. I understand our basketball court.
Yeah sure, yeah, frustrated. We've actually changed it this year though.
Looks a little better this year. But but Brian, it's
too much.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's a little aggressive, man, it is it's it is aggressive,
there's no doubt. But we'll have some a few non
football things to say. I'd say a strong like seven
percent of the show, maybe, Jeff, non football. Maybe I
don't know, maybe maybe five percent of that is Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Really there's a little bit aggressive.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Butts, is there is there a Is there NBA today
on the on the rundown here? No?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
No, not is there NBA like in like today, like
in in uh in on the schedule on the football.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh okay, just like just games on the on the
calendar on a Friday, on a Thursday. No, there's nothing
on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
There is some NFL today.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, you get some black friends. It's the NFL has
just moved in, like will take this and Thanksgiving will
take that. Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Christmas Day is even the coultortable playoff put themselves up
against a Chiefs game. Yeah, it just seems like in
crazy because the NFL can start doing Saturdays next week
and the NFL just just rules all you No NBA today,
I'm surprised they don't put like the Lakers and Celtics today,
like right at four thirty pm Eastern.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, now, the Commissioner Silver is like that, will sit
this one out. We'll eat turkey at home and watch
the NFL because that's that's what the most of the
public's it'll be doing as well. All right, we got
a lot to do here. Jeff coming up next. The
conversation about this team is about as different as it
possibly could be. We'll lay that out for you. I'm
(19:15):
Brian know, he's Jeff Schwartz. We're in for two pros
and a cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,
happy Thanksgiving to you. Hope you have a fantastic day
and you're starting it off in the early morning hours
on the right foot. Huh. Hopefully it's good right now
and gets even better going forward. We are broadcasting live
(19:37):
from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tire rack dot
Com will help get you there an unmatched selection, fast
free shipping, free road hazard protection and over ten thousand
recommended installers tire rack dot com the way tire buying
should be. You know, Jeff, I haven't been to sleep.
I just want to let you know that right now,
you haven't been to sleep. Just the way the day
(19:58):
worked out over here in Vegas right now. Yeah, So
we uh made the trip in a day basically like
a little more than a day from a cleaned out
a storage unit in Portland where I used to live,
and you know, we made it down here to Vegas.
And so it's just the way the work the week
(20:19):
played out. And then today it was like the first
day we were here. So it's like, let's go to
the strip. I hit up my guy, our guy crack
and Bill Krackenberger. He's a sports handycapper. He's a professional
sports handicapper. He's like, I suggest you get these apps.
It's weird in Vegas, man, you got to go there
in person, Jeff, I don't know why. It's as as
(20:41):
difficult as it possibly can be in Vegas to get
some like mobile sports books. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, they make it hard. Oh yeah, Bill, Bill Krackenberger
by with a scammer. Bill Krackenberger. So the little little
Twitter extra as he had with a fellow enthusiasts, a
gambling enthusiast. Bill's the best person ever. Anyone who who
makes fun or mocks Bill has to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's right. I feel the same way. He's awesome. But yeah,
that set me back a little bit where I'm going
from book to book, and then all of a sudden,
I'm like, I got a prep for a show and
I've just been driving, you know, across the country throughout
the beginning of this week, and so I just started
putting my NFL stuff together, my college football stuff together,
(21:32):
and I'm like, it's like one thirty and the show
starts at three here Pacific time. So I'm like, I'm
not going to bed, which is fine, you know, I'll
catch a cat nap before the early games. But I'm
not missing ball, Jeff, I'll miss all the sleep. I'm
not missing ball.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have to sleep. I'm as one of those people
that likes enjoys sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, I say, I have two switches, you know, I
have awake, I have sleep, and then I have ball mode,
you know, and ball mode will override sleep mode if
need be. Okay, that's the way it works with me.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's been
a little I will admit it has been a struggle
at times the last couple of weeks to stay up
for that late game. I may or may not have
fallen asleep in the last seven in a row. Really, yeah,
it's been it's been difficult. But what's funny. You know,
if MOSTLY know, if I don't have any money on it,
(22:30):
I will fall asleep. If I got a good amount
of money on it, I managed to stay awake. But
we'll see tonight, we'll see all that all that turkey
when eat today. If I can stay away from the
end of that game tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I'll tell you real fast. This
is a Thanksgiving tradition for a long long time. My
sister was so proud of knowing the fact that I
think it's an amino acid. But the the myth is yeah, yeah,
it's like what makes you tired is And so every
(23:02):
year I did this for like five six years straight
because I knew she was so proud of knowing this,
and I would just be like outn of know where,
I'd be like, hey, what is it in Turkey. That
makes you tired again, and she just jumping trip to fan.
It's tripped to fan. That's that's what it is. It's
tripped to fan to make And I told her, like
(23:23):
years afterward, she just laughed.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
What a great sibling thing. Yeah, just just just just
to just to make her angry, just the thing she
had whent on you. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it was great. It was awesome. Well so well.
One thing that I could bridge what we were talking
about to this topic is one of the nights I
was driving. It must have been my days are all
mixed up, but maybe it was Monday night. It was
late Monday night and it was a college basketball game on.
(23:57):
It was, uh, North Carolina, I think was playing Dayton
and I'm looking at the radio. I'm like, it's like
two am on the East Coast. I'm like, what are
they doing. There's the Maui Invitational rate Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And they play in a high school gym. It's kind
of crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, it's wild. And but I thought about that. So
you bringing up some of these games super late in
the Eastern time zone. It's true they are, but it
got me thinking Yukon is one of the teams playing
in this Maui Invitational, right, they've lost three straight games, Jeff,
they're the number two ranked team. They've lost three straight.
(24:36):
And it got me thinking because Yukon is trying to
three peat here, yes, and the Kansas City Chiefs are
trying to three peat. So the first part I'm thinking
is it shows you how remarkable it is that the
Chiefs have as good of a record as they do
right now they're trying to three peat. I know, the
(24:56):
NFL isn't the exact same thing as college basketball, and
Yukon is missing two lottery players and it's Deefon Castle
and Donovan Klingen, and that makes life difficult early in
a college basketball season. I get it. It's not like
the Chiefs have lost whatever the equivalent would be, like
Travis Kelcey and Mahomes or whoever it would be, like
(25:18):
premier players. They lost Trent McDuffie or whatever it happens
to be. It's not apples to apples, But with both
of those teams, Yukon and men's basketball, the Chiefs in
the NFL trying to three peat. Look where Yukon is
right now, and look where the Chiefs are right now,
it's remarkable that the Chiefs have had this much success
and they're just beginning this uphill like Mount Everest type
(25:43):
climb to a three peat.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah. Look what the Chiefs have done this year is
I know people want to knock it because it's not
it doesn't look like it should sometimes. But their job
is to win games, Brian, That's what they keep doing.
They keep winning games, and with all the pressure of
getting everyone's best shot. After this Panthers game, I don't
know if you saw a couple of the postgame comments,
(26:06):
so Andy Reid was, you know, their head coach was
in the locker room after the game, telling the guys like, hey, guys, like,
keep your heads up, which is crazy thing to say
after a win. Yeah, keep your head up, keep your
head up, which is again, it's it's wild that that
part I'd say after a win. But you know, they
expect so much of themselves that this game felt like
a loss because of how close. It was. But he
(26:28):
said in there like you get everyone's best shots, which
is true. Like the Panthers, who were not good this season,
use this game as a measuring stick opportunity, right, This
is a measuring stick game for the franchise, and even
though they were down that game twenty to six in
the first half, score three points, going a halftime, get
the ball out of halftime, all of a sudden, you
score again, and now it's a three point game. And
(26:51):
teams play the Chiefs every week like it's their super Bowl.
And for the Chiefs to continue to play well and
win games. It's not always against wells on the right
word to use, but to continue to show up each
week and win games when you get everyone's best shot.
There is positives in that, Brian. Now when you project
(27:11):
them out for the playoffs and then it's like, okay, well,
how do they play against Buffalo, how they match up
against the Ravens. Yeah, you would like to see the
thing a little bit more of blowouts per se. But
I think what they're doing right now is fine. That
they're goal is to have the one seed and they're
on track to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, No, they are on track to do that. And man,
that's the thing is at the end of the day,
there's still ten and one and think about some of
these injuries. Losing Rashie Rice was a big deal. Yeah,
and they made a move to get DeAndre Hopkins, who's
fit in. Well, he's given them a boost, and they
just find ways to get value in so many different areas,
(27:49):
whether it's special teams or it's just situationally, it's instead
of running the ball here, let's do a little bit
of a jet sweep, and it's just a smart play call.
They just do a great job of putting themselves in
positions to win games. And yeah, it's not a work
of art. They didn't blow out the Panthers by twenty
one points and they're not putting up gaudy offensive numbers,
(28:11):
but they're ten and one. And so the next thing
I thought of Jeff, was this, if the Chiefs are
able to three peat, would this be the best team
accomplishment in NFL history? And so I started thinking. Initially,
my gut reaction is yes, and I'm like, well, let
(28:31):
me check my work. What else would be on the
short list of best team accomplishments in NFL history. You'd
have to throw the seventy two Dolphins on there.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Of course, undefeated season, you'd have to throw the Super
Bowl three Jets on there. Right, they beat the Baltimore Colts.
It was thought to be the inferior AFL, you can't
beat a team, they always get punked at That upset
directly led to the merger of an You're like, that
(29:01):
can't be undersold. So what you know the history of
the league. I don't need to bore you with it.
But knowing all of that, would you still put the
Chiefs unprecedented? Nobody is three peeted before? Would that be
the best team accomplishment ever?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
As you mentioned, like, no one's done this before, right,
So like that that has to be part of the
equation here, right, that this has never been done before.
I mean, look the the you know the Patriots won
three and four years.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it was, right, yep, yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Cowboys won three and four years. I mean we've had
these runs, but not never never three in a row, Brian, right,
run three in a row. So I think that's up there. Yeah,
I think it has to be up there as one
of the best, especially considering that again, and we were
texting about this earlier. Mahomes and Kelsey obviously are are
fantastic as we know and do they do, but they
(29:55):
don't have any anyone else a wide receiver like in
all these instances we mentioned, all these teams had special
players of those positions at running back. I mean, and
the Chiefs are doing this and I get Kelsey, but
Kelsey's in and you know he's in year. You know,
he's thirty four, like he and you watch him play
(30:17):
and he's had a lot of snaps this season, and
you know he he doesn't look quite the same player
now in big moments. I think he is, but you
know that's it's certainly true. He's played a lot of football.
So considering the weapons around them and how Mahomes has
had to do this, and also too, they've had different
versions of the same team. Right, They've had one year
Awards defense, one year, Whard's offense, one year, where's both
(30:37):
one year where special teams this year is number in
the NFL. Like they're doing different ways every week, and
that to me is super impressive. Brian.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, I also think Jeff, it's like in this era
of the NFL when you're talking about free agency, Yeah,
that's a big deal because you just you can't keep
teams to gather the same way you once were able
to correct. This isn't like the old school Steelers who
(31:06):
won four and six years, right, Right, it's a completely
different deal. So when you have a hard salary cap
and you have NFL free agency and yet the Chiefs
are still remaining on top. And listen, this is a
big if. This is a big projection of if they're
able to threepeat, would that be the best team accomplishment
(31:27):
in NFL history? I think it would be. And that's
a large reason why is look at the other Super
Bowl winners. In this era of free agency and a
hard salary cap, there have been some great teams. Think
of the Seahawks and their legion of boom defense. They
won one Super Bowl. They should have won two in
(31:48):
a row, but that's not they didn't win two in
a row. Like, they're not close to winning three in
a row. And you look at some of these other teams,
the Saints. The Saints were really really good team for
a lot of years won Super Bowl like, so to
three peat unprecedented in the history of the league, and
in this era of a hard salary cap and free agency.
(32:10):
I would put that at the top of the list.
If they're able to pull it off.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, you know, I know last year they did it,
and because of the way it went with their offense
and the winning the road games, we sort of, at
least in my mind, I think most people that kind
of cover the sport. I'm sure you feel the same way,
Like we sort of just default to it's going to
be okay this season. But I do think this team
does have a lot of holes, Brian, and I'm not
(32:36):
sure it's going to be okay this season. I look,
if you get the one seed, which is certainly possible
with their schedule compared to like what Buffalo schedule is
down the stretch here, the one seed is certainly manageable,
and then you have to win one less game, obviously,
like it it feels easier to do if you get
the one seed then the kind of the way they
did last year. You know, you win one game against
(32:58):
the four seed and all of a sudden you're in
the change the game again. You know, like it's not unconceivable,
but it does feel. We look around the NFL, the
Lions and the Eagles and Buffalo and even Baltimore to
an extent, like those teams are just playing better as
a team right now than Kansas City is.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, I still do wonder, I hear you, trust me,
I do, but I wonder about these teams the Bills,
the Ravens that will sometimes look all world in the
regular season and they will just yeah, wet themselves come
playoff time. You know what I mean, it's a Tyler
Bass missed field goal. It's the Ravens like, yeah, we'll
(33:35):
have our running backs with six rushes against the Chiefs,
Like no, how does that happen? Like when will these
teams get out of their own way? Because I'll tell
you who doesn't get in their own way, that's the Chiefs.
And that's one of the main reasons they've still remained
on top.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And that's a huge thing, right, is when you get
these moments of stress in a game, high leverage situations,
and this is what they've done this The Chiefs have
always won these moments, right, and that's why they win
these games. Like even like take last week, right, I
was I was at that game, right, so I can
sort of feel it in the crowd. The Panthers roared
all the way back in down twenty six, then twenty nine,
(34:13):
then twenty seventeen, and the Chiefs scored touchdown here you know, here,
come here come the Panthers again, and they the field goal,
and all of a sudden, the game is tied at
twenty seven and you know, un a minute left and
the Chiefs are like, oh, all right, I guess we'll
score touchdown and win the game. Like our field goal
and win the game. But it was like there was
no panic.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
They just went out and did it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeahmes after the game was like, yes, they would love
to blow teams out. It would be easier on the
team if they were to do that. But again, in
those moments, like there was no I tweet out like
I'm looking forward to Mahomes winning this game for the
Chiefs I got to watch in person. Now there's there's
no there's no thought they're going to lose any of
these games. And that is important, I think when it
comes to the postseason, high leveled situations and just the
(34:57):
confidence of the team in those moments. And Buffalo at
your point has not had those, right, they haven't had those.
Baltimore hasn't had those in the postseason. And the reason
why is is Kansas City and this season again if
they go to Arrowhead, I don't trust them as much
if they if again the kids has to go on
the road. Last year to me is not indicative of
what this year could be. If they have to go
(35:19):
on the road. But the Chiefs have the one seed
right now and they're gonna win on Friday, They're gonna
be still again the game up on Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And I also think once you get to playoff time,
there's just such a mystique with Mahomes. Like think about
last season in overtime against the Niners in the Super Bowl.
The Niners kicked the field goal and then Mahomes let
the touchdown drive. And so how's that gonna feel when
the playoffs roll around? There are gonna be some teams
(35:47):
that psyche themselves out where they think, don't settle for
three correct, you know, don't let Mahomes have a shot.
You know what will happen? Right, Like remember the coin
toss when they beat Tampa in overtime and Baker Mayfield
is like, ah no, we lost the toss, like I
might not even see the field and he didn't. And
so that's a it's a real thing come playoff time.
(36:08):
The teams that, man, they psyche themselves out and they think,
don't don't do this, don't do that, don't let my
Homes And it's like, just do your job, man. It's
the old Belichick thing and they get away from that
come playoff time.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I know, but it's easier said than done. Like we
can sit here and talk about like how you but
when you're in that moment and I've you know again,
I've been in this spot a couple of times as
a player where you're just like you're playing a team,
You're like, that's not good, Like no matter what, like
do you just know you feel it feels inevitable what's
gonna happen, and then it happens, and that there's a
(36:42):
possibility of that every time you play Kansas City, and
I think that's why teams game plan certain ways against them. Look,
Buffalo has learned to be aggressive against Kansasity, like, no
matter what, we're going for a fourth. Then it paid
off and they win this in the win this year.
I imagine in the postseason they'll do the same thing.
Will it pay off? I don't. I don't know what
we'll find out, but you have to I think you
have to be aggressive, Like you change your entire game
(37:03):
plan to play then because you're always afraid of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, maybe just don't quite be Dan Campbell aggressive, you know,
like against the Niners. It can be a little much,
but I agree with you. I think aggressive is the
better way to to lean than, you know, than to
be conservative. I would definitely agree with that on the surface.
But there is such a thing as going you know,
(37:28):
like Dan one eight hundred Gambler Campbell correct, Yeah, and
it blows up in your face, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But dude, I'm always like, pro be aggressive if that's
your ethos, and yeah, and I know that it's sometimes
it gets teams in trouble, but I'd rather that than
conservative coaching.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, listen, I gambling wise, if you want to go
money line underdog, I'm for it. If you want to
go five leg all under like money line underdog, that's
a bit much. That's a that's a bit much, all right.
Coming up next on Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe Live from the IRAQ dot Com Studios, Jeff, we
not only have Thanksgiving matchups, we have Thanksgiving props to
(38:08):
dissect as well. Okay, we will do that. Coming up.
He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian know. Keep it locked right
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know.
We're in for the guys here on Fox Sports Radio.
Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.
If you miss anything on today's show, be sure to
check it out. Just search two Pros wherever you get
(38:29):
your podcasts, and be sure to follow, rate and review
it again. Just search two pros wherever you get your podcasts,
and you'll see the show posted right after we get
off the air. All right, story time with mister Schwartz. Yes,
made me think about this because you mentioned forty nine
Ers linebacker Fred Warner. He's got a fractured ankle and
(38:52):
he keeps playing and he's just you know, getting it
shot up, he's getting it numbed, and he's going out
there right, And so it made me think, you're playing days. Okay,
I know you had to numb up injuries. What is
the injury that you were in the most pain after
a game after the shot wore off? Right, Like break
(39:13):
it down for us? Yeah, how bad was the pain? Well?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I have two instances. One I I this kated my
big toe one year. It's a lot worse than you
think it sounds. And I was out for for three months.
And you know, oddly enough, my first game back, by
the way, that season. The twenty fourteen year was Odell
(39:39):
Catch game. I played all season and you know I'm
a big fella that injury. Hell, you don't realize how
much your big toe matters to you until you get hurt.
So I played that game and it was it was painful,
like afterwards.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It was.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
It was a rough, a rough Sunday night, Monday. I
couldn't practice Wednesday, barely practice Thursday. And then I broke
my leg the next game anyways, but that was that
was that was pretty bad. And then when I froct
justiciicated my ankle. That was the next game. When I
did that to my ankle, it didn't hurt Brian until
(40:20):
about Tuesday. So we were so I hurt it Saturday,
excuse me, Sunday, faction, fraction just got my ankle Saturday,
excuse me Sunday at two thirty Eastern and didn't hurt really.
Sunday didn't hurt Monday because we were talking about second
opinions like do I get by the team doctor or surgery,
(40:42):
do I go somewhere else? And by I think it
was Tuesday morning, I was like, I told my agent,
like it's I'm not kidding. Second opinion. I want this
fixed now. It was it was bad. It hurt it.
I mean it hurt a lot. And then so that
next season was twenty fifteen for me, and you know,
I recover heard mostly And there was a game that's
(41:05):
the Niners. We played SA Football. We actually had a
game winning catch by Larry Donnell or tight end to
win the game. And that entire game, I got bull
rushed all game for the bull Rushes, when guys basically
run down the middle of you and try to push
you back, and you know, probably not best on a
bad trying to anchor on a bad ankle. We went,
you know, when someone's trying to bull rush you all game.
(41:27):
It wasn't ideal. And I remember after that game my
ankle was just it wasn't bad. It was a bad shape.
It wasn't good. Uh. And then you just start, you know,
trying to survive the next couple of weeks and trying
to get it better, which it never got better. So yeah,
I mean, you just you just deal with it, though
I mean I don't there's no way to to put
in the words. I think, like, how how much of
(41:49):
the pain you just your job is to play through it.
And find a way to play through it, and then
you have to. And Fred Warner obviously the example showed
he did, I did. I mean, that's part of life
in the big Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It made me think of Deon Sanders his playing days.
He had turf toe really bad. And at first you're
thinking turf toe and dude, everything every move you make,
you can't stop, you can't do anything coming up next.
We think big picture
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.