December 10, 2024 • 48 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Cowboys find a new way to lose on Primetime. Bill Belichick is still in talks with UNC but can we see the coach heading to the college ranks over chasing Don Shula’s record? And CBSSports NFL Columnist, Pete Prisco
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on
Fox Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I was trying to figure out who was the
more can't get right team this season, between the Cowboys
and the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well they pulled it off right, yep, and twenty seven
put a face to it.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Congratulations of the Dallas Cowboys, you one that can't get
right bowl last night one and at football, job well done.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Michael wasn't happy about that either bad way. He was
not happy about that can't get right lost.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Job well done.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Blocked the punt in a critical moment about to win
the gang only the muffet pulling a leon let from
years and years and years ago. And then Cincinnati gets
the ball back and Jamar Chase scores and that'll do it.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Folks have fun, drive home safely.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Talk about a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Roller coaster route of emotions, shah Lee on both sides, right,
I mean your Cincinnati you're.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Like, oh whoa, especially they were confused, especially this year
because Cincinnati has had so many losses late to.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Where you're like, oh, that's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, that one's worse than the last No, like Cincinnati's
been in spots this year to where you go, Man,
if this team could ever just close out a game,
they would be a problem in the postseason. And so
that's a moment in which always seemingly would have gone
against Cincinnati this year, and instead it goes against Dallas
at home a week this stuff usually happens to Dallas.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Zach Taylor looked like he had seen a ghost.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, he was like, I don't think he really wanted
to he knew what it was. I don't think he
wanted to accept that. That's what it was like.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It was a ghost of the winning lottery. Ticulate, Wait
what wait, Hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Wait you said, you said I what wait you said,
I one.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We got we got the benefit of the doubt there.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I said, what wait wait say that one more time.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He had the dumb found it look and Micah Micah
had to say, what next?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You said, who that? Yeah, he just he.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Said wait, wait, no, say it isn't true. No, say
it isn't So that that was That was Mike's face on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you want to hear a little Micah post, Oh,
let's do it. Speaking of speaking of sticks, here was
Michael Parson's Following the game, I wasn't.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Even really grasping what was going on. Nick made a
great play, and uh then you know, I asked the
rect you know he's playing. What happened to me that
we touched the ball? It was definitely a huge momentum ship.
I mean, we just caught a huge stop. We're going
in two minute drill. It's just real hard to you,
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you think, to believe you could pour that game out
from that situation.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
That hurts. It seemed like we're paying a dude.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
That's not fair, you know, I don't I don't know
if it's bad love karma, you know, tell me we
hold Joe Burrow the twenty points and two minutes off
of our offense, the way he was moving the ball
to day, I think we.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Can win the game.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So, uh, that sounds like.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
That wasn't too bad. He had himself together there good.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, he got a little emotional talking about an injury,
you know, to his teammate, uh elsewhere, But he walked
off the field.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
He turned his ankle again last night.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, he walked off the field, just incredulous with and
I was thinking about it and seeing and you guys
have talked about this, You and Brady, like Michah Parson
is one of the best players at his position in
the league. He's having a down year because of the
injuries and all that, but I mean he's still a
great player. That's got to be a really frustrating thing
to be a great player who can have such an
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impact on a game, but just not enough for you
to like win games, and yet you still go out
and play at a high level and only to see
random occurrences like that happen and it goes the other
way and you guys lose again at home like that
and embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
At least he's recognized as one of the greats in
the game before you got to the point of, you know,
your team being discussed in the way that they're being discussed.
I mean, that's how I would look at it. I mean,
he has he has tremendous value, you know, so when
you look at where he's at, I don't think anyone
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would question if they're winning and losing based off of
a handful of players. Ceedee Lamb is on that list.
He was upset. Michael Parsons is on that list. He
was upset, so you actually want guys like that if
they're on your.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Team, you want them to be upset, you know you do.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And and that's you know, to me, I think that
when when when you see a leader of a team
not be upset and not bothered, that's when you need
to start worrying because that's when, and you know, it's
their self preservation that is kicking in Jonas and the
idea that you know, your big guns, look at look
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at what's going on from a different lens of you know,
just just wanting to overachieve and wanting to win. That's
I think that that's when now you got to start
looking at your coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And and that's when you say, all right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Does this guy still have control of the locker room?
And and that's you know, if I'm Mike McCarthy, the
one thing that I would be happy about if I
were in this scenario is that my stars are still
getting frustrated and upset. Now, if that frustration and that
being upset turns into them saying, you know what, like
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what's going on in Philadelphia, but towards a coach, then
you got to assume that that's not that's not going
to be a good thing. But otherwise, I mean, you
got to be happy that your your big guns are
frustrated and upset that they didn't win the game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's got to be frustrating, though, if you're Cincinnati, because
you see, like Burrow's having the best year of his
career and it's kind of a waste because they're not
going to go to the postseason and they've been battling
and come up short in so many games this year
that they're gonna be on the outside looking in. And
yet you look at that team and you look at
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that the threat of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, Like
Jamar Chase is unbelievable, Like just to see and what
he's going to garner on the open market and what
he's gonna or what he's gonna get from Cincinnati, because
I don't think he'll hit the open market.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
About to say, you think they're gonna allow him all
to market.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I would be shocked. So they'll they'll figure out a
way to get that done. But you look at that
team and you go, man, there's a couple of those
games you go back on, like right now they're three
games out of the final playoff spot. A couple of
those games go the other way. Games they should have
won and.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
They didn't exactly, you know they didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And but one one person you can't blame it on
is Jamar Chase. Another person you can't blame it on
is Joe Burrow. I mean, when you look at the
way that they've played during the course of the season,
you'd have to assume that those guys have given you
performances that would would lend to winning the game and
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give it up to Hendrickson. I mean, they could have
still made a run to go get the touchdown that
they needed.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
You know, uh Rush was getting rushed.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And he did not have the opportunity to get his
feet set to to make good solid decisions throwing the ball.
I mean he was under duress, and the receivers can
get upset and they could be you know, bothered by
the fact that you know, Rush was delivering the ball
the wrong way in that moment, but you know that
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offensive line didn't hold up for him and give him.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
The fair opportunity to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So when you look at how when you look at
how they they came through for them. Speaking of the
Cincinnati Bengals defense in the crunch time in the clutch
for them, you know, and obviously holding Dallas to twenty points,
you know, you hold a team to twenty points, you
had a good outing and and so.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
But again, like.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like Mike I said, I mean, they held the Bengals
to twenty points.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That was a good outing.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And to have it, you know, close out the way
that it did against them, you know that that one's
a that's got to be a hard one to you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Swallow Trey Hendrickson, who's leading the NFL in sacks. That
was a guy who you know, he was another one
of those trying to get a deal done before the season.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
They didn't want to do it, Yeah, they didn't. They
didn't want to pay him.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They didn't get a long term deal for t Higginston,
they didn't get a long term deal for jamar Chi.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
He's done.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So yeah, they've got question marks as well too going
into next year. But I look at her and go, damn,
I just I can't help but think, if you're a
Bengals fan, how frustrating this year must have been. Because
who the hell wants to see Joe Burrow in the postseason.
It's one of two guys that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in
a playoff game. The other was Tom Brady, like you.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Know, and you know what's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Just hearing hearing hearing Colin Cowherd like hearing his his
his one kind of his take on you know, Josh
Allen versus you know, Patrick Mahomes. And if you put
up five touchdowns, you know, Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose. But
what's going on with with you know, with with the
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quarterback and in Buffalo, it's just kind of like, why
would you reign on Josh Allen for that when it's
it's all three phases of the game that play a
part and winning a game. They say, you win two
phases of a game and you're going to most likely
win the game. Joe Burrow, much like Josh Allen, has
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played MVP level football. But if your defense doesn't play
MVP defense, or your special teams as Aaron Rodgers, as
the New York Jets, if your special teams don't deliver
ask the Ravens and one of their letdown games, right,
if the special teams doesn't come.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Through for you and you lose that phase of the game,
then you will lose the game. Or I don't give
a damn who your quarterback is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so I know that they're going to say all
the right things publicly and listen, wines, a team loses,
a team, all of that crap that we hear all
the time. But you've been on teams where you've done
your part and somebody around you hasn't. You're not giving
them the side eye, or there's not a conversation behind
closed doors. It's not in front of the media when
it comes to hey man, like I'm out here on
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my part, where the hell are you? Like nobody has
those discussions or nobody's giving them a dirty look, like
what's happening here? How do you not make that play
at that point, especially when I'm having the best season
of my career.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, if it's if it is a if it's
if it's a kicker, you're going to feel a certain
type of way about them. And I mean it's just
kind of it is what it is. It is what
it is. Only you look at the kicker or you know,
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you know what's sad about you know what's sad about
a Ruier.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You know he's a penn stater man. And I can't
believe that we would have.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A penn stater can't get right at one of the
biggest moments in the game, but.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
That that's here north there.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I just think that when you when you have somebody
like a kicker or a punter or a long snapper
mess up the game, like mess up their part of
the game, I think it kind of. I think the
pain of that disappointment hits so hard and cuts so
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deep and that person in particular, that you really don't
even need to do anything. You really don't need to
look at them crazy because they already know that they
looked crazy. You really don't have to scream at them
because they already know that they did something crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Man, what's wrong with you? Man? And I think that
at the end, when it comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
When it comes down to it, I never was one
to get into the kickers' faces or anything like that,
do anything crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
But in my mind I would be.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sitting there like, God, dang bro, like all you do
is kick like that punter. That punter allowed that ball
to get blocked at the biggest moment of the day. Now,
granted they released the dude, let the dude run free,
but you got one job to do, and that's get
that ball off and don't let it get Like the
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worst case scenario in that moment for Dallas would have
been to allow or for Cincinnati would have been for
them to allow Dallas to come free and block.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
A put and that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So to me, I, you know, Jonas those moments, there
are some dudes that be like, man, I'm gonna f
you up, you little mother, This, that and the other.
There are some that can't handle it. But for others,
it's just kind of like, you know that the pain
cuts so deep because that's all they do.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's like you're waiting.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Your turn, and your turn comes when you score touchdown
or you get into scoring position. And it's interesting because
it's a very very lonely job.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
It's a very very lonely job.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That moment where that ball is snapped and you got
to step up to it and you got to kick it.
All eyes are on you for that moment. It's not
you trying to complete a path, it's not you running
the ball down the field, catching the ball for a touchdown.
All eyes are on you to see if you can
use your foot to get this ball through these big
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ass uprights. And give the team points that they need. Like,
that's you know, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well
it's a lot of loss.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But that's the only pressure you have on you, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, that's true. A lot of losses for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I know that.
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
So there's this report that came out last week that
Bill Belichick is kind of kicking the tires on a
return to coaching.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Here you go, you love this one? Well, you know,
if Q was on the show today, be like, oh, Jonah,
you just really love running this one. I mean, you
just really love running this one.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Johan.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean, do you know how many times I've had
to sit here and sit through some conference realignment nil
conversation that I don't give a rip about on this show.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean it's funny because do you be having topics
he don't like to talk about, and he'd be having
topics you don't like to talk about. It's funny seeing
it play out on radios. I think it makes the
radio better per personally. But I just figured, in his absence,
I figured I'd just run it the way he would like.
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Jonas like, jeez, nobody really cares about I have one
hundred different topics that are better than this one that
you were about to talk about. Hold on, hold hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
On, hold on.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
How about the fact that I sent Lee.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
A hundred different, one hundred different.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Stories, and this is the story you want to settle,
Lanel Well, we do, go ahead, Jonas, I guess you'll
want to talk about squatty potties next.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
To well listen by the way that is, and.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Lee talks about the ones that light up at night.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Hey, hey, you want to you want to know something.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Brady's getting this come up and next time he's on
this show because I told him, and I either may
have bought him a squatty potty or he bought it
himself because of a recommendation for me. And he filmed
him and his daughter throwing it away because he disliked
it so much.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And here we are, you know, because if.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
You sent me one, that might be what I sent you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I know, But but he filmed that and has
just made fun of me ever since then because of it.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And now we just heard a squatty potty.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Commercial during the show during one of the breaks, So
I was ahead of my time, man.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Me, Hey, bro were coming up. Man, That's all I'm
gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They know their audience.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I mean, god.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Lee commercials now, by the way, he's throw one of
those in the bathroom. I'm talking about busting caps and
people's asses. We got squatty potties, we got blue shoes.
This is a man's man show.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Damn right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
If you didn't know, I mean, ladies, I hope you're
listening because this is like what masculinity is supposed to
sound like, you know, outside of Jonas you.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Know, Hey.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
And Lee by the way, me and Lorena you know.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
All right, So Bill Belichick, so there was apparently Belichick
met with North Carolina for five hours over the weekend.
All right out, I haven't spent five hours with my wife,
let alone talking to the team about a job. And
so Belichick spent five hours talking with North Carolina to
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try and see whether or not the fit works and whatnot.
I think the assumption is, well, you know, he's just
kind of.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Getting his name out there.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Maybe a job will be opening up, who knows, I mean,
depending on how this whole fiasco works in Philadelphia, maybe
it'll open up there. But nonetheless, Belichick was on the
Let's Go podcast talking with Jim Gray not only about
the North Carolina interest or potential interest, but also about
a potential return to the NFL.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
I think it's a process of just understanding, you know,
what the mutual goals, expectations, and resources are, to find
out whether it's a fit and in the process and
who's to say how goes.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
But this is not to say that pro football does
not still hold tremendous appeal to you.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, Jim, I maan, I'm open to you know a
number of thoughts. I've had an interesting year this year
working to in somewhat of an.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Analytical and media role.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Football at any of the college or a professional level
does interest me, and I would explore those opportunities as
well and ultimately see what, you know, what everybody has
to offer and what be the best fit for me
and potentially another organization or it could be in the media.
I have an open mind and have a I think
the college game is closer to the program game that
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it's ever been with the new kind of landscape in
college football. So you know, I've explored it and we'll
see see how.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
It works out.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
I think it's widely assumed that you'd like to win
another Super Bowl, and I think it's widely assumed that
you'd like to break down Shoelea's record. Is that and
are those two things in the forefront of your mind?
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Yeah, Jim, I don't have any set goals. I'm open
to different opportunities going forward, and I know it's the
valuator as they come.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So sounds like someone who is posturing in a very
very strategic way.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Doesn't he already sound like he's in coach mode.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Again, he does not, but not all the way. It
doesn't sound like he's all the way.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But when you've heard him talk on the Manning Cast
or the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, you've heard
him on Inside the NFL, you know he's, you know,
an analytical just kind of get that right there. Sounded
like Belichick at the podium in New England more so
than I've heard in this entire offseason. He's already getting
into coaching mode. Already getting into coaching mode.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You know what it sounds like to me?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
What's that It sounds as though he is basically letting
people know that, Hey, I yeah, I certainly would come
out of where I'm at right now and coach just
as long as a you let me do everything I
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want to do. That's what five hours would consist of.
Imagine the amount of structure and information that that Bill
Belichick has in terms of what he would want coming in.
Do you have the resources to be able to support
what it is that he laid out to you in
detailed I mean, he probably has a very intimidating, one
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of the most impressive ways of interviewing for a job,
because what he's going to show you is probably like
he's opening up a treasure chest and in that treasure
chest like it glows like the gold and everything like that.
And it's just the information that that man has. And
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you can only imagine, I mean, the amount of talent
that has come through both coaching and players and front
office people that have come from the Bill Belichick tree.
I can't even imagine what that would look like, what
that five hours look like with him, And probably a
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lot of it came this chumming it up. But I
can guarantee you he laid out and detailed what it
is that it would take for him to actually come
and coach at your for your team.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And what's crazy is.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
There's there's probably there's probably an NFL team that is
to the point now where they would actually consider and
entertain Bill Belichick coming in and getting exactly every single
thing that he would want detailed in order to come
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there and coach their team.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, one of the other I saw this story that
came out from Pro Football Talk that reported that Belichick,
I guess, is surprised that no NFL teams that have
openings have reached out to him about any interest next year,
and those teams would be the Jets, the Saints, and
the Bears. The Jets would make some sense. He's not
going back to the Jets, all right, that didn't work
out the first time he's been critical of the owner.
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Not going to happen. The Saints, I think Darren Rizzy's
going to get the job there. I think they like
what he's doing. The Bears, that doesn't make any sense
to me. If you were to say, what is Belichick's
specialty attention to details? And discipline. I don't know, feels
like that would be a team that could probably use
a little bit of that at this point this year, Like,
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why would you not have already reached out to him
to gauge his interest or have a conversation. I know
it's in the season, but you can do that quietly
and privately and not have anybody find out about it,
and at least have a discussion with him, Hey, this
is what we're thinking, this is what the structure would
be like, is this of interest? Would you like to
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have a formal interview in the next few weeks after
we make a decision long term and based on what
we saw in San Francisco for Thomas Brown, he's probably
just the interim and not going to get the job
full time after that. I just why would you not
reach out to him? He's the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
To do them?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Unless to do it, unless there really is just this
feeling no, it was all Tom Brady and Belichick had
nothing to do with it. That could be my only thought,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Just I just look at Bill Belichick and I say
to myself, at his age and his level of accomplishment,
why would you deal with any buffoonery. Why would you
walk yourself into a scenario unless you're a drama drama.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
King, right, and you're okay with.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Being in a scenario where there's like this type of
confusion or you know, disruptive type of things that are
going on, dysfunctional type of things, and had already told
y'all a hundred times over, I don't care if you're
Bill Belichick. If you walk into dysfunction, you're not going
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to be a good enough coach to out coach and
outperform the dysfunction. So at his age, why why would
he want to step into a situation like that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't think Chicago because that they fit the bill
of just complete dysfunction.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And you know, if they're not even entertaining the idea
of having.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
A conversation with Jim Harbaugh last year, I can't imagine
Belichick pops up on the radar. But I do think,
and Albert Breers reported this before, if the Eagles job
opens up, I think he's got a good relationship with
Howie Roseman the GM, and that's a ready made roster.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Why why would you not enter?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think he absolutely would take that job, and I
think he would take the Giants job for sentimental reasons
because of how much he loves the owner ownership there
and how fond he is of his time with the Giants.
But that also, I don't know, man, you and he
can say, you know, kind of dismiss the thought of
the Don Shula record and all that. I I one
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believe that that's part of the appeal that he wants
to break Don Shulder's record, allegedly him and Don Shula.
He's not a big fan of Don Shula's or wasn't
a big fan of Don Shula because Don Shulda was
critical about the flate gate and the spygate and all
that stuff. When it came to his wins. I think
he would love to do that. I just him at
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the college game. It's interesting, But if it is about
the all time wins record, I just don't see it happening.
I think he goes back to the NFL this season.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I just think that the level of difficulty it would
be for Bill Belichick to be in a situation where
people can dictate to him. Either we're looking at a
situation in a scenario where we a say, you know,
what an old dog can learn new tricks, and so
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looking at what Bill Belichick has going on, you.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Actually believe that he can approach this and.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Say, you know what, Hey, I'm just going to coach
like you guys, do everything you need to do over here.
But my whole thing is Jonas. If we're seeing reports
that it was a five hour a five hour meeting
with Bill Belichick, I would have a hard time believing
that you just spent five hours like yucking it.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Up, like, oh, hey you're Bill, You're sharing war stories.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh my gosh, tell me another story about Tom Oh,
tell me about super Bowl number three, number four, number five.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And it took five hours to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Now, just don't feel as though that would be Bill Belichick,
unless maybe he saw what took place this past go
around when he went to Atlanta and felt as though
maybe just maybe he doesn't need to be so much
Bill Belichick until he gets the gig.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
But if that's what, if that's what it is, do.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You really want to brown nose or or you know,
kind of deceptively get the job. If you're Bill Belichick,
why play that game at his age?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
What does that mean? Brown nose?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
What does that mean? Nose in the button? Oh? Damn,
did I get dumped?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Is that dumb worthy? Rana?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, it could anyway, that's I mean that you sniffing,
you know what I mean? And that that's you know,
I don't know why that's an endearing term in terms
of sucking up to someone, but that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Anyway. I had that here, Hey Jonas, I don't need
to do that.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I have that every day.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
What stoping oup? What do you mean brown nosing?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just don't think that Bill Belichick, with his resume
and all of the good things, it's not like he's
sitting at home twiddling his thumbs and doing like pogo
sticking with his girlfriend and stuff like that and double dutch,
you know, jump roping. I mean, he's busy. You know,
he's working, he's showing people his personality. Maybe he's even
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showing himself his personality. Maybe he's had some illuminating experiences.
But my whole thing is, you gotta be careful sometimes
the things that make you great when you're forced to
have to adapt and to adjust, sometimes that just doesn't
lead to the type of results that you've gotten in
the past. And he's got to be mindful of the
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fact that you know there's a reason why old head
coaches are, you know, rapidly dropping off and one of
his most famous counterparts and Nick Saban they don't like
just it might make more sense to just stay in media,
just be your coach, coach up and criticize other teams.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They're both fantastic and they're good. They're good, and who's
going to say they're wrong? What analyst is going to
come back and be like, yeah, Bill, that's uh, what
with that?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Like, could you imagine him and Q doing the show
like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What whole whole whole, whole whole hole, whole up coach,
whole up coach.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Like you have me Anyway, I just I don't I
don't see I don't see it making a ton of
sense for Bill Belichick to take on another coaching project,
which of what it would be a project to rebuild
if he gets the opportunity, if if he doesn't have
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the resources and has the control, that he would want
to to take the job.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I just don't see that. I don't see that making sense.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I do have a question, Lee, can you look this
up real quick if you don't mind, could you look
up LaVar mentioned this and I don't even know if
these are still in existence. Pogo sticks? Are those still
in existence? Because let me tell you something, she really yeah,
Oh there's like extreme pogo stick competitions still.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Oh yeah, you gotta be strong to.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You gotta wear a helmet and like they jump off
and let me tell you something. You better you better
be sober if you're a guy on one of those, because.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, oh well, you know fate. Fate will step
in and you'll start blending in.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
With They call that stick the sticks valance, stick on stick, valance,
don't get stopped.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
How much is a pogo stick?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Like, oh, no, fifty bucks, but the pogo stick my
car was seventy five.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Good though.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, they got some good ones out there now, don't
get it twisted. That pogo stick. You could go over
a fence, will you could? You can pop up like
one of them, kangaroo, really one of them extreme pogo.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Can you go over? How high can you go on
a photo? There's got to be a limitation, right.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Our daughters doesn't go very high?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
About ten feet?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Can you really go that high?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's capable of going ten feet?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Dang, that's high man?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You could you could pogo stick over Wemby.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You could pogo stick to the top of the rim
of a basketball room.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Hey, bro, I'm looking at this joint. It's one eighty five. Oh.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Their their shoes, their pogo shoes, their boots like them blades.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Damn they made pogo shoes. Well, hey, listen, look at
this one.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
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up Baby, Arizona State Big Twelve champions.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
How are we feeling?
Speaker 8 (33:16):
Can you believe that? I mean, it really is, Jonas
an amazing story when you look at it. They came
from nothing to being picked to finish last to being
a team with a buy in the first round. I mean,
it doesn't happen, and it reminds me of ninety six
and ninety six. They were a nothing team going into
the season, upset Nebraska early in the season. They were
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the number one team in the country, and they came
within a whisker of winning it all in the Rose Bawl.
And so look, it's amazing where they're at. Kenny Dillingham's
done a great job and I'm along for the ride.
I'm loving every.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Bit of this.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I still remember that Jake Plumber Rose Bull performance at
Who did they play in the Rose Bowl was that
it was Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
What happened was is back then they had they didn't have,
you know, the national playoffs. So Florida State and Florida
played in Ohio State and Arizona State played Arizona State wins.
They win the national title because Florida had beaten Florida
State or went on to beat Farda Florida be Florida
State later that night. What happened is the issue takes
a lead with a minute to go in the game
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and they let Joe Jermaine hit David Boston with about
fifteen seconds left for a game when he touched down
they had no business getting because the coach at Arizona State.
Of course, you know me, I'm going to find something
to pick him off, pick on for he called time
out on third down on the goal line when he
didn't need to, so he gave him too much time.
But you know that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So I remember hearing this discussion that we had. This
was in the summertime, and there was a ranking that
came out and it might have been Dennis Dodd at CBS.
I forget who it was that ranked the coaches in
the Big Twelve, and Dion Sanders had a gripe against
I think it was whoever is that wrote the article
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about from CBS, because he was ranked second to last
when it came to coaches in the Big Twelve, and
coming into the season, the guy who was ranked below him,
dead last was Kenny Dillingham. And yet here they are
Big Twelve champions. To see the job that he's done there,
it just impressive as all hell. And man, Cam Skataboo
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is as fun as anybody there is to watch in college.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Football, he really is.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
And the quarterback's good too. I mean he's a retro
freshman and he gets better and better, and there's a
and somebody actually put it on Twitter. I don't know
who did it, but I said it when it happened.
His little run to get a first to keep first
down in that game reminded me of Jake plumbers On
in that Rose bul and it has the same kind
of feel to it. So, look, they're going to play
it Atlanta. They neither to play Clemson or Texas. I'd
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rather play Cleans it. But the way quinn Ewers is playing,
I'm not worried about either one of those teams. They
could be either one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So he is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio, CBS, Sports HQ. You can get them on
x at Prisco CBS. Was that not the perfect way
for the Dallas Cowboys to lose a game at home
last night?
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Or what you always asked me? You always ask me
a game I picked that went rotten because it had
no business going rotten. Your Cowboys were my pick, by
the way, So I mean not only that, you're getting
what was it five and a half? I think we
picked it at So you get it five and a half,
you get that play to happen, but then you figure, okay,
they'll go get a field goal. But no, they go
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get a touchdown and so they cover the number. So
my pick record is horrendous this year. I am so bad,
it's unbelievable. But maybe it's because Brady's not around to
do the picking with me and Kyle Long who's picking
with me now it's just absolutely destroying me. And so
that's that's the way the season's gone. But yeah, for
the Cowboys, I mean, it was the old Leon left play.
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You know, how do you not know that once the
ball goes over the one the scrimmage, you can't touch it.
I mean it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, And just if you're if you're a fan, watched
that team at home this year, going back to the
playoff game from last year, I mean, if you got
season tickets, just sell them, like, you know, give him
to somebody, Like why even go be a part of it?
But another heartbreaker for Dallas. And I was saying, but
and Levarn and I were talking about this earlier. It
kind of feels like a wasted year for Joe Burrow
in the sense that he's been fantastic and they're going nowhere,
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like they've been on the wrong end of so many
difficult losses and then you come to have the conversation
about t Higgins after the season, Trey Hendrickson was leading
the league in sacks. They weren't able to get a
long term deal done. We don't know how the whole
Jamar chasing is going to shake out. Like it feels
like Joe Burrow is probably looking around going I think
he said as much best year of his career. Yet
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it's going to be all or not because they came
up on the short end of so many close games.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And the amazing thing about it is is the way
he has to navigate the pocket and still make plays
down the field. I mean, the guy's been fantastic this year,
really is. I mean when you look at him, it's amazing.
And on the flip side of that is you know,
you got a chance to get the triple crown. I mean,
he legitimately has a chance to win. You know, catches
yards and touchdowns and I mean that's that's an amazing feat.
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So yeah, it's tough because watching him is so fun.
But then I guess when you watch that defense, if
you're a Begels fan, you get so frustrated because they've
been so bad, particularly in the secondary. This year.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Do you buy the Bill Belichick North Carolina interest that's
out there, or do you think ultimately he makes a
return to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
I think if it's up to him, he'd go to
the NFL. But I think he's trying to set his
kid up at post, you know, when he retires. I
think that's what it is. Yeah, the word is is
that he wants to make his son the coach in waiting,
and his son is the defensive coordinator at Washington right now,
and so I think that's some of the things that play.
And you know, he said the funny thing is he
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says he's set it up like an NFL team and
an NFL organization. You know where I heard that before
at Arizona State when Ray Anderson and Herm Edwards took
over and it didn't work. You know, they said it
was going to be an NFL organization. We're going to
do things that way, and it's going to look like that,
We're going to have the scouting department and this and
this and this, and it just didn't work. So if
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you don't, here's the bottom line. As you right now,
you know this is an aberration season. How do you
compete with Alabama Georgia, Like, if you're North Carolina Clemson,
how do you compete with those team when they're so
far ahead of everybody else. It's so hard to do,
so we do. I think he's interested in being a
guy who goes out and recruits and gets in the
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transfer portal and do all that. No, but I do
think he might be trying to set up a sun
for the coaching waiting.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I just think he looks at the opportunity to break
the all time wins record in the NFL, Don Chula's record,
and I think that's something that's that he would absolutely want,
Like that would be something he would pursue. Obviously, if
things work out and his son could be the coach
in waiting, that would you know, take precedent over that.
It would be my assumption. But I also wonder if
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he's looking at at some of these gigs. Look, you're
close with the Jaguars organization, you followed them for a
lot of years.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Would that make sense for Belichick to take over?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is that roster close to competing, as Sead Cohn was saying,
the best roster that they've had in the history of
the organization.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
It's a good job because Trevor Lawrence is there and
they do have some young talent, But how do you
hire him as the coach if you have don't give
him personnel power. And Bill Belichick with personnel power one
very good in New England and the last part of
his career, So that's going to be the rub for
any team that hires him. And I think that was
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part of the problem in Atlanta last year. Bill Belichick,
if he just came in and was coaching and had
no say so on the personnel decisions or who's making
the personnel decisions, would be a fantastic hire. But Bill
Belichick as head coach and general manager is not. Bill
Belichick head coach got fired because Bill Belichick general manager
didn't do his job the last couple of years. So
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and you can look at New England's and see it
doesn't have a lot of talent on it. So I
think if you hired him just to be the coach,
would he be okay? If he were the guy getting
told this is your players, this is your players were
picking this, and he doesn't have the input on that,
and not my input. He would have input, but by
not making the final decision that would be something to
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keep an eye on for any organization that would hire him.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So what do you think the future for Trent Balky
is there? If we all believe that Doug Peterson's going
to be out the door, is that mean Balkey follows.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
With him or no, should be? I mean he should
have been gone a couple of years ago. I mean
think about that. At one point, if they didn't win
this past week, they were on the pace to be
the first team to pick first in the draft three
out of five years. Ever, and usually when that happens,
a team gets out from underneath his own self and
he hasn't got him under there. The problem is shod
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Khn has been loyal to a fault and I think
you know, look look at Balky. He's played the game
over the years. He got Jim Harbaugh fired in San Francisco.
Jim Harball, one of the great coaches in college and
NFL has ever seen. He got him fired because he
didn't want to work with him anymore. So that tells
you the kind of angle player and the way he
plays the game. He's good at it. In fact, he's
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a pro at it. He's got a lot of people fired.
So I would be shocked if he came back, but
the way the way Shot con operates, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Prisco CBS. What do you make
of the Eagles' latest mess where you've got AJ Brown
calling out the passing game and then you've.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Got Brandon Graham going on.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
His local show in Philly last night saying, you know,
there's their relationship has changed.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
They used to be friends. Jalen Hurts is trying.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
AJ Brown's got to do better than he backtracked when
it came to that. Then it stirred up Terrell Owens
vers Donovo McNabb all over again. What's the latest mess
there in Philly?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, Look, anytime a wide receiver starts complaining about the
passing game, A, it's expected, and B it's never good
thing to do it in public like that and call
out your quarterback. So look, remember it was the old
T l Owens and Donovue map. We We've seen this
play out before, and I do think that they need
to sit down and fix it. They're one of the
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better teams in the league. It he wrong? Is the
passing game is as good as it should be, probably not.
But when they run the ball the way they do,
it doesn't need to be right now. At some point
it will be, so sit down, go iron it out.
But never a good look. When a winning team has
wide receivers complaining about the court so they need to
fix that, it's not a good look.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I've never seen an organization that wins and is still
miserable half the time. It's odd, like the fact that
Nick Sirianni's even on the hot seat going into the
season never made any sense to me, Like all he
does is win. He's like twenty six games over five
hundred or whatever it is at this point. And I
know that last Sunday against Carolina was a little bit
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tricky and it didn't go the way that a lot
of people thought it was going to go, but they
still won the game, and for some reason, and that's
not enough in Philly.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (44:03):
It's a it's always that. And look Sirianni, you know,
kind of you look at him, he never looks like
he's happy, even when they're winning by twenty and maybe
that's just kind of bleeds on down. But you're right,
the fans. Look, the fans are the most as passionate
as anybody in the league, and anybody's ever been to
an Eagles game knows that. But they're also turned quickly
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and they get angry, and I think that kind of
bleeds over under the team. And they play. They play
with an attitude, they play with the swagger, and they
play with the nastiness, but they also tend to have
the problems and at some point, you know, that's on
Sirianni to fix it. It'll be interesting to see how
he does, but it's on Sirianna to fix it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's Pete Prisco joining us here. Last one for you, Pete.
I did see on social media that, you know, some
people were giving you a hard time about the Steelers
your Steelers picked before the listen. I just want you
to know I think a lot of people were down
on the Steelers going into the postseason because they were playing,
paying like twelve bucks and a bag of rolled golds
to two quarterbacks that nobody thought were actually going to
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be factors this year. One of them was injured in
training camp. I bet everybody thought it was going to
be a down year. I was with you. I thought
they'd finished last. The idea that you're getting blowback for it,
I just want you to know you got a friend
in me, pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
It's amazing. And look, Okay, did I say that Russell
Wilson probably wouldn't be that much of an upgrade? Yes?
Is he an upgrade? Yeah? The Russell Wilson we saw
in Denver the last couple of years wouldn't have been
an upgrade. So but again, they play Pittsburgh. I mean,
they played the Eagles this week, they played the Chiefs
coming up. We'll know more about that team coming up.
If they win those games. I'm gonna sit here and
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say I was wrong. They were right. The Steelers are
legitimate and the true contender. If they don't, then you're
going to go into this into the playoffs, and they're saying, well,
maybe they weren't as good as we thought they were.
And again, they're good. I don't think they're great. Do
I think they're a true contender in the AFC right now?
Maybe if Russell Wilson can play that way when he
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if he plays the way he has been playing against
the Eagles, and I'll sit here and say that was wrong.
But you're right, the Steeler fans they cut boy, they
get after you, don't they It's like.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Who's optimistic on Pittsburgh this year? Like no, but like
everyone looked at it is like, oh, this is going
to be the year Tomlin finishes below five hundred. So
it's not like this is you were the one person
and no, Like there were a lot of people that
looked at their situation and said, in comparison to Cincinnati Cleveland,
who's got a great roster but has been riddled with
injuries and bad quarterback play, and Baltimore, who was a
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game away from the super Bowl last year, that would
be the go to pick the Pittsford who finished last.
It's not that foreign to anybody who was going back
to August talking about the season projections.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
Of course, and then you know, because you thought Deshaun
Watson would come back and be better than he was
a year ago and that roster was loaded, so I
picked him to finish last. I'm wrong, okay, But they
never let you forget it. Every single week it said
something and have people that clip and save the clips
on from HQ and send them out. It doesn't help
that Former Steeler player Brian McFadden is on waving his
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pomp poms with me every week, and he kind of
throws fuel on the fire and doesn't help me out much.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, everybody needs a gas man. He is Pete Prisco.
Get him on ex at Prisco. I mean, listen, Brady's
he's got some other arrangement going on. And then LeVar
had to go catch a flight. He's got an early flight,
so we had to bail. So we're going. Yeah, going
solo tomorrow too.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
And I did.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
Solo radio for seven years in Jacksonville in the drive time.
And it's hard to do it by yourself.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
But it makes you better. It does make you better,
make you better, you know what.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
It makes you good at. It makes you good at
sound bites.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yes, and and preparation because if you go in with
no prep you are screwed after about seven minutes.
Speaker 8 (47:49):
So have to listen to those two all day. So
that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And that's always a plus. And you know that from
working with Brady for all those years. Absolutely, Pete, we
appreciate it. We'll do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
You got it. Take care of there.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
He is the great Pete Prisco at Prisco CBS is
where you can find him with a couple of parting
shots at Brady and LeVar per usual
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on
Fox Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I was trying to figure out who was the
more can't get right team this season, between the Cowboys
and the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well they pulled it off right, yep, and twenty seven
put a face to it.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Congratulations of the Dallas Cowboys, you one that can't get
right bowl last night one and at football, job well done.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Michael wasn't happy about that either bad way. He was
not happy about that can't get right lost.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Job well done.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Blocked the punt in a critical moment about to win
the gang only the muffet pulling a leon let from
years and years and years ago. And then Cincinnati gets
the ball back and Jamar Chase scores and that'll do it.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Folks have fun, drive home safely.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Talk about a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Roller coaster route of emotions, shah Lee on both sides, right,
I mean your Cincinnati you're.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Like, oh whoa, especially they were confused, especially this year
because Cincinnati has had so many losses late to.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Where you're like, oh, that's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, that one's worse than the last No, like Cincinnati's
been in spots this year to where you go, Man,
if this team could ever just close out a game,
they would be a problem in the postseason. And so
that's a moment in which always seemingly would have gone
against Cincinnati this year, and instead it goes against Dallas
at home a week this stuff usually happens to Dallas.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Zach Taylor looked like he had seen a ghost.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, he was like, I don't think he really wanted
to he knew what it was. I don't think he
wanted to accept that. That's what it was like.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It was a ghost of the winning lottery. Ticulate, Wait
what wait, Hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Wait you said, you said I what wait you said,
I one.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We got we got the benefit of the doubt there.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I said, what wait wait say that one more time.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He had the dumb found it look and Micah Micah
had to say, what next?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You said, who that? Yeah, he just he.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Said wait, wait, no, say it isn't true. No, say
it isn't So that that was That was Mike's face on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you want to hear a little Micah post, Oh,
let's do it. Speaking of speaking of sticks, here was
Michael Parson's Following the game, I wasn't.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Even really grasping what was going on. Nick made a
great play, and uh then you know, I asked the
rect you know he's playing. What happened to me that
we touched the ball? It was definitely a huge momentum ship.
I mean, we just caught a huge stop. We're going
in two minute drill. It's just real hard to you,
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you think, to believe you could pour that game out
from that situation.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
That hurts. It seemed like we're paying a dude.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
That's not fair, you know, I don't I don't know
if it's bad love karma, you know, tell me we
hold Joe Burrow the twenty points and two minutes off
of our offense, the way he was moving the ball
to day, I think we.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Can win the game.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So, uh, that sounds like.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
That wasn't too bad. He had himself together there good.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, he got a little emotional talking about an injury,
you know, to his teammate, uh elsewhere, But he walked
off the field.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
He turned his ankle again last night.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, he walked off the field, just incredulous with and
I was thinking about it and seeing and you guys
have talked about this, You and Brady, like Michah Parson
is one of the best players at his position in
the league. He's having a down year because of the
injuries and all that, but I mean he's still a
great player. That's got to be a really frustrating thing
to be a great player who can have such an
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impact on a game, but just not enough for you
to like win games, and yet you still go out
and play at a high level and only to see
random occurrences like that happen and it goes the other
way and you guys lose again at home like that
and embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
At least he's recognized as one of the greats in
the game before you got to the point of, you know,
your team being discussed in the way that they're being discussed.
I mean, that's how I would look at it. I mean,
he has he has tremendous value, you know, so when
you look at where he's at, I don't think anyone
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would question if they're winning and losing based off of
a handful of players. Ceedee Lamb is on that list.
He was upset. Michael Parsons is on that list. He
was upset, so you actually want guys like that if
they're on your.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Team, you want them to be upset, you know you do.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And and that's you know, to me, I think that
when when when you see a leader of a team
not be upset and not bothered, that's when you need
to start worrying because that's when, and you know, it's
their self preservation that is kicking in Jonas and the
idea that you know, your big guns, look at look
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at what's going on from a different lens of you know,
just just wanting to overachieve and wanting to win. That's
I think that that's when now you got to start
looking at your coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And and that's when you say, all right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Does this guy still have control of the locker room?
And and that's you know, if I'm Mike McCarthy, the
one thing that I would be happy about if I
were in this scenario is that my stars are still
getting frustrated and upset. Now, if that frustration and that
being upset turns into them saying, you know what, like
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what's going on in Philadelphia, but towards a coach, then
you got to assume that that's not that's not going
to be a good thing. But otherwise, I mean, you
got to be happy that your your big guns are
frustrated and upset that they didn't win the game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's got to be frustrating, though, if you're Cincinnati, because
you see, like Burrow's having the best year of his
career and it's kind of a waste because they're not
going to go to the postseason and they've been battling
and come up short in so many games this year
that they're gonna be on the outside looking in. And
yet you look at that team and you look at
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that the threat of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, Like
Jamar Chase is unbelievable, Like just to see and what
he's going to garner on the open market and what
he's gonna or what he's gonna get from Cincinnati, because
I don't think he'll hit the open market.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
About to say, you think they're gonna allow him all
to market.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I would be shocked. So they'll they'll figure out a
way to get that done. But you look at that
team and you go, man, there's a couple of those
games you go back on, like right now they're three
games out of the final playoff spot. A couple of
those games go the other way. Games they should have
won and.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
They didn't exactly, you know they didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And but one one person you can't blame it on
is Jamar Chase. Another person you can't blame it on
is Joe Burrow. I mean, when you look at the
way that they've played during the course of the season,
you'd have to assume that those guys have given you
performances that would would lend to winning the game and
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give it up to Hendrickson. I mean, they could have
still made a run to go get the touchdown that
they needed.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
You know, uh Rush was getting rushed.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And he did not have the opportunity to get his
feet set to to make good solid decisions throwing the ball.
I mean he was under duress, and the receivers can
get upset and they could be you know, bothered by
the fact that you know, Rush was delivering the ball
the wrong way in that moment, but you know that
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offensive line didn't hold up for him and give him.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
The fair opportunity to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So when you look at how when you look at
how they they came through for them. Speaking of the
Cincinnati Bengals defense in the crunch time in the clutch
for them, you know, and obviously holding Dallas to twenty points,
you know, you hold a team to twenty points, you
had a good outing and and so.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
But again, like.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like Mike I said, I mean, they held the Bengals
to twenty points.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That was a good outing.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And to have it, you know, close out the way
that it did against them, you know that that one's
a that's got to be a hard one to you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Swallow Trey Hendrickson, who's leading the NFL in sacks. That
was a guy who you know, he was another one
of those trying to get a deal done before the season.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
They didn't want to do it, Yeah, they didn't. They
didn't want to pay him.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They didn't get a long term deal for t Higginston,
they didn't get a long term deal for jamar Chi.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
He's done.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So yeah, they've got question marks as well too going
into next year. But I look at her and go, damn,
I just I can't help but think, if you're a
Bengals fan, how frustrating this year must have been. Because
who the hell wants to see Joe Burrow in the postseason.
It's one of two guys that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in
a playoff game. The other was Tom Brady, like you.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Know, and you know what's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Just hearing hearing hearing Colin Cowherd like hearing his his
his one kind of his take on you know, Josh
Allen versus you know, Patrick Mahomes. And if you put
up five touchdowns, you know, Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose. But
what's going on with with you know, with with the
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quarterback and in Buffalo, it's just kind of like, why
would you reign on Josh Allen for that when it's
it's all three phases of the game that play a
part and winning a game. They say, you win two
phases of a game and you're going to most likely
win the game. Joe Burrow, much like Josh Allen, has
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played MVP level football. But if your defense doesn't play
MVP defense, or your special teams as Aaron Rodgers, as
the New York Jets, if your special teams don't deliver
ask the Ravens and one of their letdown games, right,
if the special teams doesn't come.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Through for you and you lose that phase of the game,
then you will lose the game. Or I don't give
a damn who your quarterback is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so I know that they're going to say all
the right things publicly and listen, wines, a team loses,
a team, all of that crap that we hear all
the time. But you've been on teams where you've done
your part and somebody around you hasn't. You're not giving
them the side eye, or there's not a conversation behind
closed doors. It's not in front of the media when
it comes to hey man, like I'm out here on
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my part, where the hell are you? Like nobody has
those discussions or nobody's giving them a dirty look, like
what's happening here? How do you not make that play
at that point, especially when I'm having the best season
of my career.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, if it's if it is a if it's
if it's a kicker, you're going to feel a certain
type of way about them. And I mean it's just
kind of it is what it is. It is what
it is. Only you look at the kicker or you know,
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you know what's sad about you know what's sad about
a Ruier.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You know he's a penn stater man. And I can't
believe that we would have.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A penn stater can't get right at one of the
biggest moments in the game, but.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
That that's here north there.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I just think that when you when you have somebody
like a kicker or a punter or a long snapper
mess up the game, like mess up their part of
the game, I think it kind of. I think the
pain of that disappointment hits so hard and cuts so
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deep and that person in particular, that you really don't
even need to do anything. You really don't need to
look at them crazy because they already know that they
looked crazy. You really don't have to scream at them
because they already know that they did something crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Man, what's wrong with you? Man? And I think that
at the end, when it comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
When it comes down to it, I never was one
to get into the kickers' faces or anything like that,
do anything crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
But in my mind I would be.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sitting there like, God, dang bro, like all you do
is kick like that punter. That punter allowed that ball
to get blocked at the biggest moment of the day. Now,
granted they released the dude, let the dude run free,
but you got one job to do, and that's get
that ball off and don't let it get Like the
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worst case scenario in that moment for Dallas would have
been to allow or for Cincinnati would have been for
them to allow Dallas to come free and block.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
A put and that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So to me, I, you know, Jonas those moments, there
are some dudes that be like, man, I'm gonna f
you up, you little mother, This, that and the other.
There are some that can't handle it. But for others,
it's just kind of like, you know that the pain
cuts so deep because that's all they do.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's like you're waiting.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Your turn, and your turn comes when you score touchdown
or you get into scoring position. And it's interesting because
it's a very very lonely job.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
It's a very very lonely job.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That moment where that ball is snapped and you got
to step up to it and you got to kick it.
All eyes are on you for that moment. It's not
you trying to complete a path, it's not you running
the ball down the field, catching the ball for a touchdown.
All eyes are on you to see if you can
use your foot to get this ball through these big
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ass uprights. And give the team points that they need. Like,
that's you know, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well
it's a lot of loss.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But that's the only pressure you have on you, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, that's true. A lot of losses for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
So there's this report that came out last week that
Bill Belichick is kind of kicking the tires on a
return to coaching.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Here you go, you love this one? Well, you know,
if Q was on the show today, be like, oh, Jonah,
you just really love running this one. I mean, you
just really love running this one.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Johan.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean, do you know how many times I've had
to sit here and sit through some conference realignment nil
conversation that I don't give a rip about on this show.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean it's funny because do you be having topics
he don't like to talk about, and he'd be having
topics you don't like to talk about. It's funny seeing
it play out on radios. I think it makes the
radio better per personally. But I just figured, in his absence,
I figured I'd just run it the way he would like.
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Jonas like, jeez, nobody really cares about I have one
hundred different topics that are better than this one that
you were about to talk about. Hold on, hold hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
On, hold on.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
How about the fact that I sent Lee.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
A hundred different, one hundred different.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Stories, and this is the story you want to settle,
Lanel Well, we do, go ahead, Jonas, I guess you'll
want to talk about squatty potties next.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
To well listen by the way that is, and.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Lee talks about the ones that light up at night.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Hey, hey, you want to you want to know something.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Brady's getting this come up and next time he's on
this show because I told him, and I either may
have bought him a squatty potty or he bought it
himself because of a recommendation for me. And he filmed
him and his daughter throwing it away because he disliked
it so much.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And here we are, you know, because if.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
You sent me one, that might be what I sent you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I know, But but he filmed that and has
just made fun of me ever since then because of it.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And now we just heard a squatty potty.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Commercial during the show during one of the breaks, So
I was ahead of my time, man.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Me, Hey, bro were coming up. Man, That's all I'm
gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They know their audience.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I mean, god.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Lee commercials now, by the way, he's throw one of
those in the bathroom. I'm talking about busting caps and
people's asses. We got squatty potties, we got blue shoes.
This is a man's man show.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Damn right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
If you didn't know, I mean, ladies, I hope you're
listening because this is like what masculinity is supposed to
sound like, you know, outside of Jonas you.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Know, Hey.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
And Lee by the way, me and Lorena you know.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
All right, So Bill Belichick, so there was apparently Belichick
met with North Carolina for five hours over the weekend.
All right out, I haven't spent five hours with my wife,
let alone talking to the team about a job. And
so Belichick spent five hours talking with North Carolina to
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try and see whether or not the fit works and whatnot.
I think the assumption is, well, you know, he's just
kind of.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Getting his name out there.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Maybe a job will be opening up, who knows, I mean,
depending on how this whole fiasco works in Philadelphia, maybe
it'll open up there. But nonetheless, Belichick was on the
Let's Go podcast talking with Jim Gray not only about
the North Carolina interest or potential interest, but also about
a potential return to the NFL.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
I think it's a process of just understanding, you know,
what the mutual goals, expectations, and resources are, to find
out whether it's a fit and in the process and
who's to say how goes.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
But this is not to say that pro football does
not still hold tremendous appeal to you.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, Jim, I maan, I'm open to you know a
number of thoughts. I've had an interesting year this year
working to in somewhat of an.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Analytical and media role.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Football at any of the college or a professional level
does interest me, and I would explore those opportunities as
well and ultimately see what, you know, what everybody has
to offer and what be the best fit for me
and potentially another organization or it could be in the media.
I have an open mind and have a I think
the college game is closer to the program game that
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it's ever been with the new kind of landscape in
college football. So you know, I've explored it and we'll
see see how.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
It works out.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
I think it's widely assumed that you'd like to win
another Super Bowl, and I think it's widely assumed that
you'd like to break down Shoelea's record. Is that and
are those two things in the forefront of your mind?
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Yeah, Jim, I don't have any set goals. I'm open
to different opportunities going forward, and I know it's the
valuator as they come.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So sounds like someone who is posturing in a very
very strategic way.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Doesn't he already sound like he's in coach mode.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Again, he does not, but not all the way. It
doesn't sound like he's all the way.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But when you've heard him talk on the Manning Cast
or the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, you've heard
him on Inside the NFL, you know he's, you know,
an analytical just kind of get that right there. Sounded
like Belichick at the podium in New England more so
than I've heard in this entire offseason. He's already getting
into coaching mode. Already getting into coaching mode.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You know what it sounds like to me?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
What's that It sounds as though he is basically letting
people know that, Hey, I yeah, I certainly would come
out of where I'm at right now and coach just
as long as a you let me do everything I
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want to do. That's what five hours would consist of.
Imagine the amount of structure and information that that Bill
Belichick has in terms of what he would want coming in.
Do you have the resources to be able to support
what it is that he laid out to you in
detailed I mean, he probably has a very intimidating, one
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of the most impressive ways of interviewing for a job,
because what he's going to show you is probably like
he's opening up a treasure chest and in that treasure
chest like it glows like the gold and everything like that.
And it's just the information that that man has. And
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you can only imagine, I mean, the amount of talent
that has come through both coaching and players and front
office people that have come from the Bill Belichick tree.
I can't even imagine what that would look like, what
that five hours look like with him, And probably a
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lot of it came this chumming it up. But I
can guarantee you he laid out and detailed what it
is that it would take for him to actually come
and coach at your for your team.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And what's crazy is.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
There's there's probably there's probably an NFL team that is
to the point now where they would actually consider and
entertain Bill Belichick coming in and getting exactly every single
thing that he would want detailed in order to come
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there and coach their team.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, one of the other I saw this story that
came out from Pro Football Talk that reported that Belichick,
I guess, is surprised that no NFL teams that have
openings have reached out to him about any interest next year,
and those teams would be the Jets, the Saints, and
the Bears. The Jets would make some sense. He's not
going back to the Jets, all right, that didn't work
out the first time he's been critical of the owner.
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Not going to happen. The Saints, I think Darren Rizzy's
going to get the job there. I think they like
what he's doing. The Bears, that doesn't make any sense
to me. If you were to say, what is Belichick's
specialty attention to details? And discipline. I don't know, feels
like that would be a team that could probably use
a little bit of that at this point this year, Like,
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why would you not have already reached out to him
to gauge his interest or have a conversation. I know
it's in the season, but you can do that quietly
and privately and not have anybody find out about it,
and at least have a discussion with him, Hey, this
is what we're thinking, this is what the structure would
be like, is this of interest? Would you like to
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have a formal interview in the next few weeks after
we make a decision long term and based on what
we saw in San Francisco for Thomas Brown, he's probably
just the interim and not going to get the job
full time after that. I just why would you not
reach out to him? He's the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
To do them?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Unless to do it, unless there really is just this
feeling no, it was all Tom Brady and Belichick had
nothing to do with it. That could be my only thought,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Just I just look at Bill Belichick and I say
to myself, at his age and his level of accomplishment,
why would you deal with any buffoonery. Why would you
walk yourself into a scenario unless you're a drama drama.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
King, right, and you're okay with.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Being in a scenario where there's like this type of
confusion or you know, disruptive type of things that are
going on, dysfunctional type of things, and had already told
y'all a hundred times over, I don't care if you're
Bill Belichick. If you walk into dysfunction, you're not going
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to be a good enough coach to out coach and
outperform the dysfunction. So at his age, why why would
he want to step into a situation like that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't think Chicago because that they fit the bill
of just complete dysfunction.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And you know, if they're not even entertaining the idea
of having.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
A conversation with Jim Harbaugh last year, I can't imagine
Belichick pops up on the radar. But I do think,
and Albert Breers reported this before, if the Eagles job
opens up, I think he's got a good relationship with
Howie Roseman the GM, and that's a ready made roster.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Why why would you not enter?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think he absolutely would take that job, and I
think he would take the Giants job for sentimental reasons
because of how much he loves the owner ownership there
and how fond he is of his time with the Giants.
But that also, I don't know, man, you and he
can say, you know, kind of dismiss the thought of
the Don Shula record and all that. I I one
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believe that that's part of the appeal that he wants
to break Don Shulder's record, allegedly him and Don Shula.
He's not a big fan of Don Shula's or wasn't
a big fan of Don Shula because Don Shulda was
critical about the flate gate and the spygate and all
that stuff. When it came to his wins. I think
he would love to do that. I just him at
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the college game. It's interesting, But if it is about
the all time wins record, I just don't see it happening.
I think he goes back to the NFL this season.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I just think that the level of difficulty it would
be for Bill Belichick to be in a situation where
people can dictate to him. Either we're looking at a
situation in a scenario where we a say, you know,
what an old dog can learn new tricks, and so
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looking at what Bill Belichick has going on, you.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Actually believe that he can approach this and.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Say, you know what, Hey, I'm just going to coach
like you guys, do everything you need to do over here.
But my whole thing is Jonas. If we're seeing reports
that it was a five hour a five hour meeting
with Bill Belichick, I would have a hard time believing
that you just spent five hours like yucking it.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Up, like, oh, hey you're Bill, You're sharing war stories.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh my gosh, tell me another story about Tom Oh,
tell me about super Bowl number three, number four, number five.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And it took five hours to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Now, just don't feel as though that would be Bill Belichick,
unless maybe he saw what took place this past go
around when he went to Atlanta and felt as though
maybe just maybe he doesn't need to be so much
Bill Belichick until he gets the gig.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
But if that's what, if that's what it is, do.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You really want to brown nose or or you know,
kind of deceptively get the job. If you're Bill Belichick,
why play that game at his age?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
What does that mean? Brown nose?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
What does that mean? Nose in the button? Oh? Damn,
did I get dumped?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Is that dumb worthy? Rana?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, it could anyway, that's I mean that you sniffing,
you know what I mean? And that that's you know,
I don't know why that's an endearing term in terms
of sucking up to someone, but that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Anyway. I had that here, Hey Jonas, I don't need
to do that.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I have that every day.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
What stoping oup? What do you mean brown nosing?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just don't think that Bill Belichick, with his resume
and all of the good things, it's not like he's
sitting at home twiddling his thumbs and doing like pogo
sticking with his girlfriend and stuff like that and double dutch,
you know, jump roping. I mean, he's busy. You know,
he's working, he's showing people his personality. Maybe he's even
(29:17):
showing himself his personality. Maybe he's had some illuminating experiences.
But my whole thing is, you gotta be careful sometimes
the things that make you great when you're forced to
have to adapt and to adjust, sometimes that just doesn't
lead to the type of results that you've gotten in
the past. And he's got to be mindful of the
(29:40):
fact that you know there's a reason why old head
coaches are, you know, rapidly dropping off and one of
his most famous counterparts and Nick Saban they don't like
just it might make more sense to just stay in media,
just be your coach, coach up and criticize other teams.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They're both fantastic and they're good. They're good, and who's
going to say they're wrong? What analyst is going to
come back and be like, yeah, Bill, that's uh, what
with that?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Like, could you imagine him and Q doing the show
like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What whole whole whole, whole whole hole, whole up coach,
whole up coach.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Like you have me Anyway, I just I don't I
don't see I don't see it making a ton of
sense for Bill Belichick to take on another coaching project,
which of what it would be a project to rebuild
if he gets the opportunity, if if he doesn't have
(30:40):
the resources and has the control, that he would want
to to take the job.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I just don't see that. I don't see that making sense.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I do have a question, Lee, can you look this
up real quick if you don't mind, could you look
up LaVar mentioned this and I don't even know if
these are still in existence. Pogo sticks? Are those still
in existence? Because let me tell you something, she really yeah,
Oh there's like extreme pogo stick competitions still.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Oh yeah, you gotta be strong to.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You gotta wear a helmet and like they jump off
and let me tell you something. You better you better
be sober if you're a guy on one of those, because.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, oh well, you know fate. Fate will step
in and you'll start blending in.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
With They call that stick the sticks valance, stick on stick, valance,
don't get stopped.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
How much is a pogo stick?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Like, oh, no, fifty bucks, but the pogo stick my
car was seventy five.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Good though.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, they got some good ones out there now, don't
get it twisted. That pogo stick. You could go over
a fence, will you could? You can pop up like
one of them, kangaroo, really one of them extreme pogo.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Can you go over? How high can you go on
a photo? There's got to be a limitation, right.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Our daughters doesn't go very high?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
About ten feet?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Can you really go that high?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's capable of going ten feet?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Dang, that's high man?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You could you could pogo stick over Wemby.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You could pogo stick to the top of the rim
of a basketball room.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Hey, bro, I'm looking at this joint. It's one eighty five. Oh.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Their their shoes, their pogo shoes, their boots like them blades.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Damn they made pogo shoes. Well, hey, listen, look at
this one.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
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up Baby, Arizona State Big Twelve champions.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
How are we feeling?
Speaker 8 (33:16):
Can you believe that? I mean, it really is, Jonas
an amazing story when you look at it. They came
from nothing to being picked to finish last to being
a team with a buy in the first round. I mean,
it doesn't happen, and it reminds me of ninety six
and ninety six. They were a nothing team going into
the season, upset Nebraska early in the season. They were
(33:38):
the number one team in the country, and they came
within a whisker of winning it all in the Rose Bawl.
And so look, it's amazing where they're at. Kenny Dillingham's
done a great job and I'm along for the ride.
I'm loving every.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Bit of this.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I still remember that Jake Plumber Rose Bull performance at
Who did they play in the Rose Bowl was that
it was Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
What happened was is back then they had they didn't have,
you know, the national playoffs. So Florida State and Florida
played in Ohio State and Arizona State played Arizona State wins.
They win the national title because Florida had beaten Florida
State or went on to beat Farda Florida be Florida
State later that night. What happened is the issue takes
a lead with a minute to go in the game
(34:21):
and they let Joe Jermaine hit David Boston with about
fifteen seconds left for a game when he touched down
they had no business getting because the coach at Arizona State.
Of course, you know me, I'm going to find something
to pick him off, pick on for he called time
out on third down on the goal line when he
didn't need to, so he gave him too much time.
But you know that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So I remember hearing this discussion that we had. This
was in the summertime, and there was a ranking that
came out and it might have been Dennis Dodd at CBS.
I forget who it was that ranked the coaches in
the Big Twelve, and Dion Sanders had a gripe against
I think it was whoever is that wrote the article
(35:01):
about from CBS, because he was ranked second to last
when it came to coaches in the Big Twelve, and
coming into the season, the guy who was ranked below him,
dead last was Kenny Dillingham. And yet here they are
Big Twelve champions. To see the job that he's done there,
it just impressive as all hell. And man, Cam Skataboo
(35:24):
is as fun as anybody there is to watch in college.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Football, he really is.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
And the quarterback's good too. I mean he's a retro
freshman and he gets better and better, and there's a
and somebody actually put it on Twitter. I don't know
who did it, but I said it when it happened.
His little run to get a first to keep first
down in that game reminded me of Jake plumbers On
in that Rose bul and it has the same kind
of feel to it. So, look, they're going to play
it Atlanta. They neither to play Clemson or Texas. I'd
(35:50):
rather play Cleans it. But the way quinn Ewers is playing,
I'm not worried about either one of those teams. They
could be either one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So he is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio, CBS, Sports HQ. You can get them on
x at Prisco CBS. Was that not the perfect way
for the Dallas Cowboys to lose a game at home
last night?
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Or what you always asked me? You always ask me
a game I picked that went rotten because it had
no business going rotten. Your Cowboys were my pick, by
the way, So I mean not only that, you're getting
what was it five and a half? I think we
picked it at So you get it five and a half,
you get that play to happen, but then you figure, okay,
they'll go get a field goal. But no, they go
(36:29):
get a touchdown and so they cover the number. So
my pick record is horrendous this year. I am so bad,
it's unbelievable. But maybe it's because Brady's not around to
do the picking with me and Kyle Long who's picking
with me now it's just absolutely destroying me. And so
that's that's the way the season's gone. But yeah, for
the Cowboys, I mean, it was the old Leon left play.
(36:52):
You know, how do you not know that once the
ball goes over the one the scrimmage, you can't touch it.
I mean it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, And just if you're if you're a fan, watched
that team at home this year, going back to the
playoff game from last year, I mean, if you got
season tickets, just sell them, like, you know, give him
to somebody, Like why even go be a part of it?
But another heartbreaker for Dallas. And I was saying, but
and Levarn and I were talking about this earlier. It
kind of feels like a wasted year for Joe Burrow
in the sense that he's been fantastic and they're going nowhere,
(37:21):
like they've been on the wrong end of so many
difficult losses and then you come to have the conversation
about t Higgins after the season, Trey Hendrickson was leading
the league in sacks. They weren't able to get a
long term deal done. We don't know how the whole
Jamar chasing is going to shake out. Like it feels
like Joe Burrow is probably looking around going I think
he said as much best year of his career. Yet
(37:42):
it's going to be all or not because they came
up on the short end of so many close games.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And the amazing thing about it is is the way
he has to navigate the pocket and still make plays
down the field. I mean, the guy's been fantastic this year,
really is. I mean when you look at him, it's amazing.
And on the flip side of that is you know,
you got a chance to get the triple crown. I mean,
he legitimately has a chance to win. You know, catches
yards and touchdowns and I mean that's that's an amazing feat.
(38:10):
So yeah, it's tough because watching him is so fun.
But then I guess when you watch that defense, if
you're a Begels fan, you get so frustrated because they've
been so bad, particularly in the secondary. This year.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Do you buy the Bill Belichick North Carolina interest that's
out there, or do you think ultimately he makes a
return to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
I think if it's up to him, he'd go to
the NFL. But I think he's trying to set his
kid up at post, you know, when he retires. I
think that's what it is. Yeah, the word is is
that he wants to make his son the coach in waiting,
and his son is the defensive coordinator at Washington right now,
and so I think that's some of the things that play.
And you know, he said the funny thing is he
(38:50):
says he's set it up like an NFL team and
an NFL organization. You know where I heard that before
at Arizona State when Ray Anderson and Herm Edwards took
over and it didn't work. You know, they said it
was going to be an NFL organization. We're going to
do things that way, and it's going to look like that,
We're going to have the scouting department and this and
this and this, and it just didn't work. So if
(39:11):
you don't, here's the bottom line. As you right now,
you know this is an aberration season. How do you
compete with Alabama Georgia, Like, if you're North Carolina Clemson,
how do you compete with those team when they're so
far ahead of everybody else. It's so hard to do,
so we do. I think he's interested in being a
guy who goes out and recruits and gets in the
(39:31):
transfer portal and do all that. No, but I do
think he might be trying to set up a sun
for the coaching waiting.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I just think he looks at the opportunity to break
the all time wins record in the NFL, Don Chula's record,
and I think that's something that's that he would absolutely want,
Like that would be something he would pursue. Obviously, if
things work out and his son could be the coach
in waiting, that would you know, take precedent over that.
It would be my assumption. But I also wonder if
(39:59):
he's looking at at some of these gigs. Look, you're
close with the Jaguars organization, you followed them for a
lot of years.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Would that make sense for Belichick to take over?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is that roster close to competing, as Sead Cohn was saying,
the best roster that they've had in the history of
the organization.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
It's a good job because Trevor Lawrence is there and
they do have some young talent, But how do you
hire him as the coach if you have don't give
him personnel power. And Bill Belichick with personnel power one
very good in New England and the last part of
his career, So that's going to be the rub for
any team that hires him. And I think that was
(40:37):
part of the problem in Atlanta last year. Bill Belichick,
if he just came in and was coaching and had
no say so on the personnel decisions or who's making
the personnel decisions, would be a fantastic hire. But Bill
Belichick as head coach and general manager is not. Bill
Belichick head coach got fired because Bill Belichick general manager
didn't do his job the last couple of years. So
(40:58):
and you can look at New England's and see it
doesn't have a lot of talent on it. So I
think if you hired him just to be the coach,
would he be okay? If he were the guy getting
told this is your players, this is your players were
picking this, and he doesn't have the input on that,
and not my input. He would have input, but by
not making the final decision that would be something to
(41:18):
keep an eye on for any organization that would hire him.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So what do you think the future for Trent Balky
is there? If we all believe that Doug Peterson's going
to be out the door, is that mean Balkey follows.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
With him or no, should be? I mean he should
have been gone a couple of years ago. I mean
think about that. At one point, if they didn't win
this past week, they were on the pace to be
the first team to pick first in the draft three
out of five years. Ever, and usually when that happens,
a team gets out from underneath his own self and
he hasn't got him under there. The problem is shod
(41:48):
Khn has been loyal to a fault and I think
you know, look look at Balky. He's played the game
over the years. He got Jim Harbaugh fired in San Francisco.
Jim Harball, one of the great coaches in college and
NFL has ever seen. He got him fired because he
didn't want to work with him anymore. So that tells
you the kind of angle player and the way he
plays the game. He's good at it. In fact, he's
(42:09):
a pro at it. He's got a lot of people fired.
So I would be shocked if he came back, but
the way the way Shot con operates, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Prisco CBS. What do you make
of the Eagles' latest mess where you've got AJ Brown
calling out the passing game and then you've.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Got Brandon Graham going on.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
His local show in Philly last night saying, you know,
there's their relationship has changed.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
They used to be friends. Jalen Hurts is trying.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
AJ Brown's got to do better than he backtracked when
it came to that. Then it stirred up Terrell Owens
vers Donovo McNabb all over again. What's the latest mess
there in Philly?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, Look, anytime a wide receiver starts complaining about the
passing game, A, it's expected, and B it's never good
thing to do it in public like that and call
out your quarterback. So look, remember it was the old
T l Owens and Donovue map. We We've seen this
play out before, and I do think that they need
to sit down and fix it. They're one of the
(43:11):
better teams in the league. It he wrong? Is the
passing game is as good as it should be, probably not.
But when they run the ball the way they do,
it doesn't need to be right now. At some point
it will be, so sit down, go iron it out.
But never a good look. When a winning team has
wide receivers complaining about the court so they need to
fix that, it's not a good look.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I've never seen an organization that wins and is still
miserable half the time. It's odd, like the fact that
Nick Sirianni's even on the hot seat going into the
season never made any sense to me, Like all he
does is win. He's like twenty six games over five
hundred or whatever it is at this point. And I
know that last Sunday against Carolina was a little bit
(43:53):
tricky and it didn't go the way that a lot
of people thought it was going to go, but they
still won the game, and for some reason, and that's
not enough in Philly.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (44:03):
It's a it's always that. And look Sirianni, you know,
kind of you look at him, he never looks like
he's happy, even when they're winning by twenty and maybe
that's just kind of bleeds on down. But you're right,
the fans. Look, the fans are the most as passionate
as anybody in the league, and anybody's ever been to
an Eagles game knows that. But they're also turned quickly
(44:23):
and they get angry, and I think that kind of
bleeds over under the team. And they play. They play
with an attitude, they play with the swagger, and they
play with the nastiness, but they also tend to have
the problems and at some point, you know, that's on
Sirianni to fix it. It'll be interesting to see how
he does, but it's on Sirianna to fix it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's Pete Prisco joining us here. Last one for you, Pete.
I did see on social media that, you know, some
people were giving you a hard time about the Steelers
your Steelers picked before the listen. I just want you
to know I think a lot of people were down
on the Steelers going into the postseason because they were playing,
paying like twelve bucks and a bag of rolled golds
to two quarterbacks that nobody thought were actually going to
(45:04):
be factors this year. One of them was injured in
training camp. I bet everybody thought it was going to
be a down year. I was with you. I thought
they'd finished last. The idea that you're getting blowback for it,
I just want you to know you got a friend
in me, pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
It's amazing. And look, Okay, did I say that Russell
Wilson probably wouldn't be that much of an upgrade? Yes?
Is he an upgrade? Yeah? The Russell Wilson we saw
in Denver the last couple of years wouldn't have been
an upgrade. So but again, they play Pittsburgh. I mean,
they played the Eagles this week, they played the Chiefs
coming up. We'll know more about that team coming up.
If they win those games. I'm gonna sit here and
(45:37):
say I was wrong. They were right. The Steelers are
legitimate and the true contender. If they don't, then you're
going to go into this into the playoffs, and they're saying, well,
maybe they weren't as good as we thought they were.
And again, they're good. I don't think they're great. Do
I think they're a true contender in the AFC right now?
Maybe if Russell Wilson can play that way when he
(45:59):
if he plays the way he has been playing against
the Eagles, and I'll sit here and say that was wrong.
But you're right, the Steeler fans they cut boy, they
get after you, don't they It's like.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Who's optimistic on Pittsburgh this year? Like no, but like
everyone looked at it is like, oh, this is going
to be the year Tomlin finishes below five hundred. So
it's not like this is you were the one person
and no, Like there were a lot of people that
looked at their situation and said, in comparison to Cincinnati Cleveland,
who's got a great roster but has been riddled with
injuries and bad quarterback play, and Baltimore, who was a
(46:31):
game away from the super Bowl last year, that would
be the go to pick the Pittsford who finished last.
It's not that foreign to anybody who was going back
to August talking about the season projections.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
Of course, and then you know, because you thought Deshaun
Watson would come back and be better than he was
a year ago and that roster was loaded, so I
picked him to finish last. I'm wrong, okay, But they
never let you forget it. Every single week it said
something and have people that clip and save the clips
on from HQ and send them out. It doesn't help
that Former Steeler player Brian McFadden is on waving his
(47:04):
pomp poms with me every week, and he kind of
throws fuel on the fire and doesn't help me out much.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, everybody needs a gas man. He is Pete Prisco.
Get him on ex at Prisco. I mean, listen, Brady's
he's got some other arrangement going on. And then LeVar
had to go catch a flight. He's got an early flight,
so we had to bail. So we're going. Yeah, going
solo tomorrow too.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
And I did.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
Solo radio for seven years in Jacksonville in the drive time.
And it's hard to do it by yourself.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
But it makes you better. It does make you better,
make you better, you know what.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
It makes you good at. It makes you good at
sound bites.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yes, and and preparation because if you go in with
no prep you are screwed after about seven minutes.
Speaker 8 (47:49):
So have to listen to those two all day. So
that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And that's always a plus. And you know that from
working with Brady for all those years. Absolutely, Pete, we
appreciate it. We'll do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
You got it. Take care of there.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
He is the great Pete Prisco at Prisco CBS is
where you can find him with a couple of parting
shots at Brady and LeVar per usual
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