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Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys tell critics to quit complaining about the 1st go around of the expanded college football playoff! Lions OC Ben Johnson seemingly shows off with a trick play vs the Bears. Plus, a special Monday visit from the Old P, Petros Papadakis!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a coupled
Joe with LaVar arrings, Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So boys, you were there? Was it as cool as
it looked on television? The college football Playoffs?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
That was everything I'd hoped would be and more. Obviously
went to two separate venues. I'll let LeVar speak on
Unhappy Valley, but man, it was electric.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
It was here.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Here's the thing I love the most about it is
the passion behind it. Now that comes with some unfortunate things.
For example, in particular in Columbus, Ohio for Ohio State
and Tennessee young young man was told that Santa's not
real by an Ohio State fan who happen to be
written for the Volunteers. There was a lot of things

(00:55):
being thrown thrown around about the Civil War. A lot
of those things were mentioned in there. So there was
definitely a divide. There was definitely passion behind I think
the game of football and what was on you know,
the stakes and what was on the line. But it
was awesome, like every single piece of it. I know
there's gonna be people who complain about the results of
the game. We'll get to that, but I had an

(01:16):
absolute blast. It was the coolest thing I've seening.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah, we uh as some of you fans, we're pretty
confident going into it, you know. I had a few
of them at my tailgate. We were hanging out and
the environment was was amazing, Like it was almost it
had a tremendous feel of nostalgia.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
It's just like walking in there and looking around and
feeling the cold and seeing like the snow coming down
a little bit. It was it just gave you a
feeling of this is truly like a historical moment, and
you could feel it like I could feel it, and
I think everybody else could feel feel the energy in

(02:01):
the air.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Too, So it was. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
And then you know, for for to be a game
that was defined by you know, Penn State's defense and
most most more specifically by the linebackers, it was, man,
it just was.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
It felt right, It felt very very correct.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I was.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Kevin Jennings at your tailgate before the game. No, that's
what led to Okay, I was just wondering what that
was about. Kevin Jennings was not out of my tail
because he was he was serving it up he was
serving it. It did appear. It did appear, and it
was pretty obvious that the home field advantage was real.
And I don't know if that was why the blowouts

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happened in every single game, but it did feel like
the visiting team had a hard time either adjusting to
the conditions or just the overwhelming support and advantage that
the home team was getting. That's what it felt like
watching it. Maybe it was different in person, but that's
what it felt like watching it. It seems a big difference.

(03:07):
It's one of the reasons why I'd love to expand
to sixteen. And I know they probably won't. I know
they're probably gonna go.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
To fourteen or something else, but sixteen would make sense
because I don't know that these teams deserve buys, you know,
and I think we can figure like, like, here's the
reality is everyone's gonna complain about the results of the game.
Which if you're going to complain about that, then you
must not have been watching the NFL. When you look
at the average margin of victory in the wildcard round,
early early rounds in the playoffs also double digits, Like

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those games majority of the time are not even close.
Go back to twenty twenty three. Look at the playoffs,
look at the margin of victories and those so, like,
spare me your complaints about it. The other thing is
is it comes off is ridiculously hypocritical. Like we all
wanted the expansion of the playoff, We all wanted this environment,
these opportunities to be able to go to a home
playoff game, you know, this late in the year where

(03:58):
you've got the scenes of snow and everything else else,
and then when we get it, we're gonna complain about it.
I mean, come on, man, Like, have you watched the
four team college football playoffs semi finals? Those haven't been
competitive either. So anyone who went into these games thinking
that they were gonna be extremely competitive, they must not
have followed college football or even for that matter, watched

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the NFL, because that's kind of how it's worked out.
And I think if you were being honest with yourselves,
some people will take issue with this. But all the
favorites won, right, There was no upsets, which is kind
of how it's supposed to be. Now, I understand the
margin of victory was, you know, pretty big in most cases,
but the truth of the matter is, like those are

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four of the best teams in college football, and you
had at least at least two teams you would say
were on the bubble in SMU and I'd say Indiana.
And then you had a team that had three losses
that earned their way in by winning the a SEC
championship in Clemson. So the truth of the matter is
you probably had three of the teams that were fringe

(05:02):
teams anyway. But I just I hate to see people
complaining about a product in its first.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Year that, to me was awesome.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And and the worst part is is I don't know
that it's the fans so much as is the people
who actually work in the industry, which is what doesn't
make any sense to me. You know, everyone's kind of
complaining about you know, however, the matter, what does it matter?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
We got awesome college football environments and the next round,
to me, is only going to get better and better
as we had coached the national champion.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So I can't stand to hear people complaining about it.
We got what we.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Wanted, that's the expanded playoffs. Stop bitching and moaning about it.
I think that's what people are just conditioned to do it.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
And I think that's what it is. It's not just
college football. Ye, people are conditioned to do that, and
that's that's that's what it comes down.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Like the whole Like what did you explain there's no guarantees,
Like you get a matchup, You get a matchup, and
either the matchup's great or it could be a wipe out.
Like there's no guarantees, but the fact that you had
the opportunity to watch it and experience it. And I'm
the same way, like I look at it and go
it's year one, like this is the first installment of this.

(06:12):
And it doesn't mean that there's not going to be
an upset in the next round. It doesn't mean there's
not going to be two upsets next year. Maybe it'd
be Chalk next year as well too, But just the
idea that well, because we're just used to complaining, let's
just find something else to complain about it. It's like, okay,
then if we expand, then the team that gets left out,
you're going to complain about that, or if there's a result.
It just that's the way it goes.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Man.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
If it's such a negative approach, it's it's a waste
of time if you ask me, because at the end
of the day, those teams did something that warrant them,
earn't them the right and the opportunity you compete. So
at the end of the day, if they were to lose,
they lost. If they were to win, then you're going
to have something to complain about it as well as

(06:54):
it applies to that. So the bottom line is, you
had an opportunity to strap it up. You had an
opportunit unity to go out there and try it. I mean,
we had at length conversations about the bird that that
that Signetti had and how upset he was. He did
his interview and talked about what he talked about. Felt
like they should have had a home game and this
that and the other and so on and so forth.

(07:16):
And you know what, I believed them. I believed it, like, Okay,
they they played well this year and and and they
didn't show up.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
They didn't show up. I mean, maybe they showed up, man.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I mean I said, I felt like Notre Dame was
was improving dramatically, and the team that got clipped by
by Northern Illinois early on in the year, that team
is far long gone. That's not the same team. And
I felt like they were going to earn their way
and punch a ticket into into the playoffs. They proved

(07:53):
that they're not a team that was the same team
that had that loss. It was a very impressive and
decisive vic I looked at Tennessee. I thought Tennessee could
have could have went into after watching what Michigan did.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I thought that.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Tennessee had a legit opportunity to go into Ohio and
Columbus and win.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
It didn't work out that way.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
But if people are spending more time talking about all
the product is poor, this sucks, they shouldn't like, man,
look here, man, then go do something else. Go do
something else, Because when it comes down to it, when
those kids strap up, or when they're working out, or
when they're preparing and they're walking to class and they

(08:37):
decide a kid can decide to go to a school
that isn't one of the main power for schools. They
can decide to go to those schools, and they should
have the opportunity to work their ass off. And if
their record says that the committee is going to put
them into the playoff and give them the opportunity to compete,
then let it be that. Let it be that like

(09:00):
all these holier than the conversations about they didn't belong,
they didn't belong.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Let it play out, Let it play out.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
How do you get an opportunity to prove or earn
the right that they should be saying you should be there.
The only way you get an opportunity to do that
is if you get the opportunity to play. If they
never have gotten the opportunity to play, Oh, Alabama should
have been in Miami, should have been in Da Da Dah.
If you take traditional powers and you replace the teams

(09:29):
that have had good years, how do they get the
opportunity to grow? So is it the rich get richer
and keep the poor the poor? And you serve a
purpose for the season. You don't serve a purpose for
anything else further than the regular season. This is the
purpose you serve because you don't belong in the playoffs.
I think that's a bs man. Let it play out,
and it played out. God blessed the underdog's loss, okay,

(09:54):
and they had home games.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, Like it was great. I thought it was great
for college sports. And by the way, it's not even
like these are paid review events. You didn't pay for him.
So like the result is a result, you got what
you got, and people that are that are looking back
afterwards going, oh, well, if so and so was in
that game, it would have been different.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Tough balls.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
They didn't do enough to get there, like and you
want to blame it on the voters. It's like it's
like being pissed at somebody who advanced in your company
and you being like, man, I would do such a
better job of that's exact. Yeah, but you're lazy ass
didn't put in the work to get there, like so
so that there's like you're missing a key part of
the conversation. So I thought it was awesome, man, and
and I'm I'm happy it's here. And I thought the

(10:34):
scene man, Friday night, when Julian Love ripped off that
touchdown at the beginning of Ye sorry Jeremiah, when he
ripped off that touchdown at the beginning of the game.
I'm watching it on television, going, you can't get this anywhere,
Like you're not getting this in an NBA game. You're
not getting this anywhere else. To see that place go

(10:57):
bananas like it.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Did the way going bananas where I was at I
was in state college and and people were going nuts.
I mean, it was jam packed where I was at
watching that game, so cool man, The whole thing was
so it's exciting. Stop trying to take the excitement out
of it, Like everything doesn't have to be that way, Like,
just be excited about the fact that teams get to compete.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, I think it's also like you guys, kind of
you said, we're conditioned to just like whind and complain,
and obviously social media platforms give us the ability to
do so kind of freely, right, But it's also because
we focus so much on the results, Like we look
at the box score and we say, well, that game
was a blow.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
It was like I was at Ohio State Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
At no point, At no point did Tennessee feel like
they had any shot in that game. With the exception
of this credit the Tennessee volunteers for showing up, there
was probably I would say the split was sixty forty
sixty five, thirty five something like that. Yeah, there was
a There was thirty thousand plus, which is probably closer

(12:03):
to seventy thirty if you do the math. But there
was thirty thousand plus Tennessee fans there, and you could
tell like they made the trip they came up to
Columbus for it, like you could tell, like you know,
seeing him walk around campus, seeing them just around it.
Even in the stadium there were sections that were rather loud.
But after that first drive for Ohio State and Jeremiah

(12:26):
or Jeremiah Smith in the touchdown.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Like amazing.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And by the way, that's the Ohio State team that
I think Buck guys, fans and really anyone else who
follows college football has been wedding on all year like
that's a team that could win the national championship.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, not that way they looked the last time out.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
And this has kind of been Ryan Day's deal is
you know, when they struggled, they usually show back up.
But now it comes down to I'm not going to
say this is essentially the national championship, but Ohio State organ.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Games in the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Is the best two teams.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
It is like like when Ohio State plays like that,
it is. And the crazy thing is is it's just.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
A quarterfinal and one of them is going home and
the winner is probably going to go on to win
the national championship.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I would say they favorite or not. You know, that's
that's the beauty of it or not. Maybe you know
what I mean, Like, maybe it's that one day Michigan
went into Columbus and won. Maybe it's that one day.
That's why you do it. If we knew who was

(13:31):
going to win, just just you know, put the champion
in there, like like hit enter boom, here's who would
win because of their roster this that don't play the game.
Just it enter, Here's who would have won it crowned
them the champ. That's what makes it makes sense. And
for what it's worth, let's think about it. Penn State

(13:55):
does not they they they go three and out first draft.
SMU go straight down the field on Penn State. Their
first draft. They drop a ball that could have been
that should have been a first down touchdown and it
got away from him After that, like there were turnovers,

(14:18):
it got away. Who knows what the complexity or the
you know what that game looks like. If they get
that touchdown early in the game, it would have quiet
the crowd. The crowd would have been like, oh, here
we go. We can't win the big game. Everybody would
have been sitting there are we gonna hear boo?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Birds?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Are we gonna hear? People say? Franklin needs to go.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
It was a drop away from that place, having the
air sucked straight out and I was there because my
air the breath left my body when he dropped the ball,
like thank god he dropped that ball. So I'm just
saying there's the opportunity for for somebody think about the level. Like,

(15:04):
let me tell you something. Oregon is not coming out
to lose that game, because everybody who paid attention was like, dang,
Oregon beat them, Oregon beat Ohiose State in Ohio State
ain't going in that game to lose because they allowed
Oregon to get it. They are going to beat the
s out of each other in that game. Who's to

(15:25):
say that they're not going to be banged up or
or fatigued. There might be fatigue by the time you
get to the championship round. There might be I don't know,
who knows. I know that's going to be a throttle.
That game is going to be a straight up.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Tilt, especially the way the first one ended where you
had the clock miss man.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Come on, man, and they're both arrogant there, They're both perceived.
Did you see how arrogantly Ohio You know the flag
planters did you see how they were like kind of
like taunting the ten. Yeah, like don't don't don't act
like bitches, and moments where don't act like a victim,

(16:08):
and moments where it didn't go to where you want it.
And then you you get to a place where you're
treating other teams the way they treated them in that moment,
like like just.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Just rout or die with it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I found myself a couple of times, both in the
Notre Dame MA and the Penn State game early on
because you mentioned the drive when they're going down the field,
I'm like, oh boy, uh oh, like, uh here it goes.
And then when Riley Leonard's pass got deflected and picked
off early on in that game, I'm like, oh god,
that's all they need, Like you just need to give
Indiana some hope. But it was the fact that it

(16:39):
was the stage and it was the moment, and you're
living and dying early on with every single play because
you realize every play, the magnitude of it in that
spot was. That's why I like when people want to
get buried in the weeds with the complaints, I look
at it and go, you're you missed a whole lot
of great football there because you got caught up in

(17:00):
the box.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
For yeah, I I do.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
I do have to acknowledge a few bad beats.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
One SMU at midfield with two forty five to forty
six left and then and this is typically like how
SMU is played. We saw the AGC championship game. They
were down, came back, you know, push pushed Clemson into
the wire. But for anyone who had the over in
that game, that's out of fifty two to fifty two

(17:27):
and a half total scores thirty eight to ten at
this point, so forty eight and rt lashly And this
is for a team, by the way, that didn't win
the conference, that was a fringe team, doesn't play out
the game like Instead, they take out Kevin Jennings and
they put in a backup, which at that point I'm

(17:47):
thinking to myself, okay, like there's maybe a shot, but
the over is probably dead. I had a buddy who
was always sitting here watching it with and he just
goes ballistic. It goes irate, right, and it was about,
you know whatever, the the drive went down to it.
There's like a two minute warning, fourth and twelve. They
punt and I get it. You know, you're down so much,
there's not any chance that you're gonna be able to

(18:09):
come back and probably win. There's probably a less than
one percent chance, But to not play it out it
kind of bothered me. Like I understand there's even a
player's safety issue to some of that. Kevin Jennings got
kind of beat up in that game a bit, but
it wasn't like you like solidified your spot there and

(18:30):
in a moment where it's like it's about competition to punt.
No different, by the way, No different than Kurt Signetti
making the same decision down three scores, midfield, fourth down,
choosing to punt, And I understand his rationale because the
offense wasn't doing anything all day. But the game's already over. Bro,

(18:51):
you're not getting the ball back three times. I mean,
that's your best shot of having any chance whatsoever of winning.
I was extremely disappointed. If there was one thing I
was upset about was the fact that you had two teams,
probably the two teams that you wanted to make a
case who didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Deserve to be there.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Both their head coaches wave the white flag, and I
did hate seeing that. I hated seeing that from Indiana.
I hated seeing it from SMU. Not just forget the
betting standpoint of it, I hated seeing how they manage
that in the end because again not saying that it
would have or wouldn't have been a better matchup with
Old miss or Bama, whoever you want to include from

(19:32):
the SEC.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
But I do think those coaches.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I do think Caitlyn de Bor, I do think Lane Kiffin,
even getting their butt kicked, will play that thing out.
I don't think they're just gonna roll over and say, yeah,
let's punt. That was the one disappointing thing that I
would point to and say it will give the committee
I think in the future, maybe a little bit of pause.
I was saying, like, all right, we need to make

(19:57):
sure we get teams in here too. Understand this isn't
a g lift, like we feel like you both play.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
I went for They're like, what are you going for?
And for Frank line them up.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
That was by We're going one of the worst decisions too,
that got completely built out by the pick six completely
line them up.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
We're going we're going for the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
We're going for it.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
We're playing d We're going to play defense line them up,
We're going it was it was. It was a questionable call,
but hey, we went forward. And by the way, how
cold was State College? Because I sent you that picture.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Very cold. It looked like Siberia, right like.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It looked like there was no human life that wanted.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Any part is telling you that that it looked like
a throwback scene. I don't know what it looked. I
don't know what a throwback scene and reality looked like
because I wasn't here, But it just it looked like
the videos that they show in like our sports museum,
almost like black and white.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
You look miserable.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Good dude, y'all.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Y'all saw what coach Sabans hid when they was interviewing
the quarterback. He said, you got a hundred and some thousand,
you got the weather, and you got the de Penstate defense.
By the looks of it, is it the weather because
you're blowing on your hands.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
You're blowing.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
He's doing the interview, blowing in his hands to keep
his hands warm.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Bruh, That wind chill factor had that thing on blast
on blast.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
I'm telling you you couldn't breathe that joy. You know
how to air be hit you in the face.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
The hawk was out.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
The hawk was it was out.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
It was out.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
A bad boy was hitting you.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Has anyone checked on Lane Kiffin after Joel Clyd put
him in a body bag.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
This uh, this past weekend?

Speaker 6 (21:49):
See it?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Basically, Lane was trying to set a case for the
games not being competitive and I think obviously alluding to
Old Miss maybe it had been in or maybe even
just an SEC team, which Clad basically responded something along
the lines of, you know, if you have played as
well as you tweet, your team would be in the playoff,

(22:13):
which yeah, which, which is I mean, kind of a
compliment but also at the same time kind of true too,
you know, like, don't lose the Kentucky and you're probably
in the playoff. I shouldn't say probably you would have been,
but that's not where Old Miss is at. And you
could make that case, by the way, with a number
of SEC teams like like pick your pick.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Your loss for Bama. You know.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
But that's the one disappointing thing it is for me
to hear. At least, it's like when you hear coaches
who are part of this process almost like they're still politics.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Like, dude, it's over like they picked the teams.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's yeah, like worry about Duke, Like, just go be
Duke in the bowl game, otherwise you're going to be
eating those words.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It was.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
That was fun man, fun weekend.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Good for football.

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Speaker 2 (23:14):
Ladies and gentlemen. Not that it wasn't already, but the
offensive Rookie of the Year race over. That's a wrap,
folks put it to put it a bit Jade and
Daniels and the Washington Commandos have. I mean, they had
that little stretch there where they were just trying to
rid themselves of whatever change during the Steelers game, like
I don't know what, like something showed up there or

(23:36):
somebody was present and it kind of threw them into
a three game skid.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
But the Commanders, I'm not the mush. I'm not I'm
not the mush at all.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I mean, Jalen hurts injury or not, that's pretty impressive,
especially considering you were a minus four in the turnover differential,
and somehow they won that game.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yet horrible how many times they fumbled? Man Like, it's horrible.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's a brand new Washington commander.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
I just say this.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
And watching that game and watching the way it went,
I was like, you know, Washington hadn't had a signature
win all season, they hadn't beat a good team all season,
and it looked as though they were on that same
trajectory in that game. Now, a lot of people made
the you know, the statement that, well, you lost Jalen Hurts,

(24:23):
you lost Jalen Hurts, you didn't have Jalen Hurts. And
while all agree with that, I think if they have
Jalen Hurts, they still find a way to win that game.
And not to mention, if Davonte Adams doesn't drop that
Deavonte Smith, if he doesn't drop that ball, you know,
they don't even get the ball back and have the
opportunity to try to go down and win the game.

(24:45):
But it all happened that way. And you're talking about
a Philadelphia defense that's a highly rated defense, the highly
most highly rated defense.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
And you weren't.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
You weren't stopping them, and not only did you not
stop them, but you didn't overcome what was it, five turnovers? Yeah,
you didn't overcome five turn turnovers as a defense. So
to me, I felt as though people say it's more
about Jalen Hurts being out and the Philadelphia Eagles not
playing as well as they should have, and I'll i'll

(25:18):
push back on that, and I'll say that this is
a team in the Washington Commanders that showed resilience, They
showed fight, no quit. They and by the way, Jalen
Hurts was not missing because Jalen Hurts just wasn't playing.
Jalen Hurts got knocked out of the game. So that's
that's a that's a result of how hard they were playing,

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they were hitting that you could tell that there were
implications connected to this game, playoffs wise, seeding wise, and
the Washington Commanders came out on top.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Give them their.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Props, and give props to Jaden Daniels being a rookie
in that scenario and rushing for the yardage that he
did and delivering when he did so that that team
could win the game.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
I think they're two separate combos, Like there's no doubt
in my mind.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Jade Daniels has been the best player as a rookie
this season. Uh, and maybe right below it is probably
Brock Bowers, if we're gonna be honest with how we
look at it.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
This game though, turned when Jalen Hurts did go out
of the game, and even Kenny Pickett, who you know,
was being I think he had X rays on his
ribs after the game as well, So I don't even
know how how healthy he was even playing in the
backup role. So I think you can you can acknowledge
both things, like it's just the best that it could
have taken from the Philadelphia Eagles for four quarters.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
No, but to your point, that's kind of how these
games work out.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Like it's not you know, Washington's fault that you know,
Philly you know got beat up or you know Hurts,
your Hurts gets knocked out. And then even Picketts, you know,
battling through some stuff too. So that's neither here nor there.
At the end of the day, they overcame it. They
came back at a huge, you know, really fourth quarter,
and Jade Daniels has been everything Washington had hoped he
would be, And I think it puts a lot of

(27:02):
pressure on teams, like, if you're really looking at the
bigger conversation, this is in one year's time, right, dan
Quinn comes in as a head coach, we have a
new ownership group, Jade Daniels as your quarterback. They're turning
this team into a playoff team and into a contender.
And every one of these other games that you got
to watch, whether it's the New York Giants that we'll

(27:22):
talk about, or you know Las Vegas who obviously they
need to find a quarterback even though they won, you
start to look at some of these other franchise and
teams and go, that's the expectation now, Like there's other
owners looking around at Jade Daniels and Dan Quinn in Washington, saying,
why can't we do this, Why can't we find that guy,

(27:44):
Why can't we find a coach who can help us
turn this around in year one?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Why do we need to wait?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And that's the pressure that I think this time of year,
you see as you look at some owners who are
probably thinking, you know, hey, i'd like I'd like the
guy hired, But you know, why aren't things working out?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Why are we losing? Why are we drafting at the
top of the draft, and.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
It's going to be Shadu or who wherever he ends
up going, and they have to have the faith that
that quarterback and their current head coach or a guy
they're gonna go higher if they move on from him,
can turn this thing around. Like as awesome as it
is for Jayden Daniels in Washington, all the fans too,
I think you've been dying for something like this for
a while. There's also the conversation of like it puts

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a lot of pressure on a lot of other teams
out there too, who aren't winning football games that are
trying to find the next Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And also it kind of puts to bed the whole
well if you if you're drafting a quarterback, it's got
to be an offensive minded guy like dan Quinn is
completely turned around that program, that organization, and so like
to me, it goes, don't just hire whoever it would
be the best fit for the quarterback. Who's the best
best fit for the team, like the best fit for
the culture there. And they've done an amazing job. I

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mean they are one and done in the playoffs. Like
let's not get it, you know, twisted here.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
I would say that and't go that far. They're not
that's not a bad team.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
They're the Indiana of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Oh wow, how about that shot. Let mean, I'm not
even going to entertain that list. I'll further it by.
We had a conversation not too long ago about about
what would we have got if if Patrick Mahomes or
if Caleb Williams had gone to Kansas City, what we

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have gotten another Patrick Mahomes? And probably the answer we
we said was yes. So the bottom line to me is, yeah,
people are looking at what that looks like to be
able to bring in a quarterback or you bring in
a quarterback and a coach and you say, this is
what we can get if we do that, But it
comes down to how you're running your organization. And and

(29:47):
Caleb Williams could have probably been far and away the
offensive rookie of the year had he gone to a
better situation and a better scenario. He has still done
some excellent, amazing things. You just see the youth in
his game. You see that there are places where he
can have more development or have more things that he

(30:10):
needs to work on. And what does that look like
if he's somewhere else, and and so to me, you
could sit there and be witty Johnson and say, man,
we brought in Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
That didn't work.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Why can't we do bring in a new coach, bringing
a new quarterback, and we'll be okay.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Look in the mirror.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
You want to know who's not going to lie to you,
the person looking right back at you when you look
into the mirror.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Wait, so you can't lie to yourself.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
You can't lie to yourself. You can, but yourself knows
the truth. You know the truth, and to bottom size
themself all the time. Yeah, but he knows the truth.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
You can try to hold on, hold on, leelist himself
all the time.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Well, that might be the only exception to the rule
out of anything and everybody that I would say, you
can't lie to yourself, lee might be the only exception.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, you need practice. You got to start on
yourself for you can light anybody else.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
They say that habitual liars can convince themselves that their
own lives are true.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Like, I get that, But looking in that mirror, you
still know what it is that you had to do.
What is going on? Hammers everywhere, bang bang everywhere.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
On TV Road Trip Okay, it's great film.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I remember that movie. I mean, is that the one
with Tom Green? Yes, when I remember he holds up
the underwear.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
Whoa LUs right, whoa what?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Totally derailed my thought process.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
But all I'll say is if you're going, if you're
going to look at what you want the results to be,
then you got to give that coach and you got
to give that quarterback the environment to have the opportunity
to be able to accomplish that. If you're not going
to create an environment where it conducive to that type

(32:01):
of growth, because I'll tell you right now, you can feel.
You can feel it if it's negative, if it's positive,
if there's like a true essence.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Of this is what we need, this is what we want.
This is like do what you do.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
When I got to Washington and I went and visited
it was it was very evident. You could feel it.
Dan Quinn has walked into a situation where dan Quinn
can coach his coaches and they can coach their players.
And this is an environment where we don't walk into
the locker room and it's like we lost the game.

(32:39):
Don't look at them, don't say hello, or don't say hey,
or anything to them. If we win the game, it's
and hey, how you doing, mister Snyder, how's it? Shake
your hand? Dan Snyder would stand in front of the
f and door at our locker room after every single
shame as he should the team. Yeah, and if we won,

(33:02):
he shook your hand. If we lost, he just looked
at you. Now did he have his sons in the
locker room like Woody Johnson, Well, his son was too
busy up in the owner's box the owner's suite, ripping
up pool tables with the pool stick, and then the
security telling them don't touch him because this is Snyder's son.
Just let him ruin the pool table. People saying no,

(33:24):
little kid, don't do that. They're sitting there, security like, nah,
don't touch him. Let him do what he wants to.
Kid off the toy kid sitting there fing that that
pool table up straight, trying to rip the material off
with the pool stick.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Let him go.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
If that's the environment that you think is gonna lead
to you winning, then you know you got to live
with the results that come with it. But give God,
give props and respect to Washington's new ownership and the
job those guys are doing because it's given Dan Quinn
the opportunity to one do what he does best, just

(34:00):
build a defense that can can compete and can contend.
But two, you know, seeing that you have a rookie
and Jay and Daniels that looks like he's going to
be a really, really big contributor and superstar to the
National Football League.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So it is a holiday week, which means we've got
to make special arrangements and right now we are doing
so with a Wednesday tradition that is here on a Monday.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
He is the old p on X.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
He is Petros Papadakis, the Cost of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch and
five seven e LA Sports Fox College Football Analyst and
our good buddy Pee.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
What's happening? Good morning, good morning, Hello, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
This will be my final appearance of the year.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Of the year.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Nice. How do you feel about that anywhere? Feeling good?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I guess Oh, you're taking off completely for the rest
of the.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Ye Yeah, I'm not working nice, So this is it.
Good for you, brother, Thank you, I'm going to do it,
and thank you. Thank you for coming on with us.
Well you're you're welcome. Congratulations to both of you. Thank
you on your teams advancing in the college football Playoffs.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
What was your takeaway the same?

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I cannot say for Jonas why he's never gonna make it. Yeah,
it's too bad.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Really is unfortunate, you know, but at least that stadium
will get built sometime in the next twenty years, So
there is that. What was your initial takeaway of the
college Football Playoff, this twelve team edition that we got
to see with the home games, Petros Oh.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I don't know where to start. I mean, everybody's got
a lot to say about it. I saw Herb Street's
rant on TV and the end of the night he
had on Sports Center going after Indiana without you using
the word Indiana, And I mean, what if Ohio State

(36:06):
schedule has only one ranked team and it loses to
that ranked team, should an eleven and one Ohio State
team be left out?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Then?

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I mean, whoever is devising the conference schedule or whatever
the algorithm they say they're using to develop the conference
schedule has a big part of the problem because the
conferences that have sixteen to eighteen teams but don't have
divisions don't have structure in making the schedule, especially the SEC,

(36:38):
which only plays eight league games. And look, the one
thing the conference has all figured out how to do
was to pick apart the PAC twelve and to poach
its teams. But they can't figure out how to schedule
things equally. And there's a reason for that. It's impossible.

(37:01):
You know, if you have leagues, they should have eight
to twelve teams maximum. I mean, the last ten years
of the PAC ten was perfect. Every team played all
nine of the other schools and there was a true
champion every year. But if you have supersized conferences, trying
to create an equal or comparable schedule is a fool's

(37:24):
errand it's for idiots. I don't think it can happen,
especially with the way the players switch teams, yeah, you know,
or students switch schools if you want to put it
like that. Pretty hard to know just how good most
of these teams will be. Like Indiana and Arizona State

(37:46):
were picked to finish last in their conferences this season.
I mean, eighteen teams should be two different conferences, not one.
And if Herbstreet wants to blast somebody, blast your bosses,
the overseers of the sport, not Indiana or SMU, you know.
I mean, it's things look one way on a spreadsheet,

(38:10):
but you can't. I mean, they've created college football now, guys,
And I love our sport and I love watching the
crappy teams and the good teams and all the little
stories and everything in between. But we've created an annual
riddle that doesn't have a solution. The sport has grown

(38:31):
too fast, and nobody is protecting the walls of the
castle of the sport, and I mean it's just gotten
so dumb. It's kind of hard to keep track of anyway.
That's what I took away from the first week that
you know, there's so many things wrong that it's kind
of it's hard to sort out, and everybody wants to

(38:52):
point a finger and blame somebody, and it's just so confusing.
I mean, it's literally like a rock fight, Like, how
do you screw up a rock fight? It's already so.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Screwed up, right, I guess the tough thing for me
is I don't know that i'd call it wrong. I
feel like we're in a state of transition in college
football where everyone's trying to make what was a regionalized
sport a regular season sport now transition.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Into more of a professional model.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
And to your point about the size of conferences, yeah,
you're gonna have outlying years. I mean, we just talked
about Indiana frev What about Texas. Did they play the
toughest strength of schedule? Whoa I mean, and no one's
talking about that because Texas took care of business. They
beat a Clemson team that you know, probably was one
of the worst teams in the twelve team playoff but
happened to get in because they won their conference.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
So kudos to Dablos swinging in them.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
But the reality is is, you know, and I said
this earlier, there's always been blowouts like we see this in.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
The NFL too.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Last year, the our maverage margin victor is like seventeen
points or something in the NFL in the wildcard round
Vision round.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
So like, I don't look at these games and go, oh,
they were awful because they weren't close scored. Oh.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I feel the same way too, but I just I
think if we're if we're aiming to find a way
of producing the twelve best teams versus twelve most deserving,
we want to go down that road, you know, so
be it. There's a lot of things that we need
to kind of change or create more of a level
of playing field in college football. I'm more curious, do
you feel like because Indiana and SMU to kind of

(40:29):
bubble teams to not your traditional blue bloods, We're a
part of it, but got blown out it's branding oriented. Well, sure, sure,
But my question is do you feel like they lost
some equity now with the committee?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Like as we look forward, like if Boys.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Doesn't show up, Arizona State doesn't show up, do you
think next year they will give some of those blue
bloods like an Alabama or not old misses of blue
blood But do you think they'll give them more of
the benefit of the doubt in the future as opposed
to some of those smaller schools.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
I hope them doesn't exist anymore. Like, honestly, I really
think that they should take the whole committee on a
yacht and send it to the Seychelles and tell them
they're going to have a special three hour tour like
the Gilligans Island people. And just look, the non conference
scheduling needs uniformity across the power for if we're really

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going to have a professional model like you talk about.
And that transition has obviously been happening for a long
time and very quickly now, and it's painful. The power
conferences are going to have to realize. The conference championship
games appear to be on the way out. They're obsolete,
the twelve team playoff format, it's got to be fourteen

(41:41):
or sixteen. And I'm even open to centralizing the scheduling.
You know, let each school carry three rivalries and the
other nine games would be selected by a computer. And
it's not like I want the computer back or I'm
longing for the days of yesteryear. But as far as
I'm concerned, they should dump the committee as soon as possible.

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And I don't miss the old way we do things.
I want a new system to be fixed, though, as
soon as possible before it becomes too difficult to change.
And yeah, I think if Notre Dame got blown out,
ah well, because they're not in a conference that you
and they have a lot of haters and jealous people.

(42:24):
You might hear some of the same, but I think
it's because SMU got blown out and nobody wanted them
in the first place. There because they're not a blue
blood anymore. They were though, and everybody wanting there was
a mistate to fail and all this stuff. It that's
always been part of college football, and it's always been

(42:46):
a problem if you don't start out the season ranked
and you're undefeated. Sometimes, you know, with the old BCS
computers and all that, you used to have to climb
your way up and it would hurt you just because
your preseason ranking, which shouldn't mean anything. Every year is different.
But look, the whole thing's got a lot of problems.
There's always been blowouts, and of course I agree with

(43:09):
you Brady, there's a deep overreaction week in and week out.
But I mean, between that and the portal and the
nil money that these coaches have to spend all their
time figuring out, and all of these weird incongruities that
we've created in the sport, it's going to be hard
to find our way out to some kind of I

(43:31):
don't know, something that everybody feels a little bit more
secure about. But the sport has never been I mean
they never They used to pick the national champion before
they even played the bowl games for years and years
and years, for decades, you know, they did that. So
there's always been massive change in college football. But it

(43:54):
feels like we've just hit the gas or the gnaws
button in one of those souped up nitrous and none
of us can control our way to the finish line
this year.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Pet Trews, let me ask you this as a follow up,
what was positive do you did you pull any positives
from because for me, I know these are the conversations
that are are continuing to to kind of you know,
dominate what what's taking place. But at the same time,

(44:24):
it is a playoff and it isn't expanded you know field,
and there are I would assume for for people out
there that are seeing it as you know from such
aid like the standpoint that that we just discussed, did
you see any like positives to take away from well, Notre.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Dame Stadium on in December, you know, uh, happy valley
in December, filled with people having a great time. You know,
it's going to be a little more complicated asking these
fans to travel. It's not like basketball, where it's five
or six or seven thousand people. I mean, you're trying

(45:06):
to fill a stadium of seventy thousand and eighty thousand
people with fans, and you know, do you travel to
the semis, do you travel to the final? You know,
it's on old, that old kind of adage. But the
first week with the home games was spectacular, probably made
it a lot tougher for the road teams to win.

(45:29):
Home Field advantage in college football, to me is so
meaningful because the players are still young and are still
affected by the crowd and the emotion of the crowd,
and obviously in pro football and the professional sports, they
get so good at it and so used to it

(45:50):
that they can kind of filter that thing out and
maybe even enjoy playing in that environment. At the college
level with young guys, it can backfire on you. But
I mean, every game in the lead up, what's exciting,
so that that part of it was positive. I thought

(46:11):
the home games and all the people involved in having
a great time was positive. But everybody just just striving
to tweet and be a pundit in the moment and
have the confirmation bias of see this is what I thought,
This is what I said. This is this team doesn't

(46:31):
belong or this team doesn't belong. That stuff gets a
little tiresome and insufferable. And poor Kirk Kirk Street, I mean,
he's too close to it and he's lost his mind.
Poor guy.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Get him another dog, by the way, does he one?
I think he's already got another.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
One that's out there now.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
He's got a few.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Petro Petros Pabe is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Like John Robinson, the late Robinson, when he said my
very first meeting at USC, right after they won the
Rose Bowl against Northwestern and Darnell Autry and Steve Schnerr.
And I thought that, Uh, I thought that USC was
going to be in the Rose Bowl every year. They
didn't make it back until exactly after I was gone.

(47:22):
The first meeting John Robinson ever had at SE came
in and he said, if you have a gun, leave
it at home.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Literally yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
And all the guys on the team are like okay.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Not figuratively sm but literally.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Right and uh And everybody was like okay, coach, okay.
And I was like, who's got a gun? I don't
know a gun. And I feel that way about Kirk
and his dogs.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Petro leave it at home. Speaking of Bowl games, obviously,
USC's got the Las Vegas Bowl.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Oh yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah against Texas A and M.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
But seeing the call, you wake up in Las Vegas
on Christmas morning covering a Vegas Bowl covered in chips
from a casino that you don't remember you were at
because I did.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Two thousand and one, Did you really yep?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
First year in the media. Two thousand and one USC
versus Utah in the Mountain West Utah. Kyle Whittingham was
on that staff as the defensive coordinator and USC lost
to Utah like nine to six. Carson Palmer got his
ankle blew up, and you just.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Went out and got slaughtered. Was this before or after
the game?

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I was before and after?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Okay, just kind of working the radio, brother, because I
was wondering.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Vegas Bowl is pretty depressing, But now they play in
an Allegian and it's not as depressive.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Does the playoff and just the twelve team playoff make
you care less about some of these other Bowl games?
Like they've kind of, you know, not not all that interested.
Are you still just because true You're still going to
watch as.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Much as you can.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Oh, I watch all the stupid Bowl games because those
are all the stupid teams that I see throughout the
stupid last year, So we'll be in great shape. No,
I enjoy the chaos of the sport. I enjoy guys
that hadn't been playing all year because everybody transferred having
to play to see I mean, remember, USC had such

(49:23):
a terrible year last year, maybe one of the most
disappointing in their history because Caleb Williams was a quarterback
and they got so little out of it, and they
ended up playing in the Holiday Bowl, which is Fox's
only bowl game, so it becomes a huge ball washing
for whoever is playing in it. And Miller Moss went

(49:43):
out there and performed pretty well against Louisville squad and
that kind of brought momentum right where they were, like,
Miller Moss is the next thing, and he's going to
keep anybody from transferring here and not. And then two
months into the season, they've bench hammed because they're terrible.
Even his fall, throwing the ball thirty times a half

(50:03):
old Lincoln Riley, he really knows how to win at SC.
So I'll watch it. Sure, what is happening in the
SC there have got a lot of guys in the
transfer portal. Yeah, a lot of guys on offense.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I mean, that's what doesn't make sense to me, is
why are guys on offense like this is supposed to
be a place where you want to go, Like you know,
quarterbacks one Heisman's with Lincoln.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
That's what doesn't make sense. Yeah, you tell me, I mean,
I'm asking you. I mean I don't know why if
you have an offensive guru as a coach and he
doesn't come out of his house to recruit the area,
and they have taken steps back every single year that
he's been at SC, they keep getting worse. I mean,

(50:57):
everything about USC is a red flag. Honestly, if we're
really going to.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Be that way about it, those are the ones that
had to keep their guns at home though, right.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Well that was that was in ninety That was back
when we could get different, a different brand of player.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Oh okay, oh we recruited l A.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I see a red sash. I kill the man. I'm not,
you know, I don't know how they can get out
from under this because no one is going to the
Lincoln Riley paycheck to get him to leave is ninety
million dollars. And the reason that Lincoln Riley is worse

(51:39):
than Clay Helton is because he's literally one hundred million
dollar coach and and he's performing even worse than the
guy that you fired and took the job at Georgia
Southern Heil Southern Stitsborough. And by the way, Clay Helton
and USC non conference next year, let's go in September,

(52:00):
so he'll be coming back to the coliseum. The point
is he's a hundred million Riley's one hundred million dollar
coach who can't keep his staff together every year, whether
they just leave or he fires them or has to
fire him. They're not recruiting the area in LA, which
is the only thing that makes USC football dominant. I mean,

(52:22):
you're a USC football. You don't have to go and
get half your team from Texas or Florida. You pick
and choose the guys from Texas and Florida. But Lincoln
doesn't seem to know how to build those avenues here
in southern California. He doesn't understand the tradition of the school.
He doesn't leave his office, he doesn't leave his house.

(52:45):
He's an offensive guru whose whole offense is left, and
he's got one of those little tiny playcards he stares at.
So you tell me, I don't what do you think
he's on that play card I'm getting. I don't care
what anybody he thinks. I'm getting ten million dollars a
year to ruin this, and I'm gonna lock myself in
my house and live in Palasburny's estate.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Hey, speaking of heaven, he's the one movie where Rodney
Dangerfield is looking in the mirror and he's like, I'll
think of the line.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Go ahead, look, I'll come back to heaving beef while
we're on it. I haven't heard you mentioned Matthew Stafford's
wife all year long? Have you guys buried the hatchet?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Like?

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Is everything all smoothed out and good to go?

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Now?

Speaker 6 (53:32):
No?

Speaker 4 (53:33):
No, no, I still think she's probably the worst thing
about him. I mean, he's a great player, right, and
he's shown great longevity, but I think she's What was
the last thing she said that got my attention? She
said she felt bad for Joe Burrow because it reminds
her of what it was like from matt in Detroit,

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where they paid you a bunch of money. Did you
when you want to be traded, and maybe you're just
butt hurt that they like Jared goff More and that
he's had a bunch of success there and you can't
handle that, and you go to a game there and
make a bunch of stuff up and get Chrisa to
corroborate it.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
They she's awful, all right, So the hatch isn't buried.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I also watch, Speaking of that, I watched Holiday Touchdown
the Chiefs Hallmark movie.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Oh really, yeah, any good, terrible, but it's got uh, it's.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Got Trent Green. Yeah, it's he's in there and a
cameo Katrick Mahomes a cat dressed up like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Good stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Let's go Hallmark and adult films. They always have happy endings.
You know, it's always the same thing there, Petros, So
look forward to I did remember the.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Big watch its shady Spa. It's it's Lady Bugs with
I'm wonderful. Everybody likes me. He's got on that little
car and oh, Stuart Smalley, you're good enough, you're smart enough.
And gosh darn it, look at this front yard.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Looks like the trees threw up.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
People like me. Tragic story with that Ladybugs movie.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Hey, Petro, what's the story on that?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
They're the guy in it? Who? What's the story? I
believe he took his own line. Oh really really happy holiday.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Yeah, I had a lighter question and ware our zebra
is black or white? Petros, because you be having weird
ass knowledge about the black They are black with white stripes, right,
you're sure?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I don't know. If you see a guy who's half black,
do you be like, that's a white dude?

Speaker 5 (55:51):
No, you say he's black because Bob, Yeah, because he's
it's Bob Marley's white. I mean that sound logic, but like,
so you're saying that they're white stripes.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I don't know. I mean, think about it like this.
Bob Marley's son, Damian Junior Gong Marley, his mom is white.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
His mom is white, way more white.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Miss Universe was his mom, Cindy Breakspear, Jamaican woman, but
but white. And Bob Marley's half white. So Junior Gong
is like my kids with a Greek name, and he's
a quarter Greek or you know, black in this.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
Case, but he's black rock. But he's in jam Rock
as a black man. I guess he's.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
That guy Junior Gong. Yeah, me named Junior Gong me
youngest ventam.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
He does a big very cruise cruise, does a cruise,
the jam Rock Cruise.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Everybody wants to be on that cruise.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
That's a lot of good music, just the backstory of
you and and like reggae culture, Petress is pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Well, thank you I have. I've been watching a lot
of Kojack.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Oh people don't know. People are way too young to
catch that reference.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Kojack is a Telly's famous. He's a very famous Greek
actor and in the seventies he was like the number
one television star like Clooney was in the e R.
But he was you know Kojack, which was like a
police lieutenant in New York and went around kicking ass.
And he's the guy that said, you know who loves

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your baby.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
That's the saying, hey, slow down, Kojack. You know that
was a big saying for a long time. What was
like their nineties, eighties, eighties, ninety Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
I've been watching a lot of Merry Christmas, a lot
of Kojack.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
He Happy holidays to you, yeah, man, enjoy the holidays.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Is the lizard? Okay, how's the lizard looking right?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
At me all right, bar the other day, how much.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Bigger has she gotten since the first time we talked
about her? Much much bigger, much bigger?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Nice, all right, the.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Love your throwaway comments are fantastic.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
And you got the lizard at a Christmas party, so
it's like it's birthday.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
About two three years ago.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Happy happy birthday, mama. Yeah, I learned that you can.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
They can drink too much and throw up if they do.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Oh wow, okay, so they're just like us.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Well I try, Yeah, I try to keep her hydrated,
but she can drink too much and then she'll bark.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Interesting all right, welly uh pee again.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
We appreciate all your efforts throughout the year. Happy holidays
to you and the fam.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
And remember, guys, you remember when it comes to the
college football playoffs, there's a great Jamaican saying teeth. Never
want physic teeth with long bob. Yeah, tef never wants
to see another thief. Yeah doing well. You hear that
her chief never wants to see a thief with a
long bag.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
But they would have thought you were just saying teeth.
So it's good that you brought it back into the
realm of.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Well there's old mister Jims that used to be in
the Forum, the Forum program at the back in the
day at the Laker games, Mister Jim's barbecue which says
you need no teeth to eat our beef.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Hmm.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
It's interesting.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
You know, ever since you've been coming on the show,
Jonas has felt as though he can try and do
a Jamaican accent. And it's much like what we were
talking about with quarterbacks and Jaydon Daniels situation. It's like,
why can't we bring in a coach and bring in
a quarterback and a quarterback and the coach do well
like they're doing in Washington, d C. It's because, well,
you thought you could do a Jamaican accent until you

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tried to do a Jamaican accent.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
Then you realize you just can't do it. You can't accent.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Oh, Betriss, Bobadiga's mine. Wow, I got your Steven Sagall
right here. You literally would be shot outside.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
You know what's funny, Petros, You know what I was
about to say, What do you think he would do
if he was in nine Mile or or what do
you think he would do if he was in Kingston
and say it again. You're he's in Kingston, he said,
is Kirk kurb Street? Does your respect mine?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Buckwood boy? Kirk a r P.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Happy holidays to you and the family there. He is
the old P because of the funny show that you
can hear on the blow torch.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yes, l A.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
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