February 27, 2025 • 56 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, reporters get into donnybrook at the Combine over Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford. Abdul Carter faces tough decisions with his foot injury. NFL Insider Albert Breer joins the guys live from the NFL Combine in Indy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Aarings, Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So let's just go ahead and break this day. Break
it down, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So there was a report from Jordan Schultz, a Fox
who said that Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford recently got
together in Montana and that Tom Brady hosted him at
his home. There, they spent time together, they went skiing.
Brady has been trying to convince him to join the Raiders,
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with discussions ongoing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Called it an unplanned meeting and that they sort of
ran into each other and they were on co hosting or.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Recruiting Montana at his home. Yeah, just sort of just
you know, totally just happened. Matthew Stafford just happened to
be rolling through Montana. Yeah, got to Tom Brady's home.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Random, and so I have that happen a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I just randomly, like Rand in the q's crib the
other day, you know, just stop by, say hey to
the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're in the neighborhood. Yeah, it makes all the sense
in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Jordan, Jordan Schultz followed up with this on Twitter and said,
if you really think or excuse me x. He followed
up on X and said, if you really think Tom
Brady and Matthew Stafford just happened to run into each
other at a ski resort in Montana, of all places,
at the exact same time. I've got a bridge to
sell you. They were together over the weekend. It happened.
Multiple teams are interested in Stafford, and Brady has been
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leading the charge to get him to the Raiders if
the Rams decide to trade him. So there was another
corresponding report from Tom Pellasero, who reported that he spoke
with Don Yee, Brady's agent, and Yee said the following,
I know that reporters sometimes make mistakes in their haste,
but this story's inaccurate. Ian Rappaport took, well, yeah, I mean, like,
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of course he's not actually free, and so Ian Rappaport
followed up and just said, you know, Tom Brady and
Matthew Stafford, like most celebrities, also have homes in Montana,
et cetera kind of a snarky response.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, apparently, Jordan Schultz, most celebrities have homes in Montana.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Jordan Schultz was not was not thrilled with what had happened,
and at a Starbucks at the JW. Marriott in Indianapolis,
Schultz accosted Rapaport, what.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Does that mean? To what degree does that that mean?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Which, by the way, I mean, if you've ever seen
me in Rappavoy, he's not as little guy.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's little. One of the.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
First times I ever saw Ian it was at the Combine.
He was crouched down, like hunched down into a ball
behind one of the stages and on the phone with someone.
It was just a very awe cord thing to see because.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I was like, what it looks like it is he
hiding from someone? Like what is he doing? Was his
phone plugged in? He had a short charger, and you.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Know, he was just he was just chose to kind
of sit down like that, crouched down behind the stage.
Is years ago, and I thought to myself, like, he
always seems small.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He looked really small at that moment.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
He's a dude, and and Jordan is the biggest dude,
but he's much bigger than I, And so I could
imagine this conversation going on between the two and obviously
if anyone's been in Indianapolis for the combine, they've probably
been by the J. W.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Marriott.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I've stayed there a number of times for different events
and things. I'm just picturing this this altercation. How did
they describe the interaction?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And he had cost him accosted him.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So this, according to Mike Florio, Uh, you know who
did a deep dive on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Was the worst.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Rappaport was talking to an agent Jordan. Schultz approached him
and said, we need to talk. Rapaport replied, we're told quote,
we don't need to talk. Schultz then made accusations about
rap Report. Rap Report, we're told regards the accusations as unfounded.
The two men were essentially face to face, according to
this report from Florio, Jordan Schultz said, if you have
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anything to say it to me, say it to my
effing face. If this continues, we're going to have an
effing problem. Rap Report asked Schultz to step back. Schultz responded,
if this happens again, we're going to have an effing problem,
or words sort of like that. Now, I'll step back.
The incident was reported to NFL Security, and NFL Security
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has taken statements from multiple witnesses. Rapaport declined to comment
on it, and Schultz said that in response to Mike
Florio that it lasted a little over a minute. It
really isn't anything too much. Ian Rappaport had and I
had a verbal altercation. Multiple agents and reporters were nearby.
Rapaport was the one who called security shortly after, but
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never escalated anything further than that. So, all of that
being said, conflicting reports, it's the combine in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
There's maybe some people that are hung over there or
you know, bend in the elbow a.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Little bit presently speaking, And we nearly had a Donnybrook
between NFL reporters, one of them being Jordan Schultz of
Fox and Ian Rapp Beford of the NFL Network, all
over whether or not Tom Brady hosted Matthew Stafford for
a ski trip in Montana.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I had one question, Yeah, let's go, let's go. Who
do you guys think would have won? Oh Schultz, Oh
Schultz by a mile.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Yeah, throwing Mike Florio, throwing Dan Wolk and anyone on
that Jack like, they would all get absolutely tossed around.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The Schultz. Yeah, I'll take I'll take Schultz heavy.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Fa It'll have been like Lee fighting Walt also would
have been tossed around.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Who would have got tossed around Lee? Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
What would kicks? And by the way, would it is
built different if.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He had a super kitchen in the back of his car.
A bit of a.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Home game for Jordan Schultz because his dad was a
former CEO, the CEO of Starbucks, so the fast Press
went down to the Starbucks. He knew his surroundings, so
there's no way Rappingport would have had a chance there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Wow, I never met a home field advantage if you will.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, I never met him, but you guys are you
guys are certain that he would whoop him?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah? Positive, no offense seeing Rapping for it. I've never
met him. He wouldn't. He would take up on you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He wouldn't like surprise you be like, dang, I ain't
know Ian had that any You know, sometimes guys that's small,
there's a lot of fight in them and you just
didn't know about it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They normally don't call security.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I mean, he could have been doing him a favor
and saving him from the ass whipping that he was
going to dish.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Out.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
You know, sometimes people are trying to be considerate about
other people's safety when you're messing with him. You know,
he could be that dang could be that dangerous. You know,
I'm gonna go with no, You're gonna go with No.
Is a very docile person. But I would just be
feeling like people like that are crazy man, like they
got a crazy side to him.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I just I just love that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
This is Uh, this is what sparked off a near
throwdown between reporters was whether or not Tom Brady hosted
Matthew staff Why would Jordan Schultz make that up?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, first off, Jordan Schultz wouldn't make it up.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
And Ian Rapaport, I think with the with the way
he's reporting what he's.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Reporting, he's probably trying to in a way.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I don't want to speak for him and what he's doing,
but this is this is what I'm guessing. Okay, what
took place between Matthew Stafford and Tom Brady is something
that is probably not the last time it's gonna gonna
happen between Tom Brady and a potent prospect that they're
looking at.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Signing trading for.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Whatever scenario you want, you want to paint because Tom
Brady has the power to do that, right, he's a
minority owner, but they're they're empowering him to be a
part of this process. He's in a very public position
at Fox, so he's got continual relationships and conversations with
a lot of the people that he's calling games with.
So even though he's not in production meetings, he could
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still talk to all these guys on his you know,
outside of that one on one on his phone, in
person at his home.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, So it's easy to think that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
And by the way, there is a number of people
who happen to live out in that area, and if
they're all out there, there's gonna be times when they
run into each other, whether it's planned or unplanned, or
it could be unplanned and then it turns into something
that's being planned them maybe. But then all I think
there's some other curious I meaneyne do you go to.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm being funny because I would love to live in Montana?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Or you got the big belt buckle.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I went out when I went out on Friday, I
went out with my my cowboy hat, my boots on
and buckle.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah I did. Yeah, you attended a funeral with the
cowboy I did.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That wasn't a cowboy hat hat. That was just a
big hat.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Look like spotted spotted Alasso too.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Anyway, to get back to the point there is I
think Ian Rappitport is trying to protect the position now
that the NFL is in with Tom Brady being involved
with the Raiders in this capacity, and he may not
be the last, and so there may be other players
who get involved in some way or in some capacity
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like this, and they do have to protect you know,
I don't know if you want to call it an advantage,
but like how all this stuff could work out.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So that's where I definitely one let me ask you that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
And and there's really nothing like they can do about
that outside of trying to create more guardrails or rules
and stuff which it's impossible to be able to enforce.
It's it's no different when when the NFLPA is like
they either try to find out about tampering or collusion.
It's like they claim that all the time it's impossible
to prove. It's I should say almost impossible to prove.
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It's why it's never worked out. Every time there's there's
been an accusation of collusion or people of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All it's tampering. It's like, oh, okay, well, good luck
trying to prove that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Pro Bowl was for that. Uh let me let me
ask you. Do you feel like the big presence of
Tom Brady is going to continue to command this type
of attention. People are going to pay attention to everything
tom Brady is doing. Does this become more of an
issue for Mark Davis? Like does this get to a
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point of where Mark Davis is like, man, you got
our block all the way hot, Like things that you
would get away with, maybe they're not going to get
away with, like just normal things you might not get
away with because of how big Tom Brady is. I mean,
for every positive that you have, is there the possibility
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that there could be a negative connected to the fact
that Tom Brady is who he is. It sounds like
this could be a prime example of.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That meaning meaning that the attention it brings and you
can't be.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And that could bring you know, if if Brady didn't
know a rule or something that may have you know,
taken place like it could cost the it could cost
the organization, right, it could cost a franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
If this is considered.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
If this comes back that it's considered tampering, don't you
think that there is going to be action taken against
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't know how far. Again it's tampering, it's tampering. Yeah,
But if you conclude that he was a part of tampering,
how do you not how do you not discipline the franchise?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean you could discipline them. Whatever they're going to
discipline them is going to be, what you know, a
couple hundred grands and a draft pick. But if you
land Matthew Stafford, it was worth.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It, probably, But again, how are you going to how
are you going to prove it? How are you going
to prove him? I don't know. And that's the hard
part is.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Because a headache like having does that for sure a
deal that you have to you have to deal with
what comes with having Tom Brady be a part of
what you're doing too.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
One hundred percent. I don't even know if it's not
a bad thing. It helps out I'm certain that it does.
But but that's what they're pointing out why Ian might
be putting out a report where he's trying to kind
of protect what is the integrity or the perceived integrity
of the league that's now adopted Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As a minority owner.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So so he's gonna for example, and even then like
even you know, Don Yee kind of coming out making
a statement kind of throws a little bit of throws
some back at Jordan Schultz, who's just saying, look, this
is how this stuff works. I'm giving you a peek
behind the curtain, and everyone else out around him is like, no,
that's not exactly what was happening. It's like, well, yeah,
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the reason like like here's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Jordan Schultz is newer to this space.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Is it fair to say that, Yeah, yeah, okay, I
think these guys are trying to say, like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Pred hey, many this is like this is kind of
how it works.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Though, Like you might know everything, you don't need to
say everything. You need to understand how these things work
so you can craft things that you give the report
that you need without giving away how exactly this yeah
or not even that, just like you're gonna be damaging
what happens all the time in the league. So if
you report this every single time, it's gonna be a problem,
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Like you're gonna be the problem, not the rest of
us who are a part of this, because he did.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Exactly yeah, and it's also he you know, he might
be had he pulled him aside and been like, hey,
just so you know, like you're also affiliated with Fox,
so's Tom Brady like you're kind of yet it's one
hundred percent accurate, but let's play this the way it
should be played.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know, we've been in this game a little bit longer.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's a fact that he took kind of a snarky
approach and a dismissive approach on social media, and Jordan
Schultz is like, Okay, that guy's getting a Venti Latti
whatever he's getting from Starbucks. Let me go ahead and
dust him up a little bit and he'll call security.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
So it's just can I actually say, I know we've
got to take a break because we're up against it,
But I do think it's it's fair that we come
back and try to put a cap on some of
this conversation, just in regards to the courting process, because
I do think it's interesting if the whole skiing between
Tom Brady and that Stafford and I'm just I'm picturing
at the top of like a mountain, you know, sitting
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there skiing down there together. I'm just I'm picturing of
all the ways that player have been courted over the years.
I mean, the Mike McCarthy sleep against Jerry Jones' house
is like right up there at the top for me.
We've got to discuss some of the different ways these
guys have been courted over the years before we put
a cap on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's a hell of a plan. It is two pros
and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we were discussing the big story
in the world of football, which was Tom Brady and
Matthew Stafford reportedly skiing together in Montana, according to Jordan
Schultz of Fox that was disputed by Ian Rappaport and
Tom Pellisero the NFL network. Schult saw Rapaport at the
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Starbucks and decided to approach him, and fisticuffs nearly ensued.
And so we are now going to break down the
courting process as to what you were willing to do
to try and get your guy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Because apparently Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford to go skiing
together min Tanna to make it happen. Yeah, I just
I got so many questions, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
For example, you know, it was reported that Matt Stafford
was was kind of courted out there to go skiing
with Tom and that's how this whole discussion started. It
was then refuted that that was not the case. Matt
Stafford has a place out there, which he's made a
ton of money, so it's not that hard to believe
that he's got multiple places and they happened to maybe
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own a place in the same place, you know. I like,
just so people understand, Like Sam Bradford, Jeff Fish, I
think they both own a place near each.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Other in like a Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
So it's it's not uncommon for a bunch of NFL
guys and coaches and different people to kind of all
have a place in similar areas because they like to
hang out and they're like minded, et cetera. So anyway,
I'm just picturing like the phone call if if Stafford's like, hey, man,
like bring your bring your ski boots and bring bring
your gear, or it was like Tom Brady providing him,
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like you can borrow mine or how did it all
ensue and work out? Like that's what I'm I'm really
curious to figure out. Or maybe you know, just again,
Matthew Stafford, who's you know, still playing, is doing something that,
by the way, is most likely written that in his
contract he can't do. Like if Matt Stafford got hurt
skiing or snowboarding, most likely his guarantees would be voided
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in his contract because that's like one of those no
note things you can do when you're a player. So
I just got a lot of questions around it, And
like I said, the one that always sticks out to
me is Mike McCarthy's sleeping over at Jerry Jones and
just think about the pillow talk they had. And I'm
just sure there's other examples we can think of too,
but this one's got to be right up there.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Didn't you guys get courted at any point during your careers?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Not?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
What was a draft tick? Maybe that was about it. No, No,
never went to anybody's house, Lil Danny, didn't take you
on the yacht. No, never, that's different. He's already there.
It's not you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Courted when you're a free agent, or in this case,
he's allowed to seek a trade, so he's not even
a free agent, but he's allowed to It's entirely different,
you know. That's that's more of like the you know,
the wanting, you doning you that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I did get courted.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Actually, I saw a Picket in his room when I
was getting courted by Green Bay. That was my first
impression was they were putting me up in a room
when I was visiting, and I was there at the
same time as the big lineman Picket. That's his name, right,
I don't know big linman for green Bay Lee Lee.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Who's the big lineman for Well, Kenny Pickett was the
quarter was too young?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, no, this was a big lineman for for He
became a free agent and went to green Bay. Picket
I believe is his last name.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well Kenny Pickett was drafted. Was he drafted by him?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, Pickett, Ryan Pickett tackle he was picket right, Ryan Pickett.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, he was in there. He had Thank you he
had Ryan Was it Ryan Pickett?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I think?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So he had us good job. It's Ryan Pickett. He
was Ryan Pickett and he had multiple trays of of
Ryan Pickett. Ryan Pickett. How much did he waited Lee,
Ryan Pickett? Oh, we don't need to shame the guy
in the air. No, it's not shaming.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
He's just a pretty He waited three forty had multiple trays.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't know, don't.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I got my eyes up really quickly because he was
like sitting there almost like in his natural And me
and my wife walked in with one of the people
that works with Green Bay, and he was.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Like, oh, oh man, oh man. And I was like.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Sorry, bro, and we backed out of the room slowly,
like real slow.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So the packers courted you with trays of food. Well,
he had trays of food.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Trays room Brady's got a ski trip planned. The packers
got a buffet.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It wasn't it was a buffet on his his hotel table.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Do you want to really go down a warble right
now about Ryan Pickett?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
He's he's from is it pronounced zephyrillis Frillis Hills or
zephyrillis how you pronounce it, don't you know? The water
like the bottled water that's where he's from in Florida.
Huh yeah, No, kidding, like most famous for bottled.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Water at Water. Yeah. Oh that's awesome. Hell, there you go,
I know that. Well, I'll just say this.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm just looking at this year's depth chart for the Raiders.
I'm just curious, does does he make this team better?
Does he make this this Raiders team better? Or is
that Stafford? Is it the start of a gutting process
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or does he contribute or does he come in and
make the team that they currently have better than what
they were?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I don't think there's any doubt he makes it better.
I mean, they'll be better at quarterback play, so I
think that alone gives them a better chance.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So you guys trust Jakobe Myers and Trey Tucker. I mean,
DJ turned that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
They've got a draft and add some free agents. So
remember they've got a ton of cap space. Yeah, a
ton of cap space.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Maybe h Cooper Cup could be on the table as
well too, a little regunion there and joins him.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
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Speaker 2 (21:55):
All right, so is this bad news?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Because Adam Shefter reported this last night. Uh, I guess
he was not in a dust up at the combine
on like some other reporters. But Adam Schefter reported that
Abdull Carter has a stress reaction in his right foot.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
UH.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Test revealed that on Wednesday, and that the Penn State
standout will need to decide soon whether to have surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
According to his agent, Drew Rojas, d.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Thinking I got cross is that the laws.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
No, they're not named Drew, They're named Diego. Yeah you know,
na Diego, don't That's how the laws pronounced it. I
know what, I know what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Dog?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
According to h Drew Rohaus, rosenhas the our mixed opinions
on whether he needs dream. We will figure that out
in the near future.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I like that anyway, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
He says that Carter has two options here. He could
have preemptive surgery, have a screw inserted in his right foot,
and return to working out and running in about eight weeks,
or he could bypass the surgery. Conduct his PROTA at
Penn State on March twenty eighth and prove to NFL
teams that he doesn't need a procedure. So, mister Errington,
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what do we know?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I know what you know? I know what you know.
I mean, had I known that, I would have said something.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Was interesting though, when I was watching him walk around,
I did notice.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Little limp, a little limp, a little hitch, a little hitch.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Now, how do you differentiate kind of having that riz,
kind of having that like little swagger?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
How do you.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Differentiate you know what I'm saying, like, how do you
differentiate the swag from having Actually he.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Was still swagged out, he was still walking with a
little swag, but it was almost like he was walking
like me.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I've seen some like old school cats, they have so
much swag when they walk it looks like they've got
like a back problem or something wrong the wag. But
that's just that's just well, your's just more of like
a shuffle. I really do have a back problem.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, you and you've got legitimate issues. But like I'll
ask them about you, is everything all right? They're like, yeah, man,
it's how I walk. I was like, oh, okay, you keep.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Walking on You're right though you're some guys do be
having that Listen. I'm not going to make too big
of a deal about it. I mean, obviously he if
you're being projected as the number one overall pick in
and some people's on some people's boards, then you're going
to garner a lot of attention. And if something like
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this becomes common knowledge, I'm curious, did he even know?
You know, I don't know that he knew that they
might have discovered that doing doing the during the medical
you know, the medical procedures that that take place where
they go over your body. And because I almost feel
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like it would have been better, and this is a
misstep if I'm the agent, I think it would have
been better if you you allow people to know that
you know, I'm letting my foot heel, He'll up and
I'll be ready to go for the pro day and
and and just put it out there like I thought
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it was his shoulder the reason why he wasn't, you know, participating,
But it makes more sense if you're saying that you're
you have an injury on your foot that just needs
time to heal.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Maybe this was the hood Dame injury that we thought
they were referring to the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Which maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
There's also the reality that they'll discover injuries at the combine.
Like again, we we always try to go back explain
to people the origin or the reason for the combine
is for.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The medicals first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
That's always what the rationale was for why they needed
some event like this.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And obviously it's grown, as you heard Pete kind of talk.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
About all the different people that are around it, not
just like the agents. It's like the insurance agents, guys
trying to sell you insurance. There's chiropractic conventions, there's like
trainer conventions, there's strength training conventions. There's different products from
like angle tone to shoulder braces and so forth. I mean,
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it is all going on at this time of the
year at the Combine. Like I really had no clue,
and so I'd gone there for a series of years
and you just walk around different hotels and different conference
rooms and you see, like what's going on. You're like,
holy cow, like it is it? Look, the super Bowl
is the super Bowl. It's kind of in a separate
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event as far as all the other already that work
with NFL players and around NFL teams. I would actually
argue that Combine has more people there for that specific
stuff than at the super Bowl because the super Bowl's
more of again, it's it's different partners and you know,
corporate partners, et cetera. It's just a little different. But
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the combine's right up there. I mean, it is a
huge event for the NFL. But what a lot of
people don't understand is there's times where players discover injuries.
Like they'll go in there and they'll do different tests,
and they'll do you know, MRIs and all kinds of stuff,
and you'll walk out of there with like an executive
physical like you've never had before in your life. And
they'll be like, yeah, you've got an issue on your
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left shoulder here, You've got actually an issue in this
knee here. And you know, you'll sit there and be like,
I had no idea. They're like, yeah, you'll probably need
to get get that cleaned up at some point. I mean,
it is one of the craziest things when you have
thirty two different medical staffs take a look at your body.
I mean, never ever the rest of your life, well
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you have that thorough of a process and examination of
your body to determine.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What's wrong with it?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now, how would this be missed by Penn State or
not that it? I mean, I don't know, not to
air them out or anything, but how would this be?
How would they not He's a tough kid.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
He might have played through it not really known.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I mean, you're not trying to go get looked at
all the time or miss time, you know. So it's
not that uncommon that you have an injury that sometimes
goes unnoticed. I mean there's oftentimes it's more of like
the hard issues things like that that we that we
find players discovered. But this, this sort of this sort
of thing happens too.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Wasn't that the same thing with Trey Smith, who's going
to be the free agent in Kansas City? That's why
he dropped in the draft? Was there was some stuff
going on? That's why he dropped in the draft too?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, he was projected to be a much higher draft
pick and then he went in like the was it
the fourth round later something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But you said that as if he's dropping because of this, No,
he did drop.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Okay, he's going to be a free agent.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I think think the different with he had blood clots
and his lungs or something like that, or a history
of blood clots that was more of a concern, so
a little different.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But yeah, if they did discover it at the combine,
I mean you're talking about that's not that type of
injury you're dealing with. That's just not a probably the
most easy, easily detected injury, you know. I just don't
see how and you could feel something like I've I've
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had listen when you're when you're a football player, you
some guys have crazy, crazy high paying thresholds, and what
what you would think is excruciating in your situation is
really just nagging or uncomfortable. So I don't I don't
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know if he knew of it. I don't know if
they discovered it. I don't know. I don't know that
details on it. I just know that an injury like
an irritated foot, like because that's what it sounds like.
Like his foot's irritated, right you put pressure on it,
It's sore, you know. I don't know to what degree
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or or what capacity that is. But I mean, if
you're saying that he gets a surgery now and he's
eight weeks removed from what he needs to do, or
you just allow it to heal on its own. You
give it time, and then you'll you'll be back at
regular speed.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I just I don't see this being that big of
a deal. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
It's like an affect his draft status one way or another. Yeah,
I don't think so, And honestly I would. I would
tell him this, if you need the surgery, go get it.
Like we've talked about before, the reasoning why guys wouldn't
potentially participate at the Combine. Some could be medical related
like this. Others are just like, yeah, there's no point.
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This isn't really conducive for me to succeed. This is
also a team that played into January, and so we're
talking about a month later, where even if he did
come out unblemished, it might be hard for him to
prepare himself to test the way he'd like to test
and prove himself. Like the hard part for a lot
of these guys is if you go out and run
a forty at the combine and it doesn't go well,
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you know what happens. That's what gets posted Like you're
gonna go run it again on your protege, try to
improve but the story's already.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Out, like, hey's slow.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
He didn't run a four four. We thought he's gonna
run a four four. And so that's that's the hard
part about all this. As the college football season has
extended for a lot of these guys, they don't have
a lot of time to prepare themselves for what has
become like kind of a track and field event. Now
that's not necessarily specifically the case here, but what i'd
say to him is, this is going to be the
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longest year of your life, So go get surgery now, like,
get yourself prepared to play in September, and not worry
about out all this stuff because your film is ultimately
what you're gonna get drafted on, and so maybe some
of the interviews, etc.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So if you do need surgery, go get it.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Get it over with so you can get back healthy, rehab,
prepare yourself for your rookie NFL season, because it's gonna
feel like a long time. Like you don't want this
to be nagging you as you go into your rookie
season and then you have to miss time later on
because you should have gotten surgery and you didn't. So
I would say, get the surgery man, like, go get
this cleaned up, Go get a fixed, Go find a
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way of getting into your rookie season feeling.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
As good as possible.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
If this is something that's nagging you now, it's only
gonna nag you more later because it doesn't stop. Once
you get drafted. You're going into OTA's mini camps all
that stuff. You have a little time off in the summertime,
but really you're training your body more than ever before
to prepare for training camp. And once you get into
training camp, it's the preseason. It's the start of the season,
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and it is a gauntlet for you as a player.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Just wonder how serious in nature it is, because sometimes,
I mean, it could be as simple a fix of
getting you know, orthotics. You know they put that little
steel plate underneath and take take the you know, the
scans of your foot and stuff like that, and they
take the pressure off of certain spot. I know, I'm
tremendously flat footed, tremendous Like I am as flat footed
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as flat footed gets. I could pop it.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You can. Jonas's flat he can pop it too.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
If you ain't got no arches in your feet, let
me see you pop it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Pop pop pop pop.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Anyway, they ended up getting me orthotics and it it
clearly improved my level of life, my quality of life.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Can I ask this though, because I also got orthotics
for a foot injury and I thought it actually made
my back orse.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you notice that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Because it forced you to take on a different posture,
and it's probably the posture that you should have had, Like,
it's probably the posture that you probably should have. I know,
for me, I'm a sloucher. I'm a slouch and and
when I had when I haven't had my orthotics. I
lost them when I moved out here. But and that's
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the worst. It's the worst thing that ever happened to me,
by the way. But get some new ones. It bro
like I would have to go through the whole process.
It's like a whole process. Like you step on this,
like this piece of glass, well the glass, and then
the class run. Yeah, they run the scan on it,
and then then you do the foam and then they
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get that and then they do the molds and it's
just this whole big thing. No, it doesn't take that long.
It's a tedious process. Yeah, that's all. But the point
point I'm making though, is it definitely there's the possibility
that this is not as as dire where you would
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need surgery, a surgical procedure. But I don't know, you know,
I don't, I don't know, and I don't want to
speak out a term on it. I agree, if if
it is something he does or should you know, get
that that that's screwing his foot, then he should do
it as soon. But in my mind, wouldn't you have
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done that already, like you had enough time to actually
do if you weren't going to do the combine and
then potentially if if it, if it keeps you from
doing the Pro Day, which I could, I can almost
guarantee you it's a lock. He's doing the Pro Day.
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He's going to do the Pro Day, knowing I do.
Not only is he going to do the Pro Day,
but he's going to try to outperform what Micah did
at his Pro Day. He's going to try to outperform.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
What's the recovery time on that surgery.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I said eight weeks. They said, like he could be
back out in eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So he's gonna do the calm, He's gonna do the
Pro Day while he's injured. Yeah, but again I mean
he played an entire season. Damn.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I mean, I I I'm thinking, I know, I know
what Q's is saying makes sense. But if it's me,
I'm doing my pro day before I do anything. I'm
doing my pro day. I'm gonna handle my pro day.
I'm gonna handle business on my pro day. I'm gonna
get through my pro day and then I'm gonna stand
on business. I'm I'm must I'm I'm one hundred percent
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sure he's going to stand on business ten toes down
and pop with pop it with a hurt tell. Yeah,
I just hope he doesn't pop it, but yeah, that
wouldn't be good. But I don't listen. I've seen him.
I've seen him working like he's He's not just sitting
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around like letting his foot heel.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
He's working out.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
So if this was that serious of an injury in nature,
which makes me it leads me to believe that he
didn't know that it was there. Like I'm a lean
on the side of I don't think he even knew,
let alone saying why didn't why didn't Penn State staff
pick up on this? Like, I don't think I don't
think he knew. I'm I'm just assuming, but I don't
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think he knew he had that going on in his foot,
and so now that they uncover that, I mean, it's
something that he's probably going to have to address if
he was unaware of it, But I would I would
assume it's business as usual for him until he gets
through the pro day.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, I mean, I didn't know that Brady was Mexican,
that you were white or as black, kind of crazy.
I learned that on social media and leads ten ten
deep at the ball.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I was trying to figure out, are you claiming to
be Mexican? Is that what that was? I thought they're
talking about me. They do call him.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Is horribly inappropriate at this point, Like I said, every
time she plays it too, it's like it's like, it's
horribly insensitive.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Lorena, Well go ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
I'll just say his, you know, pigments a lot lighter
than mine. Yeah, I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Saying I was. Guy wrote it and they do away?
Didn't they do away with Speedy? Yeah? They did do.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
A guy wrote in on Twitter. They canceled him for
people wondering what we're talking about. A guy wrote in
on Twitter and said a Mexican a black dude and
a white dude walking.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
To a bar. It's the start of a joke, right,
and started joke on Brady wrote I'm Mexican, LeVar Mark, Yeah,
and I wrote I'm white. Questions like, it's like you said,
Drew Rojas, there right, Maybe there you go. Maybe that's
the telltale sign that you you are. I'll take that.
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Pronounce his name one more time, Drew Rojas. Who knew,
who knew? Who knew?
Speaker 6 (39:06):
It's all right, you'll get an F on that, but
it's probably not as bad as an F minus.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh well played.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
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Speaker 3 (39:22):
Right now, we go live to Indianapolis Albert Breer, the
star of Amazon's NFL on Prime Coverage, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You can get him on x at Albert Breer and
a man who we demand answers from as to who
you got Schultz, Voric Rappaport and the Donny Brook at
a Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
What can you tell us about the situation there.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Breer, Well, I wasn't there, but I wish I was.
It was Uh, a lot of people were talking about
it last night. For sure it was. I don't think
it ever came to a point where we were going
to find out who was going to win. But I
will say this, I've had this conversation with a few
people over the last few months. At your age, what
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would it take for you to get into a fist fight?
Like I think. My answer is, I think my wife
or kids would have to be in danger for me
to get in this fight.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I agree, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, so it it would take a lot for me
at my age you do a fist fight. I mean,
you know, sometimes sometimes the temperature can get turned up
on things, and it seems like that's sort of what
happened yesterday. But again, much I worked, I was there,
I wasn't there to see it.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Help us understand then, why the temperatures get turned up
so much? Right, Like I know Schultz's report talking about
Tom Brady courting Matt Stafford, and then Ian Rappaport and
Tom Pelisara come out and say it's not.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Exactly how it went.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Why why does this thing get so heated, like what
are they trying to protect?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
What are they trying to prove?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I mean, I don't know it. You know, it sounded
to me like it was a keep my name out
of your mouth type of situation. Yeah, which again, like
I don't know what it would take for me to
use that line with somebody at my age, but I
think it would be a lot more than whatever's going
on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Do you think Jordan got more street credit from that?
You know? Is that what it's about? Getting more street cred?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Like? Do you think you think he gets more street
credits that you're saying?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I don't know. Maybe that's what I was going for,
you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
It's you know, maybe yeah, I mean maybe something here.
He's being real and hey, you are not under oath, Breer.
You could just come with it, bro, like you know,
I mean, what's your nervous?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I mean, I mean I wish there was more, There
was more to there was more to reveal here. I
don't think there's a lot to it. I think it's
it was. It was a confrontation, ironically enough at a Starbucks,
but your ouse, I think I think it was over
over relatively.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Quick when you say keep your name out of my mouth.
That's like those are fighting words, like what and what
context was keep my name out of your mouth used
in this scenario?
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Wow, you're really like LeVar turning the investigative reporter.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I'm just curious because I didn't know, you know, no.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
No, because I was the investigative reporter last night, because
I did you know, I wasn't there. So I did
talk to a lot of sources about what happened. I
would say, I would I would say that, like, this
thing might not have just been about this one thing.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, there you go. So this was a.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Build up, all right, there may have been some build
up to this and yeah, like so all right, I
that's sort of where we got where we got if
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, okay, that's more context though.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, there you go. Thank you now your responsible reporter here.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I mean, if you got reckless, we would just say
Mike Florio said it, not you, and that was to
save everybody involved it.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
So now I'm wondering on the report itself, was there
a meeting and how much do you buy that they
just happened to be in the same ski lodge at
the same time that happened to be owned by Tom
Brady while they were out there in Montana hitting the well.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
I mean, that is a very high end ski area
and it's I think you guys, you guys might be
familiar with it, but it's a very exclusive ski area
where a lot of celebrities have places. So I don't
think it's the most you know, like out of control
coincidence that two people on that level would see to
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see each other at that place. And I know Donnie,
tom Brady's agent, went on the record talking about it.
I mean, look, it's it's it's not really a secret
and hasn't been over the last week and half two
weeks that the Raiders are interested and have been interested
and have been digging into to in Matthew Stafford's availability.
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And you know, Brady's going to be a part of
these things now for the Raiders, and it's part of
you know, what he promised that Pete Carroll and to
John Spytech when you hired him was you know, you're
gonna have resources, and I'm not going to be there
day to day, but I'm gonna have a presence and
I'm gonna use my name to help the organization. You know,
clearly that's that's something he's tried to do in this situation,
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regardless of how the whole thing went down.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Is there a chance this could turn into Like I
asked the Fellas this earlier.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I know he's trying to help.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
But with the level of fame, popularity and clout that
that Tom Brady has, could this have a reverse effect
on what they're trying to get accomplished in in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Could have become a distraction? Could could have become a
headache for Mark Davis and in the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
If like stuff like this is happening, if there's like
I don't know, if if Brady is like hovering over
things during the season and things aren't going well, I
mean maybe, I guess. I don't think it can be
a negative now though. I mean I think you know,
when you're talking about Courton free agents or courting guys
that you might trade for, or Brady being a resource
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and how you evaluate quarterbacks, I think it's I think
it's a plus for the Raiders. And the part of
it is, you know, Tom does have relationships with these guys.
He obviously competed against Teke Carroll for a long time,
and John Spytech is somebody he got pretty close to,
you know, in three years the two spent together in Tampa.
So you know, I think, you know, it's as long
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as it's not happening like you know, in the middle
of the season, when when things are going the wrong
way or whatever. I don't I don't really see how
how will be anything.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
But a positive Albert help us with maybe something that
you're hearing there at the combine, whether it's a pending
trade coming up or a potential destination for a star quarterback.
What are some of the things you're hearing there in
in Indy?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well, I mean, certainly Brady, the the Stafford situation. It's
the big domino in the quarterback market. So you know
what happens after that, Well, you know, like if if
the Stafford winds up going to say the Giants, then
maybe that opens up things for for for Aaron Rodgers
potentially to go to the Rams. I'd expect Jimmy Garoppo
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to be in the mix there too. I think things
with Justin Fields are a little uncertain. Could he wind
up someplace like the Jets, or you know, does he
go back to Pittsburgh. I don't know he would go.
I don't know if he went back there, if he
would be the no doubt about it started. But if
you like to keep working with him, and then Sam
Donald's name is an interesting one, you know, is that
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a tag? Is that a tag? And trade? We know
where are they at with J. J. McCarthy. If if
it's not Donald coming back to start rewind up somewhere
like Vegas, and Vegas doesn't get Stafford. And if he's
not there, who is the Viking's insurance policy against JJ McCarthy,
uh coming back off the knee as a Daniel Jones.
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So there's I think, you know, like this game of
musical chairs that will start at the quarterback position once
we get closure on the Matthew Stafford situation, you know.
And then other than that, look, I would say, like
there just aren't a ton of big game free agents.
It's it's hard to look at the free agent class
and really pluck out guys who you can look at
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and say, yeah, if you sign this guy, you're gonna
you're gonna have you know, a core player for yourself
for the next four or five years. I mean, if
T Higgins doesn't make it to the market and think
they're still a little up in the air. You know,
we're we're we're we're looking at you know, an environment
where it's you know a lot of guys who either
have been hurt or are older. You know, it's just
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I think the reality of what the salary cap is
in twenty twenty five, it's gone up so much that
for the most part, if you're if if you've got
a core player who's in the prime of his career,
you want to keep him, you're going to have the
resources to do it.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He is live in Indianapolis at the Combine, at the
stage where we were waiting to see whether or not
Jordan schultzenean rap before will actually turn it down or
just talk this time.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Are you guys looking for me to instigate this a little? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well, I mean, how common is agitated? Because I have
this is two separate questions. But since we're on the
topic again, is this the first time you've seen two
insiders or reporters almost come to blows at the Combine?
Speaker 5 (48:47):
No, No, I have seen I have seen a couple
of things in the past who was.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Talking about Glazer? Come on, say it was a Glazer?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
Do you know about that one?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, really, I just think you might about some some.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
On you you know, No, I mean I love jay. No.
There have been a couple of combine.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Where you heard about that one it was.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
There have been a couple of the combine where you know,
it gets late at night and someone sees somebody else
who you know they have been tweaking them and uh yeah,
I mean things can get a little ugly. It's a
you know, the streets of the streets of scoop Down
can get pretty nasty.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yet a fair enough.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Abe can I can I ask you did they find
out about Abdul's foot there or did they come in
that did Abdul and his team come in and that
was you know, kind of made known during the medicals
or how how did that all come about? Because that
is just now kind of like seeming breaking news.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
I have to dig a little bit more into that.
I don't have the ins and outs of it. LeVar Okay,
that's that's something that's not that's something that's not uncommon
that you know, like they would and you guys know,
you guys went through this, but the medical evaluation, a
lot of times they will on earth things and they'll
find stuff. We've we've we've we've seen the case of
guys having a shoulder injury or a heart condition that
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when they when the guys go through the battery of test,
that stuff gets gets figured out. You know, I know
our Duelscot, you know, a couple of things going on physically.
He had the shoulder injury of course at the end
of the year at Penn State and so so yeah,
I don't know the ins and outs of that, but
it wouldn't be unusual if they if they found the
foot injury as he's going through his medical evaluation.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Is there any type of fallout from it? Like, oh,
like I'm looking on social there there goes being a
top three pick or anything like that, Like has there
any real fallout?
Speaker 5 (50:48):
I mean, like I I just don't think so. I mean,
he's a really high level prospect and I I'd be
surprised if he fell because of it, you know, I think,
you know, will you be talking about something like that?
Is if there's some sort of chronic condition and I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
That's what this is got it. Albert on the matt
Stafford situation.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
If you had to right now list the top three
most likely destinations for Stafford or who he's going to
be the quarterback for next year? Who are the top
three possibilities including the Rams.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Including the Rams, Yes, I would say, I would say
Giants and Rams, maybe co Ones, and then I'll give
you guys four teams, So those two teams tied for
first and then and then I would say maybe Raiders, Steelers.
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I think the Raiders are a little more motivated. I
think the Steelers are probably a better landing spot for
him from a football standpoint. I think that what separates,
you know, the Giants from those two might be motivation
to get the physics should take care of, and I
think the hard thing for the Rams right now. I
don't think like the relationship between Matthew Stafford and Sean
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McVay has strained, But I do think the relationship between
Matthew Stafford and the organization is a little strained. And
I think the best way to describe the way this
has gone down, and we talked about this the last
couple of weeks, but it's like, you know, basically, it's
they weren't willing to pay him at a certain price point.
They basically challenged him to go out and find that price.
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He goes out and finds that price somewhere else. So now,
how do you wheel that back in a few of
the teams without going to you know where, that where
the player thought his price should be all along. I
think that's a that's a difficult that's it's it's it's
difficult to put the Tuesday tuesdays back in a tube
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on that one. So it's an impossible no. But I
do think there's you know, a relative likelihood now that
that that he gets moved. And again, I I don't
think it's any more likely that he has moved that
he doesn't. But I think, you know, you're you've gotten
to the point now where maybe it's even odds.
Speaker 6 (53:10):
But I've got one more for you. What's up with
Miles Garrett? It sounded like you want to be traded now.
It sounds like Andrew Berry is saying, and there's reports
coming out that if they were to give them a
reworked contract that he would want to stay, and the
Browns don't.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Want to trade him. What's the what's going to shake
out with that?
Speaker 5 (53:27):
The Browns have never wanted to trade him, and that
that that really Brady has been their stance the whole
way through. From the minute the trade request went in,
which I think, I mean it was before it actually
went in a week before or so, but became public
the Monday after the Super Bowl, the Browns have been
pretty adamant, both privately and publicly they're not moving him now.
(53:50):
Like as we talked about, like there's always the possibility
that that that that someone comes along and and offers
you a price you can't refuse. But you know, I
Andrew Verry hasn't shown any appetite publicly or privately with
teams that have called to move Miles Garrett, and you know,
(54:10):
I think that sort of puts the ball back in
Miles Garrett's court. I don't think Miles is motivated by
money on this one. I think this is being force
right when he says it's about finding a place where
he can go and compete for championships. But you know,
money can always be a factor on these things as well,
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And it wouldn't shock me if it won. If we
won't get to the end of all of this. In fact,
I think I think you'd probably be likely that when
we get to the end of all of this, he's
got a new contract somewhere.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Maybe you uh, you sound tired, man, Okay, I've.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
Got It's a condition called like combine voice. I'm developing
it right now. It's not it's not full bloom, but
I'm developing combine voice.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Okay, Albert, talk to me about your haircut.
Speaker 6 (54:59):
I guess a photo of it. Albert, Yeah, I saw
a photo of the haircut. You're you're nice, You're high
and tight, you're ready to go. Is it a combine cut?
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Well, what's going on with the haircut?
Speaker 5 (55:09):
You don't like it?
Speaker 6 (55:11):
No, I didn't say I don't like it. I'm just
saying it's shorter than normal, and I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
It's like kind of like part of it for me
is like then I don't have to worry about it
for a little while. So I went a little short
of this time. But it's not that much shorter than
it normally is.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
I just I didn't know if you felt like you
need to put on a more professional look, a little tighter,
you know, with all.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
That, Well, thank you, I appreciate that it looks more militant.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
It definitely looks more militant.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Pang guys, like, you know, maybe if I walked into
the Starbucks Editianapolis.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Out, George Schultz isn't saying anything to you.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
No that point, Nope, and no keep my name out
your mouth, Abe, all right and gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Well, Abe, we appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Uh, you know, keep us posted if those two bump
into each other again and throw down, we'd.
Speaker 5 (55:59):
Like he Hey, if it happens, you guys will be
the first to know, and hopefully I'll be an eyewitness
this time.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
He is Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
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Thanks a, b We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Thanks so at Albert Brier on X is where you
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This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Aarings, Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So let's just go ahead and break this day. Break
it down, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So there was a report from Jordan Schultz, a Fox
who said that Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford recently got
together in Montana and that Tom Brady hosted him at
his home. There, they spent time together, they went skiing.
Brady has been trying to convince him to join the Raiders,
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with discussions ongoing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Called it an unplanned meeting and that they sort of
ran into each other and they were on co hosting or.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Recruiting Montana at his home. Yeah, just sort of just
you know, totally just happened. Matthew Stafford just happened to
be rolling through Montana. Yeah, got to Tom Brady's home.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Random, and so I have that happen a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I just randomly, like Rand in the q's crib the
other day, you know, just stop by, say hey to
the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're in the neighborhood. Yeah, it makes all the sense
in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Jordan, Jordan Schultz followed up with this on Twitter and said,
if you really think or excuse me x. He followed
up on X and said, if you really think Tom
Brady and Matthew Stafford just happened to run into each
other at a ski resort in Montana, of all places,
at the exact same time. I've got a bridge to
sell you. They were together over the weekend. It happened.
Multiple teams are interested in Stafford, and Brady has been
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leading the charge to get him to the Raiders if
the Rams decide to trade him. So there was another
corresponding report from Tom Pellasero, who reported that he spoke
with Don Yee, Brady's agent, and Yee said the following,
I know that reporters sometimes make mistakes in their haste,
but this story's inaccurate. Ian Rappaport took, well, yeah, I mean, like,
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of course he's not actually free, and so Ian Rappaport
followed up and just said, you know, Tom Brady and
Matthew Stafford, like most celebrities, also have homes in Montana,
et cetera kind of a snarky response.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, apparently, Jordan Schultz, most celebrities have homes in Montana.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Jordan Schultz was not was not thrilled with what had happened,
and at a Starbucks at the JW. Marriott in Indianapolis,
Schultz accosted Rapaport, what.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Does that mean? To what degree does that that mean?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Which, by the way, I mean, if you've ever seen
me in Rappavoy, he's not as little guy.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's little. One of the.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
First times I ever saw Ian it was at the Combine.
He was crouched down, like hunched down into a ball
behind one of the stages and on the phone with someone.
It was just a very awe cord thing to see because.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I was like, what it looks like it is he
hiding from someone? Like what is he doing? Was his
phone plugged in? He had a short charger, and you.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Know, he was just he was just chose to kind
of sit down like that, crouched down behind the stage.
Is years ago, and I thought to myself, like, he
always seems small.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He looked really small at that moment.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
He's a dude, and and Jordan is the biggest dude,
but he's much bigger than I, And so I could
imagine this conversation going on between the two and obviously
if anyone's been in Indianapolis for the combine, they've probably
been by the J. W.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Marriott.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I've stayed there a number of times for different events
and things. I'm just picturing this this altercation. How did
they describe the interaction?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And he had cost him accosted him.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So this, according to Mike Florio, Uh, you know who
did a deep dive on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Was the worst.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Rappaport was talking to an agent Jordan. Schultz approached him
and said, we need to talk. Rapaport replied, we're told quote,
we don't need to talk. Schultz then made accusations about
rap Report. Rap Report, we're told regards the accusations as unfounded.
The two men were essentially face to face, according to
this report from Florio, Jordan Schultz said, if you have
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anything to say it to me, say it to my
effing face. If this continues, we're going to have an
effing problem. Rap Report asked Schultz to step back. Schultz responded,
if this happens again, we're going to have an effing problem,
or words sort of like that. Now, I'll step back.
The incident was reported to NFL Security, and NFL Security
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has taken statements from multiple witnesses. Rapaport declined to comment
on it, and Schultz said that in response to Mike
Florio that it lasted a little over a minute. It
really isn't anything too much. Ian Rappaport had and I
had a verbal altercation. Multiple agents and reporters were nearby.
Rapaport was the one who called security shortly after, but
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never escalated anything further than that. So, all of that
being said, conflicting reports, it's the combine in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
There's maybe some people that are hung over there or
you know, bend in the elbow a.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Little bit presently speaking, And we nearly had a Donnybrook
between NFL reporters, one of them being Jordan Schultz of
Fox and Ian Rapp Beford of the NFL Network, all
over whether or not Tom Brady hosted Matthew Stafford for
a ski trip in Montana.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I had one question, Yeah, let's go, let's go. Who
do you guys think would have won? Oh Schultz, Oh
Schultz by a mile.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Yeah, throwing Mike Florio, throwing Dan Wolk and anyone on
that Jack like, they would all get absolutely tossed around.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The Schultz. Yeah, I'll take I'll take Schultz heavy.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Fa It'll have been like Lee fighting Walt also would
have been tossed around.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Who would have got tossed around Lee? Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
What would kicks? And by the way, would it is
built different if.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He had a super kitchen in the back of his car.
A bit of a.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Home game for Jordan Schultz because his dad was a
former CEO, the CEO of Starbucks, so the fast Press
went down to the Starbucks. He knew his surroundings, so
there's no way Rappingport would have had a chance there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Wow, I never met a home field advantage if you will.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, I never met him, but you guys are you
guys are certain that he would whoop him?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah? Positive, no offense seeing Rapping for it. I've never
met him. He wouldn't. He would take up on you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He wouldn't like surprise you be like, dang, I ain't
know Ian had that any You know, sometimes guys that's small,
there's a lot of fight in them and you just
didn't know about it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They normally don't call security.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I mean, he could have been doing him a favor
and saving him from the ass whipping that he was
going to dish.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Out.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
You know, sometimes people are trying to be considerate about
other people's safety when you're messing with him. You know,
he could be that dang could be that dangerous. You know,
I'm gonna go with no, You're gonna go with No.
Is a very docile person. But I would just be
feeling like people like that are crazy man, like they
got a crazy side to him.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I just I just love that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
This is Uh, this is what sparked off a near
throwdown between reporters was whether or not Tom Brady hosted
Matthew staff Why would Jordan Schultz make that up?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, first off, Jordan Schultz wouldn't make it up.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
And Ian Rapaport, I think with the with the way
he's reporting what he's.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Reporting, he's probably trying to in a way.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I don't want to speak for him and what he's doing,
but this is this is what I'm guessing. Okay, what
took place between Matthew Stafford and Tom Brady is something
that is probably not the last time it's gonna gonna
happen between Tom Brady and a potent prospect that they're
looking at.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Signing trading for.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Whatever scenario you want, you want to paint because Tom
Brady has the power to do that, right, he's a
minority owner, but they're they're empowering him to be a
part of this process. He's in a very public position
at Fox, so he's got continual relationships and conversations with
a lot of the people that he's calling games with.
So even though he's not in production meetings, he could
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still talk to all these guys on his you know,
outside of that one on one on his phone, in
person at his home.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, So it's easy to think that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
And by the way, there is a number of people
who happen to live out in that area, and if
they're all out there, there's gonna be times when they
run into each other, whether it's planned or unplanned, or
it could be unplanned and then it turns into something
that's being planned them maybe. But then all I think
there's some other curious I meaneyne do you go to.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm being funny because I would love to live in Montana?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Or you got the big belt buckle.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I went out when I went out on Friday, I
went out with my my cowboy hat, my boots on
and buckle.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah I did. Yeah, you attended a funeral with the
cowboy I did.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That wasn't a cowboy hat hat. That was just a
big hat.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Look like spotted spotted Alasso too.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Anyway, to get back to the point there is I
think Ian Rappitport is trying to protect the position now
that the NFL is in with Tom Brady being involved
with the Raiders in this capacity, and he may not
be the last, and so there may be other players
who get involved in some way or in some capacity
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like this, and they do have to protect you know,
I don't know if you want to call it an advantage,
but like how all this stuff could work out.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So that's where I definitely one let me ask you that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
And and there's really nothing like they can do about
that outside of trying to create more guardrails or rules
and stuff which it's impossible to be able to enforce.
It's it's no different when when the NFLPA is like
they either try to find out about tampering or collusion.
It's like they claim that all the time it's impossible
to prove. It's I should say almost impossible to prove.
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It's why it's never worked out. Every time there's there's
been an accusation of collusion or people of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All it's tampering. It's like, oh, okay, well, good luck
trying to prove that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Pro Bowl was for that. Uh let me let me
ask you. Do you feel like the big presence of
Tom Brady is going to continue to command this type
of attention. People are going to pay attention to everything
tom Brady is doing. Does this become more of an
issue for Mark Davis? Like does this get to a
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point of where Mark Davis is like, man, you got
our block all the way hot, Like things that you
would get away with, maybe they're not going to get
away with, like just normal things you might not get
away with because of how big Tom Brady is. I mean,
for every positive that you have, is there the possibility
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that there could be a negative connected to the fact
that Tom Brady is who he is. It sounds like
this could be a prime example of.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That meaning meaning that the attention it brings and you
can't be.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And that could bring you know, if if Brady didn't
know a rule or something that may have you know,
taken place like it could cost the it could cost
the organization, right, it could cost a franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
If this is considered.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
If this comes back that it's considered tampering, don't you
think that there is going to be action taken against
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't know how far. Again it's tampering, it's tampering. Yeah,
But if you conclude that he was a part of tampering,
how do you not how do you not discipline the franchise?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean you could discipline them. Whatever they're going to
discipline them is going to be, what you know, a
couple hundred grands and a draft pick. But if you
land Matthew Stafford, it was worth.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It, probably, But again, how are you going to how
are you going to prove it? How are you going
to prove him? I don't know. And that's the hard
part is.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Because a headache like having does that for sure a
deal that you have to you have to deal with
what comes with having Tom Brady be a part of
what you're doing too.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
One hundred percent. I don't even know if it's not
a bad thing. It helps out I'm certain that it does.
But but that's what they're pointing out why Ian might
be putting out a report where he's trying to kind
of protect what is the integrity or the perceived integrity
of the league that's now adopted Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As a minority owner.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So so he's gonna for example, and even then like
even you know, Don Yee kind of coming out making
a statement kind of throws a little bit of throws
some back at Jordan Schultz, who's just saying, look, this
is how this stuff works. I'm giving you a peek
behind the curtain, and everyone else out around him is like, no,
that's not exactly what was happening. It's like, well, yeah,
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the reason like like here's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Jordan Schultz is newer to this space.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Is it fair to say that, Yeah, yeah, okay, I
think these guys are trying to say, like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Pred hey, many this is like this is kind of
how it works.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Though, Like you might know everything, you don't need to
say everything. You need to understand how these things work
so you can craft things that you give the report
that you need without giving away how exactly this yeah
or not even that, just like you're gonna be damaging
what happens all the time in the league. So if
you report this every single time, it's gonna be a problem,
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Like you're gonna be the problem, not the rest of
us who are a part of this, because he did.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Exactly yeah, and it's also he you know, he might
be had he pulled him aside and been like, hey,
just so you know, like you're also affiliated with Fox,
so's Tom Brady like you're kind of yet it's one
hundred percent accurate, but let's play this the way it
should be played.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know, we've been in this game a little bit longer.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's a fact that he took kind of a snarky
approach and a dismissive approach on social media, and Jordan
Schultz is like, Okay, that guy's getting a Venti Latti
whatever he's getting from Starbucks. Let me go ahead and
dust him up a little bit and he'll call security.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
So it's just can I actually say, I know we've
got to take a break because we're up against it,
But I do think it's it's fair that we come
back and try to put a cap on some of
this conversation, just in regards to the courting process, because
I do think it's interesting if the whole skiing between
Tom Brady and that Stafford and I'm just I'm picturing
at the top of like a mountain, you know, sitting
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there skiing down there together. I'm just I'm picturing of
all the ways that player have been courted over the years.
I mean, the Mike McCarthy sleep against Jerry Jones' house
is like right up there at the top for me.
We've got to discuss some of the different ways these
guys have been courted over the years before we put
a cap on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's a hell of a plan. It is two pros
and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we were discussing the big story
in the world of football, which was Tom Brady and
Matthew Stafford reportedly skiing together in Montana, according to Jordan
Schultz of Fox that was disputed by Ian Rappaport and
Tom Pellisero the NFL network. Schult saw Rapaport at the
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Starbucks and decided to approach him, and fisticuffs nearly ensued.
And so we are now going to break down the
courting process as to what you were willing to do
to try and get your guy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Because apparently Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford to go skiing
together min Tanna to make it happen. Yeah, I just
I got so many questions, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
For example, you know, it was reported that Matt Stafford
was was kind of courted out there to go skiing
with Tom and that's how this whole discussion started. It
was then refuted that that was not the case. Matt
Stafford has a place out there, which he's made a
ton of money, so it's not that hard to believe
that he's got multiple places and they happened to maybe
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own a place in the same place, you know. I like,
just so people understand, Like Sam Bradford, Jeff Fish, I
think they both own a place near each.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Other in like a Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
So it's it's not uncommon for a bunch of NFL
guys and coaches and different people to kind of all
have a place in similar areas because they like to
hang out and they're like minded, et cetera. So anyway,
I'm just picturing like the phone call if if Stafford's like, hey, man,
like bring your bring your ski boots and bring bring
your gear, or it was like Tom Brady providing him,
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like you can borrow mine or how did it all
ensue and work out? Like that's what I'm I'm really
curious to figure out. Or maybe you know, just again,
Matthew Stafford, who's you know, still playing, is doing something that,
by the way, is most likely written that in his
contract he can't do. Like if Matt Stafford got hurt
skiing or snowboarding, most likely his guarantees would be voided
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in his contract because that's like one of those no
note things you can do when you're a player. So
I just got a lot of questions around it, And
like I said, the one that always sticks out to
me is Mike McCarthy's sleeping over at Jerry Jones and
just think about the pillow talk they had. And I'm
just sure there's other examples we can think of too,
but this one's got to be right up there.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Didn't you guys get courted at any point during your careers?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Not?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
What was a draft tick? Maybe that was about it. No, No,
never went to anybody's house, Lil Danny, didn't take you
on the yacht. No, never, that's different. He's already there.
It's not you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Courted when you're a free agent, or in this case,
he's allowed to seek a trade, so he's not even
a free agent, but he's allowed to It's entirely different,
you know. That's that's more of like the you know,
the wanting, you doning you that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I did get courted.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Actually, I saw a Picket in his room when I
was getting courted by Green Bay. That was my first
impression was they were putting me up in a room
when I was visiting, and I was there at the
same time as the big lineman Picket. That's his name, right,
I don't know big linman for green Bay Lee Lee.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Who's the big lineman for Well, Kenny Pickett was the
quarter was too young?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, no, this was a big lineman for for He
became a free agent and went to green Bay. Picket
I believe is his last name.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well Kenny Pickett was drafted. Was he drafted by him?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, Pickett, Ryan Pickett tackle he was picket right, Ryan Pickett.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, he was in there. He had Thank you he
had Ryan Was it Ryan Pickett?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I think?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So he had us good job. It's Ryan Pickett. He
was Ryan Pickett and he had multiple trays of of
Ryan Pickett. Ryan Pickett. How much did he waited Lee,
Ryan Pickett? Oh, we don't need to shame the guy
in the air. No, it's not shaming.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
He's just a pretty He waited three forty had multiple trays.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't know, don't.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I got my eyes up really quickly because he was
like sitting there almost like in his natural And me
and my wife walked in with one of the people
that works with Green Bay, and he was.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Like, oh, oh man, oh man. And I was like.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Sorry, bro, and we backed out of the room slowly,
like real slow.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So the packers courted you with trays of food. Well,
he had trays of food.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Trays room Brady's got a ski trip planned. The packers
got a buffet.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It wasn't it was a buffet on his his hotel table.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Do you want to really go down a warble right
now about Ryan Pickett?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
He's he's from is it pronounced zephyrillis Frillis Hills or
zephyrillis how you pronounce it, don't you know? The water
like the bottled water that's where he's from in Florida.
Huh yeah, No, kidding, like most famous for bottled.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Water at Water. Yeah. Oh that's awesome. Hell, there you go,
I know that. Well, I'll just say this.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm just looking at this year's depth chart for the Raiders.
I'm just curious, does does he make this team better?
Does he make this this Raiders team better? Or is
that Stafford? Is it the start of a gutting process
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or does he contribute or does he come in and
make the team that they currently have better than what
they were?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I don't think there's any doubt he makes it better.
I mean, they'll be better at quarterback play, so I
think that alone gives them a better chance.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So you guys trust Jakobe Myers and Trey Tucker. I mean,
DJ turned that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
They've got a draft and add some free agents. So
remember they've got a ton of cap space. Yeah, a
ton of cap space.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Maybe h Cooper Cup could be on the table as
well too, a little regunion there and joins him.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
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Speaker 2 (21:55):
All right, so is this bad news?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Because Adam Shefter reported this last night. Uh, I guess
he was not in a dust up at the combine
on like some other reporters. But Adam Schefter reported that
Abdull Carter has a stress reaction in his right foot.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
UH.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Test revealed that on Wednesday, and that the Penn State
standout will need to decide soon whether to have surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
According to his agent, Drew Rojas, d.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Thinking I got cross is that the laws.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
No, they're not named Drew, They're named Diego. Yeah you know,
na Diego, don't That's how the laws pronounced it. I
know what, I know what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Dog?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
According to h Drew Rohaus, rosenhas the our mixed opinions
on whether he needs dream. We will figure that out
in the near future.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I like that anyway, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
He says that Carter has two options here. He could
have preemptive surgery, have a screw inserted in his right foot,
and return to working out and running in about eight weeks,
or he could bypass the surgery. Conduct his PROTA at
Penn State on March twenty eighth and prove to NFL
teams that he doesn't need a procedure. So, mister Errington,
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what do we know?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I know what you know? I know what you know.
I mean, had I known that, I would have said something.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Was interesting though, when I was watching him walk around,
I did notice.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Little limp, a little limp, a little hitch, a little hitch.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Now, how do you differentiate kind of having that riz,
kind of having that like little swagger?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
How do you.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Differentiate you know what I'm saying, like, how do you
differentiate the swag from having Actually he.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Was still swagged out, he was still walking with a
little swag, but it was almost like he was walking
like me.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I've seen some like old school cats, they have so
much swag when they walk it looks like they've got
like a back problem or something wrong the wag. But
that's just that's just well, your's just more of like
a shuffle. I really do have a back problem.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, you and you've got legitimate issues. But like I'll
ask them about you, is everything all right? They're like, yeah, man,
it's how I walk. I was like, oh, okay, you keep.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Walking on You're right though you're some guys do be
having that Listen. I'm not going to make too big
of a deal about it. I mean, obviously he if
you're being projected as the number one overall pick in
and some people's on some people's boards, then you're going
to garner a lot of attention. And if something like
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this becomes common knowledge, I'm curious, did he even know?
You know, I don't know that he knew that they
might have discovered that doing doing the during the medical
you know, the medical procedures that that take place where
they go over your body. And because I almost feel
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like it would have been better, and this is a
misstep if I'm the agent, I think it would have
been better if you you allow people to know that
you know, I'm letting my foot heel, He'll up and
I'll be ready to go for the pro day and
and and just put it out there like I thought
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it was his shoulder the reason why he wasn't, you know, participating,
But it makes more sense if you're saying that you're
you have an injury on your foot that just needs
time to heal.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Maybe this was the hood Dame injury that we thought
they were referring to the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Which maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
There's also the reality that they'll discover injuries at the combine.
Like again, we we always try to go back explain
to people the origin or the reason for the combine
is for.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The medicals first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
That's always what the rationale was for why they needed
some event like this.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And obviously it's grown, as you heard Pete kind of talk.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
About all the different people that are around it, not
just like the agents. It's like the insurance agents, guys
trying to sell you insurance. There's chiropractic conventions, there's like
trainer conventions, there's strength training conventions. There's different products from
like angle tone to shoulder braces and so forth. I mean,
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it is all going on at this time of the
year at the Combine. Like I really had no clue,
and so I'd gone there for a series of years
and you just walk around different hotels and different conference
rooms and you see, like what's going on. You're like,
holy cow, like it is it? Look, the super Bowl
is the super Bowl. It's kind of in a separate
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event as far as all the other already that work
with NFL players and around NFL teams. I would actually
argue that Combine has more people there for that specific
stuff than at the super Bowl because the super Bowl's
more of again, it's it's different partners and you know,
corporate partners, et cetera. It's just a little different. But
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the combine's right up there. I mean, it is a
huge event for the NFL. But what a lot of
people don't understand is there's times where players discover injuries.
Like they'll go in there and they'll do different tests,
and they'll do you know, MRIs and all kinds of stuff,
and you'll walk out of there with like an executive
physical like you've never had before in your life. And
they'll be like, yeah, you've got an issue on your
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left shoulder here, You've got actually an issue in this
knee here. And you know, you'll sit there and be like,
I had no idea. They're like, yeah, you'll probably need
to get get that cleaned up at some point. I mean,
it is one of the craziest things when you have
thirty two different medical staffs take a look at your body.
I mean, never ever the rest of your life, well
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you have that thorough of a process and examination of
your body to determine.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What's wrong with it?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now, how would this be missed by Penn State or
not that it? I mean, I don't know, not to
air them out or anything, but how would this be?
How would they not He's a tough kid.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
He might have played through it not really known.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I mean, you're not trying to go get looked at
all the time or miss time, you know. So it's
not that uncommon that you have an injury that sometimes
goes unnoticed. I mean there's oftentimes it's more of like
the hard issues things like that that we that we
find players discovered. But this, this sort of this sort
of thing happens too.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Wasn't that the same thing with Trey Smith, who's going
to be the free agent in Kansas City? That's why
he dropped in the draft? Was there was some stuff
going on? That's why he dropped in the draft too?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, he was projected to be a much higher draft
pick and then he went in like the was it
the fourth round later something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But you said that as if he's dropping because of this, No,
he did drop.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Okay, he's going to be a free agent.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I think think the different with he had blood clots
and his lungs or something like that, or a history
of blood clots that was more of a concern, so
a little different.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But yeah, if they did discover it at the combine,
I mean you're talking about that's not that type of
injury you're dealing with. That's just not a probably the
most easy, easily detected injury, you know. I just don't
see how and you could feel something like I've I've
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had listen when you're when you're a football player, you
some guys have crazy, crazy high paying thresholds, and what
what you would think is excruciating in your situation is
really just nagging or uncomfortable. So I don't I don't
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know if he knew of it. I don't know if
they discovered it. I don't know. I don't know that
details on it. I just know that an injury like
an irritated foot, like because that's what it sounds like.
Like his foot's irritated, right you put pressure on it,
It's sore, you know. I don't know to what degree
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or or what capacity that is. But I mean, if
you're saying that he gets a surgery now and he's
eight weeks removed from what he needs to do, or
you just allow it to heal on its own. You
give it time, and then you'll you'll be back at
regular speed.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I just I don't see this being that big of
a deal. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
It's like an affect his draft status one way or another. Yeah,
I don't think so, And honestly I would. I would
tell him this, if you need the surgery, go get it.
Like we've talked about before, the reasoning why guys wouldn't
potentially participate at the Combine. Some could be medical related
like this. Others are just like, yeah, there's no point.
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This isn't really conducive for me to succeed. This is
also a team that played into January, and so we're
talking about a month later, where even if he did
come out unblemished, it might be hard for him to
prepare himself to test the way he'd like to test
and prove himself. Like the hard part for a lot
of these guys is if you go out and run
a forty at the combine and it doesn't go well,
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you know what happens. That's what gets posted Like you're
gonna go run it again on your protege, try to
improve but the story's already.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Out, like, hey's slow.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
He didn't run a four four. We thought he's gonna
run a four four. And so that's that's the hard
part about all this. As the college football season has
extended for a lot of these guys, they don't have
a lot of time to prepare themselves for what has
become like kind of a track and field event. Now
that's not necessarily specifically the case here, but what i'd
say to him is, this is going to be the
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longest year of your life, So go get surgery now, like,
get yourself prepared to play in September, and not worry
about out all this stuff because your film is ultimately
what you're gonna get drafted on, and so maybe some
of the interviews, etc.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So if you do need surgery, go get it.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Get it over with so you can get back healthy, rehab,
prepare yourself for your rookie NFL season, because it's gonna
feel like a long time. Like you don't want this
to be nagging you as you go into your rookie
season and then you have to miss time later on
because you should have gotten surgery and you didn't. So
I would say, get the surgery man, like, go get
this cleaned up, Go get a fixed, Go find a
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way of getting into your rookie season feeling.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
As good as possible.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
If this is something that's nagging you now, it's only
gonna nag you more later because it doesn't stop. Once
you get drafted. You're going into OTA's mini camps all
that stuff. You have a little time off in the summertime,
but really you're training your body more than ever before
to prepare for training camp. And once you get into
training camp, it's the preseason. It's the start of the season,
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and it is a gauntlet for you as a player.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Just wonder how serious in nature it is, because sometimes,
I mean, it could be as simple a fix of
getting you know, orthotics. You know they put that little
steel plate underneath and take take the you know, the
scans of your foot and stuff like that, and they
take the pressure off of certain spot. I know, I'm
tremendously flat footed, tremendous Like I am as flat footed
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as flat footed gets. I could pop it.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You can. Jonas's flat he can pop it too.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
If you ain't got no arches in your feet, let
me see you pop it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Pop pop pop pop.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Anyway, they ended up getting me orthotics and it it
clearly improved my level of life, my quality of life.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Can I ask this though, because I also got orthotics
for a foot injury and I thought it actually made
my back orse.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you notice that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Because it forced you to take on a different posture,
and it's probably the posture that you should have had, Like,
it's probably the posture that you probably should have. I know,
for me, I'm a sloucher. I'm a slouch and and
when I had when I haven't had my orthotics. I
lost them when I moved out here. But and that's
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the worst. It's the worst thing that ever happened to me,
by the way. But get some new ones. It bro
like I would have to go through the whole process.
It's like a whole process. Like you step on this,
like this piece of glass, well the glass, and then
the class run. Yeah, they run the scan on it,
and then then you do the foam and then they
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get that and then they do the molds and it's
just this whole big thing. No, it doesn't take that long.
It's a tedious process. Yeah, that's all. But the point
point I'm making though, is it definitely there's the possibility
that this is not as as dire where you would
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need surgery, a surgical procedure. But I don't know, you know,
I don't, I don't know, and I don't want to
speak out a term on it. I agree, if if
it is something he does or should you know, get
that that that's screwing his foot, then he should do
it as soon. But in my mind, wouldn't you have
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done that already, like you had enough time to actually
do if you weren't going to do the combine and
then potentially if if it, if it keeps you from
doing the Pro Day, which I could, I can almost
guarantee you it's a lock. He's doing the Pro Day.
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He's going to do the Pro Day, knowing I do.
Not only is he going to do the Pro Day,
but he's going to try to outperform what Micah did
at his Pro Day. He's going to try to outperform.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
What's the recovery time on that surgery.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I said eight weeks. They said, like he could be
back out in eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So he's gonna do the calm, He's gonna do the
Pro Day while he's injured. Yeah, but again I mean
he played an entire season. Damn.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I mean, I I I'm thinking, I know, I know
what Q's is saying makes sense. But if it's me,
I'm doing my pro day before I do anything. I'm
doing my pro day. I'm gonna handle my pro day.
I'm gonna handle business on my pro day. I'm gonna
get through my pro day and then I'm gonna stand
on business. I'm I'm must I'm I'm one hundred percent
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sure he's going to stand on business ten toes down
and pop with pop it with a hurt tell. Yeah,
I just hope he doesn't pop it, but yeah, that
wouldn't be good. But I don't listen. I've seen him.
I've seen him working like he's He's not just sitting
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around like letting his foot heel.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
He's working out.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
So if this was that serious of an injury in nature,
which makes me it leads me to believe that he
didn't know that it was there. Like I'm a lean
on the side of I don't think he even knew,
let alone saying why didn't why didn't Penn State staff
pick up on this? Like, I don't think I don't
think he knew. I'm I'm just assuming, but I don't
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think he knew he had that going on in his foot,
and so now that they uncover that, I mean, it's
something that he's probably going to have to address if
he was unaware of it, But I would I would
assume it's business as usual for him until he gets
through the pro day.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, I mean, I didn't know that Brady was Mexican,
that you were white or as black, kind of crazy.
I learned that on social media and leads ten ten
deep at the ball.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I was trying to figure out, are you claiming to
be Mexican? Is that what that was? I thought they're
talking about me. They do call him.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Is horribly inappropriate at this point, Like I said, every
time she plays it too, it's like it's like, it's
horribly insensitive.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Lorena, Well go ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
I'll just say his, you know, pigments a lot lighter
than mine. Yeah, I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Saying I was. Guy wrote it and they do away?
Didn't they do away with Speedy? Yeah? They did do.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
A guy wrote in on Twitter. They canceled him for
people wondering what we're talking about. A guy wrote in
on Twitter and said a Mexican a black dude and
a white dude walking.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
To a bar. It's the start of a joke, right,
and started joke on Brady wrote I'm Mexican, LeVar Mark, Yeah,
and I wrote I'm white. Questions like, it's like you said,
Drew Rojas, there right, Maybe there you go. Maybe that's
the telltale sign that you you are. I'll take that.
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Pronounce his name one more time, Drew Rojas. Who knew,
who knew? Who knew?
Speaker 6 (39:06):
It's all right, you'll get an F on that, but
it's probably not as bad as an F minus.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh well played.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
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Speaker 3 (39:22):
Right now, we go live to Indianapolis Albert Breer, the
star of Amazon's NFL on Prime Coverage, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You can get him on x at Albert Breer and
a man who we demand answers from as to who
you got Schultz, Voric Rappaport and the Donny Brook at
a Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
What can you tell us about the situation there.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Breer, Well, I wasn't there, but I wish I was.
It was Uh, a lot of people were talking about
it last night. For sure it was. I don't think
it ever came to a point where we were going
to find out who was going to win. But I
will say this, I've had this conversation with a few
people over the last few months. At your age, what
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would it take for you to get into a fist fight?
Like I think. My answer is, I think my wife
or kids would have to be in danger for me
to get in this fight.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I agree, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, so it it would take a lot for me
at my age you do a fist fight. I mean,
you know, sometimes sometimes the temperature can get turned up
on things, and it seems like that's sort of what
happened yesterday. But again, much I worked, I was there,
I wasn't there to see it.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Help us understand then, why the temperatures get turned up
so much? Right, Like I know Schultz's report talking about
Tom Brady courting Matt Stafford, and then Ian Rappaport and
Tom Pelisara come out and say it's not.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Exactly how it went.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Why why does this thing get so heated, like what
are they trying to protect?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
What are they trying to prove?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I mean, I don't know it. You know, it sounded
to me like it was a keep my name out
of your mouth type of situation. Yeah, which again, like
I don't know what it would take for me to
use that line with somebody at my age, but I
think it would be a lot more than whatever's going
on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Do you think Jordan got more street credit from that?
You know? Is that what it's about? Getting more street cred?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Like? Do you think you think he gets more street
credits that you're saying?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I don't know. Maybe that's what I was going for,
you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
It's you know, maybe yeah, I mean maybe something here.
He's being real and hey, you are not under oath, Breer.
You could just come with it, bro, like you know,
I mean, what's your nervous?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I mean, I mean I wish there was more, There
was more to there was more to reveal here. I
don't think there's a lot to it. I think it's
it was. It was a confrontation, ironically enough at a Starbucks,
but your ouse, I think I think it was over
over relatively.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Quick when you say keep your name out of my mouth.
That's like those are fighting words, like what and what
context was keep my name out of your mouth used
in this scenario?
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Wow, you're really like LeVar turning the investigative reporter.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I'm just curious because I didn't know, you know, no.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
No, because I was the investigative reporter last night, because
I did you know, I wasn't there. So I did
talk to a lot of sources about what happened. I
would say, I would I would say that, like, this
thing might not have just been about this one thing.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, there you go. So this was a.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Build up, all right, there may have been some build
up to this and yeah, like so all right, I
that's sort of where we got where we got if
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, okay, that's more context though.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, there you go. Thank you now your responsible reporter here.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I mean, if you got reckless, we would just say
Mike Florio said it, not you, and that was to
save everybody involved it.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
So now I'm wondering on the report itself, was there
a meeting and how much do you buy that they
just happened to be in the same ski lodge at
the same time that happened to be owned by Tom
Brady while they were out there in Montana hitting the well.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
I mean, that is a very high end ski area
and it's I think you guys, you guys might be
familiar with it, but it's a very exclusive ski area
where a lot of celebrities have places. So I don't
think it's the most you know, like out of control
coincidence that two people on that level would see to
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see each other at that place. And I know Donnie,
tom Brady's agent, went on the record talking about it.
I mean, look, it's it's it's not really a secret
and hasn't been over the last week and half two
weeks that the Raiders are interested and have been interested
and have been digging into to in Matthew Stafford's availability.
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And you know, Brady's going to be a part of
these things now for the Raiders, and it's part of
you know, what he promised that Pete Carroll and to
John Spytech when you hired him was you know, you're
gonna have resources, and I'm not going to be there
day to day, but I'm gonna have a presence and
I'm gonna use my name to help the organization. You know,
clearly that's that's something he's tried to do in this situation,
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regardless of how the whole thing went down.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Is there a chance this could turn into Like I
asked the Fellas this earlier.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I know he's trying to help.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
But with the level of fame, popularity and clout that
that Tom Brady has, could this have a reverse effect
on what they're trying to get accomplished in in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Could have become a distraction? Could could have become a
headache for Mark Davis and in the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
If like stuff like this is happening, if there's like
I don't know, if if Brady is like hovering over
things during the season and things aren't going well, I
mean maybe, I guess. I don't think it can be
a negative now though. I mean I think you know,
when you're talking about Courton free agents or courting guys
that you might trade for, or Brady being a resource
(45:18):
and how you evaluate quarterbacks, I think it's I think
it's a plus for the Raiders. And the part of
it is, you know, Tom does have relationships with these guys.
He obviously competed against Teke Carroll for a long time,
and John Spytech is somebody he got pretty close to,
you know, in three years the two spent together in Tampa.
So you know, I think, you know, it's as long
(45:42):
as it's not happening like you know, in the middle
of the season, when when things are going the wrong
way or whatever. I don't I don't really see how
how will be anything.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
But a positive Albert help us with maybe something that
you're hearing there at the combine, whether it's a pending
trade coming up or a potential destination for a star quarterback.
What are some of the things you're hearing there in
in Indy?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well, I mean, certainly Brady, the the Stafford situation. It's
the big domino in the quarterback market. So you know
what happens after that, Well, you know, like if if
the Stafford winds up going to say the Giants, then
maybe that opens up things for for for Aaron Rodgers
potentially to go to the Rams. I'd expect Jimmy Garoppo
(46:31):
to be in the mix there too. I think things
with Justin Fields are a little uncertain. Could he wind
up someplace like the Jets, or you know, does he
go back to Pittsburgh. I don't know he would go.
I don't know if he went back there, if he
would be the no doubt about it started. But if
you like to keep working with him, and then Sam
Donald's name is an interesting one, you know, is that
(46:52):
a tag? Is that a tag? And trade? We know
where are they at with J. J. McCarthy. If if
it's not Donald coming back to start rewind up somewhere
like Vegas, and Vegas doesn't get Stafford. And if he's
not there, who is the Viking's insurance policy against JJ McCarthy,
uh coming back off the knee as a Daniel Jones.
(47:13):
So there's I think, you know, like this game of
musical chairs that will start at the quarterback position once
we get closure on the Matthew Stafford situation, you know.
And then other than that, look, I would say, like
there just aren't a ton of big game free agents.
It's it's hard to look at the free agent class
and really pluck out guys who you can look at
(47:34):
and say, yeah, if you sign this guy, you're gonna
you're gonna have you know, a core player for yourself
for the next four or five years. I mean, if
T Higgins doesn't make it to the market and think
they're still a little up in the air. You know,
we're we're we're we're looking at you know, an environment
where it's you know a lot of guys who either
have been hurt or are older. You know, it's just
(47:57):
I think the reality of what the salary cap is
in twenty twenty five, it's gone up so much that
for the most part, if you're if if you've got
a core player who's in the prime of his career,
you want to keep him, you're going to have the
resources to do it.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He is live in Indianapolis at the Combine, at the
stage where we were waiting to see whether or not
Jordan schultzenean rap before will actually turn it down or
just talk this time.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Are you guys looking for me to instigate this a little? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well, I mean, how common is agitated? Because I have
this is two separate questions. But since we're on the
topic again, is this the first time you've seen two
insiders or reporters almost come to blows at the Combine?
Speaker 5 (48:47):
No, No, I have seen I have seen a couple
of things in the past who was.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Talking about Glazer? Come on, say it was a Glazer?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
Do you know about that one?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, really, I just think you might about some some.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
On you you know, No, I mean I love jay. No.
There have been a couple of combine.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Where you heard about that one it was.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
There have been a couple of the combine where you know,
it gets late at night and someone sees somebody else
who you know they have been tweaking them and uh yeah,
I mean things can get a little ugly. It's a
you know, the streets of the streets of scoop Down
can get pretty nasty.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yet a fair enough.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Abe can I can I ask you did they find
out about Abdul's foot there or did they come in
that did Abdul and his team come in and that
was you know, kind of made known during the medicals
or how how did that all come about? Because that
is just now kind of like seeming breaking news.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
I have to dig a little bit more into that.
I don't have the ins and outs of it. LeVar Okay,
that's that's something that's not that's something that's not uncommon
that you know, like they would and you guys know,
you guys went through this, but the medical evaluation, a
lot of times they will on earth things and they'll
find stuff. We've we've we've we've seen the case of
guys having a shoulder injury or a heart condition that
(50:15):
when they when the guys go through the battery of test,
that stuff gets gets figured out. You know, I know
our Duelscot, you know, a couple of things going on physically.
He had the shoulder injury of course at the end
of the year at Penn State and so so yeah,
I don't know the ins and outs of that, but
it wouldn't be unusual if they if they found the
foot injury as he's going through his medical evaluation.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Is there any type of fallout from it? Like, oh,
like I'm looking on social there there goes being a
top three pick or anything like that, Like has there
any real fallout?
Speaker 5 (50:48):
I mean, like I I just don't think so. I mean,
he's a really high level prospect and I I'd be
surprised if he fell because of it, you know, I think,
you know, will you be talking about something like that?
Is if there's some sort of chronic condition and I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
That's what this is got it. Albert on the matt
Stafford situation.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
If you had to right now list the top three
most likely destinations for Stafford or who he's going to
be the quarterback for next year? Who are the top
three possibilities including the Rams.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Including the Rams, Yes, I would say, I would say
Giants and Rams, maybe co Ones, and then I'll give
you guys four teams, So those two teams tied for
first and then and then I would say maybe Raiders, Steelers.
(51:46):
I think the Raiders are a little more motivated. I
think the Steelers are probably a better landing spot for
him from a football standpoint. I think that what separates,
you know, the Giants from those two might be motivation
to get the physics should take care of, and I
think the hard thing for the Rams right now. I
don't think like the relationship between Matthew Stafford and Sean
(52:08):
McVay has strained, But I do think the relationship between
Matthew Stafford and the organization is a little strained. And
I think the best way to describe the way this
has gone down, and we talked about this the last
couple of weeks, but it's like, you know, basically, it's
they weren't willing to pay him at a certain price point.
They basically challenged him to go out and find that price.
(52:30):
He goes out and finds that price somewhere else. So now,
how do you wheel that back in a few of
the teams without going to you know where, that where
the player thought his price should be all along. I
think that's a that's a difficult that's it's it's it's
difficult to put the Tuesday tuesdays back in a tube
(52:50):
on that one. So it's an impossible no. But I
do think there's you know, a relative likelihood now that
that that he gets moved. And again, I I don't
think it's any more likely that he has moved that
he doesn't. But I think, you know, you're you've gotten
to the point now where maybe it's even odds.
Speaker 6 (53:10):
But I've got one more for you. What's up with
Miles Garrett? It sounded like you want to be traded now.
It sounds like Andrew Berry is saying, and there's reports
coming out that if they were to give them a
reworked contract that he would want to stay, and the
Browns don't.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Want to trade him. What's the what's going to shake
out with that?
Speaker 5 (53:27):
The Browns have never wanted to trade him, and that
that that really Brady has been their stance the whole
way through. From the minute the trade request went in,
which I think, I mean it was before it actually
went in a week before or so, but became public
the Monday after the Super Bowl, the Browns have been
pretty adamant, both privately and publicly they're not moving him now.
(53:50):
Like as we talked about, like there's always the possibility
that that that that someone comes along and and offers
you a price you can't refuse. But you know, I
Andrew Verry hasn't shown any appetite publicly or privately with
teams that have called to move Miles Garrett, and you know,
(54:10):
I think that sort of puts the ball back in
Miles Garrett's court. I don't think Miles is motivated by
money on this one. I think this is being force
right when he says it's about finding a place where
he can go and compete for championships. But you know,
money can always be a factor on these things as well,
(54:30):
And it wouldn't shock me if it won. If we
won't get to the end of all of this. In fact,
I think I think you'd probably be likely that when
we get to the end of all of this, he's
got a new contract somewhere.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Maybe you uh, you sound tired, man, Okay, I've.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
Got It's a condition called like combine voice. I'm developing
it right now. It's not it's not full bloom, but
I'm developing combine voice.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Okay, Albert, talk to me about your haircut.
Speaker 6 (54:59):
I guess a photo of it. Albert, Yeah, I saw
a photo of the haircut. You're you're nice, You're high
and tight, you're ready to go. Is it a combine cut?
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Well, what's going on with the haircut?
Speaker 5 (55:09):
You don't like it?
Speaker 6 (55:11):
No, I didn't say I don't like it. I'm just
saying it's shorter than normal, and I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
It's like kind of like part of it for me
is like then I don't have to worry about it
for a little while. So I went a little short
of this time. But it's not that much shorter than
it normally is.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
I just I didn't know if you felt like you
need to put on a more professional look, a little tighter,
you know, with all.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
That, Well, thank you, I appreciate that it looks more militant.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
It definitely looks more militant.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Pang guys, like, you know, maybe if I walked into
the Starbucks Editianapolis.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Out, George Schultz isn't saying anything to you.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
No that point, Nope, and no keep my name out
your mouth, Abe, all right and gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Well, Abe, we appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Uh, you know, keep us posted if those two bump
into each other again and throw down, we'd.
Speaker 5 (55:59):
Like he Hey, if it happens, you guys will be
the first to know, and hopefully I'll be an eyewitness
this time.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
He is Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the m m QB, part of Amazon's NFL on
Prime coverage, and he is in Indianapolis at the Combine.
Thanks a, b We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Thanks so at Albert Brier on X is where you
can where you can find him
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