Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Colts signing Daniel Jones should send a message to Anthony Richardson. Kirk Cousins is set to hit free agency but don’t expect another big payday and The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Aarings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
How the hell we feel here? Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
We just uh, LeVar and I had some discipline. We
just turned down and offered to try some Canadian chips.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, but Canadian chips? What are Canadian chips?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Dutch chips?

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Look?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Look who didn't turn them down? Old Dutch? Who didn't
turn down the Doloreans got it? He's look the usual
suspect frick and frack.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Now were these chips offered by someone who he's like
outside of the studio, that's like like that?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, yeah today Yeah, Ben Malor was sent some old
Dutch Canadian chips and.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
At least not yet today. I don't know. I mean
we have Yeah, they're delicious. Oh my gosh, I don't know. No,
I was just listening to to the response to where
they're delicious or where they good?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Anyway, yeah, I think they were free. I mean, I
don't know where being got them from, but a listener
in Canada sent them and they have ketchup flavored ones
and they're delicious. My god, what Ketchup. I did see though,
Oh man, I mean I feel like, you know, it's

(01:40):
just weird right like once you rather dip them in ketchup,
the Ketchup flavored. I'll say. What's weird is sitting here
watching them through the window, like we're at the zoo
and they're like licking their fingers and holding the Now
Lee's looking down at it. It's like, don't feed the
animals now, now Coop's getting involved. I mean, it really

(02:01):
does look like a zoo. What's that called observation? When? No,
not the petting part, like literally, like you know, it's
kind of like the windows so they can't hurt you. Yeah,
you can't hurt they can't hurt you. I mean, it's
it's interesting. What would the name of this What would

(02:23):
the name of this one be though? What would the
label on the window be? What are we looking at
right now? Wombots? Is that what they're called? Wombats? Wombats? Potheads?
I look at it, look at.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, it is uh.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Off and running here.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I was trying to escape animals, man, but clearly we
broke that rule today.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, we do know this that things are going to
I don't know if they got spicy chips back there,
but things can get a little spicy in the NFC
North if I don't personally, if I had my way,
I hope this happens.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
But all of a.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Sudden, there's an interesting development when it comes to the
quarterback dominoes that are falling around the NFL. You've got
Daniel Jones, who was with the Minnesota Vikings. There were
some there who were hoping Daniel Jones would be the
would be the guy to the veteran in the room,
JJ McCarthy there, they're looking for a veteran option. Yet

(03:33):
Daniel Jones is on his way to Indianapolis. He signs
a one year, fourteen million dollar deal with the Colts.
He's going to compete with Anthony Richardson for their starting
quarterback job. Obviously, Chris Ballard, their GM, spoke at the
combine and said, we want to create competition for the job.
They are not We're not pleased at times with Richardson
last year. And so it did feel like if Daniel

(03:55):
Jones wanted a better opportunity to get playing time, indian
Apple Bliss would have been the spot because it felt
like the writing was on the wall there from the
Anthony Richardson standpoint in Indy Fair too say so.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
The follow up questions are what does this mean for
Anthony Richardson, which I know a lot of people and
you know Pat McAfee had kind of made a comment
like ah, the quarterback of the futures here, it's like, well, it's.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
A one year deal for fourteen million.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
And if you look at the investment they made in
Anthony Richardson, his signing bonus was like twenty one point seven.
He's made it close to twenty five million since being
with Thedanapolis Colts. Now there's been frustration. You see the upside,
but there's been frustration because of last year tapping out
at a particular moment, and you know, Joe Flocky has

(04:45):
come in who's been a veteran and kind of did
things the way they probably should be done. So there's
concern in a number of ways, like will Richardson ever
be able to get it, ever be able to stay healthy,
which has been one of his other issues. And the
other thing is, look, Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard, I
don't think can afford to have a down year. So

(05:08):
bringing in Daniel Jones is risky in a lot of ways,
in part because he struggled with turnovers, in part because
you know, I don't know if there's gonna be a
quarterback battle and competition if Jones is the guy, if
Richison's the guy. I mean, all those questions lead to
probably both guys splitting reps, which isn't really preparing either

(05:29):
in a critical year for a head coach and a
general manager.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And general manager in particular.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Who he was on the end of the season, they
haven't you know, they hadn't won the division since he's
gotten there. There's a lot of questions around Indianapolis right now,
and I'm not sure this signing provides any clarity. I mean,
it's one thing if it's Rogers, It's one thing. If
it's maybe Russell Wilson, like guys who've got a Super Bowl,

(05:56):
guys who've had success. I don't know what your point
to a Daniel Jones. You know, he had one pretty
good year in New York and that's really been it.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I have no real intrigue on it, to be honest.
I think that if it were to work out for
Daniel Jones in Indianapolis, I'll cross that bridge when we
get there, like, Okay, he's having a year where he's
you know, kind of reviving kind of a lost career
at the pro level. But there's nothing in his his, uh,

(06:30):
his body of work that says that we should be
intrigued or excited about what that could mean for Indy.
In fact, I would say I would I would honestly
say Richardson has to I think Richardson has to look
at it from the standpoint of you're not You didn't
just bring in a guy that should be able to

(06:53):
replace me in theory, and but I know I need
to do better because you're looking for a guy to
replace me, that that ship become evident. And maybe that's
the clear message that comes to mind if you're Anthony
Richardson in this scenario. But I'm not looking at Daniel

(07:13):
Jones like, Okay, this guy is coming in and he's
going to take my job, and I don't feel like
looking at it from the outside end. Coverage of coverage
of Daniel Jones going there, I don't look I don't
look at it and say, Okay, Minnesota got worse by
letting Daniel Jones go, and the Colts got better. By
adding Daniel Jones. I don't. That's not the conclusion I

(07:34):
come to. I just I just come to the conclusion
that Daniel Jones went to the Colts. Are you?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Are you saying that the more interesting aspect of this
is what does Minnesota do from a veteran quarterback standpoint, because.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh, back to the NFC North Come on, yeah, I mean,
I don't. I don't think that. Again, you're putting it
all on You're putting it all on on JJ McCarthy.
That's for certain. You are putting it all on his shoulders.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Can I ask you guys this and who's more proven?
I mean again, not saying that Anthony Richardson has done
a ton and in fact some might say and you know,
the more he played last year, the worst things got
so but at least he's got it with fifteen starts
center his spelt and JJ McCarthy has nothing so far.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
So I feel like you're taking a tremendous risk by
getting rid of everybody. I would have thought that they
would have kept at least one of those two. You
got an opportunity to get Daniel Jones sometime during the
regular season. Obviously, Sam Donald play played very well, well
enough where it probably didn't make sense to pay him
the amount of money that would take to keep him there.

(08:46):
But I just I wonder, for as much as you
created momentum wise with the team that you have, why
would you allow Sam Darnald to get away not knowing
what JJ McCarthy is as a as a quarterback. I
don't that one I find to be a tat bit

(09:07):
strange because you could take a major step back if
JJ McCarthy doesn't come in and play the way that
you're hoping he's going to play. But you got to
find out at some point. I mean that's why.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
But but I mean you have a safety net. You
had a safety net. You can still have one, okay,
And what what what would that be? Who would that be?
I mean, what you're gonna bring Kirk Cousins back? Beat
him out? What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I mean, I'm just saying that, you know, you were
featured in his documentary on Netflix. You know, maybe Aaron
Rodgers would uh you know, kick the tires on that
now the Daily Mail for what It's like, how.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Long are you going to pre keep bringing that up
for I'm gonna do everything in my power from here
on out, just making sure that you never get involved
in anything else. Geez, I mean only because you constantly
bring it up. It's like, my god, man, I'm right, Like,
what's the what's the problem.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
We can't celebrate some success on this show, Like what
do you want us to do?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Just it?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Like ignore the fact that it happened.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
You know, if you celebrate the success, we have to
celebrate the low points, the failures, the sadness too, like
when your dog died, and you know, just other other
moments throughout time that you've really had Radio gold. You know,
the flipping of the coin in Chicago, se he was
gonna be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
You've brought us You've brought up my dead dog more
than I brought up.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Like backtrap that you referenced, Like maybe that's some of
those No subject has been brought up.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
No subject has been brought up more on this show
than Brady bringing up my dead dog. All right, So
I should be cleared of bringing up any topic for
the remainder of this show that we do it for
based on how many times my dead dog, that corpse
has been brought up on this show.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's not a corpse though it's a carcass, right corpse?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, but I right on this one. Yeah. And then,
by the way, did you.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Cream in it?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You said, I don't know. I cream made it. You
don't know how your dog is laying in a turn?
I mean once once they took him out, it was like,
all right, see you, bud, I have dress.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
How can you love something so much and then not
have any idea.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Because I don't what do you want me to do?
Bring him home and put him in an ashtray? I did? Yeah, Okay,
that's a lot of people. He's in an iron and
I'm not listen not to try and share out iron iron. Yeah,
I'd say different s now. I mean, I'll say what
I thought it was going to be and it'll come

(11:40):
out sounding differently.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Now, Lee, can we get an official pronunciation for what
they store the ashes, the dead body or dog?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes, it comes up as ern. He didn't look up anything, Q.
He just hit the buttons and I think those Dutch
chips have him tweaking out. He's crashing out right now
and I have my.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Dog in an urn mantle? Are you sure it's actually
yours that was pushing? They could have put anything in there. Yeah, no,
it's actually your.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Why are you not sure?

Speaker 6 (12:16):
But like Levar's sure, it's his.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I know. First off, the service I paid for
it was could you identify one of the whiskers and
the ashes? What I didn't look at the ash bro
what did you smell it?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh, that's this is all that company, which I should
have remembered their company and I should have gave them
a Yelp review because they handled it literally like he
was a person. They came in like he was a person.
Like it was like a corner or or like a
you know, a place where you know you go the

(12:51):
what is it? The where is? The more is it?
The more got the funeral home? Is that what it's called? Anyways?
Like when the funeral home people. And I've seen this
happen before because I had somebody like I have to
go in front of us before and they came in
in the same exact type of service when they came
and got the person with the same exact service, that's all.

(13:12):
When they came to get the dog, Well, my dog
was the size of a person. So I mean, you
bulldogs aren't little to eighty three. He wasn't two eighty three.
That's a big dog, you know, it's a big, real
big dog.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But hey, it's good to see that we landed on
this after discussing Daniel Jones arriving to the Indiana.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, we ended up. We brought up the NFC North.
I mean every every time, man, it's like, how does
this affect the Bears? How does this affect the Bears? No,
it's not the Bears, but I will say I will
say though this could be the start of the death
of the Vikings. It just could be, and it could
be heading towards the death of Daniel Jones as well,

(13:55):
like maybe cremations all around, coming all around.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
There's there's a few things with this, you know, for
signing a one year deal, he might have been able
to sign something longer than this, But there's a couple
of reasons why you wouldn't. The one is, if you
play well, and he plays the way he's hoping he's
going to play, he's going to be in a position
where he can sign anywhere else as a free agent,
or he you know, or he can sign back with

(14:20):
Indianapolis for a lot more money. So that's why you'd
want a one year deal, because at this point in time,
what's the point of signing a two year being locked
up with a team, especially especially considering it if Shane
Steichen and you know, Chris Baler to get to fired.
You know, now you're on a team that you have
no idea what the plans are of the next guy.

(14:41):
They're probably going to release him anyway, or even if
they keep him on, you might not want to be there.
You'd want more freedom with where you're able to pick
to go after that year. So it makes all the
sense in the world. My question is like, is it
enough of a financial commitment to say that, hey, Daniel
Jones is the guy like they brought him in to
either be depth or because he's an insurance policy that

(15:03):
you know, Anthony Richardson at some point is gonna get hurt.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
That's what we've seen in the past two years.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, and then beyond getting hurt, can Anthony Richson play
and be the quarterback they're hoping he's going to be,
Like it was a small sample size his rookie year,
but when you watch it, you're like, all right, Like
there's a lot of ability there. Last year when you
watched there are splash plays. But then there's like, all right,
now we're heading in the wrong direction here.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Does that tell you what Daniel Jones thinks about JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
It could.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
I mean that's a good point. I mean I would
say it's one of two things. There's probably that It
where his agents saying, hey, they want to go with JJ,
and if they don't go with JJ, it's gonna be
like an Aaron Rodgers, like that's the only exception. And
they might be saying too, like, also, they're not going
to give you fourteen million dollars to come in, like

(15:53):
they want JJ to be the guy. Whereas the Colts
are in a little bit different situation, like let's say
Anthony Richardson starts, if things aren't going well, they could
pull out the rug and say, look, we've got Daniel
Jones in here for a reason. He's experienced, and we
need to win games, and we think he's capable within
our system of winning games. So like, I can understand

(16:14):
why they're in Indy. I mean it's in need. I
mean you go for example, not to completely change topics,
but you look at Zach Wilson signing in Miami too,
is constantly miss games. Yeah, you need someone who is
going to be able to come in you feel good
about being able to operate the system win games. Now,
is Zach Wilson that guy?

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I don't know what.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
We'll find out, but like that's an important backup position.
You go across the league, there's a number of teams
you look at and say, we got to have a
guy if this isn't you know, the Patrick Mahomes or
Josh Allence or some of the quarterbacks you point to that.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Are consistently healthier out there.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
You know, there's gonna have to be a guy for
some of these teams because that quarterback gets injured. He's
just he's injury prone, and they've got to have some
who's in there as an insurance policy.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, it feels like beginning of the end for Indianapolis
as far as this run. But just you know what
Minnesota going to do well? I would say this, what
if what if JJ McCarthy isn't what he needs to be?
Is it fair to at least say, at the very
least when it's all said and done, Anthony Richardson did

(17:23):
offer up maybe the best throw we've seen in the
NFL in the last I mean ever.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
That throw was incredible. It was a Week one against
Houston last year off his back foot. He threw it
like seventy on a debt?

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Peers?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Who?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Like?

Speaker 7 (17:40):
You see that?

Speaker 5 (17:40):
You go?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
And then you know a few weeks later he took
a knee and opted out of a game. It's like, wait,
what what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (17:48):
But yeah, but in regards to Minnesota, it's a fair question,
you know, and is this could you describe it as
when doves cry?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh wow?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Would that be the proper I mean play?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That would be interesting? Yeah, clearly because of Prince's relationship
to a relation to Minnesota. So there you I mean,
could it be those out there that might not have
put that together?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You know?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
There you go? Could be purple right.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Unless you think Jaj McCarthy's got the look?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Oh wow? I mean do you got another one in you?
I bet you can.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
There could be some controversy oh wow, oh wow. Okay,
but again we could play that funky music in the
break and we'll figure it out another stuff.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Oh wow, Brady Quid.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, off top and bar off top. I'm in
shock right now. That was well done.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Can I can I say something that you're gonna be like,
all right, this doesn't make any sense. I never get it.
I got it, never understood it. I was not didn't
like the music. Nothing against Prince, but just like, was
not ever at any time in my life been like,
oh that's good music. I I look, we've we've talked.
I know, we've talked about your past. I'm not trying
to offend.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Has nothing to do with Look, I'm just saying music.
I loved his music. I love it. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Though, it was like I've never ever I mean, I
guess I remember obviously some of the songs, but I've
never enjoyed his music.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
You wouldn't like like that. You didn't like that song? No,
none of it, I thought you none of That's something
about it. He changed the way music was being done.
He definitely did, I know, a very different style of
how how he did music.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
I'm sure I'm gonna catch flak for this, but I'm
being honest with a friends fan, open and honest. I've
just yeah, there's some music I'm just like, I don't
get it. I mean, oh god, I don't want to
say this. Next name, but Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift like
there's not one song that comes on it's Taylor Swift
and I'm like, that's a good song.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Oh boy, Okay.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
I'm not trying to create. It's just I'm not you know,
it's not my my thing.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Wow, you're going to get it canceled. There it goes
to cancel. It was a good show. No, we're going
to our show is going to get canceled.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
Now, Swift, there's nothing wrong with Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
She's been super successful. It's just it's not my kind
of music.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, what do you mean your kind? I'd rather
listen to Ramstein, you know. Oh yeah, that's what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
Mine hurts.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I mean, I just there's just other genres of music.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I don't know Princes that that one's a hurt piece,
but you know, two chains or what. It's just I
just not get into the pop pop.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Think about Prince though, is that when you realize when
you get older upon further review, Oh, he may be
like the greatest all around musician of all times, of
all time, Like unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Nothing he couldn't do.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
He just chose to do it, whatever instrument, he just
chose to do it. However, he decided that day. Yeah,
so it's gonna be and did it with a ton
of other artists too, by the way, way Vanity, yeah
she lee that was the new power generation. Yeah, well,

(21:08):
who's the dude that dream saying the bird? Who is
that Moore's day? I mean he's like a bad man doc. Yeah,
but I get it. We all have our own, you know,
our own favorites.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
And I try to man, I'll listen to this on
it and be like, just ye can't get can't do it.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Prince is amazed. I won't do it. I gotta say
Prince is amazing, and he's like you gotta look at
him like it's weird. I know him if you saw
him in concert, because you try to figure out, like
why does he look like that? I don't know, he's
That's my forever memory of seeing Prince in concert, Like
and Jamie Fox messed it up because I want.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
You lock eyes with him?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Is this is this? What not lock eyes?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
You said you.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Locked eyes and then you were like I was close enough.
I was close enough. Now we were close enough? Said
you said you asked him what colonial was wearing? Did
I really? Yeah? I got selective memory loss on this one. Man,
I don't know. Okay, I don't love though.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
She just said, but your comment when you told this
story was you it's locked on my I don't know
that we lost, and then.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
You were just like unsure of a lot.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Of things of myself. I started questioning myself, you know,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
It was like it was just like if you were
your question like, why does you look like that?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
You were questioning.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Very I'm very manly in myself and very secure in myself.
So if I did have one of those questionable moments, hey,
just it was as it was as legit as it
legit gets.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Then, you know, Brady told me that you and Prince
were at a trough and you looked over and said nice, Rolex,
Oh yeah, is that true.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think you've really taken this totally out of the
you know, that's what if that was, we're officially off
the rail. That was misinformation. I apologize.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
First off, I mean credit to you forgiving Rolex the
free advertisement, which I can't picture Prince.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Wearing a Rolex I just I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I mean, I'm not picturing him wearing any type of watch.
I don't I don't know, like.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
The type of guy there, you know, you know, I
wasn't there, so I can't speak on it.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I just I thought it was a rolex.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
And also, Prince doesn't seem like the type of guy
that would go into a restaurant that has a trough,
Like I'm not sure what kind of venue this was,
but I just I can't. I can't see Prince Field.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
That way.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Restaurant though. That's the thing about Jonas, I don't.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't know where he had.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Were we in a barn?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I don't know where were we were just randomly in
the barn. More room for you.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Can I ask this question though, like when you walk
into a restaurant that has a trough, do you feel
like they've just completely given up on the bathroom. I
feel like it's they're saying a lot to you with
a trough, like we don't only clean this place.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
We yeah, not even there's like cakes that's just a
double ice in there.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Oh they do have I in them. They dn't ice
because it takes away from some of the smell. But
at that point you just go, yeah, they clearly don't.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Care about the bathrooms.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
If you have trough. Now it's just uh, like like
we went through COVID, where like if there was any
reason to abort the troth situation and for social distancing
or whatever, you would have thought like that would have.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Been the moment where they've been like, yeah, we probably haven't.
Shouldn't have guys shoulder to shoulder being into a trough.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's really weird, man, that's so disgusting.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
It's so disgusting.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
But think about it, like, logically, if you think about it,
like that would have been the time where everyone should
have mandated probably having to change over the troths to
individual journals.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean, think about how much money you save
on a trough as opposed to individual journals though.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
And think about this, Hey, Ray, Ray, you never have
to like deal with a trough Like you guys just
go in. You have your own individual space. You know,
we have to deal with the awkwardness of some guy
looking over and asking, hey, what type of watch is that?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah? I mean, have you ever been in a woman's
bathroom that doesn't have stalls? It's just seats. Aren't women's
bathroom dividers?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
They have never signs have never seen before. I mean,
think if you think about that, that's kind of messed up,
like why are we this? Why are we so devalued
where it's like, you know what about time, there's no
dividers needed necessary. Y'all just get in do what y'all
need to do. But but every single woman's bathroom, which

(25:26):
by the way, now, now what all these guys think
that they can identify with a woman's bathroom and go
in there? I mean, how does that even work? You
know what I mean? How does all that work?

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Now?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Because it's a very different configuration from bathroom to bathroom? Brady,
how does that work when doves craft?

Speaker 6 (25:47):
I don't know, they don't there's no bathrooms like that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Hmm. That's our cute. You gotta get out of here.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (26:10):
If we could have like a live cam on Brady
when that song is on that juke would be funny
as a hell. Could you imagine them playing out out
of golf outing like we go pull up and the
golfers are out there get warmed up, and they was
playing pop music at the Blue Jacket. That would be amazing.
It'd be something. It would be something, Oh my gosh,

(26:36):
what is this? What is this music that they're playing?
Is that even music? What? What is going on here?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
That is an idea you could do at the Blue
Jacket tournament on the sixth toll. You could do sticks
on the six, Sticks on to six and it would
be with music playing.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
LeVar Islands and poles, oh yeah, with people on them. Damn,
I'm bet you bow hole would be the most popping hole.
No pun Inton, we're going to We're going to Levar's hole.

(27:14):
You're still have the same numbers. Everybody's at the same hole,
all right.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
So that being said, we now transition smoothly over to
somebody who I don't know if they've ever been to
one of those establishments before.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
But Kirk Cousins. Oh I doubt we are on Kirk
Cousins watch.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It does look like he is going to be released
by the Atlanta Falcons, and if so, there is some
speculation on some landing spots for Kirk Cousins. Zach Jackson
of the fan in Cleveland says that the Browns may
add Kirk Cousins once he's released to reunite with Kevin Stefanski.

(27:56):
They're in Cleveland, obviously, they spiders together in Minnesota. They
just for Kenny Pickett, and so he had another move
that they've got to make because the quarterback they paid
all that money too, is no longer no longer active
for the next couple of months.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
So that's interesting though to think, like, you know, how
much cas space they have for Kirk unless they feel
like Kirk would do it for less.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
He would have to do it for less, right who
you don't want to pay him?

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Who?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
What leverage does Kirk Cousins have today to leverage any
of these teams.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Everything's working against them, you know, outside of the need
and maybe Kevin Stefanski advocating to Andrew Barry for him, like, hey,
he knows the system. I've got a good rapport with him.
But he's got his age working against him, obviously, some
of the injuries, his play last year, all those things

(28:47):
are working against him. And on top of that, his expense.
He's going to be more expensive most likely, at least
that's the assumption again, maybe he's willing to take a
discount to go there, and maybe that's that's where he's at.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Then the question becomes like Kirk.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Cousins has been I don't want to say selective, but
he's he's always made a decision that has been the
best financial decision for him. Maybe you'd say, also it's
kind of worked out from a destination standpoint, right, Like,
he got drafted, you can't control that, played under the

(29:23):
franchise tag.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
That was how it worked out.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
And then instead of going to the Jets, he chose
the Vikings, which I think we'd look at and say
they've been a better organization, and that worked out to
a degree. You know, they went to the playoffs, but
that was the end of that. And then he got
the opportunity to go into free agency signs with Atlanta Falcons,
which on paper last year I think you would have
said that's a good situation for a quarterback to go into.

(29:47):
At least that was my thought about it, right, A
winnable division, a roster with a ton of talent on it,
and they committed big money, felt like two years of
guarantees even though it somehow rolled into one. So I
just I kind of look at it and go, you know,
it's Cleveland that place. If he's not going to get
paid what he wants no, which is really what he's

(30:09):
always done, No, is he going to go there?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
No. To answer that question, if it's if it's if
the question is posed that way, I would say that
that's a definitive no, because how I mean, first of all,
you do know that Deshaun Watson is still there. You
do know that in the presence of Deshaun Watson is
going to be there, regardless of his participation on the field.

(30:35):
But it's also a very tough division to be in.
And if I'm not getting paid what I want to
get paid, why would I go into a division where
I'm clearly trying to catch up from behind with what
I'm doing here. I would think that Tennessee jump Tennessee
jumps out at me. And I gotta be honest, if

(30:59):
I were to go in to the AFC North, I
would want to do it with Pittsburgh, not Cleveland. And
I'm not saying that because I'm from Pittsburgh. I'm just
saying they just added DK Metcalf. I just think that
what they have offensively tools wise, their reputation and their

(31:19):
body of work and what they're able to do. They're
one of those teams that can beat Baltimore every year.
They're one of those teams that can beat Cincinnati every year.
They're one of those teams that can compete for AFC
North Crown every year. So to me, if I were
to do it, that would be one of the teams
that I would look for. And I'd say, Okay, if

(31:39):
I'm not going to get paid exactly what I would want,
I at least want to go to Pittsburgh because that
market and that team could yield me a good return
outside of outside of the pay. But Tennessee would be
number one on my list.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I would think he would prefer Cleveland just from the
familiarity standpoint.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
And there's got to be a large portion of him
though even if you're not getting paid, though he's already
been paid, and I think, but what if you're trying
to get paid again?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
But if we're talking about leverage and he doesn't have
any right now, he's also got to look at you know,
he's staring his own mortality in the eyes and be like,
all right, look Based on last year, the feeling is
that I'm washed, and I want to prove that I'm not.
So if it means I go to Cleveland, a place
I'm familiar with, an offense and a coach that I'm
familiar with, I'd rather do that than go to Pittsburgh,

(32:29):
who may offer me more money. And I've got to
try and figure out new surroundings, a new coach, potentially
a new system like all of that.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
But he's familiar. I know you're familiar with what Stefansk
he's going to do, and you're familiar with him, but
you still got to go into new digs Man. You
still got and that's in two years time, right like
you had to do that just you just had to
do that. Now you got to do it all over again.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
And also we've seen, as long as it's not Deshaun Watson,
we've seen several quarterbacks play pretty well under Kevin Stefanski
in Cleveland. And so if I was Kirk Cousins, I
look at him be like, man, I've made a ton
of money, Like this is about showing people I can
still do this, and I'll go take my chances, and

(33:16):
I'll take it with somebody that I know, and as
opposed to somebody, I don't know, that would be my thought.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Jerry Judy is the number one receiver for this team.
Will we all agree on that that's their biggest threat
at the receiver's position. Yes, yeah, And look I like
j I like Jerry Judy too, But if I'm looking
at the supporting cast, I don't, I don't. I mean,
I know, we like in Joe ku ik In Joeku, but.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
They are a hell of a running game. I mean
with day Chubb and really their stable of backs, Like
I do have a running game. I just I don't.
I don't trust it. I don't trust it in the North.
I don't trust it in the North. And and is
this like, is this next? You gotta believe this next
stop also probably marks the end in terms of Kirk Cousins.

(34:08):
If he does not do well, he's not going to
be looked at as a starter in his league.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Ever. Again, outside of extreme circumstances, he's not going to
get another opportunity to be a starter in this league.
So why not go to a place that you have
that familiarity.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
I would say this like from an offensive standpoint, and
I say this all the time. If you know the
verbiage of the system that makes the transition a little
bit easier. It doesn't make it like, oh, it's like
riding the bike, which, by the way, my daughter do.
She bid it so bad the other day and she
had like the training wheels on and stuff. And it

(34:46):
wasn't even like that. She just went down this hill
as he went too fast and I was like, yeah,
I'm like trying to chase her, and I'm like, you
gotta use the brakes, use the brakes, and she just panicked.
I completely forgot right there on a handle bar she
could use the brakes, didn't so fell off, laid there
like she was roadkill. We picked her up, duster off.
She was fine, and now we've called her roadkill for

(35:07):
the past two days.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's kind of crazy how kids can handle things like that. Yeah,
like I would be done if I fell off of
a bike. Oh my body would be so sore off
of a fall. Yeah, like I you can't, like I
can't bounce back like that doesn't have she I mean.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
It wasn't that vicious of a fall, but she caught
like a crack in the sidewalk where like there was
one like some one side was like uneven. So it's
just kind of unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And so you saw her go down. Oh dude, I
was chasing her yelling all right after you knew she
was okay? Did you laugh after I?

Speaker 6 (35:46):
I didn't laugh after it. It probably took a little
bit of time. But anyway, I don't want to get
too far off track, but I like that it's kind
of funny, like I wouldn't trust me. It's like, now
I got It's okay for me to laugh now that
I know that the problem was Like when I first
walked up, I was like, Okay, she's okay, but she.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Laid there like roadkill. I kind of said. I was like,
so later on, like that was my first thought of
my head.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I didn't say it to her, but then I thought
to myself, I'm gonna call a roadkill at some point
later on today.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
Which which one?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Was it? Which done? My six year old? Yeah? Yeah,
she's awesome.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Anyway. The point is is it's it's it's not like
riding a bike where you hop back on and you're
able to ride it much better than Teagan did, but
it helps. And that's at this point in time in
your you know, career, it's huge because when you go
to a different team. I can't emphasize this enough and
I played on a lot of different teams. One of

(36:45):
the hardest things that you take for granted, especially when
you're like you're in college and you you come in
with a recruiting class and you're playing and throwing the
guys that at least back then now it's a little
more transient, but but it's like you're kind of throwing
to the same guys and so you row and you
mature and you develop that chemistry together.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's really hard.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
In the NFL to develop that in one offseason. In
the pros, the off seasons are cut down. Now, guys
don't kind of work the same amount as they used to.
It's a little more cut down with that approach, so
you have a limited amount of time to develop that
chemistry with like their body language, and it's there's a
significant difference between how Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore, Cedric Tillman,

(37:28):
all those guys, David Bell, how all those guys come
in and out of their cuts, and in a league
where when you're a quarterback, you are throwing balls before
they're ever out of their cut into their cut to
a spot, like you have to know based on the
type of ball you need to throw, based on their pacing.
Some guys are way better getting in and out of cuts,

(37:49):
like Jerry Judy, for example, can roll his cuts extremely well.
He runs the way he's in kind of rolling the
outside of his feet and the way he's able to
juke guys and it starts stopability. It's very abrupt, and
so that's gonna be something that like Kirk Cousins, has
to get used to and like the smaller, like twitchy,
slack guys. Man, You've had some guys sometimes that they

(38:11):
were so good at being able to stop and then
start and accelerate that you kind of had to get
a feel for, like how far out in front don't
need to put this ball because a lot of it's anticipation,
Like you're you're watching him take off from the line
of scrimmage. He's going to set up that defender based
on his leverage, and so you're like, all right, he's
got inside leverage. I know he's going to break out.

(38:32):
But then it's a feeling with your feet and with
your motion and with his body language as to when
that's going to happen. And so that becomes a much
more complicated process than people realize to get down. And
when you're still thinking about how you call the play,
what the plays called, what the concept is, it becomes
a little bit dauncing. And so last year when I
was watching Kirk Cousins, who's coming off an injury, who's

(38:54):
going to you know, a team with a new system, right,
a first time play caller and Zach Robinson and all
these new PC's throwing too, It's like, well, yeah, there's
a lot of reasons why he could have struggled, and
he did struggle. And so you look at in Cleveland,
go ok, he's a year removed from the injury. That
should help, and it's a system that he knows that
should help. Now it just comes down to, like, can

(39:15):
he develop chemistry with these guys fast stuff if he's
if it is Cleveland, if he's going to be there,
and that gives them, I think, to Jonas's point, a
little bit better chance of having the success that he's
hoping for.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I just think that going to Cleveland is super, super,
super risky for Kirk Cousins. I get all of that,
and maybe he does have a better opportunity of being
successful in Cleveland because of the elements of awareness and

(39:48):
understanding of the verbiage and the familiarity of the coach.
I just I think that that's a tough situation to
go into if I'm Kirk Cousins, I really do.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Granted, they they did win with with Who's My Guy Flacco?
They did win with Flacco, and they had somewhat they
had a little bit of whack. I mean, if Kirk
Cousins believes he can go in there and this is
in that sense the same type of team that that
Flaco was winning with, if he feels as though he

(40:24):
can go in and be that guy, then maybe this
is a big move and and the boom of it
is really worth it. I mean, that's very possible. I
just think that if I'm going to go take a
chance right now, and maybe maybe I've talked myself out

(40:45):
of it, but I would just think that Tennessee would
make the most sense. I think Tennessee would make the
most sense because he has the opportunity to play against
teams that aren't as competitive as the teams in the AFC.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
More can I also say this, like, if you're looking
for a veteran guy, are they just out on Jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I don't get this. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Oh, I mean, who's kicking the tires on him? I
saw there were two teams that were thinking.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
So fun we ever mentioned his name. I just I don't.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
I mean, I feel like he's loved in locker rooms.
He's look, I understand everyone's going to make all these
there's new thirty some picks.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Like, I mean, there was a lot of pushing the
ball down the field. Probably half those are on him,
half are on a combination of other things. But he
also led the league in passing that year. He also
threw every thirty touchdown passes.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Like he's forty nine Ers and Chargers have interested in
Jamis reportedly.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Which makes complete sense one but two, Like he's got ability.
I don't know why a team that had him last
year excuse me, and like they just want to move on,
like con Newity's good in some lights in some ways.
And I just I don't understand why there's not a
desire from both parties on that. I mean, he would
be a cheaper option than Cousins.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Uh, you guys want to play a little game. Here,
a little game. All right, here's the game. How much
has Kirk Cousins made.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
In his This is the most ridiculous number.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
It's like, yeah, yeah, all right, So here we go.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
We've got a we've got a live studio band that
is with us here on Fox Sports Radio there.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
And for some reason we've got issues with the well
you know, it's spinal we don't have it. It's spinaly.
My back is broken, bad bad news. Beer says, I
need a Becky out of me.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah, all right, So I just pretend that there's game
show music playing and we are off and running. All right,
So here we go. Kirk Cousins career earnings up to
this point. All right, So career earnings, Brady Quay, you
can go first.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
Here, we've we've last year. It's like two hundred and eighty.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Five million or some ridiculous amount.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
LeVar Arrington. I mean, I'm going with you. We've already
had this discussion. We'll go ahead. Let's what's your number?
To eighty five point one?

Speaker 5 (43:11):
All right?

Speaker 7 (43:12):
So Brady, oh what is that price?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Is? Right? Oh? You would, yeah, you would, Ladies and
gentlemen nowhere to playing that game. Yeah, LeVar Arrington. You
are correct.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Two hundred and ninety four million, one hundred sixty nine thousand.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
He's right there, like knocking that three hundred Hall of.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
Fame by the way, Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Had he halimpleted his contract with the Atlanta Falcons at
the end of it all, he would have made just
over four hundred and eleven million dollars in his NFL.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
In the business of football, Kirkus, can you make it
in first ballot? Can you make it in for it
should be a win first ballot? I mean, why don't
you have to be a wing if you're If you
make it into the Hall of Fame for being extraordinary
and exceptional, who else can say that they've done that?

Speaker 6 (43:57):
It's a I mean, he's played a lot of games
though it's not like you can use the efficiency argument.
But there are certain guys who are also in the
Hall of Fame in the Business of football who have
put as minimal as possible but made large amounts of money.
And that is that's a that's accomplishment, Like that's it
a feat If you can figure out a way of
making millions upon millions of dollars and doing less. That

(44:19):
is a man who knows efficiency and that is what
this country is all about. Productivity, but efficiency too. So
Kirk Cousins is you can make the case he's he's
in that category. Like for many of the naysayers who
are like, ah, you know, he's hasn't done as much
in the playoffs and all that, It's like, yeah, he hasn't.
And guess what, he's still made two hundred and ninety
four million dollars about them apples?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Hard bob for them apples?

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Did they still do bobbing for apples? Is that like
considered to be still socially correct? It's probably incorrect.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Want me to bring this full circle. Yeah, they still
do in the troths.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
That's what they do. They are in troughs. Yeah, yeap,
Like not that you think about it, don't you feel
like that? I think moding to go bobbing for app
because most people realize like, oh, they're filling up their
bathtub to go bob for apples. And then you got
all these different mouths going in there and.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
And stuff, and meanwhile Jonas was just in there bathing himself.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I would just make sure, I mean, if we do it,
I have to be first. If I can go first,
then I'm not again. You're going after Jonas just took
a bathroom. If I would put my face in there
with other people, I make sure I want to go first,
for I got for you.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I'm not there for the apples with my veneers not happening.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Oh god, hey man, I just want to go first,
like that's all. If I if I'm opening my mouth,
then water is going in my mouth, and I just
don't want to be the one that's doing the recycled water.
I want. I want to go first. You got me blood,
I got you up top top I can get.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of Toro Is In
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Speaker 3 (46:08):
So we mentioned it's a Wednesday, and that can only
mean one thing. A tradition on this show, A tradition
on like any other that you hear on sports radio.
He's the one, He's the only Petros Papadakis. He is
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seven
e LA Sports Fox college football analyst, and you can

(46:29):
get him on X at.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
The old pe Petros.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Good morning, Hello, good morning to everybody.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Hello, Hello, Hello, looking forward to double dipping with you today.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
P Yes, I appreciate your help. I need some help today.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
No, we'll have some. We'll have some nice. Is that
like looking like that's going to become like a permanent thing,
or like you know, you're you're looking at the other
time slot.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
You know, I don't know what he's I don't know
what he's doing. The show before us doesn't like to
work that much. Oh oh, my partner every year does
the Big Ten Tournament for Compass Media, and so does
my radio producer. So yeah, I'm like Gene Hackman's lifeless body.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
All geez, can.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
We talk about that? By the way, too soon? I mean,
the details of that whole thing are crazy, didn't she him?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Yes, So if you have elderly parents or a step
mom and an elderly dad, or vice versa, you might
want to check on him, you know, three or four
every three.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Or four days.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Anyway, I mean, okay, you want to talk more about it,
that's fine. I just kind of rat rat disease that
happened to her and and he just died and then
the doe.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
But was he wasn't he like walking around the house
with her dead inside?

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Well, yeah, because he had late dementia or all time. Anyway,
they leave me alone in the house like a dog
in the house chasing its tail. Leave you alone, well
they jo Yeah, so I mean, and if the show's
one hour or something, I can do it by him.
Actually I could do it by myself either way. But

(48:10):
they're bringing in Jonas today to help me out. But
the rest of the work he's doing this week has
nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Well, speaking of death, Petros, I saw this earlier. Coco
Tea passed away.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
The Yeah, Coco t was a great singer. I saw
him once in Long Beach. Now, Long Beach used to
have a every February for Bob Marley's birthday, or for
the month of Bob Marley's birthday. They would have a
reggae festival called Bob Marley Day in Long Beach at

(48:47):
the Long Beach Arena, you know, the one with the
if you've seen it in Long Beach has all the
whales painted on it like that Wiland guy painted it.
So anyway, Coco Tea was a great singer, and that
used to be the coolest reggae show because they got
real Jamaican acts. Now, I'd say ninety of the reggae

(49:08):
quote unquote festivals in southern California consists of white guy
reggae bands, all right, with names like you know, yeah
that's Coco t.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Is.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Go Home to your Nana with boujiu bontan I haven't
I had? You're too young to be my lover, girl,
won't you go home? Go home to your nana. You're nana,
Go home to your nana. Yeah, you're nana. You're too
young to be my lover. If you're to be my lover,
oh you must be eighteen and over.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yah r Kelly went and singing that dumb lyrics. Oh geez.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Probably in the rest of mon Coco Tea had a
beautiful voice. He was a redlock. He died. He died
at a sixty five of cancer. But if you're interested
in a real smooth reggae singer, Coco t was a
beautiful singer.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Uh the Good Life is a really great song by
Coco Ta many many and uh it's really I saw
that A bunch of people kept texting me during the
show pictures of Coco t and all that, and I
figured the worst that he had passed, and it is
that is the case. So there's a little reggae news
for you. That song go Home to Your Nana has

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a version with Boji Bonton.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Oh yeah, which is very good Bojubon. Uh speaking of beautiful? Uh,
how do you feel about this, this women's Big ten
NCAA championship run here going on? I mean how you
feel about that? Usc U c l A. You know,
La did what I needed to do. I haven't thought

(50:55):
much about it, all right, I was just curious. I mean,
the guys were taking shots.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Have you Have you thought much about it, LaVar?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah? Well I saw that they come into the Big
ten and and are doing well in the basketball are
U c l A? There you go?

Speaker 5 (51:12):
And their coach Corey close? Uh? It is It is
kind of funny because you know, women's basketball or whatever
you think is the reason it has made a push.
It's it's Caitlin Clark, I think. But Juju Smith is
a great player.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
She is a spectacular players. Excuse me, yeah, Juju Watkins,
Juju Smith is a different USC guy.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Uh, and uh, we know what you meant.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
I just, uh, yeah, that shows you how much I
pay attention. I know more about jujus anger toward her
nil car and how it's not good enough than I
do about her actual play on the court. But I
am I am aware that she is a spectator. Bill
Plashke came on our radio shi and said she's a
combination of Lebron, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, John Stockton, you know,

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so it's saying, yeah, I mean, you really upsold her.
So it is interesting because everybody talks about the Big
Ten and oh my god, no one's gonna be able
to compete. You know, how can you take these trips
and USC and UCLA in the first year in the
Big Ten go out and play for the championship. Obviously
not the case for the men's but UCLA's got a

(52:32):
pretty good chance in the Big Ten tournament for the
men just in the fact that they don't have to
play those early games. They got the buy early, they
don't have to play till Friday morning. So I think
both the USC and UCLA did okay in the basketball
men's and women's football. So it's like yeah, And then
then you look at Oregon in basketball, they're they're on

(52:54):
a hot run. Dana Altman's a great coach. You know,
they're doing fine. So a lot of that is a
lot of just bloviation in the off season for something
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Not so much in wrestling though, p You know.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
No, no, the the wrestling is still held pretty firmly
through the states of like Iowa, Wisconsin, the.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Dakota's Pensyl Pensylvan in the great state of Pennsylvan.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
You I was gonna say, I mean, Petros, did you
grow up wrestling? I mean, were you a wrestling kind
of gallon?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
You're young?

Speaker 5 (53:22):
No, but we had a wrestling team, you know. I mean,
I have issues, but I don't think spending the football
off season with my face in some guy's ass. I
was dang, you know. But but that being said, what
that was my thought about it when I was a kid,
Like your face, That's just what it looked like to me.
They just had there, they were like sitting there like

(53:44):
just you know, my face is like wedged in your
crotch or your ass or you know, I am straddling
you know. Then they blow the whistle and I just
ate a bunch of honey, and you know the weird
cutting weight and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
But so you know about the honey, Oh yeah, I
know about all of it.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
But that I mean, gosh, I love the movie Vision
Quest and all that different stuff. But that being said,
I don't like it. Just didn't appeal to me. But
now as an older man, I realize, like, if you
want leverage in a real fight, if you want skills
to move people for the rest of your life, that

(54:23):
high school and college real single it wearing wrestling is
really what it is. I mean, that's where you really
learn to grapple and do all those things. And those
guys could usually win any fight because of their skills
that they learned when they're young, but those skills to
have a face and some hairy ass were not. I

(54:44):
did not want them.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I will not fartake. I don't want it to see.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Those guys running around and getting all, you know, weird.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Anyway, Petros did the uh did the Celtics ruin.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
The what's it called? Is in the college rest? Sorry Jonas,
no college wrestling. I don't care about the Celtics. The
college Wrestling Hall of Fame is in Oklahoma State is
in Stillwater.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
You can visit us. And it's a bunch of pictures,
a bunch of guys with their faces in each other's ass.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
It's like a human seen.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
I'm sorry, you're asking about the Celtics.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Well, no, I'm just saying, did they ruin the great
momentum that the Lakers had found the other night? Now
Lebron's injured, he's out for a little bit. Now, JJ
Reddick looks stressed out injury.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Yeah, it is interesting, you know. And I was just
thinking about pendulum swings in the world of sports, and
we have our twenty four hour sports media that we
react to everything in such a way. And it's interesting
because I remember, just I'm old enough to remember five
days ago when it came to the Lakers or six

(55:57):
days ago, and Lebron was gonna win the MVP over
Sega and Djokich, The Lakers were going to win the title.
Dallas was going to burn to the ground over NBA misfortune,
which still might happen, And all of a sudden, Lebron

(56:21):
pulls is growing. The Celtics win the game, they turn
around and lose to the terrible Brooklyn nets, Luca looks
a little lethargic even though he has a triple double
and all the talk has dissipated. I mean, we interviewed
Dave Roberts on the show yesterday, the Dodger manager, not
Juju Smith or Juju Watkins, Dave Roberts, also known as

(56:44):
Doc or the Skipper of the Dodgers. I like to
just call him Dave because I mean, my proclivity is
to call every guy coach, and you can't call the
baseball manager coach. That's a real snaff woo. So you
have to call him skipper if you want, but he's
not my skipper. I don't play on that team, so

(57:04):
that's a little odd.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
By the way, does that version Does that conversion happen
at the pro level, because I mean they're technically.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Yeah, at the program, still a coach.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Yeah until after until college.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
In high school and in college you are the baseball coach. Uh,
maybe it's still not you say you're the baseball coach,
but I believe that it's still not kosher to call
them coach in an interview, or I don't think the
players would call them coach. If that's a If that's helpful,
but baseball culture is very odd anyway. Uh, just an

(57:39):
example about how quickly the Lakers thing went away, not
that they're totally going to go away. And Lebron's always
a story and apparently, you know, five out of the
last six marches he's missed and gone to Germany to
get some special Kobe Bryant shot or something and come back.
But uh, but like Dave Roberts in the in the
playoffs last year with the Padres, his back was against

(58:04):
the wall and his d was in the dust. And
if the Dodgers lost, he was gonna get fired right back.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
To the wall because in the dust, the dust to
dust to dust. Hey, you think you would have been fired?

Speaker 5 (58:19):
I mean another playoff implosion against UH division rival that
you dominated throughout the season. If they had lost to
the Padres when the Padres had their back against the wall,
I wouldn't have been surprised if they had pulled the trigger.
And then next thing you know, they turn around and
they win the World Series. They have a parade. It's

(58:40):
the most celebratory sports time in Los Angeles history that
I can ever remember. Because the Dodgers are a great
equalizer in Los Angeles sports I mean, it was an
absolute orgy in town and it continues to be with
their signings and all the money they're making with these
Japanese players. And just think about that pendulum swing. I mean,

(59:04):
Dave Roberts went from within the span of three or
four days or a week and a half ends up
from being fired to being a Hall of Fame manager
and a guy who's won two World Series and now
they're heavily favored to win in twenty twenty five, and
that'll be the first back to back World Series winner

(59:25):
since ninety nine two thousand, since the last century. So
it's pretty impressive and it is pretty interesting, and I
don't think it's just la where it happens, but because
we have such a heavy media market and influence, and
the Lakers are talked about ad nauseum and people are
finally discussing that about what a national radio travesty the

(59:45):
Lakers and Cowboys are for national TV and radio. But
it's just very interesting how quickly that changed, and it
changed really quickly as far as the positivity and the
Lakers story. I mean, it led everything for the two
three weeks that they were doing it, and now Lebron's out,
you know, somewhere getting a blood transfusion, and Luca looks

(01:00:10):
fat and they just lost to a terrible team. They're
on a trip, and I mean, they're gonna be in
the playoffs and it'll be interesting and exciting, I'm sure.
But it's certainly not the Chicago fire of a story
that it was a week ago.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Yeah, Petros want to switch gears a little bit after
approaching spring. It sounds like Petro's there's a lot of
positive momentum there is Southern Cow. It sounds like with
the staff changes, the recruiting everything, it sounds like it's
kind of I guess boarding the hype train for Southern Cow.
Is that your impression of the Trojans heading into twenty

(01:00:46):
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
When you have an off season hype train and you're
about a five hundred team during the season, it does
beg to beg the question if you're throwing off season
party's you're not throwing in season party Like that's kind
of That's sort of been the trend and the one

(01:01:08):
thing us he has done differently, Brady, and it's a
very modern college football thing, and it's your guy, the
guy from Notre Dame and maybe you probably have more
perspective on it, and I certainly don't want to get
in a fight about it. But that Boden guy. At first,
when you saw his name Bowden spelled, you thought it
was Bobby Bowden's grandson.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
His name is it's actually Jim Bowden's son.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Yeah, Jim Bowden, the Reds guy who's a longtime radio contributor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
And I think he works at serious MLB now did
a show it on FSR here on the weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
I had a nice guy, right, Like I really liked
Jim Bowden. I always thought he was really interesting. Not
everybody liked him, but I liked him. And his son
became a really really prevalent football administrator GM type at Cincinnati,
of course, where they're from, and then to Notre Dame
where he helped Marcus Friedman build that team. Like I guess,

(01:02:04):
and I mean I don't know the details.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
Well that's what they've sold you guys on yes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Yeah, Well now he's having he's here, and whether he's
selling people on it or not, he's certainly saying all
the right things, and he's saying things that Lincoln Riley.
He's saying things that Lincoln Riley kind of has been
deficient on right. He talked about how important it is
for USC. Look, there's only two paths, and it's the same.

(01:02:30):
You have to be on both paths if you need
to have success. If you're going to have success at USC,
you need to recruit the area with absolute relentlessness and
dominate the area in recruiting because that's their formula for success,
and you need to develop those recruits, especially on your

(01:02:51):
defensive and offensive line. It's not rocket science. We've talked
about it in a long time, and that's what Boden
has been talking about, talking about being a bigger presence
in the southern California recruiting scene and football scene, which
is not at all what Lincoln Riley was doing. Was

(01:03:11):
he was concentrating on Texas and Georgia. And it's great
to have national recruits at USC. Plenty of great recruits
they've had have come from from other states far from
the West, but that is not their formula for success.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
And why I mean Lincoln Rileson paid a lot of
money and ultimately I mean forget the GM recruiting guy whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Like players.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
That's the positive offseason New Well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
No, I guess yeah, I get that. What I'm asking
is because you're bringing up the point that like Lincoln Riley,
for whatever reason, didn't take that approach when he took.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
The job, which not only that he leaked to Cowherd
to sit there and say that LA and California players
aren't good anymore, which.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Which doesn't make any sense, because I like any head
coach that takes that job is taking it for the
fact that he probably doesn't have to leave the state
to get the players that he needs.

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
I feel what you're saying, Brady. I mean, it's very
it's problematic that us he needs to hire.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
A guy to then tell him that, like you can't
hire a consulting agency or someone to give you pay
them one hundred thousand to come up with a big
PowerPoint presentation. Go hey, by the way, there's a lot
of talent here in southern California. You can just recruit
these guys. Look at his job.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Yeah, they're getting them, and his job is to fill
the gaps this guy, and I think it speaks to
the point that overall that you'd probably want to make Brady,
is Lincoln Riley's been deficient at USC. He's gotten worse
every year. Worse than that, he hasn't endeared himself to
the fan base or the culture and tradition of the place,

(01:04:54):
And you have to admit the place has that and
there's a way to do it, and he not done it.
And it's one hundred million dollar buyout. So they've got
to fix the yard around the rotten house to make
it look presentable, and that seems to be what they're doing.
Does that mean they can't have success. I don't know,

(01:05:14):
but yeah, it's going to take a lot of convincing
for me to say Lincoln Riley's a great fit at
USC and that it's not a higher that they regret. Today,
I would say that that's a pretty strong Yes, it's
a higher that they regret. But the off season hype
train that you alluded to is because of this GM guy,
because I don't think they're athletic director Jen Cohen has

(01:05:37):
the power or the juice, or the ability or the
support to fire Lincoln Riley or the finances to do it.
And this is just something to help bolster a message
that should have been spread years ago about USC football.
It should have never ended that you need to recruit locally,

(01:05:58):
you need to build a fence around the lineman locally
and don't let him go to Oregon and Washington. It'd
be developed by freaking Dan Lanning and Kaitlin de boor,
for God's sake, now, they're not going to go play
for fish, please, you don't think not the lineman. This
guy Brady Smigel might. But it is interesting, like USC

(01:06:18):
maybe the top three, three or four of the top
ten recruits in California now are committed to SC They've
got sixteen guys in this class who are LA guys.
So it seems like a little bit of a vibe shift.
Will it be enough for the whole culture of the
program to compete with the Irish, the great Notre Dame
Fighting Irish With Chad Bowden left for whatever reason, I

(01:06:41):
do not know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yeah, that's unfortunate. Well, Petro, so we do know this.
We're happy to have you every single week. It's gonna
you get to talk to him a little later. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
oh yeah, you got.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
A two hour jaunt around the Los Angeles sports landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
By the way, I got dead guy of the day,
just letting you know. Yeah, I know, So who drives
the show? Petro doesn't want to go much more detail
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
No, no, I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Does Jonas drive the show or do you drive the show,
Petro Petros? Does he his show? Petros? Was that a
segment where you just look up in the obituaries to see, like,
what dead guy you're reading about?

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
No, No, it's more of a history. I've done it since.
I mean I've done it for twenty plus years. I
mean history is made up of people, right, So you
find a person that's dead that was born today, and
you write a little story about them, you know, two
three minutes about what they accomplished or whatever. You find
somebody that's alive that was born today, you tell a

(01:07:43):
story about them, and that's your dead and alive guy
birt to today.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
There you go, yeap, Petro. So we will do it
again next week. I'll talk to you later today. We
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, I don't look it up.

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
He's on the hype train's choo choo. He's right next.
He's not the caboosett on the train. He's with the conductor.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
He's a front train. Me and Chad bowed and and
his dad. Your face and in his ass as human
centipede with the honey to the Big ten title. Dang
almost whatever. The Corona Wolf