March 13, 2025 • 50 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers fight for the best spot remaining. Josh Allen gives the Bills a discount but will they make the best of it? And NFL Insider Albert Breer, talks about the biggest names on the market.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Lamar airings and rating wind and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
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the rain, slow down, jesus.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Unless you're me and you're from the East coast. People
are flying, man, they do not care. Do not hit
your gas when you hydro plane.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Some guy just warred into a guardrail as I was
driving in so hopefully things work out. A cop it
just arrived, so enjoy that. But you know, tire Rack
is here to help everybody in these difficult conditions.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Is this one of those moments where you guys complain
about the driving in the rain, that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
People out here act like it's hard to do, just admiring.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Meanwhile, the rest of the country drives to sleet and
ice and blacknow and all those tough I mean, just
come on, does not have a comparison.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's not. I'll be the first one to tell you,
but I will say this. I did almost turn around
and go back home just because just because I know
people do use that as an excuse in California. There
you go. Shit, I almost sand around and went back home.
You softened up. No, I really, haven't you ate dope?
Don't you softened up? I drove like I drove a
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hydro plane twice on my way in twice. What do
you what do you drive? Don't you have four well drive? Yeah? Yeah,
I got a defender. But but but the point is
that it doesn't. It don't bother me. I am a
big mic taught me how to drive. We went, We
went into North Hill, the North Hills Indian. Come on, shutting.
(01:47):
You know what I'm saying, shutting? Hey man, they took
me at North Hills parking lot. Bride drove in all
all terrain, all weather. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I'm saying shutting. I don't call you shutting your you're
my son. I call you son because you shine like one. Anyway, Well, hey, h's.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We are still playing the waiting game, as are the
Pittsburgh Steelers on who's going to be their quarterback moving forward? Uh,
free agency, I mean the real juicy stuff for free
agency seem to have all been filled out and good
and dead and buried, and everybody's off and running and
having press conferences, and yet still just kind of waiting
around Rogers mulling over his decision.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Russell Wilson waiting to see Rogers does why are you
waiting Russ? Uh? I just gotta wait to see what
Aaron's going to do. I say, what a what a
humbling couple of years for him?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Man. Hang, He's like, he is, hey, well we'll take
him if if the other guy says you know that
that he's going to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Dude. When now he was like, you're such a hater
room for what you said about Russ and the love
is blind? I was like, how am I wrong for that?
Basically he wants this, but you can't have that. You're
not good enough to just have a starting job, like
wherever you want. You gotta wait to see who Who's like, well,
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we'll take Russ. That's what you're waiting on. It's not
the most horrible thing when you're talking about, Okay, if
it's Aaron Rodgers that you're doing the comparison to. At
this point in Aaron Rodgers' career, do we know how
much is out of the toothpaste too?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We don't. Do we know how much is left? No
we don't. We just know he's Aaron Rodgers. That's what
we know, and that's still right now for the moment,
based upon how he played finished out the season last year.
I think it's still enough to say that the intrigue
is there for him to be a good player for
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somebody's team, and more so than Russell Wilson. I don't
think that should be offending like offensive now, I will
say what's offensive is the Jets took too justin fields
and they were with field they did they not come
to the Russell offer offer Russell, No, we take Justin.
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It's like getting picked in the yard for for a
pickup game, like uh uh pick pick pick me, Uh
we take Justin. Was there ever any interest though in
the Jets and Russell Wilson did I don't think it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, I'm just saying I don't think at any point
there's been interest on either side.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know if I know, I don't have a job.
I'm interesting. Russe's agent calls the Jets like, hey, what
about Russ?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Hey hello, you guys have to understand this though, too.
How much did Russell Wilson play for last year?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Like it was he got his from Yeah, they he's
it was really closer to like almost forty million, Yeah,
and the Steelers were on the hook for what like two.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
How much of the Jets pay Justin Fields, I mean
twenty now laters, they paid him like and I think
twenty per year at least under this contract. So there
might have also been a thought of, like, Russell Wilson's
got a price wants to pay for and Jonas you've
detailed this, like, he has not played bad. I mean,
he gave their offensive lift at least initially last year
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in Pittsburgh. He didn't play bad as last year in
Denver despite all those circumstances with Sean Payton, who I
mean really didn't didn't like him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He didn't like him, He did not like them.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That's more of the concern that I think there is
in regards to like, why is it that more teams
aren't in on Russell Wilson. I mean, Cleveland's absously, you know,
making sure that maybe he's a potential option for them,
But I just don't think there's enough cash space or room.
But when you look at the past couple of stops
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he's had, there's reports at the end of last year
he was rubbing Arthur Smith the wrong way, and or
maybe they butted heads a little bit in regards to
the offense at the end of the year when they
started to struggle. Then you go back to the Denver
Broncos and for whatever reason, I mean him and Sean Payton.
It is just like Sean Payton, I guess put up
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with it for a year, but there is something going.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
On there Brook. He loves Seattle. If Russell Wilson told
me to say run past to me on the sideline,
I'd be like, bitch, get out of my face.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So that's part of what I think is interesting about
out the quarterback musical chairs is if you've got Rogers,
Wilson's Cousins, how do you think teams are ranking those three?
Even though Cousins hasn't been released, it looks like they're
going to pay his ten million dollars bonus and potentially
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be an expensive backup if they can't find a trade
for him. But let's say, let's just say that Cousins
is a part of that mix. Now, what was his injury,
Kirk Cousins. Yeah, well he was coming off an achilles
He's he just got benched. He just got he wasn't
an injury that he got well, he he got the yips,
he started, he started turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He got banged up in a game against right he
got hit. Yeah, and and he never was quite the same,
and he tried to downplay it. And then the Saints
acknowledged after the season, yeah, or the Falcons acknowledged after
the season.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He wasn't really the same afterwards, and that sort of
led to, you know, the decline.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But listen, boy, Yeah, I don't know that he was
lighting on a fire either way. But Cousins is intriguing
because for some reason he seems to be a serviceable
option and a very safe seemingly a very safe option
in terms of personality, locker room integration. He just seems
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like he would be the type of guy you on
in your locker room russe. He's the number one guy
you're looking at. I think if again, I think it's
by by Market. Who's left? Who's left? Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,
New York, The Giants, the Giants. If I'm the Giants,
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I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first. If I'm the Steelers,
I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first. Hell, if I'm Tennessee,
I'm probably looking at Aaron Rodgers is probably first. Now
I think it's debatable for second. I think it's debatable
for second, And I think that that debatable would come
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down to are we willing to have a meet and
greet with with these two guys. I would be very
cautious of hiring a quarterback that is now seeing himself
or doesn't want to get hit and is making mistakes
off of being nervous in pocket, being nervous by the
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past rush, feeling that pressure. I would be more nervous
about that than I would be the personality traits. I'd
rather take a more abrasive or or whatever you want
to call whatever you would want to call it, personality
traits wise, I'd be more willing to deal with a
wild card personality wise than a guy that isn't isn't
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willing to take a hit anymore. Who's got more left? Like?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Who do you see playing longer? Rogers or Russell Wilson?
Like to me, I think Rusk plays longer if he
gets the opportunity. And Rogers has been open about the
fact that, hey, listen, you know, maybe last year would
have been his final year. He decided he wanted to
come back but you know, in all likelihood, this year
looks like it might be his final year, depending on
how the season goes. Russ feels like he wants to
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play longer. And it's thirty six too, Yeah, and there's
five years of difference. And to what you were saying, also,
like how many guys leave on bad terms three straight times?
And then it's like, I don't worry about it, give
him another shot, Like it just there is at some
point it's not well it was Seattle, or while it
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was Denver, or while it was Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
There there's gotta be a.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Feeling around the league that Russell Wilson's just a pain
in the ass. Like there's gotta be because there's no
other explanation as to why he's sitting around waiting to
see whether or not Rogers wants to play again.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who it's for? And I'll take whatever's Like, you know,
being a pain and an ass part is when you
don't know you're a pain in the ass. That's one
in self awareness. That's when it's the worst. I would
assume I've never met Russell Wilson, so I don't want
to judge him. He just comes across as the type
of dude that doesn't know that he rubs you the
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wrong way because in his mind he's like, really a
good dude. He seems like a nice guy. Probably is
a good dude.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, and I'll say it again, for the times I've
been around them, I think what happens and there's there's
people who do this and they're like this, you know,
Tim Tebow was like that where I mean, I think
that probably is more the penunciation.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They're really tibo. I don't know, but I don't give
a I thought it was funny the way you said it.
So good. Let's stay with Tobo.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We refer to him in that Tim Tebow he was
one of those people too that I think, you know,
probably lacked a little bit of an understanding of you know,
some of the way he tried to play quarterback, the
way he tried to be a teammate, it rubbed some
guys the wrong way. Now, the reality is some guys
don't care because they are who they are and they're
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genuine in that. I think Russell is similar in that sense,
where there's people who watch him operator watching them around him,
they're like, may this feels fake or he can't be
like this all the times, Like, but yeah, he is.
I mean, there's people and this is what I've learned,
Like the older I've gotten is there's just people in
life who our characters.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Man. I mean, like, for example, we have on Pete Prisco.
You know, he's a character, Like like.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
People people think that he comes on our radio show
on Tuesdays and how he acts as like a stick
or for radio or something.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That is how he is.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It doesn't matter if I was in studio with him
and we walk right outside, He'll be giving it to
the Italian restaurant that he ate the night before and
why I was overpriced that it should have been this much,
and what they did wrong with whatever it was, or
he hated the Kenolas at the end, it's it's like
that's just who he is. He's a character. There are
plenty of guys that I've been tim Brando is one
of the funniest human beings I've ever been around, and
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and he is who he is, Like like Timmy Bee
is a good dude. He's got a warm heart, and
people be like, man is that guy? Like yeah, Like
like Timmy, He's just a character. So I've found that
out more in life where I think there's some people
who just feel convicted and who they are in some
cases like who's God God's called them to be or
who they are is a leader or player, and they
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don't want to change that, Like they're like, this is
who I am and maybe they can't change that or
they don't want to.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But I would say the thing you brought.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Up, LeVar, and when we talk about like rubbing people
the wrong way, I think it's just more of a
like people don't feel like it's genuine.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think that's more of the that's more of the
sentiment that I.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Think players, you know, felt like maybe a little bit
in Seattle during the short stint I was there, or
even whether it was with Tibou or whoever else, like
you get a sense of like, oh, they don't feel
like that's really who they are now. I would argue
that some of the people I've been around, like whether
it's Tim or it's Russell, like yeah, they are like
that's how they are, That's just who they are, and
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it's hard for other people to accept it because they
don't live their lives the same way. So to your point, like,
I think that's where the conflict comes is like, maybe
they don't always adhere to all the social norms. Maybe
they don't always you know, do all the same things
off the field, or do all the things the same
things in the building. However they operate and it rubs
guys the wrong way. So like my thing is like,
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I'm I don't really care. At the end of the day,
everyone's you know, pushing together to go try to win
and be successful. But it is interesting now that from
Seattle to Denver to you know, you know, obviously his
past year in Pittsburgh, it's like, for some reason, there's
something that's happening that is causing him not to be
a guy that who's won a Super Bowl, bended to
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has played at a really high level, and even the
past couple of years gave a lift to Pittsburgh, didn't
play that bad in Denver. Like you go back and
look at You're, like, man, it's it's kind of interesting
how it just it's rubbed some people the wrong way
for some reason. And again it doesn't make a lot
of sense. I'm not exactly sure what it is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But I'm also I also haven't been around him in
a long time, so you were you around him when
he was married.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yes, yes, I mean he came to my wedding like
we were you know, I remember talking to him about
when things were, you know, he was gonna get a
divorce Like it's.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh no, no, the second marriage, no not. And that's
the thing is like, well, yeah, I'm not not at
that point. I mean, that could have changed all of us.
I mean, I'm not going to sit there and tell
tell him he's wrong for feeling the way he feels
in life right now, exonerated in all charge. I just said,
I ain't gonna hold him accountable if he guilty. If
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I got her hyping me up every morning, I might
come across the tack. I might come across the tack
bit confident and abrasive to a lot of people. My goodies,
my goodie, my goodies good I mean, And she's willing
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to do drills at the White House. Bruh. She took
her heels off, and she let her man hand the
ball off to him, and she went through them, those
those tackle dummies. And I'm just saying, I'm just saying
I would be hyped up two. I would be pumped
up two, that's all say. And you know what, and
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I don't care if you don't like me as long
as my family does. I mean, you ain't gonna pay
me enoughing I feel the way I feel today. Today
I woke up, it was a sunny day out even
though it someone isn't up yet. Do you think some
jealousey there? You just never know, man, you know you
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could be you know, the guy I had it all?
I mean bruh. Guys that seemingly have it all and
have a certain type of way about them. Then they
come across like like Russ could come across in my
estimation maybe as like maybe a Bible thumper. You know,
you know, guys in the locker room aren't really keen
on Bible thumpers at all. Like you're either all in
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with the Bible thumpers or you're like it's like like, dang,
you gotta avoid you gotta you gotta avoid certain type
of personalities in the locker room. Man, he seems to
be like he he thumb the Bible and at the
same time got a badass wife. Like, let's just call
a spade a spade. So if you're telling the dude,
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don't drink, don't smoke, don't use drugs, like live right,
live for the Lord, go to church and get your
your your daily you know, prayer in your your stuff
like that. And I mean some people might be looking
at him like, hey, brouh, that's a little too much man,
back up off me. You know the coaches included, Hey,
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coaches be at work because they don't want to be
at home. I've seen some of the people that these
coaches have drug out to them. I say, they're at
work because they don't want to be at home. It again,
they're at work because they don't want to be at home.
And then you see what they done, brought to one
of these awards banquets, and then you be like, that
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was your choice, y'all chose one another. Don't be getting
mad at cats that walk up in there and you
like God Dann like, don't get mad at him, because
I can guarantee you I've seen Sierra in person. I
can guarantee you I'm not familiar me what Russell Wilson
walks into the room chats you know what. The first
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thing the big time cats are doing, the guys that
are all pros and and and future Hall of famers,
you know what, they're sitting there thinking sitting down, why
she ain't with me? Why she with him? You know what?
The rest of them aren't thinking, how do he do that?
You know what Russ is thinking, She's with me. That's
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what it is. That's that good. I mean, I would
not be surprised if that plays a part, if it
doesn't play a part in all of it. I'm just saying,
good for you, Russ. You keep doing you. You damn right.
You keep being you, keep being you, Russ. And you
take care of your chicken. You dig what I'm saying,
take care of your chickens. Play here, so let nobody
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mess with you. You doing well in life, Broh, I
congratulate you. I wouldn't be one of the dudes in
there hating. I'd be right there stepping right with you.
Believe you me. But God theay, it could be a
reason because I have seen some of the uh, I
have seen some of the spouses. That ain't always the case. Damn.
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Sometimes you'd be like, you're a good looking dude, brother,
that was your thinking? Damn was there high school? Sweetheart?
You don't have good decision making skills, you guys got
any cats are just cataractang what you was looking at
They say, they all groupies once you start making money.
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I had to go for the one that wasn't going
to try to get me. Nah, brouh. That is not
a good enough excuse for you to have made the
decision that you made here in this situation. Look, your
kids came out looking pretty good though, like it worked
out good for you. But you are trying to go
home though. I mean so, so he's gotten to the
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bottom of this. Uh so listen, I'm glad we cleared
that up now. It could play a part. You don't
be honest, like you just I'm being funny, but it
could play a part. His total life persona could be
the very reason why teams are turned off by and
he has the slightest idea of why it is why
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do people not like me? And sometimes that's a sad
commentary because he s right, that's what you're saying. I mean,
it could that that word would probably be included in there.
That word would would would certainly if if you did
a deep dive on it, I can guarantee you that
word surfaces somewhere along the way. It surfaces somewhere along
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the way. It's not every day that you have the
life that Russell Willson has. I mean, just be clear
on everybody ain't going to get away. Would coming to
a game with with a prom shiny suit on, in
shiny shoes and a bow tie, and and you're married
to Sierra dig dig dig all right, you ain't getting
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away with wearing that shiny suit and you ain't landing
a Sierra. You gotta live with it, and so does
russ y'all both got to do it. So there you go. Yeah, well,
well we cleared that up. It is You're welcome. That
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was a locker room talk right there. That's exactly what
that was. That was the segment.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Use it a That was a segment that was legit
locker room talk from there.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That is, if you were.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Sitting there after your workout, after practice, you'd be hearing
some of these old heads talk.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Say that's what they exactly what they be saying. This
was locker room talk. There you go, Thank you, presidents.
What they'd be saying it is two pros and a
cup of joe.
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Speaker 2 (22:46):
So, Josh Allen spoke about his new contract he got
in Buffalo yesterday with the media happy and Josh Allen
was kind of explaining where he's at with uh, with
where he's at with everything with his deal, uh, the
details behind it and is he ready?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
All right? Yeah, here was Josh Allen yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
It didn't seem like to my perspective, I was taking
a whole lot less. But when the only the way
that I make sense of it, when when you start
getting these fairly big numbers throughout the entire league. You know,
it's weird to say this, but what's what's five more
going to do for my life that I can't already
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do right now?
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Right?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
So, like it's not that crazy to me, right, Like
I live a pretty good life, got a house, got
a car, We're good. But I wasn't looking to absolutely
kill them in every every chance that I could. And
I told my agent that I was like, Hey, if
this this has any impact on the pack or impact
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on the cap, I should say, let's figure out a
way to not do that. So again, we were both
sides were willing to move and change different things, and
it was a pretty pretty calm mannered and negotiation is
what I can what I can say, at least what
I can hear on both sides.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
So it was a it was good.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Damn shots fired at Matt Stafford's a rough way.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's what you thought about Stafford? Is that a dag?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I mean, there's some other people, because that's really who
he's talking about, right, Yeah, I would have said, that's
the one making sixty million per year, and when you're
talking about a five million dollar discount, that's what you're
talking about, which I think I believe Burrows in that category.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Right, he's making five million less.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And there's a lot of truth to what Josh Allen saying,
like that five million can go to helping them them
build their roster the next However, many years on average Now,
the thing is you have to hope that your organization
is actually going to take the five million that you're
not taking and apply it to the rest of your teammates.
There's a spending floor for those out there that don't know,
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there's a three year average that you have to equate
to to at least spend the ninety percent of the
cap in the NFL. And so because of that, there's
a little bit of wiggle room and there's some creative
accounting where you can kind of if you're an ownership group,
uh not finagal things to put a little more cash
in your pocket, but you could see how there could
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be some money that's not spent that could potentially find
its way into your pocket. So that's the only concern
I always have. I'm a little cynical in that way,
But you got to trust your ownership. You have to
trust a Pagola family and the front office that they're
actually going to take that five million dollars that you're
not taking and then but just spurst it back to
the roster instead of just putting it back in their pockets.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, Terry Pegoula definitely spends his money on the betterment
and improvement of what's going on in the world. Oh
leave you a little bias there. Well, I'm buyas towards
actions when I see actions.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Tell him to open up his bill fold and pay
in for an upgrade at that airport.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, it's not his airport. Can he buy it?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Is it possible for the Bogoula family to buy the
airport and Happy Valley?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean that would be amazing if he expanded the airport,
for certain, if he bought it, that would be awesome.
It's my favorite airport at all. I mean there's a
couple more. There's a couple more that'd be rolling with
mister Plau. There's a couple more that if they put
themselves together, you know, it would be you know, I
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don't think there'd be too many issues expanding that that airport.
But but anyway, airport's gonna be that expensive. I mean,
you know, property value is up in State College. Man,
you know it's going on. Your house in d C.
With the koyfish sounded more expensive? Uh? Well it was.
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It was forty what forty forty five acres? It was.
It was a lot of land I lived on.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, you probably could have landed planes that property may
be the same size.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Just super quick because I'm gonna go back to Josh Allen,
but super quickly. I bought that property with the intentions
of having nine holes to golf on. So I lout that, yeah,
that's true. Story what happened. I didn't want to golf well,
and then now he's got to hate for the game.
I don't hate the game, but I just never got
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around to wanting to do it. Hutting Green. That's what
I'm saying. I was going to have a full nine
holes on the property. It's really beautiful property.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If it was miniature golf, you've been more likely to
play it like a windmill and a clown's mouth, no
little waterfall.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know what you're trying to get at there.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I just just I just wasn't into it, that's all.
I just had more things going on. But I will
say that in terms of the Josh Allen Holy Cromns
what uh oh? What? This can't be right? What is
uh oh? Is it breaking news? What is it?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I think if this is I'll have to dig into
this and see if this is right. I'm looking at
the acreage of the Happy Valley airport as compared to
your home in DC. All right, and basically let's.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
See Nope, this is not in the right now, Okay,
all right, I need to do for the research, it
would have to be it's probably not forty acres. I
would say that it's probably like ten, maybe fifteen twenty.
I'm looking at.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So this website I'm seeing says it's ten, but it's
it's not for the correct airport.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So I've got to I'm looking at it would be
University Park. It would be University Park. It's not a
big airport acres of university. It's been a big conversation
like and now with the expect oh well, never mind,
never mind. It's way bigger than I thought. What is
it like twenty acres bigger eleven airports smallest airports in
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the US. It's eleven hundred acres on acres. Well, well,
I'll say that you got everyone for all those vending machines.
They they definitely aren't using up there beer around here.
I've never I've never seen an airport, not that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Just not to be upset about this, but it's like
it's Saturday, all right, It's a Saturday on a home
Penn State game and you can't find one person to
serve beers in that place cafe like like the restaurants
shut down.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
It's I'm like floored by this.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I'm like off any day where you could absolutely cash
in this would be that day, and yet no one's
there serving beers in the airport.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I mean, you know, I do know a couple of
people who may or may not have worked at a
a radio station, who who left a uh somebody's tailgate
who they worked with at a radio station also and
may have had a couple of throat burners with.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Them because we had more than enough for you to
drink our tailgate. He did for certain well, I can
confirm that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know it was eleven
hundred acres. That's interesting. I mean, the runaways are bigger
than you think. So anyway, let's go back to all
I just think that Josh Allen is. I think he's
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doing it the right way. If you want to if
you're going to talk about your contract and you're going
to be in the media and you're going to be
asked about a super high contract, you want to be
able to say the things that Josh Allen is saying
because again we go back to earlier conversation, we were talking
(30:51):
about Russell Wilson. You know, you see how it went
when he got picked up by the Broncos's It sounds
was much different saying what he said, what Josh Allen said,
versus you're coming in and you have your own office space,
you know, your own assistant. Whatever it may be that
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that came with him going to you know, Russell Wilson
going to the Denver Broncos. It just rubs people the
wrong way, it does. And when you come out and
you say, Okay, I just got this big, big contract,
this blockbuster contract, but like let's be clear, I left
some money on the table and I left that money
(31:35):
on the table to make sure the pack. I thought
was dope. It's a dope slip up, like it's a
dope play on words like I wanted to make sure
that the pack was good and then you, I mean
the cap, you know, which is both. You want to
make sure that the cap is good so that the
pack can be good. You can't win, you can't. What
they say the law of the jungle is is that
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the strength of the wolf is the pack, and the
strength of the package an intentional slip It might have
been an intentional slip up. I just think that Josh Allen,
you just take that from Lion King. No, that's that's
there's a there's a poem out there or like a
it's it's it's like it's a pretty well, it's like
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the law of the Jungle or something to that effect.
And it's like, it's like, uh oh, yeah, that's not
that's not like the jungle the wolf is it the
jungle book. It might be the wolf that that pays
attention shall shall prosper, but the wolf that that doesn't
shell shall perish. The it's the something as old as something,
(32:42):
and it's it's it's anyways, I used to know the
whole the whole verb of it or whatever. But but
that's the part that I remember the most, which is
super cool. But anyway, I think that Josh Allen further
endears himself, not only to his community and and to
the people who cut him, which I don't even know
how important it is, you know, in terms of the
(33:04):
people that cover anymore. I'm not maybe I've been removed
too long to know. If the way the reporters cover
the local reporters cover the locker room and cover the teams.
Is still the relationship and how it's relatable and how
it's reported is still the same as it once was
without you know, all this new media. But the fact
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that he's also endearing himself to his teammates and to
the people who are making decisions the GMS, the ownership
and all that, I think that it's a really really
strong move on his part. Even even so, even though
he made a big, big, tremendous step forward with the
contract that he was able to receive, I think I
might have it here.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
This is the law of the Jungle, as old and
as true as the sky, and the wolf that shall
keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break
it shall die as the creep that girdles the tree trunk.
There you go, law, runneth forward and back. Yeah, For
the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the
strength and the strength of the wolf is the pack.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah. I used to have what's up from?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I used to have my uh whatever it is it sucks, Yeah,
whatever I used to have playing from the Jungle Book.
We used to quote that before we went out to
the games, Like when I was a head coach when
I was a head coach. Quote, you had to know
it because that means a lot on those kids. How
old are these kids.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It was a high school and there's a private Christian
studies and stuff, private Christian high school. They better be
able to learn that they knew it. Well. Instead of
teaching about Jesus, you're teaching about the Jungle Book. Yeah,
but that's about Jesus too. You know, Jesus had a
pack and the strength of the wolf was the pack.
And Jesus, yeah, that's right, well all of them. He
(34:50):
had his twelve disciples, Yeah, he made thirteen. He had
to have a pack. And the strength of his pack
was was him and the strength of the wolf was
was the pack. You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
It is time to welcome in a Thursday tradition. He
is the Great Albert Brier, Amazon NFL on Prime Insider,
Senior NFL Reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB.
You can get him on x at. Albert Brier ab
good morning. How are we feeling?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Hey, good morning guys. How we doing good?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean you okay, you sound sad? Bro you good?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:38):
No, no, okay, how are we doing good?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
To hear you? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Albert?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
No where what is the What can you tell us
is the latest with Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson? Like, it
feels like Russ is kind of waiting.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
No, I mean you guys might want to visit a
beat canary out there, Jonas, maybe you can find out
for me.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Right, he's hanging out here, listen.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
He's just, you know, trying to contemplate his future, you
know all that.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, it looked like it was pretty deep in
thought there.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I mean I I would just tell you, you know, like,
all I know about this situation is that the teams
are waiting, and so Pittsburgh and the Giants are sort
of in a holding pattern waiting for an answer right now.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Obviously this holds up some other things in the quarterback market.
The Vikings are an interesting one because the Vikings, I mean,
you guys saw what Daniel Jones got from from Indy, right,
So it's one year, fourteen million dollars incentives, they can
take it to seventeen to seven. My understanding is Minnesota
made an offer.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
That was very competitive with with.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
What Indianapolis putting from him. They they put something compelling
in front of Sam Darnold too, so you know, clearly
they want some insurance. Now they've discussed whether or not
that should lead them down the path of pursuing Aaron Rodgers,
and that's an ongoing discussion for them now too. You know,
you would think, you know, like based on what Minnesota
(37:11):
brings to the table, that could change things.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Entirely for Rogers.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So it's complex, and you know, some other things are being.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Held up now.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
You know, the cousins thing is is still in a
holding pattern as well, which I think is created an
opening for Russell Wilson to go to try to find
a starting spot.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And I think there is some fear for.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The teams involved that, you know, this has become a
little bit of a game of musical chairs, and you
don't want to be the team that's still standing up
when the music stops.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Can I point one thing out about that photo that
surface with Rogers on the beach with the board and
kit and a pair of boards. Short's looking out is
can you get a pair of wireless AirPods? I mean,
my god, he's wearing headphones or earphones that have chords
attached to him.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Like what is this? Like?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
I thought this was Like I thought this that was.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Isn't that a thing the kids are doing?
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Now? By wrong about that? Like I thought, like, I don't.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
I mean, I'm old now, so I don't know the
trends and stuff. But I think I thought like they'd
be like, I don't know, like less than a year ago,
I had noticed that like wired headphones were back in
for some reason, which I have no idea why that.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Would be the case.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
That'd be like that'd be like, you know, kids wanting
you know, wires in their PlayStation controllers again, So I
don't know why that would be the case, but but yeah,
I think that might be some sort of trend and
maybe maybe Aaron's trying to find some use and doing
things that way.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I was getting ass kicked on PlayStation yesterday on wireless remote,
So I don't know. It hasn't made.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
It I used to be.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I mean, I gotta tell you, guys, I I play
I played I played some college football against my my,
uh my sons.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
I am. I'm not even Michael Jordan on the Wizards anymore.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I'm like Michael Jordan right now. I was like I was.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
It's uh.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I used to be believe I could beat anybody in
college football when I was when I was, when I
was like my funniest and it's just I'm so washed up.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
My son beat me with a random team, he said,
and stop and it was on Liberty And he beat
me with Penn State. Penn State. So that's a good
punch line. There's your punchline. I won't use anybody else,
but I was using Penn.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
State, and that's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
He was stopping my run. I don't know how he
was stopping my run. I guess I was predictable.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's what you want to do, though you would think
like at the very least you can line up and
run him over.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
But a B.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I wanted to ask you about Russ, Like we had
the conversation about him earlier. Why does it seem like
he's like there's like this like toxic feeling connected to
Russell Wilson, Like what like what's being said about Russ
why is it that it seems like he's getting like
a bum rap in terms of being one and and
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what his value could be as a starting quarterback for
a team.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I mean, I just think it's the way that things
ended the last couple.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Of places he was.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
You know, it wasn't I don't think it was the
prettiest divorce in Seattle, and you know the way that
that kind of evolved over time. And then you know
in Denver obviously you know that thing like happened like in.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
The middle of the season. And then you know, I
think when.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
You when when when you go back and you examined
the last month in Pittsburgh kind of how that went.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
The wrong way.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
I think there's just I mean, look like, I think
we're all sort of you know, like your your opportunity.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Is is dictated by your talent, right like, and so.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
People are willing to put up with more from you,
the more you can bring.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
To the table.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
And I think that's you know, that goes for you know,
any walk of life. And I think as you become
less capable of carrying a team as a player or
playing at a very high level as a player, people
are willing.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
To put up with less, you know.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
And I think that's sort of where it is right now,
is that it's not like that Russell just can't play anymore,
you know. I think the bigger question for a lot
of these teams is like, well, what is he going
to bring with him? And are we going to have
to deal with all the stuff that Denver had to
deal with? Or is there going to be noise at
the end of the year if things don't go the
right way the way there was a noise at the
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end of the year in Pittsburgh, you know, And that's
that's the thing that I think teams are a little
leery of. At the same time, I mean, what are
you looking at now if you're if you're the Giants,
if you're the Browns, if you're the Steelers, you know,
and you can't control what happens with Kirk Cousins, and
and and and obviously Aaron Rodgers is going to pick
one and then somebody's gonna be left out in the cold.
(41:42):
It's it's an interesting situation. It's an interesting dynamic that's
out there. I mean, you know one thing that's sort
of interesting that I I don't think a lot of
people look that's Joe Blacco, you know what I mean, Like,
like I wonder would Joe black Will be a better
option than Russell Wilson Right now, I'm maybe for something,
you know, Like so I think a lot of this
still needs to play out. To me, Like the Kirk
(42:04):
Cousin situation is the one that no one's talking about.
That's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So what is the latest of that? We saw that
they you know, plan to move forward with him on
the roster. Yeah, what what's the idea and thinking behind that?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah? I think I think a big, a big part
of it is, you know, like this decision is like
we would rather pay one hundred million dollars for two
years of him than take the sun cost of ninety
million dollars for a single year. And I, yeah, I
do wonder if to some degree pride getting in the
way of this now Kirk requests the meeting with ownership
(42:37):
last week. He wound up meeting with Arthur Blank on
Wednesday night. Told Arthur Blank, I, you know, I would
like to have an opportunity to go start somewhere this year.
You know, I think you know that the response from
the Falcons was more.
Speaker 7 (42:51):
Or less you know, like that that we don't.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
We don't see this as you know, like a we don't.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
We don't think it's good business to.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
To walk away from a quarterback and pay for him
to play for someone else. And and and based on
you know, what you see across the league and the
way these situations can play out, we may need Kirk
this year, you.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
Know, And so they're sort of at a standoff now.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
And I think maybe the solution, guys like to me, is,
if you're the Falcons, can you find a team where
you say, okay, we're willing to pay X amount of
money on a salary, you know, say ten million, fifteen
million dollars of his salary to buy a draft pick,
and then you get out of the remainder of the
guarantee if you're if you're, if you're Atlanta. I think
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something like that could wind up being the solution, you know,
because I think there are teams out there again, like
you know, Cleveland, which Kevin Stefanski's there, Kevin Stefanski coach
Kirk Cousins for two years in Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
There's there's got to be a solution like that out there.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And and I you know, you do sort of feel
for kirk a little bit. I mean, I you know,
I guess it's hard to make anybody feel bad for
a guy who's, you know, collecting one hundred million dollars
over a couple of years. But you know, I do
think for Kirke, who kills his football mortality, he just
wants to go somewhere and play. And when he signed
in Atlanta in the first place, you know, he felt like,
(44:16):
you know, it was going to be his show at
least for a year or two and was sort of
blindsided by them picking Michael Pennox in the first round.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Albert In regards to this timeline on when this all
could happen, could this drag out in the draft or
maybe after the draft?
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Yeah, I mean, it just depends on and the Falcons
have shown a real willingness to to to wait it out.
Now the next checkpoint and deadline whatever you want to
call it, and this whole thing at Monday, that's when
the ten million dollars for next year for twenty twenty
six becomes fully guaranteed.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
So right now they owe.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Him twenty seven and a half million dollars fully guaranteed
for this year. That guarant like the guaranteed money they
owe them rises by ten million dollars, and that ten
million dollars is part of his twenty twenty six money.
If he's still on the roster on Monday. The Falcons
have not shown, have not given any indication that that's
going to make them move whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
So you know, if we get there.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
And we we we we get to Monday and he's
still on the roster, and yeah, the next checkpoint I
think would be the draft, and you know, then you'd
be talking about maybe a team coming out of the
first round on that Friday without a quarterback and saying, Okay,
we need to do something. And then and then maybe
the Falcons have a trade Pardner. But I think it
would be best for everybody if they did it now.
I mean, I don't know, Brady. I tend to think
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the best thing for your young quarterback is to is
to rid the room of any sort of drama that
might exist. And clearly this is you know, I think
this is going to be a storyline. And if he
doesn't play well, if he doesn't play well coming out
of the gate gate, if a storyline that could be reprised.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
If Kirk is still on the roster.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
On Tennessee, because like, what's their plan going to roll
with Will Levis at this point or is there exactly what.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
I mean, it just looks I mean, it feels like
everything's lining up for like right now at least like
it feels.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Like everything's lining up for Kemp Moore to be the pick,
you know.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
And I and I don't know for sure that's going
to happen, but like, hey, you know, I would have
told you two weeks ago I think it's going to
be Abduall Carter. And I still don't think Abdul Carter
gets out of the two or the first two or
three picks. But I mean it's not just you know,
like that they haven't gotten a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
It's like sort of like the lack of activity.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
At all at quarterback. You know, that gets your attention
with where where the Titans are they going to do something?
You know, their new general manager, Mike Borgonzi was with
Carson Wentz last year and in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
Could that be an option? You know?
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I mentioned Joe Flacco, like I think he could be
you know, an effective bridge for a year if he
needed to bridge it, you know, But I you know,
the way I look at it, you know, they it's
not just that they haven't got one, it's just the
lack of throwing their hat in the ring in any
of these situations that sort of at least would would
would would seem to indicate that that maybe the leaning
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towards taking quarterback first overall. And I think most teams
view this, you know, view it as as cam.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
Ward is the best prospect at that position and.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Then they're being in cap My my last question I
had two for you know, that was definitely one I
was thinking of mart The question is what was the
thought processing going and getting Justin Fields versus another quarterback?
And are they looking at him as being the starter
for for this team? So, is that like that's a
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pretty discounted rate compared to what these other guys are
getting on the market to be starters in the league.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Yeah, I think they do.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
They Yeah, I would say they view Justin Fille's as
their starter for now, and who knows what this can become.
You know, I think it's a good reminder LeVar of
the situation that that that that Aaron Glenn is coming
from right like he wants to Detroit. Did anybody think
when when when he and Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson
and Brad Holmes all those guys got to Detroit, did
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anybody think that, like four years later, Jared Goff would
still be the quarterback, you know what I mean? Like,
I think most people felt like when that trade happened,
when the Stafford trade happened, that that Jared Goff was
a salary dumb you know. And lo and behold, here
we are and he's played in an NFC title game,
and he's made the playoffs twice, and he's got a
brand new contract, you know what I mean. Like, So
(48:30):
I think that's the sort of idea here, is like
you're not saying he's going to be a quarterback for
five for the next five years, ten years, but you know,
you're bringing in a talented kid and you're going to
give him the opportunity to show that he can be that,
you know, sort of like Sam Darnold last year and
Baker Mayfield the year before that, where you take a
highly drafted kid and you say, okay, like, let's see
(48:53):
what we can make out of this. And I think
it's also an indication that I think they'll pick a
seventh overall at armand in front of me. But I
think it takes Evans, you know, I think it's also
an indication that, like they know they can't control what
happens at the top of the draft, and you know
the draft classic quarterback isn't such where you know there's
(49:15):
there's likely to be one that's worthy of the seventh
overall pick the balls.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
He is Albert Brier. Get him on x at Albert Brier.
He is an Amazon NFL on Prime insider, the star
of the show. Really if you ask him, senior NFL
reporterle at the m m q b ab We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
We'll do it again next week. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
And if you guys, if you guys see anybody out
on those beaches out.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
There, Jonas, let me know, yeah, we will do.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
By the way, people are tweeting in that Rogers has
a theory about bluetooth affecting your brain and so.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
That's ah, there you go, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
That see that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
That was that was definitely malabu, right, Like that's that
looked like to me.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, yeah, because if you pan farther back, you would
see like you know, some homeless people and some things
like that.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Definitely, we're going there saying if you pull back on
the camera just you can see that. But Albert, thanks
so much man. We'll do it again everybody. Yeah, but
that is the speculation. Maybe you know, it doesn't want
to make sense. Yeah, he each his own
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Lamar airings and rating wind and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio speaking of tire Rack, Hey, dumb asses driving in
the rain, slow down, jesus.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Unless you're me and you're from the East coast. People
are flying, man, they do not care. Do not hit
your gas when you hydro plane.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Some guy just warred into a guardrail as I was
driving in so hopefully things work out. A cop it
just arrived, so enjoy that. But you know, tire Rack
is here to help everybody in these difficult conditions.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Is this one of those moments where you guys complain
about the driving in the rain, that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
People out here act like it's hard to do, just admiring.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Meanwhile, the rest of the country drives to sleet and
ice and blacknow and all those tough I mean, just
come on, does not have a comparison.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's not. I'll be the first one to tell you,
but I will say this. I did almost turn around
and go back home just because just because I know
people do use that as an excuse in California. There
you go. Shit, I almost sand around and went back home.
You softened up. No, I really, haven't you ate dope?
Don't you softened up? I drove like I drove a
(01:25):
hydro plane twice on my way in twice. What do
you what do you drive? Don't you have four well drive? Yeah? Yeah,
I got a defender. But but but the point is
that it doesn't. It don't bother me. I am a
big mic taught me how to drive. We went, We
went into North Hill, the North Hills Indian. Come on, shutting.
(01:47):
You know what I'm saying, shutting? Hey man, they took
me at North Hills parking lot. Bride drove in all
all terrain, all weather. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I'm saying shutting. I don't call you shutting your you're
my son. I call you son because you shine like one. Anyway, Well, hey, h's.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We are still playing the waiting game, as are the
Pittsburgh Steelers on who's going to be their quarterback moving forward? Uh,
free agency, I mean the real juicy stuff for free
agency seem to have all been filled out and good
and dead and buried, and everybody's off and running and
having press conferences, and yet still just kind of waiting
around Rogers mulling over his decision.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Russell Wilson waiting to see Rogers does why are you
waiting Russ? Uh? I just gotta wait to see what
Aaron's going to do. I say, what a what a
humbling couple of years for him?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Man. Hang, He's like, he is, hey, well we'll take
him if if the other guy says you know that
that he's going to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Dude. When now he was like, you're such a hater
room for what you said about Russ and the love
is blind? I was like, how am I wrong for that?
Basically he wants this, but you can't have that. You're
not good enough to just have a starting job, like
wherever you want. You gotta wait to see who Who's like, well,
(03:16):
we'll take Russ. That's what you're waiting on. It's not
the most horrible thing when you're talking about, Okay, if
it's Aaron Rodgers that you're doing the comparison to. At
this point in Aaron Rodgers' career, do we know how
much is out of the toothpaste too?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We don't. Do we know how much is left? No
we don't. We just know he's Aaron Rodgers. That's what
we know, and that's still right now for the moment,
based upon how he played finished out the season last year.
I think it's still enough to say that the intrigue
is there for him to be a good player for
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somebody's team, and more so than Russell Wilson. I don't
think that should be offending like offensive now, I will
say what's offensive is the Jets took too justin fields
and they were with field they did they not come
to the Russell offer offer Russell, No, we take Justin.
(04:17):
It's like getting picked in the yard for for a
pickup game, like uh uh pick pick pick me, Uh
we take Justin. Was there ever any interest though in
the Jets and Russell Wilson did I don't think it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, I'm just saying I don't think at any point
there's been interest on either side.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know if I know, I don't have a job.
I'm interesting. Russe's agent calls the Jets like, hey, what
about Russ?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Hey hello, you guys have to understand this though, too.
How much did Russell Wilson play for last year?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Like it was he got his from Yeah, they he's
it was really closer to like almost forty million, Yeah,
and the Steelers were on the hook for what like two.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
How much of the Jets pay Justin Fields, I mean
twenty now laters, they paid him like and I think
twenty per year at least under this contract. So there
might have also been a thought of, like, Russell Wilson's
got a price wants to pay for and Jonas you've
detailed this, like, he has not played bad. I mean,
he gave their offensive lift at least initially last year
(05:26):
in Pittsburgh. He didn't play bad as last year in
Denver despite all those circumstances with Sean Payton, who I
mean really didn't didn't like him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He didn't like him, He did not like them.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That's more of the concern that I think there is
in regards to like, why is it that more teams
aren't in on Russell Wilson. I mean, Cleveland's absously, you know,
making sure that maybe he's a potential option for them,
But I just don't think there's enough cash space or room.
But when you look at the past couple of stops
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he's had, there's reports at the end of last year
he was rubbing Arthur Smith the wrong way, and or
maybe they butted heads a little bit in regards to
the offense at the end of the year when they
started to struggle. Then you go back to the Denver
Broncos and for whatever reason, I mean him and Sean Payton.
It is just like Sean Payton, I guess put up
(06:21):
with it for a year, but there is something going.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
On there Brook. He loves Seattle. If Russell Wilson told
me to say run past to me on the sideline,
I'd be like, bitch, get out of my face.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So that's part of what I think is interesting about
out the quarterback musical chairs is if you've got Rogers,
Wilson's Cousins, how do you think teams are ranking those three?
Even though Cousins hasn't been released, it looks like they're
going to pay his ten million dollars bonus and potentially
(06:54):
be an expensive backup if they can't find a trade
for him. But let's say, let's just say that Cousins
is a part of that mix. Now, what was his injury,
Kirk Cousins. Yeah, well he was coming off an achilles
He's he just got benched. He just got he wasn't
an injury that he got well, he he got the yips,
he started, he started turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He got banged up in a game against right he
got hit. Yeah, and and he never was quite the same,
and he tried to downplay it. And then the Saints
acknowledged after the season, yeah, or the Falcons acknowledged after
the season.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He wasn't really the same afterwards, and that sort of
led to, you know, the decline.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But listen, boy, Yeah, I don't know that he was
lighting on a fire either way. But Cousins is intriguing
because for some reason he seems to be a serviceable
option and a very safe seemingly a very safe option
in terms of personality, locker room integration. He just seems
(07:58):
like he would be the type of guy you on
in your locker room russe. He's the number one guy
you're looking at. I think if again, I think it's
by by Market. Who's left? Who's left? Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,
New York, The Giants, the Giants. If I'm the Giants,
(08:20):
I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first. If I'm the Steelers,
I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first. Hell, if I'm Tennessee,
I'm probably looking at Aaron Rodgers is probably first. Now
I think it's debatable for second. I think it's debatable
for second, And I think that that debatable would come
(08:40):
down to are we willing to have a meet and
greet with with these two guys. I would be very
cautious of hiring a quarterback that is now seeing himself
or doesn't want to get hit and is making mistakes
off of being nervous in pocket, being nervous by the
(09:02):
past rush, feeling that pressure. I would be more nervous
about that than I would be the personality traits. I'd
rather take a more abrasive or or whatever you want
to call whatever you would want to call it, personality
traits wise, I'd be more willing to deal with a
wild card personality wise than a guy that isn't isn't
(09:23):
willing to take a hit anymore. Who's got more left? Like?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Who do you see playing longer? Rogers or Russell Wilson?
Like to me, I think Rusk plays longer if he
gets the opportunity. And Rogers has been open about the
fact that, hey, listen, you know, maybe last year would
have been his final year. He decided he wanted to
come back but you know, in all likelihood, this year
looks like it might be his final year, depending on
how the season goes. Russ feels like he wants to
(09:48):
play longer. And it's thirty six too, Yeah, and there's
five years of difference. And to what you were saying, also,
like how many guys leave on bad terms three straight times?
And then it's like, I don't worry about it, give
him another shot, Like it just there is at some
point it's not well it was Seattle, or while it
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was Denver, or while it was Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
There there's gotta be a.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Feeling around the league that Russell Wilson's just a pain
in the ass. Like there's gotta be because there's no
other explanation as to why he's sitting around waiting to
see whether or not Rogers wants to play again.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who it's for? And I'll take whatever's Like, you know,
being a pain and an ass part is when you
don't know you're a pain in the ass. That's one
in self awareness. That's when it's the worst. I would
assume I've never met Russell Wilson, so I don't want
to judge him. He just comes across as the type
of dude that doesn't know that he rubs you the
(10:49):
wrong way because in his mind he's like, really a
good dude. He seems like a nice guy. Probably is
a good dude.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, and I'll say it again, for the times I've
been around them, I think what happens and there's there's
people who do this and they're like this, you know,
Tim Tebow was like that where I mean, I think
that probably is more the penunciation.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They're really tibo. I don't know, but I don't give
a I thought it was funny the way you said it.
So good. Let's stay with Tobo.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We refer to him in that Tim Tebow he was
one of those people too that I think, you know,
probably lacked a little bit of an understanding of you know,
some of the way he tried to play quarterback, the
way he tried to be a teammate, it rubbed some
guys the wrong way. Now, the reality is some guys
don't care because they are who they are and they're
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genuine in that. I think Russell is similar in that sense,
where there's people who watch him operator watching them around him,
they're like, may this feels fake or he can't be
like this all the times, Like, but yeah, he is.
I mean, there's people and this is what I've learned,
Like the older I've gotten is there's just people in
life who our characters.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Man. I mean, like, for example, we have on Pete Prisco.
You know, he's a character, Like like.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
People people think that he comes on our radio show
on Tuesdays and how he acts as like a stick
or for radio or something.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That is how he is.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It doesn't matter if I was in studio with him
and we walk right outside, He'll be giving it to
the Italian restaurant that he ate the night before and
why I was overpriced that it should have been this much,
and what they did wrong with whatever it was, or
he hated the Kenolas at the end, it's it's like
that's just who he is. He's a character. There are
plenty of guys that I've been tim Brando is one
of the funniest human beings I've ever been around, and
(12:35):
and he is who he is, Like like Timmy Bee
is a good dude. He's got a warm heart, and
people be like, man is that guy? Like yeah, Like
like Timmy, He's just a character. So I've found that
out more in life where I think there's some people
who just feel convicted and who they are in some
cases like who's God God's called them to be or
who they are is a leader or player, and they
(12:57):
don't want to change that, Like they're like, this is
who I am and maybe they can't change that or
they don't want to.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But I would say the thing you brought.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Up, LeVar, and when we talk about like rubbing people
the wrong way, I think it's just more of a
like people don't feel like it's genuine.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think that's more of the that's more of the
sentiment that I.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Think players, you know, felt like maybe a little bit
in Seattle during the short stint I was there, or
even whether it was with Tibou or whoever else, like
you get a sense of like, oh, they don't feel
like that's really who they are now. I would argue
that some of the people I've been around, like whether
it's Tim or it's Russell, like yeah, they are like
that's how they are, That's just who they are, and
(13:39):
it's hard for other people to accept it because they
don't live their lives the same way. So to your point, like,
I think that's where the conflict comes is like, maybe
they don't always adhere to all the social norms. Maybe
they don't always you know, do all the same things
off the field, or do all the things the same
things in the building. However they operate and it rubs
guys the wrong way. So like my thing is like,
(13:59):
I'm I don't really care. At the end of the day,
everyone's you know, pushing together to go try to win
and be successful. But it is interesting now that from
Seattle to Denver to you know, you know, obviously his
past year in Pittsburgh, it's like, for some reason, there's
something that's happening that is causing him not to be
a guy that who's won a Super Bowl, bended to
(14:21):
has played at a really high level, and even the
past couple of years gave a lift to Pittsburgh, didn't
play that bad in Denver. Like you go back and
look at You're, like, man, it's it's kind of interesting
how it just it's rubbed some people the wrong way
for some reason. And again it doesn't make a lot
of sense. I'm not exactly sure what it is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But I'm also I also haven't been around him in
a long time, so you were you around him when
he was married.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yes, yes, I mean he came to my wedding like
we were you know, I remember talking to him about
when things were, you know, he was gonna get a
divorce Like it's.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh no, no, the second marriage, no not. And that's
the thing is like, well, yeah, I'm not not at
that point. I mean, that could have changed all of us.
I mean, I'm not going to sit there and tell
tell him he's wrong for feeling the way he feels
in life right now, exonerated in all charge. I just said,
I ain't gonna hold him accountable if he guilty. If
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I got her hyping me up every morning, I might
come across the tack. I might come across the tack
bit confident and abrasive to a lot of people. My goodies,
my goodie, my goodies good I mean, And she's willing
(15:39):
to do drills at the White House. Bruh. She took
her heels off, and she let her man hand the
ball off to him, and she went through them, those
those tackle dummies. And I'm just saying, I'm just saying
I would be hyped up two. I would be pumped
up two, that's all say. And you know what, and
(16:01):
I don't care if you don't like me as long
as my family does. I mean, you ain't gonna pay
me enoughing I feel the way I feel today. Today
I woke up, it was a sunny day out even
though it someone isn't up yet. Do you think some
jealousey there? You just never know, man, you know you
(16:22):
could be you know, the guy I had it all?
I mean bruh. Guys that seemingly have it all and
have a certain type of way about them. Then they
come across like like Russ could come across in my
estimation maybe as like maybe a Bible thumper. You know,
you know, guys in the locker room aren't really keen
on Bible thumpers at all. Like you're either all in
(16:45):
with the Bible thumpers or you're like it's like like, dang,
you gotta avoid you gotta you gotta avoid certain type
of personalities in the locker room. Man, he seems to
be like he he thumb the Bible and at the
same time got a badass wife. Like, let's just call
a spade a spade. So if you're telling the dude,
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don't drink, don't smoke, don't use drugs, like live right,
live for the Lord, go to church and get your
your your daily you know, prayer in your your stuff
like that. And I mean some people might be looking
at him like, hey, brouh, that's a little too much man,
back up off me. You know the coaches included, Hey,
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coaches be at work because they don't want to be
at home. I've seen some of the people that these
coaches have drug out to them. I say, they're at
work because they don't want to be at home. It again,
they're at work because they don't want to be at home.
And then you see what they done, brought to one
of these awards banquets, and then you be like, that
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was your choice, y'all chose one another. Don't be getting
mad at cats that walk up in there and you
like God Dann like, don't get mad at him, because
I can guarantee you I've seen Sierra in person. I
can guarantee you I'm not familiar me what Russell Wilson
walks into the room chats you know what. The first
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thing the big time cats are doing, the guys that
are all pros and and and future Hall of famers,
you know what, they're sitting there thinking sitting down, why
she ain't with me? Why she with him? You know what?
The rest of them aren't thinking, how do he do that?
You know what Russ is thinking, She's with me. That's
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what it is. That's that good. I mean, I would
not be surprised if that plays a part, if it
doesn't play a part in all of it. I'm just saying,
good for you, Russ. You keep doing you. You damn right.
You keep being you, keep being you, Russ. And you
take care of your chicken. You dig what I'm saying,
take care of your chickens. Play here, so let nobody
(19:01):
mess with you. You doing well in life, Broh, I
congratulate you. I wouldn't be one of the dudes in
there hating. I'd be right there stepping right with you.
Believe you me. But God theay, it could be a
reason because I have seen some of the uh, I
have seen some of the spouses. That ain't always the case. Damn.
(19:23):
Sometimes you'd be like, you're a good looking dude, brother,
that was your thinking? Damn was there high school? Sweetheart?
You don't have good decision making skills, you guys got
any cats are just cataractang what you was looking at
They say, they all groupies once you start making money.
(19:46):
I had to go for the one that wasn't going
to try to get me. Nah, brouh. That is not
a good enough excuse for you to have made the
decision that you made here in this situation. Look, your
kids came out looking pretty good though, like it worked
out good for you. But you are trying to go
home though. I mean so, so he's gotten to the
(20:09):
bottom of this. Uh so listen, I'm glad we cleared
that up now. It could play a part. You don't
be honest, like you just I'm being funny, but it
could play a part. His total life persona could be
the very reason why teams are turned off by and
he has the slightest idea of why it is why
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do people not like me? And sometimes that's a sad
commentary because he s right, that's what you're saying. I mean,
it could that that word would probably be included in there.
That word would would would certainly if if you did
a deep dive on it, I can guarantee you that
word surfaces somewhere along the way. It surfaces somewhere along
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the way. It's not every day that you have the
life that Russell Willson has. I mean, just be clear
on everybody ain't going to get away. Would coming to
a game with with a prom shiny suit on, in
shiny shoes and a bow tie, and and you're married
to Sierra dig dig dig all right, you ain't getting
(21:19):
away with wearing that shiny suit and you ain't landing
a Sierra. You gotta live with it, and so does
russ y'all both got to do it. So there you go. Yeah, well,
well we cleared that up. It is You're welcome. That
(21:44):
was a locker room talk right there. That's exactly what
that was. That was the segment.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Use it a That was a segment that was legit
locker room talk from there.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That is, if you were.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Sitting there after your workout, after practice, you'd be hearing
some of these old heads talk.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Say that's what they exactly what they be saying. This
was locker room talk. There you go, Thank you, presidents.
What they'd be saying it is two pros and a
cup of joe.
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Speaker 2 (22:46):
So, Josh Allen spoke about his new contract he got
in Buffalo yesterday with the media happy and Josh Allen
was kind of explaining where he's at with uh, with
where he's at with everything with his deal, uh, the
details behind it and is he ready?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
All right? Yeah, here was Josh Allen yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
It didn't seem like to my perspective, I was taking
a whole lot less. But when the only the way
that I make sense of it, when when you start
getting these fairly big numbers throughout the entire league. You know,
it's weird to say this, but what's what's five more
going to do for my life that I can't already
(23:31):
do right now?
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Right?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
So, like it's not that crazy to me, right, Like
I live a pretty good life, got a house, got
a car, We're good. But I wasn't looking to absolutely
kill them in every every chance that I could. And
I told my agent that I was like, Hey, if
this this has any impact on the pack or impact
(23:55):
on the cap, I should say, let's figure out a
way to not do that. So again, we were both
sides were willing to move and change different things, and
it was a pretty pretty calm mannered and negotiation is
what I can what I can say, at least what
I can hear on both sides.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
So it was a it was good.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Damn shots fired at Matt Stafford's a rough way.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's what you thought about Stafford? Is that a dag?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I mean, there's some other people, because that's really who
he's talking about, right, Yeah, I would have said, that's
the one making sixty million per year, and when you're
talking about a five million dollar discount, that's what you're
talking about, which I think I believe Burrows in that category.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Right, he's making five million less.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And there's a lot of truth to what Josh Allen saying,
like that five million can go to helping them them
build their roster the next However, many years on average Now,
the thing is you have to hope that your organization
is actually going to take the five million that you're
not taking and apply it to the rest of your teammates.
There's a spending floor for those out there that don't know,
(25:05):
there's a three year average that you have to equate
to to at least spend the ninety percent of the
cap in the NFL. And so because of that, there's
a little bit of wiggle room and there's some creative
accounting where you can kind of if you're an ownership group,
uh not finagal things to put a little more cash
in your pocket, but you could see how there could
(25:25):
be some money that's not spent that could potentially find
its way into your pocket. So that's the only concern
I always have. I'm a little cynical in that way,
But you got to trust your ownership. You have to
trust a Pagola family and the front office that they're
actually going to take that five million dollars that you're
not taking and then but just spurst it back to
the roster instead of just putting it back in their pockets.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, Terry Pegoula definitely spends his money on the betterment
and improvement of what's going on in the world. Oh
leave you a little bias there. Well, I'm buyas towards
actions when I see actions.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Tell him to open up his bill fold and pay
in for an upgrade at that airport.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, it's not his airport. Can he buy it?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Is it possible for the Bogoula family to buy the
airport and Happy Valley?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean that would be amazing if he expanded the airport,
for certain, if he bought it, that would be awesome.
It's my favorite airport at all. I mean there's a
couple more. There's a couple more that'd be rolling with
mister Plau. There's a couple more that if they put
themselves together, you know, it would be you know, I
(26:36):
don't think there'd be too many issues expanding that that airport.
But but anyway, airport's gonna be that expensive. I mean,
you know, property value is up in State College. Man,
you know it's going on. Your house in d C.
With the koyfish sounded more expensive? Uh? Well it was.
(27:01):
It was forty what forty forty five acres? It was.
It was a lot of land I lived on.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, you probably could have landed planes that property may
be the same size.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Just super quick because I'm gonna go back to Josh Allen,
but super quickly. I bought that property with the intentions
of having nine holes to golf on. So I lout that, yeah,
that's true. Story what happened. I didn't want to golf well,
and then now he's got to hate for the game.
I don't hate the game, but I just never got
(27:35):
around to wanting to do it. Hutting Green. That's what
I'm saying. I was going to have a full nine
holes on the property. It's really beautiful property.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If it was miniature golf, you've been more likely to
play it like a windmill and a clown's mouth, no
little waterfall.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know what you're trying to get at there.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I just just I just wasn't into it, that's all.
I just had more things going on. But I will
say that in terms of the Josh Allen Holy Cromns
what uh oh? What? This can't be right? What is
uh oh? Is it breaking news? What is it?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I think if this is I'll have to dig into
this and see if this is right. I'm looking at
the acreage of the Happy Valley airport as compared to
your home in DC. All right, and basically let's.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
See Nope, this is not in the right now, Okay,
all right, I need to do for the research, it
would have to be it's probably not forty acres. I
would say that it's probably like ten, maybe fifteen twenty.
I'm looking at.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So this website I'm seeing says it's ten, but it's
it's not for the correct airport.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So I've got to I'm looking at it would be
University Park. It would be University Park. It's not a
big airport acres of university. It's been a big conversation
like and now with the expect oh well, never mind,
never mind. It's way bigger than I thought. What is
it like twenty acres bigger eleven airports smallest airports in
(29:12):
the US. It's eleven hundred acres on acres. Well, well,
I'll say that you got everyone for all those vending machines.
They they definitely aren't using up there beer around here.
I've never I've never seen an airport, not that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Just not to be upset about this, but it's like
it's Saturday, all right, It's a Saturday on a home
Penn State game and you can't find one person to
serve beers in that place cafe like like the restaurants
shut down.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
It's I'm like floored by this.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I'm like off any day where you could absolutely cash
in this would be that day, and yet no one's
there serving beers in the airport.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I mean, you know, I do know a couple of
people who may or may not have worked at a
a radio station, who who left a uh somebody's tailgate
who they worked with at a radio station also and
may have had a couple of throat burners with.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Them because we had more than enough for you to
drink our tailgate. He did for certain well, I can
confirm that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know it was eleven
hundred acres. That's interesting. I mean, the runaways are bigger
than you think. So anyway, let's go back to all
I just think that Josh Allen is. I think he's
(30:29):
doing it the right way. If you want to if
you're going to talk about your contract and you're going
to be in the media and you're going to be
asked about a super high contract, you want to be
able to say the things that Josh Allen is saying
because again we go back to earlier conversation, we were talking
(30:51):
about Russell Wilson. You know, you see how it went
when he got picked up by the Broncos's It sounds
was much different saying what he said, what Josh Allen said,
versus you're coming in and you have your own office space,
you know, your own assistant. Whatever it may be that
(31:12):
that came with him going to you know, Russell Wilson
going to the Denver Broncos. It just rubs people the
wrong way, it does. And when you come out and
you say, Okay, I just got this big, big contract,
this blockbuster contract, but like let's be clear, I left
some money on the table and I left that money
(31:35):
on the table to make sure the pack. I thought
was dope. It's a dope slip up, like it's a
dope play on words like I wanted to make sure
that the pack was good and then you, I mean
the cap, you know, which is both. You want to
make sure that the cap is good so that the
pack can be good. You can't win, you can't. What
they say the law of the jungle is is that
(31:56):
the strength of the wolf is the pack, and the
strength of the package an intentional slip It might have
been an intentional slip up. I just think that Josh Allen,
you just take that from Lion King. No, that's that's
there's a there's a poem out there or like a
it's it's it's like it's a pretty well, it's like
(32:18):
the law of the Jungle or something to that effect.
And it's like, it's like, uh oh, yeah, that's not
that's not like the jungle the wolf is it the
jungle book. It might be the wolf that that pays
attention shall shall prosper, but the wolf that that doesn't
shell shall perish. The it's the something as old as something,
(32:42):
and it's it's it's anyways, I used to know the
whole the whole verb of it or whatever. But but
that's the part that I remember the most, which is
super cool. But anyway, I think that Josh Allen further
endears himself, not only to his community and and to
the people who cut him, which I don't even know
how important it is, you know, in terms of the
(33:04):
people that cover anymore. I'm not maybe I've been removed
too long to know. If the way the reporters cover
the local reporters cover the locker room and cover the teams.
Is still the relationship and how it's relatable and how
it's reported is still the same as it once was
without you know, all this new media. But the fact
(33:26):
that he's also endearing himself to his teammates and to
the people who are making decisions the GMS, the ownership
and all that, I think that it's a really really
strong move on his part. Even even so, even though
he made a big, big, tremendous step forward with the
contract that he was able to receive, I think I
might have it here.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
This is the law of the Jungle, as old and
as true as the sky, and the wolf that shall
keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break
it shall die as the creep that girdles the tree trunk.
There you go, law, runneth forward and back. Yeah, For
the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the
strength and the strength of the wolf is the pack.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah. I used to have what's up from?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I used to have my uh whatever it is it sucks, Yeah,
whatever I used to have playing from the Jungle Book.
We used to quote that before we went out to
the games, Like when I was a head coach when
I was a head coach. Quote, you had to know
it because that means a lot on those kids. How
old are these kids.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It was a high school and there's a private Christian
studies and stuff, private Christian high school. They better be
able to learn that they knew it. Well. Instead of
teaching about Jesus, you're teaching about the Jungle Book. Yeah,
but that's about Jesus too. You know, Jesus had a
pack and the strength of the wolf was the pack.
And Jesus, yeah, that's right, well all of them. He
(34:50):
had his twelve disciples, Yeah, he made thirteen. He had
to have a pack. And the strength of his pack
was was him and the strength of the wolf was
was the pack. You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
It is time to welcome in a Thursday tradition. He
is the Great Albert Brier, Amazon NFL on Prime Insider,
Senior NFL Reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB.
You can get him on x at. Albert Brier ab
good morning. How are we feeling?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Hey, good morning guys. How we doing good?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean you okay, you sound sad? Bro you good?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:38):
No, no, okay, how are we doing good?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
To hear you? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Albert?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
No where what is the What can you tell us
is the latest with Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson? Like, it
feels like Russ is kind of waiting.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
No, I mean you guys might want to visit a
beat canary out there, Jonas, maybe you can find out
for me.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Right, he's hanging out here, listen.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
He's just, you know, trying to contemplate his future, you
know all that.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, it looked like it was pretty deep in
thought there.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I mean I I would just tell you, you know, like,
all I know about this situation is that the teams
are waiting, and so Pittsburgh and the Giants are sort
of in a holding pattern waiting for an answer right now.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Obviously this holds up some other things in the quarterback market.
The Vikings are an interesting one because the Vikings, I mean,
you guys saw what Daniel Jones got from from Indy, right,
So it's one year, fourteen million dollars incentives, they can
take it to seventeen to seven. My understanding is Minnesota
made an offer.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
That was very competitive with with.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
What Indianapolis putting from him. They they put something compelling
in front of Sam Darnold too, so you know, clearly
they want some insurance. Now they've discussed whether or not
that should lead them down the path of pursuing Aaron Rodgers,
and that's an ongoing discussion for them now too. You know,
you would think, you know, like based on what Minnesota
(37:11):
brings to the table, that could change things.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Entirely for Rogers.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So it's complex, and you know, some other things are being.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Held up now.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
You know, the cousins thing is is still in a
holding pattern as well, which I think is created an
opening for Russell Wilson to go to try to find
a starting spot.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And I think there is some fear for.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The teams involved that, you know, this has become a
little bit of a game of musical chairs, and you
don't want to be the team that's still standing up
when the music stops.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Can I point one thing out about that photo that
surface with Rogers on the beach with the board and
kit and a pair of boards. Short's looking out is
can you get a pair of wireless AirPods? I mean,
my god, he's wearing headphones or earphones that have chords
attached to him.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Like what is this? Like?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
I thought this was Like I thought this that was.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Isn't that a thing the kids are doing?
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Now? By wrong about that? Like I thought, like, I don't.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
I mean, I'm old now, so I don't know the
trends and stuff. But I think I thought like they'd
be like, I don't know, like less than a year ago,
I had noticed that like wired headphones were back in
for some reason, which I have no idea why that.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Would be the case.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
That'd be like that'd be like, you know, kids wanting
you know, wires in their PlayStation controllers again, So I
don't know why that would be the case, but but yeah,
I think that might be some sort of trend and
maybe maybe Aaron's trying to find some use and doing
things that way.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I was getting ass kicked on PlayStation yesterday on wireless remote,
So I don't know. It hasn't made.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
It I used to be.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I mean, I gotta tell you, guys, I I play
I played I played some college football against my my,
uh my sons.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
I am. I'm not even Michael Jordan on the Wizards anymore.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I'm like Michael Jordan right now. I was like I was.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
It's uh.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I used to be believe I could beat anybody in
college football when I was when I was, when I
was like my funniest and it's just I'm so washed up.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
My son beat me with a random team, he said,
and stop and it was on Liberty And he beat
me with Penn State. Penn State. So that's a good
punch line. There's your punchline. I won't use anybody else,
but I was using Penn.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
State, and that's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
He was stopping my run. I don't know how he
was stopping my run. I guess I was predictable.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's what you want to do, though you would think
like at the very least you can line up and
run him over.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
But a B.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I wanted to ask you about Russ, Like we had
the conversation about him earlier. Why does it seem like
he's like there's like this like toxic feeling connected to
Russell Wilson, Like what like what's being said about Russ
why is it that it seems like he's getting like
a bum rap in terms of being one and and
(40:01):
what his value could be as a starting quarterback for
a team.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I mean, I just think it's the way that things
ended the last couple.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Of places he was.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
You know, it wasn't I don't think it was the
prettiest divorce in Seattle, and you know the way that
that kind of evolved over time. And then you know
in Denver obviously you know that thing like happened like in.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
The middle of the season. And then you know, I
think when.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
You when when when you go back and you examined
the last month in Pittsburgh kind of how that went.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
The wrong way.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
I think there's just I mean, look like, I think
we're all sort of you know, like your your opportunity.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Is is dictated by your talent, right like, and so.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
People are willing to put up with more from you,
the more you can bring.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
To the table.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
And I think that's you know, that goes for you know,
any walk of life. And I think as you become
less capable of carrying a team as a player or
playing at a very high level as a player, people
are willing.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
To put up with less, you know.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
And I think that's sort of where it is right now,
is that it's not like that Russell just can't play anymore,
you know. I think the bigger question for a lot
of these teams is like, well, what is he going
to bring with him? And are we going to have
to deal with all the stuff that Denver had to
deal with? Or is there going to be noise at
the end of the year if things don't go the
right way the way there was a noise at the
(41:21):
end of the year in Pittsburgh, you know, And that's
that's the thing that I think teams are a little
leery of. At the same time, I mean, what are
you looking at now if you're if you're the Giants,
if you're the Browns, if you're the Steelers, you know,
and you can't control what happens with Kirk Cousins, and
and and and obviously Aaron Rodgers is going to pick
one and then somebody's gonna be left out in the cold.
(41:42):
It's it's an interesting situation. It's an interesting dynamic that's
out there. I mean, you know one thing that's sort
of interesting that I I don't think a lot of
people look that's Joe Blacco, you know what I mean, Like,
like I wonder would Joe black Will be a better
option than Russell Wilson Right now, I'm maybe for something,
you know, Like so I think a lot of this
still needs to play out. To me, Like the Kirk
(42:04):
Cousin situation is the one that no one's talking about.
That's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So what is the latest of that? We saw that
they you know, plan to move forward with him on
the roster. Yeah, what what's the idea and thinking behind that?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah? I think I think a big, a big part
of it is, you know, like this decision is like
we would rather pay one hundred million dollars for two
years of him than take the sun cost of ninety
million dollars for a single year. And I, yeah, I
do wonder if to some degree pride getting in the
way of this now Kirk requests the meeting with ownership
(42:37):
last week. He wound up meeting with Arthur Blank on
Wednesday night. Told Arthur Blank, I, you know, I would
like to have an opportunity to go start somewhere this year.
You know, I think you know that the response from
the Falcons was more.
Speaker 7 (42:51):
Or less you know, like that that we don't.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
We don't see this as you know, like a we don't.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
We don't think it's good business to.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
To walk away from a quarterback and pay for him
to play for someone else. And and and based on
you know, what you see across the league and the
way these situations can play out, we may need Kirk
this year, you.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
Know, And so they're sort of at a standoff now.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
And I think maybe the solution, guys like to me, is,
if you're the Falcons, can you find a team where
you say, okay, we're willing to pay X amount of
money on a salary, you know, say ten million, fifteen
million dollars of his salary to buy a draft pick,
and then you get out of the remainder of the
guarantee if you're if you're, if you're Atlanta. I think
(43:39):
something like that could wind up being the solution, you know,
because I think there are teams out there again, like
you know, Cleveland, which Kevin Stefanski's there, Kevin Stefanski coach
Kirk Cousins for two years in Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
There's there's got to be a solution like that out there.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And and I you know, you do sort of feel
for kirk a little bit. I mean, I you know,
I guess it's hard to make anybody feel bad for
a guy who's, you know, collecting one hundred million dollars
over a couple of years. But you know, I do
think for Kirke, who kills his football mortality, he just
wants to go somewhere and play. And when he signed
in Atlanta in the first place, you know, he felt like,
(44:16):
you know, it was going to be his show at
least for a year or two and was sort of
blindsided by them picking Michael Pennox in the first round.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Albert In regards to this timeline on when this all
could happen, could this drag out in the draft or
maybe after the draft?
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Yeah, I mean, it just depends on and the Falcons
have shown a real willingness to to to wait it out.
Now the next checkpoint and deadline whatever you want to
call it, and this whole thing at Monday, that's when
the ten million dollars for next year for twenty twenty
six becomes fully guaranteed.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
So right now they owe.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Him twenty seven and a half million dollars fully guaranteed
for this year. That guarant like the guaranteed money they
owe them rises by ten million dollars, and that ten
million dollars is part of his twenty twenty six money.
If he's still on the roster on Monday. The Falcons
have not shown, have not given any indication that that's
going to make them move whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
So you know, if we get there.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
And we we we we get to Monday and he's
still on the roster, and yeah, the next checkpoint I
think would be the draft, and you know, then you'd
be talking about maybe a team coming out of the
first round on that Friday without a quarterback and saying, Okay,
we need to do something. And then and then maybe
the Falcons have a trade Pardner. But I think it
would be best for everybody if they did it now.
I mean, I don't know, Brady. I tend to think
(45:36):
the best thing for your young quarterback is to is
to rid the room of any sort of drama that
might exist. And clearly this is you know, I think
this is going to be a storyline. And if he
doesn't play well, if he doesn't play well coming out
of the gate gate, if a storyline that could be reprised.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
If Kirk is still on the roster.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
On Tennessee, because like, what's their plan going to roll
with Will Levis at this point or is there exactly what.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
I mean, it just looks I mean, it feels like
everything's lining up for like right now at least like
it feels.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Like everything's lining up for Kemp Moore to be the pick,
you know.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
And I and I don't know for sure that's going
to happen, but like, hey, you know, I would have
told you two weeks ago I think it's going to
be Abduall Carter. And I still don't think Abdul Carter
gets out of the two or the first two or
three picks. But I mean it's not just you know,
like that they haven't gotten a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
It's like sort of like the lack of activity.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
At all at quarterback. You know, that gets your attention
with where where the Titans are they going to do something?
You know, their new general manager, Mike Borgonzi was with
Carson Wentz last year and in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
Could that be an option? You know?
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I mentioned Joe Flacco, like I think he could be
you know, an effective bridge for a year if he
needed to bridge it, you know, But I you know,
the way I look at it, you know, they it's
not just that they haven't got one, it's just the
lack of throwing their hat in the ring in any
of these situations that sort of at least would would
would would seem to indicate that that maybe the leaning
(47:09):
towards taking quarterback first overall. And I think most teams
view this, you know, view it as as cam.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
Ward is the best prospect at that position and.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Then they're being in cap My my last question I
had two for you know, that was definitely one I
was thinking of mart The question is what was the
thought processing going and getting Justin Fields versus another quarterback?
And are they looking at him as being the starter
for for this team? So, is that like that's a
(47:39):
pretty discounted rate compared to what these other guys are
getting on the market to be starters in the league.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Yeah, I think they do.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
They Yeah, I would say they view Justin Fille's as
their starter for now, and who knows what this can become.
You know, I think it's a good reminder LeVar of
the situation that that that that Aaron Glenn is coming
from right like he wants to Detroit. Did anybody think
when when when he and Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson
and Brad Holmes all those guys got to Detroit, did
(48:08):
anybody think that, like four years later, Jared Goff would
still be the quarterback, you know what I mean? Like,
I think most people felt like when that trade happened,
when the Stafford trade happened, that that Jared Goff was
a salary dumb you know. And lo and behold, here
we are and he's played in an NFC title game,
and he's made the playoffs twice, and he's got a
brand new contract, you know what I mean. Like, So
(48:30):
I think that's the sort of idea here, is like
you're not saying he's going to be a quarterback for
five for the next five years, ten years, but you know,
you're bringing in a talented kid and you're going to
give him the opportunity to show that he can be that,
you know, sort of like Sam Darnold last year and
Baker Mayfield the year before that, where you take a
highly drafted kid and you say, okay, like, let's see
(48:53):
what we can make out of this. And I think
it's also an indication that I think they'll pick a
seventh overall at armand in front of me. But I
think it takes Evans, you know, I think it's also
an indication that, like they know they can't control what
happens at the top of the draft, and you know
the draft classic quarterback isn't such where you know there's
(49:15):
there's likely to be one that's worthy of the seventh
overall pick the balls.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
He is Albert Brier. Get him on x at Albert Brier.
He is an Amazon NFL on Prime insider, the star
of the show. Really if you ask him, senior NFL
reporterle at the m m q b ab We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
We'll do it again next week. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
And if you guys, if you guys see anybody out
on those beaches out.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
There, Jonas, let me know, yeah, we will do.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
By the way, people are tweeting in that Rogers has
a theory about bluetooth affecting your brain and so.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
That's ah, there you go, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
That see that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
That was that was definitely malabu, right, Like that's that
looked like to me.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, yeah, because if you pan farther back, you would
see like you know, some homeless people and some things
like that.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Definitely, we're going there saying if you pull back on
the camera just you can see that. But Albert, thanks
so much man. We'll do it again everybody. Yeah, but
that is the speculation. Maybe you know, it doesn't want
to make sense. Yeah, he each his own
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