March 14, 2025 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about the decision for Aaron Rodgers coming down to the Steelers, the Giants, and possibly one more team, how his decision could set off a domino effect, former Cowboy DeMarcus Lawrence taking a shot at his old team, ICYMI, Coop's Leftovers, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It might be time for one of these remaining quarterbacks
to make a decision at some point or another.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is it them?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I mean, well, you know, we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Russell Wilson is It feels like he's kind of waiting
on Rogers to make his decision. He went to Cleveland yesterday,
left there without a contract, and then now he's scheduled
to visit the Giants later today, which is interesting because
I think Joe Flacco also is set to meet with
the Giants or met with the Giants about, you know,
possibly joining on. And Russell Wilson before he signed on
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with Pittsburgh last year, the Giants were the other team
that he met with before, so there is some familiarity there,
so maybe it would make some sense for Russ in
New York with the Giants potentially.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Is common sense, though, feel like Aaron Rodgers is the
domino the things the fall first, Like once Aaron Rodgers
decides where he's going, then that kind of lines up
everyone else. And and the difference I think for and
we talked about this a little bit yesterday, the Giants
and Pittsburgh for example, is you know Pittsburgh, they obviously
you didn't want fields, or if they did, they weren't
willing to offer something that the Jets were willing to offer.
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It doesn't seem like Russell Wilson is in their plans.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So if that's the.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Case, then you're really putting all your eggs in the
Aaron Rodgers basket. Or you got to feel really good
about either Jackson, dart or Shoud or Sanders. However they
see those two quarterbacks and potentially maybe dropping to them,
or maybe they feel good about someone, you know, in
the second round because they've done that before. But either way,
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like they're kind of in a tough spot. Now, maybe
they can work out of trade for Kirk Cousins. But
as we listen Albert Brier talk about and I kind
of touched on yesterday, it's gonna be tough because of
his contract. I mean, Atlanta's gonna want a draft pick
back in return, and they're probably not going to say
we're just willing to pay whatever in his contract to
(02:10):
get rid of him, like we like him as a backup.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He played banged up for us last year.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, Michael Panics is the future, but we've already paid
Kirk Cousins at this point, especially if they end up
painting him the ten million. So if all that happens,
it's like, well, at that point, there's really no leverage
for Atlanta get a deal done. It's all in Pittsburgh,
and they're making moves this offseason that make you feel
like they're trying to, you know, be all in this offseason,
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if you will. So I look at it and think
the decision by Rogers is probably the one that's going
to set off the dominoes and it's gonna then set
up Russell Wilson then potentially set the stage for Kirk Cousins.
And again, I think some of that has to do
with the fact that it's an indication of how teams
are probably feeling about this draft class, and also maybe
(03:01):
they're their current situation right Like if you're looking at
the New York Giants based on how this past year went,
We've talked about.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
That at length.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
They've got to win some football games because they probably
feel like they're in quarterback hell right now with the
way everything's gone.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Can I run just a thought or a theory by
you guys, and you tell me what you think of it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Can we get some music to go?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, yeah, Robert Stack maybe is it a conspiracy theory?
Not really, It's it's just more of a what is
Rogers thinking at this point in time?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is it like a beachy Amish theory? The possibly?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean it is there is that which which is.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
A Randalls with socks on.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh you know what's great about discussing the homage? They
don't listen, so you can't piss them off. It's just
like you're not gonna get any blowb Well, these.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Ones actually they do.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I mean, as I pointed out to yesterday with the video, Yeah,
I mean, and they by the way, they can they
can move those feet, man, yeah they can't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They all look very similar.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Lorena is married to this one right here, and she's
really wanted to play this one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, this is yeah, this is not not anything to
do with the thought of the theory on Rogers.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So here's the way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If he's got these two options and it's the Giants
and the Steelers, and he's got a pre existing relationship
with Mike Tomlin, they like.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Each other a lot nice and there's.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The potential that he can at least win some games
and have a shot at a super Bowl in Pittsburgh.
Then it feels like the choice is easy. If this
is all about one year and I'm trying to while
I can put myself in the best position possible to
win a super Bowl, the decision's easy. It should be
Pittsburgh and it should be done with because the Giants
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aren't that so the only reason it would take this
long is if there was another option, And if the
other option is Minnesota, the only reason that Rogers would
be hesitant at all would be because of the Brett
Farr conversation surrounding it that he's following in the exact
footsteps of Brett Farv. If Farv had never gone to Minnesota,
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I think this is a done deal. He's a Viking
right now, but I think that he's trying to get
over that and decide whether he wants to follow that
same path or he wants to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't think the Giants are in the equation. I
think this is more of a.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Steeler's or Vikings decision, and both seem to be very
interested in bringing them in.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Why are they taking so long? That's that's the QBS. No,
I don't. I don't think it's about the QB's making
a decision. I think it's about the teams making a decision.
I think they're waiting on Rogers.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I really yeah, I actually would disagree that. I know
one team specifically is waiting on Rogers.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I mean, so they've already there's already been offers put
out there, and it's like, I can't make the decision yet.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, it's not about the office being put out there.
He's got to decide where he wants to go. There's
probably some framework of it, but it's more about figuring
out like, hey, is this the place that I want
to go play? And then you can kind of hammer
out the wrest of what the deal is going to be.
But so he's holding teams hostage, then damn right. And
here's the thing is, we just started the new league year.
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Like I know, it feels like these quarterbacks are taking
a long time, where the teams are taking a long time.
We just started, like we just made a lot of
what's able to happen in the off season in regards
to free agent signings and trades official. So it feels
like forever and honestly, we're the we're because of that,
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We were.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
To blame for this.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You feel that way, and I'm not sure if you're
aware of this. It is AE hundred percent on you,
on me, on Jonas, on everyone else in the sports media.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What do we do?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Because as soon as the Super Bowl's done, what do
we do? We fast forward to the draft, we fast
forward to the off season and the NFL and maybe
Roger Godell's you know, partial part really to blame for
this too, But this is what they wanted. The NFL
wants you to feel like it is a twenty four
to seven, two undred and sixty five days a year
league that you're gonna be talked about and there's gonna
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be drama and it drags out. I mean, even in
your favorite shows, there's certain things that drag out and
you're like, my god, can this just end?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
That's why we're at where we're at. So in this
particular case, well, I do think we're.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Gonna get something to happen by Monday. I'll say that much.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But I know there's one team for a fact that's
waiting on waiting on for Rogers and they want to
go with a veteran quarterback. So once that, as I
said before, once that domino falls, we can then you know,
see some other movement.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But the reality is, like think.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
About the Kirk Cousins situation, nothing's probably gonna happen till
the draft, right because that's the deadline, like deadlines do deals,
and that deadline for trading for kirk Cousins services with
that contract hammering out what that looks like, that's gonna
be probably till the end of April. Like you're not
gonna get your best to offer from either side, whether
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it's Atlanta or probably the team that's trading for him,
until there's more clarity as to what the frigid quarterback
market looks like and probably a better idea of what's
happening in the draft, Like you might see a team
that ends up taking Kirk Cousins because they didn't get
a guy in the first round and they don't want
to be standing there without a quarterback to go in
and be competitive this year, So that that scenario may
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play out for a while. So it feels like it's
just been dragging on. But to be honest, it just began.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I mean for me, I don't feel like it's been
dragging Oh. I just feel like when the new league
year hits, that's when the deals get done. That's when
you have the money to do it. Now if they're
holding money in this this instance, in this case, and
it's you know, it's a special situation or not not
normal because it's a quarterback that's that's involved. I mean,
but a lot of signings take place, and a lot
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of reasons why it's it's imperative if you're going to
be a free agent that you become a free agent
as early as possible before the league year starts, other
than like waiting until you get to right before training
camp or anything starts, and then you get released. Then
there's nothing left. There's no jobs for you, there's nothing left.
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So for me, I don't feel like it's like a
dragging out thing. I feel like it's, ah, you want
to figure out what your workforce is and when the
new league year. By the time the new league year
gets here, you have an idea who you want to
go after and who you want to bring in. I
don't think you're just trying to figure out today if
you're trying to bring in a guy that that's going
to be available or possibly somebody that you could trade for.
(09:47):
So I do understand that it does drag out sometimes
like it you know, there's trades that take place right
before the draft. There's trades that take place during the draft.
But I think those are different. I think there's a
different set of circum stances of rules of engagement for
free agency and trades right now than it is the
further we get away from the start of the league year,
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the closer you get to the.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Draft.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Can I give you a list then of quarterbacks who
did not sign right away? Yeah, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,
Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers the first time around.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean I can go on, like.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
There's a much longer list of guys that goten signed
before the like that signed. These are quarterbacks, sure, I mean,
but I'm saying the guys at the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, And I'm saying that there's gonna be guys like
Daniel Jones, maybe Sam Darnold with that situation, I ever
works yourself out, but like not the other guys, like
not like we're talking about some of the other guys
we're talking about in this instance, right, both.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Big name guys.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
But I think all of those guys had circumstances surrounding
them too, though Now it wasn't that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Cumstances surrounding them.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If you want to argue about it, you can argue
about it, but the history would not would not actually
support what.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're saying for other players.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Sure, but Daniel Jones that situations are surrounding him, right,
very good.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
That's well, yeah, there you go. That's a circumstance surround you.
The names there are really good players.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But Sam Donald he had circumstances kind of surrounding him, right.
He didn't think he was very good. Then last year happened.
Now he was really good.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Now they're trying to figure out like what is and
and honestly, if you're Sam Donald, the reason why you
take Seattle as fast as humanly possible is because you
don't want to get stuck in the waiting game, because
what was if Seattle was like, hey, we actually had
a really good conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We're gonna wait and see what he makes.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Decision he makes first before we want to try to
sign anyone else, because we don't want to be the
team that likes Aaron Rodgers, wants to sign Aaron Rodgers,
but then doesn't want to wait on Aaron Rodgers to
make a decision. You don't want to be that team, right,
I mean, it's it's kind of the same thing when
people everyone's claring for Peyton Manning. Like I'll never forget
when free agency started, I was in Kansas City and
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I remember there was a sign on like a theater
like trying to you know, promoting trying to sign Peyton
Manning and none of that was done yet. And I
remember talking to the Denver Broncos and I was tying
the Kansas City Chiefs and literally like the Broncos were like,
we're almost positive we're gonna get him, Like we're almost
positive we're gonna get him, Like you can come in here,
you could be the backup all that stuff, and it
was enticing. I was sitting at a hotel room in
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Kansas City thinking, man, i'd be you know, I don't
want to back anyone up, Like that's not ever what
I want. It's ultimately not what I decided to do
or didn't. I went to a place where I thought
I had a better chance of playing. And at that
point though, I was like, well, there's no guarantees he's
gonna pick to go there though, and I don't know
how long is it's gonna drag out. So I made
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a decision in retrospect. It was like, well, if you're
gonna back someone up, like there's probably never or there
are probably a few people you'd say you want to
go sit behind than Peyton Manning. And maybe it's Tom
Brady's other name, right, I'm not sure who else you're
throwing that conversation. I mean, Jordan Love has done great,
sem Heid Aaron Rodgers. I get some conspiracy theories out
of that, but you know, I'm just saying it's sometimes
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it depends on the persons situation and they might be
saying their agent might be saying to them, don't wait
too long. Take whatever offers there for you instead of
waiting for like, you know what you feel like it's
a perfect spot. So everyone's got, you know, a different
situation circumstances, but like for these guys, they I mean,
look at for Rogers too, it's how is the final
chapter of his careers get in right?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And that's why That's what I was about to say.
Ask with everything that you're saying. Then that leads me
to the next question of why does why is Aaron
Rodgers taking so long?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Is it a matter of what you're talking about with Minnesota, like, oh,
because of Brett Favre, Like, I wouldn't bait if I'm
going there because of that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I wouldn't give a damn if it matters if it
looks like I'm following the same pattern that Brett Fahr followed.
I didn't care less they got players in Minnesota, by the.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Way, that wasn't I think Jonas might have said that, Yeah,
I don't personally think that factors in at all. In fact,
I actually feel like there's certain circumstances where Brett will
provide insight into, you know, one of the teams that's
potentially looking at him because of you know, the past
history with a coach, kind of understanding like how this
coach works, you know, et cetera. So I actually think
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Brett could be one of the pieces that helps shape
Aaron Rodgers' mind on where he goes, who.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Gets him, who's more likely to win a Super Bowl?
If he joins their squad, Pittsburgh Minnesota Like who gets
him closer? I think it's Minnesota. I think they're both
improved teams. I mean now and they I think they
would both be very dangerous if you get the Aaron
Rodgers we think we're getting. I just think it's I
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think Pittsburgh makes more sense because I believe Mike Tomlin
can balance out those moments that get out of balance
when Aaron Rodgers is on your team. That would be
the single deciding fact I think personell wise, I would
go towards Minnesota being the more talented team, the more
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the team that has probably a better opportunity to make
it all the way versus the AFC North and with
the Steelers. But with that being said, I think Mike
Tomlin would provide would provide a stable situation as and listen,
I know Kevin O'Connell is a dope coach. I just
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don't know enough about him to know if he could
handle what comes with coaching Aaron Rodgers. I just know
you're not gonna see any type of that with Mike
Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. And that could be a great
environment for Aaron Rodgers to be in at this point
in his career where he doesn't have to be Aaron
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Rodgers because Mike Tomlin is the Mike Tomlin for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. All he has to do is just go
out there and play ball.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Is Mike Tomlin's going to shoulder all the weight of
all the criticism and all the things that are going
to come your way as it applies to being a Steeler.
I think the best situation for him would be Pittsburgh
because of the stability of what they have going on.
Not not a knock against Minnesota, just saying that, I
think from that perspective, I would say Pittsburgh, and I
don't like way Pittsburgh at all, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I think one of two routes. Like with Mike Tomlin,
everything that you're saying is dead on. You know, he's
going to have a structure, he's gonna have his way
of doing things. You're playing for Mike Tomlin. If it's
Kevin O'Connell, it's like a partnership. I think, Yeah, I
think he's much more open to working with him. Very
similar to how things operated kind of with Kirk Cousins.
You know, how they see the offense, how they see
the game planning, et cetera. I think it's a much
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different feel and that might be also something that takes time,
Like you do you want to go play for a
coach where you feel like that coach is your coach?
You know, kind of a Tom Brady Bill Belichick type relationship.
Do you want that? Or as Tom Brady kind of
searched out, I think he thought, you know, Bruce arians
was probably like that to some degree, but he felt
like he was more of a player's coach and more
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of a partnership there with that. But for for Minnesota,
you know, you sit there and say, like you got
the young JJ McCarthy, Kevin O'Connell's probably like, yeah, I'd
love to work with Aaron Rodgers, right. I would think
that Minnesota from the team perspective, they probably look at
the Aaron Rodgers' potential signing and say, this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Would be better for us in the long run.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Unless Pittsburgh decides to sign Rodgers than draft a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, there's really no one there waiting to develop.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So it's an entirely different circumstance. I think from Pittsburgh,
where it's more of an all in mentality for this year,
this short window of time, and maybe that's where they're
at because of how things have been with which have
been good with Mike Tomlin, but not to the Pittsburgh
Steelers standard.
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Speaker 2 (18:11):
App So, apparently there's a a little bit of a
beef going on in the NFL that I was not
aware of. I was not aware that this was actually
a thing. But DeMarcus Lawrence, who just signed a deal
with the Dallas Cowboys or excuse me from the Dallas
Cowboys with the Seattle Seahawks, he was talking upon his
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arrival in Seattle about his feelings about the city of
Dallas and the Cowboys, and he had this to say.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
You know, Dallas is my home. I made my home there.
You know, my family lives there. You know I'm forever
going to be there. But you know, I know for
sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So yeah, So Micah Parsons caught wind of the video quote,
re tweeted it on X and said this what rejection
and envy look like? This some clown ass with a
clown emoji, to which DeMarcus Lawrence responded, call me a
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clown won't change the fact that I told the truth.
Maybe if you've spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
I wouldn't have left. So we've got one former cowboy
and a current cowboy going at it, and I gotta
be honest with you. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is probably
right he wasn't gonna win a super Bowl in Dallas.
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But Michaeh. Parsons is not fond of the commentary there,
So go ahead, que I mean, LeVar, I'll take it
after Q. I'd love you sent me up like debian.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Here's the one thing I'd say, all right, it's I'm
not just really sure where the beef comes from.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
What's going on here? All right?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
DeMarcus Lawrence, he's not an interesting past. I would focus
more on him and what's happened in his career. Do
you recall like you had back to back double digit
SAX seasons for Dallas, like he was on the trajectory
that you're looking for with a player of his caliber.
Remember you got franchise tagged played great that year. I
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kind of hit at the right spot. It's not about
one hundred and five million dollar contract. Since that time,
he's really struggled, I mean with sack, production, injuries, all
of it. In fact, like I think he subsequently took
a pay cut like year after year there in Dallas.
Now I think he's making a little more in Seattle
than what he was, you know, making in Dallas before.
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But it's odd because I would have thought when Micah
got there and you had DeMarcus Lawrence, like this was
gonna be a tandem that plays together forever and we
were gonna start talking about that tandem as you know,
those edge rushers that helped finish a game for the
Cowboys if they were ever gonna win a Super Bowl.
And it's unfortunately been anything but that. And it's not
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because of Mica it's more because of DeMarcus Lawrence. So
I was more curious about the signing in general for Seattle.
It feels like one of those signings that you know,
what do you like, what kind of player do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You think you're getting?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, in all seriousness, if you go back and
look through kind of you know, his stats and how
he's played and and everything, it's like, is that the
move that you're you're kind of trying to make at
this point? If you're Seattle in a year that you know,
you bring in Sam Darnold, you're putting a lot of
eggs in that basket. Defensively, that's Mike McDonald's calling card.
I don't know how really good they were last year.
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Maybe feels like they're a better scheme fit for him.
But that was more of the angle I kind of
had on this was it's, look, you know, player Beef's
player Beef. That's between whatever those two had going on.
But I would say this like going to Dallas if
you were a Micah Parsons and then getting there and
seeing what DeMarcus Lawrence was before and then what he's
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been of late, it probably was disappointing. You know, for
a lot of people, there are a lot of Dallas
Cowboys fans. After one hundred million dollar deal, there's a
couple of things I started thinking. First thing I thought
was Boise State took an l to the Niitney lines
in the Fiesta Bowl. That that could be where some
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of this kind of you know, originated from, is that
you know, you're looking at Micah and you're like or
you're looking at the situation and you're like, you know, well,
the Nitney lines were better than the Boise State what
are they Mustangs?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
What are what are the what's theirn broncos?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Maybe maybe he felt a certain type of way about
that starting there. You know, maybe the beef maybe resonated
from maybe a little trash talk about the college playoff.
Obviously Lawrence being from Boise State and Micah being from
Penn State. You know, who knows which. By the way,
Micah was was he out there getting now that was
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an Orange Bowl?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Anyway?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Then I started thinking also an extension of of that
would be I started thinking about all of the conversations
about the relationships being reported that Micah has strength relationships
in the building, and those mounting strains on relationships could
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play a part in how Jerry Jones and his son
Stephen looked at re signing him back to this team. Well, clearly,
now you have another one to add to the list
of people that maybe we spec you could speculate didn't
didn't have a great relationship with Micah. I think you
can confirm now that there's safe to say there's a
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disconnect between him and DeMarcus Lawrence. To say say what
Micah said with the jealousy and envy part, there's something happened.
There was an interaction there. It was made evident, at
least in Micah's you estimation, that DeMarcus is jealous of him,
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that he's envious of him, and now he had the
opportunity to say it. DeMarcus Lawrence responding the way that
he did in a lot of ways confirms if you're
thinking Mica thought a certain way about how DeMarcus Lawrence
felt about him, he confirmed it in his response. I
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didn't think it was the best of comebacks for DeMarcus
Lawrence because we all know that DeMarcus Lawrence was on
that team that didn't win more and he only played
seven games and didn't contribute any sacks, any force fumbles,
any anything really of significance.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He did have sax he had seven sacks or three
three three sacks, my bad, one force fumble. It just
wasn't very significant contribution. To this team this year. So
I think when you look at it, when you look
at it from a critical perspective, clearly coming back with
(25:12):
with the responses saying we would have won more if
you wasn't tweeting, more like as your focus on the
fact that this man has taken over for Bleacher Report
and has a significant, you know, role in what it
is that they they rolled out with this new platform
that they launched. Does that hit you the wrong way?
(25:32):
And if so, why why can't you guys work together
figure it out and be the better for it? Why
does it have to be you know, drama between the
two of you, And I mean, he felt comfortable and
Micah felt comfortable enough to call him a clown on Twitter,
which I thought was in a lot of ways he
could have been. He could have been bigger and better
(25:54):
for it. I think he was offended or or hurt
by the fact that he said what he said. But
you can't have beef with Michael Parsons on on a
response when your statements are basically taking a shot at
the Cowboys and their personnel. And that's why I left.
They're not going to win. You guys are losers. Basically,
(26:15):
you're not going to win, So I'm leaving, getting the
hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I mean, I'm team DeMarcus in this all the way
I think. Uh, I think he represented himself nicely. He
got paid, and I think everything he said.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
I think you're being an instigator, But I don't. You
can't instigate me on it because I don't care. That's there,
that's their that's their situation. I mean, do you buy
do you buy into to what DeMarcus Lawrence said? Like
to me, if you buy into what DeMarcus Lauren said,
then it's it's it's all but fair for for Michael
(26:47):
Parsons to respond the way that he did. That is
some clowns to sit there and jump out there and say,
on your way out, I knew I had to leave
here because we ain't winning no Super Bowls all life.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
What about all the guys that are staying well, the
Seattle I mean, like, like, let's be honest with ourselves,
Like who's got a better chance right now? Is the
Dallas Cowboys of the Seattle Seahawks. I would too, I mean,
I don't think it's particularly close. Can you look up
the the betting odds?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I look them up. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Now, Jonas doesn't have the betting odds, but always up.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Do you really have?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys and the Seattle Seahawks identical odds
to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That's that's disturbing.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I would take the under of Seattle right now versus
Dallas at this moment.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I mean, look, he's right though, they're not going to
win a Super Bowl. And I know this is something
we don't have to say it, well, you don't have.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You don't have to take a parting shot at your
your your your teammates like you might be looking at
it like I'm taking a parting shot at the organization,
and that's maybe more justified, but you got to take
into consideration. When you do that, you're taking a shot
at all of the people that are remaining on that
roster and working there. You're basically saying, y'all stink. So
(28:11):
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'll say this though, as far as the emojis go,
Michael Parson's clearly won because he used the clown emoji
and DeMarcus Lawrence used like that little purple devil emoji,
and the clown emoji is sneakily the piasso, the payaso
emoji is sneakily a really insulting, immature and funny way
(28:35):
to respond to somebody, to totally dismiss anything they have
to say.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
If you just send me a clown emoji, it's wonderful.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
To Levar's point, though, it's like, look, Dallas paid you
one hundred and twenty eight million, hundred and twenty seven
million or whatever it is over the course of your career, Like,
I don't know that you need to take a parting
shot to justify why you're in Seattle. I mean, the
reality is it's probably they were going to pay you
more than what you were going to get paid in Dallas.
(29:03):
And if you go back through that high water mark
of a contract, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence was he kind
of started to take some pay cuts, you know, after
that one hundred million dollar contract. You know, he went
from that to a three year, forty million dollar deal.
Whereas average annual value is less, his signing bonus was
(29:23):
half of what it was. And my guess is Seattle
was willing to pay him more so than what Dallas
was going to And mind you, he's making less with
the Seattle Seahawks than under his previous contract, the extension
he signed and reworked contract after one hundred million dollar deal.
So it does seem unnecessary. I don't again, I'm not
(29:45):
going to speak to a relationship between two players.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I have no idea. Maybe it is the Bowl game
or something. I don't don't know. Ye, I don't know, but.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I would just say this, It seemed unnecessary, and I
think there's some validity to what LeVar was saying, Like
the Lawrence was that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
He was that guy.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Defensively for them at one point time for a couple
of years on that team, and after Micah Parson's rookie season,
that'll shifted drastically where I'm sure everything off the field
was going to Mica, going to Mica, going to Micah,
and I'm sure that's frustrating after being that guy for
a couple of years in a place that is arguably
(30:23):
the biggest brand in the NFL.
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Speaker 3 (30:52):
Coo Cood Cooper.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Function in case you weren't aware, Cooper Malfunctions.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Are the new flaming hot item on the auction block.
You see what I did there? Yes, good job, thank you,
well done.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Thanks sanks.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
That sort of thing we're recently, we're coming off a
auction where a a flaming hot cheeto in the shape
of the Pokemon charizard sold for eighty seven thousand dollars eighty.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Dollars to be exactes.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
And now the same auction company, auction House, auction House.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There we go.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
They are now auctioning off a flaming hot air Jordan
Jumpman cheeto.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That is, looking at the pictures, ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I mean, whoever buys it, please make sure I have
the address. I'm willing to go to jail for slapping
that s out of the person for whoever bids on
this this flaming cheeto.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
There are currently three bids and it is at three
hundred dollars at the moment.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
That is ridiculous, Olvis hair, It's not Michael Jordan, and
he's holding both he's holding the ball with both.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
His hands, and he's junk in the tree.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
He's got a straight BBL going on, going on, straight BBL.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's why they got his butt so big on that cheeto. Man,
that's no.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I mean, three hundred dollars is ridiculous for a cheeto.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's so stupid.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
We spend eighty seven thousand on the Pokemon one loser.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, and how is that thing packaged?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
It doesn't look like it's presented very well on the photo,
you show.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Man, dumb Okah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
That's kind of flaming hot, big booty cheeto. That's that's
called the Michael mj jump Man. You don't even have
one hand going back. You got to have the hand
behind the back.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But it's not even the real Jordan cheeto. That's not
I looked at it and thought to myself, that doesn't
even really look like it.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Where's the swh It looks like like John Travolta's Saturday
Night Fever.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
All right, here's my question. If someone did buy that
thing and they offered you the opportunity to take a bite.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Would you Yeah, out of which body?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Part are you biting a leg and arm the head?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Anything? That's are you are you biting that booty?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Off?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Does?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Does the fact that the second you bite it, it
devalues the entire thing. If there is any value, but
the second you bite it, it just devalues the whole thing,
Like that doesn't factor in your mind.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's why I want to do it.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
That chet's probably stale is a mother lover by that,
that's true, that thing is petrified by Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Those things hold their flavor forever.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I think that's part of the issue with art Cheetah
stand up like everyone just diet.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Well, I mean, how do we know this wasn't like,
you know, if there's not like super glued in like
the pieces to where it's like three or four.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Different pieces like pieced together to try and make it
seem I'm sure it's been authenticated.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
How then they should have made it better than that.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
If you're going to authenticate a freaking flaming cheeto that
you're gonna call a jump man cheeto, they shouldn't have
like a hell boy arm holding the patsketball. It should
be like a legit arm. It should be a legit
basketball a legit pose if you're going to do it, Like,
I don't get this, Like this is like one of
those deals where it's like, oh, I took a picture
(34:30):
of a cloud that looked like the Lion King, Like
there it is right there, I remember, you know, like
there it is right there.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Stupid.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I've never Jesus toast. I've never understood the flaming hot
Cheeto craze.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I don't people love them now.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I don't like them either, because aren't they Wasn't there
like some sort of a diet that was used in
them or.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Some sort of They started banning them from schools and stuff.
My kid couldn't even take them. They banned them, couldn't
take them to school in your lunch.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well that's good?
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean is that good? I mean my
kid didn't like it. I went I went to a
lobster spot the other day and they had flaming hot
Cheetos lobster fries and those bad boys hadjlapenos on them
to fire going down. But my stomach hurt for two days.
(35:19):
Are going out to them? Oh it was not good.
That was an ugly sight there. I mean, I was
like cramped up. You know, bent over with pain and
anguish from the flaming hot great imagery.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Moving on, I want to ask you guys. You guys
fly Southwest.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Group over here, everyone around throw your eyes to the plane.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Well, I think generally most people are are glad that
they're getting away, like from the first come, first serve seating.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, they're not cute. We've talked about this. It's not
till twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Well, I mean still it's on the way coop there.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
I mean, there's everybody is upset about the the no
longer getting the free check bags. Now, that's what everybody
is upset about. It's a damn shame. And Southwest is
trying to defend themselves on Instagram. They just put out
they put out a post saying it's not like we
traded Luca Diesis are they?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Are they a Dallas base? Yeah, okay, well that's amazing, tang.
We're ruining all your guys's travel experience. But by the way,
just look over here, don't look at us. Dallas bag is.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
The is the Mavericks Arena? Is that American Airlines Arena?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It is?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
So this was thea oh, I see what's happening here.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Airline crime there.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Yeah, well, let me tell you something, right Southwest, you
want to compete with American airlines, good luck, they're.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
A thousand times better.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
I've flown both and it's not even close. I understand
people are gonna say, hey, one's like a discount airline.
Don't care, all right, even in like a smaller American
airlines playing much better. By the way, you know where
American airlines can take you Happy Valley?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yes, Southwest.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I've never seen a Southwest flight into Happy never seen it.
Never seen it.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You can't get a Southwest flight either.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
No, Rome don't want them.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
But you can with the American airlines.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Are you going to Rome soon? Coop? No, but I
flew American airlines to Room in the past.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Flex. That was a little flex right there, because good
for you, Coop, flex on them, Coop. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Those liar liar royalties come in. You're lying, we did.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
We need to keep pumping up the film. Do you
still get a residual from that movie?
Speaker 8 (37:47):
Yeah? I don't think it helps. If people like stream it,
that doesn't really matter. No, But when it's on like
ABC or something, that's the big money.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Oh, that's the big money.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, like the thirty bucks. What were you right?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Dang hey for the year, Dang dang, Coop.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
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Speaker 4 (38:21):
A little fun, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
But they're still good.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
No, it's Coop's leftovers because Lee ain't here.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Coop, what do we got? What does Lean normal to
talk about during this segment? You just he'll make up stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
His relationship, drinking, his relationship and drinking.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Okay, I mean, like, I mean, I don't know that
we do we want to touch on his relationships today?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean I've got a lot of questions. I
think you guys are drawing some bad conclusions.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Example, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Uh, you know, talk about movies and coming out this
weekend that he uh you know, it just it's kind
of whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Lea comes up with.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
All right, Well, I mean I guess, uh, I guess
I'll talk about me then.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
I just booked my longest ever trip in Vegas. It
is a nine night stay.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
What yes, might as well move there.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
I'm going for the World Series of Poker. Good luck,
Let's go, thank you, let's yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Now, are you staying at MGM Park, MGM Park or
whatever it is Park.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
MGM this time, I'm gonna be staying at MGM Grand Okay,
hell yeah, because they step up. Well, I mean, I
like Park MGM, but that's my favorite hotel on the
strip because it's, yeah, the whole place is non smoking,
and I just I can't stand this park place. Yeah,
it's it used to be the Monty Carlo and then
they rebranded to Park MGM.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
It's gotten Italy.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
It's really nice. It's got the Vet's Steakhouse, one of
the best restaurants've ever been to. Uh and like I said,
no cigarette smoke. So that's that's why I love it.
And it's connected to the Aria, which is my favorite
poker room on the strip. But MGM Grand has a
direct monorail straight to the Paris Slash Horseshoe, which is
where the World Series of Poker is taking place.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I think I told you about that.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Yeah, I think I think Loraina did tell me about that.
So that's that's why I decided to pick that whole time.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
How many times have you done the World Series of Poker? Uh,
this will be my fourth and most you've won, there's
been Why like two thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Do you have to qualify? Or can anyone enter?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Anybody can enter? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, I thought it was a little more exclusive than that.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
All right, Well no, I mean, like you all start
off with two thousand dollars. No, well, so how does
that work? No, I'm just I'm trying to understand because
in the World Series, aren't you playing for like millions?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
Well, so the whole the whole World Series of Poker
is like eighty something different tournaments. The one that everybody
watches on TV is the main event. And what's exclusive
about that is you have to have ten thousand dollars
to enter.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Hey, what's your tactic?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
You know, everyone's good like bluffing? Like, how do you
like hide when you're trying to bluff?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Well? I mean I don't want to reveal like my whole.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I don't think somebody listen to listen to I think
you're saying I'm a I'm a pretty tight player, and
I kind of make that my reputation at the table.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And then so when I.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Go, well, how do you do that? Like what do
you just tell people? Like, hey, guys, I'm a pretty
tight player. Just want you to know, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No, because if off fold, you know more often.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
You can when you fold?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Do you show people your cards sometimes just to like
let them know and give them a little bit of
a hint what's happening.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (41:55):
Sometimes, but when I like, you know, when I get
to show down a lot, I'll I'll have it. Or
if I'm betting somebody out of a pot and they
fulled before we get to showdown, I'll flip my cards
over to be like, hey, look I actually had it.
I wasn't I wasn't bluffing. And so I like to
get that reputation going, and then I picked my spots
because now my reputation to the table is like, oh,
(42:16):
when this guy bets, he's got something.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Lure them in exactly, I can trust you a little bit.
And then now, yeah, then you do stick it in
their back.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Good for you. Yeah's you know, that's one of the strategies.
And so you what, two thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
So now, what place did you finish in that tournament
for two thousand dollars out of how many people?
Speaker 8 (42:34):
That one was actually last year it was the tag
team event, So I actually entered with my wife and
we both played.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So that one it's wait.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Wait, wait, wait, what's it called.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
It's called the tag team event, So you can you
both played the same stack, and at any point your
teammate can come in and take over playing. So it's
kind of cool because when you get a bad beat
and you get all like tilted, you're all frustrated and
start making bad moves. If instead of that happening, you
can be like, all right, tag me out, I'm gonna
(43:12):
go cool off in the you know, the restaurant or
the bar or whatever for yes, and then come back
a little relaxed.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Wouldn't that like give away the strategy? Like wouldn't that
let everyone know you had a bad beat?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Possibly?
Speaker 8 (43:26):
But then you've got another player coming in who who's
got a totally different, you know, style, and is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Also part of the challenge, like having to stay awake
and locked in for that.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
Oh yeah, that's so, I say that's the biggest things
in poker is is endurance?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Are people like you know, walking around with like a
vial of hooker suggar and like pulling it out of
their coat pocket.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
I think there's a lot of that probably, Okay, all right,
but I mean like the best of that, you know,
I just assume.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
But like the best of the best poker players, they
you know, they.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Treat their body right and you know they're getting the
right amount of sleep.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
It's nobody's drinking, Like, nobody's having a cocktail while they play.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Some people are, but the but the serious ones don't.
And so when's this happening again? Well, the whole world
series is from like, uh.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
Like middle of June or the beginning of June to
the beginning of July. But I'll be there for like
a little over a week at the end of June.
And so that'll be Lee having a takeover for you
those days most likely, Yeah, probably double duty. Yeah, perhaps,
all right, perhaps you know he makes it back.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Either Lee or Bree.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
What a Bree? What's right?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
But wish me luck. Perhaps I'll come luck that winter.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
And if I do come back and race the winter
by I might not come back at all.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
All the way to go out. You are lying, Coop.
You did great today. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Thank you around right, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
I love doing it. All right, good man, all right
Speaker 3 (45:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It might be time for one of these remaining quarterbacks
to make a decision at some point or another.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is it them?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I mean, well, you know, we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Russell Wilson is It feels like he's kind of waiting
on Rogers to make his decision. He went to Cleveland yesterday,
left there without a contract, and then now he's scheduled
to visit the Giants later today, which is interesting because
I think Joe Flacco also is set to meet with
the Giants or met with the Giants about, you know,
possibly joining on. And Russell Wilson before he signed on
(00:46):
with Pittsburgh last year, the Giants were the other team
that he met with before, so there is some familiarity there,
so maybe it would make some sense for Russ in
New York with the Giants potentially.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Is common sense, though, feel like Aaron Rodgers is the
domino the things the fall first, Like once Aaron Rodgers
decides where he's going, then that kind of lines up
everyone else. And and the difference I think for and
we talked about this a little bit yesterday, the Giants
and Pittsburgh for example, is you know Pittsburgh, they obviously
you didn't want fields, or if they did, they weren't
willing to offer something that the Jets were willing to offer.
(01:22):
It doesn't seem like Russell Wilson is in their plans.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So if that's the.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Case, then you're really putting all your eggs in the
Aaron Rodgers basket. Or you got to feel really good
about either Jackson, dart or Shoud or Sanders. However they
see those two quarterbacks and potentially maybe dropping to them,
or maybe they feel good about someone, you know, in
the second round because they've done that before. But either way,
(01:48):
like they're kind of in a tough spot. Now, maybe
they can work out of trade for Kirk Cousins. But
as we listen Albert Brier talk about and I kind
of touched on yesterday, it's gonna be tough because of
his contract. I mean, Atlanta's gonna want a draft pick
back in return, and they're probably not going to say
we're just willing to pay whatever in his contract to
(02:10):
get rid of him, like we like him as a backup.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He played banged up for us last year.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, Michael Panics is the future, but we've already paid
Kirk Cousins at this point, especially if they end up
painting him the ten million. So if all that happens,
it's like, well, at that point, there's really no leverage
for Atlanta get a deal done. It's all in Pittsburgh,
and they're making moves this offseason that make you feel
like they're trying to, you know, be all in this offseason,
(02:38):
if you will. So I look at it and think
the decision by Rogers is probably the one that's going
to set off the dominoes and it's gonna then set
up Russell Wilson then potentially set the stage for Kirk Cousins.
And again, I think some of that has to do
with the fact that it's an indication of how teams
are probably feeling about this draft class, and also maybe
(03:01):
they're their current situation right Like if you're looking at
the New York Giants based on how this past year went,
We've talked about.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
That at length.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
They've got to win some football games because they probably
feel like they're in quarterback hell right now with the
way everything's gone.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Can I run just a thought or a theory by
you guys, and you tell me what you think of it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Can we get some music to go?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, yeah, Robert Stack maybe is it a conspiracy theory?
Not really, It's it's just more of a what is
Rogers thinking at this point in time?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is it like a beachy Amish theory? The possibly?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean it is there is that which which is.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
A Randalls with socks on.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh you know what's great about discussing the homage? They
don't listen, so you can't piss them off. It's just
like you're not gonna get any blowb Well, these.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Ones actually they do.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I mean, as I pointed out to yesterday with the video, Yeah,
I mean, and they by the way, they can they
can move those feet, man, yeah they can't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They all look very similar.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Lorena is married to this one right here, and she's
really wanted to play this one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, this is yeah, this is not not anything to
do with the thought of the theory on Rogers.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So here's the way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If he's got these two options and it's the Giants
and the Steelers, and he's got a pre existing relationship
with Mike Tomlin, they like.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Each other a lot nice and there's.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The potential that he can at least win some games
and have a shot at a super Bowl in Pittsburgh.
Then it feels like the choice is easy. If this
is all about one year and I'm trying to while
I can put myself in the best position possible to
win a super Bowl, the decision's easy. It should be
Pittsburgh and it should be done with because the Giants
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aren't that so the only reason it would take this
long is if there was another option, And if the
other option is Minnesota, the only reason that Rogers would
be hesitant at all would be because of the Brett
Farr conversation surrounding it that he's following in the exact
footsteps of Brett Farv. If Farv had never gone to Minnesota,
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I think this is a done deal. He's a Viking
right now, but I think that he's trying to get
over that and decide whether he wants to follow that
same path or he wants to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't think the Giants are in the equation. I
think this is more of a.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Steeler's or Vikings decision, and both seem to be very
interested in bringing them in.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Why are they taking so long? That's that's the QBS. No,
I don't. I don't think it's about the QB's making
a decision. I think it's about the teams making a decision.
I think they're waiting on Rogers.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I really yeah, I actually would disagree that. I know
one team specifically is waiting on Rogers.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I mean, so they've already there's already been offers put
out there, and it's like, I can't make the decision yet.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, it's not about the office being put out there.
He's got to decide where he wants to go. There's
probably some framework of it, but it's more about figuring
out like, hey, is this the place that I want
to go play? And then you can kind of hammer
out the wrest of what the deal is going to be.
But so he's holding teams hostage, then damn right. And
here's the thing is, we just started the new league year.
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Like I know, it feels like these quarterbacks are taking
a long time, where the teams are taking a long time.
We just started, like we just made a lot of
what's able to happen in the off season in regards
to free agent signings and trades official. So it feels
like forever and honestly, we're the we're because of that,
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We were.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
To blame for this.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You feel that way, and I'm not sure if you're
aware of this. It is AE hundred percent on you,
on me, on Jonas, on everyone else in the sports media.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What do we do?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Because as soon as the Super Bowl's done, what do
we do? We fast forward to the draft, we fast
forward to the off season and the NFL and maybe
Roger Godell's you know, partial part really to blame for
this too, But this is what they wanted. The NFL
wants you to feel like it is a twenty four
to seven, two undred and sixty five days a year
league that you're gonna be talked about and there's gonna
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be drama and it drags out. I mean, even in
your favorite shows, there's certain things that drag out and
you're like, my god, can this just end?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
That's why we're at where we're at. So in this
particular case, well, I do think we're.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Gonna get something to happen by Monday. I'll say that much.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But I know there's one team for a fact that's
waiting on waiting on for Rogers and they want to
go with a veteran quarterback. So once that, as I
said before, once that domino falls, we can then you know,
see some other movement.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But the reality is, like think.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
About the Kirk Cousins situation, nothing's probably gonna happen till
the draft, right because that's the deadline, like deadlines do deals,
and that deadline for trading for kirk Cousins services with
that contract hammering out what that looks like, that's gonna
be probably till the end of April. Like you're not
gonna get your best to offer from either side, whether
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it's Atlanta or probably the team that's trading for him,
until there's more clarity as to what the frigid quarterback
market looks like and probably a better idea of what's
happening in the draft, Like you might see a team
that ends up taking Kirk Cousins because they didn't get
a guy in the first round and they don't want
to be standing there without a quarterback to go in
and be competitive this year, So that that scenario may
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play out for a while. So it feels like it's
just been dragging on. But to be honest, it just began.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I mean for me, I don't feel like it's been
dragging Oh. I just feel like when the new league
year hits, that's when the deals get done. That's when
you have the money to do it. Now if they're
holding money in this this instance, in this case, and
it's you know, it's a special situation or not not
normal because it's a quarterback that's that's involved. I mean,
but a lot of signings take place, and a lot
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of reasons why it's it's imperative if you're going to
be a free agent that you become a free agent
as early as possible before the league year starts, other
than like waiting until you get to right before training
camp or anything starts, and then you get released. Then
there's nothing left. There's no jobs for you, there's nothing left.
(09:23):
So for me, I don't feel like it's like a
dragging out thing. I feel like it's, ah, you want
to figure out what your workforce is and when the
new league year. By the time the new league year
gets here, you have an idea who you want to
go after and who you want to bring in. I
don't think you're just trying to figure out today if
you're trying to bring in a guy that that's going
to be available or possibly somebody that you could trade for.
(09:47):
So I do understand that it does drag out sometimes
like it you know, there's trades that take place right
before the draft. There's trades that take place during the draft.
But I think those are different. I think there's a
different set of circum stances of rules of engagement for
free agency and trades right now than it is the
further we get away from the start of the league year,
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the closer you get to the.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Draft.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Can I give you a list then of quarterbacks who
did not sign right away? Yeah, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,
Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers the first time around.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean I can go on, like.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
There's a much longer list of guys that goten signed
before the like that signed. These are quarterbacks, sure, I mean,
but I'm saying the guys at the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, And I'm saying that there's gonna be guys like
Daniel Jones, maybe Sam Darnold with that situation, I ever
works yourself out, but like not the other guys, like
not like we're talking about some of the other guys
we're talking about in this instance, right, both.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Big name guys.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
But I think all of those guys had circumstances surrounding
them too, though Now it wasn't that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Cumstances surrounding them.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If you want to argue about it, you can argue
about it, but the history would not would not actually
support what.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're saying for other players.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Sure, but Daniel Jones that situations are surrounding him, right,
very good.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
That's well, yeah, there you go. That's a circumstance surround you.
The names there are really good players.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But Sam Donald he had circumstances kind of surrounding him, right.
He didn't think he was very good. Then last year happened.
Now he was really good.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Now they're trying to figure out like what is and
and honestly, if you're Sam Donald, the reason why you
take Seattle as fast as humanly possible is because you
don't want to get stuck in the waiting game, because
what was if Seattle was like, hey, we actually had
a really good conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We're gonna wait and see what he makes.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Decision he makes first before we want to try to
sign anyone else, because we don't want to be the
team that likes Aaron Rodgers, wants to sign Aaron Rodgers,
but then doesn't want to wait on Aaron Rodgers to
make a decision. You don't want to be that team, right,
I mean, it's it's kind of the same thing when
people everyone's claring for Peyton Manning. Like I'll never forget
when free agency started, I was in Kansas City and
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I remember there was a sign on like a theater
like trying to you know, promoting trying to sign Peyton
Manning and none of that was done yet. And I
remember talking to the Denver Broncos and I was tying
the Kansas City Chiefs and literally like the Broncos were like,
we're almost positive we're gonna get him, Like we're almost
positive we're gonna get him, Like you can come in here,
you could be the backup all that stuff, and it
was enticing. I was sitting at a hotel room in
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Kansas City thinking, man, i'd be you know, I don't
want to back anyone up, Like that's not ever what
I want. It's ultimately not what I decided to do
or didn't. I went to a place where I thought
I had a better chance of playing. And at that
point though, I was like, well, there's no guarantees he's
gonna pick to go there though, and I don't know
how long is it's gonna drag out. So I made
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a decision in retrospect. It was like, well, if you're
gonna back someone up, like there's probably never or there
are probably a few people you'd say you want to
go sit behind than Peyton Manning. And maybe it's Tom
Brady's other name, right, I'm not sure who else you're
throwing that conversation. I mean, Jordan Love has done great,
sem Heid Aaron Rodgers. I get some conspiracy theories out
of that, but you know, I'm just saying it's sometimes
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it depends on the persons situation and they might be
saying their agent might be saying to them, don't wait
too long. Take whatever offers there for you instead of
waiting for like, you know what you feel like it's
a perfect spot. So everyone's got, you know, a different
situation circumstances, but like for these guys, they I mean,
look at for Rogers too, it's how is the final
chapter of his careers get in right?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And that's why That's what I was about to say.
Ask with everything that you're saying. Then that leads me
to the next question of why does why is Aaron
Rodgers taking so long?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Is it a matter of what you're talking about with Minnesota, like, oh,
because of Brett Favre, Like, I wouldn't bait if I'm
going there because of that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I wouldn't give a damn if it matters if it
looks like I'm following the same pattern that Brett Fahr followed.
I didn't care less they got players in Minnesota, by the.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Way, that wasn't I think Jonas might have said that, Yeah,
I don't personally think that factors in at all. In fact,
I actually feel like there's certain circumstances where Brett will
provide insight into, you know, one of the teams that's
potentially looking at him because of you know, the past
history with a coach, kind of understanding like how this
coach works, you know, et cetera. So I actually think
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Brett could be one of the pieces that helps shape
Aaron Rodgers' mind on where he goes, who.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Gets him, who's more likely to win a Super Bowl?
If he joins their squad, Pittsburgh Minnesota Like who gets
him closer? I think it's Minnesota. I think they're both
improved teams. I mean now and they I think they
would both be very dangerous if you get the Aaron
Rodgers we think we're getting. I just think it's I
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think Pittsburgh makes more sense because I believe Mike Tomlin
can balance out those moments that get out of balance
when Aaron Rodgers is on your team. That would be
the single deciding fact I think personell wise, I would
go towards Minnesota being the more talented team, the more
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the team that has probably a better opportunity to make
it all the way versus the AFC North and with
the Steelers. But with that being said, I think Mike
Tomlin would provide would provide a stable situation as and listen,
I know Kevin O'Connell is a dope coach. I just
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don't know enough about him to know if he could
handle what comes with coaching Aaron Rodgers. I just know
you're not gonna see any type of that with Mike
Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. And that could be a great
environment for Aaron Rodgers to be in at this point
in his career where he doesn't have to be Aaron
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Rodgers because Mike Tomlin is the Mike Tomlin for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. All he has to do is just go
out there and play ball.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Is Mike Tomlin's going to shoulder all the weight of
all the criticism and all the things that are going
to come your way as it applies to being a Steeler.
I think the best situation for him would be Pittsburgh
because of the stability of what they have going on.
Not not a knock against Minnesota, just saying that, I
think from that perspective, I would say Pittsburgh, and I
don't like way Pittsburgh at all, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I think one of two routes. Like with Mike Tomlin,
everything that you're saying is dead on. You know, he's
going to have a structure, he's gonna have his way
of doing things. You're playing for Mike Tomlin. If it's
Kevin O'Connell, it's like a partnership. I think, Yeah, I
think he's much more open to working with him. Very
similar to how things operated kind of with Kirk Cousins.
You know, how they see the offense, how they see
the game planning, et cetera. I think it's a much
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different feel and that might be also something that takes time,
Like you do you want to go play for a
coach where you feel like that coach is your coach?
You know, kind of a Tom Brady Bill Belichick type relationship.
Do you want that? Or as Tom Brady kind of
searched out, I think he thought, you know, Bruce arians
was probably like that to some degree, but he felt
like he was more of a player's coach and more
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of a partnership there with that. But for for Minnesota,
you know, you sit there and say, like you got
the young JJ McCarthy, Kevin O'Connell's probably like, yeah, I'd
love to work with Aaron Rodgers, right. I would think
that Minnesota from the team perspective, they probably look at
the Aaron Rodgers' potential signing and say, this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Would be better for us in the long run.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Unless Pittsburgh decides to sign Rodgers than draft a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, there's really no one there waiting to develop.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So it's an entirely different circumstance. I think from Pittsburgh,
where it's more of an all in mentality for this year,
this short window of time, and maybe that's where they're
at because of how things have been with which have
been good with Mike Tomlin, but not to the Pittsburgh
Steelers standard.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
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Speaker 2 (18:11):
App So, apparently there's a a little bit of a
beef going on in the NFL that I was not
aware of. I was not aware that this was actually
a thing. But DeMarcus Lawrence, who just signed a deal
with the Dallas Cowboys or excuse me from the Dallas
Cowboys with the Seattle Seahawks, he was talking upon his
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arrival in Seattle about his feelings about the city of
Dallas and the Cowboys, and he had this to say.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
You know, Dallas is my home. I made my home there.
You know, my family lives there. You know I'm forever
going to be there. But you know, I know for
sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So yeah, So Micah Parsons caught wind of the video quote,
re tweeted it on X and said this what rejection
and envy look like? This some clown ass with a
clown emoji, to which DeMarcus Lawrence responded, call me a
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clown won't change the fact that I told the truth.
Maybe if you've spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
I wouldn't have left. So we've got one former cowboy
and a current cowboy going at it, and I gotta
be honest with you. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is probably
right he wasn't gonna win a super Bowl in Dallas.
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But Michaeh. Parsons is not fond of the commentary there,
So go ahead, que I mean, LeVar, I'll take it
after Q. I'd love you sent me up like debian.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Here's the one thing I'd say, all right, it's I'm
not just really sure where the beef comes from.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
What's going on here? All right?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
DeMarcus Lawrence, he's not an interesting past. I would focus
more on him and what's happened in his career. Do
you recall like you had back to back double digit
SAX seasons for Dallas, like he was on the trajectory
that you're looking for with a player of his caliber.
Remember you got franchise tagged played great that year. I
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kind of hit at the right spot. It's not about
one hundred and five million dollar contract. Since that time,
he's really struggled, I mean with sack, production, injuries, all
of it. In fact, like I think he subsequently took
a pay cut like year after year there in Dallas.
Now I think he's making a little more in Seattle
than what he was, you know, making in Dallas before.
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But it's odd because I would have thought when Micah
got there and you had DeMarcus Lawrence, like this was
gonna be a tandem that plays together forever and we
were gonna start talking about that tandem as you know,
those edge rushers that helped finish a game for the
Cowboys if they were ever gonna win a Super Bowl.
And it's unfortunately been anything but that. And it's not
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because of Mica it's more because of DeMarcus Lawrence. So
I was more curious about the signing in general for Seattle.
It feels like one of those signings that you know,
what do you like, what kind of player do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You think you're getting?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, in all seriousness, if you go back and
look through kind of you know, his stats and how
he's played and and everything, it's like, is that the
move that you're you're kind of trying to make at
this point? If you're Seattle in a year that you know,
you bring in Sam Darnold, you're putting a lot of
eggs in that basket. Defensively, that's Mike McDonald's calling card.
I don't know how really good they were last year.
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Maybe feels like they're a better scheme fit for him.
But that was more of the angle I kind of
had on this was it's, look, you know, player Beef's
player Beef. That's between whatever those two had going on.
But I would say this like going to Dallas if
you were a Micah Parsons and then getting there and
seeing what DeMarcus Lawrence was before and then what he's
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been of late, it probably was disappointing. You know, for
a lot of people, there are a lot of Dallas
Cowboys fans. After one hundred million dollar deal, there's a
couple of things I started thinking. First thing I thought
was Boise State took an l to the Niitney lines
in the Fiesta Bowl. That that could be where some
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of this kind of you know, originated from, is that
you know, you're looking at Micah and you're like or
you're looking at the situation and you're like, you know, well,
the Nitney lines were better than the Boise State what
are they Mustangs?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
What are what are the what's theirn broncos?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Maybe maybe he felt a certain type of way about
that starting there. You know, maybe the beef maybe resonated
from maybe a little trash talk about the college playoff.
Obviously Lawrence being from Boise State and Micah being from
Penn State. You know, who knows which. By the way,
Micah was was he out there getting now that was
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an Orange Bowl?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Anyway?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Then I started thinking also an extension of of that
would be I started thinking about all of the conversations
about the relationships being reported that Micah has strength relationships
in the building, and those mounting strains on relationships could
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play a part in how Jerry Jones and his son
Stephen looked at re signing him back to this team. Well, clearly,
now you have another one to add to the list
of people that maybe we spec you could speculate didn't
didn't have a great relationship with Micah. I think you
can confirm now that there's safe to say there's a
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disconnect between him and DeMarcus Lawrence. To say say what
Micah said with the jealousy and envy part, there's something happened.
There was an interaction there. It was made evident, at
least in Micah's you estimation, that DeMarcus is jealous of him,
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that he's envious of him, and now he had the
opportunity to say it. DeMarcus Lawrence responding the way that
he did in a lot of ways confirms if you're
thinking Mica thought a certain way about how DeMarcus Lawrence
felt about him, he confirmed it in his response. I
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didn't think it was the best of comebacks for DeMarcus
Lawrence because we all know that DeMarcus Lawrence was on
that team that didn't win more and he only played
seven games and didn't contribute any sacks, any force fumbles,
any anything really of significance.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He did have sax he had seven sacks or three
three three sacks, my bad, one force fumble. It just
wasn't very significant contribution. To this team this year. So
I think when you look at it, when you look
at it from a critical perspective, clearly coming back with
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with the responses saying we would have won more if
you wasn't tweeting, more like as your focus on the
fact that this man has taken over for Bleacher Report
and has a significant, you know, role in what it
is that they they rolled out with this new platform
that they launched. Does that hit you the wrong way?
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And if so, why why can't you guys work together
figure it out and be the better for it? Why
does it have to be you know, drama between the
two of you, And I mean, he felt comfortable and
Micah felt comfortable enough to call him a clown on Twitter,
which I thought was in a lot of ways he
could have been. He could have been bigger and better
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for it. I think he was offended or or hurt
by the fact that he said what he said. But
you can't have beef with Michael Parsons on on a
response when your statements are basically taking a shot at
the Cowboys and their personnel. And that's why I left.
They're not going to win. You guys are losers. Basically,
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you're not going to win, So I'm leaving, getting the
hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I mean, I'm team DeMarcus in this all the way
I think. Uh, I think he represented himself nicely. He
got paid, and I think everything he said.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
I think you're being an instigator, But I don't. You
can't instigate me on it because I don't care. That's there,
that's their that's their situation. I mean, do you buy
do you buy into to what DeMarcus Lawrence said? Like
to me, if you buy into what DeMarcus Lauren said,
then it's it's it's all but fair for for Michael
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Parsons to respond the way that he did. That is
some clowns to sit there and jump out there and say,
on your way out, I knew I had to leave
here because we ain't winning no Super Bowls all life.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
What about all the guys that are staying well, the
Seattle I mean, like, like, let's be honest with ourselves,
Like who's got a better chance right now? Is the
Dallas Cowboys of the Seattle Seahawks. I would too, I mean,
I don't think it's particularly close. Can you look up
the the betting odds?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I look them up. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Now, Jonas doesn't have the betting odds, but always up.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Do you really have?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys and the Seattle Seahawks identical odds
to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That's that's disturbing.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I would take the under of Seattle right now versus
Dallas at this moment.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I mean, look, he's right though, they're not going to
win a Super Bowl. And I know this is something
we don't have to say it, well, you don't have.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You don't have to take a parting shot at your
your your your teammates like you might be looking at
it like I'm taking a parting shot at the organization,
and that's maybe more justified, but you got to take
into consideration. When you do that, you're taking a shot
at all of the people that are remaining on that
roster and working there. You're basically saying, y'all stink. So
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I'm out.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'll say this though, as far as the emojis go,
Michael Parson's clearly won because he used the clown emoji
and DeMarcus Lawrence used like that little purple devil emoji,
and the clown emoji is sneakily the piasso, the payaso
emoji is sneakily a really insulting, immature and funny way
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to respond to somebody, to totally dismiss anything they have
to say.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
If you just send me a clown emoji, it's wonderful.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
To Levar's point, though, it's like, look, Dallas paid you
one hundred and twenty eight million, hundred and twenty seven
million or whatever it is over the course of your career, Like,
I don't know that you need to take a parting
shot to justify why you're in Seattle. I mean, the
reality is it's probably they were going to pay you
more than what you were going to get paid in Dallas.
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And if you go back through that high water mark
of a contract, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence was he kind
of started to take some pay cuts, you know, after
that one hundred million dollar contract. You know, he went
from that to a three year, forty million dollar deal.
Whereas average annual value is less, his signing bonus was
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half of what it was. And my guess is Seattle
was willing to pay him more so than what Dallas
was going to And mind you, he's making less with
the Seattle Seahawks than under his previous contract, the extension
he signed and reworked contract after one hundred million dollar deal.
So it does seem unnecessary. I don't again, I'm not
(29:45):
going to speak to a relationship between two players.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I have no idea. Maybe it is the Bowl game
or something. I don't don't know. Ye, I don't know, but.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I would just say this, It seemed unnecessary, and I
think there's some validity to what LeVar was saying, Like
the Lawrence was that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
He was that guy.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Defensively for them at one point time for a couple
of years on that team, and after Micah Parson's rookie season,
that'll shifted drastically where I'm sure everything off the field
was going to Mica, going to Mica, going to Micah,
and I'm sure that's frustrating after being that guy for
a couple of years in a place that is arguably
(30:23):
the biggest brand in the NFL.
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Speaker 3 (30:52):
Coo Cood Cooper.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Function in case you weren't aware, Cooper Malfunctions.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Are the new flaming hot item on the auction block.
You see what I did there? Yes, good job, thank you,
well done.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Thanks sanks.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
That sort of thing we're recently, we're coming off a
auction where a a flaming hot cheeto in the shape
of the Pokemon charizard sold for eighty seven thousand dollars eighty.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Dollars to be exactes.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
And now the same auction company, auction House, auction House.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There we go.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
They are now auctioning off a flaming hot air Jordan
Jumpman cheeto.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That is, looking at the pictures, ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I mean, whoever buys it, please make sure I have
the address. I'm willing to go to jail for slapping
that s out of the person for whoever bids on
this this flaming cheeto.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
There are currently three bids and it is at three
hundred dollars at the moment.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
That is ridiculous, Olvis hair, It's not Michael Jordan, and
he's holding both he's holding the ball with both.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
His hands, and he's junk in the tree.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
He's got a straight BBL going on, going on, straight BBL.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's why they got his butt so big on that cheeto. Man,
that's no.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I mean, three hundred dollars is ridiculous for a cheeto.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's so stupid.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
We spend eighty seven thousand on the Pokemon one loser.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, and how is that thing packaged?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
It doesn't look like it's presented very well on the photo,
you show.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Man, dumb Okah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
That's kind of flaming hot, big booty cheeto. That's that's
called the Michael mj jump Man. You don't even have
one hand going back. You got to have the hand
behind the back.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But it's not even the real Jordan cheeto. That's not
I looked at it and thought to myself, that doesn't
even really look like it.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Where's the swh It looks like like John Travolta's Saturday
Night Fever.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
All right, here's my question. If someone did buy that
thing and they offered you the opportunity to take a bite.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Would you Yeah, out of which body?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Part are you biting a leg and arm the head?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Anything? That's are you are you biting that booty?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Off?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Does?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Does the fact that the second you bite it, it
devalues the entire thing. If there is any value, but
the second you bite it, it just devalues the whole thing,
Like that doesn't factor in your mind.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's why I want to do it.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
That chet's probably stale is a mother lover by that,
that's true, that thing is petrified by Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Those things hold their flavor forever.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I think that's part of the issue with art Cheetah
stand up like everyone just diet.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Well, I mean, how do we know this wasn't like,
you know, if there's not like super glued in like
the pieces to where it's like three or four.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Different pieces like pieced together to try and make it
seem I'm sure it's been authenticated.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
How then they should have made it better than that.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
If you're going to authenticate a freaking flaming cheeto that
you're gonna call a jump man cheeto, they shouldn't have
like a hell boy arm holding the patsketball. It should
be like a legit arm. It should be a legit
basketball a legit pose if you're going to do it, Like,
I don't get this, Like this is like one of
those deals where it's like, oh, I took a picture
(34:30):
of a cloud that looked like the Lion King, Like
there it is right there, I remember, you know, like
there it is right there.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Stupid.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I've never Jesus toast. I've never understood the flaming hot
Cheeto craze.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I don't people love them now.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I don't like them either, because aren't they Wasn't there
like some sort of a diet that was used in
them or.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Some sort of They started banning them from schools and stuff.
My kid couldn't even take them. They banned them, couldn't
take them to school in your lunch.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well that's good?
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean is that good? I mean my
kid didn't like it. I went I went to a
lobster spot the other day and they had flaming hot
Cheetos lobster fries and those bad boys hadjlapenos on them
to fire going down. But my stomach hurt for two days.
(35:19):
Are going out to them? Oh it was not good.
That was an ugly sight there. I mean, I was
like cramped up. You know, bent over with pain and
anguish from the flaming hot great imagery.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Moving on, I want to ask you guys. You guys
fly Southwest.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Group over here, everyone around throw your eyes to the plane.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Well, I think generally most people are are glad that
they're getting away, like from the first come, first serve seating.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, they're not cute. We've talked about this. It's not
till twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Well, I mean still it's on the way coop there.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
I mean, there's everybody is upset about the the no
longer getting the free check bags. Now, that's what everybody
is upset about. It's a damn shame. And Southwest is
trying to defend themselves on Instagram. They just put out
they put out a post saying it's not like we
traded Luca Diesis are they?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Are they a Dallas base? Yeah, okay, well that's amazing, tang.
We're ruining all your guys's travel experience. But by the way,
just look over here, don't look at us. Dallas bag is.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
The is the Mavericks Arena? Is that American Airlines Arena?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It is?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
So this was thea oh, I see what's happening here.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Airline crime there.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Yeah, well, let me tell you something, right Southwest, you
want to compete with American airlines, good luck, they're.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
A thousand times better.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
I've flown both and it's not even close. I understand
people are gonna say, hey, one's like a discount airline.
Don't care, all right, even in like a smaller American
airlines playing much better. By the way, you know where
American airlines can take you Happy Valley?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yes, Southwest.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I've never seen a Southwest flight into Happy never seen it.
Never seen it.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You can't get a Southwest flight either.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
No, Rome don't want them.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
But you can with the American airlines.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Are you going to Rome soon? Coop? No, but I
flew American airlines to Room in the past.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Flex. That was a little flex right there, because good
for you, Coop, flex on them, Coop. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Those liar liar royalties come in. You're lying, we did.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
We need to keep pumping up the film. Do you
still get a residual from that movie?
Speaker 8 (37:47):
Yeah? I don't think it helps. If people like stream it,
that doesn't really matter. No, But when it's on like
ABC or something, that's the big money.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Oh, that's the big money.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, like the thirty bucks. What were you right?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Dang hey for the year, Dang dang, Coop.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
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Speaker 4 (38:21):
A little fun, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
But they're still good.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
No, it's Coop's leftovers because Lee ain't here.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Coop, what do we got? What does Lean normal to
talk about during this segment? You just he'll make up stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
His relationship, drinking, his relationship and drinking.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Okay, I mean, like, I mean, I don't know that
we do we want to touch on his relationships today?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean I've got a lot of questions. I
think you guys are drawing some bad conclusions.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Example, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Uh, you know, talk about movies and coming out this
weekend that he uh you know, it just it's kind
of whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Lea comes up with.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
All right, Well, I mean I guess, uh, I guess
I'll talk about me then.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
I just booked my longest ever trip in Vegas. It
is a nine night stay.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
What yes, might as well move there.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
I'm going for the World Series of Poker. Good luck,
Let's go, thank you, let's yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Now, are you staying at MGM Park, MGM Park or
whatever it is Park.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
MGM this time, I'm gonna be staying at MGM Grand Okay,
hell yeah, because they step up. Well, I mean, I
like Park MGM, but that's my favorite hotel on the
strip because it's, yeah, the whole place is non smoking,
and I just I can't stand this park place. Yeah,
it's it used to be the Monty Carlo and then
they rebranded to Park MGM.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
It's gotten Italy.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
It's really nice. It's got the Vet's Steakhouse, one of
the best restaurants've ever been to. Uh and like I said,
no cigarette smoke. So that's that's why I love it.
And it's connected to the Aria, which is my favorite
poker room on the strip. But MGM Grand has a
direct monorail straight to the Paris Slash Horseshoe, which is
where the World Series of Poker is taking place.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I think I told you about that.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Yeah, I think I think Loraina did tell me about that.
So that's that's why I decided to pick that whole time.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
How many times have you done the World Series of Poker? Uh,
this will be my fourth and most you've won, there's
been Why like two thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Do you have to qualify? Or can anyone enter?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Anybody can enter? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, I thought it was a little more exclusive than that.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
All right, Well no, I mean, like you all start
off with two thousand dollars. No, well, so how does
that work? No, I'm just I'm trying to understand because
in the World Series, aren't you playing for like millions?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
Well, so the whole the whole World Series of Poker
is like eighty something different tournaments. The one that everybody
watches on TV is the main event. And what's exclusive
about that is you have to have ten thousand dollars
to enter.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Hey, what's your tactic?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
You know, everyone's good like bluffing? Like, how do you
like hide when you're trying to bluff?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Well? I mean I don't want to reveal like my whole.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I don't think somebody listen to listen to I think
you're saying I'm a I'm a pretty tight player, and
I kind of make that my reputation at the table.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And then so when I.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Go, well, how do you do that? Like what do
you just tell people? Like, hey, guys, I'm a pretty
tight player. Just want you to know, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No, because if off fold, you know more often.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
You can when you fold?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Do you show people your cards sometimes just to like
let them know and give them a little bit of
a hint what's happening.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (41:55):
Sometimes, but when I like, you know, when I get
to show down a lot, I'll I'll have it. Or
if I'm betting somebody out of a pot and they
fulled before we get to showdown, I'll flip my cards
over to be like, hey, look I actually had it.
I wasn't I wasn't bluffing. And so I like to
get that reputation going, and then I picked my spots
because now my reputation to the table is like, oh,
(42:16):
when this guy bets, he's got something.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Lure them in exactly, I can trust you a little bit.
And then now, yeah, then you do stick it in
their back.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Good for you. Yeah's you know, that's one of the strategies.
And so you what, two thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
So now, what place did you finish in that tournament
for two thousand dollars out of how many people?
Speaker 8 (42:34):
That one was actually last year it was the tag
team event, So I actually entered with my wife and
we both played.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So that one it's wait.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Wait, wait, wait, what's it called.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
It's called the tag team event, So you can you
both played the same stack, and at any point your
teammate can come in and take over playing. So it's
kind of cool because when you get a bad beat
and you get all like tilted, you're all frustrated and
start making bad moves. If instead of that happening, you
can be like, all right, tag me out, I'm gonna
(43:12):
go cool off in the you know, the restaurant or
the bar or whatever for yes, and then come back
a little relaxed.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Wouldn't that like give away the strategy? Like wouldn't that
let everyone know you had a bad beat?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Possibly?
Speaker 8 (43:26):
But then you've got another player coming in who who's
got a totally different, you know, style, and is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Also part of the challenge, like having to stay awake
and locked in for that.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
Oh yeah, that's so, I say that's the biggest things
in poker is is endurance?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Are people like you know, walking around with like a
vial of hooker suggar and like pulling it out of
their coat pocket.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
I think there's a lot of that probably, Okay, all right,
but I mean like the best of that, you know,
I just assume.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
But like the best of the best poker players, they
you know, they.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Treat their body right and you know they're getting the
right amount of sleep.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
It's nobody's drinking, Like, nobody's having a cocktail while they play.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Some people are, but the but the serious ones don't.
And so when's this happening again? Well, the whole world
series is from like, uh.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
Like middle of June or the beginning of June to
the beginning of July. But I'll be there for like
a little over a week at the end of June.
And so that'll be Lee having a takeover for you
those days most likely, Yeah, probably double duty. Yeah, perhaps,
all right, perhaps you know he makes it back.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Either Lee or Bree.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
What a Bree? What's right?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
But wish me luck. Perhaps I'll come luck that winter.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
And if I do come back and race the winter
by I might not come back at all.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
All the way to go out. You are lying, Coop.
You did great today. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Thank you around right, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
I love doing it. All right, good man, all right
Speaker 3 (45:11):
M hm
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