April 1, 2025 • 54 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas returns from Birthday shenanigans. Beware of dumb stories on April Fool’s. Senior NFL Reporter for CBSSports, Pete Prisco joins the guys live from the Annual Meetings in Florida. Nate Oats joins the club of coaches heading for “greener” pastures.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar airings and rating. Winn and Jonas Knox
on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Okay, welcome back, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, how.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Happy birthday, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Oh hey, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate
it one hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, not to me.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
We uh we talked yesterday about how we would never
really know your birthday.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So we thought maybe you were taking it off for
your birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, no, never do that.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Okay, yeah, that would never That's not true.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Ah no, it was.
Speaker 7 (00:39):
It is interesting though, you know, like on the eve
of April fools, like you celebrate your one hundred and
fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Gotten.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Hanging around upside down and uh yeah, I got to
got to hang out with the little man, took him out,
got him some baseball stuff, did some uh you know,
it turns four. So I had the Uh my wife
likes to go really above and beyond when it comes
to the birthdays, which I was not. Uh we don't
really get all that growing up, so it's a little
(01:15):
weird for me to see the uh the production, the presentation,
but uh yeah, she loves it. And then then it
just turns into a giant mess and I have them
to clean it up.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But do you have to clean it up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, buddy, welcome to fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it's like, is that a I enjoined that club yet?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Because my own plan on it either.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Maybe the next one.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yeah, is that a dad thing? Because yeah, maybe, with
the exception of LeVar, I think. I mean, look, dad's
responsible for cleaning up the messes. Basically, right, taking the
trash out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Take the trash, I do. Take the trash out.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Sometimes your kids are old enough to you can give
them chores, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, that's why. I mean, Hey, I was told that
you were made to work like I used.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
To have to get out.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
I can recall being dead sleep and I hear them, Hey, hey,
wake up out of your sleep.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Come here, turn the light on. Go back to your room.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Like ten minutes later, Hey, hey, come here, Hey, change
the Uh this how old I am? Change change the
channel channel four?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, back to their number remotes.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
What Yeah, you're the remote, Hey, come here, change change
the Yeah. Yeah, put on channel channel eleven, channel eleven
yeah WPX.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah yeah right there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Okay, thanks, oh oh yeah, yeah, hey, hey, give me
a glass of water too, you know the one that
I liked, the big gold cup that that I saved.
Yeah yeah, with some ice, okay, uh yeah, okay, thank you,
uh uh, and the lazed potato chips. I remember it
like it was yesterday. So I don't do that ass
(03:06):
as an adult. I mean I do it, but I don't.
I don't do chores all like that because I was
chored out as.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
A kid man. Yeah, but it doesn't give you anxiety
like it gives me.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Borderline anxiety to see everything laying around, the wrapping, the boxes,
all that just laying around. I got to grab it
right away or else it just.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Gets right off.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Because because that's the other thing is that's a male trait.
Most men, they want to get the job done. Like
they see something they're like that needs to get done.
I'm gonna do it now. Well, because you know, we're
female trait to want to do it now that it's
all set, it done.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Really, Oh yeah, my wife does that all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I'll just get it in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
In the morning is over.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I will stay up later to clean it up because
I don't want to wake up to the mess because
that'll just piss me. Off again. I don't want to
be annoyed twice. So I just want to get it done.
Otherwise it's going to be in the back, like you
gotta do this, you gotta go clean that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I just would rather get it done.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
I gotta give Church credit because that's what that's what
she does. I mean, she does that. She knocks out.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What do you what do you do?
Speaker 8 (04:14):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I do nothing. I don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy Mother's Day. Here's a hefty here's a hefty bag.
Yeah yeah, get to work. Hey, you know, I stay
out of the way. You want to know what I do.
I'm a professional, like staying out of the way.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I hear, I hear vacuum cleaners get going and stuff
like that. I get out, I get I get away
like it's an assault rifle.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Hey look here, man, yes, get down.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Know where your exits are.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Hey man, I get out of the way. I smell fabulo,
So I go right back out the door. If I
walk in the house and I smell fabulo, so immediately
upon arrival, I turn around, I go right back out
the door. I'm gonna go get a coffee or something.
I'm check the oil, something I'm gonna do something, but
I'm getting a hell up out of the way.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So what if she what if she asks you to
help it, says hey, I'll help me, and I'll even
offer I offer it.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And I've been with her long enough where she understands
that I'm only offering as as a technicality to say
that I care enough to offer, but please do not
take me up on it. Do not take me up
on my offer. And we've been looking together long enough
(05:44):
for her to know that. So thank you, Chrich, appreciate that.
But she handles everything. She's she's cooking barbecoal right now,
like right now, she's up like making barbico right now.
It's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna be ready by noon
or one one pm. You know that was that twelve
thirteen fly out there for that bro. It is the
(06:06):
flame with the cilantro and onions, that the mix that
she puts together.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And you know, I've been eating keto. I've been on
this Keto deal and that's all meat right Well no.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
It's it's like it's like you stay away from what
like uh, starches and stuff like that, anything like super
unhealthy or whatever like I don't really know what it means,
but that's what I've been told, and I'm just following
the routine. It's been good though, I mean, my belly
has felt better. Yeah, what's going on over there?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Then?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What you got? I mean, you got all kinds of bendon.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Gave me a brownie, you got safe safe to Mally's.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
A matter a matter of sixty seconds, LaVar got a
bag full of Tamali's and a brownie.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that Keto can kiss my ass.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Well, I listen, I'm not loyal. I'm not loyal to it.
Very few things. I'm loyal to man, and I ain't
loyal to a diet. I ain't never met a diet
that I was like faithful to ever in my life.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Never. So there you go. There you have that.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Happy birthday, Drew, happy birthday, And I'm glad your daddy'd
be cleaning up after your ass.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Yeah, all right, he says grossiest by the way. He
was getting a little irritated though. You know, he was
ready to get it in and you was holding him back,
you know what I mean. Yeah, he uh, he had
a little moment there.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Huh. That was a few.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Moments, but yeah, he uh yeah, it was wild, you know,
I mean it's a four year old birthday party.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah. And how many people were there? How many how
many were in attendance for him, not for you to
parents for him.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
For him? There's probably thirty thirty kids. No that not
that many kids.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
How many kids, That's what I'm saying, not for a
count to twelve kids?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Like yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot. Was he overwhelmed?
He just wanted to play bowling the entire time. He's
just bowling the entire time, the entire time.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Now does he get the bowling like it's from you?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
He just loves playing like air hockey, uh, pop a
shot bowling like he loves likes to compete.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Are you are you trying to kind of like almost
Todd Marinovitch your son right now? Are you trying to like,
you know, it sounds like and if he turns into
a meth head that like walks around in other people's fountains,
I'm not going to be held accountable for it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's not me.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
That's middle just saying. It sounds like you're trying to
build him up right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Damn Andrew Lee damn Andrew the lap knock. Hey Lee,
how is Lee doing this morning? I mean's been solid, man.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
I haven't seen any I haven't seen any breaks or
or cracks in the armor lately. Man, he's been you know,
I don't know. Man, he's been coherent.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He's been boring.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean, is that Is that how you describe it?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, you know what's going on? You know, yeah,
because there's things I'd rather be too.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But you know, you know, do you not feel better?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No? No, I feel worse. I feel like I feel
the pains. Is it happening on the air. That's crazy,
my man?
Speaker 7 (09:47):
My man said, living straight has has made me feel worse.
They say it's supposed to make you feel better when
you make like a you know, a life switch like that.
You know, like, I don't know, it seems weird, but
hey man, you know you've looked solid to me.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He ain't came in here with the no snort, no snorts.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
No no, no lazy eye, nothing, no banged up knee,
nothing hurt hey man on the inside. Yeah, hey man,
I'm just saying get older. Good for you, Lee, Yeah,
good for you, man.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Thank Everybody's uh now, when do you plan on dipping
into those Tomali's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When's that going to happen? At the break?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I told you I'll have one or two. I don't listen.
If it's good, I have one or two. If it's
not good, I'll have a bite, take a bite of it,
you know, just saying Tomali's. Could could decide not to
agree with me, and me not agree with the tomali
And I don't want to end up on Lee's time, you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Know, washing it down with coffee though, that's it probably
gonna end up poorly.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
That's not Yeah, that's not positive. That natural diuretic. That
ain't That ain't a good thing. Definitely not well. Have
everyone happy April Fool's Day.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
It's everybody out there there you go, anybody, This is
a sports show, cheeseball cornball jokes.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Social media has made it so much worse than it
used to be used to be. You just said you
had one goofball clown friend who would make a joke.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like a terrible dad joke, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Or a terrible name joke.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Like what like Mike about that?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
And he did admit that he did not co sign
on that for digital.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
No, I did not they wanted me to collaborate on it.
I would not collaborate. I would not I'm not giving you.
I'm not giving my.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Audience to me getting Mike it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Really you think it about it because you told your
son about it on FaceTime and you're like, yeah, they
DS nuts me, and I'm like, yeah, it really is
the nuts.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
It's just very culturally different. Like y'all caught me off guard?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Was that the white guys DC It must.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Be because I've never heard of a crotch joke being
like delivered to your face. It's always nuts being delivered
to your face.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's a play on a name.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
It's a d's nuts D first name, D last name.
It's yes, it is no. Whenever you say who, you
get somebody to say who, you say.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
It's It's entirely different because it's it's it is.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I get it. It's cultural. That's it.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I just was entirely it's not cultural either, more of
a has more of a play on the actual name itself.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's I have never heard a black man.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Say Mike Crotch, like Mike Crotch, Mike rotch Seymour.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Exactly. Seymour.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Butts is a real that's a real thing, though, like
that is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Know that point.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
It's more about the name, bro, Forget about it. Forget
about it's cultural.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I think this is why you missed it in the
first place, and only open yourself up having this happen
again in the future.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
In the future, it will, it will, It's possible. It's
but I got my guard up.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Now.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
You know you won't get me with a Seymour butts
like you won't, like you will not. You will not
get me with a micro anymore, like y'all won't.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Y'all won't get me.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I told you the other one I thought about using.
I was like, yeah, I'll get thrown off the air. Yeah,
that wouldn't have been good. That's not that one would not.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Well, yeah, but they won't land with me anymore because
now I'm in on your shenanigans, like your cultural shenanigans
of how y'all want to use name?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You know, Okay, every single time we give you a
name of an article, I won't forget a question it. No,
I will not address it. I will not address it.
Every time I hear you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Say a name connected to an article I will not address.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The interesting thing is on hold on it. You said
that what we were doing was immature.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It might be even more immature now that you're not
willing to talk about anything.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We have to bring up with a name of an article.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Maybe maybe, and y'all.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
And y'all chose to do it at the perfect time,
because I know I got a tad bit emotional when
y'all were coming that, Abdul. The way that like this
article is that reason this mother lover wants to come
at Abdul.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
What's this guy's name?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Oh, Mike Rotch Okay, you punk, like, okay, come see me.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So I'm gonna call my shot here and I will
say this, as far as April Fools goes, Roberto Berto,
our former techno, will be the first one to send
over a link to the San Francisco Dude. Yeah, you
know the website with the guy sitting on the edge
of the bed with a Doberman hanging down from.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
His last Yeah, so that'll be that. Roberto will be
the first one to send that over today. Mark my words,
he's not away.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
And then he'll be like, no, just click it, just
stick it, And I'm like, no, Berta.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
We all know what this is, bro, It's just an
old joke.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Hey, I would you kick that link or what fool?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah, I'm so upset.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Did you say the headlines today? Like? What what was
the headlinst? Oh? You know what?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
You know what, I've actually got a little bit of
people have been starting April Fools early. So the Tampa
Bay Airport actually put out a tweet I think like
three days early, and it was supposed to I guess
preempt April Fools. I can go find the tweet. It
(16:04):
basically said they were shutting down the airport because so
many people were complaining all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I don't know who runs their social media account, but
they need to be fired.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
But like, that's the other thing that bothers me about
April Fools. It's not a big enough deal, or you
need to start it in March.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, Like are you don't need to start in April
at all?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like, can you just move on from it? It's not funny. Yeah,
people are gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So if you do get any sort of a link
from the SF Chronicle, just be be warned. There is
there's something on the other side that would not be
appropriate for certain people year around, just adds up. It
is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
So we are gonna have the usuals. We got another
edition of in case you missed it, We've got Lee's leftovers.
(16:49):
Pete Prisco is gonna stop by as well too, but
it's an early edition of Prisco an hour two. Because
Lee he's got some sort of a breakfast. Pete's got
some sort of a breakfast. He's gonna be hanging out.
Uh he eats breakfast is like hanging out.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
With like is a GMS. He's got a GM breakfast
or a coach.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah, okay whatever, So Pete's gonna yeah whatever, Pete.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
He'll talk to like two coaches because most of them
hear what he says and they'll try to avoid.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Him at this point.
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Speaker 5 (17:33):
We welcome in the smooth operator himself. He is Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst.
You can get him on x at Prisco CBS. Pete,
good morning. What's the uh the Blowhard Festival look like
down there?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
You know, it's the usual, you know what the breakers
where everybody they charge thirty dollars for a drink and
everybody that isn't in the NFL. Actually, when they go
to the bathroom, money comes out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
What's money for Pete?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
What's that money falling out for Pete? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Yeah, because they got so much of it. It's all
stuffed in everywhere.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, Oh, I get it, Pete. How beautiful is
that place?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Though?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Yeah, you know it's really nice. But I mean, you know,
it's not my cup of tea. You come on, I'm not.
It's just not me, Brady.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know me better than that.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
I'm just And by the way, we used to be
able to stay here back in the day, you know,
like what happened, Well, they give you a media rate,
so you know you could turn in a decent media rate.
Now it's like, forget about it. Now you realize that
there's only six rooms per team now, so anybody they
have still over hotels for the people that you know,
(18:48):
they are the lessors in the organization when they come down.
So it's it's it's stuffy. Come on, it's gotten really
as stuffy as the place is, it's even stuffier.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
That's the place where the yachts are out back and
you could just go get over your ch it's up
against the beach.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Oh no, there's a there's an ocean right there's an
ocean right there, you know, like you've got an ocean
where you're at. We got an ocean over here.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
There's two of them, you know, the far Yeah, I
know that, you know, I do realize that you're you
are in Florida, correct, you know?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, Okay, some.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Rays turn, you know, you know what I'd like to
be doing that beach, sitting on that beach.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Get yeah, I know you love that son, Pete Prisco, Uh,
what what have you Uh? What have you ascertained since
you've been there?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
What's what's been the best information that you feel like
you've gotten a hold of since being at the meetings, Pete?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
But you know what I do here, I do a
lot of draft stuff here. I kind of gather on
guys and to get information and try and figure out
who's going to take who and who what people think
about it, and and look, you know, people lie you.
We know that I've been lying to many a time
over the course of the history of coming this league.
But I'm not sure that the Browns are going to
take a quarterback at two like everybody thinks they might.
(20:03):
I just don't think that's the case. And maybe I'm
misreading it, but I just don't feel that that's what
they're going to do. I do think that the Titans
are leaning into the quarterback at one. I wouldn't do that,
but I think they are leaning to take the quarterback
at one. Then you get, what are the Browns do?
I think they take your kid from ten state if
(20:24):
that's the case, although the injuries are concerned, there are
some injury issues there. And then you know, then what
do you do at three and four? I mean that's
the next question. What do the Giants do? I'm not
sure they're going to take a quarterback? And then you
know what happens with the Patriots, And so I think
it's kind of what happens with is anybody going to
force the quarterback? Because I think they all feel like
(20:44):
they're going to force the quarterback if they take them
there at two, three or four, I mean two or three.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Pete, don't want to ask you about the question that
I'm sure everyone is exhausted about hearing discussing talking about
and that's Aaron Rodgers, like, is anyone's talking about it?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Do they care what decision and he makes at this point?
Are they just exhausted with the entire topic.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
It feels like every single offseason for the past few years,
this has been a topic of discussion.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
And don't you think he likes it that way too?
I mean, I mean, it's unbelievable. I'm with you, Brady,
I mean every single day. And we did a hit
on him yesterday, you know, because because he threw with
DK Metcalf and now he's good. You know, is that
the Steelers all retire when maybe he'll retire or no,
is he gonna do what? Yeah, I'm with you, and yeah,
people are tired of that. They wanted them to make
(21:28):
a decision. I think the Steelers want them to make
a decision. The Steelers have to do something. You know,
Tomlin came out yesterday. Yeah, we're happy, We'll play with
the Mason Rudolph. Sure you will, Okay, good luck with that.
I mean, you're not gonna play with Mason Rudolph. So
they need Rogers. Here's the I think part of the problem.
What if they signed Rogers is still only going to
be a small, you know, one or two year deal.
(21:49):
If that's the case, they could still draft the quarterback.
And I think they should draft the quarterback at some point.
So I do think that that that it's tiring, and
I think he likes it that way.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio at
Prisco CBS. He's at the league's owners meetings down in Florida.
Here joining us here from the tirerack dot Com studios.
I got to ask you, what are your thoughts and
what are the thoughts on maybe people you've talked to
down there, on Jimmy Haslam basically just saying, yeah, we
kind of screwed out with the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We have big, big swing and a miss there. What's
the feedback you've gotten from people?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
You know, It's funny, how often do you hear and
somebody say an owner say that about a player still.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
On his rosters. You said that earlier.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I mean it's unbelievable. You don't ever see that. You
know what I said yesterday, I said, the guilt got him.
You know, it's like when you have some something inside
you you're holding in for years and finally you let
it out. You got I gotta get it out. I
blew it And we all know that's one thing he
didn't admit though. He didn't admit it with him. He
said it was an organizational move. No, Jimmy, it was you.
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You're the one who wanted Deshaun Watson. You're the one
who wanted to give up all those picks. You made
the move. But it's so rare to see somebody, you know,
call somebody a swing in miss when you're still on
the roster. And like I said yesterday, I said, swinging
a missus being kind. That's only one swing, It's only
one strike. This is like striking out fifty times in
a row. It's the worst trade in the history of
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the NFL. And it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Dang. I want to go back to Aaron Rodgers conversation. Pete.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
I just want your opinion on this. Do you feel
like what you just said in terms of them needing
a quarterback and Aaron Rodgers may not be certainly not
going to be the long term solution for the team.
Do you feel like he's waiting because he wants to
see if they're going to draft the quarterback and who
will that quarterback be. I mean, there's a possibility that
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you could draft a quarterback that could end up taking
his job during the course of the season, or you know,
maybe get the job right out of the gate. And
I mean, listen, I know Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers,
but I don't think that it's beyond the realm of possibility.
That's something could go wrong and that guy that you
drafted ends up playing and Aaron Rodgers loses his opportunity
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to start. Could that be playing a part and why
he's not making a decision right now?
Speaker 8 (24:14):
It could be because all you guy, it's called Kirk
Cousin's disease, That's what that is. Remember he went fine
with the Falcons and they drafted a quarterback and he
lost his job. But again, where the Steelers are picking.
I mean, if they picked let's say for example, they
picked Jackson Dart, you know, is he going to beat
out Aaron Rodgers in the first year? Probably not what
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they're doing in that scenario, I think is is, you know,
kind of fixing it for the future with a guy
that's ready to play in the now because Jackson Dart's
gonna have to adjust in the NFL game. It's totally
different than what he did at Ole Miss. So I
think that would be something that they would look at.
But in the back of Aaron Rodgers' mind, after seeing
what happened to Kirk Cousins, you might be right, LeVar,
he might be waiting to see what's happening.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Hete SR go ahead there, Jonas, Yeah, no, I did
I cut you off for it was my turn of
your return.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm whose turn is. I don't know I screwed.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Go ahead, Josh.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I was going to ask, is there is there any
sort of.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I don't know if it's heated disagreements when it comes
to the Tush push, Like how contentious has that gotten?
As far as the discussions you've heard from people enter
around the NFL.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
You know, I'm hearing a lot of people against it,
and and I think, you know, there's some growing sentiment
that it might get you know, pushed out of the league.
I mean, here's my take on I hate I hate
the play, I really do. I hate it. I despise it.
I don't think it's a football play, you know, and
so I don't like to play. But after listening to
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Sirianni at the Combine explain how they came up with
the play, how they practice the play, how they work
on the play, and how everybody else sits there and
can't stop the play, then I'm just saying, Okay, well,
maybe it's time everybody figure out a way to stop it.
Because I hate the play. It's not fun to watch.
It's ugly play. But again, they came up with it,
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they've fixed it, they work on it, they rep it.
Nobody's ever gotten hurt on that play, and so why
are you going to try and legislate it out? And
so I think it, But I do think that there's
a real strong push a lot of coaches don't like it,
a lot of people don't like it, to get it out,
and I think ultimately it might get out today.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
You know, it's funny, Pete, we were talking about those
torpedo bats that apparently have been used longer than we've
we've realized, or at least have known about, and people
have said that if they end up removing them, it's
because of like competitive imbalance, right, it'd be like too
much towards the offense. And I think if it's not
about the safety and health of players, because no one's
got injured at least thus far, the other thing would
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be like a competitive balance where the play is so successful,
almost like the pat where it became kind of like, oh, well,
we know they're gonna get it first out here, you
know what I'm saying. So maybe that's more of the
angle to it, and I think, go ahead, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
It's become so mundane that Okay, well they're going to
get the diverse out the point right, it's.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Like similar to the point I have to touchdown.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
So that's like the only angle that I could potentially
see it in that. But do you get a sense
as far as how they're gonna implement replay anything else
they're going to do in regards to the Competition Committee
and some of the initiatives they try to push around
this time of year.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Well, you know they've been discussing those eighteen games, and
you know that's coming, and that's that's the next one,
and you know, when it becomes it's not going to
be next year. I think it might be the year
after that. But when it does, it's coming, and they're
gonna have to figure out a way to play eighteen games?
Do you get two by weeks? Do you give back
something in the offseason? I mean, there's gonna be how
many preseason games is probably eighteen and two. I mean
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if they did away with the preseason, that would be
okay too, or at least you know one one preseason?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Is that because you hate working the preseason?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Pete?
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
What it's about?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
What you say, Brady, is that because you hate working
the preseason?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
I just know you know what they should do. I've
always been a big believer, and they're now more and
more teams are doing it. Go work at three days
for work. When they go work with teams, and they
do in the preseason, guys don't even play anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I agree with that, Pete. I agree pre.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Maybe one preseason game to get some guys some real contacts,
some real hitting, and then that's that's it. I mean,
I think it's too much and so cut it down.
But again, what are they going to give back? Ask
me this, and you guys both play. Do they work
out too much now? And there's that's why there's so
many soft tissue injuries. It's a year round thing, and
I mean their bodies are getting I mean there's some
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theory that that's the case.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
I don't think that they they work hard enough and
that's why they get more injuries. If you ask me,
it's gotten so soft that they don't. You don't hearten
your body for for what it is that you're going
to deal with. That would be my assessment. That's that's
how I look at it. They don't hit, They don't
do anything at all.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
No, no, no, the hitting. I get the hitting part,
but I'm with you, they don't hit at all. They should
hit more, But no, I'm talking about like guys now
are already at their facilities working out with their trainers
and they so they take like four weeks off and
they go right back into it. Then they go to
the team so soil we start working out there. Then
it's OTA's Then it's a mini camp. Then they take
the then they have the break and then they still
work out with their trainers during the break. Then they
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go back in his training camp and boom, you're right
back in the season. I don't think they let their
bodies rest anymore. Back in the day, guys would get
it done the season, go get a job on the side,
smoke ten packs of cigarettes every week. Then they up
then and then they show Then they show up and
do one mini camp, then they go home again and
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work their job, and then they come to training camp
to get in shape. And I think there were less
of those soft tissue injuries.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah, pe News Flashes twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, No one's ripping.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Darts in the sidelines like Lenn Gawson drinking a beer.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
All right.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Times have changed a little bit, and there's probably a
litany of reasons. I don't know if we're going to
solve those problems today. One team moment time about New
York Giants. What do you foresee them doing? They sign Russell?
I know you're not a fan of him. They signed Jamis.
You're probably not as much of a fan of his either.
Do you still quarterbacks and player? Are you hearing that
or is it a better chance that they stay put?
Take whoever Cleveland doesn't take at two. As far as
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the Abdul.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Carter Travis Hunter, I think they're leaning that way, Brady.
But because you know again and talking to people around
them and around the team, I get the sense that
they kept their options open by signing those two. They
don't have to force it now. And like I said
last week, I told you guys that you weren't there.
I told those guys, I said, eddyrook if they drafted
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a rookie quarterbacks, they could learn how to hold the
football from those two, that's for sure. I mean they're like,
they're like Exhibit A and Exhibit B on that football.
Come on, But I think quarterback is I think quarterback
is in play there still. But I think they've given
themselves the best option. By the way, if they are
sitting there at number three and Travis Hunter is staring
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him in the face and they don't take him, they're foolish.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Okay, So so real quick on that note, what are
you hearing in regards to Shador and Jackson darr because
those are the next tow after cam Ward. Are you
hearing there's separation there? Are they close to some like
Jackson Dart better? Because I think there's a thought that
there's a clear separation in cam Ward and everyone else.
And is this potentially from what you're hearing, there a
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draft or you could only have one quarterback, maybe go
in the first round.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
I think you'll sit. No, I don't think you'll see
one go because you know how guys get desperate, Brady.
But the reality is one probably should go in the
first round. But I think the other guys will go
in the first round too. But there's not that much
separation between Sanders and Dart. But I'll give you a name,
and it's the guy I mentioned on the show last week,
and a guy I really like who's hot and he's
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moved up from what I hear. A lot of guys
like him, and he might go in the second round.
Kyle McCord from Syracuse is a hot name right now.
If you're looking for a quarterback of a guy who
might go higher than people are expecting him to go,
Kyle McCord is that guy. He's a guy that can
stand in the pocket, he can make the throws, he's
got a good arm, he's tough, not a great athlete,
but he can move a little bit. And he's a
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name I keep mentioned in it. And by the way,
if the Browns didn't take a quarterback at two, you
know where Kyle McCord went to high school. He went
to the same high school as Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
What about Milrow anything.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
On him project? You know, somebody's going to take a
shot on Mill Road in the second round. I think
the big you know, athletic can throw it. You know,
he's inaccurate, but he can. He's got tools, and somebody's
going to be enamored with that and take him in
the second round. Brady, I talked about this last year
last week when you were there.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I know. Wait, I was at a charity event.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Dude, I mean.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
A lot of I know, but I can still say
you aren't there, can't. I mean, whether you're on the beach,
you're playing golf, or a charity event, I can still.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Say you were, buddy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
No one sees the beach as much as you that's
on the golf course are.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
But but I mean, next year's quarterback class could be
really good, and so sometimes you might wait. You know,
but that's the problem. A lot of these guys don't
have to pay. Wait. You can wait next next year
and you get yourself a good quarterback there he is.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Pete, Can I ask you one more question? I gotta
I gotta ask and where you're talking about the tush push,
And I'm just curious is there any extra conversation connected
to the tush push, because I am of the thought
process that the pushing and pulling is totally out of control,
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Like is it just concentrated on the one play or
are they taking a good, long, hard look at the
fact that the players are being pulled, they're being pushed,
they're being hit from behind to move them forward.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Somebody made the point. I thought it was an interesting point.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
It's like, once the forward progress is stopped and it's
impeded to the point of where you you can clearly
see that the runner is not going to go forward anymore,
the place should be over, but it's not over, so
you let it continue to go on. But if you
drive that man forward, he gets his yards. If you
drive him backwards, they get forward progress. It doesn't make sense.
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So to me, are they having any added conversation to
the touch push in terms of pushing players. Has that
even come up in terms of connection with the touch push,
because it's.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, absolutely no, but.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
There is some there is some talk of tweaking the language,
and the touch push is saying pushing immediately the way
it's written out to pushing immediately after the snap, and
so how do you you know, what do you how
do you use immediately? So they might they might find
a way to get it out by changing the language
on it. Here's the other thing. When are the defenders
going to start pushing back? And you know what I mean,
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you can do it the other way too, and nobody
ever does it.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
But just I said, if you push them back, you
they still get their yards, they get their forward progress.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Each other start laughing, each other, start diving at legs,
and you know the whole deal. And you know what
happens underneath the podcast. Come on, you can start. If
they really start getting nasty with it, it could be
a nasty, ugly play. It's a gross play to watch
period as far as football, just like a kickoff or
extra point. They're boring plays. But until they're not going
to get rid of it now. I mean they're going
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to try and get rid of it now. And I
think there's some sentiment around the league today that it goes, uh.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Pete, we know you got to run enjoy it, trying
to have a couple of cocktails and keep us posted
if any reporters try and get in a fight anywhere nearby, like,
excuse me, I'm.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Going to walk. I'm going to walk into the breakers
right now.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Be careful with all that money falling out on the
bathroom floors.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
If they want to craft some of that money in
my direction, I'll be more than willing to clean it
up and take it great.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Pete Prisco here with us on Fox Sports Radio live
from the owners meetings there in Florida. He is senior
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
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Speaker 5 (36:17):
All right, so, some conflicting reports Natoates the Alabama head coach.
There was some stuff out there that maybe he was
interested in the Maryland job, and then there's some stuff
that has come out that said that he's not. I
don't know what to believe because it is April fools Day,
so who the hell knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But what we do know is.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
That there's that discussion, and then there's the discussion of
Frank Reich, who has decided on a one year, one
and done opportunity. He is going to coach again. This
time it's going to be at Stanford. Obviously, Andrew luck
Is there is there gm there with the Stanford football program.
He brings back his former coach. So Frank Ryan must
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really like coaching after going through what happened in Indianapolis.
And then David Tepper deciding I want to take another
try at this, and so he's going to help out
the Stanford football program for at least this upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
So yeah, I mean two completely different stories. But the
first with.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Dato Oats, I mean a lot of times when it're opening,
like a blue blood program like Maryland comes open, a
guy's gonna use this leverage.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I really didn't know if there.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Was credibility to it though, because if you look like
Kevin Willard left it was frustrations probably with their nil
at Maryland. And now you're hearing that Natotes is frustrated
with the distribution of nil at Alabama. Well, first off,
join the club for basketball coaches that are frustrated with
the distribution of money coming in for nil between football
and basketball. I'm sure there's a lot of men's basketball coaches,
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women's basketball coaches that feel that way. Although this is
what the numbers say. So you can try to debate this,
you can stay your claim whatever you want. The ball
generates way more revenue, way more profitability to athletic departments.
So that's the money maker. That's what always really should
get a lot of the funding if they want to
keep these athletic departments running. So to think that, then
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Nato it's at Alabama is frustrated with whatever he's getting,
which you know, again we talked about this yesterday, Jonas,
you want to hear. These basketball rosters now in the
NCAA are comprised of at least the competitive ones, the
ones playing in the final four, somewhere between the bulk
of three to five million dollars be a little bit
higher than that, but that's essentially what the roster costs.
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And we compared it to football, where Ohio States was
twenty million or over twenty million Michigan the year before.
They paid all the guys to stay and to come back,
and many other guys as well, who are transfers. You
came in, they plugged in. We've talked about all that.
What's interesting though, is that he would use this as
leverage if it is with Alabama saying hey, we need
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you guys to pony up more. I mean, if your
recall didn't Nick Saban back when he was coaching make
a flee out to his boosters too about getting more
actively involved in NL And we've seen a number of
coaches do this. And the unfortunate reality is the fact
that it's just not sustainable when you keep having to
come back time and time and time again to your
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alumni base and your donor base to keep funding your
rosters every single year. And so the House NCA settlement
can't come soon enough. Because that's a sustainable model. That's
one where you get all these universities that are part
of these conferences that have given out their their TV
rights and the TV money that comes in, they can
then reallocate a portion of that to really their their employees,
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their players, the guys who are on the field making
the money right or helping them make the money.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So that's that's really titles.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
How does that plan the title nine?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Well, that's the thing is there's not clarity as of
right now, how the House NCA settlement and Title nine
are going to coexist in that world?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
And there's two thoughts. There's equal opportunity and there's equal payment.
So you know, if you're looking at, hey, if you've
got the same amount of female student athletes who are
being paid from that House NCAA settlement with that rev
share as men. There's some that believe philosophically that would
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satisfy Title nine. There's others that believe that they should
be paid the same allotment of funds. And that's where
there's a fork in the road because if you again,
if you look at that model, and if we're just
we're talking facts here, Okay, you guys can dissect whatever
you want, but again, football, men's basketball, pretty much nothing
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else for men's sports and most schools is what generates income. Okay,
for women's sports, maybe maybe women's basketball. Maybe that's it.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Can I ask you this what I guess The question
I would ask is as far as because they're gonna
find the money, like you said, from the TV contracts,
when those TV contracts are done with the conferences, are
there specifics to why they're or where the money is
is like where the advertising dollars are going and different
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things like that. I mean, it would come across to
me that if the if you're saying, okay, we're doing
a deal with the Big ten, the Big Ten is across.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Fox, who's we like Fox? Say Fox Sports? Right?
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Within that language, how much of that language includes other
sports outside of football and men's basketball. Is it all
encompassing or is it specific to advertising during the NCAA
football season, advertising during NCAA basketball tournament, you know, something
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like that.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
So sim we put at Fox for example, is going
to to bid on the Big ten media rights, right,
and then you're gonna have CBS and NBC come in,
They're gonna sublet some of those rights out. It's then
incumbent on the networks to go to the advertisers and say, hey,
this is the live programming that we have, especially in sports,
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and this is where we feel like you should place
your ads. So it's really more incumbent on the network
to find that the advertising revenue, and it's not really
you know that the conference doesn't have as much to
say in that regard, right, because that's how the TV
networks are going to make back the money that they're
giving to the conference in exchange for the rights to
air their live product.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
The reason why I ask is because if we're moving
into a place potentially where the players are going to
be compensated by TV money, then you would have to
assume if if the bulk of your advertising through you
selling during the college football season, how can you justify
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title nine?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
How can you do it?
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Like?
Speaker 7 (43:09):
You can't say it has to be fairly and equally
distributed if those proceeds are being pushed out based off
of the performance of where the ad dollars are going,
I would assume right like if you're not doing if
you're because advertisers do they do flights, they don't. It's
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not like, oh, you gotta go an entire year. If
you do X here, then you have to do X there.
They're not going to be like, yeah, we're going to
put all our ad dollars during basketball season or during
off season, like during the summer, you know months of
the year. It's it's going to be football season where
all the AD dollars go. So how do you differentiate
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where this money is supposed to go? If you're trying
to indeed do an equal and fair split of the
proceeds that are come into the university.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, and I think that
burden is more on the universities that are bound by
Title nine than is the TV networks. And again the
advertising agencies that are a part of it. Now, those
advertising agencies, can you know, push, for example, to show
more advertisements at least in college sports, maybe back when
Kaitlin Clark or Angel Reese was at LSU, you know,
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whoever you want to kind of talk about those athletes.
I mean, by and large, if you're looking at how
the advertisement structure works, I mean, the advertisers are just
looking at a certain demographic of people and they're looking
for a number.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
So you know, obviously college football rates really well. The
NFL rates really well, But if you're talking about college sports,
college football is next up. Really it's second to the
NFL as far as ratings go. So if that's the case,
they're talking advertisers because they're getting X amount of viewers
for these games and that's where they're placing their ads.
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But some of it's cyclical, right, Like you saw an
election year last year, a lot of it's gonna be
politically driven, and there's times when, depending on how things
work out, there might be some makeups where you might
have some makeup ads in the back end of something
that didn't happen in the time frame you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You know, there's events, there's.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Like March Madness where CBS, you know, TNT True all
that stuff. They're selling those spots knowing they're going to
get X amount of viewers or hoping they're going to
get X amount of viewers, you know, for each one
of those games. Sometimes if there's poor viewership, you might
make it up. You might run some additional ads at
another sport at a later time to get you to
that number of people that you're looking at reaching. I
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mean that ultimately in that I'm trying to make this
simple the simplest way is what you're looking for. You know,
advertisers are working with brands to be able to reach
their consumers in a certain demographic. You know, TV networks
are saying, we know if you watch this movie, we
know if you watch this show, we know if you're
watching these games, this is the demographic that is consuming
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your products probably to or this is the demographic you're
trying to reach that you haven't so far, so we
will help you get there by the different array of
sports that we have. You know, you used the example
of Fox. They have NFL, they have college football, They
obviously have some MLS coverage, UFL coverage this time of
the year, Major League Baseball, and it goes on right.
They're into soccer, you know, men's college basketball, women's college basketball.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
There's a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
So there's different ways in which they can kind of
reach those demographics based on Fox Sports's portfolio of sports
that are live sport is sporting events that they have.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Let me ask you this because you were careful in
how you presented the facts when it came to who
draws revenue at schools and college et cetera, et cetera,
at universities when it comes to athletics. Is there still
pushback from people that think anything outside of football and
men's football and men's basketball. Is there still pushback that
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there's anything else that draws even a fraction of what
they do.
Speaker 6 (46:59):
I don't know it's not pushback, but I think there's
a thought and there's.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Some people who believe that men and women.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Should be presented an equal opportunity and they view that
opportunity as if there's a twenty million dollar perse, it
should be divided up equally amongst the men and women's
student athletes at different institutions.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
There's there's people who believe that.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
There's others who believe that it should be more proportional
based on, you know, what revenues generated from those sports.
And there's some that believe that, hey, you know that
if you want to go on the far end of
the spectrum, there's some that it should be you know,
ninety percent of football, the other ten percent, you know,
five and five to men's women's basketball, and then the
rest can figure it out on their own and if
they want to be a club sport or if you know,
(47:43):
alumni and donors want to them support those programs through
whether it's a collective or donations to the university, that's
how those sports should exist. So there's there's a lot
of different thought on this. Again, there's a reason why
the House in NCA settlement's talked about forever and yet
we still don't have a clear defined language on how
Title I will play a factor, what role collectives will play,
(48:05):
and trying to bring it all under hopefully one piece
of federal legislation, because otherwise you're gonna have different states,
and that's already happening. Now change their nil laws to
allow them to exist in a manner that gives them
an advantage compared to everyone else.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
I just wonder, does this make every other sport, Does
this make all sports club sports at the college level.
I'm just curious because and I wonder how it will
be received if, if at any point Title nine is
not a part of it, if the idea of the
funding going more specific to one, one place, one sport,
(48:44):
because again, if you don't have the funding to be
able to put it into the scholarships or the facilities
or the uniforms, and you know, et cetera, et cetera,
you know you're going to have to do away with
the sports that you have.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know you're going to have to cut them down.
Speaker 7 (49:01):
And that's always been an age old debate too, like
how much is enough? You know, It's like for a
long time, we didn't put any money into our hockey,
our hockey program. Now Pagola has been putting money in
our hockey program and shots out to our hockey programs
made it to us first frozen four. I just you know,
I just wonder how will that be received, will how
(49:24):
will the university handle that? I mean, I feel like
this sends a lot of shock waves, the ripple effect
of it not being a equally distributed situation. I mean,
it opens up potentially like a tremendously large conversation that
could go really really bad.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
It could go badly, like super bad.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
So the interesting thing that's becoming more the norm, and
what a lot of these institutions are starting to do,
is you're going to see players sign contracts and in
that contract.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
They'll be buyouts.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
So in a lot of professional sports there looked as
his transfer fees. So let's say, for example, a player
wants to go from you know, Alabama to Auburn, right,
they would have to Auburn would have to pay that
transfer fee in order to get the rights to that
player under that contract. So all those things are starting
to enter into the conversation. And what's fascinating about it
(50:24):
is without a collective bargain agreement or any sort of
overarching union that would be able to make sure this
is standardized, you're going to truly see free markets. Whereas
the most coveted guy whoever that is. Arch Manning could
probably name his price. You know, there might be a
year and a time in a university and a donor
who between the collective and the university would pay him,
(50:44):
maybe more than he would make in the first year
as a rookie being the number one overall pick. Now,
that could be completely false, but there's also a world
where that might exist if you find the right timing.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I mean, John.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
Ruiz one of the biggest boosters for the University of Myami.
He has been bashful at all about you know, paying
for male and female you know, student athletes, right like
the Cavender twins for example.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Who both have played basketball there.
Speaker 6 (51:09):
They have huge social media followings, They've got a slew
of different you know, advertisements and brands they're working with.
And you know, I'm sure they're making based on some
of the footage we've seen from Carson Beck and his
car is getting stolen and then where they still live.
I'm not sure that was Beck's house or theirs or whoever.
But nonetheless, they're making a ton of money off this,
and there's there's a booster who will be out there
(51:29):
to write that check just to say, hey, I'm the
guy who got this guy here, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what's kind of fascinating to me. But there's
definitely three specific things. I mean, you touched on, you know,
what happens with Title nine and how it's impacted by
the House in SA settlement. You know, who ends up
helping to protect the student athletes and set this up
in regards to a collective Bardain agreement or some union
(51:51):
at some point. And then lastly, like what role to
collectives play? Do they still exist? Do universities absorb them?
Is it like an arm of the university? And who
ends up regulating or governing that? Like, those are the
biggest questions right now that we still just don't know.
And even after the House NCAA settlements finalized, there's probably
gonna be lawsuits that are going to challenge whatever that
(52:12):
settlement is.
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Absolutely there will there will be one. Yeah, and I
think the I think the collectives will continue to be
the arm that that distributes the way that it is,
but it certainly will be probably governed more closely by
the university because it's going to be legal, They're going
to be able to bring.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
It in house.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
The one well, if it's brought in house and it's
really just me the universities. But the one thing that
they've talked about doing to create more transparency, which I
think everyone would like, is a clearinghouse where you have
the transparency to say, if a kid and his representation
is asking for two, three, four, five million, whatever it is,
you don't know what's true and what's not because there's
(52:52):
zero transparency now. So right now, you've got different websites,
whether it's twenty four seven sports on three dot com,
you know, pick your.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Pick, whoever you want.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
They will taut and they'll throw out numbers, all right,
And the only transparency you really have is what's called
called a Form nine ninety. So if you go and
look up the Form nine to ninety filings for every
nonprofit collective, you can actually see how much they've raised
and you can actually see how much has gone out,
so you get an idea of it. There's no specifics
to it, but it sheds a light on it. So
(53:22):
it's one of the reasons why when we talked about
a high state yesterday, they've got two collectives. With the
eighteen seventy Society, which is a for profit and then
the Foundation, which is a nonprofit. If you look at
the nine ninety for the foundation for those Buckeyes fans,
they haven't raised as much. The bulk share of that
twenty million roster, or however much it is, is coming
from the eighteen seventy society, because that's the one that
(53:44):
you can't see. But you have to assume if everyone's
getting paid what they're saying they're getting paid, it couldn't
come from the nonprofit side, because we know what.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
They're bringing in.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
I think it was like three million or something last year,
whatever it was, So you have to understand the lion's
share is probably coming from that for profit entity.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Good luck with that. Everybody
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar airings and rating. Winn and Jonas Knox
on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Okay, welcome back, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, how.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Happy birthday, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Oh hey, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate
it one hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, not to me.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
We uh we talked yesterday about how we would never
really know your birthday.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So we thought maybe you were taking it off for
your birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, no, never do that.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Okay, yeah, that would never That's not true.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Ah no, it was.
Speaker 7 (00:39):
It is interesting though, you know, like on the eve
of April fools, like you celebrate your one hundred and
fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Gotten.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Hanging around upside down and uh yeah, I got to
got to hang out with the little man, took him out,
got him some baseball stuff, did some uh you know,
it turns four. So I had the Uh my wife
likes to go really above and beyond when it comes
to the birthdays, which I was not. Uh we don't
really get all that growing up, so it's a little
(01:15):
weird for me to see the uh the production, the presentation,
but uh yeah, she loves it. And then then it
just turns into a giant mess and I have them
to clean it up.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But do you have to clean it up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, buddy, welcome to fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it's like, is that a I enjoined that club yet?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Because my own plan on it either.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Maybe the next one.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yeah, is that a dad thing? Because yeah, maybe, with
the exception of LeVar, I think. I mean, look, dad's
responsible for cleaning up the messes. Basically, right, taking the
trash out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Take the trash, I do. Take the trash out.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Sometimes your kids are old enough to you can give
them chores, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, that's why. I mean, Hey, I was told that
you were made to work like I used.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
To have to get out.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
I can recall being dead sleep and I hear them, Hey, hey,
wake up out of your sleep.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Come here, turn the light on. Go back to your room.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Like ten minutes later, Hey, hey, come here, Hey, change
the Uh this how old I am? Change change the
channel channel four?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, back to their number remotes.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
What Yeah, you're the remote, Hey, come here, change change
the Yeah. Yeah, put on channel channel eleven, channel eleven
yeah WPX.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah yeah right there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Okay, thanks, oh oh yeah, yeah, hey, hey, give me
a glass of water too, you know the one that
I liked, the big gold cup that that I saved.
Yeah yeah, with some ice, okay, uh yeah, okay, thank you,
uh uh, and the lazed potato chips. I remember it
like it was yesterday. So I don't do that ass
(03:06):
as an adult. I mean I do it, but I don't.
I don't do chores all like that because I was
chored out as.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
A kid man. Yeah, but it doesn't give you anxiety
like it gives me.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Borderline anxiety to see everything laying around, the wrapping, the boxes,
all that just laying around. I got to grab it
right away or else it just.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Gets right off.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Because because that's the other thing is that's a male trait.
Most men, they want to get the job done. Like
they see something they're like that needs to get done.
I'm gonna do it now. Well, because you know, we're
female trait to want to do it now that it's
all set, it done.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Really, Oh yeah, my wife does that all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I'll just get it in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
In the morning is over.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I will stay up later to clean it up because
I don't want to wake up to the mess because
that'll just piss me. Off again. I don't want to
be annoyed twice. So I just want to get it done.
Otherwise it's going to be in the back, like you
gotta do this, you gotta go clean that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I just would rather get it done.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
I gotta give Church credit because that's what that's what
she does. I mean, she does that. She knocks out.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What do you what do you do?
Speaker 8 (04:14):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I do nothing. I don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy Mother's Day. Here's a hefty here's a hefty bag.
Yeah yeah, get to work. Hey, you know, I stay
out of the way. You want to know what I do.
I'm a professional, like staying out of the way.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I hear, I hear vacuum cleaners get going and stuff
like that. I get out, I get I get away
like it's an assault rifle.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Hey look here, man, yes, get down.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Know where your exits are.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Hey man, I get out of the way. I smell fabulo,
So I go right back out the door. If I
walk in the house and I smell fabulo, so immediately
upon arrival, I turn around, I go right back out
the door. I'm gonna go get a coffee or something.
I'm check the oil, something I'm gonna do something, but
I'm getting a hell up out of the way.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So what if she what if she asks you to
help it, says hey, I'll help me, and I'll even
offer I offer it.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And I've been with her long enough where she understands
that I'm only offering as as a technicality to say
that I care enough to offer, but please do not
take me up on it. Do not take me up
on my offer. And we've been looking together long enough
(05:44):
for her to know that. So thank you, Chrich, appreciate that.
But she handles everything. She's she's cooking barbecoal right now,
like right now, she's up like making barbico right now.
It's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna be ready by noon
or one one pm. You know that was that twelve
thirteen fly out there for that bro. It is the
(06:06):
flame with the cilantro and onions, that the mix that
she puts together.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And you know, I've been eating keto. I've been on
this Keto deal and that's all meat right Well no.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
It's it's like it's like you stay away from what
like uh, starches and stuff like that, anything like super
unhealthy or whatever like I don't really know what it means,
but that's what I've been told, and I'm just following
the routine. It's been good though, I mean, my belly
has felt better. Yeah, what's going on over there?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Then?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What you got? I mean, you got all kinds of bendon.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Gave me a brownie, you got safe safe to Mally's.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
A matter a matter of sixty seconds, LaVar got a
bag full of Tamali's and a brownie.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that Keto can kiss my ass.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Well, I listen, I'm not loyal. I'm not loyal to it.
Very few things. I'm loyal to man, and I ain't
loyal to a diet. I ain't never met a diet
that I was like faithful to ever in my life.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Never. So there you go. There you have that.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Happy birthday, Drew, happy birthday, And I'm glad your daddy'd
be cleaning up after your ass.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Yeah, all right, he says grossiest by the way. He
was getting a little irritated though. You know, he was
ready to get it in and you was holding him back,
you know what I mean. Yeah, he uh, he had
a little moment there.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Huh. That was a few.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Moments, but yeah, he uh yeah, it was wild, you know,
I mean it's a four year old birthday party.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah. And how many people were there? How many how
many were in attendance for him, not for you to
parents for him.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
For him? There's probably thirty thirty kids. No that not
that many kids.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
How many kids, That's what I'm saying, not for a
count to twelve kids?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Like yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot. Was he overwhelmed?
He just wanted to play bowling the entire time. He's
just bowling the entire time, the entire time.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Now does he get the bowling like it's from you?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
He just loves playing like air hockey, uh, pop a
shot bowling like he loves likes to compete.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Are you are you trying to kind of like almost
Todd Marinovitch your son right now? Are you trying to like,
you know, it sounds like and if he turns into
a meth head that like walks around in other people's fountains,
I'm not going to be held accountable for it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's not me.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
That's middle just saying. It sounds like you're trying to
build him up right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Damn Andrew Lee damn Andrew the lap knock. Hey Lee,
how is Lee doing this morning? I mean's been solid, man.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
I haven't seen any I haven't seen any breaks or
or cracks in the armor lately. Man, he's been you know,
I don't know. Man, he's been coherent.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He's been boring.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean, is that Is that how you describe it?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, you know what's going on? You know, yeah,
because there's things I'd rather be too.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But you know, you know, do you not feel better?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No? No, I feel worse. I feel like I feel
the pains. Is it happening on the air. That's crazy,
my man?
Speaker 7 (09:47):
My man said, living straight has has made me feel worse.
They say it's supposed to make you feel better when
you make like a you know, a life switch like that.
You know, like, I don't know, it seems weird, but
hey man, you know you've looked solid to me.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He ain't came in here with the no snort, no snorts.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
No no, no lazy eye, nothing, no banged up knee,
nothing hurt hey man on the inside. Yeah, hey man,
I'm just saying get older. Good for you, Lee, Yeah,
good for you, man.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Thank Everybody's uh now, when do you plan on dipping
into those Tomali's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When's that going to happen? At the break?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I told you I'll have one or two. I don't listen.
If it's good, I have one or two. If it's
not good, I'll have a bite, take a bite of it,
you know, just saying Tomali's. Could could decide not to
agree with me, and me not agree with the tomali
And I don't want to end up on Lee's time, you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Know, washing it down with coffee though, that's it probably
gonna end up poorly.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
That's not Yeah, that's not positive. That natural diuretic. That
ain't That ain't a good thing. Definitely not well. Have
everyone happy April Fool's Day.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
It's everybody out there there you go, anybody, This is
a sports show, cheeseball cornball jokes.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Social media has made it so much worse than it
used to be used to be. You just said you
had one goofball clown friend who would make a joke.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like a terrible dad joke, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Or a terrible name joke.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Like what like Mike about that?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
And he did admit that he did not co sign
on that for digital.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
No, I did not they wanted me to collaborate on it.
I would not collaborate. I would not I'm not giving you.
I'm not giving my.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Audience to me getting Mike it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Really you think it about it because you told your
son about it on FaceTime and you're like, yeah, they
DS nuts me, and I'm like, yeah, it really is
the nuts.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
It's just very culturally different. Like y'all caught me off guard?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Was that the white guys DC It must.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Be because I've never heard of a crotch joke being
like delivered to your face. It's always nuts being delivered
to your face.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's a play on a name.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
It's a d's nuts D first name, D last name.
It's yes, it is no. Whenever you say who, you
get somebody to say who, you say.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
It's It's entirely different because it's it's it is.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I get it. It's cultural. That's it.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I just was entirely it's not cultural either, more of
a has more of a play on the actual name itself.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's I have never heard a black man.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Say Mike Crotch, like Mike Crotch, Mike rotch Seymour.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Exactly. Seymour.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Butts is a real that's a real thing, though, like
that is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Know that point.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
It's more about the name, bro, Forget about it. Forget
about it's cultural.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I think this is why you missed it in the
first place, and only open yourself up having this happen
again in the future.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
In the future, it will, it will, It's possible. It's
but I got my guard up.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Now.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
You know you won't get me with a Seymour butts
like you won't, like you will not. You will not
get me with a micro anymore, like y'all won't.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Y'all won't get me.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I told you the other one I thought about using.
I was like, yeah, I'll get thrown off the air. Yeah,
that wouldn't have been good. That's not that one would not.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Well, yeah, but they won't land with me anymore because
now I'm in on your shenanigans, like your cultural shenanigans
of how y'all want to use name?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You know, Okay, every single time we give you a
name of an article, I won't forget a question it. No,
I will not address it. I will not address it.
Every time I hear you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Say a name connected to an article I will not address.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The interesting thing is on hold on it. You said
that what we were doing was immature.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It might be even more immature now that you're not
willing to talk about anything.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We have to bring up with a name of an article.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Maybe maybe, and y'all.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
And y'all chose to do it at the perfect time,
because I know I got a tad bit emotional when
y'all were coming that, Abdul. The way that like this
article is that reason this mother lover wants to come
at Abdul.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
What's this guy's name?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Oh, Mike Rotch Okay, you punk, like, okay, come see me.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So I'm gonna call my shot here and I will
say this, as far as April Fools goes, Roberto Berto,
our former techno, will be the first one to send
over a link to the San Francisco Dude. Yeah, you
know the website with the guy sitting on the edge
of the bed with a Doberman hanging down from.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
His last Yeah, so that'll be that. Roberto will be
the first one to send that over today. Mark my words,
he's not away.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
And then he'll be like, no, just click it, just
stick it, And I'm like, no, Berta.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
We all know what this is, bro, It's just an
old joke.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Hey, I would you kick that link or what fool?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah, I'm so upset.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Did you say the headlines today? Like? What what was
the headlinst? Oh? You know what?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
You know what, I've actually got a little bit of
people have been starting April Fools early. So the Tampa
Bay Airport actually put out a tweet I think like
three days early, and it was supposed to I guess
preempt April Fools. I can go find the tweet. It
(16:04):
basically said they were shutting down the airport because so
many people were complaining all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I don't know who runs their social media account, but
they need to be fired.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
But like, that's the other thing that bothers me about
April Fools. It's not a big enough deal, or you
need to start it in March.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, Like are you don't need to start in April
at all?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like, can you just move on from it? It's not funny. Yeah,
people are gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So if you do get any sort of a link
from the SF Chronicle, just be be warned. There is
there's something on the other side that would not be
appropriate for certain people year around, just adds up. It
is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
So we are gonna have the usuals. We got another
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(16:49):
Pete Prisco is gonna stop by as well too, but
it's an early edition of Prisco an hour two. Because
Lee he's got some sort of a breakfast. Pete's got
some sort of a breakfast. He's gonna be hanging out.
Uh he eats breakfast is like hanging out.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
With like is a GMS. He's got a GM breakfast
or a coach.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah, okay whatever, So Pete's gonna yeah whatever, Pete.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
He'll talk to like two coaches because most of them
hear what he says and they'll try to avoid.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Him at this point.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 5 (17:33):
We welcome in the smooth operator himself. He is Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst.
You can get him on x at Prisco CBS. Pete,
good morning. What's the uh the Blowhard Festival look like
down there?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
You know, it's the usual, you know what the breakers
where everybody they charge thirty dollars for a drink and
everybody that isn't in the NFL. Actually, when they go
to the bathroom, money comes out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
What's money for Pete?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
What's that money falling out for Pete? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Yeah, because they got so much of it. It's all
stuffed in everywhere.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, Oh, I get it, Pete. How beautiful is
that place?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Though?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Yeah, you know it's really nice. But I mean, you know,
it's not my cup of tea. You come on, I'm not.
It's just not me, Brady.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know me better than that.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
I'm just And by the way, we used to be
able to stay here back in the day, you know,
like what happened, Well, they give you a media rate,
so you know you could turn in a decent media rate.
Now it's like, forget about it. Now you realize that
there's only six rooms per team now, so anybody they
have still over hotels for the people that you know,
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they are the lessors in the organization when they come down.
So it's it's it's stuffy. Come on, it's gotten really
as stuffy as the place is, it's even stuffier.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
That's the place where the yachts are out back and
you could just go get over your ch it's up
against the beach.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Oh no, there's a there's an ocean right there's an
ocean right there, you know, like you've got an ocean
where you're at. We got an ocean over here.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
There's two of them, you know, the far Yeah, I
know that, you know, I do realize that you're you
are in Florida, correct, you know?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, Okay, some.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Rays turn, you know, you know what I'd like to
be doing that beach, sitting on that beach.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Get yeah, I know you love that son, Pete Prisco, Uh,
what what have you Uh? What have you ascertained since
you've been there?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
What's what's been the best information that you feel like
you've gotten a hold of since being at the meetings, Pete?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
But you know what I do here, I do a
lot of draft stuff here. I kind of gather on
guys and to get information and try and figure out
who's going to take who and who what people think
about it, and and look, you know, people lie you.
We know that I've been lying to many a time
over the course of the history of coming this league.
But I'm not sure that the Browns are going to
take a quarterback at two like everybody thinks they might.
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I just don't think that's the case. And maybe I'm
misreading it, but I just don't feel that that's what
they're going to do. I do think that the Titans
are leaning into the quarterback at one. I wouldn't do that,
but I think they are leaning to take the quarterback
at one. Then you get, what are the Browns do?
I think they take your kid from ten state if
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that's the case, although the injuries are concerned, there are
some injury issues there. And then you know, then what
do you do at three and four? I mean that's
the next question. What do the Giants do? I'm not
sure they're going to take a quarterback? And then you
know what happens with the Patriots, And so I think
it's kind of what happens with is anybody going to
force the quarterback? Because I think they all feel like
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they're going to force the quarterback if they take them
there at two, three or four, I mean two or three.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Pete, don't want to ask you about the question that
I'm sure everyone is exhausted about hearing discussing talking about
and that's Aaron Rodgers, like, is anyone's talking about it?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Do they care what decision and he makes at this point?
Are they just exhausted with the entire topic.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
It feels like every single offseason for the past few years,
this has been a topic of discussion.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
And don't you think he likes it that way too?
I mean, I mean, it's unbelievable. I'm with you, Brady,
I mean every single day. And we did a hit
on him yesterday, you know, because because he threw with
DK Metcalf and now he's good. You know, is that
the Steelers all retire when maybe he'll retire or no,
is he gonna do what? Yeah, I'm with you, and yeah,
people are tired of that. They wanted them to make
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a decision. I think the Steelers want them to make
a decision. The Steelers have to do something. You know,
Tomlin came out yesterday. Yeah, we're happy, We'll play with
the Mason Rudolph. Sure you will, Okay, good luck with that.
I mean, you're not gonna play with Mason Rudolph. So
they need Rogers. Here's the I think part of the problem.
What if they signed Rogers is still only going to
be a small, you know, one or two year deal.
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If that's the case, they could still draft the quarterback.
And I think they should draft the quarterback at some point.
So I do think that that that it's tiring, and
I think he likes it that way.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio at
Prisco CBS. He's at the league's owners meetings down in Florida.
Here joining us here from the tirerack dot Com studios.
I got to ask you, what are your thoughts and
what are the thoughts on maybe people you've talked to
down there, on Jimmy Haslam basically just saying, yeah, we
kind of screwed out with the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We have big, big swing and a miss there. What's
the feedback you've gotten from people?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
You know, It's funny, how often do you hear and
somebody say an owner say that about a player still.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
On his rosters. You said that earlier.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I mean it's unbelievable. You don't ever see that. You
know what I said yesterday, I said, the guilt got him.
You know, it's like when you have some something inside
you you're holding in for years and finally you let
it out. You got I gotta get it out. I
blew it And we all know that's one thing he
didn't admit though. He didn't admit it with him. He
said it was an organizational move. No, Jimmy, it was you.
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You're the one who wanted Deshaun Watson. You're the one
who wanted to give up all those picks. You made
the move. But it's so rare to see somebody, you know,
call somebody a swing in miss when you're still on
the roster. And like I said yesterday, I said, swinging
a missus being kind. That's only one swing, It's only
one strike. This is like striking out fifty times in
a row. It's the worst trade in the history of
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the NFL. And it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Dang. I want to go back to Aaron Rodgers conversation. Pete.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
I just want your opinion on this. Do you feel
like what you just said in terms of them needing
a quarterback and Aaron Rodgers may not be certainly not
going to be the long term solution for the team.
Do you feel like he's waiting because he wants to
see if they're going to draft the quarterback and who
will that quarterback be. I mean, there's a possibility that
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you could draft a quarterback that could end up taking
his job during the course of the season, or you know,
maybe get the job right out of the gate. And
I mean, listen, I know Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers,
but I don't think that it's beyond the realm of possibility.
That's something could go wrong and that guy that you
drafted ends up playing and Aaron Rodgers loses his opportunity
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to start. Could that be playing a part and why
he's not making a decision right now?
Speaker 8 (24:14):
It could be because all you guy, it's called Kirk
Cousin's disease, That's what that is. Remember he went fine
with the Falcons and they drafted a quarterback and he
lost his job. But again, where the Steelers are picking.
I mean, if they picked let's say for example, they
picked Jackson Dart, you know, is he going to beat
out Aaron Rodgers in the first year? Probably not what
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they're doing in that scenario, I think is is, you know,
kind of fixing it for the future with a guy
that's ready to play in the now because Jackson Dart's
gonna have to adjust in the NFL game. It's totally
different than what he did at Ole Miss. So I
think that would be something that they would look at.
But in the back of Aaron Rodgers' mind, after seeing
what happened to Kirk Cousins, you might be right, LeVar,
he might be waiting to see what's happening.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Hete SR go ahead there, Jonas, Yeah, no, I did
I cut you off for it was my turn of
your return.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm whose turn is. I don't know I screwed.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Go ahead, Josh.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I was going to ask, is there is there any
sort of.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I don't know if it's heated disagreements when it comes
to the Tush push, Like how contentious has that gotten?
As far as the discussions you've heard from people enter
around the NFL.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
You know, I'm hearing a lot of people against it,
and and I think, you know, there's some growing sentiment
that it might get you know, pushed out of the league.
I mean, here's my take on I hate I hate
the play, I really do. I hate it. I despise it.
I don't think it's a football play, you know, and
so I don't like to play. But after listening to
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Sirianni at the Combine explain how they came up with
the play, how they practice the play, how they work
on the play, and how everybody else sits there and
can't stop the play, then I'm just saying, Okay, well,
maybe it's time everybody figure out a way to stop it.
Because I hate the play. It's not fun to watch.
It's ugly play. But again, they came up with it,
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they've fixed it, they work on it, they rep it.
Nobody's ever gotten hurt on that play, and so why
are you going to try and legislate it out? And
so I think it, But I do think that there's
a real strong push a lot of coaches don't like it,
a lot of people don't like it, to get it out,
and I think ultimately it might get out today.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
You know, it's funny, Pete, we were talking about those
torpedo bats that apparently have been used longer than we've
we've realized, or at least have known about, and people
have said that if they end up removing them, it's
because of like competitive imbalance, right, it'd be like too
much towards the offense. And I think if it's not
about the safety and health of players, because no one's
got injured at least thus far, the other thing would
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be like a competitive balance where the play is so successful,
almost like the pat where it became kind of like, oh, well,
we know they're gonna get it first out here, you
know what I'm saying. So maybe that's more of the
angle to it, and I think, go ahead, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
It's become so mundane that Okay, well they're going to
get the diverse out the point right, it's.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Like similar to the point I have to touchdown.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
So that's like the only angle that I could potentially
see it in that. But do you get a sense
as far as how they're gonna implement replay anything else
they're going to do in regards to the Competition Committee
and some of the initiatives they try to push around
this time of year.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Well, you know they've been discussing those eighteen games, and
you know that's coming, and that's that's the next one,
and you know, when it becomes it's not going to
be next year. I think it might be the year
after that. But when it does, it's coming, and they're
gonna have to figure out a way to play eighteen games?
Do you get two by weeks? Do you give back
something in the offseason? I mean, there's gonna be how
many preseason games is probably eighteen and two. I mean
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if they did away with the preseason, that would be
okay too, or at least you know one one preseason?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Is that because you hate working the preseason?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Pete?
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
What it's about?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
What you say, Brady, is that because you hate working
the preseason?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
I just know you know what they should do. I've
always been a big believer, and they're now more and
more teams are doing it. Go work at three days
for work. When they go work with teams, and they
do in the preseason, guys don't even play anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I agree with that, Pete. I agree pre.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Maybe one preseason game to get some guys some real contacts,
some real hitting, and then that's that's it. I mean,
I think it's too much and so cut it down.
But again, what are they going to give back? Ask
me this, and you guys both play. Do they work
out too much now? And there's that's why there's so
many soft tissue injuries. It's a year round thing, and
I mean their bodies are getting I mean there's some
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theory that that's the case.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
I don't think that they they work hard enough and
that's why they get more injuries. If you ask me,
it's gotten so soft that they don't. You don't hearten
your body for for what it is that you're going
to deal with. That would be my assessment. That's that's
how I look at it. They don't hit, They don't
do anything at all.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
No, no, no, the hitting. I get the hitting part,
but I'm with you, they don't hit at all. They should
hit more, But no, I'm talking about like guys now
are already at their facilities working out with their trainers
and they so they take like four weeks off and
they go right back into it. Then they go to
the team so soil we start working out there. Then
it's OTA's Then it's a mini camp. Then they take
the then they have the break and then they still
work out with their trainers during the break. Then they
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go back in his training camp and boom, you're right
back in the season. I don't think they let their
bodies rest anymore. Back in the day, guys would get
it done the season, go get a job on the side,
smoke ten packs of cigarettes every week. Then they up
then and then they show Then they show up and
do one mini camp, then they go home again and
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work their job, and then they come to training camp
to get in shape. And I think there were less
of those soft tissue injuries.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah, pe News Flashes twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, No one's ripping.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Darts in the sidelines like Lenn Gawson drinking a beer.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
All right.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Times have changed a little bit, and there's probably a
litany of reasons. I don't know if we're going to
solve those problems today. One team moment time about New
York Giants. What do you foresee them doing? They sign Russell?
I know you're not a fan of him. They signed Jamis.
You're probably not as much of a fan of his either.
Do you still quarterbacks and player? Are you hearing that
or is it a better chance that they stay put?
Take whoever Cleveland doesn't take at two. As far as
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the Abdul.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Carter Travis Hunter, I think they're leaning that way, Brady.
But because you know again and talking to people around
them and around the team, I get the sense that
they kept their options open by signing those two. They
don't have to force it now. And like I said
last week, I told you guys that you weren't there.
I told those guys, I said, eddyrook if they drafted
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a rookie quarterbacks, they could learn how to hold the
football from those two, that's for sure. I mean they're like,
they're like Exhibit A and Exhibit B on that football.
Come on, But I think quarterback is I think quarterback
is in play there still. But I think they've given
themselves the best option. By the way, if they are
sitting there at number three and Travis Hunter is staring
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him in the face and they don't take him, they're foolish.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Okay, So so real quick on that note, what are
you hearing in regards to Shador and Jackson darr because
those are the next tow after cam Ward. Are you
hearing there's separation there? Are they close to some like
Jackson Dart better? Because I think there's a thought that
there's a clear separation in cam Ward and everyone else.
And is this potentially from what you're hearing, there a
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draft or you could only have one quarterback, maybe go
in the first round.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
I think you'll sit. No, I don't think you'll see
one go because you know how guys get desperate, Brady.
But the reality is one probably should go in the
first round. But I think the other guys will go
in the first round too. But there's not that much
separation between Sanders and Dart. But I'll give you a name,
and it's the guy I mentioned on the show last week,
and a guy I really like who's hot and he's
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moved up from what I hear. A lot of guys
like him, and he might go in the second round.
Kyle McCord from Syracuse is a hot name right now.
If you're looking for a quarterback of a guy who
might go higher than people are expecting him to go,
Kyle McCord is that guy. He's a guy that can
stand in the pocket, he can make the throws, he's
got a good arm, he's tough, not a great athlete,
but he can move a little bit. And he's a
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name I keep mentioned in it. And by the way,
if the Browns didn't take a quarterback at two, you
know where Kyle McCord went to high school. He went
to the same high school as Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
What about Milrow anything.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
On him project? You know, somebody's going to take a
shot on Mill Road in the second round. I think
the big you know, athletic can throw it. You know,
he's inaccurate, but he can. He's got tools, and somebody's
going to be enamored with that and take him in
the second round. Brady, I talked about this last year
last week when you were there.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I know. Wait, I was at a charity event.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Dude, I mean.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
A lot of I know, but I can still say
you aren't there, can't. I mean, whether you're on the beach,
you're playing golf, or a charity event, I can still.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Say you were, buddy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
No one sees the beach as much as you that's
on the golf course are.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
But but I mean, next year's quarterback class could be
really good, and so sometimes you might wait. You know,
but that's the problem. A lot of these guys don't
have to pay. Wait. You can wait next next year
and you get yourself a good quarterback there he is.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Pete, Can I ask you one more question? I gotta
I gotta ask and where you're talking about the tush push,
And I'm just curious is there any extra conversation connected
to the tush push, because I am of the thought
process that the pushing and pulling is totally out of control,
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Like is it just concentrated on the one play or
are they taking a good, long, hard look at the
fact that the players are being pulled, they're being pushed,
they're being hit from behind to move them forward.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Somebody made the point. I thought it was an interesting point.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
It's like, once the forward progress is stopped and it's
impeded to the point of where you you can clearly
see that the runner is not going to go forward anymore,
the place should be over, but it's not over, so
you let it continue to go on. But if you
drive that man forward, he gets his yards. If you
drive him backwards, they get forward progress. It doesn't make sense.
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So to me, are they having any added conversation to
the touch push in terms of pushing players. Has that
even come up in terms of connection with the touch push,
because it's.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, absolutely no, but.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
There is some there is some talk of tweaking the language,
and the touch push is saying pushing immediately the way
it's written out to pushing immediately after the snap, and
so how do you you know, what do you how
do you use immediately? So they might they might find
a way to get it out by changing the language
on it. Here's the other thing. When are the defenders
going to start pushing back? And you know what I mean,
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you can do it the other way too, and nobody
ever does it.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
But just I said, if you push them back, you
they still get their yards, they get their forward progress.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Each other start laughing, each other, start diving at legs,
and you know the whole deal. And you know what
happens underneath the podcast. Come on, you can start. If
they really start getting nasty with it, it could be
a nasty, ugly play. It's a gross play to watch
period as far as football, just like a kickoff or
extra point. They're boring plays. But until they're not going
to get rid of it now. I mean they're going
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to try and get rid of it now. And I
think there's some sentiment around the league today that it goes, uh.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Pete, we know you got to run enjoy it, trying
to have a couple of cocktails and keep us posted
if any reporters try and get in a fight anywhere nearby, like,
excuse me, I'm.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Going to walk. I'm going to walk into the breakers
right now.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Be careful with all that money falling out on the
bathroom floors.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
If they want to craft some of that money in
my direction, I'll be more than willing to clean it
up and take it great.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Pete Prisco here with us on Fox Sports Radio live
from the owners meetings there in Florida. He is senior
NFL columnist, CBS Sports HQ analyst. You can get him
on x at Prisco CBS.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
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Speaker 5 (36:17):
All right, so, some conflicting reports Natoates the Alabama head coach.
There was some stuff out there that maybe he was
interested in the Maryland job, and then there's some stuff
that has come out that said that he's not. I
don't know what to believe because it is April fools Day,
so who the hell knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But what we do know is.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
That there's that discussion, and then there's the discussion of
Frank Reich, who has decided on a one year, one
and done opportunity. He is going to coach again. This
time it's going to be at Stanford. Obviously, Andrew luck
Is there is there gm there with the Stanford football program.
He brings back his former coach. So Frank Ryan must
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really like coaching after going through what happened in Indianapolis.
And then David Tepper deciding I want to take another
try at this, and so he's going to help out
the Stanford football program for at least this upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
So yeah, I mean two completely different stories. But the
first with.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Dato Oats, I mean a lot of times when it're opening,
like a blue blood program like Maryland comes open, a
guy's gonna use this leverage.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I really didn't know if there.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Was credibility to it though, because if you look like
Kevin Willard left it was frustrations probably with their nil
at Maryland. And now you're hearing that Natotes is frustrated
with the distribution of nil at Alabama. Well, first off,
join the club for basketball coaches that are frustrated with
the distribution of money coming in for nil between football
and basketball. I'm sure there's a lot of men's basketball coaches,
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women's basketball coaches that feel that way. Although this is
what the numbers say. So you can try to debate this,
you can stay your claim whatever you want. The ball
generates way more revenue, way more profitability to athletic departments.
So that's the money maker. That's what always really should
get a lot of the funding if they want to
keep these athletic departments running. So to think that, then
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Nato it's at Alabama is frustrated with whatever he's getting,
which you know, again we talked about this yesterday, Jonas,
you want to hear. These basketball rosters now in the
NCAA are comprised of at least the competitive ones, the
ones playing in the final four, somewhere between the bulk
of three to five million dollars be a little bit
higher than that, but that's essentially what the roster costs.
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And we compared it to football, where Ohio States was
twenty million or over twenty million Michigan the year before.
They paid all the guys to stay and to come back,
and many other guys as well, who are transfers. You
came in, they plugged in. We've talked about all that.
What's interesting though, is that he would use this as
leverage if it is with Alabama saying hey, we need
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you guys to pony up more. I mean, if your
recall didn't Nick Saban back when he was coaching make
a flee out to his boosters too about getting more
actively involved in NL And we've seen a number of
coaches do this. And the unfortunate reality is the fact
that it's just not sustainable when you keep having to
come back time and time and time again to your
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alumni base and your donor base to keep funding your
rosters every single year. And so the House NCA settlement
can't come soon enough. Because that's a sustainable model. That's
one where you get all these universities that are part
of these conferences that have given out their their TV
rights and the TV money that comes in, they can
then reallocate a portion of that to really their their employees,
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their players, the guys who are on the field making
the money right or helping them make the money.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So that's that's really titles.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
How does that plan the title nine?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Well, that's the thing is there's not clarity as of
right now, how the House NCA settlement and Title nine
are going to coexist in that world?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
And there's two thoughts. There's equal opportunity and there's equal payment.
So you know, if you're looking at, hey, if you've
got the same amount of female student athletes who are
being paid from that House NCAA settlement with that rev
share as men. There's some that believe philosophically that would
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satisfy Title nine. There's others that believe that they should
be paid the same allotment of funds. And that's where
there's a fork in the road because if you again,
if you look at that model, and if we're just
we're talking facts here, Okay, you guys can dissect whatever
you want, but again, football, men's basketball, pretty much nothing
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else for men's sports and most schools is what generates income. Okay,
for women's sports, maybe maybe women's basketball. Maybe that's it.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Can I ask you this what I guess The question
I would ask is as far as because they're gonna
find the money, like you said, from the TV contracts,
when those TV contracts are done with the conferences, are
there specifics to why they're or where the money is
is like where the advertising dollars are going and different
(41:22):
things like that. I mean, it would come across to
me that if the if you're saying, okay, we're doing
a deal with the Big ten, the Big Ten is across.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Fox, who's we like Fox? Say Fox Sports? Right?
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Within that language, how much of that language includes other
sports outside of football and men's basketball. Is it all
encompassing or is it specific to advertising during the NCAA
football season, advertising during NCAA basketball tournament, you know, something
(41:58):
like that.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
So sim we put at Fox for example, is going
to to bid on the Big ten media rights, right,
and then you're gonna have CBS and NBC come in,
They're gonna sublet some of those rights out. It's then
incumbent on the networks to go to the advertisers and say, hey,
this is the live programming that we have, especially in sports,
(42:21):
and this is where we feel like you should place
your ads. So it's really more incumbent on the network
to find that the advertising revenue, and it's not really
you know that the conference doesn't have as much to
say in that regard, right, because that's how the TV
networks are going to make back the money that they're
giving to the conference in exchange for the rights to
air their live product.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
The reason why I ask is because if we're moving
into a place potentially where the players are going to
be compensated by TV money, then you would have to
assume if if the bulk of your advertising through you
selling during the college football season, how can you justify
(43:05):
title nine?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
How can you do it?
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Like?
Speaker 7 (43:09):
You can't say it has to be fairly and equally
distributed if those proceeds are being pushed out based off
of the performance of where the ad dollars are going,
I would assume right like if you're not doing if
you're because advertisers do they do flights, they don't. It's
(43:29):
not like, oh, you gotta go an entire year. If
you do X here, then you have to do X there.
They're not going to be like, yeah, we're going to
put all our ad dollars during basketball season or during
off season, like during the summer, you know months of
the year. It's it's going to be football season where
all the AD dollars go. So how do you differentiate
(43:52):
where this money is supposed to go? If you're trying
to indeed do an equal and fair split of the
proceeds that are come into the university.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, and I think that
burden is more on the universities that are bound by
Title nine than is the TV networks. And again the
advertising agencies that are a part of it. Now, those
advertising agencies, can you know, push, for example, to show
more advertisements at least in college sports, maybe back when
Kaitlin Clark or Angel Reese was at LSU, you know,
(44:23):
whoever you want to kind of talk about those athletes.
I mean, by and large, if you're looking at how
the advertisement structure works, I mean, the advertisers are just
looking at a certain demographic of people and they're looking
for a number.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
So you know, obviously college football rates really well. The
NFL rates really well, But if you're talking about college sports,
college football is next up. Really it's second to the
NFL as far as ratings go. So if that's the case,
they're talking advertisers because they're getting X amount of viewers
for these games and that's where they're placing their ads.
(44:58):
But some of it's cyclical, right, Like you saw an
election year last year, a lot of it's gonna be
politically driven, and there's times when, depending on how things
work out, there might be some makeups where you might
have some makeup ads in the back end of something
that didn't happen in the time frame you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You know, there's events, there's.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Like March Madness where CBS, you know, TNT True all
that stuff. They're selling those spots knowing they're going to
get X amount of viewers or hoping they're going to
get X amount of viewers, you know, for each one
of those games. Sometimes if there's poor viewership, you might
make it up. You might run some additional ads at
another sport at a later time to get you to
that number of people that you're looking at reaching. I
(45:37):
mean that ultimately in that I'm trying to make this
simple the simplest way is what you're looking for. You know,
advertisers are working with brands to be able to reach
their consumers in a certain demographic. You know, TV networks
are saying, we know if you watch this movie, we
know if you watch this show, we know if you're
watching these games, this is the demographic that is consuming
(45:58):
your products probably to or this is the demographic you're
trying to reach that you haven't so far, so we
will help you get there by the different array of
sports that we have. You know, you used the example
of Fox. They have NFL, they have college football, They
obviously have some MLS coverage, UFL coverage this time of
the year, Major League Baseball, and it goes on right.
They're into soccer, you know, men's college basketball, women's college basketball.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
There's a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
So there's different ways in which they can kind of
reach those demographics based on Fox Sports's portfolio of sports
that are live sport is sporting events that they have.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Let me ask you this because you were careful in
how you presented the facts when it came to who
draws revenue at schools and college et cetera, et cetera,
at universities when it comes to athletics. Is there still
pushback from people that think anything outside of football and
men's football and men's basketball. Is there still pushback that
(46:55):
there's anything else that draws even a fraction of what
they do.
Speaker 6 (46:59):
I don't know it's not pushback, but I think there's
a thought and there's.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Some people who believe that men and women.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Should be presented an equal opportunity and they view that
opportunity as if there's a twenty million dollar perse, it
should be divided up equally amongst the men and women's
student athletes at different institutions.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
There's there's people who believe that.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
There's others who believe that it should be more proportional
based on, you know, what revenues generated from those sports.
And there's some that believe that, hey, you know that
if you want to go on the far end of
the spectrum, there's some that it should be you know,
ninety percent of football, the other ten percent, you know,
five and five to men's women's basketball, and then the
rest can figure it out on their own and if
they want to be a club sport or if you know,
(47:43):
alumni and donors want to them support those programs through
whether it's a collective or donations to the university, that's
how those sports should exist. So there's there's a lot
of different thought on this. Again, there's a reason why
the House in NCA settlement's talked about forever and yet
we still don't have a clear defined language on how
Title I will play a factor, what role collectives will play,
(48:05):
and trying to bring it all under hopefully one piece
of federal legislation, because otherwise you're gonna have different states,
and that's already happening. Now change their nil laws to
allow them to exist in a manner that gives them
an advantage compared to everyone else.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
I just wonder, does this make every other sport, Does
this make all sports club sports at the college level.
I'm just curious because and I wonder how it will
be received if, if at any point Title nine is
not a part of it, if the idea of the
funding going more specific to one, one place, one sport,
(48:44):
because again, if you don't have the funding to be
able to put it into the scholarships or the facilities
or the uniforms, and you know, et cetera, et cetera,
you know you're going to have to do away with
the sports that you have.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know you're going to have to cut them down.
Speaker 7 (49:01):
And that's always been an age old debate too, like
how much is enough? You know, It's like for a
long time, we didn't put any money into our hockey,
our hockey program. Now Pagola has been putting money in
our hockey program and shots out to our hockey programs
made it to us first frozen four. I just you know,
I just wonder how will that be received, will how
(49:24):
will the university handle that? I mean, I feel like
this sends a lot of shock waves, the ripple effect
of it not being a equally distributed situation. I mean,
it opens up potentially like a tremendously large conversation that
could go really really bad.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
It could go badly, like super bad.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
So the interesting thing that's becoming more the norm, and
what a lot of these institutions are starting to do,
is you're going to see players sign contracts and in
that contract.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
They'll be buyouts.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
So in a lot of professional sports there looked as
his transfer fees. So let's say, for example, a player
wants to go from you know, Alabama to Auburn, right,
they would have to Auburn would have to pay that
transfer fee in order to get the rights to that
player under that contract. So all those things are starting
to enter into the conversation. And what's fascinating about it
(50:24):
is without a collective bargain agreement or any sort of
overarching union that would be able to make sure this
is standardized, you're going to truly see free markets. Whereas
the most coveted guy whoever that is. Arch Manning could
probably name his price. You know, there might be a
year and a time in a university and a donor
who between the collective and the university would pay him,
(50:44):
maybe more than he would make in the first year
as a rookie being the number one overall pick. Now,
that could be completely false, but there's also a world
where that might exist if you find the right timing.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I mean, John.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
Ruiz one of the biggest boosters for the University of Myami.
He has been bashful at all about you know, paying
for male and female you know, student athletes, right like
the Cavender twins for example.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Who both have played basketball there.
Speaker 6 (51:09):
They have huge social media followings, They've got a slew
of different you know, advertisements and brands they're working with.
And you know, I'm sure they're making based on some
of the footage we've seen from Carson Beck and his
car is getting stolen and then where they still live.
I'm not sure that was Beck's house or theirs or whoever.
But nonetheless, they're making a ton of money off this,
and there's there's a booster who will be out there
(51:29):
to write that check just to say, hey, I'm the
guy who got this guy here, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what's kind of fascinating to me. But there's
definitely three specific things. I mean, you touched on, you know,
what happens with Title nine and how it's impacted by
the House in SA settlement. You know, who ends up
helping to protect the student athletes and set this up
in regards to a collective Bardain agreement or some union
(51:51):
at some point. And then lastly, like what role to
collectives play? Do they still exist? Do universities absorb them?
Is it like an arm of the university? And who
ends up regulating or governing that? Like, those are the
biggest questions right now that we still just don't know.
And even after the House NCAA settlements finalized, there's probably
gonna be lawsuits that are going to challenge whatever that
(52:12):
settlement is.
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Absolutely there will there will be one. Yeah, and I
think the I think the collectives will continue to be
the arm that that distributes the way that it is,
but it certainly will be probably governed more closely by
the university because it's going to be legal, They're going
to be able to bring.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
It in house.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
The one well, if it's brought in house and it's
really just me the universities. But the one thing that
they've talked about doing to create more transparency, which I
think everyone would like, is a clearinghouse where you have
the transparency to say, if a kid and his representation
is asking for two, three, four, five million, whatever it is,
you don't know what's true and what's not because there's
(52:52):
zero transparency now. So right now, you've got different websites,
whether it's twenty four seven sports on three dot com,
you know, pick your.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Pick, whoever you want.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
They will taut and they'll throw out numbers, all right,
And the only transparency you really have is what's called
called a Form nine ninety. So if you go and
look up the Form nine to ninety filings for every
nonprofit collective, you can actually see how much they've raised
and you can actually see how much has gone out,
so you get an idea of it. There's no specifics
to it, but it sheds a light on it. So
(53:22):
it's one of the reasons why when we talked about
a high state yesterday, they've got two collectives. With the
eighteen seventy Society, which is a for profit and then
the Foundation, which is a nonprofit. If you look at
the nine ninety for the foundation for those Buckeyes fans,
they haven't raised as much. The bulk share of that
twenty million roster, or however much it is, is coming
from the eighteen seventy society, because that's the one that
(53:44):
you can't see. But you have to assume if everyone's
getting paid what they're saying they're getting paid, it couldn't
come from the nonprofit side, because we know what.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
They're bringing in.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
I think it was like three million or something last year,
whatever it was, So you have to understand the lion's
share is probably coming from that for profit entity.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Good luck with that. Everybody
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