April 22, 2025 • 47 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Nico Harrison digs himself deeper by admitting he didn’t know how beloved Luka was in Dallas. Tennessee brings in Joey Aguilar from UCLA, virtually creating a quarterback swap, but compensation is still messy. Plus, NFL Insider Pete Prisco previews the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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We're gonna be taking you all the way up until
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have got all sorts of NBA playoff reaction. We got
the NFL Draft inching closer. Pete Prisco's gonna stop by
for red ass Tuesdays with Pete. It's gonna be a
fun ride here for the next three hours. Kawhi Leonard's back.
Dison up the Denver Nuggets last night, even in that
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series at one, How the hell we feel in area?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah they did. Yeah, that's Clippers man. They're not out
of it yet. No, No, they're not. They're don't write
them off now.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I don't got them getting out of the first round.
But they made it a game last night, so for them,
and they did it in Denver, So in Denver, Yeah,
stole one, stole.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
One in the Male High for them. Go for them.
They needed it, they have a chance, they needed it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, now we've got we'll get
to see the Lakers coming up later and you know,
I feel like we're in full swing. So we're gonna
get NBA playoff games every single night for the next
two months basically. So, uh, that was it was a
fun one. The Pistons beat the Knicks last night. Uh,
Cad Cunningham's a stud and Detroit even zat series. So
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they'll send that back to Detroit. And by the way,
Detroit has been one of the more entertaining teams to
watch all year long because you just never know when
there's going to be a stuff. They're similar to Houston,
so that should get a little bit spicy there between
those two teams. Also, so fun stuff last night. And
then you know the gift that keeps on giving. Nico Harrison,
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the GM of the Dallas Mavericks, the guy who authored
up one of the more puzzling trades in the history
of the sport.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
He spoke yesterday and he talked with the media about his.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Decision to trade Luca, and he went on to reveal
that he was not aware of the impact that might
have on the fan base there in Dallas, and was
asked a very pointed question in the middle of the conversation.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I did know that Luca was important to the to
the fan base, I didn't quite know it to what level.
But really the way we looked at it is, you know,
if you're putting on the if you're putting a team
on the floor, that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis and Lively.
We've so that's a championship caliber team, and we would
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have been winning at a high level and that would
acquieted some of the outrage. Uh And so unfortunately we
weren't able to do that. So it just continued to,
you know, go.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
On and on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Why shouldn't you be fired?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
One?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I think I've done a really good job here and
I don't think I can be judged by the injuries
this year. You have to judge from totality from beginning
to end, and so I think I have a really
good working relationship with Patrick, I think you had in Rick.
The leadership that we have is really elite. And you'll
see next year when our team comes back, we're going
to be competing for a championship.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So there's there's Nico Harrison straight up why shouldn't you
be Why should you be fired?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
By the way, that's that's how you.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Know that the decision was not a great one to
trade Luca when one of the questions is so, why
shouldn't you be fired? Like like not like, hey, so
what do you think of the job you've done here? No,
like you tell us why you shouldn't be clipped after
this year? So he's having to wear it right now?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Can I pose this question? Though? Yeah, why can't we
just wait and see how this works out?
Speaker 7 (04:10):
I mean, this is a team that went to the
conference finals and the NBA Finals and another season and
wasn't the play in this year. It's like we just like,
wait to see how this plays out instead of just
immediately saying this guy stinks, we need to fire him.
Terrible decisions, Like okay, hold on for a second. Can
we see how he builds the roster. They've been a
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good basketball team since he took over and they've been competitive.
Granted with Luca, can we see what things look like
without them next season? Like, what's what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's fair because the injuries are not his fault, like
Anthony Davis going down as early as he did. Now
you could say, well, he's had injury history. But all right,
I mean, listen, there were there were conditioning concerns about
Luca Kyrie's injury. That's just that's terrible luck. And it
seemed like everything fell apart after that.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I do think.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Though, that if you take over that job, your goal
is to how do we build around Luca? Like that
should be point one goal number one, and instead it
was he's gone.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
But that's your opinion. You might look at it and say,
that's not the guy we want to build around. We'd
rather get someone like Ad to pair with Kyrie, to
pair with Claye Thompson to you know, how this is
the construct of what we feel like we need to win.
I mean, the opening game loss to the Timberwolves, what
was the thing they needed the most? Probably a true center. Yeah,
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I mean that was at least the recap of the game.
How a lot of people looked at it like, oh,
it would have been nice if the Lakers had a
true center, it's not there for them anymore. I'm just
saying we tend to make these hot takes in a vacuum.
It just we have no patience for waiting to see
how this is going to play out.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's not like I mean, if that Lakers don't.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Make it out of the series, are people gonna be
frustrated with Luca? Are they to be flush frustrated with Lebron?
How do you look at the Lakers in that instance.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, they're going to judge Lebron more than they're going
to judge Luca. But I'll say to answer your question, no,
people don't want to wait to see because we live
in the now generation and.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's very very instant people. Did you like that?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
They just people want what they want now. It's very instant,
instant gratification, instant results, instant everything. And if it's not
what you want then because the way today's you know,
generations are being classically conditioned. It's I need a solution
and I want results and I want it now. And
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that's you know, I think that that's what a lot
of these gms, it's a lot of what these owners
are facing. It's a lot of what these players are facing,
and we're seeing it play out in different ways. We're
seeing it play out from the general manager's perspective, We're
seeing it play out from the contract negotiations perspective for
the players, the agents, and the organizations. Hell, we're seeing
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it with retirements of jerseys. So it's just a very instant,
instant time frame, instant time period we're in right now
and just looking at what took place with Dallas, whether
they were going to build around Luca or not. You know,
Anthony Davis definitely could be considered to be comparable in
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terms of an exchange in a trade. It was a
mega trade, one of the biggest trades ever. Question Marks
surrounded both players in some categories. But to say you
didn't realize what the value of Luca was to the
fan base, I would say that that might have been
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the most poorly played part of it. To think that
you would get rid of one of the youngest, brightest
stars and out of your organization and think that there
wouldn't be any type of backlash or repercussions connected to
just moving him, I think that's that's a horrible underestimation.
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Of the value of what type of player Luka Doncic is.
So I think that was to me. Outside of that,
I didn't have anything. I didn't have any problems with
what Nico's you know what his response was, that's starting
five that he named. That is an elite starting five.
That is a championship caliber starting five. And he has
done a great job. But at the end of the day,
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just because you've done a great job, if you make
a decision and that decision doesn't yield you that instant,
that instant bang, that boom impact effect, then people are
going to have things to say because we're now in
a day and age where people are very comfortable passing
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judgments on what people's jobs are and how they do them.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There's just gotta be more to that story with him
and Luca and what do you think it is.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You're trying to dig in deep here.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They went, you know, on the surface, basically almost fat
shamed the guy after he left his conditioning his cardio
all that it must have been so bad.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So you're saying it's because he was white, is what
you want to say? A white guy for bringing a
black athlete rights.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, can we run down can you say what
you mean? Can we can we use that as the
headline please? Because you want to talk about views that'll
move it. They had an issue with the match color.
This is the NBA after all, tang. I just there's
got to be more to what has been reported that
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as well. You know, defense wins championships.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, but you know, like Luca, you know, is.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
One of the better young talents we've seen in the
league in the last X amount of years.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Like, that's a guy that you would, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Assuming, want to partner with moving forward. Like that's the
guy you try and keep and build around, ad defensive
pieces around him, trying to and there was no perspective.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
They brought him to the Lakers, and now he's the
instant face of the Lakers team that has the face
arguably of the NBA on their team.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
How does that work? So to your point, you're you're right.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I mean, he's got so much cashay, he's got so
much potential, he's got so much star power that he
is now deemed the face of this LA Lakers team.
Why would you give that away? We're not saying that
about Anthony Davis going to Dallas? Are we are we saying,
Anthony Davis is the face of the Dallas Maverick that's
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Jack's town.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Anyways, If he is the face, does the unibrow? I
mean is that? How does that hit you? Guys? I'm
just saying, does he still have that thing?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm still ever going to get rid of it? I
think it is there. I think it has to be there.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
That is the face like V and you just kind
of know, like it's not V for Vendetta, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, I mean, that's great. Is there is there?
Is there anything?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
I feel like that's next to like a booger in
someone's nose that you're like, you want to tell them
but you can't. The unibrow is the next thing that
you're going, Man, I can't stop looking at it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Or what a gap in your front teeth? That's the one. Yeah,
But there's like a lot of people that that have that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Like we just watched the New Captain America movie with
Anthony Mackie.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
He has a gap. Yeah, he has a gap, but
you can't you don't really notice it, So I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What about what about an eyebeard? You ever seen the
people that have those? They got the hair that's underneath
the eye, like he grows up on the on the cheekbone.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, that's a real thing. Iebeards. What are you talking about?
You never seen anybody beard?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, well it's like it it's facial hair in sort
of the beard region, but it grows so high man
type stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, like underneath the uh the eye onore. Have you
seen what he's talking about?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I actually have to say I have, I have. Would
you describe you know who gets it? And it's not
so much the eye, but it comes up from the face.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is is it Edelman?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, Julian Edelman does.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he's got He's got like that type of facial
hair configuration.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Is that just a beard that just grows like all.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
The way up to your face, like like literally your
entire face.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I feel like it's a pretty easy get you know,
you just.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Just get rid of it like that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
All I know is is at the end of the
day that you and a brow has not done anything
to keep him healthy the year than what he has
been that would have.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Been outside of outside of any I.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Think it does. I think it's like his kryptonite. I
think if he were to do something with that Univerrow,
he would stop getting these injuries. No, seriously, I would say, yeah,
you're right at this point, wouldn't you, But wouldn't you
wouldn't you say if if the injury concerns weren't associated
(13:28):
with Anthony Davis, you can't have a problem with this
trade boring any injury concerns about Anthony Davis, you can't
have a problem with this track.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, I think they could have gotten more that Like
Mark Cuban, one of his initial thoughts was, you know,
I thought we could have gotten more, Like there was
like either another first I forget the exact.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Details, but you do know Anthony Davis, A healthy Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Might be the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean that's the problem to be It's a
big if.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I well, that makes the point, right if he's healthy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
So I just feel like with artificial intelligence, sweats going out,
like they'll figure it out at some point, like at
the end of eighties.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Career and be a save him plug him up. I
don't know. I don't know bout that I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I mean, artificial artificial intelligence, just plug him in, like
go sit in a chair, plug up, you know. I mean,
that's what all these red light treatments and lasers.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And all this stuff kind of is anyway, right, that's
a good point. You said red light district Did I
say red light treatments? Treatments? Sorry? Yeah, red light red
light treatment or red light districts have played apartment. Sure
why they have their own treatments, don't they? I mean
Bobby Orchids would say they do.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That is a you know, it is a good point.
Elon Musk with all the advancements they've made AI wise,
Like can he find like a charging station that some
of these players.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Can just just do go sit on the sideline? They
got docking stations right there onto that line.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey, will this get me through eighty two? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Like some uh neo type stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah,
the matrix I'm with you stick it right in the
back of his head.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I do appreciate that we opened the site when Jonas
wanted to fire Nico Harrison, and I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Know, head's already. I don't want anybody that I will
never listen as somebody who has been fired. It sucks.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I never call for anybody's job. It just feels like
we're getting to ever No, I never never, ever, ever.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
What's the worst part about being fired? Mmm, well, it
depends on how it's done. Have you ever been fired? Yeah,
you have been fired. Yeah, you get cut, cut as fire. Yeah.
How do make you feel? I'm trying to think the
first time it happened, about to say it feels different sometimes, Like,
well I was.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I was more caught off guard by it because of
the timing of everything, and honestly had a good preseason
so I was like, oh okay, and I knew I
was going to sign like almost immediately, so it didn't
bother me quite as much.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
In the year eight.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
That's what bothered me the most because on the way
in when I talked to the Dolphins in training camp,
I had a chance to go up and go to
training camp with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I had worked out.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
With them, and we were talking with them, and I'm
like in the player's lounge of the Dolphins, and it
was a whole fiasco.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like my agent was flying.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
At the time, so there's no like he was on
like a long flight cross country, so there's no way
I could call him and talk to him. The Dolphins
were trying to sign me and I'm trying to figure
out like do I want to do this or do
I want to wait and try to go up to
New England, which at that point in time, I was like,
it's not It wasn't even about if I was going
to make like the New England roster or not. In
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my mind, I was like, I wanted to be around Tom.
I wanted to be like in a training camp with him.
I wanted to be around Bill Belichick. And that was
when they saw Ryan Mallet, so there's a chance of
like depending on how many they were going to keep.
And I knew the system, so all those things were
lining up to like this that would have made way
more sense. And at the time I just got married,
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my in laws lived up there, so it kind of
made sense for our family too, at least for my
wife and I. And it ended up working out where
I was. I was living in South Florida, so I
was like, all right, I'll just kind of stay here
and do this. And I knew Joe Joe Filman as
the coach, but the general manager at the time, you know,
kind of ballatantly lied about just what the situation was
(17:36):
and even the opportunity, which you know, he was goin I.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Think a kind of a one and done GM, which
was fine.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
But when he did it, I was just like, it
was more of like I literally kind of scolded him.
I was like, dude, just be a man. I'm like,
we knew. We had a conversation on the way going in,
and I said, and this was not what you presented
it to be, and so I said, I kind of
just said to him, I was like, other players just
want the truth, man, I was like, that's all this about.
I was like, don't sugarcoat, don't try to hide it,
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don't do things for your un selfish needs. I was like,
just presented them what the actual truth is. I was like,
and they'll be able to handle that. And then he
didn't know how to handle that, like someone actually saying
that to him, and he looked like a little bit
like petrified.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
So was what it was?
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Upset helped him? No, No, they were. They were all
fired after that year, So I don't think he helped anyone.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, it's always discrontal when when it's not, you know,
that's that's the goat for everybody.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Which now, now here's what I'll say to the point,
what Jodah's made about Nico. What you realize are oftentimes
people who are in those general manager positions or even
a leadership position, they're out of touch with the rest
of us, Like they're not capable of being social or
having like sympathy, empathy, having that eq to be able
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to relate to people. So in this instance, yeah, it's awful.
Then Niko was like, yeah, I was unaware of how
much you know? Well, dude, what how how could you
be unaware of that? At what point were you unaware
of the fact that Luke is one of the best
players in the NBA. He's obviously an international player, which
even comes with more fan fare and just kind of
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people think it is cool. It's not just like a normal,
you know, United States white guy. He's an international white guy.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
He's exotic, first off, doing that, like that's.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Not a real thing. Okay, it is a real thing.
It's like Vadi Devoc everyone's dude, he's so cool. He
smokes cigarettes like over there, right on the corner. But
the truth is, sometimes you get those leaders in those
positions that do not know how to relate to the
fan base. They don't understand how it's going to be
received or even with players like you know, in this case,
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Michael Finley taking his beer, like, how's how's that going
to be taken by by Luca?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
In that instance, he must have had real Boozehound. If
that supporo was the one that was then, by the way.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Can't speaking of the real boost Lee, How would you
feel if someone, if let's say, if Scott Shapiro try
to come by and take what you're beer?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
How would you feel that take my beer? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Like, way after celebrating like a great year or like
a big time event that we pulled off. How would
you to take by your take your beer from you?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'd offer Scott my beer. That's fine, you think you
could do this, You can have my beer.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
It's be he's not drinking your beer and take it
away from you, saying you can't celebrate with the beer.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, he's insinuating that you're not responsible enough for yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So let me be responsible for you. Hmmm. I trust Scott.
I'll take Scott's advice.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
See what the reason why Lee would allow that to
happen is because I would is because he would have
a flask in his pond.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'll be so taken back. I'd be so taken back.
If somebody walked up to me manager boss CEO, I
don't give a damn. I'd be taking back, like what
are you doing? Why are you touching my beer?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Luca must have a liver like a corpse for them
for them to walk up and take his beer out
of his handle. Hey, I don't know. It might not
even be that bad of a deal with the camera.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
It might have just been it might have just been image,
Like Michael Finley was aware that the cameras were rolling
and he just didn't Maybe that's not the image that
he wanted portrayed for for Luca.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Pore champagne on each other in baseball and every other
sport if they if they win a division, if they
do this, he's holding one.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I don't feel like it was maliciously done. I don't
feel like it was done in an intervention type of manner.
I just think Michael Finley was on some like big
brother type stuff, like you know, like you're talking, the
cameras are rolling, like let me get that beer off
of you, like I want to make or I'm protecting you,
protect your image. Whether that's the truth or not, I
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don't think. I mean, we'll know if Michael Finley ever
comes out and says it or Luca says something about it.
But I think the reality there is is that I
would be bothered no matter what his intentions were, Like,
what are you coming into my personal space for taking
away the beverage that I chose to have at this
moment in time?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The game is over?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
If the game was pregame, I get it, Like, what
are you doing, dude, Like give me that beer?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like you can't be drinking a beer before the game.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I get that the game is over, player, Like, why
are you taking a beer out of my hand? You
don't step your ass away from me, a grown ass man.
But anyways, that's how I would feel about it. Back
to Lee, Hey buddy, you just take my beer.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
That's that's what I was just gonna say, Scot Oh,
hey buddy, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Buddy, Aleikadleika daunt Is that fairly after?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Could you imagine if Leeka, who like like was a
former NBA player and he's doing his job, I believe
imagine that Lee.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Was exotic and not just from California, Like if he
was from somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
People be like, oh my gosh, you see the way
he tresses. Isn't that talmy bahama doesn't make it different.
That's this way about him, just so carefree and from where?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, what was your your dominant background in your uh
spit in a tube and send it off test you did?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh? It was me. It was Irish and British. Okay,
I thought it was Dutch, but nope, No, Dutch, Irish
and British. Huh yep. Interesting, Well that explains a lot.
Track O'Leary four liquor store came out as a white
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piece of paper ready to drink. It was a damn
piece of paper that tracks. Not even Ireland was ready
for Lee G and T Please, I'm sorry, t Hey
(24:12):
you breath you breathe it all over me. I wish
you guys would have been there. I couldn't. I could
not contain myself. I was drooling. I couldn't. I was
almost sobbing, laughing so hard.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He's got his he's got his arms crossed because we're
so cramped up in the four seater in the back
of the plane.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
He's got his arms crossed. He like opens up.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
One eye to her as she removes her COVID mask
to tell him to get offer her this moment's eighty
five and no chance in Algie's still alive after that
plane and Lee Lee just looks at her and then
with his one eye open, looks back over to me
and just smiles. It.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Heybody, unbelievable. Whatever that lady, That lady for sure is
daddy oh goddy. In fact, she vanished not a shot
(25:20):
now cas are taking it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Right after the fight, She's like, I've seen enoughing take me, Jesus,
take me away, Jesus.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That is rusty ass man was just breathing all over me.
I don't want to live anymore. And we smelled so
bad after we got off that plane.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Ten hours, ten hours of mini bottles and yingling oh
no on the flight back.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oly God.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
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Speaker 3 (26:05):
All Right, does everybody have the script? Did everybody get that?
I need more context?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Who am I in this? Hold on? Hold on? What
second pause? Who am I in this? Am I?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Am I a man or am I the woman? I
feel like I'm the woman here? Is that they're all
they're all from the world, They're all from her. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
all right now yeah, there you go. All right, Okay,
there we go, freakingly, there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
She is a freak bro. Why do I come on?
Kick it off?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Jonas?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Let's go, Jonahs.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So I've got to read this exactly the way Lee
wrote it.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
That is how the text message is. You just have
to fill in the blank. It's like an ad lib.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, mhm, come on, Jontas. All right, I'll try
and keep it sports related. Yeah exactly. I want to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Put my puck in your net and then marry you.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, well done, well done, joh. Pressure is on now?
Uh do we have to I guess do we have
to like stay with sports that are currently going on
right now? Oh no, there's a lot to choose from.
If you want to do cricket or badminton. I feel
(27:43):
like you could get right on the edge of golf.
Sure could. Yeah, all right, here we go.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Only if you put that gap wedge in me, then
you can do whatever you want to make.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Dang. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Uh you better crave it because you're going to be
stuck with it for life after you put that big.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Wooden bat in me. Do you have one?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Oh? No, his aluminum?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Not that again. You want to go it again? You
want to you want to switch it up and do
it again. Let's do it again, laughing. I keep going.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's still laughing matter. By the way, these are the
text messages that were released.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Do you not have a text message? I don't have one. No, No,
there was more than three.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh, there was definitely way more than three. You're playing
it safe.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Can you explain to the audience briefly that may be
a little confused.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Why we're reading. Yeah, these are texts that were sent
from Gabrielle Zuniga alleging that you what Gabriella Zia she
has sued Sharp for Uh he released her name? Yeah,
Oh yeah, he released their name. Oh geez, he released
their name. Well the lawsuit, Yeah, her name is public.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Oh well, some referred to her as Doe and some
of the reports I've seen.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Depending on the state you're in, you have to you
keep keep protect the identity of the accuser, or you
have to release your name. Actually, depending on what the accusation.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I thought what I read, Shannon Sharp released her name
because he released the messages that were going back and
forth and their entire.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Sharp has released these text messages.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
From his and apparently, as Jonas is, don't falling victim to,
I'm just doing reach everybody and their mama started googling
the name. And that's not like she the lady. There's
a lady on Instagram from Kennedy has been She's been
pleading for people to leave her alone because she is
(30:15):
not the person that is a part of this this accusation.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh you know who that used to happen to. You know,
the bodybuilder j Cutler.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So whenever Jay Cutler had a bad game, Bears fans
would light.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Them up on their bodybuilders. And Jay Cutler is like
one of the all time great bodybuilders.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
It's not me, mister Olympia, that's crazy, not me. So
sometimes you get the get caught up, you know, all right, well,
well there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean the Ravens, great broadcasters, Jerry Sandusty, Jerry san
whoa yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I gotta say, if you're suing for fifty million dollars,
what type of information do you believe you haven't and
if it's based upon the the R word. If it's
based upon the R word, and you're throwing I want
fifty million dollars while while saying that this is you,
(31:16):
you've our worded me to me, there's gotta be there's
gotta be repercussions and consequences. If Shannon Sharp were to
decide to fight it and he wins, Like if this
is like you're trying, If he's basically saying he's being shook.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Down in this scenario and it's extortion, well, what are
the what's the extortion?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
What what does she have on you that's worth her
saying I want fifty million dollars from you? Like, to me,
that is first of all, that's that's a ton of
money like that lady.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I don't know her, but I'm pretty.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Sure I could safely say she's probably not going to
generate fifty million dollars possibly in her lifetime. So you're
going after fifty million dollars of compensation based off of what?
What are you basing that value off of? That to
me is kind of like the damages the what like
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what are you basing that off of? I don't know, man,
And if you're throwing it at him that way with
Buzzby as you're who is known for shaking down people
you know in the industry, What what do they have
on him? Information wise? Like Buzzby's built up quite a
(32:41):
roster of Oh he's I mean, he's a paper chaser,
he's the guy. Now he's a paper chaser man. But
but it's all about getting people to settle, right. Like
the whole his whole hustle is, Oh you got one
of these dudes. They treated you this way, Okay, they
did this. Oh yeah, you got a case. You got
a case. So let's we can get a settlement. We'll
(33:03):
get you go for fifty, you'll get ten fifteen. If
that's the case. What is it that you have over
this man that could come out where they would settle
for an undisclosed amount of money, however much that is,
but just settled it.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
What do you got on this dude? Man? That would
be my next question. It's ah, and who's next?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Because you know, every time one comes out and does it,
somebody else comes after. So is this the start of something?
It's a world I have no knowledge and I don't
want to. I don't get it. Yeah, I don't. I
don't get it. There's some cats got some weird, weird
things they be doing in their private time. Man, that's
(33:47):
all I say them. Text messages sound crazy? Bro cuugh up?
Like what that's your response?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Lead what? Lee?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I would just yes, I would, I would just uh
I would. I would put this on your highlight.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Film of Like.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh, anybody want to question my producing skills? I got
one for you. Let me go ahead and write a
script based on text messages that were leaked and said
to Shannon Sharp unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh well right, everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
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Speaker 2 (34:34):
We welcome in the smooth operator himself, the one and
only Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnists for CBS Sports, CBS
Sports HQ Analyst. You can get them on X if
you want some of that smoke at Prisco, CBS. Pete,
what's happening, Good morning to you?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Good Joe was the month off?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It was great? Wow, great, wow, It's great, Pete Love.
Don't you take off the.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Entire summer, Like, don't you literally take off the entire
summer and you will not come into work.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Not the entire summer, but I take off a lot
of it. Yes, that's yes.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
And then and then from what my understanding is, this
is all from Jamie Eisenberg.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You can blame him.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Now.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
You will not, and I repeat, will not go into
studio instead, just work from home when they do request you.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
No, I mean, if I have projects I'm working on,
I'll go into the studio and do them. If I don't,
then I'll do something from home. Absolutely, that's correct. Yeah,
I'm not that. That is not I'm not going to
the shy away from that. That is absolutely one hunder correct.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Do you do you tell them one hundred years old?
Do you tell them or do you or do you
ask them?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Pete, Well, I mean I get my time off. I
mean it's it's in it's in my contract that I
get time off. And uh, you know, we we used
to get you know, per year, how many years you've
been to the company, used to get so many years,
and they change so many weeks and they change that.
So now it's we work at a company now where
you can take as much time off as you want to,
as long as you get it approved. So I think, yeah,
(36:04):
so I take my time off. By the way I've
been there is this. I'll be twenty five years in November.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about Hey, longevity, man. This business
doesn't give longevity to too many. So good for you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I got to ask you, how come people are giving
you a hard time about your Mason Graham thoughts?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Now, like, go what happened there? Because I thought you
like Dave Whitel too.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I thought you were high on him, and all of
a sudden, now people are coming after you for your rankings.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
No, I am high. I am high on him. I
think he's a good player. I just I just don't
think he's you know, a dominant, dominant player. And by
that I mean I don't if you draft him five six,
seven eight, you're not getting Jalen Carter getting a good
football player. And so that's why I went back and
I did more work on him. I've watched more tape
on him, and I like him, I don't love him,
(36:56):
and I think there's a lot of that in this draft.
I think we get a lot of that you like
that you don't love, and he is one of them.
And look, he's not a big guy. He's not an
overpowering guy. He plays with a lot of technique and leverage,
and the wrestling background shows up. But I just don't
know if he's going to be an elite defensive tackle,
which is why there's concerns about him. And so people
(37:18):
push back, why did you like him early in the process,
Because I went back and watch more of them. That's
usually what you do in this process.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
So Pete, you do something that's pretty cool. It's your
Pete Prisco's better than teams. It's the team that you
like better than what the scouts and I guess some
of the people are putting together in mock drafts. Give
me the biggest guy, like the guy is gonna go
the highest on your better than team. Like a guy
that not many people are mocking to go in the
first round, or not many people are as high on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
As you are in this particular draft.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
We'll bring you with that. I try and stay what
I try and steer clear of the first round ers.
That's ideally try to do, okay, because I mean, there
are guys I like in the first round more than
maybe than other and and so. Yeah, but they're going
to go in the first round. I mean, but I
don't put him on this team. And I'll give you
an example. I think Simmons Day, offensive tackle from Ohio State,
(38:10):
is the best offensive lineman in this draft class.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I mean, he's a When you watch him on tape, Brady,
he looks like he weighed two hundred and forty pounds
and he's three twenty. Yeah, and so I but so
he would be on the team. But he's a first
rounder in my book. So I didn't put him on
the team. As far as guys on the better than team,
the captain is the better than team, which, by the way,
in the years past has been some hits, there's been
a few misses. But I had Levonte David way back
(38:35):
in the day. I had Grady Jarrett way back in
the day. My captain this year is Jamari Caldwell, the
defensive tackle from Oregon. You look, you put on the
tape and you watch Oregon's defense, and I like those guys.
I like Harmon, I like Burch a lot, but Caldwell
showed up in the biggest way. And I say that
because he's a big body guy. He probably needs to
drop a few and I think he'll get in better
(38:56):
shape because he doesn't look like that. You know, he
was in the same shape he wasn't he was with
Houston where he had six and a half sax. But
he's one of those guys that he plays hard all
the time and get up the field to command the double.
He's a better pass rusher you to think he is.
And I think he's one of those guys third round,
somebody's going second. Late in the second round, somebody's going
to look at him and go, you know what, they
stole him because he's that kind of player, and so
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he was the captain of the team. He's one of
those guys. I would put him at the back end
of the first round. I don't think he'll go there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Pete, you have Travis Hunter going number one, and you
made comparisons to Justin Jefferson like type talent, and me
and Q had talked about you saying that or writing
about it. So you feel like he should go number one.
That's the short pick. And do you think that he
can be a Justin Jefferson type of talent playing both ways?
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Well, I don't know if he's going to play both ways.
I know he keeps saying he wants to play both ways,
but look, you guys have been in the NFL. You
know it's impossible to play both ways except for situationally,
and I think he can do that. I think he's
a receiver. I initially thought he was a corner, but
I think he's going to be a great receiver. And
if you're the Tennessee Titan, you said, well, we're not
going to pass on a generational talents taken quarterback, Well,
(40:11):
yes you are, because you're taking cam Ward, you're not
taking Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter is the best player in
this draft and it's not close. That's how good he is.
And so I think if you're the Tennessee Titans and
that mock draft I put out there is who they
should take mock draft, I think they should take Travis Hunter.
Worry about the quarterback class next year because I'm not
a big butt. Look, I like cam Ward, I don't
(40:32):
love him, and when you're in a position to take
a generational player, you take him. And that's why I
put Travis Hunters in the one spot. Yes, he could
be a lot like Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Uh Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio
at Prisco CBS is where you can find him on X.
Is there a rumor or something you've heard as far
as a move potentially in the draft that is your
scratching your head that you don't get one that you
totally disagree with.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I don't get the Tyler shuck an infatuation. I don't
understand that as a potential first round pick. I just
don't see it. You look, he's a big, strong arm kid,
but he bounced around about twelve schools, he had some
injury histories, he's twenty six years old. I think he's
a project. I don't see him being a first round
pick and unless and yet you hear people talking about it,
(41:20):
which is surprising to me, don't. I don't understand that
one at all. As far as you know, guys, here's
the thing at the top, A lot of teams. You know,
there's teams that would love to move down. Nobody wants
to move up, and there's nobody biting on moving up.
You look at five, six seven, there's nobody. Nobody has
given any indication whatsoever that they want to go up
(41:41):
and get into those players, which tells you this is
a draft that has from seven to sixty five. There's
a lot of guys that are interchangeable. There's not that
many stars at the top of the draft, which is
why you don't get a lot of people clamoring to
go up and get them. So those are a lot
of things you're hearing. I don't The quarterback infatuation to
me is crazy. I get it. If you don't have one,
(42:02):
you got to try and fix it. But if Shador Sanders,
Tyler Schuck, you know, mill Row, any of these other
guys were in last year's draft, they would have gone
behind five of those guys. If they're in next year's draft,
they probably go behind five of those guys. So why
are you panicking to fix your quarterback situation when you
don't have to? And I think that's part of the
problem with drafting in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well, yeah, that's what i'd ask.
Speaker 7 (42:25):
I mean, long, look, if we're looking at the teams
that are drafting outside of Tennessee, which you've been a
big proponent of Will Lovis, but they aren't at a
spot to take cam Ward, who everyone seems to agree
is the best quarterback in this draft class, I guess
they can go that route. But for everyone else, I mean,
whether it's the New York Giants who went the veteran route,
which I know you're not a fan of their veterans,
(42:45):
but it doesn't sound like they want to take a
quarterback at three. Cleveland won a unique route, they got
Peckett Picket, They've got Joe Flacco. Maybe they should still
take one, just not in the first round. There the
Saints concerns about Derek Carr and his shoulder, so who
knows if they end up taking one at that spot.
Like when you're really looking at the landscape of who
needs a quarterback, Pittsburgh's the only team that really comes
(43:07):
to mind, and they're not in striking distance, so they're
gonna have to wait essentially until someone falls to them.
And that's if Aaron Rodgers decides he does or doesn't
want to go there. So I guess my question is
do you see Shadoor Jackson dart sliding like all the
way out of the first round just because of maybe
(43:28):
the lack of need. And then there may be being
between Aaron Rodgers or trading for Kirk Cousins some other
veteran options.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Yes, I think it's possible. But again, desperation does weird
things to teams. I mean, look, if I was evaluating
who was the most desperate in your mind, that like
you could see taking one that if we're going to
say that, you could see taking one that. We're talking
about the Giants, and you know, you're starting to hear
rumblings around the league that maybe they're back in on
(43:56):
shud or Standers, which they shouldn't be, but you're starting
to hear some of that as we can eat up
to the draft. I just I just don't think that
they You know, you got desperate people there. You got
desperate guys, you Stable and Joe Shaneer, you know, drafting
for the job. So who makes the pick? Does the
ownership step in and say, look, we're going to make
the pick. This is what you're gonna say, you're gonna take.
(44:16):
So I think they're desperate. I think they're the most
desperate team of all of them. But if you're sitting
there at three and you got a chance to draft
ab Duel Carter or Shador Sanders, you take Abdul Carter,
you draft, you draft the generational pass rusher and figure
it out with how many guys you have there, and
then go back and get your quarterback. I just don't understand,
(44:36):
you know, pushing this. I wouldn't take Shador Sanders in
the first round. I wouldn't take Jackson Dart in the
first round. I would take Shark in the first round.
And they wouldn't take mill Row in the first round.
That's just me, that's my evaluation. I would not take
any of them in the first round. I don't love
cam Woord. This is not a great quarterback class. Next
year you have a chance to have good quarterbacks and
really good quarterbacks arch Manning, nous Meyer, Sellers. I mean,
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there's Levitt, There are guys that can even guys that
can emerge next year. So why put yourself in a
position where you're drafting a guy that you kind of
like but you don't really love and try and fix
your quarterback position. I think that's a major mistake.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Get him on x A.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That was my favorite subtle. I mean they might be
on or Sanders, they shouldn't be. Do you follow Paul Hammond?
Do you follow ww at Alpete?
Speaker 6 (45:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
You know what, That's one thing I've never watched in
my entire life, is WWA. I've never watched, even dating
back to when what the back when the Andre the
Giant was a big deal. No, I never watched it
because you know why, I always knew it was fake.
If somebody really hits you over the damn head with
a chair, you're going to the emergency room and you're
(45:49):
having brain surgery.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
So it was always a.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Way they do, Babe, don't you know that from experience.
Didn't hit somebody with the chair one time?
Speaker 6 (45:57):
No, but if I was forced to, I would.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
It's scripted, Pete, But it's real. You have to be real, LeVar,
stop it.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
It's not real. Break if somebody did it, if somebody
did what they did to another human being, that the
same stuff they try to pretend it is real in
that ring, they'd be dead. Stop.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
See look look at the happening.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Look at the list of guys that hair anymore, Pete,
you know what it is.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
It's choreographed dancing in the ring.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Is what it is. It is some of it, but
some of it is at lib You know, LeVar, you're.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
That kid that was like sixteen going oh my god,
this is so real.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
No, I was just saying how awesome they were, Pete.
You know, I was just taking it at face value.
You clearly were my cousin that was there, like, what
are you watching this for? And you were running around
in your diaper.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
That's what it was, Pete. If you could hit, if
you could, I'll be in a diaper when I go
at twelve years old. At twelve years old, though.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Pete, Pete, Pete, if you could, if you could hit
one media member over the head with a steel chair,
who would it be.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
I will keep that. I will keep that to myself.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Smart.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's a veteran mox at Prisco, cbs P.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
We appreciate it. Enjoy the draft. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
There he is
This is the best of two pros and a couple
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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We're gonna be taking you all the way up until
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(00:38):
have got all sorts of NBA playoff reaction. We got
the NFL Draft inching closer. Pete Prisco's gonna stop by
for red ass Tuesdays with Pete. It's gonna be a
fun ride here for the next three hours. Kawhi Leonard's back.
Dison up the Denver Nuggets last night, even in that
(00:58):
series at one, How the hell we feel in area?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah they did. Yeah, that's Clippers man. They're not out
of it yet. No, No, they're not. They're don't write
them off now.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I don't got them getting out of the first round.
But they made it a game last night, so for them,
and they did it in Denver, So in Denver, Yeah,
stole one, stole.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
One in the Male High for them. Go for them.
They needed it, they have a chance, they needed it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, now we've got we'll get
to see the Lakers coming up later and you know,
I feel like we're in full swing. So we're gonna
get NBA playoff games every single night for the next
two months basically. So, uh, that was it was a
fun one. The Pistons beat the Knicks last night. Uh,
Cad Cunningham's a stud and Detroit even zat series. So
(01:49):
they'll send that back to Detroit. And by the way,
Detroit has been one of the more entertaining teams to
watch all year long because you just never know when
there's going to be a stuff. They're similar to Houston,
so that should get a little bit spicy there between
those two teams. Also, so fun stuff last night. And
then you know the gift that keeps on giving. Nico Harrison,
(02:13):
the GM of the Dallas Mavericks, the guy who authored
up one of the more puzzling trades in the history
of the sport.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
He spoke yesterday and he talked with the media about his.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Decision to trade Luca, and he went on to reveal
that he was not aware of the impact that might
have on the fan base there in Dallas, and was
asked a very pointed question in the middle of the conversation.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I did know that Luca was important to the to
the fan base, I didn't quite know it to what level.
But really the way we looked at it is, you know,
if you're putting on the if you're putting a team
on the floor, that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis and Lively.
We've so that's a championship caliber team, and we would
(03:02):
have been winning at a high level and that would
acquieted some of the outrage. Uh And so unfortunately we
weren't able to do that. So it just continued to,
you know, go.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
On and on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Why shouldn't you be fired?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
One?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I think I've done a really good job here and
I don't think I can be judged by the injuries
this year. You have to judge from totality from beginning
to end, and so I think I have a really
good working relationship with Patrick, I think you had in Rick.
The leadership that we have is really elite. And you'll
see next year when our team comes back, we're going
to be competing for a championship.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So there's there's Nico Harrison straight up why shouldn't you
be Why should you be fired?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
By the way, that's that's how you.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Know that the decision was not a great one to
trade Luca when one of the questions is so, why
shouldn't you be fired? Like like not like, hey, so
what do you think of the job you've done here? No,
like you tell us why you shouldn't be clipped after
this year? So he's having to wear it right now?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Can I pose this question? Though? Yeah, why can't we
just wait and see how this works out?
Speaker 7 (04:10):
I mean, this is a team that went to the
conference finals and the NBA Finals and another season and
wasn't the play in this year. It's like we just like,
wait to see how this plays out instead of just
immediately saying this guy stinks, we need to fire him.
Terrible decisions, Like okay, hold on for a second. Can
we see how he builds the roster. They've been a
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good basketball team since he took over and they've been competitive.
Granted with Luca, can we see what things look like
without them next season? Like, what's what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's fair because the injuries are not his fault, like
Anthony Davis going down as early as he did. Now
you could say, well, he's had injury history. But all right,
I mean, listen, there were there were conditioning concerns about
Luca Kyrie's injury. That's just that's terrible luck. And it
seemed like everything fell apart after that.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I do think.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Though, that if you take over that job, your goal
is to how do we build around Luca? Like that
should be point one goal number one, and instead it
was he's gone.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
But that's your opinion. You might look at it and say,
that's not the guy we want to build around. We'd
rather get someone like Ad to pair with Kyrie, to
pair with Claye Thompson to you know, how this is
the construct of what we feel like we need to win.
I mean, the opening game loss to the Timberwolves, what
was the thing they needed the most? Probably a true center. Yeah,
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I mean that was at least the recap of the game.
How a lot of people looked at it like, oh,
it would have been nice if the Lakers had a
true center, it's not there for them anymore. I'm just
saying we tend to make these hot takes in a vacuum.
It just we have no patience for waiting to see
how this is going to play out.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's not like I mean, if that Lakers don't.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Make it out of the series, are people gonna be
frustrated with Luca? Are they to be flush frustrated with Lebron?
How do you look at the Lakers in that instance.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, they're going to judge Lebron more than they're going
to judge Luca. But I'll say to answer your question, no,
people don't want to wait to see because we live
in the now generation and.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's very very instant people. Did you like that?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
They just people want what they want now. It's very instant,
instant gratification, instant results, instant everything. And if it's not
what you want then because the way today's you know,
generations are being classically conditioned. It's I need a solution
and I want results and I want it now. And
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that's you know, I think that that's what a lot
of these gms, it's a lot of what these owners
are facing. It's a lot of what these players are facing,
and we're seeing it play out in different ways. We're
seeing it play out from the general manager's perspective, We're
seeing it play out from the contract negotiations perspective for
the players, the agents, and the organizations. Hell, we're seeing
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it with retirements of jerseys. So it's just a very instant,
instant time frame, instant time period we're in right now
and just looking at what took place with Dallas, whether
they were going to build around Luca or not. You know,
Anthony Davis definitely could be considered to be comparable in
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terms of an exchange in a trade. It was a
mega trade, one of the biggest trades ever. Question Marks
surrounded both players in some categories. But to say you
didn't realize what the value of Luca was to the
fan base, I would say that that might have been
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the most poorly played part of it. To think that
you would get rid of one of the youngest, brightest
stars and out of your organization and think that there
wouldn't be any type of backlash or repercussions connected to
just moving him, I think that's that's a horrible underestimation.
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Of the value of what type of player Luka Doncic is.
So I think that was to me. Outside of that,
I didn't have anything. I didn't have any problems with
what Nico's you know what his response was, that's starting
five that he named. That is an elite starting five.
That is a championship caliber starting five. And he has
done a great job. But at the end of the day,
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just because you've done a great job, if you make
a decision and that decision doesn't yield you that instant,
that instant bang, that boom impact effect, then people are
going to have things to say because we're now in
a day and age where people are very comfortable passing
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judgments on what people's jobs are and how they do them.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There's just gotta be more to that story with him
and Luca and what do you think it is.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You're trying to dig in deep here.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They went, you know, on the surface, basically almost fat
shamed the guy after he left his conditioning his cardio
all that it must have been so bad.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So you're saying it's because he was white, is what
you want to say? A white guy for bringing a
black athlete rights.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, can we run down can you say what
you mean? Can we can we use that as the
headline please? Because you want to talk about views that'll
move it. They had an issue with the match color.
This is the NBA after all, tang. I just there's
got to be more to what has been reported that
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as well. You know, defense wins championships.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, but you know, like Luca, you know, is.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
One of the better young talents we've seen in the
league in the last X amount of years.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Like, that's a guy that you would, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Assuming, want to partner with moving forward. Like that's the
guy you try and keep and build around, ad defensive
pieces around him, trying to and there was no perspective.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
They brought him to the Lakers, and now he's the
instant face of the Lakers team that has the face
arguably of the NBA on their team.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
How does that work? So to your point, you're you're right.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I mean, he's got so much cashay, he's got so
much potential, he's got so much star power that he
is now deemed the face of this LA Lakers team.
Why would you give that away? We're not saying that
about Anthony Davis going to Dallas? Are we are we saying,
Anthony Davis is the face of the Dallas Maverick that's
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Jack's town.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Anyways, If he is the face, does the unibrow? I
mean is that? How does that hit you? Guys? I'm
just saying, does he still have that thing?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm still ever going to get rid of it? I
think it is there. I think it has to be there.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
That is the face like V and you just kind
of know, like it's not V for Vendetta, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, I mean, that's great. Is there is there?
Is there anything?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
I feel like that's next to like a booger in
someone's nose that you're like, you want to tell them
but you can't. The unibrow is the next thing that
you're going, Man, I can't stop looking at it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Or what a gap in your front teeth? That's the one. Yeah,
But there's like a lot of people that that have that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Like we just watched the New Captain America movie with
Anthony Mackie.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
He has a gap. Yeah, he has a gap, but
you can't you don't really notice it, So I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What about what about an eyebeard? You ever seen the
people that have those? They got the hair that's underneath
the eye, like he grows up on the on the cheekbone.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, that's a real thing. Iebeards. What are you talking about?
You never seen anybody beard?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, well it's like it it's facial hair in sort
of the beard region, but it grows so high man
type stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, like underneath the uh the eye onore. Have you
seen what he's talking about?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I actually have to say I have, I have. Would
you describe you know who gets it? And it's not
so much the eye, but it comes up from the face.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is is it Edelman?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, Julian Edelman does.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he's got He's got like that type of facial
hair configuration.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Is that just a beard that just grows like all.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
The way up to your face, like like literally your
entire face.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I feel like it's a pretty easy get you know,
you just.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Just get rid of it like that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
All I know is is at the end of the
day that you and a brow has not done anything
to keep him healthy the year than what he has
been that would have.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Been outside of outside of any I.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Think it does. I think it's like his kryptonite. I
think if he were to do something with that Univerrow,
he would stop getting these injuries. No, seriously, I would say, yeah,
you're right at this point, wouldn't you, But wouldn't you
wouldn't you say if if the injury concerns weren't associated
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with Anthony Davis, you can't have a problem with this
trade boring any injury concerns about Anthony Davis, you can't
have a problem with this track.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, I think they could have gotten more that Like
Mark Cuban, one of his initial thoughts was, you know,
I thought we could have gotten more, Like there was
like either another first I forget the exact.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Details, but you do know Anthony Davis, A healthy Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Might be the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean that's the problem to be It's a
big if.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I well, that makes the point, right if he's healthy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
So I just feel like with artificial intelligence, sweats going out,
like they'll figure it out at some point, like at
the end of eighties.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Career and be a save him plug him up. I
don't know. I don't know bout that I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I mean, artificial artificial intelligence, just plug him in, like
go sit in a chair, plug up, you know. I mean,
that's what all these red light treatments and lasers.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And all this stuff kind of is anyway, right, that's
a good point. You said red light district Did I
say red light treatments? Treatments? Sorry? Yeah, red light red
light treatment or red light districts have played apartment. Sure
why they have their own treatments, don't they? I mean
Bobby Orchids would say they do.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That is a you know, it is a good point.
Elon Musk with all the advancements they've made AI wise,
Like can he find like a charging station that some
of these players.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Can just just do go sit on the sideline? They
got docking stations right there onto that line.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey, will this get me through eighty two? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Like some uh neo type stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah,
the matrix I'm with you stick it right in the
back of his head.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I do appreciate that we opened the site when Jonas
wanted to fire Nico Harrison, and I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Know, head's already. I don't want anybody that I will
never listen as somebody who has been fired. It sucks.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I never call for anybody's job. It just feels like
we're getting to ever No, I never never, ever, ever.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
What's the worst part about being fired? Mmm, well, it
depends on how it's done. Have you ever been fired? Yeah,
you have been fired. Yeah, you get cut, cut as fire. Yeah.
How do make you feel? I'm trying to think the
first time it happened, about to say it feels different sometimes, Like,
well I was.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I was more caught off guard by it because of
the timing of everything, and honestly had a good preseason
so I was like, oh okay, and I knew I
was going to sign like almost immediately, so it didn't
bother me quite as much.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
In the year eight.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
That's what bothered me the most because on the way
in when I talked to the Dolphins in training camp,
I had a chance to go up and go to
training camp with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I had worked out.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
With them, and we were talking with them, and I'm
like in the player's lounge of the Dolphins, and it
was a whole fiasco.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like my agent was flying.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
At the time, so there's no like he was on
like a long flight cross country, so there's no way
I could call him and talk to him. The Dolphins
were trying to sign me and I'm trying to figure
out like do I want to do this or do
I want to wait and try to go up to
New England, which at that point in time, I was like,
it's not It wasn't even about if I was going
to make like the New England roster or not. In
(16:54):
my mind, I was like, I wanted to be around Tom.
I wanted to be like in a training camp with him.
I wanted to be around Bill Belichick. And that was
when they saw Ryan Mallet, so there's a chance of
like depending on how many they were going to keep.
And I knew the system, so all those things were
lining up to like this that would have made way
more sense. And at the time I just got married,
(17:15):
my in laws lived up there, so it kind of
made sense for our family too, at least for my
wife and I. And it ended up working out where
I was. I was living in South Florida, so I
was like, all right, I'll just kind of stay here
and do this. And I knew Joe Joe Filman as
the coach, but the general manager at the time, you know,
kind of ballatantly lied about just what the situation was
(17:36):
and even the opportunity, which you know, he was goin I.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Think a kind of a one and done GM, which
was fine.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
But when he did it, I was just like, it
was more of like I literally kind of scolded him.
I was like, dude, just be a man. I'm like,
we knew. We had a conversation on the way going in,
and I said, and this was not what you presented
it to be, and so I said, I kind of
just said to him, I was like, other players just
want the truth, man, I was like, that's all this about.
I was like, don't sugarcoat, don't try to hide it,
(18:02):
don't do things for your un selfish needs. I was like,
just presented them what the actual truth is. I was like,
and they'll be able to handle that. And then he
didn't know how to handle that, like someone actually saying
that to him, and he looked like a little bit
like petrified.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
So was what it was?
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Upset helped him? No, No, they were. They were all
fired after that year, So I don't think he helped anyone.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, it's always discrontal when when it's not, you know,
that's that's the goat for everybody.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Which now, now here's what I'll say to the point,
what Jodah's made about Nico. What you realize are oftentimes
people who are in those general manager positions or even
a leadership position, they're out of touch with the rest
of us, Like they're not capable of being social or
having like sympathy, empathy, having that eq to be able
(18:58):
to relate to people. So in this instance, yeah, it's awful.
Then Niko was like, yeah, I was unaware of how
much you know? Well, dude, what how how could you
be unaware of that? At what point were you unaware
of the fact that Luke is one of the best
players in the NBA. He's obviously an international player, which
even comes with more fan fare and just kind of
(19:19):
people think it is cool. It's not just like a normal,
you know, United States white guy. He's an international white guy.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
He's exotic, first off, doing that, like that's.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Not a real thing. Okay, it is a real thing.
It's like Vadi Devoc everyone's dude, he's so cool. He
smokes cigarettes like over there, right on the corner. But
the truth is, sometimes you get those leaders in those
positions that do not know how to relate to the
fan base. They don't understand how it's going to be
received or even with players like you know, in this case,
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Michael Finley taking his beer, like, how's how's that going
to be taken by by Luca?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
In that instance, he must have had real Boozehound. If
that supporo was the one that was then, by the way.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Can't speaking of the real boost Lee, How would you
feel if someone, if let's say, if Scott Shapiro try
to come by and take what you're beer?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
How would you feel that take my beer? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Like, way after celebrating like a great year or like
a big time event that we pulled off. How would
you to take by your take your beer from you?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'd offer Scott my beer. That's fine, you think you
could do this, You can have my beer.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
It's be he's not drinking your beer and take it
away from you, saying you can't celebrate with the beer.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, he's insinuating that you're not responsible enough for yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So let me be responsible for you. Hmmm. I trust Scott.
I'll take Scott's advice.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
See what the reason why Lee would allow that to
happen is because I would is because he would have
a flask in his pond.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'll be so taken back. I'd be so taken back.
If somebody walked up to me manager boss CEO, I
don't give a damn. I'd be taking back, like what
are you doing? Why are you touching my beer?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Luca must have a liver like a corpse for them
for them to walk up and take his beer out
of his handle. Hey, I don't know. It might not
even be that bad of a deal with the camera.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
It might have just been it might have just been image,
Like Michael Finley was aware that the cameras were rolling
and he just didn't Maybe that's not the image that
he wanted portrayed for for Luca.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Pore champagne on each other in baseball and every other
sport if they if they win a division, if they
do this, he's holding one.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I don't feel like it was maliciously done. I don't
feel like it was done in an intervention type of manner.
I just think Michael Finley was on some like big
brother type stuff, like you know, like you're talking, the
cameras are rolling, like let me get that beer off
of you, like I want to make or I'm protecting you,
protect your image. Whether that's the truth or not, I
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don't think. I mean, we'll know if Michael Finley ever
comes out and says it or Luca says something about it.
But I think the reality there is is that I
would be bothered no matter what his intentions were, Like,
what are you coming into my personal space for taking
away the beverage that I chose to have at this
moment in time?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The game is over?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
If the game was pregame, I get it, Like, what
are you doing, dude, Like give me that beer?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like you can't be drinking a beer before the game.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I get that the game is over, player, Like, why
are you taking a beer out of my hand? You
don't step your ass away from me, a grown ass man.
But anyways, that's how I would feel about it. Back
to Lee, Hey buddy, you just take my beer.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
That's that's what I was just gonna say, Scot Oh,
hey buddy, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Buddy, Aleikadleika daunt Is that fairly after?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Could you imagine if Leeka, who like like was a
former NBA player and he's doing his job, I believe
imagine that Lee.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Was exotic and not just from California, Like if he
was from somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
People be like, oh my gosh, you see the way
he tresses. Isn't that talmy bahama doesn't make it different.
That's this way about him, just so carefree and from where?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, what was your your dominant background in your uh
spit in a tube and send it off test you did?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh? It was me. It was Irish and British. Okay,
I thought it was Dutch, but nope, No, Dutch, Irish
and British. Huh yep. Interesting, Well that explains a lot.
Track O'Leary four liquor store came out as a white
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piece of paper ready to drink. It was a damn
piece of paper that tracks. Not even Ireland was ready
for Lee G and T Please, I'm sorry, t Hey
(24:12):
you breath you breathe it all over me. I wish
you guys would have been there. I couldn't. I could
not contain myself. I was drooling. I couldn't. I was
almost sobbing, laughing so hard.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He's got his he's got his arms crossed because we're
so cramped up in the four seater in the back
of the plane.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
He's got his arms crossed. He like opens up.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
One eye to her as she removes her COVID mask
to tell him to get offer her this moment's eighty
five and no chance in Algie's still alive after that
plane and Lee Lee just looks at her and then
with his one eye open, looks back over to me
and just smiles. It.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Heybody, unbelievable. Whatever that lady, That lady for sure is
daddy oh goddy. In fact, she vanished not a shot
(25:20):
now cas are taking it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Right after the fight, She's like, I've seen enoughing take me, Jesus,
take me away, Jesus.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That is rusty ass man was just breathing all over me.
I don't want to live anymore. And we smelled so
bad after we got off that plane.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Ten hours, ten hours of mini bottles and yingling oh
no on the flight back.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oly God.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
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Speaker 3 (26:05):
All Right, does everybody have the script? Did everybody get that?
I need more context?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Who am I in this? Hold on? Hold on? What
second pause? Who am I in this? Am I?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Am I a man or am I the woman? I
feel like I'm the woman here? Is that they're all
they're all from the world, They're all from her. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
all right now yeah, there you go. All right, Okay,
there we go, freakingly, there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
She is a freak bro. Why do I come on?
Kick it off?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Jonas?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Let's go, Jonahs.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So I've got to read this exactly the way Lee
wrote it.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
That is how the text message is. You just have
to fill in the blank. It's like an ad lib.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, mhm, come on, Jontas. All right, I'll try
and keep it sports related. Yeah exactly. I want to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Put my puck in your net and then marry you.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, well done, well done, joh. Pressure is on now?
Uh do we have to I guess do we have
to like stay with sports that are currently going on
right now? Oh no, there's a lot to choose from.
If you want to do cricket or badminton. I feel
(27:43):
like you could get right on the edge of golf.
Sure could. Yeah, all right, here we go.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Only if you put that gap wedge in me, then
you can do whatever you want to make.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Dang. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Uh you better crave it because you're going to be
stuck with it for life after you put that big.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Wooden bat in me. Do you have one?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Oh? No, his aluminum?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Not that again. You want to go it again? You
want to you want to switch it up and do
it again. Let's do it again, laughing. I keep going.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's still laughing matter. By the way, these are the
text messages that were released.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Do you not have a text message? I don't have one. No, No,
there was more than three.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh, there was definitely way more than three. You're playing
it safe.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Can you explain to the audience briefly that may be
a little confused.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Why we're reading. Yeah, these are texts that were sent
from Gabrielle Zuniga alleging that you what Gabriella Zia she
has sued Sharp for Uh he released her name? Yeah,
Oh yeah, he released their name. Oh geez, he released
their name. Well the lawsuit, Yeah, her name is public.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Oh well, some referred to her as Doe and some
of the reports I've seen.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Depending on the state you're in, you have to you
keep keep protect the identity of the accuser, or you
have to release your name. Actually, depending on what the accusation.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I thought what I read, Shannon Sharp released her name
because he released the messages that were going back and
forth and their entire.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Sharp has released these text messages.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
From his and apparently, as Jonas is, don't falling victim to,
I'm just doing reach everybody and their mama started googling
the name. And that's not like she the lady. There's
a lady on Instagram from Kennedy has been She's been
pleading for people to leave her alone because she is
(30:15):
not the person that is a part of this this accusation.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh you know who that used to happen to. You know,
the bodybuilder j Cutler.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So whenever Jay Cutler had a bad game, Bears fans
would light.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Them up on their bodybuilders. And Jay Cutler is like
one of the all time great bodybuilders.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
It's not me, mister Olympia, that's crazy, not me. So
sometimes you get the get caught up, you know, all right, well,
well there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean the Ravens, great broadcasters, Jerry Sandusty, Jerry san
whoa yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I gotta say, if you're suing for fifty million dollars,
what type of information do you believe you haven't and
if it's based upon the the R word. If it's
based upon the R word, and you're throwing I want
fifty million dollars while while saying that this is you,
(31:16):
you've our worded me to me, there's gotta be there's
gotta be repercussions and consequences. If Shannon Sharp were to
decide to fight it and he wins, Like if this
is like you're trying, If he's basically saying he's being shook.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Down in this scenario and it's extortion, well, what are
the what's the extortion?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
What what does she have on you that's worth her
saying I want fifty million dollars from you? Like, to me,
that is first of all, that's that's a ton of
money like that lady.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I don't know her, but I'm pretty.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Sure I could safely say she's probably not going to
generate fifty million dollars possibly in her lifetime. So you're
going after fifty million dollars of compensation based off of what?
What are you basing that value off of? That to
me is kind of like the damages the what like
(32:19):
what are you basing that off of? I don't know, man,
And if you're throwing it at him that way with
Buzzby as you're who is known for shaking down people
you know in the industry, What what do they have
on him? Information wise? Like Buzzby's built up quite a
(32:41):
roster of Oh he's I mean, he's a paper chaser,
he's the guy. Now he's a paper chaser man. But
but it's all about getting people to settle, right. Like
the whole his whole hustle is, Oh you got one
of these dudes. They treated you this way, Okay, they
did this. Oh yeah, you got a case. You got
a case. So let's we can get a settlement. We'll
(33:03):
get you go for fifty, you'll get ten fifteen. If
that's the case. What is it that you have over
this man that could come out where they would settle
for an undisclosed amount of money, however much that is,
but just settled it.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
What do you got on this dude? Man? That would
be my next question. It's ah, and who's next?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Because you know, every time one comes out and does it,
somebody else comes after. So is this the start of something?
It's a world I have no knowledge and I don't
want to. I don't get it. Yeah, I don't. I
don't get it. There's some cats got some weird, weird
things they be doing in their private time. Man, that's
(33:47):
all I say them. Text messages sound crazy? Bro cuugh up?
Like what that's your response?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Lead what? Lee?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I would just yes, I would, I would just uh
I would. I would put this on your highlight.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Film of Like.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh, anybody want to question my producing skills? I got
one for you. Let me go ahead and write a
script based on text messages that were leaked and said
to Shannon Sharp unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh well right, everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
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Speaker 2 (34:34):
We welcome in the smooth operator himself, the one and
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Sports HQ Analyst. You can get them on X if
you want some of that smoke at Prisco, CBS. Pete,
what's happening, Good morning to you?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Good Joe was the month off?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It was great? Wow, great, wow, It's great, Pete Love.
Don't you take off the.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Entire summer, Like, don't you literally take off the entire
summer and you will not come into work.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Not the entire summer, but I take off a lot
of it. Yes, that's yes.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
And then and then from what my understanding is, this
is all from Jamie Eisenberg.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You can blame him.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Now.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
You will not, and I repeat, will not go into
studio instead, just work from home when they do request you.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
No, I mean, if I have projects I'm working on,
I'll go into the studio and do them. If I don't,
then I'll do something from home. Absolutely, that's correct. Yeah,
I'm not that. That is not I'm not going to
the shy away from that. That is absolutely one hunder correct.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Do you do you tell them one hundred years old?
Do you tell them or do you or do you
ask them?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Pete, Well, I mean I get my time off. I
mean it's it's in it's in my contract that I
get time off. And uh, you know, we we used
to get you know, per year, how many years you've
been to the company, used to get so many years,
and they change so many weeks and they change that.
So now it's we work at a company now where
you can take as much time off as you want to,
as long as you get it approved. So I think, yeah,
(36:04):
so I take my time off. By the way I've
been there is this. I'll be twenty five years in November.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about Hey, longevity, man. This business
doesn't give longevity to too many. So good for you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I got to ask you, how come people are giving
you a hard time about your Mason Graham thoughts?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Now, like, go what happened there? Because I thought you
like Dave Whitel too.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I thought you were high on him, and all of
a sudden, now people are coming after you for your rankings.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
No, I am high. I am high on him. I
think he's a good player. I just I just don't
think he's you know, a dominant, dominant player. And by
that I mean I don't if you draft him five six,
seven eight, you're not getting Jalen Carter getting a good
football player. And so that's why I went back and
I did more work on him. I've watched more tape
on him, and I like him, I don't love him,
(36:56):
and I think there's a lot of that in this draft.
I think we get a lot of that you like
that you don't love, and he is one of them.
And look, he's not a big guy. He's not an
overpowering guy. He plays with a lot of technique and leverage,
and the wrestling background shows up. But I just don't
know if he's going to be an elite defensive tackle,
which is why there's concerns about him. And so people
(37:18):
push back, why did you like him early in the process,
Because I went back and watch more of them. That's
usually what you do in this process.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
So Pete, you do something that's pretty cool. It's your
Pete Prisco's better than teams. It's the team that you
like better than what the scouts and I guess some
of the people are putting together in mock drafts. Give
me the biggest guy, like the guy is gonna go
the highest on your better than team. Like a guy
that not many people are mocking to go in the
first round, or not many people are as high on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
As you are in this particular draft.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
We'll bring you with that. I try and stay what
I try and steer clear of the first round ers.
That's ideally try to do, okay, because I mean, there
are guys I like in the first round more than
maybe than other and and so. Yeah, but they're going
to go in the first round. I mean, but I
don't put him on this team. And I'll give you
an example. I think Simmons Day, offensive tackle from Ohio State,
(38:10):
is the best offensive lineman in this draft class.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I mean, he's a When you watch him on tape, Brady,
he looks like he weighed two hundred and forty pounds
and he's three twenty. Yeah, and so I but so
he would be on the team. But he's a first
rounder in my book. So I didn't put him on
the team. As far as guys on the better than team,
the captain is the better than team, which, by the way,
in the years past has been some hits, there's been
a few misses. But I had Levonte David way back
(38:35):
in the day. I had Grady Jarrett way back in
the day. My captain this year is Jamari Caldwell, the
defensive tackle from Oregon. You look, you put on the
tape and you watch Oregon's defense, and I like those guys.
I like Harmon, I like Burch a lot, but Caldwell
showed up in the biggest way. And I say that
because he's a big body guy. He probably needs to
drop a few and I think he'll get in better
(38:56):
shape because he doesn't look like that. You know, he
was in the same shape he wasn't he was with
Houston where he had six and a half sax. But
he's one of those guys that he plays hard all
the time and get up the field to command the double.
He's a better pass rusher you to think he is.
And I think he's one of those guys third round,
somebody's going second. Late in the second round, somebody's going
to look at him and go, you know what, they
stole him because he's that kind of player, and so
(39:18):
he was the captain of the team. He's one of
those guys. I would put him at the back end
of the first round. I don't think he'll go there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Pete, you have Travis Hunter going number one, and you
made comparisons to Justin Jefferson like type talent, and me
and Q had talked about you saying that or writing
about it. So you feel like he should go number one.
That's the short pick. And do you think that he
can be a Justin Jefferson type of talent playing both ways?
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Well, I don't know if he's going to play both ways.
I know he keeps saying he wants to play both ways,
but look, you guys have been in the NFL. You
know it's impossible to play both ways except for situationally,
and I think he can do that. I think he's
a receiver. I initially thought he was a corner, but
I think he's going to be a great receiver. And
if you're the Tennessee Titan, you said, well, we're not
going to pass on a generational talents taken quarterback, Well,
(40:11):
yes you are, because you're taking cam Ward, you're not
taking Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter is the best player in
this draft and it's not close. That's how good he is.
And so I think if you're the Tennessee Titans and
that mock draft I put out there is who they
should take mock draft, I think they should take Travis Hunter.
Worry about the quarterback class next year because I'm not
a big butt. Look, I like cam Ward, I don't
(40:32):
love him, and when you're in a position to take
a generational player, you take him. And that's why I
put Travis Hunters in the one spot. Yes, he could
be a lot like Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Uh Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio
at Prisco CBS is where you can find him on X.
Is there a rumor or something you've heard as far
as a move potentially in the draft that is your
scratching your head that you don't get one that you
totally disagree with.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I don't get the Tyler shuck an infatuation. I don't
understand that as a potential first round pick. I just
don't see it. You look, he's a big, strong arm kid,
but he bounced around about twelve schools, he had some
injury histories, he's twenty six years old. I think he's
a project. I don't see him being a first round
pick and unless and yet you hear people talking about it,
(41:20):
which is surprising to me, don't. I don't understand that
one at all. As far as you know, guys, here's
the thing at the top, A lot of teams. You know,
there's teams that would love to move down. Nobody wants
to move up, and there's nobody biting on moving up.
You look at five, six seven, there's nobody. Nobody has
given any indication whatsoever that they want to go up
(41:41):
and get into those players, which tells you this is
a draft that has from seven to sixty five. There's
a lot of guys that are interchangeable. There's not that
many stars at the top of the draft, which is
why you don't get a lot of people clamoring to
go up and get them. So those are a lot
of things you're hearing. I don't The quarterback infatuation to
me is crazy. I get it. If you don't have one,
(42:02):
you got to try and fix it. But if Shador Sanders,
Tyler Schuck, you know, mill Row, any of these other
guys were in last year's draft, they would have gone
behind five of those guys. If they're in next year's draft,
they probably go behind five of those guys. So why
are you panicking to fix your quarterback situation when you
don't have to? And I think that's part of the
problem with drafting in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well, yeah, that's what i'd ask.
Speaker 7 (42:25):
I mean, long, look, if we're looking at the teams
that are drafting outside of Tennessee, which you've been a
big proponent of Will Lovis, but they aren't at a
spot to take cam Ward, who everyone seems to agree
is the best quarterback in this draft class, I guess
they can go that route. But for everyone else, I mean,
whether it's the New York Giants who went the veteran route,
which I know you're not a fan of their veterans,
(42:45):
but it doesn't sound like they want to take a
quarterback at three. Cleveland won a unique route, they got
Peckett Picket, They've got Joe Flacco. Maybe they should still
take one, just not in the first round. There the
Saints concerns about Derek Carr and his shoulder, so who
knows if they end up taking one at that spot.
Like when you're really looking at the landscape of who
needs a quarterback, Pittsburgh's the only team that really comes
(43:07):
to mind, and they're not in striking distance, so they're
gonna have to wait essentially until someone falls to them.
And that's if Aaron Rodgers decides he does or doesn't
want to go there. So I guess my question is
do you see Shadoor Jackson dart sliding like all the
way out of the first round just because of maybe
(43:28):
the lack of need. And then there may be being
between Aaron Rodgers or trading for Kirk Cousins some other
veteran options.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Yes, I think it's possible. But again, desperation does weird
things to teams. I mean, look, if I was evaluating
who was the most desperate in your mind, that like
you could see taking one that if we're going to
say that, you could see taking one that. We're talking
about the Giants, and you know, you're starting to hear
rumblings around the league that maybe they're back in on
(43:56):
shud or Standers, which they shouldn't be, but you're starting
to hear some of that as we can eat up
to the draft. I just I just don't think that
they You know, you got desperate people there. You got
desperate guys, you Stable and Joe Shaneer, you know, drafting
for the job. So who makes the pick? Does the
ownership step in and say, look, we're going to make
the pick. This is what you're gonna say, you're gonna take.
(44:16):
So I think they're desperate. I think they're the most
desperate team of all of them. But if you're sitting
there at three and you got a chance to draft
ab Duel Carter or Shador Sanders, you take Abdul Carter,
you draft, you draft the generational pass rusher and figure
it out with how many guys you have there, and
then go back and get your quarterback. I just don't understand,
(44:36):
you know, pushing this. I wouldn't take Shador Sanders in
the first round. I wouldn't take Jackson Dart in the
first round. I would take Shark in the first round.
And they wouldn't take mill Row in the first round.
That's just me, that's my evaluation. I would not take
any of them in the first round. I don't love
cam Woord. This is not a great quarterback class. Next
year you have a chance to have good quarterbacks and
really good quarterbacks arch Manning, nous Meyer, Sellers. I mean,
(44:58):
there's Levitt, There are guys that can even guys that
can emerge next year. So why put yourself in a
position where you're drafting a guy that you kind of
like but you don't really love and try and fix
your quarterback position. I think that's a major mistake.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Get him on x A.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That was my favorite subtle. I mean they might be
on or Sanders, they shouldn't be. Do you follow Paul Hammond?
Do you follow ww at Alpete?
Speaker 6 (45:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
You know what, That's one thing I've never watched in
my entire life, is WWA. I've never watched, even dating
back to when what the back when the Andre the
Giant was a big deal. No, I never watched it
because you know why, I always knew it was fake.
If somebody really hits you over the damn head with
a chair, you're going to the emergency room and you're
(45:49):
having brain surgery.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
So it was always a.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Way they do, Babe, don't you know that from experience.
Didn't hit somebody with the chair one time?
Speaker 6 (45:57):
No, but if I was forced to, I would.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
It's scripted, Pete, But it's real. You have to be real, LeVar,
stop it.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
It's not real. Break if somebody did it, if somebody
did what they did to another human being, that the
same stuff they try to pretend it is real in
that ring, they'd be dead. Stop.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
See look look at the happening.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Look at the list of guys that hair anymore, Pete,
you know what it is.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
It's choreographed dancing in the ring.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Is what it is. It is some of it, but
some of it is at lib You know, LeVar, you're.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
That kid that was like sixteen going oh my god,
this is so real.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
No, I was just saying how awesome they were, Pete.
You know, I was just taking it at face value.
You clearly were my cousin that was there, like, what
are you watching this for? And you were running around
in your diaper.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
That's what it was, Pete. If you could hit, if
you could, I'll be in a diaper when I go
at twelve years old. At twelve years old, though.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Pete, Pete, Pete, if you could, if you could hit
one media member over the head with a steel chair,
who would it be.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
I will keep that. I will keep that to myself.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Smart.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's a veteran mox at Prisco, cbs P.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
We appreciate it. Enjoy the draft. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
There he is
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