May 1, 2025 • 49 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Timberwolves make short work of the Lakers in Round 1. Falcons DC Jeff Ulbrich publicly apologizes for his son prank calling Shedeur Sanders, but is public backlash too strong? NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer gives his take from the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:06):
How you feeling sticks, I.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Feel good, man.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I thought p eds were supposed to make you you
feel better, not not worse?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Right, Well, look, I wouldn't, oh I would.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean, how many times do you get suspended for
peds before you get banned from competition.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Fuck, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm asking for a friend, and that's all I was asking.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Some people ever have it? I mean, I let'll tell you.
I mean, right, but I do.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Uh, I do want to just address you know, obviously
the big story in the world, story on the top here.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Let's check in live on the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Smells some die so.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, Johnny, that's that's a bit. So that'll be
that for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And I don't know what your read on the game was,
but something became very obvious to me in watching that
game last night from the get go was that Minnesota
was significantly better and the idea that the Lakers were
favored to win the series going into the season was laughable.
Minnesota wasn't good last night. Anthony Edwards wasn't even good.
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They couldn't hit a shot. They were like six of
forty from three. At one point in the fourth quarter,
they had missed ten straight until Conley hit one from
the corner. Outside of Rudy Gobert and Julius Randall, Minnesota
didn't even play that well and The Lakers weren't close.
It wasn't like they can say, well, we took a
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lead here momentarily. Man, they were never in that game
and they came out flat from the jump. The Timberwolves
were by far and away the better team and deserve
to win it in five.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Oh Man, that's strong. That's a strong opinion. I wouldn't
say they weren't very good. I think they played well.
And I think that the one thing you have to
have in the NBA is complimentary basketball. That's why everybody
talks about having more than one superstar on a team.
You know, we saw so many times during Lebron's run
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of dominance where.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There was a need for one or the other two to.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Step up, whether it was Weide or whether it was
Bosh that stepped up.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And came up big for the heat.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So to me, last night, I thought it was I
thought it was interesting that Rudy Gobert went ham the
way that he did, and I wonder if that will
we'll have him as a threat moving forward. You gotta
pay attention to him more so now than ever, after
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the type of performance he had last evening. I tend
to think that the way they were defensing the Timberwolves.
It was more perimeter driven, and it was probably more
man to man driven matching up wise, And so I
wonder was it coaching, you know, was it the scheme
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that allowed for Rudy Gobert to have the type of
game that he had, because there were a lot of
it was a lot of garbage plays that took place.
Un Listen, I know the basketball purests out there will say, no, no, no,
it was the players. It was the players, And some
of it was the players, some of it it was
just Rudy Gobert was able to just get a hold
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of the ball, keep the ball alive and get garbage points.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I just wonder was that part of the scheme.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Oh a lot of times there was no one there
when Rudy Gobert was going to the hole to make
the plays that he made, more so than the rebounds,
but to get twenty twenty in a close out game.
They clearly wanted to stop stop Anthony Edwards right like.
That was clearly the idea of it is play them
on the perimeters, and that gave him, that gave you know,
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Gobert opportunity to get to the rim.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But it also gave.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It also gave Julius Randall an opportunity to isolate, you know,
isolate guys at times and be able to slash at
times into the paint and be able to create his
own shots.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So, yeah, Jonas I.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Thought it was I thought it was a c I
actually thought it was a pretty competitive game. I wasn't
sure who was gonna win. At one point, I just
felt like it was it was going to have to be.
It was going to have to be you know, Lebron obviously,
but definitely Luca and Luca's defense is just what people
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thought it was, is what it is. They showed the
Lakers GM at one point he had the same face
as the Laker or as the Euston Rockets GM or
not using rocket scuse the Dallas Maverick GM, the Nico Fella.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, Nico Harrison.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Look, we can say whatever we wanted, Like JJ Reddick
got out coached. I mean, it does appear that that's
what happened here because there was the speculation about what
was the plan going into the fourth quarter? Why'd you
play everybody that many minutes? And he got a little
bit of a red ass and got tested. They were
tired yesterday. They were tired, and they looked tired at
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the end of that game at the last night as
well too, And so Rudy Gobert once he found out that,
it was, Oh, you guys are just going to play
small and you're not going to play Jackson Hayes, and
this is just going to be what it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Okay, I'll just go.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Twenty and twenty and be the best player on the
floor all night. And it was and like you like,
look at the final numbers, like I said, like Minnesota
didn't shoot one. They were seven of forty seven from three. Yes,
it's like this looking like there was like there were
opportunities if the Lakers were the better team or even
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if they were close to being as good as Minnesota,
they're winning that game going away. There was every opportunity
on the table for the Lakers to win that game.
They they aren't as good as the Timberwolves, and it's
not close, Like it isn't close. And that was like, really,
I looked at it last night and said, this is
this is pretty obvious, and it seemed pretty obvious from
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the jump. Anthony Edwards spoke after the game and Aunt
talked about not only the win taking the series in five,
but also what was the turning point this season for
the Wolves?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
You wanted everybody to be talking about the Lakers. You
saw everybody picking the Lakers. How does it feel now
to emerge from this series victorious the way that you
guys had, the way he did, and to prove those
kind of people wrong.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
You know what makes it feel even better is that
they said Lakers in five and the Wolves won in five.
So I think that makes it feel ten times better.
That's like Marmias, I think the turning point for us
was the game when Julius came back in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I think that changed everything.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
We knew we needed them, we was missing them and
were just missing that that piece. Did that take them
back that game too or the same time. Yeah, So
when they came back it kind of changed everything. Like
our whole demeanor change because we had like a we
had like a team meeting with FINCHI and the coaches,
and like they got on us and they feel like
everybody responded the right way. Like everybody went and looked
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in the mirror and said, you know, it's a lot
of things that I can do better for myself to
help the team instead of trying to blame somebody. So
we did that and everybody became like a grown man
in a sense.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So there's your your guy, Anthony Edwards talking about listen
to accountability. We got to get better. Stop pointing fingers,
turning point. Dante comes back, Julius comes back, and they're
off and running and they will be in the Western
Conference finals. They get the winner of Houston Golden State,
Minnesota will be in the finals for the Western Conference.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Uh, I think that. I guess we'll get to the
Houston Golden State one and and maybe at some point
I don't know, uh, but you know, they could be dangerous,
they could be or they could be fools gold as well.
I really like the Timberwolves. What I didn't really like
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last night is that they were able to slow down
Anthony Edwards. I didn't. I didn't really like that a lot.
He got a double double and he almost he was
too to assist away from a triple double. Actually, but
it wasn't It wasn't an impressed showing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
It wasn't like this.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Is a close out game and Anthony Edwards was doing
the deed. But again, you know, you have a guy
and Julius Randall, who people may underestimate in quite a
you know, come some ways, but can really play the game.
I mean really, I think that if they do make
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it to the Western Finals, if they are competitive, if
this is their year and they're not fools goal, it
will most likely be the contributions of Julius Randall more
so than Rudy Gobert or any other player.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
On the team.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Michael Conley, he showed up when he needed to, as
you mentioned with that timely three. He's going to have
to be who he is and not disappear when they
get to the bigger games as well. It's not going
to be easy. This next round for them will not
be easy. Whichever team it is. If it's Golden State,
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Golden State will have had the opportunity, possibly foreseeably for.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
To get healthier.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I mean in a way where Butler more specifically may
have had more time for his pelvic contusion to have,
you know, gotten better. And I think that's the difference
right now in this series. And I know, you know,
people will say you're you're so caught up and you're
so focused in on him, but it's because I believe
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a healthy Butler on this team gives them that added
push that they need because right now they only have
a big one without Jimmy Butler being fully you know,
fully himself and you can tell he's out there not
moving at his full potential. I think if they're able
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to get through, make it through this series against Houston,
I think there they could be dangerous moving forward. But
I also believe that Houston is now starting to kind
of apply themselves and assert themselves in a way where,
you know, you start to understand why they're so highly rated.
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You're you start to realize why they had the type
of season that they had, and if their guys can
continue to play, you know, the way that they need
to play, you know that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I don't know. I think it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
A super super hard road to hoe if you're if
you're the Grizzlies. Uh yeah, if you're the Grizzlies, So
Minnesota Timberwolves, my bad Timberwolves. I mean, you think about it. Thompson.
Thompson is a beast. Brooks is an agitator that that
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can score. So that'll be interesting because they're gonna have
to match that energy. Vliet is balling like he is
bawling out of control right now, and they're just they're
just so there's so many weapons on on that team,
Jalen Green. You know, there's so many weapons that they have.
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They can get you in so many different ways. Jonas. So,
I think coming out of that series, I think those
are the two more dangerous teams. I think they probably
match up way better against the Golden State Warriors then
they do the Houston Rockets. But I think it'll be
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a very very that is going to be a very
very good series. It'll be a very competitive series. Whoever
the Timberwolves end up playing against.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean, I listen.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm just trying to help people out here, Like if
they want to know what the future is going to
look like, I got it for you. It's gonna be Minnesota,
and it's going to be Okay, see in the final
for the Western Conference. Okay, spoke, it do look good.
That's where they're favored on DraftKings to win the NBA title.
So that'll be that for the the LA Lakers. The
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Minnesota Timberwolves are off and running, and our fans listening
on the Yalla Horn of the Twin Cities Kfan congratulations.
You have humbled a lot of people out here in
Los Angeles, a lot of people out here that we're
talking about NBA Championship Lakers are back. Blah blah blah
blah blah. They were humbled, humbled in five games by
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the Minnesota Timberwolve.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
We are now five days, I believe five days since
Shador Sanders was drafted by the Cleveland Browns, and we
have a couple of our dudes.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
This is your new deal, this is like your ay,
this is your new Aaron Rodgers. Listen man, and he's
been replaced by Shador.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Listen man. These stories I've talked.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
About a rod since Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
These stories continue to come out. It's you got to
play the hits, and there just continues to be tales
and branches to the Shadoor Sanders conversation in the draft
and the very latest. First off, congratulations to Shador. He
does have the top selling rookie Jersey. Now we mentioned
he was third on the list behind Travis Hunter, and
(15:29):
I believe cam Ward Shadoor Sanders is now number one
top rookie Jersey sales, So.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I wonder why that is. I have I have thoughts,
but hey, let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
There's also this Jeff Ulbrick, the defensive coordinator from the
Atlanta Falcons, whose son was the one who prank called Shador, which,
by the way, Drew Rosenhaus did confirmed. Adam Schefter Abdul
Carter got prank called as well too, but they knew
it was BS because he was just to go in
the top three anyway, so it did matter like whatever.
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But this was Jeff Oulbrick, the Falcons defensive coordinator. Addressing
the situation yesterday.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
First of all, I like to publicly apologize to Shader
and the Sanders family for what occurred. Second of all,
I want to publicly apologize to mister Blank, Terry Foutino,
Reean Morris, and the entire Falcons organization. My actions, my
actions of not protecting confidential data were inexcusable. My son's
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actions were absolutely inexcusable, and for that we are both
deeply sorry. The NFL has taken action and I fully
respect the punishment. We take full responsibility my son and myself,
and we will not be appealing the fine in any way.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So that was Jeff Olbrick, the dad of Jacks Olbrick,
who was the one who prank called Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
What kind of kit do you have? Man?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Kind of kid?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah? What kind of kid? Like you know?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Who? What type of what type of person are you
raising in that crib? Man?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You didn't pull any pranks when you're a kid. I
did some awfuls I did.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I've done some pretty immature things. How old is this dude?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Twenty one?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Okay, I've done some pretty uh, pretty petty things in
my day that would bring reproach on my family name
when I was in like middle school, even maybe had
a moment or two in high school. At twenty one,
you you're no longer able to be looked at as
a kid or as a child. That's you're you're making
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an adult decision. For one, that's more than old enough
to say that you are making adult decisions for one.
For two, how how entitled and how much of a
snotty nosed little bitch brat are you to be sitting
there at twenty one years old crank calling people on
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on draft Day and even if you were, even if
you were being on that time, because social media has
made it okay to be more a moron in public,
and you get praised and you get followers, and you
get influenced by being.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
A moron and doing things that morons would do.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So I'm not even gonna go too far down the
lane of saying that you know, this kid is is
bitch made because of doing doing things that would make
him go viral. The reason why I think he's bitch
made is because you endangered your your father's and and
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your family's ability to be able to make a living.
That you put that like you you say, uh yeah,
that's a lot of money. Uh but you say, you say,
you know, it's it's you know, it's it's kind of
it's inexcusable to do it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
What if they had let him go.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
What if they said, because because you did this and
you allowed sensitive information to get released to get out
of our building.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We gotta let you go. What if they let him go?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
What if for some strange reason, Ulbrick isn't able to
catch on again with another team because you don't protect
your information.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, people could get fired for less. Think about it.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
This is the type of stuff that sunk what's his name,
what's the coach's name?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Gruden? Like, it's no different if you.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Really think about what could happen, right, there's no difference.
This was released and obviously, uh a court or you know,
a gathering of information, you released the emails. But what
I'm saying is is if that young man could get
a hold of sensitive information to.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Call prospects on draft day, that.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Is only in information that the organization's had, then what
else does he have access to?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Is what I'm saying. What else does he have access to?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Because apparently there was his dad left the iPad unlocked
that had all the information that was sent over by
the NFL. The NFL sends over contact numbers for forty
or so prospects before the draft, just to everybody. And
now because of that, it cost his dad one hundred
thousand dollars. And I was actually thinking this as well too.
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I feel bad for Jeff Olbrick from this standpoint. This
is a guy who just went through a clown show
in New York. And it's got you know, he's got
his fingerprints on it. Not that he was at fault,
but that's sort of what he's known as. And even
Jeff olbrig it's like, oh, he was the interim coach
who took over for the disaster that was the Jets
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and Rogers and.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Him as a linebacker, that's how And I know him
as a Hawaii ringhame. As a line I know he
is a Hawaii Hawaii rainbow warrior.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But he gets to Atlanta, He's probably thinking to himself,
all right, man, let me just type action, like let
me just let me just go coach the defense and
let's just get back to football. I don't want to
deal with any of this crap. I just went through
it for for an entire season with the Jets, and
who knows how much longer it lasted, and then this happens,
like we're not even at the season, the preseason training camp.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And he's got to deal with all this blowback.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So I actually I feel bad for Jeff Ulbrick from
that standpoint.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't you, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Eight Sometimes, look, kids, do you have two different he's
not a kid.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, but here's let me not a kid.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Let me just let me just speak as somebody who
pulled pranks when they were younger. And I talked about
this one on the earlier this week. My buddy and
I got ripped one night and started prank. We were
probably I think we were like twenty one, maybe twenty two,
and we started prank calling QBC. He had one phone
and I had the other so that we could get
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so that we could get the prices to jump up
on the screen. And then they caught onto us and
they told us to go f ourselves. All right, so
let me throw another one at you. You tell me
how bitch made this?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Is all right?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I mean you are you already?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I thank you so good?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, but tell me tell me where I'm at on
the bitch made scale when it comes to this prank.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
We waited, my buddies and I waited.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We played at Thousand Oaks High School.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't even need to hear.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, hey, don't be throwing up. Don't roll in sixties.
You threw up the roll, they'll be throwing up no
roll in sixties.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Brother coo. Well good, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Good, So we uh we played.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So we played at Thousand Oaks High School, So that
was our Our high school football team was Thousand Oaks
High Our our trival was Westlake, all right, so Westlake
hoive's our trival in Ventura County. And we waited for
people to leave a movie theater. We were on top
of a parking structure. We all had water blow. We
waited for people to leave a late showing in a
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movie theater and we annihilated them from the top deck
with water balloons. And to make it worse, we shouted
out Westlake football as we did it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
How bitch made is that?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I mean, that's fun, That's that's high school stuff. I
remember I told you the story about when we went
to the I was in middle school maybe middle school,
and we went to an orchestra at the what was
it the Benaedum Center, I want to say the Ben
Benedum Center downtown. Anyway, I had a stink ball and
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there was all kinds of different school and we were sitting.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now it wasn't that like the plastic capsule you throw
on that and it breaks, right.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Those things are so bad.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's the worst smell.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Ever brought and if you step on it, it's on
your shoe for the next hour.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So we're sitting up in the balcony. We're sitting in
the balcony and I don't know what school it was.
I want to say it was like Alleghany or somebody.
It's a school we didn't like. And we was like, bro,
you got that stink bomb. I was like, yeah, I
got it. He was like, bro, let's let's roll it over.
Let's roll it over the leg because we can see
over the edge, so nobody would see it hit. The
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only thing we were risking was if it hit somebody
on the head or something like that, then we were caught,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But it didn't. It hit like it hit like right
in the uh.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We was aiming for the walkway and that joint hitting
the walkway and we saw it break. We was like, oh,
So we had to try to work to control ourselves
because we ain't want to be given away. But the
orchestra is going it's playing Da Da dah, and you
start seeing all these kids.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just going nuts.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And then the smell came up into the to the balcony.
So the the they're performing and you just see a
commotion going on below us and above us.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
We in middle school, So.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You're talking like twelve thirteen year olds, right, everybody's like, Oh,
I'm like, like, while the orchestra's playing, they're so rank.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Man, it's smell like raw eggs.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It really does.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's like nasty raw eggs.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Anyway, the point of the matter is, I mean, I mean,
you're in high school and you did high school things.
Now the twenty one year old deal, you're immature. You're
you're immature and you're not fully developed. You're not ready
for the real world, as I would say, And why
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that is, I don't know. That would be my criticism
of y'all calling QVC kind of funny. Y'all might be,
you know, in a different place in your life, smoking
a cigarette here or looking across the room he's ripping
a bong or whatever. Man, I don't know, but it's
kind of it's it's just immature. I wouldn't say, like
it's like egregious. It's just you're being immature. And that
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happens at twenty twenty One's no different here. The only
difference here is that you grab sensitive information from your
dad's from his iPad, which is work related. That's where
bitch may comes in because you have you have now
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put your your dad like and don't don't be like,
be clear here, he is now super expendable, super expendable.
Anything that he does can and will be held against him.
He can mess around and lose his job midweight through
the season, after the season, be like, we're letting you go,
and and and part of the reason is in his
(26:43):
file is that he.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Really he was He was got for sensitive.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Information two words with cause, with cause, which screws him.
If he's looking with cause, it's there, it's now there.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So to me, for his son.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Not to have that type of awareness that you're compromising
your dad, I would assume he's still married. I don't
know what you know, what they got going on, but
I would assume he's still married. So you've compromised your
family by doing what you did.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Is a prank? Is a prank?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Call worth you compromising your family? And the sad thing
about it, the saddest thing about the whole thing is
the kid only repented when he got caught. So how
many times has he done something that could have led
to the demise of him his dad, his family that
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he didn't have to apologize for because that's something like
that's something he was so comfortable and confident doing it.
You could tell like this is just something like he's
like a little degenerate kid. And sorry if Jeff, if
you hear this and somebody plays it for you, sorry,
I'm a girl man, just like you are. I put
my pen so on one leg out of time, just
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like you do. I gotta raise my kids the same
way you gotta get up and you gotta raise your kids.
And that's something that must that would be something that
just is not even a part of our family fabric.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
We're not even.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Who's wasting time doing dumbs like that. And if my
kids ever felt the urge or the need to to
satisfy an itch of degeneratism by by compromising my wife
or myself with sensitive information that we would have, that's
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that's it's just not even that's not even an option Jonas,
it's not even an option, my son, And no, I
mean it is what it is like that's your household.
I'll tell you what. Twenty one years old, twenty one
years old, you do some stuff like that in the
Arrington house, you know what that gets you, jonas a
one way ticket. You're twenty one. You've you've sacrificed me
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being your parent. You sacrifice me being your parent. I
no longer can have you in my home, so you
gotta go. I don't have trust for you, so you
can't be around me or my things. So you gotta
go at twenty one.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Have a good life.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I love you. I'm still your dad, but you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So there's a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
A solution to this is pretty easy, Like just give
these kids burner phones that only team executives have, not
their personal contact information, and you pick up that phone
and you can dial straight to them. Use like a
bullpen phone where you pick up the phone it rings
to the bullpen in Major League Baseball, Like use one
of those. Like that feels like a solution.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
The bottom line is is still if the kid is
that type of kid and he gains access to the.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Phone, he might use the phone.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I mean, that's not a solution to a kid that
is a degenerate, Like, it's not a solution.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I also think we're speaking as older people. When you're
one man, you're not thinking like like I wasn't thinking. Look,
I'm just telling you when I wasn't thinking about the repercussions.
And then I remember driving about two three years ago,
and I was going down this dark road to get
to my house, and some kids popped up from behind
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a sign and annihilated my windshield with like four or
five eggs. And I was so pissed, and I thought
to myself, you know what I was owed that? I
was owed that for water bombing the people leaving the
movie theater, the flaming bag of dog crap on the doorstep,
the one where you put the trash can you tilted
against the front door, and you fill it up with
(30:33):
water from the hose out front, and then you ding
dong ditch them and when they opened the front door,
the water pours into the front house. I was owed
all that stuff, all that stuff that happened to me
based on pranks.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That I pulled when I was a kid. So, okay,
you know, lesson learned.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
If some way, somehow what you did landed you in
the court of law. You know what that judge was
saying to you.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What would he say, is that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
She broke the law shoo program.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You broke the law. You don't.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You don't get to say, oh I didn't know, like
oh well, oh well, there's going to be a consequence,
And there was a consequence, and there was a repercussion
for his child's actions. But ultimately speaking, that's a consequence
and a repercussion for you, for you and not protecting
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the sensitive information that that was released or was used
in this scenario, it's a super make like Jonas, I
know you're you're like minimizing it to Jesse being like
him being young. That is a serious, serious, serious thing
what he did. Yeah, I agree, but I also very
serious in nature thing of what that young man.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But I also think that any prank that I pulled
when I was a kid, that wasn't a reflection of
my parents. My parents are great people. That was just
me being an a hole at the time, like and I.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And that's the point, the point.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
But what you don't and then we could get into
the semantics or the details of that, it is a
reflection of your parents, that is the point. That's exactly
the point. What you do is a reflection of how
you were raised or not raised. It's a direct correlation.
So those are the things that you have to think
about before you do, dumb ass. That's the point of
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being raised. It's like, oh, I became a killer, this, that,
and the other. Well, my parents were never a killer.
Dah da dad, this, that and the other. That should
not reflect on your parents, but it does.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, you leave Ted Bundy out of this. Okay, no,
he didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Well, hey, it is what it is, man, it is
what it is. I mean that it's when you chose
to have that child, that you chose to have a
responsibility over how that child is reared and how they're raised,
and you have to own there's ownership over just like
if a kid goes, you know, and becomes an amazing
(32:56):
doctor or or they have a great career of doing
something in the professional world, it's because of the foundational
components that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Were put in the place when they were growing up.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Doesn't mean that the kid doesn't make mistakes or do
crazy things or anything like that along the way, because
that's a part of growing up. But what I'm saying
is this dude is twenty one years old. Twenty one
you know what he should be doing looking for a job.
He should be handling his business in the workforce, or
(33:28):
in school doing what he's doing in school, and he
should be so busy with finals because it is finals
time in school. He should be so busy with the
things that he's going to be good in life that
the times of doing something like this would not be
that would not be on his list of things to do.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I just think people, I think that's just how I see,
and people need to be more accountable. Like for me,
for example, if my son does something wrong, I blame
my wife. Like that's because you gotta be still a parent.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Actions, yeah, well it's still a parent that count.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I blame a lot of things, all my kids, all
my wife. Anything bad they do, I say that's her.
Anything great they do, I say it's me. That's just natural.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Dutch apple Pie, Dutch apple Pie Baby.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right now, though, we turn it over to our guy,
a Thursday tradition here on the show. He is Albert Breer,
Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You see him on Amazon Primes Thursday night football coverage
during the season, and again our Thursday tradition here on
the show, it'd be good morning, how you.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Doing, Hello, Ab goodring guys, how we doing?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Good?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good morning outside of and I'm sure we'll have a
conversation or two about Shador Sanders. What was the from
people you've talked to in around the league or for you yourself,
what was the biggest surprise of the nf I'll draft
this past week.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
You know, I think like it was you know, what
was interesting about it was kind of like the way
that like the I'd say, from kick five to pick twenty,
like everything was on the table. And I think that
was illustrated by the fact that like Tyler Warren and
Jalen Walker, who were seen as not top ten walks,
(35:27):
but like guys who had a really good chance to
go inside the top ten when fourteen and fifteen, you know,
so like seeing some of those things materialized. I think
in some cases, seeing like a Mike Green, who at
one point was seen as maybe a mid first round pick,
you know, because he had the incident in his past
(35:48):
teams like sort of playing a sace this year, I
think he saw a little bit more of that. I mean,
maybe Dylan Gabriel going in the third round, I think
surprise some people, But I don't know there are Anny,
I see. That's the thing is, like, this is one
of those drafts where after you got past those first
few guys, like it felt like anything was on the table.
(36:11):
And so I think like for a lot of the players,
there were just these big, wide ranges of outcomes, you know,
where a guy could go five, a guy could go fifteen,
the guy could go twenty five. And I think he
saw that in a way that it played out on
Thursday and Friday night.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You mentioned the Dylan Gabriel selection.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
They took two obviously later in the draft. How do
you see that, Like, what's the thought process on that?
Because again obviously that everybody has been talking about in
terms of details, if you take a quarterback that late,
you're generally taking them to be a backup, not necessarily
a starter.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So I would have to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Assume one of those guys may or may not even
be on that roster come regular season.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
Yeah, it's a weird situation, Lamar, because I mean, and
and this is just from a Russ standpoint, I think
it's gonna be challenging for the coaches in the spring
because you don't get that many. And so like you've
got Joe Flacco and uh, you know, and and and
Kenny have almost and who have almost identical guarantees of
the contract. So the cost of walking away from either
(37:23):
of them is like equal.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And then you have the two rookies there, Deshaun Watson
obvious isn't healthy and ready to go right now. But
you know, how do you how do you break that down?
Do you do you stay to Joe Blaco? Okay, like
you know, like we're gonna we're gonna give some of
those reps to the younger guys. If you're Joe, do
you feel comfortable with that? Given the Yeah, you were
(37:47):
there a couple of years ago. But there's a new
offensive coordinator, there are new teammates that you have to learn,
and like, how is that gonna, you know, affect your
ability to compete to be the starter. It's just it's
complicated in a billion different ways, you know, and you
know how much of an opportunity because of that that
rep situation Join Gabriel the door standards is gonna have
(38:09):
to move himsell. I think what Kevin's gonna have to
do is poplic create some sort of meritocracy where it
just becomes all right, like you know, like well, we're
gonna we're gonna start everybody on a level playing field
from a repta. What doesn't mean that everybody gets to
work the same amount with the first seed, but we're
(38:29):
gonna try to, you know, divvy up the rep stevenly
and then just go forward and let people arm them
as they as they go.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He's Alber Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Breer Abe. I wanted
to ask you about the Vikings and JJ McCarthy. This
is this is a team who was a playoff team
at a great year last year. We know things ended
the final two games of the season, but nonetheless, if
JJ McCarthy is their guy, it would stand a reason
(38:57):
that they would maybe take a step back. And I
just wonder are they willing to go through those growing
pains and understand it could be a subpar year in
comparison to last year, or is he going to have
a shorter leash because they don't want to miss out
on this window that they have.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
You know, I think that was I think all along
that's dependent on what else they have on their officer.
And now they've traded for Sam Howell, I think he
has maybe a little bit of a longer leash. And
look like I would say this, like, you know, for
as tumultuous as the fall was for him, he's been
(39:37):
in the building every day since the season season ended.
He's put the way back on, you know, so he's
doing a lot of the right things.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Now.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
He wasn't meeting with the team last year when he could,
and he had a meeting once a week with Kevin O'Connell.
So I mean, here's the thing is, Like, you're right, Jarns,
it's not a rebuildings that you This isn't retooling. This
isn't a team that can throw like a month and
(40:05):
a half the season overboard the name of quarterback development.
And I agree with all of that, Like I think,
like Kevin, this is where this is where Kevin has
tried to like sort of balance that like balance the
quarterback back developed the piece with like hey, like I've
got guys in this locker, I'm like Justin Jefferson and
Kristen Darius not coming back off the ACL and Brian
(40:25):
O'Neill and Jonathan Bernard and Andrew Van Ginkole and all
these different guys Firon Murphy that are here to win
right now. It's just one fourteen games and deserve the
chance for us to give them every single piece that
we can to win right now. And so I think
Jay Game has got more least to sim Hallison back up.
(40:47):
But I mean, if he stumbles in the in the spring,
it doesn't look good. I wouldn't like rule out them
doing something else to get themselves more insurance the position
the plan for right now with jjt JJ looked great
the spray, but I mean this is a team that's
not this is in the middle of attack team. I
(41:08):
put this fine with you know, just sacrificing a seasons
and nave quarterback development. We've seen that and what they
offered Daniel Jones and how they stepped around Frank just
back and obviously how they see the Aaron Rodgers thing.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Ab Now that the draft has taking place, I think
one of the interesting storylines that maybe got Berry was
Kirk Cousins is still a part of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Aaron Rodgers. Now that the draft is over. Listen.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I was with Joe Douglas and with Jay Glazer, not
the name drop, but was with them during the draft show.
And the relevance of saying that is is that what
I heard from them was that one, it was not
Aaron Rodgers problem with the players in the locker room.
It wasn't even really an Aaron Rodgers problem altogether too,
(41:59):
And he really is dealing with some personal issues that
he needs to to deal with, whether you know, family,
whether him. I did not ask what those details were.
But now that the draft is over, Uh, do we
continue to wait on him as he uh you know,
works through what he's working through, or do we see
something that takes place sooner than later? And and what
(42:21):
is what's the kirk Cousins update as well?
Speaker 9 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean I put a little more thoughts this Lavron, Aaron,
and I just the more I think about it, the
more it makes sense that they're handling the Steelers are
handling it this way. And they really operated as a
draft like with no team right like, so they played
they picked three guys who's played a lot of football
in the first four round is who I think will
(42:45):
be ready to contribute right away. And Derek Harmon first round,
Cale Johnson in the third round, the Jack Swuear the
fourth round, and then they spent their second round kick
to go get a veteran in DK that cast. So
they're operating like a team that's going a now spot.
They've got a win now type of bross or with
AJ players like TJ Watt and make them this patic there.
(43:07):
And I mean like, look like, here's the thing is
if they signed Aaron Rodgers just say two weeks ago, right,
and Aaron was still dealing with his personal stuff, well,
then what happens now? What happens when we get to OTAs,
Like the whole question that's going to be, when's Aaron coming?
Why is the Aaron here? Why is this done? Why
is he here? Blah blah blah blah blah. You know,
(43:29):
so by not doing the deal now, they're saving themselves
all of that, like they don't like the Steelers are
respecting a space. The Steelers don't have to deal with
that narrative when they show up for the off season
program like this week with the rookies coming in, when
they're OTAs again later in the month, and Aaron doesn't
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have to deal with it either, you know, so this
actually logically made some sense. Now as for Kirk Cousins
is now both passed two checks. Right this whole thing
there was a the guarantee for next year pasting in March,
and then there's the draft and so now like he
knows to a quarterback, death charts are o their places,
and it's I sort of wonder. Now it's like, Okay,
(44:15):
did you overplay your hands? Did the Falcons over play
their hands? I mean, I just it's if it's not
the Steelers, like and I the Steelers would be a
possibility if the Errand thinks for some reason doesn't work out, right,
where does he go? I just that's the thing, Like
I don't know, Like I think Minnesota was on the table,
but Minnesota would have required Atlanta eating a lot of
(44:37):
the money, and I don't think that they were going
to do that for a variety of reasons, like a
ton of the money. And so if Minnesota's not there,
if Pittsburgh's not there, if Cleveland's not, I mean, what
do you do? I mean Cleveland? I mean, if if
Cleveland went and got him, now, like they have six
quarterbacks that you know, So I just don't know where
(44:59):
the landing spot is. It's just it feels to me
like more and more likely now that her cousins is
almost gonna have to wait for an injury. And it's
you and I both know those injuries don't always happen.
That's not every thing that there's a catastrophic injury somewhere.
That course is somebody trade for a.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Quarter amaut Albert Breer, Thanks so much for your time, man.
I know we got to let you go because you
got to get to I believe you're having brunch with
Bill and Jordan. You're going to go over some Yeah,
that's side because I know you're close to the situation there,
So I just wanted to make sure we didn't take
too much of your time from if you like.
Speaker 9 (45:37):
Hacking to my phone or something that my calendar right now.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Avy of all the of all the awkward interviews that
he's ever done with the media, that one takes a cake.
Speaker 10 (45:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (45:50):
I met some awkward interactions with him. But you know
what's the funny part about that is, though, like can
you think of like we've all seen people like promotional
tours like the media bledds for for a book before, right, Yeah,
I was thinking about this earlier this morning. Can you
guys remember one memorable thing anybody ever said in one
(46:11):
of those.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
Not really No, so they legitimately turned nothing into this,
but it's only the Today Show. Yeah, I mean like
we literally we literally turned a big bag like those
are a big bag of nothing.
Speaker 9 (46:28):
He turned a big bag nothing in this.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (46:35):
Yeah, it's uh with with some assistance, by the way,
a little bit of assist yeah, but in context.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
But in context, I don't know that that his you
know his I said watch dog Jonas made a thing
of it. I think that's what she does. I think she.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Watched dogs him and he enjoys it.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
I mean, they clearly broke broke the rules on what
they wanted parameters wise for the interview ab and she bid.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Be hold on a second though, a far I don't.
I don't believe that CBS News, there's a very serious outlet,
would agree to that interview with parameters on it. I
just don't buy that.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
There's no way with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
Like CBS CBS News, No, because this is really a
book promotional thing. I mean, we're not talking about CBS
Sports here, We're talking about CBS News, right, right. Yeah,
I mean, like this is a this is an outlet
that deals with like wars on countries and dictators and like,
I mean, do you think they're going to be intimidated
or pushed around by a guy with a visor and
(47:45):
what's all? Probably not right?
Speaker 4 (47:48):
So yeah, I don't think it's intimidation.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
I think it's more so if I'm going to do
this on my book tour of interviews, that these are
the parameters in which I will come on and do it.
I do believe that that's feasible that Bill Belichick of
his you know, of his influence, could actually say that's
what I want going into this.
Speaker 9 (48:07):
Interview the same time at the same time, though, do
we know do we know that that like maybe and
maybe this is where having a good having a publicist
would have helped him. Do we know that that was
actually communicated to CBS?
Speaker 5 (48:22):
Right, they're trying to say from Bill Belichick's side, he's
trying to say.
Speaker 9 (48:26):
That a lot of either you know, I don't know.
I mean, I just have a hard time believing like
CBS would be I mean, like the way these things
work generally is like a book interview, like one of
these interviews promotional interviews. It's like, okay, like, don't give
me time to promote my book, and I'll answer questions
(48:46):
that maybe you wouldn't answer otherwise.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 9 (48:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (48:57):
I don't know. But again they again, they turned a
big bag of nothing in to it's really something something, It's.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Really I mean, at least he dressed up for the occasion.
I just thought that was important.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
You know.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
I mean, I don't know. I'm a little out of touch.
That might be high fashion.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Holes in your clothes high fashion these days is very true.
I just said, you have another shirt on underneath the
shirt that you have holes in it. Sometimes it's just
me a b We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
We'll do it again next week. There he is Albert Breer,
Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the m m QB.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Get him on ex at Albert Brier
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, hell yeah, two pros and a cup of Joe.
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, Brady Quinn still waiting.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The results of his latest listen. I'm not going to
speculate on what exactly gas he's on. It could be
just your run of the middle hgh, but I don't
want to get into those details. Nonetheless, still violating a
protocol we have here on the show, so you will
not be with us today, but we are expecting him
back here tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
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Feel good, man.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I thought p eds were supposed to make you you
feel better, not not worse?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
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Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean, how many times do you get suspended for
peds before you get banned from competition.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
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Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm asking for a friend, and that's all I was asking.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Some people ever have it? I mean, I let'll tell you.
I mean, right, but I do.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Uh, I do want to just address you know, obviously
the big story in the world, story on the top here.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Let's check in live on the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Smells some die so.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, Johnny, that's that's a bit. So that'll be
that for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And I don't know what your read on the game was,
but something became very obvious to me in watching that
game last night from the get go was that Minnesota
was significantly better and the idea that the Lakers were
favored to win the series going into the season was laughable.
Minnesota wasn't good last night. Anthony Edwards wasn't even good.
(02:28):
They couldn't hit a shot. They were like six of
forty from three. At one point in the fourth quarter,
they had missed ten straight until Conley hit one from
the corner. Outside of Rudy Gobert and Julius Randall, Minnesota
didn't even play that well and The Lakers weren't close.
It wasn't like they can say, well, we took a
(02:48):
lead here momentarily. Man, they were never in that game
and they came out flat from the jump. The Timberwolves
were by far and away the better team and deserve
to win it in five.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Oh Man, that's strong. That's a strong opinion. I wouldn't
say they weren't very good. I think they played well.
And I think that the one thing you have to
have in the NBA is complimentary basketball. That's why everybody
talks about having more than one superstar on a team.
You know, we saw so many times during Lebron's run
(03:24):
of dominance where.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There was a need for one or the other two to.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Step up, whether it was Weide or whether it was
Bosh that stepped up.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And came up big for the heat.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So to me, last night, I thought it was I
thought it was interesting that Rudy Gobert went ham the
way that he did, and I wonder if that will
we'll have him as a threat moving forward. You gotta
pay attention to him more so now than ever, after
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the type of performance he had last evening. I tend
to think that the way they were defensing the Timberwolves.
It was more perimeter driven, and it was probably more
man to man driven matching up wise, And so I
wonder was it coaching, you know, was it the scheme
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that allowed for Rudy Gobert to have the type of
game that he had, because there were a lot of
it was a lot of garbage plays that took place.
Un Listen, I know the basketball purests out there will say, no, no, no,
it was the players. It was the players, And some
of it was the players, some of it it was
just Rudy Gobert was able to just get a hold
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of the ball, keep the ball alive and get garbage points.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I just wonder was that part of the scheme.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Oh a lot of times there was no one there
when Rudy Gobert was going to the hole to make
the plays that he made, more so than the rebounds,
but to get twenty twenty in a close out game.
They clearly wanted to stop stop Anthony Edwards right like.
That was clearly the idea of it is play them
on the perimeters, and that gave him, that gave you know,
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Gobert opportunity to get to the rim.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But it also gave.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It also gave Julius Randall an opportunity to isolate, you know,
isolate guys at times and be able to slash at
times into the paint and be able to create his
own shots.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So, yeah, Jonas I.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Thought it was I thought it was a c I
actually thought it was a pretty competitive game. I wasn't
sure who was gonna win. At one point, I just
felt like it was it was going to have to be.
It was going to have to be you know, Lebron obviously,
but definitely Luca and Luca's defense is just what people
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thought it was, is what it is. They showed the
Lakers GM at one point he had the same face
as the Laker or as the Euston Rockets GM or
not using rocket scuse the Dallas Maverick GM, the Nico Fella.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, Nico Harrison.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Look, we can say whatever we wanted, Like JJ Reddick
got out coached. I mean, it does appear that that's
what happened here because there was the speculation about what
was the plan going into the fourth quarter? Why'd you
play everybody that many minutes? And he got a little
bit of a red ass and got tested. They were
tired yesterday. They were tired, and they looked tired at
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the end of that game at the last night as
well too, And so Rudy Gobert once he found out that,
it was, Oh, you guys are just going to play
small and you're not going to play Jackson Hayes, and
this is just going to be what it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Okay, I'll just go.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Twenty and twenty and be the best player on the
floor all night. And it was and like you like,
look at the final numbers, like I said, like Minnesota
didn't shoot one. They were seven of forty seven from three. Yes,
it's like this looking like there was like there were
opportunities if the Lakers were the better team or even
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if they were close to being as good as Minnesota,
they're winning that game going away. There was every opportunity
on the table for the Lakers to win that game.
They they aren't as good as the Timberwolves, and it's
not close, Like it isn't close. And that was like, really,
I looked at it last night and said, this is
this is pretty obvious, and it seemed pretty obvious from
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the jump. Anthony Edwards spoke after the game and Aunt
talked about not only the win taking the series in five,
but also what was the turning point this season for
the Wolves?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
You wanted everybody to be talking about the Lakers. You
saw everybody picking the Lakers. How does it feel now
to emerge from this series victorious the way that you
guys had, the way he did, and to prove those
kind of people wrong.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
You know what makes it feel even better is that
they said Lakers in five and the Wolves won in five.
So I think that makes it feel ten times better.
That's like Marmias, I think the turning point for us
was the game when Julius came back in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I think that changed everything.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
We knew we needed them, we was missing them and
were just missing that that piece. Did that take them
back that game too or the same time. Yeah, So
when they came back it kind of changed everything. Like
our whole demeanor change because we had like a we
had like a team meeting with FINCHI and the coaches,
and like they got on us and they feel like
everybody responded the right way. Like everybody went and looked
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in the mirror and said, you know, it's a lot
of things that I can do better for myself to
help the team instead of trying to blame somebody. So
we did that and everybody became like a grown man
in a sense.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So there's your your guy, Anthony Edwards talking about listen
to accountability. We got to get better. Stop pointing fingers,
turning point. Dante comes back, Julius comes back, and they're
off and running and they will be in the Western
Conference finals. They get the winner of Houston Golden State,
Minnesota will be in the finals for the Western Conference.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Uh, I think that. I guess we'll get to the
Houston Golden State one and and maybe at some point
I don't know, uh, but you know, they could be dangerous,
they could be or they could be fools gold as well.
I really like the Timberwolves. What I didn't really like
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last night is that they were able to slow down
Anthony Edwards. I didn't. I didn't really like that a lot.
He got a double double and he almost he was
too to assist away from a triple double. Actually, but
it wasn't It wasn't an impressed showing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
It wasn't like this.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Is a close out game and Anthony Edwards was doing
the deed. But again, you know, you have a guy
and Julius Randall, who people may underestimate in quite a
you know, come some ways, but can really play the game.
I mean really, I think that if they do make
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it to the Western Finals, if they are competitive, if
this is their year and they're not fools goal, it
will most likely be the contributions of Julius Randall more
so than Rudy Gobert or any other player.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
On the team.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Michael Conley, he showed up when he needed to, as
you mentioned with that timely three. He's going to have
to be who he is and not disappear when they
get to the bigger games as well. It's not going
to be easy. This next round for them will not
be easy. Whichever team it is. If it's Golden State,
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Golden State will have had the opportunity, possibly foreseeably for.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
To get healthier.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I mean in a way where Butler more specifically may
have had more time for his pelvic contusion to have,
you know, gotten better. And I think that's the difference
right now in this series. And I know, you know,
people will say you're you're so caught up and you're
so focused in on him, but it's because I believe
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a healthy Butler on this team gives them that added
push that they need because right now they only have
a big one without Jimmy Butler being fully you know,
fully himself and you can tell he's out there not
moving at his full potential. I think if they're able
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to get through, make it through this series against Houston,
I think there they could be dangerous moving forward. But
I also believe that Houston is now starting to kind
of apply themselves and assert themselves in a way where,
you know, you start to understand why they're so highly rated.
(12:17):
You're you start to realize why they had the type
of season that they had, and if their guys can
continue to play, you know, the way that they need
to play, you know that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I don't know. I think it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
A super super hard road to hoe if you're if
you're the Grizzlies. Uh yeah, if you're the Grizzlies, So
Minnesota Timberwolves, my bad Timberwolves. I mean, you think about it. Thompson.
Thompson is a beast. Brooks is an agitator that that
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can score. So that'll be interesting because they're gonna have
to match that energy. Vliet is balling like he is
bawling out of control right now, and they're just they're
just so there's so many weapons on on that team,
Jalen Green. You know, there's so many weapons that they have.
(13:16):
They can get you in so many different ways. Jonas. So,
I think coming out of that series, I think those
are the two more dangerous teams. I think they probably
match up way better against the Golden State Warriors then
they do the Houston Rockets. But I think it'll be
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a very very that is going to be a very
very good series. It'll be a very competitive series. Whoever
the Timberwolves end up playing against.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean, I listen.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm just trying to help people out here, Like if
they want to know what the future is going to
look like, I got it for you. It's gonna be Minnesota,
and it's going to be Okay, see in the final
for the Western Conference. Okay, spoke, it do look good.
That's where they're favored on DraftKings to win the NBA title.
So that'll be that for the the LA Lakers. The
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Minnesota Timberwolves are off and running, and our fans listening
on the Yalla Horn of the Twin Cities Kfan congratulations.
You have humbled a lot of people out here in
Los Angeles, a lot of people out here that we're
talking about NBA Championship Lakers are back. Blah blah blah
blah blah. They were humbled, humbled in five games by
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the Minnesota Timberwolve.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
We are now five days, I believe five days since
Shador Sanders was drafted by the Cleveland Browns, and we
have a couple of our dudes.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
This is your new deal, this is like your ay,
this is your new Aaron Rodgers. Listen man, and he's
been replaced by Shador.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Listen man. These stories I've talked.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
About a rod since Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
These stories continue to come out. It's you got to
play the hits, and there just continues to be tales
and branches to the Shadoor Sanders conversation in the draft
and the very latest. First off, congratulations to Shador. He
does have the top selling rookie Jersey. Now we mentioned
he was third on the list behind Travis Hunter, and
(15:29):
I believe cam Ward Shadoor Sanders is now number one
top rookie Jersey sales, So.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I wonder why that is. I have I have thoughts,
but hey, let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
There's also this Jeff Ulbrick, the defensive coordinator from the
Atlanta Falcons, whose son was the one who prank called Shador, which,
by the way, Drew Rosenhaus did confirmed. Adam Schefter Abdul
Carter got prank called as well too, but they knew
it was BS because he was just to go in
the top three anyway, so it did matter like whatever.
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But this was Jeff Oulbrick, the Falcons defensive coordinator. Addressing
the situation yesterday.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
First of all, I like to publicly apologize to Shader
and the Sanders family for what occurred. Second of all,
I want to publicly apologize to mister Blank, Terry Foutino,
Reean Morris, and the entire Falcons organization. My actions, my
actions of not protecting confidential data were inexcusable. My son's
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actions were absolutely inexcusable, and for that we are both
deeply sorry. The NFL has taken action and I fully
respect the punishment. We take full responsibility my son and myself,
and we will not be appealing the fine in any way.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So that was Jeff Olbrick, the dad of Jacks Olbrick,
who was the one who prank called Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
What kind of kit do you have? Man?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Kind of kid?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah? What kind of kid? Like you know?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Who? What type of what type of person are you
raising in that crib? Man?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You didn't pull any pranks when you're a kid. I
did some awfuls I did.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I've done some pretty immature things. How old is this dude?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Twenty one?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Okay, I've done some pretty uh, pretty petty things in
my day that would bring reproach on my family name
when I was in like middle school, even maybe had
a moment or two in high school. At twenty one,
you you're no longer able to be looked at as
a kid or as a child. That's you're you're making
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an adult decision. For one, that's more than old enough
to say that you are making adult decisions for one.
For two, how how entitled and how much of a
snotty nosed little bitch brat are you to be sitting
there at twenty one years old crank calling people on
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on draft Day and even if you were, even if
you were being on that time, because social media has
made it okay to be more a moron in public,
and you get praised and you get followers, and you
get influenced by being.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
A moron and doing things that morons would do.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So I'm not even gonna go too far down the
lane of saying that you know, this kid is is
bitch made because of doing doing things that would make
him go viral. The reason why I think he's bitch
made is because you endangered your your father's and and
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your family's ability to be able to make a living.
That you put that like you you say, uh yeah,
that's a lot of money. Uh but you say, you say,
you know, it's it's you know, it's it's kind of
it's inexcusable to do it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
What if they had let him go.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
What if they said, because because you did this and
you allowed sensitive information to get released to get out
of our building.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We gotta let you go. What if they let him go?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
What if for some strange reason, Ulbrick isn't able to
catch on again with another team because you don't protect
your information.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, people could get fired for less. Think about it.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
This is the type of stuff that sunk what's his name,
what's the coach's name?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Gruden? Like, it's no different if you.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Really think about what could happen, right, there's no difference.
This was released and obviously, uh a court or you know,
a gathering of information, you released the emails. But what
I'm saying is is if that young man could get
a hold of sensitive information to.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Call prospects on draft day, that.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Is only in information that the organization's had, then what
else does he have access to?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Is what I'm saying. What else does he have access to?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Because apparently there was his dad left the iPad unlocked
that had all the information that was sent over by
the NFL. The NFL sends over contact numbers for forty
or so prospects before the draft, just to everybody. And
now because of that, it cost his dad one hundred
thousand dollars. And I was actually thinking this as well too.
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I feel bad for Jeff Olbrick from this standpoint. This
is a guy who just went through a clown show
in New York. And it's got you know, he's got
his fingerprints on it. Not that he was at fault,
but that's sort of what he's known as. And even
Jeff olbrig it's like, oh, he was the interim coach
who took over for the disaster that was the Jets
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and Rogers and.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Him as a linebacker, that's how And I know him
as a Hawaii ringhame. As a line I know he
is a Hawaii Hawaii rainbow warrior.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But he gets to Atlanta, He's probably thinking to himself,
all right, man, let me just type action, like let
me just let me just go coach the defense and
let's just get back to football. I don't want to
deal with any of this crap. I just went through
it for for an entire season with the Jets, and
who knows how much longer it lasted, and then this happens,
like we're not even at the season, the preseason training camp.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And he's got to deal with all this blowback.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So I actually I feel bad for Jeff Ulbrick from
that standpoint.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't you, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Eight Sometimes, look, kids, do you have two different he's
not a kid.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, but here's let me not a kid.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Let me just let me just speak as somebody who
pulled pranks when they were younger. And I talked about
this one on the earlier this week. My buddy and
I got ripped one night and started prank. We were
probably I think we were like twenty one, maybe twenty two,
and we started prank calling QBC. He had one phone
and I had the other so that we could get
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so that we could get the prices to jump up
on the screen. And then they caught onto us and
they told us to go f ourselves. All right, so
let me throw another one at you. You tell me
how bitch made this?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Is all right?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I mean you are you already?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I thank you so good?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, but tell me tell me where I'm at on
the bitch made scale when it comes to this prank.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
We waited, my buddies and I waited.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We played at Thousand Oaks High School.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't even need to hear.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, hey, don't be throwing up. Don't roll in sixties.
You threw up the roll, they'll be throwing up no
roll in sixties.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Brother coo. Well good, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Good, So we uh we played.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So we played at Thousand Oaks High School, So that
was our Our high school football team was Thousand Oaks
High Our our trival was Westlake, all right, so Westlake
hoive's our trival in Ventura County. And we waited for
people to leave a movie theater. We were on top
of a parking structure. We all had water blow. We
waited for people to leave a late showing in a
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movie theater and we annihilated them from the top deck
with water balloons. And to make it worse, we shouted
out Westlake football as we did it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
How bitch made is that?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I mean, that's fun, That's that's high school stuff. I
remember I told you the story about when we went
to the I was in middle school maybe middle school,
and we went to an orchestra at the what was
it the Benaedum Center, I want to say the Ben
Benedum Center downtown. Anyway, I had a stink ball and
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there was all kinds of different school and we were sitting.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now it wasn't that like the plastic capsule you throw
on that and it breaks, right.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Those things are so bad.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's the worst smell.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Ever brought and if you step on it, it's on
your shoe for the next hour.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So we're sitting up in the balcony. We're sitting in
the balcony and I don't know what school it was.
I want to say it was like Alleghany or somebody.
It's a school we didn't like. And we was like, bro,
you got that stink bomb. I was like, yeah, I
got it. He was like, bro, let's let's roll it over.
Let's roll it over the leg because we can see
over the edge, so nobody would see it hit. The
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only thing we were risking was if it hit somebody
on the head or something like that, then we were caught,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But it didn't. It hit like it hit like right
in the uh.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We was aiming for the walkway and that joint hitting
the walkway and we saw it break. We was like, oh,
So we had to try to work to control ourselves
because we ain't want to be given away. But the
orchestra is going it's playing Da Da dah, and you
start seeing all these kids.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just going nuts.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And then the smell came up into the to the balcony.
So the the they're performing and you just see a
commotion going on below us and above us.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
We in middle school, So.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You're talking like twelve thirteen year olds, right, everybody's like, Oh,
I'm like, like, while the orchestra's playing, they're so rank.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Man, it's smell like raw eggs.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It really does.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's like nasty raw eggs.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Anyway, the point of the matter is, I mean, I mean,
you're in high school and you did high school things.
Now the twenty one year old deal, you're immature. You're
you're immature and you're not fully developed. You're not ready
for the real world, as I would say, And why
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that is, I don't know. That would be my criticism
of y'all calling QVC kind of funny. Y'all might be,
you know, in a different place in your life, smoking
a cigarette here or looking across the room he's ripping
a bong or whatever. Man, I don't know, but it's
kind of it's it's just immature. I wouldn't say, like
it's like egregious. It's just you're being immature. And that
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happens at twenty twenty One's no different here. The only
difference here is that you grab sensitive information from your
dad's from his iPad, which is work related. That's where
bitch may comes in because you have you have now
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put your your dad like and don't don't be like,
be clear here, he is now super expendable, super expendable.
Anything that he does can and will be held against him.
He can mess around and lose his job midweight through
the season, after the season, be like, we're letting you go,
and and and part of the reason is in his
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file is that he.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Really he was He was got for sensitive.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Information two words with cause, with cause, which screws him.
If he's looking with cause, it's there, it's now there.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So to me, for his son.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Not to have that type of awareness that you're compromising
your dad, I would assume he's still married. I don't
know what you know, what they got going on, but
I would assume he's still married. So you've compromised your
family by doing what you did.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Is a prank? Is a prank?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Call worth you compromising your family? And the sad thing
about it, the saddest thing about the whole thing is
the kid only repented when he got caught. So how
many times has he done something that could have led
to the demise of him his dad, his family that
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he didn't have to apologize for because that's something like
that's something he was so comfortable and confident doing it.
You could tell like this is just something like he's
like a little degenerate kid. And sorry if Jeff, if
you hear this and somebody plays it for you, sorry,
I'm a girl man, just like you are. I put
my pen so on one leg out of time, just
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like you do. I gotta raise my kids the same
way you gotta get up and you gotta raise your kids.
And that's something that must that would be something that
just is not even a part of our family fabric.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
We're not even.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Who's wasting time doing dumbs like that. And if my
kids ever felt the urge or the need to to
satisfy an itch of degeneratism by by compromising my wife
or myself with sensitive information that we would have, that's
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that's it's just not even that's not even an option Jonas,
it's not even an option, my son, And no, I
mean it is what it is like that's your household.
I'll tell you what. Twenty one years old, twenty one
years old, you do some stuff like that in the
Arrington house, you know what that gets you, jonas a
one way ticket. You're twenty one. You've you've sacrificed me
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being your parent. You sacrifice me being your parent. I
no longer can have you in my home, so you
gotta go. I don't have trust for you, so you
can't be around me or my things. So you gotta
go at twenty one.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Have a good life.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I love you. I'm still your dad, but you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So there's a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
A solution to this is pretty easy, Like just give
these kids burner phones that only team executives have, not
their personal contact information, and you pick up that phone
and you can dial straight to them. Use like a
bullpen phone where you pick up the phone it rings
to the bullpen in Major League Baseball, Like use one
of those. Like that feels like a solution.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
The bottom line is is still if the kid is
that type of kid and he gains access to the.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Phone, he might use the phone.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I mean, that's not a solution to a kid that
is a degenerate, Like, it's not a solution.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I also think we're speaking as older people. When you're
one man, you're not thinking like like I wasn't thinking. Look,
I'm just telling you when I wasn't thinking about the repercussions.
And then I remember driving about two three years ago,
and I was going down this dark road to get
to my house, and some kids popped up from behind
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a sign and annihilated my windshield with like four or
five eggs. And I was so pissed, and I thought
to myself, you know what I was owed that? I
was owed that for water bombing the people leaving the
movie theater, the flaming bag of dog crap on the doorstep,
the one where you put the trash can you tilted
against the front door, and you fill it up with
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water from the hose out front, and then you ding
dong ditch them and when they opened the front door,
the water pours into the front house. I was owed
all that stuff, all that stuff that happened to me
based on pranks.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That I pulled when I was a kid. So, okay,
you know, lesson learned.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
If some way, somehow what you did landed you in
the court of law. You know what that judge was
saying to you.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What would he say, is that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
She broke the law shoo program.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You broke the law. You don't.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You don't get to say, oh I didn't know, like
oh well, oh well, there's going to be a consequence,
And there was a consequence, and there was a repercussion
for his child's actions. But ultimately speaking, that's a consequence
and a repercussion for you, for you and not protecting
(31:24):
the sensitive information that that was released or was used
in this scenario, it's a super make like Jonas, I
know you're you're like minimizing it to Jesse being like
him being young. That is a serious, serious, serious thing
what he did. Yeah, I agree, but I also very
serious in nature thing of what that young man.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But I also think that any prank that I pulled
when I was a kid, that wasn't a reflection of
my parents. My parents are great people. That was just
me being an a hole at the time, like and I.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And that's the point, the point.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
But what you don't and then we could get into
the semantics or the details of that, it is a
reflection of your parents, that is the point. That's exactly
the point. What you do is a reflection of how
you were raised or not raised. It's a direct correlation.
So those are the things that you have to think
about before you do, dumb ass. That's the point of
(32:22):
being raised. It's like, oh, I became a killer, this, that,
and the other. Well, my parents were never a killer.
Dah da dad, this, that and the other. That should
not reflect on your parents, but it does.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, you leave Ted Bundy out of this. Okay, no,
he didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Well, hey, it is what it is, man, it is
what it is. I mean that it's when you chose
to have that child, that you chose to have a
responsibility over how that child is reared and how they're raised,
and you have to own there's ownership over just like
if a kid goes, you know, and becomes an amazing
(32:56):
doctor or or they have a great career of doing
something in the professional world, it's because of the foundational
components that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Were put in the place when they were growing up.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Doesn't mean that the kid doesn't make mistakes or do
crazy things or anything like that along the way, because
that's a part of growing up. But what I'm saying
is this dude is twenty one years old. Twenty one
you know what he should be doing looking for a job.
He should be handling his business in the workforce, or
(33:28):
in school doing what he's doing in school, and he
should be so busy with finals because it is finals
time in school. He should be so busy with the
things that he's going to be good in life that
the times of doing something like this would not be
that would not be on his list of things to do.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I just think people, I think that's just how I see,
and people need to be more accountable. Like for me,
for example, if my son does something wrong, I blame
my wife. Like that's because you gotta be still a parent.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Actions, yeah, well it's still a parent that count.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I blame a lot of things, all my kids, all
my wife. Anything bad they do, I say that's her.
Anything great they do, I say it's me. That's just natural.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
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Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right now, though, we turn it over to our guy,
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Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You see him on Amazon Primes Thursday night football coverage
during the season, and again our Thursday tradition here on
the show, it'd be good morning, how you.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Doing, Hello, Ab goodring guys, how we doing?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Good?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good morning outside of and I'm sure we'll have a
conversation or two about Shador Sanders. What was the from
people you've talked to in around the league or for you yourself,
what was the biggest surprise of the nf I'll draft
this past week.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
You know, I think like it was you know, what
was interesting about it was kind of like the way
that like the I'd say, from kick five to pick twenty,
like everything was on the table. And I think that
was illustrated by the fact that like Tyler Warren and
Jalen Walker, who were seen as not top ten walks,
(35:27):
but like guys who had a really good chance to
go inside the top ten when fourteen and fifteen, you know,
so like seeing some of those things materialized. I think
in some cases, seeing like a Mike Green, who at
one point was seen as maybe a mid first round pick,
you know, because he had the incident in his past
(35:48):
teams like sort of playing a sace this year, I
think he saw a little bit more of that. I mean,
maybe Dylan Gabriel going in the third round, I think
surprise some people, But I don't know there are Anny,
I see. That's the thing is, like, this is one
of those drafts where after you got past those first
few guys, like it felt like anything was on the table.
(36:11):
And so I think like for a lot of the players,
there were just these big, wide ranges of outcomes, you know,
where a guy could go five, a guy could go fifteen,
the guy could go twenty five. And I think he
saw that in a way that it played out on
Thursday and Friday night.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You mentioned the Dylan Gabriel selection.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
They took two obviously later in the draft. How do
you see that, Like, what's the thought process on that?
Because again obviously that everybody has been talking about in
terms of details, if you take a quarterback that late,
you're generally taking them to be a backup, not necessarily
a starter.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So I would have to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Assume one of those guys may or may not even
be on that roster come regular season.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
Yeah, it's a weird situation, Lamar, because I mean, and
and this is just from a Russ standpoint, I think
it's gonna be challenging for the coaches in the spring
because you don't get that many. And so like you've
got Joe Flacco and uh, you know, and and and
Kenny have almost and who have almost identical guarantees of
the contract. So the cost of walking away from either
(37:23):
of them is like equal.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And then you have the two rookies there, Deshaun Watson
obvious isn't healthy and ready to go right now. But
you know, how do you how do you break that down?
Do you do you stay to Joe Blaco? Okay, like
you know, like we're gonna we're gonna give some of
those reps to the younger guys. If you're Joe, do
you feel comfortable with that? Given the Yeah, you were
(37:47):
there a couple of years ago. But there's a new
offensive coordinator, there are new teammates that you have to learn,
and like, how is that gonna, you know, affect your
ability to compete to be the starter. It's just it's
complicated in a billion different ways, you know, and you
know how much of an opportunity because of that that
rep situation Join Gabriel the door standards is gonna have
(38:09):
to move himsell. I think what Kevin's gonna have to
do is poplic create some sort of meritocracy where it
just becomes all right, like you know, like well, we're
gonna we're gonna start everybody on a level playing field
from a repta. What doesn't mean that everybody gets to
work the same amount with the first seed, but we're
(38:29):
gonna try to, you know, divvy up the rep stevenly
and then just go forward and let people arm them
as they as they go.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He's Alber Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Breer Abe. I wanted
to ask you about the Vikings and JJ McCarthy. This
is this is a team who was a playoff team
at a great year last year. We know things ended
the final two games of the season, but nonetheless, if
JJ McCarthy is their guy, it would stand a reason
(38:57):
that they would maybe take a step back. And I
just wonder are they willing to go through those growing
pains and understand it could be a subpar year in
comparison to last year, or is he going to have
a shorter leash because they don't want to miss out
on this window that they have.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
You know, I think that was I think all along
that's dependent on what else they have on their officer.
And now they've traded for Sam Howell, I think he
has maybe a little bit of a longer leash. And
look like I would say this, like, you know, for
as tumultuous as the fall was for him, he's been
(39:37):
in the building every day since the season season ended.
He's put the way back on, you know, so he's
doing a lot of the right things.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Now.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
He wasn't meeting with the team last year when he could,
and he had a meeting once a week with Kevin O'Connell.
So I mean, here's the thing is, Like, you're right, Jarns,
it's not a rebuildings that you This isn't retooling. This
isn't a team that can throw like a month and
(40:05):
a half the season overboard the name of quarterback development.
And I agree with all of that, Like I think,
like Kevin, this is where this is where Kevin has
tried to like sort of balance that like balance the
quarterback back developed the piece with like hey, like I've
got guys in this locker, I'm like Justin Jefferson and
Kristen Darius not coming back off the ACL and Brian
(40:25):
O'Neill and Jonathan Bernard and Andrew Van Ginkole and all
these different guys Firon Murphy that are here to win
right now. It's just one fourteen games and deserve the
chance for us to give them every single piece that
we can to win right now. And so I think
Jay Game has got more least to sim Hallison back up.
(40:47):
But I mean, if he stumbles in the in the spring,
it doesn't look good. I wouldn't like rule out them
doing something else to get themselves more insurance the position
the plan for right now with jjt JJ looked great
the spray, but I mean this is a team that's
not this is in the middle of attack team. I
(41:08):
put this fine with you know, just sacrificing a seasons
and nave quarterback development. We've seen that and what they
offered Daniel Jones and how they stepped around Frank just
back and obviously how they see the Aaron Rodgers thing.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Ab Now that the draft has taking place, I think
one of the interesting storylines that maybe got Berry was
Kirk Cousins is still a part of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Aaron Rodgers. Now that the draft is over. Listen.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I was with Joe Douglas and with Jay Glazer, not
the name drop, but was with them during the draft show.
And the relevance of saying that is is that what
I heard from them was that one, it was not
Aaron Rodgers problem with the players in the locker room.
It wasn't even really an Aaron Rodgers problem altogether too,
(41:59):
And he really is dealing with some personal issues that
he needs to to deal with, whether you know, family,
whether him. I did not ask what those details were.
But now that the draft is over, Uh, do we
continue to wait on him as he uh you know,
works through what he's working through, or do we see
something that takes place sooner than later? And and what
(42:21):
is what's the kirk Cousins update as well?
Speaker 9 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean I put a little more thoughts this Lavron, Aaron,
and I just the more I think about it, the
more it makes sense that they're handling the Steelers are
handling it this way. And they really operated as a
draft like with no team right like, so they played
they picked three guys who's played a lot of football
in the first four round is who I think will
(42:45):
be ready to contribute right away. And Derek Harmon first round,
Cale Johnson in the third round, the Jack Swuear the
fourth round, and then they spent their second round kick
to go get a veteran in DK that cast. So
they're operating like a team that's going a now spot.
They've got a win now type of bross or with
AJ players like TJ Watt and make them this patic there.
(43:07):
And I mean like, look like, here's the thing is
if they signed Aaron Rodgers just say two weeks ago, right,
and Aaron was still dealing with his personal stuff, well,
then what happens now? What happens when we get to OTAs,
Like the whole question that's going to be, when's Aaron coming?
Why is the Aaron here? Why is this done? Why
is he here? Blah blah blah blah blah. You know,
(43:29):
so by not doing the deal now, they're saving themselves
all of that, like they don't like the Steelers are
respecting a space. The Steelers don't have to deal with
that narrative when they show up for the off season
program like this week with the rookies coming in, when
they're OTAs again later in the month, and Aaron doesn't
(43:50):
have to deal with it either, you know, so this
actually logically made some sense. Now as for Kirk Cousins
is now both passed two checks. Right this whole thing
there was a the guarantee for next year pasting in March,
and then there's the draft and so now like he
knows to a quarterback, death charts are o their places,
and it's I sort of wonder. Now it's like, Okay,
(44:15):
did you overplay your hands? Did the Falcons over play
their hands? I mean, I just it's if it's not
the Steelers, like and I the Steelers would be a
possibility if the Errand thinks for some reason doesn't work out, right,
where does he go? I just that's the thing, Like
I don't know, Like I think Minnesota was on the table,
but Minnesota would have required Atlanta eating a lot of
(44:37):
the money, and I don't think that they were going
to do that for a variety of reasons, like a
ton of the money. And so if Minnesota's not there,
if Pittsburgh's not there, if Cleveland's not, I mean, what
do you do? I mean Cleveland? I mean, if if
Cleveland went and got him, now, like they have six
quarterbacks that you know, So I just don't know where
(44:59):
the landing spot is. It's just it feels to me
like more and more likely now that her cousins is
almost gonna have to wait for an injury. And it's
you and I both know those injuries don't always happen.
That's not every thing that there's a catastrophic injury somewhere.
That course is somebody trade for a.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Quarter amaut Albert Breer, Thanks so much for your time, man.
I know we got to let you go because you
got to get to I believe you're having brunch with
Bill and Jordan. You're going to go over some Yeah,
that's side because I know you're close to the situation there,
So I just wanted to make sure we didn't take
too much of your time from if you like.
Speaker 9 (45:37):
Hacking to my phone or something that my calendar right now.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Avy of all the of all the awkward interviews that
he's ever done with the media, that one takes a cake.
Speaker 10 (45:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (45:50):
I met some awkward interactions with him. But you know
what's the funny part about that is, though, like can
you think of like we've all seen people like promotional
tours like the media bledds for for a book before, right, Yeah,
I was thinking about this earlier this morning. Can you
guys remember one memorable thing anybody ever said in one
(46:11):
of those.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
Not really No, so they legitimately turned nothing into this,
but it's only the Today Show. Yeah, I mean like
we literally we literally turned a big bag like those
are a big bag of nothing.
Speaker 9 (46:28):
He turned a big bag nothing in this.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (46:35):
Yeah, it's uh with with some assistance, by the way,
a little bit of assist yeah, but in context.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
But in context, I don't know that that his you
know his I said watch dog Jonas made a thing
of it. I think that's what she does. I think she.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Watched dogs him and he enjoys it.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
I mean, they clearly broke broke the rules on what
they wanted parameters wise for the interview ab and she bid.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Be hold on a second though, a far I don't.
I don't believe that CBS News, there's a very serious outlet,
would agree to that interview with parameters on it. I
just don't buy that.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
There's no way with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
Like CBS CBS News, No, because this is really a
book promotional thing. I mean, we're not talking about CBS
Sports here, We're talking about CBS News, right, right. Yeah,
I mean, like this is a this is an outlet
that deals with like wars on countries and dictators and like,
I mean, do you think they're going to be intimidated
or pushed around by a guy with a visor and
(47:45):
what's all? Probably not right?
Speaker 4 (47:48):
So yeah, I don't think it's intimidation.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
I think it's more so if I'm going to do
this on my book tour of interviews, that these are
the parameters in which I will come on and do it.
I do believe that that's feasible that Bill Belichick of
his you know, of his influence, could actually say that's
what I want going into this.
Speaker 9 (48:07):
Interview the same time at the same time, though, do
we know do we know that that like maybe and
maybe this is where having a good having a publicist
would have helped him. Do we know that that was
actually communicated to CBS?
Speaker 5 (48:22):
Right, they're trying to say from Bill Belichick's side, he's
trying to say.
Speaker 9 (48:26):
That a lot of either you know, I don't know.
I mean, I just have a hard time believing like
CBS would be I mean, like the way these things
work generally is like a book interview, like one of
these interviews promotional interviews. It's like, okay, like, don't give
me time to promote my book, and I'll answer questions
(48:46):
that maybe you wouldn't answer otherwise.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 9 (48:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (48:57):
I don't know. But again they again, they turned a
big bag of nothing in to it's really something something, It's.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Really I mean, at least he dressed up for the occasion.
I just thought that was important.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
You know.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
I mean, I don't know. I'm a little out of touch.
That might be high fashion.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Holes in your clothes high fashion these days is very true.
I just said, you have another shirt on underneath the
shirt that you have holes in it. Sometimes it's just
me a b We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
We'll do it again next week. There he is Albert Breer,
Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the m m QB.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Get him on ex at Albert Brier
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