May 20, 2025 • 57 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Eagles reward Nick Sirianni with an extension despite many thinking he’s unfit as a head coach. The “Tush-Push” ban is more likely to pass than seeding playoffs based off record. And NFL insider Pete Prisco unloads on everybody after improving his tan in the Bahamas.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox
on Fox wors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
No playoff games last night to look back.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
On, So I'm not sure what the hell you guys
watched or if you partook in any sports on television,
but we did have ourselves a reward that was handed
out yesterday. Congratulations a big day for the pison passion
Nick Sirianni getting paid. Nick Sirianni gets a well deserved
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five year extension from the Philadelphia Eagles, as was reported yesterday.
We don't know the details of the or the financials
of the contract, but nonetheless Nick Sirianni, fresh off of
Super Bowl gets rewarded and gets his contract extension, which
is a far cry from what we were talking about
a year ago this time, where people were speculating maybe
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he'd be on the hot seat.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It almost begs the question is is this one of
the best runs we've ever seen a coach having his
first four years, He's he's got an over seven hundred
win percentage, He's gone to the playoffs every single year,
He's gotten to two Super Bowls, one to one, and
he's won the division twice.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
How many other KEAD coaches have started off that way?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And yet last year we were having a conversation about
it being potentially a boom or bust year according to
the pressure that was on him and everything else. And
when you take into account he's had to replace coordinators
on both sides of the ball multiple years.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
It's pretty ridiculous how good he's been.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
And I'm not saying that like the Philadelphia Eagles fans
won amount there was for some reason, just speculation that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh boy, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The problem, Okay, so we've got we'll get that fixed
up with Brady who got some technical difficulties there.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But I mean, that's that private jet life. Listen here here,
and Nick Sirianni deserves the same treatment, right and he did.
He deserves to be on a private jet is as well.
It's interesting to frame it the way that you did,
coming into the topic, as as if it's like super
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Bowl or bust for Nick Sirianni this past year, and
he delivered a super Bowl. So deliver that man and
extension because under the most stressful and and moments of
duress as a head coach and as a leader of
a team, wondering if this is the last season you're
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gonna have your job after having the amount of success
that he's had. First of all, it's ridiculous to think
that the man was was put on a hot seat
after the season that he had the year prior to
the Super Bowl win. That's first and foremost. Like, sure
they had some issues. Maybe it was the curse of
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big Dom, you know, him not being on the sideline.
Maybe that's what took place. I mean, maybe you know,
you said pieson passion, so maybe maybe not having that
extra little bit, which I gotta be careful these days
and using you know, racial you know, orientations and stuff
like that.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Gud.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't want anybody coming out and saying I'm not
Italian and I'm not a Pieson, so I don't I'm
not an authority on speaking on Piesons.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But we gotta wait on Trish's twenty three and meters
before you can speak on certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, there's some accuracy to that, and that covers
a large array of different groups of people, by the way,
but it's just I think that at least for every
moment that you find yourself scratching your head as the
why why would they do that? Which was why would
Nick Sirianni be on the hot seat and possibly on
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the way out the door as the Philadelphia Eagles head coach,
which again has been stated, this hasn't been like this
would not be a surprise of any kind if if
they felt like they wanted to go in a different
direction from a Philadelphia Eagle Super Bowl coach.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, it's crazy. So tell me if this sounds familiar.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
First fourish years taking over as head coach for a
previous coach who had won a Super Bowl with the
previous team. All right, so first four years, super Bowl
appearance and another Super Bowl win.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's Mike Tomlin. And it's been.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Fifteen years, sixteen seventeen, and we're just now starting to
hear that maybe it's run its course.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And winningmore same state either side of the state. We'll
see he gets his extension.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
But if there's a couple of questionable years and we
think you should have done more, he could be on
the outs. Yeah, that's a wild difference between two organizations.
One where it's like we've had three coaches since the sixties,
and if you win a Super Bowl and you get
to another one in your first four years. We appreciate
it and we respect the job that he do. Doesn't
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lose and doesn't lose. He just doesn't win, and neither
to Siriani. He's made the playoffs every single year, and
yet the discussion was, I don't know, we'll see with
this roster.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
We'll see. And the crazy thing is, the question was
is he losing the locker room? Like towards the end
of the prior year to the Super Bowl year, the
question was, is he losing the locker room?
Speaker 7 (05:56):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is he too emotional? Like you saw the pundits and
the people out here that do such an amazing job
of sports talking, sports coverage and reporting talking about is
the guy too emotional as a head coach? Is the
guy too emotionally driven to be the head coach? I'm
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pretty certain I saw that yeah out there, too much
of a hot head, too much. He doesn't have the
characteristic traits of a head coach yelling back at fans. Yeah.
So I say all that to say, it's interesting because
results don't lie, and it just seems that you brought
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up Mike Tom It just seems curious that winning isn't
good enough anymore in twenty twenty five, like winning.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is all that that keeps you safe and for how long?
Because he was coming off of a Super Bowl appearance,
I believe going into the year that they had to
slide towards the end of the year. Correct, they lost
to the Kansas City Chiefs. Then they had a little
They started off undefeated. By the way that year where
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he went onto the hot seat and lost dom on
the sideline, They had a little bit of a slide
at the end of the year, I believe, And then
he goes onto the hot seat scorching hot. Did he
lose the locker room? Da da da? Other things that
are being said and stated. So then you come back
and you put together a super Bowl year. So I'm
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glad he got rewarded. It's well deserved.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And by the way, a super Bowl, you can argue
they probably should have won. They probably should have beat
Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I mean, but he was the best player on the
field that day. He was the best player, and it
was a back and forth. It was a well played
super Bowl. No super Bowl to hang your head, but
I will say that they dominated them this year. Whoop
that ass They dominated that that that game this year,
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So I think it's well deserved. Congratulations to him, and
and just maybe, you know, just maybe there won't be
a post super Bowl controversy that surrounds him this season.
Maybe he makes it through. Even if God forbid, they
don't make it to the super Bowl or play for
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a super Bowl, you know, they'll still look at what
Nick Sirianni's doing as a coach and feel pretty good
about it. Philly Man doesn't seem likely.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But can I ask this question, Yeah, do you do?
You guys feel like he gets the blame because of
how he just kind of comes off to people on
the outside.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
A little bit too abrasive, doesn't handle things the way
a normal coach would handle and.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He looks his look fits the way he hits you.
I think that's what probably rubs people even more the
wrong way. Is that the way you depict him if
you don't like him, he looks like that look like
if you put him in a like he's and and
and listen, I'm I'm a first responder supporter, so just
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be clear, let me preface that before I say that.
But don't you think that that's like if he came
walking up to your car window. If he pulled you
over looking like nick, Sirianni, you'd be sitting there like,
oh damn, I'm gonna have to get out in my car.
Oh yeah going oh wow, really I'm going I'm going.
I more meant the fact he got that that new
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he got that that that PD like, hey hold look warning,
he eating a stale bagel and and some old coffee
and he's upset.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I was. I was not going down this road.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
What I more meant was he's the type of guy
where when he wins, he's gonna let you know, he's
gonna look into the camera and he's gonna do the
little slow motion head bob you did, or he's gonna
yell something across the.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Sidelines, which sir, I can't use the language.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Sir, please step out of the car. Sir.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
So you're saying that people give a hard time because
he looks like a cop, is what you're trying.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
To No, No, I didn't say it looks like a cop.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Looks like a cop that wouldn't let you off of
the warning.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's correct that and not only not let you out
with a warning, but but you're gonna do a field
sobriety test too. Yes, that that. Yeah, he gives you
that type of energy, you.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Know, maybe a body cavity search or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't know if he's gonna go that far, but
I will say he is getting you out of the car,
like sir, please turning the car, the car off.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, step please step out of the car. Step in
the front of the car with bratty. What do you
make of the fact that this is the same state.
But Mike Tomlin in his first four years went Super Bowl,
also lost to Super Bowl, And we're just now all
these years later, starting to hear about, well, maybe it's
run its course. Nick Sirianni through the first four years,
five years of his coaching career, same exact things. And
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if this guy has one slip up in the next
couple of years, these conversations about the hot seat are
going to start back up again. It's completely different outlook.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Or I look at it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, but also because of different parts of the state.
You know, I think you look at Pittsburgh too. They've
been such a steady hand the way they've always handled
things as a family you know, owned and run organization.
Philly's completely different because they've got i.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Think a superstar and a guy who can build a
roster in Howie Roseman.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So he's got Jeffrey Lorie's ear and he's probably telling
him whenever he gets an opportunity, hey man, this roster's
built to win a super Bowl. And he's not wrong.
I think most coaches aroun the league would tell you
that's as good the roster a year and year out
as you're going to get. So with all the resources
they have, with the staff they have and the team
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they have, you look at it and say, well, you
should be able to help guide this team to a
super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
But I mean again, they're a team that's had success.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
They fired super Bowl winning coaches, they fired coach to
have been to the playoffs and won twenty games their
first two years as a head coach, and then they
don't apologize for it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'll say this, it was the right move. This team
is clearly the top team to beat in the NFC.
You know, we can debate the two and three after,
but the Eagles are certainly a team that has worked
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to establish being the top the top of the top
right now, and it doesn't look like they're they're going anywhere.
It doesn't look like this sets up to be a
let down season. It doesn't look like this is a
team that happened to just make it to the super
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Bowl and happened to be able to win the super Bowl.
This looks like a team that can sustain success or
quite some time. And I think that that is a
major that's a major feather in and Nick Sirianni's coaching
cap and obviously should should have been and should be
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rewarded for the job that he's done in leading that team.
What if a big dom got a contract extension till
you think he had a little bit of a some love,
would wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What if they offered him like lifetime free Italians free
of restaurant versus an extension.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I just think the way he looked in college. First
of all, he looks in way way better condition now
in his older age than he did back then. He
just looked like the state puff marshmallow man, damn.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Like.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I say that to say he probably was getting
a lot of chicken palm back then. He was. He
was probably getting some really, really really good Italian dishes
back then. So I would say now now it makes
more sense for him probably to eat super healthy on
the healthier side and take care of himself. So I
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would probably take the money over over the lifetime of
getting Italian food.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
There's way more unhealthy Italian food than chicken farm.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's so good and it's great. Which one is more unhealthy?
So or Italian food? I know where you probably.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Food?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know what cheers. Although I we have to be
careful a matters such as these in today's media climate.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
By the way, I'm not well, I'm not playing with
this because I don't think we need to get into
something that's like a no win scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You never know. I think it's a fun scenario. I
don't know. I'm not trying to win it, but I
think it's fund of fun pros. And a couple of
Italian food is most like. But is there like you
could say, you could say Southern food is like you
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know what black people food would be. But if you
call it Italian food, is there a soul food version
of Italian food? Not sure? Oh yeah, like what would that?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Definitely food that's more I would I would think something
that's not more of a Mediterranean diet, which is still
a continered Italian diet.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But like people don't look at Italian food that way.
They think all these heavy red sauces.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
And you know, chicken cutlets all that, and that's part
of it.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
But that's that's not the entire diet.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
M you get a lot of four in the countryside,
YEA eat a lot and that's that's that, and that's
considered like a sole food dish. I would say it
kind of was when I had it, Like like in
our cultures, we eat chitlings. If if people don't know,
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like it's the intestines of the pig. And we cooked.
We learned how through our struggles and and and making
it work with what we were had available to eat.
We would find different foods and and make them edible.
And it became like delicacies to us. And and while
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some people frown and shun certain aspects of the sole
food uh, you know, food choosing or or foods of choice,
I would say I would narrow chitlings down as one
of the main you know, soul food dishes that maybe
would be related closely related to my people, you know
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what I mean. Chitlings. Some people fry them, some people
sataem Some people bake them. Some people use a lot
of onions, a lot of hot sauce. Some people bread them.
I've had breaded chitlings corn bread, Nah, not corn bread,
but they were breaded. So I was just curious, like,
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does that exist? A soul food exists in other category groups?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You know?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Not sure? Okay?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
For white people specifically?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, because I mean, like, like what, like is it
called manudo? Is that what it's called? Like, like would
that be considered a soul food dish for for Mexicans?
I know, I had a horrible hangover. I had horrible hangover,
went in and I had the soup, and I believe
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it's manudo soup. Right, Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Crazy, cow stomach glenning.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
There you go, and it cures, it cures hangovers, and
it definitely is not a bad tasting soup. It's disgusting.
I thought it was good. It's revolting. I thought it
was good.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I mean, if you really want a Mexican soup, pasole
a is the best I've had.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Pola so good. But is that considered But that wouldn't
be considered like a delicacy dish? Would it like a
soul food dish? Like like there's got to have like
some type of a on weekends, like you gotta be
connected to a good score, a.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Delicate Well it's a special dish because it's more associated
with the holidays, like Tamali's like a lot of people
like we like the in laws, that might be a
that's a soul food holidays. Yeah right, okay, all right, Well,
and I know that because because I have those conversations
with my wife at home, so and we do have
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those discussions.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, Well, good, that's a good thing. It's good to
have dialogue. Sure is I was told to set up
last evening. I had no dialogue last night. Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (19:25):
We started off talking about Nick Sirianni getting his contract extension,
and wouldn't you know it, here to start hour two,
the Philadelphia Eagles are back in the news yet again,
because you got a bunch of haters out there. You've
got Inner Division haters, you got people around the league
that are haters. They want some change. They're not happy
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with this tush push discussion. And so this week at
the owners meetings in Minneapolis, they are going to vote
on this to see what sort of changes will be
implemented moving forward. It comes to the touch push, but
it did not stop Commander's linebacker Frankie Luvu, who was
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on with Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
He talked about the play.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
As you remember, he was in the playoff game leaping
over the line of scrimmage trying to make plays and
kept getting called for penalties and offside.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But Luvu spoke yesterday with Good Morning Football about his
thoughts on the touchbush.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, I think they should bet it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
But I know the argument is going to be about, like, hey,
you guys have to stop it. Don't get us his
short yard is and whatnot. But I mean, it's a
it's kind of like a chief no play man. You
got Jordan might lot on it, right, you got. You know,
it's pretty much the sprom in rugby. That's how I
kind of look at it. And we got to have
the scrum too on that side, and the sprum is
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you know, we have a cadus where we all go
at once. It's not like you hard camp and this
and that where you know, now you're getting us with
myself jumping over the pile thinking that they're about to
snap the ball and h that's just my own personal
opining and I'm believe that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
So LeVar, I mean, there's relevance to what he's saying.
There is an honor code and scrums you line up,
there's a cadence. Y'all go, y'all push. The ball is
a free ball. Either side can get the ball game
possession of the ball, if you understand rugby. But again
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I mean I you do have if you look at it,
you do have an unfair advantage of if you're scrumming
and the other side doesn't have a fair opportunity to
the ball. Right, So what happens is is you're going,
you're pushing so that one of your teammates has the
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ability to access the ball. Whereas in the touch push,
if you're a defender, not only do you have to
wait for the ball to move because the offense already
has possession of a ball, But then now you've gotta
you gotta try to fit into a gap to to
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even get into the proper position to get your shoulder
on their shoulder, to try to touch your power and
strength against their power and their strength, and it's just
not realistic. Now, where you fall on the side of
a coin of if is it fair or is it unfair?
Is it an unfair advantage? I mean you would have
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to say if you are literally able to do it,
yes it's an unfair advantage. But again, I don't think
it's a sustainable plate. You're not going to run a
touch push from the ten yard line of the other
side of the field all the way to the other
side to get a touchdown. You're not so?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
We sure?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean I haven't seen it.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
We haven't seen it yet, but it's pretty aren't successful.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, if I see that would be that would
be where I would say I take a hard stance
on saying the play has to be take removed if
a team is actually successfully able to run that play
all the way down the field for for drives and
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score touchdowns consistently during the course of a season, but
on a fourth down or a short yard play, I mean,
I don't know. I do fall on the side of
don't let them get close enough where they can run it.
That would be my that would be my call on it.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So if if you look at why the NFL took
away the pat or I shouldn't they take or took
it away, they backed it up is they wanted to
make it a more competitive play. There's been been different
changes to the rules around the years to make the
play safer right in particular for the snapper, but that
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play was changed because they felt like the PAT as
it currently stands in college football is a non competitive
play given it's so close and so easy for a
field goal charrier to blast it through.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
And it was a.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Play that if you were watching the game at home,
you probably got up and went the bathroom or got
a beer. If you're watching the stands, you probably went
to the bathroom or want to get a good a beer.
And that's not what you want. You want everything to
be competitive, there to be something in line. And even
though kickers have and for the most part they've been
able to overcome that and still be able to kick
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it at a pretty high rate, it adds.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Some elements of suspense to it.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
The problem that I think where I'm getting with the
Toush pushes. It's created such an advantage for the offense
that it even though I still find it to be
an exciting situation because there's the potential of a turnover,
end downs on any fourth and one or fourth and two,
whatever it is. But on most short yardage plays like
a or want it, it does feel like it's you know,
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slightly in favor of the offense, and because of that,
you almost think, well, here we go again. So I
understand the frustration from the defense, and I think the
only thing Frankie Louvu can do is what he did
last year, because it will take an injury to me,
It will take an injury, probably a serious one, in
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order for them to outright Bannitt. I think there's gonna
be a way the defenses have to try to explain
to the NFL. You know, you could say stop it
on to first second, third down or first.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And second down and not let it be short yardage.
But that's not realistic.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like it's also not fair that every single time we
have a rule change, for the most part, it impacts.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
The defense in a negative way.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Like the defense has to adjust, They have to adjust
the way they play coverage, they have to adjust the
way they tackle. They have to now adjust the way
they you know, can't jump over the line for example,
to try to make a play on the quarterback on
this play, to stop them before he gets started. So
the only thing Frankie lou who can do is keep
honestly doing what he did back in the playoff game
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and hope that they look at it and say, this
is now becoming an unsafe play because so many people
are doing this, someone's going.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
To get hurt. We don't want to have, you know
that as a.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Stain on the NFL or a stain on the shield.
And that's most likely how this play gets changed. I
don't really see it or there being enough of a
push now for it to be completely outlawed.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I think it would be significant.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
It could be significantly changed only because there's maybe enough
team so or don't feel.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Like it's a true football play. But I don't think
that's enough.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
So Ian Rappaport reported that the Packers did resubmit, and
the resubmitting includes, you know, base the revisal is both
pulling and pushing of the ball carrier, So it's sort
of that why And I think that I think That's
probably why this because my next question will be, all right,
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do you guys think this will get passed? When they
voted on it last month, it was sixteen sixteen. They
were split down the middle. You need twenty four votes for.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It to pass.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And I wonder if part of the discussion was, hey,
include everything and our no becomes a yes.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I mean, you're talking. I think it's going to get passed.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I think they're gonna ban it and they're going to
go back to the way it was back in two.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thousand and five. Just even like kind of piggyback off
of what Q was saying in terms of it's going
to take seeing an injury take place. I think it's
going to take seeing an injury take place with the quarterback,
Like it's the quarterback that's going to get injured. And
it plays to the point of what you're saying. It's
the pushing in the pool.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You imagine that it's like Mario Brothers when he loses
his power yet smalling.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I mean, but imagine they push the quarterback in the back,
They run into him and hit him to push him forward.
Imagine if somebody just a little bit too energetic and
passionate about getting their quarterback across that line to gain
and they hurt his back, like the dude can't get up. Now,
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everybody gonna be gasping freer. Oh my gosh, he's not
getting up Now. It matters because it's the quarterback to
me again. Before you get to the point of where
something like that happens. Where it matters now, Patrick Mahomes
got the touch pushing to get up. It's got a
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cow right before you get to a point of where
Josh Allen or somebody or Jalen Hurts gets hurt by
the touch, push, ban pushing and pulling. If you run
to play and your offensive line because all intensive purposes.
The football game I grew up in and came from,
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it's one and the battle is one in the trenches.
If I can push your defensive front back and create space,
we're gonna establish the run. We're gonna be able to
win this game. If my defensive front can do the
same thing opposite side to your offensive front, chances are
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our defense is gonna have a ton of success today
and we're gonna win the game. That's the battle of attrition.
It's in the trenches. I have no problem with if
a grown ass man can push another grown ass man back,
because that is the essence of what football is in
some instances. But when you get into pushing, everybody's pushing.
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You're pushing the ball carrier and you're aiding the ball carrier,
and what's taking place. Take that totally out of the game.
It did not belong before. It doesn't belong now.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
On the Patrick Mahomes front, he's still not allowed to
do quarterback sneaks because of that one time on a
Thursday night game years ago when he did a quarterback sneak,
he got hit in the side of the leg and
he dislocated his kneecap.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Andy Reid refuses, so he like, just not.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah, listen, dislocated kneecap, you need to get it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He does walking.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Yeah? When when? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
When when Gus win Gus in twenty miles an hour
the kneecap snapped off.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is that one hundred and fifty year old knee That
vampire kneed to get away from you everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
You know what I was thinking about too, though, on
the point of everything is favoring the offense. Damar Hamblin
died on the field on Monday night football pretty much,
and Joe Flacco got Comeback Player.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Of the Year next year.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Enough's enough, all right, The defense deserves a little bit
of love in the NFL from time to.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I mean, it's a shame, but you know what, I
believe that it's it is going to get voted on and.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Blame all the nerds and fantasy football because they want
to see points, they want to see scoring. They would
and that's what's helped to drive the league to make
the most popular sport. That's the truth of it, and
it's one of the reasons why people love seeing offensive football.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
They do not appreciate good defensive football.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
What do you guys think has a better chance of passing?
Because there's two things of note. There's two things of
note that are going to be discussed here, one of
which is obviously the Tush push. The other is the
Lions playoff seating proposal to where it's going to be
record only, not you know, win a division, you host
a playoff game regardless, even if you have a worse
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record than the wild card team.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Do you think that is more like pass? I agree
it should, I won't, but let me ask the question
once again. Does a conference champion miss the playoffs? Say
it's a six wing conference champion, but you have a
team and another conference that has more than six wins,
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you mean a division winner.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
You mean the division winner you're automatically in.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
You win the division automatically in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You just don't get the host a game.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
It's an automatic qualifier.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It's it's literally no different than why the College Football
Playoff is going to change the way they seed this
year is for this exact reason. It is because they
felt like there was teams who got buys into the
next round who weren't necessarily worthy of that. Now, granted
a little different because of the strength the schedule comparison,
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et cetera.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
But that is the exact point.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
At which you're making and it's why they're changing the
College Football Playoffs and not have that anymore. Well, they'll
essentially have the College Football Playoff Committee have the top
four seeds go one, two, three, four, and they will
get the buys.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
And that's what's at stake.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I'm with Brady.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think this will be discussed. I think it should
be changed. It should absolutely be based on record and
not on winning a division supersedes having a worse record
than the wild card team and that and you get
to host. I think it should get passed. I don't
think it will. I think for some reason they're not
going to pass.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I feel like they should do away with conference champs
to the automatic qualifiers, do away with it. If you,
I don't care, I would different, it would make very
it would make more sense. And in the pros then,
because there's a lot of teams in college, I think
it would make more sense in the pros to just
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say this is the amount of playoffs teams there are,
and with that amount of playoffs team playoff teams, whichever
teams the amount have the best record. The only way
maybe you settle it is if some of these teams
have the same record. I mean, now that's different. But
if again, if you have a team that's in a
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weak ass division and they want a division, but you
got a team that's really good and they're in a really,
really tough division and they had a really good season,
but they didn't win their division. Mighta not even came
in second because the division is so good, but they
had a better season than the team over here that
won the division over here, watch did that team have
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to go home when they were a better team than
the team that won the conference in a weaker division
or a week wee could do.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I'll give you.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I'll give you an example the Cincinnati Bengals last year
versus what the Texans won the FC south right.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
And so who would you have much rather at the
end of the year, I would have I would have
said Cincinnati, even though you wouldn't want to face you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Want to play against Cincinnati, right absolutely.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And meanwhile they're fighting for their life to play for
just a chance. And because essentially it was a Kansas city,
he ends up playing their backups and kind of allows
Denver to get in.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
And that's part of that, you know that conversation too.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
But like, that's to me, when you look at those
two teams, you're like, all right, if they similar records,
and granted, you know you have to look at headhead,
you know, play and you have to measure more factors.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
But I do think there's a world that.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Would exist in the NFL to make it more compelling,
especially if you can get your top quarterbacks in, if
if it wasn't just about winning your division, if it
overall record mattered more in that instance. So you do
get some teams that are wildcard teams that in this
instance would host a home playoff game because they earned that.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And also to that point, if they this was implemented
a year ago, that same Houston Texans team is going
on the road to face the Chargers, they're not hosting them,
and maybe that game turns out differently. I just it
also speaks to me that we've had, you know, one
year of the expanded college football Playoff, and they already recognize, Yeah,
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this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We've got to make changes.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
The NFL has been doing this for years and they're like, Eh, I.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Don't know, we'll see if it gets passed or not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't get it. I just I don't think it's
going to get pat for some reason. Somebody's going to
find an issue with it, or you're gonna have an
owner bitch and moan and say we want our division,
we want the home game playoff revenue.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
They would be right that they will be right in
doing that. They would if they won their division.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
They wouldn't you have an equal argument to being a
wildcard team and hosting one, though, Like if you're an owner.
As much as you want to make the argument that, oh,
we want our division, we should get the host one. Well,
could you turn right back around and have the other
owners that represent wildcard teams and make the same comments saying, well,
we won more games this year, like we were more
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successful than you, Why shouldn't we get to host one.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
There's literally no logical argument against this.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
No, you won your division.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
It should be it should be an automatic qualifier to
get into the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
That's all it should be. It shouldn't be that you
get to host a home field advantage for it.
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going to do it with him. Man who Knows showed
a week ago, the one and only Pete Prisco, senior
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NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analysts.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You can get him on x at Prisco CBS.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good morning, Pete, and now let's get We're going to
quit the pleasantries now here, though, we're going to get
into the bottom of this. You bust our balls every
time one of us is out or one of us
misses a week when you're on. So now we're going
to turn the tables. Where the hell were you last week? Prisco?
Speaker 7 (38:31):
I was on a beach in the Bahamas, That's where
I was.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Or that Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Nice?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Oh you know what to LeVar, you'd be so proud.
How dark I am right now?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
If you're close to me. Problem only if you're closer
to me, my guy.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
I mean, it's unreal. I mean, I was like a
pro danning over there.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
It was amazing.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
I am It's just unreal. And I had a great time,
and I got to tell you the story. You know,
I root for two teams in sports. One of Arizona State,
obviously because I'm in lum and two is the Florida
Panthers because I go to their games. I've become a
big fan. Well, I'm in the in the sport in
the casino bar over there, having drinks with my wife
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and we're sitting there watching the game that play in
Maple Leaves. They're down, you know, to the maple Leafs,
and there's maple Leaf fans sitting next to me, and
I looked at them and I said, you guys know
what's common. Don't even don't even pretend you don't. You
know what's coming. You're the maple Leafs, You're the Clippers.
That's who you are. And I'll be damned if they
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didn't tie it up and go to overtime. And when
they went overtime and won the game, I stood up
and I went yeah, And it was like a seventy
five year old lady sitting about three from Toronto said
about three seats away from me, and my wife looks
at me, she goes, she's ready to kill you. Oh wow, oh,
my god. But yeah, the maple leafs, you know, they
are the clippers. In case anybody's wondering.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Wow, okay, all right, right out of the gave it, Pete.
I'm just kind of curious as we as we look
at kids. We had talked, we talked abovel for us, right, go, kids?
Do you have an issue with the way the playoffs
are done with the city and all that. Are you
more one of those old school traditionalists where're like, no
one of your divisions should matter, even if the other
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team won five more games than you this past season.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Well, okay, here, here's the thing. If you're going to
do it that way, then get rid of the divisions.
Why I think people would, But I mean, what don't
you like having divisions? Don't you like having games that
when you play a team and it's sort of a rivalry,
you don't like that?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
I love watching the NFC South square off twice a
year against each other.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
If some here's the NFC South will be better than
the others, it's all simplical. Everybody complains about it, Pete.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It hasn't been since the nineties since the AFC South
was been where the Jaguars were good is that what
you're trying to say?
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Oh, I'm just first off, when they were good, they
weren't in the eighth South. They used to be in there.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
There you will.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
So they were the Steelers and the Ravens back in
the day, don't you remember in the brown Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But that's yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
But the point being is what are you just do
away with divisions? Okay? So as somebody who played division rivalry?
You were Browns, you played the Steelers, LeVar was with Washington,
You played the Eagles and the Cowboys and the Giants.
Did you not like those games? Do you not want
those games? Do you do you want them to mean less?
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I mean, what what do you want to do?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
When me ask this pet like you're basically talking about
a rivalry.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
You don't want to.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Say it because you know it will then lead to
a conversation, Well you have that in college football. You
don't play teams twice a year, so you could still
have those matchups.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
You can still have those rivalries whatever you want to
call them. I'm not saying you need to do with divisions.
I just think you don't need to make the division
winner an automatic home game. You can make it where
they had an automatic.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Qualification in the playoffs, but that shouldn't impact the seating.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
Well, then then the then winning the division doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Then it does give the playoffs, like you.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Red, so why even why even play the division games? Then?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
People?
Speaker 7 (42:16):
What do you? What do you?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
We're in the same class peak just so you know,
that's what I was saying. But go ahead, you and
you and two continue on though. I'm enjoying this because.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
Because look, either you do it one way or the other.
Either you do away with the divisions and just make
the teams with the best record go to the playoffs,
so all the way down and that's how you see them,
or you could you continue to use the divisions to
decide who's getting home playoff games. Otherwise the divisions don't matter.
You're basically rendering the divisions useless. That's what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Pret No, you're not pretty much?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Are here? Comes Jonas?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Okay, but but Pete, your reward for winning a division
is a playoff spot. So it's not like it's just
winning a division doesn't matter anymore. We should just get
rid of them, period. It's just about the seeding you
qualify into the playoffs. But why if you have a
worst record, so you get a home.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Playoff game.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Because you won your division.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
But if your division stuck, what if you're in a division.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
What if you're in a division that's absolutely brutal. When
you win the division, then you have have a nine
and eight record? Should you not?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
And somebody goes the pe Here's the simplest way of
putting this.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Because the NFL only has thirty two teams, obviously sixteen
on each side, I would actually more be in favor
of getting rid of the divisions because you could create
schedules that are more comparable to one another.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
A college football is impossible because the conferences are too
big that there's too many teams. In the NFL, you
could do it, love it. You have. You have a
seventeen game schedule, so you literally can do it.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
The whole different argument, if you want to do away
with the divisions, that's an entirely different argument. You're what
do you mean?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
It's some different argument you're usually talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I like what you got. I like where you are hating, though,
I like where you guys are hating.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That's like NFC does play NFC AFC does play AFC,
have an NFC championship game, have an AFC championship game,
and do the seedings from there based off of record
and who won the division. How many how many guys
get how many teams get a bye week? How many
two teams?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
The four one one one of these conference?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
One in each Every team doesn't get a bye week
for the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (44:23):
Right, No one does?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
One team? Okay, So the winner of the NFC, the
winner of the AFC gets it. Boom, there's the there's
the that's where you guys are hit. I think that
makes a ton of sense what you guys are saying.
If y'all stay on there.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Going, if you do away with the divisions, right, you
have the AFC and NFC, and then the seven best
teams get seated in each each conference without playing divisional games.
You don't have to play two against each division. Okay,
that's a whole different argument. If you want to do that,
that's fine. I'm okay with that. Why even have divisions
if you're not going to play two games against each
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team and also have the division winner get rewarded with
a playoff game and for being a division winner.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Because you could still give them the reward of the
playoffs by getting in, just not giving them a home boy.
Speaker 7 (45:07):
Why not just do away with the divisions then you
then you can, like, Pete, We're open to anything.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
That's what we're trying to explain to you. I know
it's hard because you want to argue with everyone.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
I'm not. I'm not if you keep If you keep
the divisions, you should be rewarded for winning your division. Period.
If you don't keep the divisions, then I'm okay with
If you don't want if you want to get rid
of the divisions, I'm okay with that. But you can't
have You know what this is.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
This is Pete standing on a soapbox right now because
Arizona State and last year, the fact they got up
to buy.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
And now that that's held all well that went down.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
You know, they were very close to being the Longhorns, too,
very close to that point.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Now Pete's taking a stance and he's like, no, it
has to meet something because Arizona.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Street last year did this. Now they're doing away with it.
They're not going to allow by team to beat back it.
I see what it is.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's a first point.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
It has, It has nothing to do with Arizona State.
We're talking about the NFL, not not the pro game,
the college game.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
We're talking about.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
Cons got to take take cuts.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
The guns in the NFL took like a four million
dollar bak. I tend to agree. I don't you know
what I would be okay with not seeing an NFC
team play an AFC team during the regular season and
then and then maybe now the conversation, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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Like when it was like what it was the a
f L right like, it was like, yeah, I think
that would be pretty freaking cool and it would be
great storylines because it's like which one is better? Is
the FC better? Is the NFC better? Who's stronger or no, this,
that and the other? Well, don't find out until the playoffs.
Don't find out until you get to the playoffs. And
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I think that would be pretty cool because to me.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
You wouldn't find out so you got to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Well maybe to the Super Bowl, but maybe you could
blend them in the playoffs by by seeding right by
the record. I don't know if that pits.
Speaker 7 (47:02):
To what you're saying. What you're saying to do is
complete is a complete disaster. You're saying, take the entire
ac AFC on one side, the NFC on the other.
Let them play only each other during the regular season,
but we can get to the playoffs them all. Why not, Well,
because you don't play anybody, you'll play them during the
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regular season. Why would you receive them in the.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Same they receive them by their by their record. Why not?
Why not?
Speaker 7 (47:32):
You You were almost it. You almost got there when
you said you play everybody plays each other.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
We could keep it. We could keep it inn f
C a F until you get to the super Bowl.
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I'm not. I'm not gonna die on that hill. He
just turn on you. I thought you guys are on
the same team. We're It's a valid point. It's a
valid point.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
He was just he just ahead of him.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Dang hey, Pete, Let's let's get into something a little
bit more positive. Let's get himself a little bit more
positive here. Rock parties contract extension with the Niners. Does
what to the team?
Speaker 7 (48:17):
It keeps them, you know, have a quarterback. That's what
it does. Because it was one of those situations you're
damned if you do in your.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
Well.
Speaker 7 (48:25):
I mean, look, he did a lot of good things
last year. He really did you know, when they when
players were injured, he didn't play good football, and I
think he proved to them that he was a guy
that should get a contract extension. But if you don't
give him the contract extension, what do you do? What
do you do? You're out there playing the game searching
for the Russell Wilsons of the world. Are you kidding me?
I mean, that's ridiculous. So I think it was I
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think it was smart, smart on their part.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Rus own.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Broxford.
Speaker 7 (49:00):
Now, Russell Wilson is now a big Knicks fan. Now,
when we lived in Denver, he was a Nuggets fan.
When he lived in Seattle, he rooted for this team
and the.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Fete Knife sim On Radio. You don't have Russell Wilson
types in your household. You don't talk to them that
that's not I just don't think you're qualified to make
comments and and take shots at uh at Russell Wilson.
Do you think you're not qualified?
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Do you think do you think Pete's out the speed
on that the controversy, Pete?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Have you heard about the r G three Ryan Clark?
Do I figured you know they give you no credit?
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Made me. I felt like, let's just do it.
Speaker 7 (49:47):
You know what I mean? Just remember here's three words.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
I know, all there you go, There you go, Pete,
what's your opinion on that?
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Miss Yeah, misterpotence, I'll nip omnipotent, omnipresent.
Speaker 7 (50:03):
There are certain people at certain networks who invented the
game of football. Let's leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Oh damn geez, take your pick whatever you want to do.
Speaker 7 (50:15):
There are certain people places that they.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
And when that's across both sports, by the way, with anything,
huh is it? How does that have to do with
what you tell us about?
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Well, I mean Lyon Park is one of them.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
So there you go, he invented football.
Speaker 7 (50:37):
Piece they act like it, Pete.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Risco the can man, anybody can get it, taking them
all out.
Speaker 7 (50:46):
I mean, look, I mean it's just football. They act
like it's the end all be all that they everybody
invented the game. I mean you can't have.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
You know what, It does seem like that lately, right,
it does seem like ESPN personalities period take on this
superiority complex. I feel like we should start a beef
like today, you know what I mean, Let's start the beef. Yeah,
because I feel like all of them are a little
bit narcissistic about how they feel about things. You know,
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It's like, if we say it, that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
Right, We're just all breaking down the sport. And we've
done it for a lot. I've done it for a
long long time. You guys have been doing it for
a long long time. In our opinions matter just as
much as anybody else's. And you know what, I'll sit
on the sofa to say my opinion is as good
as anybody else's. So I'm not gonna see. But I'm
not gonna sit there and look down on everybody.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Like, oh, well, you know what, you're not qualified.
Speaker 7 (51:43):
The voice, the voice, you know, kind of reminds me
that you old Brady when you first started with us,
and look at you know, you know, you might think
you know that, but you know what, when I was
in the locker room, it wasn't when the media time
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was in the locker room, when we were in the
corner cutting up and telling joe Y.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Dan how you sound cute now.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
But but again, we always say, and before we're backing
up on this, the locker room starts from the media
leaves the locker room now when they're standing there.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Of course, Brady, we weren't on the team.
Speaker 6 (52:24):
But you know what we're all.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
I told you for years, salted.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
But none of us are with ESPN, so I guess
none of us know anything.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
We're on the same damn team now essentially.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
What we are, I guess we don't know anything if
we're not.
Speaker 7 (52:41):
You remember that, Brady, Are you remember the media? Uh?
Speaker 6 (52:45):
No, walking?
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Yes, you are walking, Tom, he's walking talks.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
That's a member of the media. He's been, by the way,
he's been a member of the media since he stopped
and he started working at our place. He's been a
member of the media. And you've been a member of
the media for a long time. I finally admitted, finally.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
That I'm the most unprofessional media member ever then, and
LaVar and Jonas could back that up.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You know, I am not a member of the media.
I am a I am an athlete that has infiltrated
the media sphere, and I just a moonlight as someone
who seems like they're a host.
Speaker 7 (53:24):
Of members of the media.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yes or no, they're members of our media, and that's
differentia that.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Yeah, but there's a difference between the media and our media.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
Here's what they are, you know, here's what they are.
They're media members who didn't come up with journalistic training.
That's what they are.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Down I would have to I would have to push
back on that and tell you and say that you
have no idea what my background represents as it applies
to media.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
I'm not pushing back on.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
How were you? How were you back in the day,
LeVar when you were on the peat covering the team?
Were you good?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
You know, I worked for my school newspaper, Pete, and
I was the president of my test club. And that
is actually a true story journalism. By the way, I
am Oh god, I ain't even going to be stu.
I ain't took no classes. I ain't qualified. I'm not
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trying to qualified. But I did do a lot of interviews.
Speaker 6 (54:29):
Though incredibly unprofessional for that.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
If you want to say I'm a media member, that's fine,
I'm incredibly unprofessional for it.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
Then yeah, you're not unprofessional. You're a professional media member.
You're not a professional.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Profession I wouldn't say I'm professional like you are much
more professional.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
No, I'm not giving him that. No, No, I think
we're as professional. If anything, I'm more professional.
Speaker 6 (54:53):
Than you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I'm not giving you more professional than me. No way,
no way, no how no I I won't go with
that one.
Speaker 7 (55:01):
I just came up a different way, that's all. I
was raised as a journey What.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Were you doing? Were you doing interviews in high school?
Speaker 9 (55:08):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (55:09):
I was on the school paper. Yes, absolutely, you can
go look it up.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
And by the way, you do know I wrote. I
wrote blogs for the Washington Post. You do know. I
was a blogger, a writer. You do know that, correct?
And I wrote my own papers in school, Pete. I
did not have somebody doing my work for.
Speaker 7 (55:26):
Me, unlike Brady, who got a's in every class in
Notre Dame because he was a quarterback. Remember when I
used to do that. I draw AAA on piece of
paper and handed to you and I go, here's your
report card from the other.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Dang I wish, I wish.
Speaker 7 (55:50):
No. Look, look, there is a difference though. But we're
all media members. Now. You can't argue that, Brady to
please stop, you're not you're a media member.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
I didn't argue anything. I just said that.
Speaker 7 (56:00):
For years, for years.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
Twenty twenty five, p I can identify however, I want.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
That's a great point. That is a great point.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I identify the same pronoun as cute, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Old old right old pronouns.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Prisco over that spoon, Pete.
Speaker 7 (56:21):
Media members, ah members, Pete. By the way, I'd love
to see that blog and it's pristine state before.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
You should go check it out. Let me look it up.
Let's see if it's still there. It was called hard Hits.
Oh my god, it was actually really good.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
I wish I got to look at that. I gotta
go find that.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
There you go, Pete, we appreciate it. By the way,
if you want some of the smoke, you can get
it at Prisco. CBS is on Axes where you find him.
There he is, the great Pete Prisco, always final. Let's
do it again next week.
Speaker 7 (56:53):
And never forget I actually did invent the game. Never
forget it.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Unbelievable, the great pizza target. No, did we talk about
hanging up?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
What's any hanging.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Up the phone? You might have dropped the mic.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I haven't heard somebody hang up a house line in years,
and he just did.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
That was great.
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox
on Fox wors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
No playoff games last night to look back.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
On, So I'm not sure what the hell you guys
watched or if you partook in any sports on television,
but we did have ourselves a reward that was handed
out yesterday. Congratulations a big day for the pison passion
Nick Sirianni getting paid. Nick Sirianni gets a well deserved
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five year extension from the Philadelphia Eagles, as was reported yesterday.
We don't know the details of the or the financials
of the contract, but nonetheless Nick Sirianni, fresh off of
Super Bowl gets rewarded and gets his contract extension, which
is a far cry from what we were talking about
a year ago this time, where people were speculating maybe
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he'd be on the hot seat.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It almost begs the question is is this one of
the best runs we've ever seen a coach having his
first four years, He's he's got an over seven hundred
win percentage, He's gone to the playoffs every single year,
He's gotten to two Super Bowls, one to one, and
he's won the division twice.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
How many other KEAD coaches have started off that way?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And yet last year we were having a conversation about
it being potentially a boom or bust year according to
the pressure that was on him and everything else. And
when you take into account he's had to replace coordinators
on both sides of the ball multiple years.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
It's pretty ridiculous how good he's been.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
And I'm not saying that like the Philadelphia Eagles fans
won amount there was for some reason, just speculation that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh boy, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The problem, Okay, so we've got we'll get that fixed
up with Brady who got some technical difficulties there.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But I mean, that's that private jet life. Listen here here,
and Nick Sirianni deserves the same treatment, right and he did.
He deserves to be on a private jet is as well.
It's interesting to frame it the way that you did,
coming into the topic, as as if it's like super
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Bowl or bust for Nick Sirianni this past year, and
he delivered a super Bowl. So deliver that man and
extension because under the most stressful and and moments of
duress as a head coach and as a leader of
a team, wondering if this is the last season you're
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gonna have your job after having the amount of success
that he's had. First of all, it's ridiculous to think
that the man was was put on a hot seat
after the season that he had the year prior to
the Super Bowl win. That's first and foremost. Like, sure
they had some issues. Maybe it was the curse of
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big Dom, you know, him not being on the sideline.
Maybe that's what took place. I mean, maybe you know,
you said pieson passion, so maybe maybe not having that
extra little bit, which I gotta be careful these days
and using you know, racial you know, orientations and stuff
like that.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Gud.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't want anybody coming out and saying I'm not
Italian and I'm not a Pieson, so I don't I'm
not an authority on speaking on Piesons.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But we gotta wait on Trish's twenty three and meters
before you can speak on certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, there's some accuracy to that, and that covers
a large array of different groups of people, by the way,
but it's just I think that at least for every
moment that you find yourself scratching your head as the
why why would they do that? Which was why would
Nick Sirianni be on the hot seat and possibly on
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the way out the door as the Philadelphia Eagles head coach,
which again has been stated, this hasn't been like this
would not be a surprise of any kind if if
they felt like they wanted to go in a different
direction from a Philadelphia Eagle Super Bowl coach.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, it's crazy. So tell me if this sounds familiar.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
First fourish years taking over as head coach for a
previous coach who had won a Super Bowl with the
previous team. All right, so first four years, super Bowl
appearance and another Super Bowl win.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's Mike Tomlin. And it's been.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Fifteen years, sixteen seventeen, and we're just now starting to
hear that maybe it's run its course.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And winningmore same state either side of the state. We'll
see he gets his extension.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
But if there's a couple of questionable years and we
think you should have done more, he could be on
the outs. Yeah, that's a wild difference between two organizations.
One where it's like we've had three coaches since the sixties,
and if you win a Super Bowl and you get
to another one in your first four years. We appreciate
it and we respect the job that he do. Doesn't
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lose and doesn't lose. He just doesn't win, and neither
to Siriani. He's made the playoffs every single year, and
yet the discussion was, I don't know, we'll see with
this roster.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
We'll see. And the crazy thing is, the question was
is he losing the locker room? Like towards the end
of the prior year to the Super Bowl year, the
question was, is he losing the locker room?
Speaker 7 (05:56):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is he too emotional? Like you saw the pundits and
the people out here that do such an amazing job
of sports talking, sports coverage and reporting talking about is
the guy too emotional as a head coach? Is the
guy too emotionally driven to be the head coach? I'm
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pretty certain I saw that yeah out there, too much
of a hot head, too much. He doesn't have the
characteristic traits of a head coach yelling back at fans. Yeah.
So I say all that to say, it's interesting because
results don't lie, and it just seems that you brought
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up Mike Tom It just seems curious that winning isn't
good enough anymore in twenty twenty five, like winning.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is all that that keeps you safe and for how long?
Because he was coming off of a Super Bowl appearance,
I believe going into the year that they had to
slide towards the end of the year. Correct, they lost
to the Kansas City Chiefs. Then they had a little
They started off undefeated. By the way that year where
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he went onto the hot seat and lost dom on
the sideline, They had a little bit of a slide
at the end of the year, I believe, And then
he goes onto the hot seat scorching hot. Did he
lose the locker room? Da da da? Other things that
are being said and stated. So then you come back
and you put together a super Bowl year. So I'm
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glad he got rewarded. It's well deserved.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And by the way, a super Bowl, you can argue
they probably should have won. They probably should have beat
Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I mean, but he was the best player on the
field that day. He was the best player, and it
was a back and forth. It was a well played
super Bowl. No super Bowl to hang your head, but
I will say that they dominated them this year. Whoop
that ass They dominated that that that game this year,
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So I think it's well deserved. Congratulations to him, and
and just maybe, you know, just maybe there won't be
a post super Bowl controversy that surrounds him this season.
Maybe he makes it through. Even if God forbid, they
don't make it to the super Bowl or play for
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a super Bowl, you know, they'll still look at what
Nick Sirianni's doing as a coach and feel pretty good
about it. Philly Man doesn't seem likely.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But can I ask this question, Yeah, do you do?
You guys feel like he gets the blame because of
how he just kind of comes off to people on
the outside.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
A little bit too abrasive, doesn't handle things the way
a normal coach would handle and.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He looks his look fits the way he hits you.
I think that's what probably rubs people even more the
wrong way. Is that the way you depict him if
you don't like him, he looks like that look like
if you put him in a like he's and and
and listen, I'm I'm a first responder supporter, so just
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be clear, let me preface that before I say that.
But don't you think that that's like if he came
walking up to your car window. If he pulled you
over looking like nick, Sirianni, you'd be sitting there like,
oh damn, I'm gonna have to get out in my car.
Oh yeah going oh wow, really I'm going I'm going.
I more meant the fact he got that that new
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he got that that that PD like, hey hold look warning,
he eating a stale bagel and and some old coffee
and he's upset.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I was. I was not going down this road.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
What I more meant was he's the type of guy
where when he wins, he's gonna let you know, he's
gonna look into the camera and he's gonna do the
little slow motion head bob you did, or he's gonna
yell something across the.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Sidelines, which sir, I can't use the language.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Sir, please step out of the car. Sir.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
So you're saying that people give a hard time because
he looks like a cop, is what you're trying.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
To No, No, I didn't say it looks like a cop.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Looks like a cop that wouldn't let you off of
the warning.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's correct that and not only not let you out
with a warning, but but you're gonna do a field
sobriety test too. Yes, that that. Yeah, he gives you
that type of energy, you.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Know, maybe a body cavity search or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't know if he's gonna go that far, but
I will say he is getting you out of the car,
like sir, please turning the car, the car off.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, step please step out of the car. Step in
the front of the car with bratty. What do you
make of the fact that this is the same state.
But Mike Tomlin in his first four years went Super Bowl,
also lost to Super Bowl, And we're just now all
these years later, starting to hear about, well, maybe it's
run its course. Nick Sirianni through the first four years,
five years of his coaching career, same exact things. And
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if this guy has one slip up in the next
couple of years, these conversations about the hot seat are
going to start back up again. It's completely different outlook.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Or I look at it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, but also because of different parts of the state.
You know, I think you look at Pittsburgh too. They've
been such a steady hand the way they've always handled
things as a family you know, owned and run organization.
Philly's completely different because they've got i.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Think a superstar and a guy who can build a
roster in Howie Roseman.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So he's got Jeffrey Lorie's ear and he's probably telling
him whenever he gets an opportunity, hey man, this roster's
built to win a super Bowl. And he's not wrong.
I think most coaches aroun the league would tell you
that's as good the roster a year and year out
as you're going to get. So with all the resources
they have, with the staff they have and the team
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they have, you look at it and say, well, you
should be able to help guide this team to a
super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
But I mean again, they're a team that's had success.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
They fired super Bowl winning coaches, they fired coach to
have been to the playoffs and won twenty games their
first two years as a head coach, and then they
don't apologize for it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'll say this, it was the right move. This team
is clearly the top team to beat in the NFC.
You know, we can debate the two and three after,
but the Eagles are certainly a team that has worked
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to establish being the top the top of the top
right now, and it doesn't look like they're they're going anywhere.
It doesn't look like this sets up to be a
let down season. It doesn't look like this is a
team that happened to just make it to the super
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Bowl and happened to be able to win the super Bowl.
This looks like a team that can sustain success or
quite some time. And I think that that is a
major that's a major feather in and Nick Sirianni's coaching
cap and obviously should should have been and should be
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rewarded for the job that he's done in leading that team.
What if a big dom got a contract extension till
you think he had a little bit of a some love,
would wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What if they offered him like lifetime free Italians free
of restaurant versus an extension.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I just think the way he looked in college. First
of all, he looks in way way better condition now
in his older age than he did back then. He
just looked like the state puff marshmallow man, damn.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Like.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I say that to say he probably was getting
a lot of chicken palm back then. He was. He
was probably getting some really, really really good Italian dishes
back then. So I would say now now it makes
more sense for him probably to eat super healthy on
the healthier side and take care of himself. So I
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would probably take the money over over the lifetime of
getting Italian food.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
There's way more unhealthy Italian food than chicken farm.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's so good and it's great. Which one is more unhealthy?
So or Italian food? I know where you probably.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Food?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know what cheers. Although I we have to be
careful a matters such as these in today's media climate.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
By the way, I'm not well, I'm not playing with
this because I don't think we need to get into
something that's like a no win scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You never know. I think it's a fun scenario. I
don't know. I'm not trying to win it, but I
think it's fund of fun pros. And a couple of
Italian food is most like. But is there like you
could say, you could say Southern food is like you
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know what black people food would be. But if you
call it Italian food, is there a soul food version
of Italian food? Not sure? Oh yeah, like what would that?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Definitely food that's more I would I would think something
that's not more of a Mediterranean diet, which is still
a continered Italian diet.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But like people don't look at Italian food that way.
They think all these heavy red sauces.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
And you know, chicken cutlets all that, and that's part
of it.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
But that's that's not the entire diet.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
M you get a lot of four in the countryside,
YEA eat a lot and that's that's that, and that's
considered like a sole food dish. I would say it
kind of was when I had it, Like like in
our cultures, we eat chitlings. If if people don't know,
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like it's the intestines of the pig. And we cooked.
We learned how through our struggles and and and making
it work with what we were had available to eat.
We would find different foods and and make them edible.
And it became like delicacies to us. And and while
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some people frown and shun certain aspects of the sole
food uh, you know, food choosing or or foods of choice,
I would say I would narrow chitlings down as one
of the main you know, soul food dishes that maybe
would be related closely related to my people, you know
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what I mean. Chitlings. Some people fry them, some people
sataem Some people bake them. Some people use a lot
of onions, a lot of hot sauce. Some people bread them.
I've had breaded chitlings corn bread, Nah, not corn bread,
but they were breaded. So I was just curious, like,
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does that exist? A soul food exists in other category groups?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You know?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Not sure? Okay?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
For white people specifically?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, because I mean, like, like what, like is it
called manudo? Is that what it's called? Like, like would
that be considered a soul food dish for for Mexicans?
I know, I had a horrible hangover. I had horrible hangover,
went in and I had the soup, and I believe
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it's manudo soup. Right, Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Crazy, cow stomach glenning.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
There you go, and it cures, it cures hangovers, and
it definitely is not a bad tasting soup. It's disgusting.
I thought it was good. It's revolting. I thought it
was good.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I mean, if you really want a Mexican soup, pasole
a is the best I've had.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Pola so good. But is that considered But that wouldn't
be considered like a delicacy dish? Would it like a
soul food dish? Like like there's got to have like
some type of a on weekends, like you gotta be
connected to a good score, a.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Delicate Well it's a special dish because it's more associated
with the holidays, like Tamali's like a lot of people
like we like the in laws, that might be a
that's a soul food holidays. Yeah right, okay, all right, Well,
and I know that because because I have those conversations
with my wife at home, so and we do have
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those discussions.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, Well, good, that's a good thing. It's good to
have dialogue. Sure is I was told to set up
last evening. I had no dialogue last night. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
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Speaker 4 (19:25):
We started off talking about Nick Sirianni getting his contract extension,
and wouldn't you know it, here to start hour two,
the Philadelphia Eagles are back in the news yet again,
because you got a bunch of haters out there. You've
got Inner Division haters, you got people around the league
that are haters. They want some change. They're not happy
(19:45):
with this tush push discussion. And so this week at
the owners meetings in Minneapolis, they are going to vote
on this to see what sort of changes will be
implemented moving forward. It comes to the touch push, but
it did not stop Commander's linebacker Frankie Luvu, who was
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on with Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
He talked about the play.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
As you remember, he was in the playoff game leaping
over the line of scrimmage trying to make plays and
kept getting called for penalties and offside.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But Luvu spoke yesterday with Good Morning Football about his
thoughts on the touchbush.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, I think they should bet it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
But I know the argument is going to be about, like, hey,
you guys have to stop it. Don't get us his
short yard is and whatnot. But I mean, it's a
it's kind of like a chief no play man. You
got Jordan might lot on it, right, you got. You know,
it's pretty much the sprom in rugby. That's how I
kind of look at it. And we got to have
the scrum too on that side, and the sprum is
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you know, we have a cadus where we all go
at once. It's not like you hard camp and this
and that where you know, now you're getting us with
myself jumping over the pile thinking that they're about to
snap the ball and h that's just my own personal
opining and I'm believe that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
So LeVar, I mean, there's relevance to what he's saying.
There is an honor code and scrums you line up,
there's a cadence. Y'all go, y'all push. The ball is
a free ball. Either side can get the ball game
possession of the ball, if you understand rugby. But again
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I mean I you do have if you look at it,
you do have an unfair advantage of if you're scrumming
and the other side doesn't have a fair opportunity to
the ball. Right, So what happens is is you're going,
you're pushing so that one of your teammates has the
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ability to access the ball. Whereas in the touch push,
if you're a defender, not only do you have to
wait for the ball to move because the offense already
has possession of a ball, But then now you've gotta
you gotta try to fit into a gap to to
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even get into the proper position to get your shoulder
on their shoulder, to try to touch your power and
strength against their power and their strength, and it's just
not realistic. Now, where you fall on the side of
a coin of if is it fair or is it unfair?
Is it an unfair advantage? I mean you would have
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to say if you are literally able to do it,
yes it's an unfair advantage. But again, I don't think
it's a sustainable plate. You're not going to run a
touch push from the ten yard line of the other
side of the field all the way to the other
side to get a touchdown. You're not so?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
We sure?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean I haven't seen it.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
We haven't seen it yet, but it's pretty aren't successful.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, if I see that would be that would
be where I would say I take a hard stance
on saying the play has to be take removed if
a team is actually successfully able to run that play
all the way down the field for for drives and
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score touchdowns consistently during the course of a season, but
on a fourth down or a short yard play, I mean,
I don't know. I do fall on the side of
don't let them get close enough where they can run it.
That would be my that would be my call on it.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So if if you look at why the NFL took
away the pat or I shouldn't they take or took
it away, they backed it up is they wanted to
make it a more competitive play. There's been been different
changes to the rules around the years to make the
play safer right in particular for the snapper, but that
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play was changed because they felt like the PAT as
it currently stands in college football is a non competitive
play given it's so close and so easy for a
field goal charrier to blast it through.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
And it was a.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Play that if you were watching the game at home,
you probably got up and went the bathroom or got
a beer. If you're watching the stands, you probably went
to the bathroom or want to get a good a beer.
And that's not what you want. You want everything to
be competitive, there to be something in line. And even
though kickers have and for the most part they've been
able to overcome that and still be able to kick
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it at a pretty high rate, it adds.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Some elements of suspense to it.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
The problem that I think where I'm getting with the
Toush pushes. It's created such an advantage for the offense
that it even though I still find it to be
an exciting situation because there's the potential of a turnover,
end downs on any fourth and one or fourth and two,
whatever it is. But on most short yardage plays like
a or want it, it does feel like it's you know,
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slightly in favor of the offense, and because of that,
you almost think, well, here we go again. So I
understand the frustration from the defense, and I think the
only thing Frankie Louvu can do is what he did
last year, because it will take an injury to me,
It will take an injury, probably a serious one, in
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order for them to outright Bannitt. I think there's gonna
be a way the defenses have to try to explain
to the NFL. You know, you could say stop it
on to first second, third down or first.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And second down and not let it be short yardage.
But that's not realistic.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like it's also not fair that every single time we
have a rule change, for the most part, it impacts.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
The defense in a negative way.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Like the defense has to adjust, They have to adjust
the way they play coverage, they have to adjust the
way they tackle. They have to now adjust the way
they you know, can't jump over the line for example,
to try to make a play on the quarterback on
this play, to stop them before he gets started. So
the only thing Frankie lou who can do is keep
honestly doing what he did back in the playoff game
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and hope that they look at it and say, this
is now becoming an unsafe play because so many people
are doing this, someone's going.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
To get hurt. We don't want to have, you know
that as a.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Stain on the NFL or a stain on the shield.
And that's most likely how this play gets changed. I
don't really see it or there being enough of a
push now for it to be completely outlawed.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I think it would be significant.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
It could be significantly changed only because there's maybe enough
team so or don't feel.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Like it's a true football play. But I don't think
that's enough.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
So Ian Rappaport reported that the Packers did resubmit, and
the resubmitting includes, you know, base the revisal is both
pulling and pushing of the ball carrier, So it's sort
of that why And I think that I think That's
probably why this because my next question will be, all right,
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do you guys think this will get passed? When they
voted on it last month, it was sixteen sixteen. They
were split down the middle. You need twenty four votes for.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It to pass.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And I wonder if part of the discussion was, hey,
include everything and our no becomes a yes.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I mean, you're talking. I think it's going to get passed.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I think they're gonna ban it and they're going to
go back to the way it was back in two.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thousand and five. Just even like kind of piggyback off
of what Q was saying in terms of it's going
to take seeing an injury take place. I think it's
going to take seeing an injury take place with the quarterback,
Like it's the quarterback that's going to get injured. And
it plays to the point of what you're saying. It's
the pushing in the pool.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You imagine that it's like Mario Brothers when he loses
his power yet smalling.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I mean, but imagine they push the quarterback in the back,
They run into him and hit him to push him forward.
Imagine if somebody just a little bit too energetic and
passionate about getting their quarterback across that line to gain
and they hurt his back, like the dude can't get up. Now,
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everybody gonna be gasping freer. Oh my gosh, he's not
getting up Now. It matters because it's the quarterback to
me again. Before you get to the point of where
something like that happens. Where it matters now, Patrick Mahomes
got the touch pushing to get up. It's got a
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cow right before you get to a point of where
Josh Allen or somebody or Jalen Hurts gets hurt by
the touch, push, ban pushing and pulling. If you run
to play and your offensive line because all intensive purposes.
The football game I grew up in and came from,
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it's one and the battle is one in the trenches.
If I can push your defensive front back and create space,
we're gonna establish the run. We're gonna be able to
win this game. If my defensive front can do the
same thing opposite side to your offensive front, chances are
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our defense is gonna have a ton of success today
and we're gonna win the game. That's the battle of attrition.
It's in the trenches. I have no problem with if
a grown ass man can push another grown ass man back,
because that is the essence of what football is in
some instances. But when you get into pushing, everybody's pushing.
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You're pushing the ball carrier and you're aiding the ball carrier,
and what's taking place. Take that totally out of the game.
It did not belong before. It doesn't belong now.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
On the Patrick Mahomes front, he's still not allowed to
do quarterback sneaks because of that one time on a
Thursday night game years ago when he did a quarterback sneak,
he got hit in the side of the leg and
he dislocated his kneecap.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Andy Reid refuses, so he like, just not.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah, listen, dislocated kneecap, you need to get it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He does walking.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Yeah? When when? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
When when Gus win Gus in twenty miles an hour
the kneecap snapped off.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is that one hundred and fifty year old knee That
vampire kneed to get away from you everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
You know what I was thinking about too, though, on
the point of everything is favoring the offense. Damar Hamblin
died on the field on Monday night football pretty much,
and Joe Flacco got Comeback Player.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Of the Year next year.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Enough's enough, all right, The defense deserves a little bit
of love in the NFL from time to.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I mean, it's a shame, but you know what, I
believe that it's it is going to get voted on and.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Blame all the nerds and fantasy football because they want
to see points, they want to see scoring. They would
and that's what's helped to drive the league to make
the most popular sport. That's the truth of it, and
it's one of the reasons why people love seeing offensive football.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
They do not appreciate good defensive football.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
What do you guys think has a better chance of passing?
Because there's two things of note. There's two things of
note that are going to be discussed here, one of
which is obviously the Tush push. The other is the
Lions playoff seating proposal to where it's going to be
record only, not you know, win a division, you host
a playoff game regardless, even if you have a worse
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record than the wild card team.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Do you think that is more like pass? I agree
it should, I won't, but let me ask the question
once again. Does a conference champion miss the playoffs? Say
it's a six wing conference champion, but you have a
team and another conference that has more than six wins,
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you mean a division winner.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
You mean the division winner you're automatically in.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
You win the division automatically in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You just don't get the host a game.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
It's an automatic qualifier.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It's it's literally no different than why the College Football
Playoff is going to change the way they seed this
year is for this exact reason. It is because they
felt like there was teams who got buys into the
next round who weren't necessarily worthy of that. Now, granted
a little different because of the strength the schedule comparison,
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et cetera.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
But that is the exact point.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
At which you're making and it's why they're changing the
College Football Playoffs and not have that anymore. Well, they'll
essentially have the College Football Playoff Committee have the top
four seeds go one, two, three, four, and they will
get the buys.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
And that's what's at stake.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I'm with Brady.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think this will be discussed. I think it should
be changed. It should absolutely be based on record and
not on winning a division supersedes having a worse record
than the wild card team and that and you get
to host. I think it should get passed. I don't
think it will. I think for some reason they're not
going to pass.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I feel like they should do away with conference champs
to the automatic qualifiers, do away with it. If you,
I don't care, I would different, it would make very
it would make more sense. And in the pros then,
because there's a lot of teams in college, I think
it would make more sense in the pros to just
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say this is the amount of playoffs teams there are,
and with that amount of playoffs team playoff teams, whichever
teams the amount have the best record. The only way
maybe you settle it is if some of these teams
have the same record. I mean, now that's different. But
if again, if you have a team that's in a
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weak ass division and they want a division, but you
got a team that's really good and they're in a really,
really tough division and they had a really good season,
but they didn't win their division. Mighta not even came
in second because the division is so good, but they
had a better season than the team over here that
won the division over here, watch did that team have
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to go home when they were a better team than
the team that won the conference in a weaker division
or a week wee could do.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I'll give you.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I'll give you an example the Cincinnati Bengals last year
versus what the Texans won the FC south right.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
And so who would you have much rather at the
end of the year, I would have I would have
said Cincinnati, even though you wouldn't want to face you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Want to play against Cincinnati, right absolutely.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And meanwhile they're fighting for their life to play for
just a chance. And because essentially it was a Kansas city,
he ends up playing their backups and kind of allows
Denver to get in.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
And that's part of that, you know that conversation too.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
But like, that's to me, when you look at those
two teams, you're like, all right, if they similar records,
and granted, you know you have to look at headhead,
you know, play and you have to measure more factors.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
But I do think there's a world that.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Would exist in the NFL to make it more compelling,
especially if you can get your top quarterbacks in, if
if it wasn't just about winning your division, if it
overall record mattered more in that instance. So you do
get some teams that are wildcard teams that in this
instance would host a home playoff game because they earned that.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And also to that point, if they this was implemented
a year ago, that same Houston Texans team is going
on the road to face the Chargers, they're not hosting them,
and maybe that game turns out differently. I just it
also speaks to me that we've had, you know, one
year of the expanded college football Playoff, and they already recognize, Yeah,
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this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We've got to make changes.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
The NFL has been doing this for years and they're like, Eh, I.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Don't know, we'll see if it gets passed or not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't get it. I just I don't think it's
going to get pat for some reason. Somebody's going to
find an issue with it, or you're gonna have an
owner bitch and moan and say we want our division,
we want the home game playoff revenue.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
They would be right that they will be right in
doing that. They would if they won their division.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
They wouldn't you have an equal argument to being a
wildcard team and hosting one, though, Like if you're an owner.
As much as you want to make the argument that, oh,
we want our division, we should get the host one. Well,
could you turn right back around and have the other
owners that represent wildcard teams and make the same comments saying, well,
we won more games this year, like we were more
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successful than you, Why shouldn't we get to host one.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
There's literally no logical argument against this.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
No, you won your division.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
It should be it should be an automatic qualifier to
get into the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
That's all it should be. It shouldn't be that you
get to host a home field advantage for it.
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NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analysts.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You can get him on x at Prisco CBS.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good morning, Pete, and now let's get We're going to
quit the pleasantries now here, though, we're going to get
into the bottom of this. You bust our balls every
time one of us is out or one of us
misses a week when you're on. So now we're going
to turn the tables. Where the hell were you last week? Prisco?
Speaker 7 (38:31):
I was on a beach in the Bahamas, That's where
I was.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Or that Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Nice?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Oh you know what to LeVar, you'd be so proud.
How dark I am right now?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
If you're close to me. Problem only if you're closer
to me, my guy.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
I mean, it's unreal. I mean, I was like a
pro danning over there.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
It was amazing.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
I am It's just unreal. And I had a great time,
and I got to tell you the story. You know,
I root for two teams in sports. One of Arizona State,
obviously because I'm in lum and two is the Florida
Panthers because I go to their games. I've become a
big fan. Well, I'm in the in the sport in
the casino bar over there, having drinks with my wife
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and we're sitting there watching the game that play in
Maple Leaves. They're down, you know, to the maple Leafs,
and there's maple Leaf fans sitting next to me, and
I looked at them and I said, you guys know
what's common. Don't even don't even pretend you don't. You
know what's coming. You're the maple Leafs, You're the Clippers.
That's who you are. And I'll be damned if they
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didn't tie it up and go to overtime. And when
they went overtime and won the game, I stood up
and I went yeah, And it was like a seventy
five year old lady sitting about three from Toronto said
about three seats away from me, and my wife looks
at me, she goes, she's ready to kill you. Oh wow, oh,
my god. But yeah, the maple leafs, you know, they
are the clippers. In case anybody's wondering.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Wow, okay, all right, right out of the gave it, Pete.
I'm just kind of curious as we as we look
at kids. We had talked, we talked abovel for us, right, go, kids?
Do you have an issue with the way the playoffs
are done with the city and all that. Are you
more one of those old school traditionalists where're like, no
one of your divisions should matter, even if the other
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team won five more games than you this past season.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Well, okay, here, here's the thing. If you're going to
do it that way, then get rid of the divisions.
Why I think people would, But I mean, what don't
you like having divisions? Don't you like having games that
when you play a team and it's sort of a rivalry,
you don't like that?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
I love watching the NFC South square off twice a
year against each other.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
If some here's the NFC South will be better than
the others, it's all simplical. Everybody complains about it, Pete.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It hasn't been since the nineties since the AFC South
was been where the Jaguars were good is that what
you're trying to say?
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Oh, I'm just first off, when they were good, they
weren't in the eighth South. They used to be in there.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
There you will.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
So they were the Steelers and the Ravens back in
the day, don't you remember in the brown Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But that's yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
But the point being is what are you just do
away with divisions? Okay? So as somebody who played division rivalry?
You were Browns, you played the Steelers, LeVar was with Washington,
You played the Eagles and the Cowboys and the Giants.
Did you not like those games? Do you not want
those games? Do you do you want them to mean less?
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I mean, what what do you want to do?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
When me ask this pet like you're basically talking about
a rivalry.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
You don't want to.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Say it because you know it will then lead to
a conversation, Well you have that in college football. You
don't play teams twice a year, so you could still
have those matchups.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
You can still have those rivalries whatever you want to
call them. I'm not saying you need to do with divisions.
I just think you don't need to make the division
winner an automatic home game. You can make it where
they had an automatic.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Qualification in the playoffs, but that shouldn't impact the seating.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
Well, then then the then winning the division doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Then it does give the playoffs, like you.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Red, so why even why even play the division games? Then?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
People?
Speaker 7 (42:16):
What do you? What do you?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
We're in the same class peak just so you know,
that's what I was saying. But go ahead, you and
you and two continue on though. I'm enjoying this because.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
Because look, either you do it one way or the other.
Either you do away with the divisions and just make
the teams with the best record go to the playoffs,
so all the way down and that's how you see them,
or you could you continue to use the divisions to
decide who's getting home playoff games. Otherwise the divisions don't matter.
You're basically rendering the divisions useless. That's what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Pret No, you're not pretty much?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Are here? Comes Jonas?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Okay, but but Pete, your reward for winning a division
is a playoff spot. So it's not like it's just
winning a division doesn't matter anymore. We should just get
rid of them, period. It's just about the seeding you
qualify into the playoffs. But why if you have a
worst record, so you get a home.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Playoff game.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Because you won your division.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
But if your division stuck, what if you're in a division.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
What if you're in a division that's absolutely brutal. When
you win the division, then you have have a nine
and eight record? Should you not?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
And somebody goes the pe Here's the simplest way of
putting this.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Because the NFL only has thirty two teams, obviously sixteen
on each side, I would actually more be in favor
of getting rid of the divisions because you could create
schedules that are more comparable to one another.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
A college football is impossible because the conferences are too
big that there's too many teams. In the NFL, you
could do it, love it. You have. You have a
seventeen game schedule, so you literally can do it.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
The whole different argument, if you want to do away
with the divisions, that's an entirely different argument. You're what
do you mean?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
It's some different argument you're usually talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I like what you got. I like where you are hating, though,
I like where you guys are hating.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That's like NFC does play NFC AFC does play AFC,
have an NFC championship game, have an AFC championship game,
and do the seedings from there based off of record
and who won the division. How many how many guys
get how many teams get a bye week? How many
two teams?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
The four one one one of these conference?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
One in each Every team doesn't get a bye week
for the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (44:23):
Right, No one does?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
One team? Okay, So the winner of the NFC, the
winner of the AFC gets it. Boom, there's the there's
the that's where you guys are hit. I think that
makes a ton of sense what you guys are saying.
If y'all stay on there.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Going, if you do away with the divisions, right, you
have the AFC and NFC, and then the seven best
teams get seated in each each conference without playing divisional games.
You don't have to play two against each division. Okay,
that's a whole different argument. If you want to do that,
that's fine. I'm okay with that. Why even have divisions
if you're not going to play two games against each
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team and also have the division winner get rewarded with
a playoff game and for being a division winner.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Because you could still give them the reward of the
playoffs by getting in, just not giving them a home boy.
Speaker 7 (45:07):
Why not just do away with the divisions then you
then you can, like, Pete, We're open to anything.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
That's what we're trying to explain to you. I know
it's hard because you want to argue with everyone.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
I'm not. I'm not if you keep If you keep
the divisions, you should be rewarded for winning your division. Period.
If you don't keep the divisions, then I'm okay with
If you don't want if you want to get rid
of the divisions, I'm okay with that. But you can't
have You know what this is.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
This is Pete standing on a soapbox right now because
Arizona State and last year, the fact they got up
to buy.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
And now that that's held all well that went down.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
You know, they were very close to being the Longhorns, too,
very close to that point.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Now Pete's taking a stance and he's like, no, it
has to meet something because Arizona.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Street last year did this. Now they're doing away with it.
They're not going to allow by team to beat back it.
I see what it is.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's a first point.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
It has, It has nothing to do with Arizona State.
We're talking about the NFL, not not the pro game,
the college game.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
We're talking about.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
Cons got to take take cuts.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
The guns in the NFL took like a four million
dollar bak. I tend to agree. I don't you know
what I would be okay with not seeing an NFC
team play an AFC team during the regular season and
then and then maybe now the conversation, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
(46:26):
Like when it was like what it was the a
f L right like, it was like, yeah, I think
that would be pretty freaking cool and it would be
great storylines because it's like which one is better? Is
the FC better? Is the NFC better? Who's stronger or no, this,
that and the other? Well, don't find out until the playoffs.
Don't find out until you get to the playoffs. And
(46:48):
I think that would be pretty cool because to me.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
You wouldn't find out so you got to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Well maybe to the Super Bowl, but maybe you could
blend them in the playoffs by by seeding right by
the record. I don't know if that pits.
Speaker 7 (47:02):
To what you're saying. What you're saying to do is
complete is a complete disaster. You're saying, take the entire
ac AFC on one side, the NFC on the other.
Let them play only each other during the regular season,
but we can get to the playoffs them all. Why not, Well,
because you don't play anybody, you'll play them during the
(47:22):
regular season. Why would you receive them in the.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Same they receive them by their by their record. Why not?
Why not?
Speaker 7 (47:32):
You You were almost it. You almost got there when
you said you play everybody plays each other.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
We could keep it. We could keep it inn f
C a F until you get to the super Bowl.
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I'm not. I'm not gonna die on that hill. He
just turn on you. I thought you guys are on
the same team. We're It's a valid point. It's a
valid point.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
He was just he just ahead of him.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Dang hey, Pete, Let's let's get into something a little
bit more positive. Let's get himself a little bit more
positive here. Rock parties contract extension with the Niners. Does
what to the team?
Speaker 7 (48:17):
It keeps them, you know, have a quarterback. That's what
it does. Because it was one of those situations you're
damned if you do in your.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
Well.
Speaker 7 (48:25):
I mean, look, he did a lot of good things
last year. He really did you know, when they when
players were injured, he didn't play good football, and I
think he proved to them that he was a guy
that should get a contract extension. But if you don't
give him the contract extension, what do you do? What
do you do? You're out there playing the game searching
for the Russell Wilsons of the world. Are you kidding me?
I mean, that's ridiculous. So I think it was I
(48:49):
think it was smart, smart on their part.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Rus own.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Broxford.
Speaker 7 (49:00):
Now, Russell Wilson is now a big Knicks fan. Now,
when we lived in Denver, he was a Nuggets fan.
When he lived in Seattle, he rooted for this team
and the.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Fete Knife sim On Radio. You don't have Russell Wilson
types in your household. You don't talk to them that
that's not I just don't think you're qualified to make
comments and and take shots at uh at Russell Wilson.
Do you think you're not qualified?
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Do you think do you think Pete's out the speed
on that the controversy, Pete?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Have you heard about the r G three Ryan Clark?
Do I figured you know they give you no credit?
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Made me. I felt like, let's just do it.
Speaker 7 (49:47):
You know what I mean? Just remember here's three words.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
I know, all there you go, There you go, Pete,
what's your opinion on that?
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Miss Yeah, misterpotence, I'll nip omnipotent, omnipresent.
Speaker 7 (50:03):
There are certain people at certain networks who invented the
game of football. Let's leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Oh damn geez, take your pick whatever you want to do.
Speaker 7 (50:15):
There are certain people places that they.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
And when that's across both sports, by the way, with anything,
huh is it? How does that have to do with
what you tell us about?
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Well, I mean Lyon Park is one of them.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
So there you go, he invented football.
Speaker 7 (50:37):
Piece they act like it, Pete.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Risco the can man, anybody can get it, taking them
all out.
Speaker 7 (50:46):
I mean, look, I mean it's just football. They act
like it's the end all be all that they everybody
invented the game. I mean you can't have.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
You know what, It does seem like that lately, right,
it does seem like ESPN personalities period take on this
superiority complex. I feel like we should start a beef
like today, you know what I mean, Let's start the beef. Yeah,
because I feel like all of them are a little
bit narcissistic about how they feel about things. You know,
(51:15):
It's like, if we say it, that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
Right, We're just all breaking down the sport. And we've
done it for a lot. I've done it for a
long long time. You guys have been doing it for
a long long time. In our opinions matter just as
much as anybody else's. And you know what, I'll sit
on the sofa to say my opinion is as good
as anybody else's. So I'm not gonna see. But I'm
not gonna sit there and look down on everybody.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Like, oh, well, you know what, you're not qualified.
Speaker 7 (51:43):
The voice, the voice, you know, kind of reminds me
that you old Brady when you first started with us,
and look at you know, you know, you might think
you know that, but you know what, when I was
in the locker room, it wasn't when the media time
(52:03):
was in the locker room, when we were in the
corner cutting up and telling joe Y.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Dan how you sound cute now.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
But but again, we always say, and before we're backing
up on this, the locker room starts from the media
leaves the locker room now when they're standing there.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Of course, Brady, we weren't on the team.
Speaker 6 (52:24):
But you know what we're all.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
I told you for years, salted.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
But none of us are with ESPN, so I guess
none of us know anything.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
We're on the same damn team now essentially.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
What we are, I guess we don't know anything if
we're not.
Speaker 7 (52:41):
You remember that, Brady, Are you remember the media? Uh?
Speaker 6 (52:45):
No, walking?
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Yes, you are walking, Tom, he's walking talks.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
That's a member of the media. He's been, by the way,
he's been a member of the media since he stopped
and he started working at our place. He's been a
member of the media. And you've been a member of
the media for a long time. I finally admitted, finally.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
That I'm the most unprofessional media member ever then, and
LaVar and Jonas could back that up.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You know, I am not a member of the media.
I am a I am an athlete that has infiltrated
the media sphere, and I just a moonlight as someone
who seems like they're a host.
Speaker 7 (53:24):
Of members of the media.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yes or no, they're members of our media, and that's
differentia that.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Yeah, but there's a difference between the media and our media.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
Here's what they are, you know, here's what they are.
They're media members who didn't come up with journalistic training.
That's what they are.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Down I would have to I would have to push
back on that and tell you and say that you
have no idea what my background represents as it applies
to media.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
I'm not pushing back on.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
How were you? How were you back in the day,
LeVar when you were on the peat covering the team?
Were you good?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
You know, I worked for my school newspaper, Pete, and
I was the president of my test club. And that
is actually a true story journalism. By the way, I
am Oh god, I ain't even going to be stu.
I ain't took no classes. I ain't qualified. I'm not
(54:26):
trying to qualified. But I did do a lot of interviews.
Speaker 6 (54:29):
Though incredibly unprofessional for that.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
If you want to say I'm a media member, that's fine,
I'm incredibly unprofessional for it.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
Then yeah, you're not unprofessional. You're a professional media member.
You're not a professional.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Profession I wouldn't say I'm professional like you are much
more professional.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
No, I'm not giving him that. No, No, I think
we're as professional. If anything, I'm more professional.
Speaker 6 (54:53):
Than you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I'm not giving you more professional than me. No way,
no way, no how no I I won't go with
that one.
Speaker 7 (55:01):
I just came up a different way, that's all. I
was raised as a journey What.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Were you doing? Were you doing interviews in high school?
Speaker 9 (55:08):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (55:09):
I was on the school paper. Yes, absolutely, you can
go look it up.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
And by the way, you do know I wrote. I
wrote blogs for the Washington Post. You do know. I
was a blogger, a writer. You do know that, correct?
And I wrote my own papers in school, Pete. I
did not have somebody doing my work for.
Speaker 7 (55:26):
Me, unlike Brady, who got a's in every class in
Notre Dame because he was a quarterback. Remember when I
used to do that. I draw AAA on piece of
paper and handed to you and I go, here's your
report card from the other.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Dang I wish, I wish.
Speaker 7 (55:50):
No. Look, look, there is a difference though. But we're
all media members. Now. You can't argue that, Brady to
please stop, you're not you're a media member.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
I didn't argue anything. I just said that.
Speaker 7 (56:00):
For years, for years.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
Twenty twenty five, p I can identify however, I want.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
That's a great point. That is a great point.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I identify the same pronoun as cute, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Old old right old pronouns.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Prisco over that spoon, Pete.
Speaker 7 (56:21):
Media members, ah members, Pete. By the way, I'd love
to see that blog and it's pristine state before.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
You should go check it out. Let me look it up.
Let's see if it's still there. It was called hard Hits.
Oh my god, it was actually really good.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
I wish I got to look at that. I gotta
go find that.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
There you go, Pete, we appreciate it. By the way,
if you want some of the smoke, you can get
it at Prisco. CBS is on Axes where you find him.
There he is, the great Pete Prisco, always final. Let's
do it again next week.
Speaker 7 (56:53):
And never forget I actually did invent the game. Never
forget it.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Unbelievable, the great pizza target. No, did we talk about
hanging up?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
What's any hanging.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Up the phone? You might have dropped the mic.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I haven't heard somebody hang up a house line in years,
and he just did.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
That was great.
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