May 21, 2025 • 53 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Thunder dominate game 1 of the Western Conference Finals. The NFL backs pro players competing in Olympic Flag Football and The Old P, Petros Papadakis fights for the tradition of USC vs Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar Ares rating win and Jonas Knox on four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, Congratulations on a Game one performance that didn't appear
to be like it was going in their direction, but
the Oklahoma City Thunder get it done and they take
a one nothing series lead in the Western Conference Finals
of the NBA. Good morning telling.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
That Good morning to everyone. Why you say it didn't
look like it was going in their direction.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They were terrible in the first half.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean, so was Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, Oklahoma City was trailing and it was only by four,
and people were shocked that that was the deficit. They
looked awful.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
My god, they were down by four.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, they looked LeVar, they looked awful.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Bro looked terrible.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I thought the shot selections were I just it's just
hard to accept that they're okay. It's like shooter shoot,
Like when it's one shooter, it's okay in my mind
to comprehend one shooter saying like having that thought process
like if you miss a shot, keep shooting, you know
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it's the next shot you get on a roll boom,
and now the shooter is on.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
But it's like everybody it's like shot.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Selections to me seem so poor anymore. Like I felt
like if Minnesota would have worked from the inside out
and instead of just like this whole embracing of the
outside and sometimes in I think they I mean, they
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would have been in better position to be able to
win that game. And I ultimately would say that same
thing for Oka See. It was just a lot of
poor shooting. But the one thing that I think set
Okay see apart from from Minnesota is their defense. Yeah,
and you know, I know we've talked about their defense.
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That's been the staple of this team. Uh, their defense
has is what carried them through that game last evening.
I still think it's going to be a really good series.
I just felt like that was a a tad bit
of a letdown of a game one. It was so
non like to me, I felt no excitement from it.
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I felt no electricity from it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's just seemed actually, and I hate to say it,
because two really good teams. I was bored watching it.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It was like a struggle to watch it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So like just watching it was like I assumed, like
I can understand, Hey, listen, you know, Denver just played
a seven game series. I kind of get them maybe
starting off Minnesota series, Minnesota looked like they just played
a seventy game series at times. It just it was
not the prettiest basketball game of the world last night.
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So for those who were able to stick around and
watch to the end and go through it all, and
for our friends listening on the Yalla Horn of the
Twin Cities Cafan, it's just one game. It is just
one game. I am a big fan though, and I'll
I love Nasriet. I love him because it's he just
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has this approach where it's like, I'm gonna shoot threes.
I'm gonna shoot threes constantly. I'm going to have a
disinterested look in my body language while I'm shooting the three.
If it goes in sweet, if not, whatever, we'll get
him next time. And I'm just gonna keep shooting like
his feet don't leave the ground and he just he
just chucks it up. He doesn't make one last night,
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he was He was also shot poorly. But it's just
the whole idea that hey, listen, man, shoot your way
out of it. Okay, if you're struggling to find your shot,
just keep shooting your way out of it and eventually
one of.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
These Your way out of it doesn't mean shoot your
way out of bad shooting, shoot you out of winning
the game.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just keep going.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's crazy, you know what.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know what else I took away from yesterday's game
is Hartenstein and home Grin are like playing a series
without ankle weights and a weighted vest. Right, you go
through an entire series where you gotta deal with with
Jokic and you're dealing with the best in the business,
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and now you gotta deal with Nasried and Rudy Gobert.
Like I saw Hartenstein out there looking like a dude
in a candy store, just happy as hell.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I saw homegron out there.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They just did There's nothing about Oka c or excuse me,
there's nothing about the the the bigs of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
That's scare the ok See Thunder.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I had I had, I had the Timberwolves. I had
the Timberwolves being way more competitive than this. I hope
it gets better. You know, this is those those moments
in time where you establish yourself. Like everybody is so
high on Anthony Edwards. You know, there's so much fan
fear surrounding him, electric personality, an electric game, but he
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wasn't good yesterday, and he wasn't He certainly was far
from good enough for the Timberwolves to be a more
competitive team. I didn't feel like it was a competitive game. Honestly.
I thought it was close at times, it just didn't
feel competitive. It's like they couldn't crack the code of
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Okase's defense. They weren't quick enough to get to the rim,
but yet they weren't making the long balls either. It
was close, but just never felt close. So I don't know,
and it's got to step up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It kind of looked like, was it the elimination game.
I think it might have been the closeout game against
the Lakers where the Lakers did not look good. Minnesota
had every opportunity to just run them off the court.
They ended up beating them and advancing and everything was fine,
but you looked at it, You're like, God, this game
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shouldn't be that close. And it kind of felt like
that through the first half of that game last night,
to where it was like, man, if Minnesota could just
hit a couple of more shots, if they could hit
you know, this is this lead? Would would you know
I'm not going to say it's out of reach, but
they could have extended the lead and felt a lot
more comfortable about things. And then you go to the half,
you're only up four, and then the second half the
defensive Okac kicked in, they still couldn't hit shots. SGA
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found his rhythm and then they were off and running. Now,
you mentioned SGA talking or the Denver Nuggets and the
difference between them and the Minnesota Timberwolves for the thunder,
and SGA spoke about that difference with the media afterwards.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Did you feel that at all during the game that
you have to remind yourself, Oh, this isn't Denver anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It felt different from jump They're more like pressure oriented.
It feels like a little more physical. But at the
end of the night, it's basketball. They throw you a
problem and you have to solve it whatever it looks like.
And that's what it is every night, and that's that's
what it was tonight. They had different coverages, different personnel
out there, and we have to attack it and and
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work together as a unit to solve the problems out there.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
And we did that.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
So that was cerebral.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, very I mean, listen, you know, it's an exhaust
it's an exhausting game. He has where he uh, you know,
if his shot doesn't go, he throws himself on the
floor and hopes for a foulcohol. I mean, that's that's
got to be exhausting.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That's what you're going hitting with me.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Come on, man, at something.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think for s g A that's one hundred percent
the logic, and it's a proper logic. I think for
Hartenstein and and home Grin and and Williams, I think
it's very different. It's a very different series for them.
Rudy Gobert is not going to present the same problems
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in the same issues that they dealt with with Denver
and with Jokic. No, there's no team where they're going
to deal with that down low. And the physicality of
what Jokic brings I think is maybe understated sometimes. I mean,
he will shoulder you, he will body you to get
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positioned to make the plays that he's able to make
so consistently, whether it's scoring points, whether it's rebounding, whether
it's getting you know, a good pass off. Jokic does
a tremendously amazing job of how he positions himself to
create spacing to have a triple threat, you know, which
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is to be able to shoot, you know, drive to
go shoot, shoot from where he's at, or to be
able to pass it. And they're not going to experience
that against Minnesota. There's no bigs that present the issues
that Jokic presented, not to mention what you had to
deal with with Aaron Gordon and leading up until he
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you know, was too sore to be more effective than
what he was. I think I think Denver was probably
the biggest, which I felt like would be maybe a drawback,
but now that the way I saw they played last
night could be a tremendous catalyst for them. They looked
like a championship team last night, even though I didn't
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like their shots selections.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, if if the.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Shots aren't going down for you the way that you
need them to go down, and you got to have
something that that evens and balances everything out, and their
defense did. Their defense kept them close, kept them in
the game until they were able to make some plays,
make some shots and pull themselves into the to the
lead of the game. So, you know, I like Wesgas saying,
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but I also would say that you know what. It
might not have been as physical in the Denver series
as it was in this one for for SGA, but
I will certainly say it was a hell of a road,
a hell of a hill to take over, a mountain
to climb if you were big in that Denver game
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playing for the Oklahoma Thunder.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You know what I've wondered. So, if you drive, you know,
like NASCAR, or if you're an indie car eracer and
you're used to driving fast when you drive on the
streets in your car, do you just have this habit
of you just resort to driving fast constantly because that's
what you do for a living. And I wonder the
same thing about SGA, Like when he goes home, if
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he bumps into the coffee table, did he just throw
himself on the ground because that's what he doesn't work?
Like how does that?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
How does that happen? If he drops his toothbrush? Is
he looking around for a whistle?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, can I get a call here?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
How does that work? Because it's a bit much and
it feels like Anthony Edwards is less Anthony Edwards. It
feels like Anthony Edwards is at some point in this
series going.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To get fed up with it flopping that home.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Anthony Edwards strikes me as an old school type player.
It's why we love him. And I just wonder at
some point if there's going to be some sort of
an interet. I think he threw the ball out him
at one point last night, and I just want I
just wonder who's going to get fed up with it
to the point to where there's a scene and some
sort of I don't know if retaliation would be in order,
but if there's something that's not about it, because it
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is it is pretty I think.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
There's a it doesn't come across as like what we're
going to see with Indiana and New York. I think
that could have the potential of being chippy, just because
of the history between the two franchises. But I don't
see there being malice between these guys. I think they're
just there's a bunch of young dudes out there trying
to get it in. Few few sprinkled in older dude,
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but not crazy old. I don't see that being an issue,
to be honest. I mean, guys flop, It's just a
normal thing, man. And listen, they they played the Lakers,
they played the flopper of all floppers man and.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh Lebron flops.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh jesus, he's a flopper.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How could you No, it's not It's not me insulting him.
I mean, it's just a part of his game that's
in his toolboxes to flop and and it. You know,
sometimes it works out into your favor because you get
calls and different things like that could impact the game,
could slow the pace down, the tempo down, could any
any given thing. When you're flopping, you're trying, You're trying
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to get a call, You're trying to get a competitive advantage.
You know, some people hate it. I don't like it
per se particularly, but I understand what flopping represents.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Remember how much heat Mahomes got for it during.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That Quarterback flopping is different. Why Because I played football
and I hit quarterbacks for a living. So it's a
little different when quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If you're really gonna go down violently, can I hit
you violently so I can get my money's worth out
of this. If I'm gonna if we're gonna get fifteen yards,
can I at least get my money's worth out of this?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I think every most charges Jonas or flops if we're
being honest, if you're taking a charge.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I remember in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
High school I was I was so strong and I
played basketball. I was so strong that when I would
be in position to take a charge, cover myself up
with my hands, brace myself for the blow, and the
dudes would would drive and run into me. But they
would fall and I was still standing there like it
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was a pick and I would get the foul. I
just didn't. I was too afraid to just let myself flop.
You're supposed to. You're taught in practice when somebody runs
into you or bumps into you, when you're set up,
like you have your feet set and everything is set
playing defense, to to flop down. That's what you're That's
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what coaches teach you in practice, is to flop down
onto the ground. That's most charges, if you were to
really identify or to study, most charges, their flops. So
and for what it's worth, when you're getting charging fouls,
more often than not, the guy is flopping. So it
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is what it is. I'm not I'm not offended by it.
I think it's more entertaining more than anything else. When
you see a blatant flop, I don't like it, but
I don't have a problem with it, So sang and
to that point, just give I'm giving, okay, see their
their credit. They played a game where both teams, again
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I felt shot poorly or had very very poor shot selection.
And yet it was their defense, which I'm a defensive guy.
It was their defense that I made the difference, and
I just I'm curious, will it be the defense that
ultimately is the undoing of the Timberwolves, or can they
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get hot or will they be more aggressive trying to
get to the hole. Maybe they weren't able to get
to the whole Jonas. Maybe I'm sitting here thinking to myself, like, man,
they you gotta again, you gotta you gotta access the key.
You gotta show them that you can make ball, you
can make plays and score points. Slashing and getting to
the whole easy mid range jump shots too, to closer
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jump shots in and work your way out. You know,
you get a couple threes here and there. If you miss,
it's not a big deal because it's only a couple.
But if your if your shots are all from from outside,
if you're shooting from around the perimeter, just inside the perimeter,
is you know, you're going to live and die by
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that ball, and that's what happened with Minnesota last night.
So it'd be interesting to see what game two looks
like like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
If they're at a at a restaurant in Oklahoma City
and on the other side of the restaurant a waiter
drops a tray. Does SGA throw himself on the ground
as well, too?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Do you think? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I think if the waiter is going through the tables
and SGA were happening to get up to go to
like the restroom or to the bar or something like that,
and he like kind of you know, like brushed brushed
up on him, that's fair. I think he would flop
back into the booth or or to the floor.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Correct, like like like you know, like there and get
a callyeah the way I would agree.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, I do know this at one place, but
you know where there's not going to be uh collisions
like that is in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
When it comes to.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Flag football, well now and now we are going to
get to see potentially some NFL players be a part
of it. They voted on it yesterday at the owners meetings,
and Roger Goodell discussed the fact that it was a
unanimous yes to allowing and opening the door to allowing
NFL players to participate in flag football at the Olympics.
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Here in twenty twenty eight, here was the commission.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I think this is news, represents a great opportunity for
the sport, for the NFL, It's truly the next step
in making NFL football and football a global sport for
men and women of all ages and all opportunities across
the globe. We think that's the right thing to do,
and this is a big step.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
In accomplishing that.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
For our players, we think it's a tremendous opportunity for
them to represent their country, to compete for a gold medal,
which is a pinnacle of global sports. It's something that
I think all professional athletes, and we have two here
today that'll speak to this that across many different sports,
the opportunity to play for your country and to win
a gold medal or any metal is a wonderful and
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an honor to be able to do so.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I like the fact, do you think there would be
fallout if they said, no, we don't, we don't want you,
we don't want our players to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, I wondered. So what I guess I was a
little bit surprised by is the fact that it was
unanimously voted thirty two. Nothing like, yeah, we'll let our
players participate, because I could understand an owner being like, man,
we're paying all these guys all this money, Like there's
no just because it's non contact doesn't mean there's not
going to be injuries, like a guy could turn left,
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turn right, you know, and trying to ask it, Yeah,
and now you know, my multi million dollar investment is
down the drain and he can't participate in the season.
And there's they still need to figure out logistically how
this could work because it's gonna the Olympics. You know,
if it's in the first week, it would still allow
them time to report to camp at that point, but
if it's in the second week, it might cut into
their training camp time with their team. So there's still
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things that they've got to sort through. So I was
a little surprised that owners didn't have more pushback and
it was unanimously voted yes. But I also look at
it and I go just from an Olympic standpoint, and
I'll be honest, no offense, Probably sixty percent of the
events at the Olympics I couldn't care less about at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, I care about Will you care about flag? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And especially if you know and like Justin Jefferson wants
to be a part of it, Tyreek Hill, Like these
are recognizable names, like a lot of a lot of
Olympic athletes. You may not know big picture because some
of those sports don't get the coverage that the Big
four get, you know, NFL, college football, NBA, Major League Baseball, NHL.
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They don't get the coverage of those sports get. So
when you get to see them, you're kind of like, oh,
you start to get to know these athletes during a
two week window. But if you know, going into it, oh,
Tyreek Hills on the US flag football team, I want
to see that. I would love to see it. And
so you're bringing recognizable names to the Olympics. And I
actually think it does a lot more for the Olympics
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maybe than it does for the NFL, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
With you, I mean, is it safe to say the
reason why it's not break dancing, it's it's flag football
that's the sport of choice for the Olympics coming to
America is because of the influence of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Would that be safe to say, Oh, yeah, yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Would it be safe to say that this whole tremendously
large movement and campaign of flag football, of women in
flag football, women in football, based off of flag football,
that push and that that exposure and marketing to the
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masses is generated from the National Football League? Will we
say that that's accurate?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
If that is the case, if that is truly indeed
the case, and you follow the money, you always got
to follow the money. How much money, how many resources
are being dedicated to the buildout and the growth of
flag football. And I made this point every single time
we brought up flag football during our conversations that in
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order to combat what I just talked about, which is
the irony of me talking about my headache, in order
to combat.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
All of the fallout all of the fear moms are scared.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
To allow their kids to play football, tackle football, I
would say probably moms more so than dads, even though
a lot of dads don't want their kids playing football
until they get older, you know, based off of them
looking at what they believe the studies to be and
the brain developing and all those things. Flag football has
been what I believe the sport that they you know,
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people have settled in on football enthusiasts have settled in
on as a happy medium. So it's almost like this
is the training wheels before you take the training wheels
off of the bike, and the kids understand how football
works and the mechanics of it plays different things, the
functionality of football before you get into the contact and
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the physical aspects of the sport itself. And if that's
what you're doing, if you're championing flag football as a
starting starting point for youth, but also as a competitive
sport for women, right a competitive aspect for older people,
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older generations because older people will play flag football as well,
then it almost to me would be counterproductive. It totally
undercuts it. It totally waters down what you have represented
in trying to turn the sport, the game of flag
football into a respected not only nationally but international game
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to play. It's much cheaper to field a flag football
team than it is to field a tackle football team.
The resources needed are very different. So if you're trying
to expand the sport of football, and flag football is
one of the avenues that you're using to spread that
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message and spread that word. Even though it is not
tackle football, it still is a version of football. And
if it's being supported, which it is being supported and
financed by NFL, the NFL in a large part, then
you have no choice in this. In this situation, really,
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the fallout I think would be crazy. I think the
impact of the owners voting no would be amazing, the
amount of scrutiny that they would open themselves up to
if they did not vote yes for guys to be
able to compete for a medal playing flag football.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's like, how hypocritical.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Would that be to not allow the players to have
the opportunity to compete for a gold medal playing flag football.
So I think that there wasn't very much of an
opportunity or a chance for the owners to actually vote
no against this anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I wonder at one point, because like you do have
varying degrees of interest, like justin Jefferson, as we mentioned
he said, you know, would love an opportunity to compete
for the gold et cetera. Then you've got aj Brown
who was like, I'm not interested. You know, I need
to get ready for the season. You've got you know,
people the organ of Flag Football have said, look, there
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is going to be hopefully some NFL players involved in this,
but there are specialists in flag football that have been
groomed for this opportunity, and so you're going to have
a mixture of that along with some NFL players. But
I do wonder at one point, is an NFL player,
you know, gonna get frustrated about something that happens in
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the game and just lower his shoulder just to send
a message.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, all right, so let us show you what the
real football looks like. And I do wonder what that
sort of dynamic is going to be. But it's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Be sick. It would be sick if there was a
team somewhere around the world.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That their sole expertise is playing flag football and they
were actually able to beat Americans, that s would be wowed.
Could you imagine if you're like, yeah, there's somewhere in
a region where a basketball team could actually beat the
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USA in basketball, like you'd be like, dang, like seems improbable.
But you know now, it's more believable to think you
know so many international players. But I'll say this, bru,
there are if you look at the names that are
out there, like I'll say this, you better be happy
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that Hawaii is considered a US state. It's one of
the states. You better be happy that that Samoans and
Tonguans and Polynesians are considered Americans. You better be happy
about that. You gotta be concerned about Africans. I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You gotta be concerned about Africans.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
There would be a place, and I would tell you
I'm gonna give you another one.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Imagine that gold medal game and the soud Ann is
a ten point favorite over the US.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That would be the Sudan. It would be Nigeria. Actually
it would be Nigerian's.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But what would be crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I'll tell you what would be crazy is they play
some hell of five flag football in Mexico. Bro Mexicans
know how to play some flag football. It would just
be wild if you saw but within the rules that
you're able to utilize that there was actually a team
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that's so there. It's like probably a club team out
there that that's all they do.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Jonas, I like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's it's feasible to think that a team could I
guess strategically be good enough to be able to beat
an American All Star team of NFL professionals brought together.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean it is a different game.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's different. It's not different.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So there is I mean, there is going to have
to be some guys that have specialized in flag football
that are going to be part of it, and they
might end up being the best players. Like they're not
going to be this.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
They might end up being the best players, but strategically speaking,
within the parameters of what flag football represents, they might
have a more competitive advantage over anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
By the way you mentioned Mexico, this does open up
the door to, uh, you know, reignite another rivalry in
a different sport, because the Mexican US soccer team rivalry
is a real deal, and uh, the Mexican fans have
been known to you know, urinate in bottles and throw
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it at the American players if they get close. So
I'm not saying, well, for.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What it's worth, don't make that a Mexican thing because
that has happened with American players too.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
But I would encourage Philly games.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I just I would encourage opposing bands maybe not to
take that approach, because these are NFL players you're dealing
with from time to two.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
What does that mean? Well, you know it was malice
in the paddles.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Maybe maybe they might find them their way up into
the crowd.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
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Speaker 2 (29:28):
We've got traditions to a pold here on this show,
and one Wednesday tradition that will not go by by
anytime soon is the one and only Petros Papadakis. He
is the co host of The Petroffs and Money Show.
But you can hear on the Blowtorch A five seventy
l a Sports Fox college football analyst and our good
buddy Pete. What's happening.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'm not much just here in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm like match, Oh, I like Brady.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
I mean I don't understand, Like if my stuff doesn't work,
I go crazy and like I would desperately find some
other way.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You know, what happened? Where is he?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Uh, you're can you walk into you walk us through
what happened here?
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Oh, I would prefer not to.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
But yeah, we were using, of course, you would certain
kind of uh technology that just wasn't fitting in the
city of the comras.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Say you talking to Petros right now, So this is
going to be very interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Well, not that anybody unit, not that anybody who's listening
understands what we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
But he didn't have his comrades.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Special it's it's something you buy that turns a phone
line into a radio line.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Yes, yes, and com rexes are great.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Unfortunately Ethernet they're very hard to find these days.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Unfortunately, where he was staying was not compatible with a comrex,
So we were using a Lucy app uh and the
Lucy just was not working where he was staying.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
We call the hotel in advance to find out if
they were friendly.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To do radio.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Oh yes, we did, of course, perhaps a separate room
with an Ethernet cable.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Perhaps a studio that that was all Fox Fox Radio Studio,
iHeartMedia Studio.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You know you know, like what we did in Houston.
You know, I don't know, you know, you just know.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
No, I'm just saying, you know, these things have happened
to me in the past. Yeah, and very very very
very triggering to everybody.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Well, you can't get on the air. It's a great frustration. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
So it's like there's a great Greek saying about impotence
that that applies. It's called now that the now that
the ocean has turned to yogurt.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I've lost my spoon.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
I don't understand that one.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I like that, maybe you should think hard.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
How could you not understand that?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
And Lee sit it out loud before he thought about it, which.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Is back up two steps and rub your temples.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
All right. So I'm here.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well, I wanted I wanted to ask you about this
because I mean, it's a whole.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Notre Ames thing. And Brady's playing a slot at the
Golden Nugget.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, and look, I don't know if he's doing double
dolphins right now or if he found another machine that
works better.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
But I was curious to know what double dolphins one of.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The great slot machines in the history of age.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
You know, the themes of the slot machines have changed
so much. Yeah, you know they used to be just
like super racial with like a giant, like Fu Manchu
looking guy.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They still have those, yeah they do.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
But now it's like the Ellen Show. I don't want
to play a slot with the weird ass Ellen Show.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
What are they gonna do?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Put me in a cult an NFL slot machine now too,
don't bet it like an NFL theme one that makes sense.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Pet I was wondering because I sloted Antonio Brown shoots
at you.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
What bang bang? And if you could get like an
empty clip, you won, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Like like you land on five hundred on the wheel
and Tyreek Hill get you pregnant's great?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Oh wow, and your jackpot is like like coins, they
represent the babies coming.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Out massage without accusation.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, wheel of Watson's Great.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Wheel of rope, Bounty of buttker.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So Petro's I did speaking of the NFL. Jim Harbaugh's
a huge Petro's papadakas fan. I mean, he would you
talk about ball washing like he's a huge fan. So
what is the the backstory? Because you guys, I haven't
heard him. I haven't heard him speak as highly of
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someone and celebrate someone like he has of you other
than justin Herbert a year ago. You know what, what's
the backstory there?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
You know what I said after talk to Harbaugh?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
No needed it?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Well, he would always need it. I watch a lot
of sack when anybody comes on the show, we show
a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It was awesome to hear.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Though I've had a lot of I've had a lot
of different run ins or interactions over the years with
with coach Harbough and I'm sure I've talked to you
guys about it, But sometimes I see him and we
don't have the same kind of interaction, you know what
I mean. But every maybe two or three times we
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talk about the old times and go down a road
like that. I met him when he was at usd SO,
and then I called uh lot of.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Those games when he was building Stanford up.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
And then when I was training to Marco Murray for
that one season we even went to the Big House
and called a game out there before he just took
over and had that dominant couple seasons.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
So I know him in that regard.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
I watched him build Stanford football up, which was a
modern day football miracle. It really was what he did
at Stanford. How he did it at Stanford is the
stuff that people will talk about for a long time,
not just Stanford types. So I think it reminds him
of a time that maybe was a little more simple,
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or a time when he was coming up. Has had
a young family and all that, so maybe that's why.
But yeah, I always love seeing Jim Harbaugh. It's always
interesting to talk to him, and he's he's I mean,
there's a lot of great characters in football, and there's
a lot of great characters who have had a lot
of success, and he's probably at the top of that list.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Can I and started to interrupt bar, but I just
want to ask this when you mentioned the Stanford stuff,
what was it about that turnaround that felt different from
maybe others that we've seen or.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
Other Well, I mean, if you have familiar with Stanford football,
I mean, they just wouldn't have guys like Richard Sherman
on the team. They just wouldn't be able to get
him in. I'm sure Richard had really good grades and
all that, but maybe he's not the best example, but
to me, he's a shining example. He started out as
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a receiver there and they ended up moving him to
corner and ultimately that's kind of Stanford's problem. I mean,
they can recruit, they have the toughest they have the
toughest admissions process of any active FBS college football entity,
meaning you really can't get anybody in there. They can
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get and they can get tight ends, they can get
O line, they can get quarterbacks, get linebackers, running backs, fullbacks,
they have wide receivers, no problem. They have trouble getting
corners and a little bit like BYU, they have some
trouble with D line and that's kind of been the
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longtime rub on recruiting there. They just can't get a
lot of these guys in. When I was younger, they
had Nigerian guys, a bunch of them, because those are
the type of guys they could get in. They had
Babatunde Oshinowo, remember oj Atagway, Levartway. Yeah, sat Louis ram
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I think loved him as a player. So Harbaugh came
and he had he had some kind of experience at Stanford.
He was raised for part of his life in Palo Alto.
His father had coached there, and he understood the place
and it is really one of the most foreign places
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that plays big time college football. It makes Duke and
vander Built and Northwestern look like Michigan football. I mean,
that's how odd Stanford football is.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
And it really is. It's just a it's not for everybody.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
And I went to his very first camp at Stanford
and watch them doing drills that you wouldn't do with
a high school football team because you'd get people hurt.
And watching him turn the team into what they called
the whole intellectual brutality thing and make it like they
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were bring back the power play in football, block down,
kick out, lead, the fullback through kind of thing. This
was unprecedented and to do it at Stanford and run
USC basically run Pete Carroll out of the Pac ten
at the time by putting fifty five on him in
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the coliseum I think in two thousand and nine, where
they didn't even want to, I mean they wouldn't. They
stopped tackling the power play us he gave up and
a Pete Carroll coach defense on the floor of the coliseum.
And the next year Pete Carroll was gone, and that
was the what's your deal game? What's your rEFInd deal?
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And you know, why'd you go for two? Because I
couldn't go for three? You know, it was it was
so so that's that's kind of the crux of our
relationship there, and I recognized it. I loved Toby Gerhart,
I loved Owen Marie Sick. Yeah, I would love that player.
Watched them play in high school. Owen Mari Sick. They
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had a fullback who went both ways. They had all
those great tight ends like Fleener and you know, go
on and on and they had They were just fun
to watch so h and it was interesting to watch
them do battle with USC and their time and the
Chip Kelly Oregon teams. It's a great time in the
in the Pac ten conference. So I think that our
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memories go back to that. Sorry if it's log answer, No,
it's good.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
No, it's perfect. You know it's radio.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
You're right. You know.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I find myself in real life, Like somebody asked me
a question, can I start from like Genesis?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You know in the beginning? God, you know, they're like
you got that.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
It's like after five minutes, I realized, like, look, in
real life, you know, it's my job to fill time.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I should really wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You know, you gotta paint the picture. You know, I
get it. Yeah, you know, lazy, lazy people do TV.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You know people who want to work, they do radio
because you got to paint the whole TV.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Is good because you can get real hot take on
these days.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Oh yeah, you got to say something super quick, like
talk about somebody's girlfriend. Yeah, how important are they talk
about somebody's wife?
Speaker 6 (40:45):
How what race is your wife? What?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
What what raises your wife? You know this talk about it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
It's just funny that it took so long for people
to bring up the other side of the coin on
talking about racial relations.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
That's why you got a baby with a white woman.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
There you go, you know, there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There's always a way to have a comeback in these
types of medium forms.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
If you got a white bastard, run.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
God.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
If I die, then my child will be a bastard,
which is not accurate by Scarface and the Ghetto Boys
song my mind. He says, if I die, then my
child will be a bastard. And that's not the case.
If your child was born out of wedlock, that he's
a bastard whether you're alive or not.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But I don't believe the start definition of it.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Yeah, and I do not believe that Scarface has any
bastards looking at it look.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
From the ghetto.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I just know that he never did any rhymes that
had another rapper come out and have to say I
did some digging and saw that. Well that's that's what
you have going on. But hey, to each his own.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I don't see you sitting alone in your four cornered
room staring at candles.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, my mind's playing tricks on me.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
You know, my favorite mind is playing tricks on me.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Is the guy?
Speaker 8 (42:13):
The guy I don't think he made it as long
as the band the Ghetto Boys got the second verse guy,
the guy that goes funny. I d everybody know me, like,
I'm a stupid what movie star?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I thought he had kine but it was gold and
but something right, He's stupid, dude.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Do you uh, who do you think out of the
l A team since we were you know, so heavy
on horrball? Which McVeigh or harball? Which one has the
better season this year? The Rams or or the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
That's a great question, you know.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Uh, the Chargers had such a great turnaround and then
they performed in the playoffs kind of like they had
the previous years, which was shocking, I think to people
who support them, I love Justin Herbert and I want
to see him thrive. I think he's a great kid
and a really impressive player. And I saw him in
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college and he's one of those guys who are like, yeah,
I could see that guy being really good in the NFL.
He's six six and he can move and he throws
the ball beautifully. He's got a great attitude. So it's
good to know that, you know, you feel right about
a quarterback. Every once in a while, they actually end
up being pretty good. Mcveigh's really great.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
You know.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
It's hard. He's really annoying to me. Listening to him
talk is like going to Tony Robbins seminar. But he's
a great coach. He understands offense, he's a great play caller.
At that level, you can have a guy who's calling
plays as the head coach and still actually win championships.
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I don't think it's ever happened in college football, maybe
not since Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
But you got McVeigh.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Calling his own plays, You got Andy Reid calling his
own plays, and they're the best of the best. He's
right up there with those guys and a very exciting coach.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
His hair's all gelled up. It's annoying.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
Listening to him talk is annoying, but you cannot argue
with what they've done. Who has a better season? Gosh,
I hope it's the Chargers, just because I'm associated with him,
and my radio partner gets so mad if they lose that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Uh oh.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Does Matt take it to heart when they lose?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
I believe he takes it a little personal.
Speaker 8 (44:42):
You know, when you're with the team and you're on
the plane, you know you want him to win, because
everybody's sad if they're you know what I'm saying, So
then you become emotionally involved. I signed everybody, not everybody,
you know me, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
It'd be a lot of loud ass laughers on losing play.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Ain't Sometime then there's that one guy that stands up
and goes, why I laughing? We we had some set
tripping on some players if they were too if the
flight was too long.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
We'd have some guys get punched in the head.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Every once in a while, Yeah, is that John Rob.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Somebody can just go too far.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Jonas touched on the Notre Dame USC thing.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's I brought up the idea of
like that transfer portal. Broh, It's like it's up there
for USC, like people are getting the hell out of Dodge.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Seemingly it looks like at USC.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Well, let's what's going on, man, let's discuss at LeVar.
Speaker 8 (45:48):
I mean, what's the butt Like, you're a Penn State guy,
You're a Penn State legend. Obviously you have great feulings
about Penn State and you're well, you know that your
son's playing there. I mean, you're one of the greatest
defenders that ever put on that uniform, which is saying
a lot because there's a lot of people that have
worn that uniform. So what is the buzz about Penn
State this this off season? Uh, it's that that quarterbacks coming.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Back, right, Yeah, and the running backs are coming back.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
And they're going to compete again for a Big Ten title, right.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
And possibly national Right?
Speaker 6 (46:21):
So what is the buzz? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:23):
And if you can, if you're going to win the
Big Ten title, Uh, you know obviously you're going to
be involved in that too.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
What is the buzz about my alma mater. This off
they're just in the world.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Oh that Uh, they don't want to play. It seems
like they don't want to play Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Right, that's the conversations.
Speaker 8 (46:46):
The buzz is that like the positive buzz, because because
we don't want to play Notre Dame or posturing.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
In that way is not positive in my opinion.
Speaker 8 (46:54):
The positive buzz is that they have hired a GM
who is securing verbals for a freshman class in twenty
twenty six Oka. That is the but there nobody is
talking about the quarterback they have my AVA because they
I don't know why they would. Nobody's talking about who's
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coming in or who's coming out for twenty twenty five.
USC's buzz this offseason is exactly what you said. We're
trying to wriggle out a Notre Dame and hey, look
at this recruiting class that may or may not show
up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
That is disgusting and sad.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
I don't care what Colin Cowherd, who went to Eastern
Washington thinks about what us he should do because he
went to a couple rich guy, wealthy USC parties when
he lived.
Speaker 6 (47:46):
In Manhattan Beach and now lives in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
I don't need anybody from outside the USC world, grounded
in the USC traditions to tell me what USC he
should or shouldn't be doing. Don't want to hear about
how the backyard Brawl isn't played anymore, or Bedlam or
Texas Texas A and M went away or Oklahoma Nebraska
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USC Notre Dame has been played for one hundred plus years.
The only time they ever took off was World War Two.
It has nothing to do with conference realignment, which is
why that's not an argument. If US is too soft
that a new Big Ten schedule makes it so they
can't play Notre Dame, then maybe they should leave the
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Big Ten for God's sakes. And here's another question or
statement from me. If you can't beat Maryland or Minnesota,
the hell are you worried about who's on your schedule? Anyway,
you ain't competing for a national championship. You're not competing
for a Big Ten championship. And if you're scared a
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Notre Dame, you can't compete for a national championship either.
None of these things make any sense. And if it's
Lincoln Riley, who's behind it, and it seems like it
the only reason he's still there is because of his
huge buyout. Here's a coach that's not embraced US. He's
traditions at all, has been beyond disappointing ever since his
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first year. And let's not forget him. Their first year
they lost the Cotton Bowl to Tulane with Caleb Williams
at quarterback healthy. So what are we looking at. We're
looking at a guy who doesn't want to be at SC,
or at least doesn't want to be at SC the
way US he is, who's not doing well. And this
guy gets to say whether or not or has an
influence on whether or not US he plays this giant
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hard schedule or not, or against Notre Dame that they've
done for one hundred years. You have no say in it.
Who cares what Lincoln Riley says. If it wasn't for
his buyout, he'd be gone. He should be gone anyway.
So that's an interesting part of it. But ultimately I
do think US he's just posturing. I think they'll sign
for twenty twenty six, they'll wait to see what the
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college football playoff expansion is. But if you're USC, wouldn't
you rather have Notre Dame on your resume as opposed
to Georgia Southern or something.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
So at the end of the even if you lose,
you're going it's a good you know, it's right, it's
just for business.
Speaker 8 (50:21):
It's the most bits made thing I've ever heard in
my life. And no one and like when USC lost
like thirteen straight years or didn't win for thirteen straight
years when I was a kid, it was very frustrating,
but nobody sat there and said, well, we shouldn't play anymore,
we can't beat these guys. Or when Pete Carroll was dominating, imagine,
imagine those days.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
We still got to do Ohio State, still got to
do Michigan. That be right, And that's I don't run
away from it. Well, that's what you try to figure
it out. That's who you are. That's what you know.
I mean, you're USC football. You're supposed to be a
blue blood. You don't remain a blue blood by saying, well,
we don't want to play Notre Dame anymore, We got
to play Rutgers. Shut your effing mouth, like I just
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I cannot, I cannot believe it.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
But I do think, uh, you know, when there's more
playoff expansion, they'll probably sign a longer deal, but if
they miss one year, it's a travesty. And I don't
want to hear Colin Kawer and tell me about what
modern college football is like and how you can go
buy a high school player and it's not like it
used to be. That has nothing to do with us.
He playing Notre Dame. And if you you should never
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even talk about USC football if you don't understand what
the rivalry is and why it should remain.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Like it just at some point, if you don't have
at least a little tradition, then what is it like
it's basic.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Yeah, let's just change the colors.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Look.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I like Mike Gundy, but Mike gundy stance on, well,
you know we're not playing Bedlam anymore because of them.
It's like, No, you probably could have figured out a
way to make that still work, but that's it feels
like it was petty, And it just feels like if
you start eliminating the traditions, like I'm willing to acknowledge, Hey,
things have changed and expanded, playoff, the transfer portal, nil,
all that part.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
But if you guys, if you leave a conference and
then okay, there's a conversation to be had. But USC
and Notre Dame have never been in the same conference.
That's what it's about. So none of these modern college
football stumbling blocks exist. They can play every year. That's
why Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants to play every year.
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They should play every year. They've played every year other
than World War Two. This ain't I know, the transfer
portal and nil, and we're in a crazy chaotic time
in college football, but I don't think it compares to
World War Two.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
We got to keep playing.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, it's true, it's odd, but Petros, we appreciate it
as always.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
It's not odd. It's soft and it's bitch man, damn
take that certain right, Like did.
Speaker 8 (52:52):
USC when they were when they were competing for a
title where you would lose one game in the BCS
era and it would be all over.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
Were they like, ah, gosh, you know, we're so good.
Speaker 8 (53:02):
We don't want to play Notre Dame anymore because it
might hurt us, right, shut up? Like if you don't
want to play Notre Dame, go play at Fresno. Like,
shut up, anyway, go to Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, go to Hawaii, all right?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Playing Yeah, get him on ex at the old p.
He is Petros Papadegas, the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch
AM five seventy l A Sports Fox College Football analysts
and our good buddy Petros. Thank you, we'll do it
again next week. There he is, the great Petros Papadegas.
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Let's he here on Fox Sports Radio.
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar Ares rating win and Jonas Knox on four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, Congratulations on a Game one performance that didn't appear
to be like it was going in their direction, but
the Oklahoma City Thunder get it done and they take
a one nothing series lead in the Western Conference Finals
of the NBA. Good morning telling.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
That Good morning to everyone. Why you say it didn't
look like it was going in their direction.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They were terrible in the first half.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean, so was Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, Oklahoma City was trailing and it was only by four,
and people were shocked that that was the deficit. They
looked awful.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
My god, they were down by four.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, they looked LeVar, they looked awful.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Bro looked terrible.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I thought the shot selections were I just it's just
hard to accept that they're okay. It's like shooter shoot,
Like when it's one shooter, it's okay in my mind
to comprehend one shooter saying like having that thought process
like if you miss a shot, keep shooting, you know
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it's the next shot you get on a roll boom,
and now the shooter is on.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
But it's like everybody it's like shot.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Selections to me seem so poor anymore. Like I felt
like if Minnesota would have worked from the inside out
and instead of just like this whole embracing of the
outside and sometimes in I think they I mean, they
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would have been in better position to be able to
win that game. And I ultimately would say that same
thing for Oka See. It was just a lot of
poor shooting. But the one thing that I think set
Okay see apart from from Minnesota is their defense. Yeah,
and you know, I know we've talked about their defense.
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That's been the staple of this team. Uh, their defense
has is what carried them through that game last evening.
I still think it's going to be a really good series.
I just felt like that was a a tad bit
of a letdown of a game one. It was so
non like to me, I felt no excitement from it.
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I felt no electricity from it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's just seemed actually, and I hate to say it,
because two really good teams. I was bored watching it.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It was like a struggle to watch it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So like just watching it was like I assumed, like
I can understand, Hey, listen, you know, Denver just played
a seven game series. I kind of get them maybe
starting off Minnesota series, Minnesota looked like they just played
a seventy game series at times. It just it was
not the prettiest basketball game of the world last night.
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So for those who were able to stick around and
watch to the end and go through it all, and
for our friends listening on the Yalla Horn of the
Twin Cities Cafan, it's just one game. It is just
one game. I am a big fan though, and I'll
I love Nasriet. I love him because it's he just
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has this approach where it's like, I'm gonna shoot threes.
I'm gonna shoot threes constantly. I'm going to have a
disinterested look in my body language while I'm shooting the three.
If it goes in sweet, if not, whatever, we'll get
him next time. And I'm just gonna keep shooting like
his feet don't leave the ground and he just he
just chucks it up. He doesn't make one last night,
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he was He was also shot poorly. But it's just
the whole idea that hey, listen, man, shoot your way
out of it. Okay, if you're struggling to find your shot,
just keep shooting your way out of it and eventually
one of.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
These Your way out of it doesn't mean shoot your
way out of bad shooting, shoot you out of winning
the game.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just keep going.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's crazy, you know what.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know what else I took away from yesterday's game
is Hartenstein and home Grin are like playing a series
without ankle weights and a weighted vest. Right, you go
through an entire series where you gotta deal with with
Jokic and you're dealing with the best in the business,
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and now you gotta deal with Nasried and Rudy Gobert.
Like I saw Hartenstein out there looking like a dude
in a candy store, just happy as hell.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I saw homegron out there.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They just did There's nothing about Oka c or excuse me,
there's nothing about the the the bigs of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
That's scare the ok See Thunder.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I had I had, I had the Timberwolves. I had
the Timberwolves being way more competitive than this. I hope
it gets better. You know, this is those those moments
in time where you establish yourself. Like everybody is so
high on Anthony Edwards. You know, there's so much fan
fear surrounding him, electric personality, an electric game, but he
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wasn't good yesterday, and he wasn't He certainly was far
from good enough for the Timberwolves to be a more
competitive team. I didn't feel like it was a competitive game. Honestly.
I thought it was close at times, it just didn't
feel competitive. It's like they couldn't crack the code of
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Okase's defense. They weren't quick enough to get to the rim,
but yet they weren't making the long balls either. It
was close, but just never felt close. So I don't know,
and it's got to step up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It kind of looked like, was it the elimination game.
I think it might have been the closeout game against
the Lakers where the Lakers did not look good. Minnesota
had every opportunity to just run them off the court.
They ended up beating them and advancing and everything was fine,
but you looked at it, You're like, God, this game
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shouldn't be that close. And it kind of felt like
that through the first half of that game last night,
to where it was like, man, if Minnesota could just
hit a couple of more shots, if they could hit
you know, this is this lead? Would would you know
I'm not going to say it's out of reach, but
they could have extended the lead and felt a lot
more comfortable about things. And then you go to the half,
you're only up four, and then the second half the
defensive Okac kicked in, they still couldn't hit shots. SGA
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found his rhythm and then they were off and running. Now,
you mentioned SGA talking or the Denver Nuggets and the
difference between them and the Minnesota Timberwolves for the thunder,
and SGA spoke about that difference with the media afterwards.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Did you feel that at all during the game that
you have to remind yourself, Oh, this isn't Denver anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It felt different from jump They're more like pressure oriented.
It feels like a little more physical. But at the
end of the night, it's basketball. They throw you a
problem and you have to solve it whatever it looks like.
And that's what it is every night, and that's that's
what it was tonight. They had different coverages, different personnel
out there, and we have to attack it and and
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work together as a unit to solve the problems out there.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
And we did that.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
So that was cerebral.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, very I mean, listen, you know, it's an exhaust
it's an exhausting game. He has where he uh, you know,
if his shot doesn't go, he throws himself on the
floor and hopes for a foulcohol. I mean, that's that's
got to be exhausting.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That's what you're going hitting with me.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Come on, man, at something.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think for s g A that's one hundred percent
the logic, and it's a proper logic. I think for
Hartenstein and and home Grin and and Williams, I think
it's very different. It's a very different series for them.
Rudy Gobert is not going to present the same problems
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in the same issues that they dealt with with Denver
and with Jokic. No, there's no team where they're going
to deal with that down low. And the physicality of
what Jokic brings I think is maybe understated sometimes. I mean,
he will shoulder you, he will body you to get
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positioned to make the plays that he's able to make
so consistently, whether it's scoring points, whether it's rebounding, whether
it's getting you know, a good pass off. Jokic does
a tremendously amazing job of how he positions himself to
create spacing to have a triple threat, you know, which
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is to be able to shoot, you know, drive to
go shoot, shoot from where he's at, or to be
able to pass it. And they're not going to experience
that against Minnesota. There's no bigs that present the issues
that Jokic presented, not to mention what you had to
deal with with Aaron Gordon and leading up until he
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you know, was too sore to be more effective than
what he was. I think I think Denver was probably
the biggest, which I felt like would be maybe a drawback,
but now that the way I saw they played last
night could be a tremendous catalyst for them. They looked
like a championship team last night, even though I didn't
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like their shots selections.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, if if the.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Shots aren't going down for you the way that you
need them to go down, and you got to have
something that that evens and balances everything out, and their
defense did. Their defense kept them close, kept them in
the game until they were able to make some plays,
make some shots and pull themselves into the to the
lead of the game. So, you know, I like Wesgas saying,
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but I also would say that you know what. It
might not have been as physical in the Denver series
as it was in this one for for SGA, but
I will certainly say it was a hell of a road,
a hell of a hill to take over, a mountain
to climb if you were big in that Denver game
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playing for the Oklahoma Thunder.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You know what I've wondered. So, if you drive, you know,
like NASCAR, or if you're an indie car eracer and
you're used to driving fast when you drive on the
streets in your car, do you just have this habit
of you just resort to driving fast constantly because that's
what you do for a living. And I wonder the
same thing about SGA, Like when he goes home, if
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he bumps into the coffee table, did he just throw
himself on the ground because that's what he doesn't work?
Like how does that?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
How does that happen? If he drops his toothbrush? Is
he looking around for a whistle?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, can I get a call here?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
How does that work? Because it's a bit much and
it feels like Anthony Edwards is less Anthony Edwards. It
feels like Anthony Edwards is at some point in this
series going.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To get fed up with it flopping that home.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Anthony Edwards strikes me as an old school type player.
It's why we love him. And I just wonder at
some point if there's going to be some sort of
an interet. I think he threw the ball out him
at one point last night, and I just want I
just wonder who's going to get fed up with it
to the point to where there's a scene and some
sort of I don't know if retaliation would be in order,
but if there's something that's not about it, because it
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is it is pretty I think.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
There's a it doesn't come across as like what we're
going to see with Indiana and New York. I think
that could have the potential of being chippy, just because
of the history between the two franchises. But I don't
see there being malice between these guys. I think they're
just there's a bunch of young dudes out there trying
to get it in. Few few sprinkled in older dude,
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but not crazy old. I don't see that being an issue,
to be honest. I mean, guys flop, It's just a
normal thing, man. And listen, they they played the Lakers,
they played the flopper of all floppers man and.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh Lebron flops.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh jesus, he's a flopper.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How could you No, it's not It's not me insulting him.
I mean, it's just a part of his game that's
in his toolboxes to flop and and it. You know,
sometimes it works out into your favor because you get
calls and different things like that could impact the game,
could slow the pace down, the tempo down, could any
any given thing. When you're flopping, you're trying, You're trying
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to get a call, You're trying to get a competitive advantage.
You know, some people hate it. I don't like it
per se particularly, but I understand what flopping represents.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Remember how much heat Mahomes got for it during.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That Quarterback flopping is different. Why Because I played football
and I hit quarterbacks for a living. So it's a
little different when quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If you're really gonna go down violently, can I hit
you violently so I can get my money's worth out
of this. If I'm gonna if we're gonna get fifteen yards,
can I at least get my money's worth out of this?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I think every most charges Jonas or flops if we're
being honest, if you're taking a charge.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I remember in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
High school I was I was so strong and I
played basketball. I was so strong that when I would
be in position to take a charge, cover myself up
with my hands, brace myself for the blow, and the
dudes would would drive and run into me. But they
would fall and I was still standing there like it
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was a pick and I would get the foul. I
just didn't. I was too afraid to just let myself flop.
You're supposed to. You're taught in practice when somebody runs
into you or bumps into you, when you're set up,
like you have your feet set and everything is set
playing defense, to to flop down. That's what you're That's
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what coaches teach you in practice, is to flop down
onto the ground. That's most charges, if you were to
really identify or to study, most charges, their flops. So
and for what it's worth, when you're getting charging fouls,
more often than not, the guy is flopping. So it
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is what it is. I'm not I'm not offended by it.
I think it's more entertaining more than anything else. When
you see a blatant flop, I don't like it, but
I don't have a problem with it, So sang and
to that point, just give I'm giving, okay, see their
their credit. They played a game where both teams, again
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I felt shot poorly or had very very poor shot selection.
And yet it was their defense, which I'm a defensive guy.
It was their defense that I made the difference, and
I just I'm curious, will it be the defense that
ultimately is the undoing of the Timberwolves, or can they
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get hot or will they be more aggressive trying to
get to the hole. Maybe they weren't able to get
to the whole Jonas. Maybe I'm sitting here thinking to myself, like, man,
they you gotta again, you gotta you gotta access the key.
You gotta show them that you can make ball, you
can make plays and score points. Slashing and getting to
the whole easy mid range jump shots too, to closer
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jump shots in and work your way out. You know,
you get a couple threes here and there. If you miss,
it's not a big deal because it's only a couple.
But if your if your shots are all from from outside,
if you're shooting from around the perimeter, just inside the perimeter,
is you know, you're going to live and die by
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that ball, and that's what happened with Minnesota last night.
So it'd be interesting to see what game two looks
like like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
If they're at a at a restaurant in Oklahoma City
and on the other side of the restaurant a waiter
drops a tray. Does SGA throw himself on the ground
as well, too?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Do you think? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I think if the waiter is going through the tables
and SGA were happening to get up to go to
like the restroom or to the bar or something like that,
and he like kind of you know, like brushed brushed
up on him, that's fair. I think he would flop
back into the booth or or to the floor.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Correct, like like like you know, like there and get
a callyeah the way I would agree.
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, I do know this at one place, but
you know where there's not going to be uh collisions
like that is in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
When it comes to.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Flag football, well now and now we are going to
get to see potentially some NFL players be a part
of it. They voted on it yesterday at the owners meetings,
and Roger Goodell discussed the fact that it was a
unanimous yes to allowing and opening the door to allowing
NFL players to participate in flag football at the Olympics.
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Here in twenty twenty eight, here was the commission.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I think this is news, represents a great opportunity for
the sport, for the NFL, It's truly the next step
in making NFL football and football a global sport for
men and women of all ages and all opportunities across
the globe. We think that's the right thing to do,
and this is a big step.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
In accomplishing that.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
For our players, we think it's a tremendous opportunity for
them to represent their country, to compete for a gold medal,
which is a pinnacle of global sports. It's something that
I think all professional athletes, and we have two here
today that'll speak to this that across many different sports,
the opportunity to play for your country and to win
a gold medal or any metal is a wonderful and
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an honor to be able to do so.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I like the fact, do you think there would be
fallout if they said, no, we don't, we don't want you,
we don't want our players to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, I wondered. So what I guess I was a
little bit surprised by is the fact that it was
unanimously voted thirty two. Nothing like, yeah, we'll let our
players participate, because I could understand an owner being like, man,
we're paying all these guys all this money, Like there's
no just because it's non contact doesn't mean there's not
going to be injuries, like a guy could turn left,
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turn right, you know, and trying to ask it, Yeah,
and now you know, my multi million dollar investment is
down the drain and he can't participate in the season.
And there's they still need to figure out logistically how
this could work because it's gonna the Olympics. You know,
if it's in the first week, it would still allow
them time to report to camp at that point, but
if it's in the second week, it might cut into
their training camp time with their team. So there's still
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things that they've got to sort through. So I was
a little surprised that owners didn't have more pushback and
it was unanimously voted yes. But I also look at
it and I go just from an Olympic standpoint, and
I'll be honest, no offense, Probably sixty percent of the
events at the Olympics I couldn't care less about at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, I care about Will you care about flag? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And especially if you know and like Justin Jefferson wants
to be a part of it, Tyreek Hill, Like these
are recognizable names, like a lot of a lot of
Olympic athletes. You may not know big picture because some
of those sports don't get the coverage that the Big
four get, you know, NFL, college football, NBA, Major League Baseball, NHL.
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They don't get the coverage of those sports get. So
when you get to see them, you're kind of like, oh,
you start to get to know these athletes during a
two week window. But if you know, going into it, oh,
Tyreek Hills on the US flag football team, I want
to see that. I would love to see it. And
so you're bringing recognizable names to the Olympics. And I
actually think it does a lot more for the Olympics
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maybe than it does for the NFL, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
With you, I mean, is it safe to say the
reason why it's not break dancing, it's it's flag football
that's the sport of choice for the Olympics coming to
America is because of the influence of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Would that be safe to say, Oh, yeah, yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Would it be safe to say that this whole tremendously
large movement and campaign of flag football, of women in
flag football, women in football, based off of flag football,
that push and that that exposure and marketing to the
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masses is generated from the National Football League? Will we
say that that's accurate?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
If that is the case, if that is truly indeed
the case, and you follow the money, you always got
to follow the money. How much money, how many resources
are being dedicated to the buildout and the growth of
flag football. And I made this point every single time
we brought up flag football during our conversations that in
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order to combat what I just talked about, which is
the irony of me talking about my headache, in order
to combat.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
All of the fallout all of the fear moms are scared.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
To allow their kids to play football, tackle football, I
would say probably moms more so than dads, even though
a lot of dads don't want their kids playing football
until they get older, you know, based off of them
looking at what they believe the studies to be and
the brain developing and all those things. Flag football has
been what I believe the sport that they you know,
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people have settled in on football enthusiasts have settled in
on as a happy medium. So it's almost like this
is the training wheels before you take the training wheels
off of the bike, and the kids understand how football
works and the mechanics of it plays different things, the
functionality of football before you get into the contact and
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the physical aspects of the sport itself. And if that's
what you're doing, if you're championing flag football as a
starting starting point for youth, but also as a competitive
sport for women, right a competitive aspect for older people,
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older generations because older people will play flag football as well,
then it almost to me would be counterproductive. It totally
undercuts it. It totally waters down what you have represented
in trying to turn the sport, the game of flag
football into a respected not only nationally but international game
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to play. It's much cheaper to field a flag football
team than it is to field a tackle football team.
The resources needed are very different. So if you're trying
to expand the sport of football, and flag football is
one of the avenues that you're using to spread that
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message and spread that word. Even though it is not
tackle football, it still is a version of football. And
if it's being supported, which it is being supported and
financed by NFL, the NFL in a large part, then
you have no choice in this. In this situation, really,
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the fallout I think would be crazy. I think the
impact of the owners voting no would be amazing, the
amount of scrutiny that they would open themselves up to
if they did not vote yes for guys to be
able to compete for a medal playing flag football.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's like, how hypocritical.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Would that be to not allow the players to have
the opportunity to compete for a gold medal playing flag football.
So I think that there wasn't very much of an
opportunity or a chance for the owners to actually vote
no against this anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I wonder at one point, because like you do have
varying degrees of interest, like justin Jefferson, as we mentioned
he said, you know, would love an opportunity to compete
for the gold et cetera. Then you've got aj Brown
who was like, I'm not interested. You know, I need
to get ready for the season. You've got you know,
people the organ of Flag Football have said, look, there
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is going to be hopefully some NFL players involved in this,
but there are specialists in flag football that have been
groomed for this opportunity, and so you're going to have
a mixture of that along with some NFL players. But
I do wonder at one point, is an NFL player,
you know, gonna get frustrated about something that happens in
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the game and just lower his shoulder just to send
a message.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, all right, so let us show you what the
real football looks like. And I do wonder what that
sort of dynamic is going to be. But it's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Be sick. It would be sick if there was a
team somewhere around the world.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That their sole expertise is playing flag football and they
were actually able to beat Americans, that s would be wowed.
Could you imagine if you're like, yeah, there's somewhere in
a region where a basketball team could actually beat the
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USA in basketball, like you'd be like, dang, like seems improbable.
But you know now, it's more believable to think you
know so many international players. But I'll say this, bru,
there are if you look at the names that are
out there, like I'll say this, you better be happy
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that Hawaii is considered a US state. It's one of
the states. You better be happy that that Samoans and
Tonguans and Polynesians are considered Americans. You better be happy
about that. You gotta be concerned about Africans. I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You gotta be concerned about Africans.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
There would be a place, and I would tell you
I'm gonna give you another one.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Imagine that gold medal game and the soud Ann is
a ten point favorite over the US.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That would be the Sudan. It would be Nigeria. Actually
it would be Nigerian's.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But what would be crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I'll tell you what would be crazy is they play
some hell of five flag football in Mexico. Bro Mexicans
know how to play some flag football. It would just
be wild if you saw but within the rules that
you're able to utilize that there was actually a team
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that's so there. It's like probably a club team out
there that that's all they do.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Jonas, I like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's it's feasible to think that a team could I
guess strategically be good enough to be able to beat
an American All Star team of NFL professionals brought together.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean it is a different game.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's different. It's not different.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So there is I mean, there is going to have
to be some guys that have specialized in flag football
that are going to be part of it, and they
might end up being the best players. Like they're not
going to be this.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
They might end up being the best players, but strategically speaking,
within the parameters of what flag football represents, they might
have a more competitive advantage over anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
By the way you mentioned Mexico, this does open up
the door to, uh, you know, reignite another rivalry in
a different sport, because the Mexican US soccer team rivalry
is a real deal, and uh, the Mexican fans have
been known to you know, urinate in bottles and throw
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it at the American players if they get close. So
I'm not saying, well, for.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What it's worth, don't make that a Mexican thing because
that has happened with American players too.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
But I would encourage Philly games.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I just I would encourage opposing bands maybe not to
take that approach, because these are NFL players you're dealing
with from time to two.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
What does that mean? Well, you know it was malice
in the paddles.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Maybe maybe they might find them their way up into
the crowd.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
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Speaker 2 (29:28):
We've got traditions to a pold here on this show,
and one Wednesday tradition that will not go by by
anytime soon is the one and only Petros Papadakis. He
is the co host of The Petroffs and Money Show.
But you can hear on the Blowtorch A five seventy
l a Sports Fox college football analyst and our good
buddy Pete. What's happening.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'm not much just here in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm like match, Oh, I like Brady.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
I mean I don't understand, Like if my stuff doesn't work,
I go crazy and like I would desperately find some
other way.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You know, what happened? Where is he?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Uh, you're can you walk into you walk us through
what happened here?
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Oh, I would prefer not to.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
But yeah, we were using, of course, you would certain
kind of uh technology that just wasn't fitting in the
city of the comras.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Say you talking to Petros right now, So this is
going to be very interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Well, not that anybody unit, not that anybody who's listening
understands what we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
But he didn't have his comrades.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Special it's it's something you buy that turns a phone
line into a radio line.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Yes, yes, and com rexes are great.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Unfortunately Ethernet they're very hard to find these days.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Unfortunately, where he was staying was not compatible with a comrex,
So we were using a Lucy app uh and the
Lucy just was not working where he was staying.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
We call the hotel in advance to find out if
they were friendly.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To do radio.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Oh yes, we did, of course, perhaps a separate room
with an Ethernet cable.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Perhaps a studio that that was all Fox Fox Radio Studio,
iHeartMedia Studio.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You know you know, like what we did in Houston.
You know, I don't know, you know, you just know.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
No, I'm just saying, you know, these things have happened
to me in the past. Yeah, and very very very
very triggering to everybody.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Well, you can't get on the air. It's a great frustration. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
So it's like there's a great Greek saying about impotence
that that applies. It's called now that the now that
the ocean has turned to yogurt.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I've lost my spoon.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
I don't understand that one.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I like that, maybe you should think hard.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
How could you not understand that?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
And Lee sit it out loud before he thought about it, which.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Is back up two steps and rub your temples.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
All right. So I'm here.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well, I wanted I wanted to ask you about this
because I mean, it's a whole.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Notre Ames thing. And Brady's playing a slot at the
Golden Nugget.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, and look, I don't know if he's doing double
dolphins right now or if he found another machine that
works better.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
But I was curious to know what double dolphins one of.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The great slot machines in the history of age.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
You know, the themes of the slot machines have changed
so much. Yeah, you know they used to be just
like super racial with like a giant, like Fu Manchu
looking guy.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They still have those, yeah they do.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
But now it's like the Ellen Show. I don't want
to play a slot with the weird ass Ellen Show.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
What are they gonna do?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Put me in a cult an NFL slot machine now too,
don't bet it like an NFL theme one that makes sense.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Pet I was wondering because I sloted Antonio Brown shoots
at you.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
What bang bang? And if you could get like an
empty clip, you won, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Like like you land on five hundred on the wheel
and Tyreek Hill get you pregnant's great?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Oh wow, and your jackpot is like like coins, they
represent the babies coming.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Out massage without accusation.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, wheel of Watson's Great.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Wheel of rope, Bounty of buttker.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So Petro's I did speaking of the NFL. Jim Harbaugh's
a huge Petro's papadakas fan. I mean, he would you
talk about ball washing like he's a huge fan. So
what is the the backstory? Because you guys, I haven't
heard him. I haven't heard him speak as highly of
(34:04):
someone and celebrate someone like he has of you other
than justin Herbert a year ago. You know what, what's
the backstory there?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
You know what I said after talk to Harbaugh?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
No needed it?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Well, he would always need it. I watch a lot
of sack when anybody comes on the show, we show
a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It was awesome to hear.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Though I've had a lot of I've had a lot
of different run ins or interactions over the years with
with coach Harbough and I'm sure I've talked to you
guys about it, But sometimes I see him and we
don't have the same kind of interaction, you know what
I mean. But every maybe two or three times we
(34:51):
talk about the old times and go down a road
like that. I met him when he was at usd SO,
and then I called uh lot of.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Those games when he was building Stanford up.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
And then when I was training to Marco Murray for
that one season we even went to the Big House
and called a game out there before he just took
over and had that dominant couple seasons.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
So I know him in that regard.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
I watched him build Stanford football up, which was a
modern day football miracle. It really was what he did
at Stanford. How he did it at Stanford is the
stuff that people will talk about for a long time,
not just Stanford types. So I think it reminds him
of a time that maybe was a little more simple,
(35:37):
or a time when he was coming up. Has had
a young family and all that, so maybe that's why.
But yeah, I always love seeing Jim Harbaugh. It's always
interesting to talk to him, and he's he's I mean,
there's a lot of great characters in football, and there's
a lot of great characters who have had a lot
of success, and he's probably at the top of that list.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Can I and started to interrupt bar, but I just
want to ask this when you mentioned the Stanford stuff,
what was it about that turnaround that felt different from
maybe others that we've seen or.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
Other Well, I mean, if you have familiar with Stanford football,
I mean, they just wouldn't have guys like Richard Sherman
on the team. They just wouldn't be able to get
him in. I'm sure Richard had really good grades and
all that, but maybe he's not the best example, but
to me, he's a shining example. He started out as
(36:32):
a receiver there and they ended up moving him to
corner and ultimately that's kind of Stanford's problem. I mean,
they can recruit, they have the toughest they have the
toughest admissions process of any active FBS college football entity,
meaning you really can't get anybody in there. They can
(36:54):
get and they can get tight ends, they can get
O line, they can get quarterbacks, get linebackers, running backs, fullbacks,
they have wide receivers, no problem. They have trouble getting
corners and a little bit like BYU, they have some
trouble with D line and that's kind of been the
(37:15):
longtime rub on recruiting there. They just can't get a
lot of these guys in. When I was younger, they
had Nigerian guys, a bunch of them, because those are
the type of guys they could get in. They had
Babatunde Oshinowo, remember oj Atagway, Levartway. Yeah, sat Louis ram
(37:35):
I think loved him as a player. So Harbaugh came
and he had he had some kind of experience at Stanford.
He was raised for part of his life in Palo Alto.
His father had coached there, and he understood the place
and it is really one of the most foreign places
(37:55):
that plays big time college football. It makes Duke and
vander Built and Northwestern look like Michigan football. I mean,
that's how odd Stanford football is.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
And it really is. It's just a it's not for everybody.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
And I went to his very first camp at Stanford
and watch them doing drills that you wouldn't do with
a high school football team because you'd get people hurt.
And watching him turn the team into what they called
the whole intellectual brutality thing and make it like they
(38:32):
were bring back the power play in football, block down,
kick out, lead, the fullback through kind of thing. This
was unprecedented and to do it at Stanford and run
USC basically run Pete Carroll out of the Pac ten
at the time by putting fifty five on him in
(38:53):
the coliseum I think in two thousand and nine, where
they didn't even want to, I mean they wouldn't. They
stopped tackling the power play us he gave up and
a Pete Carroll coach defense on the floor of the coliseum.
And the next year Pete Carroll was gone, and that
was the what's your deal game? What's your rEFInd deal?
(39:14):
And you know, why'd you go for two? Because I
couldn't go for three? You know, it was it was
so so that's that's kind of the crux of our
relationship there, and I recognized it. I loved Toby Gerhart,
I loved Owen Marie Sick. Yeah, I would love that player.
Watched them play in high school. Owen Mari Sick. They
(39:35):
had a fullback who went both ways. They had all
those great tight ends like Fleener and you know, go
on and on and they had They were just fun
to watch so h and it was interesting to watch
them do battle with USC and their time and the
Chip Kelly Oregon teams. It's a great time in the
in the Pac ten conference. So I think that our
(39:58):
memories go back to that. Sorry if it's log answer, No,
it's good.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
No, it's perfect. You know it's radio.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
You're right. You know.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I find myself in real life, Like somebody asked me
a question, can I start from like Genesis?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You know in the beginning? God, you know, they're like
you got that.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
It's like after five minutes, I realized, like, look, in
real life, you know, it's my job to fill time.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I should really wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You know, you gotta paint the picture. You know, I
get it. Yeah, you know, lazy, lazy people do TV.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You know people who want to work, they do radio
because you got to paint the whole TV.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Is good because you can get real hot take on
these days.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Oh yeah, you got to say something super quick, like
talk about somebody's girlfriend. Yeah, how important are they talk
about somebody's wife?
Speaker 6 (40:45):
How what race is your wife? What?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
What what raises your wife? You know this talk about it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
It's just funny that it took so long for people
to bring up the other side of the coin on
talking about racial relations.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
That's why you got a baby with a white woman.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
There you go, you know, there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There's always a way to have a comeback in these
types of medium forms.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
If you got a white bastard, run.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
God.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
If I die, then my child will be a bastard,
which is not accurate by Scarface and the Ghetto Boys
song my mind. He says, if I die, then my
child will be a bastard. And that's not the case.
If your child was born out of wedlock, that he's
a bastard whether you're alive or not.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But I don't believe the start definition of it.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Yeah, and I do not believe that Scarface has any
bastards looking at it look.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
From the ghetto.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I just know that he never did any rhymes that
had another rapper come out and have to say I
did some digging and saw that. Well that's that's what
you have going on. But hey, to each his own.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I don't see you sitting alone in your four cornered
room staring at candles.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, my mind's playing tricks on me.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
You know, my favorite mind is playing tricks on me.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Is the guy?
Speaker 8 (42:13):
The guy I don't think he made it as long
as the band the Ghetto Boys got the second verse guy,
the guy that goes funny. I d everybody know me, like,
I'm a stupid what movie star?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I thought he had kine but it was gold and
but something right, He's stupid, dude.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Do you uh, who do you think out of the
l A team since we were you know, so heavy
on horrball? Which McVeigh or harball? Which one has the
better season this year? The Rams or or the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
That's a great question, you know.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Uh, the Chargers had such a great turnaround and then
they performed in the playoffs kind of like they had
the previous years, which was shocking, I think to people
who support them, I love Justin Herbert and I want
to see him thrive. I think he's a great kid
and a really impressive player. And I saw him in
(43:17):
college and he's one of those guys who are like, yeah,
I could see that guy being really good in the NFL.
He's six six and he can move and he throws
the ball beautifully. He's got a great attitude. So it's
good to know that, you know, you feel right about
a quarterback. Every once in a while, they actually end
up being pretty good. Mcveigh's really great.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
You know.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
It's hard. He's really annoying to me. Listening to him
talk is like going to Tony Robbins seminar. But he's
a great coach. He understands offense, he's a great play caller.
At that level, you can have a guy who's calling
plays as the head coach and still actually win championships.
(43:58):
I don't think it's ever happened in college football, maybe
not since Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
But you got McVeigh.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Calling his own plays, You got Andy Reid calling his
own plays, and they're the best of the best. He's
right up there with those guys and a very exciting coach.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
His hair's all gelled up. It's annoying.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
Listening to him talk is annoying, but you cannot argue
with what they've done. Who has a better season? Gosh,
I hope it's the Chargers, just because I'm associated with him,
and my radio partner gets so mad if they lose that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Uh oh.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Does Matt take it to heart when they lose?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
I believe he takes it a little personal.
Speaker 8 (44:42):
You know, when you're with the team and you're on
the plane, you know you want him to win, because
everybody's sad if they're you know what I'm saying, So
then you become emotionally involved. I signed everybody, not everybody,
you know me, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
It'd be a lot of loud ass laughers on losing play.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Ain't Sometime then there's that one guy that stands up
and goes, why I laughing? We we had some set
tripping on some players if they were too if the
flight was too long.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
We'd have some guys get punched in the head.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Every once in a while, Yeah, is that John Rob.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Somebody can just go too far.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Jonas touched on the Notre Dame USC thing.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's I brought up the idea of
like that transfer portal. Broh, It's like it's up there
for USC, like people are getting the hell out of Dodge.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Seemingly it looks like at USC.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Well, let's what's going on, man, let's discuss at LeVar.
Speaker 8 (45:48):
I mean, what's the butt Like, you're a Penn State guy,
You're a Penn State legend. Obviously you have great feulings
about Penn State and you're well, you know that your
son's playing there. I mean, you're one of the greatest
defenders that ever put on that uniform, which is saying
a lot because there's a lot of people that have
worn that uniform. So what is the buzz about Penn
State this this off season? Uh, it's that that quarterbacks coming.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Back, right, Yeah, and the running backs are coming back.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
And they're going to compete again for a Big Ten title, right.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
And possibly national Right?
Speaker 6 (46:21):
So what is the buzz? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:23):
And if you can, if you're going to win the
Big Ten title, Uh, you know obviously you're going to
be involved in that too.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
What is the buzz about my alma mater. This off
they're just in the world.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Oh that Uh, they don't want to play. It seems
like they don't want to play Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Right, that's the conversations.
Speaker 8 (46:46):
The buzz is that like the positive buzz, because because
we don't want to play Notre Dame or posturing.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
In that way is not positive in my opinion.
Speaker 8 (46:54):
The positive buzz is that they have hired a GM
who is securing verbals for a freshman class in twenty
twenty six Oka. That is the but there nobody is
talking about the quarterback they have my AVA because they
I don't know why they would. Nobody's talking about who's
(47:15):
coming in or who's coming out for twenty twenty five.
USC's buzz this offseason is exactly what you said. We're
trying to wriggle out a Notre Dame and hey, look
at this recruiting class that may or may not show
up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
That is disgusting and sad.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
I don't care what Colin Cowherd, who went to Eastern
Washington thinks about what us he should do because he
went to a couple rich guy, wealthy USC parties when
he lived.
Speaker 6 (47:46):
In Manhattan Beach and now lives in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
I don't need anybody from outside the USC world, grounded
in the USC traditions to tell me what USC he
should or shouldn't be doing. Don't want to hear about
how the backyard Brawl isn't played anymore, or Bedlam or
Texas Texas A and M went away or Oklahoma Nebraska
(48:10):
USC Notre Dame has been played for one hundred plus years.
The only time they ever took off was World War Two.
It has nothing to do with conference realignment, which is
why that's not an argument. If US is too soft
that a new Big Ten schedule makes it so they
can't play Notre Dame, then maybe they should leave the
(48:33):
Big Ten for God's sakes. And here's another question or
statement from me. If you can't beat Maryland or Minnesota,
the hell are you worried about who's on your schedule? Anyway,
you ain't competing for a national championship. You're not competing
for a Big Ten championship. And if you're scared a
(48:53):
Notre Dame, you can't compete for a national championship either.
None of these things make any sense. And if it's
Lincoln Riley, who's behind it, and it seems like it
the only reason he's still there is because of his
huge buyout. Here's a coach that's not embraced US. He's
traditions at all, has been beyond disappointing ever since his
(49:18):
first year. And let's not forget him. Their first year
they lost the Cotton Bowl to Tulane with Caleb Williams
at quarterback healthy. So what are we looking at. We're
looking at a guy who doesn't want to be at SC,
or at least doesn't want to be at SC the
way US he is, who's not doing well. And this
guy gets to say whether or not or has an
influence on whether or not US he plays this giant
(49:42):
hard schedule or not, or against Notre Dame that they've
done for one hundred years. You have no say in it.
Who cares what Lincoln Riley says. If it wasn't for
his buyout, he'd be gone. He should be gone anyway.
So that's an interesting part of it. But ultimately I
do think US he's just posturing. I think they'll sign
for twenty twenty six, they'll wait to see what the
(50:05):
college football playoff expansion is. But if you're USC, wouldn't
you rather have Notre Dame on your resume as opposed
to Georgia Southern or something.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
So at the end of the even if you lose,
you're going it's a good you know, it's right, it's
just for business.
Speaker 8 (50:21):
It's the most bits made thing I've ever heard in
my life. And no one and like when USC lost
like thirteen straight years or didn't win for thirteen straight
years when I was a kid, it was very frustrating,
but nobody sat there and said, well, we shouldn't play anymore,
we can't beat these guys. Or when Pete Carroll was dominating, imagine,
imagine those days.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
We still got to do Ohio State, still got to
do Michigan. That be right, And that's I don't run
away from it. Well, that's what you try to figure
it out. That's who you are. That's what you know.
I mean, you're USC football. You're supposed to be a
blue blood. You don't remain a blue blood by saying, well,
we don't want to play Notre Dame anymore, We got
to play Rutgers. Shut your effing mouth, like I just
(51:02):
I cannot, I cannot believe it.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
But I do think, uh, you know, when there's more
playoff expansion, they'll probably sign a longer deal, but if
they miss one year, it's a travesty. And I don't
want to hear Colin Kawer and tell me about what
modern college football is like and how you can go
buy a high school player and it's not like it
used to be. That has nothing to do with us.
He playing Notre Dame. And if you you should never
(51:27):
even talk about USC football if you don't understand what
the rivalry is and why it should remain.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Like it just at some point, if you don't have
at least a little tradition, then what is it like
it's basic.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Yeah, let's just change the colors.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Look.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I like Mike Gundy, but Mike gundy stance on, well,
you know we're not playing Bedlam anymore because of them.
It's like, No, you probably could have figured out a
way to make that still work, but that's it feels
like it was petty, And it just feels like if
you start eliminating the traditions, like I'm willing to acknowledge, Hey,
things have changed and expanded, playoff, the transfer portal, nil,
all that part.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
But if you guys, if you leave a conference and
then okay, there's a conversation to be had. But USC
and Notre Dame have never been in the same conference.
That's what it's about. So none of these modern college
football stumbling blocks exist. They can play every year. That's
why Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants to play every year.
(52:24):
They should play every year. They've played every year other
than World War Two. This ain't I know, the transfer
portal and nil, and we're in a crazy chaotic time
in college football, but I don't think it compares to
World War Two.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
We got to keep playing.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, it's true, it's odd, but Petros, we appreciate it
as always.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
It's not odd. It's soft and it's bitch man, damn
take that certain right, Like did.
Speaker 8 (52:52):
USC when they were when they were competing for a
title where you would lose one game in the BCS
era and it would be all over.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
Were they like, ah, gosh, you know, we're so good.
Speaker 8 (53:02):
We don't want to play Notre Dame anymore because it
might hurt us, right, shut up? Like if you don't
want to play Notre Dame, go play at Fresno. Like,
shut up, anyway, go to Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, go to Hawaii, all right?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Playing Yeah, get him on ex at the old p.
He is Petros Papadegas, the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch
AM five seventy l A Sports Fox College Football analysts
and our good buddy Petros. Thank you, we'll do it
again next week. There he is, the great Petros Papadegas.
(53:39):
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