June 2, 2025 • 46 mins
Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Pacers make short work of the Knicks who blew their wad after beating the Celtics in the quarterfinals. The NFL is reportedly looking into creating a division in Europe, but that might be a step too far. And The Patriots cutting Stefon Diggs is a real possibility after Tusi-Gate.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Labar Aarings and Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on
Boors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And we start things off on this Monday. Well they're
back with congres. Don't want to do a recap Lorena
and Lee being back for where were they their vacation?
There you go, she had it all cute ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hey, hey, how was the How was it there at
Drug addict University?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The three of them in there? Right there with them?
There they go, there's the Canada crew right there. Oh
man Neveland, two belonged. One just was a freeloader. Hey,
how was methcouver keep it in just great? Oh oh,
I mean there's no denying of what the reports are
(00:59):
if they're true. He was right at home. Oh yeah,
downtown Vancouver. You knew when you were getting close to
the hotel. Just follow the follow the lights, follow your people.
Huh Hey, I know you. Hey, hey, it's a de
lap disciple.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Anyboddybody by the way, Can I tell you something I
saw coming in this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
There was a guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
There was a guy walking on the freeway with one
of those headlights on, you know, like the things you were,
and I thought, well, it might must be you know,
somebody working for Coltrans or doing some roadwork.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, just a pedestrian walking on the freeway, thinking about
thinking about ending. So just letting everything if we get
a news we get a news report, I'm just letting
everybody know here at headlight on.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But yeah, I don't know, I don't know if he was,
you know, trying to impersonate that Mountain lion and he
tried that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A couple of years ago. He didn't have it. He
didn't have a hit. It ran over though. Yeah, he
definitely did. So, Yeah they did, so did Burton. It was.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So congratulations are in order to the Indiana Pacers. The
NBA Finals start several days from now for some inexplicable reason.
But the Pacers and the Thunder is your NBA Finals matchup, which,
you know, it is kind of funny. All the time
spent talking about, you know, the Lakers, Lebron, all the
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major storylines that they try and churn out on ESPN,
you know, try and facilitate the talking points for the league,
and instead we're going to get Oklahoma City versus Indianapolis
in the NBA Finals. But there's an overwhelming sense that
this is okay C year. They're the overwhelming face on DraftKings.
I believe to win the series or a minus seven
(03:03):
hundred so seven to one favorite to win the series.
I think it's going to be much better than that.
And these really were the two best teams in the
playoffs from their respective conferences throughout the course of the playoffs,
and so it should be an entertaining, at least somewhat
interesting NBA Finals that we've got.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean, I felt like Denver could have possibly been
the better team, the best team out of the West.
I think that OKC was the most complete team. I
do believe that it's a different series if they're completely
healthy and the Nuggets that is. I just think Jokic
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showed you, like some amazingness And not to get off
on the tangent of speaking on Denver in Jokic, but
I think that that was going to be the hardest
challenge expected. It could have been the Timberwolves, but they
bowed down, they laid down, and they didn't have enough
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to deal with the depth of what you know, the
OKC thunder was bringing. But as far as in the East,
it's interesting to see how that all kind of panned out.
You know, the Knicks took care of of the Celtics, which,
by the way, I mean without obviously Jason Tatum, they
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were going to be in a different situation going moving forward.
And you know, just looking at the East and who
could have possibly came out of it, while you look
at the New York Knicks and you say, it's a
great market, wonderful market, the team has great history. A
lot of people were very excited. It would have been
a star studded event with the New York Knicks being
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in the championship round. Probably would have been great for basketball.
That wasn't the best team. That wasn't the team that
you wanted to represent the East and your finals. And
I apologized all the Knicks fans out there. It just wasn't.
It wasn't it wasn't going. It just was not going
to be it. They're missing they're missing something. Bruntsing dope,
(05:14):
dope dude. I think when they gave him adequate rest
and in Game four, it showed, it showed, uh or
game five?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Game five? Game four? What what was yesterday? Or six? Yet?
So game game five when they won Game five and
kept the series alive. They were able to rest bruntsing
and and Brunting down the stretch, was able to do
what he needed to do, and the bench did what
they were needing to do the game prior, they weren't
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able to do that, and Brunson got tired and you
saw it show late in the game. I feel like
the inconsistencies of what what you know Karl Anthony Towns
brings to the table makes it such a wild card
situation for the New York Knicks because if he's on,
you have a very formidable team. If he's off, it
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really is a tremendous drop off on what they're able
to bring to the table. But one thing you can
say about Indiana Pacers is that they play with such
great pace. They move very quickly up and down the court.
They play play stellar defense, and they have a bench
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where they can rotate in and out and stay fresh.
It sounds exactly like the OKC Thunder. So you're talking
about we're potentially I'll be interested to see are they
going to play at that fast sonic the hadgehog pace,
you know, up and down the court, hard defense like
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because if you go into half court sets if you
slow down the ball, which it would be interesting to
see if any of these teams decide to do that.
If you slow down the ball and you create these
half court sets, then you're giving the other team the
opportunity to get back and get in front of you
and play defense. And both of these teams can do
just that. So it'd be interesting to see will they
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will it be a fast pace where it's more offensively
driven with the speed of a post, a made shot,
post maade shot, or a rebound, and then the rebounding.
One of the major things I'll say you should look
for in this upcoming series is who's winning the rebound war,
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because if you're getting second opportunities at the cup, that's
going to be an issue for the pace, that's going
to be an issue for fast breaks, you know, those
types of points that come in bunches for both of
these teams. But if they're able to control the board,
like if on the defensive side for each team, so
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say ok c is on defense, if they're able to
get if it's a one shot, you get the rebound,
we're out letting. We're going same on the other side.
If if Indiana, you know they're playing defense. They forced
the shot, they missed the shot. Indiana gets the board.
They're getting out into transition very quickly. It should be
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a pretty entertaining game. It should be a pretty entertaining series.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
The Knicks celebration after advancing past the second round should
be looked at as one of the most pathetic things
in recent history by a fan base.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What a clown show. They said they're gonna lift a
banner up in Madison Square Garden pertained that knocked out
the Celtics on the playoffs, right, yeah, like that is
that tells you everything.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And I was making the point that I'll bet somewhere
in Madison Square, because all we keep hearing about is
all you know, it's the New York fan base, and
it's Madison Square Garden, and it's the mecca, and it's
blah blah blah. And if you just took like a
little file and you scraped away at an MSG logo,
there there's probably a ninety nine cent store logo somewhere underneath.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Nickel and Dime.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Nicks all the way running the streets, climbing stuff, celebrating
because they got past the second round and then you
saw them against the Pacers. They can say, well, you
know what, we should have won the first game.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You gag that game away, you lost the second one.
The series was a wrap there, Congratulations you got one
win in the Eastern Conference Finals at MSG. Other than that,
you look back on the celebration upon further review, completely ridiculous,
totally ridiculous. And I think there's like they have players
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like streets. I saw, like mckel bridges has a street
in by Madison Square Garden. The whole thing was preposterous.
And now that you see it upon and then the
stories come out that apparently they were not happy. People
within the Knicks weren't happy with Karl Anthony Towns and
you know his deficiencies on defense, et cetera. Except just
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the whole thing was so embellished and overblown, and for
some reason, nobody within the Knicks fan base who's actually
seen them do anything worthwhile like go to an NBA
finals or you know, lose, you know, a real playoff game,
or like nobody wanted to pull some of these younger
Nick fans aside and be like, hey, you realize we
(10:40):
got to win like two more series, right, Like you
gotta you do get that right.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
This isn't the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I don't know what, Hugh, I don't know what you
were you were looking at here, but this is not
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just the whole thing was laughable upon further review. I mean,
it probably felt good to knock off a team so
highly righted it and tout it coming into the playoffs.
I think if people were being real with themselves, they
would have said that the Celtics were most likely the
team that you would see representing the East. And it
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didn't happen that way. And the Knicks were the ones
to slay the dragon, and they were excited about it
so much so where they were heckling Indiana Pacer fans
and throwing trash on the fan. And I wonder if
that how that fan feels today, you know, I wonder
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what if he went out with, you know, trash bags
full of trash and was looking for New York Knick fans.
Clearly lived in New York, I'm assuming, so he was
getting getting harassed coming out of the game in New York.
So just so just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Like it's like when the Sacramento Kings hung a Summer
League banner up in the arena there at the arena
they play at it's like, are you seeing man? Like
I kind of have respect for organizations that are like, no,
we don't hate those banners. We hang championship banners. We're
not hanging division winners. We're not doing like none of
that crap. We hang championship banners. And instead the Knicks
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fans are running around celebrating, you know, breaking pinatas and
you know, tipping over giant sewer rats in the street
so that they could just relish in the fact that
they got past the second round for the first time
in twenty five years, as if that's anybody else's problem,
Like you haven't been past the second round and for
the first time in twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Five years, that's your problem.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But go climb a building and then you know, go
go snort whatever you want off the ground in the
streets of in the streets of Manhattan, there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Ed Oh yes, but before we go to break, it
must be stated the funniest s was watching Tyrese Haliburton
give the dap ups start to slow stroll due to
peace sounds with the fingers ready to accept his award,
and they gave it the Pascal siak, Yeah, that's unfortunate.
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Up top, Pascal, up top? Wait what Plexico? I think
it was Plexico that said that one of them gifts.
You remember the uh the movie, the movie Tom Hanks
was in with the Pirates. He said, I'm the captain
of this ship. Now the dude kind of looks just
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like Pascal and he said that Jip. I started dying laughing.
I started dying laughing.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Because if I would have made that comf it would
have been a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Somebody else pointed that out. Why why he does look
like I'm the captain. I'm the captain of this ship. Now,
I mean, wasn't he the reason why they got one?
And Toronto? Toronto? I'm thinking Vancouver, because these kiddo's right
here in Toronto. He was, he was like he blew
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up in Toronto because of that. Like arguably, like what
top two player, top three player in the series that year.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That was a big It was a big acquisition for
Indiana when they made the move. And I'll say this,
somebody that deserves credit for being on the Indiana bandwagon
was Tim Legler of ESPN, who does a great job.
He was calling his shot on the Pacers last year,
and like, man, look, if it was up to me,
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I think we should be talking more about the Pacers,
like they're really really underrated. And so to see Pascal
Siakam win Eastern Conference Finals MVP, which I would assume
it was that game in which Tyrese Haliburt and Laden Egg,
I think it was game five where you saw Siakam
really was consistent, more consistent througheries.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, and so, which is interesting because my take on that,
Jonas is, did that just create maybe the the situation
of moving forward where now Halliburton is not going to
want that to happen twice? And could that be an issue?
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Could that could that disrupt the harmony of this PACER's team?
Could it create maybe some friction? You know, I don't
expect them to win. They're gonna need Pascal Siakam to
be him to win this series. But does that become
a storyline in this series if they don't do well?
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Are we going to see are we going to see
Halliburton shoot more? Are we going to see him hold
the ball a little longer? Let me ball? I like you, Pascal,
We're great teammates, but you stole my shine once. Hey, Pascal.
I'm the captain of this ship. You're gonna have to
take it back. You're gonna have to take it back
because Pascal took it.
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
We start off our two of the program talking about growth,
potential growth.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, conflicting reports.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
On this right, So the NFLPA is trying to say no, no, no,
this is not the case. But according to Mike Florio
and per a source with knowledge of the situation, NFLPA
Executive Director Lloyd Howell has been actively discussing the pros
and cons of a four team European division. That's because
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the NFLPA is preparing for the push from the league
to try and grow overseas, ultimately resulting in a division
in the NFL that would be in Europe. Now, Lloyd
Howell did rescont fond and say player members are in
regular discussion with the NFLPA about international games and related
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to health and safety issues, but no one is actively
preparing for a European division. Well you can say that,
but it does feel like eventually this is where this
is going. And I just wonder, and we've talked about
the sixteen game international schedule that they've thrown in there,
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and just how would this work and how does this look?
I wonder if that's Roger Goodell in the NFL sort
of their soft launch into NFL in Europe and potentially growing.
And we've heard this before, having four teams playing over
in Europe and making that be one of the divisions
in the NFL. Somehow someway. As much as I can't
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stand it, I'm good with the way that it is.
The NFL is always looking for growth, and it feels
like Europe is the place that it may happen.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean, but I've tried it's before, I mean, and
maybe not like this, but it's been They've tried numerous
times to create world leagues. Football just isn't widely participated
in like soccer. And that's okay. I understand what. I
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guess the thought process of trying to expand the borders,
trying to make the game more you know, globalized, I
get that, but I don't know I think that there
has to be an understanding and which does not. It's
not in my wheelhouse to try to figure it out.
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So maybe it is taking place under Roger Goodell to
understand the market well enough to maybe capture the NFL
fans that are there. That I mean, I think they've
done a great job at excellent job of what they've
been able to do with the games that are played.
I've been to a couple of them. I've experienced it.
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It is a spectacle, but you have a lot you
have a lot of people who don't understand the game,
and they go because it's a spectacle. They go for
the meeting of people. They go to have a good time,
could be a date, go for the food, whatever it
may be. And you may be like, well, how do
you know that? Because I'll go see a team that's playing,
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and the two teams that are playing, you'll see a
whole bunch of different team jerseys being warned by the
fans that are there. And then what's interesting is is
that the fans kind of pick and choose who they
want to chair for and that becomes almost like the
facto home team, like, oh, we're going to chair more
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for this team. But for the most part, you'll see
you'll hear jeers and cheers after every big play. It's
not a home field advantage, you know, So it's it's
an U and I yeah, it's it's not a it's weird,
it's not a you know, like you know Joanas because
he plays for this team and that's your team. They're representing,
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you know, their team. That's not what you have there.
And I just wonder what that what that create? Would
it create a better environment if you created this four
team division? Are they playing Are they all playing out wimberly?
Because I mean I would assume that those four teams
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are going to have to travel quite a bit to
come here to play other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Correct, Yeah, that's the other part of it, like travel,
Like logistically.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
How does this work? How does it work?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It just feels like And I'll also say this, if
you're the NFL and you really want to get people
in London or in Europe excited about the game, maybe
you shouldn't have sent the Jaguars over first, because there's
probably people.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
In London going, is this what you guys?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like this like like we're supposed to be excited about
this this team sucks. What are we doing here.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Listening to what you just said and what we just said?
Like I guess that would be the difference, and be
for what they did in the past and what they
didn't play each other in the past, Like when they
created NFL euro they were playing each other. It was
just their league, yea, because this would actually entail them
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playing teams in the National It's a National Football League
division that could have the CACHE connected to it. That
makes sense. And then if you get those names like
I don't know how big NFL names are European wise,
Like I feel like some names like move the needle
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a little bit, a little bit. I mean, if you'd
have had, you know, I would assume that you have
a Tom Brady that moves the needle abroad. If you have,
you know, maybe right now a Patrick Mahomes or a
Dak Prescott maybe that moves the needle abroad. But how
many players do you really have that are a drawing
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card a big ticket for selling tickets to come watch
What are you what are you selling? You know, in
terms of advertisement wise, what are you connecting to these
these TV deals that you would want to do over
there to try to get the type of money that
you're going to generate. These are all questions that would
have to be answered and understood and making that type
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of decision. What is what is attractive to that market
about the NFL player, the NFL game and the community
that's connected to What about from a player standpoint, would
you want to play in your I would say if
I could identify, and this is just me personally, because
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I was always trying to identify how am I able
to integrate and acclimate to one serving this community for
one and for two, what am I doing after I'm
done playing? So if I could identify something like for
me I could have I would have been fine. Because
I chose to go into media. I wanted to be
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a media personality. I wanted to write, I wanted to
do television, I wanted to do radio. So that was
something that was important to me and I started building
while I was playing in Washington. So if I'm in
if I'm in Europe, you know, they got what's it
called Sky I believe it's called Sky Sports Sports. Yeah,
So I would have been I think there are things
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that would be attractive. It's a beautiful place, there's a
lot going on. The euro is stronger than the American dollar.
Now that can play against you or it could play
for you, depending on how you look at it. Right, Like,
if I'm making money and I'm saving money and I'm
living modestly in Europe and I decided to come back
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home and live in America, I don't know how all
that works, but I would assume I'm getting more bang
for my buck when I bring my buck here from
what I'm making over there. There's a lot of things
to consider and to think about that would play a
part in this. Where are the players coming from? Are
they coming from America? Are they European players? How does
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that work? You know what I mean? Like, there's a
lot of questions that would have to be Would you'd
be drafted into that division and that team in Europe
just as you would be drafted into any other team
in the day. I just think there's a lot because
now you got like a dual citizenship situation, Like I
just wonder how that would would work. And I know
some people may say, well, isn't that how it would
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work with the Canadian Football League, Like I don't think
it would work that way. Well, maybe the setup of
you having a working visa and stuff like that. I mean,
people play abroad all all the time. You know they play,
people go abroad to play professionally all the time. But
as it applies to playing for an American league abroad,
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how does that work? I mean, I know you got
you have it in basketball, you have it in hockey,
you even have it in baseball. You have pro teams
franchises that are in Canada, But how does that work?
Canada's right here for one, That's just that's right a
part of like North America, Like we're right here. You
could drive to it. But this is different. This is
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your going over over the pond. This is a different
You're asking a different type of commitment level from these athletes,
and they got to be away from Like at least
your family can fly to see you or drive to
see you. If you're playing somewhere in the States, how
is your family going to be a part of your life?
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And that's like you're changing, You're really changing your lifestyle.
There's there's there's a difference in culture, different in in
in language. Not so much a language barrier because they
speak English, but it's still different. Lee, what's a flight
how long is a flight from Seattle to London? Like,
what what's that flight time? If we're guessing, I'm gonna
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say eight hours gotta be or maybe ten I'll say
like eight hours seven eight. We're looking at nine and
a half hours. Think that one.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Like if you're the Seahawks and you're playing the you know,
the London butter Teeth or whatever they like, but whatever,
Like I said, whatever, whatever their team name is, and
you've like you're yeah, you're you're playing Yeah, you're playing
the London Crumpets. So you've got to fly nine and
a half hours to go.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
See.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, just there's just and this is my question,
is the well completely dry here in the States that
you've got to do this? Because I feel like maybe
there's some other markets in the US that are looking
at this going and man, what about us? Like if
you're San Diego, hey, can we get our team back?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You know what I mean? Can we like can we
get something here? I mean best Southern California, you're talking
about three teams and or well two teams in this market.
You got two teams in this market, right, Pennsylvania has
two teams in Pennsylvania, Like you have states that support
more than one pro team in the National.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Football Chicago could probably have a second team. They've got
two baseball teams, They've got New York's got two teams.
I just I feel like there's possibilities here within the
states that you could work on as opposed to now
let's just let's go take it.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It does make you wonder, It does make you wonder
why that is. There are some markets Texas could end. Yeah,
san Antonio, the Oilers were there, they left, you know, so,
I mean, and you have the Texans now, so you
have San Antonio could carry a team. San Antonio probably
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could support a team. I just I just think there's
places where, like what about Oklahoma? There are some places.
Why is there not a pro football team? You took
a pro league to Alabama? Why do you not have
a pro team in Alabama? I feel like, and again,
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there has to be a very, very there has to
be a real defined reason as to why this what
we're saying isn't happening, and why there's such a concentrated
and focused thought on making that move to Europe. There's
a reason why we just I don't know that we're
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privy to I don't know that that's view as to
why it's so valuable to try to penetrate that market
the way that the NFL is trying to do. Yeah,
but there's a reason. There is a reason, and it
goes beyond just conventionally saying why not just expand in
the States. They have done that, they have expanded at
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times within the States. There's gotta be a reason why,
like this, whoa, this is why? I just don't know
what that is.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I mean, you know the I guess the easy
answer would be, you know, financially, the global takeover, the
money in Europe, you know that they want this, they
want to keep growing the game. I mean, at a
certain point, you just got to come to terms with
the fact that other parts of the world don't give
a rip about the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They really don't do they really.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Which is fine, Like go go enjoy cricket, go do
whatever you guys like to do and have fun with that.
There's nothing wrong with the NFL just being ours. And
I just feel like there's there's other ways that you
can probably grow the sport here as opposed to sending
an entire division over to Europe.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Six like, look at sixteen international games in a season.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's a lot. I mean, and now we're talking about
it even with your viewing audience here. You know, if
you're going to watch that game, I mean, it's definitely
off the beating path of how you're going to view
a game. It's very early. You got to get up
very early to be able to see it. If you're
on the East coast, it's pretty early. If you're on
the West coast, it's crazy early. It's crazy early. It's
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like what a nine am game or something like six
thirty local time out here, it's crazy, man. So it's
very different. Man.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
What about Hawaii, Like fans listening in Hawaii on on
you know, the edend, and they're five hours behind us.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Right the tiki torch of the Hawaiian? Is that what
it is? Through Fox Sports night hour? Three hours?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Three hours because they don't do daylight savings, So I
think it's is it three now and two in the fall?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I believe whatever it is. You know, Arizona doesn't do
that either. Yeah. Interesting, I don't know, man. I just
I mean, if they see it and it makes sense
and it works, I get it. But I just think
that there are a lot of serious issues that have
(31:22):
to be addressed, and I think a lot of it
will have to do with the mental health and the
emotional health of your players. If you're bringing players from
America over there to go to go play, I know
the conventional fan will sit there and be like, you
get in the opportunity to go make millions of dollars
and play at the professional game and it's a kid's game,
(31:44):
and then and then go do your job. And people
do that all the time. I know people will say that,
and that's fine, but again, you grew up here playing
the game. You worked your ass off to make it
through high school, make it to a college, and play
well enough to have the opportunity to play in the
pro level in the Pro League. I would assume, just
(32:08):
like you go through having homesickness when you go to
college and you have to deal with go to college,
you're going to have a little bit of homesickness when
you go to the pros like and unless you go
to your hometown. So imagine if you're going to go
through that going to a franchise that's here in the States,
(32:28):
what is that going to look like? What is that
going to feel like when you're going through the colder
months of the year and you're abroad.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I swear to God, if I got drafted by a
European team and I get picked up by the airport,
the second I see that guy driving in the wrong
side of the car, I'd retire.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's it. I'm out of here. This is not worth
my time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
This guy can't even figure out which side of the
car to drive on, and you expect me to play
games here f that?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
But hey, good luck. Maybe we'll see it someday.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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Speaker 3 (33:09):
From Dolly Parton to the Tussy, Oh No, we are
going to uh gate find out. We're going to find
out exactly what h what a little pink cocaine will
do for you. After that video surface of Stefan da alleged, yeah,
allegedly the the pink substance, which is called TUCYSI uh
(33:32):
And apparently you know, LeVar threw this out there and
I was like, well, no, there's no way that this
could cost him his job right. Apparently that's on the
table if if you believe Scott Zolac, the Great Scott Zolac,
who's on Zolac and Bertrand on our Fox Sports radio
(33:53):
affiliate ninety eight to five the Sports Hub in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He said he got it on on Good on Good,
it's source.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
This is a real possibility. Here was Zolac, Well, I
think he should be kind on you.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't. I came to the show yesterday with the opinion,
not opinion, but the knowledge of that it is on
the table that it is being thought of. And it's
not just the boat. It's not just the boat. There's
some other things that I've heard. That's all that puts
some things in question. Are you all in? Are you
all in here? So inherently?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
What though? Is that like a matter of like showing
up and coming around? What what exactly would there be?
Because first off, if you see the videos of him
working out and doing his training sessions, the dude is
working out like an animal right now. And if I'm
(34:48):
looking at that, I know what I'm seeing on film
can help our team. The talent that he brings to
the table can help the team. I would love to
understand and know when when you jump out there and
you say things like that and you throw out accusations
of it could be something else other than just the boat.
(35:09):
The boat is good enough all by itself. You don't
have to use anything else, right the boat. The boat
is all good by itself, all right, But keep in
mind you got to keep in mind also in this
scenario that Mike Vrabel is a former player and he
ain't a square. Let's be clear here, Hey, you might
(35:32):
be dealing with some of these guys. They might be
bible thumping, former player coaches and stuff like that, frown
upon certain things that ain't Mike Vrabel. That ain't Mike.
Mike gonna be able to relate to you. And I
ain't saying that he's out here doing anything crazy. I'm
just said, Mike, Mike is is, He's He's he's a guy.
(35:56):
He's a guy like he's one of us. He's one
of the guys. So to me, I just think that
he's going to err on the side of caution and
he's going to have a conversation with Stephan Diggs probably
has already at this point, has had a conversation with
Stephan Diggs. He's gotten Stephan's side of the story. They've
(36:20):
had their conversations, and they're going to move forward accordingly.
If you're asking me today, do I think he's going
to get cut, I'm going to say no, it's not.
I will say I think it was a possibility still
is a possibility based upon how the interactions go from
(36:41):
here on out. You now in a way, if I'm
Mike Vrabel, it's like, look, we're going to extend some
grace your way, so you need to extend back to us,
putting your best foot forward. I'm going to protect you
in this situation. We're going to get through this together,
(37:02):
and I need you to repay me by being the
best teammate you can possibly be moving forward because the
Patriots can use your set of skills. Yeah, on the field.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And I think that was one of the other things
Zola could pointed out, was like, listen, man, they need him,
Like it's not you know, like he like the videos
that you talked about, Like he looks like he's rounding
into form.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
He looks good.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
But what's interesting about it is the way his contract
is structured. He he doesn't really get the bulk of
the money and the guarantees until he passes his physical.
So theoretically, the team doctor could come in and say, hey, listen,
it's his knees not up to snuff, and and and
that's that, and he gets you know, a little like
(37:48):
four million dollars maybe a little less than four million
dollars up to this point as a bonus for signing there.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I don't think ultimately he gets cut unless look, more.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Videos come out or something like who the hell knows.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But as of this point, this feels like a public
warning more than it does the likelihood that he's going
to lose his job because of this video.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It wasn't okay, let's let's do this. The visual of
it was shocking. It wasn't scathing. It was just shocking,
like what WTF? And you might have been looking at
what was around him versus what was in his hand
(38:35):
to begin with. Yeah, right, And then the storyline, the
storyline of it being connected to who he's dealing with
and who he's hanging out with and them all being
on the boat at the same time, was you know,
you might have the conversation was this a little dittler?
Was this a diddler yacht party. I don't, we don't know.
We don't know what the end result of all of
(38:57):
that was like when I looked at it and saw it.
He clearly got caught up by whoever was videoing it,
but he was locked into what his mission was. But
does that footage does that footage scream cut steph On Diggs.
(39:21):
That was the first question I asked myself. I mean,
it's to me, it's pay raise. But again, you know
we run it. We run a different operation here. I
mean LT used cocaine and he's considered one of the
greatest football players of all time. Some would say that's
what made him so good. I don't know they. I mean,
(39:41):
they could have considered that as being a performance enhancement drug.
I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I know
you wasn't gonna cut LT over some cocaine. I know
that he what he did. What Okay, well, let's just
figure out how that works.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I mean, I could understand, uh, the the thinking of
maybe I Vrabel, you know, pulls the plug on this.
Because he's taking over. They're trying to set a culture,
they're trying to set boundaries. He wants to show that
it's a it's a different patriots, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
All that I just don't And by the way, like
we don't we don't know. We don't know if that
was we don't know the Tussea. We don't know if
it was the Tusy. We do not know. It's a
bad look. The optics of it is a bad look.
We don't know if it was the TUTSI, I mean,
the toosy. We don't know for certain. Like there's all
(40:37):
what you got. Well, there's also there's also a bigger,
a bigger question, he asked.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Okay, well the question got this rednying. Who should who
shot the video? Who's the sneak shot the video? That
son of a bitch should be cut? Whoever that is
I shot the video? You rat, okay, But here's the
(41:04):
thing though, this is what makes it a little weird
to me. He looked up at the camera.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
If you go back and look at the video, he
looks at the camera, and so are two of the girls,
at least one of them looks over at the camera.
They were on camera and knew it. Do you think
they set him up?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Do you think the girls set him up or do
you think he trusted or did he trust the camera
man so much? And he was like, there's no way
he's going to post this, assuming it's a heat. There's
no way he's gonna post this. That's my guy. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I don't know what the reasoning was behind why they
were so casual about it. But it was so casual
that in looking at it, it's like it's definitely a
bad look because you can consider it to be the
two see but with that being said, he did not
(41:58):
look inebriated, He did not look like he was on
a bender. It didn't look like he was doing anything
crazy until you saw the plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
He's come out, all right. So if it wasn't the twos,
what are the other options?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All right? Pink hemlay and pink salt. There's that. It
could have been some some fun balloons, like I said
on Saturday, he could have pulled out like the little
little little part like he's like a magician. He could
have been like ready to do a magic trick and
was going to pull out the balloons and make like
balloon dogs and animals and stuff like that. You know
(42:33):
what I mean. They come in different colors.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know. It could also be fund dip fun could
be the remnants of a peep some leftover leftover Easter
candy and he doesn't like the marshmallow, but he likes.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I couldn't tell if it looked like powder though, I'm
just be honest with you. I couldn't tell. I just
saw the color, and one of them is pink and
the other one, what what was the color the other thing?
Was it like blue or black? It seemed like it
was darker like whatever it was on the other side,
because it was two, there was two, which one the
one to was writer lest one. I think they came
(43:11):
from the same place. I mean some might say Dominican
on one side. Somebody might just said Puerto Rico on
the other. I was talking about what was in the baggage,
and that was what was in front of him.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, it's like there's like everybody just assumed.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That it is the Dominican. Right. Could have been Jamaica,
could have been Bermuda, could have been Turks and Caicos
well listen now, I mean hell could have been Cuba.
I mean it could have been I don't know, Puerto Rico.
(43:48):
I don't know there's a whole world out there. I
just know a mommy would have worked. I mean, mita,
it would have worked. Well. Listen, now, if we do
find out exactly what was going on there and whether
or not, is it agregious enough now to call for firing.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I don't think so. By the way, there was there
was also other videos that popped up this weekend. Oh,
Cardi B was was seen in these other videos? Okay,
that was Cardi B, right, Lee?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
That was.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
From my uh for my research, that was definitely Cardio. Yeah,
from Lee's algorithm. He can't confirm that that's Cardi B
that was in I.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Mean, we can confirm that Cardi B was previously and
prior to a professional at twerking. That's not offensive to
say that. That's just that's just she's no stranger to
the twerk all right, so let's not let's not act like,
(44:49):
oh my gosh, yeah, we've got video evidence of Cardi
B working that act.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
If you're having a party and and your buddy used
to be a bartender, he's the one you'd ask to
make drinks.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Cardi B used to used to be a stripper. I mean, hello,
it's a way and now you're like worth over one
hundred million. Like she's the American Dream. People, So she's
twerking that ass, and Stefan digs her boo is hollering
at some some shorties with some some tousy yeah yeah yeah,
(45:34):
bubbet bubbitt, bubbet bubbet. If you will bad bad a
hundred billion, go with pop that bubbitt bubbitt. They don't
make that money girl.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Stefan Diggs is doing a light of tusie off a
boogie board.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Hey man, it's the American dream. Steph had his humble beginning.
Now he and his other are both in the league.
They bawling out they'd made some good money. He's doing well.
He's a celebrity now now he's in a different, different
category of celebrity. Now that's this is what comes with it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
By the way, most of the time people are getting
in trouble for Fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
He's not even waiting, Dank, He's not even waiting. He's
like that fat fireworks tonight, Pitches.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I got your Piccolotle, Pete right here, right here, by
the way, right here,
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Boors Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And we start things off on this Monday. Well they're
back with congres. Don't want to do a recap Lorena
and Lee being back for where were they their vacation?
There you go, she had it all cute ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hey, hey, how was the How was it there at
Drug addict University?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The three of them in there? Right there with them?
There they go, there's the Canada crew right there. Oh
man Neveland, two belonged. One just was a freeloader. Hey,
how was methcouver keep it in just great? Oh oh,
I mean there's no denying of what the reports are
(00:59):
if they're true. He was right at home. Oh yeah,
downtown Vancouver. You knew when you were getting close to
the hotel. Just follow the follow the lights, follow your people.
Huh Hey, I know you. Hey, hey, it's a de
lap disciple.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Anyboddybody by the way, Can I tell you something I
saw coming in this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
There was a guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
There was a guy walking on the freeway with one
of those headlights on, you know, like the things you were,
and I thought, well, it might must be you know,
somebody working for Coltrans or doing some roadwork.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, just a pedestrian walking on the freeway, thinking about
thinking about ending. So just letting everything if we get
a news we get a news report, I'm just letting
everybody know here at headlight on.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But yeah, I don't know, I don't know if he was,
you know, trying to impersonate that Mountain lion and he
tried that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A couple of years ago. He didn't have it. He
didn't have a hit. It ran over though. Yeah, he
definitely did. So, Yeah they did, so did Burton. It was.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So congratulations are in order to the Indiana Pacers. The
NBA Finals start several days from now for some inexplicable reason.
But the Pacers and the Thunder is your NBA Finals matchup, which,
you know, it is kind of funny. All the time
spent talking about, you know, the Lakers, Lebron, all the
(02:41):
major storylines that they try and churn out on ESPN,
you know, try and facilitate the talking points for the league,
and instead we're going to get Oklahoma City versus Indianapolis
in the NBA Finals. But there's an overwhelming sense that
this is okay C year. They're the overwhelming face on DraftKings.
I believe to win the series or a minus seven
(03:03):
hundred so seven to one favorite to win the series.
I think it's going to be much better than that.
And these really were the two best teams in the
playoffs from their respective conferences throughout the course of the playoffs,
and so it should be an entertaining, at least somewhat
interesting NBA Finals that we've got.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean, I felt like Denver could have possibly been
the better team, the best team out of the West.
I think that OKC was the most complete team. I
do believe that it's a different series if they're completely
healthy and the Nuggets that is. I just think Jokic
(03:45):
showed you, like some amazingness And not to get off
on the tangent of speaking on Denver in Jokic, but
I think that that was going to be the hardest
challenge expected. It could have been the Timberwolves, but they
bowed down, they laid down, and they didn't have enough
(04:06):
to deal with the depth of what you know, the
OKC thunder was bringing. But as far as in the East,
it's interesting to see how that all kind of panned out.
You know, the Knicks took care of of the Celtics, which,
by the way, I mean without obviously Jason Tatum, they
(04:26):
were going to be in a different situation going moving forward.
And you know, just looking at the East and who
could have possibly came out of it, while you look
at the New York Knicks and you say, it's a
great market, wonderful market, the team has great history. A
lot of people were very excited. It would have been
a star studded event with the New York Knicks being
(04:49):
in the championship round. Probably would have been great for basketball.
That wasn't the best team. That wasn't the team that
you wanted to represent the East and your finals. And
I apologized all the Knicks fans out there. It just wasn't.
It wasn't it wasn't going. It just was not going
to be it. They're missing they're missing something. Bruntsing dope,
(05:14):
dope dude. I think when they gave him adequate rest
and in Game four, it showed, it showed, uh or
game five?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Game five? Game four? What what was yesterday? Or six? Yet?
So game game five when they won Game five and
kept the series alive. They were able to rest bruntsing
and and Brunting down the stretch, was able to do
what he needed to do, and the bench did what
they were needing to do the game prior, they weren't
(05:51):
able to do that, and Brunson got tired and you
saw it show late in the game. I feel like
the inconsistencies of what what you know Karl Anthony Towns
brings to the table makes it such a wild card
situation for the New York Knicks because if he's on,
you have a very formidable team. If he's off, it
(06:12):
really is a tremendous drop off on what they're able
to bring to the table. But one thing you can
say about Indiana Pacers is that they play with such
great pace. They move very quickly up and down the court.
They play play stellar defense, and they have a bench
(06:34):
where they can rotate in and out and stay fresh.
It sounds exactly like the OKC Thunder. So you're talking
about we're potentially I'll be interested to see are they
going to play at that fast sonic the hadgehog pace,
you know, up and down the court, hard defense like
(06:57):
because if you go into half court sets if you
slow down the ball, which it would be interesting to
see if any of these teams decide to do that.
If you slow down the ball and you create these
half court sets, then you're giving the other team the
opportunity to get back and get in front of you
and play defense. And both of these teams can do
just that. So it'd be interesting to see will they
(07:19):
will it be a fast pace where it's more offensively
driven with the speed of a post, a made shot,
post maade shot, or a rebound, and then the rebounding.
One of the major things I'll say you should look
for in this upcoming series is who's winning the rebound war,
(07:43):
because if you're getting second opportunities at the cup, that's
going to be an issue for the pace, that's going
to be an issue for fast breaks, you know, those
types of points that come in bunches for both of
these teams. But if they're able to control the board,
like if on the defensive side for each team, so
(08:06):
say ok c is on defense, if they're able to
get if it's a one shot, you get the rebound,
we're out letting. We're going same on the other side.
If if Indiana, you know they're playing defense. They forced
the shot, they missed the shot. Indiana gets the board.
They're getting out into transition very quickly. It should be
(08:26):
a pretty entertaining game. It should be a pretty entertaining series.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
The Knicks celebration after advancing past the second round should
be looked at as one of the most pathetic things
in recent history by a fan base.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What a clown show. They said they're gonna lift a
banner up in Madison Square Garden pertained that knocked out
the Celtics on the playoffs, right, yeah, like that is
that tells you everything.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And I was making the point that I'll bet somewhere
in Madison Square, because all we keep hearing about is
all you know, it's the New York fan base, and
it's Madison Square Garden, and it's the mecca, and it's
blah blah blah. And if you just took like a
little file and you scraped away at an MSG logo,
there there's probably a ninety nine cent store logo somewhere underneath.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Nickel and Dime.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Nicks all the way running the streets, climbing stuff, celebrating
because they got past the second round and then you
saw them against the Pacers. They can say, well, you
know what, we should have won the first game.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You gag that game away, you lost the second one.
The series was a wrap there, Congratulations you got one
win in the Eastern Conference Finals at MSG. Other than that,
you look back on the celebration upon further review, completely ridiculous,
totally ridiculous. And I think there's like they have players
(09:58):
like streets. I saw, like mckel bridges has a street
in by Madison Square Garden. The whole thing was preposterous.
And now that you see it upon and then the
stories come out that apparently they were not happy. People
within the Knicks weren't happy with Karl Anthony Towns and
you know his deficiencies on defense, et cetera. Except just
(10:20):
the whole thing was so embellished and overblown, and for
some reason, nobody within the Knicks fan base who's actually
seen them do anything worthwhile like go to an NBA
finals or you know, lose, you know, a real playoff game,
or like nobody wanted to pull some of these younger
Nick fans aside and be like, hey, you realize we
(10:40):
got to win like two more series, right, Like you
gotta you do get that right.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
This isn't the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I don't know what, Hugh, I don't know what you
were you were looking at here, but this is not
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just the whole thing was laughable upon further review. I mean,
it probably felt good to knock off a team so
highly righted it and tout it coming into the playoffs.
I think if people were being real with themselves, they
would have said that the Celtics were most likely the
team that you would see representing the East. And it
(11:13):
didn't happen that way. And the Knicks were the ones
to slay the dragon, and they were excited about it
so much so where they were heckling Indiana Pacer fans
and throwing trash on the fan. And I wonder if
that how that fan feels today, you know, I wonder
(11:33):
what if he went out with, you know, trash bags
full of trash and was looking for New York Knick fans.
Clearly lived in New York, I'm assuming, so he was
getting getting harassed coming out of the game in New York.
So just so just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Like it's like when the Sacramento Kings hung a Summer
League banner up in the arena there at the arena
they play at it's like, are you seeing man? Like
I kind of have respect for organizations that are like, no,
we don't hate those banners. We hang championship banners. We're
not hanging division winners. We're not doing like none of
that crap. We hang championship banners. And instead the Knicks
(12:13):
fans are running around celebrating, you know, breaking pinatas and
you know, tipping over giant sewer rats in the street
so that they could just relish in the fact that
they got past the second round for the first time
in twenty five years, as if that's anybody else's problem,
Like you haven't been past the second round and for
the first time in twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Five years, that's your problem.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But go climb a building and then you know, go
go snort whatever you want off the ground in the
streets of in the streets of Manhattan, there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Ed Oh yes, but before we go to break, it
must be stated the funniest s was watching Tyrese Haliburton
give the dap ups start to slow stroll due to
peace sounds with the fingers ready to accept his award,
and they gave it the Pascal siak, Yeah, that's unfortunate.
(13:07):
Up top, Pascal, up top? Wait what Plexico? I think
it was Plexico that said that one of them gifts.
You remember the uh the movie, the movie Tom Hanks
was in with the Pirates. He said, I'm the captain
of this ship. Now the dude kind of looks just
(13:29):
like Pascal and he said that Jip. I started dying laughing.
I started dying laughing.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Because if I would have made that comf it would
have been a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Somebody else pointed that out. Why why he does look
like I'm the captain. I'm the captain of this ship. Now,
I mean, wasn't he the reason why they got one?
And Toronto? Toronto? I'm thinking Vancouver, because these kiddo's right
here in Toronto. He was, he was like he blew
(14:01):
up in Toronto because of that. Like arguably, like what
top two player, top three player in the series that year.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That was a big It was a big acquisition for
Indiana when they made the move. And I'll say this,
somebody that deserves credit for being on the Indiana bandwagon
was Tim Legler of ESPN, who does a great job.
He was calling his shot on the Pacers last year,
and like, man, look, if it was up to me,
(14:30):
I think we should be talking more about the Pacers,
like they're really really underrated. And so to see Pascal
Siakam win Eastern Conference Finals MVP, which I would assume
it was that game in which Tyrese Haliburt and Laden Egg,
I think it was game five where you saw Siakam
really was consistent, more consistent througheries.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, and so, which is interesting because my take on that,
Jonas is, did that just create maybe the the situation
of moving forward where now Halliburton is not going to
want that to happen twice? And could that be an issue?
(15:14):
Could that could that disrupt the harmony of this PACER's team?
Could it create maybe some friction? You know, I don't
expect them to win. They're gonna need Pascal Siakam to
be him to win this series. But does that become
a storyline in this series if they don't do well?
(15:36):
Are we going to see are we going to see
Halliburton shoot more? Are we going to see him hold
the ball a little longer? Let me ball? I like you, Pascal,
We're great teammates, but you stole my shine once. Hey, Pascal.
I'm the captain of this ship. You're gonna have to
take it back. You're gonna have to take it back
because Pascal took it.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
We start off our two of the program talking about growth,
potential growth.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, conflicting reports.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
On this right, So the NFLPA is trying to say no, no, no,
this is not the case. But according to Mike Florio
and per a source with knowledge of the situation, NFLPA
Executive Director Lloyd Howell has been actively discussing the pros
and cons of a four team European division. That's because
(16:44):
the NFLPA is preparing for the push from the league
to try and grow overseas, ultimately resulting in a division
in the NFL that would be in Europe. Now, Lloyd
Howell did rescont fond and say player members are in
regular discussion with the NFLPA about international games and related
(17:06):
to health and safety issues, but no one is actively
preparing for a European division. Well you can say that,
but it does feel like eventually this is where this
is going. And I just wonder, and we've talked about
the sixteen game international schedule that they've thrown in there,
(17:27):
and just how would this work and how does this look?
I wonder if that's Roger Goodell in the NFL sort
of their soft launch into NFL in Europe and potentially growing.
And we've heard this before, having four teams playing over
in Europe and making that be one of the divisions
in the NFL. Somehow someway. As much as I can't
(17:48):
stand it, I'm good with the way that it is.
The NFL is always looking for growth, and it feels
like Europe is the place that it may happen.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean, but I've tried it's before, I mean, and
maybe not like this, but it's been They've tried numerous
times to create world leagues. Football just isn't widely participated
in like soccer. And that's okay. I understand what. I
(18:20):
guess the thought process of trying to expand the borders,
trying to make the game more you know, globalized, I
get that, but I don't know I think that there
has to be an understanding and which does not. It's
not in my wheelhouse to try to figure it out.
(18:41):
So maybe it is taking place under Roger Goodell to
understand the market well enough to maybe capture the NFL
fans that are there. That I mean, I think they've
done a great job at excellent job of what they've
been able to do with the games that are played.
I've been to a couple of them. I've experienced it.
(19:03):
It is a spectacle, but you have a lot you
have a lot of people who don't understand the game,
and they go because it's a spectacle. They go for
the meeting of people. They go to have a good time,
could be a date, go for the food, whatever it
may be. And you may be like, well, how do
you know that? Because I'll go see a team that's playing,
(19:25):
and the two teams that are playing, you'll see a
whole bunch of different team jerseys being warned by the
fans that are there. And then what's interesting is is
that the fans kind of pick and choose who they
want to chair for and that becomes almost like the
facto home team, like, oh, we're going to chair more
(19:46):
for this team. But for the most part, you'll see
you'll hear jeers and cheers after every big play. It's
not a home field advantage, you know, So it's it's
an U and I yeah, it's it's not a it's weird,
it's not a you know, like you know Joanas because
he plays for this team and that's your team. They're representing,
(20:09):
you know, their team. That's not what you have there.
And I just wonder what that what that create? Would
it create a better environment if you created this four
team division? Are they playing Are they all playing out wimberly?
Because I mean I would assume that those four teams
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are going to have to travel quite a bit to
come here to play other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Correct, Yeah, that's the other part of it, like travel,
Like logistically.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
How does this work? How does it work?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It just feels like And I'll also say this, if
you're the NFL and you really want to get people
in London or in Europe excited about the game, maybe
you shouldn't have sent the Jaguars over first, because there's
probably people.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
In London going, is this what you guys?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like this like like we're supposed to be excited about
this this team sucks. What are we doing here.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Listening to what you just said and what we just said?
Like I guess that would be the difference, and be
for what they did in the past and what they
didn't play each other in the past, Like when they
created NFL euro they were playing each other. It was
just their league, yea, because this would actually entail them
(21:31):
playing teams in the National It's a National Football League
division that could have the CACHE connected to it. That
makes sense. And then if you get those names like
I don't know how big NFL names are European wise,
Like I feel like some names like move the needle
(21:51):
a little bit, a little bit. I mean, if you'd
have had, you know, I would assume that you have
a Tom Brady that moves the needle abroad. If you have,
you know, maybe right now a Patrick Mahomes or a
Dak Prescott maybe that moves the needle abroad. But how
many players do you really have that are a drawing
(22:12):
card a big ticket for selling tickets to come watch
What are you what are you selling? You know, in
terms of advertisement wise, what are you connecting to these
these TV deals that you would want to do over
there to try to get the type of money that
you're going to generate. These are all questions that would
have to be answered and understood and making that type
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of decision. What is what is attractive to that market
about the NFL player, the NFL game and the community
that's connected to What about from a player standpoint, would
you want to play in your I would say if
I could identify, and this is just me personally, because
(22:59):
I was always trying to identify how am I able
to integrate and acclimate to one serving this community for
one and for two, what am I doing after I'm
done playing? So if I could identify something like for
me I could have I would have been fine. Because
I chose to go into media. I wanted to be
(23:20):
a media personality. I wanted to write, I wanted to
do television, I wanted to do radio. So that was
something that was important to me and I started building
while I was playing in Washington. So if I'm in
if I'm in Europe, you know, they got what's it
called Sky I believe it's called Sky Sports Sports. Yeah,
So I would have been I think there are things
(23:42):
that would be attractive. It's a beautiful place, there's a
lot going on. The euro is stronger than the American dollar.
Now that can play against you or it could play
for you, depending on how you look at it. Right, Like,
if I'm making money and I'm saving money and I'm
living modestly in Europe and I decided to come back
(24:06):
home and live in America, I don't know how all
that works, but I would assume I'm getting more bang
for my buck when I bring my buck here from
what I'm making over there. There's a lot of things
to consider and to think about that would play a
part in this. Where are the players coming from? Are
they coming from America? Are they European players? How does
(24:26):
that work? You know what I mean? Like, there's a
lot of questions that would have to be Would you'd
be drafted into that division and that team in Europe
just as you would be drafted into any other team
in the day. I just think there's a lot because
now you got like a dual citizenship situation, Like I
just wonder how that would would work. And I know
some people may say, well, isn't that how it would
(24:49):
work with the Canadian Football League, Like I don't think
it would work that way. Well, maybe the setup of
you having a working visa and stuff like that. I mean,
people play abroad all all the time. You know they play,
people go abroad to play professionally all the time. But
as it applies to playing for an American league abroad,
(25:12):
how does that work? I mean, I know you got
you have it in basketball, you have it in hockey,
you even have it in baseball. You have pro teams
franchises that are in Canada, But how does that work?
Canada's right here for one, That's just that's right a
part of like North America, Like we're right here. You
could drive to it. But this is different. This is
(25:36):
your going over over the pond. This is a different
You're asking a different type of commitment level from these athletes,
and they got to be away from Like at least
your family can fly to see you or drive to
see you. If you're playing somewhere in the States, how
is your family going to be a part of your life?
(25:56):
And that's like you're changing, You're really changing your lifestyle.
There's there's there's a difference in culture, different in in
in language. Not so much a language barrier because they
speak English, but it's still different. Lee, what's a flight
how long is a flight from Seattle to London? Like,
what what's that flight time? If we're guessing, I'm gonna
(26:18):
say eight hours gotta be or maybe ten I'll say
like eight hours seven eight. We're looking at nine and
a half hours. Think that one.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Like if you're the Seahawks and you're playing the you know,
the London butter Teeth or whatever they like, but whatever,
Like I said, whatever, whatever their team name is, and
you've like you're yeah, you're you're playing Yeah, you're playing
the London Crumpets. So you've got to fly nine and
a half hours to go.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
See.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, just there's just and this is my question,
is the well completely dry here in the States that
you've got to do this? Because I feel like maybe
there's some other markets in the US that are looking
at this going and man, what about us? Like if
you're San Diego, hey, can we get our team back?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You know what I mean? Can we like can we
get something here? I mean best Southern California, you're talking
about three teams and or well two teams in this market.
You got two teams in this market, right, Pennsylvania has
two teams in Pennsylvania, Like you have states that support
more than one pro team in the National.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Football Chicago could probably have a second team. They've got
two baseball teams, They've got New York's got two teams.
I just I feel like there's possibilities here within the
states that you could work on as opposed to now
let's just let's go take it.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It does make you wonder, It does make you wonder
why that is. There are some markets Texas could end. Yeah,
san Antonio, the Oilers were there, they left, you know, so,
I mean, and you have the Texans now, so you
have San Antonio could carry a team. San Antonio probably
(28:13):
could support a team. I just I just think there's
places where, like what about Oklahoma? There are some places.
Why is there not a pro football team? You took
a pro league to Alabama? Why do you not have
a pro team in Alabama? I feel like, and again,
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there has to be a very, very there has to
be a real defined reason as to why this what
we're saying isn't happening, and why there's such a concentrated
and focused thought on making that move to Europe. There's
a reason why we just I don't know that we're
(28:57):
privy to I don't know that that's view as to
why it's so valuable to try to penetrate that market
the way that the NFL is trying to do. Yeah,
but there's a reason. There is a reason, and it
goes beyond just conventionally saying why not just expand in
the States. They have done that, they have expanded at
(29:20):
times within the States. There's gotta be a reason why,
like this, whoa, this is why? I just don't know
what that is.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I mean, you know the I guess the easy
answer would be, you know, financially, the global takeover, the
money in Europe, you know that they want this, they
want to keep growing the game. I mean, at a
certain point, you just got to come to terms with
the fact that other parts of the world don't give
a rip about the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They really don't do they really.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Which is fine, Like go go enjoy cricket, go do
whatever you guys like to do and have fun with that.
There's nothing wrong with the NFL just being ours. And
I just feel like there's there's other ways that you
can probably grow the sport here as opposed to sending
an entire division over to Europe.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Six like, look at sixteen international games in a season.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's a lot. I mean, and now we're talking about
it even with your viewing audience here. You know, if
you're going to watch that game, I mean, it's definitely
off the beating path of how you're going to view
a game. It's very early. You got to get up
very early to be able to see it. If you're
on the East coast, it's pretty early. If you're on
the West coast, it's crazy early. It's crazy early. It's
(30:34):
like what a nine am game or something like six
thirty local time out here, it's crazy, man. So it's
very different. Man.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
What about Hawaii, Like fans listening in Hawaii on on
you know, the edend, and they're five hours behind us.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Right the tiki torch of the Hawaiian? Is that what
it is? Through Fox Sports night hour? Three hours?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Three hours because they don't do daylight savings, So I
think it's is it three now and two in the fall?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I believe whatever it is. You know, Arizona doesn't do
that either. Yeah. Interesting, I don't know, man. I just
I mean, if they see it and it makes sense
and it works, I get it. But I just think
that there are a lot of serious issues that have
(31:22):
to be addressed, and I think a lot of it
will have to do with the mental health and the
emotional health of your players. If you're bringing players from
America over there to go to go play, I know
the conventional fan will sit there and be like, you
get in the opportunity to go make millions of dollars
and play at the professional game and it's a kid's game,
(31:44):
and then and then go do your job. And people
do that all the time. I know people will say that,
and that's fine, but again, you grew up here playing
the game. You worked your ass off to make it
through high school, make it to a college, and play
well enough to have the opportunity to play in the
pro level in the Pro League. I would assume, just
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like you go through having homesickness when you go to
college and you have to deal with go to college,
you're going to have a little bit of homesickness when
you go to the pros like and unless you go
to your hometown. So imagine if you're going to go
through that going to a franchise that's here in the States,
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what is that going to look like? What is that
going to feel like when you're going through the colder
months of the year and you're abroad.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I swear to God, if I got drafted by a
European team and I get picked up by the airport,
the second I see that guy driving in the wrong
side of the car, I'd retire.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's it. I'm out of here. This is not worth
my time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
This guy can't even figure out which side of the
car to drive on, and you expect me to play
games here f that?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
But hey, good luck. Maybe we'll see it someday.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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Speaker 3 (33:09):
From Dolly Parton to the Tussy, Oh No, we are
going to uh gate find out. We're going to find
out exactly what h what a little pink cocaine will
do for you. After that video surface of Stefan da alleged, yeah,
allegedly the the pink substance, which is called TUCYSI uh
(33:32):
And apparently you know, LeVar threw this out there and
I was like, well, no, there's no way that this
could cost him his job right. Apparently that's on the
table if if you believe Scott Zolac, the Great Scott Zolac,
who's on Zolac and Bertrand on our Fox Sports radio
(33:53):
affiliate ninety eight to five the Sports Hub in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He said he got it on on Good on Good,
it's source.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
This is a real possibility. Here was Zolac, Well, I
think he should be kind on you.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't. I came to the show yesterday with the opinion,
not opinion, but the knowledge of that it is on
the table that it is being thought of. And it's
not just the boat. It's not just the boat. There's
some other things that I've heard. That's all that puts
some things in question. Are you all in? Are you
all in here? So inherently?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
What though? Is that like a matter of like showing
up and coming around? What what exactly would there be?
Because first off, if you see the videos of him
working out and doing his training sessions, the dude is
working out like an animal right now. And if I'm
(34:48):
looking at that, I know what I'm seeing on film
can help our team. The talent that he brings to
the table can help the team. I would love to
understand and know when when you jump out there and
you say things like that and you throw out accusations
of it could be something else other than just the boat.
(35:09):
The boat is good enough all by itself. You don't
have to use anything else, right the boat. The boat
is all good by itself, all right, But keep in
mind you got to keep in mind also in this
scenario that Mike Vrabel is a former player and he
ain't a square. Let's be clear here, Hey, you might
(35:32):
be dealing with some of these guys. They might be
bible thumping, former player coaches and stuff like that, frown
upon certain things that ain't Mike Vrabel. That ain't Mike.
Mike gonna be able to relate to you. And I
ain't saying that he's out here doing anything crazy. I'm
just said, Mike, Mike is is, He's He's he's a guy.
(35:56):
He's a guy like he's one of us. He's one
of the guys. So to me, I just think that
he's going to err on the side of caution and
he's going to have a conversation with Stephan Diggs probably
has already at this point, has had a conversation with
Stephan Diggs. He's gotten Stephan's side of the story. They've
(36:20):
had their conversations, and they're going to move forward accordingly.
If you're asking me today, do I think he's going
to get cut, I'm going to say no, it's not.
I will say I think it was a possibility still
is a possibility based upon how the interactions go from
(36:41):
here on out. You now in a way, if I'm
Mike Vrabel, it's like, look, we're going to extend some
grace your way, so you need to extend back to us,
putting your best foot forward. I'm going to protect you
in this situation. We're going to get through this together,
(37:02):
and I need you to repay me by being the
best teammate you can possibly be moving forward because the
Patriots can use your set of skills. Yeah, on the field.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And I think that was one of the other things
Zola could pointed out, was like, listen, man, they need him,
Like it's not you know, like he like the videos
that you talked about, Like he looks like he's rounding
into form.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
He looks good.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
But what's interesting about it is the way his contract
is structured. He he doesn't really get the bulk of
the money and the guarantees until he passes his physical.
So theoretically, the team doctor could come in and say, hey, listen,
it's his knees not up to snuff, and and and
that's that, and he gets you know, a little like
(37:48):
four million dollars maybe a little less than four million
dollars up to this point as a bonus for signing there.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I don't think ultimately he gets cut unless look, more.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Videos come out or something like who the hell knows.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But as of this point, this feels like a public
warning more than it does the likelihood that he's going
to lose his job because of this video.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It wasn't okay, let's let's do this. The visual of
it was shocking. It wasn't scathing. It was just shocking,
like what WTF? And you might have been looking at
what was around him versus what was in his hand
(38:35):
to begin with. Yeah, right, And then the storyline, the
storyline of it being connected to who he's dealing with
and who he's hanging out with and them all being
on the boat at the same time, was you know,
you might have the conversation was this a little dittler?
Was this a diddler yacht party. I don't, we don't know.
We don't know what the end result of all of
(38:57):
that was like when I looked at it and saw it.
He clearly got caught up by whoever was videoing it,
but he was locked into what his mission was. But
does that footage does that footage scream cut steph On Diggs.
(39:21):
That was the first question I asked myself. I mean,
it's to me, it's pay raise. But again, you know
we run it. We run a different operation here. I
mean LT used cocaine and he's considered one of the
greatest football players of all time. Some would say that's
what made him so good. I don't know they. I mean,
(39:41):
they could have considered that as being a performance enhancement drug.
I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I know
you wasn't gonna cut LT over some cocaine. I know
that he what he did. What Okay, well, let's just
figure out how that works.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I mean, I could understand, uh, the the thinking of
maybe I Vrabel, you know, pulls the plug on this.
Because he's taking over. They're trying to set a culture,
they're trying to set boundaries. He wants to show that
it's a it's a different patriots, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
All that I just don't And by the way, like
we don't we don't know. We don't know if that
was we don't know the Tussea. We don't know if
it was the Tusy. We do not know. It's a
bad look. The optics of it is a bad look.
We don't know if it was the TUTSI, I mean,
the toosy. We don't know for certain. Like there's all
(40:37):
what you got. Well, there's also there's also a bigger,
a bigger question, he asked.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Okay, well the question got this rednying. Who should who
shot the video? Who's the sneak shot the video? That
son of a bitch should be cut? Whoever that is
I shot the video? You rat, okay, But here's the
(41:04):
thing though, this is what makes it a little weird
to me. He looked up at the camera.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
If you go back and look at the video, he
looks at the camera, and so are two of the girls,
at least one of them looks over at the camera.
They were on camera and knew it. Do you think
they set him up?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Do you think the girls set him up or do
you think he trusted or did he trust the camera
man so much? And he was like, there's no way
he's going to post this, assuming it's a heat. There's
no way he's gonna post this. That's my guy. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I don't know what the reasoning was behind why they
were so casual about it. But it was so casual
that in looking at it, it's like it's definitely a
bad look because you can consider it to be the
two see but with that being said, he did not
(41:58):
look inebriated, He did not look like he was on
a bender. It didn't look like he was doing anything
crazy until you saw the plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
He's come out, all right. So if it wasn't the twos,
what are the other options?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All right? Pink hemlay and pink salt. There's that. It
could have been some some fun balloons, like I said
on Saturday, he could have pulled out like the little
little little part like he's like a magician. He could
have been like ready to do a magic trick and
was going to pull out the balloons and make like
balloon dogs and animals and stuff like that. You know
(42:33):
what I mean. They come in different colors.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know. It could also be fund dip fun could
be the remnants of a peep some leftover leftover Easter
candy and he doesn't like the marshmallow, but he likes.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I couldn't tell if it looked like powder though, I'm
just be honest with you. I couldn't tell. I just
saw the color, and one of them is pink and
the other one, what what was the color the other thing?
Was it like blue or black? It seemed like it
was darker like whatever it was on the other side,
because it was two, there was two, which one the
one to was writer lest one. I think they came
(43:11):
from the same place. I mean some might say Dominican
on one side. Somebody might just said Puerto Rico on
the other. I was talking about what was in the baggage,
and that was what was in front of him.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, it's like there's like everybody just assumed.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That it is the Dominican. Right. Could have been Jamaica,
could have been Bermuda, could have been Turks and Caicos
well listen now, I mean hell could have been Cuba.
I mean it could have been I don't know, Puerto Rico.
(43:48):
I don't know there's a whole world out there. I
just know a mommy would have worked. I mean, mita,
it would have worked. Well. Listen, now, if we do
find out exactly what was going on there and whether
or not, is it agregious enough now to call for firing.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I don't think so. By the way, there was there
was also other videos that popped up this weekend. Oh,
Cardi B was was seen in these other videos? Okay,
that was Cardi B, right, Lee?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
That was.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
From my uh for my research, that was definitely Cardio. Yeah,
from Lee's algorithm. He can't confirm that that's Cardi B
that was in I.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Mean, we can confirm that Cardi B was previously and
prior to a professional at twerking. That's not offensive to
say that. That's just that's just she's no stranger to
the twerk all right, so let's not let's not act like,
(44:49):
oh my gosh, yeah, we've got video evidence of Cardi
B working that act.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
If you're having a party and and your buddy used
to be a bartender, he's the one you'd ask to
make drinks.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Cardi B used to used to be a stripper. I mean, hello,
it's a way and now you're like worth over one
hundred million. Like she's the American Dream. People, So she's
twerking that ass, and Stefan digs her boo is hollering
at some some shorties with some some tousy yeah yeah yeah,
(45:34):
bubbet bubbitt, bubbet bubbet. If you will bad bad a
hundred billion, go with pop that bubbitt bubbitt. They don't
make that money girl.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Stefan Diggs is doing a light of tusie off a
boogie board.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Hey man, it's the American dream. Steph had his humble beginning.
Now he and his other are both in the league.
They bawling out they'd made some good money. He's doing well.
He's a celebrity now now he's in a different, different
category of celebrity. Now that's this is what comes with it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
By the way, most of the time people are getting
in trouble for Fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
He's not even waiting, Dank, He's not even waiting. He's
like that fat fireworks tonight, Pitches.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I got your Piccolotle, Pete right here, right here, by
the way, right here,
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