June 11, 2025 • 53 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Aaron Rodgers talks about joining the Steelers and getting married. The Bengals continue to cheap out and The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit to talk some MLB rivalries and College Football recruiting.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As rating win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How we feeling here? Sticks, I mean, I'm here with you,
my guy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
That's That's all that anybody needs to know, is that
we're here together.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Brou what up? Bruh?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And there and there was no there was no hitting
then you windows, They're just we're here, like, I feel good.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Let's go right, I'm not, I'm not maybe, so yeah,
you're right, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
All right?
Speaker 6 (00:41):
So we had, uh, we had waited, uh to see
exactly how this was gonna go all right, because the
big news of the NFL offseason, outside of the Shador
Sanders uh drama going on in Cleveland, uh that started
the draft now is in Cleveland coverage and all that,
which we laid out yesterday, the big story was where
(01:06):
is Aaron Rodgers going to end up if he decides
to play again? And as it turns out, the speculation
was right, it is Pittsburgh. And as it turns out
the report was true that Rogers did speak with the
media yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So let's first hear, let's we are.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Going to a question?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, well, we were going to we are we want.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
To hear the first three questions, because without even hearing it,
I'd like to believe that I make very very sound
decisions on things that I say, and I'm curious if
I hit the over or under on the question.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So here he was.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
This was Rogers talking with the media, just discussing the
overall general decision making on aligning with Pittsburgh, and also
Rogers being asked about the big question that you wanted
to know, is he married.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
Let's take a I don't need it for my ego.
I don't need it to keep playing a lot of
decisions that I've made over my career and life from
strictly the ego, even if they turn out well or
always unfulfilling, but the decisions made from the soul are
usually pretty fulfilling. So this was a decision that was
best for my soul. And I felt like being here
(02:21):
with Coach t and the guys. They got here and
the opportunity here was the best for me, and I'm
excited to be here.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Not any for a ring or anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That wedding ring.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
It's a wedding ring, congratulation, thank you, I love it.
It's been a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I mean, so listen, a couple of months ago, Rogers
ended up tying the not as you speculated, you were correct,
and so now we.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Uh over on?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Uh so yeah, the do we have the over under
on it? Did Lee hear the press conference? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
So the big debate that we did for those that
were not listening a couple of days ago, was when
he does actually talk with the media, how long into
the press conference before he has asked about the wedding ring?
The over under was set on this show at three
and a half. Lavarn and I both took the under. Lee,
what are the results?
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Well, he was at the podium for about thirteen and
a half minutes and it didn't get till he didn't
get asked about the ring until about eleven minutes in.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I counted at least eighteen questions.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Okay, so basically Lee and Lorena won. But can I
defend Lvarn myself here? Why should we be held accountable
for the fact that the media didn't do their job?
Clearly there was a priority.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Clearly, Hello, I mean is that not the number one
question coming out of your mouth?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Duh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Did you get married?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I mean, even and I don't even have to ask.
I don't even have to ask what took so long?
Like he answered the question in in a different way
because they asked the question so open ended, right, which
is fine, give the answer to the way you want
to get an answer. I thought what he had to say,
by the way, with his sound bite was believable. I
(04:10):
don't I don't know how I feel about it, because obviously,
looking at it as media, you say, okay, you can
understand somebody at his age having you know, done it
all and at this point it's for the love, and
you could say all right, as media, this makes for
(04:31):
an intriguing storyline to pay attention to because we're going
to see what that looks like in real time. You
don't get to fake it. You get to say this
is how I feel, this is for the love, and
I want to be here with Coach t and the
rest of the Steelers crew. Great, it sounds great, But
(04:53):
the problem with hearing an older player say those types
of things, knowing that the younger MVP winning version, the
super Bowl winning version, the super Bowl appearance or in
NFC finals many two apparent in this He never made
it back to a super.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Bowl one Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, he's ross one game one game shbby right to Brady.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, there was that he's lost a couple of his
record in the NFC title.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Games, not great with Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So well, here's all I'll say is is that with
that same Aaron Rodgers answered the question in somewhat of
that manner, and I think we all know the answer
to that question. So I don't know this Aaron Rodgers, right,
I don't think any of us know this Aaron Rodgers.
(05:46):
So there's gonna be a lot of elements that come
into play with this. If you look at Aaron Rodgers,
you know, stat line last year, a lot of people
talked highly of what he was able to do, which
is fine. It wasn't bad. I mean he threw and
he hit four thousand yards, which is, by any stretch
of the imagination, elite. Right, you can't say that he's
(06:08):
not elite with the amount of yards he threw four
But he's turning the ball over these days too, and
it's a high number of interceptions. I believe it was
twelve last year that he threw eleven eleven.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I hate that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Maybe I just selectively made it twelve because I don't
want eleven to be a negative thing. But it was
double digits turnovers Jonas and it's not it's not I
think he's only done that. Maybe what one other time?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
There was a couple of times early in his career
he had early on or yeah, double digit.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It like what it's like what I don't I think
the numbers really low.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
That and his last year in Green Bay. So four
times in his career he's throwing double digit picks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's it's there's the recency effect of what it is,
what the stat represents, which is I don't know. Are
we saying he doesn't protect the ball as much? Are
we saying he's such an old head? He comes across
as like his hit the guy he prodecessed and Brett
Favre And he's a slinger. He he slings that that rock.
(07:24):
He's a he's a gun slinger. What which one is it?
I don't know which Aaron Rodgers We're going to get
somewhat say the more enlightened a player gets and the
older they get, the worse they become because you become
a person you're not really supposed to be a person
(07:47):
when you play the game. And I know That might
sound crazy because guys would be like, I treat us
like people don't treat us like.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You're like a superhero. So don't take it as a
derogatory term. I'm not making derogatory. I'm saying when you
first get into playing football and you're in high school
and you're in college, there's like this this superhero from within.
And I don't care if you're a starter and an
All American or a bench warming practice player. You are different.
(08:20):
You are different. Your motivations are different, your energy is different,
your powers are different. Everything is different, Jonas. And then
you get older and you get married, or you have kids,
or you know, you see your parents getting older. Life happens.
(08:41):
And as you get older and you get wiser, and
you see more and more things come your way and
you've experienced more, it totally changes the essence of who
you are because life changes you. It's inevitable to change.
And so looking at listening to you know what he
(09:03):
had to say. I did listen to the interview. Obviously
I'm a fan. It's intriguing to me that he can
go into Pittsburgh, he can go into the AFC North
and talk about the perfect division to be able to
(09:23):
right your wrongs, to clean up things and to clean
up your reputation.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
If this is truly indeed a.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
One year deal. Yeah, But if I'm Aaron Rodgers, do
you look at it as this is a one year
deal and just settle in on that, or do you say,
you know what, I Am going to play my way
into another contract because I want to keep playing and
it just ultimately comes down to how I play and
how the Pittsburgh Steelers feel about me once we get
(09:53):
through this first season.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
So you mentioned what to do with the numbers from
last year. He did fall shy of the four thousand
yard mark that you had mentioned, just you know, by
you know, a couple couple uns. Yeah, nothing, not a
big deal unless you're in Chicago and you've never had
a four thousand year a passer. But and then he
threw the eleven picks. My whole read on Rogers last year,
(10:17):
and what version we are getting this year is he
was with the Jets, you know what I mean, Like,
at a certain point that's just got to be got
to be discussed, and it's got to be discussed in
the sense that anybody who's been with the Jets by
and large has not worked. It's why Justin Field's decision
to choose the Jets over the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We can talk about the money, it's.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Okay, Well, I guess you're willing to run into that
chaos because you think you're going to be the one
to save the day. I look at Rogers and I go,
I'm fascinated to see how this works. Even Pete Prisco
spoke glowingly about Rogers down the stretch last year, and
it's hard to get Pete to say nice, nice things
about quarterback in the NFL. And so because of that,
(11:03):
I look at it and go, I don't know. I mean,
if we're going to base it on what version of
Rogers we're getting last year, it's like, well, you also
got a factor in the fact that he's not paired.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Up with a circus.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
He's not going to be a part of a of
a clown show like he was with the Jets and
like we've seen with that organization for years and years,
and maybe just maybe the stability of Pittsburgh is a
place where he goes to, and as we've discussed before,
he finds that more to his liking, similar to what
he had in Green Bay still similar to that stability,
(11:37):
and he says, this is a place I can operate
for my soul, as he mentioned, at my full capacity,
to close out my NFL career. And maybe we look
back on his time with the Jets and go, yeah,
he just got Jets, like that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He got Jets, and it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Different very possible. It's very possible. It's a logical conclusion
or logical knopsis of the scenario. I will say this,
Pittsburgh is a phenomenal place to play football and live.
It's an amazing place. The food is good, there's a
lot of things to do. There's different parts of Pittsburgh.
(12:17):
You have the city itself, but then you have all
of the outside surrounding suburban areas. I'm not sure where
he'll live from, maybe the south South End. He'll probably
live the south the south do they I don't know
if they call it the south side, but I will
say South End. Now, I'm pretty certain it's the South End,
(12:38):
and that's where I believe the practice facility.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Do they practice at at the stadium?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think they practice where the stadium is, which is
on the north Shore. I doubt he'll be living on
the North Shore. That's Manchester. That's where I grew up
and went to school. That's not the touristy part, even
though a lot of parts of Pittsburgh are changing.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
But maybe Digress, maybe Oakmont, you know, because the US
opens in town this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's a nice area. That's old money, good money out there.
So Wickley's good money. I know keisl lives out in
so Wicklely or whatever. I believe. Uh, I don't think
he'll live that far away from the facility, but he could.
You know. When when I was growing up, I lived
in Ross Township, and a lot of the Steelers I
used to see when I was on my way to school.
I used to see Greg Lloyd driving his black Uh.
(13:29):
It was pretty They were pretty uh popular vehicles back then.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I want to say.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It was a what did it? What are they called?
It was like a four runner, but it wasn't. It
was a bigger It was like a.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Lexus truck, a Toyota Tacoma.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, it wasn't a pickup. It wasn't a pickup. It
was like one of those luxury escalation feuvs. It was
not an escalat No, no, no, everybody was driving them.
It was like a land rover, but it was maybe
it was a land rover. Anyways, it was black and
he had gold realms. And I used to see him
at the stop light every once in a while, be like, man,
(14:06):
there's Greg Lloyd man head and to work. That's amazing
because he's one of my favorite players. So anyways, that
is at least with traffic, at least twenty thirty minutes
away from the facility. So I would assume, based upon
how things have developed in Pittsburgh and the things you
(14:29):
see and the things you can do, he most likely
will live somewhere on the South Side.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I doubt he'll get a house there, get a home,
but it wouldn't be a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean, it's a great market.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But you know, you would assume that he's not planning
on being there so long where he'd buy a home.
So you probably get like a nice little property, you know,
where it's like a townhouse or a condo or whatever,
down in the south side of the South End excuse me,
south end of town.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I mean listen, him and his Brian can enjoy uh,
you know, I stroll down Carson Street and go to
fat Heads. Love say Carson Street is the only place
I remember.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But I will say this, Pittsburgh underrated town.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You want to go and have fun for a weekend
because I don't think a lot of people think about it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'm hitting there soon, like in a day or so.
Shouts out to my man Brandon Short, the Carly Short Foundation.
Check it out, you know, be sure you find yourself
if your heart is in the right direction, you know,
maybe do something nice, you know, yeah, contribute. He's raising
money for for you know, a weirdness of gun violence
(15:43):
and stuff like that. So it was good good cause.
So I'm hitting there. I'll be downtown and I can't wait.
Super excited. Love love Pittsburgh. So that should be fun.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Go watch a Buccos again, go see the buckles of
there in town.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I'm just feeling like, at this point in time
in my life, you know, I just want to I
just want to go there and spend some time there
for my soul, you know something that you know, nothing
else really matters. I just want to be able to,
you know, get back home and you know, and feel good.
(16:19):
You feel that energy, And at this point in my career.
I don't really care if they pay me anything to
come to Pittsburgh. I'm just going to come and spend
time in the Burg. Sounds like a plan. It's a
good spot to be in.
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
I always pay when I go out. If you had noticed,
I never let you pay. I don't let people pay
when we go out. So Lee, Lee, I let Lee
pay at the at the hotel. What do you mean
do you pay?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah? What do you mean when we go?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, we don't ever go out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Have I've paid a couple of times?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Have you when.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
The Well we were at the graduate in State College
and I sneakily paid.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah you did. I don't remember.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Because because I just I was. It was my my
way to it was my getaway. Because I think you
and Lee had one shot and then you were like, let's.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Get another one, and.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Then it just.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Was off. Why can't I drink?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I don't really look like the type that would be
able to drink. Well, maybe I do. I don't know.
I don't know, but I can drink.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You are I'll give you credit for this because you've said,
like I can if I if I start, I can
just go all time. And I was, like, everybody says that.
And then in New Orleans, by the way, this is
not an exaggeration. In New Orleans, the Thursday before our
final show in New Orleans, we had a company meeting
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downstairs at the hotel bar that started at like noon.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
All right, we got off the air at eight am.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
LeVar went to the bar afterwards to get breakfast, had drinks, and.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I am not kidding.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
You did not leave that area until what ten o'clock
at night?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It was late.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You put in fourteen hours.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
In the late in the same shot, it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Was midnight, it was to midnight.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It was it was really.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Why were you up till midnightly?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, that night we were that day.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
That day I took it easy because that was after
my fall. That was the so you guys were going
after and I was kind of the.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Which which, by the way, the day you had your
fall was that the day we sat and drank hurricanes
at the.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
At the ball. I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think that is how that day started out. It
wasn't that the day after. It was the day after.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, because the Thursday, the Thursday, that wasn't the
day me and Lee sat together. I don't believe. I
think I came in and I got breakfast and started drinking,
and then they came in, and I ain't know they
were doing all that lunch and stuff like that, so
I'd start drinking with y'all. Then I went back to
the bar, started drinking over at the bar, and you
(19:23):
know B Mitch and B Mitch can can throw down
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
So I ended up setting with B Mitch a few times.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I mean, I don't leave.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
If you notice, I do not leave my hotel.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I'm not like I do not venture out to.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
People do venture out. I don't venture out.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
I'll see if you can find a hotel with a
decent bar downstairs with a good.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Sitting area, that's it.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You can see me.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You could see me passed out on if they got
a comfortable couch, and if they got what a comfortable
couch or a nice lounge area near the pool, you
can find me near the pool getting drinks or in
the lobby getting drinks that they have comfortable seating.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
And you know what was rough was Vegas year because
we were in the hotel, we were in the casino
the entire week.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
We didn't even get fresh air all week long.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But here's the thing. I treated New Orleans or anywhere
else that we stayed. I treated it the same exact way.
When we were in Arizona. I never left. I never left. Yeah,
I never left out of the hotel. When we were
in Vegas, I never left.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
When we were in New Orleans, I never left. I
never left.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
The only time I go outside the hotels when we go,
do to radio.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
There's no reason to Food was weird, setup was good, nuts,
It's comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The first day, the first day I got there, I
wanted some chicken wings and I said, where are the
best wings at? And they told this one spot and
I'd start walking. Then I realized, yeah, I'm not going
to do this again. I am not going to venture out,
not one more time.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
The best by the way.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
By the way, I did like cow on So because
you know, Thursday night we all hung out and faceally
took over the hotel lobby and the next morning Brady's like,
by the way, did you notice how I took my
headphones off in the middle of the first segment. I
was like, yeah, what was that about? He goes, I
was gonna throw up.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He's like, I thought it was. I thought it was
going to lose everything.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
He goes, So I literally thought, I need to get
to the bathroom right away because.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We went so hard the night before. Brady was we.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, we went we went hard, bro We went hard.
When I can feel it, like when I can feel
the fact.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
That I have drank too much.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
We have done something extraordinarily and incorrect and irresponsible.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
How many, by the way, how many meals did you
have down there at that same hotel?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't eat well. I mean during the course of
the week. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I mean, our single handed league had handled breakfast for him.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
They took off your favorite they took off your favorite.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Zo but gave it to me. But didn't they put
it back. I mean they made it for me, So
that was cool. Yeah, that was I want to steak
and eggs. I love steaking eggs in the morning.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Man. That's my dip.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
No, well, not paying people is the dip of the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's the Bengals dip.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Here on two pros and a cup of Joe, so
much so that Shamar Stewart, the rookie of the Cincinnati Bengals,
the first round draft pick the defensive end, he's.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
In a little bit of a little bit of a dispute.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The way this is being reported is that the contractual
hold up is due to the language of the deal
that the Bengals are trying to set a new precedent
with rookie contracts. It's going to give them the ability
to weight guarantees in their contracts, and Stuart wants to
have the same contract that every other rookie's gotten in
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Cincinnati over the past however many years. You want to
lump in together. And so Shamar Stewart talked yesterday about
the situation and had this to say as.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
In how far I'll take it, I mean, it just depends.
Like in my case, I'm one hundred percent right, I'm
gonna ask for nothing I've never done before. But in
y'all casey, I just want to win arguments that Winny
more games.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
In my opinion, I know business is business in football
is football, but have the veterans said anything.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Has there been any reaction at all with your situation.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
It's made it very easy when the people in air
locker room say you're doing the right things, especially the
star players.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It just puts that so stars in here. I'm not
asking names, but stars have said do what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, I mean, how many more?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I mean, who would sign a contract if if what
you're saying is if that's like the accuracy of it,
of just making it super simple. What guy would sign
a contract where the team is able to avoid all
your you know.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean all your guarantees.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And he's not like it's his point.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
He's not asking for something different than what they've done historically.
What they've done historically is what he's asking for. They're
trying to do something new this year, and.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I just think that if you want to do something new,
do what the other Cleveland team does. Just guarantee at all. Yeah,
go in the right direction. I'm going the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm with you. You want to do something different.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You don't want me to hold out, you want me
to be happy, you know what, Just fully guarantee the
hold entire contract.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Go ahead and jump, Just go ahead and do it.
I'm with you. It's also I mean, Trey Hendrickson is
not reported.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I'm not like why they don't love their defensive players.
I don't know their defense.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
And by the way, they asked Joe Brow yesterday're like,
is this a distraction? He's like yeah, He's like, yeah,
all we had two distractions last year.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
We've got another one this year. It's like, you know,
so we're down.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
One distractions this year. Yeah, because Hendrickson wanted money last year.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Did yeah, Hendrickson, Yeah. The Jamar Chase situation just and
I know that it's a mom and pop organization and
it's family run and all that, But at some point,
do the Bengals not look and go. You know, there's
a common theme here. It's we've got players, really good players,
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and they and they all have the same gripe and
complaint over and over and over again. At some point,
do the Bengals want to like step up and go
Maybe it's us, Maybe we got to adjust.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How we're doing have we're operating things here?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, when when you continue to do those things,
you're either insane or you're super successful. Their business model
must work for them, you know what our business model
is for them might not necessarily be what their business
model is for them. So that's what I would say.
We're talking about a franchise, you know, what is their motivations?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
What you know? How how do you measure success? I
really do be.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Wondering that sometimes for some of these these franchises, like
how do you measure what you're gauging? If you were
to tell thee hundred percent truth to the public, how
do you measure success? Well?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Because it always comes to the bottom line. It always
comes back to that.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
If you're ask an owner, would you rather win a
Super Bowl or make a bunch of money? And I
know they're you know, one and the same.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I would say, I was about to say, I would
think that you say they're one and the same because
if you do win Super Bowls that that probably will
lead to you making more money, which is which is
weird to me because if you're going to spend the
type of money to get to the Super Bowls, win
the Super Bowls, like, think about how much money do
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you the Kansas City Chiefs have earned since Patrick Mahomes
has become the quarterback, the starting quarterback of Casey And
then you ask yourself.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Okay, with the way that.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We're running our organization, does it make sense to keep
all of these guys happy? And if it's the guys
that we're not going to keep happy and we're going
to let go, then how do we replace them? And
that is generally a great position for a general manager
to be in because it's not a hard sale to say, hey,
we got to keep Chris Jones, Hey we got to
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keep Patrick Mahomes. You know, these are the people that
we have to keep. Are the other people interchangeable? They
have seemingly been so. But think about the value of
that franchise.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Now, did you when you were in Washington, Because you know,
Shamar Stewart's mentioning man veterans here with the team star
players are telling me you're doing the right thing. When
you're in Washington and like a rookie came in or
a new player came in, did you ever pull them
aside and be like, hey, just see, you know place
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did, But I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I wasn't one of those type of guys that was
actively seeking guys out. Like if you came and sat
with me or we were on the practice field or whatever.
I was more about just having a good time, just
the camaraderie of it.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
But if somebody had a question.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
You know, you know about how things were handled or
things they should think about, or dues and not to
do's and stuff like that. Sure I had those conversations,
but I was never I can I can't recall really
ever having like bad mouth conversations, you know what I mean,
Like I, they ain't giving you your money, because I
always stayed away from money with players, Like there are
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some players that that's all that drove them, like, oh
you you make this da da da, or shut up
full you don't make enough money?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Da da dad?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Just that Like I never was one of them dudes,
you know. So you know, some guys make it about money.
I never made it about that. Some guys, you know,
like to insert themselves into situation pause in the situations
that aren't necessarily theirs. And I just was always one
of them dudes that just you know, I'm around, you
know I'm around, but I ain't gonna get in your business.
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So I probably wouldn't have been one of them dudes
that was saying you're doing the right thing. Unless he
came up to me and been like, you know, Varr,
what am I supposed to do? Da da da, this,
that and the other, And then I'm like, Okay, explain
to me the situation. I want to fully understand the situation.
Then I'll, you know, let's come up with solutions.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But if he were to tell me that they're trying
to give me a contract that's different than in any
other rookie, and that they're trying to say that I
should have my they should be able to avoid my guarantees,
I would tell him you you can't.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You know, you can't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't tell them.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I wouldn't advise a guy to do something I wouldn't
do myself, and I wouldn't do that deal.
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Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's popping with hello U BA make it?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Petro?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Did you know that sound? Did you prefer that?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Did you prefer that one of the previous one, which
I think ladder?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I'm with.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
You, but the previous, the previous the former was awful,
and then you know, so was the ladder.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Let's be honest, but yeah, you know it's a little
bit of an improvement.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
It's not Project Pat Chickenhead. Now, that would be something
and we could all get to.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
But I mean that's a good bit. You need a
gun chicken chicken he What can I do for you
guys today? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Petros?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I got a I didn't know that this was a
topic of conversation. But some people are trying to judge
whether or not the Dodgers Padres is a rivalry.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
I think it's a certainly a twenty first century deal, right.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I mean, Max Mountsey said that the Giants Dodgers is
more of a rivalry, that that's a real rivalry, trying to.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Dismiss the Padres.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
I mean, it's like saying, you know, there's rivalries that
last the hundreds of years. There's rivalries that go back
to the birth of the sport, kind of like USC
Notre Dame, something we've been talking about a lot over
the last few years. And there's rivalries that are of
interest now because San Diego has Manny Machado and Tatis
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and Jackson Merrill and they're a.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Good baseball team.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
And the Giants just won six straight albeit there playing
the Rockies mostly. But it's a great division. The NL
West is an absolute fireball right now, and it's fun
to watch because, and you know, the talking point from
the Dodger people is, well, the only reason the division
is this close is because the Dodgers are so beat
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up and they don't have any pitching and all of
their pitching guys are hurt. And now they're slowly coming back.
Blake Snell's working out again, Toddi's getting ready to pitch,
maybe even before the All Star break.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
So there's a lot of movement there. But yeah. I
mean people go to the.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Games in mass the games are all sold out. They're
screaming the entire time. There's a lot of social media
buzz and excitement and action. They met each other in
the playoffs every year, it seems, and have epic battles,
and there's vitriol between the managers between from the last
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year's playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There's all kinds of stuff there.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
So and Manny Machado remember, used to be a Dodger
and ended up with the Padres signing there so, I
mean they did the crying Kershaw do you remember that?
Oh yeah, from a couple of years ago. They beat
the Dodgers, and I don't know why the Dodgers are
so but hurt about this, but they did like a
meme of Kershaw crying and they're ringing Mission mel up
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on their JumboTron or their big screens. And there's a
lot of meat on the bone between the Dodgers and
the Padres. Now, Kirk Boom, Yeah, does it go way
back to the nineteenth century?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No?
Speaker 10 (33:54):
Does it speak to the expansion to the West coast
of Major League Baseball with the Dodger and the Giants
leaving Brooklyn and New York respectively, and then those colors
and the orange and blue being replaced and turned into
the New York Mets.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
You know, all of that stuff is.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Endless. It's it's a great rivalry. It's Vin Scully, It's
Willie Mays, It's Tommy Lasorda, it's Juan Marishal.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's all that stuff.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
But there's been a lot of fire and brimstone between
the Dodgers and the Padres for decades. And right now
the Padres, I know they have some financial issues. The owner,
who was a great owner, passed away, and I'm not
sure what the future is. I know their TV deal
is super weird. Like Major League Baseball, they have a
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great TV broadcast and Major League Baseball's in charge of
their TV broadcast. They have like the MLB Mike Flags
and stuff like that. But all that being said, I
think Munsy's right. I mean, the real rivalry, the one
hundred and twenty year old rivalry, is Dodgers versus Giants.
Now this, you know, this can change in a lot
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of ways. I mean it changed in the nineties for
Washington and Oregon right in the.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Pac twelve or Pac ten or pack whatever you wanted.
To call it.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Back then, it was Washington. Washington State is the Apple
cup Oregon Oregon State is the Civil War. And those
are great rivalries and everybody gets involved. But in the
last twenty years, the bigger rivalry in the Northwest that developed,
that of anger and hatred and Rick Neuheisel doing something,
is Washington versus Oregon and jealousy over who the blue
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blood in the Northwest is and Phil Knight and all that.
So these things can change, but it's Giants. Dodgers is
the West Coast Yankees Red Sox, And you know, yes,
it's great when the Red Sox played in Blue Jays
or whatever, but this is a little I mean, Dodgers
Padrez is exciting, but it doesn't have the breadth and depth.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Of the of the history.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Well I'm just gonna ask you that because it does
feel like ESPN still tries to churn out Yankees Red
Sox as if it's you know, twenty years ago and
you got Pedro Martinez assaulting Don Zimmer, like it's like, well.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
You know, did he assault Don Zimmer or did don
Zimmer charge it? That's fair, I mean, it's fair grabbed
Don Zimmer by the ear lobes and did a little
bit of an ola.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I mean, he handled bar his ears.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
You know, I don't want to see don Zimmer go
down like that. And then the worst part was he
went down and he didn't yet up. No, you know,
he just went He just dirted it, which.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Was, by the way, that was wild television back in
the day.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Oh, it was awesome.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
I mean it was like it was it was like
one of those simulations and AI you see, we're like
Trump and sitting in the Oval office and then he
just starts socking some.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
World leader Like that's not real, you know, but it
really happened. Uh yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
But yeah, Key's Red Sox still means a lot to
a lot of people, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I mean, I know ESPN runs it.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Out like like like Big Noon runs out Brady Quinn
versus Liner, and every.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Year Brady getting ready for that right now.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Oh yeah, Oh they're gonna watch the game and go
over it again. At least're have to.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
Listen to Reggie anyway. All I'm saying is, all I'm
saying is these things are cyclical. But for centuries we've
had Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers, Giants and all of
those great things and Dodgers Padres is really exciting within
the context of the major League season the last few years.
But I don't know if it has the staying power.
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If the Padres have the staying power, then then maybe
it will.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
M I'm gonna switch sports on you.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
You do see that? Okay, good with that. I'm fine.
I'm not you know, I'm not really a baseball expert,
believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I mean you sounded like you were all in on it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a testament to how good
you are at the craft that that you've chosen to
take on, you know, So I'm proud of you, Petros
than you look. That's that moment where it's like, you know,
two contemporaries that are the same age, you know, compliment
one another because it's like really cool to give a guy,
you know, his props and his just due. Like you're
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pretty dope dude at what you do. Anyway, let me
let me let me throw this one out at you.
Let me hurrow this one out at you.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Uh U c l A. They they were able.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
To get an offensive lineman that was coincidentally heading to
Penn State to flip and yeah, big time, big time.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Michael Jordan in the documentary and I took that personally.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And I took that person I bet you did.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, so Johnny Johnny d J. Jones, he's he's out
of Florida, which is interesting because everybody's recruiting nationally now.
And I know the last time we talked, you're like, listen,
they got to rope off Southern Cow and they gotta
get us. See that is has to get the talent
that's local. But I guess my question for you would
be seeing these these types of reports continue to pop up,
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how much do you think the NIL is playing a
part in how this goes? And do you think a
team like UCLA, who has historically not been aggressive and
active in trying to help the football team be able
to be competitive And that could be like taken by
offensively by some people who may say that, but that's true, true,
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but it is true they prioritize other things over that,
which isn't a bad thing, but just isn't conducive to
them being a national powerhouse or competitive team to try
to win it. Do you see this becoming the new trend?
And do you see teams or schools like a Ucla,
you know, comeing to the party and saying, look, NIL
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is going to allow for us to be able to
sign bigger prospects and bigger prospects from around the country.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Yeah, well it certainly does basketball wise. I mean UCLA
committed themselves to the NIL basketball wise. Some could say
they even did that under John.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Wooden when it wasn't legal, but those.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Are different stories for different times. But yeah, they paid
a lot of money basketball wise, and they were very
competitive in the NIL basketball wise in the last couple
of years for Mick Cronin, and that's made them nationally
relevant throughout the basketball season, which is very different obviously
from football. If we're talking about UCLA, it's very interesting
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because you're right, LeVar. I mean, even when I was
playing and afterwards, there was this big pr push for
UCLA to be like, we have one hundred plus national championships.
We have all these different sports, and that's great, not
necessarily a bad thing. But if you're going to have
a very special football program, you have to treat the
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football program in a very special way, and they have
to be treating separate from the rest of the sports.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
And I think that has.
Speaker 10 (41:04):
Been an issue for UCLA for years. I know for
a fact it's what pushed Chip Kelly out. Now you
can think that Chip Kelly underachieved at UCLA.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
You can think that he was a weirdo.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
You can say that he lost his offensive touch, and
maybe all of those things are true. But it's also
true that he didn't feel as if he got the
support necessary to compete even in the Pac twelve, let
alone going into the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
So all of those things are true.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
Now this offensive lineman that flipped from that, we're using
it as an example for the discussion. This guy from
Florida that flipped from UCLA to Penn State, Like, when
is this guy going to.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
Come to Pence State to Ucla? From Penn State to
Ucla to Ucla? When is this guy allegedly coming to school?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I mean he's next year, he's a twenty six er exactly.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
And this is the same with the USC High there's
a second the USC High train is like, oh my god,
these guys are coming in twenty twenty six. Everything's going
to change and this is going to be a great
recruiting class in twenty twenty six. And that's problematic for
a few reasons. Number one if you're a blue blood
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or a competitive college football program and Penn State says,
oh we had this guy, Oh we lost this guy. Okay, well,
or Penn State, we gotta keep on moving on. He
might end up coming back. The point is you can't
these guys. I mean, how many freshmen, even if there's
a great freshman class, especially at today's day and age
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where teams use the portal to fill gaps as opposed
to playing younger players, how many freshmen, unless it's Travis
Hunter or something, how many freshmen are really going to
contribute to your roster if you have let's say an eighteen,
which is very high for today's day and age. I
would imagine like an eighteen person from freshman class. Yeah,
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how many are going to contribute like twenty twenty six?
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Like five?
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Six? Five? Yeah, exactly right, six or five?
Speaker 10 (43:10):
And that's gonna save USC football a freshman class in
twenty twenty six. And then the crazy thing is is is.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
That guy really coming? You know? It's it's one.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
That's where I thought you were going with it, Like
are these recruits starting to use this now as a
recruiting a negotiating tool? Like all right, I don't have
any intentions on going to UCLA or wherever the school
may be. But i' musa say I'm gonna go here
because it shows that, well, i'll decommit. You're going to
assume that that decommitting is because of money. I mean,
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that's just safe to say that. That's what we're going
to assume. So now that opens the door. Said, well,
if he'll decommit from Penn State to go to UCLA,
then if I'm USC or somebody else, it's like, okay,
let's come in with a higher number and we land
the top recruit like by default.
Speaker 10 (43:58):
And is it very different with the d committing and
the committing and I'm taking this trip, I'm not taking
this trip. I mean, there is the money part involved,
and that may be a little bit more above the
table negotiation, But honestly, is it very different than when
we were recruited. Guys will commit, they'll de commit, they'll
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say they're coming. And another thing like, and I could
say this as a West Coast guy who doesn't know
his elbow from his ass as a young guy. You know,
it's one thing to live in Florida and be a
junior in high school and be like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
When I'm done, I'm going to Westwood.
Speaker 10 (44:36):
I'll see you in La, you know, and I pack
up the U haul you know, call you.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Know, she going to UCLA. Shed be trying to party.
I mean all of those things, you know.
Speaker 10 (44:47):
But then when it's actually in practice and you've got
to say goodbye to your mom and your East Coast
lifestyle and you live on the West Coast and not
everybody is into football at UCLA and there's fifteen thousand
people at the game hit the Rose Bowl that fits
one hundred, maybe you feel a little differently about it.
It's it's a fluid situation for these young people, and
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I don't I feel badly in a way that recruiting
and it happened, I don't know, twenty five years ago,
maybe more thirty years ago, that college football recruiting and
with the NIL and the transfer portal. I guess it's
not as much of a cottage industry as it was,
but it has become a real cottage industry as far
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as following where these young men are identifying these people
when they're very young, just like your son LeVar, and
then identifying them and then following where they're going to go,
and it's easy for us to sit here and point
fingers and be like, look at that kid.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
He transferred, you know.
Speaker 10 (45:49):
Five times, or he committed five transferring five times different,
but he committed five to five different schools.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
He said he was going to do this. He look
at his hat dance.
Speaker 10 (45:58):
His mom got up and walked out, And you know,
it's really easy to point fingers and laugh at people,
and really that's our job. But at the same time,
these are really young people, they really are, and there's
a lot of scrutiny on them. It is a very
difficult thing to be told you're a great football player
and you're going to have a great career when you're
a really young person, because you have no idea what
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that means or how it's going to play out. There
are so many different variables between you and greatness on
the field. And we really do a disservice to these
guys by the way we follow them. The cat is
out of the bag, there's no going back. But I
wish we gave them a little more grace because it's
hard to be young. It's hard to be young and
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sit in a room with a college football coach. You've
seen on television your whole life, and that guy asked
you to commit?
Speaker 5 (46:49):
What do you say?
Speaker 10 (46:51):
You know, I understand why these guys, you know, tell
five teams that they're going to be their girlfriend. It's
a very difficult thing as a young person to say
no to these people that are on your side and
seemingly want you to be part of what they're doing.
And it's it is kind of interesting. So I try
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to give these guys grace when they commit de commit,
go here, go there. I mean, if you really think
about it, what is modern college football recruiting? I mean,
there's a bunch of guys who preach twenty four to
seven about accountability, about keeping your word, about your commitment
to your teammates, about your commitment to living a good life,
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your commitment to being a great son or brother or
boyfriend or husband or father, all of these different things.
The lip service that we hear from college football coaches.
Yet all they do in recruiting is just bend their
legs backwards to get a young person to go back
on their word.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Think about that.
Speaker 10 (47:56):
I mean, that's the you know, I mean, we use
all these platts dud's about being a great person and
accountable and truth justice in the American way and put
the s on the chest. And really, these guys go
in somebody's room and be.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Like, forget what you said to Kirby Smart, come to
Old mass right, We're gonna take carry of the Kiffins.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Do you guys, Do you guys find yourself because I've
I've found myself getting more and more exhausted by the
storylines surrounding college football to where it's nil transfer portal
college football playoff twelve team sixteen automatic qualifiers. This conference
wants this, this conference. And I don't know if it's
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because I just longed for simpler times, but I find
myself worn out by the constant discussion about changes that
need to be made, and I just want to watch
the games.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Do Yeah? And the off season is exhausting.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, I mean really is.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I just want to get to the games, and that's true.
Speaker 10 (48:55):
And we're all striving to get to the games. And
I guess the NFL and the NBA have found different
ways to entertain people in the off season. You know,
even though nothing actually happens at the draft, everybody watches
like nothing actually happens. There's no real competition that you
know that that's not why we're watching. But and the
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NBA with their free agency and the way that works out,
and the hot takes from this person and that person
and who said what on a podcast, that offseason is
a lot more easily easily digested than what we have
in college football.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I think it's a good point, Jonas.
Speaker 10 (49:33):
But that being said, when the season rolls around and
we have the games, it feels a lot better, and
it feels a lot more natural, and it feels like
all is not lost, which is a good thing. But yeah,
the college football posts, I mean, this new committee that's
going to really enforce things. You know, it's like the
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the NCAA is hanging on by this skin. They're like
the Game Ambling Commission in the song Atlantic City. I mean,
they're barely hanging on. And and now they're gonna have
some new police siaka please. I mean these stories, I
mean Lincoln Riley trying to wriggle out of the Notre
Dame ro I mean, these off season stories are pathetic
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and they are they are unsavory, and you can't say
that they don't hurt the sport. I'm positive that they
hurt the sport. But when the season starts and we
have that going, that's good. I mean, I remember calling
a game and it was I forget who it was.
Oh it was Washington State Boise State, and it was
a good game. You know, John Mattier versus Ashton Gent.
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I mean, that's a hell of a game last year
for star Power and my play by play guy. Because
play by play guys can't help it. They always they
can't just call the game, you know, they always want
to bring up you know, we look what's going on
in the Mountain Wars, and you know, and and I
just said, look, I'm glad to be calling a game
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where the two teams aren't suing each other.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
By the way, I think I was watching that.
Speaker 10 (51:07):
It's true, right, like you know, I mean, at least
these two teams don't hate each other. They want to
be in the Pac twelve together in a couple of years.
So I mean, and I do feel like we should
dismiss those stories during the season because the season is
special and we still have that competition and the revealing
of virtue with young men working together, which is what
we like about college football. But uh, but I take
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your point. The off season is exhausting. And it's like
LeVar said, I mean this kid, I mean, this was
a big story. That offensive lineman that flipped. There was
a big story that some tight end the tight end
from not and.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Modern day that's it's a new day and age.
Speaker 10 (51:44):
Man U CLA's greatest on lineman ever is a Joe
Wow Jo Yeah Ogden who's from way out east, you know,
Maryland guy, what Saint Altman's prep?
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I believe so, I mean that's that's Uh.
Speaker 10 (51:59):
They've gotten a lot of a lot of UCLA doesn't
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needs to.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But I don't think it's possible for them to do
it unless they brought a big old brinch truck.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
They can't even well.
Speaker 10 (52:13):
The one time they tried to do it, Carl Drell
pulled a few d line types out of Crenshaw, big
kid named Bryce, remember him from Yeah, And Pete Carroll
got so mad he did that whole gang outreach thing
on sixty minutes. Remember he's wearing like a leather jacket.
Next thing, you know, Pete Carroll was like at at
Nickerson Gardens and Watts like.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 9 (52:35):
Man?
Speaker 4 (52:35):
That's going, let's compete.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
What are you doing? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Compete?
Speaker 5 (52:38):
Blood, Blood, break yourself. It's like, okay, Pete, I get it.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
You got mad that Carl Drel got one recruit, so
you bought a buck leather jacket, and now all of
a sudden you're like cool mode out there.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Okay, what's up?
Speaker 4 (52:55):
Blood?
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We'll do it again next week.
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Thank you, guys.
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Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
How we feeling here? Sticks, I mean, I'm here with you,
my guy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
That's That's all that anybody needs to know, is that
we're here together.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Brou what up? Bruh?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And there and there was no there was no hitting
then you windows, They're just we're here, like, I feel good.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Let's go right, I'm not, I'm not maybe, so yeah,
you're right, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
All right?
Speaker 6 (00:41):
So we had, uh, we had waited, uh to see
exactly how this was gonna go all right, because the
big news of the NFL offseason, outside of the Shador
Sanders uh drama going on in Cleveland, uh that started
the draft now is in Cleveland coverage and all that,
which we laid out yesterday, the big story was where
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is Aaron Rodgers going to end up if he decides
to play again? And as it turns out, the speculation
was right, it is Pittsburgh. And as it turns out
the report was true that Rogers did speak with the
media yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So let's first hear, let's we are.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Going to a question?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, well, we were going to we are we want.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
To hear the first three questions, because without even hearing it,
I'd like to believe that I make very very sound
decisions on things that I say, and I'm curious if
I hit the over or under on the question.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So here he was.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
This was Rogers talking with the media, just discussing the
overall general decision making on aligning with Pittsburgh, and also
Rogers being asked about the big question that you wanted
to know, is he married.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
Let's take a I don't need it for my ego.
I don't need it to keep playing a lot of
decisions that I've made over my career and life from
strictly the ego, even if they turn out well or
always unfulfilling, but the decisions made from the soul are
usually pretty fulfilling. So this was a decision that was
best for my soul. And I felt like being here
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with Coach t and the guys. They got here and
the opportunity here was the best for me, and I'm
excited to be here.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Not any for a ring or anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That wedding ring.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
It's a wedding ring, congratulation, thank you, I love it.
It's been a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I mean, so listen, a couple of months ago, Rogers
ended up tying the not as you speculated, you were correct,
and so now we.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Uh over on?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Uh so yeah, the do we have the over under
on it? Did Lee hear the press conference? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
So the big debate that we did for those that
were not listening a couple of days ago, was when
he does actually talk with the media, how long into
the press conference before he has asked about the wedding ring?
The over under was set on this show at three
and a half. Lavarn and I both took the under. Lee,
what are the results?
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Well, he was at the podium for about thirteen and
a half minutes and it didn't get till he didn't
get asked about the ring until about eleven minutes in.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I counted at least eighteen questions.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Okay, so basically Lee and Lorena won. But can I
defend Lvarn myself here? Why should we be held accountable
for the fact that the media didn't do their job?
Clearly there was a priority.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Clearly, Hello, I mean is that not the number one
question coming out of your mouth?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Duh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Did you get married?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I mean, even and I don't even have to ask.
I don't even have to ask what took so long?
Like he answered the question in in a different way
because they asked the question so open ended, right, which
is fine, give the answer to the way you want
to get an answer. I thought what he had to say,
by the way, with his sound bite was believable. I
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don't I don't know how I feel about it, because obviously,
looking at it as media, you say, okay, you can
understand somebody at his age having you know, done it
all and at this point it's for the love, and
you could say all right, as media, this makes for
(04:31):
an intriguing storyline to pay attention to because we're going
to see what that looks like in real time. You
don't get to fake it. You get to say this
is how I feel, this is for the love, and
I want to be here with Coach t and the
rest of the Steelers crew. Great, it sounds great, But
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the problem with hearing an older player say those types
of things, knowing that the younger MVP winning version, the
super Bowl winning version, the super Bowl appearance or in
NFC finals many two apparent in this He never made
it back to a super.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Bowl one Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, he's ross one game one game shbby right to Brady.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, there was that he's lost a couple of his
record in the NFC title.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Games, not great with Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So well, here's all I'll say is is that with
that same Aaron Rodgers answered the question in somewhat of
that manner, and I think we all know the answer
to that question. So I don't know this Aaron Rodgers, right,
I don't think any of us know this Aaron Rodgers.
(05:46):
So there's gonna be a lot of elements that come
into play with this. If you look at Aaron Rodgers,
you know, stat line last year, a lot of people
talked highly of what he was able to do, which
is fine. It wasn't bad. I mean he threw and
he hit four thousand yards, which is, by any stretch
of the imagination, elite. Right, you can't say that he's
(06:08):
not elite with the amount of yards he threw four
But he's turning the ball over these days too, and
it's a high number of interceptions. I believe it was
twelve last year that he threw eleven eleven.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I hate that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Maybe I just selectively made it twelve because I don't
want eleven to be a negative thing. But it was
double digits turnovers Jonas and it's not it's not I
think he's only done that. Maybe what one other time?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
There was a couple of times early in his career
he had early on or yeah, double digit.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It like what it's like what I don't I think
the numbers really low.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
That and his last year in Green Bay. So four
times in his career he's throwing double digit picks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's it's there's the recency effect of what it is,
what the stat represents, which is I don't know. Are
we saying he doesn't protect the ball as much? Are
we saying he's such an old head? He comes across
as like his hit the guy he prodecessed and Brett
Favre And he's a slinger. He he slings that that rock.
(07:24):
He's a he's a gun slinger. What which one is it?
I don't know which Aaron Rodgers We're going to get
somewhat say the more enlightened a player gets and the
older they get, the worse they become because you become
a person you're not really supposed to be a person
(07:47):
when you play the game. And I know That might
sound crazy because guys would be like, I treat us
like people don't treat us like.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You're like a superhero. So don't take it as a
derogatory term. I'm not making derogatory. I'm saying when you
first get into playing football and you're in high school
and you're in college, there's like this this superhero from within.
And I don't care if you're a starter and an
All American or a bench warming practice player. You are different.
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You are different. Your motivations are different, your energy is different,
your powers are different. Everything is different, Jonas. And then
you get older and you get married, or you have kids,
or you know, you see your parents getting older. Life happens.
(08:41):
And as you get older and you get wiser, and
you see more and more things come your way and
you've experienced more, it totally changes the essence of who
you are because life changes you. It's inevitable to change.
And so looking at listening to you know what he
(09:03):
had to say. I did listen to the interview. Obviously
I'm a fan. It's intriguing to me that he can
go into Pittsburgh, he can go into the AFC North
and talk about the perfect division to be able to
(09:23):
right your wrongs, to clean up things and to clean
up your reputation.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
If this is truly indeed a.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
One year deal. Yeah, But if I'm Aaron Rodgers, do
you look at it as this is a one year
deal and just settle in on that, or do you say,
you know what, I Am going to play my way
into another contract because I want to keep playing and
it just ultimately comes down to how I play and
how the Pittsburgh Steelers feel about me once we get
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through this first season.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
So you mentioned what to do with the numbers from
last year. He did fall shy of the four thousand
yard mark that you had mentioned, just you know, by
you know, a couple couple uns. Yeah, nothing, not a
big deal unless you're in Chicago and you've never had
a four thousand year a passer. But and then he
threw the eleven picks. My whole read on Rogers last year,
(10:17):
and what version we are getting this year is he
was with the Jets, you know what I mean, Like,
at a certain point that's just got to be got
to be discussed, and it's got to be discussed in
the sense that anybody who's been with the Jets by
and large has not worked. It's why Justin Field's decision
to choose the Jets over the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We can talk about the money, it's.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Okay, Well, I guess you're willing to run into that
chaos because you think you're going to be the one
to save the day. I look at Rogers and I go,
I'm fascinated to see how this works. Even Pete Prisco
spoke glowingly about Rogers down the stretch last year, and
it's hard to get Pete to say nice, nice things
about quarterback in the NFL. And so because of that,
(11:03):
I look at it and go, I don't know. I mean,
if we're going to base it on what version of
Rogers we're getting last year, it's like, well, you also
got a factor in the fact that he's not paired.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Up with a circus.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
He's not going to be a part of a of
a clown show like he was with the Jets and
like we've seen with that organization for years and years,
and maybe just maybe the stability of Pittsburgh is a
place where he goes to, and as we've discussed before,
he finds that more to his liking, similar to what
he had in Green Bay still similar to that stability,
(11:37):
and he says, this is a place I can operate
for my soul, as he mentioned, at my full capacity,
to close out my NFL career. And maybe we look
back on his time with the Jets and go, yeah,
he just got Jets, like that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He got Jets, and it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Different very possible. It's very possible. It's a logical conclusion
or logical knopsis of the scenario. I will say this,
Pittsburgh is a phenomenal place to play football and live.
It's an amazing place. The food is good, there's a
lot of things to do. There's different parts of Pittsburgh.
(12:17):
You have the city itself, but then you have all
of the outside surrounding suburban areas. I'm not sure where
he'll live from, maybe the south South End. He'll probably
live the south the south do they I don't know
if they call it the south side, but I will
say South End. Now, I'm pretty certain it's the South End,
(12:38):
and that's where I believe the practice facility.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Do they practice at at the stadium?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think they practice where the stadium is, which is
on the north Shore. I doubt he'll be living on
the North Shore. That's Manchester. That's where I grew up
and went to school. That's not the touristy part, even
though a lot of parts of Pittsburgh are changing.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
But maybe Digress, maybe Oakmont, you know, because the US
opens in town this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's a nice area. That's old money, good money out there.
So Wickley's good money. I know keisl lives out in
so Wicklely or whatever. I believe. Uh, I don't think
he'll live that far away from the facility, but he could.
You know. When when I was growing up, I lived
in Ross Township, and a lot of the Steelers I
used to see when I was on my way to school.
I used to see Greg Lloyd driving his black Uh.
(13:29):
It was pretty They were pretty uh popular vehicles back then.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I want to say.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It was a what did it? What are they called?
It was like a four runner, but it wasn't. It
was a bigger It was like a.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Lexus truck, a Toyota Tacoma.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, it wasn't a pickup. It wasn't a pickup. It
was like one of those luxury escalation feuvs. It was
not an escalat No, no, no, everybody was driving them.
It was like a land rover, but it was maybe
it was a land rover. Anyways, it was black and
he had gold realms. And I used to see him
at the stop light every once in a while, be like, man,
(14:06):
there's Greg Lloyd man head and to work. That's amazing
because he's one of my favorite players. So anyways, that
is at least with traffic, at least twenty thirty minutes
away from the facility. So I would assume, based upon
how things have developed in Pittsburgh and the things you
(14:29):
see and the things you can do, he most likely
will live somewhere on the South Side.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I doubt he'll get a house there, get a home,
but it wouldn't be a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean, it's a great market.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But you know, you would assume that he's not planning
on being there so long where he'd buy a home.
So you probably get like a nice little property, you know,
where it's like a townhouse or a condo or whatever,
down in the south side of the South End excuse me,
south end of town.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I mean listen, him and his Brian can enjoy uh,
you know, I stroll down Carson Street and go to
fat Heads. Love say Carson Street is the only place
I remember.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But I will say this, Pittsburgh underrated town.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You want to go and have fun for a weekend
because I don't think a lot of people think about it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'm hitting there soon, like in a day or so.
Shouts out to my man Brandon Short, the Carly Short Foundation.
Check it out, you know, be sure you find yourself
if your heart is in the right direction, you know,
maybe do something nice, you know, yeah, contribute. He's raising
money for for you know, a weirdness of gun violence
(15:43):
and stuff like that. So it was good good cause.
So I'm hitting there. I'll be downtown and I can't wait.
Super excited. Love love Pittsburgh. So that should be fun.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Go watch a Buccos again, go see the buckles of
there in town.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I'm just feeling like, at this point in time
in my life, you know, I just want to I
just want to go there and spend some time there
for my soul, you know something that you know, nothing
else really matters. I just want to be able to,
you know, get back home and you know, and feel good.
(16:19):
You feel that energy, And at this point in my career.
I don't really care if they pay me anything to
come to Pittsburgh. I'm just going to come and spend
time in the Burg. Sounds like a plan. It's a
good spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
I always pay when I go out. If you had noticed,
I never let you pay. I don't let people pay
when we go out. So Lee, Lee, I let Lee
pay at the at the hotel. What do you mean
do you pay?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah? What do you mean when we go?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, we don't ever go out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Have I've paid a couple of times?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Have you when.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
The Well we were at the graduate in State College
and I sneakily paid.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah you did. I don't remember.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Because because I just I was. It was my my
way to it was my getaway. Because I think you
and Lee had one shot and then you were like, let's.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Get another one, and.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Then it just.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Was off. Why can't I drink?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I don't really look like the type that would be
able to drink. Well, maybe I do. I don't know.
I don't know, but I can drink.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You are I'll give you credit for this because you've said,
like I can if I if I start, I can
just go all time. And I was, like, everybody says that.
And then in New Orleans, by the way, this is
not an exaggeration. In New Orleans, the Thursday before our
final show in New Orleans, we had a company meeting
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downstairs at the hotel bar that started at like noon.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
All right, we got off the air at eight am.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
LeVar went to the bar afterwards to get breakfast, had drinks, and.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I am not kidding.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
You did not leave that area until what ten o'clock
at night?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It was late.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You put in fourteen hours.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
In the late in the same shot, it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Was midnight, it was to midnight.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It was it was really.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Why were you up till midnightly?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, that night we were that day.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
That day I took it easy because that was after
my fall. That was the so you guys were going
after and I was kind of the.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Which which, by the way, the day you had your
fall was that the day we sat and drank hurricanes
at the.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
At the ball. I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think that is how that day started out. It
wasn't that the day after. It was the day after.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, because the Thursday, the Thursday, that wasn't the
day me and Lee sat together. I don't believe. I
think I came in and I got breakfast and started drinking,
and then they came in, and I ain't know they
were doing all that lunch and stuff like that, so
I'd start drinking with y'all. Then I went back to
the bar, started drinking over at the bar, and you
(19:23):
know B Mitch and B Mitch can can throw down
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
So I ended up setting with B Mitch a few times.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I mean, I don't leave.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
If you notice, I do not leave my hotel.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I'm not like I do not venture out to.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
People do venture out. I don't venture out.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
I'll see if you can find a hotel with a
decent bar downstairs with a good.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Sitting area, that's it.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You can see me.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You could see me passed out on if they got
a comfortable couch, and if they got what a comfortable
couch or a nice lounge area near the pool, you
can find me near the pool getting drinks or in
the lobby getting drinks that they have comfortable seating.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
And you know what was rough was Vegas year because
we were in the hotel, we were in the casino
the entire week.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
We didn't even get fresh air all week long.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But here's the thing. I treated New Orleans or anywhere
else that we stayed. I treated it the same exact way.
When we were in Arizona. I never left. I never left. Yeah,
I never left out of the hotel. When we were
in Vegas, I never left.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
When we were in New Orleans, I never left. I
never left.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
The only time I go outside the hotels when we go,
do to radio.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
There's no reason to Food was weird, setup was good, nuts,
It's comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The first day, the first day I got there, I
wanted some chicken wings and I said, where are the
best wings at? And they told this one spot and
I'd start walking. Then I realized, yeah, I'm not going
to do this again. I am not going to venture out,
not one more time.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
The best by the way.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
By the way, I did like cow on So because
you know, Thursday night we all hung out and faceally
took over the hotel lobby and the next morning Brady's like,
by the way, did you notice how I took my
headphones off in the middle of the first segment. I
was like, yeah, what was that about? He goes, I
was gonna throw up.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He's like, I thought it was. I thought it was
going to lose everything.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
He goes, So I literally thought, I need to get
to the bathroom right away because.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We went so hard the night before. Brady was we.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, we went we went hard, bro We went hard.
When I can feel it, like when I can feel
the fact.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
That I have drank too much.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
We have done something extraordinarily and incorrect and irresponsible.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
How many, by the way, how many meals did you
have down there at that same hotel?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't eat well. I mean during the course of
the week. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I mean, our single handed league had handled breakfast for him.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
They took off your favorite they took off your favorite.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Zo but gave it to me. But didn't they put
it back. I mean they made it for me, So
that was cool. Yeah, that was I want to steak
and eggs. I love steaking eggs in the morning.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Man. That's my dip.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
No, well, not paying people is the dip of the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's the Bengals dip.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Here on two pros and a cup of Joe, so
much so that Shamar Stewart, the rookie of the Cincinnati Bengals,
the first round draft pick the defensive end, he's.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
In a little bit of a little bit of a dispute.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The way this is being reported is that the contractual
hold up is due to the language of the deal
that the Bengals are trying to set a new precedent
with rookie contracts. It's going to give them the ability
to weight guarantees in their contracts, and Stuart wants to
have the same contract that every other rookie's gotten in
(23:07):
Cincinnati over the past however many years. You want to
lump in together. And so Shamar Stewart talked yesterday about
the situation and had this to say as.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
In how far I'll take it, I mean, it just depends.
Like in my case, I'm one hundred percent right, I'm
gonna ask for nothing I've never done before. But in
y'all casey, I just want to win arguments that Winny
more games.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
In my opinion, I know business is business in football
is football, but have the veterans said anything.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Has there been any reaction at all with your situation.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
It's made it very easy when the people in air
locker room say you're doing the right things, especially the
star players.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It just puts that so stars in here. I'm not
asking names, but stars have said do what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, I mean, how many more?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I mean, who would sign a contract if if what
you're saying is if that's like the accuracy of it,
of just making it super simple. What guy would sign
a contract where the team is able to avoid all
your you know.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean all your guarantees.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And he's not like it's his point.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
He's not asking for something different than what they've done historically.
What they've done historically is what he's asking for. They're
trying to do something new this year, and.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I just think that if you want to do something new,
do what the other Cleveland team does. Just guarantee at all. Yeah,
go in the right direction. I'm going the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm with you. You want to do something different.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You don't want me to hold out, you want me
to be happy, you know what, Just fully guarantee the
hold entire contract.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Go ahead and jump, Just go ahead and do it.
I'm with you. It's also I mean, Trey Hendrickson is
not reported.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I'm not like why they don't love their defensive players.
I don't know their defense.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
And by the way, they asked Joe Brow yesterday're like,
is this a distraction? He's like yeah, He's like, yeah,
all we had two distractions last year.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
We've got another one this year. It's like, you know,
so we're down.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
One distractions this year. Yeah, because Hendrickson wanted money last year.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Did yeah, Hendrickson, Yeah. The Jamar Chase situation just and
I know that it's a mom and pop organization and
it's family run and all that, But at some point,
do the Bengals not look and go. You know, there's
a common theme here. It's we've got players, really good players,
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and they and they all have the same gripe and
complaint over and over and over again. At some point,
do the Bengals want to like step up and go
Maybe it's us, Maybe we got to adjust.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How we're doing have we're operating things here?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, when when you continue to do those things,
you're either insane or you're super successful. Their business model
must work for them, you know what our business model
is for them might not necessarily be what their business
model is for them. So that's what I would say.
We're talking about a franchise, you know, what is their motivations?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
What you know? How how do you measure success? I
really do be.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Wondering that sometimes for some of these these franchises, like
how do you measure what you're gauging? If you were
to tell thee hundred percent truth to the public, how
do you measure success? Well?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Because it always comes to the bottom line. It always
comes back to that.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
If you're ask an owner, would you rather win a
Super Bowl or make a bunch of money? And I
know they're you know, one and the same.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I would say, I was about to say, I would
think that you say they're one and the same because
if you do win Super Bowls that that probably will
lead to you making more money, which is which is
weird to me because if you're going to spend the
type of money to get to the Super Bowls, win
the Super Bowls, like, think about how much money do
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you the Kansas City Chiefs have earned since Patrick Mahomes
has become the quarterback, the starting quarterback of Casey And
then you ask yourself.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Okay, with the way that.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We're running our organization, does it make sense to keep
all of these guys happy? And if it's the guys
that we're not going to keep happy and we're going
to let go, then how do we replace them? And
that is generally a great position for a general manager
to be in because it's not a hard sale to say, hey,
we got to keep Chris Jones, Hey we got to
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keep Patrick Mahomes. You know, these are the people that
we have to keep. Are the other people interchangeable? They
have seemingly been so. But think about the value of
that franchise.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Now, did you when you were in Washington, Because you know,
Shamar Stewart's mentioning man veterans here with the team star
players are telling me you're doing the right thing. When
you're in Washington and like a rookie came in or
a new player came in, did you ever pull them
aside and be like, hey, just see, you know place
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did, But I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I wasn't one of those type of guys that was
actively seeking guys out. Like if you came and sat
with me or we were on the practice field or whatever.
I was more about just having a good time, just
the camaraderie of it.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
But if somebody had a question.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
You know, you know about how things were handled or
things they should think about, or dues and not to
do's and stuff like that. Sure I had those conversations,
but I was never I can I can't recall really
ever having like bad mouth conversations, you know what I mean,
Like I, they ain't giving you your money, because I
always stayed away from money with players, Like there are
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some players that that's all that drove them, like, oh
you you make this da da da, or shut up
full you don't make enough money?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Da da dad?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Just that Like I never was one of them dudes,
you know. So you know, some guys make it about money.
I never made it about that. Some guys, you know,
like to insert themselves into situation pause in the situations
that aren't necessarily theirs. And I just was always one
of them dudes that just you know, I'm around, you
know I'm around, but I ain't gonna get in your business.
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So I probably wouldn't have been one of them dudes
that was saying you're doing the right thing. Unless he
came up to me and been like, you know, Varr,
what am I supposed to do? Da da da, this,
that and the other, And then I'm like, Okay, explain
to me the situation. I want to fully understand the situation.
Then I'll, you know, let's come up with solutions.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But if he were to tell me that they're trying
to give me a contract that's different than in any
other rookie, and that they're trying to say that I
should have my they should be able to avoid my guarantees,
I would tell him you you can't.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You know, you can't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't tell them.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I wouldn't advise a guy to do something I wouldn't
do myself, and I wouldn't do that deal.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
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Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's popping with hello U BA make it?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Petro?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Did you know that sound? Did you prefer that?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Did you prefer that one of the previous one, which
I think ladder?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I'm with.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
You, but the previous, the previous the former was awful,
and then you know, so was the ladder.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Let's be honest, but yeah, you know it's a little
bit of an improvement.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
It's not Project Pat Chickenhead. Now, that would be something
and we could all get to.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
But I mean that's a good bit. You need a
gun chicken chicken he What can I do for you
guys today? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Petros?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I got a I didn't know that this was a
topic of conversation. But some people are trying to judge
whether or not the Dodgers Padres is a rivalry.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
I think it's a certainly a twenty first century deal, right.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I mean, Max Mountsey said that the Giants Dodgers is
more of a rivalry, that that's a real rivalry, trying to.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Dismiss the Padres.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
I mean, it's like saying, you know, there's rivalries that
last the hundreds of years. There's rivalries that go back
to the birth of the sport, kind of like USC
Notre Dame, something we've been talking about a lot over
the last few years. And there's rivalries that are of
interest now because San Diego has Manny Machado and Tatis
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and Jackson Merrill and they're a.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Good baseball team.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
And the Giants just won six straight albeit there playing
the Rockies mostly. But it's a great division. The NL
West is an absolute fireball right now, and it's fun
to watch because, and you know, the talking point from
the Dodger people is, well, the only reason the division
is this close is because the Dodgers are so beat
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up and they don't have any pitching and all of
their pitching guys are hurt. And now they're slowly coming back.
Blake Snell's working out again, Toddi's getting ready to pitch,
maybe even before the All Star break.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
So there's a lot of movement there. But yeah. I
mean people go to the.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Games in mass the games are all sold out. They're
screaming the entire time. There's a lot of social media
buzz and excitement and action. They met each other in
the playoffs every year, it seems, and have epic battles,
and there's vitriol between the managers between from the last
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year's playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There's all kinds of stuff there.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
So and Manny Machado remember, used to be a Dodger
and ended up with the Padres signing there so, I
mean they did the crying Kershaw do you remember that?
Oh yeah, from a couple of years ago. They beat
the Dodgers, and I don't know why the Dodgers are
so but hurt about this, but they did like a
meme of Kershaw crying and they're ringing Mission mel up
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on their JumboTron or their big screens. And there's a
lot of meat on the bone between the Dodgers and
the Padres. Now, Kirk Boom, Yeah, does it go way
back to the nineteenth century?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No?
Speaker 10 (33:54):
Does it speak to the expansion to the West coast
of Major League Baseball with the Dodger and the Giants
leaving Brooklyn and New York respectively, and then those colors
and the orange and blue being replaced and turned into
the New York Mets.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
You know, all of that stuff is.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Endless. It's it's a great rivalry. It's Vin Scully, It's
Willie Mays, It's Tommy Lasorda, it's Juan Marishal.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's all that stuff.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
But there's been a lot of fire and brimstone between
the Dodgers and the Padres for decades. And right now
the Padres, I know they have some financial issues. The owner,
who was a great owner, passed away, and I'm not
sure what the future is. I know their TV deal
is super weird. Like Major League Baseball, they have a
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great TV broadcast and Major League Baseball's in charge of
their TV broadcast. They have like the MLB Mike Flags
and stuff like that. But all that being said, I
think Munsy's right. I mean, the real rivalry, the one
hundred and twenty year old rivalry, is Dodgers versus Giants.
Now this, you know, this can change in a lot
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of ways. I mean it changed in the nineties for
Washington and Oregon right in the.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Pac twelve or Pac ten or pack whatever you wanted.
To call it.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Back then, it was Washington. Washington State is the Apple
cup Oregon Oregon State is the Civil War. And those
are great rivalries and everybody gets involved. But in the
last twenty years, the bigger rivalry in the Northwest that developed,
that of anger and hatred and Rick Neuheisel doing something,
is Washington versus Oregon and jealousy over who the blue
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blood in the Northwest is and Phil Knight and all that.
So these things can change, but it's Giants. Dodgers is
the West Coast Yankees Red Sox, And you know, yes,
it's great when the Red Sox played in Blue Jays
or whatever, but this is a little I mean, Dodgers
Padrez is exciting, but it doesn't have the breadth and depth.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Of the of the history.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Well I'm just gonna ask you that because it does
feel like ESPN still tries to churn out Yankees Red
Sox as if it's you know, twenty years ago and
you got Pedro Martinez assaulting Don Zimmer, like it's like, well.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
You know, did he assault Don Zimmer or did don
Zimmer charge it? That's fair, I mean, it's fair grabbed
Don Zimmer by the ear lobes and did a little
bit of an ola.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I mean, he handled bar his ears.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
You know, I don't want to see don Zimmer go
down like that. And then the worst part was he
went down and he didn't yet up. No, you know,
he just went He just dirted it, which.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Was, by the way, that was wild television back in
the day.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Oh, it was awesome.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
I mean it was like it was it was like
one of those simulations and AI you see, we're like
Trump and sitting in the Oval office and then he
just starts socking some.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
World leader Like that's not real, you know, but it
really happened. Uh yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
But yeah, Key's Red Sox still means a lot to
a lot of people, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I mean, I know ESPN runs it.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Out like like like Big Noon runs out Brady Quinn
versus Liner, and every.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Year Brady getting ready for that right now.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Oh yeah, Oh they're gonna watch the game and go
over it again. At least're have to.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
Listen to Reggie anyway. All I'm saying is, all I'm
saying is these things are cyclical. But for centuries we've
had Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers, Giants and all of
those great things and Dodgers Padres is really exciting within
the context of the major League season the last few years.
But I don't know if it has the staying power.
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If the Padres have the staying power, then then maybe
it will.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
M I'm gonna switch sports on you.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
You do see that? Okay, good with that. I'm fine.
I'm not you know, I'm not really a baseball expert,
believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I mean you sounded like you were all in on it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a testament to how good
you are at the craft that that you've chosen to
take on, you know, So I'm proud of you, Petros
than you look. That's that moment where it's like, you know,
two contemporaries that are the same age, you know, compliment
one another because it's like really cool to give a guy,
you know, his props and his just due. Like you're
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pretty dope dude at what you do. Anyway, let me
let me let me throw this one out at you.
Let me hurrow this one out at you.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Uh U c l A. They they were able.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
To get an offensive lineman that was coincidentally heading to
Penn State to flip and yeah, big time, big time.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Michael Jordan in the documentary and I took that personally.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And I took that person I bet you did.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, so Johnny Johnny d J. Jones, he's he's out
of Florida, which is interesting because everybody's recruiting nationally now.
And I know the last time we talked, you're like, listen,
they got to rope off Southern Cow and they gotta
get us. See that is has to get the talent
that's local. But I guess my question for you would
be seeing these these types of reports continue to pop up,
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how much do you think the NIL is playing a
part in how this goes? And do you think a
team like UCLA, who has historically not been aggressive and
active in trying to help the football team be able
to be competitive And that could be like taken by
offensively by some people who may say that, but that's true, true,
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but it is true they prioritize other things over that,
which isn't a bad thing, but just isn't conducive to
them being a national powerhouse or competitive team to try
to win it. Do you see this becoming the new trend?
And do you see teams or schools like a Ucla,
you know, comeing to the party and saying, look, NIL
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is going to allow for us to be able to
sign bigger prospects and bigger prospects from around the country.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Yeah, well it certainly does basketball wise. I mean UCLA
committed themselves to the NIL basketball wise. Some could say
they even did that under John.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Wooden when it wasn't legal, but those.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Are different stories for different times. But yeah, they paid
a lot of money basketball wise, and they were very
competitive in the NIL basketball wise in the last couple
of years for Mick Cronin, and that's made them nationally
relevant throughout the basketball season, which is very different obviously
from football. If we're talking about UCLA, it's very interesting
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because you're right, LeVar. I mean, even when I was
playing and afterwards, there was this big pr push for
UCLA to be like, we have one hundred plus national championships.
We have all these different sports, and that's great, not
necessarily a bad thing. But if you're going to have
a very special football program, you have to treat the
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football program in a very special way, and they have
to be treating separate from the rest of the sports.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
And I think that has.
Speaker 10 (41:04):
Been an issue for UCLA for years. I know for
a fact it's what pushed Chip Kelly out. Now you
can think that Chip Kelly underachieved at UCLA.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
You can think that he was a weirdo.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
You can say that he lost his offensive touch, and
maybe all of those things are true. But it's also
true that he didn't feel as if he got the
support necessary to compete even in the Pac twelve, let
alone going into the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
So all of those things are true.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
Now this offensive lineman that flipped from that, we're using
it as an example for the discussion. This guy from
Florida that flipped from UCLA to Penn State, Like, when
is this guy going to.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
Come to Pence State to Ucla? From Penn State to
Ucla to Ucla? When is this guy allegedly coming to school?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I mean he's next year, he's a twenty six er exactly.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
And this is the same with the USC High there's
a second the USC High train is like, oh my god,
these guys are coming in twenty twenty six. Everything's going
to change and this is going to be a great
recruiting class in twenty twenty six. And that's problematic for
a few reasons. Number one if you're a blue blood
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or a competitive college football program and Penn State says,
oh we had this guy, Oh we lost this guy. Okay, well,
or Penn State, we gotta keep on moving on. He
might end up coming back. The point is you can't
these guys. I mean, how many freshmen, even if there's
a great freshman class, especially at today's day and age
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where teams use the portal to fill gaps as opposed
to playing younger players, how many freshmen, unless it's Travis
Hunter or something, how many freshmen are really going to
contribute to your roster if you have let's say an eighteen,
which is very high for today's day and age. I
would imagine like an eighteen person from freshman class. Yeah,
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how many are going to contribute like twenty twenty six?
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Like five?
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Six? Five? Yeah, exactly right, six or five?
Speaker 10 (43:10):
And that's gonna save USC football a freshman class in
twenty twenty six. And then the crazy thing is is is.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
That guy really coming? You know? It's it's one.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
That's where I thought you were going with it, Like
are these recruits starting to use this now as a
recruiting a negotiating tool? Like all right, I don't have
any intentions on going to UCLA or wherever the school
may be. But i' musa say I'm gonna go here
because it shows that, well, i'll decommit. You're going to
assume that that decommitting is because of money. I mean,
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that's just safe to say that. That's what we're going
to assume. So now that opens the door. Said, well,
if he'll decommit from Penn State to go to UCLA,
then if I'm USC or somebody else, it's like, okay,
let's come in with a higher number and we land
the top recruit like by default.
Speaker 10 (43:58):
And is it very different with the d committing and
the committing and I'm taking this trip, I'm not taking
this trip. I mean, there is the money part involved,
and that may be a little bit more above the
table negotiation, But honestly, is it very different than when
we were recruited. Guys will commit, they'll de commit, they'll
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say they're coming. And another thing like, and I could
say this as a West Coast guy who doesn't know
his elbow from his ass as a young guy. You know,
it's one thing to live in Florida and be a
junior in high school and be like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
When I'm done, I'm going to Westwood.
Speaker 10 (44:36):
I'll see you in La, you know, and I pack
up the U haul you know, call you.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Know, she going to UCLA. Shed be trying to party.
I mean all of those things, you know.
Speaker 10 (44:47):
But then when it's actually in practice and you've got
to say goodbye to your mom and your East Coast
lifestyle and you live on the West Coast and not
everybody is into football at UCLA and there's fifteen thousand
people at the game hit the Rose Bowl that fits
one hundred, maybe you feel a little differently about it.
It's it's a fluid situation for these young people, and
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I don't I feel badly in a way that recruiting
and it happened, I don't know, twenty five years ago,
maybe more thirty years ago, that college football recruiting and
with the NIL and the transfer portal. I guess it's
not as much of a cottage industry as it was,
but it has become a real cottage industry as far
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as following where these young men are identifying these people
when they're very young, just like your son LeVar, and
then identifying them and then following where they're going to go,
and it's easy for us to sit here and point
fingers and be like, look at that kid.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
He transferred, you know.
Speaker 10 (45:49):
Five times, or he committed five transferring five times different,
but he committed five to five different schools.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
He said he was going to do this. He look
at his hat dance.
Speaker 10 (45:58):
His mom got up and walked out, And you know,
it's really easy to point fingers and laugh at people,
and really that's our job. But at the same time,
these are really young people, they really are, and there's
a lot of scrutiny on them. It is a very
difficult thing to be told you're a great football player
and you're going to have a great career when you're
a really young person, because you have no idea what
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that means or how it's going to play out. There
are so many different variables between you and greatness on
the field. And we really do a disservice to these
guys by the way we follow them. The cat is
out of the bag, there's no going back. But I
wish we gave them a little more grace because it's
hard to be young. It's hard to be young and
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sit in a room with a college football coach. You've
seen on television your whole life, and that guy asked
you to commit?
Speaker 5 (46:49):
What do you say?
Speaker 10 (46:51):
You know, I understand why these guys, you know, tell
five teams that they're going to be their girlfriend. It's
a very difficult thing as a young person to say
no to these people that are on your side and
seemingly want you to be part of what they're doing.
And it's it is kind of interesting. So I try
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to give these guys grace when they commit de commit,
go here, go there. I mean, if you really think
about it, what is modern college football recruiting? I mean,
there's a bunch of guys who preach twenty four to
seven about accountability, about keeping your word, about your commitment
to your teammates, about your commitment to living a good life,
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your commitment to being a great son or brother or
boyfriend or husband or father, all of these different things.
The lip service that we hear from college football coaches.
Yet all they do in recruiting is just bend their
legs backwards to get a young person to go back
on their word.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Think about that.
Speaker 10 (47:56):
I mean, that's the you know, I mean, we use
all these platts dud's about being a great person and
accountable and truth justice in the American way and put
the s on the chest. And really, these guys go
in somebody's room and be.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Like, forget what you said to Kirby Smart, come to
Old mass right, We're gonna take carry of the Kiffins.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Do you guys, Do you guys find yourself because I've
I've found myself getting more and more exhausted by the
storylines surrounding college football to where it's nil transfer portal
college football playoff twelve team sixteen automatic qualifiers. This conference
wants this, this conference. And I don't know if it's
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because I just longed for simpler times, but I find
myself worn out by the constant discussion about changes that
need to be made, and I just want to watch
the games.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Do Yeah? And the off season is exhausting.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, I mean really is.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I just want to get to the games, and that's true.
Speaker 10 (48:55):
And we're all striving to get to the games. And
I guess the NFL and the NBA have found different
ways to entertain people in the off season. You know,
even though nothing actually happens at the draft, everybody watches
like nothing actually happens. There's no real competition that you
know that that's not why we're watching. But and the
(49:18):
NBA with their free agency and the way that works out,
and the hot takes from this person and that person
and who said what on a podcast, that offseason is
a lot more easily easily digested than what we have
in college football.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I think it's a good point, Jonas.
Speaker 10 (49:33):
But that being said, when the season rolls around and
we have the games, it feels a lot better, and
it feels a lot more natural, and it feels like
all is not lost, which is a good thing. But yeah,
the college football posts, I mean, this new committee that's
going to really enforce things. You know, it's like the
(49:56):
the NCAA is hanging on by this skin. They're like
the Game Ambling Commission in the song Atlantic City. I mean,
they're barely hanging on. And and now they're gonna have
some new police siaka please. I mean these stories, I
mean Lincoln Riley trying to wriggle out of the Notre
Dame ro I mean, these off season stories are pathetic
(50:18):
and they are they are unsavory, and you can't say
that they don't hurt the sport. I'm positive that they
hurt the sport. But when the season starts and we
have that going, that's good. I mean, I remember calling
a game and it was I forget who it was.
Oh it was Washington State Boise State, and it was
a good game. You know, John Mattier versus Ashton Gent.
(50:40):
I mean, that's a hell of a game last year
for star Power and my play by play guy. Because
play by play guys can't help it. They always they
can't just call the game, you know, they always want
to bring up you know, we look what's going on
in the Mountain Wars, and you know, and and I
just said, look, I'm glad to be calling a game
(51:02):
where the two teams aren't suing each other.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
By the way, I think I was watching that.
Speaker 10 (51:07):
It's true, right, like you know, I mean, at least
these two teams don't hate each other. They want to
be in the Pac twelve together in a couple of years.
So I mean, and I do feel like we should
dismiss those stories during the season because the season is
special and we still have that competition and the revealing
of virtue with young men working together, which is what
we like about college football. But uh, but I take
(51:30):
your point. The off season is exhausting. And it's like
LeVar said, I mean this kid, I mean, this was
a big story. That offensive lineman that flipped. There was
a big story that some tight end the tight end
from not and.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Modern day that's it's a new day and age.
Speaker 10 (51:44):
Man U CLA's greatest on lineman ever is a Joe
Wow Jo Yeah Ogden who's from way out east, you know,
Maryland guy, what Saint Altman's prep?
Speaker 5 (51:55):
I believe so, I mean that's that's Uh.
Speaker 10 (51:59):
They've gotten a lot of a lot of UCLA doesn't
really build the fence in La the way that sc
needs to.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But I don't think it's possible for them to do
it unless they brought a big old brinch truck.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
They can't even well.
Speaker 10 (52:13):
The one time they tried to do it, Carl Drell
pulled a few d line types out of Crenshaw, big
kid named Bryce, remember him from Yeah, And Pete Carroll
got so mad he did that whole gang outreach thing
on sixty minutes. Remember he's wearing like a leather jacket.
Next thing, you know, Pete Carroll was like at at
Nickerson Gardens and Watts like.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 9 (52:35):
Man?
Speaker 4 (52:35):
That's going, let's compete.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
What are you doing? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Compete?
Speaker 5 (52:38):
Blood, Blood, break yourself. It's like, okay, Pete, I get it.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
You got mad that Carl Drel got one recruit, so
you bought a buck leather jacket, and now all of
a sudden you're like cool mode out there.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Okay, what's up?
Speaker 4 (52:55):
Blood?
Speaker 12 (52:57):
Get him on X at the old p He is Petros,
the the homie, Hey, strap brother.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
He's the city right now recruiting some pre.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
He's the coast of the Petrous money Show, which you
can hear on the blow Towards and five seventy l
A Sports Fox college football analyst pe, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
There he is. We are great, uh t Papa. Fox
Sports guys.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
From US a USC say we are too. Yeah, there
you go.
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