Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Cal Raleigh puts ona  show at the Home Run Derby but not everyone is impressed. SEC Commissioner, Greg Sankey, lays out how they and the Big Ten have different philosophies on the College Football Playoff. Plus, NFL Insider, Pete Prisco, celebrates the return of Brady from paternity leave, the return of football, paying Garrett Wilson and much more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The Hell's going on here? Little Taco Tuesday?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, how about the.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
How about the big dumper last night? Huh are you
calling him that? That's his nickname, the Big Dumper?

Speaker 5 (00:31):
All right, all right, all right, No one looks as
big as O'Neill cruise up there about though.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
My goodness, that guy's a unit.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Why did this guy's playing baseball if you're if you're
six seven, like you couldn't hit a jump shot.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I mean he makes it look easy, the the way
he swings the batman.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, he's pretty uh pretty pres money ain't bad either.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's not like you you downgraded back playing baseball over
you know, to that over basketball. But yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
They were piping the ball last night. Were yep, to
rocket shows.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
That's what it was. I mean absolute lasers. There was
some o'ne ola cruz head. I was like, that's a
pop fly. Nope, just kept sailing out of the stadium.
It was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was fun to watch, incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I think those balls were juiced up at all, or
juiced anything kind of help out with the uh, the
ball flying a little bit. They've done it, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So they've admitted to it. They've admitted to it.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, they've doctor.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Let me let me first step back for a second
and ask you this. Do you guys like the format.
I'm gonna sit this one out. I'm so glad you're back.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Cue. I certainly would not have wanted to do this
so well. So yeah, I mean, baseball it's boring.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's boring, okay, but the home run derby, the home
run derby might be the most American thing.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
We have in all of sports. All Star games. Yeah,
I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, because it's like I just it's it's like, I
take this bat, you throw me a ball, I'm gonna
hit as far as I can. Like that is so
American when you really break it down. And I think
one of the things that I remember as a child,
I used to love about it. And I think like
everyone who you know played their own home run derby
probably felt this way. That was it was simple, but

(02:23):
was what it was like you either hit her or
the fence or you don't. And now I just I
feel like there's it's a little gimmicky, like the whole
I mean at the timeout's fine, I guess, but even
like the number of pitches, Like, Okay, if a batter
can stand up there for three minutes and take as
many cuts as he as a guy who's throwing it
can throw to him, that's strategy.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Like I'm fine with that.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I don't think we need to limit how many pitches
they get and then the whole bonus rounds Just it's
just weird, you know, it's just weird, Like why is
four twenty five the number? Like, why is that the
number they have to hit to get the extra out?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
It's also I think it was what three hours, Like
it took a right, about three hours seems a bit
long for for a home run. Derby probably get that
wrapped up in two.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Right, Yeah, you probably could have won without Jazz Chisholm
just wasting everyone's time.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh geez, but he's a Yankee.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
That's you gotta represent a.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Little, which which leads to another poet. Go Go ahead,
go ahead, make your point.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Go well, why are we not having like some of
the best in the league do this, Like I'm watching
Aaron Judge go out there, and I'm like, wait, a second,
why is it judging this?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
This is this baseball's night.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
If they're not careful about this, they could this could
become the dunk.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Contest where you have to go to get mac McClung
to go save you to make it like noteworthy, like
what are they gonna get?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Get the Savannah bananas next? Oh?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
The What I had heard is that there's some players
that feel like it'll mess up their swing that they
don't wanna They don't want to do anything to affect
their swing for the second half of the season. So
that's why they don't participate. Whether or not that's legitimate
or not. Maybe they just want to hang out. Does
that make sense? Isn't a swing a swing? That's just
isn't that just like practice? Yeah, it could be creating

(04:10):
bad habits.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
It almost feels like that's a cop out. It's just
they'd like a day off.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
So if you were having a driving contest, like say
you're having a a you know, an All Stars driver
contest and golf, like, would would a golfer say the
same thing?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Honestly.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
I mean if you look at like the long drive guys,
if that's like the comparison here. I mean, those guys
don't end up being on the PGA tour. I mean
they're trying to be. The drivers are different, the way
they're made and everything else. Oh yeah, he's got this
fast hands man. You gotta be careful Nowlivar. He gets through,

(04:50):
He gets through that ball, man gets to that stroke.
But uh, oh man, that took me back for a second.
I think, if that it's the comparison, you know, would
so I think from that standpoint, you're probably right, LeVar,
But I don't know. I just I mean, cal Rawley's
leading the league in home runs right now. He doesn't

(05:11):
seem to be concerned by it. He just won it.
It's like, isn't everyone's strategy now? Like for certain guys,
they're just swinging for the fences every time.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, it's not the days of somebody approaching four hundred
or any of that.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Those days are gone.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Like it's all about you know, can you slug?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know, people don't lay down bunch anymore. You're not
moving runners over very often. It's just the whole game
has changed. Everything's changed.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I would say this, anybody use a different shaft out there.
I got full, full transparency. I did not watch damn
just full. We play some taps for LeVar. I mean,
we play some taps for them. I hope I base
some baseball off of my my my nationalism here and

(06:00):
being American, let me let me here we go. Did
not watch it. Watch I wasn't interested. It wasn't interesting.
What you do? Saw it too? Saw it like? Saw
it pop up like Home Run Derby? Right? And I
just kept on going, kept on scrolling.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
What'd you do? Instead?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I drank a bear. I did drink a beer and
and uh, I went to Netflix. I gotta be I
went to Netflix. What did you watch on Netflix? Uh? Well,
my daughter's birthday is tomorrow, so so we've been hanging
out doing movie time. So when I was looking at it,

(06:48):
I was like, I wondered would my kids be into
and her friend is over so would they be into
watching the Home Run Derby? And then I was like, wait,
would I be into watching the Home Run Derby? And
I was like, well, kids, what do you want to watch?
And they were like Netflix, And we watched something called

(07:08):
I want to say, Relentless or something. I don't know.
It's like reading a book for me made me fall asleep.
So whatever it was, it was boring, but nonetheless it
was fun for them.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Okay, what about the fact that cal Rawly had his
dad pitching to him and his brother catching.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, I mean, I think that's really cool, Like that's all.
Never you never want to under understate family, like family
ties to doing something. I didn't say that it isn't
for the people who play the game amazing and an
amazing spectacle, you know, something super fun to experience, especially

(07:48):
something like that. But that still doesn't move the needle
for me. That wasn't I'm not sitting in here hearing
you say that, and it was like, dang, I missed that.
You know, just some baseball is kind of dead to you?
Is that? How is that how you can describe it?
It's never really been alive to me. There was like

(08:10):
one moment my son's a lefty. There was one moment
where in time where I was like, you're a lefty, bro,
like we gotta go do it, like let's go. And
I was that one parent that showed up to the games,
saw Lioner, saw his kid, you know, we're all there
at the same baseball games and stuff like that, And

(08:32):
well that was one and done for us. I made
it through that season. And when I say made it through,
literally the cheeseburgers. Now, I will say this, for some reason,
baseball concession stands where we're better, the product was better.
I don't know if that was just that one situation.

(08:54):
I have been to baseball games. I do go to
baseball games if there is a clubhouse. I like going
in the club level and in getting food. But this,
in particular Little League baseball, this concession stand was bad ass,
and that made it better. And then I had a neighbor.
His kid was in the same league, so I could

(09:15):
actually go up the stairs like it was in Manhattan Beach,
go up the stairs to where his house was, and
we would sell beers in South Bay. We we would
we would drink beers on his porch, on his steps
while we watched him play baseball down below in the
in the baseball field. That made it fun.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I think you missed out. I think you actually just
kept kept going.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
But you know he was bored. I was bored. So
parent hang.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Though, by the way back to the baseball concession stands.
Correct big league chewing fun dep if they didn't have
both those things there.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm sorry. It's not the best I could dig it.
I could dig it. Listen. I played t ball and
I use big lead. Honestly. I stuffed that thing in
there just like it was a big old, big old,
j enormous dip squeeze in there. Put it together. Yeah,
throw it on in there. Then I got kicked in
my eye playing first base dove football, playing first base,

(10:15):
I said, I'll take my chances with a helmet. I
walked off, walked off the diamond, never to go back again.
And maybe that might be the hang up in the
block I have against baseball.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Uh maybe I bought a pack of cards recently. We're
at some little uh up and carpenteria where a bubble
gum in it. Okay, so check this out. It was
a pack of nineteen eighty nine I think it was,
I think their tops cards, and they still had the
bubble gum inside of it.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, did you try it?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Try it?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I eveneers that ain't happening. It's literally hard as it's
like a Deshaun Watson towel, like hard, and.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
The way it was hard in the eighties too, when
oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And the fact that it hasn't dissolved by now. It's
like when they put a McDonald's hamburger. Uh, somebody found
a McDonald's hamburger like ten years later and uh in
a drawer in their house and.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
It was still still looked the same.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Like that's a problem. That that ought to tell you
that whatever is inside of those things not great. And
this still in full form. I mean, good for them
for putting it together, but yeah, not a great idea
nineteen as going this.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Wagner cards still a super valuable card, yeah, I think so. Mhmm, yeah. Interesting.
Do you have one? It's somethody you brought that up.
I have a few. I did. I did collect cards
growing up. I definitely do have a few. Pretty I
have a Dwight good In card, a rookie card I had.

(11:46):
You know, I'm a big I don't know if you
guys know this. I'm a big memorabilia guy. I have
a ton of valuable memorabilia in one. I got a
d White good I was a big.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Mets fan, okay, Jeryl Strawberry doctor, Yeah yeah, yep, yeah man,
they had some fun, right yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Seven million for the Wagoner card.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I do not have that card by the way, hold on, no,
I want to offload that one.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I do have a couple. Though I have a couple.
I got some stuff, man, like I got Kobe Bryant,
Gang warn shoes, Shaquille O'Neill game, Warren shoes, Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Did you smell them?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That was my question. I told you guys the story
about how I walked around in my house after I
got shack shoes with my shoes on inside of his shoe.
I was walking around my house with his shoes on.

(12:49):
I had my shoes on inside of his shoes. I'm
a grown ass man. How that make you feel insignificant?
But it was kind of wild. It's like, how does
this dude run up and down the court with these things?
Just it takes away, like it's hard to fathom reality

(13:10):
knowing that there are people walking around that big So anyway, Yeah,
but I did, I did. I got Zimmerman's Ryan is Ryan. Yeah,
I got I got both Zimmermans. I believe I have
a rookie autograph baseball from Strasbourg when he first came in.

(13:34):
That was a big one. I gotta I believe I
have a bat signed by Bryce when he came in
as real. Yeah, so you know, I mean, I'm I
went to a lot of Nationals games, and I guess
I did. There was a time, like what Rizzo was
the manager, There was a time I was into baseball.

(13:56):
There really was. We went to the games regularly. I
did a lot of cover over them because our station
was the official station of them, so we would do
a lot of live broadcasts. So I guess I did
like baseball. But last night just wasn't it for me.
I guess I just don't feel like All Star. I
don't feel like anything All Star moves me anymore. And
I don't know if it's because I'm old now and

(14:18):
being younger it hit differently, or it's just not as
good anymore. I don't know, but I just I don't
find myself entertained by All Star festivities, not football, basketball
or baseball.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I got to ask a question because you bring up
the autographs and all that, and I brought this up during.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
A break yesterday.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Aaron Rodgers getting pissed off at the autograph hounds that
were at the golf tournament in Tahoe this week. There
was some video of him getting because some guy claimed
was an autograph hound dude who cares? Like, why does it?
I don't understand people that won't cite autographs for somebody
that they know is going to take and sell it.

(15:00):
What does it matter?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, it's like there's a few things that are in play.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
The first is that, I mean, you don't want people
out there who are like trying to you know, take
your stuff and authenticate it and sell it because you
might have a deal with someone else, so you know,
you're you're going to sign for fans of kids and
everyone else. But if you have an exclusive deal with
different memorabilia companies and a lot of those guys do

(15:24):
they get in trouble for it.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
So that's part of it.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
And the other thing is is like there's just a
general thing where like if they say no, just let
it be a lot of those.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Guys who are autograph pounds. Is that what you're calling them?

Speaker 4 (15:37):
That's what he claimed he was an autographound, an.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Autograph found Okay, yeah, I'd just say a d bag.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
But a lot of those guys.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
They they're persistent and they'll do it to a point
where they become the a hole and you're like, okay,
like just leave, dude.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Like, I like, we get it. This is your job.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
So the best thing that I've learned and I literally
do to this day.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
And I learned this. I remember us with my family.
We were walking to dinner when we were in New
York for the Heisman, and this guy kept bothering us
and he literally walked for like I don't know how
many blocks, and finally I just turned. I said, let
me see what you've got, and I scribbled on it.
I didn't sign it, just scribbled and I just gave
it back to him. And then he was like, Okay,
thanks man. I'm like, not my signature, but sure take that.

(16:23):
So like that's the unfortunate part of it. And I
know coming from you, you're like, oh, what's just giving
an autogrip? But what's roll with that? Like the thing
is like that matters especially to players and stuff like
that's a that's a big deal with You're giving out
stuff like that to people, and there's often times who
abuse it and they honestly act like an a hole
about it.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, hey, if anybody sign anything for LeVar, he still
got it in case anybody.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I just love how it really was about concession stands
for for I mean that's that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I can't even really say I recall watching man play
honestly that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, oh, I will say this, and going back on
a tangent of like it get too gimmicky, which I
didn't feel like last night's was like that.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I just when you.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Bring up how like, oh, I'm not gonna watch You
know why is because we go back to a time
with like Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa, and we go
back to like the best war hitting in it, the
best war're playing in it.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
You don't get that anymore.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean, cal Rawley right now is the best at
least based on his accumulation during the course of the
regular season, and who knows what he'll end up doing.
I mean that was phenomenal last night, Like if his
dad put a ball on the inside of the plate,
it was gone. He was raking that thing to write
and it was gone, like every single time. But you know,
that was, you know, again, contrasted with like a jazz

(17:43):
Chisholm with three home runs. I mean it was at
one point I was sitting there thinking he just needs
to call time out and not come back, like just
just be like I'm good. You guys go ahead. You
guys go ahead with the rest of this. And it's
not a knock on him as a player. It's just
he's not really a home run hitter. Like he's a
guy you want to get him on base. You want
to then, you know, find a way to get to

(18:04):
home plate. Like it's just it feels like you don't
have the best the best. I think that plays a
little bit of a factor into it. And also it's
it's such a simple concept, like you throw the ball,
you hit the ball over the fence. We don't need
to add too much more into it, give a certain
amount of pitch to a certain amount of time, but
like it should be as simple as that. I mean,
there's times when baseball I feel like they make good

(18:24):
adjustments and changes, and there's times like over the fourth
of July, I'm watching the Savannah Bananas, which I've heard
it's great to go to. I've heard it's awesome for kids,
awesome for families. It feels like a circus watching that
on TV and almost like they're like making fun of baseball.
Something compared it to the Harlem Globetrotters. I was like, Yeah,
the difference is those guys were skilled. Like the stuff

(18:48):
they did in the Globetrotters is like hard to do.
You only get that like twice a ball game. Watch
the Savannah Bananas where they do something we're like, oh,
that was.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Kind of neater.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
That was a trick play, trick shot. Like the rest
of it's really bad baseball.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
And they're selling out stadiums all over the place.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I think they'll they'll remind you that they're selling out.
They be dancing and stuff like that, Like yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
That's the thing is again in person because like maybe
the crowd's doing it too. Everyone's doing it. When you're
watching on TV, then you're like, why is this dude
in a baseball uniforms dancing all the time.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I think they had Lee Can you check this number.
I think they had like seventy thousand at Raymond James.
Like they sold out Raymond James Stadium in Tampa with
just the Savannah Banana Show. Whatever the spectacle is, I
don't get it. I have know people that have gone
that have said it's awesome. I don't I don't understand
the appeal. Sixty sixty five thousand people showing up to

(19:43):
see the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
What the f interesting?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Like, maybe the WNBA should hire him, Like, you know,
maybe maybe that would increase some of the interest for
the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
They could push that Jesse Cole. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
I mean, look, he's a marketer. Like they've done a
tremendous job. They incorporate charity, they operate a lot of
kids throughout the course of it. I just I don't
feel like it's made for TV product.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm good, good by. I mean, at least you guys
enjoyed the home run derby. At least it you know,
it was good to you guys. I'm glad. I'm glad
you guys got a good, you know, good little bit
of time. Did you guys watch it with the kids? Like,
how did the kids feel about it? You know, was

(20:25):
Drew sitting there, It was he like, Papa, me do
that one day?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Serial What do you mean me do that one day?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
You make them talk like that?

Speaker 4 (20:35):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Does he oo? Papa?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Papa?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
What do you mean? Why can't he talk? Why can't
he talk? I don't know, I don't know. I just
listened to the I just listen to the way Jonah
says he talked.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Is your kid and capable of speaking English.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Speaks you know whatever whatever we call that rote. Yeah,
he's got a little of that going on. He just
he he mixes in Spanish words here or there, like
there's certain words that he like. He doesn't say more.
He says, moss a little Spanglish baby. Yeah, he just
you know, he's got he just got little picks and chooses,

(21:20):
and so I never.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Know when something something tells me, you like that, like
you we wanted to speak Spanlish. You don't want him
to actually speak like just English and Spanish.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yeah, to speak Spanish, because my Spanish is terrible. It's
never getting any better. And he's got to be able
to carry on that side of the family's tradition because
I'm not doing it. So you know, if he can,
if he can figure out some words, and you know,
go ahead, have fun.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Man, Just you know you like me quietly? Do you
quietly on the inside, be like we won what do
you mean?

Speaker 6 (21:54):
It's a valid question, Jonas, answer the question when you
got you know, when you're out as in like you know,
he comes in between the middle of you two and
you guys have like those clashings of the cultures, you know,
what y'all got going on.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I mean, there's not too too many things where you
could sit there and say there was a fight, you know,
there was a war, and well your side one. I mean,
do you do you sit there and you look like, yeah,
you know, hey son English. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
The fact that it's probably eighty percent English, big win,
big win, that is, And that's a reminder daily.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
That's the reminder. I'm just curious as to how that works,
you know what I mean, Like, that's got to be
your trunk card anytime there's a disagreement, right, Like you
have to come out on top every time.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
My wife when she tried, when she reprimands him, she
does it in Spanish, like she goes back to her roots,
the way her mom would reprimand her, and she it's
full Spanish. I have no she could be ordering food.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
He knows exactly what she's saying, and he argues with
her back in English, so he knows what she's saying,
and he argues like I just walk away.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I can't. Feels like the American Mexican War? Does Lee understand?
Does Lee understand English? Because I feel like the the
you know, the zoom directions came in English Spanish. Just
was curious, is if he.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Zoom link. Yeah it's there.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, it's much like you though there's a failure to
launch what happened.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
I don't know zoom link today. It's working for some people,
not for others. It didn't work for her mind, it
worked for others.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, by the way, can we get at some point.
I don't know if we want to do it next,
but we've got to get into uh Lee, who's literally
got East taking care of something that'll be dead in
four or five days that we've determined last night, like
something that's going to be a corpse in four or
five So it's like, oh good, so based on the

(24:12):
evidence we got last night.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
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Speaker 4 (24:28):
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Speaker 4 (24:58):
By the way, the good news is the debate about
the college football playoff format is still raging on. So
that's the good news. SEC media Days are going on,
so everybody's there. Every blowhard who's a blowhard from the
Southeastern Conference is all there ready to discuss the college

(25:19):
football playoff potential expansion. You got Greg Sank the SEC
commissioners talking about, you know, how many conference games are playing,
and so he took time yesterday to discuss the differences
in opinions on what the college football playoff format will
look like between them and the Big Ten and also

(25:41):
just this whole playing eight conference games as opposed to
everybody else. Let's take a listen to the SEC commission.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
We had a different view coming out of Dustin around
the notion of allocations if you will, and I think
you'll probably hear that again from our coaches, a different view.

Speaker 10 (26:00):
That's fine.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
We have a twelve team playoff five conference champions that
could stay if we can't agree. I think there's this
notion that there has to be some magic moment and
something has to happen.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
With expansion, and it has to be for It.

Speaker 9 (26:15):
Is absolutely, fully, one hundred percent correct that in the
SEC we play eight conference games while some others play
nine conference games.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Never been a secret.

Speaker 9 (26:27):
It's also correct that last season all sixteen members of
the Southeastern Conference played at least nine games against.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
What you would label power opponents.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
We had several that played ten of their twelve games
against power opponents.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Some conferences have that, some don't. I don't believe.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
There's anyone looking to swap their conference schedule and its
opponents with the opponents played by Southeastern Conference teams in
our conference schedule, be it eight or nine.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh my god, I love emotional sensitive out here.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Love college.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
He's he's stating what I think some people might agree with.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think if you're comparing the SEC to the ACC
and the Big.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Twelve, and no disrespect to those conferences, but I think
most would agree.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think the tough thing for me.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
With buying into this notion that Greg Sankee's making is
the Big ten whooped y'all last year. I mean, you're
the team that was carrying the flag for you last
year was really Texas. That was their first year in
the conference. So if you want to go that route,
you can go that route, and you can make those

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comments in regards about your eight conference games versus other
conferences having to play nine.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
But there's a lot of parenting these other conferences too.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
I mean, ask for as someone like Riley who left Oklahoma,
some would say because who didn't want to have to
play in the SEC because he thought it'd be a
a harder route to go. Maybe left to go to
a team that's plays in the Pac twelve that's no
longer there, and now is you know, complaining about their
Big ten schedule and those nine conference teams that having

(28:18):
to play an additional tough nine conference like Notre Dame.
So there's going to be coaches that could make that
same claim about the Big ten schedule.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
The smart thing that the SEC has done.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Is, you know, they've been able to kind of plant
this flag and basically state like, look, we feel like
our conference is the best based on how the regular
season went last year. I think going into the playoff,
you would have thought that like they were the strongest conference.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
It felt like at least at the top.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Unfortunately didn't work out from once again in the playoff,
Tennessee blown away by Ohiose State. I was at that game.
Wasn't even close. Wasn't even close Georgia. I mean, look,
it was unfortunate that you know, Carson Beck was hurt.
You had to go in with a freshman backup to
play that game versus Notre Dame. But that game wasn't
even didn't even seem as close at times as a

(29:09):
score predicted. So we can we can go through each
one of the games the playoffs when all those teams
got the score offers one another. I mean Texas almost
lost Arizona State. Yes that was a double overtime game,
but that game could have gone a lot different too.
So they were holding on for dear life when it
came down to it, just to be a part of

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the four teams that were in the semi final. So
I look at it and say, like, I understand this
is the point he wants to make. I would push
back a bit too about some of the top teams
in the Big Ten, and they do play nine conference
games and the other thing i'd say about those twelve
you know, three other you know games are going to
play on their schedule. As he's talking about, Well, we
play eight plus you know one power whatever opponent. Yet

(29:52):
you also play layups in November two. You also play
double direction like Northwest, Best, Southeastern whatever school as well.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Look, I mean, I'm I'm not going to destroy as
a program, but I'm saying there are some there are
far worse teams they play. They'll play FCS teams. Yeah,
so I sit here and look at it and go
hold on for a second. This is a diversion tactic.
You're trying to get everyone to look at how tough
your conference is. For eight games. It's so tough, we
don't need to play none. It's so tough. Well, yeah,

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you don't really play anyone anyway after the conference games.
So that's that's that's part of their argument is just
trying to say, hey, don't look over here, don't look
at how weak some of the non conference schedules are.
Or and by the way, when we play those non
conference games, don't look at that, or don't look at
the fact that if you go back to the fourteen
playoff how hard it was for teams that actually had

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to play those nine conference games and how that impacted
their ability then to get into the four team playoff.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Go back and look at those stats.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Well, that was one of the easiest pass for the
SEC because then I played eight conference games, so it
was one less game they really had to worry about
within conference.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Big ten had to deal with that.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
A lot of other conferences had to deal with that,
not the SEC. And the last thing I'll say is
there's a thought, and I hope they expand to sixteen,
and I hope they do the model of five conference champions.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
And eleven at large bids.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
The reason why the SEC is pushing it is because
they believe they will get more than what they would
be allocated. And you use that word before if they
were going to have automatic qualifiers, because if they have
automatic qualifiers, they'll each get four and the Big twelve
in the ACC they get a couple each two automatically, right,
so they're in, and then you get your group of five,

(31:40):
then you get your at large bids. And the SEC
feels like they will have a better chance of getting
more teams into the playoff with a five conference champion
model and eleven at large bids as opposed to going
the automatic qualifier route where you have five at large
bids when it's all said and done, if you expanded
to sixteen. So I look at that and say, let's

(32:01):
find out, then let's expand and let's really see what
it looks like, because I think they're going to be
surprised in the end with the way this all pans out.
But pushing for the sixteen sixteen team expansion with five
conference champions and eleven at large bids, it allows them,
by playing only eight conference games to get some of
those teams in there. I just think it's rich coming

(32:23):
off this past year where you got three loss teams
that were trying to, you know, basically, say hey, we
should be in, we should be a part of the conversation,
and you really didn't hear too many other conferences saying
that unless their team was a conference champ, which makes
it a little different.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I feel like there should be a cap on the
Power five conferences the amount of teams. That's what I feel,
right Like, I think about like high school, like how
the playoffs work. There were teams that could have had
really really good seasons and they missed the playoffs, just
based upon how it would structured to get into the

(33:01):
playoffs out of your you know, if it was Quad
A North, if it was Quad A South, what so
on and so forth, Like the winner of the conference
went to the playoffs. Like if you have one or
two teams like Okay, the team that wins the conference,

(33:23):
they get in. Great. I think that's how it should be.
They should be automatically in if they win their conference.
But I say cap it off at like one other
team like Okay, the runner up gets to go in.
They qualify to get into the playoffs. I feel like

(33:43):
it makes the regular season more competitive and and it
makes it fair for the conferences that aren't going to
have the opportunities based off of who they may play
to get Inami should have been in. There are a
couple teams that should have been in the playoffs last year.

(34:05):
But if this is all about how many teams we
can get out of the Big ten or the SEC
into the playoffs, I feel like there's something to me
in that structure based alone, There's something that's wrong with that,
because even as good as those conferences are, why would I,

(34:28):
as a player go to a conference and play for
a team in the SEC or the Big Ten. The
reason is is because I want to have the opportunity
to play for national championship. You know, outside obviously the
educational component of it. You want to go to a
school in most cases where you have the opportunity to

(34:52):
compete for championship. Every team pretty much pretty much, not
every team, but pretty much the teams that are usual,
the teams that are going to make it far are
the teams that generally make it far. So to me,
if we're talking about making your money, make your money
during your season, make the money during your season, and

(35:14):
understand that whoever makes it to the Big Ten championship,
those are the teams that are going to represent your
conference in the playoffs. SEC ACC, those are the teams
that are going to represent your team in the conference.
And then leave the rest of those games outside of
the traditional Power five conferences. Leave the rest of those

(35:39):
teams for the institutions that actually have a fair opportunity
of competing in the playoff. I do not want to
see all like four or five six teams out of
a conference go to the playoff and compete. That's just
like me watching the Big ten. It's just like me

(36:01):
watching the SEC during the season.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, but if they're the best teams in the country.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
White doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The playoffs are the playoffs.
It's the playoffs. If you're in that conference and you're
you're one of the best teams, then you have to
show you're one of the best teams and qualify to
compete for the conference title, then go to the playoffs.

(36:26):
Just to me, that's how I feel like it would
make sense for the simple fact that if you're not,
if you're just gonna take a whole bunch of teams
from the major the major conferences, then why have the
other conferences out there? Oh, your your conference isn't good enough,
We're always going to take two or three more teams
from these two conferences. To me, okay, if that's what

(36:49):
you're gonna do, then just hav an SEC versus the
Big Ten, you know, situation I'm in. Okay, Well that.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I think it feels like we're slowly kind of moving
towards that a little bit with how this has been
discussed and the Big Ten and the SEC being the
two biggest movers in all this. But again, just so
people understand the contrast between what both conferences are pushing for.
The SEC saying the five just similar to last year,
with a twelve team playoff, the five highest rank conference

(37:20):
champs get automatic bids into the playoff and obviously preferential seating,
and then they'll be eleven at large bids based on
how the College twelve Playoff Committee ranks those teams. The
other is a sixteen team expanded playoff where you have
four from the Big Ten and those would be seeded
ranked obviously based on their finish. So the Big Ten

(37:41):
champion runner up, et cetera, the SEC would get there,
four SEC champ runner up, et cetera, and then you'd
have the Big twelve ACC and you'd have probably those
two teams that played for their conference championship ultimately make
it in. At least that's my assumption. But what I
go back to is if you look at that format,

(38:03):
that takes you to what twelve teams, so you get
you're gonna get one of the spot for the highest
ranked group of five champ okay, and then you've got
a couple at large bids when it's all said and
done left over. So the hard thing about that is
it doesn't feel like there's quite as much room to
allow some of those teams that you mentioned Miami that

(38:23):
you know were maybe that bubble team that could have
should have gotten in. Someone mentioned me the other day
about BYU last year. With that, you know, they're nine
and oh one point the season. You know, they were
a team that you probably could have made a case
for too, based on their strength of schedule.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So I understand where you're coming from with all this.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
I think what's that play here and what's being discussed
is about money, and no one ever wants to say
it or reveal it, but that's what it's about. You know,
each one of these teams that enters into the playoff
is a certain amount of money that that conference gets,
And so the Big Ten's view, probably if they're pushing
an agenda for you know, four amount of qualifiers and
to it at least gives each conference, hey, this is

(39:02):
the minimum of what you're going to make from this. Now,
depending on how the teams perform, depending on if you
get any other at large bid, you know that could
could play a role too, But we at least know
every single year structurally how much money you can minimum
at a minimum you know, plan on whereas the five
conference champs eleven at largeest like that could fluctuate mightily,

(39:25):
and that's probably why there's some concern from maybe the
ACC or the Big twelve where they only get one
team in they might get you know, locked out altogether,
or maybe even from the Big Ten and saying just like, hey,
we don't want a year where there's this perception that
the SEC is better, even though the reality is when
you start actually playing, that's not the truth. But that's

(39:46):
not the reality of how strong each conference is. So look,
I'm not smart enough to have the right answer for it.
I just personally like seeing you know, there'd be the
conference champions rewarded. If those games are still meaningful, then
make them meaningful, make them mean something where they get
automatically into the playoff with preferential seating, and then have

(40:09):
your you know, eleven at large bits. I think that's
the fairest way to playoff for it and we see
who's the best of the best. I just I do
hope that somehow the College Football Playoff Committee can eliminate
the bias they've had towards the SEC, because we saw
how that played out last year in the playoff, and
the SEC got absolutely drummed in a lot of those circumstances,

(40:30):
and they were not as strong as what everyone portrayed
them to be. It's like, all right, this, these are
the teams you threw in there, and yet you're still
lobbying for old mess and lobbying for Alabama teams that lost,
you know, have them the three games last year. It's like, really,
forget that's that's what you want to see.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
South Carolina too was found on the table. I just
somebody come up with a conclusion, somebody come up with
an answer, and then let's just go from there. But
it just back and forth between commissioners defending their conference
and they should they should defend.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
But you know they should defend it. I mean, but
why not? Why not if it's all about the guarantee
of the amount of money, why not have it play
out where both both conferences have a showdown. You know, like, okay,
you have your qualifiers, you know, your elite teams in

(41:27):
the Big Ten, and you have your elite teams and
the SEC and and have them battle it out to
get into the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
The playoff, so they the Big Ten has actually thrown
that out there that there would be a seeding too,
so the Big Ten championshi would look a little different
like they would obviously the top two teams would play
off for the championship, but then you maybe even have
you know, three through six would play and the winners
of those games would play for the final two spots. Now,

(41:56):
the only thing I'll say about that format is, well,
then out I had a play for the conference championship,
which is kind of meaningless. I guess maybe it's not
to some, but it feels a little bit right because
because the losers automatically in. So that's the only problem
with that format where I'm like, yeah, it sounds fun
and enticing, but there's also not as much in the line.
Because ultimately, you'd rather have a national championship over a

(42:18):
conference championship, would you not? Yeah, but look at it
this way.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
We had a national champion that wasn't even a conference champion, correct, and.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I could go high State would rather have a national champion?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think they would.

Speaker 10 (42:34):
They.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I think they would too. I think they'd rather be
at Michigan at this point. I think they will. I
think I would rather have a national title. We've had
this debate before, but I would rather have a national title.
So at the end of the day, how much if
I can say, all right, we won the Big Ten,
like you think Oregon is happy with we won the
Big Ten, but yet couldn't win against the team that

(42:57):
they won the Big Ten against in the playoffs. To me,
I feel like, whatever it is that you're gonna do,
they're still with all the amount of schools that exists
around the country. If you're trying to make it in
the in the essence of true competition, I would be

(43:21):
working to try to get as many teams into the
tournament that are teams that you would be like a BYU.
I know people are like, well, when you had Penn
State versus Boise State, that's not or Boise that's not
as as you know entertaining, that's not gonna move. I'm

(43:43):
talking pure competition. I want to see the best teams
out there competing in the playoff. Like if you had
a good year and you're not in the playoff because
your conference isn't as strong as the SEC or the
Big Ten, to me, that's a miss. That's a miss

(44:04):
in the true essence of what competition is supposed to
be and parody and going to a school and doing
all of the same workouts that these Big ten and
SEC schools are doing in the summer, all of these
practices that they're doing during the course of the year,
and yet they don't have the same opportunity if you're
getting recruited, why would you go to a school where

(44:29):
you stand the chance of doing everything as close to
perfect as you possibly can and still don't get an
opportunity to compete in the tournament. I think it really
really handicaps these other schools having the opportunity outside of
being able to financially compete in terms of what you're

(44:54):
going to give a five star or four star or
transfer portal guy. Outside of the money that you can for,
what is your incentive to go to a school that
isn't in the Big ten at the top for one
or in the SEC. I just think that that's to me.
I think the people that really kind of suffer here

(45:14):
are those athletes that want to go to a school
that may not be the traditional Alabama or or you know,
Tennessee or whatever it may be, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan.
If you want to go to Rutgers, go to Rutgers.
If you want to go to Miami, go to Miami.
I just don't feel like, you know, I just don't

(45:35):
feel like all these teams are being considered. There's only
a couple conferences that are being considered, and I feel
like that's hard. That's a hard one for me.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah, well it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Nothing's harder than whoa
and what we got going on? Whoa? Oh buddy, I
don't know where you By the way, why does league
get so defensive? Where is Lee Loreda?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Where is he?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I don't know?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Did he just walk?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
This is why Lee went to the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
This is why Lee doesn't want to be on camera,
is because then he would have to be held accountable.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Meanwhile, I was waiting in the zoom room and he's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
When was this?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I found him. I even believe he couldn't wait for
the break to take a dumpling.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
I was adding some other stuff for later in the show.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Oh man, he.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Be acting like he'd be working.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Hard, working, hardly.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Boy. That that is funny. Look he do look stretched
out right now.

Speaker 7 (46:49):
I'm actually pretty okay right now, But if you guys want,
the zoom meeting has been sent back out whenever you
guys want to join, Ready for you.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Thanks Lee, You're very welcome.

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Speaker 4 (47:12):
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He is the one, He is the only. He is
our smooth operator. Pete Prisco, Pete, what's happening morning?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, Pete.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
It's a big day. Brady's back from his four weeks
four I mean four months sabbatical. How was it four months, Brad?

Speaker 5 (47:37):
About four months? Yeah, yeah, about four months. I wish
I could bring you along with me, but that wasn't
the case. You know, you'd be crying like our six
month old baby as well.

Speaker 10 (47:47):
You must have played a lot of golf in those days, Brady.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Actually, I'm trying to get our son to sleep through
the night. So that's still been a challenge. But no,
it's been good. It's been good, Pete.

Speaker 10 (47:57):
So it was the army now seven uh.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Total in our family, our media family is seven. Yes,
it's it's very hard to get a dinner reservation nowadays.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
It's amazing what a machine you are. I'm so proud
of you.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I really am.

Speaker 10 (48:13):
I'm so proud of you as somebody who doesn't have children.
I just I'm so proud of you. The fact that
you just keep going and going and going and going.
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
A lot of coming and going.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Pete, Hey, I do all I do think about you
often though. I think about you every time I'm traveling,
and I get that look from like an older couple
where they're looking at us, just.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Like what is wrong with them?

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Like, why in God's name would you keep doing this
to yourselves while our kids are just throwing stuff, you know, crying, fighting,
you know, someone slapping each other. It's a whole it's
a whole situation. I always think to myself, what would
Pete Prisco say?

Speaker 10 (48:51):
You know what I always say? You don't always say
to myself, bring Grandma to the kids. Don't bring the
kids to grandma. He's lots to the problem.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
To my Italian in laws in Boston. Okay, see how
that goes?

Speaker 3 (49:08):
All right?

Speaker 10 (49:09):
I mean, look, I I know when people travel with
kids it's tough to do, but it's more irritating when
it's when they're not yours. And and I know everybody
says that, but that's true. I remember I worked with
a guy and he was an only child growing up,
and every time he get on a plane and they
were like kids going off, it would just so frustrate

(49:30):
him to the point where it was like, look as
his head was going to explode. And then he had
kids and didn't bother them at all.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Right, it was that you was that you? That was
the kid.

Speaker 10 (49:40):
No, it still bothers me. I don't have any kids.
It bothers me. I look, but but I understand it.
I get it, I understand it. But still the ultimate
solution is bring granny to the kids. Don't bring the
kids to granny. It's really easy. I mean, think about that.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
That's another T shirt. I think about it all the time.
It's easier so than done when you've got mother in
law who's it. Talier lives on the East Coast.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Hey, Pete I got a question for you. The decision
by the New York Jets to get the deal done
for Garrett Wilson now and this early wise one, or
would you waited a little bit to see how things
play out with Justin Fields.

Speaker 10 (50:20):
No, I would have done it, And it has nothing
to do with Justin Fields. It just has to do
with the fact that the kids are really special receiver A.
But be the sooner you lock these guys up the
keeper it's going to be for you. You know, we
see those situations where the money. You know, if you're
one of the elite players in the league, the money
just keeps going up and up and up, and so
if you can get ahead of it a little bit,

(50:42):
it saves you a little bit of money. And look,
you can go back to the Cowboys right now with
Michael Parsons. I mean, you know that money keeps going
up in large part because they waited, and when you wait,
it comes back and ultimately gonna end up paying more.
So I get it, I understand it, and I don't
think it really has any to do with Justin Fields.
I think Justin Field is in there this year if
he plays well and shows that he can be the

(51:03):
long term answer, then Okay, if he doesn't, then they're
going to go into that draft next year, which is
loaded with quarterbacks. And then we've seen that already start
to play out with guys. You know, let's the Big
twelve Media Days was last week. Yes, there's quarterbacks all
over the place. You go back in and you find
yourself a quarterback. So I don't think it has anything
to do with Justin Fields.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
What gives you the confidence that if Aaron Rodgers couldn't
make it work with this offense, that Justin Fields can
come in and do so what would be the wait
and see approach? Is it the coaching change altogether, or
is it like, what would your estimation be that it
could be any different under Justin Fields versus Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 (51:45):
Well, well there's different players. I mean, you can do
some things with Justin Fields that you can't do with
Aaron Rodgers. And the Aaron Rodgers we saw for the
first eight nine games last year wasn't Aaron Rodgers either.
I mean he was impacted by the injury, he couldn't
move around like he used to. But as the season
more on, Aaron Rodgers played better football. You go down
to the second half of the season, he played much

(52:05):
better football and the offense actually did show signs of life.
So I think you have to do things differently, and
you have to get some special packages for justin fields
he could move around. I'm not saying he's going to
go in there and but they have to find out
if he can and if he can't, then what the
Jets are going to do is go back in next
year and find themselves a quarterback because it's a loaded
quarterback draft next year and there's going to be a

(52:27):
lot of good ones in the draft. So find out
if he can do it. If he can't, then you're
going to be drafted high or you know, not high,
but you can be drafted relatively high next year and
you find yourself a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Pe don't want to switch gears a little bit. We
were just talking about the subject of Nick Saving potentially
coming back and coaching, and I know he's on the
college ranks, but he did spend a short amount of
sign with the Dolphins. You're obviously very in tune with
all of that tenure how that went. I tend to
think if he does come back and coach, it probably
would be at the NFL level since the college level.
He was frustrated by with where they're at anyway, and

(53:00):
I kind of know your stance on all this, but
I feel like Saban could be different. And LeVar pointed out,
like they weren't that bad when he was with the Dolphins,
and if Drew Brees is the quarterback and not Culpepper,
I mean, maybe it turns out different.

Speaker 10 (53:12):
Yeah, if they had had Drew Brees, it would have
been definitely different. But again, I think Nick Saban is
a great coach and I think he could be a
great coach in the NFL. If you're a great coach
in college, you'd be a great coach in the NFL.
Doesn't always translate that way. My thing is is I
think he's evolved to the point where, yeah, he'd be
disciplined still, but I don't think he'd be the same
type of disciplinarian because you can't be the rules have changed,

(53:35):
you know, there's so much limited you can't put the
pads on as much, and so he'd have to change
it as that. But he could do it. He's a
brilliant guy. He's a great coach. If he wanted to
come back, he'd be at the top of any list,
and I think he'd be a great tire in the NFL.
But again, you know that came out. I guess what
McElroy started that or something put that out there that
he's hearing some stuff. And then you hear from other

(53:56):
you know, the guy saying the same stuff. They know
he's content where he is in life, and you know,
you guys know this. I mean, what does his wife want?
Is his wife want him out of the house? Or
does his wife want him around? I mean, because that's
ultimately what the decision he comes down to, right, I
mean that you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Want and and and the decision is his as well.
It has to be both of them, right, like does
she want him there? And does he want to be there?
That's and it's a great point. That's your best point
that you've made on all these calls that you've ever
gotten on with us.

Speaker 10 (54:28):
A million great points. And usually they're on the opposite
side of every whatever some of that of your mouth before.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
So that's teligence.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
I mean, I mean, if lvar said something up, usually
on the opposite side of it.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
A true, yeah, that's very true. I do not want
to be on the same side as your opinion, you know, mean.

Speaker 10 (54:49):
You're entitled to your wrong opinions than thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
H Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
You get him on ex at Prisco CBS. By the way, Pete,
I noticed something that you tweeted out a few days
ago talking about the Browns being another team that's not
going to let the elements impact them when it comes
to building a stadium and designing a stadium. The exact
tweet was the following, good to see another city getting

(55:16):
rid of the elements impacting football and making it more
comfortable for the fans. So you just want domes or
sunshine throughout the entire league. That's it.

Speaker 10 (55:26):
Thank you exactly. That's exactly the way I want to
play it. You know, why do I want to see
miserable elements change a game and make it into something
that's a survival that's not football. It becomes that's not football,
It becomes a survival test that is football.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Sir, this is such a bad take on yours. Here's
the thing.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
Why does everybody always say, here's the other flip side
of that is everybody always goes on your soft.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Pete.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Look at your history.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
You live you lived in Florida your entire life. You
went to school with Arizona State, or is warm to
All you've done is lived in warm weather places because
you're soft.

Speaker 10 (56:05):
Let me ask you this, would you rather as football players?
You both play in the league. Would you rather play
a game in ninety five degree temperatures with one hundred
percent humidity or with thirty five or thirty and wind
chill of fifteen?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Thirty wins fifteen the other things?

Speaker 10 (56:23):
How am I thought? How am I soft?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Then?

Speaker 10 (56:28):
What it's not? I live in the heat and humidity?
How am I thought?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
For you? At Pete, Pete?

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Here's the difference streeen, you and me. You asked me
for my preference, and I said, I'd rather play in
the cold. Here's the different stream, you and me. I'd
do both. I'd play in either. You're over there saying,
oh nope, too cool, gonna sit inside, not gonna. I'm
not gonna do this one. I'm not gonna not gonna
be a part of this one.

Speaker 10 (56:48):
I mean, look, if I had to, if I was
being paid by the team to play, I play in
anything you put me anywhere I go play. But I
prefer to play in the heat. I like the heat,
and I think here's the other part of the element.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
We know.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
You're the bubble boy at you like Pete, You're the
bubble boy. You just want to be locked up in
a bubble story.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
That's what you are. You're what I'm on a Seinfeld episode.
You're a your bubble boy. You just want to be
locked up in a safe environment where it's you know,
it's oh, it can't get too cold.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Or the wind.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah, your bubble boy.

Speaker 10 (57:20):
At least when you're playing in the heat, you can
throw a pass. And when you play in the wind
that's blowing thirty five miles an hour and it's twelve
degrees out, you can't be yes football.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
You can you can throw that thing. You gotta be
able to spin it, though, Man, you gotta get used
to gotta.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Be able spin.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
It's a survival test. It's miserable. It's miserable for the fans. Hey,
let me spend Let me spend one thousand dollars today
to go sit in twelve degree weather, bundle up and
have wind chill factor making my face feel like it's
a brick. Yeah, that sounds like you know.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
What, you know, what's sad?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
About.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
This is your childhood hero, Danny Marino. He never had
a problem throwing the ball at pitt did he? And
I'll say this much Aaron Rodgers, who you also love,
He never had an issue throwing it in Green Bay?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Did he? And that cold that up there. Take that?

Speaker 10 (58:01):
Talking about two of the greatest, two of the greatest.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Who ever, Yeah, exactly, that's what I'm talking about. Take that.

Speaker 10 (58:08):
You. Let me tell you this.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
If Dan Marine, that bubble boy, if.

Speaker 10 (58:11):
He had ended up in Pittsburgh playing quarterback for the
Steelers rather than playing in the conditions in South Florida
and Miami, he would have been highly quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Oh yeah, he had Super Bowls, he had studs.

Speaker 10 (58:22):
He would have been different. He would have been different.
Go look at it. By the way, they weren't. They
weren't as great as you think they were.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Well that there's some other stuff going on, by the way, Hey,
Bill Belichick would be the first to tell you to
you know, quarterbacks, offenses love throwing in bad weather because
the defensive players always reactive. LaVar will tell you, like,
it's harder footing, it's harder from the planets sticks.

Speaker 10 (58:49):
So like the opportunities that Brady I agree with you
one hundred percent. If there's a little bit of snow
on the ground and the traction isn't great, that favors
the offense. If it's a lot of snow and it's
windy and miserable, that favors the defense and it's miserable.
And so that's the difference. Why not playing five?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Were you necessarily true? Pete? That is not necessarily true.
It actually favors the offense if the if there's snow
on the ground, because those offensive linemen, the offensive lineman
clearly has an.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Advantage favor anybody because it would you rather watch Let
me ask you this, would you rather watch the Lions
play where they play and be able to play football
that way? Or would you rather watch? Uh? Okay, I'll
give you a better example. Let's go back to the
Minnesota Vikings. And you guys are too young. You don't
remember they used to play outside in Bloomington. It was miserable.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
First was that.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I take that as a sign of disrespect, because you'll
you'll forget this, I won't. I called a Minnesota Vikings
game while they're playing at the University of Minnesota while
building their new stadium, So I was out in the
Elements called a week seventeen game back then, and I
had no problem being up in the booth and being
those frigid conditions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Take that played, No, you don't. It's open in Indiana, Pete,
stop that. Take that and Cleveland.

Speaker 10 (01:00:17):
But but I'd rather have played Rady. Would you rather
have done that game in a nice, warm, comfortable stadium
or in that freezing called booth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I like the point, But that is the point. That
is the point. Pe is the point.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Can we switch subject real quick? Because I've got I've
got some tickets for you. There might be wolf tickets,
but I've got some tickets for you to go to Mars.
And you're living a biodome there. How do you feel
about that?

Speaker 10 (01:00:44):
Go to Mars? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:00:46):
I don't get on I don't get on rockets, I
don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Inside, you know, like the Elements.

Speaker 10 (01:00:50):
I don't get off planes. I don't ride roller coasters.
I don't do any I don't look if I can
avoid it all, you're not helping yourself here. No, No,
I I admit it, I admit it. But here's my
theory on the roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Okay, here's tall enough to sit in the seats.

Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
By the way when I was You know what, le Bart,
You're not wrong about that, because when I was a kid,
we used to go to the amusement park. We were
like in fourth grade and stuff, and every kid would
be able to go on the ride and they wouldn't
let me be on because I wasn't that up. You
know what. That set this, You know what that did.
That set the stage for the rest of my life
never wanting to go in those damn things because I
did go on a couple of once and I hated them.

(01:01:34):
And then when I got older, my theory was, what
if Bobby the bolt tightener that night, went out the
night before and got loubed up and came into work
hung over, and he didn't tighten one of the bolts,
fight enough in the morning and you go flying off.

(01:01:54):
I mean, why would you, Why would you subject yourself
to that? So the thrill of going up and down
in a rock it doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Yeah, And I think some of the guys that run
the carnival rides at local carnivals are like on work
for low I think they're like it's like part of
their work release. So It's not like they don't have
a checkered pasted as well too, so maybe they do
come in a little loubed up, as you say, Pete,
and people.

Speaker 10 (01:02:18):
I would first, okay, if you go to amusement park,
you like, I wouldn't go on a carnival ride if
you if you paid me, there's no way. I mean
I I did it as a kid. I went on
this ride called the Zipper when I was a kid.
And I don't know if you guys ever remember that ride.
You got on it. They strapped you in and the
thing flipped and and and the thing flipped. It was horrendous,

(01:02:39):
and I go, I never go and I look down
and you know what was holding my cage together like
a little pin that they stick inside the saying what
are you getting me? What am I doing? So I
grew up, got out of that and don't go on anything. Ever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I don't disagree with you on that one, Pete. I'm
not a thrill seeker anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:02:57):
This is a big moment, LeVar. We've had a lot
of a lot of agreement today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I mean change, I changed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
You know what I'm going to knots landing. I'm going
to Knox landing today. I changed my mind just just
because we're agreeing. That's that's all.

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
It's. It's like you're playing linebacker in the guard and
I've worn you down by just blasting your midsections for
like you're done.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I see that. I can see that all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
You'd be looking for a handful of something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Whoa, whoa, Pete, whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
We heard your dirty stories that past. We've heard it
of the past.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I'm not getting in the palle up with you, Pete.
Although you would be in competition with me in a
pile up though, and guarantee you, you might be the
one screaming, not me.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
Sir, if you were an eye gouger.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I wasn't an eye gouger. But I said what he
does in the pile though, I will, I will turn
your ankle. I'll pinch leg fat, I'll pinch the other
stuff too, like I'll I'll grad now. No, no, no, no,
I'm not trying to hurt you, but I'm trying to
put you in paining.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
You're not You're not trying to break his leg. You're
just trying to make it hurt down there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
That's correct, that's correct, exactly, Like there's a difference between
hurting you and putting you in pain. You know, a
pinch isn't going a pinch isn't going to injure you,
but it will hurt you, know what I mean. Like,
that's that's all. That's my thing. I still want you
to play. I still want to compete against you. I
don't want to like take you out like that. That's
that's that's not honorable, you know what I mean. But

(01:04:36):
if we are in that pal up, you know, I
learned how to do that your pointer in your middle finger,
with your thumb, how you pinch with the it's like
a different type of pinch than with your thumb and
your pointer. It's no, no, no, it's not. It's you
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:04:52):
You sound like when you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
You sound like a twelve year old kid. Next thing,
you know, you know, he's gonna come over fit me
the heart hit me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
I might have bit too. I might have bit if
if I was in a position where I could get
your leg or your arm into my face masks, if
I could get my face mask up and bite you,
I would have bit you too.

Speaker 10 (01:05:15):
I had been biting somebody who might be one of
the most vild, disgusting things there is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I've been in a couple of those games. I
can remember going against Butler and mine Heart brothers, and
I bit one of them because they stepped on my hands.

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
That's why I did what I That's why I did
what I did, by the way, because they stepped up,
they stopped on my hand with speech. So yeah, I mean,
but fighting fighting is gross.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
But they were too strong for me to pinch them,
you know. And there they were just too strong. The
only way that I could penetrate and hurt was was
to bite. So I got a hold of that leg too.

Speaker 10 (01:05:53):
Board kids. After about two months is hand blew up
like a balloon.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
It was his leg, was his leg whatever?

Speaker 10 (01:06:01):
I mean, My god, lamar Arrington fit him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
I gave him raby. I was a.

Speaker 10 (01:06:08):
What's wrong, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with your leg? Well,
lamar Arrington bit me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Uh Pete always a fun ride here on a Tuesday morning,
get him on AX at Prisco CBS.

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
You believe it, by the way, can you believe it?
By the way, the season is actually here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's right around the corner.

Speaker 10 (01:06:26):
I got my first training camp is next Saturday at
Camp Safty in Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
They need a dome, No, they need.

Speaker 10 (01:06:36):
They need They need to toughen up is what they
need to do. They welcome me with open arms. I
can't wait for Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
There he is, the great Pete Prisco with us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Pete, we appreciate it. We'll do
it again next Tuesday.

Speaker 10 (01:06:47):
You guys all right, B