July 31, 2025 • 57 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Pro Football Hall of Fame kicks off tonight and the guys believe there’s been a shift in how teams value reps. Kwame Brown goes on an epic rant against Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas. And Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys LIVE from his Training Camp Tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Football's back football, come on, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh my god, got the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Come on, man, it's back. I feel like you guys
are making fun of it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know how how long I'm gonna watch it for,
but it will be on in the vicinity for the
entirety of the game. All right, I'll just say that, Okay,
it is because after this it's all downhill, Like we
were past the rough parts. We don't have to worry
about sex toys and wigs falling on the floor at
a w NBA game anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That is gone. Those days are over.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now it's football, and it's back with the Hall of
Fame game. Kind of a couple of meatheads and Harbaugh
and Dan Campbell. How much show do you think they're
gonna go through in this game tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Buddy. They don't chew anymore. It's all zen's everyone does zens.
That's what it had. Little pouches.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, this is the same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
No, it's not anything at all. It's like it's straight
nicotine dang in a pouch. Yeah, and a little white
pouch looks like. Some people call him pillows pillows of goodness.
Some people call them, Uh, he's done zens guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Oh yeah, I'm not a big fan. Well I'm just
not a big fan of lippers at all. But uh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Is your plasticity that that's what it does.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Interesting one one of my uh letterman brother in they
he loves them. I pop two of them. Nice little bus.
You get a nice little bus wakes you up right? Yeah,
you get nice little bus man. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It ain't is it ain't? Is is crazy? Is that Copenhagen?
You know? But well it's different.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Yeah, that Copenhagen boy, that's for grown men only. I
mean it might be a grown woman out there too
that does it. But got Lee, I ain't never seen.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It, did you hear least Copenhagen slap? But Lee doing
it into the mic.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
It's not that good today.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But he does that when he doesn't have I know it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really it's his thing. It's like it's uh, you know,
it's own little tick.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yes, it's definitely a tick, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So var you're in the lash building, Uh, I mean,
are people popping zins, ready to start laying the lumber
out a little bit there or what how's that looking?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't I don't see anyone in here right now. No,
that's kind of disappointing, right I can. You don't have
the boys in there getting fired up ready to go.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
I think they start coming in right now. I believe
six o'clock is the hour that keep players keep Now, well,
I think it's a bad sign.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I think it's a bad sign. Just letting you know.
I mean, I think right now. I was just down
out Ohio State's camp. It's in there. They're saying, Yeah,
they're supposed to be their week off. No guys are
in there grinding. Wow, that's the team to beat.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I'm just saying, Okay, I feel like every team is
the team to beat. That's why we run with that
one and O type of deal as ours our mantra.
You know, every team is a team to beat. Can't
can't look past one. You know, Notre Dame knows about that,
you know what I mean? So yeah, look past that
that one team. Man, you gotta always keep all of them. Well,
(03:42):
you know, you hit me with Ohio.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
State, so I gotta hit him, I gotta hit him back.
But but and you're hitting me back. But like ten States,
got to worry about a number of teams. Then, you
know what I'm saying, We gotta worry about every team.
I said, every team that you're.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I gotta worry about that little girl that was sitting
in front of me yesterday on my flight. That's what
I gotta worry about. Sure enough made it. I'm two
for two. I'm two for two with girls and flights.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're saying her her mom brought the toolbox too.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Huh, yes she did. I mean it's there hammers.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So that baby was loud. I wanted to body slam
that little kid.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And then I saw the mom turned around and picked
something up out of the chair, and I was like, ah,
what a nice baby. I'll tell you what what like
you know, like, you just got to enjoy yourself. Man,
you know you're flying first row. You just got to
enjoy yourself. And then I just put my headphones on.
I had no more issues.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, well, at least she got through safe. Was the
cafe open when you got there at Stay College Airport?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
I got it and had like eleven I don't know,
it's not open. They do not have them type, they
don't carry them type of hours.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So with that being said, I do feel like there's
been a shift in the NFL. Okay, I feel like
players shi a shift. Oh okay, not a shift, yeah no, no,
no shift. I mean, okay, that I know of, But
there is a shift in the NFL, and I feel
like players, all of a sudden are now starting to
(05:25):
embrace the preseason again.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Tua Tagobai looa.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's not too good for the preseason, right, He's not
one of these guys who dismisses the preseason and says
those games don't count. I don't want any part of that.
Here was the Dolphins quarterback yesterday.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
I'd definitely love to get some preseason snaps.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
In no doubt.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
It's a new season, it's a new year. I got
to get things tuned in with the guys again.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
All of that.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
I don't think I'm better than anyone on this team,
or I think I'm too cool to get reps on,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
During preseason games.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
Now, Like, I don't mind that at all. I would
love that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So you got Tuoa once in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Joe Burrow is now going to be playing in the
preseason because Zach Taylor's trying to come up with a
solution for why they're so awful to start out the
year each season, so he's gonna be participating, like things
are changing.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
They come free on one of them a gap blitzes
the preseason. Oh boys, get hit in the mouth and
get hit in the face, and then all all that
reason and I ain't too good. Yeah, all right, you
won't be standing right on that sideline.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Strap it in preseason.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Strap it out.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's got some value now, all right? People want part
of this.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's always had value. I mean, here's part of what
you hear sometimes in preseason games. You know, we used
to have four. The third one was the one that
teams would actually game plan for, like they would go
through their normal week of preparation, so you'd have your
first down, second hand install, third down, you know, red zone,
two minute, all that stuff, and you would you would
break it down that way and that was your dress
(06:54):
rehearsal game. Fourth one was you want to see a
lot of the backups back into the roster guys play. Well,
what happened a lot of times in that game was
you'd see coaches say, hey, we want our guys to
play on islands, Like we know they can play in
zone coverage, like they can cover space, but we want
to see if they could play on islands. And so
(07:15):
they wanted to see if they could match up. They
want to see how they, you know, could could handle
some of that. And sometimes they want to see how
they could handle Hey there's this stunt, this blitz package
and all that. You would hear coaches before the game
basically say to one another like, hey, you know, test
this guy out, bring some pressure, like like your your
(07:35):
coach saying to another team like hey make sure like
I'm being real, like they would want to see and
they'd be like, hey, what do you guys want to see?
And it would be that sort of conversation before space
preseason games so each team could make the proper evaluation.
Now I'm not said that happening in every preseason game,
but it definitely happened in the fourth one for sure,
(07:57):
and probably some like some mix standing and throughout you know,
first second, they'd see some things from time to time.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Which makes the people that bet on those games even
worse m knowing that there was agreements that were being
made between coaches on that give this guy a little
something to give him a different look.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, that is something.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Q be getting stuff that don't nobody else get. But
you know, all I say is fourth game. You know
you don't you never played like you got like one
one series, but third, third preseason game. That was dress rehearsal.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
For the guys, right, Like you're you're.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Going into the third, third week of or third game,
and I guess it's what, it's only three now, right,
it's not. It's not four, it's only three.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So now it's really the second one if they do
it second game. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
You know, preseason is a little tricky, and it's tricky
from the standpoint of as a as a starter. It's like,
you want to get real game rep feelings, right, so
you can't get the same feeling in a preseason game
that you would get in practice. And I know people
(09:13):
always talk about it. It's not overstated, it's it's very true.
You cannot replicate a rep in a game versus a practice.
And so when you when you get into those games
and you see a different team, even when you have
those team practices, the intensity level is a lot different.
(09:36):
You know, you feel it those enter team practice or
and you know, like you know, teams come together, you
know at somebody's training camp, they scrimmage, it's different. It's
a different level of energy. But even a game, it's
just it's different having the referees out there, you go
through the whole regiment of what the game represents, the
whole dress rehearsal of what the show.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Is going to be, and you get yeah, it's live,
it's live.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So it just you know, for me, I think that
there there is that idea of getting in there, getting
a feel for what it feels like and getting out
of there before you you know, get banged up. And
and for other guys, you got to make the team.
I mean there's there aren't very many spots, Like people
(10:22):
would be astonished about how few of positions are open
on a roster for NFL football team, So you got
to get out there and get film.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was going to ask you as that because the
subject came up where Harbaugh was talking about who's going to.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Play, who's not going to play. Trey Lance is going
to get the start.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Other veterans aren't going to get you know, any playing time,
and I just thought to myself, So he's telling you,
all right, here's who the starters are, Like, these are
already locked in, those spots are taken. How many spots
are actually available or to be to be had just
based on preseason action and practice and training camp.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It depends just that team. But it's not many. I
mean it's like, yeah, it's it's like five. I mean
there's there's ultimately about five spots, maybe seven spots they're
looking at to be you know, back up. And really
it's special teams. People oftentimes don't realize the importance of
special teams. You've got most likely three maybe four guys,
(11:27):
you know, outside of your kicker punter, which there could
be guys battling there, and long snapper potential battle there,
and then you've got like three other core special teams players.
So those guys are like guys who are like a
great gunner on punt who will be incredible at running
downfield and be able to cover down on the ball.
There'll be guys who are on kickoff are you're you know,
(11:48):
L four R four, you know, as far as where
they are in the mix of you know, kickoff coverage
and there's guys there at least that's how it used
to be before they change the rule. So there's about
three guys there that they're staples, like those are core
special teams players. They're pretty much on every single special
(12:08):
teams and they're a backup on defense usually or maybe offense.
And then outside of that, it's like there's some backup
positions like how many wide receivers a you're taking, how
many linemen are you taking, how many quarterbacks are you taking.
So that's just on offense, like I would I would
actually say there's probably more decisions that are being made
(12:29):
for the back end of the roster on offense than defense,
only because it's it's kind of a shoe in for
some of the core special teams guys, like they're gonna
be needed on special teams, but they're also needed on defense.
So if you're a defensive back and you can make
your case for being like a guy who's gonna impact
special teams, you're gonna make the roster. And so that
(12:51):
is that is more important than I think anyone can
talk about or discuss, And I know we don't talk
about it enough and it feels like we're phasing out
special teams. But this time of year, you talk to
any NFL coach, they'll be like, dude, get out there
on teams, like you do everything you can to make
special teams, and then you will make the roster and
then you'll work your way up from there. You know,
(13:12):
a lot of players have worked the way up from
a special teams player into you know, a starter in
some degree.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
So a lot that goes into special teams. Man, that
is not for the faint of heart. I'll tell you that.
You see the things that they have to do, and
I mean kickoffs. Kickoffs have been so minimized because the
kickers are knocking them through the uprights, you know, on kickoffs,
so you don't you don't really see the type of
valance that used to exist on kickoffs that you did
(13:41):
in years years past. But punts are are super important
and they're super valient, valient plays for some of the
guys that are out there. So while they've tried to
kind of manage some of the the valance out of
out of special teams, it is still a tremend this
opportunity for a guy to stay on a roster, to
(14:05):
to have longevity in the National Football league. There are
some guys you will never know their names, but they'll
be in the league for you know, double digits of years.
I remember Ethan Albright, our our long snapper. Well I
called him big Rid. Now he's a big ginger. He
just snapped. All he did was snap. But he was
(14:28):
so efficient at snapping for so long that you know,
he had a very very long career, a very successful career,
quietly went about making his money while you see all
of these other guys out here, the few guys that
you know, everybody has the conversations about getting these large
contracts and crazy contracts. You know, there actually really are
(14:48):
some guys that come in with the hard hat mentality
and get paid a very nice sum of money. Even
though it's not one hundred million dollar contracts. It's it's
real leads like you you know that's true. Well, I
was just gonna say that, what like Matthew Slater. Matthew
Slater played what sixteen years as a special teamer. Yeah,
(15:09):
and and people have argued like Belichick's like he's one
of the greatest players I've ever coached.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm trying to find out what his career earnings were.
If you guys had to guess. What do you think
Matthew Slater's career earnings were as a special teamer?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Is double digit? Yeah, he probably earned two millions something
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Thirty million dollars, just over thirty million dollars in his career.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That ain't bad.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I mean, like after taxes, that's that's you know.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I'll just say this again, that is not something to
sneeze at when you understand how you have a dollar.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Oh God, you an't one, huh. That timing was unbelievable.
I don't want to I don't know how you said that,
and I sneezed at that very moment. Bless you, Brady,
Bless you Brady. That was bizarre.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Are bless you football? Jesus blesses you, you know, bless
you anyway, Yeah, there you go. Notre Dame, Baby, I
heard Notre Dame like three, four, five, six, seven times yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh Brady Brady.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
People really love you, man, People really love Brady Quinn.
I don't know what it is about good looking quarterbacks
that play out Notre Dame, but you're high on the
list of good looking quarterbacks that people love from Notre Dame.
I mean, I mean I love you, my little bro.
But people love Brady Quinn. I hear about you every.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Time I'm showing you guys. By the way, the photo
of the guy who won our Blue Jacket Golf Outing,
so LaVar, I think I've told you this. We give
out an award. We give out a blue jacket like
a blazer to the guy who looks like he's having
the most fun.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
He's got a hole in his arm, and he's missing
another arm him and he's got.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
His other arms there, but he uh, Josh Phoebus, the
first ever two time winner of the Blue Jacket Golf Outing,
who really showed up and showed out, also needed some stitches,
so he was it was a tremendous performance. Yeah, he
had a pretty good gash, but I'm not exactly sure
how it happened, but he he was able to power
(17:25):
through and finish the round.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like he's like one of those guys that like one
of those people that survived a serial killer. Like he
got a bunch of other people, but you know, here's
one that survived with with a hole in his arm,
blood all over his shirt, just uh, just wearing it
and proud. The mustache. The mustache, I was about to
go to the mustache. Look, the mustache tells you all
you need to know. He came ready.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He came ready, like he looked like Johnny Ringo, like
bro he does. So my pops typically gives a speech.
He typically gives a speech before we all go well,
we all take a shot of Irish whiskey. And in
this case, we've transitioned over to Josh. As you know,
(18:07):
Josh you know, served in our military and uh loves
the event, loves loves our foundation. So he gives quite.
He gives quite the speech before the golf outing, and
I think he got himself a little too juiced. UF.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, look, I mean there's been, you know, reportedly other
incidents that have taken place there with golf carts and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So oh, yeah, we used to have night golf that ended.
We didn't advertise it, but there was another cart in
the pond. But basically our insurance got dropped for that event,
so we couldn't couldn't do that anymore. Yeah, there's a
lot of wild things going. Jonas came one year LeVar,
which you guys will have to make it out. I
(18:49):
feel like Lee Lee is immediately in contention for winning it.
But Jonas came out one year got pretty blasted. He
just remembers that one specific player who really wanted some spaghetti.
I'll just put it that way. He was really hungry
for some spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, I don't think I was alone, and I
think I know asked somebody. It might have been Pat
or Jake, and I just asked him, like man like,
he's talking about that a lot, like like Gus can't
let that go, like all day, he talked about it
all day.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Really hungry mom, spaghetti got some problems.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, he does have some problems,
that is true.
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Speaker 4 (19:48):
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Speaker 3 (20:29):
So Lead to Laugh is in the lab trying to.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
That's why you were laughing and trying to figure out
how to get that thing out, get all se vanity
off of it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So Kwame Brown took a victory lap on social media
yesterday with the news of not only Gilbert Arenas getting
arrested for the gambling or casino ring that he was
having in a home that he rented or didn't rent,
whatever his story is, and Shannon Sharp the news.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Coming out that he will not be back at ESPN, And.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So Kwame Brown took the social media and unloaded on
both of those news stories.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And so Lee is.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Trying to who will not be back with ESPN?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Shannon Sharp will not be back? Yeah, oh wow, that
also came out yesterday. So I don't know, is there
any surprise to that No, that's what I was going
to say. I don't I don't know why anybody would
have been surprised by that. I mean, it seemed like
that's the way it was going. Like Steven A even
sort of almost distanced himself.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, he distanced himself. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So there's a there's a lot going on. Hopefully Lee
will be able to uh to put that together. Now,
what do you guys think the chances are that Lee's
able to do this in this amount of time and
have there not be at least one offensive word get
through the audio.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's why I don't think it's going to happen. So, no,
not gonna happen.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
I'm gonna say he can do He's really good, like
he is good at editing like they're they're so and
and he's also good at leaving just enough to where
you're like, ooh, that almost completely came through there, to
where some people would just take out the entire sentence
to avoid any issues.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Lee'll let some stuff slide. So we'll see whether or not.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Lee de Lapp will we'll have that figured out and
sort it out for us here coming up coming up momentarily.
So there's that there's also Trey Hendrickson. Trey Hendrickson and
the Cincinnati Bengals is the way Lisle has given me instruction.
All right, we don't want to get into the Trey
Hendrickson stuff. Lee is getting confident here. It looks like
(22:42):
we are moments away from seeing whether or not Lee
has masterfully put in Kwame Brown, who was on social media, which,
by the way, I think Kwame Brown. The name of
his stream is the buzz Life.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, it's like KBB a Kwame Brown bus Life.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's just you're talking about somebody who popped up a
couple of years ago and just made his presence felt,
and it was just like, Okay, I've sat back, I've
heard all the jokes, I've heard everybody make claims about me,
and I'm just gonna start unloading, and I'm going to
do it on my terms and get even.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I know Whitlock's a big fan of Kwame Brown all
of a sudden, all right, so we do have Kwame Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
All right, So let's see whether or not Lee was
able to pieces together. Lee, was this one of your
more difficult editing jobs that you've done in recent memory?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Well, yeah, it's a memorable one. It's definitely up there
for having to turn around and short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Lee, what confidence do you have that you got every
single thing that shouldn't make it on air.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty like.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Percentage like eighty ninety ten.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
I'm ninety five percent sure that everything is there.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
All right, let's go leave, all right? So here we
job buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Here is Kwame Brown celebrating the dismissal of Shannon Sharp
at ESPN, and also Gilbertorita is getting arrested.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
And I told people one thing.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
I said, this is a stupid he gonna self sabotage.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
He's a dummy. Let me close this dough.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
It's like my birthday, Shannon Sharp, your thick tongue AD
five Gil, You and the slammer you got there if
you run your mouth, see you facing about fifteen years
five years on each shard. Right, But your dumb ass
were playing cards with the really mob.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
So now you're gonna have to make a decision.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
You can't snitch because your dumb ass say, you know, chill, Gil.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So you can't chill. So you gotta you gotta fight
this one out. You gotta go for what you know.
So listen here.
Speaker 12 (24:52):
We know you can't snitch, so you're gonna be sold
for the next fifteen years. Oh no, all that you
were talking, you was a dumb ass veteran and you
swagging career. Now you don't swagging P's second career.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So dang well, they'd be coming for Kwame though, man
and Kwame be getting it off his chair.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I know Kwame.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I spent a lot of time around Kwame when we
were in DC, and he's a real good dude.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I banged with Kwame.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Like as a person, I think he's a real like
from my experiences, Super always was a humble dude, like
real quiet, unassuming type dude. Just a good, kind hearted dude.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
And I don't know why this became a thing, like
the whole like when the whole bust narrative became so
prevalent on him in DC. It's like certain people wouldn't
leave him alone. And I guess, I guess people found
out the hard way. He got a lot to say.
I mean, now, y'all, didn't you know when I say
(26:01):
y'all the people who was doing that to him? Now
he's you know, he's come out of his shell and
he's saying what he feels about it. And I mean
whether you like the the delivery or the words that
he uses and doing so he says how he speaks
is he speaks his mind.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Say about Shannon Sharp again?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Can we play that old big thick tongue? Is that
what he said?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
He's just starting the beginning with you.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
And I told people one thing. I said, this is stupid.
He don't self sabotage. He's a dummy. The do It's
like my birthday, Shannon Sharp five.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
That ain't right.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
People ain't right for taking shots at at at Shannon's
thick tongue gas either, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Like that ain't right man. It's a lot of people
make fun of him, Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
What is happening?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Man? Youngloaded on them?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey rabbits got the gun?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
You know he ain't really say it nothing though, But
I mean, but that is some classic key key talking trash.
I mean, that is dancing over people's few you know,
they're they're graves.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I mean that definitely would be was considered.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh my god, that's just literally nobody safe, nobody safe man.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Why is why is why is media beef? Why is
it so prominent and prevalent. It seems like everyone is
like every time you turn around, somebody is beefing with
somebody in media, like Cam beefing with with uh with Ryan.
Ryan Clark is always, by the way, connected to somebody's
(27:58):
media beef. He goes in and then he apologizes, and
then it turned into a whole nother thing.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I don't know or I don't know RC. I don't
know how that works.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
But then Cam is coming out, and then the dude
from the what is it a million dollars a game?
I can't I'm trying to remember his name. Why am
I blanking on? His name's Gilly? Gilly? Like guys are
like straight media beefing out here. Steven A has been
a part of media beef.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think a lot of them are choreographed.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I just you think so.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I just think a lot of them are bs. It's
just to try and get publicity for the show. It's
like it seems like a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
They're like texting on the side shone like playing all this.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The longer you do this, the more you realize there's
a large majority of it that's like pro wrestling just
is what it is. Not this show this show is real.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I think we tried. We don't try to media beef
with anybody.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I don't care enough to try to media beef with
with somebody, Like what I'm gonna come at you for?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
What does it matter? Well, it's to me. It's like
a microcosm of our society. Like people didn't used to
beef back and then they just duke it out. They're like, oh,
that's how you feel about me. Let's go yeah, he imai,
put your put your dukes up here. Now I want
to say that. Flip it for real, flip And now
(29:24):
we've got where it's like, No, I'm gonna say mean
things about you on my podcast, and then you can
say mean things about me on your podcast, and then
I'll send some tweets out and do some like I
g lives. That's what I'm gonna do that. That's what
a real tough guy does. Now, it's just I don't know,
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
It's weird that grown ass men is they're out here
doing that, Like, well, you can make.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
The case like it's not you're not really grown ass.
If that's what you're to go into, well you ain't
standing in it.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I'll tell you that you ain't standing on ten toes
down and grown ass men business.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'll tell you that, I don't know how people have
time for it. I don't either, I really tell.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, in all seriousness, I don't. There's only so much
time in your day. If you're investing into that, what
does it say about you as a dad? What does
it say about you as a husband or as a person.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm saying that's my thought. I've got one kid. I
can't imagine what you guys go through. I think that's
probably part of the reason why there's no media beefs,
because you realize, oh, that's time I could be spending
with my kids, not on X or Instagram feuding with
somebody because they might have been offended by something I said.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Just a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
The dude, Charleston White went on Gilly and said, well,
you don't have that family time with your kid anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
He did, like bruh, his son got murdered.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Like these dudes be going really really yes, these dudes
be going crazy deep with with the stuff they be
throwing at each other back and forth and this and this.
Like you said the podcasting show World, it's like it's
like sets.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It's like clicks, you know what I mean, Like, I'm
gonna go at this dude.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I thought Ryan Clark and Cam Newton were cool, Like,
weren't they doing a.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Show together on ESPN? I thought I thought Cam got
on with ESPN because RC. Actually, you see these dudes
is out here like that. Make sure there was something
you know, Ryan and cues of something racial. Yeah, it's
usually the go to playbook there for Ryan. Same tell
me I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
That's got to be racist. He lives in that woke space.
That's for certain that he does live in that space.
I mean, I love him, that's that's my home, my
my teammate homie from way back. I just I don't know,
I don't you know, I haven't been around him in years, though,
I don't. People change, things changed, I don't know, you know,
it's it's it's interesting though, but.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Un so Yeah, not too.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I mean my current teammate, you know, and I don't
let nobody talk bad about him. I'm the only one
that talked bad about Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You know what I mean. That's right, that's my big bro.
That's right, it's my big bro.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I could talk trash, but you do it, I'm gonna
pop you and like you said, pop you in your mouth,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Like catch that too for real? Anyway, Lee, what the
hell is going on with you? First off, you've changed
your shirt today. I've seen you grimacing multiple times, grabbing
your side. You stood up, done the hole where you
shake your t shirt out?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
What are you doing? Lee?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You and your thick tongue ass? What are you doing? Lee?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
I ate too much Indian food last night.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
It was too spicy for the lady friend, so I
had to eat two servings and then I ate them
on the way out the door, which probably was better.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
What Ladyfred, my roommate, you know that your your your?
Last time I heard she was in Japan or something
or just left? Yeah she beck? Did you know she
was coming back?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, she went out to Japan for her birthday.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
You know, they need to do a sequel on Along
Came Poly and call it Along Came Lee. You know,
you know the hippo cannot be the leopard or the
zebra because well he the hip.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, happy happy people can Can we break this down?
Like how many people go to Japan for their birthday
that are from the United State.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I don't have a number for you on that. At
least one.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
There was some tossing up to take I mean right,
hen and there is some there is some samurai work
going on there. Yeah, someone said Ohio, oh hi, and
then they said.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And then waxed off from me for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All seriousness. Yes, are we still doing this?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I'm still hurting from the Indian food and that's what
we're asking this. I'm still hurting.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
That was not specifically what I was asking. That was.
Barrett Sanders is like, right there.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Answer the question with your tongue.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Ass.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
I'm still happy at home with with the with my
lady friend.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, you guys haven't sold your plass. No, I'm not
going to.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Marketing there.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Last thing, why the why the shirt change?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
So that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
So I got a nice little package from one of
our listeners this morning. H Jeff Miller out in Wisconsin,
who's a host of a of a podcast called Dead
on the Bases. A sports fan reviews horror movies and
a horror fan reviews sports movies. It's their podcast. Their
tenth season is just kicking underway. So he sent me
some some cool swag.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
He does a podcast about horse, about Horse, about yores, corse,
w hhow.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Or yeah, horror?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (35:04):
How?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Movies, horror sports fan horror movies, and a horror movie
fan review movies.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Hobart shout out to the guys there from a decade, Ak.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Why were you wafting your shirt? Is that because you
were farting and you thought that that was gonna help
it or something?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
No, I'm checking out the field. I was checking out
the stretching. I got two shirts, so you saw me
Jane shirts.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
And what else did you get?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
He knows you?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What else did you get?
Speaker 7 (35:31):
Beer coozies?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Hell yeah, nice beer cozies, T shirts and some coos
and on the basis beer coozies with with the nice
QR code on the back, so get them right to
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, so he doesn't know you know you that well
because you would have STDN alcohol with it if he
knew you that well.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I got to check the bottom of the package here.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
By the way, the Indian food, I don't even get
it during on a work and it makes.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It it was a bad decision.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Eating more on the that was like still out and
about which was gross.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
So we've documented Lorena who gets gifts and packages sent
to her from all She's literally got an entire shaved
ice machine now in the studio. That's somebody said, party
this rup everything. An entire shaved ice machine.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
She'd be trapping the hell out of them on our
social delmay attention to Lorena. Make sure you check out
radio mouth because she will trap the hell out of
your thick tongue ass out there.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
And what the hell are you gonna do with a
shaved ice machine in.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The I don't know.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I'm gonna take it home and I'm gonna make icys
by my pool and I'm gonna eat them in my bikini.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Why wouldn't you do them here?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
On lab though? She drops in in her bikini, and
then people are start hitting on Twitter, what's what's your
hand oil?
Speaker 13 (36:55):
And we're gonna make all different concoctions to write because
we have all the flavors, and I like the kind
that have the creamy stuff in it too, So I'm
going to like the can you do alcohol?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And we know exactly what you're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yes, yes, you get you can put booze in those
can't I.
Speaker 13 (37:11):
Have a Pina Colada flavor, and he said to put
a minute, so thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
One of them is tiger's blood.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Oh wow, how many those you gonna have? Leave with
your thick tongue ass.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I'm gonna have some, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, as.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
The emergency booz.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I'll come by the pool have some
shaved Yeah, pull out the emergency flask.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
By the way, that.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Your roommate be with your thick tongue ass.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
That should be a japan She won't, No, she won't.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
She's going back to Japan.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Lee, She's gonna be on the roof of a building nearby.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Luck in you all, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
She's like who you look at? Boy, he's like his
thick tong ass. Unbelievable. By the way, we didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
They've got shirts, koozies, they've got a shaved ice.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
We got nothing. Zil Man.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh hey, the main attraction may not wrong with it. Uh,
it is two pros and a cup of joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. We don't need any of that
because we got.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Dare you ever see Lorena's pool?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah? Nice pool?
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Oh yes, it's quite lovely.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Right now, we welcome in the one and only Albert Breer,
Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You can also see his work on Amazon Prime M's
NFL coverage AB. Where are you at currently doing the show?
Speaker 10 (39:09):
Well, first of all, thanks for playing my song there.
I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, I had to Jesus prices are two halt.
Speaker 10 (39:17):
Actually, just as you were saying that, my my second
alarm went off, so I had to shut the alarm.
That's what the pause was there. I'm in San Francisco,
were well, I guess more specifically Santa Clara. So yeah,
I'm feeling like you guys are out there. This five
uh two of us at five fifteen feels a little
different or five twenty or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, I mean it's a damn West Coast super bowls.
Speaker 10 (39:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The super Bowl is going to be there again this year.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
So yeah, no, I I remember coming out for remember
making making my way out there. I think it was
man like, like I was like running clothes or something
one year.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Right Vegas.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
It was in Vegas, Vegas.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Than you had to lead the lap fall too or
or or a slip off because you was bleeding.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
You was a bloody dude with all that time.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I though you were shaving. You used the hotel shaver
and oh that's right.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
Yeah, Like I think I forgot my razor at home,
so then I hadn't had a chance to go like
CBS or whatever yet, so I had the cheap never used,
like the cheap hotel shave. Not a good idea, Albert.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I'm wondering, were you surprised that Trey Hendrickson posted the
uh the picture last week on Instagram of him just
traveling back home to Florida, only to turn around and
come back with no deal in place?
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Yeah? Do you think he drove like both ways because
it looked like the way down like that was taking
him the highway, wasn't it, right?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I wonder people, I wonder.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
People on a plane tickets to go back.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (40:44):
I thought it kind of added to the drama too, right,
like like he was so mad he didn't have time
to to to a range of flights, got in his
car and drove back. You know. Yeah, you know, like
this thing's been so back and forth, and I think
I said to you guys a few times, like so
we predictable with any fb's. And the big part of
it is because you know, there is a personal element
(41:06):
to it, because it's lasted three off seasons, you know,
and that two years ago is really when this started.
And the root of it was really four years ago
when he first time with the Bengals, because that happened
during you know, one of the COVID off seasons where
the cap was down, and so the deals, the deals
that we're going that were that were going out that
(41:27):
off season were depressed. So two years later and he
wants a correction on it, you know, they have a
pretty lengthy negotiation over that. They can't they can't really
do anything substantial, so they do a one year band
aid extension. Then last year he goes back to the table,
gets nothing an hour back here again, and you know,
(41:50):
I think it's a result of a couple of things.
I mean, the first, of course, is the explosion of
the market with head rushers. We're seeing a similar dynamic
at receiver, which I think is contributed to Terry McLaurin
situation in Washington, you know. And then I think there's
just the way the Bengals have always done business and
the fact that they made exceptions for Joe Burrow and
(42:11):
Jamar Chase and then they gave t Higgins a new
deal but didn't make the same exceptions for him, and
you know, does does does he go in the category
with with Chase and Burrow or does he go in
the category with Higgins? You know. Obviously, as AIDS contributes to,
some of the teams were louctant to guarantee money down
the road. So again, to me, it's been the most
(42:34):
complicated of them. I think they're a point now where
the big number, like the average per year, is less
of an issue, and we'll see if they can bridge
the gap of the guarantees. I think that's really where
the problem is now. And I'll look, like, you know,
two weekends ago, it looked like they were going to
get a deal done ahead of him leaving and going
(42:55):
back to Florida, and that Monday things completely fell apart.
So that's sort of example how volatile the whole thing's been.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Albert tell us about just where things are at in
Dallas between Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys. Have we
gotten any update? Are they getting any closer to a deal?
Speaker 10 (43:13):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
It's nowhere.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
But you know, Cee Lamb was nowhere last year, you
know at this time. You know, Dak Prescott, like I
didn't feel like they were close when they opened camp
last summer. So I mean, like that's the thing, Brady
is like we attached so much drama to these things,
you know, and like I don't know, you're talking about
(43:36):
the Instagram post with Trey Hendrickson and and and you know,
like I I think we treat these things that their
soap operas and like things can't be fixed. They always
can be fixed. I mean, these things can turn around
in a hurry and a lot of times, like what
these things really need is deadlines. And you know, when
(43:57):
a guy shows up to camp, like Michael showed up
to camp, there's less urgency in everybody to get a
deal done. You know, the player is still the players
isn't losing money. You know, the team knows the guy
can play, and those how to get himself ready to play,
even if he's not practicing fully. You know, what you
need is a deadline. And you know, I guess again,
(44:17):
the guy's in camp, so I takes the urgency off
of everything. And so what's the next deadline? Well, the
deadline really is the season, you know, And so you know,
we saw that last year, even with CD holding out
like where it was costing him money. You know, I like,
you need a deadline and and and and the season.
The start of the season gave the Cowboys that deadline
(44:37):
with CD and DAK last year and they got those
things done. And no, it's not a good place right now,
but that doesn't mean it's a reparable. You again, I
think I think that the way these things are covered
sometimes like borderline you're responsible, you know what I mean,
because we've all seen these things turned very fast over
and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Maybe I made the comment the statement earlier about Aaron Rodgers.
It sounds as though he's actually happy for once, and
and that he's talking from he's speaking from more of
a I'm just talking about things and how I feel,
versus defending himself. I mean, his latest quote was him,
(45:20):
you know, defending Mike Tomlin and of sorts. But it
just seems as though he has like a happiness about him.
I mean, how do you see I said this could
be a dangerous thing because a happy Aaron Rodgers could
be you know, a positive thing for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
How how you know, how has it been going for
him and his interactions seems like he's been well received.
Speaker 10 (45:42):
Yeah, I mean, LeVar feels a little bit like the
way that the world's off his shoulders maybe right that way,
do you I mean, it sounds like it, Yeah, And
I think that's a result of going to a place
where they're just asking to go play quarterback, you know.
You know, it's the last couple of years in Great
mean they obviously things were strained and there was a
lot going on there, and you know, I think everybody
(46:05):
felt the way to that, you know, and then he
gets to the Jets and you know, the Jets had
the longest playoffs playoffs for out in the NFL, and
you know, you had this group of talented young players.
A lot of those guys are still there, and you know,
it was on it was on the errand to kind
of like lift the boat, you know what I mean,
and lift all boats and be the guy who's going
(46:27):
to come in and show everybody how to win and
be the guy who changes the face of the organization,
you know, and he's got to be asked to do
any of that.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 10 (46:37):
Just come in and play quarterback. You know, there are
a bunch of veterans who don't need to be taught
what to do there. You know, like you've got Jalen
Ramsey and TJ. Watt and Darius Slay and Cam Hayward
and DK Metcalf. You know, it's you know, I think
for him, you know, this was part of why he
signed in Pittsburgh. You know, if you got to the Giants,
(46:57):
I think there were have been a little bit of
a similar time as it was with the Jets, where
it was like, you have some talented young guys here, Dexter, Lawrence, Malik, Neighbors,
Andrew Thomas, you know, Brian Burns, Keevon Thibodeaux. But these
guys have never won, you know, and these guys have
never done it in the NFL that these guys have
never the great majority have never been to the playoffs before.
(47:20):
That's not what you're dealing with in Pittsburgh. You know,
Pittsburgh's only to a place it's got super Bowl winning
head coach, an established culture in the place for decades,
and a bunch of guys who've been around, and you know,
he can just go in there and play football. I
remember having a conversation with him last summer about, you know,
what he was trying to do, and how he'd spent
so much time and energy trying to prove to everybody
(47:41):
that he was more than a football player. He really
wanted to just appreciate playing football, and I think that's
sort of his mindset now. It's like like, this is
this is the opportunity for me to just go out
and focus on playing quarterback. I don't need to fix everything,
and I think you can see that in the way
that he's approaching all of it.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Albert Bridge ruinning us here on Fox Sports Radio, AB.
I know you were at Bears camp and there's been
mixed reviews about how everything looks there, and I'm just
surprised that people are surprised that the hiring of Ben
Johnson wasn't immediately going to solve all their issues. They
were a bad team. They've been a bad organization for
a while. Like, why why is there the feeling that, well,
(48:23):
you hired Ben Johnson, he was the guy to get
that should solve everything when it feels like they've got
more than just stuff to figure out when it comes
to their young quarterback.
Speaker 10 (48:33):
Yeah, I think I think part of it is, you know,
maybe people thought, like you turn on the TV, you
see the Lions, and it looks so pretty, you know
what I mean. On the offense. There's so much aesthetically
that you love, you know, watching the Detroit offense the
last couple of years, and maybe there's a little bit
of a thought that you know, oh well, you know,
(48:55):
you just snap your fingers and that's where it is.
And no one members because nobody was following their training
camps way like what it took to get there, you know,
like and what it took for the Lions to become
what they what they wound up being the last couple
of years on offense, so because nobody was tracking it
like that, you know, and they had a veteran quarterback,
(49:16):
so you know, I was there a little over a
week ago now, I think maybe about a week ago,
and it looked it didn't look good, you know, and
and and Kayla looked scattered, shating a little all over
the place and just talking to the guys they have
been included, Like, you know, part of it is they're
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trying to feed everyone through a fire hose to see
what they can handle, because there is a lot in
the offenseil it goes into it and you know, there
they're going through this process of trying to again like
put in everything and force feed everything, and then as
they get closer to the season, the plane is just
to narrow it down to a can do and what
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the other ten guys in the huddle can do. And so,
you know, I just think this is sort of Ben's
way of coaching, and you know, I think because of that,
you shouldn't be judging him on on what this looks
like in July and August. I mean, really, this is
about what it's going to look like in October November.
So because of the complexity of the offense, it's just
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a certain way that they're teaching it, in a certain
way that they're installing it. And you know, I think
it's it's it's it's going to look different as they
get a better handle on what everybody else can digest
and do out there on the field.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Hey, Albert we were talking about the Tennessee Titans earlier
and just some comments that cam Ward made where they're
at offensively feeling mid or however he put it. But
we were talking about just the timeline for Brian Callahan
there's head coach. I mean, is this one of those
seasons where there's not high expectations they're going to be
starting a rookie quarterback? The two quarterbacks behind him now
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with the Will levison'sury only have fifteen com mine start.
So if anything happens to cam Ward, there's probably not
much faith in what's behind him anyway, And Brandon Allen
or the other quarterbacks name escapes me. Could this be
like after this year that Titans are looking at a different
direction at head coach?
Speaker 10 (51:20):
Well, I mean, I guess anytime you bring in you know,
a new group in the front office, and they do
have a new general manager at Mike Boorganzi and assistant
GM and Dave Ziggel, and they've sort of slipped a
lot of the organization upside down. I suppose your radar's
got to be up for that. But I don't think
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there's going to be about winning nine or ten or
eleven games or being in the in the race of
the playoffs. To me, because the Titans are going through
such a massive rebuild, it's it's going to be I think,
you know about a feel for where they are organizationally
coming out of this year. And I think what you're
looking for if you're the Titans is you know, do
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we have you know, a group of young players coming
out us here that we feel like we can build
around and as the quarterback ascending and again, like I
think this comes down to like to me, like I
you know, I sort of like think you know what
you're talking about here. Brady is like a little bit
like a little bit like we just talked about with Chicago,
it's you know, cam coming from the offenses that he
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played in in college. There's an adjustment. And you know,
I talked to some of the coaches about this in
the spring where it's like he knows a lot of football,
but he has to learn how to put that football
into words because so much of what he was doing
in college, like you know, there was some handholding that
went on with the coaches, and that's not his fault.
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It's just the way college offenses work. So there was
an adjustment the way that there was that there's been
an adjustment with a lot of coaches or a lot
of quarterbacks coming from college, and so Cam had to
put in extra work and you know, do that early
in the morning with some of his young teammates to
get caught up. So I'm sure for him, for Cam specifically,
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you know, like he's still kind of going through that
some of those growing pains, and I'm sure he's feeling that,
you know, so it's like it doesn't feel quite natural yet.
I think it's what Cam's getting at. The goal for him,
I think it's going to be to get to that
point where he's a lot more comfortable. We'll get to
November December translate to that that's the field. And again,
like if that's like a six win team that looks
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like it's just sending at the top at the end
of the year, and you know, say Cam puts together,
you know, free, really solid performances in the last four
or five weeks, then I think you'll be where you
need to be really quick.
Speaker 6 (53:39):
Ab the owner of the Cleveland Browns, comes out and
basically says he had zero to do with Shador Sanders
being drafted. What what's your what's your take on it.
Speaker 10 (53:54):
Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I do think
he was I do believe the Browns when they say
schedule or where they had him graded was like in
a place where he was kind of sitting there on
the top of the board when they got to the
fifth round, sort of screaming at them, you know. But
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you know, I like I do. I also understood the
flip side of it, which is like you took a
quarterback in the third round. This was your your last tack.
You know, you didn't have a pick after that. They
didn't have any six rounders or seven rounders after that
after trading up. So there is there is a piece
that works like that team had a lot of needs
and he used a piece of capital on a position
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where they already had three players they'd invested in. So
do I think Jimmy's involvement with zero No, because you
know they met with Jimmy. I believed the morning of
you know, I talked about the plan in the morning
of date three and talked about the plan. But do
I think like Jimmy was pulling the card. I don't
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think Jimmy was pulling the card. I do think he's
being forced right about that.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
So I think you feel like he was distancing himself
from the Sanders.
Speaker 10 (55:11):
And I talk to people saying that. I understand people
thinking that, you know what I mean, because I look like,
you know, Shador has been behind relations to the time
he got there, and he's trying to catch up, you know,
And I think he's worked hard to catch up. He
was way behind the other three quarterbacks when he got there,
and he's still behind him. I don't think it was
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distancing himself from the pick and but I understand why
people would put two and two together on that. I
think it was more like he didn't want people to
think he was meddling, and he wanted to make sure
that people know that, you know, his general manager has
the power to make those decisions. I think that's what
it was, more than anything to do with distancing yourself
on the peck, Abe.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
We appreciated thanks for waking up early with us and
niners camp Abe.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
I got one more question, how have you ever heard
anyone call anyone else or I guess called him out
for having a thick tongue ass? Have you ever heard
that thick ass tongue familiar?
Speaker 10 (56:10):
I'm not familiar with do you know, I'm not not
familiar what it was that was that part of the
song and the rejoin.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
There No, no, do you want to?
Speaker 9 (56:19):
He?
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Do you want to? He is Kwame Brown who seems to
be very excited about Gilbert Arenas who recently got arrested
and dit whatever whatever happened. He's not he's got you know,
he his bond now so he's out. But this is
Kwame Brown talking about Gilbert Arenas and apparently Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 12 (56:37):
And I told people one thing, I said, this is
a stupid you don't self sabotage.
Speaker 8 (56:44):
He's a dummy.
Speaker 12 (56:45):
Let me close this do it's like my birthday, Shannon Sharp,
your tongue by you in the slammer you got there
if you run your mouth?
Speaker 3 (56:57):
So aby is that part of the vernacular? And you
in Columbus when you go back? Or how does that like?
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
You haven't found yourself thinking that way about somebody.
Speaker 10 (57:08):
I'll try. I'll try. I'll accuse someone on one of
my text just having a sick time of being a
sick time, and I'll report back and I'll tell you
what kind of respond.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
You got a screenshot it and send it over though.
Speaker 10 (57:21):
You got it, I got one, AB.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 10 (57:31):
Thanks guys, have a good one.
Is the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Football's back football, come on, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh my god, got the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Come on, man, it's back. I feel like you guys
are making fun of it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know how how long I'm gonna watch it for,
but it will be on in the vicinity for the
entirety of the game. All right, I'll just say that, Okay,
it is because after this it's all downhill, Like we
were past the rough parts. We don't have to worry
about sex toys and wigs falling on the floor at
a w NBA game anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That is gone. Those days are over.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now it's football, and it's back with the Hall of
Fame game. Kind of a couple of meatheads and Harbaugh
and Dan Campbell. How much show do you think they're
gonna go through in this game tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Buddy. They don't chew anymore. It's all zen's everyone does zens.
That's what it had. Little pouches.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, this is the same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
No, it's not anything at all. It's like it's straight
nicotine dang in a pouch. Yeah, and a little white
pouch looks like. Some people call him pillows pillows of goodness.
Some people call them, Uh, he's done zens guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Oh yeah, I'm not a big fan. Well I'm just
not a big fan of lippers at all. But uh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Is your plasticity that that's what it does.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Interesting one one of my uh letterman brother in they
he loves them. I pop two of them. Nice little bus.
You get a nice little bus wakes you up right? Yeah,
you get nice little bus man. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It ain't is it ain't? Is is crazy? Is that Copenhagen?
You know? But well it's different.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Yeah, that Copenhagen boy, that's for grown men only. I
mean it might be a grown woman out there too
that does it. But got Lee, I ain't never seen.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It, did you hear least Copenhagen slap? But Lee doing
it into the mic.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
It's not that good today.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But he does that when he doesn't have I know it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really it's his thing. It's like it's uh, you know,
it's own little tick.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yes, it's definitely a tick, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So var you're in the lash building, Uh, I mean,
are people popping zins, ready to start laying the lumber
out a little bit there or what how's that looking?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't I don't see anyone in here right now. No,
that's kind of disappointing, right I can. You don't have
the boys in there getting fired up ready to go.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
I think they start coming in right now. I believe
six o'clock is the hour that keep players keep Now, well,
I think it's a bad sign.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I think it's a bad sign. Just letting you know.
I mean, I think right now. I was just down
out Ohio State's camp. It's in there. They're saying, Yeah,
they're supposed to be their week off. No guys are
in there grinding. Wow, that's the team to beat.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I'm just saying, Okay, I feel like every team is
the team to beat. That's why we run with that
one and O type of deal as ours our mantra.
You know, every team is a team to beat. Can't
can't look past one. You know, Notre Dame knows about that,
you know what I mean? So yeah, look past that
that one team. Man, you gotta always keep all of them. Well,
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you know, you hit me with Ohio.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
State, so I gotta hit him, I gotta hit him back.
But but and you're hitting me back. But like ten States,
got to worry about a number of teams. Then, you
know what I'm saying, We gotta worry about every team.
I said, every team that you're.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I gotta worry about that little girl that was sitting
in front of me yesterday on my flight. That's what
I gotta worry about. Sure enough made it. I'm two
for two. I'm two for two with girls and flights.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're saying her her mom brought the toolbox too.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Huh, yes she did. I mean it's there hammers.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So that baby was loud. I wanted to body slam
that little kid.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And then I saw the mom turned around and picked
something up out of the chair, and I was like, ah,
what a nice baby. I'll tell you what what like
you know, like, you just got to enjoy yourself. Man,
you know you're flying first row. You just got to
enjoy yourself. And then I just put my headphones on.
I had no more issues.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, well, at least she got through safe. Was the
cafe open when you got there at Stay College Airport?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
I got it and had like eleven I don't know,
it's not open. They do not have them type, they
don't carry them type of hours.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So with that being said, I do feel like there's
been a shift in the NFL. Okay, I feel like
players shi a shift. Oh okay, not a shift, yeah no, no,
no shift. I mean, okay, that I know of, But
there is a shift in the NFL, and I feel
like players, all of a sudden are now starting to
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embrace the preseason again.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Tua Tagobai looa.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's not too good for the preseason, right, He's not
one of these guys who dismisses the preseason and says
those games don't count. I don't want any part of that.
Here was the Dolphins quarterback yesterday.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
I'd definitely love to get some preseason snaps.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
In no doubt.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
It's a new season, it's a new year. I got
to get things tuned in with the guys again.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
All of that.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
I don't think I'm better than anyone on this team,
or I think I'm too cool to get reps on,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
During preseason games.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
Now, Like, I don't mind that at all. I would
love that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So you got Tuoa once in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Joe Burrow is now going to be playing in the
preseason because Zach Taylor's trying to come up with a
solution for why they're so awful to start out the
year each season, so he's gonna be participating, like things
are changing.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
They come free on one of them a gap blitzes
the preseason. Oh boys, get hit in the mouth and
get hit in the face, and then all all that
reason and I ain't too good. Yeah, all right, you
won't be standing right on that sideline.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Strap it in preseason.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Strap it out.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's got some value now, all right? People want part
of this.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's always had value. I mean, here's part of what
you hear sometimes in preseason games. You know, we used
to have four. The third one was the one that
teams would actually game plan for, like they would go
through their normal week of preparation, so you'd have your
first down, second hand install, third down, you know, red zone,
two minute, all that stuff, and you would you would
break it down that way and that was your dress
(06:54):
rehearsal game. Fourth one was you want to see a
lot of the backups back into the roster guys play. Well,
what happened a lot of times in that game was
you'd see coaches say, hey, we want our guys to
play on islands, Like we know they can play in
zone coverage, like they can cover space, but we want
to see if they could play on islands. And so
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they wanted to see if they could match up. They
want to see how they, you know, could could handle
some of that. And sometimes they want to see how
they could handle Hey there's this stunt, this blitz package
and all that. You would hear coaches before the game
basically say to one another like, hey, you know, test
this guy out, bring some pressure, like like your your
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coach saying to another team like hey make sure like
I'm being real, like they would want to see and
they'd be like, hey, what do you guys want to see?
And it would be that sort of conversation before space
preseason games so each team could make the proper evaluation.
Now I'm not said that happening in every preseason game,
but it definitely happened in the fourth one for sure,
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and probably some like some mix standing and throughout you know,
first second, they'd see some things from time to time.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Which makes the people that bet on those games even
worse m knowing that there was agreements that were being
made between coaches on that give this guy a little
something to give him a different look.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, that is something.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Q be getting stuff that don't nobody else get. But
you know, all I say is fourth game. You know
you don't you never played like you got like one
one series, but third, third preseason game. That was dress rehearsal.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
For the guys, right, Like you're you're.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Going into the third, third week of or third game,
and I guess it's what, it's only three now, right,
it's not. It's not four, it's only three.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So now it's really the second one if they do
it second game. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
You know, preseason is a little tricky, and it's tricky
from the standpoint of as a as a starter. It's like,
you want to get real game rep feelings, right, so
you can't get the same feeling in a preseason game
that you would get in practice. And I know people
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always talk about it. It's not overstated, it's it's very true.
You cannot replicate a rep in a game versus a practice.
And so when you when you get into those games
and you see a different team, even when you have
those team practices, the intensity level is a lot different.
(09:36):
You know, you feel it those enter team practice or
and you know, like you know, teams come together, you
know at somebody's training camp, they scrimmage, it's different. It's
a different level of energy. But even a game, it's
just it's different having the referees out there, you go
through the whole regiment of what the game represents, the
whole dress rehearsal of what the show.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Is going to be, and you get yeah, it's live,
it's live.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So it just you know, for me, I think that
there there is that idea of getting in there, getting
a feel for what it feels like and getting out
of there before you you know, get banged up. And
and for other guys, you got to make the team.
I mean there's there aren't very many spots, Like people
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would be astonished about how few of positions are open
on a roster for NFL football team, So you got
to get out there and get film.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was going to ask you as that because the
subject came up where Harbaugh was talking about who's going to.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Play, who's not going to play. Trey Lance is going
to get the start.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Other veterans aren't going to get you know, any playing time,
and I just thought to myself, So he's telling you,
all right, here's who the starters are, Like, these are
already locked in, those spots are taken. How many spots
are actually available or to be to be had just
based on preseason action and practice and training camp.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It depends just that team. But it's not many. I
mean it's like, yeah, it's it's like five. I mean
there's there's ultimately about five spots, maybe seven spots they're
looking at to be you know, back up. And really
it's special teams. People oftentimes don't realize the importance of
special teams. You've got most likely three maybe four guys,
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you know, outside of your kicker punter, which there could
be guys battling there, and long snapper potential battle there,
and then you've got like three other core special teams players.
So those guys are like guys who are like a
great gunner on punt who will be incredible at running
downfield and be able to cover down on the ball.
There'll be guys who are on kickoff are you're you know,
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L four R four, you know, as far as where
they are in the mix of you know, kickoff coverage
and there's guys there at least that's how it used
to be before they change the rule. So there's about
three guys there that they're staples, like those are core
special teams players. They're pretty much on every single special
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teams and they're a backup on defense usually or maybe offense.
And then outside of that, it's like there's some backup
positions like how many wide receivers a you're taking, how
many linemen are you taking, how many quarterbacks are you taking.
So that's just on offense, like I would I would
actually say there's probably more decisions that are being made
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for the back end of the roster on offense than defense,
only because it's it's kind of a shoe in for
some of the core special teams guys, like they're gonna
be needed on special teams, but they're also needed on defense.
So if you're a defensive back and you can make
your case for being like a guy who's gonna impact
special teams, you're gonna make the roster. And so that
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is that is more important than I think anyone can
talk about or discuss, And I know we don't talk
about it enough and it feels like we're phasing out
special teams. But this time of year, you talk to
any NFL coach, they'll be like, dude, get out there
on teams, like you do everything you can to make
special teams, and then you will make the roster and
then you'll work your way up from there. You know,
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a lot of players have worked the way up from
a special teams player into you know, a starter in
some degree.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
So a lot that goes into special teams. Man, that
is not for the faint of heart. I'll tell you that.
You see the things that they have to do, and
I mean kickoffs. Kickoffs have been so minimized because the
kickers are knocking them through the uprights, you know, on kickoffs,
so you don't you don't really see the type of
valance that used to exist on kickoffs that you did
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in years years past. But punts are are super important
and they're super valient, valient plays for some of the
guys that are out there. So while they've tried to
kind of manage some of the the valance out of
out of special teams, it is still a tremend this
opportunity for a guy to stay on a roster, to
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to have longevity in the National Football league. There are
some guys you will never know their names, but they'll
be in the league for you know, double digits of years.
I remember Ethan Albright, our our long snapper. Well I
called him big Rid. Now he's a big ginger. He
just snapped. All he did was snap. But he was
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so efficient at snapping for so long that you know,
he had a very very long career, a very successful career,
quietly went about making his money while you see all
of these other guys out here, the few guys that
you know, everybody has the conversations about getting these large
contracts and crazy contracts. You know, there actually really are
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some guys that come in with the hard hat mentality
and get paid a very nice sum of money. Even
though it's not one hundred million dollar contracts. It's it's
real leads like you you know that's true. Well, I
was just gonna say that, what like Matthew Slater. Matthew
Slater played what sixteen years as a special teamer. Yeah,
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and and people have argued like Belichick's like he's one
of the greatest players I've ever coached.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm trying to find out what his career earnings were.
If you guys had to guess. What do you think
Matthew Slater's career earnings were as a special teamer?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Is double digit? Yeah, he probably earned two millions something
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Thirty million dollars, just over thirty million dollars in his career.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That ain't bad.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I mean, like after taxes, that's that's you know.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I'll just say this again, that is not something to
sneeze at when you understand how you have a dollar.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Oh God, you an't one, huh. That timing was unbelievable.
I don't want to I don't know how you said that,
and I sneezed at that very moment. Bless you, Brady,
Bless you Brady. That was bizarre.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Are bless you football? Jesus blesses you, you know, bless
you anyway, Yeah, there you go. Notre Dame, Baby, I
heard Notre Dame like three, four, five, six, seven times yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh Brady Brady.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
People really love you, man, People really love Brady Quinn.
I don't know what it is about good looking quarterbacks
that play out Notre Dame, but you're high on the
list of good looking quarterbacks that people love from Notre Dame.
I mean, I mean I love you, my little bro.
But people love Brady Quinn. I hear about you every.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Time I'm showing you guys. By the way, the photo
of the guy who won our Blue Jacket Golf Outing,
so LaVar, I think I've told you this. We give
out an award. We give out a blue jacket like
a blazer to the guy who looks like he's having
the most fun.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
He's got a hole in his arm, and he's missing
another arm him and he's got.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
His other arms there, but he uh, Josh Phoebus, the
first ever two time winner of the Blue Jacket Golf Outing,
who really showed up and showed out, also needed some stitches,
so he was it was a tremendous performance. Yeah, he
had a pretty good gash, but I'm not exactly sure
how it happened, but he he was able to power
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through and finish the round.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like he's like one of those guys that like one
of those people that survived a serial killer. Like he
got a bunch of other people, but you know, here's
one that survived with with a hole in his arm,
blood all over his shirt, just uh, just wearing it
and proud. The mustache. The mustache, I was about to
go to the mustache. Look, the mustache tells you all
you need to know. He came ready.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He came ready, like he looked like Johnny Ringo, like
bro he does. So my pops typically gives a speech.
He typically gives a speech before we all go well,
we all take a shot of Irish whiskey. And in
this case, we've transitioned over to Josh. As you know,
(18:07):
Josh you know, served in our military and uh loves
the event, loves loves our foundation. So he gives quite.
He gives quite the speech before the golf outing, and
I think he got himself a little too juiced. UF.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, look, I mean there's been, you know, reportedly other
incidents that have taken place there with golf carts and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So oh, yeah, we used to have night golf that ended.
We didn't advertise it, but there was another cart in
the pond. But basically our insurance got dropped for that event,
so we couldn't couldn't do that anymore. Yeah, there's a
lot of wild things going. Jonas came one year LeVar,
which you guys will have to make it out. I
(18:49):
feel like Lee Lee is immediately in contention for winning it.
But Jonas came out one year got pretty blasted. He
just remembers that one specific player who really wanted some spaghetti.
I'll just put it that way. He was really hungry
for some spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, I don't think I was alone, and I
think I know asked somebody. It might have been Pat
or Jake, and I just asked him, like man like,
he's talking about that a lot, like like Gus can't
let that go, like all day, he talked about it
all day.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Really hungry mom, spaghetti got some problems.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, he does have some problems,
that is true.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
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Speaker 4 (19:48):
Hey, what's up everybody?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
It's me three time Pro Bowl of LeVar Harrington and
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Speaker 4 (19:56):
What is up on Game?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
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Speaker 3 (20:29):
So Lead to Laugh is in the lab trying to.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
That's why you were laughing and trying to figure out
how to get that thing out, get all se vanity
off of it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So Kwame Brown took a victory lap on social media
yesterday with the news of not only Gilbert Arenas getting
arrested for the gambling or casino ring that he was
having in a home that he rented or didn't rent,
whatever his story is, and Shannon Sharp the news.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Coming out that he will not be back at ESPN, And.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So Kwame Brown took the social media and unloaded on
both of those news stories.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And so Lee is.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Trying to who will not be back with ESPN?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Shannon Sharp will not be back? Yeah, oh wow, that
also came out yesterday. So I don't know, is there
any surprise to that No, that's what I was going
to say. I don't I don't know why anybody would
have been surprised by that. I mean, it seemed like
that's the way it was going. Like Steven A even
sort of almost distanced himself.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, he distanced himself. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So there's a there's a lot going on. Hopefully Lee
will be able to uh to put that together. Now,
what do you guys think the chances are that Lee's
able to do this in this amount of time and
have there not be at least one offensive word get
through the audio.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's why I don't think it's going to happen. So, no,
not gonna happen.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
I'm gonna say he can do He's really good, like
he is good at editing like they're they're so and
and he's also good at leaving just enough to where
you're like, ooh, that almost completely came through there, to
where some people would just take out the entire sentence
to avoid any issues.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Lee'll let some stuff slide. So we'll see whether or not.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Lee de Lapp will we'll have that figured out and
sort it out for us here coming up coming up momentarily.
So there's that there's also Trey Hendrickson. Trey Hendrickson and
the Cincinnati Bengals is the way Lisle has given me instruction.
All right, we don't want to get into the Trey
Hendrickson stuff. Lee is getting confident here. It looks like
(22:42):
we are moments away from seeing whether or not Lee
has masterfully put in Kwame Brown, who was on social media, which,
by the way, I think Kwame Brown. The name of
his stream is the buzz Life.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, it's like KBB a Kwame Brown bus Life.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's just you're talking about somebody who popped up a
couple of years ago and just made his presence felt,
and it was just like, Okay, I've sat back, I've
heard all the jokes, I've heard everybody make claims about me,
and I'm just gonna start unloading, and I'm going to
do it on my terms and get even.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I know Whitlock's a big fan of Kwame Brown all
of a sudden, all right, so we do have Kwame Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
All right, So let's see whether or not Lee was
able to pieces together. Lee, was this one of your
more difficult editing jobs that you've done in recent memory?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Well, yeah, it's a memorable one. It's definitely up there
for having to turn around and short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Lee, what confidence do you have that you got every
single thing that shouldn't make it on air.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty like.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Percentage like eighty ninety ten.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
I'm ninety five percent sure that everything is there.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
All right, let's go leave, all right? So here we
job buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Here is Kwame Brown celebrating the dismissal of Shannon Sharp
at ESPN, and also Gilbertorita is getting arrested.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
And I told people one thing.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
I said, this is a stupid he gonna self sabotage.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
He's a dummy. Let me close this dough.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
It's like my birthday, Shannon Sharp, your thick tongue AD
five Gil, You and the slammer you got there if
you run your mouth, see you facing about fifteen years
five years on each shard. Right, But your dumb ass
were playing cards with the really mob.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
So now you're gonna have to make a decision.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
You can't snitch because your dumb ass say, you know, chill, Gil.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So you can't chill. So you gotta you gotta fight
this one out. You gotta go for what you know.
So listen here.
Speaker 12 (24:52):
We know you can't snitch, so you're gonna be sold
for the next fifteen years. Oh no, all that you
were talking, you was a dumb ass veteran and you
swagging career. Now you don't swagging P's second career.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So dang well, they'd be coming for Kwame though, man
and Kwame be getting it off his chair.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I know Kwame.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I spent a lot of time around Kwame when we
were in DC, and he's a real good dude.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I banged with Kwame.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Like as a person, I think he's a real like
from my experiences, Super always was a humble dude, like
real quiet, unassuming type dude. Just a good, kind hearted dude.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
And I don't know why this became a thing, like
the whole like when the whole bust narrative became so
prevalent on him in DC. It's like certain people wouldn't
leave him alone. And I guess, I guess people found
out the hard way. He got a lot to say.
I mean, now, y'all, didn't you know when I say
(26:01):
y'all the people who was doing that to him? Now
he's you know, he's come out of his shell and
he's saying what he feels about it. And I mean
whether you like the the delivery or the words that
he uses and doing so he says how he speaks
is he speaks his mind.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Say about Shannon Sharp again?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Can we play that old big thick tongue? Is that
what he said?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
He's just starting the beginning with you.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
And I told people one thing. I said, this is stupid.
He don't self sabotage. He's a dummy. The do It's
like my birthday, Shannon Sharp five.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
That ain't right.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
People ain't right for taking shots at at at Shannon's
thick tongue gas either, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Like that ain't right man. It's a lot of people
make fun of him, Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
What is happening?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Man? Youngloaded on them?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey rabbits got the gun?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
You know he ain't really say it nothing though, But
I mean, but that is some classic key key talking trash.
I mean, that is dancing over people's few you know,
they're they're graves.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I mean that definitely would be was considered.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh my god, that's just literally nobody safe, nobody safe man.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Why is why is why is media beef? Why is
it so prominent and prevalent. It seems like everyone is
like every time you turn around, somebody is beefing with
somebody in media, like Cam beefing with with uh with Ryan.
Ryan Clark is always, by the way, connected to somebody's
(27:58):
media beef. He goes in and then he apologizes, and
then it turned into a whole nother thing.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I don't know or I don't know RC. I don't
know how that works.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
But then Cam is coming out, and then the dude
from the what is it a million dollars a game?
I can't I'm trying to remember his name. Why am
I blanking on? His name's Gilly? Gilly? Like guys are
like straight media beefing out here. Steven A has been
a part of media beef.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think a lot of them are choreographed.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I just you think so.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I just think a lot of them are bs. It's
just to try and get publicity for the show. It's
like it seems like a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
They're like texting on the side shone like playing all this.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The longer you do this, the more you realize there's
a large majority of it that's like pro wrestling just
is what it is. Not this show this show is real.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I think we tried. We don't try to media beef
with anybody.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I don't care enough to try to media beef with
with somebody, Like what I'm gonna come at you for?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
What does it matter? Well, it's to me. It's like
a microcosm of our society. Like people didn't used to
beef back and then they just duke it out. They're like, oh,
that's how you feel about me. Let's go yeah, he imai,
put your put your dukes up here. Now I want
to say that. Flip it for real, flip And now
(29:24):
we've got where it's like, No, I'm gonna say mean
things about you on my podcast, and then you can
say mean things about me on your podcast, and then
I'll send some tweets out and do some like I
g lives. That's what I'm gonna do that. That's what
a real tough guy does. Now, it's just I don't know,
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
It's weird that grown ass men is they're out here
doing that, Like, well, you can make.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
The case like it's not you're not really grown ass.
If that's what you're to go into, well you ain't
standing in it.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I'll tell you that you ain't standing on ten toes
down and grown ass men business.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'll tell you that, I don't know how people have
time for it. I don't either, I really tell.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, in all seriousness, I don't. There's only so much
time in your day. If you're investing into that, what
does it say about you as a dad? What does
it say about you as a husband or as a person.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm saying that's my thought. I've got one kid. I
can't imagine what you guys go through. I think that's
probably part of the reason why there's no media beefs,
because you realize, oh, that's time I could be spending
with my kids, not on X or Instagram feuding with
somebody because they might have been offended by something I said.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Just a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
The dude, Charleston White went on Gilly and said, well,
you don't have that family time with your kid anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
He did, like bruh, his son got murdered.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Like these dudes be going really really yes, these dudes
be going crazy deep with with the stuff they be
throwing at each other back and forth and this and this.
Like you said the podcasting show World, it's like it's
like sets.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It's like clicks, you know what I mean, Like, I'm
gonna go at this dude.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I thought Ryan Clark and Cam Newton were cool, Like,
weren't they doing a.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Show together on ESPN? I thought I thought Cam got
on with ESPN because RC. Actually, you see these dudes
is out here like that. Make sure there was something
you know, Ryan and cues of something racial. Yeah, it's
usually the go to playbook there for Ryan. Same tell
me I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
That's got to be racist. He lives in that woke space.
That's for certain that he does live in that space.
I mean, I love him, that's that's my home, my
my teammate homie from way back. I just I don't know,
I don't you know, I haven't been around him in years, though,
I don't. People change, things changed, I don't know, you know,
it's it's it's interesting though, but.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Un so Yeah, not too.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I mean my current teammate, you know, and I don't
let nobody talk bad about him. I'm the only one
that talked bad about Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You know what I mean. That's right, that's my big bro.
That's right, it's my big bro.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I could talk trash, but you do it, I'm gonna
pop you and like you said, pop you in your mouth,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Like catch that too for real? Anyway, Lee, what the
hell is going on with you? First off, you've changed
your shirt today. I've seen you grimacing multiple times, grabbing
your side. You stood up, done the hole where you
shake your t shirt out?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
What are you doing? Lee?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You and your thick tongue ass? What are you doing? Lee?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
I ate too much Indian food last night.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
It was too spicy for the lady friend, so I
had to eat two servings and then I ate them
on the way out the door, which probably was better.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
What Ladyfred, my roommate, you know that your your your?
Last time I heard she was in Japan or something
or just left? Yeah she beck? Did you know she
was coming back?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, she went out to Japan for her birthday.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
You know, they need to do a sequel on Along
Came Poly and call it Along Came Lee. You know,
you know the hippo cannot be the leopard or the
zebra because well he the hip.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, happy happy people can Can we break this down?
Like how many people go to Japan for their birthday
that are from the United State.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I don't have a number for you on that. At
least one.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
There was some tossing up to take I mean right,
hen and there is some there is some samurai work
going on there. Yeah, someone said Ohio, oh hi, and
then they said.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And then waxed off from me for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All seriousness. Yes, are we still doing this?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I'm still hurting from the Indian food and that's what
we're asking this. I'm still hurting.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
That was not specifically what I was asking. That was.
Barrett Sanders is like, right there.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Answer the question with your tongue.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Ass.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
I'm still happy at home with with the with my
lady friend.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, you guys haven't sold your plass. No, I'm not
going to.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Marketing there.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Last thing, why the why the shirt change?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
So that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
So I got a nice little package from one of
our listeners this morning. H Jeff Miller out in Wisconsin,
who's a host of a of a podcast called Dead
on the Bases. A sports fan reviews horror movies and
a horror fan reviews sports movies. It's their podcast. Their
tenth season is just kicking underway. So he sent me
some some cool swag.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
He does a podcast about horse, about Horse, about yores, corse,
w hhow.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Or yeah, horror?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (35:04):
How?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Movies, horror sports fan horror movies, and a horror movie
fan review movies.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Hobart shout out to the guys there from a decade, Ak.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Why were you wafting your shirt? Is that because you
were farting and you thought that that was gonna help
it or something?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
No, I'm checking out the field. I was checking out
the stretching. I got two shirts, so you saw me
Jane shirts.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
And what else did you get?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
He knows you?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What else did you get?
Speaker 7 (35:31):
Beer coozies?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Hell yeah, nice beer cozies, T shirts and some coos
and on the basis beer coozies with with the nice
QR code on the back, so get them right to
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, so he doesn't know you know you that well
because you would have STDN alcohol with it if he
knew you that well.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I got to check the bottom of the package here.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
By the way, the Indian food, I don't even get
it during on a work and it makes.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It it was a bad decision.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Eating more on the that was like still out and
about which was gross.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
So we've documented Lorena who gets gifts and packages sent
to her from all She's literally got an entire shaved
ice machine now in the studio. That's somebody said, party
this rup everything. An entire shaved ice machine.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
She'd be trapping the hell out of them on our
social delmay attention to Lorena. Make sure you check out
radio mouth because she will trap the hell out of
your thick tongue ass out there.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
And what the hell are you gonna do with a
shaved ice machine in.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The I don't know.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I'm gonna take it home and I'm gonna make icys
by my pool and I'm gonna eat them in my bikini.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Why wouldn't you do them here?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
On lab though? She drops in in her bikini, and
then people are start hitting on Twitter, what's what's your
hand oil?
Speaker 13 (36:55):
And we're gonna make all different concoctions to write because
we have all the flavors, and I like the kind
that have the creamy stuff in it too, So I'm
going to like the can you do alcohol?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And we know exactly what you're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yes, yes, you get you can put booze in those
can't I.
Speaker 13 (37:11):
Have a Pina Colada flavor, and he said to put
a minute, so thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
One of them is tiger's blood.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Oh wow, how many those you gonna have? Leave with
your thick tongue ass.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I'm gonna have some, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, as.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
The emergency booz.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I'll come by the pool have some
shaved Yeah, pull out the emergency flask.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
By the way, that.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Your roommate be with your thick tongue ass.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
That should be a japan She won't, No, she won't.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
She's going back to Japan.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Lee, She's gonna be on the roof of a building nearby.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Luck in you all, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
She's like who you look at? Boy, he's like his
thick tong ass. Unbelievable. By the way, we didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
They've got shirts, koozies, they've got a shaved ice.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
We got nothing. Zil Man.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh hey, the main attraction may not wrong with it. Uh,
it is two pros and a cup of joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. We don't need any of that
because we got.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Dare you ever see Lorena's pool?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah? Nice pool?
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Oh yes, it's quite lovely.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Right now, we welcome in the one and only Albert Breer,
Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
At the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You can also see his work on Amazon Prime M's
NFL coverage AB. Where are you at currently doing the show?
Speaker 10 (39:09):
Well, first of all, thanks for playing my song there.
I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, I had to Jesus prices are two halt.
Speaker 10 (39:17):
Actually, just as you were saying that, my my second
alarm went off, so I had to shut the alarm.
That's what the pause was there. I'm in San Francisco,
were well, I guess more specifically Santa Clara. So yeah,
I'm feeling like you guys are out there. This five
uh two of us at five fifteen feels a little
different or five twenty or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, I mean it's a damn West Coast super bowls.
Speaker 10 (39:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The super Bowl is going to be there again this year.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
So yeah, no, I I remember coming out for remember
making making my way out there. I think it was
man like, like I was like running clothes or something
one year.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Right Vegas.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
It was in Vegas, Vegas.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Than you had to lead the lap fall too or
or or a slip off because you was bleeding.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
You was a bloody dude with all that time.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I though you were shaving. You used the hotel shaver
and oh that's right.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
Yeah, Like I think I forgot my razor at home,
so then I hadn't had a chance to go like
CBS or whatever yet, so I had the cheap never used,
like the cheap hotel shave. Not a good idea, Albert.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I'm wondering, were you surprised that Trey Hendrickson posted the
uh the picture last week on Instagram of him just
traveling back home to Florida, only to turn around and
come back with no deal in place?
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Yeah? Do you think he drove like both ways because
it looked like the way down like that was taking
him the highway, wasn't it, right?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I wonder people, I wonder.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
People on a plane tickets to go back.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (40:44):
I thought it kind of added to the drama too, right,
like like he was so mad he didn't have time
to to to a range of flights, got in his
car and drove back. You know. Yeah, you know, like
this thing's been so back and forth, and I think
I said to you guys a few times, like so
we predictable with any fb's. And the big part of
it is because you know, there is a personal element
(41:06):
to it, because it's lasted three off seasons, you know,
and that two years ago is really when this started.
And the root of it was really four years ago
when he first time with the Bengals, because that happened
during you know, one of the COVID off seasons where
the cap was down, and so the deals, the deals
that we're going that were that were going out that
(41:27):
off season were depressed. So two years later and he
wants a correction on it, you know, they have a
pretty lengthy negotiation over that. They can't they can't really
do anything substantial, so they do a one year band
aid extension. Then last year he goes back to the table,
gets nothing an hour back here again, and you know,
(41:50):
I think it's a result of a couple of things.
I mean, the first, of course, is the explosion of
the market with head rushers. We're seeing a similar dynamic
at receiver, which I think is contributed to Terry McLaurin
situation in Washington, you know. And then I think there's
just the way the Bengals have always done business and
the fact that they made exceptions for Joe Burrow and
(42:11):
Jamar Chase and then they gave t Higgins a new
deal but didn't make the same exceptions for him, and
you know, does does does he go in the category
with with Chase and Burrow or does he go in
the category with Higgins? You know. Obviously, as AIDS contributes to,
some of the teams were louctant to guarantee money down
the road. So again, to me, it's been the most
(42:34):
complicated of them. I think they're a point now where
the big number, like the average per year, is less
of an issue, and we'll see if they can bridge
the gap of the guarantees. I think that's really where
the problem is now. And I'll look, like, you know,
two weekends ago, it looked like they were going to
get a deal done ahead of him leaving and going
(42:55):
back to Florida, and that Monday things completely fell apart.
So that's sort of example how volatile the whole thing's been.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Albert tell us about just where things are at in
Dallas between Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys. Have we
gotten any update? Are they getting any closer to a deal?
Speaker 10 (43:13):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
It's nowhere.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
But you know, Cee Lamb was nowhere last year, you
know at this time. You know, Dak Prescott, like I
didn't feel like they were close when they opened camp
last summer. So I mean, like that's the thing, Brady
is like we attached so much drama to these things,
you know, and like I don't know, you're talking about
(43:36):
the Instagram post with Trey Hendrickson and and and you know,
like I I think we treat these things that their
soap operas and like things can't be fixed. They always
can be fixed. I mean, these things can turn around
in a hurry and a lot of times, like what
these things really need is deadlines. And you know, when
(43:57):
a guy shows up to camp, like Michael showed up
to camp, there's less urgency in everybody to get a
deal done. You know, the player is still the players
isn't losing money. You know, the team knows the guy
can play, and those how to get himself ready to play,
even if he's not practicing fully. You know, what you
need is a deadline. And you know, I guess again,
(44:17):
the guy's in camp, so I takes the urgency off
of everything. And so what's the next deadline? Well, the
deadline really is the season, you know, And so you know,
we saw that last year, even with CD holding out
like where it was costing him money. You know, I like,
you need a deadline and and and and the season.
The start of the season gave the Cowboys that deadline
(44:37):
with CD and DAK last year and they got those
things done. And no, it's not a good place right now,
but that doesn't mean it's a reparable. You again, I
think I think that the way these things are covered
sometimes like borderline you're responsible, you know what I mean,
because we've all seen these things turned very fast over
and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Maybe I made the comment the statement earlier about Aaron Rodgers.
It sounds as though he's actually happy for once, and
and that he's talking from he's speaking from more of
a I'm just talking about things and how I feel,
versus defending himself. I mean, his latest quote was him,
(45:20):
you know, defending Mike Tomlin and of sorts. But it
just seems as though he has like a happiness about him.
I mean, how do you see I said this could
be a dangerous thing because a happy Aaron Rodgers could
be you know, a positive thing for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
How how you know, how has it been going for
him and his interactions seems like he's been well received.
Speaker 10 (45:42):
Yeah, I mean, LeVar feels a little bit like the
way that the world's off his shoulders maybe right that way,
do you I mean, it sounds like it, Yeah, And
I think that's a result of going to a place
where they're just asking to go play quarterback, you know.
You know, it's the last couple of years in Great
mean they obviously things were strained and there was a
lot going on there, and you know, I think everybody
(46:05):
felt the way to that, you know, and then he
gets to the Jets and you know, the Jets had
the longest playoffs playoffs for out in the NFL, and
you know, you had this group of talented young players.
A lot of those guys are still there, and you know,
it was on it was on the errand to kind
of like lift the boat, you know what I mean,
and lift all boats and be the guy who's going
(46:27):
to come in and show everybody how to win and
be the guy who changes the face of the organization,
you know, and he's got to be asked to do
any of that.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 10 (46:37):
Just come in and play quarterback. You know, there are
a bunch of veterans who don't need to be taught
what to do there. You know, like you've got Jalen
Ramsey and TJ. Watt and Darius Slay and Cam Hayward
and DK Metcalf. You know, it's you know, I think
for him, you know, this was part of why he
signed in Pittsburgh. You know, if you got to the Giants,
(46:57):
I think there were have been a little bit of
a similar time as it was with the Jets, where
it was like, you have some talented young guys here, Dexter, Lawrence, Malik, Neighbors,
Andrew Thomas, you know, Brian Burns, Keevon Thibodeaux. But these
guys have never won, you know, and these guys have
never done it in the NFL that these guys have
never the great majority have never been to the playoffs before.
(47:20):
That's not what you're dealing with in Pittsburgh. You know,
Pittsburgh's only to a place it's got super Bowl winning
head coach, an established culture in the place for decades,
and a bunch of guys who've been around, and you know,
he can just go in there and play football. I
remember having a conversation with him last summer about, you know,
what he was trying to do, and how he'd spent
so much time and energy trying to prove to everybody
(47:41):
that he was more than a football player. He really
wanted to just appreciate playing football, and I think that's
sort of his mindset now. It's like like, this is
this is the opportunity for me to just go out
and focus on playing quarterback. I don't need to fix everything,
and I think you can see that in the way
that he's approaching all of it.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Albert Bridge ruinning us here on Fox Sports Radio, AB.
I know you were at Bears camp and there's been
mixed reviews about how everything looks there, and I'm just
surprised that people are surprised that the hiring of Ben
Johnson wasn't immediately going to solve all their issues. They
were a bad team. They've been a bad organization for
a while. Like, why why is there the feeling that, well,
(48:23):
you hired Ben Johnson, he was the guy to get
that should solve everything when it feels like they've got
more than just stuff to figure out when it comes
to their young quarterback.
Speaker 10 (48:33):
Yeah, I think I think part of it is, you know,
maybe people thought, like you turn on the TV, you
see the Lions, and it looks so pretty, you know
what I mean. On the offense. There's so much aesthetically
that you love, you know, watching the Detroit offense the
last couple of years, and maybe there's a little bit
of a thought that you know, oh well, you know,
(48:55):
you just snap your fingers and that's where it is.
And no one members because nobody was following their training
camps way like what it took to get there, you know,
like and what it took for the Lions to become
what they what they wound up being the last couple
of years on offense, so because nobody was tracking it
like that, you know, and they had a veteran quarterback,
(49:16):
so you know, I was there a little over a
week ago now, I think maybe about a week ago,
and it looked it didn't look good, you know, and
and and Kayla looked scattered, shating a little all over
the place and just talking to the guys they have
been included, Like, you know, part of it is they're
(49:39):
trying to feed everyone through a fire hose to see
what they can handle, because there is a lot in
the offenseil it goes into it and you know, there
they're going through this process of trying to again like
put in everything and force feed everything, and then as
they get closer to the season, the plane is just
to narrow it down to a can do and what
(50:00):
the other ten guys in the huddle can do. And so,
you know, I just think this is sort of Ben's
way of coaching, and you know, I think because of that,
you shouldn't be judging him on on what this looks
like in July and August. I mean, really, this is
about what it's going to look like in October November.
So because of the complexity of the offense, it's just
(50:23):
a certain way that they're teaching it, in a certain
way that they're installing it. And you know, I think
it's it's it's it's going to look different as they
get a better handle on what everybody else can digest
and do out there on the field.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Hey, Albert we were talking about the Tennessee Titans earlier
and just some comments that cam Ward made where they're
at offensively feeling mid or however he put it. But
we were talking about just the timeline for Brian Callahan
there's head coach. I mean, is this one of those
seasons where there's not high expectations they're going to be
starting a rookie quarterback? The two quarterbacks behind him now
(51:01):
with the Will levison'sury only have fifteen com mine start.
So if anything happens to cam Ward, there's probably not
much faith in what's behind him anyway, And Brandon Allen
or the other quarterbacks name escapes me. Could this be
like after this year that Titans are looking at a different
direction at head coach?
Speaker 10 (51:20):
Well, I mean, I guess anytime you bring in you know,
a new group in the front office, and they do
have a new general manager at Mike Boorganzi and assistant
GM and Dave Ziggel, and they've sort of slipped a
lot of the organization upside down. I suppose your radar's
got to be up for that. But I don't think
(51:40):
there's going to be about winning nine or ten or
eleven games or being in the in the race of
the playoffs. To me, because the Titans are going through
such a massive rebuild, it's it's going to be I think,
you know about a feel for where they are organizationally
coming out of this year. And I think what you're
looking for if you're the Titans is you know, do
(52:01):
we have you know, a group of young players coming
out us here that we feel like we can build
around and as the quarterback ascending and again, like I
think this comes down to like to me, like I
you know, I sort of like think you know what
you're talking about here. Brady is like a little bit
like a little bit like we just talked about with Chicago,
it's you know, cam coming from the offenses that he
(52:22):
played in in college. There's an adjustment. And you know,
I talked to some of the coaches about this in
the spring where it's like he knows a lot of football,
but he has to learn how to put that football
into words because so much of what he was doing
in college, like you know, there was some handholding that
went on with the coaches, and that's not his fault.
(52:43):
It's just the way college offenses work. So there was
an adjustment the way that there was that there's been
an adjustment with a lot of coaches or a lot
of quarterbacks coming from college, and so Cam had to
put in extra work and you know, do that early
in the morning with some of his young teammates to
get caught up. So I'm sure for him, for Cam specifically,
(53:04):
you know, like he's still kind of going through that
some of those growing pains, and I'm sure he's feeling that,
you know, so it's like it doesn't feel quite natural yet.
I think it's what Cam's getting at. The goal for him,
I think it's going to be to get to that
point where he's a lot more comfortable. We'll get to
November December translate to that that's the field. And again,
like if that's like a six win team that looks
(53:27):
like it's just sending at the top at the end
of the year, and you know, say Cam puts together,
you know, free, really solid performances in the last four
or five weeks, then I think you'll be where you
need to be really quick.
Speaker 6 (53:39):
Ab the owner of the Cleveland Browns, comes out and
basically says he had zero to do with Shador Sanders
being drafted. What what's your what's your take on it.
Speaker 10 (53:54):
Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I do think
he was I do believe the Browns when they say
schedule or where they had him graded was like in
a place where he was kind of sitting there on
the top of the board when they got to the
fifth round, sort of screaming at them, you know. But
(54:17):
you know, I like I do. I also understood the
flip side of it, which is like you took a
quarterback in the third round. This was your your last tack.
You know, you didn't have a pick after that. They
didn't have any six rounders or seven rounders after that
after trading up. So there is there is a piece
that works like that team had a lot of needs
and he used a piece of capital on a position
(54:40):
where they already had three players they'd invested in. So
do I think Jimmy's involvement with zero No, because you
know they met with Jimmy. I believed the morning of
you know, I talked about the plan in the morning
of date three and talked about the plan. But do
I think like Jimmy was pulling the card. I don't
(55:02):
think Jimmy was pulling the card. I do think he's
being forced right about that.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
So I think you feel like he was distancing himself
from the Sanders.
Speaker 10 (55:11):
And I talk to people saying that. I understand people
thinking that, you know what I mean, because I look like,
you know, Shador has been behind relations to the time
he got there, and he's trying to catch up, you know,
And I think he's worked hard to catch up. He
was way behind the other three quarterbacks when he got there,
and he's still behind him. I don't think it was
(55:31):
distancing himself from the pick and but I understand why
people would put two and two together on that. I
think it was more like he didn't want people to
think he was meddling, and he wanted to make sure
that people know that, you know, his general manager has
the power to make those decisions. I think that's what
it was, more than anything to do with distancing yourself
on the peck, Abe.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
We appreciated thanks for waking up early with us and
niners camp Abe.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
I got one more question, how have you ever heard
anyone call anyone else or I guess called him out
for having a thick tongue ass? Have you ever heard
that thick ass tongue familiar?
Speaker 10 (56:10):
I'm not familiar with do you know, I'm not not
familiar what it was that was that part of the
song and the rejoin.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
There No, no, do you want to?
Speaker 9 (56:19):
He?
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Do you want to? He is Kwame Brown who seems to
be very excited about Gilbert Arenas who recently got arrested
and dit whatever whatever happened. He's not he's got you know,
he his bond now so he's out. But this is
Kwame Brown talking about Gilbert Arenas and apparently Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 12 (56:37):
And I told people one thing, I said, this is
a stupid you don't self sabotage.
Speaker 8 (56:44):
He's a dummy.
Speaker 12 (56:45):
Let me close this do it's like my birthday, Shannon Sharp,
your tongue by you in the slammer you got there
if you run your mouth?
Speaker 3 (56:57):
So aby is that part of the vernacular? And you
in Columbus when you go back? Or how does that like?
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
You haven't found yourself thinking that way about somebody.
Speaker 10 (57:08):
I'll try. I'll try. I'll accuse someone on one of
my text just having a sick time of being a
sick time, and I'll report back and I'll tell you
what kind of respond.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
You got a screenshot it and send it over though.
Speaker 10 (57:21):
You got it, I got one, AB.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 10 (57:31):
Thanks guys, have a good one.
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