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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Airings rating Win and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Here's the good news. The Browns have signed another quarterback.
So congratulations, Snoop Puntley. You you're now into the quarterback
room of the Cleveland Browns because apparently hamstrings are are
an issue there in Cleveland. Kenny Pickett's got a hammy.
Dylan Gabriel's got a handy too.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Is that the he does?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So you know the Browns who started off training camp
with eleven thirty eight quarterbacks are dropping like flies.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Snoop Puntley is in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And then you got shid Or Sanders talking yesterday about
not wanting his dad at training camp. Doesn't want the
distraction and had this to.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Say, I don't want him coming to see me right
now because I want to get to where I want
to go in for him to see me.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
You know, get a couple of reptions. You know he's
hearing like a good dad, like, nah, you can't be
proud of me right now. I got to get to
where I'm going, and I know it's a lot I
got to do to get there. So it's kind of
like I just want everything that I'm doing is just
like focus on this time, and I don't want to
know distraction because we know out the media, we know
how everybody would take it and take away from the
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team just from him being my own dad showing up,
So you know, it's a gift in occurrence.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
At the same time, so there was shot or talking about,
you know, potentially Dion being a camp. I mean, if
he just plays his cards right and just stays there
with the way they're dropping out in Cleveland, he's going
to get some et pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean said he's got to have to start, whether
he wants to, whether he's he's ready, he's going to
have to start at this rate. I mean, you've got
Joe Flacca who's vastly approaching forty I think it's what
thirty nine, and then you've got Kenny Picket, Dylan Gabriel Hamstrings.
The problem is he's dealing with a shoulder shoulder sworduce
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or fatigue, which is one of the reasons why they
signed Snoop Huntley. So he's a part of the equation
as to why they've signed someone else. Too, just to
have a camp arm. And obviously Snuphuntley who's been there recently,
he knows the system, he's you know, played and this
is the sort of move you make as an organization
where if you're going to go into the season and
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let's just say again, I look, Flacco is number one
in the depth chart. I've said Flacco all along Picket.
They'll probably, I would say, they'll either release to allow
him to go have a chance to go somewhere else,
or they could keep him as a backup. But I
don't think they're gonna get rid rid of either of
the draft picks. You bring in Huntley now because it
gives him a refresher on the offense and that way
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in case of anything that goes wrong dur in the
course of the season. With Flacco, you have a veteran
guy who started games, who's played in the league, who's
been in the league a while. He is a pro bowler,
a former pro bowler that knows the system. So that's
more of the thought behind it.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
It's a red flag, bottom line, it's a red flag. Listen,
you're gonna you're you're most likely going to deal with
injuries during training camp, but you have five quarterbacks. One
isn't active, but yet he's still a quarterback. So you
got five.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
He's not on the rock, he's.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
There, he's there. I'm just counting it. I'm just counting
how many you know, the thousands that that Jonas is
throwing out there, like you do have Deshaun Watson there.
I mean, even though it doesn't play a part and in
who's going to start and what does But he's not
on the roster. But you're not talking we're not talking
about an established guy for one. We're not talking about
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figuring out, rounding out what what the backup is. They
literally do not have a quarterback. That's That's what that
says to me. You're you're you're in training camp, and
you literally do not.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Have a quota that start the whole time.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I don't I don't feel as though if that's if
that's what you have, Flaco emerges as your starter. I
was thinking that they wanted Picket to be the starter
and they wanted Flacco to be the insurance policy. If
that's not the case, I mean, there's conflicting conversations about it.
Some say Flacco, some say Picket. I don't know, I thought,
I said, I mean not that that has been a
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conversation that I've read and have heard in conversation that
Picket was No, it was more, it was a more
co it was a more coherent conversation, and and it
was actually and it was actually I think I've I
believe I've read it, like I believe that I've read
that they're looking at Pickett as because he's more mobile
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than flaccoh He's the more mobile quarterback out of the
quarterbacks outside of Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So that's what I heard, That's what I thought.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
The fact that Flacco is your starter, which I believe
Flacco has the experience and has had the success to
be the starter, but nonetheless he's a journeyman at this point,
and you're going into a season with a journeyman that's
aging as your starter. You don't know what the health
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is of what you're projected, either starter or backup is.
You don't know what you're getting from your two draft picks.
I just I think it's a red flag. I think
not having an established quarterback that is either on the
trajectory of being a franchise guy or is a Franchise guy,
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I think it's a red flag.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You cannot win. To me, you cannot win in this.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
League unless you have an established quarterback that's doing one
of those two, either on the way to being ones
or already being unestablished.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Franchise guy said, well, okay, but that being said, he
did win four or five games to finish the season
twenty twenty three and help him get in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Yeah, I just again, that's it's great to have a
nice story. It's great to have a nice story. It's
because it's Cleveland. He doesn't want to give anything.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It could be.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
That could be very well, the conclusion that I've come
to that is Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, that is very true.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I get that you could have just said that, you
could have led with that.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
You know, there there are some tremendous there are there
are some tremendous concerns about what's going to take place
with with this team because it's Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, but Gabriel is not going to play in the
preseason game coming up against Carolina on Friday, and I
don't know the status of Kenny Pickett. Flacco's probably not
going to play that much, which means or is probably
going to get as Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Brady just but Brady just said it.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
They were resting Chador because of his shoulder, but they
were resting him.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
He practiced yesterday, but it's it's still been an issue.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
They've been resting.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But to Jonas's point, there is a reality of if
Piggotting and Gabriel not going to play, you know, you
need literally someone to go in there run some plays
just to get through the preseason games. I mean, that's
where we're at right now. You've got teams who are
making roster decisions to get through the preseason.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
That's not a good sign if it's real flag. But
here's here's a I guess maybe a silver lining. If
it is an opportunity for Chador to do it, you
better forget about that shoulder fatigue and you better get
your You better get it on out there, and you
better get after it. Get it out of the mud,
like we all said, get out of getting is good.
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You got an opportunity because of circumstances. Circumstance it presents opportunity.
Preparation is is the way you take take advantage of opportunity.
I'm getting out there and I'm going will and I'm
going deal if I'm Shador Sanders, I don't care. I
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don't care. I don't give a damn what. I'm going
to be out there and I'm going to be balling.
If that's the situation that I'm in, you gotta get
after it and you and you apply that pressure.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You get out there and you play well. You show
the fans, you show.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
The media, you show the world that you can do
what it is that people said you could do.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Coming into the draft.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Then now the draft story pops, It's going to keep
popping back up as long as he makes it relevant.
If he does things that are significant, then the conversation
of why did he go so late, why was his
fall so far? It becomes a bigger conversation, and it
goes in his favor of how the conversations will ensue
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in terms of if he can start for this team
or not. But you don't take advantage of this opportunity.
I don't see there really being any other ways that
he can maybe prove that he should have an opportunity
to possibly get that those starting job right, that starting role.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It's a good chance.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I don't think the starting role is really in play here.
I think it's more of just legitimifying himself as a
backup as an option for them. But that's why I
think it's on the table. I think no matter how
things look in the preseason, it's gonna be Flacco going
into it.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It just it just is. So.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I just think because it's such an up in the
air position right now for their team, whether they start
out with Flacco or any other, I think.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
They're pretty set up like it was gonna start.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't trust it. I don't trust I understand.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Maybe I understand maybe the decision will be Flacco, but
if even if that's again, I don't care which one
it is, it's not. I just don't feel like it's
a stable deal. I don't feel like it's stable. Anything
could happen, and if it's going to happen, it's going
to happen with a journeyman quarterback and a quarterback that
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hasn't been able to get get fully launched in his
career as a quarterback. A lot of question marks around Pickett,
and for what it's worth, there probably will be a
lot of question marks. That's where Flacco is in his
career on on how much he can do he could
be in and out. Poor play could be an injury.
I don't I don't know. I just don't trust it.
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Pretty well, I don't trust it pretty consistent. I don't
trust you.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I trust it.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
You know. It's kind of funny about from Ohio.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know, it's kind of funny about this whole conversation
is that all of this is going to be irrelevant
because they've got two draft picks in the first round
next year and they're probably taking a quarterback again. So like,
whoever this is, this just feels like a stop gap
year unless Dylan Wayle, unless Gabriel or should or Sanders
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light it up and they go all of a sudden,
we've got a guy Like it just doesn't feel like
long term Flacco, you know, for this year yet obviously
not Kenny Pickett. I mean, who knows he could get
dealt before the season. I mean that you know that
that's a possibility. I just it feels like we're just
going to be back talking about the Browns taking another
quarterback next year after they took you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You have to look the picket situation this way. They
traded for him, so if they were really you know,
if they're going to utilize them or I guess I
just put it this way. He would have had to
get off to a fast start where it became very
apparent he was going to be the guy for them
not to roll with a guy who's been there, who's
won there, who's got a world of experience, has won
a Super Bowl. And if you're Kevin Stefansi at this point,
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you know that's what you're looking for. You just want
to win football games, like you're tired of dealing with
the circus of different quarterbacks. And Flacco will bring a
level of consistency, a level of professionalism that you don't
have to be concerned about with everyone else. It's just
it's such a and especially just doing a game with
him last year and talking to the Colts organization and
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the difference just between Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco and
the level of just this is just how things are run.
You know what to expect, you know what you're going
to get. Now, can Flacco? Could he run and make
the special players? Anthony Richardson could No, But there are
elements to the game on third down, moving the ball
down the field where Shane Styken had a much better
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idea of you know, staying third manageable, being able to
convert on third down, the ball going to where it
needs to go to, the checks and everything else. And
that was a guy who you know, got picked up
last year and was a part of that team just
in one year's time. So again, I kind of go
back to how important it is for a lot of
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these coaches, especially when their head coach is an offensive
mind to head coach. And something that it's hard for
people to understand outside of that is how hard it
is to bring guys up to speed on an offense.
And once you've had a guy who's been in the
system who knows it and can execute it, there's a
huge sense of relief and there's a big time weight
that's taking off the shoulders of the coaching staff when
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they can have a guy who they trust out there
running the system. And right now it's only Flacco, but
you just brought in and sign a guy Huntley who
knows it a little bit too, which helps at least
giving you that again camp arm guy who they could
bring back during the course of the season. But that's
why I keep harping on the fact that there will
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be a significant advantage for Flacco starting. I think it's
already done and he will start because there's nothing that's
going to happen between now outside of injury. There's nothing
that's gonna happen between now and then now on the
start of the season that's going to change. That doesn't
matter what it looks like in the preseason. And by
the way, the Cleveland Browns fan base remembers that cool.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And the season hasn't even started yet. They're cool.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You guys are pretty disrespectful to Joe Flacco talking about
his mobility.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Literally, you guys, I never said that.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You an mark, that's a LeVar Island.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, all right, I.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Mean the guy, right, the guy ran out of his
don Joy trying to scramble and make a play years ago.
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Speaker 4 (14:57):
And it is Depth chart season in the NF.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Was that a big deal, like a big reveal for
you guys like the program back in the day when
the depth chart would.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Come out and everybody get all fired up.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Or is this sort of you kind of already figured
it out with the reps that you get in the
teams and units that you're working with in training, camp
and practice. It's more kind of just from your big
reveal to the media, not not so much the guys
that are out there.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It depends.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
I was going to say, I felt like my most
exciting moments was when I didn't know if I was
going to be a starter or not, not the years
that I knew I was a starter, Like when I
got to college, Like what was that like to even
possibly get on the field no matter what capacity. So
if it was special teams, it was like, dang, like
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look at all the people. There's like there's realities, like
real realities that you have when you play the game.
And if you're fortunate enough to make it to the
next level from playing high school unless you played in
Texas somewhere and you play on one of those big schools.
To come out of a locker room and to have
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the opportunity to go on the field with all of
those people there, that's just it's it's a it's a
life changing experience. So those those practices leading up to
the first time. Hell, I can remember the first practices
leading up to me getting my first start in my
first start in college was against Ohio State, and it's
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interesting coming into the season, I didn't know if I
would be able to get the job. When the job
off of Aaron Gatton, who was ahead of me, and
the first three games.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Of the year we played who was it. We played.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Like Southern Miss or now I wasn't Southern Miss. I
don't remember the games before. I just remember the Pittsburgh
game was the third game and how that went for me,
and then getting getting put on the first team that
following week leading up to going into Big ten was
pretty pretty special, man. So I feel like when you
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don't start and you're you're not knowing you're going to start,
and you're trying to fight for it, I feel like
that's way more intense and way more of an interesting
moment in your time than when you know you're the starter.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Southern Miss bowling green at.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Pit, Yeah, where you go there was Southern Miss Yeah yeah, Okay,
there you go and bowl yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I think it goes without saying if there's no intrigue,
it doesn't make it quite as interesting. You know, you're you're,
you're working on different things at that point. But to me,
I mean that that's what makes it interesting is no
matter how the depth chart, especially in preseason. I mean
it used to be different when we played because you
played four preseason games and so there was a bit
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more time if something were to happen. But for the
most part, the depth chart was the depth chart in
part because of what you're getting paid to, Like that's consideration.
When you look at the Browns, for example, and you
look at the financial commitment they've made to all four
of those guys, Flacco is going to be getting paid
the lion's share of where they're allocating, you know, their
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salary cap to the quarterback position. This year, I think
Pickett's making a little over two million on you know,
the deal that he's under, and then you've got a
third round of fifth round pick. So none of those
guys are making a substantial money, at least non comparison
to Flacco, who I believe is making close to eight, nine, ten,
whatever it was. So there's there's a economics to it too.
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At the NFL level that plays a factor, and quite honestly,
it's at college now too. You know, when a kid
transfers in, and even though we don't have transparency because
we can't see, you know, what these kids are making,
we hear sometimes what they're making, and you know, some
of that's inflated just to make the school look like
they're really shelling out the big bucks. But the reality
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is that kid's probably going to be starting right, you
could say, as a quarterback competition, there's this there's that
there's a reason why they brought that kid in. They
brought him in because the coach doesn't want to deal
with an unproven, younger guy playing at the college level.
That's just the reality of it, because they don't want
to have to go through the growing pains, especially if
they're a blue blood program that has made the playoff
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or is expected to make the playoff. They don't want
to take a step back and then don't have to
worry about going through the growing pains of figuring out
whether or not a guy can do it. Now. Look
as someone who started as a true freshman, you know,
played in every game, and I remember that first game
We're playing Washington State as a top twenty five team
my freshman year, I wasn't even fully aware that I had,
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you know, won the backup job until a day or
two before the game. You know, it wasn't overly evident
or clear to me. I didn't think that i'd played
that well enough in training camp my freshman year to
be the guy. But you know, beat out one guy
he ended up transferring, had another guy there who was
a you know, upperclassman who had played, and you know,
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they end up you know, putting me as the backup
and so I thought, okay, like that's obviously an indication
of how they feel about me. But now it just
comes down to what I can do once I get
on the field. So yeah, I mean it goes about
saying if there's here the start, I mean, you don't
care about a depth chart at that point, you know,
But it really does come down to to me, the
money to all of it. Like, especially in professional sports,
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they're gonna give the guy who they've invested the most,
paid the most into that first crack, that first shot
at it, and then after that you're kind of wait
and see.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, in Indianapolis, we've got co QB one's Anthony Richardson
and Daniel Jones both listed as QB one, So you
got to pick your guy.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You got to pick your fighter. Who you going with?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Daniel Jones is your starter to kick off the year
or Anthony Richardson. If it is about the money invested,
there's a high draft pick investment there, I'll.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Roll with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You guys gonna have fun with Anton Anthony Richardson if
you'd like, I'll take Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's a really tough situation to be in if you're
Chris Ballard and Shane Stikeen. For this reason, this is
the guy you drafted, like, this is the guy you
took in the first round. He's going into year three
and you know they still after they after this year,
have to make a decision on his fifth year option.
So as it currently stands, you know, there he's guaranteed
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to make thirty three almost basically thirty four million dollars
in this four year deal. So when you look at
the investment, they've invested that fourth overall pick and a
lot of money into him. However, you know, has that
come to an end because of the lack of I
don't know if you want to call it maturity, the
lack of performance consistency, you know, lack of being up
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is just be durable enough to stay on the field.
All those things that become an issue. What's interesting the
most to me though, is the ownership changed with Jim
Orse passing away, and even though it stays within the family,
he's not the one they're calling shots now. You know,
his daughter's taken over and that group's going to have
to make a decision on a GM who they have
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not had any success winning the division since he got there,
and a head coach who I think is a bright
offensive mind but has been hamstrung by you know, the
quarterback situation. So this is one of the more complicated
QB decisions. And I think if you're Shansichin, like your
big concern is how do you keep the entire team
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cohesive and not allowed the locker room to get divided
if there's any divide whatsoever. I mean, it felt like
being there at the end of last year, there wasn't
so much division because of what Anthony Richardson did earlier
in the year. Like guys like Anthon Richardson, but there's
a lot of older guys who are on that team
who played and they're saying themselves, Man, you can't tap
out of a play, you know, like you just you
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can't do that. And I think there was a learning
curve there for Anthony Richardson. I think he's learned from that.
But that's what prompt bringing a guy like Daniel Jones
in because they still see upside, the SeeAbility, you know,
Shane Steckin sees his attributes able to fit into this
offense in a really, really big way. So I'm going
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to lead towards Anthony Richardson getting the first shot, but
I think there's a chance that that rugg gets ripped
from out underneath him very fast.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, I mean we don't really know what Anthony Richardson
is going to be as a pro player just yet.
I think we know we have a strong idea of
what we think it could be and what maybe it
is with Daniel Jones. So if I'm the Colts, I
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definitely want to see unless unless Anthony Richardson has done
something in training camp and leading up to training camp
and in the OTAs in the mini camp that would
say his his play is in such question to the
to the coaching staff that we're going to go with
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Daniel Jones. I just don't think you make the decision
to go with Jones knowing what you saw him come from.
You know, I listen, he's a pretty decent quarterback. He's
had pretty decent moments as a quarterback. But I don't
think anyone would would say that, Wow, I feel like
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I've changed the trajectory of my team by adding Daniel
Jones as our starting quarterback or as our quarterback. So
I don't know that he moves the needle. I would say,
I lean on the side he doesn't really move the needle.
But does Anthony Richardson move the needle? He hasn't proven
that he he doesn't. He just hasn't proven that he has.
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So I feel like starting out, you drafted him, he's
your guy. Let him play himself out of the position,
you know, because it's not like with Daniel Jones. You're
you're using a guy you know, you feel, you know,
overly confident coming into it that he's going to change
your team that much differently than what Anthony Richardson is
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going to do being there already.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well in the same division the AFC South. Who've got
other depth chart news, this time with the Jacksonville Jaguars,
where Travis Hunter listed as a wide receiver one and
a cornerback two for the Jacksonville Jaguars. His head coach
Liam Cohene talked about his rookie with The Rich Eisen
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Show yesterday.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
He has taken massive strides, specifically at the receiver position,
of truly playing it right, how to run each route,
how to attack leverage. His ball skills and body control
are extremely natural, so you can't really coach that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What he's been able to.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Learn and getting a ligne assignments fundamentals, techniques, and then
when you go into a scrimmage and he gets one
on one on a choice route, and he's got a
linebacker on him and he can make you miss. Ultimately,
for him, it's really going to come down to, like
offensively and defensively, we've done more offense because that is
where more the development was necessary, right, so much more
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naturally to just go walk out in the field and
play corner like that's what he's done.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He can go do.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
That very similarly. Now there's a lot of checks, there's
a lot of calls, there's a lot of different things
that go to that. But offensively, we felt like there
was a little bit more development that was necessary, and
it's a lot more ball, right, just a lot more
scheme and words and call.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So that was Liam Cohen talking about Travis Hunter's development.
By the way, he also said that he believes that
it's there's a chance that he could win offensive and
defensive Rookie of the Year. I think we're getting a
little ahead of ourselves. But nonetheless, that's the opinion that
the Travis.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Let me throw that back at you guys. Let me
throw it back at you guys, because there was an
argument to me made that his ability to play as
many snaps as he did in college helped him get
the highs Now. I'm not saying that that's why he
wanted I know there's some people who feel that way.
I don't, But do you think that will play a
factor too at the NFL level? Because it was so
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rare at the college level, people looked at that and said, no,
this is significant. Now you're jumping up to the highest level.
And if he's able to do it at that level,
wouldn't you say he'd kind of get the benefit of
the doubt, where if statistically he's not as close to
some guys, there will be that conversation of yeah, but
he is playing both ways.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yeah, I would say he's going to get the benefit
of the doubt. And again, I think the one thing
that people aren't paying attention to that I'm paying attention
to day one, Like day one I'm paying attention to,
is if he pulls this off and he is listed
on the depth chart as a second or first string
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on offense, a second or first string on defense, there
you go. When we get the contract time, what is
that going to look like. I'm sorry, it's just got
to be. It's gotta be talked about. If he establishes
that he is playing a roster position, on offense and
a roster position on defense. And let's just say he
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gets Rookie of the Year on both sides of the ball.
Let's just say, moving into the future, he's looked at
as an All Pro offensive player and an all Pro
defensive player.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
What do you think they're going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So if the market at that point is forty million
for a wide receiver, forty million for a cornerback, he
should get eighty million.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Know that he gets based upon how many plays he's playing,
based upon the production. But let's just say for the
sake of saying he's elite at both positions.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Talk about bang for your buck, talk.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
About bang free, because I'm I'm not, you gotta do
two contracts?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I mean, how do you not you gotta do two contracts?
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
That's what I'm That's that's the most curiosity I have
towards the Travis Hunder situation outside of can it work?
Can he be a guy that's on the depth chart
that is truly playing, not just spot duty. I'm saying
truly is an option and truly is playing and could
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actually like be a pro bowler and all Pro on
both sides of the ball. How do you how do
you handle that financially coming out of your rookie contract,
because he did I mean going into his rookie contract.
He did the contract as a one way player. But
yet he's gonna play two ways. So you're getting more
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bang for your buck already having him on your your
roster already. So how does that play out? Do you
come back to the table and say, Okay, I've established
that I can be elite on both sides of the ball.
You're gonna pay me for being on both sides of
the ball. What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean, talk to the contract experts, talk to the
insider bredon Quinn Well, I.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Mean, look, he'll get a premium, but he's still got
to do that first. Like this is, you know, three
years down the road conversation.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I just how many more in a game?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
What's the difference in the number of plays between college.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And the NFL? Like, on offensive do.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You probably play, on average in college a higher number.
I'd say each side somewhere seventy plus maybe maybe eighty
depending on the scheme and system, So you probably playing
about thirty forty more snaps a game. NFL is a
little less somewhere in the sixties, so only just because
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of the running clock, which plays a bit more of
a factor there.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
So then if we're looking at you know, he did
it both ways for eleven games. Now it's seventeen. But
if you were in a factor in less number of
plays per game, yeah, maybe it is possible.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's it's definitely possible, and he's going to try to
do it. What never gets factored into this is the
intensity of it. It's the highest level of football you
go and so you know you're playing, you're playing, you know,
not necessarily as many snaps, but the snaps you are
playing are significantly a greater toll in your body. And
he's going up against guys who, you know, when you're
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playing in the Big twelve, you know you're not playing
every single play, And honestly, at that level, he probably
wasn't being targeted quite as much. You know, he probably
wasn't seeing a whole lot of throws his way, with
the exception of a few teams, few players who you know,
they weren't scared of him, or they thought he could
match up, or they want to test him. In the NFL,
he will be tested, right off the bat every single
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time he gets in there, and it's not He's not
going to have as easy releases. You know, there'll be
more guys who want to press and get up on
him and get hands on him before he gets started
running downfield. I mean, if you look at what makes
him so special, he's incredibly elusive with his ability to
get in and out of cuts and routes, and that's
something that he again will still be a work in progress.
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But every team's gonna try to mess with a young
guy and try to knock him off his start, will
mess up the timing, mess up his depth, mess up
his steps. And that's the easiest way to get and
get inside the head of a rookie wide receiver is
you try to get hands on him early and get
physical with him, and now it becomes about a fight
and the emotions get involved in everything else and you
can throw technique and fundamentals out the window. So he's
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going to be challenged because you know, naturally he's that
hyped up and for a good reason. But how he
handles that over the course of this next season will
give you a better indication of the hypothetical of like,
will he be paid as a guy who's a two
way player, And you also have to ask yourself, if
here's the organization, you may say, yeah, he's gonna take
U two roster spots, so we love this, But then
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you also have to have the insurance pulse of two
guys who are ready to come in if he gets hurt.
And the other thing you get that ask yourself is
does this takeaway from the longevity of his career? I mean, LaVar,
you've played with some guys like E Green, he played
for a long time and can play in the secondary,
and there's wide receivers who could play a long time.
Now when you're doing both, like, is this a deal
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where you watch him play for eight years? And then
that's kind of it because it took such a toll
on his body and trying to play dominate snaps both ways.
The physicality to it that he's not able to play
as long as he'd like to play. So instead of
being a guy at thirty who's trying to get to
that you know, last big contract, it's more of a
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I'm just trying to get whatever I can or decide
even if I want to play at this point, Yeah,
Like those are all things again conversations for down the road.
But I'm rooting for him. I hope he can do it.
I'd love to see him building. I think he's talented
enough to do it.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
If that dude got both Rookies of the Year for
both SATs of the ball, that would be some uncharted
territory ever in the history of the game.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
And how do you look at it? I'm just stuck
on that. I'm just stuck.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
How how do you view this kid is actually able
to pull this off at the league league level? How
do you how do you handle it? I'm gonna be curious.
It's going to be exciting to see if he pulls
it off. But I was telling we were having a
conversation on Saturday, and I was asking TJ and Plex
because their receivers, you know, how does that how does
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that all play out? And you know, TJ was like, well,
they're they're only going to play zone. You know, they'll
probably play zone a lot more than they play man
when he's on defense, and da da da this, And
I was like, well, if I'm looking at it from
a perspective of getting a competitive edge, if I see
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that they're playing Travis Hunter both ways on on on defense,
Like as if I'm calling plays on offense and he's
on defense, if he's in a zone, If he's in
a zone, look, I'm running quick right at him. If
if he's in a man look, I'm running him off.
No matter what, no matter what, no matter where to
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play is going, I'm going after him every single play
to make him work. If he's going both ways, and
that's going to give me a competitive edge. If you're
going to leave him in there, you're either going to
pull him out because we're going to run him and
you got to deal with him doing that on both
sides of the ball, or you're going to leave him
in there. And if you leave him in there, then
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at some point during the game, I believe we get
a competitive advantage. So to me, I don't. I just
feel like it's it sounds good, it makes sense that
he's talented enough to do it, But in reality, these
guys make so much money, they're such great, brilliant minds.
For whatever it's worth at the play calling positions, I
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just don't see how physically and mentally he would be
able to stand up and be a two way player,
a full time two way player, at the league.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Level now said as much. I don't think they Jacksonville's
doing themselves a disservice though, if they're going to sacrifice
their coverages or what they're doing just because he's in
the game, right, Like, you can't do that. I mean
to me, what made what was most interesting is there's
only one ball on offense and only one guy can
get it. So even though he's, you know, first string
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on the wide receiver depth chart, are you going to
put him in there where he's not maybe always the
first read? I mean, you do have Brian Thomas on there,
who is your number one wide receiver as of now.
You know you took Travis Hunter because you need to
be able to have two guys that your quarterback can
rely on throw to. Like you play in the AFC,
You've got to get through the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals,
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like all these teams who have studs can score that
the you know, Baltimore Ravens and Lamar and everything else
they do. So you have to be able to get
through all those teams that can score a high rep
a high pace. So I think the toughest thing for
Liam is how do they prioritize those reps and how
they're using him. Like on defense, you're on defense, you're
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playing that whatever the scheme calls for. Kind of in
that moment. If if you get a DC you're saying, wow,
we can't play man because you know Travis is in there,
it's like, well you probably shouldn't be in there then.
I mean on offense, like I'm just curious to see,
like are they going to use him as a decoy
at times or is it like is a lot of
the offense gonna be built around when he's in there
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trying to get him the ball? Because if if it is,
then it's a sheer tell of what they're doing when
he is in there. So you know, look, Liam cohones
creative offensive mind. That's why he got the head coaching
job in Jacksonville. So that's for him to figure out.
But those are a lot of the things that like
you look for when you know you play in the
NFL and you play against a roster that maybe has
six wide receivers on the active roster, you pay attention
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to is in the game. I mean you look out
there and go, all right, Trenton Erowin's in maybe it's
a run or maybe it's something, but they're probably not
going to go downfield to a shot for him, right
Like you look at the personnel is part of the
clues and hints of how you're gonna try to stop
a team, you know, defensively, and that would be one
where I'm more curious what he is an offense, how
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he's utilized, and if he's going to be in there
on a bunch of run plays or you know, is
this something where like he's going to be a number
one wide receiver and if there's an issue for depth
somewhere then they use him as that backup cornerback as well.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
It's gonna be really fun to watch though either way.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
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Speaker 2 (38:35):
We are going to now have a chat with our
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He's our smooth operator, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports,
CBS Sports HQ analyst and if you want the smoke on,
actually you can get it at Prisco CBS Pee, Good morning,
how are we feeling?
Speaker 9 (38:53):
What's up, guys? How are you?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Hey? Hey Pete, Hey Pete.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Can I start off with a quick question about something
I've been noticing?
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Yeah, go ahead, everyone A.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
CBS Sports seems to have a training camp tour graphic
where it shows where they're going.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Why don't you have one?
Speaker 9 (39:10):
That's a good question. I mean, really, I don't think
that everybody has one, but there are well.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Evan Washburn a d D. I'm trying to think who
else I saw up there, those traveling around. It seems
like they put up a nice graphic for everyone else,
but not one for Pete Prisco. Do they think you're
not gonna be able to make the next stop? Giving
your age?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Like, what's the thought process?
Speaker 9 (39:30):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Wow, wow wow.
Speaker 9 (39:33):
By the way, I'm at one of my stops right
now and getting ready to go to another one, so
I mean I am making the stop. They just maybe
they just don't want to put my ugly mug on
a auto graphic. You know.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh that's not true. They'd love to see that Sicilian
face of yours time.
Speaker 9 (39:46):
By the way, everywhere I go, like when I go
to I've been in Buffalo for a couple of days
or Rochester and man, I'm the tennis guy in the
United States, right, yeah, you really are.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
You Very few come close to you. You my friend
all what you do with that?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You know you were all that.
Speaker 9 (40:05):
By the way, some kid came up to me the
other day and he goes, oh my god, he he
introduced the guy introduced me to me. And he goes,
when I was a kid, I used to see you
on all those top ten things, and I go, wait
to make me feel.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Old kids, Pete, you're just a buffalo, you said, yeah,
as that could be your pick to when the Super
Bowl this year. I know you've been big on the
Josh Allen train and usually after you go to one
of these camps, you come away always talking pretty highly
about teams. I don't do it, Pete, what do you
mean don't do it?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean it's the hard knocks jinks. It's a real thing.
They're not winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
Have you seen their schedule? It's a joke. They if
they open with the Ravens, which is a tough game
to open with, but it's at home on a Sunday night.
You're supposed to win that if they win that they're
going to be seven to zero before they played before
they played the Chiefs at home. And by the way,
they have fixed really tough games and five of them
are at home. I mean, his schedule is they don't
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win fourteen games, thirteen games, it would be amazing to me.
And and by the way, they might they might be
my super Bowl pick again. And and you know when
they might be playing in the super Bowl again. Rating
the team I'm going to see when I leave here today,
what do you know that is? Now?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Oh? You Green Bay two years in a rowpeat. Didn't
you pick him last year?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Yes? And you know what Love hadn't got If Love
hadn't gotten hurt, and had he got a bad call
in Philly on a fumble that they recovered in the
playoff game, they might have won that game too.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
So yeah, you were on the right side of that bet.
You were. You were.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
By the way line is they're they're close, and I
think they're gonna be a better team. I think this
team here in Buffalo is it really has done a
good job of loading up the defensive line. Now, having
said that, they got to keep both in bubble wrap
until December and January. I mean, he's that's when he's
got to be a factor. But they've added a lot
of good pieces to that defensive line. They're going to
be ten, ten, eleven deep when everybody gets back. Now,
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a couple of them on suspend and Oka job is
going to be six games and Michael Hoyt's going to
be six games. But when they come back, you're gonna
have a lot of guys, a lot of bodies go
after the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Pete speaking to the ANFC East, you called it Camp Softy,
where the Dolphins training camp was. We've just broken down
Mike McDaniel talking about death, talking about Tyreek Hill and
being a smart ass. So Tyreek Hill questioning their short
yardage package. What do you make of the Dolphins outlook
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for this year? Because I'm down on him, and the
under seven and a half wins feels like the right
side of that bet.
Speaker 9 (42:36):
Yeah, I'm down on them too. Look, when you try
and change a culture, not who you are and who
his culture was so far has been what he established
and now he's going to try and get tougher on
those guys. It doesn't work. There's no way that works.
And then you look at the roster, and it's not
a great roster. They've had a lot of problems, particularly
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the secondary. Secondary is a mess. The injuries back back there,
but they weren't even star studed before they had the injuries.
So I'm with you. I'd be in that division when
I when I went there, I said they would finish
last in the division. I stand by that, and the
Dolphin fans went nuts, but I stand by it. I
think you look at the Jets. I still have a
lot of talent out fields can do anything. They might
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be decent. But the Patriots are on the rise. I
mean with Drake May quarterback, They're on the They're they're coming,
and Mike Brabe will get them playing tough, physical football.
So I think Miami think you're right. I think Miami
is the last team in that division.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Oh wow, let's go to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
What what's your take take on the current situation playing
out there with with Parsons and and Jerry Jones and
Stephen Jones.
Speaker 9 (43:44):
The media loves it. The media loves it. They run
with it. They get so caught up in these contract
negotiations it's ridiculous. I mean, here's the other day, somebody's
I can't remember who wrote it. They sent it out
that he's threatened to leave the team, and and and
not and and whatever he committed himself from the team
or whatever he said. But you're in the contract. They
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can hold her for two more years as they want to.
You have no say so in the matter. Yeah, you
can be upset. You can be upset about not getting
your contract. And rightfully so, the Cowboys had boxed this,
they could have got him for a keep a price
a year ago. But where's he going. He has no
to say so in the matter. They hold his rights.
And so everybody's like, because he had an agent, calls
every media outlet in America, Hey, this is what we're doing.
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We're gonna do this. He's not gonna fry. He wants
to be traded. It's all negotiation, you know. Everybody shows up,
everybody plays, and the happy guys get a new contract.
You know, it's like here in Buffalo, James Cook, I'm, I'm.
The other day he decides he's not going to practice.
Why aren't you practice in his business? Okay, that's your right,
but what are you looking for? His agent? From what
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I hear, is way off base, you know, if James
Cook is if they're gonna pay him twelve thirteen million
a year and he's scheduled to make five this year,
his agent's doing the service and he's a you know,
the ASA major for Jamar Stewart. And so you look
around the league and you go, Okay, what are these
guys doing. Should Micaeh Parsons be the highest paid defensive
player in the league? Absolutely? Should the Cowboys have done
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it last year? Absolutely? Will it get done? Yes? And
when it all gets done, he'll go over shake Jerry's
hands and everybody will be happy as can be because
the bottom line is they all get done. When Trey
Hendrickson went in last week, did I tell you he'd
eventually go in He's gonna get into the deal?
Speaker 3 (45:28):
You said that, You're like, hey, he's not driving to Florida.
That's just a stock photo.
Speaker 9 (45:34):
They all came in, Brady, they all come in, come in,
they're all happy, they all sign, and then they go
play football. And for the mouth bleeding into it, every
media member that gets caught up in that contract negotiation
talk is just wasting their time.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Okay, So let me ask you this though, what's holding
up Jerry Jones from paying Micah Parsons because it seems
pretty evident he's the best player, a generational talent. Why
not get this done?
Speaker 9 (46:00):
What are you talking about? What are most people talking
about for the last three weeks? Michael Parsons and Dallas Cowboys,
Jerry Jones and Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones and Michael Parson,
Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones. What he loves it? Of
course he loves this. This is great for his Brand's
great for him. When eventually, why do you think Michael
Parsons is hovering around the facility. He's not holding out,
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he's holding in. He's standing around. They'll get a deal
done before the season starts. Michael Parsons will be the
highest paid defensive player in the NFL, and Jerry Jones
will have accomplished everything you wanted to accomplish. Everybody talked
about the Cowboys for five weeks and he still paid them.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
You think that's really what it's about. He just wants
people to talk about him.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
And you want to. You know, Jerry wants to make
it look like he wins. You know, eventually he loses
because he has to pay him. He had to pay
Dak Prescott. You he paid CD Lamb last year. You ultimately,
you have to pay the guys if you're going to
keep them, and if they're gonna keep Michaeh Parsons, they're
gonna pay them.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
So on that note, though, is Dallas a contender or
for tender in your mind?
Speaker 9 (47:03):
I don't know if they're a Super Bowl contender, but
I think they can push the Eagles in the division.
I think they've gotten better on the offensive line. I
think they're more physical, you know, getting the receiver to
you know, getting pickings to go with seedon Maam helps
open up the passing game. Get back Prescott back healthy
is big for them. I like some of the young
backs that they got. You know, Blue has been good
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so far and MafA the running back has also been
good so far. So you have guys, and then you
go to defensive side. They got to be able to
stop the run. That's the first and foremost they have
had problems there. If they can stop the run, I
think that'll be big for him as well. So I yes, Brady,
I think they can push the Eagles in that division.
And if you go back and look at history, just
like Washington, can as well. By the way you go
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back and look at history, it's hard to repeat in
that division. When was the last time they had a
repeat champion in that division. It's been a long time.
So it's going to be a challenge for Dallas to
push the Eagles out of there.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
But they can probably with Philly actually like more recently
than you're saying.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
But I know what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (47:59):
No, it's a it's been a minute. You go look
it up. I think it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Pete Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,
you got to pick your starter in Indianapolis. They're both
listed as QB one's Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Who you got.
Speaker 9 (48:15):
Well, it sounds like Anthony Richardson's had good, good camps
so far, which you know, that's the one thing with
him is he had to be dedicated to the craft,
and he you know early on he was and now
I guess he is. He got to stay on the field,
and so for the better, better organizational standpoint, for the
long run, you'd hope Anthony Richardson would win the job.
If he doesn't, that's a problem because he's probably out.
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So I think they're pushing probably for having Richardson win
the job. But if he doesn't win the job, I
think that ship has sailed for him and Daniel Jones
is just stopgap guy. So I would tend to believe
that Richardson will be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Pete, You're right, it's been a while since two thousand
and four. By the way, however, I did a mistake
think that they wanted recently. They won in twenty twenty
four and twenty twenty two. Talking about the Eagles, twenty
twenty three, the Dallas Cowboys wanted. That's when they had
that horrific performance that in the wildcard route.
Speaker 9 (49:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Dak Prescott let Dak Prescott let
the league touchdown passes that year.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah yeah, it was. It was kind of a forgettable
year for Dallas only because of how it finished.
Speaker 9 (49:23):
But think about that they haven't had a repeat champion
that division since two thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
That's pretty faz That is incredible.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
This parody sounds like, Pete, let's stay on quarterbacks, Let's
go to Cleveland. Seems like maybe injuries could be giving
giving opportunities and who who you know is viewed as
as the guy to take the hamd for for the Browns.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
What what's your take on it?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Do you do you see the door opening up for
one of those rookies that just got drafted.
Speaker 9 (49:54):
No, I don't. I think I know from what you
hear and see Philly Gabriel struggled, Shador Sanders hasn't been
great and working against the backups, He's had some moments.
But no, I don't. Those guys aren't ready to play,
and I don't think they will play. I think their
scenario is they play Flaco, you know, and if one
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of them balls out in the preseason and plays well,
then maybe he's the number two and they do something
with ticket or whatever. But I don't he can't keep
all four. That's that's a given. He can't keep all four.
So if Sanders doesn't get his act gooing and he's
the fourth guy, they have to make a decision do
you keep him or do you keep you know, pick
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it and get let Sanders go. So I think that's
the decision they're gonna have to make. Remember, he's a
fifth round pick. Everybody acts like he was a second
round pick. Oh, he'll be around. No, he's a fifth
round pick. You could easily get rid of him if
you want to. His name was I His name was
John Johnson. He was playing quarterback in the fifth round pick,
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and he's having the kind of camp he had. People
would say, Okay, well, you know, maybe he's a practice
squatter or you know, some team in the CFL has
his rights. Now maybe he goes to CFL. Who knows.
But he act like he was the second or third
fourth round pick.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
He wasn't.
Speaker 9 (51:10):
In fact, he was a rookie quarterback who was picked
ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, I believe Toronto Argonauts have his rights. But Pete,
I want to ask you one more thing we were
talking about earlier about Travis Hunter. He's listed as a
wide receiver one, a cornerback two. I know you're a
fawning over him when you were in Jacksonville being complimented
on your tan, but I do want to ask, is
it possible in your mind for him to be able
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to play both ways? Did you get a sense that
he can do it?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Well?
Speaker 9 (51:40):
That depth chart is misleading because he's going to be
cornerback first and wide receiver second. So but in the
offseason he's been learning the offense because it's been so hard.
You know, it's harder to learn an offense than as
a defense.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
I thought they were working him as a wide receiver first.
Speaker 9 (51:56):
They were. They were because he had to learn the
offense complicated.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
You know, he's listed as a first wide receiver. I
believe in their eleven personnel. I don't know if they
put base personnel, if you'll be the you know, first
one of those top two receivers.
Speaker 9 (52:10):
This is what I was told that he would play
almost every snap on defense and would be almost close
to every snap on offense. But defense was where he
would play. He'd definitely be the starter. That's what I
was told. He's a natural corner and he's been unbelievable
as a corner in camp. Now as a receiver, his
route running isn't great, but boy, Brady's hands are amazing.
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He looks like a veteran. He looks like a veteran
player the way he catches the football. He knows how
to sit down and zones. He's smart. And I asked him,
I said, you know, are you going to play every play?
And he said he is, and he wants to and
they want him to. Now can you do it? I mean,
they told me that he has the endurance, the lungs
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of a marathon runner. And the day I was there,
it was one hundred and one. And you know, I
used to live in Jacksonville. I'm not used to you know,
smart LOGGERI now has a nice breeze and everything, and
Jacksonville just stale air. It was so hot. And he
came over and he sat down with me. I go
hot it up for you. You know that would bet he
was practicing during time off when teams are doing special teams,
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he's over there doing stuff with the defense. The guy's
a machine. The question is does his body hold up
because he's not a big guy, and if you're playing
on both sides of the ball, that's going to be
a challenge for him. But I think he's going to
try to do it. Brady, as amazing as that sounds,
going to try to do it.
Speaker 6 (53:34):
If he makes it through and he is a two
way player, true two way player, what happens when he
does his contract?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
If I'm his agent, there's no question.
Speaker 9 (53:46):
That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (53:47):
Yeah, what happens because to me, that's the biggest thing here.
If he wins both offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year,
he continues to be a two way sensation. What do
you do come contract to Oh wait.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Let's not worry about three years from now. You could
have made that case coming in the league.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
You could have.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Rookie deal before they signed his rookie deal. He should
have been trying to make.
Speaker 9 (54:08):
That case only Rady before before he did that. Then
you could always say, well, we weren'ting to play him
that much. On the other still, LeVar is saying, if
he plays both ways the next three years, then what
he is? Yeah, but here's what you here's you know
what the table do. Well, your body's getting beat down
and we're going to make you a corner only right,
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you know that operates. But but yeah, that's a good question.
I mean because I in an ideal scenario for him
this year, he plays every snap and he plays at
a high level at corner and on offense, he plays
almost all of them. And I you know, I throw
ballpark numbers out there, and I asked, guys, what do
you expect from him? Sixty catches and you know, eight
touchdowns if he does that and plays corner. I mean,
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my god, right, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yeah, so are you Pete? And you can get him
on it. I know, can I say?
Speaker 9 (55:00):
I know most people go, yeah, you know, thanks for
the compliment.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
I say, I know, you try to get that graphic
up for you.
Speaker 6 (55:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
We want to follow where you're going all these different
training camp visits.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
All right, Brady, you.
Speaker 9 (55:12):
Always got to stir the pot. You know that. And
I love what you're talking about them. You're stirring the pot.
That's what you do. I know what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
Good.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Good talking to you, Pete.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
Thanks Pete again next week. All right, there he is
the great Pete Prisco in your NFL.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
I may or may not be on a group text
where Pete's taking a lot of flak for everyone else
getting a training camp to her graphic where they show
where they're headed and Pete's nowhere to be found. I
have no idea why that's the case. There's a lot
of other moving parts to this this group text conversation.
For example, there was one host who was out there
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with Pete at training camp and he declined her request
to take a photo with Pete. I don't know why,
but he would not take a photo at this training
camp visit with the host. So that became a point
of contention to a lot of a lot of people
who are We'll just put it this way. The office
is buzzing there in South Florida or Pete work.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
I love Pete. Always always firing off rounds every week