August 15, 2025 • 48 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jason Fitz & Buck Reising explain the lose-lose that is Shedeur Sanders and the Browns preseason. Alien conspiracy theories and Michael Porter Jr. gives a take on sports gambling. Plus, The AP Top 25 and Arch Manning not making the Manning Award watch list. All that and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
There are certain things I can just say.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I am one hundred percent positive of I am one
hundred percent positive.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That we make too much of preseason football.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm one hundred percent positive that we're obsessed with the sport.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I have a hundred percent positive that no matter.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What happens for the Browns this weekend, it won't stop
the shadoor talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Love it or hate it, it is here for good.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe, but today
it's really like to Joe's and a cup of Joe.
I don't know he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. It's
a bucking fits takeover.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I mean, pro is not a word that many people
use for either Buck Rising or myself in a hundred
different Don't look he's giving me this look. You're seeing
something controversial. You are barely professional, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I am one hundred percent of professional. I can't even
say the word professional. It's too early in the morning
for me.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just because you didn't go out last night.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In Atlanta doesn't mean that you're an actual professional. I mean,
it's just just you know, I'm just saying two pros.
I think when they say pros they mean, like, I
don't know, Leavar Arrington and Brady Quinn for very specific reasons,
different kind of pro than.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Buck Rising adjacent. Fitz.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Come on, well, that's fine, that's all well and good.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
You can you can be a professional and whatever it
is that you decide to be a professional in. And
if I'm a professional, you know, if my profession now
is a level of responsibility that I did not have
ten years ago when you met me, as in not
going out on a road trip. And I've been stuck
in this damn hotel room for I don't know, ten
straight days as.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
We cover, by the way, this.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Road trip stuff that NFL teams are doing, and not
all NFL teams are doing. But like I cover the
Tennessee Titans. If you're unfamiliar, Fits, he's hanging out in Connecticut.
I'm normally in Nashville, but I've been in Atlanta for
six days. Rather, they have kept the Titans on the road, FITZI,
for ten consecutive days went straight from joint preseason joint
(02:11):
training camp practices with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a preseason
game through to Atlanta. They've been here for six so
we've all been on the road together at this point
in time.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
These teams that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Do this, they better be as cohesive a unit as
any that you will find in the NFL, because this
is nonsense. I'm not entirely sure how much is actually
to be gained by things like this, but I know
it's a hell of a lot of legwork for preseason football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, Josh McDaniels kept the Raiders on the East
Coast at one point for a couple of weeks because
he thought it'd be good for team camaraderie, and if
you talk to people around the team, it was the
exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like, this is the concept we all have.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
It's tough to have benaraderie when you hate the coach.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Like if you're stuck with the coach that you hate
for a couple of weeks on the road, that is
probably not going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Good for morale.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But do we not, as a general football society think
of football as whatever it was for most of us
in like Pop Warner or high school, Like you sit
there and you think, oh, man, it'd be great to
be out with the fellows for a week, and you know,
just hang out in Atlanta and.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What a great time. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And the more you get to know guys in the league,
the more often you hear the same thing, like it's
a job. They do their job and they go home
to their family. In fact, one former Titan that wasn't
a Titan very long in his rookie year, I was
sitting down with them in Nashville and I asked him.
I was like, Hey, how's the transition. He said, Man,
it's weird. Like in college, we went everywhere together. So
you know, we went to class together, we went to
lunch together, we all hung out, and he's like, here,
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the minute everything's done for the day, everybody just leaves,
and so you're sitting there. You have no idea what
to do with the rest of your afternoon. Now, I
think most great players figure out a way to use
that time productively. But Buck, I think there is a
little bit of an element where we think it's like
kumba Ya summer camp. Because and the NFL team's gonna
go hang out in Atlanta and just absolutely destroy Magic
City Wings for a week. But the reality of it is,
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most of those guys have families and other things they'd
be doing instead of just sitting in a hotel for
the process.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The team bonding process just feels like.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Something that belongs in a movie more than it actually
happens in real locker rooms.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Truly, I have eaten my bodyweight in strict club wings
at this point. We've have been here for so long,
and they're delightful, and I've since I've tried every variety
I think that Magic City has to offer in terms
of the wings, and I don't know what is left
for me to conquer. I mean, I suppose I could
have gone to the Coca Cola Museum at some point
in time, But and the botanical gardens in Atlanta are lovely.
(04:30):
But to your point, like these are grown men, most
of them, many of them have families. School has just
started to get back in session in many parts of
the country. They're away from home at this point in time,
and just the logistics of keeping an NFL team on
the road for ten straight days.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Like that's not an easy thing.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's a small city that you've just picked up and
transported to two different cities and tried to maintain all
the level of health, wellness, recovery, conditioning, all the things
that you would have normally to make sure that you
can perform your job as at the highest possible level
has kind of been taken away from you.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And the logic at least here.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Fitzi has been, Well, this is a three and fourteen
football team, the Tennessee Titans, the worst team in football.
The number one overall draft pick cam Ward is here
because they were the worst team in football, and so
they're trying to find ways to grow leadership, to find leadership,
to find guys who will help you lift the team
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above the adversity that they're facing. When you know, the
adversity that they're facing is like the Chateau Alon that
they're staying in a lovely winery down the road in
Flowery Branch, Georgia. And if that's the kind of adversity
that a football team is up against, and everybody's out
there dragging it practice and things like that, and Hammon
and hawn about, oh you know it's some people are saying, well,
(05:53):
it's because we've been on the road so long some
people aren't using his excuse. I don't know, man, it
just seems it seems like much ado about nothing in
these kind of situations.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And it's listen for you.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
If you're the coach of a three and fourteen football
team and under duress like Brian Callahan absolutely is, then
you've got to do whatever you can to try and
figure out how to keep your job with this number
one overall pick, because, honestly, if it's a fascinating conversation
at some point this morning, would be to talk about
the number of teams who have the number one overall
draft pick, who have coaches on staff when that pick
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is made that don't see their second year, because certainly
in the last couple of years, there's been many many
NFL teams that don't seem to know what direction they're
heading in or have made up their half made up
their mind about the coaches that they've brought in or
that they have on staff by the time they bring
these quarterbacks specifically in, and how detrimental that often is
to the quarterbacks in their development. They undermine themselves with
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the level of continuity that they don't allow for because
ownership gets dissatisfied when your football team coming off of
three and fourteen season may still be stinky even if
you added a number one overall pick a quarter.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I mean, you mentioned that number one overall pick. It's
it's funny because you've already got people obsessing over the concept.
If you're a Saints fan, you're obsessing over Hey, it's okay,
we're gonna stick this year. But that's gonna be fine
because we're gonna get the first overall pick. Where we're
gonna get arch manning even though nobody has any idea
a if arch is actually really as good as advertised.
I mean, we haven't really seen him played any football.
(07:21):
And then b nobody really knows if Archie will or
arch will even come out after this year. We have
we have no idea, and Archie.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Seems too right.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Grandpa Archie seems to say, no, that's not how the
Manic family does a baby.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, Popaul is out here speaking on my half everybody,
but you're you're right though, Like when you think about
first paps.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Beectful to refer to Archie man as popa same I mean, really.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He is pop, but he he got he's got to
be a great grandpap By now right, Like I mean,
like I'm presuming that there's there's kids, the kids or
maybe you know, I don't know, he's at least he's
at least a pauppa popaul mem are coming coming in
full effect Southern colloquialisms out here. But think about how
often the team that picks first overall actually turns it
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around with that pick.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's the other part of this that I've said this
for years.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Okay, if you go back over the last I don't know,
let's say where we stand right now.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Over the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
For everybody that thinks, oh my god, Kayle Williams is
going to be the savior of the Bears, cam Ward
is going to be the savior of the Titans. That
you know, Arch Manning is gonna be the savior of
the Saints in a year, look at the last ten years.
James Winston first overall pick did not save the Buccaneers.
Jared Goff was very good for the Rams. He's not
a Ram anymore, all right, so that's fine. Miles Garrett,
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as good as he's been, did not turn around the Browns.
Baker Mayfield did not turn around the Browns. And now
is good somewhere else. Kyler Murray has made the Cardinals okay.
Joe Burrow is the one. Just huge exception, Trevor Lawrence.
Were still not one hundred percent sure who he is
as a pro. Trevon Walker, people forget he was the
first overall pick. Carolina still stinks. With Bryce Young, we
have no idea Kayleb Williams is going to actually be
(09:01):
the world beater that people want him to be.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like, the odds that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The number one overall pick actually saves the franchise he
is drafted by are pretty minimal. If you keep going
back in time, you the list goes on and on
through the two thousands of how many bad first overall
picks there were, or first overall picks that had their
most successful moment somewhere else. So the entire concept that
this rookie quarterback Couugh Schadur is going to save my
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entire franchise cough Jackson.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Dart like that.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's just it rarely happens. I wanted to happen. I
think it'd be great if it did happen.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Bucket just rarely happens.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
For you to evoke Shador before you invoke any of
the other names.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
He clicks when he clicks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's just just just hey, look everybody, everybody pays attention
to it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
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two pros FSR on YouTube and subscribe. Look, look, I'm
not trying to evoke the name of Shador. But this
all comes back to where we say, Okay, maybe I'm
trying a.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Little bit that was so disingenuous, how dark, and say
and say that I'm not trying to evoke the name
Shador's Hitders.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You know, damn well what you did?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, Look, we had yesterday on Fox Sports Radio. We
had a very I thought, real and fair and fine
conversation about Schoudour and the expectations and the fact that
maybe nothing has changed, Like maybe he shouldn't be higher
on the depth chart based on a bunch of information that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Had nothing to do with your door.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And what do I get three minutes after I'm off air,
three minutes after I'm all.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So many tweets.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Buck was real about it, like but but saying that
I'm out here just hating on Shador.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I didn't even say anything mean about it. This comes
back to what we say. All you have to do
is say Shador.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And if you don't say Shador Sanders Hall of Famer,
then you're apparently a hater.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
No I apparently I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I said nothing of the sort, and I'm receiving glowing praise.
I just you know, it's it's lovely to be on
that side of things that is not normally my existence.
But but I mean, listen, this is a this is
a God help me, it's a fan problem. Think about
the kind of organizations that we're talking about here, and
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specific to the list of players that you just read,
there have been nine quarterbacks, and we can flush this
out throughout the course of the show. We got plenty
of time to stretch our legs this morning on Fox
Sports Radio the there have been nine quarterbacks, including cam
Ward in this year's draft. If you want to If
you don't want to include Hm, I understand, because he
hadn't played his rookie season out yet. We're not even
to the second preseason game though that will take place
(11:57):
for Ward tonight here in Atlanta. You're talking about the
Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cincinnati Bengals got it
right just because they found a fire breathing dragon with
the number one overall pick and Joe Burrow. So that's
enough to at least bail them out or at least
cover up a lot of the wards that organization has.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And he got injured, and they got the number one
pick the next year, and they happened to also get
the best wide receiver in the game.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Good, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
No, I'm just saying, like, if you expect these largely
dysfunctional franchise and I tossed Tennessee and here of light.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They used to look like they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And it's been quite some time, though, We'll see if
they can't figure it out this time around.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
You are talking about organizations that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Are famously bad at this, like famously bad at the
concept of running a professional football team successfully and smoothly
and with you know, staying on message, on plan, with
a focus to try and improve those things year over year,
rather than just in the same way that a lot
of fans react. And I don't mean to you know,
fans playing certainly not as a like that's that's I'm
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the last person equipped.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm not going to tell you how to fan, but
I just think that the context is important here. You're
you're asking some of the worst organizations in pro football
to just suddenly figure it out because they added a
new player into the mix, rather than looking at that
new player and be like, oh man, you're up against it.
You've been hold onto your butt, kid, like this is
going to be this is going to be a rough
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ride on the way through it. And unfortunately for those
fan bases specifically, a lot of times those players go
out there, go out or get let go from their organizations.
In the case of Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield want a
playoff game for the Cleveland Browns. We try, We treated
that as almost something that was casual, something that regularly
happens for the Cleveland Browns. And now he is throwing
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for forty one touchdown passes last year with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, who are a functional organization and have won
the division three straight years. And I understand it's a
stinky division, but still like there are there are organizations
that understand patience over panic. It's a line that I
keep hearing here in Tennessee, if for no other reason
than the people that are running the football side of
things have to keep saying it out loud to make
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sure that the owner gets the message. These these these
players are in a hugely disadvantageous situation coming into the
kind of rosters that they are and also having to
deal with the fact that they have an entire fan
base's hope and dreams and all of these different expectations
stuck on their shoulders just because they were good enough
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to be drafted by the worst franchises in the sport.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I will correct myself to Jamar Chase. Draft of fifth overall.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Not.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
First of all, I miss speak, but the injury helps that.
And you're right, all of this creates a wild amount
of chaos.
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Speaker 3 (15:32):
Conspiracy theories in sports and gambling. It's it's August buck.
Let me let me ask you this. Aliens. We enter
out on aliens. I mean, just in general, I'm not
much of it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all.
I don't really care and so are you? Are you
in aliens exist? Where are we on this one?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They have to right? I mean, what what is the oh,
here we go? What is what is the definition of
intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean would human beings be considered intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I'm sure some h world would think. Yeah? Correct, Lorena,
absolutely correct. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
If this if the last hour and a half or
less than an hour and a half of radio is
evidence of anything, it is that human beings are not
overwhelmingly intelligent.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And I'm referencing mostly fits in myself.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
But yeah, I'm I I believe that there. However, you
would define another life form elsewhere in the vastness that
is the universe. We can't possibly be the only things
out here with with the level of quote unquote intelligence
that we assign ourselves.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
But are they among us? That is the question?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Now, Lee you you are you are a proponent of this? Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus, look
at their.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Da an alien First, they all have DNA.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
That's uh, that is defined kind of as alien. It's
sound like any other DNA on the planet.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, like, that's not as much.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's fun if it's an alien that we can't talk
to or like, like, I mean, just an alien floating
around the waters.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You should watch Octopus, Teacher. There's a bond between the
director and the octopuses. I mean there is communication. Doesn't
have to be our kind.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in
do they do? They do? They find us to be
unintelligent because they are trying to communicate with us and
we are speaking some kind of gibberish to them.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And do we.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Keep eating them and deep frying them? Well, they are delicious,
they do. No, octopus are not delicious at all.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I look, I'm a little dumbfounded here, Like the concept
is supposed to be this alien was so advanced that
they found their way to Earth from god knows where,
which can't be an easy thing to do, only to
then be susceptible to simply being caught in deep fried
and eaten like that just feels like there's a disconnect
somewhere where. And also why in every alien movie do
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they all he's landing like New York, Like, if I'm
an alien and I'm looking at the globe, if I'm
gonna land my spaceship somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm probably gonna pick an area with a bunch of
like open land, Like what wouldn't you just Egypt?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
There's plenty of room there, Like, I just don't understand
why they always land in a in a city of
some salts.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And that's my point about Octimus, though, is that you know,
the the odds are that they would land in an ocean.
They're probably just some spore, thank you, OCTOPI, some spore
on an asteroid that landed in the ocean millions and
years years ago, and.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Here we are well.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of
you to think that they weren't here first, Like, well
you are the one gentrifying there.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The other way around.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, Yeah, I mean here again loudly, I want
to say, I feel like there's probably a pretty good
chance aliens exist.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Like if I I find out today that my three
best friends are aliens, well they were my three best
friends yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They'll still be my three best friends tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Like if you were an alien all this time, you
didn't have the power to make the raiders better than
like what was really like your powerless alien?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what are
you doing well?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I mean, if you're powerful enough to get to this world,
you're supposed to have some advanced something, right, So now
you're telling me that like aliens just sort of happen
stanced over here and they're just like taking over sections
of the land and they're just like, you know, like
just squatters, squatters rights on aliens. I want them to
be here for a purpose. They're supposed to be here
for advancement or a battle or something, not just like
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hanging out.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for
bud Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
No, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien, right
like the aliens coming here would be?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
They strong disagree m that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Look, I just just I might be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Like just because I look particularly young from my age
doesn't mean I'm act an alien.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Botox does not mean you're a vampire.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, only one of us has had botox? And are
you related to Jonas? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
The the look puck Puck out here throwing botox shade
by the way, Puck, how old are you, buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
How uh thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Thirty two? You are?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I am old enough to be your dad and have
not yet had any injection put in my face?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Thank you very much?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So every three months, baby.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Two.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?
I see this is where this is where people driving
themselves crazy with this.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think the botox is the alien life form. Uh nothing, nothing,
nothing derived from humanity can can hold you together that well,
I think the botox is the alien.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll
try and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Don't don't give him, don't give him the clap for that.
That was not as good at tease as he wanted
it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a
half into this and mommy and daddy are fighting on
a morning. It's Friday morning. How can we be this
snippy on a Friday morning?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I've just I've just started to wake wake up. After
an hour and a half, of radio. Now now I
can get to you know, Now I can be me
a little bit. Go oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now now
I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain
more of me instead.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Of instead of this you know, sleepy dope that just
rolled out of bed. You know you screaming about Shadoor
Sanders at me.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not
slurred in the first hour because you went out. You
said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic
City for the Wings and only the Wings that you
stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty
Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake
and glorious. But there was no reason that you were
tired when the show started. There buddy in Atlanta, hanging
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out with maybe.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I have had six damn days here in Atlanta to
go get my strip club wings, and I have taken
full advantage at this point in time. No, I waddled
downstairs to the God help the people that are that
are also staying in this hotel that I've just been
screaming into a microphone in my room for the last
five or five or six days straight, having to hear
(22:24):
Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about the Kansas City Chiefs. No,
I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I
got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my
headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not
because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but
because for some reason, Fitzy, I just wake up with
a with.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
A not a hangover with a headache anymore. I don't
know what to do about that.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people
at Mattress Firm that way.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,
maybe you uber eat your way and maybe you uber
your way over to a gym.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Work that out, buddy, and then you'll feel better. You'll
sweat it out.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Just got a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and
the look I'm getting from Buck Rising.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.
Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien
life form hair.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's perfect already.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It just wakes up this way. Now you get to
see it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Okay, so look like you got electrocuted. Maybe he wakes
up this way.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, well this is what happens.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Look you come at me, buddy, Come at me, see
me when you're almost fifty, and we'll figure out if
your hair looks this good, buddy.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make
sure my hair looks that good by then.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That is that is Yeah, just you're gonna start saving
up for that trip. Now, that's that's the way it's done.
I'll use my gambling winnings to get there.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And gambling has me thinking about Michael Porter Junior, who
I'm I'm a little man.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I
love the fact that he just says what is on
his mind when he's on his mind. But he was
on one night with Stuff I Need the podcast and
he talked about sports gambling with his friends and looks
it's pretty staggering when he starts talking about the advantage
that it can create when you can just look at
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your buddies and say, hey, you know what, maybe play
the under tonight. And then you get injured, and like
your one buddy can make ten grand and another buddy
can make ten Brandon grand, and he's he's talking about
this buck, and I just I'm stunned because I cannot
believe that a player in the league doesn't understand the
systems that are in place to catch that exact thing.
(24:34):
Like if any sports but there's a national register that
looks at all bets that are placed in any sports books.
He's an unusual amount of activity being placed on the
under of Michael Porter Junior, for you know, ten thousand
dollars and there's five or six bets on it, and
they see it. There isn't a chance in hell that
doesn't get flagged. Like these are the moments that I
keep looking at everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when
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it comes to players. The fact that we're getting people
flagged all the time shows you that the guardrails are
actually working.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Let me let me hear the full or the audio
context if I could lay from the One Night with
Steiny podcast.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it. If you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand
dollars on under. You know this one game, I'm gonna
act like I got an injury and I'm I'm gonna
sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes and
they all get a little bad because you did it
one game like that is so not okay. But some
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people probably think like that. They come from nothing and
all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro, if
I if I come out of this game after three
minutes and y'all all hit on my under, we're all
getting a little bad, you know what I mean? And
I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,
Malik Beasley's going through a situation roun Now, Terry Rozier
was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling
(25:52):
like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's
only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do
get death threats.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
So that is courtesy.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny
Podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different
subcase This is a pretty pretty interesting listen. If you
haven't caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about
like dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling
on that, But is is larger point about the betting
impact going to get worse, and you know how much
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of this has detracted from the integrity of the game
or the enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional
athletes sides Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially
when you're you've got so many these these gambling entities
that are promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that,
(26:49):
and they're there are the instances are few and far between,
like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you
mentioned this earlier or if not, you've you've mentioned it
off air or in previous shows that we've done again,
other that the system is working to make sure that
we catch these things and there are very few and
far between instances that these things are actually happening. So
(27:09):
it's just are you are you smart enough to avoid
the temptation of what of what Michael Porter Junior has
just described there, Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine,
it could cost you what ten grand you could make
for you and your buddies, if you're faking an injury
and hitting you're under, or betting you're under and faking
an injury and then making sure that that under hits
(27:31):
you cost yourself so much more in the long term
as far as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it
that way? Like, I get that, and ten thousand dollars
is not an amount of money to turn your nose
up at, even if you're a professional athlete. But like
that logic to me what he's describing it, it simply
(27:51):
does not make sense, especially when you talk about the
NBA and the amount of money that even fringe like
you know, seventh or eighth guys off the bench are
making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a drop in
the bucket.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
That's that's couch cushion change.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,
there are national systems. You know, it's funny. I like
to watch old Law and Order and you know, the
like the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Original law were making law and orders.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah, yeah, you can't stick.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I haven't
gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally listened
to Law and Order every day while I'm in the gym.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't like rage music when I work out, and
so I just like to go into like a weird
spot where like I don't think. And I've watched every
episode of the old Law and Order, so I just
started season.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
One earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's
new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw
an episode from I think season four or five where
one of the new cops was having to teach everybody
how to use email and the internet because they didn't
even realize that existed.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And part of what they're starting to do in these
old seasons is say.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Hey, we can cross references person and see if they're
wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in
an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,
if you're junkie for true crime and serial killers, you'll
see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like they
would be all over the place, and because there wasn't
an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington to Florida,
(29:19):
it became really hard to catch people like Ted Bundy like,
that's because technology didn't exist the way that it exists today. Well,
now technology is such that gambling is the databases that
exists for regulation exists nationally.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
So even if.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You've got one body over here in Maine and one
body over here in Wisconsin and you're telling them to
put that ten thousand dollars out, it is going to
cause a flag. And this is where I come back to,
you know, my childhood. I grew up in Las Vegas
as a kid, and my parents were both casino managers.
And you know, I remember when we left Vegas, everybody
would always ask my parents, Like we'd be sitting around
with you know, friends and friends, family, and it was
(29:56):
always all, man, you know, casinos they cheat, don't they.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Now this is you know, post mob Era or the
mob ere a very different post mob Erera.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been
blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat
because people are stupid. And the whole point that she
constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,
and you can't cheat in a casino even if you
want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are
so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is, all you
(30:27):
gotta do is rely on people to lose self control,
and so when the advantage always goes to the house,
eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and
the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy
casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings
isn't here taking bets because most people get the best
of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand
over fist. So all of these companies are making money
(30:48):
because most people are out there just playing parlay after
parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket
that won, but they don't show you one hundred tickets
that lost over the course of the year, right, Like
that's the.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Way this whole gambling thing works.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
So for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm
gonna go make ten grand for my friend because I
have insider information at what risk, at what costs, Because
the regulations will find you and they have found them.
Like the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under
investigation is because you can't do these things without people
figuring out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So
(31:19):
if you're placing any actual dollars on any of this,
it's simply going to flag somebody. And if you're not
placing any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth
the risks. So I just think that we're turning something
that's actually being positively regulated into some sort of a
massive chaos like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes
than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,
listen as people who speaking to microphones for a living.
(32:00):
I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like
some of these, some of these conversations that are being
had by athletes where where you would never never in
a million world, in a million years, Fitzy, you know,
I do postgame locker room uh stuff all the time.
As as a beat reporter, I cover i cover a
(32:21):
team on a day to day basis.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I'm in the locker.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Room probably four days a week, and in press conference
settings like these things would never be said in front
of media that way.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And yet you know, an.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Athlete gets in a podcast setting in a situation where
they're probably surrounded by people that they trust far more
than you know, the media vultures like like myself and
things like that, and they overshare or share some of
the most bird brain stuff you've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I think I think.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That the podcast appearances and how many people have these
different platforms that will get aggregated like this far more
detrimental to to the to the to the well being
of these of these athletes than anything else, because you,
even if you believe some of this stuff, or even
(33:09):
if you are feeling this type of way, like there
is there is something to the oversharing of it that
will that will allow your words to be twisted or
or give your words more meaning than you actually intended
them to have, because your words do matter, and now
they're being documented and literally every platform. And I'm not
against people having podcasts, like I like hearing more transparency
(33:30):
from athletes. I like getting a better look at how
they actually feel, because God knows, they're not willing to
share it with a lot of us who are asking
them these questions on a day to day basis. And
and you know, most of it well intentioned. Some some
people are out to get you for clickbait. And otherwise,
but just I find it so funny that athletes are
so guarded in certain settings and then you know, they
(33:52):
sit down on a couch with a couple of sure
mics and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's
fair game and no rules apply, and logic and reason
don't actually matter here.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You forget where you are sometimes.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
The very first digital livestream show that I did at
ESPN at the time with Mina Kimes, like there was
a bunch of us for the NFL and we were
live and we were not on any sort of a
delay because we're all pros. We've all done TV and
radio and there's no big deal. Thirty seconds in, Mina
drops an F bomb because and she immediately said, she's like,
I'm so sorry, but like we were all sitting on
(34:25):
the couch to shoot, like it felt like the night
before when we were sitting on you know, Michael Ola
Junior scouch having the same conversations. This time there were
just microphones, and you forget, and that is that is
absolutely part of this. Like you get comfortable, and when
you're comfortable, you say something maybe maybe you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Could you ever imagine, as an NFL fan, or an
NBA fan, or an NHL fan or major baseball fan,
a system where, before a single game have been played,
everybody would sit down and simply, by arbitrary vote, decide
how your favorite team is ranked, which will decide how
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your favorite team is perceived, which could decide the entire
fate of your season. All based not on a single game,
not on a single snap of football, not on a
single meaningful moment, but instead on the presumption of what
it's gonna look like. That sounds asinine, that feels stupid,
(35:32):
and it's exactly what for some reason, college football still
gives us every single year. It's two pros and a
cup of Joe. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're
in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And Buck me. Eight people came out this week. Now.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I'm a long since believer that the college football coaches
poles should not exist. Coaches that you talk to will
tell you they can't watch enough football to vote. In fact,
how are they even supposed to have the time to
watch all of the top twenty five games before they
submit their vote every week? And why are they waste
all of their time as voters just sitting there getting.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
No I gotta take a look at this number twenty unlv.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I gotta watch that game to see how I'm gonna
vote on them, Like, that's not realistic. The coach's pole
is just it should be non existent at this point.
I understand the value of the Associated Press pol at
some point, but I don't understand the value of the
Associated Press Bowl. Today, Texas is the number one team
in the country. Based on this presumption that arch Manning
is gonna come in having played two started two games,
(36:27):
he's thrown less than one hundred collegiate passes. Arch Manning
is just gonna lead them to the Promised Land. Like
the amount of guesses, the amount of sure, the amount
of throws spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks
from the ape pole is just stupid to me, And
it does weirdly impact like there. It impacts the perception
of certain teams. It impacts the way we think this
(36:48):
season's gonna go. Like I don't see any positive that
comes from the a peopole other than the hype of
being able to say, oh, Texas versus Ohio State, so
one versus A three.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Well there is that, And so the networks and the
places that put these rankings out would also benefit from
being able to have additional hype around because now you
see what the week one or yeah, the first week
of college football matchups look like. Where you've got Texas
and Ohio State, and that's it's it sells itself under
normal circumstances, but it give it a little extra juice if,
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for example, you know Texas has never been number one
in the preseason AP pole, like it again, and you
would think Brandon as big as Texas at some point,
with as much talent and as many NFL players as
have gone through that university, would be number one. It's like,
I mean, not quite as crazy as Vandy never having
been ranked in a preseason AP pole, even though Diego
Pavia will tell everybody at every turn that he's going
(37:42):
to win the national championship at a place where nobody
expects him to win a national championship and just think
it's cute. Otherwise, respectfully to the commodores. But I mean,
I enjoy the dialogue around at FITZI, even though I
understand that it doesn't actually mean and this one doesn't
actually mean anything, because I you know, I would do
away with the with the ap pole altogether if you'd
(38:04):
let me, because we do. We eventually do away with
the ape pole or devalue the a people when the
college football playoff rankings come out, and then we have
the ap pole, which doesn't matter anymore, juxtaposed against the
thing that actually matters for the purposes of seeding and
all these other things. But that's that's less sexy, that's
less conversational. And we understand that. You know, we've you
(38:27):
and I have done two hours of radio today. We'll
do another fifty six minutes based on how much time
that we have left.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
And I've got three hours to do on the local
show today.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
And you know what, We're going to talk about a
lot of college football, baby, because this is the last
weekend that we will have, the last Saturday that we
will have without college football in our lives. Praise be
to the football gods. So while the value of it,
it's just it's how much value do you actually want
to put it in you do you take the thing
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for what it is, or do you actually want to
have serious preseason commons about the ranking of things, because
I'm sure there are Tennessee fans that are but heard
about the idea of Indiana being ranked higher than them,
and even though it's a preseason bowl, because then you're
trafficking in fan base pride, and that's a good way
to stir up conversation. It's a good way to stir
up intrigue and interest. It's a good way to get
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people talking about, you know, programs that you might not
otherwise be talking about. Where should South Carolina is the
thirteenth best team in the country, of the thirteenth ranked
team in the country ahead of the season, actually be
ranked higher? We discounting them because South Carolina is not
somebody that we normally talk about as a college football
playoff contender. But with Leonora Sellers and the record that
they had last season and the recruiting talent that they've
(39:40):
been able to compile, they absolutely should be. Does a
university like Miami belong as high as ten with as
much turnover as they've had, even though their offensive coordinator
is saying or at least propping Carson Beckup is potentially
having another number one overall pick in his quarterback room,
which I think is a bit nonsense.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, yeah, it's just like, it's what else is
he gonna say?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Man, we paid Carson back a ton of money, and
boy does he suck.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
But yes, I hear, he's too busy cheating on a
Cavendar twin and then doing all the things that the
rest of us would probably do in our early twenties
in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
If I was if I was rich in my early
twenties in South Florida, there's there's absolutely nothing I wouldn't
be trying to put in my body and nobody wouldn't
cheat on.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So I like it. Look, I get it. I'm not.
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Look in my early twenties, that wasn't the adult that
I am now. I make sure that I do.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I think you make a Oh God, I can't bounce
back from that one. I think you make our fair point. Yeah,
that is. I set myself up for.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That about conversation though, because I will say, Look, I'm
an agent of chaos.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
College football is my favorite sport to cover, and it
is namely my favorite sport to cover because I don't
care who wins and loses. And the craziest thing about
that is that fan base is all They all got
so worked up that that's what I love. I don't
really what I need is for Alabama to be either
really great or really terrible, because either way people care. Right,
what I need is for Texas to either go out
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and win a national championship or just get decimated and
fall off the rails, because either way people care, like
I want people to care about college football because I
love the sport. That being said, you make a good
point about the conversation. Part of the reason I've long
since been a champion of the College Football Playoff Committee
is if we simply create automatic bids where people get
into the college Football Playoff by where they finished in
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their conference, there's no reason to talk about college football.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And you know, very real like.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Watch shows like you know across the ESPN and Fox
Sports all day watch Get Up Right, and during a
regular time of the year, is get upm gonna talk
about college football on Tuesday or Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
The answer to that is no.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
And for the first month and a half of the season,
they'll barely cover college football right.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
But the minute the college football playoffs starts.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
To come out every Tuesday night, in part because ESPN
has the broadcasting right, so that oh Man, Tuesday, there's
a national media conversation what's the committee going to do?
And Wednesday there's a reaction to it. I think that's
good for the growth of the sport it is. I've
seen the numbers and frankly, even at Yahoo where I
am now and incredible check out yah who Sports Daily
by the way, Monday through Friday, and I do eleven
(42:15):
am Eastern that's live.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Thank you. No, it's a plug. That's not a fine.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
It's a plug that you should be fine for, even
though it is excellent content that you and Caroline Fenton
are doing.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Thank you, Thank you very much. I appreciate that compliment.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Look, we look at the numbers and college football doesn't
do great ratings on podcasts, it doesn't do great rating
on national shows things like that.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Monday Tuesday, there isn't really a big appetite for it. Friday,
there isn't really a big appetite.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
I've hosted a ton of esp and college football shows
and my time when I was there and it's crazy
how many of those shows were. Hey, the ratings are
okay on Monday, but they're terrible on Friday. Like, all
of this is because college football has a hard time
cutting through the noise nationally for a lot of people,
and that's that seems crazy to everyone in the South
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and everyone in the Midwest, but it's real to the
national perspective. I like having reasons to create a conversation,
So maybe you've changed my mind a little bit, because
you're right. We wouldn't be talking about Texas the same
way we are, but they're the preseason number one, so
it creates a conversation. I just wish there was a
way to do that without propping up false value that
can change, you know, perception biases.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, I get that, but if if there was, we
would have figured it out by now, you know what
I'm saying, Like, because it's not just cutting through the noise,
it's cutting through the NFL, and they're just one otherworldly
ability to suffocate the life out of every other sport,
even America's second most popular sport, which is of course
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college football. I FITZI I enjoy it, and not just
because I live in the South and in Nashville, Tennessee,
where you know, we don't have great local college football,
although Diego Povey has given us some juice, you know.
I mean, if if it's Povy is like the preseason poll. Okay,
he he making a lot of noise, a lot of
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noise for people who are unfamiliar with Diego Pavia. He's
the quarterback of the Vanderbilt Commodore's. If you're unfamiliar with
Vanderbilt Commodore football, it is famously stinky. They upset Alabama.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You like stinky. Stinky's word the buck rising lights like
I'm you know.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
It seems it seems gentler then sucks.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Out loud, which I used to describe Titan's cornerback depth
on the on the Local show yesterday.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
It just seems a bit gentler and I and I
enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I'm enjoying the Pavia, the Pavia thing, and I don't
want to denigrate him just for the sake of denigrating him,
even though I you know, his program is not to
be respected just yet, even though they're coming off a
nice season where they had one of the biggest college
football upsets we may ever see in our lifetimes. Up
upsetting Alabama in Nashville last year. But Pave is doing
a lot of talking, right He's going on Paul Finebam,
(44:51):
and he's saying that the that the standard at Vanderbilt
is national championship when it has never been the standard
at Vanderbilt, and hell winning seasons are an upset at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Bowl eligibility is an upset at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Their Twitter account put out the fact that they got
rings for their bowl game win over Georgia Tech this year,
and they were the laughing stock of the college football world,
even though that's an accomplishment for Vanderbilt. So Diego Pavia
doing a lot of talking in the preseason, it's going
to put a big old target on his back, but
it is at least going to get people interested in
Vanderbilt and following along.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Whether you're rooting for him or against him.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
You want to see him continue to talk his talk,
or you want to see him silenced because you don't
like that kind of arrogance from a player at a
program that does not historically make waves that way. So
the preseason poll is my equivalent to Diego Pavia. And
also because FITZI like I college football is a better product.
And I say that as an NFL reporter. And it's
not just because like the NFL is my job, and
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you know, I it's it's the best.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Job in the world.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
And getting to travel all over the country and do
local radio for three hours a day, do national radio
with you, and all the different opportunities that's afforded me. Like,
I love my job and I love covering the l
but college football is way more fun, way more fun.
And to see, you know, to see people not necessarily
interested in it, because you know, in the Northeast, what
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do they care? What are you gonna You're gonna pull
for Rutgers on a week by week basis, there's gonna
be a big galvanizing effect of the big ten power.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Rutgers and things like that.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
No, of course not. But in the Southeast and the
Midwest it is tribal this way. And the hatred, the
hatred that fuels it as a sport is delightful to me.
And the way that people will end relationships over college
football fallouts and things like that, I just find it
thoroughly satisfying. Beyond just how much more those fan bases
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care about their programs versus the NFL, where there is
far more national attention but far less community. It feels
safe places like green Bay, Wisconsin, where there is really
nothing else to do but go to a green Bay
Packers game, which, by the way, respectfully with the city
of green Bay wildly overrated.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
The Packers games in the city of green Bay.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
There's nothing to write about about green Bay. Green Bay
is a god forsaken wasteland in the middle of nowhere.
I mean, Lambo's fine. I did a primetime game at
Lambeau a couple of years ago. It was, ironically enough,
one of the last fun Titans games I've covered. And
then the offensive coordinator got a dui afterwards because they
can't handle success.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
So I yeah, I mean it was it was fine.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
I wasn't blown away with it like I was going
to Kneeland for the first time one hundred and ten
thousand on your next screaming the entire time when they
haven't mattered on a national championship level for you know,
the previous fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
That's that's unique.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, you're right. We played the arena right next to.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Right next to Lambo several times, and every time I
was there, I was like, yeah, it's lambo, it's fine,
and you're not wrong. I think for me, it's always
a weird situation to be in that nothing moves my
soul the way watching an NFL game that I care
about does, like in a specific the Raiders for me,
but obviously like the big Sunday night football game, a
great Monday night football game, the afternoon game, like when
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we get these Thanksgiving Chiefs Cowboys games, sort of things
like that moves my soul. But if I turn on
the TV and the only game on on the early
window where I'm at, if I didn't have the ticket
was I don't know, Jets Jags, I'm not I'm much
more likely to sit down and say, hey, this is
a terrible Missouri team taking on a terrible Buffalo team.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I watch that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
There's something about the environment about college football that to
me makes it a better watch
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
There are certain things I can just say.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I am one hundred percent positive of I am one
hundred percent positive.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That we make too much of preseason football.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm one hundred percent positive that we're obsessed with the sport.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I have a hundred percent positive that no matter.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What happens for the Browns this weekend, it won't stop
the shadoor talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Love it or hate it, it is here for good.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe, but today
it's really like to Joe's and a cup of Joe.
I don't know he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. It's
a bucking fits takeover.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I mean, pro is not a word that many people
use for either Buck Rising or myself in a hundred
different Don't look he's giving me this look. You're seeing
something controversial. You are barely professional, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I am one hundred percent of professional. I can't even
say the word professional. It's too early in the morning
for me.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just because you didn't go out last night.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In Atlanta doesn't mean that you're an actual professional. I mean,
it's just just you know, I'm just saying two pros.
I think when they say pros they mean, like, I
don't know, Leavar Arrington and Brady Quinn for very specific reasons,
different kind of pro than.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Buck Rising adjacent. Fitz.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Come on, well, that's fine, that's all well and good.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
You can you can be a professional and whatever it
is that you decide to be a professional in. And
if I'm a professional, you know, if my profession now
is a level of responsibility that I did not have
ten years ago when you met me, as in not
going out on a road trip. And I've been stuck
in this damn hotel room for I don't know, ten
straight days as.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
We cover, by the way, this.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Road trip stuff that NFL teams are doing, and not
all NFL teams are doing. But like I cover the
Tennessee Titans. If you're unfamiliar, Fits, he's hanging out in Connecticut.
I'm normally in Nashville, but I've been in Atlanta for
six days. Rather, they have kept the Titans on the road, FITZI,
for ten consecutive days went straight from joint preseason joint
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training camp practices with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a preseason
game through to Atlanta. They've been here for six so
we've all been on the road together at this point
in time.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
These teams that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Do this, they better be as cohesive a unit as
any that you will find in the NFL, because this
is nonsense. I'm not entirely sure how much is actually
to be gained by things like this, but I know
it's a hell of a lot of legwork for preseason football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, Josh McDaniels kept the Raiders on the East
Coast at one point for a couple of weeks because
he thought it'd be good for team camaraderie, and if
you talk to people around the team, it was the
exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like, this is the concept we all have.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
It's tough to have benaraderie when you hate the coach.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Like if you're stuck with the coach that you hate
for a couple of weeks on the road, that is
probably not going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Good for morale.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But do we not, as a general football society think
of football as whatever it was for most of us
in like Pop Warner or high school, Like you sit
there and you think, oh, man, it'd be great to
be out with the fellows for a week, and you know,
just hang out in Atlanta and.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What a great time. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And the more you get to know guys in the league,
the more often you hear the same thing, like it's
a job. They do their job and they go home
to their family. In fact, one former Titan that wasn't
a Titan very long in his rookie year, I was
sitting down with them in Nashville and I asked him.
I was like, Hey, how's the transition. He said, Man,
it's weird. Like in college, we went everywhere together. So
you know, we went to class together, we went to
lunch together, we all hung out, and he's like, here,
(03:35):
the minute everything's done for the day, everybody just leaves,
and so you're sitting there. You have no idea what
to do with the rest of your afternoon. Now, I
think most great players figure out a way to use
that time productively. But Buck, I think there is a
little bit of an element where we think it's like
kumba Ya summer camp. Because and the NFL team's gonna
go hang out in Atlanta and just absolutely destroy Magic
City Wings for a week. But the reality of it is,
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most of those guys have families and other things they'd
be doing instead of just sitting in a hotel for
the process.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The team bonding process just feels like.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Something that belongs in a movie more than it actually
happens in real locker rooms.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Truly, I have eaten my bodyweight in strict club wings
at this point. We've have been here for so long,
and they're delightful, and I've since I've tried every variety
I think that Magic City has to offer in terms
of the wings, and I don't know what is left
for me to conquer. I mean, I suppose I could
have gone to the Coca Cola Museum at some point
in time, But and the botanical gardens in Atlanta are lovely.
(04:30):
But to your point, like these are grown men, most
of them, many of them have families. School has just
started to get back in session in many parts of
the country. They're away from home at this point in time,
and just the logistics of keeping an NFL team on
the road for ten straight days.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Like that's not an easy thing.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's a small city that you've just picked up and
transported to two different cities and tried to maintain all
the level of health, wellness, recovery, conditioning, all the things
that you would have normally to make sure that you
can perform your job as at the highest possible level
has kind of been taken away from you.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And the logic at least here.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Fitzi has been, Well, this is a three and fourteen
football team, the Tennessee Titans, the worst team in football.
The number one overall draft pick cam Ward is here
because they were the worst team in football, and so
they're trying to find ways to grow leadership, to find leadership,
to find guys who will help you lift the team
(05:31):
above the adversity that they're facing. When you know, the
adversity that they're facing is like the Chateau Alon that
they're staying in a lovely winery down the road in
Flowery Branch, Georgia. And if that's the kind of adversity
that a football team is up against, and everybody's out
there dragging it practice and things like that, and Hammon
and hawn about, oh you know it's some people are saying, well,
(05:53):
it's because we've been on the road so long some
people aren't using his excuse. I don't know, man, it
just seems it seems like much ado about nothing in
these kind of situations.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And it's listen for you.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
If you're the coach of a three and fourteen football
team and under duress like Brian Callahan absolutely is, then
you've got to do whatever you can to try and
figure out how to keep your job with this number
one overall pick, because, honestly, if it's a fascinating conversation
at some point this morning, would be to talk about
the number of teams who have the number one overall
draft pick, who have coaches on staff when that pick
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is made that don't see their second year, because certainly
in the last couple of years, there's been many many
NFL teams that don't seem to know what direction they're
heading in or have made up their half made up
their mind about the coaches that they've brought in or
that they have on staff by the time they bring
these quarterbacks specifically in, and how detrimental that often is
to the quarterbacks in their development. They undermine themselves with
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the level of continuity that they don't allow for because
ownership gets dissatisfied when your football team coming off of
three and fourteen season may still be stinky even if
you added a number one overall pick a quarter.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I mean, you mentioned that number one overall pick. It's
it's funny because you've already got people obsessing over the concept.
If you're a Saints fan, you're obsessing over Hey, it's okay,
we're gonna stick this year. But that's gonna be fine
because we're gonna get the first overall pick. Where we're
gonna get arch manning even though nobody has any idea
a if arch is actually really as good as advertised.
I mean, we haven't really seen him played any football.
(07:21):
And then b nobody really knows if Archie will or
arch will even come out after this year. We have
we have no idea, and Archie.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Seems too right.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Grandpa Archie seems to say, no, that's not how the
Manic family does a baby.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, Popaul is out here speaking on my half everybody,
but you're you're right though, Like when you think about
first paps.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Beectful to refer to Archie man as popa same I mean, really.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He is pop, but he he got he's got to
be a great grandpap By now right, Like I mean,
like I'm presuming that there's there's kids, the kids or
maybe you know, I don't know, he's at least he's
at least a pauppa popaul mem are coming coming in
full effect Southern colloquialisms out here. But think about how
often the team that picks first overall actually turns it
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around with that pick.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's the other part of this that I've said this
for years.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Okay, if you go back over the last I don't know,
let's say where we stand right now.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Over the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
For everybody that thinks, oh my god, Kayle Williams is
going to be the savior of the Bears, cam Ward
is going to be the savior of the Titans. That
you know, Arch Manning is gonna be the savior of
the Saints in a year, look at the last ten years.
James Winston first overall pick did not save the Buccaneers.
Jared Goff was very good for the Rams. He's not
a Ram anymore, all right, so that's fine. Miles Garrett,
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as good as he's been, did not turn around the Browns.
Baker Mayfield did not turn around the Browns. And now
is good somewhere else. Kyler Murray has made the Cardinals okay.
Joe Burrow is the one. Just huge exception, Trevor Lawrence.
Were still not one hundred percent sure who he is
as a pro. Trevon Walker, people forget he was the
first overall pick. Carolina still stinks. With Bryce Young, we
have no idea Kayleb Williams is going to actually be
(09:01):
the world beater that people want him to be.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like, the odds that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The number one overall pick actually saves the franchise he
is drafted by are pretty minimal. If you keep going
back in time, you the list goes on and on
through the two thousands of how many bad first overall
picks there were, or first overall picks that had their
most successful moment somewhere else. So the entire concept that
this rookie quarterback Couugh Schadur is going to save my
(09:28):
entire franchise cough Jackson.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Dart like that.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's just it rarely happens. I wanted to happen. I
think it'd be great if it did happen.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Bucket just rarely happens.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
For you to evoke Shador before you invoke any of
the other names.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
He clicks when he clicks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's just just just hey, look everybody, everybody pays attention
to it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Two pros Cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
By the way, and in the morning Central time, you
want to start a fight with the rest of America
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Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, okay, look.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
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two pros FSR on YouTube and subscribe. Look, look, I'm
not trying to evoke the name of Shador. But this
all comes back to where we say, Okay, maybe I'm
trying a.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Little bit that was so disingenuous, how dark, and say
and say that I'm not trying to evoke the name
Shador's Hitders.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You know, damn well what you did?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, Look, we had yesterday on Fox Sports Radio. We
had a very I thought, real and fair and fine
conversation about Schoudour and the expectations and the fact that
maybe nothing has changed, Like maybe he shouldn't be higher
on the depth chart based on a bunch of information that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Had nothing to do with your door.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And what do I get three minutes after I'm off air,
three minutes after I'm all.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So many tweets.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Buck was real about it, like but but saying that
I'm out here just hating on Shador.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I didn't even say anything mean about it. This comes
back to what we say. All you have to do
is say Shador.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And if you don't say Shador Sanders Hall of Famer,
then you're apparently a hater.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
No I apparently I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I said nothing of the sort, and I'm receiving glowing praise.
I just you know, it's it's lovely to be on
that side of things that is not normally my existence.
But but I mean, listen, this is a this is
a God help me, it's a fan problem. Think about
the kind of organizations that we're talking about here, and
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specific to the list of players that you just read,
there have been nine quarterbacks, and we can flush this
out throughout the course of the show. We got plenty
of time to stretch our legs this morning on Fox
Sports Radio the there have been nine quarterbacks, including cam
Ward in this year's draft. If you want to If
you don't want to include Hm, I understand, because he
hadn't played his rookie season out yet. We're not even
to the second preseason game though that will take place
(11:57):
for Ward tonight here in Atlanta. You're talking about the
Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cincinnati Bengals got it
right just because they found a fire breathing dragon with
the number one overall pick and Joe Burrow. So that's
enough to at least bail them out or at least
cover up a lot of the wards that organization has.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And he got injured, and they got the number one
pick the next year, and they happened to also get
the best wide receiver in the game.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Good, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
No, I'm just saying, like, if you expect these largely
dysfunctional franchise and I tossed Tennessee and here of light.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They used to look like they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And it's been quite some time, though, We'll see if
they can't figure it out this time around.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
You are talking about organizations that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Are famously bad at this, like famously bad at the
concept of running a professional football team successfully and smoothly
and with you know, staying on message, on plan, with
a focus to try and improve those things year over year,
rather than just in the same way that a lot
of fans react. And I don't mean to you know,
fans playing certainly not as a like that's that's I'm
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the last person equipped.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm not going to tell you how to fan, but
I just think that the context is important here. You're
you're asking some of the worst organizations in pro football
to just suddenly figure it out because they added a
new player into the mix, rather than looking at that
new player and be like, oh man, you're up against it.
You've been hold onto your butt, kid, like this is
going to be this is going to be a rough
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ride on the way through it. And unfortunately for those
fan bases specifically, a lot of times those players go
out there, go out or get let go from their organizations.
In the case of Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield want a
playoff game for the Cleveland Browns. We try, We treated
that as almost something that was casual, something that regularly
happens for the Cleveland Browns. And now he is throwing
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for forty one touchdown passes last year with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, who are a functional organization and have won
the division three straight years. And I understand it's a
stinky division, but still like there are there are organizations
that understand patience over panic. It's a line that I
keep hearing here in Tennessee, if for no other reason
than the people that are running the football side of
things have to keep saying it out loud to make
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sure that the owner gets the message. These these these
players are in a hugely disadvantageous situation coming into the
kind of rosters that they are and also having to
deal with the fact that they have an entire fan
base's hope and dreams and all of these different expectations
stuck on their shoulders just because they were good enough
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to be drafted by the worst franchises in the sport.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I will correct myself to Jamar Chase. Draft of fifth overall.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Not.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
First of all, I miss speak, but the injury helps that.
And you're right, all of this creates a wild amount
of chaos.
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Speaker 3 (15:32):
Conspiracy theories in sports and gambling. It's it's August buck.
Let me let me ask you this. Aliens. We enter
out on aliens. I mean, just in general, I'm not
much of it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all.
I don't really care and so are you? Are you
in aliens exist? Where are we on this one?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They have to right? I mean, what what is the oh,
here we go? What is what is the definition of
intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean would human beings be considered intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I'm sure some h world would think. Yeah? Correct, Lorena,
absolutely correct. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
If this if the last hour and a half or
less than an hour and a half of radio is
evidence of anything, it is that human beings are not
overwhelmingly intelligent.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And I'm referencing mostly fits in myself.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
But yeah, I'm I I believe that there. However, you
would define another life form elsewhere in the vastness that
is the universe. We can't possibly be the only things
out here with with the level of quote unquote intelligence
that we assign ourselves.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
But are they among us? That is the question?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Now, Lee you you are you are a proponent of this? Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus, look
at their.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Da an alien First, they all have DNA.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
That's uh, that is defined kind of as alien. It's
sound like any other DNA on the planet.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, like, that's not as much.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's fun if it's an alien that we can't talk
to or like, like, I mean, just an alien floating
around the waters.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You should watch Octopus, Teacher. There's a bond between the
director and the octopuses. I mean there is communication. Doesn't
have to be our kind.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in
do they do? They do? They find us to be
unintelligent because they are trying to communicate with us and
we are speaking some kind of gibberish to them.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And do we.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Keep eating them and deep frying them? Well, they are delicious,
they do. No, octopus are not delicious at all.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I look, I'm a little dumbfounded here, Like the concept
is supposed to be this alien was so advanced that
they found their way to Earth from god knows where,
which can't be an easy thing to do, only to
then be susceptible to simply being caught in deep fried
and eaten like that just feels like there's a disconnect
somewhere where. And also why in every alien movie do
(17:59):
they all he's landing like New York, Like, if I'm
an alien and I'm looking at the globe, if I'm
gonna land my spaceship somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm probably gonna pick an area with a bunch of
like open land, Like what wouldn't you just Egypt?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
There's plenty of room there, Like, I just don't understand
why they always land in a in a city of
some salts.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And that's my point about Octimus, though, is that you know,
the the odds are that they would land in an ocean.
They're probably just some spore, thank you, OCTOPI, some spore
on an asteroid that landed in the ocean millions and
years years ago, and.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Here we are well.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of
you to think that they weren't here first, Like, well
you are the one gentrifying there.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The other way around.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, Yeah, I mean here again loudly, I want
to say, I feel like there's probably a pretty good
chance aliens exist.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Like if I I find out today that my three
best friends are aliens, well they were my three best
friends yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They'll still be my three best friends tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Like if you were an alien all this time, you
didn't have the power to make the raiders better than
like what was really like your powerless alien?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what are
you doing well?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I mean, if you're powerful enough to get to this world,
you're supposed to have some advanced something, right, So now
you're telling me that like aliens just sort of happen
stanced over here and they're just like taking over sections
of the land and they're just like, you know, like
just squatters, squatters rights on aliens. I want them to
be here for a purpose. They're supposed to be here
for advancement or a battle or something, not just like
(19:43):
hanging out.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for
bud Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
No, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien, right
like the aliens coming here would be?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
They strong disagree m that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Look, I just just I might be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Like just because I look particularly young from my age
doesn't mean I'm act an alien.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Botox does not mean you're a vampire.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, only one of us has had botox? And are
you related to Jonas? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
The the look puck Puck out here throwing botox shade
by the way, Puck, how old are you, buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
How uh thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Thirty two? You are?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I am old enough to be your dad and have
not yet had any injection put in my face?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Thank you very much?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So every three months, baby.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Two.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?
I see this is where this is where people driving
themselves crazy with this.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think the botox is the alien life form. Uh nothing, nothing,
nothing derived from humanity can can hold you together that well,
I think the botox is the alien.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll
try and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Don't don't give him, don't give him the clap for that.
That was not as good at tease as he wanted
it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a
half into this and mommy and daddy are fighting on
a morning. It's Friday morning. How can we be this
snippy on a Friday morning?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I've just I've just started to wake wake up. After
an hour and a half, of radio. Now now I
can get to you know, Now I can be me
a little bit. Go oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now now
I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain
more of me instead.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Of instead of this you know, sleepy dope that just
rolled out of bed. You know you screaming about Shadoor
Sanders at me.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not
slurred in the first hour because you went out. You
said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic
City for the Wings and only the Wings that you
stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty
Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake
and glorious. But there was no reason that you were
tired when the show started. There buddy in Atlanta, hanging
(21:58):
out with maybe.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I have had six damn days here in Atlanta to
go get my strip club wings, and I have taken
full advantage at this point in time. No, I waddled
downstairs to the God help the people that are that
are also staying in this hotel that I've just been
screaming into a microphone in my room for the last
five or five or six days straight, having to hear
(22:24):
Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about the Kansas City Chiefs. No,
I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I
got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my
headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not
because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but
because for some reason, Fitzy, I just wake up with
a with.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
A not a hangover with a headache anymore. I don't
know what to do about that.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people
at Mattress Firm that way.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,
maybe you uber eat your way and maybe you uber
your way over to a gym.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Work that out, buddy, and then you'll feel better. You'll
sweat it out.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Just got a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and
the look I'm getting from Buck Rising.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.
Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien
life form hair.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's perfect already.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It just wakes up this way. Now you get to
see it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Okay, so look like you got electrocuted. Maybe he wakes
up this way.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, well this is what happens.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Look you come at me, buddy, Come at me, see
me when you're almost fifty, and we'll figure out if
your hair looks this good, buddy.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make
sure my hair looks that good by then.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That is that is Yeah, just you're gonna start saving
up for that trip. Now, that's that's the way it's done.
I'll use my gambling winnings to get there.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And gambling has me thinking about Michael Porter Junior, who
I'm I'm a little man.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I
love the fact that he just says what is on
his mind when he's on his mind. But he was
on one night with Stuff I Need the podcast and
he talked about sports gambling with his friends and looks
it's pretty staggering when he starts talking about the advantage
that it can create when you can just look at
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your buddies and say, hey, you know what, maybe play
the under tonight. And then you get injured, and like
your one buddy can make ten grand and another buddy
can make ten Brandon grand, and he's he's talking about
this buck, and I just I'm stunned because I cannot
believe that a player in the league doesn't understand the
systems that are in place to catch that exact thing.
(24:34):
Like if any sports but there's a national register that
looks at all bets that are placed in any sports books.
He's an unusual amount of activity being placed on the
under of Michael Porter Junior, for you know, ten thousand
dollars and there's five or six bets on it, and
they see it. There isn't a chance in hell that
doesn't get flagged. Like these are the moments that I
keep looking at everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when
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it comes to players. The fact that we're getting people
flagged all the time shows you that the guardrails are
actually working.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Let me let me hear the full or the audio
context if I could lay from the One Night with
Steiny podcast.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it. If you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand
dollars on under. You know this one game, I'm gonna
act like I got an injury and I'm I'm gonna
sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes and
they all get a little bad because you did it
one game like that is so not okay. But some
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people probably think like that. They come from nothing and
all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro, if
I if I come out of this game after three
minutes and y'all all hit on my under, we're all
getting a little bad, you know what I mean? And
I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,
Malik Beasley's going through a situation roun Now, Terry Rozier
was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling
(25:52):
like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's
only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do
get death threats.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
So that is courtesy.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny
Podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different
subcase This is a pretty pretty interesting listen. If you
haven't caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about
like dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling
on that, But is is larger point about the betting
impact going to get worse, and you know how much
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of this has detracted from the integrity of the game
or the enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional
athletes sides Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially
when you're you've got so many these these gambling entities
that are promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that,
(26:49):
and they're there are the instances are few and far between,
like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you
mentioned this earlier or if not, you've you've mentioned it
off air or in previous shows that we've done again,
other that the system is working to make sure that
we catch these things and there are very few and
far between instances that these things are actually happening. So
(27:09):
it's just are you are you smart enough to avoid
the temptation of what of what Michael Porter Junior has
just described there, Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine,
it could cost you what ten grand you could make
for you and your buddies, if you're faking an injury
and hitting you're under, or betting you're under and faking
an injury and then making sure that that under hits
(27:31):
you cost yourself so much more in the long term
as far as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it
that way? Like, I get that, and ten thousand dollars
is not an amount of money to turn your nose
up at, even if you're a professional athlete. But like
that logic to me what he's describing it, it simply
(27:51):
does not make sense, especially when you talk about the
NBA and the amount of money that even fringe like
you know, seventh or eighth guys off the bench are
making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a drop in
the bucket.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
That's that's couch cushion change.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,
there are national systems. You know, it's funny. I like
to watch old Law and Order and you know, the
like the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Original law were making law and orders.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah, yeah, you can't stick.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I haven't
gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally listened
to Law and Order every day while I'm in the gym.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't like rage music when I work out, and
so I just like to go into like a weird
spot where like I don't think. And I've watched every
episode of the old Law and Order, so I just
started season.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
One earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's
new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw
an episode from I think season four or five where
one of the new cops was having to teach everybody
how to use email and the internet because they didn't
even realize that existed.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And part of what they're starting to do in these
old seasons is say.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Hey, we can cross references person and see if they're
wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in
an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,
if you're junkie for true crime and serial killers, you'll
see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like they
would be all over the place, and because there wasn't
an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington to Florida,
(29:19):
it became really hard to catch people like Ted Bundy like,
that's because technology didn't exist the way that it exists today. Well,
now technology is such that gambling is the databases that
exists for regulation exists nationally.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
So even if.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You've got one body over here in Maine and one
body over here in Wisconsin and you're telling them to
put that ten thousand dollars out, it is going to
cause a flag. And this is where I come back to,
you know, my childhood. I grew up in Las Vegas
as a kid, and my parents were both casino managers.
And you know, I remember when we left Vegas, everybody
would always ask my parents, Like we'd be sitting around
with you know, friends and friends, family, and it was
(29:56):
always all, man, you know, casinos they cheat, don't they.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Now this is you know, post mob Era or the
mob ere a very different post mob Erera.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been
blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat
because people are stupid. And the whole point that she
constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,
and you can't cheat in a casino even if you
want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are
so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is, all you
(30:27):
gotta do is rely on people to lose self control,
and so when the advantage always goes to the house,
eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and
the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy
casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings
isn't here taking bets because most people get the best
of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand
over fist. So all of these companies are making money
(30:48):
because most people are out there just playing parlay after
parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket
that won, but they don't show you one hundred tickets
that lost over the course of the year, right, Like
that's the.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Way this whole gambling thing works.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
So for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm
gonna go make ten grand for my friend because I
have insider information at what risk, at what costs, Because
the regulations will find you and they have found them.
Like the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under
investigation is because you can't do these things without people
figuring out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So
(31:19):
if you're placing any actual dollars on any of this,
it's simply going to flag somebody. And if you're not
placing any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth
the risks. So I just think that we're turning something
that's actually being positively regulated into some sort of a
massive chaos like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes
than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,
listen as people who speaking to microphones for a living.
(32:00):
I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like
some of these, some of these conversations that are being
had by athletes where where you would never never in
a million world, in a million years, Fitzy, you know,
I do postgame locker room uh stuff all the time.
As as a beat reporter, I cover i cover a
(32:21):
team on a day to day basis.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I'm in the locker.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Room probably four days a week, and in press conference
settings like these things would never be said in front
of media that way.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And yet you know, an.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Athlete gets in a podcast setting in a situation where
they're probably surrounded by people that they trust far more
than you know, the media vultures like like myself and
things like that, and they overshare or share some of
the most bird brain stuff you've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I think I think.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That the podcast appearances and how many people have these
different platforms that will get aggregated like this far more
detrimental to to the to the to the well being
of these of these athletes than anything else, because you,
even if you believe some of this stuff, or even
(33:09):
if you are feeling this type of way, like there
is there is something to the oversharing of it that
will that will allow your words to be twisted or
or give your words more meaning than you actually intended
them to have, because your words do matter, and now
they're being documented and literally every platform. And I'm not
against people having podcasts, like I like hearing more transparency
(33:30):
from athletes. I like getting a better look at how
they actually feel, because God knows, they're not willing to
share it with a lot of us who are asking
them these questions on a day to day basis. And
and you know, most of it well intentioned. Some some
people are out to get you for clickbait. And otherwise,
but just I find it so funny that athletes are
so guarded in certain settings and then you know, they
(33:52):
sit down on a couch with a couple of sure
mics and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's
fair game and no rules apply, and logic and reason
don't actually matter here.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You forget where you are sometimes.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
The very first digital livestream show that I did at
ESPN at the time with Mina Kimes, like there was
a bunch of us for the NFL and we were
live and we were not on any sort of a
delay because we're all pros. We've all done TV and
radio and there's no big deal. Thirty seconds in, Mina
drops an F bomb because and she immediately said, she's like,
I'm so sorry, but like we were all sitting on
(34:25):
the couch to shoot, like it felt like the night
before when we were sitting on you know, Michael Ola
Junior scouch having the same conversations. This time there were
just microphones, and you forget, and that is that is
absolutely part of this. Like you get comfortable, and when
you're comfortable, you say something maybe maybe you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Could you ever imagine, as an NFL fan, or an
NBA fan, or an NHL fan or major baseball fan,
a system where, before a single game have been played,
everybody would sit down and simply, by arbitrary vote, decide
how your favorite team is ranked, which will decide how
(35:12):
your favorite team is perceived, which could decide the entire
fate of your season. All based not on a single game,
not on a single snap of football, not on a
single meaningful moment, but instead on the presumption of what
it's gonna look like. That sounds asinine, that feels stupid,
(35:32):
and it's exactly what for some reason, college football still
gives us every single year. It's two pros and a
cup of Joe. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're
in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And Buck me. Eight people came out this week. Now.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I'm a long since believer that the college football coaches
poles should not exist. Coaches that you talk to will
tell you they can't watch enough football to vote. In fact,
how are they even supposed to have the time to
watch all of the top twenty five games before they
submit their vote every week? And why are they waste
all of their time as voters just sitting there getting.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
No I gotta take a look at this number twenty unlv.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I gotta watch that game to see how I'm gonna
vote on them, Like, that's not realistic. The coach's pole
is just it should be non existent at this point.
I understand the value of the Associated Press pol at
some point, but I don't understand the value of the
Associated Press Bowl. Today, Texas is the number one team
in the country. Based on this presumption that arch Manning
is gonna come in having played two started two games,
(36:27):
he's thrown less than one hundred collegiate passes. Arch Manning
is just gonna lead them to the Promised Land. Like
the amount of guesses, the amount of sure, the amount
of throws spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks
from the ape pole is just stupid to me, And
it does weirdly impact like there. It impacts the perception
of certain teams. It impacts the way we think this
(36:48):
season's gonna go. Like I don't see any positive that
comes from the a peopole other than the hype of
being able to say, oh, Texas versus Ohio State, so
one versus A three.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Well there is that, And so the networks and the
places that put these rankings out would also benefit from
being able to have additional hype around because now you
see what the week one or yeah, the first week
of college football matchups look like. Where you've got Texas
and Ohio State, and that's it's it sells itself under
normal circumstances, but it give it a little extra juice if,
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for example, you know Texas has never been number one
in the preseason AP pole, like it again, and you
would think Brandon as big as Texas at some point,
with as much talent and as many NFL players as
have gone through that university, would be number one. It's like,
I mean, not quite as crazy as Vandy never having
been ranked in a preseason AP pole, even though Diego
Pavia will tell everybody at every turn that he's going
(37:42):
to win the national championship at a place where nobody
expects him to win a national championship and just think
it's cute. Otherwise, respectfully to the commodores. But I mean,
I enjoy the dialogue around at FITZI, even though I
understand that it doesn't actually mean and this one doesn't
actually mean anything, because I you know, I would do
away with the with the ap pole altogether if you'd
(38:04):
let me, because we do. We eventually do away with
the ape pole or devalue the a people when the
college football playoff rankings come out, and then we have
the ap pole, which doesn't matter anymore, juxtaposed against the
thing that actually matters for the purposes of seeding and
all these other things. But that's that's less sexy, that's
less conversational. And we understand that. You know, we've you
(38:27):
and I have done two hours of radio today. We'll
do another fifty six minutes based on how much time
that we have left.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
And I've got three hours to do on the local
show today.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
And you know what, We're going to talk about a
lot of college football, baby, because this is the last
weekend that we will have, the last Saturday that we
will have without college football in our lives. Praise be
to the football gods. So while the value of it,
it's just it's how much value do you actually want
to put it in you do you take the thing
(38:56):
for what it is, or do you actually want to
have serious preseason commons about the ranking of things, because
I'm sure there are Tennessee fans that are but heard
about the idea of Indiana being ranked higher than them,
and even though it's a preseason bowl, because then you're
trafficking in fan base pride, and that's a good way
to stir up conversation. It's a good way to stir
up intrigue and interest. It's a good way to get
(39:17):
people talking about, you know, programs that you might not
otherwise be talking about. Where should South Carolina is the
thirteenth best team in the country, of the thirteenth ranked
team in the country ahead of the season, actually be
ranked higher? We discounting them because South Carolina is not
somebody that we normally talk about as a college football
playoff contender. But with Leonora Sellers and the record that
they had last season and the recruiting talent that they've
(39:40):
been able to compile, they absolutely should be. Does a
university like Miami belong as high as ten with as
much turnover as they've had, even though their offensive coordinator
is saying or at least propping Carson Beckup is potentially
having another number one overall pick in his quarterback room,
which I think is a bit nonsense.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, yeah, it's just like, it's what else is
he gonna say?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Man, we paid Carson back a ton of money, and
boy does he suck.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
But yes, I hear, he's too busy cheating on a
Cavendar twin and then doing all the things that the
rest of us would probably do in our early twenties
in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
If I was if I was rich in my early
twenties in South Florida, there's there's absolutely nothing I wouldn't
be trying to put in my body and nobody wouldn't
cheat on.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So I like it. Look, I get it. I'm not.
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Look in my early twenties, that wasn't the adult that
I am now. I make sure that I do.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I think you make a Oh God, I can't bounce
back from that one. I think you make our fair point. Yeah,
that is. I set myself up for.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That about conversation though, because I will say, Look, I'm
an agent of chaos.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
College football is my favorite sport to cover, and it
is namely my favorite sport to cover because I don't
care who wins and loses. And the craziest thing about
that is that fan base is all They all got
so worked up that that's what I love. I don't
really what I need is for Alabama to be either
really great or really terrible, because either way people care. Right,
what I need is for Texas to either go out
(41:09):
and win a national championship or just get decimated and
fall off the rails, because either way people care, like
I want people to care about college football because I
love the sport. That being said, you make a good
point about the conversation. Part of the reason I've long
since been a champion of the College Football Playoff Committee
is if we simply create automatic bids where people get
into the college Football Playoff by where they finished in
(41:30):
their conference, there's no reason to talk about college football.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And you know, very real like.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Watch shows like you know across the ESPN and Fox
Sports all day watch Get Up Right, and during a
regular time of the year, is get upm gonna talk
about college football on Tuesday or Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
The answer to that is no.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
And for the first month and a half of the season,
they'll barely cover college football right.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
But the minute the college football playoffs starts.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
To come out every Tuesday night, in part because ESPN
has the broadcasting right, so that oh Man, Tuesday, there's
a national media conversation what's the committee going to do?
And Wednesday there's a reaction to it. I think that's
good for the growth of the sport it is. I've
seen the numbers and frankly, even at Yahoo where I
am now and incredible check out yah who Sports Daily
by the way, Monday through Friday, and I do eleven
(42:15):
am Eastern that's live.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Thank you. No, it's a plug. That's not a fine.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
It's a plug that you should be fine for, even
though it is excellent content that you and Caroline Fenton
are doing.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Thank you, Thank you very much. I appreciate that compliment.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Look, we look at the numbers and college football doesn't
do great ratings on podcasts, it doesn't do great rating
on national shows things like that.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Monday Tuesday, there isn't really a big appetite for it. Friday,
there isn't really a big appetite.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
I've hosted a ton of esp and college football shows
and my time when I was there and it's crazy
how many of those shows were. Hey, the ratings are
okay on Monday, but they're terrible on Friday. Like, all
of this is because college football has a hard time
cutting through the noise nationally for a lot of people,
and that's that seems crazy to everyone in the South
(43:04):
and everyone in the Midwest, but it's real to the
national perspective. I like having reasons to create a conversation,
So maybe you've changed my mind a little bit, because
you're right. We wouldn't be talking about Texas the same
way we are, but they're the preseason number one, so
it creates a conversation. I just wish there was a
way to do that without propping up false value that
can change, you know, perception biases.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, I get that, but if if there was, we
would have figured it out by now, you know what
I'm saying, Like, because it's not just cutting through the noise,
it's cutting through the NFL, and they're just one otherworldly
ability to suffocate the life out of every other sport,
even America's second most popular sport, which is of course
(43:45):
college football. I FITZI I enjoy it, and not just
because I live in the South and in Nashville, Tennessee,
where you know, we don't have great local college football,
although Diego Povey has given us some juice, you know.
I mean, if if it's Povy is like the preseason poll. Okay,
he he making a lot of noise, a lot of
(44:06):
noise for people who are unfamiliar with Diego Pavia. He's
the quarterback of the Vanderbilt Commodore's. If you're unfamiliar with
Vanderbilt Commodore football, it is famously stinky. They upset Alabama.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You like stinky. Stinky's word the buck rising lights like
I'm you know.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
It seems it seems gentler then sucks.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Out loud, which I used to describe Titan's cornerback depth
on the on the Local show yesterday.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
It just seems a bit gentler and I and I
enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I'm enjoying the Pavia, the Pavia thing, and I don't
want to denigrate him just for the sake of denigrating him,
even though I you know, his program is not to
be respected just yet, even though they're coming off a
nice season where they had one of the biggest college
football upsets we may ever see in our lifetimes. Up
upsetting Alabama in Nashville last year. But Pave is doing
a lot of talking, right He's going on Paul Finebam,
(44:51):
and he's saying that the that the standard at Vanderbilt
is national championship when it has never been the standard
at Vanderbilt, and hell winning seasons are an upset at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Bowl eligibility is an upset at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Their Twitter account put out the fact that they got
rings for their bowl game win over Georgia Tech this year,
and they were the laughing stock of the college football world,
even though that's an accomplishment for Vanderbilt. So Diego Pavia
doing a lot of talking in the preseason, it's going
to put a big old target on his back, but
it is at least going to get people interested in
Vanderbilt and following along.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Whether you're rooting for him or against him.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
You want to see him continue to talk his talk,
or you want to see him silenced because you don't
like that kind of arrogance from a player at a
program that does not historically make waves that way. So
the preseason poll is my equivalent to Diego Pavia. And
also because FITZI like I college football is a better product.
And I say that as an NFL reporter. And it's
not just because like the NFL is my job, and
(45:45):
you know, I it's it's the best.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Job in the world.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
And getting to travel all over the country and do
local radio for three hours a day, do national radio
with you, and all the different opportunities that's afforded me. Like,
I love my job and I love covering the l
but college football is way more fun, way more fun.
And to see, you know, to see people not necessarily
interested in it, because you know, in the Northeast, what
(46:11):
do they care? What are you gonna You're gonna pull
for Rutgers on a week by week basis, there's gonna
be a big galvanizing effect of the big ten power.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Rutgers and things like that.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
No, of course not. But in the Southeast and the
Midwest it is tribal this way. And the hatred, the
hatred that fuels it as a sport is delightful to me.
And the way that people will end relationships over college
football fallouts and things like that, I just find it
thoroughly satisfying. Beyond just how much more those fan bases
(46:41):
care about their programs versus the NFL, where there is
far more national attention but far less community. It feels
safe places like green Bay, Wisconsin, where there is really
nothing else to do but go to a green Bay
Packers game, which, by the way, respectfully with the city
of green Bay wildly overrated.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
The Packers games in the city of green Bay.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
There's nothing to write about about green Bay. Green Bay
is a god forsaken wasteland in the middle of nowhere.
I mean, Lambo's fine. I did a primetime game at
Lambeau a couple of years ago. It was, ironically enough,
one of the last fun Titans games I've covered. And
then the offensive coordinator got a dui afterwards because they
can't handle success.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
So I yeah, I mean it was it was fine.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
I wasn't blown away with it like I was going
to Kneeland for the first time one hundred and ten
thousand on your next screaming the entire time when they
haven't mattered on a national championship level for you know,
the previous fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
That's that's unique.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, you're right. We played the arena right next to.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Right next to Lambo several times, and every time I
was there, I was like, yeah, it's lambo, it's fine,
and you're not wrong. I think for me, it's always
a weird situation to be in that nothing moves my
soul the way watching an NFL game that I care
about does, like in a specific the Raiders for me,
but obviously like the big Sunday night football game, a
great Monday night football game, the afternoon game, like when
(48:06):
we get these Thanksgiving Chiefs Cowboys games, sort of things
like that moves my soul. But if I turn on
the TV and the only game on on the early
window where I'm at, if I didn't have the ticket
was I don't know, Jets Jags, I'm not I'm much
more likely to sit down and say, hey, this is
a terrible Missouri team taking on a terrible Buffalo team.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I watch that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
There's something about the environment about college football that to
me makes it a better watch
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