Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap the Bengals win over the Commanders on MNF, highlighted by absences from Trey Hendrickson and Brian Robinson Jr. A game of “Where Did Lee Sleep?” Joe Flacco gets tabbed the starter in Cleveland, but who gets anointed the official backup? Senior NFL Columnist for CBSSports, Pete Prisco rips all the hot takes coming out of the preseason.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar Rings and Rating Wind and Jonas Knox
on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Coming Upsteus is Man, they've changed my world.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Bro, I can't even. I can't even. There's no breaks,
bro all gas Well. Ben Maller is up in here
hyping it up. Man, he's hyping me.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Good morning, Cue, Good morning Jones, Good morning everyone out there.
Good morning. I love to hear it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm just talking about casually talking about beating Lee. He's
ass if he ever decided to try to stand up
for himself against me, That's that's that's what we were
just talking about right now, you know, I mean, least
do it. I think he's doing a tremendous job. I
don't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, you show just started. It literally just started
literally literally yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
So, but we were doing pre show shenanigans. You know,
well I was. I might have been on my own
on this one today leading Jonas walked in, didn't understand
what was going on. I was already talking to Big Ben.
Ben stirred it up. Yeah, he stirred it up a
little bit. You know, I'm going to start stuff. He
blew me off. Finish it Jesus, I'll finish it off.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you hanging out here on the iHeartRadio app
and on hundreds of affiliates all across the country, and
we'll be taking you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. And we had our
little dose of Monday night football off night. Kind of
nice to have it back. I don't know what anybody

(02:03):
took away from that game other than the Bengals were
really serious about that whole. Yeah, we're playing in the preseason.
We're tired of the slow starts like that. That's the
the impression I get that. That was the edict handed
down and they are all about it going into the
regular season this year.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
That in Mitchell Tinsley, Well you were great last night.
How about it?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Huh? I was talking mad cash to you. Cue like,
imagine if we have some receiver production. You know, Well
he was there for a year. I mean what happened
with that? I mean Casby transferring out. I told you
Lambert transferred out. To look at preseason he's had. We
didn't Tinsley transfer in.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
He might, yeah, he might. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It was all downhill from there. I remember him, I
just don't remember what what the whole story behind him.
And he's great at Western Kentucky. You know, it's a
hilltop for okay.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
He was like a guy put up a lot of
numbers in Western Kentucky. Then I think Penn State paid him,
and then he went there and it was like why
why especially against Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well he wasn't there for that. He got drafted a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, I'm just keeping the theme the same, you know,
it's just the same thing. It just gave me an
opportunity to readlive living that with I wasn't gonna bring
it up, all right, I did it. You know the
best thing to do in moments like that is to
bring it up. Bring it up first so that it's
not used against you second. You know, I learned that

(03:35):
from eminem in Eight Mile. You know, just make sure
you tell them what they are and who they are,
and what they did and what they didn't do before.
Make sure you let them know what you aren't, you know,
and what you are before they get into telling you
what you are and what you aren't to that point. Yeah,
that's all that's all speaking of. I mean, hey, Lee Hendrickson, man,

(03:57):
I mean to me, that's the storyline of the game,
you know, not not the play on the field, because,
as you guys.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Know, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't really care about what goes on on the field.
If if you look good, if everything looks nice and
all those good things, I don't care. I really don't.
I mean, Jane Daniels had a nice run. Guys had
a few nice plays out there. You know, operations look nice, good,
great for you, good for you this preseason, I don't

(04:27):
know how that plays out once the regular season starts.
Was it a so Brian Robinson Junior?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Probably not a great night for him, that's these you know,
he's on the trade block according to various reports, and
they ran.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
According to ESPN based on the broadcast, they're talking about
it like, yeah, probably not a good sign if he's
not dressing for this one.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
And and they love the running backs behind him. They
ran pretty well without him. And then I do wonder,
do you look at the not that he was known
as as a run stop or he's a pass rusher.
But do you look at since he's inability to stop
the run last night and go, yeah, another key example
of we need Trey Hendrickson and we need as many

(05:13):
good players on that side of the mass.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Not no, I'm not not in preseason, no, Bethy over,
not every Bengals game this year, bety open. Here's the thing.
One doesn't correlate to the other. The point is, like
the here's the point. The point is is that the
things that were being discussed on the telecast are relevant

(05:35):
points to be discussed. Troy Aikman was championing uh Hendrickson
like you wouldn't believe, I mean, compared them to Charles Haley.
Like if we don't have Charles Haley, we don't win
super Bowls. And this is a comparable situation, is what
Troy Aikman said.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And he's right.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
He's right, Like, listen, I understand that people love and
value the offense.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
The quarterback is the guy. We've all learned to accept that.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Everybody who doesn't play quarterback accepts the fact that that's
what it is. Most people accept the fact that the
offense is truly valued more than the defense.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
We get it. But if you don't have a defense,
name me one.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Name me one team that won a Super Bowl that
didn't have a defense and didn't have at least one
or two players that were dominant players on that defense.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
A good point. I remember seeing eleven on the field
in every Super Bowl on defense.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
What I never played for a Super Bowl and Dallas certainly.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Didn't play for. I'm saying, just eleven players, Like I
remember looking out that, Yeah, they got a defense.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
One out there, there's one out there, There is one
out there. I mean, if people don't want to value
the defender, then take them off the field and just
let these mother efforts go out there and play on air.
You know there's periods of time where they call on air.
You know, you don't have anybody out there if you
don't want to value defenders and the ones that have

(07:14):
earned the right to say, I deserve this amount of
money because my services require me to be paid market
value for what I bring to the table value wise,
and you don't want to do it, just say, y'all
don't want a defense out there. Y'all changed the freaking
rules every god dang year y'all do everything to skew
it towards the side of the offense every single year.

(07:37):
How long has football been around when they've been putting
rules in for the offense to be able to do
s too long? It's so frustrating, man. But that's why
I loved being a defender, because we are literally the
built in underdogs, no matter what team, no matter what level,
we are the built in underdogs. We're not front runners. Don't,

(08:00):
I don't. We don't go to the offensive side. We
are in the trenches.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
We do it.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
We do it the way that that the special Forces
do it like.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
They get it in, get it in and get out,
get the mission accomplished, and get out. That's who we are.
And I'm glad that Troy Aikman, of all people, a quarterback,
was singing the praises of Hendrickson in terms of him
being compensated fairly for the situation.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Have you guys called preseason games before?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I've noticed something with these national broadcasts, uh Joe so yeah,
Joe Davis and Greg Olsen calling the game the night
before Bears Bills, and it just feels like the broadcasters
can be maybe a little.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Bit more honest and blunt with some of their.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Assessments, because Greg Olsen at one point was like, yeah,
we were talking to Ryan Poles about Luther Burden and
you know, probably shouldn't say this, but you know, I'm
going to I don't care. And then Treyikman last night
is just letting it fly every once to Joe Buck,
same thing. And I don't know if there's just sort
of this more relaxed atmosphere or you know, whether it's

(09:08):
you have free reigns.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
To say it how it is, it's just it feels
like a different vibe. Well, listening to those broadcasts.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think about the timing of these games. I mean,
there's a lot of more business still being done, and
I think that's one of the biggest differences is you
can you're I mean there's businesses as far as the
roster goes, there's business as far as trades go. There's
a lot of things that they can discuss that aren't
centered purely around football. I mean, the conversation I have
the time. I think Laura Rutledge did like a ten

(09:36):
minute interview with Joe Burrow last night. What if and
I were watching, She's like five questions for a sideline reporter.
You go, yeah, she's like, this is taking forever. I
was like, yeah, it's kind of like a free flowing
thing over here. But it just the games have an
entirely different feel because it's not just about the football.
At times, it's not about the football at all, whereas

(09:57):
the NFL regular season, it's all about ball, it's all
about what this means for that game, that team, their season,
everything else. It doesn't really have as much to do
about the business of it. So I think that's where
it's different. You know, you've got guys who actually have
the opportunity to not do a you know, three hour
studio show, but it sounds more like that because you're

(10:19):
talking about more of those sorts of topics. So I
understand what you're saying. I think, you know what, what
interested me the most was you. We didn't have you know,
Tom Brady and Burkhart out there. It was Joe Davis
and Greg Oldson.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's too busy being an owner. Maybe the clock he's
got to call games at some point, Maybe the clock
is ticking. Maybe it's going to open up for you,
you know what I mean, like should have opened up
for you.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Anyway, I was reminded. I was reminded last night. I
think eight Ben and Buck are the best in the business.
Listening listening to them last night, I was just like
this flows They're easy to listen to. I love, you know,
listening to Troy talk about you know, what he sees,
how he sees it, you know, you know, giving you
the why of what's going on. I really did enjoy that.

(11:07):
It's you get away from the games, you know, you're
in the off season, we have our conversation about what's
going on, and then and I don't know if you
guys feel the same way, but when you get back
to the games and you hear like two of the
best to do it, I think it does make it enjoyable. Yeah,
it makes it enjoyab their besties.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
It made it's that and it made Monday night football
more watchable again because whatever whatever combination they were thrown
out there, and this is not a shot at Steve
Levy I think is great and the stuff he does
with the NHL is fantastic, but whatever combination they were
thrown out there wasn't working, and it hadn't worked since
John Gruden walked away. Gruden was really the last great

(11:46):
broadcaster on Monday and then and they just kept shuffling
in these different combinations. Remember, Booger McFarlane was on some
sort of like like hot like scaffolding.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
He was like some some palette.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
The best part about that was is he is on
that like roving cart.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's people got so mad that they had to put
a TV on the back side of it to show
the game because we like the the levels of ridiculousness
that went along with the Booger McFarland part and being
in Monday night football was unbelievable, and it's just.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's like, hey, how are we going to how are
we going to fix the ratings here? I don't know,
Throw Booger on a pallette jack and put a put
a Westinghouse on the back and see if that'll make
everybody happy. And really all they needed to do was
get credibility in the broadcasting booth.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
They've got it, and it's significantly.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
That circus, Like what a circus that was. I mean,
I can I can honestly say to you, I used
to watch those games on mute for such a long
period of time because it was so bad. It really
was just so bad for so long, I watch games
on mute. I watch the games on mute, and that's fine,

(13:05):
like a lot of people do. But I'm saying when
there are when there is a good broadcast crew, it
makes the game more enjoyable. I'll say, really, do get
a benefit from them?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I will say this if I respect who's calling the game.
I watch the game and be like, huh, this is
an interesting storyline that's developing. And I like to see,
like if I in my mind I'm watching the game
and I'm calling the game in my head, like, Okay,
this is what they're they're trying to do. This is
what the defense is trying to do, this is what

(13:34):
the offense, this is what this team came in here
to do. It looks like that. This is what this
team came in here to do. It looks like that.
And then I like to like, at a certain point,
listen to see if if I'm relating, if they're saying
things that I'm thinking, just to see how far off
I may be with them, or how close I am
to what they may or may not be saying.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I do do that.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I do comparisons, but I don't know, like for the
entertainment value. I listen to music. Well, I'm watch the
games man because.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You like the party.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
You like the party, party hardy, you know what I mean,
like one hundred not party like that much. I mean,
was that smoking or was that sniffing? Okay, all right,
I about to say I'm not a sniffer. I'm definitely
not that that cocaine cowboy, no booger sugar or anything like.

(14:27):
I don't do the two sie, Nope, don't even do cigarettes.
Never done any of that stuff. But you know, I
do have dread locks for a reason. So I was
just gonna say.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That, Hey, but look, I'm gonna go back to my
original point. Biggest, the biggest storyline of the game one,
nobody of note got hurt. For one.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's that's really all that really matters in these games.
He got slammed on his head, and I'm sitting there like, god, dang,
imagine if that dude stayed down like to what.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Was it, Joe Buckle.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's like, hey, hey, Joe, get down to August. Jayden's running,
you know, and he's running, so nobody got hurt, all right,
So there's no harm, no foul there. And Trey Hendrickson.
What is what does I don't know how many people,

(15:20):
I don't know what the ratings were. I don't know
what the fallout of it would be, But to get
such a glaring endorsement from from Troy Aikman saying, I
don't I don't know what. I'm not saying what they
need to do with their dollars, But I just know
this team, in my mind, can't win unless they have

(15:40):
Hendrickson on their team playing. And they just kept showing
them and showing him and showing him and continuing to
talk about him and showing him. I just wonder does that,
I mean, do the franchises feel the pressure of something
like that. Maybe they don't even care. Maybe it's not
even something they pay attention to, because whatever their plan

(16:02):
is going to be is going to be. But I mean,
I thought that was gonna done.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
This deal is gonna get done. It sounds like they're
close that they're close on average annual value, they're close
on duration, they're just far off on guarantees. And you know,
it's it's always funny, man like people are so sensitive
on social media. You know, we had the conversation about
Cincinnati being cheap you are cheap, and they're like, well
you can. You should your house as an example, because

(16:28):
I'm like, you're not listening to the point, dude. Jimmy
Haslm's trying because he puts a lot of money into
a lot of the best players that they have to
worry about their best Edge Rusher. Someone on social media
tell me, do they have to worry about Miles Garrett
or do they pay them? Yeah, they gave him one
hundred and sixty million dollar contract about fifty nine million
at signing, so they don't have to worry about Miles Garrett.

(16:50):
You do if you're a Bengals fan, and people think
it's because like, oh, you're a Browns fan, It's like, no,
it has nothing to do with that. This is as
objective as it gets. And I keep going back to
the funding rule because I'm trying to educate people out
there who don't understand how this works. This is why
there's an issue with Trey Hendrickson's contract. When these owners,

(17:10):
when they sign these players to a big guarantee and
if they're far apart in the guarantee, here's why. Look
at Nick Bosa's deal. It was two years ago. It
started he got eighty eight million guaranteed at signing. Okay, TJ.
Watt's most recently got one hundred and eight million. Well,
when they sign those contracts, all right, every guaranteed dollar

(17:34):
after the first year has to get thrown into ESCRO.
So that money is out of your pocket, it's into
an account. I mean, that's a that's a big dollar amount,
and these owners don't want to have to do that.
Imagine if someone told you you had to do that
for your job. Ah, well, you know, we've got some
guarantees in here, so we're going to take some money out.

(17:55):
We have to throw in this ESCRO account and you
don't get to earn any interest off it or anything.
Hundreds of millions of dollars in some cases, like TJ. Watts.
So the problem is you have Bosa's deal, who signed
a guarantee two years ago for eighty eight million, and
he's thinking, all right, well I should you know. Hendrickson's like, well,
my deals, you know, more recent I should at least

(18:17):
get that in two years of guarantees. I mean, the
average annual value for Watts deal was I don't know
what forty one. So do you two years Let's say
that's eighty two million, you think like you should at
least get somewhere in that vicinity of over eighty million
fully guaranteed. It's signing right. Obviously, the Bengals don't think that.
Josh heinz Allen was over seventy five million and guarantees.

(18:38):
Brian Burns was seventy five million. Max Crosby his deal
was done more recently, that was only at sixty two
point five. So I'm sure it's closer to that number
than it is where you know, Brian Burns and who
did his deal last year. Heinz Allen did his deal
last year, Bosa two years ago. I mean, I'm sure
that's what this is is they're so far apart in

(19:01):
what the agent and Hendrickson are saying where they're like, dude,
I've out produced all those guys and you're not willing
to invest in me at least for the next two
years and give me somewhere north of that, you know,
seventy five million and guaranteed number. Yeah, this is tough
to sign then, because the guarantees are really all that matters.

(19:22):
If there is no guarantee in these contracts, these owners
can rip them up and move on in a heartbeat.
So that's if that's the crux of the issue. I
do think they'll figure it out because human nature for
a lot of these players is if someone's throwing i
don't know, say seventy million guaranteed for this extension, it's

(19:44):
hard to pass that up. You know, for players it's
so different than what it is to these owners, but
it's hard to pass that up. So hearing the duration,
the averaging all that they will eventually get this done,
feel like.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It would be very, very, very entertaining. I hate to
say it at the expense of the player, but it
would be very entertaining to see if look, we made
our offer. We don't have to make an offer. We
don't need to make an offer. You're under contract and
you're gonna play out your contract that you signed and

(20:22):
we're not budgeting on that. Maybe we talk about it
during the year whatever, woofed thee woo, But for now
you're playing. At some point, there's going to be and
you could be hitting on a Q. It might not
be the number, it's the guarantees within the number, we're

(20:46):
not guarant we will not doesn't fit our business model
to start fully guaranteeing contract. We will not do it.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
We will what bro what You're not getting a guarantee
contract either, player?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, I just want to say this.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Can we play a game real quick? Oh god? Can
I get some game show music? Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Gosh, Okayrena tak it?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Lorena? Yeah? Job, all right, Hey, it's time for Where
did Leida laughs sleep last night? I mean that's the
story of the show. I'm surprised you didn't stay with it.
Did you sleep at home?

Speaker 6 (21:35):
League define home everywhere?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, that is what a homeless person would say. Home
is where the heart is.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Home is where your head was.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Did you take a shower yesterday at any point in time?
I took a couple of showers yesterday, A couple. I
took a couple of showers, like splash bath showers, like
defined shower.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, not nothing, not the sink shower.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I took a real shower, real shower. Hold on, hold on,
I was just saying, and not a public shower, not
like was it a publish or something. Was it a
public shower?

Speaker 6 (22:05):
No, it was my own. It was my own. I
was back back in my own abode.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Was it a bath house?

Speaker 6 (22:11):
No shelter?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Dan could have been homeless shelter.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yeah, I can always go to the gym and go
to take the gym shower.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
No, hey, what gem is it?

Speaker 6 (22:21):
The twenty four hour?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Twenty four hour? Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
All right, yeah, what a place? I mean, that's a
clean shower.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
It's hour better than others.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Can you explain again for some listeners who were not
here yesterday? Why again are you not sleeping in your
own bed?

Speaker 6 (22:35):
I might have had a little two fun of a
night on Saturday?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
What does that entail? Can you help us understand what
two fun of a night would be for mead to out?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well?

Speaker 7 (22:44):
I went to my buddy's film screening, had a few
drinks with the celebratory drinks with my buddy for the
debut of his film, and then I capped it off
with a little closing down of the good night bar,
gave a gave another friend right home from the bar.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then what time does that close down?

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Two am here on the West coast?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Okay, So so the screening was at what time? Like seven?

Speaker 7 (23:05):
I was at seven thirty, so it ended around ten
h four hours.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, you just wasn't around? Yeah, yeah, just what? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (23:13):
And then and then I followed it up by hanging
out with mister Todd after the after the closing up.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Was a part of this? Oh yeah, right, there's a
jealousy there with Todd. I think it's part of the issue.
And then I didn't was he with you for this hour?

Speaker 6 (23:26):
No? Oh no, you got to ask.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
To watch it back.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean they're both on the same side of his back.
Let's stay on track, stay on truck, let's go, let's
go back down this winding road. What was the movie
about again?

Speaker 7 (23:44):
What was this debut for Jimmy and Stiggs by Joe
Bagos and Eli Roth presents it's basically a Uh, it's
basically a failed filmmaker goes into a drug spiral and
then uh.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Aliens and the alien the autobiography, and then aliens make
their way to have.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Aliens try to abduct him and then it turns into bloodbath?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
What was this a biopic of that? Look, I don't
know anything about the film industry. There's probably a lot
of people in these like flyover states as you call them, Lee,
that don't either help us understand. Is this a common occurrence?
Like they probably have, you know, movie debuts all the time,
because there's all sorts of crap films that like when
I'm flying or I look like you see them everywhere,

(24:29):
you know, So does this happen that often? Uh no?

Speaker 7 (24:32):
I mean it was a good break for him that
it got a theatrical release only limited, you know, big
cities like Los Angeles and maybe a few on the
East Coast.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So is it potentially only in Los Angeles?

Speaker 6 (24:44):
It could potentd you know, I meant to.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
I did look it up, but I didn't find an
exact answer on how many screens a debuted. I mean,
it's here are using it's here out at Universal Studios
in Burbank, uh okay, which.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
The theatrical release is kind of loose, you know. I
mean people do adult films and they go out there viral,
So it's like, is this really that big of a deal.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
It was that Quentin Tarantino's movie Theater they did a
thirty five millimeter print there, so that was that was
a big deal.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
But couldn't anyone who's having a released on the print
blow hard?

Speaker 7 (25:13):
Uh No, you got to make the deal happen. Eli Roth,
who's friends with Quentin Tarantino. It's his first debut film
for his new production company called the Horror Horror Section.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Who's Eli Roth?

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Eli Roth? You recognize him? He was like saying, the
glorious Bastards. He plays the bear. He did movies like Hostile.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
He does a lot of big so.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
He funded really he funded.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
No, actually, Joe funded the whole thing himself. Eli picked
it up for distribution.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Distribute, which it doesn't sound like it's being distributed very well.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Well it's a limited distribution.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Did you sleep alone last night?

Speaker 7 (25:47):
I always sleep alone, but dang, I got my own
I got my own setup.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
But I did sleep sleep there?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
What she actually?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know what? Yeah? She was there?

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah we had Yeah, Well where did she sleep?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
If you slept alone?

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I got two beds in my spot, so you know,
so she was, Oh, y'all sleep in separate rooms?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
We do sometimes? Yeah, because I snore her a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
We used to.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
It's more of a snory into situation.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
There is that induced by drinking or just in general.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Probably poor health and my uh weight fluctuation. Sometimes it's
better and worse than others.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
You know, some days were better.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
So what was she so mad? A?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Now?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Just because you were you were out late drinking and
that's that's why.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
I didn't come back till the next day.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
So she thinks she could just run a muck on
what she does to you, But you can do it
back to her. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Hey man, sometimes I take that kick. Sometimes I don't.
I enjoy getting kicked out.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Thought, did you just say you didn't come back so
this sold on? You closed down the good night? Your
story kind of ended there. Well, did you say you
didn't come back home to the next day? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Like probably.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Do you ever meet chicks like while you're out doing
these things, like when you're running a muck and drinking
and hanging with Todd, Like do y'all like mac on hoes?

Speaker 5 (26:59):
No?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Not really. I mean I could if I wanted to,
But no, I'm not that kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I would say based on what I've seen videos there,
I mean least sent us videos of like his adventures
with with Todd and they were trying to get a
little duckies out of a machine like most like if
if story ever Lorenda, if you saw like dudes trying

(27:27):
to get duckies with a claw machine at that point,
and you're like, okay.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
See there's people that that are in on that man,
I'm telling you Todd did blow a hot.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Date by taking her to the Duck Machine. That was
that was on him. I'm not gonna I'm not even
blew a hot date.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
What exactly did you mean bad at that?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
One of those show problems like, well, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
What you said? He scored a hot date?

Speaker 7 (27:53):
And uh, he decided to have the first date to
take her to go see the Duck Machine.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
And uh, I don't think you see.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
It's an attraction, it's a it's well, it's around, it's
it's it's it's near the theater.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I think they went for a movie in.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
A let's get her into the duck Machine. See if
we could get some hell.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Wow, it's like it's like winning a girl something at
the claw Machine.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Girls love that stuff. Really, zero love the Claw Machine.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Girls do, Yeah, they do. I don't believe you, Lorena.
I just believe you're supporting Lee.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
But I also think that Lorena put on the title
for their little stream Yard deal because it says Lee
and Lorena doesn't say just Lee because we can't see Loraino.
We can only see Lee. Yeah she is okay.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm in the corner though.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Hi Oh God.

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Speaker 4 (29:37):
By the way, Sports, Yeah, I was I was trying
to tell you guys. I was trying to tell you
guys this. Nobody wanted to listen. You guys were trying
to push Kenny Pickett and Chador and Dylan Gabriel, whatever
Browns propaganda you wanted to push. And I was telling
you the whole time Joe Flacco was going to be
the starting quarterback. And guess what, He's now been named
the start of for Week one and and he's going

(29:59):
to be playing in the preseason this final preseason game?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Did he say did he mention who the backup is?

Speaker 5 (30:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
See, I would want to know, like you gave us
the obvious, that's captain obvious. I want to know who
the backup is. That's what I want to know. Who
is the backup? And if it's not one Kenny Pickett,
what happens with Kenny Pickett? And and then who is
the guy that's the backup? Now that's the bigger one.
Who do you project out to be the backup? Que Jonas?

Speaker 9 (30:30):
Who?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yah? Who y'all projecting to be the backup? I think
it's gonna be one of the rookies. And I think
it's because I think there's someone's gonna deal for Kenny Pickett.
You know, there's a lot going on right now. If
you go read on Pro Football Talk, you'll see Mike
Floya probably just running another article about bashing Joe Milton,
no idea why he's doing that. He feels like he's

(30:51):
going to be out of his way to bash Joe Milton.
I know he hasn't had a good preseason, but like
for anyone who's seen Joe Milton throw football, I mean,
it's it's something else. He has got a absolute cannon
for an arm. He's gigantic, he's athletic, he's got all
the tools, and you'll see enough plays where you go, okay,
if this guy can put it together like it's going

(31:13):
to be something ridiculous. And he doesn't have much experience.
So I'm not sure why Mike Floya is being so
hard on Joe Milton and the Dallas Cowboys backup situation.
But they could be a potential suitor. You know, you
look kind of through what could happen with cousins who's like,
you know, hanging in the wings. You know, as far
as Atlanta and their situation, there's just there's a number
of places that there could be an injury. But be

(31:36):
if they're looking at the quarterback situation to say we
feel like we need a guy and come here. I
mean Minnesota from the up and down reports of JJ McCarthy.
That might be another team where you say, all right,
I want to bring someone in behind, and we feel
like could maybe coming in play if McCarthy can't get
it done. So I kind of feel like one of
those guys is going to get moved. And if you're

(31:57):
looking at those teams out there, they probably want to
go who's got some experience, who's more of a veteran,
not a rookie. So I think it's gonna be one
of the rookies. Is the backup? I think both and
I've said this the entire time. The color Dylan Gabriel,
you're riding the fence.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm not riding the fence, but you butt Scooching on
that fence.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Bro I'll go. I think Dylan Gabriel probably be the
back out there. Twins wins and I think will make
the roster. And you've been trying to cut them this
entire time, just admitting Ny Picket sold them. Kenny Pickett sold.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Them, Kenny Pickett sold him.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He sold them out all the way out.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
If Kenny Pickett comes in, stays healthy and does something
with himself, then you're.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
You're blaming this on Kenny Picktt.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm not blaming anything on anybody. I'm just what I'm
saying to you is blame the quarterback. I see it's
a numbers game. If you ask me the numbers game, that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Game.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I'm just telling you, why would you take all Right,
you're gonna put one of them on the practice squad?
How are you going to protect How are you going
to protect protection Doris Sanders on your practice squad.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You're paying what you would be a regular season, a
regular salary.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Somebody can take them off the practice squad.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
They can, but the incentive used to be if they're
paying them a practice squad salary, you're able to pay
them the same salary you would be for if they're on.
How do you protect them from getting taken from the
practice squad? You put them on the roster. Like I've said,
you're the one that keeps saying they're gonna cut them.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm saying, if you're gonna put them on the practice team,
which that's what you're insinuating, because.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
You know I'm not. You're saying, carry all four quarterbacks.
I think Kenny Pickett's gonna get that deal. They'll either
they'll either carry four or they're gonna trade picket.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
That is blasphemous for to carry four quarterbacks and you're
already paying one you five quarterbacks that you're paying technically six.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Tell Hunt is still there too.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, but that's that is that's how he's gonna get
He's gonna they're gonna cut him. They're gonna cut him. Now,
the question is, what are you doing if if and
I'm just saying this is based off of the original,
I'm not trying to cut the door Sanders. I'm saying
it's a numbers game. Why are you trying to cut
the door?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Sanders? With these numbers game?

Speaker 3 (34:23):
The numbers game says that whoever is the fourth man
is the is the odd man out. It used to
be the third guy was the odd man out. You
didn't carry three quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You carry two and if you brought a guy in,
if you brought a guy in, you brought.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
A guy in, and you got a guy on the
practice squad.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
But you carry two quarterbacks four four, that's unheard of.
Why are you trying to cut him? I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, but what would the fallout be? All right
if one of them got cut?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
All right? So call your shot. Who's the backup?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Week one? Who's the backup?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, I don't. It has to be Dylan Gabriel sticks picks. Yeah,
and and not not for anything else other than he
was drafted higher.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
That's what I'm saying. Like, it's not because he's better
than Shador, because he's not. He's not better.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
In fact, if you're asking me who should start, shaedor
Sanders should be starting, just go ahead, start Shador Sanders.
You're because you're on a road to nowhere with Joe
Flacco starting.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
By the way, it's not that far back that the
Browns didn't keep four quarterbacks on their active roster. They
did in twenty twenty three, by the way, they had Watson, Winston,
dri and Thompson Robinson and Tyler huntin.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, on a a roster.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yes, that's what I'm trying to say to you. How
many how many?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know you know I love you. But there are
these are the sort of things where you'll say like
these wild claims and they're not actually look anything up.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I just know what I know.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I know what I know what you know, and I
know what you don't know, just because what I remember
the Brown or the Browns. We're talking.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
They just said this two years ago.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
They two years ago.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
They stink. That's why I do it.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Your entire your entire claim that Shador says is going
to get cut is because it's a numbers game that
you're saying. They literally just did this two years ago.
It's the Browns. Okay, but that goes against everything. It
goes against everything you say.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
It doesn't make it that that's the who's the backup?
Find another take up? Find another team? Find find at
least three get back that I don't look than you
got you got Dylan gave.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
That.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
The Commandos did it thirteen.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I wouldn't even know if you're right.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
The Jets, the Raiders back when they were the Red
can Community to twenty thirteen, they've got four all teams
that stink.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
I bet you they was in and out the door.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
How long did the facts, I'm sorry of.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
How long did they keep those four quarterbacks on the
team during the season. I would have to have more
time to Oh, now you need more time. Groc isn't
taking up the time for you? Just put it in groc.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I am tell you it's not that good. Tell them
to tell you hear it. I want to ask tap dance.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
So you got au, so you got Dylan Gabriel. Brady's
got Dylan Gabriels purely because Kenny Pickett boned them and
Dylan Gabriel is the third round draft pick. Like I said,
if it's me, I started the door Sanders. We like
they won. If anything, if it goes you went from
cutting into now No, I've been said that, I've been said.

(37:56):
I'm on record, I'm on record of saying they should.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Just start them. I've been on record.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I'm saying numbers game wide.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
What record you from cutting him to that stock. I
can send you the link. I can send you the link.
I'll send you.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I will, I will, I will send it to you.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I have never give me. I've never heard you one.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
You might have been on vacation, que you might have
maybe you might have not been.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
When did you sway back the other round about you?
I never sent to seventy anywhere.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
There's there's reality versus opinion and perception. My perception and
opinion was they should just start Shador Sanders. Now the
reality of it is is that he's a fifth round
draft pick, and he's the fifth quarterback on their roster
the fifth fifth one two three four fifth fifth fifth.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You give me, then, who you think of the backup
is going to be instead of just fence like you are.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I am riting, no, very critical. I'm not writing no fence.
My booty is fine. My feet are on the ground
ten toes down, I said Dylan Gabriel. I want to
be the backup you got, Dylan Gabriel, Yes, because because
can he Pickett boned him.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
J just did you make a pick? Not yet? And
we'll go ahead. I think I'm ready to do it.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
The Browns backup quarterback Week one. Here we go, mister obvious,
he's there we go, Here we go. He's looking for
real creative. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
We'll be Dylan Gabriel knocks locks.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Hey, why aren't you guys, Why aren't you guys on TV?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I don't know, I don't know. I was just cocking
your pump. So it was I was.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
By the ways, Kenny Pickett even practiced, Like, what's the
last time Kenny Pikett practiced. He's like this hamstring in
trees at.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Don't you have a theory on all this? I thought
you had some sort of.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Theory what did I have a about? Oh, I know
it is about Matthew Stafford. I had a theory about
Matthew Stafford. I think matt that kind of went by
the way side.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
The practiced yesterday.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Yeah, but when did the injury happen? That's what I
want to know. Everyone's like, oh, he's old. Yeah, okay,
but all of a sudden, I ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I can tell you from from experience that when they
say disc and and anything, you hear what degenerating and
all that stuff, it ain't going nowhere. I think something
happened in Maui. That's what I think. I think.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I think that little Maui Rams, Maui camp. He's like,
if you if you look at the timeline, all of
a sudden something went down, whether it was the flight
back home. Petros has told us about the Clayton Kershaw
back issues that started because of a flight they took
to Australia. Something happened in Maui, and the whole side
of their story and the way that they've discussed this

(40:52):
whole thing just sounds weird. The whole thing seems odd
to me, and it seems like that's going to be
an issue moving forward. That's what I would say. That's
my theory. Something happened to MAUI for Matthew Stafford as
far as the Browns go, I mean, you know, what
does it matter. I mean, Kenny Pickett asn't practiced. You
got Dylan Gabriel and shad Or Sanders and Joe Flacco's there.
I just hope Flacco gets through this final preseason game

(41:16):
and he can make it to Week one and be healthy.
Like I just hope, because that's the other aspect of
this whole.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Thing, Like, you know, he is an older player.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And okay, but he's not gonna play. I mean they've
already kind of said.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, but he's going to play the final preseason game.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, but it will be like a few Staffs.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Would why would he even play him to begin with,
Like at this point it's the last one, Just start
him week one. He probably doesn't need the reps, Like
why even why play him?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Now? Maybe he wants the reps.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Well, it's going to be the most watched depth chart
death depth oh, depth chart.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Reveal in the NFL. I mean it could be a
death or two. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, some people going
down off of this. Yeah, Yeah, careers, careers dig gone.
By the way, you want to know the door Sanders

(42:16):
about to kill y'all career You want to know the
the lock of.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Week about to kill them? Added here, by the way,
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the five and a half. Courtesy of our friends on DraftKings.
What's this link you sent?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
You saw what I sent y'all, y'all screenshots. I'll send
y'all a link to just so y'all clear. Yeah, I'm
not a hypocrite. I's it. If I own the team,
you can't trust AI.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
That's approkay. Hey, here's the problem. You want me to
really do this right now?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Live?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Okay. According to a published report by iHeart dot Com
on May twenty twenty five, LeVar Arrington stated that he
doesn't see uch door Sanders makes the Brown's roster. That's correct.
I started the season, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Okay, But if you look at what the headline says.
If I own if the Browns, he would have started Shador.
I would have named Shador Sanders.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
You have you have flip flopped around this subject. Yes,
you have. You a fish out lots you've been flopping around.
I am not a fer everywhere.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
You're like flailing.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You've been like leaving at a late night in New Orleans.
We all saw it. Jas was there Jonas after a
few hurricanes. I mean it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I mean some hurdles you go over, so some you
go under. You know, that's just what it is. I'm
clearing them. Some are over, some are under. I'm saying,
if I own the Browns, I named Shador Sanders the
starter today. He's your best quarterback on your roster. I
don't care about all the other details and elements. I

(44:15):
start them today because you're not going anywhere with Joe
Flacco except for he's a rental. He's a rental QB.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
A QB.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
He's a rental QB. He don't even carry a gun.
He can flashlock, flashlight QB. He's gonna mag like that. Yes,
start Sador Sanders, make Dylan Gabriel your backup, and cut bait.
With the rest of them done done, you don't have
to explain to anybody why he went in the fifth round.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
He's he fell to the fifth round. Whatever, Moving on,
He's the best quarterback on your roster. If I'm the
owner of the team, start that man today.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
But I'm not so.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
If I'm looking at it from a perspective of here's
a logical perspective, it is Shador Sanders is a fifth
round draft pick on a team that already has three quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I had a who looked better, Brady Shadoor or Dylan
Gabriel in their preseason appearances.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I would say it's very similar. I mean, the only
difference was, you know that Shador used his legs a
little bit more. He had a ball that should have
been picked. It wasn't. You know. Dylan had one play
that was picked end up gotten taken back, and quite honestly,
you know, again you don't know unless you're in the
med season. Well there's that, but also you know, for

(45:39):
the Chador one, I don't know if the receiver is
running the wrong run. I didn't look like it. It
looked like the guy kind had to beat on the
ball is a bad decision. But on Dylan Gabriels, it
was like, all right, you know, you got your flat
route bleeding upfield, get your crossing route converging. There really
shouldn't have been a throw there made by Dylan Gabriel,
so that's on him. But again there were rookies they're learning.

(45:59):
I say they both played like equally really well.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I mean, nor Sanders ball placement on two of those
passes was nothing short of and I know it sounds
like I'm like on him or whatever, but they were
nothing short of phenomenal ball placement.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Well, no, it was accurate. I mean, dude, go back
and watch every stack. I always watch every throw of
all these guys. I thought Dylan Gabriel was equalis impressive
with ball placement, like out front where it needs to be,
even the short intermediate passes. The other thing got Stay
two in his favor. It was a lot of third
down conversions, which is more of like that measuring stick
when you're talking about comparing quarterbacks is like can they

(46:36):
move the chains on third down? And he was able
to do that. So I thought both quarterbacks showed out
really well. It's one of the reasons why I feel
like there's a good chance that both are on the
active roster. Dylan probably as the edge and will be
the backup. But I think Pickett's going to look for
an opportunity somewhere else, and whether it's they release him

(46:57):
or they try to trade him. Either way, there might
be another that's looking for a veteran guy that we
have see where his health's at. But I could see
that potentially being the case.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Did Man Walking? You want to see a whole bunch
of twelve jerseys and a whole bunch of tan sports
the door, Did Man Walking?

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Speaker 4 (47:22):
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Speaker 2 (47:37):
Pete, good morning, what's up guys?

Speaker 5 (47:40):
That was the vacation?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Good morning, Pete? It was nice, p it was nice.
I wish I was still vacationing.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Did you go anywhere fun?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
No, I didn't need to just homesteady, Pete, where did you.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Vacation when you need a break Caribbean any or is
there a special spot this year?

Speaker 5 (48:02):
I Rube is the special spot. Yeah, I love a Rube.
I've gone about twenty times. I love it.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Is that? Is that the origin of your base tan?
Is that why you got that nice olive skin?

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I can I can actually tell you this, brady as
tan as I am. When I first went to Aruba,
the sun was so hot. I got torched. I mean
like just torched, because you have you're so close to
the equator, but not only that, it's just such a
hot sun and the wind blows so you don't really
feel it. You don't even realize you're getting that torch.

(48:34):
So yeah, one year I left and the you know,
they we were leaving, and so the locals came up
and said, oh my wife, they go your tan is
unbelievable to her, And they didn't even acknowledge mine because
I think they thought I lived there.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Tang, Thanks Pete. That's a hell of a tan.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Then, oh, I when I get dark, I get really dark.
I'm golden brown. I've seen You've seen it. You only
see me at this you see me at the super Bowl.
Though I'm usually pay out at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Oh well that is wow? Then yeah, you get darker
than that, darker?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Oh yeah, but darker. Wow. Okay, what's up bro? Yeah,
what's up home? I mean, he's just a lighter than
me when I see him bowl. It is what it is? Hey, Pete,
why was Joe Burrow playing last night?

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Well, okay, maybe you play the first drive, but why
were you playing the second drive? I mean, to me,
that's just risking it. I don't mind the guy going
down the field playing the first drive getting some work
in because you got to have three weeks before you
play again. I get it, but why put him back
out there for a second drive? That makes no sense
to me? And yeah, I don't I'm with you, Brady,

(49:45):
I don't. I don't understand that. I mean, he goes
down there, dut is that simple? I don't. You know.
There's some of the veteran players can play. I get that,
but Joe Burrow shouldn't be playing past one drive, and
if it's a successful drive like it was, he certainly
shouldn't be playing.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I mean, their defense wasn't crazy dominant last year, but
I mean, I think the season is done if they
don't get Trey Hendrickson signed.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
He'll show up, they all show up, He'll play. I
mean every every week we do this, and every week
all the analysts go on every show across the country
and they say, Oh my gosh, can you believe this?
It's unreal what they're offering.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Hey, Pete, can you believe this? They have not signed
Trey Hendrickson yet to a deal.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Can you believe this?

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, I believe it, But I'm not doing it. I'm
not like every other analyst out there who does the
negotiation for the for the agent, I mean the agent.
They listen, did I tell you that James Cook was
going to come in? And what did he come in
at twelve million a year? Just like I said he would.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I mean, so we'll call your shot then, Pete, what
is what is Trey Hendrickson's deal going to be?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
What's what are you looking at?

Speaker 5 (50:54):
The deal's going to average close to the forty or
at the forty. But it's just a matter of the
structure of the deal. That's what he wants. Guarantee you
they'll figure it out. Yeah, they'll figure it out. They'll
I guarantee. I'm saying he gets a new contract before
the season. Michah Parsons will get a new contract, probably
the week of the open of the season, and Terry
mccorum will get a new deal. They'll all play. And

(51:14):
here's the other part of the equation. They all have
a year left on their deals. That's like when people
put out there he's going to sever ties with the
Dallas Cowboys. Michael severed times how he's under contract for
this year and they could tag him the next two years.
He can't sever ties for three years. That's not his decision.
So ultimately.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
They wouldn't jump to the table in trade.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
I mean, are the Cowboys going to trade him?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I mean, was to trade him? It would be foolish
to play them. But I mean some would say it'd
be foolish to be in a situation you're currently in here.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Here's the problem with Trey Hendrickson. Okay, let's let's push
parts to side. But let's start with Trey Henderson. He
was on the market, he was being peddled in April
May anybody. Nobody made a deal for him then. So
now you're later in the process, and now they're asking
for a defensive starter, a first round pick, and so

(52:08):
you give up all that, and you're paying Trey Hendrickson
forty million dollars a year for a guy who's thirty
years old.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Who's going to run to the table to that time.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Pete, why were you in England? Pete?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Why why were you going back and forth with somebody
on social media following Dylan Gabriel's pick six, like are
you being I feel like you're being put in the
Dylan Gabriel camp and they're trying to create a divide
between Gabriel and shod or saying wow, in this whole competent,
I'm not neither.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
I'm not neither one of those camps. But somehow, some
way lost in all this stuff is the fact that
Keny Savanski and this coach's death must really be stupid
because oh my gosh, how dare they have Shador Sanders
at number four? Well, just because he did okay in
the preseason game doesn't necessarily mean he should be number

(53:02):
one or two or three or four or three, because
they had a whole body of work in the offseason
to watch the guy. So we just discount that work
based on one preseason game. Because the fans saw the pre.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Seas he's a gamer gamer.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Okay, okay, But then Gabriel went in and did a
lot of good things. Threw a pick six. Did you
see the pick six? There were two receivers in the
same spot, and one of them pulled his hands back.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
He threw it, so huh he threw it.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Well, he threw it. Look, they were both about the same.
Neither one of them were great. They were okay. But
the reality is Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback. Joe
Flacco should be the starting quarterback, and Joe Flacco will
probably play as long as the Browns are in some
kind of hot pe should he?

Speaker 10 (53:46):
Pete called some guy an x who was who was
setting in the Dylan Gabriel pick six and going back
and forth about him. He called the guy an idiot,
a moron, and a chump in three consecutive tweets.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
He annoyed. He annoyed me, He annoyed me. Hey, by
the way, we're gonna put you know, I call him
the Boys of Summer. All these guys, these quarterbacks that
look great, but sets and Bennett is going to the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Did you know that?

Speaker 5 (54:15):
I mean he was fantastic. I mean they're playing against
guys who are going to be on the street next week.
You're playing against vanilla defense. Is it's hard. It's a
hard evaluation of the quarterback position based on what you
see in the preseason. But put your door in Stetson,
Bennett and they're Dylan Gabriel, all of them in the
Hall of Jackson Dark. Put them all in the Hall

(54:37):
of Fame because of what they've done in the preseason.
It's ridiculous. We just don't you think coaches watch they
have you know, when you're practicing through the entire offseason,
don't they have some kind of evaluation process going on
that the reason they go in the training camp that
Shador Sanders is fourth for a reason. And you could say, okay,
well he's fourth because he was he was a late
round draft pick. No, he's fourth because of the way

(54:59):
they've seen him in the offseason or their coaching staff
and Kevin Stepanski that dumb and I don't buy that.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Let me ask you this, Pete, going back to Trey Hendrickson,
you know their defense wasn't that great last year, even
though you're so productive. Do you think that's maybe one
of their I don't know points is like, hey, you know,
get traded, you know, don't show up. It's not like
we were world beaters with you, right?

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Well? Were they twenty fifth against the overall defense in
the yards and I think twenty something in points and
late and they couldn't stop the pass? So yeah, if
you're sitting down negotiating with him, Mark you sitting there saying, hey, Trey,
you had a great year, but our team stuck, our
defense stunk again. Though, Brady, there's a change in defensive coordinator,
which I think is a good.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Thing, right, But but you know al Golden scheme, it
really it's like a just an attack of like a
roll of decks of different blitzes, but almost to the
point where like you know, right.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
So does that help him or hurt him? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Does he get hurt them? It doesn't help them?

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah, So I think I think I'm with you, Brad.
I could see that viaders in a negotiating plot eploy.
But also he's also you know, not a kid anymore either,
which is why do you see it along list of
teams lining up the trade for him?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well, I think the hard thing is probably the trade compensation,
which I don't know what you think you'd go for.
The next thing is they know they guy signed into
a deal and it sounds like, I mean, everything's in place,
with the exception of guarantees, which I was trying to
explain to people, and this is something that like it
doesn't get talked about enough because now the contracts are
getting like out of hand, and the amount of guaranteed

(56:36):
money that are you know, for your top two percent
of players or whatever is per roster. We're talking hundreds
of millions of dollars and these owners, due to the
funding rule, they have to put an escrow. Like I
don't think people understand how big of a deal that
is for this league, keeping down not only players from
having fully guaranteed contracts, but also just in general of

(56:59):
you know, owners putting more guarantees in deals because of
the funding rule.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Well unless you unless you're an owner that can come off.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
The hip and just pay it, which Jimmy HASLM is
one which you know, people on social media push back
because we're comparing them to the Bengals. Even though you
won't say they're cheap, they're cheap. They don't they don't
throw them on money like has them does.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
But by the way that that I'm not saying, I'm
not saying, by the way, no, but.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Brady Jimmy has them thrown around money the way he
did really worked out well for him in the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Over the And that's that's what you'd say as a pushback, right,
is it hasn't worked and in the quarterback position, by
the way, they should just kept Baker. You know, whatever
happened with them happened, is what it is. But it's
worked out for Miles Garrett. Like if if we're really
going to compare like apples to apples, all right, they
paid their edge rusher apparently that you know, Hendrickson's you know,

(57:48):
not getting the deal he wants.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Correct, So what are you're trying to say that the
break you're trying to go into a Bengals are cheap mode.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, that's what exactly what it is.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Well, it's not that they're cheap, it's that they don't
structure the contract is different. So and they they did,
but here's the kicker to that. They've bucked that trend
with the other guys must.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Say that, Okay, they signed Burrow, it's a no brainer.
Every team can do that right, I mean, okay, tell
us something we don't know.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Tell us something we don't know then, because that, like
signing Burrow is the most no brainer drafting Burrows, Signing
Burrow is the most no brainer move the Bengals could
have made, Like I could, I could train a monkey
at the Columbus Zoo to go to be like, yeah,
let's go sign Burrow to the draft. I'm just saying,
like that is the most no brainer thing in the world.

(58:43):
Like it's it's figuring out how to be able to
get multiple star players under contract, and you've got to
be willing to spend the cash to do it. And
they're in a window now or they should be doing it.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Didn't They just get Higgins and Chase done.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Higgins deal isn't great. Let's be honest, Like the Chase
steals good, that's that's up there. But the Higgins deal
isn't great. You know that. Higgins?

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Okay, But Brady, if the Higgins deal isn't great, isn't
that a win for the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Sure, But Hendrickson's you got seventeen SaaS the last two years,
Like you don't think he deserves like a top contract
or one of them.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Well he should get yeah, he should get forty million dollars.
But if they should figure out, they'll figure out. Believe me,
they'll figure out a way to make it work. It
would be signed by training camp. We waste so much.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
We're in training camp or in preseason, I mean week.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
One, by the regular season. He will be playing in
Week one for the Bengals. And here's the other part
of it. He's under He's scheduled to make what sixteen
this year? Yeah, leaving that on the you're leaving that there.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I mean, that's pretty long departure from guys that he's
outproduced the last two years. And Pete, wait, okay, know
what I'm saying. I mean, Pete, Pete, hold on, you
are a quick bait master. Like people love hearing your
different takes, all those things. If you've found out you
were getting paid less than half of I don't know,

(01:00:05):
pick your CBS personality, all right, Musso or someone I
don't know. That's why I've been comparable, But like, pick
pick your personality and you found out you're getting paid
less than half of them, wouldn't that frustrate you?

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Absolutely? But if I'm under contract, is not a lot
you can do about it, is there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
So you just sucked it up, kick the can down
into the Okay, here you go nother day work.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Oh but here's the point Brady on Hendrickson, he if
is he gonna leave that money on the dead that's
the question you got to ask yourself. Well, he is
he willing to sit out the entire season?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Well knows the answer to that, because he's probably willing
to take I bet you know the guarantees are on sixty.
He wants him to be at eighty something whatever, and
that's where they're stuck on the two years, you know,
the next two years being guaranteed. That'd be mine he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yeah, he wants three years guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
No one's given him three years. The quarterbacks barely get
that sometimes right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Well, and so so if he doesn't get a new contract,
that's the question I asked for both him, mcclauran and Parsons.
Are they going to leave the money that's in their
contract for this year on the table?

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I say, Michael Parsons could potentially do it. Pete what
they What did he do?

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Then? What does he do? Levard leave it on the
table again? Next year and leave it on the table
again the next year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I don't. I think I think it's a it's a
forced trade. If he doesn't play, if he starts starts
to not play, I think it's a forced trade. Pete,
What do they always Pete? What do they always do?

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
They all show up and play, They all show up
and play, Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
I got one more question for you, not the hard pivot,
but you've made your rounds for for preseason and training camps,
and you've collected a lot of data and a lot
of information, and you're a big data information guy. What's
the team that most intrigues you with the information that

(01:01:59):
you have got thus far?

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Intrigues me? How?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I mean? You you can define it. You can define it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Okay, intrigues me that I think they're better than most
people have given them credit for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I'll give you one if you want to go down
that road, let's get it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I'll give you two, all right, Tampa Bay in Green Bay?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Okay, you you think Green Bay is going to sneak
up on people, Well, I would.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Say that sneaking up. They didn't say anything about sneaking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Just going to be better than what people even think
they're going.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
To be They're going to be better than what they were
a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
And then as far as Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I'm hearing a lot about Tampa Bay.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Tampa Bay is loaded, and I think Campa Bay is
you know, the one question is the new offensive coordinator
has never called plays that can be concerning. But you know,
talking to them, they have high respect for me. Is
a smart guy. I don't know Brady if you know him,
but he's supposedly a really smart guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I don't look good in preseasons so far, for whatever
that's worth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Yeah, yeah, and I like to make up of that team.
You know, your guy from Notre Dames hurt again that
that worries me because I thought he was gonna win
starting job, you know Mars and Benjamin Mars. Yeah, so yeah,
I think I think. I think Tampa Bay's loaded and
they got a good mix of young and old. And
by the way, Canty, he's going to have a monster

(01:03:19):
year for them on that defensive line this year. Just
keeping keep that in the back of your head. I
think this is the breakout, breakout season where he he's
one of those defensive linemen where you look at him
and you go, oh my gosh, he's special.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Can I ask this question, Jonah, real quick, p why
why we have you? Jonas? Who are the odds on
favorite to win the NFC South Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
That would be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Okay, right, but I'm so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
You're really you're really not going out on a limb here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Are you pushing for a super Bowl? I'm talking about
pushing for a super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
So super Bowl like headline is Pete Prisco says Tampa
Bay Bucks going to Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
No, that's not what I said. I said they're pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Well, then who are you pick it? You'd pick Green Bay?

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
Like I haven't mad a pick yet. I haven't picked
it yet. I haven't picked it yet. But let's put
its way, it's probably one of the Bays.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
So you're so, you're basically saying it from the NFC,
the champion will be Green Bay or Tampa Bay. That's
where these people who are listening right now put your
harder money on them. I already know he's making. So
it's Tampa Bay, Green Bay or versus the field. And
they should parlay that or they should forget a way
of constructing that bet.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
They shouldn't do anything because my picks are usually dog
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I think Pete, Pete's gonna go Green Bay Buffalo again
two years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
In a row.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
What what makes you think that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Because I because I think you've I think that you've
made that comment before that you really are strong on
Buffalo and you're strong on Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
I think you're going down that road again.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
You might you might be. You might be smart man Jonas.
By the way, here we get take a look at schedule.
It's it's it's such a joke. If they don't win
fourteen games, it will be amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Hey, Pete, there's a rumor circulating around about you. You want
to hear it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah, so we are going to catch up with Duke
Tobin's cabana boy, Pete Priscoti.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
He will probably be a good cabana boy. You got
the tan for it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Is this true?

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Is this true?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Is this true?

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Easy? Why do you think? By the way, no, but
why do you think that I take up for the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I mean they're like twenty first, twenty second and spending
in cash like you have. Nope, Nope, Bagels are doing
they're doing it. They're spending money.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
But you know what, you know what's amazing is hell
every other media, every other media member out there takes
up and look, I want the players to get everything
they possibly get their hands on, but sometimes you've got
to be a realist about it. And quick listening to
the damn agent and his babble speak, and I go
back to the James Cook thing. James Cook went in,
I'm getting fifteen. I'm getting fifteen. I'm getting fifteen a year.

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You were scheduled to make five, they were offering you twelve.
You're gonna sit there and hold out for the three
when you're scheduled to make five, and you get thirty
million guaranteed. Of course not. It was just babbling, babbling, babbling,
I'm getting fifteen, you're not getting fifty. And what did
he end up getting? He got twelve and he's happy
as hell about it. So and yet everybody sits there

(01:06:10):
and listens to the agent. Listen, they're not negotiating, they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
He's happy. He's happy because he's signed the highest guarantee
for a running back. That's why he's happy.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
I mean, that's what he's happy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Because he was happy because guarantees dude, no one, No
one gives a crap about average annual valid do you
know anything about contracts like that doesn't matter, that just matters,
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
But the agent, the agent is. The agent was out
over his skis and they ended up settling on what
they settled on. They offered him that, by the way,
and from what I understand, that was an offer that
was back in the table, back in uh, back in
the spring. He waited all that time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
To take you because in the end, in the NP,
they all show.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Up and play, and you know it, did you know it?
The agent? And by the way, if they don't show
up up and play, here's a moral of that story,
you're never get that money back. Ever, Well, that's that's
sixteen million. That's sixteen million. If Trey Hendrickson set out
the entire season, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Too old to sit out, He's going to have to play.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
He's going ever coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
But Carson's I think that that's a that's a potential possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
If that's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Being biased. No, no, I don't believe it's being biased.
I just think that he has age on his side.
He happens to be the one of the most pre
he's the most premiere youth pass rusher in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I'll put it this way. In Levar's defense, some will
trade for him. And that's that's what I to this
point about the age and what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
They would trade for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Dallas would give him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
And if the Cowboys don't, and if the Cowboys don't
trade him, what's he gonna do with LaVar?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
But he's going to show up, and he's going to
say it. He's going to sail a bar. He's going
to show up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
He's going to play because they all show up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
All I know is.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
We're going to get t shirts made. They all show up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Pete shows up every Tuesday. That's all I know. Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Before I let you go, we got about thirty seconds.
We're going to talk to Kenny Dillingham. Anything you want
to know from your son, devil head coach the up.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Love what he I love what he's doing. I want
him to pay him a little more and get to
just a little more to get over the top. But
we're close, We're close. I love what he's done so far,
I will say, and I wish I love the guy.
I love the way he coaches. But the end of
the BYU game almost made me want to throw something
at the TV. So you can bring that up if
you want. Okay, he almost cost him. He almost cost

(01:08:50):
him a chance at the playoffs by his boxing of
the end of the the BYU game. But other than that,
I like what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
That's fair, Pete. We love you man. We'll do it
again next week.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Alright, guys, take care the Great Pte Prisco at Prisco CBS.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
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