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August 29, 2025 55 mins

It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Jerry Jones displays gross mismanagement by trading Micah Parsons to the Packers! College Football is back full throttle but are upsets overblown early in the season? Plus, a look ahead to Texas @ Ohio State.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Boys good, Shocked, Surprised, I just I can't believe it, man,
when I saw that news last night about USF beating
the crap outs, Like, I mean, come on, man, what
do these rankings even meet anymore?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
LaVar so impressive, man, the very decisive. I'll tell you
they took it to him like that, like it was
like their preseason warm up game. You know.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Figure.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I heard someone say, we need to stop treating Boise
State like they're the blue blood of the group of
five and just giving them a ranking every year and
assuming they're gonna be good. I think I think people
tend to forget to in college football is a little
different when you have a star player like Ashton gent
who's the kind of a generational talent, especially the college
life friends. Dude, I mean, it makes the world of difference.
But I think everyone understands I'm not being serious. Obviously.

(01:05):
The the news of Micah Parsons was surprised to the
point where I almost had to make a wellness check
on lee Is Lee alive.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh yeah, alive. This is the best he's been ever
and some baby, what hey, Lee Lee?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Are you sober? Because I could understand if you were
celebrating last night.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Dude, I veered off the road when I saw the update.
I saw the update was like forty seven million or
like when I looked and glanced at my phone as
a driving.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
How do you supposed to help? How do you supposed
to hold a flask, your phone and the steering wheel
at the same time. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
So I veered into Prestiges. I was driving by it
because I saw, oh, packers, Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Today's going to be a good day.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
And he'd mean the weekend, the entire weekends, maybe a
good weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, very distracting day. Yeah, I'm doing very good.
We are, baby, we are.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Let's go, Yeah, I mean we are?

Speaker 5 (02:04):
What green baby?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just say like this?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
What's Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I loved it. I loved it. I love that it
happened because it I think it gave way to something
that I was in my mind. I was weighing it
out as it applied to what Mike a situation would be.
And I have a little bit of an interesting kind

(02:33):
of take on it, and you know, it'd be interesting
to hear what your guys kind of response to it is.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
But I think.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Jerry Jones gave us an indication of what the future
holds for the Dallas Cowboys. And I believe with a
move as big as this, and seeing that another team
was willing to give up what they gave up and
pay him what they're paying him, you're looking at two

(03:05):
franchises that are going in two different directions. And I
think by Jerry Jones allowing this trade to happen, he
has told his fan base, and he has told anybody
who's willing to pay attention that this is he's starting
a rebuild. There's a rebuilt, and what that rebuild consist of.

(03:28):
It could possibly now I don't know the whole contract
situation with Dak Prescott, but I would assume by now
he's getting to the end of his contract. I would
assume that this is a pivotal year for Dak Prescott.
What if this was a punt and while we're looking

(03:50):
at you know, other teams like the Saints that may
be tanking the year to try to go get you know,
Arch Manning in the draft what if it's what if
it's the Dallas Cowboys that are positioning themselves with draft
capital and the opportunity to actually be able to get

(04:13):
Arch Manning first in the draft. To me, I don't
think it sounds far fetched. I know he said that,
you know, we could use some of that draft capital
now to bring somebody else in. If you were going
to do that, you should have just paid Michael Parsons.
And so to me, I look at this and I

(04:33):
feel like this, this is an indication that this is
a soft punt they're punting on this season, and I
believe if anything they're preparing for, maybe they're probably a
quarterback and a couple pieces away from building a team

(04:55):
that can be a competitive team moving forward. And I
believe Jerry Jones looked at it, they measured it, and
they weighed it and said, do we give Michael Parsons
a long term contract knowing what the situation of this
team is, or do we take advantage of the fact
that we have a generational player that could could actually

(05:18):
give us the draft capital that we need to be
able to finish a rebuild or legitimately do a rebuild
of our franchise moving forward.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
That's my take.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
So you're giving up on Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I never I can't say I gave up on them Q,
because I just think that he showed us his ceiling.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Like.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I don't believe he will be any like, he will
not exceed what he has been, and I think this
Dallas Cowboys team has hit critical mass on what they're
going to be even if and I say this honestly,
even with Micaeh Parsons on the team, I do not

(05:59):
think this is a Super Bowl contending outfit. And I
do not think that Dak Prescott is the quarterback that
will take Dallas.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
To a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
And so to me, I'm hey, if he turns out
to be a world beater as a quarterback this year,
then maybe I still think that.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
I don't know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Know what that looks like, but you have a lot
of draft capital to possibly continue to build around him.
He's not crazy old, so maybe he can change their minds.
But today, I wouldn't sit there and say that I'm
sold on the fact that Dak Prescott is the quarterback
of the future for the Dallas Cowboys that can lead

(06:41):
them to Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't he just signed the deal last year though.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, so he actually is under contract. Technically, he's on
the books with voidable years I think to like twenty
thirty two or something. But they couldn't move on from
his contract realistically, I'd say until after twenty twenty seven
without really impacting their salary cap. I think that year

(07:06):
he's got about a fifty six million dollar dead cap hit.
So I mean, I guess you could do a post
June one designation, do that whole thing, But you were
looking at twenty twenty eight being the first year you
could really move on from dak If you cut them,
maybe there'd be someone who'd be willing to trade for him.
But if he's not good enough for you in Dallas,
you're probably not gonna be able to find a suitor

(07:29):
at least to take it on that contract. So you know, look,
I don't think that's what this is about. I think
this is the This is an example of an owner
who's so out of touch with reality and what it
takes I think to win a Super Bowl. I mean
somewhere along the way he lost it over the last

(07:51):
thirty years. Because with everything you just said, I'll gladly
take that into account. How does not extending the arguably
the best defensive player in the NFL who's young on
your roster, you know, for that shot to go get
whatever quarterback in the future. Because here's the problem with

(08:12):
even the draft capital they got. Green Bay is giving
up a twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven first round pick.
They're not gonna be in the top half the draft exactly,
so Dallas. And by the way, Dallas isn't a team
because Dak's not gonna just tank, like Dallas isn't a
team that's gonna be in the top ten. So package
it however you want. It's not enough draft capital to

(08:33):
move up.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
And to that.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Point, anyone who's sitting at number one, if they really
value that quarterback, they're not moving. They're not like, they're
not moving off the spot. If it's the Saints, if
it's pick your team, they're not moving off that spot.
So you could you could come up to them and say,
we have four first round Okay, well we don't care
because we're taking Arch Manning or we're taking name your

(08:57):
quarterback in college right now. That would be a first
round back. Drew aller Ka, Nick Lenora sellers like like
pick whoever you want Jeometier, like they're not giving up
the guy they value, the guy they view. I mean,
if anything, we've seen guys sign quarterbacks who've been veterans,
who've been consistent, hand the draft one in the first
round with that pick, like they're gonna double down on

(09:19):
the quarterback position. So this to me is shameful to
the Dallas Cowboys fans and to everything that the Dallas
Cowboys sell about this team being all in, because they're not.
And look, he's not wrong. Kenny Clark's a good defensive tackle.
He will help them improve them against the run. But

(09:41):
it's almost a shot at Micah Parsons, as if Micah
Parsons wasn't good against the run, Like he's not an
all around good player. So I just I don't see
how this helps Dallas at all. This makes Green Bay
a legitimate contender in my mind, not only this year,
but for the next five six years. I mean, they've

(10:01):
got a window, they've got a young roster, they've got
a lot of talent, and that's the team that now
I look at when you say Philly, now I'm almost saying,
like green Bay's right there. San Francisco's right there looking
at the roster. I mean, that's that's a problem now
for a lot of teams in the NFC. With the offense,
I think what they're capable of doing, but now having

(10:22):
Micah Parsons on defense too.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I've tried to find the well I can justify that
I can now, I really have tried really hard to
find the justification for them wanting to move on from
Micah Parsons and how that there is none. It's an
awful move like it just is. And if you wanted
to say we were having the discussion, I think it
was last year that the three guys in Dallas that

(10:45):
were coming up on deals that we're gonna need new
contracts were Micah Parsons, CD Lamb and Dak Prescott. One
hundred percent, like you can and this is not a
shot at I think Dak Prescott's a good quarterback. Not
a shot at him. You could probably find another quarterback
who can do what Dak does. Not a shot at
Cede Lamb. He's a very good wide receiver. He's had

(11:06):
had great years in the NFL. You can find another
CD Lamb. Michael Parsons through this portion of his career.
I mean, we're talking like historical numbers from a pass rusher,
and that's the one they chose to part ways with.
And to Brady's point, like, what are those first round
picks like they're talking about, Well, this is going to

(11:27):
help us in the future. Remember when Khalil Mack got traded,
Green Bay was the other team that was trying to
get Khalil Mack. John Gruden specifically chose to trade him
elsewhere to Chicago and not green Bay because he thought
the first round picks they were going to get from
Chicago were going to be worse than green Bay's. Jerry
Jones just made a bad team worse and a good

(11:50):
team better. I can't I can't find the win in
this for Dallas. This is if you're a Cowboys fan,
if you're like, it feels like we're entering into Al
Davis territory towards the end of his time with the Raiders.
It just feels like, hey, man, are we sure this

(12:10):
is the guy at this point that we won't call
him the shots for the team.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
This is an example, though, of an owner who also
plays general manager. You know, in his mind he can
say that he's working on whatever timeframe he wants, like,
this is building towards the future. Now, to the best
of my knowledge, I don't know if the figures for
the because he said, oh it helps their cap space,
our cap situation, all right. I don't know if these

(12:35):
figures are correct and it's posts now this trade or
if it's still taking that into account. But at least
what I'm seeing, they're second in the NFL in cap space.
So that's a blatant lie. Like information. You can look
up if you're a Cowboys fan and look Jerry in
the eyes and go, this has nothing to do with

(12:56):
cap space. You mean cap space for the future. Hey, Jerry,
you have got a bunch of cash. You're the most
valuable franchise in the world. Just give him a big
signing bonus, you know, it helps spread that out like
you did for dak over the course of the next
eight years. It's gross mismanagement of the roster and even

(13:19):
more so just the Dallas Cowboy fan base, like continuing
to perpetuate and lie this entire offseason, from the hiring
of Brian Schottenheimer and how that went about and now
getting to the point of the negotiations with Micah Parsons.
This might be the most damning thing, and that includes

(13:39):
the Jerry Jones bus. This might be the most damning
thing that has occurred with Jerry Jones and the Dallas
Cowboys ever. Ever, I don't even know what happened on
that bus. I just hear everyone talks about that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'll say this right now. It's worse than the Luca
trade in Dallas because at least you got an established
player in return, and Kenny Clark's a nice player, but
at least you got Anthony Davis. And there was some
feel like, I just don't get it, man, I'm sorry,
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
If you were to get rid of Patrick Mahomes in
a trade in the fourth what fifth year of his contract?
The last year of his rookie contract? Would people lose
their minds over it? What people melt down over the
Kansas City Chiefs trading Patrick Mahomes because of what he

(14:31):
was demanding contractually speaking.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, so much so that I don't even think people
could get their mind to grasp the concept of that
actually happening.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So here's the point I'm trying to drive home with that,
while he's not a quarterback, if you again if you
look at what he's accomplished in the names, and I
said this yesterday, I'm a double down on it. You
can only he mentioned Michael Parson's name in terms of

(15:04):
what he's been able to do. Body of work with
Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White. Now, some of y'all out
there may not remember Reggie White, which I don't know
why you wouldn't if you're a football fan. But if
you're a football fan and you know the game, to
be compared to Reggie White, Reggie Michael Parsons goes to

(15:28):
Green Bay as the only other person outside of Reggie
White to have what twelve sacks twelve plus sacks in
the first what two three years or whatever it is there,
whatever it is, right, You're We're not. This is not
a scenario where he is a normal, really good defensive player.

(15:52):
He is a premire generational talent that you can only
mention with a handful of names. And he's still in
his rookie contract. That's why I brought Patrick Mahomes up
as an example. If this was a quarterback that I
think the backlash in the outrage would be so it

(16:13):
would be so pronounced that it would there would be
a total meltdown in media today if that was a quarterback.
And that's the only difference here is that it's not
a quarterback. But outside of that, this is probably the
most egregious move that I've probably that I've witnessed in

(16:36):
watching professional sport. It might be the most egregious move
to let a generational talent that's on his rookie contract
go from your team.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Like that's that's pretty wild, especially.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
When you drafted. You know what I'm saying, Like this
whole debacle is like it's a guy you drafted, you selected,
he's been everything that you'd hoped he'd be in more,
and you can't get a deal done. I mean, which
mind you looking at the contract, it's not one of
those rego its, you know, blew it out of the park,
like the forty seven million average annual value like all that.
To me, it's it's all to the wayside. It's what's

(17:13):
guaranteed its signing. It's one hundred before guaranteed in signing.
That's significant. That's good. You're telling me Jerry Jones couldn't
do that, like you tell you're telling me that the
hang up supposedly was guarantees if I'm not mistaken, And
there was maybe an additional year that the Cowboys wanted,
which from the from the standpoint of when the contract ends,

(17:37):
which you'd be around the age of thirty. So I'm
sure as agent's telling him, Hey, you if you want
another bite at the apple, don't be thirty one. Look
at Trey Hendrickson B thirty B twenty nine, Like, be
in that range where you're twenty nine heading into your
last year. You can re up, or you're thirty, you
can you know, force potentially, you know, getting a free agency,
then you have a much better chance of teams still

(18:00):
paying you that huge next deal. So that's legitimate. But
again you're telling me that Jerry Jones, the Dallas Cowboys
couldn't figure it a way of structuring the contract h
M one hundred and twenty million, fully guaranteed it signing,
Like was it really just about the contract because it's

(18:20):
not the type of contract they couldn't absorb. So I
don't know, I've got more questions than anything else. And
I remember hearing stuff and I don't know, Jonas, if
you remember this too, someone had said, like this is
like a year ago that you know, maybe there's some
stuff behind the scenes the team's not overly thrilled about.
And you know, again, he's done everything on the field

(18:42):
you'd hoped he would do, so I'm not sure if
there's more of a backstory. They felt like maybe he
was a headache or bad for the team in a
way as far as how he's conducting himself, because none
of this makes sense. None of this makes me.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
But here's the thing. He's so good. How does that
even matter? If it ain't something so crazy? Like, how
does that matter? Some of the greatest football players have
been the most touched football players can't deal with them.
I mean, it is what it is, and I don't
And I'm not saying that to say I'm defending Micah
because I don't even think that that's the case. I

(19:17):
mean some guys have had you know, the guy came
out and said he needs to be paying attention to
football more than this podcast.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
I felt like that was a shade.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Grenade, like like, mow your lawn, make sure your lawn
is good, like you you have a podcast?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like I didn't realize he had a podcast, does he.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Well, he's like like he's like, yeah, they created a
whole network that he's like the president or something up.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
For for on Bleacher Report. Yeah, there's something to that effect,
but yeah, he does.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Me like there's never been a time where I feel
like he has been focused on football side of and
that's correct.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I don't think there's anything that can legitimize outside of
something that we know in the public, outside of something
we know in the public, like he didn't slap somebody
or you know, and even then, I don't know that
that's going to be enough, because that's how good he is.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
They traded he's that good of a talent.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
They traded for Charles Haley, who used to tug his
slug in meetings, And we're talking about Micah Parsons being
a pain in the ass on a podcast.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Behind Hire to two, they've hired.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
They've hired some guys that you would consider to be
maybe a little bit disruptive in.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
The locker room, like I just Jerry Jones as always.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
They hired Greg Hardy, like do we not rem like
forget forget about it, Like you can't use that as
an excuse.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
No, I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
And also like I think it was Breer who made
who made disappoint you know, talking about, you know, what
are the chances this doesn't get done. He's like, well,
you know, they've you know, there's been some things behind
the scenes, and he kind of, you know him, sort
of threw it out there. And even Jerry Jones yesterday
was talking about, yeah, you know, with this kind of contract,
we wanted to Mike get a you know, take on
more of a leadership role, like take on more leader.

(21:07):
It's like, I don't know, I mean, I I'd rather
see some I'd rather see somebody, you know, run up
sixty sacks and four seasons, you know, to show.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
That is leadership. Yeah, Like the way he plays this leadership,
it's like, does be clear?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
None of it makes sense? Literally, none of it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
So I gave my I feel like I gave what
could be the most substantial the moment you get rid
of that type of player that has to say to
me that sparks a rebuild, how do you like, there's
no other way unless you are out of touch with reality.
There's no other way to legitimize or to justify a

(21:46):
move like this. If you're not planning a rebuild, how
do you get rid of your your that's a pillar
that's a that's a foundational piece to building a If
winning a souper is what you want to do, that's
a foundational piece. How do you just remove pieces from

(22:06):
your foundation if you're planning on winning a Super Bowl,
unless you're planning on being able to replace it with
something that you feel is so significant that you would
actually take on the responsibility of doing.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
What they just did. I mean, you want to know
how it has to be a rebuild.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
You want to know how thrilled Mike is to be
in Green Bay. I mean, Lee, you know, get a
whiff of this. This is how happy he is. In
his statement, he said, quote, North Texas will continue to
be my home in the off season. I'll still be
here giving back to the community that gave me so much,
and no matter where the next chapter takes me, the
bond we've built will never break. It's good to see

(22:43):
he's going to spend his time in the off season
with his X. You know, it's good to see. So
that hope you're happy about that, Lee, that's what he thinks.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
On that way to do.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
He's meeting up with a guy by the name ofsard Rashan.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I don't want to say wrong Rashawn about the calling Rishard,
Rashawn Gary, and Michaeh. Parsons as as edges for your
defense is going to be pure entertainment. That is going
to be some of the funnest games to watch because

(23:20):
Rashawn Gary is one of the most amazing workaholics, study fobes,
like not study foe, but study holics of the craft.
Dud Dude's technique is amazing, his game is amazing. And
you ad Michael Parsons to the other side, that's going
to be a pretty fun group to watch. Up front

(23:43):
pass rushing man.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's going to be interesting too, is when they want
to go to like a speed rush package, You're gonna
have Rashawn Gary, Micah Parsons, Lucas van Ness, the kid
they took the first round a couple of years ago,
who's capable, and then Baron Sorel is a kid I
really like. Can I think they took in the fourth
round out of Texas. I mean they've got some some
guys they're gonna be able to rotate in there to

(24:06):
like create havocs. So yeah, I was gonna say, get
your get your popcorn right, quarterback.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
And people are people are pretty excited about their blitz
Blitz packages with the Quay Walker and Edrin Cooper.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Lee, pull your trousers up. Okay, like this has been
going on for way too long after this news, Lee.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I mean, doesn't everyone excited about their Blitz packages. Yeah,
Like what gets people excited is when they can win
against one on one battles. It's just like they're excited
about their big ole of a blitz too. By the way, Yeah,
they're gonna bring in Johnson and kway Walker and some
of these other guys are excited about their Blitz package.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Only are you getting a Michaeh Parson's number. Who's got
the number eleven now? Is Jayden Reed?

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Who?

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Of course I was bummed waking up to the news
that he is a Jones fracture that he decided not
to get surgery on and that he's playing through.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Hey, Mike had just had a Jones fracture too, That's good.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
That was very well, Jonas, that was very very well.
Who was the linebacker y'all had that had the dreads?
Is he still there?

Speaker 5 (25:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I forget he was a middle backer or something to
that effect. Super athletics and thumper maybe off It wasn't number.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I can't remember. I can't remember the dreads.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
He had long haird.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Who was who was the who? Like you're you're a
fan of Green Bay League? Who had no? No?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
That was a long flowing locks. That was the lock
era of white boys. It's not Clay No.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
We had the we had the line.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Back well Cooper that that had dreads. I don't know
who it was, but had I had one linebacker that
had dreads and he was a animal out there.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
You know what's interesting about your comment about the dreads.
On if I had said that, people be like, oh,
that guy's racist. He's just identifying him by dreads.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Oh that's not true, because you can see it coming
out of their helmet.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
That's that's how Yeah. But like exactly who it was,
you don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
You can't identify.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Identify racist.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I mean you immediately have me thinking of, you know,
the Mike Mackenzie l Harris days. But oh, I know
you're talking about well Jens Jalen Smith also from Former Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
He was there for a minute and he had long
I know, are you thinking of Devondra Campbell?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Maybe that's the name you're thinking of, Devondra Campbell.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Maybe that's the name that sounds about right. That's he's a.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Thumper, Yeah, Andre, he was a thumper.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, he was a thumper. He had dreads, but he
was a thumper, go to.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
That's exactly who I'm talking about. So he played for
the forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Now, okay, not sure that?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, Lee, can you uh, Lee, can you filter filter
your NFL search to PA players with dreads? Little filter
on your search?

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Player? Is that the dude that walked off the field
city wasn't playing any Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's prob was a great day a
couple of years ago. He's a free agent now, but
he was, Yeah, probably gonna be dreads you ideas, probably
gonna be a free agent for a while, yeahs based
on that move.

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Speaker 2 (28:46):
So kind of burying the lead. Yesterday was the start
of the long Labor day college football weekend. Hell yeah,
College football's back. Oh yeah, full throttle, full bottle. And
it started off with what some people might look at
as an upset. But can you really claim an upset

(29:08):
if a team's twenty fifth in Week one? Can you
really claim that as an upset based on what South
Florida did, because who the hell knows what?

Speaker 5 (29:16):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Florida State I think was a top ten team last
year and they got annihilated.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, there's there's like a number of teams Florida State,
Texas and m Those two are the biggest culprits as
far as being ranked in the top twenty five to
start a season then finishing much lower than the ranking.
But yeah, look, last night was awesome. A ton of
college football on a ton of a ton of cool storylines. Obviously,
Eddie George, head coach of Boy and Green State, that

(29:42):
he gets his first win. Pretty dominant performance there. Deshaun
Jackson at Delaware State did not get his first win,
but kind of kicking off here as a head coach, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
It will if they actually scored a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
That guy called back that you know was a pivotal
moment in the game.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
But oh no, I was gonna say, you go going
through the list. I mean, Nebraska obviously tight win over Cincinnati,
that was a cool atmosphere. I'm not sure either Cincinnati
or you know, Nebraska's going to play a big factor
into the Big twelve or Big Ten. Most likely more spoilers.
Maybe they could pull off some upsets. But there's probably
a lot of conversation you could have about Matt Rule.

(30:19):
Where's he at in his tenure, Dylan Ryola, you know,
what's what's he going to be or how is he
going to be viewed? And given all the hype about
him coming into that Nebraska program coming out of high school. Yeah,
but you go on down the line, I mean a
lot of good football last night. Wisconsin low scoring win,
their quarterback, their transfer quarterback, Billy Edwards, who came from Maryland.
He went down with a lower body injury. So right

(30:41):
away Wisconsin and Luke Coole already you know, hit with
some adversity. We'll see what that looks like moving forward.
But you know, just a great night of football altogether.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, you got by the way Armies playing later on.
Do you see Armies gonna start serving booze at their games?
They were the last academy but you know, have alcohol
and now they're going to get you know, get.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
A little back to your initial point though about the rankings.
It is interesting that you know, and the associated press
like they're trying to do their best, like the coachbol
everyone else, to try to get it right. But I
really don't believe there should be rankings until the College
Football Playoff Committee comes out because the ape pole doesn't matter.

(31:25):
It really doesn't matter. And I think one of the
things that it would allow and force the College Footballlayoff
Committee to do is actually watch the games, like instead
of looking at a metric and blindly saying, well, they've
got this money wins over ranked opponents. Okay, but those
are ranked opponents with a poll that you guys don't

(31:48):
believe it because you have your own poll. So why
are you giving that any weight? Why don't just go
watch the game? Did they look like they were dominant?
Did they look like they were a team that should
be playing for the national championship? I mean, it's part
of the gripe I think with you know, when we
have these committees, how we go about putting a bunch
of people in a room to then select which twelve

(32:08):
teams should play off for right now or sixteen one day.
It's much easier when you have the NFL format and
it's just you've got qualifiers and you know, those teams
that play, they they win, they get in. It's more
subjective in college football, and part of the problem is
it's really really hard if you are not ranked, to
change the perception of everyone else out there, including the

(32:32):
College Football Playoff Committee. If you are ranked and go
through the years and look at all the teams that
have been maybe they're you know, the bottom of the
top twenty five or unranked coming into it, it literally
takes you nine weeks until the College FOOTBA Playoff Committee
or any other ranking that you let's use the eight people.
Since they go from wire to wire, it takes them

(32:55):
about nine weeks ten weeks before they start to actually
believe in those teams to get up to that point.
And it's it's a problem because there's not enough you know, inclusion.
I think in looking at some of these teams that
you know, maybe they view them as the fortieth best team,
Well they did in weeks one, you know, two and three,
but all of a sudden at the end of the season,
maybe the one of that's best top ten teams.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's almost as if it does more bad than good,
you know, for teams that are lower on the rankings.
And you know what I hate about it too, is
I agree with you, we don't know whether these teams
are good or not. But I'm still a sucker for it.
Like I will, I will side towards If two games
are on, I'm more likely to watch or at least
check out first the one that's got the little number

(33:39):
next to the teams.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
That's the point, and I can't stand that.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I fall for it every year, and I do Like
Texas Ohio State's a whole nother animal, like that's that's historic.
We've never seen anything like or not seen a lot
of it like it to open up a season. But
I'm telling you this weekend, I'm gonna fall victim to it.
I'm gonna watch a game or prefer to watch a
game first that's got a little number next two. So
it's still worse it sh.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
It just gives you the feeling that it's a more
marquee matchup. But again, and it's always interesting because it
makes the loss or the win bigger. Like I like
Boise going down yesterday, it like made it bigger, Like, oh.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
How should I feel about UCF? WHOA, how should I
feel about Boise? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
But if they didn't have those rankings on their USF,
whata you you?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
One of them? Yeah, it's one of them. Florida too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I just think that it makes the it makes the
losses and the wins bigger because in the end, if
we're really thinking about it, most teams aren't playing games
like Ohio State and Texas are going to do this weekend,
or Notre Damon and Miami. You're not You're not seeing
those types of match up history on And what's that?

Speaker 5 (34:56):
What say that again?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Penn State?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Get here? You couldn't catch that that little little.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
There's a little static on the line, couldn't hear with
your little technical difficulties there. But my point that I
was making is you're not going to play against teams
where you can determine where they should be ranked anyway
on in early in the year, right, And so if
you were to happen to be a team that's a
really really high ranked team or team people are high on,

(35:28):
and you end up losing to like a No. Name
school early on in the year. You know, it's kind
of like how do you how do you judge them?
I mean, we had that happen last year and they
ended up playing for a national title, you know what
I mean. So it's just kind of like, how does that?
You know, how are we supposed to go about looking

(35:49):
at how you rank them? And when do you start?
Do you start once they get into conference play or
you know, how how do you do it? Because I
don't think that you can get an accurate read out
one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
What about in the year, what about after four weeks?
Like if the AP wants to step in after four weeks,
after the first month of the season.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Four weeks would represent you playing your first conference game, right,
because you have like two or three that are non conference,
right two or three?

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Is it three?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
But three? Well, it depends on the conference. The SEC
this year.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Will play four four.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
However, they're going to be changing get to nine conference
games next year. So yeah, but that's technically, you know,
not true though. Some teams play conference games week one
or weeks zero.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Week one. We did it last year.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
We went week zero, Kansas State, IWA, STAG just did it.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
So yep. Yeah, So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I don't I don't really know how you come up
with how to start ranking them when you start ranking them,
because I don't know that you're going to get an
accurate readout on what type of teams these teams are.
A team could come out and blow a team out
by sixty points, and you know, once they get in
the conference play, they can't win a game. But does

(37:05):
that mean that they should get ranked high? Because leading
up to playing their conference, you know, opponents, they've they've
dominated everybody leading up to those games. So it's like,
how do you do we wait till mid season? Maybe
it's mid season, midway through you know the conference like
amount of games, maybe it's like eight games, you know,

(37:28):
I don't know, maybe it's seven games, And then you
start looking at it from the standpoint of.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
What's their body of work?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Because I think it's it's just going to be too
difficult to try to come up with that type of
determination with some of the teams that like great, you
know Eddie George one, you know what I mean, But
look at the team you played against, you know what
I mean? Like, I can't I could say I'm happy
that you got a dub, But I also could say
that that's a manufacturer dub.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
So it's kind of and and that's a lot of
that's a lot of teams.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
That's a lot of teams are going to play manufactured
dub dub games. So I think it makes it difficult
to really accurately know what type of team that you're
seeing until they play big games. And for what it's worth,
if they play a big game, I don't know how
good they are because it's early in the year to
that point.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
And the other thing is teams grow, they change, you
know that they evolve, especially if we're talking about like
Ohio State and Texas for example. I think we do
all agree this will be what arch Manning's third start
in his career, it will join Sands First, do we
all agree that they'll be better by the end of
the season than they are right now? Yeah? So, and
the way that goes for every player who's inexperienced. But

(38:44):
that's the hard part is, you know, so much weight
can go into these rankings, good and bad, and meanwhile
they could be completely meaningless. So I would almost say
on the side of just not doing them at all,
or doing them from week zero on and having the
one that matters the most, the College Football Playoff Committee

(39:06):
construct whatever ranking that is. But we know too, it's
a way of selling it for TV. Like when it
comes down to it, you know, this isn't the NFL.
This is college football, and these brands, even though they're
regional and they're becoming more national and the players and
coaches are becoming more nationally recognized, we're not quite there yet.
So I think in order to sell a lot of
these games, a lot of these brands, you still have

(39:28):
to have the ranking next to it because to your
point Lefar like it feels bigger or Jonas for that matter,
like like when we talk about I mean, shoot, I'll
be honest, Like calling a game, you know, when you're
in the booth calling a game and you have two
teams that are top twenty five ranked, it feels like
a big game. Like I remember going down to TCU.

(39:49):
It was the only game that weekend that was two
top twenty five teams scoring off. It was TCU, I
want to say maybe versus West Virginia and gamed it
was there for it, and I remember thinking to myself, like,
this is a big deal. You know, this is a
big game, and I was excited about the opportunity of
everything else that they weren't two of the biggest brands.
It's one of the reasons why when I was on

(40:10):
the number two crew, like I got the opportunity to
do it, but like it was exciting for me just
from the broadcast side. And that's really what you're selling is,
you know, the big twelve race and two top twenty
five teams, who are the best teams you know to
have a shot at, you know, have a shot at
when it's all said and done. So like I get
it from that aspect of it, but it just it
feels unfair to a lot of those teams that you know,

(40:33):
could be just sitting outside the top twenty five and
unfortunately there's nothing they can do to get within the
top you know, sixteen teams or so forth, you know,
to get into the playoff. Because if you go back
and look at last year, for example, it's not everyone
always thinks all the top twelve teams get in. That's
not how it works. Like, that's not how the rankings work.
It's there's different you know, metrics in there to keep

(40:55):
some teams out. So Clemson, for example, was not a
top twelve team. I think there were sixteen. I'm making
it the College Football Playoff, So like, the rankings almost
complicate things, if anything.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, because once you have a full body of work,
you have a better understanding. Remember USC beat ls U
last year in Vegas and it was like, oh man,
they're better.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Ye Like, oh, USCS they're very good. The Miller slashes
of Matt Lioner, you know, riding a Trojan horse or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Everybody, everybody was ball washing Miller Moss. They're better without
Caleb Williams. They're a better team without him. And then
he didn't even finish the year as a starter. Like
it's like, but you hear the fan base and everybody
going crazy, which, by the way, is Brian Kelly gonna
win an opener at the l s U at some point?
Or is that gonna Are we going to continue on
this path? Because what is the oh for three and

(41:47):
openers at l s U that got Clemson this upcoming weekend?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
So get the hands full this weekend.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
So, by the way, I was on with George Reister
yesterday we were filling in from I.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Saw that, Yeah, someone someone reminded me that on Twitter,
you're out promoting that yet and that Danny Canell We
had Danny Canell on.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And how that go.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Just just so you know, just pounded the pavement for
the acc Well, he was not trying to give any
credits to anyone else.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
He was also uh relishing the fact that he had
the under in the Kansas State Iowa Iowa State game
last week, and I pointed out to him, I said,
you know, Brady Quinn had the over, so he was
on the opposite side of.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
That bad beat.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
And he's like, I love that. I love hearing that.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
So you know why he loves that because he got
his ass beat every time we did college football picks
and you can you can cut this off. Sent it
out to him.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
He knows it. It was.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It was.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
It got sad to a one point like he'd be
like itching to try to come back and find a way,
but both him and Prisco took it. I mean absolutely
just took him to the woodshed.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Oh by the way, Prisco, we got to hold his
balls to the fire. He was wasn't he saying earlier
this week that he guaranteed uh like he was calling
a shot that the jar two Parsons to show up
and signed before the end of the week. So so
Prisco's got to be held accountable.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
He was on the wrong side of that bet.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know he'll get defensive. You know,
he's gonna be like a hyena back into a corner.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I mean, give me a break.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
What type of break do you need?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Well, no, that was that's Prisco. That's one of his
go to.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
That was hyena laugh, a hyena laugh.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
The hyaenas are our matriarchal. They're not patriarchal. They're they're
they're packs are led by by female Did you know
that they have mock you know things because they're they're
the dominant ones. Yeah, they they have what they were

(43:55):
throwing on to the w n b A courts, really
they need they're not kneon, but they are camouflage to
the hyena.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I mean, if it doesn't I mean, if it doesn't work,
what's the point.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
It's a mock all right, Like I don't I don't know.
But that's just a little bit of interesting trivia for you.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Fun fact.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Yeah, and they're bigger than the males. Females are bigger
than the males.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
There you go, I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Ask Rock. I think Rock can tell you to confirm it.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
This is the least interesting thing I've heard.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
I'm very you're not interested in the fact that hyenas.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Are an animal that I'm never going to come in
contact with the rest of my life. Yes, I am
not interested. I am all in on football. That's all
I care about right now. Anybody football guy? Hashtag film
breaking down Dylan Ryle's footwork and everything right now.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
You know, if you break down how animals hunt, you
could see how some people try.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
To tackle when's uh Dylon technically you could use that
as you know, film study as well.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
You know, I haven't seen a good tackle on the
Safari in a long time.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
So dang, when's Dylan for? What is Dylan Royola going
to give up the Patrick Mahomes? Look, when's that gonna go?

Speaker 5 (45:19):
That's never going to happen.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Wow, I was having a conversation with someone last night.
You know, at what point do Nebraska fans like, like,
where are they at with him? I mean, look again,
he plays a freshman. It's always tough. I went through that.
He's a highly touted guy, so it's gonna take some time.
But even that program, you know, someone had asked, like,
hey if they because that game was that getting got tight?

(45:41):
And I said, like, what happens if they dropped this game?
Like it's not like it's a very favorable schedule for
them in the Big Ten. And on top of it,
you know, where's where are they at with that rule?
Were they at with Dylan Royola? I mean, and that's
a program that I think, Guys, I'm just outwardly say it.
Nebraska fans can get upset, but they have unrealistic expectations,
I think, and look at it. I look, I know,

(46:02):
you go into every season everyone thinks gonna win a
national championship, but they're not that close. Like they don't
have enough weapons on the outside for him to throw
to to consistently compete with the Ohio States, the Penn States,
the Organs, uh, the even Michigan for that matter. Like
there's there's a lot of you know, development and growth
and roster building they still.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Have to do.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Bo Polini, winning nine games a year wasn't good enough,
and ever since then, they've not They've not been the
same team.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Polini. It's the truth, though, I get it, but you know.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Give that Beau Polini account they had, by the way,
was pre electric.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Was there a fau Polini account?

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Really, I didn't know that he was great, by the way,
I was.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
You got to give him a chance.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I didn't. I didn't realize PJ. Fleck's been at Minnesota
for eight years now. Yeah, he's been there a long
ass time. I think he just got an extension.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
They were talking about it last night, and I mean,
he's undefeated in bowl games. Like it feels like that's
a program that has realistic expectations. Nebraska probably doesn't because
they're still going back to the past, but it feels
like Minnesota understands, Hey, we've got some level consistency here.
Let's not screw it up with this guy.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
I hate Minnesota really ruin my last year, school just ruined.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
They'll do They'll sneak up on you, won't they.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Day'll sneak up on you. Man, damn Gopher is a
fan of Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
I was worried about that a little bit last night.
Kind of kind of depressed me a little bit. Still
have a hard time living that one down. Hell Mary
on fourth down and like forever catches the ball, they
get down they kick a field goal. Nay, they beat
us in the Happy Valley, taking away our opportunity to

(47:52):
play for a national type. We slid anyway, We lost
the next two games as well.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
So damn.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
It's not a very very happy moment that I had
when I hear Minnesota and think about them being spoilers.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Or it could be good.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
It's just a bad By the way, I Google searched Minnesota,
hail Mary Penn State. The first result that comes to
watch it. Well, no, it's the first result that comes
up with LeVar Arrington recalls nineteen ninety nine Minnesota upset
of Penn State.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
So you.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
For a little while there.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
You gotta turn the page, buddy, results not gonna change,
Trust me. I keep I keep watching the Bush push
like that. They're not gonna throw a flag like that's
that's how it ends. Yeah, this is my nightmare.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Still hurts.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
You gotta turn the page. Gonna move on, you know
it hurts. Still got down with it.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
You know what I recommend you do. Try to think
try fencing.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
That's right, pool that pushing pool leg.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I mean, if you ever wanted to try an Olympic sport,
try that fencing. It's fast, it's safe, it's easy to start.
Find it inner class near you at USA Fencing dot org,
slash try Fencing. That's USA Fencing dot org slash try Fencing.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
That's pretty dope. That's really a read. I'm all in.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I think it's a way of life personally, but you know, it.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Takes a whole lot of skill to be able to fence.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Man, you look like a fencer, Jonas, Yeah no, not you,
Martis look like a fencer. Yeah, no more you Jonas.
Or you got that bad knee. You can't be quick
on that back knee.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
You know, you know that thing might buckle and collapse.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
Could you imagine you go to jab and you're just.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
And it's just added are Yeah, you gotta drained? You're
good then I did.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I've been walking very nicely lately. I've been moving very good.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eas Darren three am Pacific.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
We've got the big game in Columbus. This has got
to be on par I would imagine Brady one of
the biggest game you guys have called or been on
been on location for.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, a high State Michigan
games are always really big just because the rivalry how
heated it is. I can't recall if we've had a
matchup though, of a one versus three. Those Ohio State
Michigan games, Ohio State Penn State games had to have
been up there, but I'm not I'm not sure it's
been quite this big in that regard. So it's I mean,

(50:35):
it definitely. You can definitely feel the vibes in Columbus.
There's a lot of people who are kind of a
little bit uncertain, I think because there's so much change.
You know, you have new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator,
you know, a bunch of new guys who maybe played
at times or started at times, but are now prompted
to that starting role. So it's it's gonna be interesting.

(50:58):
And I think the tough thing is I had some
and say this the other day, they go, I wish
this wasn't a Week one, Like I wish this matchup
was like week two or week three. And I do
think there's there's some validity to that. In a matchup
like this, which is what everyone wants in college football.
You just don't want them to be sloppy. You don't
want them to be like pre snap penalties and ball

(51:19):
security issues and blown to assignments. You maybe want to
get a game or two under your belt to knock
off a little bit of that. I don't know if
you'll call it rust or nerves, but just to allow
both teams to be closer to playing at their best.
And I think it's really really hard to do that
week one to start a season.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean, were they Texas Ohio State? Was it one
versus two? And six? I think I think that was
the last I think it was one versus two.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It would have been an five, right, yeah, because that
was the year Texas beat Ohio State and then Texas
went on to beat do you see for the national Championship.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm showing Ohio Steve No, that's that.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Well, I don't think they were both ranked that high.
But to your point, that was a very huge game,
monumental game I believe in Columbus to if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, it's a I can't wait to watch man like
you can. Like there's something about big environments like that
to where even the NFL, like the NFL will have
big games and big matchups, even the Super Bowl, you
don't really get a sense of how big it is
because it's so corporate. There's so many different things going on,

(52:39):
there's so many different elements. College football's got a way
to present itself on television to where if you're watching
or you're streaming it or whatever you're looking at to
try and take in the game. You the way it's
laid out and presented, you can feel it's a big deal.
Like you can You're gonna be able to feel tomorrow
this is massive, like this, this is a historic matchup

(53:01):
with all the other elements combined, the Mannings, the National Championship,
the Portnoy, the big Doom kickoff, Corso's Final, Like you're
gonna be able to feel that present itself in a
way that we haven't seen before and we don't get
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
And look, kudos to College Game Day, I mean and
Lee Corso, who's a part of it, but they made
it that way where you're on site, you're you're there,
you're in the action, you can feel it and the
excitement are surrounding it, and that's part of I think
what makes you know, college so much fun a little

(53:35):
bit in comparison to the NFL shows, where it's more
of that sterile studio environment. You know, you can't you
really sense the excitement quite as much. You know, you
get like a parking lot shot of people tail game
for the NFL games, but it's entirely different with college football.
You're you're there in the action. So it's I think
that's part of it in regards to how you present it.

(53:56):
But I do want to say this about Lee Corso,
you know, he felt like to a lot of people
like I didn't. I didn't grow up remember me like
my my grandfather's because they passed away when I was young.
But he's kind of been that figure, like that grandfather
type figure I think, for a lot of people for
a long time, and he's one of the special people

(54:18):
that just makes the game fun, makes the conversation about
the game fun. And it's gonna be sad. It's gonna
be sad to see him not be a part of
it anymore, you know. I kind of not that Dick
Vitel's done, but like it's same thing for like college basketball,
right like I'll always remember like the Dick Vitel calls,
and you know, the different way he would say things

(54:39):
similar to Lee Corso and looking forward to which team
he was gonna pick to don the head gear to
make his selection, or some of the funny things he
would find a way of getting in their show. It's
it's sad, but you know, I obviously want to thank
him for everything he's done all those years to highlight
the game of college football.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, and you guys are going to be everybody's going
to be there together. Are you going to get a
chance to talk with him tomorrow at all.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Or I don't know. I mean, obviously if I have
the opportunity to go over and make sure to say hello,
But usually everyone's so busy trying to just make sure
we get in front of the camera on time, you know,
moving from outside to inside, or you know, different set
to set, so we're at a completely different location for
where they're at. But I'm sure hopefully we'll have the

(55:26):
opportunity to say low. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
So it's been a hell of a run for him,
and now we get ready and get set for the
big game coming up tomorrow Texas Ohio State from the Shoe,
Big Newton kickoff on Fox. We'll be watching
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